Navigation: Jump to content areas:


Pro Quality. Fan Perspective.
Login-facebook
Around SBN: UFC 146 Predictions

Game 67 - Nets vs. Bucks - Friday, March 18, 8:30

The Nets next face the Bucks, one of the four teams in front of them in their elusive playoff hunt. The two are separated by three and a half games, three in the loss column.  At the beginning of the season, the Bucks were seen as a playoff team, even a team that could advance. Now, after another run of injuries and some underwhelming play, their only hope for redemption is a late playoff push. Problem is that they have lost three straight, six of their last ten and looked miserable offensively.

Milwaukee, however, has won seven consecutive games against New Jersey and is seeking to sweep the season series for the second year in a row. The Bucks won, 115-92, in Newark on Jan. 8 and posted a 91-81 victory on Jan. 29 at the Bradley Center. Drew Gooden (left foot plantar fasciitis) and Ersan Ilyasova (concussion) are out. Chris Douglas-Roberts (right ankle) is day-to-day. Of course, they still have Brandon Jennings and Andrew Bogut.

For the Nets, the game can be a statement, showing that after a reverse they can rebound.  Same goes for Deron Williams who had his worst game as a Net vs. the Bulls, obviously still bothered by his sore right wrist.

Comment 318 comments  |  0 recs  | 

Do you like this story?

Comments

Display:

We believe.

Section 4 Row 7 @ Prudential

by swampass on Mar 18, 2011 1:12 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

it smells like outlaw

Knicks 2, Nets 0. There's not much Prokhorov can do about it now. Maybe put up another billboard ~Mitch Lawrence

Yeah, about that... Don't ever doubt The Prokhorov.

by New Deal on Mar 18, 2011 1:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

outlaw

been playing decent lateky

by Fr@nkl1n on Mar 18, 2011 5:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

coud've used

his points last night

If I can just hide, the sinner inside, and keep him denied.
How sweet life would be, if I could be free, from the sinner in me.

by BrooNets on Mar 18, 2011 10:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

He is??????

He is scoring 8.6 PPG in March (6 games), on .386 shooting in 26 minutes per game. That’s TERRIBLE. Not “decent”

The only thing you can say for Outlaw is that he is playing somewhat better than his absolutely horrific February, when he scored 7.3 PPG (11 games), on .348 shooting in 24 minutes per game.

by A.S. on Mar 18, 2011 12:50 PM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

but the alternative

is playing Brandan Wright and his career .547 shooting %. Clearly that is just not acceptable to our braintrust.

by calling all toasters on Mar 18, 2011 1:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

That should be "braintrust"

because we all know that Avery is determined for some reason to keep playing players who have repeatedly shown they don’t deserve playing time.

I have no idea how they can possibly try to justify only playing Wright 7 minutes so far.

by A.S. on Mar 18, 2011 1:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

but if bogut is. we wont

if you thought noah and asik punked lopez. bogut will ike and lopez will be tina tonight

The realist keepin it real amongst the surrealists

R.I.P. Big Homey Nate Dogg: "Cuz Iiiiiiiiii have ne-evv-ver met a giiiiiiiiiirrrrrrllllllllllllllllllll tha-at I loved in the whole wide wooorrrlllllddddddd"

by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Mar 18, 2011 12:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

This is the test.

It would have been great to beat the Bulls, but the real test is whether this team can bounce back after a tough loss and beat a team they are supposed to beat.

by NetsROC on Mar 18, 2011 2:07 AM EDT reply actions  

they were running

incredibly hard against the Bulls. I hope they have enough left.

"A little boy went out to play. When he opened his door, he saw the world. As he passed through the doorway, he caused a reflection. Evil was born. Evil was born, and followed the boy."

by jrtallent on Mar 18, 2011 10:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

Gotta win this game

The Bucks are not a good team. Last year they had a spark to them, this year their lifeless and have no identity. Jennings hasn’t improved, Bogut’s regressed due to injuries, and they’ve been riddled with injuries and selfish players. Playoffs aren’t realistic but we need to separate ourselves from these type of teams.

Gotta admit, I’m kinda worried about our offense going into this. Bucks play the same type of scrappy defense/slow pace that the Bulls play. We might get lulled into playing that sort of ugly game.

by mikegrand15 on Mar 18, 2011 4:25 AM EDT reply actions  

Must Win Game.

Yeah, I said it. I was at the game yesterday. It wasn’t for lack of effort that we lost to Chicago. Our D was solid. Unfortunately we couldn’t hit the side of a barn with our shots if our lives depended on it. Usually if you hold a team to 80 something points your going to win the game. Tonight’s game vs Milwaukee will give us an idea of how far we’ve improved, especially with it being a road game where the Nets have a record that rivals my high school freshman team. Yeah, we were bad. Our point guards could barely get the ball past half court without turning it over smh.

by Brendan Byrne on Mar 18, 2011 6:38 AM EDT via mobile reply actions  

OMg sounds exactly like my team lol

Official Member of the "Travis OutLOL Society". 5 years, 35 Million Dollars worth of lulz.
8>3 & 8>1
Dwill Era: 5-3
Believe 2011 Playoffs!!!

by David28 on Mar 18, 2011 3:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Notables from last night's game vs. Chi

1. I HATE FRONTRUNNERS. People give it up MJ is long gone. DRose is a great player no doubt, but where were you a few years back. I didn’t see people reppin Hinrich and Chris Duhon jerseys.

2. Kyle Korver. The new Danny Ferry?

3. Big Fat Kid in the pink shirt was in the building. Cameras during timeouts kept panning to him. Crowd was fired up everytime he was on the screen. Are the Nets paying him now?

by Brendan Byrne on Mar 18, 2011 6:50 AM EDT via mobile reply actions  

How is it frontrunning?

That’s like yelling at all thousands of Nets fans that are now coming to the game because we got Deron Williams.

Rose is an MVP player. That makes Bulls fans (who normally would’ve stayed home at their apartment in NYC than see Hinrich & Duhon) come out and pay money to watch a star.

Star driven league in every way imaginable.

Section 18, Row 7 at The Rock!
"Your 2010-2011 New Jersey Nets - It Is What It Is"

by eLonepb on Mar 18, 2011 9:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

I admire the Bulls

It took them awhile to rebuild but they did it and have constructed a solid team around their young superstar PG

We have two of the top 3 players at their respective positions. There’s no need to be jealous. I’m eager to get this roster properly assembled so that we can clash with them on their level.

It was good experience to lose to them, and the fact that we fought hard against them speaks volumes. They play excellent defense. What they showed me defensively is championship caliber intensity on the end where it counts the most. This is why I don’t really care for signing guys like David West.

Instead of worrying about the Knicks, who are a joke, and the Heat, who god knows if they’ll be able to last 3 years without killing one another, lets look at the Bulls, who IMO will be the team to beat over the next few years because of how elite Rose is, how well built their roster is(Noah/Boozer/Deng is a solid frontline), and how well coached they are.

Official Member of the "Travis OutLOL Society". 5 years, 35 Million Dollars worth of lulz.

by MrDollarBills on Mar 18, 2011 9:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

What the Bulls and Thunder have in common is

They were able to take advantage of big time pieces like Rose and Noah or Durant and Westbrook being on rookie contracts to be able to fit more expensive pieces around them while they’re still cheap. Too bad for us we’re getting towards the end of Brook’s rookie contract

by muwu on Mar 18, 2011 9:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

this is the hand that we have been dealt

Billy King will have to make it work. That’s all that you can really say about it

If the previous GM didn’t waste draft picks, maybe we’d be a bit better off.

Official Member of the "Travis OutLOL Society". 5 years, 35 Million Dollars worth of lulz.

by MrDollarBills on Mar 18, 2011 9:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

what are they supposed to do?

oh man our team is so stacked with chris duhon, kirk hinrich, andres nocioni, ben wallace, drew gooden, and ben gordon?

or actually think tim floyd got a raw deal and tyson chandler, elton brand, jamal crawford, eddy curry, and ron artest werent good back then?

The realist keepin it real amongst the surrealists

R.I.P. Big Homey Nate Dogg: "Cuz Iiiiiiiiii have ne-evv-ver met a giiiiiiiiiirrrrrrllllllllllllllllllll tha-at I loved in the whole wide wooorrrlllllddddddd"

by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Mar 18, 2011 12:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

no becuase they trade brand for chandler in tim floyds last year

and they had artest, curry, chandler, crawford, and brad miller along with jalen rose, greg athony, ron mercer, travis best, our 12-70 own trenton hassel and the worst draft pick this decade marcus fizer and only won 21 games and rose was just in the finals with the pacers in 99. greg anthony spent several years on the 90’s knicks teams and the rest of those young guys i would say panned out pretty good save for a fight in auburn hills and a heart arrythimia

The realist keepin it real amongst the surrealists

R.I.P. Big Homey Nate Dogg: "Cuz Iiiiiiiiii have ne-evv-ver met a giiiiiiiiiirrrrrrllllllllllllllllllll tha-at I loved in the whole wide wooorrrlllllddddddd"

by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Mar 18, 2011 1:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Elusive is a charitable way to describe the Nets playoff run..

http://www.sportsclubstats.com/NBA/Eastern/Atlantic/Nets.html

Basically its hopeless unless we run off a 14-2 record from here in..

by NJNETS29 on Mar 18, 2011 7:37 AM EDT reply actions  

The playoff dream was nothing more

than a dream to begin with. With Indy taking 2 in a row over the Knicks and us basically having to play perfect basketball with a roster that just isn’t that good, it’s not really anything to be concerned about

A strong, over. 500 finish is what the Nets must accomplish.

Official Member of the "Travis OutLOL Society". 5 years, 35 Million Dollars worth of lulz.

by MrDollarBills on Mar 18, 2011 8:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

Agreed, forget the playoffs

We have to play to win every game, not a series of games. Each game is its own. If the teams ahead of us suffer epic failures and we get in, fine.

But we don’t deserve it the way we’ve played all year long. Lopez was a cream puff for most of the year, and whether Deron had helped or not, that’s all on Lopez for being so soft.

Section 18, Row 7 at The Rock!
"Your 2010-2011 New Jersey Nets - It Is What It Is"

by eLonepb on Mar 18, 2011 9:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

It's not all on Lopez

but I agree, he was soft.

Lets win games. That is what matters.

We owe Milwaukee a beating. That is what will satisfy me. A win, and lets move on from there.

Official Member of the "Travis OutLOL Society". 5 years, 35 Million Dollars worth of lulz.

by MrDollarBills on Mar 18, 2011 9:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

Must win….Bucks own us. But, it won’t be easy on the road.

@Al_Iannazzone: BREAKING NEWS: Nets are close to acquiring Deron WIlliams from Utah, sources told The Record.
-Feburary 23, 10:54 am.

by Andy. on Mar 18, 2011 8:11 AM EDT reply actions  

they need these next 4 games if they really want to be talked about. deron had an off game last night, and you know what hes a superstar but you cant be lethal everynight. lets go nets

by brooklynbridges on Mar 18, 2011 8:52 AM EDT reply actions  

So this "NetsDaily" section at the Rock is beginning to show some promise

There’s a great chance, I’m told, of April 5 against Minnesota being the game for a test run. Good choice considering the opponent (Minnesota) and that it’s a Tuesday night.

The question is, if they give me a bunch of tickets to distribute, how do I select the right people? Have to be loud and animated most of the game! That’s a tough thing to find in Nets fans lol…

Section 18, Row 7 at The Rock!
"Your 2010-2011 New Jersey Nets - It Is What It Is"

by eLonepb on Mar 18, 2011 8:59 AM EDT reply actions  

good luck with that eLone…hope it works out.

@Al_Iannazzone: BREAKING NEWS: Nets are close to acquiring Deron WIlliams from Utah, sources told The Record.
-Feburary 23, 10:54 am.

by Andy. on Mar 18, 2011 9:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

Do you know what section they would be?

I go to most of the games anyway maybe I can buysome in the same section.

by nwkiddnj on Mar 18, 2011 9:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

I know they are looking at lower level

Ideally corner, and starting with the last row and going downwards from there (to prevent the group from standing up in front of people with seats already).

You wouldn’t need to buy, the test run would likely be free. But it’s still in the early stages, so who knows. Of course they’d rather sell the tickets…

Section 18, Row 7 at The Rock!
"Your 2010-2011 New Jersey Nets - It Is What It Is"

by eLonepb on Mar 18, 2011 9:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah I'll start a FanPost if things begin moving forward

I’m interested to see how many people would actually be down, especially if it was free.

Section 18, Row 7 at The Rock!
"Your 2010-2011 New Jersey Nets - It Is What It Is"

by eLonepb on Mar 18, 2011 9:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

if its free….you won’t have a problem finding people :)

@Al_Iannazzone: BREAKING NEWS: Nets are close to acquiring Deron WIlliams from Utah, sources told The Record.
-Feburary 23, 10:54 am.

by Andy. on Mar 18, 2011 9:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

I have a few ideas.

The Token Black-Jew

by NBRITM on Mar 18, 2011 9:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

Lemme hear em!

elonepb@gmail.com

Section 18, Row 7 at The Rock!
"Your 2010-2011 New Jersey Nets - It Is What It Is"

by eLonepb on Mar 18, 2011 9:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

This is a great idea

It’s so much easier to get chants going when you have a group that’s willing. All I need is some brew to get loud and animated.

by Rodney Buford on Mar 18, 2011 10:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

Is April 5 free for you? :)

Section 18, Row 7 at The Rock!
"Your 2010-2011 New Jersey Nets - It Is What It Is"

by eLonepb on Mar 18, 2011 10:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

Brazil!

@Al_Iannazzone: BREAKING NEWS: Nets are close to acquiring Deron WIlliams from Utah, sources told The Record.
-Feburary 23, 10:54 am.

by Andy. on Mar 18, 2011 11:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

This sounds awesome!

I would be totally willing to skip my Tuesday night class for this… for a “sudden illness”.

by bronxbombers2 on Mar 18, 2011 12:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

who?

Official Member of the "Travis OutLOL Society". 5 years, 35 Million Dollars worth of lulz.

by MrDollarBills on Mar 18, 2011 9:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

Ppl like andres ( not to single him out)

Had some words about letting CDR go for nothing

by nwkiddnj on Mar 18, 2011 9:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

we are headed in a new direction

why worry about players from that team? Good luck to all of them. Out of all of the 12-70ers, I have nothing against CDR because despite his brashness, the kid showed a competitive fire and I admire that trait in athletes. Where he went wrong was when he let Kiki throw him off of his game. He should have kept his chin up when his minutes got cut, and when he got into the game he should have played hard instead of sulking.

Either way, I think that he will still be able to hold a job in the NBA if he keeps working hard. I can’t say the same for Terrence, who is 1000x more talented yet 100000000000x more immature/stupid

Official Member of the "Travis OutLOL Society". 5 years, 35 Million Dollars worth of lulz.

by MrDollarBills on Mar 18, 2011 9:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

Lmao hey I'm not complaining about CDR I couldn't care less. WE GOT DERON WILLIAMS

Speaking of the other Williams the guy replied to my tweet

Me: Lmao TWill talking about passion? Smh

TWill: Dnt shake your head too much #Pause

He had the nerves to bash the L’Vill kids and say they didn’t have the same passion he had

by nwkiddnj on Mar 18, 2011 9:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

hahaha

that was pretty funny what he retweeted you, but this dude is crazy to call someone else out for a lack of passion. He can’t even be bothered to drive to the hole in real games

Official Member of the "Travis OutLOL Society". 5 years, 35 Million Dollars worth of lulz.

by MrDollarBills on Mar 18, 2011 9:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'd take CDR

over any of our wings any day of the week. Yes, that includes Morrow.

But I guess you are happy with Graham, Outlaw and company.

by Andres B on Mar 18, 2011 9:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

CDR>Sasha

@Al_Iannazzone: BREAKING NEWS: Nets are close to acquiring Deron WIlliams from Utah, sources told The Record.
-Feburary 23, 10:54 am.

by Andy. on Mar 18, 2011 9:39 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

haha Dwill has nothing to do with CDR

@Al_Iannazzone: BREAKING NEWS: Nets are close to acquiring Deron WIlliams from Utah, sources told The Record.
-Feburary 23, 10:54 am.

by Andy. on Mar 18, 2011 9:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'm not saying he did

im saying why cry over TWill and CDR we have DWILL.

Basically saying……. Let it go!

by nwkiddnj on Mar 18, 2011 9:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

I’m happy we have Deron Williams.

Me too!

by Andres B on Mar 18, 2011 9:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

CDR over Morrow??

That’s just insanity. I get the love for CDR, but to take him over one of the best shooters in the game is pretty crazy.

Section 18, Row 7 at The Rock!
"Your 2010-2011 New Jersey Nets - It Is What It Is"

by eLonepb on Mar 18, 2011 9:41 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

hell yes

@Al_Iannazzone: BREAKING NEWS: Nets are close to acquiring Deron WIlliams from Utah, sources told The Record.
-Feburary 23, 10:54 am.

by Andy. on Mar 18, 2011 9:43 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

I like Vujacic over TWill any day

Section 18, Row 7 at The Rock!
"Your 2010-2011 New Jersey Nets - It Is What It Is"

by eLonepb on Mar 18, 2011 9:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

Vujacic is trash

matador D and terrible fg % for a guy supposed to be a scorer. Dude’s a chucker and needs to go.

by Andres B on Mar 18, 2011 9:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

Aight let's make it interesting (and fair)...

What are our thoughts on TWill & CDR vs. Morrow & Vujacic?

I’m taking TWill and CDR and it’s not close for me. Thoughts?

The Token Black-Jew

by NBRITM on Mar 18, 2011 9:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

what about Twill+CDR vs. Vujacic+Outlaw?

Even easier. lol

@Al_Iannazzone: BREAKING NEWS: Nets are close to acquiring Deron WIlliams from Utah, sources told The Record.
-Feburary 23, 10:54 am.

by Andy. on Mar 18, 2011 9:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

Can you at least explain why you would

before people start flaming you?

Why would you want to keep those players? Both have terrible attitudes and honestly, Morrow is more productive than Williams despite Williams being a better ball handler, rebounder, and passer.

Morrow plays within himself, he doesn’t distract the team with immature behavior. T-Will has tons of talent, yet can’t put it together while Morrow works hard and is great at shooting the ball. You’d seriously take T-Will over him, right now? LOL

Official Member of the "Travis OutLOL Society". 5 years, 35 Million Dollars worth of lulz.

by MrDollarBills on Mar 18, 2011 9:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

Easily. I love Morrow, but come on — you’re saying you would take Morrow over TWill?

The Token Black-Jew

by NBRITM on Mar 18, 2011 9:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

Easily

Section 18, Row 7 at The Rock!
"Your 2010-2011 New Jersey Nets - It Is What It Is"

by eLonepb on Mar 18, 2011 9:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

Problem is this is not street ball it's a team sport

If your picking guys for a 2 on 2 then sure TWill but on a team playing in a system leave TWill at home in his diaper

by nwkiddnj on Mar 18, 2011 9:56 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Why are we still talking about T will?

Hes gone and has done absolutely NADA in Houston.

That being said we need a signficant increase at the 2 and the 3.

But Twill nor CDR were the answers either.

Nets 2011- looking forward to the lottery- again

by O Dog on Mar 18, 2011 9:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

That being said we need a signficant increase at the 2 and the 3.

.

true

@Al_Iannazzone: BREAKING NEWS: Nets are close to acquiring Deron WIlliams from Utah, sources told The Record.
-Feburary 23, 10:54 am.

by Andy. on Mar 18, 2011 10:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

None of the guys on our roster at the 2 and the 3

are suited to be starters today.

Perhaps Damion James down the road, but not today- NOT if we want Dwill here in 2 years.

But if Twill was here he would not be the answer either. He needs the ball in his hands to be effective and NO way would he have it with Dwill in town.

Nets 2011- looking forward to the lottery- again

by O Dog on Mar 18, 2011 10:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

TWill’s a far better passer than Vujacic; I’m not quite sure what you’re getting at.

The Token Black-Jew

by NBRITM on Mar 18, 2011 9:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

Because he's a better passer he's not a street baller?

he’s flashy. He’ll throw a nehindthe back pass….. Right out of bounds

by nwkiddnj on Mar 18, 2011 10:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

yep

Morrow is a one dimensional shooter that will prove to be valuable when we add more talent to open things up for him.

If T-Will was so goddamn awesome, he would have cracked Houston’s rotation. He can’t, because he does the same garbage down there that he was doing up here

Official Member of the "Travis OutLOL Society". 5 years, 35 Million Dollars worth of lulz.

by MrDollarBills on Mar 18, 2011 9:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

And Morrow LOVES BEING A NET

Section 18, Row 7 at The Rock!
"Your 2010-2011 New Jersey Nets - It Is What It Is"

by eLonepb on Mar 18, 2011 9:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

yeah

he’s grateful for the opportunity given to him. I take a guy like that 10x over a guy like Williams who has proved nothing and yet has a sense of entitlement

Official Member of the "Travis OutLOL Society". 5 years, 35 Million Dollars worth of lulz.

by MrDollarBills on Mar 18, 2011 10:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

sure

in a pickup game @ the local B-ball court, but in a professional setting? (NBA) it’s gotta be morrow and Sasha

by lemmetakeutodamovies on Mar 18, 2011 1:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

We don't win Toronto without him

We’re not in the game last night in the 4th without him.

Get over your hatred. The kid can shoot, plays defense better than TWill ever cared to, and has a TON of passion and energy that fuels the Nets.

I watched him in timeouts talking to everyone, trying to get them amped up, patting on the shoulders, supporting his teammates.

The kid wants to win, and he brings it every night.

TWill failed at every single one of those intangibles.

Section 18, Row 7 at The Rock!
"Your 2010-2011 New Jersey Nets - It Is What It Is"

by eLonepb on Mar 18, 2011 9:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

It is not hatred

If anything it’s you the one who needs to get over his hatred.

Vujacic cannot shoot. Dude shoots 39% from the field, for god’s sake.

He is not a better defender than Williams, he is a matador defender. He is a fake hustle guy.

by Andres B on Mar 18, 2011 9:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

Vujacic shoots 39%, so does TWill, so you lose your argument there

Fake hustle? The guy is flying around like a manic all game long. I’m not sure what you call “fake” hustle, but it’s pretty ridiculous.

Once again, we don’t win a number of games this year without him.

Section 18, Row 7 at The Rock!
"Your 2010-2011 New Jersey Nets - It Is What It Is"

by eLonepb on Mar 18, 2011 9:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, but TWill isn’t a “shooter.” He also has to play on limited time so he’s not playing within himself.

Obviously, you can counter with: well why isn’t he getting playing-time? That, I can’t answer.

The Token Black-Jew

by NBRITM on Mar 18, 2011 9:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

he did nothing

but fail in the minutes given to him.

Official Member of the "Travis OutLOL Society". 5 years, 35 Million Dollars worth of lulz.

by MrDollarBills on Mar 18, 2011 9:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

who besides kidd and VC post 2007

has triple-doubles as a net besides rafer alston?

The realist keepin it real amongst the surrealists

R.I.P. Big Homey Nate Dogg: "Cuz Iiiiiiiiii have ne-evv-ver met a giiiiiiiiiirrrrrrllllllllllllllllllll tha-at I loved in the whole wide wooorrrlllllddddddd"

by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Mar 18, 2011 12:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

not only that

he became the first players in Nets franchise HISTORY to ever put up a TD coming off the bench.

According to BBall reference, he is also the only player in NBA history between ages 19 and 23 to ever record a TD (with pts, rebs and asst) coming off the bench in a win.

by Andres B on Mar 18, 2011 12:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

No he wasn’t.

The Token Black-Jew

by NBRITM on Mar 18, 2011 9:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

TWill is not a scorer. He made up for that with what he brough in terms of rebounds and assists.

by Andres B on Mar 18, 2011 9:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

No he didn't

he played awful this year, and other than a two month stretch where he was allowed to dominate the ball(which is the only way that he can be productive), he hasn’t shown anything worth a damn in his NBA career other than the fact that he’s soft, insubordinate, and possibly uncoachable.

Official Member of the "Travis OutLOL Society". 5 years, 35 Million Dollars worth of lulz.

by MrDollarBills on Mar 18, 2011 9:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

he played awful according to you

yet he was averaging more rebounds and assists than Morrow while playing significantly less minutes per game.

by Andres B on Mar 18, 2011 9:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

Morrow contributed more

and gasp, he actually gives a bleep about the team and his career, unlike the idiot that you’re blindly defending

Official Member of the "Travis OutLOL Society". 5 years, 35 Million Dollars worth of lulz.

by MrDollarBills on Mar 18, 2011 10:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

btw

Williams also played well last year under Frank, he averaged 10 and 6 over the first 17 games last season, not great but decent for a rookie who had just arrived to the league.

funny how you downplay Williams’ play last game and deify guys like Morrow, Williams’ level of play over the last 2 months of the season was insane and it’s a level Morrow has never reached and never could.

by Andres B on Mar 18, 2011 9:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

BlackBoiPacino is a deity

Official Member of the "Travis OutLOL Society". 5 years, 35 Million Dollars worth of lulz.

by MrDollarBills on Mar 18, 2011 10:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

last year, last year

what about this year

Avery rightfully handed T-Will his ass.

Tell me why Williams cannot crack Houston’s rotation this year if he is so great. TELL ME.

Official Member of the "Travis OutLOL Society". 5 years, 35 Million Dollars worth of lulz.

by MrDollarBills on Mar 18, 2011 10:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

its Adelmans fault

Oh, he also didnt have training camp also.
Courtney Lee is pretty good (cough cough)
Chase Budinger is up and coming

Im sure I could come up with a few other ones…..
But certainly nothing to do with his ability

Nets 2011- looking forward to the lottery- again

by O Dog on Mar 18, 2011 10:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

I guess

you thought it was Drazne and Gerald Wallace’s fault that Adelman didn’t play them.

by Andres B on Mar 18, 2011 10:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

they were bums

time proved Adelman was right about them.

by Andres B on Mar 18, 2011 10:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

Gerald Wallace's game...

..was nowhere near the level that it is now back when he was a rookie in Sacto. Stop it

Official Member of the "Travis OutLOL Society". 5 years, 35 Million Dollars worth of lulz.

by MrDollarBills on Mar 18, 2011 10:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

Good Try

If I recollect You specifically said that Twill would thrive playing for a ‘players coach’ like Adelman.

Now Adelman doesnt have a clue because Twill cant get the splinters out of his u know what.

Or he had no training camp which is why he wasnt playing, yet guys they traded for Goran Dragic, YES, Goran Dragic has been getting more PT.

Lets face it, hes not as good as many people thought. He had a good 20 game stretch last year. So did Harold Baby Jordan Miner, Walter Berry, Pearl Washington- infinite amount of players who tease u with a glimpse- and then never become the player u expect.

Nets 2011- looking forward to the lottery- again

by O Dog on Mar 18, 2011 10:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

I never said

Adelman was a player’s coach.

I’m surprised Adelman is so stubborn. I don’t care, he’s about to retire so who cares about him. Morey says he thinks TWill can play at an All-Star level he and Rick are obviously not in the same page. Adelman complained about the Brooks and Battier trades. He said there wasn’t a spot for TWill when they traded for him. He’s gone so who cares about this guy, it’s not like he hasn’t been wrong before (Again GWallace, Drazen HAHAHAHA).

And so what if Adelman doesn’t think Williams is not a pg.

by Andres B on Mar 18, 2011 10:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

Hes not a PG, SG or SF

Hes a tweener.

Right now T will is a back of the bench player.

All star- now thats laughable!

Nets 2011- looking forward to the lottery- again

by O Dog on Mar 18, 2011 10:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

I get it... you know more than Morey

who is one of the savviest GMs in the NBA.

by Andres B on Mar 18, 2011 10:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

Whats he supposed to say?

Hi Im Darryl Morey and I just traded my 2012 1st round pick for a guy who cant get off the bench because my senile coach wont play him.

Do u think if he said the truth it would fly well. Hey Media, heres how I really feel…..Terrence Williams, who I think has all star abilities, has been an utter disappointment since he has been here. We think these are some areas of improvement for him

1- hes athletic like MJ but doesnt go to the hole
2-hes an adept passer like Magic, but turns it over way too much
3- hes improving his 3pt game to be like Ray Allen but right now shoots it like Tony Allen.

His job as GM is not to devalue his players, in case they dont work out there, he can deal them elsewhere.

Nets 2011- looking forward to the lottery- again

by O Dog on Mar 18, 2011 10:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

well

I don’t recall having heard he believes Courtney Lee can be an All-Star. I don’t recall having heard he said he thinks Thabeet is gonna be the next Mutombo.

by Andres B on Mar 18, 2011 10:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

And I always liked Adelman

but let’s be honest here: he hasn’t been fair. AARON BROOKS had been playing like absolute CRPA this season, and at one point left the game and went home during the 4th quarter of a game because he was mad at Adelman for not playing him. Now, that’s a HEADCASE, that’s POOR ATTITUDE and that’s being SELFISH. Imagina if TWill did that. Yet Adelman kept playing and then complained when Morey traded him. And you’re trying to tell me Williams is being benched because he is a headcase and his attitude stinks?

by Andres B on Mar 18, 2011 10:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

Aaron Brooks is Williams' boy

shocking behavior

they’re really raising em right out there in Seattle. Brandon Roy is like the only guy that seems to have his head screwed on straight

Official Member of the "Travis OutLOL Society". 5 years, 35 Million Dollars worth of lulz.

by MrDollarBills on Mar 18, 2011 10:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

No what I am saying

is that if his attitude is great and hes not a headcase in Houston then the reason hes not playing is either a) the players in front of him are GREAT or b) hes really not that good

Nets 2011- looking forward to the lottery- again

by O Dog on Mar 18, 2011 10:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

and went home during the 4th quarter of a game because he was mad at Adelman for not playing him… Imagina if TWill did that

T-Will can’t if he doesn’t show up to the game on time.

"I don’t think we want to be like the Knicks. I think we’d more like to resemble the Lakers." - Mikhail Prokhorov

Brooklyn's Population: 2,567,098 - It would only take about .701% of Brooklyn's Population to fill the Barclays Center.

The Nets need a wing. Get on it King.

by Maxyboy on Mar 18, 2011 10:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

T will shows up late brook leaves early

I see the parallels

"NETS GET DERON WILLIAMS!" Thats a sick joke, wait has nets daily been hacked. Is this real???- First reaction to Deron Williams trade.

by shea23 on Mar 18, 2011 10:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

Mayo and Randolph

were late to a pre-game shootaround too this season, so what?

by Andres B on Mar 18, 2011 10:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

Mayo and Randolph are your examples to prove T-Will is not a headcase...?

"I don’t think we want to be like the Knicks. I think we’d more like to resemble the Lakers." - Mikhail Prokhorov

Brooklyn's Population: 2,567,098 - It would only take about .701% of Brooklyn's Population to fill the Barclays Center.

The Nets need a wing. Get on it King.

by Maxyboy on Mar 18, 2011 10:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

Its not the first time hes been late.

Been pulling that one for a while. Being on time isn’t that hard to do as for Mayo last time I checked folks weren’t singing his praises either.

"NETS GET DERON WILLIAMS!" Thats a sick joke, wait has nets daily been hacked. Is this real???- First reaction to Deron Williams trade.

by shea23 on Mar 18, 2011 10:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

btw

Williams said he was late to ONE shootaround.

by Andres B on Mar 18, 2011 10:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

Because it is sooo common to plead guilty, right?

"I don’t think we want to be like the Knicks. I think we’d more like to resemble the Lakers." - Mikhail Prokhorov

Brooklyn's Population: 2,567,098 - It would only take about .701% of Brooklyn's Population to fill the Barclays Center.

The Nets need a wing. Get on it King.

by Maxyboy on Mar 18, 2011 10:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

really?

then why is it that we’ve heard about Williams being late and insubordinate dating back to last year?

Why did Rod Thorn have to threaten him with the D-League?

You act like it’s everyone else, and not Williams that is the problem. I hope that you don’t have that same attitude in your own life bro

Official Member of the "Travis OutLOL Society". 5 years, 35 Million Dollars worth of lulz.

by MrDollarBills on Mar 18, 2011 10:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

because that's what the Nets leaked

and want to you to believe to help excuse the move?

by Andres B on Mar 18, 2011 10:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

I remember Avery said

“this has happened once, or twice, or maybe 3 times”. I found it strange.

by Andres B on Mar 18, 2011 10:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

It was a smart basketball move. They don't have to be excused.

We got two first round picks and a guy who has been a positive influence on a team for a guy who is a headcase that had devalued himself and squandered his talent.

"I don’t think we want to be like the Knicks. I think we’d more like to resemble the Lakers." - Mikhail Prokhorov

Brooklyn's Population: 2,567,098 - It would only take about .701% of Brooklyn's Population to fill the Barclays Center.

The Nets need a wing. Get on it King.

by Maxyboy on Mar 18, 2011 10:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

LOL

exactly

IT’S EVERYONE ELSE’S FAULT, NOT T-WILL’S!!!

T-Will has this very same mindset and it’s leading to his undoing

Official Member of the "Travis OutLOL Society". 5 years, 35 Million Dollars worth of lulz.

by MrDollarBills on Mar 18, 2011 10:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

Morey is happy with his attitude and rpaised him for it

but I guess you know more than him, so lets ignore what Daryl has to say if biased people who don’t have even the most remote idea about what’s going on in Houston’s lockerroom say kid’s a headcase.

by Andres B on Mar 18, 2011 10:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

yup

that’s why he’s playing big minutes for them

it’s called having tact by not devaluing a player in public so that maybe they can pawn him off on another team, since Morey realizes that the Nets ripped him off

Official Member of the "Travis OutLOL Society". 5 years, 35 Million Dollars worth of lulz.

by MrDollarBills on Mar 18, 2011 10:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

Morey is not the coach

But don’t worry, Adelman will soon be retired.

by Andres B on Mar 18, 2011 10:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

and Williams will be playing basketball

….in Israel

Official Member of the "Travis OutLOL Society". 5 years, 35 Million Dollars worth of lulz.

by MrDollarBills on Mar 18, 2011 10:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

yes

if the Rockets play pre-season exhibition games there.

by Andres B on Mar 18, 2011 10:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

also

that is also why Gerald Wallace and Drazen Petrovic didn’t play under Uncle Rick either… BUMS!

by Andres B on Mar 18, 2011 10:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

Well Andres...

if his attitude is so great why cant he get off the pine.

if hes a solid citizen then no reason for him to be sitting behind Goran Dragic or Courtney Lee, right?….unless hes not really that good

Nets 2011- looking forward to the lottery- again

by O Dog on Mar 18, 2011 10:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

or unless Adelman

is making the same mistake he did with Petrovic and Wallace.

by Andres B on Mar 18, 2011 10:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

Well...in his defense

Petro was behind Clyde the Glyde and wallace was behind Webber and Peja.

Now, should they have gotten more burn? Certainly in Petrovics case- yes, he was a premier EU player previously. Wallace? He worked to become the player he was. He wasnt that player in Sac.

Nets 2011- looking forward to the lottery- again

by O Dog on Mar 18, 2011 10:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

He killed himself by mentioning Wallace and Drazen

like seriously?

Andres did you even watch Gerald Wallace play during his rookie year? He was athletic but his game needed a TON of work

ridiculous

Official Member of the "Travis OutLOL Society". 5 years, 35 Million Dollars worth of lulz.

by MrDollarBills on Mar 18, 2011 10:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

It's you the one killing himself

I did, dude was something they need, they lacked that athletic SF who could play some PF. Do you know Lawrence FUNDERBURKE was Chris Webber’s back up?

by Andres B on Mar 18, 2011 10:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

Drazne was a established enough player, he had a resume coming from Europe. And Drexler and Petro could have played together. Easily. Did Phil Jackson not play Toni Kukoc because he had Scottie Pippen? And Drazne was arguably the better player in Europe. It’s not like he was an unknown.

And Adelman played bums like Lawrence Funderburke ahead of Wallace in Sacramento.

by Andres B on Mar 18, 2011 10:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

you are being revisionist

be wary. You are heading down a slippery slope here.

Official Member of the "Travis OutLOL Society". 5 years, 35 Million Dollars worth of lulz.

by MrDollarBills on Mar 18, 2011 10:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

How's this?:

Terrence Williams Offensive Rating: 80
Travis Outlaw: 103

"I don’t think we want to be like the Knicks. I think we’d more like to resemble the Lakers." - Mikhail Prokhorov

Brooklyn's Population: 2,567,098 - It would only take about .701% of Brooklyn's Population to fill the Barclays Center.

The Nets need a wing. Get on it King.

by Maxyboy on Mar 18, 2011 10:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

T-Will: NEGATIVE 0.6 WIN SHARES

"I don’t think we want to be like the Knicks. I think we’d more like to resemble the Lakers." - Mikhail Prokhorov

Brooklyn's Population: 2,567,098 - It would only take about .701% of Brooklyn's Population to fill the Barclays Center.

The Nets need a wing. Get on it King.

by Maxyboy on Mar 18, 2011 10:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

you and your stats

according to those stats you are bringing you told me the other day Zach Randolph is as goo a defender as Kenyon Martin. Whatever.

by Andres B on Mar 18, 2011 10:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

You've used stats to defend T-Will.

Why can’t I use them against him?

"I don’t think we want to be like the Knicks. I think we’d more like to resemble the Lakers." - Mikhail Prokhorov

Brooklyn's Population: 2,567,098 - It would only take about .701% of Brooklyn's Population to fill the Barclays Center.

The Nets need a wing. Get on it King.

by Maxyboy on Mar 18, 2011 10:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

I don't care

about those particular formulas, if it says Williams is worse than Outlaw or that Martin is as bad a defender as ZBo it’s trash.

by Andres B on Mar 18, 2011 10:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

DWill has a negative + – since joining the Nets, he must suck!

by Andres B on Mar 18, 2011 10:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

+- is a stat indicative of the team.

If a team loses 105-104 and a member on the losing team played the entire night, he would have a 1 + even if he put up all 104 points.

Win shares focuses on the player.

James did not allow for the possibility of negative Win Shares. In his system, the fewest number of Win Shares a player can have is zero. In my system, a player can have negative Win Shares. I justify this by thinking about it in the following way: a player with negative Win Shares was so poor that he essentially took away wins that his teammates had generated

"I don’t think we want to be like the Knicks. I think we’d more like to resemble the Lakers." - Mikhail Prokhorov

Brooklyn's Population: 2,567,098 - It would only take about .701% of Brooklyn's Population to fill the Barclays Center.

The Nets need a wing. Get on it King.

by Maxyboy on Mar 18, 2011 10:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

first

it’s not a 100% objective formula and it doesn’t take into account all the factors, it’s actually impossible, and it’s ridiculous to bring Williams’ WS since he has played so little and since he’s in Houston he basically has played nothing but garbage time minutes of blowout games.

by Andres B on Mar 18, 2011 10:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

WS is a cumulative stat.

What has T-Will done to prove he is a positive influence on a team?

"I don’t think we want to be like the Knicks. I think we’d more like to resemble the Lakers." - Mikhail Prokhorov

Brooklyn's Population: 2,567,098 - It would only take about .701% of Brooklyn's Population to fill the Barclays Center.

The Nets need a wing. Get on it King.

by Maxyboy on Mar 18, 2011 11:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

What's wrong with win shares?

http://www.basketball-reference.com/about/ws.html

Win Shares

1. Chris Paul-NOH 13.0
2. Pau Gasol-LAL 12.3
3. LeBron James-MIA 12.3
4. Dwight Howard-ORL 12.0
5. Kevin Love-MIN 11.5
6. Dwyane Wade-MIA 10.0
7. Derrick Rose-CHI 10.0
8. Kevin Durant-OKC 9.8
9. Paul Pierce-BOS 9.7
10. LaMarcus Aldridge-POR 9.4
11. Al Horford-ATL 9.4
12. Dirk Nowitzki-DAL 9.4
13. Ray Allen-BOS 8.8
14. Lamar Odom-LAL 8.7
15. Kobe Bryant-LAL 8.6
16. Manu Ginobili-SAS 8.6
17. Zach Randolph-MEM 8.5
18. Nene Hilario-DEN 8.3
19. Chris Bosh-MIA 8.1
20. Luol Deng-CHI 8.0

"I don’t think we want to be like the Knicks. I think we’d more like to resemble the Lakers." - Mikhail Prokhorov

Brooklyn's Population: 2,567,098 - It would only take about .701% of Brooklyn's Population to fill the Barclays Center.

The Nets need a wing. Get on it King.

by Maxyboy on Mar 18, 2011 10:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

Kevin Love 5th

ahead of Derrick Rose, enough said.

by Andres B on Mar 18, 2011 10:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

It's an individual stat.

Rose BY HIMSELF has accounted for 10 wins, but the reason he is the MVP is because he has raised the game of others to produce wins as well.

Love has accounted for 11.5 of the TWolves meager wins which is fair, IMO, the reason the team does not have more is because he does not raise the game of others.

"I don’t think we want to be like the Knicks. I think we’d more like to resemble the Lakers." - Mikhail Prokhorov

Brooklyn's Population: 2,567,098 - It would only take about .701% of Brooklyn's Population to fill the Barclays Center.

The Nets need a wing. Get on it King.

by Maxyboy on Mar 18, 2011 11:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

you clearly did not watch Wallace

play during his early days in Sacto.

He played behind the best shooting SF in basketball at that time. His game was not DEVELOPED like it is now. This is madness

Official Member of the "Travis OutLOL Society". 5 years, 35 Million Dollars worth of lulz.

by MrDollarBills on Mar 18, 2011 10:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

Who would you rather play?

A raw Gerald Wallace or LAWRENCE FUNDERBURKE.

by Andres B on Mar 18, 2011 10:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah not only behind Peja

But that Sacramento team was LOADED. CWebb at the 4, Hedo, Jimmy Jackson came off the bench for them- all guys who could play the 3 or the 4.

Wallace was a raw athlete. Shoot, he only averaged 11 ppg the following year he left the Kings for an expansion team. He made himself into the player he is today and deserves a lot of credit.

Nets 2011- looking forward to the lottery- again

by O Dog on Mar 18, 2011 10:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

Wallace became "Gerald Wallace"

through hard work, dedication, and professionalism.

Williams has never played 1/10th as hard as Wallace has in games.

This is hilariously sad.

Official Member of the "Travis OutLOL Society". 5 years, 35 Million Dollars worth of lulz.

by MrDollarBills on Mar 18, 2011 10:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

ANSWER MY QUESTIONS

Did Phil Jackson not play Toni Kukoc because he had Scottie Pippen?

Was Drazen an unknown when he came to the NBA?

by Andres B on Mar 18, 2011 10:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

Of course Phil played Toni, your point?

No he wasn’t. Drazen was also playing behind a hall of famer, and frankly, the fact that you’re trying to invoke Drazen’s name while making a case for this clown is shameful.

Toni Kukoc, Drazen, Gerald Wallace….all players that worked hard and didn’t act like clowns. Guys that didn’t shy away from contact, or disrupt the team with their antics. You are really comparing that a-hole Terrence Williams to these MEN?

Your obsession with him is disturbing. Williams did not give a damn about the Nets, or his fans. I question if he even gives a damn about his two children .

Official Member of the "Travis OutLOL Society". 5 years, 35 Million Dollars worth of lulz.

by MrDollarBills on Mar 18, 2011 10:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

It doesn't mean Williams can be that good

It jsut proves Adelman has a track record about being WRONG with talented guys. So it’d be great if some of you here tried to stop pretending te fact he doesn’t play TWill means he sucks.

by Andres B on Mar 18, 2011 10:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

You excused Adelman

for not playing Petrovic because they had Drexler. That’s why I brought the Kukoc example.

by Andres B on Mar 18, 2011 10:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

I think he missed on Petro

But, once again that Portland team was loaded. Clyde at the 2, Big Jerome Kersey at the 3. Danny Ainge coming off the bench. Cliff Robinson who could play the 3.

And they were a championship contender.

Nets 2011- looking forward to the lottery- again

by O Dog on Mar 18, 2011 10:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

they could have used a 20ppg scorer and a guy who became one of the best shooter in the history of the game.

by Andres B on Mar 18, 2011 10:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

I agree

I think he missed on that one. And we ended up as the beneficiary.

But watching Twill- even last year when he played extremely well for a stretch- I see significant holes in his game- and I dont think hes has fixed them.

Nets 2011- looking forward to the lottery- again

by O Dog on Mar 18, 2011 10:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

and dont forget terry porter

they got rid of john paxson and passed up on mj because the backcourt was loaded

drazen had no chance playing in portland. he got drafted to the worse possible scenario

The realist keepin it real amongst the surrealists

R.I.P. Big Homey Nate Dogg: "Cuz Iiiiiiiiii have ne-evv-ver met a giiiiiiiiiirrrrrrllllllllllllllllllll tha-at I loved in the whole wide wooorrrlllllddddddd"

by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Mar 18, 2011 1:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don’t get why people act like Houston has no guards and T-Will still can’t crack their rotation. Houston’s SG rotation is Kevin Martin, Courtney Lee, and Chase Budinger. No matter what your opinion is of those players, they’re all starting caliber SGs (one nearly all star) and they’ve all been with the team since training camp. Don’t pretend that TWill isn’t getting burn over scrubs, these are legit guys.

by mikegrand15 on Mar 18, 2011 5:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

and up until the trade deadline add shane battier to that list

people act like t-will sucks compared to morrow ad vujacic and outlaw.

i’ll take t-will’s point forward skills any day. he ran sets better than harris did and is the most athletic player since VC

what kind of player gets traded mid-season and starts over 4 starting quality wings who have been with the team at least for the whole summer?

The realist keepin it real amongst the surrealists

R.I.P. Big Homey Nate Dogg: "Cuz Iiiiiiiiii have ne-evv-ver met a giiiiiiiiiirrrrrrllllllllllllllllllll tha-at I loved in the whole wide wooorrrlllllddddddd"

by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Mar 18, 2011 7:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't recall T-Will hustling, period.

Official Member of the "Travis OutLOL Society". 5 years, 35 Million Dollars worth of lulz.

by MrDollarBills on Mar 18, 2011 9:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

To be fair

Sashsa is a “shooter” for christ sake

"NETS GET DERON WILLIAMS!" Thats a sick joke, wait has nets daily been hacked. Is this real???- First reaction to Deron Williams trade.

by shea23 on Mar 18, 2011 10:12 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

well, he is indeed a shooter

he shoots and shoots and shoots… whether he makes the shots or not is another story. ;-D

by Andres B on Mar 18, 2011 10:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

Matador defender…first time i’ve heard of that. lol

@Al_Iannazzone: BREAKING NEWS: Nets are close to acquiring Deron WIlliams from Utah, sources told The Record.
-Feburary 23, 10:54 am.

by Andy. on Mar 18, 2011 9:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

he plays hard

can’t say the same about T-Will, who is scared to be touched on the way to the rim so he throws up floaters, or settles for three pointers that he can’t make

yep.

Official Member of the "Travis OutLOL Society". 5 years, 35 Million Dollars worth of lulz.

by MrDollarBills on Mar 18, 2011 9:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

Come on eLone, you’re better than that.

The Token Black-Jew

by NBRITM on Mar 18, 2011 9:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

Am I?

I watched him last night in the huddles. What am I missing?

Section 18, Row 7 at The Rock!
"Your 2010-2011 New Jersey Nets - It Is What It Is"

by eLonepb on Mar 18, 2011 9:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

I’m not denying that Vujacic is a good personality to have on the team; I see him cheering on the sideline often and he gets guys into it. All I’m arguing is that I’d rather have TWill when everything is taking into account.

The Token Black-Jew

by NBRITM on Mar 18, 2011 9:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

That's what I don't get

When you take “everything” into account you have a player who is a malcontent, poor shooter, turnover prone, hyper athletic, ego filled player who thinks too highly of himself.

Vujacic is a teammates driven, equally poor shooter but makes big shots, less turnover prone, hyper energy, ego filled player who thinks too highly of himself.

One wants to be a part of the team and make other people better. The other wants to be a one man show and blames everyone else for his problems.

Section 18, Row 7 at The Rock!
"Your 2010-2011 New Jersey Nets - It Is What It Is"

by eLonepb on Mar 18, 2011 10:01 AM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

i rather have vujacic since he is a team first guy

the only way i see twill thriving is if some team allows him to play pg where he can get big minutes

he doesnt have a good enough shot to play sg

by jaydee2327 on Mar 18, 2011 1:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

graham is a team first guy do you want him?

this is a business. good coaches can control and harness malcontents. no matter how much of a team first guy sasha is he has peaked. 5 years in the league and he’s still chucking at a 39% clip.

i’ll take t-will and cd-r over outlaw and sasha anyday. especially when you compare age, potential, and salary

i wonder how many people in portland and detroit were upset at getting rasheed or people in golden state when they got baron and s-jax. get players out toxic environments and its suprising how much they change

The realist keepin it real amongst the surrealists

R.I.P. Big Homey Nate Dogg: "Cuz Iiiiiiiiii have ne-evv-ver met a giiiiiiiiiirrrrrrllllllllllllllllllll tha-at I loved in the whole wide wooorrrlllllddddddd"

by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Mar 18, 2011 7:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

you are not taking EVERYTHING into account

because if you are, you wouldn’t take a piss poor teammate like Williams over Sasha, who despite his faults is a good teammate and runs hard.

Official Member of the "Travis OutLOL Society". 5 years, 35 Million Dollars worth of lulz.

by MrDollarBills on Mar 18, 2011 10:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

When you are comparing guys that put up comparable numbers, what is the incentive to take the guy who is a malcontent over the guy who hustles and plays hard?

"I don’t think we want to be like the Knicks. I think we’d more like to resemble the Lakers." - Mikhail Prokhorov

Brooklyn's Population: 2,567,098 - It would only take about .701% of Brooklyn's Population to fill the Barclays Center.

The Nets need a wing. Get on it King.

by Maxyboy on Mar 18, 2011 10:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

you said that, not me.

Yet, Graham doesn’t disrupt the team, make enemies out of his coaching staff and teammates, and can be bothered to show up on time for work.

Official Member of the "Travis OutLOL Society". 5 years, 35 Million Dollars worth of lulz.

by MrDollarBills on Mar 18, 2011 10:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

I want players in here that want to work hard

play hard, and can work with their teammates

there’s a lot of talented guys out there who are not in the NBA because they had the same piss poor approach to their job that Williams has.

Graham is a guy that is grateful for the opportunity that he has been given. He’s just not very talented.

Official Member of the "Travis OutLOL Society". 5 years, 35 Million Dollars worth of lulz.

by MrDollarBills on Mar 18, 2011 10:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

then whats the point of coaching

some players are uncoachable but thats rare and its situational. if gregg poppovich could coach stephen jackson and hedo turkoglu then any player can be coached in the right situation

and 12-70 was a horrible situation for anyone especially rookies

The realist keepin it real amongst the surrealists

R.I.P. Big Homey Nate Dogg: "Cuz Iiiiiiiiii have ne-evv-ver met a giiiiiiiiiirrrrrrllllllllllllllllllll tha-at I loved in the whole wide wooorrrlllllddddddd"

by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Mar 18, 2011 1:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Morrow is one of my favourite

In terms of talent the T Will trade is awful. The dude doesn’t seem to care to put it together. AJ obviously not the couch to handle headcases. When we were rebuilding a team and chasing some Melo fantasy I had a problem with it. Since we had no star in site and the team kept dumping an young talent we had.

Now he have a star though it might be best he’s off the roster.

"NETS GET DERON WILLIAMS!" Thats a sick joke, wait has nets daily been hacked. Is this real???- First reaction to Deron Williams trade.

by shea23 on Mar 18, 2011 10:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

"might be"

it is best that he is off of the roster

We have a star player. No need for babies or guys that cannot be bothered to show up for work on time.

Official Member of the "Travis OutLOL Society". 5 years, 35 Million Dollars worth of lulz.

by MrDollarBills on Mar 18, 2011 10:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

How cAn the trade be horrible when the draft hasn't started

you Dnt know who we are picking up with thos picks. King has a good drafting record

by nwkiddnj on Mar 18, 2011 10:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'd rather have Morrow

and you can have those other three players.

Official Member of the "Travis OutLOL Society". 5 years, 35 Million Dollars worth of lulz.

by MrDollarBills on Mar 18, 2011 9:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

I griped about losing CDR for nothing.

I also complained about Morrow’s (lack of) D when he was signed. That said, his 3’s and ability to open the paint makes up for a lot.

My rankings of the wings:
~Morrow (Nets haven’t had a shot like his since KK)
~TWill (even tho he doesn’t play and is a head case, still the most athletic of this bunch… by far!)
~CLee (decent starters on most teams)
~CDR (would be a decent starter if, like Twill he checked his head)
~Sasha (clear bench player but I still like his shot more than most on this board)
~Tal, Killer, Jax, Muwu, just about anyone on this board.
~My grandmother
~My pet dog
~Anyone else I forgot
~Anyone else I never met or haven’t met yet
~Outlol

Opulence, I has it.

by J-Sal on Mar 18, 2011 11:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

You would take CDR over Morrow?

Official Member of the "Travis OutLOL Society". 5 years, 35 Million Dollars worth of lulz.

by MrDollarBills on Mar 18, 2011 9:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

What is so funny?

I like Morrow but he is overrated by most Nets fans, his average in points is nothing special for a guy who plays that many minutes, any player who some decent offensive game could put up that ppg average, and his assist numbers are ridiculous for a guy who gets that many minutes. Dude is ridiculously one-dimensional. His defense is downright atrocious. His FG % is nothing special for a spot up shooter. He is a great 3 pt shooter, but that’s about it.

by Andres B on Mar 18, 2011 9:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

exactly. He is a borderline starter…he’s in the league to shoot the 3 and nothing else.

@Al_Iannazzone: BREAKING NEWS: Nets are close to acquiring Deron WIlliams from Utah, sources told The Record.
-Feburary 23, 10:54 am.

by Andy. on Mar 18, 2011 9:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

I mean

what makes him better than say Kyle Korver? KK actually has some nice post up game and is a better passer (not that he is Magic Johnson, but you don’t need to be him to be a superior passer to Ammo).

Look at yesterday´s game: Morrow scores 8 pts in the first 2-3 minutes of the game, then he does NOTHING, and I mean ABSOLUTELY NOTHING the rest of the game, not a single point more

I like him but he is what he is, some fans here overrate him like crazy.

by Andres B on Mar 18, 2011 9:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

9 points in 22 seconds was it?

I can’t remember…

Section 18, Row 7 at The Rock!
"Your 2010-2011 New Jersey Nets - It Is What It Is"

by eLonepb on Mar 18, 2011 9:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

What would have T-Will or CDR done last night?

Especially T-Will….throw up some floaters, turn the ball over? what are you looking for here?

Official Member of the "Travis OutLOL Society". 5 years, 35 Million Dollars worth of lulz.

by MrDollarBills on Mar 18, 2011 9:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

the one GREAT thing that Morrow does

is better than the other average things that CDR does. Stop it Andres. Let your attachment to the 12-70 team go

Official Member of the "Travis OutLOL Society". 5 years, 35 Million Dollars worth of lulz.

by MrDollarBills on Mar 18, 2011 9:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I'm attached to the 12-70 team

I miss Bobby Simmons every time I see Outlaw or Graham.

by Andres B on Mar 18, 2011 9:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

not bad numbers

in 21 mpg.

Outlaw pupts up 9 ppg in 30mpg while shooting 37% from the floor.

by Andres B on Mar 18, 2011 9:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

not to mention

Outlaw makes 8 times as much money as CDR does.

by Andres B on Mar 18, 2011 9:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

I used him as the comparison

because tha’s one of the guys we brought in his place and one of our wings who gets the most minutes, so I think it’s at least understandable that some of us complain about it since in your post you implied you don’t understand why some of us complain about letting him go for nothing .

by Andres B on Mar 18, 2011 10:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, so what is he doing that 80% of other shooting guards can't do?

I mean, we gave him away for nothing, it’s no big deal to me. What makes him different from any other average shooting guard out there? Giving away a common commodity for nothing isn’t exactly terrible

by muwu on Mar 18, 2011 10:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

Giving away a common commodity for nothing isn’t exactly terrible.

Correct. However, purchasing a less than common commodity for a huge sum when you could have just held onto the common commodity which cost you a lot less to begin with, is.

The Token Black-Jew

by NBRITM on Mar 18, 2011 11:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

I think Nets could use CDR the most right now….out of the exnets from a year ago.

He just had a knack for scoring…

@Al_Iannazzone: BREAKING NEWS: Nets are close to acquiring Deron WIlliams from Utah, sources told The Record.
-Feburary 23, 10:54 am.

by Andy. on Mar 18, 2011 9:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

a guy in front of me at the clippers game was wearing a Doulgas-Roberts #17

and i thought to myself, “people bought this guy’s jersey?”

I miss the days when America was only morally bankrupt...

by Chakroot on Mar 18, 2011 1:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

One of the Nets brass talked to Jubilation Kid last night

Said they were trying to reach out to him, and they got his name and number – and brought him over into the HighPoint courtside club section.

I wonder what they’ll do with him! They showed him on the big screen and the crowd cheered loudly.

Section 18, Row 7 at The Rock!
"Your 2010-2011 New Jersey Nets - It Is What It Is"

by eLonepb on Mar 18, 2011 9:33 AM EDT reply actions  

will he become

the Fireman Ed of Nets fandom?

Official Member of the "Travis OutLOL Society". 5 years, 35 Million Dollars worth of lulz.

by MrDollarBills on Mar 18, 2011 9:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

nets want him to be a young

@Al_Iannazzone: BREAKING NEWS: Nets are close to acquiring Deron WIlliams from Utah, sources told The Record.
-Feburary 23, 10:54 am.

by Andy. on Mar 18, 2011 9:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

Go Bulls!

tonight that is…even tho Playoffs are a dream at this point

If I can just hide, the sinner inside, and keep him denied.
How sweet life would be, if I could be free, from the sinner in me.

by BrooNets on Mar 18, 2011 10:33 AM EDT reply actions  

lol

If I can just hide, the sinner inside, and keep him denied.
How sweet life would be, if I could be free, from the sinner in me.

by BrooNets on Mar 18, 2011 10:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

whole lot of bandwidth

wasted on an argument that CDR is better than ANYONE.

He isn’t playing. He’s out of the rotation. Coaches ultimately hate him.

by Net Income on Mar 18, 2011 11:21 AM EDT reply actions   2 recs

I rather keep him for 700k

than give Outlaw 7 Mill.

"I think I’m the best point guard in the league. No reason. I just think I’m the best.’’-Deron Williams.

by JJ25 on Mar 18, 2011 11:27 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

CDR has more talent than most players on the Nets. That’s the truth.

@Al_Iannazzone: BREAKING NEWS: Nets are close to acquiring Deron WIlliams from Utah, sources told The Record.
-Feburary 23, 10:54 am.

by Andy. on Mar 18, 2011 11:35 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

So does T.Will

but these guys just don’t get it.

by Rodney Buford on Mar 18, 2011 11:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

so what

meaningless.

if your coach and teammates and the front office ALL have problems with you, your talent is wasted.

by Net Income on Mar 18, 2011 12:48 PM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

Agreed completely

Sorry but I don’t know what CDR has that good talent.
He doesn’t have good ball control and not a good jumper.
When he decreased his role, then he did play nothing for Nets.
And he had complaints and wanted to get out of Nets.

Nets was 12-80 in the last season.
So I think we need to develop our looking the player.

by DKang on Mar 18, 2011 11:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

Zach Randolph away from being a good top 5 team in the east

Brook Lopez / Johan Petro
Zach Randolph / Second Rnd
Damion James / Travis Outlaw
Lakers Pick / Anthony Morrow
Deron Williams / Jordan Farmar

"I think I’m the best point guard in the league. No reason. I just think I’m the best.’’-Deron Williams.

by JJ25 on Mar 18, 2011 11:38 AM EDT reply actions  

no hump?

@Al_Iannazzone: BREAKING NEWS: Nets are close to acquiring Deron WIlliams from Utah, sources told The Record.
-Feburary 23, 10:54 am.

by Andy. on Mar 18, 2011 11:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

Why though

Zach Randolph is better than him, if Hump is willing for 5 Million then yes no more than that, and if they get Howard they will get every rebound.

Howard
Randolph
Humphries

is that even fair?

"I think I’m the best point guard in the league. No reason. I just think I’m the best.’’-Deron Williams.

by JJ25 on Mar 18, 2011 11:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

I doubt nets will pay more than $7 million for hump..they’ll probably let him walk.

@Al_Iannazzone: BREAKING NEWS: Nets are close to acquiring Deron WIlliams from Utah, sources told The Record.
-Feburary 23, 10:54 am.

by Andy. on Mar 18, 2011 11:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

Zach Randolph is not better than Hump

Hump is a better rebounder, defender, and shot blocker. Randolph scores more points, but that’s only because he takes more shots – Hump is a more efficient scorer.

Not to mention that Randolph will already be 30 years old by the time next season begins. And so Randolph’s numbers will only get worse from now on.

Nets should definitely NOT sign Randolph. They should sign Hump, start him at the PF, and spend the money they save on better wing players.

by A.S. on Mar 18, 2011 1:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

what are you talking about

rebound rate hump-21.9% z-bo-20.5
True shooting hump-.559% z-bo-.543%
turnover rate hump-11.8% z-bo-8.9%
minutes hump 27 mpg z-bo 36.7 mpg
PER hump 17.85 z-bo-22.36
Wins Added hump 5.6 z-bo 12.7

it doesnt take that many stats to show that z-bo eclispes hump as a player by good stretch. sure hump makes a couple of blocks but as an overall player randolph is far superior. as you can see hump commits more turnovers in less time and how efficient can you be scoring 10 points a game versus 22?

not to mention humps terrible free throw shooting. like i said hump is a great energy guy on an elite team coming off the bench and a starter on bad teams with flaws.

and randolph plays under the rim his style will not worsen as rapid as you think. he doesnt live off athleticism. if the money is right they need randolph. a big time scorer in the paint something lopez seems to want no part of. and if hump comes at the right price he can back z-bo up.

but this will be mikki moore part 2 and if ump demands more than 6 mil a year he has got to go justlik if sasha wants more than 2 mil a year

The realist keepin it real amongst the surrealists

R.I.P. Big Homey Nate Dogg: "Cuz Iiiiiiiiii have ne-evv-ver met a giiiiiiiiiirrrrrrllllllllllllllllllll tha-at I loved in the whole wide wooorrrlllllddddddd"

by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Mar 18, 2011 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Did you even read the stats you posted???

“rebound rate hump-21.9% z-bo-20.5”
“True shooting hump-.559% z-bo-.543%”

In other words, this confirms exactly what I wrote. Hump is a better rebounder and a more efficient scorer.

As I said, Randolph takes more shots, so he scores more points. And those things lead to the differences in the metrics like PER. But it doesn’t make Randolph a better player.

Randolph’s offensive game duplicates Brook’s, while Hump’s offensive game compliment’s Brook. I’d much rather have Hump than Randolph, especially since you will have to pay a fortune for Randolph even though he is on the down-side of his career, while Hump can be signed for less and is still improving.

by A.S. on Mar 18, 2011 2:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

ZBo wants about 10 million.

Lets just keep Hump and build on him.
Hump wants to remain a Nets player.
Kim wants to stay in NYC.
Hump and Kim would both benefit by his re-signing for what BKing is willing to offer.
They would make a fortune in new endorsements, once Kris re-signs and then gets engaged.

BKing could just make his offer and wait for Kris to accept, even if other teams might offer a little more.

1. Kris isn’t going to get more starting PT elsewhere.
2. Kris isn’t going to get more rebounds elsewhere (thanks to Brook).
3. Kris isn’t going to get better passes (from DWill) elsewhere.
4. Kris isn’t going to be more appreciated by the fans elsewhere.
5. Kris’ relationship with Kim is more likely to succeed by staying in NYC.

Therefore Hump would be happier, and wealthier in the long term, by accepting a little less to stay with Nets.

by jerry25 on Mar 18, 2011 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Quite right

Although when you get agents in the room, they usually don’t like “accepting a little less”. Quote Hump a fair price today and sign him before the season ends.

by A.S. on Mar 18, 2011 2:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

several teams depending on who they let walk

what if denver lets jr smith and kenyon martin walk, re-sign nene and chandler, still have gallinari, felton, lawson, and birdman, who would you take hump to start over al harrington or afflalo to come off the bench?

the pacers could use that expiring money from ford, tinsley, foster, and dunleavy and bring hump in to pair up with hansborough

golden state, lacking big men, may throw money at him

the hornets may lose west and landry to other teams and throw money at kris

the wizards will likely let Yi and josh howard go and could toss money at hump to back up mcgee and blatche

hump is going to have money tossed at him. especially if there is an MLE still contenders like the spurs and thunder will toss money at him.

does hump value money over this team? would he bail for a contender? would he go to a team that would overpay him to start or come off the bench whether in a good or bad situation? who knows

welcome to mikki moore 2.0. i like hump but anything more than 6 mil annually is too much and another team will offer him some ridiculous 5 year 55 million deal based on this year alone.

if hump chases big money i dont blame him. i dont want him here eating up the cap and how do we know that he is only playing this good because of his contract year. before the last half of last season he showed noting the 5-6 years he was in the league but selfishness and team killing ways

i wouldnt mind replacing hump with randolph or with a combo of landry, big baby, hayes, evans, mcroberts, mbah a moute

The realist keepin it real amongst the surrealists

R.I.P. Big Homey Nate Dogg: "Cuz Iiiiiiiiii have ne-evv-ver met a giiiiiiiiiirrrrrrllllllllllllllllllll tha-at I loved in the whole wide wooorrrlllllddddddd"

by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Mar 18, 2011 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Denver has the bad contracts of Birdman and Harrington so I don't think they want to pay much for a large Hump contract. They are trying to keep Nene with their limited budget..

Most contenders already have a set PF and he wouldn’t get the PT he deserves.

Hump was on contenders before. He is much happier now.
And how could many contenders have the cap space to get Hump?

There probably won’t be a MLE.
Teams that are way over the cap should suffer with the new CBA.

Golden State with David Lee (his competition)? No chance.
The UNSTABLE Hornets?
To be a backup to Blatche in Washington?

You just make it more clear:
HUMP WILL BE A NJ NET. You can Hump on that!

by jerry25 on Mar 18, 2011 3:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

alright first of all if nene opts out and afflalo and chandler became UFA's then denver has a team payroll of 24 million

nene picks up 11 mil option and signs extension team payroll up to 33 mil

sign chandler for 9 mil team payroll up to 42 mil

sign afflalo for 6 mil team payroll up to 48 mil

hump for 7-10 mill a year. why cant it happen?

the OLD HUMP was on contenders before. new hump would be able to get PT on those teams

there may not be an MLE but good chance there is. this lockout wont focus on teams payrolls but owner profits and player max salaries

david lee can play center, biedrens and udoh have been underwhelming and golden state has a better core than us. think about how inflated humps stats would be in golden state

hornets are unstable but they arent stupid. if they lost landry and west they would have plenty of money to throw at hump. plus CP3 is still down there.

the wshington thing is unrealistic but its a scenario if hump was chasing money.

dont rule out indy: hump and hansborough can be a deadly PF combo

and teams like the spurs and thunder can still use another big dirty work guy. also if the grizzlis list randolph what if hump went to memphis.

If you think all nice guys put loyalty over money and opportunity then yu are crazy. Have you not seen what has transpired in the league since last summer?

The realist keepin it real amongst the surrealists

R.I.P. Big Homey Nate Dogg: "Cuz Iiiiiiiiii have ne-evv-ver met a giiiiiiiiiirrrrrrllllllllllllllllllll tha-at I loved in the whole wide wooorrrlllllddddddd"

by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Mar 18, 2011 7:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not sure if we can sign him now, if we are over the cap. Maybe King can talk now, and sign late?

I wonder what the first date is, that we could sign him?

I hope in worst case that it can get done before free agency, and even before the draft.
If it happens before July 1, there wouldn’t be any formal offers to compete with.

Who is Hump’s agent anyway? What other players does he represent.

by jerry25 on Mar 18, 2011 2:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Don't the Nets have his Bird rights?

They can go over the cap to resign a player if they have Bird rights, I believe.

Surely the reason they aren’t doing so is the expiring CBA…

by A.S. on Mar 18, 2011 4:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

no humps limited minutes allows his stats to be higher

per 48 humphries 17.2 ppg, .531 fg%, .657 FT%, 17.8 rpg, 1.88 bpg, 2.3 TO, .79 AST/TO, 29.26 efficency rating

per 48 randolph 26.4 ppg, .494 fg%, .189 3pt%, .759 FT%, 16.5 rpg, .45 bpg, 2.6 TO, .94 AST/TO, 31.87 efficiency rating

double doubles- humphries 24 randolph 47

i’ll take 26 and 17 at the right price(ie less than 11 million a year). if hump wants more than 6 mil a year he has to go. randolph has been playing like this for years now. hump has been doin it for almost 1 year now.

if we could get both i would be happy but z-bo at market value price>>>>>> hump at above market value price

The realist keepin it real amongst the surrealists

R.I.P. Big Homey Nate Dogg: "Cuz Iiiiiiiiii have ne-evv-ver met a giiiiiiiiiirrrrrrllllllllllllllllllll tha-at I loved in the whole wide wooorrrlllllddddddd"

by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Mar 18, 2011 2:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

We can probably get both Hump and AK47 for about what Z-bo wants.

But I don’t mind using the fear of signing Z-bo to get Hump to agree sooner.

by jerry25 on Mar 18, 2011 2:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

This is completely wrong

Have you even watched the last 6 games?

As we’ve seen over the last 6 games, if you give Hump 30+ minutes, he will continue to produce big numbers on a per minute basis, no different than when he was sharing time with Favors.

I will take better rebounding, more efficient scoring, more blocks, better defense, 4 years younger, AND several million dollars cheaper EVERY DAY OF THE WEEK.

by A.S. on Mar 18, 2011 4:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah 6 games and i just brought out stats for the year

and z-bo has been doing this for at least two years. i’m done with this landslide victory

The realist keepin it real amongst the surrealists

R.I.P. Big Homey Nate Dogg: "Cuz Iiiiiiiiii have ne-evv-ver met a giiiiiiiiiirrrrrrllllllllllllllllllll tha-at I loved in the whole wide wooorrrlllllddddddd"

by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Mar 18, 2011 7:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Tonight would be a good win because

The Bucks completely own us for some reason, we just can’t hang with them and Bogut always abuses us, injuries or not he will score at least thirty on the Nets.

by Nets40 on Mar 18, 2011 11:39 AM EDT reply actions  

We can get this

We should win this game.
We were stopped winning by Bulls already, so we need to return it.
Bucks have great defence team in the league, but they have not good offence.
Lopez have to focus on Bogut.

by DKang on Mar 18, 2011 11:46 AM EDT reply actions  

This is a MUST WIN game.

Yeah Bucks are in the way, but We need to get back on a Winning Streak.

MUST WIN.

Lopez needs to DUNK on everyone in his way. No more of the Soft Stuff.

Official Member of the "DIDN'T WANT TO TRADE DERRICK FAVORS, BUT HAPPY WE GOT D. WILLIAMS" Movement

by SIC One on Mar 18, 2011 11:48 AM EDT reply actions  

+1

@Al_Iannazzone: BREAKING NEWS: Nets are close to acquiring Deron WIlliams from Utah, sources told The Record.
-Feburary 23, 10:54 am.

by Andy. on Mar 18, 2011 11:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

Kyrie Irving returning today! Guess I’m watching that game.

@Al_Iannazzone: BREAKING NEWS: Nets are close to acquiring Deron WIlliams from Utah, sources told The Record.
-Feburary 23, 10:54 am.

by Andy. on Mar 18, 2011 11:50 AM EDT reply actions  

If Nolan Smith was

6’6 he would be a lottery pick IMO he’s a good B-Ball player Nets should take the chance, or if Kemba Walker falls.

"I think I’m the best point guard in the league. No reason. I just think I’m the best.’’-Deron Williams.

by JJ25 on Mar 18, 2011 11:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

know if you recall BK

saying they will look in at the draft prospects to fill in the 2 guard.

"I think I’m the best point guard in the league. No reason. I just think I’m the best.’’-Deron Williams.

by JJ25 on Mar 18, 2011 11:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

no he said wing men

and bigs.

He made no mention, specifically, about a 2 guard.

Think Kenneth Faried and Kyle Singler, although both will likely go higher.

by Net Income on Mar 18, 2011 12:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Williams Buford

and JeJuan Johnson maybe.

"I think I’m the best point guard in the league. No reason. I just think I’m the best.’’-Deron Williams.

by JJ25 on Mar 18, 2011 1:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Unless someone big time falls to us.

"We're not there yet, but we're going somewhere," Johnson said. "And we're going to Brooklyn. We're not going to contract. We're going to Brooklyn."

by Atronic on Mar 18, 2011 1:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Kemba?

"I think I’m the best point guard in the league. No reason. I just think I’m the best.’’-Deron Williams.

by JJ25 on Mar 18, 2011 1:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

What I'm thinking, it will also be interesting if Jimmer falls do the Nets like him or would they take him as trade bait.

"We're not there yet, but we're going somewhere," Johnson said. "And we're going to Brooklyn. We're not going to contract. We're going to Brooklyn."

by Atronic on Mar 18, 2011 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Jimmer Fredette
PG, BYU, senior, 6-2, 195 pounds – Scout’s take: "Most dynamic scorer in college. Has the ultimate green light and is in range after crossing half court. … Comparisons to Stephen Curry are fairly accurate. He can play the point guard position. He can run the pick and roll. On the next level when you put him in pick and rolls, do you go to him to take the ball out of his hands or let him shoot? … He’s pretty crafty like Steve Nash. He’s more stocky, taller and stronger than Nash and Curry. He’s not as short as a lot of people think." NBA comparison: Stephen Curry, Mark Price.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;ylt=Agh5sxP6a2bIg7Z8rYBiURK8vLYF?slug=mc-nbaprospects_to_watch_in_ncaa_tournament_031711

I miss the days when America was only morally bankrupt...

by Chakroot on Mar 18, 2011 1:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Rather have Marshon Brooks.

"I think I’m the best point guard in the league. No reason. I just think I’m the best.’’-Deron Williams.

by JJ25 on Mar 18, 2011 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

He's taller than Nash and Curry? Thought they were 6'3

But he is more stocky than them both and stronger will help him out in the pro’s. I would take him then turn Uzoh into a backup do everything combo guard that can guard bigger guards like Rose and trade Farmar save money front load Chandler and Nene.

"We're not there yet, but we're going somewhere," Johnson said. "And we're going to Brooklyn. We're not going to contract. We're going to Brooklyn."

by Atronic on Mar 18, 2011 2:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not mentioned is that Fredette only commits about 1 foul per game...

and that often is from a “charge” call.

That is, the guy doesn’t even try to play any defense.
That is why there is no D in Jimmer Fredette.

by jerry25 on Mar 18, 2011 5:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

FreDette

The Nets have "D-Will" to win!!!

by BrooksBridges11 on Mar 18, 2011 6:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

its amazing how much backlash this team is getting from ONE LOSS

to a highly ranked team with the probable-MVP running the show…

when there are arguments about CDR + Twill > anyone + travis outlaw, its obvious how spoiled we became by the win streak.

I miss the days when America was only morally bankrupt...

by Chakroot on Mar 18, 2011 12:51 PM EDT reply actions  

yes

and the team shot horribly. If Deron made half his shots it would have been a different game. We can start a new streak tonight.

by Rodney Buford on Mar 18, 2011 1:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

What is most important is to extend Deron before the start of next season.

Deron has to blame himself for the loss. That should help prove to him that we are good enough to compete with the best team in the East, with the present team (if he was healthy), not to mention when we make upgrades.

by jerry25 on Mar 18, 2011 3:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

all this stuff

about how worthless the Lakers and Rockets picks are…

Over the past two years, there have been three wingmen taken either in the second round who are solid rotation players: Budinger, Jerebko and Fields.

I would take any of them…happily…and all fit into King’s description of the kind of player you can find at the end of the first/beginning of the second: third or fourth year college players (or similarly experienced Euros) who can step into the rotation.

by Net Income on Mar 18, 2011 12:54 PM EDT reply actions  

I think Singler could be…

but he wont be available with the laker pick IMO

@Al_Iannazzone: BREAKING NEWS: Nets are close to acquiring Deron WIlliams from Utah, sources told The Record.
-Feburary 23, 10:54 am.

by Andy. on Mar 18, 2011 1:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Draft Express

has Faried going at #27 and Singler at #36.

by Net Income on Mar 18, 2011 1:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

sweet if we could get both.

@Al_Iannazzone: BREAKING NEWS: Nets are close to acquiring Deron WIlliams from Utah, sources told The Record.
-Feburary 23, 10:54 am.

by Andy. on Mar 18, 2011 1:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think we will move up if we have to tho buy a second rounder or use our own

"We're not there yet, but we're going somewhere," Johnson said. "And we're going to Brooklyn. We're not going to contract. We're going to Brooklyn."

by Atronic on Mar 18, 2011 1:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Faried killed my Cards yesterday with the blocked shot at the end of the game.

He had 17 rebounds in that game. Rick Pitino prasised him highly after the game was over. He compared Faried’s rebounding skills to that of Dennis Rodman.

"That's life...I tell ya, I can't deny it
I thought of quitting baby...But my heart just ain't gonna buy it"

by aunt-B on Mar 18, 2011 1:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

that block

will make it impossible for us to get him with the Laker pick. It’s a lose-lose!

by calling all toasters on Mar 18, 2011 1:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

lets hope not

@Al_Iannazzone: BREAKING NEWS: Nets are close to acquiring Deron WIlliams from Utah, sources told The Record.
-Feburary 23, 10:54 am.

by Andy. on Mar 18, 2011 1:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well if he's taken means someone else falls and vice versa heard some foreign kid might go 2 or 3

"We're not there yet, but we're going somewhere," Johnson said. "And we're going to Brooklyn. We're not going to contract. We're going to Brooklyn."

by Atronic on Mar 18, 2011 2:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Didnt Pitino Give TWill high praise too?

Official Member of the "DIDN'T WANT TO TRADE DERRICK FAVORS, BUT HAPPY WE GOT D. WILLIAMS" Movement

by SIC One on Mar 18, 2011 2:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

But what are the chances of getting lucky and picking one of those type of rotation players?

Relatively low.

What you didn’t show are how many non-lottery wings taken in the past 2 years who are NOT rotation players — the vast majority of them.

by A.S. on Mar 18, 2011 1:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Why is

Marshoon Brooks going in the second round.

"I think I’m the best point guard in the league. No reason. I just think I’m the best.’’-Deron Williams.

by JJ25 on Mar 18, 2011 1:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

because he is a less efficient gilbert arenas

i mean providence was downright terrible this year. he got his but that was it. he’s a senior for a reason and it isnt to get his education. before these outburts how many people knew him. i didnt even know him.

i knew sharaud curry and efejuku who were much better than him but brooks was nothing until late last year

The realist keepin it real amongst the surrealists

R.I.P. Big Homey Nate Dogg: "Cuz Iiiiiiiiii have ne-evv-ver met a giiiiiiiiiirrrrrrllllllllllllllllllll tha-at I loved in the whole wide wooorrrlllllddddddd"

by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Mar 18, 2011 1:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

He looked solid vs. Notre Dame

52 points and they still lose, if he was in a better school he would be more known.

"I think I’m the best point guard in the league. No reason. I just think I’m the best.’’-Deron Williams.

by JJ25 on Mar 18, 2011 1:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

again thats what the normal fan sees

the scouts see him not cracking the rotation on decent providence teams and having minimal impact until all the talent leaves and he becomes the college kevin love of shooting guards(big stats no wins)

remember how good adam morrison looked and where is he now. jj reddick and how long it took him to mold. brooks doesnt have any of the college credentials they do. basically he’s a risk that shouldnt be taken until all the proven talent is off the draft board

The realist keepin it real amongst the surrealists

R.I.P. Big Homey Nate Dogg: "Cuz Iiiiiiiiii have ne-evv-ver met a giiiiiiiiiirrrrrrllllllllllllllllllll tha-at I loved in the whole wide wooorrrlllllddddddd"

by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Mar 18, 2011 3:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

The best part of today is if the mets can release luis Castillo and get rid of his pathetic self we can one day release Travis outlaw and Johan petro
So believe nets fans!!!!
Our day will come just like today is the mets fans day

Melo Goes to NYK...who cares..Nets got DWill
Welcome D-Will..Take Care Favors
Nets Fans:Let the Haters Hate

Best Quote Ever by a Net fans:
"Howard and Williams, with a well constructed cast of roleplayers(we need a perimeter scorer to help), can take down the Miami Heat.
Win now mode baby. I’m stoked."
-MrDollarBills

by Wall2KingJames on Mar 18, 2011 1:09 PM EDT reply actions  

How old is Lui like 38?

"I think I’m the best point guard in the league. No reason. I just think I’m the best.’’-Deron Williams.

by JJ25 on Mar 18, 2011 1:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

haha you are mets fans?

i have no sympathy for any nl east teams
phillies – hate those frontrunners
mets – never liked em, always seemed like the little brother trying to tag along, no identity
marlins – owned by celebrities, salary dump every good team they assemble
braves – team i dislike the least, bobby cox very funny, always liked chipper
nationals – i want the expos back, bring back pedro, vlad, cliff floyd, moises alou, marquis grissom, larry walker, miguel batista, jose vidro

The realist keepin it real amongst the surrealists

R.I.P. Big Homey Nate Dogg: "Cuz Iiiiiiiiii have ne-evv-ver met a giiiiiiiiiirrrrrrllllllllllllllllllll tha-at I loved in the whole wide wooorrrlllllddddddd"

by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Mar 18, 2011 1:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

+1

@Al_Iannazzone: BREAKING NEWS: Nets are close to acquiring Deron WIlliams from Utah, sources told The Record.
-Feburary 23, 10:54 am.

by Andy. on Mar 18, 2011 1:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

I know Hump has got to be bet up a bit banging all night yesterday

"We're not there yet, but we're going somewhere," Johnson said. "And we're going to Brooklyn. We're not going to contract. We're going to Brooklyn."

by Atronic on Mar 18, 2011 1:25 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

lol

@Al_Iannazzone: BREAKING NEWS: Nets are close to acquiring Deron WIlliams from Utah, sources told The Record.
-Feburary 23, 10:54 am.

by Andy. on Mar 18, 2011 1:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

might there be two meanings to this statement?

I miss the days when America was only morally bankrupt...

by Chakroot on Mar 18, 2011 1:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

HAHAHA quite possibly

"We're not there yet, but we're going somewhere," Johnson said. "And we're going to Brooklyn. We're not going to contract. We're going to Brooklyn."

by Atronic on Mar 18, 2011 1:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

*Beat

"We're not there yet, but we're going somewhere," Johnson said. "And we're going to Brooklyn. We're not going to contract. We're going to Brooklyn."

by Atronic on Mar 18, 2011 1:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

James should get more touches in the offense

He has a good post game and mid range jumper, need to let him spread his wings a bit.

"We're not there yet, but we're going somewhere," Johnson said. "And we're going to Brooklyn. We're not going to contract. We're going to Brooklyn."

by Atronic on Mar 18, 2011 1:30 PM EDT reply actions  

avery keeps saying

that he doesn’t need to run a lot of plays for him, because his high energy gets him the ball

I miss the days when America was only morally bankrupt...

by Chakroot on Mar 18, 2011 1:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

i dont even understand why we run plays

d-will – can create for himself or others
morrow- spot up shooter
sasha – inefficient chucker
james – hustle man dirty work guy
hump – hustle man filthy work guy
lopez – loves the 20 foot jumper as much as snow white, tinkerbell, cinderella, etc

The realist keepin it real amongst the surrealists

R.I.P. Big Homey Nate Dogg: "Cuz Iiiiiiiiii have ne-evv-ver met a giiiiiiiiiirrrrrrllllllllllllllllllll tha-at I loved in the whole wide wooorrrlllllddddddd"

by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Mar 18, 2011 3:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

After watching the game last night it is so obvious

We really need a SG or SF or a few that can get to the rack.

by nwkiddnj on Mar 18, 2011 2:07 PM EDT reply actions  

agreed

@Al_Iannazzone: BREAKING NEWS: Nets are close to acquiring Deron WIlliams from Utah, sources told The Record.
-Feburary 23, 10:54 am.

by Andy. on Mar 18, 2011 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

But we need to be patient and make only smart moves that maintain flexibility.

A Rudy Gay good become available, if Memphis is in even worse financial shape than believe.

by jerry25 on Mar 18, 2011 2:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

That is my point.

I’d rather wait for the “star” player that Proky has promised, than make rash decision for a good, but not great player, who ties us up for years.

I am confident that Proky/King won’t do as you suggest.

King said there are lots of scoring Wings that you can get from the draft.

by jerry25 on Mar 18, 2011 2:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm hoping we do good in the draft.

the draft is the most important IMO because we can’t keep over paying we now have a superstar and Lopez are going to demand money and outlaw demanding money for a while. We need guys who perform at a level that proves they deserve more than what they are getting paid (rookie contracts)

by nwkiddnj on Mar 18, 2011 2:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

The Bucks Team Report lists Bogut as "day-to-day" (due to migraine). I doubt we would be so lucky to have Bogut's migraine continue to keep him out of lineup.

Medical Watch:

• C Andrew Bogut (migraine) didn’t play against the Magic on Wednesday night in Milwaukee. He is listed as day-to-day.

• F Ersan Ilyasova(notes) (concussion) sat out his 10th straight game Wednesday night against the Magic. Bucks officials said there isn’t any timetable for Ilyasova’s return.

• F Drew Gooden(notes) (plantar fasciitis and bruised heel) is working out with the team and hopes to play in just over a week.

• G Michael Redd(notes) (knee surgery in March 2010) has rejoined the team but said he doesn’t expect to play until later this month.

Rotation:

Starters:

• Point guard Brandon Jennings

• Shooting guard John Salmons

• Small forward Carlos Delfino(notes)

• Power forward Luc Mbah a Moute

• Center Larry Sanders

Bench:

• Center Jon Brockman

• Forward Corey Maggette(notes)

• Guard Keyon Dooling

• Guard Earl Boykins(notes)

• Center Earl Barren

=====

Fortunately Illyasova is out, because as I recall he killed us the last time Bogut was out.
I don’t recall who was their center when Bogut didn’t play last time?

It doesn’t list CDR as “day to day”, but then if he is out of the rotation, since he isn’t listed here, so hopefully he won’t play.

by jerry25 on Mar 18, 2011 2:29 PM EDT reply actions  

We better win tonight.

won’t be able to watch will be at a hiphop gathering hopefully meet some dope producers. Looks liken game we are suppose to win.

by nwkiddnj on Mar 18, 2011 2:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

ilyasova was the center when the bucks destroyed us

and i believe cd-r is injured or just out the rotation because scott skiles would rather have salmons, delfino, and maggette chuck up shots

hump can handle mbah-a-moute but larry sanders is an athletic big like jj hickson who has given lopez problems this season.

there is no reason for either team to score more than 100 point tonights. the bucks are one of the few teams worse offensively than us. problem is they have an elite pace-adjusted defense while the nets have a below-average defense

The realist keepin it real amongst the surrealists

R.I.P. Big Homey Nate Dogg: "Cuz Iiiiiiiiii have ne-evv-ver met a giiiiiiiiiirrrrrrllllllllllllllllllll tha-at I loved in the whole wide wooorrrlllllddddddd"

by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Mar 18, 2011 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Comments For This Post Are Closed


User Tools

NetsDaily brings together up-to-the-minute news, analysis and opinion regarding the Brooklyn Nets in a comprehensive manner. Join the community and take part in the discussion.

FanPosts

Community blog posts and discussion.

Recent FanPosts

2002-05-02-front-nets_small
Panel discussion mentioning Barclays Center
Small
so who else is worried about deron?
Ny_williams_nets_288v_small
What Really Grinds My Gears
Small
Barclays Center Court
Small
Sly headed to Brooklyn?
Small
S.A.S adding fuel to the not so subtle rumor mill...
Deronnetsedit_small
Free Agency Predictions
Small
My First ND post
Photo_small
Calling all season ticket holders!
Nike-basketball-hyper-elite-usa-deron-williams-04_small
I just purchased Season Tickets.. and my heart hurts ??

+ New FanPost All FanPosts >


Managers

Jay-nets_100_small NetsDaily