Will Draft Night 2011 Be Different?
Your bracket is broken. Whose isn't? (We stopped picking a few years ago after the boss' secretary won based on which team colors she liked!) Of course, at the same time we're all making mental notes about which players might look good in a Nets uniform come June 27. Kenneth Faried of Newark and Morehead State? Kyle Singler of Duke?
No matter what, expect things to be different this Draft Night, the first with Billy King in charge...and the first where Mikhail Prokhorov's cash hoard might make a difference. We take a look at what might be different, combining some old reporting with some new analysis.
Finding Late Value
Even the best GM makes mistakes in the draft, of course. Joe Dumars took Darko Milicic and Sam Presti traded Roddy Beaubois for Byron Mullens. Billy King made a few too, but a review of King's time in Philly indicates he did well when picking in the lottery, found solid NBA players at the end of the first round and discovered value deep into the second. He also signed at least one undrafted player, Raja Bell, who became a top-notch defender.
His best skill is finding value late and with the Nets having a late first rounder and an early second rounder, that's a good thing. As one of his former players in Philly, Eric Snow, told Al Iannazzone last summer, "He’s got a great feel for the unseen."
So, let us review…it's an incomplete but telling list:
—1999: drafted Todd MacCulloch with the 47th pick.
—2000: drafted Speedy Claxton with the 20th pick.
—2001: drafted Samuel Dalembert with the 26th pick.
—2002: traded guard Speedy Claxton to the Spurs for Mark Bryant and the draft rights to John Salmons, taken with the 26th pick.
—2003: bought the Nets' second round pick, the 51st pick, and used it on Kyle Korver. Cost: $140,000; Traded the draft rights to guard Paccelis Morlende to the Sonics for the draft rights to Willie Green, taken at #41.
—2004: drafted Andre Iguodala with the 9th pick.
—2005: drafted Louis Williams with the 45th pick.
—2006: drafted guard Thabo Sefolosha (13th pick), then traded his draft rights to the Bulls for the draft rights to guard Rodney Carney.
—2007: drafted Thaddeus Young (12th overall pick), Daequan Cook (21st overall pick), then traded the draft rights to Cook, a 2009 second-round pick and cash to the Miami Heat for the draft rights to Jason Smith, taken with the 20th pick.
A GM who can find any value after #40 (MacColluch, Green, Korver and Williams...Korver and Greene in the same draft); get solid NBA talents late in the first round (Claxton, Dalembert, Salmons); and use lottery picks to get players like Iguodala and Young deserves respect.
To suggest that Iguodala and Young were no-brainers ignores what other teams around his pick wound up with. Iguodala was taken between Rafael Araujo and Luke Jackson; Young was taken between Acie Law and Julian Wright. Same with his second round gem, Louis Williams. Williams was taken after Roko-Leni Uric, Chris Taft, Mile Ilic and Martynas Andriuskevicius. Of all those players only Julian Wright and Law are currently under contract in the NBA.
In getting value at the places where the Nets are picking, few have a better record...and that includes the guy who hired him. Rod Thorn after all drafted in succession, between 2003 and 2007: Zoran Planinic, Tamar Slay, Christian Drejer, Antoine Wright, Mile Ilic, Marcus Williams, Josh Boone, Hassan Adams and Sean Williams. He followed a solid 2008 draft by taking Terrence Williams.
Trader Billy
As the above listing notes, and as Iannazzone wrote last week, King is a tinkerer. He absolutely loves to deal on Draft Night. As a Sixers' executive, King made 14 draft-day trades from 1998-2007 that involved picks. On three Draft Nights, he made three deals...in 2002, 2006 and 2007.
In addition to the trades listed above, that got the Sixers Korver and Green for pennies on the dollar, here's what he did in Phily on Draft Night:
--Draft 1998: Traded a future first-round draft to the Jazz for the draft rights to center Nazr Mohammed...looking for a backup to Dikembe Mutombo.
--Draft 1999: Traded a future first-round pick to the Hawks for the draft rights to forward Jumaine Jones.
--Draft 2001: Traded an undisclosed amount of cash to the Clippers for a 2001 second-round pick.
--Draft 2002: Traded the draft rights to guard Jiri Welsch to the Warriors for a future first-round draft pick and a future first- or second-round draft pick; traded guard Speedy Claxton to the Spurs for forward Mark Bryant and the draft rights to guard John Salmons and forward Randy Holcomb; traded second-round picks in 2004 and 2006 for the draft rights to forward-center Efthimios Rentzias.
--Draft 2006: Traded the draft rights to guard Thabo Sefolosha to the Bulls for the draft rights to guard Rodney Carney; traded a future second-round pick and cash to the Timberwolves for the draft rights to forward Bobby Jones; traded cash to the Raptors for the draft rights to forward Edin Bavcic.
--Draft 2007: Traded the draft rights to guard Daequan Cook, a 2009 second-round pick and cash to the Heat for the draft rights to forward Jason Smith; traded the draft rights to guard Petteri Koponen to the Trail Blazers for the draft rights to forward Derrick Byars and cash; traded the draft rights to center Kyrylo Fesenko to the Jazz for the draft rights to forward Herbert Hill and future draft considerations.
Some are good, some are bad, some are meaningless. Dumping Jiri Welsch for two picks...very good; trading Thabo Sefolosha for Rodney Carney...not so good; trading draft rights to Kyrylo Fesenko for Herbert Hill...not so good but not disastrous.
Money Talks:
The Nets have yet to buy a pick in the Prokhorov Era, but with two first round picks last June, one #3, there wasn't a big need. But after the Nets dealt their first round pick to the Jazz in the Deron Williams trade, there were reports that the Nets would be willing to buy a pick. That's always been a possibility.
Over the last several years, before and after Prokhorov bought the team, the Nets have said (but only after the draft) they were willing to buy picks. They tried to get a pick high in the 2005 second round to take Monta Ellis. They claimed in 2008 that they had been willing to buy a pick late in the first round to grab Chris Douglas-Roberts but decided to wait, hoping he'd be available at #40 and he was. Same year, Lawrence Frank suggested they were thinking of buying a pick to take Jaycee Carroll, but didn't, signing him instead as a free agent. And last year, there were reports that they liked Ben Uzoh and Brian Zoubek well enough to buy late second round picks, but again waited and then used a lesser amount to provide them with partial guarantees.
Now, they have an opportunity to use some of Prokhorov's cash hoard to move up or add picks. There are precedents. Look at what Sam Presti and the Thunder did last year. They started Draft Night with the 18th, 21st, 26th and 52nd picks and wound up the evening with the 11th, 31st and 48th picks, through a deft series of moves that involved cash, future picks and an expiring contract. (The problem is that the product of all that maneuvering was Cole Aldrich, Tibor Pleiss and Latavious Williams...one on the bench, one in Europe and one in Tulsa.)
The Nets start off the 2011 Draft with the 26th (Lakers) and 36th (their own). If they wanted to go higher, they could buy another pick in the 20's and package that pick, the Lakers' first rounder; their own second rounder and some more cash to go higher.
In fact, cash deals have become more common on Draft Night with things likely to get even crazier this June because of the impending lockout.
The Blazers, owned by billionaire Paul Allen, have bought first round picks on five occasions in the past seven drafts, once from the Nets. In at least four of those deals, the price tag was that $3 million max.
--On Draft Night 2004, the Blazers sent $3 million and the expiring contract of Eddie Gill to the Nets and got a Nets’ first round pick (#23 – Viktor Khryapa of Russia). The Nets then cut Gill.
–On Draft Night 2006, the Blazers sent $3 million to the Suns and got a Suns’ first round pick (#27 – Sergio Rodriguez of Spain)
–On Draft Night, 2007, the Blazers sent $3 million to the Suns and got a Suns’ first round pick. (#24 – Rudy Fernandez of Spain).
--On Draft Night 2007, the Blazers sent an undetermined amount of cash and the rights to second round pick, Derrick Byars to the 76ers and got a 76ers first round pick (#30 pick Petteri Koponen of Finland). Byars was later cut by the 76ers.
–On Draft Night, 2008, the Blazers sent $3 million in cash to the Hornets and got a Hornets’ first round pick (#27 – Darrell Arthur of Kansas). Arthur was immediately sent to the Rockets, with a smaller amount of cash, in return for draft rights to Nicolas Batum of France, taken at #25.
So at least $12 million--and probably closer to $15 million--of Allen's cash hoard was used to pick up Rudy Fernandez, Nicolas Batum, Sergio Rodriguez (since traded) and a very good European point guard, Petteri Koponen, still stashed overseas. Khryapa was later used as filler in the Tyrus Thomas - LaMarcus Aldridge trade.
Allen isn’t the only billionaire owner who feels this way about the value of cash on Draft Night. Here’s what Mark Cuban wrote back in 2008 defending his decision to trade two first round picks to the Nets in the Jason Kidd trade: "There are almost always teams willing to sell a pick in the 20s for 3mm dollars." Translation: I got the money. Don't worry.
Also, don't forget this: With the Nets controlling basketball operations at Springfield next season, buying a second rounder (or two) makes more sense. The Nets can work with that second rounder in Springfield rather than have him sit on the bench in Newark.
Guarantees?
Draft Day guarantees are a tricky business. Essentially, they work like this: a GM is impressed by a player and tell the player and his agent that if the player is sitting there when the team picks at a certain position, the team will select the player. The player in return shuts down, stops working out, sometimes feigning an injury. The upside is that the player and agent know where they are going and the GM has a guy he likes. The downside is that it severely limits the GM's flexibility if someone very good unexpectedly falls and he has to watch as a team picking after him catches him. Thorn stopped giving out guarantees after promising one to Planinic and then regretting it. Will King guarantee?
Bottom Line
It's always possible the Nets will be conservative and pick at #26 and #36. With King's record and Prokhorov's cash, that's not a likely scenario, particularly if some franchises are going to be looking to stockpile cash rather than picks...three days before a lockout.
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Hope it's JaJauhn Johnson
Kid will be a great fit for the Nets.
by Zartan on Mar 20, 2011 6:54 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
I like him too
or Leonard from SDSU
by lemmetakeutodamovies on Mar 20, 2011 7:06 PM EDT up reply actions
sound what some people are calling right
"NETS GET DERON WILLIAMS!" Thats a sick joke, wait has nets daily been hacked. Is this real???- First reaction to Deron Williams trade.
'sounds and wright
"NETS GET DERON WILLIAMS!" Thats a sick joke, wait has nets daily been hacked. Is this real???- First reaction to Deron Williams trade.
whose* isn't in the first line
excited for what King can come up with in this draft
Nice read.
So “buying a pick” doesn’t mean cash for a pick straight-up, correct?
Small edit:
but with two first round picks last June
three first-round picks*
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Yankees-Nets-Broncos
One thing to watch is the rapidly plummeting draft stock of Terrence Jones.
He was a favorite of many on here early in the year. Recently though, RealGM has mocked him at 18, NBADraft at 11. I don’t think that’s completely out of the realm of how much the Nets could move around and he’d be a great addition IMO.
"I don’t think we want to be like the Knicks. I think we’d more like to resemble the Lakers." - Mikhail Prokhorov
Brooklyn's Population: 2,567,098 - It would only take about .701% of Brooklyn's Population to fill the Barclays Center.
The Nets need a wing. Get on it King.
there are more solid wings in free agency
nets need a more pure PF than jones. faried seems to be the first choice. also trey thompkins from georgia may slide to us.as long as duke and purdue keep winning all those players stock is going to rise like smith, singler, and johnson
i’m interested though if instead of trading up since the lakers pick is so low why not take kieth benson with the lakers pick and then chandler parsons, david lighty, or lacedarius dunn with the second round pick?
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by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Mar 20, 2011 7:27 PM EDT up reply actions
I like Parsons Benson and Lighty so I wouldn't be opposed to that.
I was looking at Jones as a SF though.
"I don’t think we want to be like the Knicks. I think we’d more like to resemble the Lakers." - Mikhail Prokhorov
Brooklyn's Population: 2,567,098 - It would only take about .701% of Brooklyn's Population to fill the Barclays Center.
The Nets need a wing. Get on it King.
Justin Harper
I was watching him against Farried and even as a stretch 4 he bodied Farried quite a few times 6’10 225. Nice game with range out to NBA 3 point range.
RE-SIGN THE HUMP!!!
The JETS/NETS are coming!
by MrBDown on Mar 20, 2011 8:12 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
You have a good eye for talent
IMO.
by Zartan on Mar 20, 2011 11:14 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
he's alright
had a great game yesterday going 7-7 from 3pt, but keep in mind he’s a 5th year senior. not much upside, but certainly ready to contribute immediately.
I think teams will rethink that once workouts begin.
I don’t think there are 17 players better than him in the draft. If he is there at 18, King needs to figure out a way to trade up.
since we are talking bout the suns selling picks
they also sold rajon rondo’s rights to the celtics
but anyway. can we hope for a different offseason in 2011 in general? I am so happy there is no once in a lifetime superstar available on the market becuase this team passed up so many good deals last offseason holding out for two max players. As soon as hump picked up his option they should gave up on plan A. an got beasley, d. wright, gay, matthews, scola or boozer
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by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Mar 20, 2011 7:20 PM EDT reply actions
Well, Gay was a RFA. They were denied by Scola and Boozer. The others though were realistic and probably should have been attempted.
"I don’t think we want to be like the Knicks. I think we’d more like to resemble the Lakers." - Mikhail Prokhorov
Brooklyn's Population: 2,567,098 - It would only take about .701% of Brooklyn's Population to fill the Barclays Center.
The Nets need a wing. Get on it King.
they tried for Wright when he was with the Heat
but never heard of them going after him in free agency.
to get Hump, they had to take on Shawne Williams. The Nets had hoped to get Hump straight up for Najera, but the Mavs wanted a two tier deal: Najera for Hump and Williams for the Nets TE (from the VC deal). The Nets had wanted to use the TE to trade for Wright, but didnt have the assets after having to deal the TE to Dallas.
As for Beasley, the Heat wanted to deal him to the Nets for Dooling who had the $500,000 buyout. Nets didnt want to take on his $5 million contract. Cant really blame them since Beasley was a mess.
yes beasley was a mess but being in a vivid city like miami was a detriment
also him and wade never meshed. they wanted beasley to be a 4 too much.
but now that i have you attention who do you like in free agency. not asking for a detailed exposition just some names you wouldnt mind seeing the nets spend some dough on?
i’m pretty sure you have seen some of the names floating on here by some posters where our roster would look like:
PG: D-will/farmar/gaines
SG: VC/Morrow/Redd
SF: T-Mac/James/Outlaw
PF: Hump/AK-47/Wright
C: Lopez/Rookie
and then farmar gets trade for oj mayo
what do you feel about that NI?
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by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Mar 20, 2011 7:51 PM EDT up reply actions
At least we'd get a lottery pick to console us when D-Will leaves that roster...
"I don’t think we want to be like the Knicks. I think we’d more like to resemble the Lakers." - Mikhail Prokhorov
Brooklyn's Population: 2,567,098 - It would only take about .701% of Brooklyn's Population to fill the Barclays Center.
The Nets need a wing. Get on it King.
i dunno
VC/T-Mac/AK are all on the downside of there careers
by lemmetakeutodamovies on Mar 20, 2011 7:55 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah but there are some posters, names withheld
who would prefer this over something like
PG: D-will/gaines/uzoh
SG: Thornton/Morrow/Rookie
SF: Chandler/James/Outlaw
PF: Randolph/Hump/Rookie
C: Lopez/Rookie
The realist keepin it real amongst the surrealists
R.I.P. Big Homey Nate Dogg: "Cuz Iiiiiiiiii have ne-evv-ver met a giiiiiiiiiirrrrrrllllllllllllllllllll tha-at I loved in the whole wide wooorrrlllllddddddd"
by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Mar 20, 2011 8:01 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah he's a 2nd round restricted free agent
he doesnt get a qaulifying offer but sacramento would have a chance to match an offer sheet, just like wes matthews last year
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by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Mar 20, 2011 8:18 PM EDT up reply actions
so NI. thornton is a player
you wouldnt mind making 6 mil a year on new jersey next year? remember how good him and collison looked in new orleans when chris paul tore his knee and ankle up? they were like the second coming of gilbert arenas and larry hughes (in washington not golden state)
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by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Mar 20, 2011 9:08 PM EDT up reply actions
Weren’t the Nets interested in him at the deadline? Would be a better option than getting Mayo imo
by JerseysFinest. on Mar 20, 2011 9:28 PM EDT up reply actions
i believe but the roster structures and thorntons 700k salary made it hard to create a fair trade
favors was only going in a bigger deal, humphries became a rock in our rotation, james would get next to no PT in NO with all the wings they have,
I doubt they would have taken petro or farmar because of contract length
only thing that made sense would be sasha for thornton and another bad contract but when you try and make salaries match it gets messy quick
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by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Mar 20, 2011 10:14 PM EDT up reply actions
VC-NO
Redd-NO
T-Mac – yes for vet min
AK47 – Yes but as SF
Hump – Whatever the cost
Thorton – hell yes
Chandler – NO Bidding war all but gaurantees a bad contract
ZBO – NO Elton Brand part 2. BK already made this mistake once
Stuckey – Yes
JRich – Yes
JR Smith – Yes
Krstic – Yes
KMart – Yes but this is a homer pick
Dalembert – yes
D Jordan – yes
N Young – NO
Barbosa – yes
Big Baby – NO
West – Not at the expense of Hump
Afflalo – Yes but as a plan B
Crawford – Yes
And to kill the suspense I know Im one of the posters your talking about
by DWILL-of-the-GODZ on Mar 20, 2011 11:28 PM EDT up reply actions
JR can be an All-Star if he gets his act together.
Barbosa for what he would cost would be a better value. Young is 6’7" and less then 2.8 rebounds
by DWILL-of-the-GODZ on Mar 20, 2011 11:40 PM EDT up reply actions
IF I could have it my way
Lopez / Krstic / Petro
Hump / Faried / Outlaw
JRich / T-Mac / James
JR Smith / Morrow
DWill / Farmar / Gaines
If we could find a taker for Petro, Farmar or Outlaw then dump them. IDK if we could actually get this lineup under the cap but its my wishlist
by DWILL-of-the-GODZ on Mar 20, 2011 11:53 PM EDT up reply actions
I like Farmar but he is expendable
DWill is getting the lionshare of the minutes at PG and I think Farmar is a little bit of overkill. Gaines looks more then adequate as a 15-20 min backup and T-Mac has point foward skillset in a pinch
by DWILL-of-the-GODZ on Mar 21, 2011 12:23 AM EDT up reply actions
J Rich isnt getting anywhere close to 14. He will prob get 5-6 Mil
I dont think JR is going back to Denver. They are going to resign Chandler and Nene. Then they have to chose between Afflalo and JR and they seem to favor Afflalo. A change of scenery might do him good. Karl is a good coach but can rub players the wrong way tho so can Avery. He is from Freehold so why not. He has the most talent out of all the SG FA’s. It’s easier to teach someone how to be a man then it is to teach someone how to score.
by DWILL-of-the-GODZ on Mar 21, 2011 12:18 AM EDT up reply actions
The FA market doesnt have any superstar but has alot of 15-16 ppg wings(SG/SF) on the market
Supply and demand rules state that when their is more supply then demand that the buyer has the advantage
Look at who is availible at SG/SF
Chandler, AK47, Butler, JR, JRich, Stuckey, Prince, Thornton, J Green, Crawford, VC, N Young, Redd, Dunleavy, Afflalo
Thats roughly 25% of the starting wings availible in FA. Add to that the amount of teams in financial peril and I dont see alot of these guys getting huge contracts. Teams will always overpay for size but not for wings.
Cap hold for Hump is 6.4 I think. We have 17 mil free
17 – 6.4 = 11.6 mil to spend
split that between JR and JRich then max Hump out
by DWILL-of-the-GODZ on Mar 21, 2011 9:58 AM EDT up reply actions
I like AK but not thrilled with him
He is going to eat alot of our cap space. I think its a foregone conclussion that Proky wants him here
by DWILL-of-the-GODZ on Mar 21, 2011 10:09 AM EDT up reply actions
did u read what i posted on statistics of small forward options
hello, avery is our coach not george karl, avery let twill go , he isnt going to look like a hypocrite and bring in a headcase
JR produces as a headcase. JR>>>>>>>>>>>>>TWill
TWill was a knucklehead and couldnt crack the lineup of a 12 win team
by DWILL-of-the-GODZ on Mar 21, 2011 9:37 AM EDT up reply actions
lol
TWill made that team avoid making history. You can’t thank him we didn’t become the team with the worst record in history.
Smith has offensive talent but is a chucker and a team cancer.
SG is the diva position in the NBA like WR is in the NFL
Most of the top wings were labeled the same way
by DWILL-of-the-GODZ on Mar 21, 2011 10:08 AM EDT up reply actions
Would take JR any day
regardless if he’s a “headcase”. The guy has a passion for winning. Unlike TWill, JR has proven himself to be a valuable talent in the NBA. TWill was a primadona expecting star treatment, when he’s still scratching at scrub status. JR can create his own shot, drive to the basket, and when he’s on, can shoot lights out. Also, he plays pretty good defense. Next to DWill, he could flourish.
by domininaldo1981 on Mar 21, 2011 11:26 AM EDT up reply actions
If you think about it honestly DWill is a coach killer.
and Avery loves him. Management will always overlook things for the top producers
by DWILL-of-the-GODZ on Mar 21, 2011 10:01 AM EDT up reply actions
ZBO/Chandler/Thornton and Hump
Salary cap would only allow maybe 2 and Hump
by DWILL-of-the-GODZ on Mar 21, 2011 9:35 AM EDT up reply actions
NI, I know you have said that the Nets like Faried. Do you have any info on they other players with which they are enamored?
"I don’t think we want to be like the Knicks. I think we’d more like to resemble the Lakers." - Mikhail Prokhorov
Brooklyn's Population: 2,567,098 - It would only take about .701% of Brooklyn's Population to fill the Barclays Center.
The Nets need a wing. Get on it King.
Singler would be a good pick up
battle tested, 4 year guy who can come on and contribute. He’s not a tweener. For 10-15mins per game off the bench, he can be a good rotation player.
by domininaldo1981 on Mar 21, 2011 11:28 AM EDT up reply actions
the point of this article
is that the likelihood is that the 26/36 pick combo is just one of a number of possibilities.
King is aggressive on draft night and Prokhorov has the money.
King is aggressive on draft night and Prokhorov has the money.
Brains and Muscle. Lets get it.
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by MrDollarBills on Mar 20, 2011 8:22 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
this
"You can spend minutes, hours, days weeks or even months overanalyzing a situation; trying to put the pieces together, justifying what would’ve, could’ve happened – or you can just leave the pieces on the floor and move the **** on."
-Tupac Amaru Shakur
by NetsMets4Life on Mar 20, 2011 8:37 PM EDT up reply actions
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"I don’t think we want to be like the Knicks. I think we’d more like to resemble the Lakers." - Mikhail Prokhorov
Brooklyn's Population: 2,567,098 - It would only take about .701% of Brooklyn's Population to fill the Barclays Center.
The Nets need a wing. Get on it King.
No thanks.
Singler can shoot, but will he be able to get off that shot in NBa. He’s not athletic, doesn’t have great size for a player with no handle, and won’t be a good defender. People who are liking Singler are probably the same people who thought Zoubek would make it in the Pros.
I would much prefer Justin Smith over Singler
More Athletic ands longer/taller. Should be there. Henie also a senior and now Richmond is in the sweet 16 so a big game or two and he will NBA on lots of radars.
RE-SIGN THE HUMP!!!
The JETS/NETS are coming!
by MrBDown on Mar 21, 2011 2:46 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
and now he can screw the 76ers
good riddance. Now we have someone with a proven track record on draft night that knows what the hell he’s doing. I expect nothing short of value come draft night.
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by MrDollarBills on Mar 20, 2011 8:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Thorn wanted Brackins or Bledsoe
then after going to Philly, he traded Jason Smith to the Hornets for Brackins who has done next to nothing.
and people
cried bloody murder the day that Billy King was hired.
As Net fans we should be grateful that:
1)Rod Thorn “retired”
2)Billy King was hired
3)Carmelo Anthony wanted nothing to do with us
These events have worked in our favor so far.
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by MrDollarBills on Mar 20, 2011 9:37 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
yes this franchise has had a terrible draft history the past decade
besides kenyon martin who was the obvious pick in a historically weak draft before lopez when our picks started making sense the picks the nets have made are not even nba relevant anymore or had an impact save for krstic before his acl injury and jefferson who they traded for on draft night
you want a horror story just look at some of the names we picked:
soumalia samake before michael redd and eddie house
tamar slay with scola going TWO picks later
planinic before outlaw, barbosa, perkins, delfino, josh howard, and then traded korver for cash
sold khyrapa’s pick with delonte west, kevin martin, vujacic, udrih, and varjeo still available
antoine wright before granger, garcia, warrick, nate rob, j, jack, d. lee, bass, cj miles, ilyasova, ellis
illic before blatche, lou williams, gomes, amir johnson, gortat
marcus williams before shannon brown, jordan farmar, kyle lowry, sergio rodriguez
headcase sean williams before bellinelli, dudley, w. chandler, rudy f., a. brooks, afflalo, splitter, landry, big baby, mcroberts
traded 2nd round pick in 07 draft(stephane lasme) before marc gasol and ramon sessions
and besides lopez we have gotten almost no return for anderson, cd-r, and t-will. Lopez, James, D-will, and vujacic is all we have to show from all those years
The realist keepin it real amongst the surrealists
R.I.P. Big Homey Nate Dogg: "Cuz Iiiiiiiiii have ne-evv-ver met a giiiiiiiiiirrrrrrllllllllllllllllllll tha-at I loved in the whole wide wooorrrlllllddddddd"
by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Mar 20, 2011 9:05 PM EDT up reply actions
Rod Thorn was overpaid
and overrated
Official Member of the "Travis OutLOL Society". 5 years, 35 Million Dollars worth of lulz.
by MrDollarBills on Mar 20, 2011 9:39 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
and selecting Terrence Williams
over Tyler Hansbrough looks like a massive mistake as well.
Official Member of the "Travis OutLOL Society". 5 years, 35 Million Dollars worth of lulz.
by MrDollarBills on Mar 20, 2011 9:40 PM EDT up reply actions
You can also credit him for choosing the incredible Antoine Wright over Danny Granger, Hakim Warrick, David Lee, and Monta Ellis.
by JerseysFinest. on Mar 20, 2011 9:47 PM EDT up reply actions
Dont forget the bad signings and trades
Childs, McGinnis, Everyone from last years team, Old Mutumbo, Magloire, etc….. I just threw up in my mouth
by DWILL-of-the-GODZ on Mar 20, 2011 11:32 PM EDT up reply actions
rod thorn made his money in trades and getting a finals team for us twice with his trades
marbury for kidd
eddie griffin for rj and collins
macculloch free agency
mutumbo free agency
aaron williams free agency
I liked Anderson
"NETS GET DERON WILLIAMS!" Thats a sick joke, wait has nets daily been hacked. Is this real???- First reaction to Deron Williams trade.
OUCH! I'm glad Thorn is gone
RE-SIGN THE HUMP!!!
The JETS/NETS are coming!
by MrBDown on Mar 21, 2011 2:49 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Jordan Hamilton definatly should be our pick!!!
Never give up on something, you can't go on a day without thinking bout it....
by Kingsley King Lin on Mar 20, 2011 8:48 PM EDT reply actions
By way of ESPN's Chad Ford, here is Mark Heisler's mock NBA draft
J-Kidd to D-Will
I just looked at the mock draft and, I hope, it further proved my point on why we should pick Faried.
the mock draft had him going at #29 and as of now we have the #27 pick. It also referred to Faried as " Freak athlete… 6’8" Dwight Howard".
Nets should pick KENNETH FAREID!
He’s from Newark, great defender, rebounder, shot-blocker, and DUNKER! He and Hump could man our PF spot for years to come and we could focus all of our resources, trade and FA $$, on other needs.
See where he lands.
"You can spend minutes, hours, days weeks or even months overanalyzing a situation; trying to put the pieces together, justifying what would’ve, could’ve happened – or you can just leave the pieces on the floor and move the **** on."
-Tupac Amaru Shakur
by NetsMets4Life on Mar 20, 2011 9:24 PM EDT up reply actions
jordan hamilton!
Never give up on something, you can't go on a day without thinking bout it....
by Kingsley King Lin on Mar 20, 2011 9:00 PM EDT reply actions
Justin Harper impressed me
in the 2 times i have watched him play. He has freakish athletic ability that 6’10" and shoots at like 45% from the arc.
Indeed and he is still getting second round consideration
Probaably because he plays at R
RE-SIGN THE HUMP!!!
The JETS/NETS are coming!
by MrBDown on Mar 21, 2011 3:19 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Indeed and he is still getting second round consideration
Probaably because he plays at RIchmond and is a senior. But he has a very nice package more so than Singler who to me is just name.
RE-SIGN THE HUMP!!!
The JETS/NETS are coming!
by MrBDown on Mar 21, 2011 3:20 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
mock drafts dont matter
until after the lottery. this isn’t a draft with any “can’t miss” guys and a lot of teams are going to be drafting on need, even more than usual.
As of now, I believe the 17th overall pick.
"You can spend minutes, hours, days weeks or even months overanalyzing a situation; trying to put the pieces together, justifying what would’ve, could’ve happened – or you can just leave the pieces on the floor and move the **** on."
-Tupac Amaru Shakur
by NetsMets4Life on Mar 20, 2011 9:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh alright, DE has them picking Fredette with that pick, wasn’t sure if it was actually theirs or if it belonged to Houston.
by JerseysFinest. on Mar 20, 2011 9:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Man I hope we could get Faried
just from watching some of that first round game, the guy is a beast with a passion for the game.
i wish we could get jimmer
although he looks unnecessary now and out of our reach.
MARKIEFF MORRIS
He’s the closest to a stretch 4 in the draft…

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