Power Rankings: Losses Don't Move Nets Much
by Net Income on Feb 7, 2011 2:32 PM EST
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Print"Muddling along" might be a good way to describe the Nets right now. They never get bad enough to make you think all is lost, but never get good enough to give you hope. For every win over the Jazz or Nuggets, there are two losses to the Pacers.
Seems the power ranking pundits are of the same mind. John Schuhmann notes the positives in keeping them at #25: "Anthony Morrow, shooting 16-for-27 from 3-point range over the last seven games, seems to have turned himself into Ray Allen. Devin Harris, averaging 12.2 assists over the last five, is acting like Rajon Rondo." But alas, the Nets are not the Celtics.
Marc Stein, who actually moved the Nets up to #26, also likes Harris: Have to point out -- after years of hassling Devin Harris about his QB-ing -- that he's posted games with 16, 18 and 13 dimes in his past five outings.
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If we had 3 Humps
we’d be the Celtics
"A little boy went out to play. When he opened his door, he saw the world. As he passed through the doorway, he caused a reflection. Evil was born. Evil was born, and followed the boy."
Lol, or a camel!
"That's life...I tell ya, I can't deny it
I thought of quitting baby...But my heart just ain't gonna buy it"
by aunt-B on Feb 7, 2011 2:59 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Speaking of humps...the one we can't seem to get over...Melo!
Prediction: Denver will call Carmelo Anthony’s bluff and will not trade him unless Knicks significantly up grade their measly offer or some other team gets involved. Nets ? Carmelo will risk millions or resign with Denver. Denver might be willing to lose him for nothing, just like the Nets were willing to trade the ranch for Melo. Carmelo and Co. will then have to put up or shut up. Denver might end up having their cake and eating it to !
"That's life...I tell ya, I can't deny it
I thought of quitting baby...But my heart just ain't gonna buy it"
If I am Denver
I would be sending him to the d-league, playing him 48mpg and then trade him to the Cavs
you stole this from
bill simmons mailbag. unless you were the fan who suggested this to bill
imagine something extremely witty here
that camel is well-endowed
look at that smug look on his face.
The Nets
are going to finish with the fifth or sixth worst record. So start looking at players that will pick either 8th or 9th.
wtf u talking bout lol, dont curse the nets we will get top 5 pick, hopfully 1st or 3rd overall!
Kyrie Irving, Terrence Jones, Harrison Barnes.
We have to pick one out of these three!!! Its a MUST!!
Never give up on something, you can't go on a day without thinking bout it....
by Kingsley King Lin on Feb 7, 2011 3:37 PM EST up reply actions
just life as a net fan
we’ll fall as far as possible.
If GS finishes outside of the lottery, then we'll gt their 1st rounder this year
That could potentially be Harrison Barnes territory for us. I def like Barnes’ game just not a top 10 pick in my estimation.
No we don't. That pick is in 2012.
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Nope. 1-7 protected 2012 I think.
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I'm not sure
Real GM says:
2012 first round draft pick from Golden State
Golden State’s own 2012 1st round pick to New Jersey (top 7 protected in the 2012 Draft, top 7 protected in 2013, and top 6 protected in the 2014 Draft)
and Hoopsworld says:
New Jersey Nets: Receives Golden State’s 2011 first-round pick (lottery protected in 2011, top 11 protected in 2012, top 10 protected in 2013.
Also, insidehoops says:
The first round selection the Nets obtained from Golden State will either be lottery protected 1-14 in 2011, lottery protected 1-11 in 2012 or lottery protected 1-10 in 2013.
I know a lot of people here keep saying top 7 protected, but I don’t know which one is really is. Because the Warriors are likely a lottery team in 2013
I know it is 2012 for sure and of all of those, realGM updates the most frequently and is the most accurate from what I have seen.
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From NetsDaily:
In 2012, the Nets have their own first round pick; the Rockets’ first round pick (lottery-protected), acquired in the Terrence Williams trade; the Warriors’ first round pick (protected 1 through 7), acquired in the Marcus Williams trade; plus their own second round pick and the Heat’s second round pick (unprotected), acquired along with Chris Quinn. Considering the improvements made by the Heat in the off-season, that pick is likely to be among the least valuable.
http://www.netsdaily.com/2010/12/14/1877187/nets-trade-assets-grow-with-trade
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i highly doubt the warriors make the playoffs this year
which is the only way they make the playoffs either. it’d be better for them to do just enough to barely miss the playoffs and then get a low lottery pick and then end up repeating the season all over again next year. the pick positioning is determined on regular season finish correct? which means the nets could use GS 2012 around 10 and hope it gets bumped up to the top 5 in the lottery
The realist keepin it real amongst the surrealists
by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Feb 7, 2011 8:20 PM EST up reply actions
We only get the Warriors pick if they are the eighth worst pick or above next year.
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Actually, it's 8-30.
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most likely
but will they be 1-7?
What Nets officials will tell you when you complain about trading picks is, “hey it’s not we gave up great players for those extra picks. We got the Warriors pick for Marcus Williams, the Lakers and Rocket picks for Terrence Williams.”
The Nets also have another second round pick in 2012, from the Heat, part of the Chris Quinn deal.
that heat pick will be useless since it will be in the bottom five of the second round
the only players of significance i can think of going that low since 99 is ginobili and erden(the celtics center)
The realist keepin it real amongst the surrealists
by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Feb 8, 2011 12:56 PM EST up reply actions
gs pick & barnes
i thought it was top 7 protected in 2011 and top 6 protected in 2012
more importantly though, barnes is not coming out after his freshman year, in an unpredictable market (cba), to be a low first rounder. if he comes out it will be because he is projected top 5… which at the moment he probably is not.
it was 2011
but we deferred the pick for fewer protections or something of the sort.
it was originally 2011, with lottery protection
in return for moving it back a year, the Nets got reduced protection and 2011 pick, which went to the Lakers in the TWill trade.
Do we want another Williams? :)
If we have a chance to grab Irving then take him and trade Harris for another lottery pick or a player that fills our needs (SG & SF).
"There's no way, with hindsight, I would've ever called up Larry, called up Magic and said, 'Hey, look, let's get together and play on one team,'"
Official Member of the "DO NOT TRADE DERRICK FAVORS" Movement
Would you give a lottery pick for Harris?
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Really? If you were a team in the same position as us, you would trade our pick this year for Devin Harris?
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not for a top 5
but depending on the team and the system, then yes, i could envision that.
however, i don’t think i’d trade harris for a low lottery pick if i were billy king
derrick williams is not that good, he cant create for himself even in the highlites of him
he scores all on assists, we need tjones or irv!ing
Never give up on something, you can't go on a day without thinking bout it....
by Kingsley King Lin on Feb 7, 2011 4:17 PM EST up reply actions
I don't see him creating for himself but ....
Does he play the 4 ?
by Zartan on Feb 7, 2011 5:29 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I don't think I've seen Arizona on TV all season
so I don’t know anything about Derrick Williams.
Hopefully when tournament season rolls around I’ll get a view of Derrick Williams, but Barnes has had a few really good games lately. Averaging 22 and 7 in his last 3, 55 % shooting.
SIDENOTE TO FANS: Withhold all opinion and expectation of a college player until you’ve seen him play at least twice. Youtube mixes and NBAdraft.net would have you believe that Favors was a young KG (ridiculous) and that Jared Sullinger plays like Elton Brand (he doesn’t). Watch for yourself.
I've seen T.Jones, Barnes, Williams, Perry Jones, and Fredette several times a piece.
I do not think that Williams will be a SF in the NBA.
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Whoever drafts him will be drafting him as a 3/SF most likely - I've seen him play a few times too, def more of a SF
This assessment pretty much sums up what I think about him, give it a read.
I've read it before. I like him, but I really don't see the SF thing.
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wow alot of these knicks headlines
Look similar to the nets headlines… do the knicks start to have chemistry issues ….
SO MUCH FOR GOING AFTER HIS NECK!
by Mike28Live on Feb 7, 2011 3:31 PM EST via mobile reply actions
devin
Getting assists doesn’t make you a great pg. Finding what player has a mismatch, getting the ball to that player and knowing when to score so your team wins makes you great. The Nets wouldn’t bbe getting blown out in the 1st and 3rd Q if Devin knew how to do this
by DJ HeavyDuty on Feb 7, 2011 3:32 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Yeah, clearly Devin is what's wrong with this team (sarcasm)
How can they’re be so many Devin haters around here? He’s been one of the few bright spots this team has had the past 2 years. Now I’m not saying there isn’t any scenario where we wouldn’t trade him. He is definitely not “untouchable”, but if half the people around here had their way we’d be shipping him off for whatever luke-warm/mediocre trade offer comes our way first.
Come on people. It might be rough rooting for this team the past 2 years, but let’s not take it out on Devin (and Brook for that matter). He doesn’t deserve it…
by Jon Bubs on Feb 7, 2011 3:39 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
lol
Luke ridenhour and Rubio for Devin and 2012 draft pick
by DJ HeavyDuty on Feb 7, 2011 3:57 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Btw the third quarter is usually the quarter that reserves/bench players see the most time
So I don’t think Devin is the main culprit of our lackluster 3rd quarters..
NBADraft.net has us landing Terrence Jones in their latest mock draft, I like...
I’m still partial to Derrick Williams, but Terrence Jones is pretty much right there with him..
COREY BREWER?
Is he any better than outlaw?
SO MUCH FOR GOING AFTER HIS NECK!
by Mike28Live on Feb 7, 2011 3:53 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
me too
DWilliams is ready to play SF in the NBA and has a good attitude
by DJ HeavyDuty on Feb 7, 2011 3:58 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
He's plays a SF/PF mix at Zona
but once he hits the NBA he’ll be playing SF. He’ll be undersized for a NBA PF. He shoots about 68% from 3 point. He’s got ball handling, shooting, and great rebounding for 6’8" guy. He could easily start at SF for our team right now lol..
the thing that scares me about Terence Jones
is the form on his shot. he brings the ball across his body to shoot.
this happens w/ a lot of lefties (stevie thompson of syracuse comes to mind) because most people are ‘right eye dominant’ (even lefties). whichever eye is dominant, is the eye that a shoot brings the ball over. being right eye dominant for a left means they bring the ball across their body, over their right eye in order to shoot. (btw, you hardly ever see a righty who is left eye dominant).
looks like t jones is a lefty who is right eye dominant. very scary.
imagine something extremely witty here
Interesting point
Need to pay attention to that.
I was impressed by his ball handling skills the other nite against UF, got guard like skills for a big man. He definitely needs to work on being able to go to his right.
Nets 2011- looking forward to the lottery- again
Yeah. I haven't really paid attention to that either.
All i know is that if he can just improve his J, the association better watch out.
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Will Nets win a game this month?
The power ranking for the Nets will likely get worse. If you look at the remaining schedule this month, the only game I think the Nets might win is against Charlotte on 2/11.
NYK, Houston and Phoenix can all be had if the Nets are on too.
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Phoenix always ha the potential though to blowout a bad team
and since JKidd left we don’t seem to know how to work against D’antoni’s 15 seconds-or-less offense.
I’m not optimistic.
If the Nets are on, I think they are beatable.
That hardly ever happens though so I’m not holding my breath.
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If we beat the Knicks in our 3 remaining games w/ them, and lose the rest of our games this season
and we secure a top 2 pick, would you be down?
I myself ,
Holding out for a top pick. i already let go of this season. Tired of it being done early.
Yeah this season is finished.
I’m all for us getting in the top 4 or 5 picks for this summer. If we could finish 2nd to last that’ll guarantee us a top 5 pick…
+1111
Yes, Jon im all for it lets tank this, but we must make sure irving or tjones come out though.
Never give up on something, you can't go on a day without thinking bout it....
by Kingsley King Lin on Feb 7, 2011 4:22 PM EST up reply actions
There are a few other guys other than those 2 that would help our team a lot too.
But we need to top5 pick this summer, no way’s around that..
No. I want a decent home record.
If you could promise me a top 2 pick, I would be down though, but you can’t so I’m not.
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If we have 2nd worse record in the league we would be guarenteed at least a top 4 pick (I think)
how bout then?
sorry, its guarenteed top 5 with 2nd worst record
right now at 5th worst record we’re guarenteed a top 9 pick :-/
Yeah.
We can get any of
1,2,3,6,7,8,9
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Maybe.
Top 5 gets us one of Irving, T.Jones, P.Jones, Barnes D.Will.
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I'm sorry but I don't see Barnes going in top 5 at all
nor would I want us drafting him with our own 1st rounder, maybe GS’s pick if it happens, but DEF not our own..
Barnes has finally come on lately.
He has been destroying the NCAA and has been showing why everyone thought he was so great.
He just seems like a late bloomer. I guarantee he’ll go Top 5 because of his former status and how he’ll make some serious noise in the ACC and NCAA tournaments.
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Barnes has had 3 real strong games in a row, Sullinger's been doing it all year
Barnes is still a ways off from solidifying himself as a lottery pick
Yeah, but he
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Will have a good tournament showing and he is more of a lottery pick than most projected to go there.
He is also not a PF.
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If he continues putting up 26 points a game and 10 boards it will be tough to argue that
but neither you nor I can tell the future. Also I would love to have a front court of Sullinger Favors and Brook. It really just depends how things will play out till the draft, and obv the better draft position we have, that will help us pick the player that we really want/need the most.
basically what I'm saying is
which should be happy as fans if we can get D Williams, K Irving, T Jones, J Sullinger, or even P Jones. All 5 of these guys will be huge contributors, and whichever one we get will go a long ways in determining what direction Billy will take the team.
He's a lottery pick right now. Even with his early struggles, are you telling me he is not a top 14 prospect?
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Yes that's exactly what I'm saying
He may not even come out this year. If he keeps playing like he has been the past 3 games then, yes, he would be a lottery pick. I can’t declare him a lottery pick just cuz of the last 3 games the guy has played.
Right now I would draft Branden Knight over Barnes
and Brandon Knight is barely a lottery pick at the moment. Barnes isn’t. Doesn’t mean he won’t be come June/July, it just means he’s got improving to do before the draft..
I'm just saying that, with Barnes' enormous potential, I don't see 14 guys getting picked before him.
Hence: he is a lottery pick.
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You don't draft on hype
He IS playing much better ball now though. If he keeps it up he’ll find himself somewhere in the top 10, but if he doesn’t, then he won’t. Its too early for me to tell if he’s going to be Michael Jordan or Sam Bowie or somewhere in between. Wednesday against Duke should be a nice measuring stick though.
It's not on hype.
This draft class is weak.
If he makes it out of the lottery, I’ll be shocked.
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Here's an example.
The top 14 in NBADraft’s mock draft are:
1. Sullinger
2. Derrick Williams
3. Perry Jones
4. Kyrie Irving
5. Enes Kanter
6. Terrence Jones
7. Donatas Motiejunas
8. Kahwi Leonard
9. Trey Thompkins
10. Tyler Honeycutt
11. Jonas Valanciunas
12. Alec Burks
13. Jimmer Fredette
14. Jan Vesely
I can’t see a late lottery pick going to someone “safe” like Thompkins or Fredette or Kahwi Leonard over Barnes even at this point.
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Yeah. It would really suck if the Nets went on a winning streak with the playoffs out of reach.
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most of those guys are west coast(media bias) so you dont have a clue
1. ohio state
2. arizona
3. baylor
4. duke
5. sposed to be UK but banned
6. UK
7. international
8. SDSU
9. ?? but i feel a big 12 school like Mizzou or OSU
10. UCLA
11. international
12. ???
13. BYU
14. ????
most of these guys unless you go out of your way to watch them you wont see until march which will only give you about 5-10 games to judge them(conference tourny/ncaa tourny) out of 30 total games
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by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Feb 8, 2011 1:05 PM EST up reply actions
If the draft we're today
I’d see him going somewhere mid to late 1st round, and I wouldn’t be too surprised if a team took a chance on him earlier (10-14). But he hasn’t lived up to his hype yet. Beginning of the year he was being talked about as a top 5 pick. Clearly he hasn’t backed that up w/ his play, yet.
Barnes is 6'9 and can shoot
has a great work ethic, he may not be a star due to his lack of elite athleticism but he looks like he will be a good NBA player.
Sullingers team in winning.I say one way or another, we get a guy who has a winning team in college, Sullinger being the ideal match.
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That's why Evan Turner would have been such a great pick?
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I wouldn't declare Turner a bust yet
the guy’s playing behind Iggy and few other good young guards on that team. Just like I don’t think anybody on here should declare Favors a bust.
I was just pointing out that it is silly to pick guys because they are at a good college.
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The nets
need to draft the BPA when they pick regarldess of posisiton. If it’s a PF so be it. Favors has a body but essentially came to the Nets without any SKILL level. He can’t dribble, pass or shoot.
Spot on 100% correct
Even if Sullinger is the BPA, we still take him, and he plays the same position as Favors.
I want to trade Favors
before his value diminishes. I’m sorry, but for the youngest player in the league he doesnt play with any energy. He’s not the learper he was made out to be and has no skills with the ball in his hands. Let someone else worry about developing his non-existant skills.
No, the easiest solution to that is to CHANGE THE COACH! Look at the way Roy Hibbert has been playing the last four games compared to the rest of January and all of December.
Fire Johnson and hire Brown - I'm telling you Thorn was smoking somethin' when he let Brown slip away in the night.
by diehardNFFLbarnone on Feb 7, 2011 5:26 PM EST up reply actions
Lol. Did you buy that URL?
"I don’t think we want to be like the Knicks. I think we’d more like to resemble the Lakers." - Mikhail Prokhorov
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It's not the coach
The coach is a proven winner as a player and coach. You can’t fix poor talent.
Not yet.
Fire Johnson and hire Brown - I'm telling you Thorn was smoking somethin' when he let Brown slip away in the night.
by diehardNFFLbarnone on Feb 7, 2011 5:40 PM EST up reply actions
No skills ?
That’s insane. He has plenty ! What he lacks , is confidence. He’s missing easy lay ins. You can see he’s not an idiot, so those shots should be falling for him next season. He should come in with a mindelset, that he has done it already and step up his level. If that does not happen, then the talk can begin.
by Zartan on Feb 7, 2011 5:39 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
zartan
can he hit a 10 footer? Can he dribble? Can he pass?
I know some people are saying
the Nets should try to win their games right now.
The thing is it won’t help them.
I’m not saying they should tank but at the same time what does winning do for this team.
Again the key for the Nets to acquire their game changer is in the draft.
It does seem conflicted.
The Nets start to win and gain confidence. Get an okay draft pick at 6-10 or something. Next year things are similar again.
Many things will have to happen next year.
Lopez has to come back with a vengeance. Disappointing a lot of people and experts who had him as an all star and his break out season he has actually regressed. If he comes back and nothing has change the Nets should really look hard on not giving him an extension or not over paying him.
Favors is going to have to be trusted more with Avery. You can’t tell us this guy is the future and only playing 16 mins a game. He also has to improve. Stop being a foul magnet.
The Nets will have to address the Devin Harris situation.
Also stop chasing these stars. We seen this with the Bulls of 2007 and with the Nets who basically did the same thing the Bulls did and even held a press conference to end trade speculations.
This team is too young and easily distracted. I’m not trying to make excuses but at the same time. If this is a team that has a hard time focusing on the court. Do we really need this type of controversy.
Avery is going to have start trusting these young players and know he has. He is not in Dallas or around the Spurs. These are not veterans who have been in the playoffs. This is a team of young players and role players. I’m not saying he should baby them but also know what type of product you have.
Outlaw is not a starter and will not give you starting numbers.
This is going to be a journey and a bumpy road but it might be worth it if they draft well
"Do you remember when Martin had a dream and Bobby had a regiment"
No but Amare is one of my favorite players and do enjoy watching them play
was that it or you had something else?
"Do you remember when Martin had a dream and Bobby had a regiment"
by killa kadafi191 on Feb 7, 2011 5:51 PM EST up reply actions
i was just curious
i thought you were a knick fan.
I stopped reading your post when you said the nets shouldnt take. Of course they shouldnt. They dont need to “tank” to lose games.
hahahahah no problem
yea that is true.
"Do you remember when Martin had a dream and Bobby had a regiment"
by killa kadafi191 on Feb 7, 2011 5:56 PM EST up reply actions
tanking doesnt work
not in a system where a team with less than 2% chance of winning, the Bulls, get the #1 pick and the team with the worst record in a generation the Nets, winds up with the #3 pick.
tanking isnt neccessary
when the team is void on talent
I wonder if Avery might change the lineup this way
Farmar
Harris
D-James
Favors
Lopez
or
Farmar
Vujacic
D-james
Favors
Lopez
"We're not there yet, but we're going somewhere," Johnson said. "And we're going to Brooklyn. We're not going to contract. We're going to Brooklyn."
Avery said he's not safe
Might get traded who knows.
"We're not there yet, but we're going somewhere," Johnson said. "And we're going to Brooklyn. We're not going to contract. We're going to Brooklyn."
let's just stop for a secoind
Lineup changes arent going to change this team’s fortune. Smart FA signings, trades and draft choices can change this team. Until any of those three happen we root for a piss poor team.
winning and losing, living and dying...
I don’t mind it, when we lose to better teams. I don’t mind it, when we lose almost all away games, as that’s life in the NBA. What I mind is losing to teams at home, who we should be at least competitve with. I mind losing to teams, because they beat us to the loose balls. I don’t hold it against our players, for being lousy. I hold Thorn responsible for several big draft mistakes, and for signing OUTLAW to that ridiculous contract. I am glad that we drafted Favors, and I hope that he stays with us, and in a couple of years, he can be a very good player. I blame Denver for the MELO-MESS that we got into, for so long, and I applaud Proky for saying enough. Denver is now going to get crap from the Knicks for Melo. I was hoping that by this point in the season, that we would have 20 wins. I had higher hopes for Outlaw.
I had more hope that Avery would get the most out of these players, and that we would approach 30 wins for the year.
Paul from Sunny Delray Beach, Florida
he's getting the most out of this team
that’s the problem. Fans are easy to get on the coach because it gives them hope about their current roster. This nets team stinks and the record is what it would be if Red Auerbach was coaching.
For all those who are wondering if Derrick Williams can create his own shot, or play the 3
I strongly urge you to give this a quick read. Also, he plays for Zona – not exactly a team that gets a lot of national coverage, so its understandable for ppl not too know too much about the kid. He balls tho, trust me.
Although he does see more time at the 4 in Zona, he's still viewed as a combo forward, and has the tools to be a 3.
D Will, T Jones and Kyrie – I’d be happy w/ any of them if we get the chance this summer
Havent seen a lot of D will will have to check out some AZ games
I was impressed with T Jones the other night when KU played the Gators. Silky smooth, reminded me of Josh Smith/Lamar Odom.
Kyrie is pretty good too. But if he comes out (big if IMO since most Dukies never leave after freshman year) he will be top 3 pick.
Nets 2011- looking forward to the lottery- again
D.Williams is an animal. he's so damn aggressive, but he really seems like a four at least from the three or so Zona games I've seen.
I wouldn’t be upset if we picked him, but only if the true starting SF’s are all gone.
"I don’t think we want to be like the Knicks. I think we’d more like to resemble the Lakers." - Mikhail Prokhorov
Want to know when you can see draft lottery prospects on TV? Go to this post: http://www.netsdaily.com/2011/1/21/1948224/top-2011-draft-lottery-prospects-in-nationally-televised-ncaa-games **UPDATED With recent game stats on 1/27/11**
He plays almost primarily at the 4 for Zona.
But that’s more because of necessity, not because of ability.
by Clayton Balch on Feb 7, 2011 10:00 PM EST up reply actions
I know. I've seen Zona games, but his game just looks so much like that of a 4.
"I don’t think we want to be like the Knicks. I think we’d more like to resemble the Lakers." - Mikhail Prokhorov
Want to know when you can see draft lottery prospects on TV? Go to this post: http://www.netsdaily.com/2011/1/21/1948224/top-2011-draft-lottery-prospects-in-nationally-televised-ncaa-games **UPDATED With recent game stats on 1/27/11**
Anytime I've watched D Will (and Terrence Jones too) he's plays a faster pace/speed than anyone else on the court
He does have well above average PF ability, but with the shooting, handling, and finishing going to the hoop he seems like a slasher/wing type too. He may be playing a lot of 4 for Zona, but like Clayton said its not due ability, or lack there of. He’s got time to develop his SF skills further too.
The Nets clearly need 3, bad. D Will or T Jones all the way for me…
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