King: We Need One Superstar
by Net Income on Feb 4, 2011 10:21 AM EST
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PrintIn an interview with a Russian sports site, Billy King said he agrees with Mikhail Prokhorov on the team's biggest need: "To quote Prokhorov, the Nets do not have a superstar, who would become the leader of the team and put us in the playoffs. I totally agree."
But King didn't say the Nets need to trade for one. Instead, he said he was looking at the draft, citing how the Bulls and Thunder found their superstars, Derrick Rose and Kevin Durant, in the draft. But King also said the Nets need "one unconditional leader."
The Nets' GM also spoke about the likelihood that the Nets would continue to conduct training in Russia.
King noted while the Nets have international scouts, "our chief scout in Russia is Mikhail" but that if Prokhorov recommended a player like Viktor Khryapa, he as GM would have the final decision.
- Prokhorov's Worker: A Conversation with New Jersey Nets GM Billy King (Google Translation) - Pavel Lysenko - SovSport
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the thing about the draft it will take longer
and is really a gamble.
If the Nets are still only winning 20 games by then who will care??
"Do you remember when Martin had a dream and Bobby had a regiment"
by killa kadafi191 on Feb 4, 2011 10:27 AM EST reply actions
Everything sounds like it is NOT melo
And I just need a supermodel for a wife.
Does this mean, they realize that Brook or Favors are not going to be that superstar???
well melo had no interest in the nets so
It wasn’t happening and brook and favors are not super star players or show the potential to be that. This will be a long road. 3 or 4 years before we start discussing playoffs
"Do you remember when Martin had a dream and Bobby had a regiment"
by killa kadafi191 on Feb 4, 2011 10:29 AM EST up reply actions
Almost impossible to be really even discussing championships without a hall of famer, which pretty much almost every championship team had. Not just a superstar, a hall of famer
If we can be a 50 win team in 2-3 years, and keep that up for something like a decade, I’d be more than happy with that, championship team or not
Unfortunately,
that’s also how most team owners feel also.
"We're not talking about me and Darko in the same sentence." - Chris Webber vs KAHN!
by caseycheesecake on Feb 4, 2011 10:39 AM EST up reply actions
even the losers in the Finals
had a Hall of Famer most years…Reggie Millier, Gary Payton, Allen Iverson, Jason Kidd, Dirk Nowitzki.
Of course, superstars often need that championship to make the Hall of Fame.
not really
the body of work for some people like Dominique Wilkins speaks for itself.
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"Proky puffing out his chest after 3 months of groveling does little to make us not look stupid. Both teams look ridiculous."- JohnfromLongIsland, speaking on the embarrassing actions of the Nets Front Office.
by MrDollarBills on Feb 4, 2011 11:51 AM EST up reply actions
interesting question
do you think any of the 04 Pistons will be hall of famers? I kind of doubt it, but on the other hand that’s what made that team so special.
chauncey might get in one day, definitely not first ballot
the rest of them? nope.
if Dennis Rodman hasnt gotten in yet
then I dont see Ben Wallace getting in. If it took them that long to let Dennis Johnson in, then I dont see Chauncey Billups getting in. hopefully i’m wrong though
chauncey probably wont make it,
wallace only gets in if rodman is in
Thats a bit of a stretch
The Nets have solid depth players on a good club, and the 8th seed isn’t usually all that good a team. One or two solid additions and some growth from Favors and this is a playoffteam next year.
by Stephen Schmidt on Feb 4, 2011 10:37 AM EST up reply actions
You mean you don't have faith in Jerry's tweets? I do.
(End sarcasm)
I love the Nets...too bad they don't love me...
That's what I'm saying
Is this a sign that they don’t believe in them anchor our team into the future? Hmmm
Help! I'm a Nets fan :(
"We just got out of a bad relationship can't we get a break? We are already talking bout trading again? Maybe time to ourselves for a week or two will help with the pain of a non Melo life" lol
Machine and Ammo locked and loaded!
by cedaghost on Feb 4, 2011 10:30 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
is this more than just a marketing tactic?
obviously the international fans would be more likely to come aboard if we had that iconic figure to rally behind (and sell his jerseys)…
There isn't really any way to get them aside from free agency and the draft
No team ever trades a Rose or a Durant or a Love or a Griffin without them wanting out.
Only way is to get crazy lucky in the draft. As long as we’re in the bottom 7 teams in the league, sneaking into the top 3 is definitely possible. But is anybody in this draft projected to be a can’t miss star? I’m not sure even Irving is thought of to be a really really big star
i think irving could start in the NBA right now
but only on a handful of teams. im not the biggest devin harris fan in the world, but if we still have devin, we shouldnt go after kyrie. sullinger, t. jones, p. jones maybe?
we need a wing. we just want a better PG… maybe thats just me
I wouldn't go after Perry Jones
He really should stay in school, he’s not ready. He’d be pretty much a duplication of Favors for me, and perhaps not even have as much potential as Favors. Taking two raw guys based on potential in a row is not something I’m gonna do.
+1
i agree, but if youre a playoff-bound team, you can never have too many bigs. now, quality bigs is another issue all together. i’m still very interested in how many of these college ‘stars’ are going to declare for the draft… lockout looming and all that…
speaking of which, what comes first?
- college kids declare for the draft, or
- the nba determines if there will be a work stoppage?
the draft happens before the expiration of the CBA, and their deadline to declare is sometime in May, so declaration comes first
As for bigs, I’d much rather take Sullinger than Jones. I don’t believe in discounting Sullinger because he’s 1-2 inches shorter than he ideally should be
okay.... so the kids may have to roll the dice with their decisions...
very interesting indeed. i think how their respective college teams perform in february and march will play a major role in their decisions.
also, how they perform under the pressures of their conference tournaments and the NCAA tourney will affect their draft projections. i need to see sullinger play more… ive been watching pretty much only syracuse and seton hall games
i was recently told
that big agents are prepared to front money to top underclassmen.
rookies get a little money up front during the summer, but dont get their first paycheck til November 15, so the big agencies, with all their cash, could give top college players upfront cash as a loan til the lockout is over.
so talent management agencies have finally taken the last step.
they resemble the mafia more and more every day.
Anything to get a bird in the hand
Can’t risk losing that commission if the guy’s draft stock slips the next year, better have him declare now, ready or not
and when these kids can't pay back the loans?
what happens when someone gets injurred, suspended, cut, moved to the d-league?
just saying its looks like a slippery slope from where im standing
and what if the new CBA contains language regarding non-guaranteed contracts…. or a max on guaranteed money?
they're not doing anything illegal...that's good business...
if the NBA does not want this rules should be put in place…
by jirohkanzaki on Feb 4, 2011 11:02 AM EST up reply actions
the NBA is a joke
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"Proky puffing out his chest after 3 months of groveling does little to make us not look stupid. Both teams look ridiculous."- JohnfromLongIsland, speaking on the embarrassing actions of the Nets Front Office.
by MrDollarBills on Feb 4, 2011 11:52 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I'm assuming you mean Perry Jones
If so I agree. I saw a show on Sullinger and he really looked good.
Outlaw = MVP
by NetsAreTheChamps on Feb 4, 2011 5:24 PM EST up reply actions
I think the important part of the quote is that he wants "a leader of the team"
While Favors MAY grow into a star, I doubt he would be a leader. Lopez has not taken a leadership role. Irving, by all accounts, has that desire to compete that is part of a leader. While his skill level may not ensure that he will be a superstar, I think he fits the bill. He may be the only player in this draft that does though. P. Jones has superstar skills, but doesn’t seem like he has leadership qualities.
also
a “can’t miss star” doesnt really exist IMO…. i can think of two in the last decade, and neither have a championship.
good scouts, seasoned veterans, a great coach, and a good system. THATS what gets you a can’t miss pick out of the draft. once again i cite Rajon Rondo as my perfect example to successful draft picks outside of the lottery.
21st overall by phoenix, traded to boston.
You still need talent
A good system and a great coach can only take you so far if the talent isn’t there. You can have as great of a system as you want, you can have scouts that are the best in the world, but they can’t turn every guy into a Rajon Rondo.
talent is easy to see... size, athleticism, energy... all very tangible qualities.
if we can sure up the other aspects of this theory, then the odds are in our favor that billy king can find a ‘talented’ player in the next two drafts.
theres no guarantee that the draft will get us our desired super star, but the alternative clearly isn’t / hasn’t been working since 2003-2004.
no it is not
if that was true, then Parker wouldnt have been taken at #29, Ginobili wouldn’t have been taken at #58 and Rondo wouldn’t have been taken at #21.
again, though
you have two franchises who have historically drafted well. you put parker and ginobli next to the best power forward of all time, an all-time great coach in a long-standing and successful system.
i don’t think its a coincidence that certain franchises seem to do well all the time in the draft.
even if these teams eventually trade their picks, they utilize their picks to the best of their potential.
it's about scouting SYSTEMS
Spurs had a great international scout who the Nets hired away, didnt do that well with the Nets, was let go. I can tell you that the system is a high priority for the Nets.
thats great to hear...
because i think few, if any players have the talent to transcend a bad system, bad coach, and a bad team. lebron did it, but never really did it.
the draft is all well and good, because everyone loves talking about potential. but without the right pieces already in place, including staff and system, the draft could prove fruitless for us, as it has for other perennial draft lottery teams.
and luck
plays a part to. since the NBA has expanded # of teams, it’s made the job for GM’s around the league much more difficult.
imagine something extremely witty here
Unfortunately I don’t see any stars in this years lottery. Some nice players but no stars, but I maybe wrong.
PJones, Irving, Kanter, TJones, Barnes, Sullinger, etc.
I would say Irving, Barnes and Kanter have the most star potential.
NoMelo Era Record: 5-4
by Andy. on Feb 4, 2011 10:37 AM EST via mobile reply actions
Need one superstar for what?
To win a title? Forget it. To make the playoffs? Maybe. Our best chance is if Favors pans out. Forget FAs until we’re competitive. The draft doesn’t seem to have any “superstars” and if it does it will take years before they become one. I say take risks on injured players like Oden and draft if we can’t get Howard. We are no different than about 25-27 other teams looking for the RIGHT player to add. We need someone in the FO that knows what it takes and could make it happen. After Proky desire for Melo and Avery’s signing a Outhouse imo we’re 0-2. Hopefully King can get it done.
if Denver comes crawling back and we offer up 3 first rounders and say no way you’re getting Favors..it would be an EPIC move by Prokhorov.
by NetsKiNG on Jan 20, 2011 10:01 PM EST up reply actions
Our savior, make it happen.
I'd give Oden a try this summer
If he can be half of what he was supposed to be, that’s good enough. Perhaps he can pan out like Camby.Oft injured, but great when he is on the floor
i would love to try out oden, he's got great talent
but the price will likely be too high. I’d be all over a 1/5 deal if he’d take it to rebuild his stock
^NetsAreScorching Analysis - Derrick Favors' Offensive Skillset
Is it that hard to not fade on hook shots?
NoMelo Era Record: 5-4
patience and prudence
get the best complimentary talent available in this years draft…continue to develop Favors…and make one last run at the 2012 available studs pitching the Barclay center…at least you still have flexibility going forward if we get shutout again
LOL
Oh yea Howard D-Will or Paul would be willing to go to Brooklyn with Favors LOL over Melo and Amare in MSG LOL
Just Great No Melo and More Favors
No Melo=More 15 wins Seasons Amazing
Team is garbage and unwatchable
by Wall2KingJames on Feb 4, 2011 11:05 AM EST up reply actions
NYK Won't be able to afford 3 Stars
Pretty sure Miami pulled off the perfect heist because they were able to clear all their salary and they did it under the current CBA. I doubt the new CBA will make it possible for NY to afford that.
by Jack Handy Jr on Feb 4, 2011 11:08 AM EST up reply actions
Miami pulled off the perfect heist
because they were tampering. That’s why they were the only team gung ho enough to clear out their entire roster to land 3 guys.
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"Proky puffing out his chest after 3 months of groveling does little to make us not look stupid. Both teams look ridiculous."- JohnfromLongIsland, speaking on the embarrassing actions of the Nets Front Office.
by MrDollarBills on Feb 4, 2011 11:55 AM EST up reply actions
no state tax in Florida
which significantly narrows the gap.
Nets 2011- looking forward to the lottery- again
everyone except bosh took a pay cut.
mike miller got paid off the MLE and besides joel anthony who is overpaid the rest of them are actually making what they should(but in this screwed up system is considered a pay cut)
The realist keepin it real amongst the surrealists
by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Feb 4, 2011 4:03 PM EST up reply actions
Knicks wouldn't have the cap space unless they literally get rid of everyone
And even then, perhaps not
Ok If they dont have the Cap Space, Those 3 Guys wont want to come play with Favors in Brooklyn
Just Great No Melo and More Favors
No Melo=More 15 wins Seasons Amazing
Team is garbage and unwatchable
by Wall2KingJames on Feb 4, 2011 11:10 AM EST up reply actions
Amare may be attractive right now to play with
but mark my words- Those knee issues are no joke. He will come up lame either late this season or next. And with that contract tying up so much $$, you’d have to be crazy to hitch your wagon to that train.
"We all have to decide for ourself how much sin we can live with"
But to be fair about his knees
he hasn’t missed any significant time due to his knees since ’05. his knees have held up for 5 years, with no reported problems. so to call it a ticking time bomb – well that bomb has been ticking, and ticking, and ticking, for half a decade now. so i think Melo and others might not be so crazy to take a chance their.
Yes, I am a Giants fan. Now that we got that out of the way....
IMPEACH DOLAN!!!!
I will not - lose! -Jay Z-
to be accurate
he has missed 118 games since 2005, 79 in 2005-06 to his knee and 39 to both retina and knee issues.
he missed 29 games due to the eye injuries, not 39
he suffered 2 of them that season, causing him to miss all that time. and that’s what i said, he missed any significant time due to knee issues since the ’05 – ’06 season, i said ’05 only because he played 3 games that year – those three being in the ’05 part of that ’05 – ’06 season.
the season that he lost games to the detached retina notwithstanding, he’s played 292 out of 295 possible regular season games – including all of them this season.
Yes, I am a Giants fan. Now that we got that out of the way....
IMPEACH DOLAN!!!!
I will not - lose! -Jay Z-
we'll probably be shut out again
People need to realize that the only superstar players coming to NJ will be drafted by NJ. End of story.
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"Proky puffing out his chest after 3 months of groveling does little to make us not look stupid. Both teams look ridiculous."- JohnfromLongIsland, speaking on the embarrassing actions of the Nets Front Office.
by MrDollarBills on Feb 4, 2011 11:55 AM EST up reply actions
this +11
Never give up on something, you can't go on a day without thinking bout it....
by Kingsley King Lin on Feb 4, 2011 11:57 AM EST up reply actions
Yes.
This is why I don’t understand the obsession with making the playoffs.
"I don’t think we want to be like the Knicks. I think we’d more like to resemble the Lakers." - Mikhail Prokhorov
Want to know when you can see draft lottery prospects on TV? Go to this post: http://www.netsdaily.com/2011/1/21/1948224/top-2011-draft-lottery-prospects-in-nationally-televised-ncaa-games **UPDATED With recent game stats on 1/27/11**
Oden?
muwu, no disrespect but I would rather sign someone’s 95 year old great grandmother than Greg Oden. She will probably be less injury prone. The guy doesn’t play for 6 months when he has a hang nail.
Until we are able to land a superstar via trade, the only option we have is to keep developing our young talent and improving through the draft. This doesn’t seem like an unrealistic option since we’ve picked up Lopez and Favors in the last three years.
And Wall2KingJames, what’s the point of all of this negativity? We’re all here hoping to see the Nets get better. It’s frustrating not to win, but it’s pointless to trash the team. We all want the same outcome which is to see them win.
He's 23 years old
I mean, if he can recover from his injuries in what, 2-3 years, he can still be something. Grant Hill overcame his foot injuries, Ilgauskas overcame his foot injuries, KMart’s still playing on 2 microfractured knees.
It’s a risk, but there’s a good payoff if things go right
by muwu on Feb 4, 2011 11:11 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
yeah he still has one of the best PER's for a big man and he's shown how much of a defensive force he can be
the age is the upsides.a guy who has been injury-prone for his first 4 years is going to derail you from the possible reamaining 10-15 years of his career. there a plenty of guys working on micro-fractured knees(kidd, k-mart, vc, t-mac, stoudemire, z-bo). i’m ot saying throw the house at oden but if they can get him on like a 3yr/18 mil deal it would be worth it
The realist keepin it real amongst the surrealists
by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Feb 4, 2011 11:57 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
- Tore a wrist ligament in June 2006 as a high school senior and didn’t play for the Buckeyes until December of that year. He was slowed down for the rest of the 2006-2007 college season.
- Got drafted in 2007, had microfracture surgery on his right knee in the summer and missed the entire 2007-08 season.
- Sprained his right foot and chipped his left knee cap in the 2008-09 season. He missed 20 games.
- Fractured his patella December 2009 and missed the rest of the 2009-10 season. He missed 60 games.
- Microfracture surgery on the left knee in November 2010 and misses this entire 2010-11 season.
I wish the guy well, but I wouldn’t touch him. Zydrunas is the exception, not the rule.
Big Z also.
"There's no way, with hindsight, I would've ever called up Larry, called up Magic and said, 'Hey, look, let's get together and play on one team,'"
Official Member of the "DO NOT TRADE DERRICK FAVORS" Movement
no big z and pryzbilla(and maybe yao)
have bounced back from stress fractures in their feet. big z had so much potential in the late 90’s but by 2000-2001 he ended up missing about 2-3 seasons worth of games by the time lebron got there. but he has made the best of his career up to this point
The realist keepin it real amongst the surrealists
by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Feb 4, 2011 4:07 PM EST up reply actions
Nets would be foolosh
Not to consider Melo again at the deadline when the game of chicken ends. If Melo told Denver he would sign off on NJ and we declined to deal bc of pride I’d be pretty pissed off.
Only if you can get him at a stupendously cheap price
Something like Melo, Billups, Shelden Williams for Murphy, Harris, Hump and James. Even then maybe not
Don't deal Harris.
Official Member of the "DO NOT TRADE DERRICK FAVORS" Movement
by shea23 on Feb 4, 2011 12:34 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Denver should get next to nothing but draft picks and Murphy's contract to be honest
it’s no longer worth it to give up a ton of talent to Melo. Denver and Carmelo have pressed their luck with us. They are irrevelant. The Nets are hopefully looking ahead to the next two drafts where can rack up considerable talent
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"Proky puffing out his chest after 3 months of groveling does little to make us not look stupid. Both teams look ridiculous."- JohnfromLongIsland, speaking on the embarrassing actions of the Nets Front Office.
by MrDollarBills on Feb 4, 2011 11:58 AM EST up reply actions
irrelevant, excuse moi
Official Member of the "Travis OutLOL Society". 5 years, 35 Million Dollars worth of lulz.
"Proky puffing out his chest after 3 months of groveling does little to make us not look stupid. Both teams look ridiculous."- JohnfromLongIsland, speaking on the embarrassing actions of the Nets Front Office.
by MrDollarBills on Feb 4, 2011 11:58 AM EST up reply actions
Murphy, James, Ross
Viola… throw in some picks (not the ‘11 #1) and we’re good.
by Jack Handy Jr on Feb 4, 2011 1:20 PM EST up reply actions
Without the 11 number one, the Knicks offer is better IMO.
"I don’t think we want to be like the Knicks. I think we’d more like to resemble the Lakers." - Mikhail Prokhorov
Want to know when you can see draft lottery prospects on TV? Go to this post: http://www.netsdaily.com/2011/1/21/1948224/top-2011-draft-lottery-prospects-in-nationally-televised-ncaa-games **UPDATED With recent game stats on 1/27/11**
I'd do it without Favors only
Mark my words, Favors will or will be very close for DPoY honors one day. He’s already defensively sound and gets in foul trouble because he overcommits from time to time or sets illigal picks on offence (btw he already adjusted to this one). On offense he’ll be just fine too. One can see his nice stroke, base for his jumper in the future and on putbacks alone he can average 10pts/game. I say keep Favors and secure PF position for next 15 years.
Not a superstar. Not someone who
can put up points. The Nets need a Leader – who just happens to be a very, very good player.
i agree, i've slowly changed my mind
melo has proven to me that he is not the answer through the whole melo drama.
we need the types of “STARS” that San Antonio has. “STARS” in terms of ‘skill set’ but not star in terms of ‘mindset’- No Drama, No ego guys who know not only how to play team basketball, but also realize that a winning team can not afford distractions.
it takes a certain personality to subsume an ego. but this is the personality i think we need in order to build the right way.
see San Antonio, Boston, and Kevin Durant
imagine something extremely witty here
the good news is that
i think we’ve done a fantastic job with our current roster of adding role players that have this mindset, and are ready to commit to the TEAM concept. just need a player or two more with better skills who thinks this way
imagine something extremely witty here
Melo
is not a leader, and frankly he’s a bleeping ignoramus. Not worth the headaches that he will cause us.
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"Proky puffing out his chest after 3 months of groveling does little to make us not look stupid. Both teams look ridiculous."- JohnfromLongIsland, speaking on the embarrassing actions of the Nets Front Office.
by MrDollarBills on Feb 4, 2011 11:59 AM EST up reply actions
how do you figure?
Yes, I am a Giants fan. Now that we got that out of the way....
IMPEACH DOLAN!!!!
I will not - lose! -Jay Z-
Boston has KG. The Lakers have Kobe.
The Thunder have Durant. Orlando has Dwight. Miami has Bron and DWade. Chicago has Rose. San Antonio has Duncan and Manu. Every team that has a legitimate shot at the ring has an unquestioned Leader who has the ability to put everyone in their place and fired up.
by Doesthishurt on Feb 4, 2011 12:07 PM EST up reply actions
also paul pierce, ray allen, dirk nowitzski, jkidd
chris paul
and young guys like
kevin love, rondo, rose, westbrook,
besides being TOP FLIGHT talents all have that non-basketball related quality of leadership, no drama, and team play
that’s what we need.
imagine something extremely witty here
I think this describes Kyrie Irving.
He may not ever have the same quickness that Rose possesses, but he seems like a player that teammates rally around.
He makes his teammates better.
He’s also from NJ which is a nice bonus. Lol.
"I don’t think we want to be like the Knicks. I think we’d more like to resemble the Lakers." - Mikhail Prokhorov
Want to know when you can see draft lottery prospects on TV? Go to this post: http://www.netsdaily.com/2011/1/21/1948224/top-2011-draft-lottery-prospects-in-nationally-televised-ncaa-games **UPDATED With recent game stats on 1/27/11**
did you hear Bill Walton's advise to Greg Oden?
http://sports.yahoo.com/video/player/nba/24030411#nba/24030411
—be sure to copy and paste the entire link
If he was 30, then he could do that
But when you’re 23, you’re not gonna give up the thing you’ve been working your entire life for so early in the game.
i agree
i just thought it was shockingly interesting that Walton would actually make a public comment like that
He's encouraging Luke Walton to do the same
He went through a ton of pain because of his injuries, doesn’t want other guys going through that as well
And speaking of the draft, one guy that's really shot up the draft boards:
Derrick Williams
The most productive player in college basketball right now is none other than Arizona’s Derrick Williams.
Williams, 19, is blossoming in his sophomore season and rates amongst the top 5 scorers per minute in the NCAA, thanks to his proficiency in getting to the free throw line he ranks #1 in free throw attempts) and scoring efficiency (#1 in true shooting percentage).
Watching his film, the thing that stands out the most is how complete a scorer he’s become. Williams is a nightmare for college coaches to gameplan for. He’s able to shoot the ball from beyond the arc (knocking down an outrageous 70% of his attempts, on only about one make per game), operate effectively in the post, and create his own shot from the perimeter.
From DraftExpress.com http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Derrick-Williams-5811/#ixzz1D0ZAcLr8
http://www.draftexpress.com
If we want a scorer, he could be someone to look at, maybe he could play some 3 as well as 4
He's not a great rebounder, might never be one
Maybe a “big man” in the mold of Michael Beasley. But without the drugs
Terrence Jones is the one who we must draft, hes melo/jsmoove combo. Or Irving
Derrick William doesnt really create of his dribble if you watch him, all of his scores all assisted mostly.
2011-2012 Nets, 7th or 8th seed and mark this will win champ in Proky’s Promise!
Harris
Morrow
Terrence Jones
Favors
Lopez
Add Jimmer or Hamilton
Never give up on something, you can't go on a day without thinking bout it....
by Kingsley King Lin on Feb 4, 2011 11:32 AM EST up reply actions
in 5 years champ
k
Never give up on something, you can't go on a day without thinking bout it....
by Kingsley King Lin on Feb 4, 2011 11:33 AM EST up reply actions
You're right about the not creating off the dribble.
He can spot up and power dunk.
I also think he might not be so much a 3 as a 4.
"I don’t think we want to be like the Knicks. I think we’d more like to resemble the Lakers." - Mikhail Prokhorov
Want to know when you can see draft lottery prospects on TV? Go to this post: http://www.netsdaily.com/2011/1/21/1948224/top-2011-draft-lottery-prospects-in-nationally-televised-ncaa-games **UPDATED With recent game stats on 1/27/11**
Because he plays PF in college.
If he struggles making the transition to SF in the NBA, then theoretically he could try to move back to PF. Unlikely though.
by Clayton Balch on Feb 4, 2011 11:35 AM EST up reply actions
plus nets had enough wit williams!
Never give up on something, you can't go on a day without thinking bout it....
by Kingsley King Lin on Feb 4, 2011 11:56 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Watch these two TJones Highlite, more more a creator then williams!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k0SywyghC4g
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yEgmxg8OF90
Never give up on something, you can't go on a day without thinking bout it....
by Kingsley King Lin on Feb 4, 2011 11:54 AM EST up reply actions
can he play NBA SF?
That is the question.
We cannot afford another project player with this pick. favors is fine, but we need someone that can hit the ground running.
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"Proky puffing out his chest after 3 months of groveling does little to make us not look stupid. Both teams look ridiculous."- JohnfromLongIsland, speaking on the embarrassing actions of the Nets Front Office.
by MrDollarBills on Feb 4, 2011 12:01 PM EST up reply actions
TERRENCE JONES!
Never give up on something, you can't go on a day without thinking bout it....
by Kingsley King Lin on Feb 4, 2011 12:02 PM EST up reply actions
I'd like to get something in return for Murhy
other than that, I wouldn’t do any moves for overpaid veterans.
by Belarus4life on Feb 4, 2011 11:48 AM EST up reply actions
we might as well ride it out
let Favors develop and figure out what to do with The Hump.
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by MrDollarBills on Feb 4, 2011 12:02 PM EST up reply actions
Only trade Murphy.
Anything else is detrimental in the long run.
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they're not
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by MrDollarBills on Feb 4, 2011 12:02 PM EST up reply actions
Is there a Superstar in the making in this lot? Because I get the feeling that at our maximum luck, these are our choices.
Restricted Free Agents…
-Jeff Green
-Nick Young
-JR Smith
-Marcus Thornton
-Wilson Chandler
-Thaddeus Young
Draft…
-Kyrie Irving, Duke -PG
-Derrick Williams, Arizona -F
-Jared Sullinger; Ohio St. – F/C
-Terrence Jones; Kentucky -F
-Jimmer Fredette; BYU – G
What???
Tjones will be a stud, n how u no we wont get top 3 picks look at i.e. Philly!
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by Kingsley King Lin on Feb 4, 2011 11:59 AM EST up reply actions
It's all abou those lottery balls.
Washington had the 5th best chance of getting the 1st pick last year. I’m not even sure Irving is the guaranteed 1st pick.
I like Terence Jones too. I think he would fit in perfectly with this team today, Lopez, Harris and all.
we are projected to pick tjones or barnes at 6th in most draft sites
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by Kingsley King Lin on Feb 4, 2011 12:02 PM EST up reply actions
Barnes has been really strong in the past few games.
I think his draft stock will skyrocket with the upcoming ACC tournament.
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none of those FA's are worth the money
I like Jeff Green but I’m wary about paying him a lot of money when he’s clearly not a go to guy
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by MrDollarBills on Feb 4, 2011 12:03 PM EST up reply actions
I'd rather the Nets draft Terrence Jones or Irving
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by MrDollarBills on Feb 4, 2011 12:04 PM EST up reply actions
yes!
Never give up on something, you can't go on a day without thinking bout it....
by Kingsley King Lin on Feb 4, 2011 12:04 PM EST up reply actions
I really like Jeff Green...
I think he could score 20+ ppg at small forward as one of the main cogs in our offense.
by Coach Joe on Feb 4, 2011 12:11 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I think Nick Young could be a pretty good 2 guard for us if we let go of Sasha.
Harris
Young
T.Jones
Favors
Lopez
???
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Jeff Green out of that group of FAs
makes the most sense to me. He would be a solid SF on this squad.
by Doesthishurt on Feb 4, 2011 12:10 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
And the last "superstar" who voluntarily came crawling to the
Nets was whom? The whole argument about us needing to “save” money to land a superstar is tiresome. Let’s stop pretending something like that will happen.
by Doesthishurt on Feb 4, 2011 12:21 PM EST up reply actions
I'd give Green Harris type money
without question. I’d find some way, whether it’s the use of vodoo or other witchery to dump Outlaw and his horrible contract. Lopez/Favors & Hump/Jeff Green make for a solid young crew.
by Doesthishurt on Feb 4, 2011 12:25 PM EST up reply actions
If Melo is a Nugget past deadline
He’ll be a knick. means we can snatch Chandler and give himr easonable contract. He’s no Melo, but can put up points and plays tough BBL.
by Belarus4life on Feb 4, 2011 12:13 PM EST up reply actions
He'd be instant major upgrade over Outlaw
Would allow us to reduce Outlaws minutes and let him play off the bench. Chandler’s numbers are pretty consistnet over last 3 years. Many thought Amare would do nothing without Nash. Look how that turned out.
I say go after:
Green (avoid crazy contract though)
Chandler (also, at reasonable price)
Young (doubt Wiz would not match)
by Belarus4life on Feb 4, 2011 12:42 PM EST up reply actions
Chandler will flourish in any system
he’s steadily improved every year since his rookie season, and can almost shoot as effectively as he can slash to the basket. not to mention he plays solid man and team defense – which obviously has nothing to do with D’Antoni. and he’s not a cancer on the court. he never complains, he never gets too hyped….hell, his demeanor never changes! if you just switch to a knicks game, you wouldn’t be able to tell if he had just dropped 50, or fouled out with 18 turnovers.
we’d be sad to lose him if melo came, but we would. and i would love him to end up in Brooklyn.
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IMPEACH DOLAN!!!!
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the problem is the franchise
1. No superstar or star wants to come here willing. The Nets are no ones top choice.
2. This is why I don’t get the whole Amare thing. I hear how Proky is a risk taker and is so rich but amare was too much of a risk and too expensive.
Yet travis outlaw is okay. Because Proky can afford to over pay him.
Had amare been here it would be no question where Melo wants to go.
That the thing . The knicks were in the same boat as us but they went for amare.
No star wanted to go there either.
You can only go so far with that whole face of a new franchise, new arena blah blah blah blah.
That is not impressive we are seen what Lebron Kidd and Melo thought about BK.
I think King is mentioning Rose and Durant to help fans realize a trade for a super star or star isn’t happening. The nets are not players in the upcoming 2012 free agents or any other.
The draft is the nets only hope and that is a gamble
"Do you remember when Martin had a dream and Bobby had a regiment"
by killa kadafi191 on Feb 4, 2011 12:09 PM EST via mobile reply actions
NO team
let me repeat NO team other than the Knicks were willing to give Amare $100 million over five years. The best the Suns would do was three years.
get real…there is something called risk vs. reward.
by Net Income on Feb 4, 2011 12:34 PM EST up reply actions 5 recs
Yup
Even the biggest Knicks homers believe there is about a 3 year window on a championship since the 4th year is believed to be where all the injuries will have finally taken its toll on Amar’e knees.
Section 18, Row 7 at The Rock!
what window do the Nets have?
"Do you remember when Martin had a dream and Bobby had a regiment"
by killa kadafi191 on Feb 4, 2011 12:55 PM EST up reply actions
5 years for what a playoff birth
we could very well be Memphis or Golden State.
"Do you remember when Martin had a dream and Bobby had a regiment"
by killa kadafi191 on Feb 4, 2011 1:08 PM EST up reply actions
my point the Knicks at least open the window
we are trying to do the same thing.
I don’t get is that we have people saying. “we were 12-70. we have to over pay someone” the reason to justify signing outlaw.
that’s BS. If I’m over pay someone it will be someone like Amare.
Not a role player
that is just stupid.
"Do you remember when Martin had a dream and Bobby had a regiment"
by killa kadafi191 on Feb 4, 2011 1:06 PM EST up reply actions
also, re: outlaw
he was overpaid because at the time the nets needed to fulfill the NBA’s minimum payroll requirements.
he basically was a guy that we wanted, and he benefitted from getting a few extra bucks because of a situation the nets were in.
it’s not franchise crippling, and it definitely wasn’t like we viewed him as the franchise saving future.
not even comparable to amare. w/ amare, the knicks were the only team willing to gamble on his knees. we’ll see if that works out when we look at the move 5 yrs from now
imagine something extremely witty here
we over paid a role player to be a starter
and are stuck with him for 7 years???
You don’t think potential free agents don’t look at that and see examples on how the Nets improve their team??
"Do you remember when Martin had a dream and Bobby had a regiment"
by killa kadafi191 on Feb 4, 2011 1:12 PM EST up reply actions
hahahahah sorry
i meant to type 7 million for 5 years
"Do you remember when Martin had a dream and Bobby had a regiment"
by killa kadafi191 on Feb 4, 2011 1:14 PM EST up reply actions
no i don't think it has as much
of tragic ripple effect as it seems you do in terms of what other players think.
if we can upgrade the position and slide t-out back to more of a role player situation, it might even look like a pretty good move.
also, he’s got a 5 yr deal not 7
imagine something extremely witty here
I beg to differ
look at the Knicks. They were a joke for the last ten years. No one would even dream of saying trade me to the Knicks.
all of sudden they get amare.
You hear CP3 Melo and others saying they want to be Knicks.
It has nothing to do with the Mecca and all that other BS Knicks say.
No one is impressed with their one championship back in the 70’s.
It’s all about Amare.
"Do you remember when Martin had a dream and Bobby had a regiment"
by killa kadafi191 on Feb 4, 2011 1:16 PM EST up reply actions
a few points
1. amare is playing great this year and all of the praise is justly deserved. but what happens if his knees go this yr, next yr, two yrs from now, three yrs from now? changes the idea of if it was worth it or not.
2. maybe we won’t be able to find our leader/star through free agency. but with most trades, and the draft players opinions on a team don’t factor in.
3. things worthwhile take time. there is no question in my mind that the Nets have improved in every area (on court and off) from last year to this year. and contrary to what you think about outlaw and his contract, we are not locked into any bad situation that would prevent us from making moves as they arise in the future. we’re flexible and our future has yet to be written. to me, that’s not something to despair over, but instead, it’s something to be optimistic about.
imagine something extremely witty here
what happens if anybodies knees go out in the next cpl years?
there’s as much chance of that happening as Amare’s knees. he hasn’t had any serious knee injury or time lost since ‘05. that’s 5 years ago. many players have serious injuries during their career path that put them at risk as much as Amare’s knees do him. i think the knee issue gets overblown a bit.
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any 7 foot guy
who get paid to jump around 1,000,000 a week, are likely to eventually have an injury
So there is a risk that Oden, Amare, LBJ, Garnett, Shaq, Olajuwon, Howard or Lopez will one day get injured.
While the risk that Amare will get injured might be higher, since he had been injured already, there is nothing that says that it is much higher then any other big men
i think the multi yr deals
where an overpaid guy gets 8-11 mill a yr really hurts a franchise.
5mill a yr…? if he can produce a little bit more, not gonna kill us.
i’m saying this as someone who has dreaded watching 85% of travis outlaw this year. but, he showing some signs of productivity, there’s a lot of talent around the league and in the draft at his position, and his contract is that crippling
imagine something extremely witty here
My thing is don't tell me how money isn't a thing for our owner
but say an all star player was too expensive.
don’t tell me how our owner is a risk taker and Amare is too much of a risk.
yet a role player who has never shown he could start is not.
Also is okay with trading for a old back court. just to get a player you have been begging to get since summer.
That makes no sense.
You say oh Rip and Billups have won in the playoffs and put up these numbers blah blah blah .
it’s all about Brooklyn.
It’s all about winning blah blah blah.
it’s obvious not when I see what I see
"Do you remember when Martin had a dream and Bobby had a regiment"
by killa kadafi191 on Feb 4, 2011 1:22 PM EST up reply actions
i think it makes a lot of sense
to come to conclusion that amare IS/WAS too much of risk, even for risk takers.
a lot of smart people, and a lot of risk takers didn’t dive into that pool- not just proky
imagine something extremely witty here
with good enough reason
but when you are the Nets or Knicks yea u need to take a chance
"Do you remember when Martin had a dream and Bobby had a regiment"
by killa kadafi191 on Feb 4, 2011 2:19 PM EST up reply actions
amare probably would of chosen knicks if we offered same deal cause he was with d antoni
plus thorn would never give a contract like that to his injury history
okay let me put it like this
Proky wants to make the Nets more popular.
Who does that Outlaw or Amare???
Proky wants to attract free agents to the Nets/
who does that Outlaw or Amare???
Proky wants to change the Nets culture/
who helps accomplish that Outlaw or Amare???
Proky wants a winning team by the time they enter BK.
who helps accomplish that Outlaw or Amare???
Proky wants someone that will be a leader on the floor and take control in the fourth QT/
who has done that Outlaw or Amare???
"Do you remember when Martin had a dream and Bobby had a regiment"
by killa kadafi191 on Feb 4, 2011 1:10 PM EST up reply actions
it is easier to say that now
nobody thought Amare would be balling this hard
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by lemmetakeutodamovies on Feb 4, 2011 4:35 PM EST up reply actions
what???
amare is all nba, rookie of the year, all star and etc what did u expect from him
"Do you remember when Martin had a dream and Bobby had a regiment"
by killa kadafi191 on Feb 4, 2011 5:23 PM EST up reply actions
you double talk alot
I remember when the Nets signed Outlaw and you were the main one taking up for the franchise. While some were already saying this was horrible move back then you were still like always defending the Nets.
Even going so far as to saying it doesn’t matter if the he is over paid Proky is a billionaire.
REALLY????/
Then I see you say this alot. You don’t make billions with out taking risk.
oh really.
So how is the reward with the risk taken on Outlaw.
Now compare that to the rewards that Amare is giving his team.
The Nets are a team that was killing their self to get Melo by getting an old back court.
So where is your logic there???
See the point is everything that Proky is trying to accomplish and get could have been had with Amare.
My thing is don’t tell me how rich and how our owner takes risk when those risk are taken on the likes of Petro and Outlaw.
"Do you remember when Martin had a dream and Bobby had a regiment"
by killa kadafi191 on Feb 4, 2011 12:54 PM EST up reply actions
that is for netincome
"Do you remember when Martin had a dream and Bobby had a regiment"
by killa kadafi191 on Feb 4, 2011 12:55 PM EST up reply actions
you look at things in a simplistic manner
a $35 million dollar contract is basically the MLE reconfigured. he is 26 years old. You believe that he will never be any good. I dont feel that way, but even if he isn’t, that is NOT NOT an onerous contract. Its the MLE, 108% of the league average.
You seem to think it’s a cap killer. Baloney.
Amare’s contract is risk/reward situation and every GM but one looked at it as too much of a risk. IF as the Suns believe, he will not be worth what he is going to be paid in the fourth and fifth years of his contract, when he will be paid $21,679,893 and $23,410,988. THAT would be a cap killer for two BIG reasons you seem to ignore each and every time you make this argument: 1) the new CBA will be more restrictive and 2) his contract is uninsureable. The betting around the league by GM’s is that it will be worth the risk or they would have made an offer. AGAIN, the Knicks had NO competition.
Why was that?
I stand by my argument. Outlaw’s contract, even if he is a bust, represents an insignificant risk long term. Stoudemire’s a HUGE risk…multiple times the risk.
I'll give Outlaw another year
especially coming off of surgery, but you have to admit that it is looking like there were many ways that they money could have been spent more prudently.
right now the rewards have been worth the risk
and will be even more rewarding if reeling in that big fish catches us an even bigger fish come next offseason(or in a cpl weeks)
sometimes gambles pay off – so far this one has.
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IMPEACH DOLAN!!!!
I will not - lose! -Jay Z-
and thus the essence of the word gamble
Yes, I am a Giants fan. Now that we got that out of the way....
IMPEACH DOLAN!!!!
I will not - lose! -Jay Z-
We need Melo or Mary Katherine Gallager
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_0o0QIgu3NI&feature=related
Don’t give up Billy. Superstar or Bust.
"This isn’t fantasy or rotisserie basketball. Why would Denver want Outlaw? Would you?"
Getting Melo is not up to the Nets or Melo right now. It is up to Ujiri/Kroenke.
Although officially Nets have no interest in Melo, I’m sure Nuggets aren’t convinced though because Murphy is still available and Marketing (likely Yormarket) made the possible mistake of putting up the Barclays demo. on the day of Melo’s game. They should have put it up after JKidd’s remarks.
Nets need to do a better job of convincing Nuggets that they aren’t interested in Melo.
Prokhorov just said he wants a top 12 NBA player. He wasn’t referring to the Draft or that Lopez/Favors would develop into a top 12 player. He was referring to getting a Melo or Melo type player and he would be patient.
it is up to melo he will be a knick
"Do you remember when Martin had a dream and Bobby had a regiment"
by killa kadafi191 on Feb 4, 2011 12:29 PM EST up reply actions
You seem to have done another 180.
Just a few weeks ago you admitted you were wrong to say things with such certainty when you obviously have no concrete evidence.
Now you seem to have flipped and gone back to your old ways.
The only thing I say with certainty is that it is up to Nuggets FO where he is playing after the All Star game.
No one can deny that fact.
Not sure why you take pleasure in keep saying Melo decides where he will be traded, if you are a Nets fan?
And Nets fans would be in total denial, if they block out of their heads the fact that the Nets franchise would be better off if a GOOD Melo trade came to be, just before the trade deadline (unlike the previous BAD Melo scenario).
I said even then that Melo makes it to Feb and not traded he will be a Knick.
I don’t take pleasure out of Melo being a Knick. It is just acceptance.
My mother died for cancer. I knew while praying over her I would never talk to her again.
I hope for the best but accepted what would be.
That is life. I am going to die. Melo is going to be a Knick because it’s what he wants.
It doesn’t matter about tweeting him 20 times a day.
that the nets have the best package.
that the Knicks have nothing to offer.
All of that doesn’t matter.
If Melo wants to be a Knick he will be one.
I can accept that because it is what it is.
I haven’t done a 180 I’m just speaking my opinion. I’m not attacking you for yours. You feel he will be a Net. Cool. I just said he will be Knick.
We just have difference of opinions but I’m not going to be a sad or down just because he will be a Knick.
Wayyyyyyyyyy too much real world problems to be concern with.
"Do you remember when Martin had a dream and Bobby had a regiment"
by killa kadafi191 on Feb 4, 2011 1:04 PM EST up reply actions
wow
great example lol
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by lemmetakeutodamovies on Feb 4, 2011 4:38 PM EST up reply actions
U say that so what is the reward with travis outlaw
No offense but u double talk a lot.
You try to defend every move this front office makes.
People during the off season was saying how trashy outlaw was and what did u say?
Proky is a billionarie so what if he over pay someone.
We over pay travis and stuck with a role player making 7 million a year
Do
"Do you remember when Martin had a dream and Bobby had a regiment"
by killa kadafi191 on Feb 4, 2011 12:48 PM EST up reply actions
that was not meant for u
trying to post from my G2
"Do you remember when Martin had a dream and Bobby had a regiment"
by killa kadafi191 on Feb 4, 2011 12:59 PM EST up reply actions
Nick(Cali) [via mobile]
Is there any deal that the Lakers can make to get rid of Ron Artest? I would even take Troy Murphy atleast he can knock down open jumpers!
Chris Sheridan (2:38 PM)
The Nets would take that deal in a heartbeat. As for the Lakers, I don’t think they’ve forgotten how valuable Ron was to them in Game 7 against the Celtics. He was their steadiest player over the full 48 minutes. They’ll need him in the playoffs for his defense, and I don’t see them panicking and trading him away unless there are issues outside of the public eye that are giving them cause for concern (wouldn’t be the first time with Ron-Ron).
Sheridan doesnt know
you have no idea how much King and Marks dislike (and I am being kind) Sheridan.
Good to hear
"We're not there yet, but we're going somewhere," Johnson said. "And we're going to Brooklyn. We're not going to contract. We're going to Brooklyn."
No thanks
Outlaw for Artest maybe but you have to remember Artest makes about the same as Outlaw, is significantly older, on the decline (and has been) and is crazy/ Put him a hometown team with no pressure or expectations and I think he would lose it.
by Jack Handy Jr on Feb 4, 2011 1:23 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah.
Having both Artest and Outlaw’s contracts is a scary thought.
"I don’t think we want to be like the Knicks. I think we’d more like to resemble the Lakers." - Mikhail Prokhorov
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At least enjoy the Russian websites linked on side.
Seems like Russia has more freedom of the internet than the USA.
Or do they just have more pretty women?
Agreed.
I don’t want two projects at once.
"I don’t think we want to be like the Knicks. I think we’d more like to resemble the Lakers." - Mikhail Prokhorov
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I'm torn
You can’t help but be amazed at the talent of both Favors and Jones on the same court. Still, it’s not the fact that we would still be a losing team, it’s the fact that your building a team around two passive athletes, Brook, and Devin – still no leader.
high school vids from hoopmixtape don’t count, imo. perry jones hasn’t done anything at baylor that has “amazed” me.
that team is a mess.
I can’t blame Perry Jones for all of it. He shouldn’t be playing center and I’ve been impressed with his strength. He doesn’t take over, but he never seems like he is in the flow of the game. He’s really intriguing.
Nah
Just finished the 1st half. Quincy Acy & Perry Jones got absolutely destroyed inside by the Morris twins (13-14 FG). That was embarrassing.
Brent Musburger: “I hope Perry Jones and Josh Selby like school, because they really need to stay another year.”
People should wait until after the trade deadline to focus on the draft.
Nets FO has no intention of Tanking to get a better draft pick. This isn’t 2009-2010 (Been there done that).
And it is likely, that even if Nuggets don’t trade Melo to Nets, than King will do something (right before deadline) to produce more wins for Nets.
If present team is on track for 25 wins, the improved team may be good for over 30 wins, which won’t get a top 5 draft pick unless there is luck of the Table Tennis balls.
It wasn't a fact, but fans are suggesting that what happened last year will happen again - some are already rooting for fewer wins.
What was true is that NetsDaily fans including myself were hoping for the worst record, but not the worst of all time.
In the end they came close to Minny’s 15 wins. Had we been tied with Minny down the stretch we might have found out more
if Nets really wanted to win.
It can easily be argued that players quit on Kiki. Devin in particular was not disappointed after losses. He knew better than anyone what the FO expected.
So while no one ever told anyone to tank a game, it was understood that Nets FO wanted the top pick of the draft.
I think CDR should write a tell all book about what really happened last year
"We're not there yet, but we're going somewhere," Johnson said. "And we're going to Brooklyn. We're not going to contract. We're going to Brooklyn."
this whole idea of tanking
is totally bananas
it might be the dumbest thing in the world to talk about. Doesn’t happen, shouldn’t happen.
done
imagine something extremely witty here
there wasn't?
Didn’t you say kiki had ulterior motives
by HabPSU on Feb 4, 2011 1:35 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
there wasn't?
Didn’t you say kiki had ulterior motives
by HabPSU on Feb 4, 2011 1:35 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
He was trying to prove that Yi could be good and he might have valued winning that argument as much as winning games.
No one doubts that down the stretch, the players wanted to win and stop all the negative publicity.
Still, Kiki may have stuck with Yi for personal reasons.
Thorn even complained one time, in a quote by DaveD. on Yi’s return from injury, when he played 40 minutes.
Our guy could be Jordan Hamilton !
If we pick later on and Barnes and Sullinger stay in.
6’7" 220 – Texas – 19 pts , 2.5 assists
A big athletic SG in the vain of Jason Richardson and Vincer Carter that can slide down to the 3 if need be.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R4UhwkLXF7M
He’s BAD , he’s really really BAD.
"This isn’t fantasy or rotisserie basketball. Why would Denver want Outlaw? Would you?"
No my friend.
Outlaw is BAD, really really BAD!
by Doesthishurt on Feb 4, 2011 12:34 PM EST up reply actions
it amazes me
that people here dont take into account what we have reported: both King and Marks flew to the Midwest within a week of each other to scout Sullinger.
shouldn’t that tell you something about who the Nets like?
no :P
Official Member of the "DO NOT TRADE DERRICK FAVORS" Movement
Why not? Not like we're overflowing with great big men
Sullinger is the scorer that Favors isn’t and the rebounder that Lopez isn’t.
+1
was about to right the same thing. I watched Sullinger last night and wasn’t impressed. He’ll be a good NBA player, but as a top five pick I’m looking for more. Some teams like Washington may be high on Sullinger, I don’t think it’s out of the question that we would like to show an interest.
We draft Sullinger at five (I don’t think he’ll last that long) and package him and picks to Washington for Irving and we’re in business.
But is there anything more in this draft?
This is not looking like a very good draft, there isn’t even one guy that has set himself apart from the rest. Is there a superstar in this draft?
On nbadraft.net
He projected as #1! Doubt we’ll get him.
by Belarus4life on Feb 4, 2011 12:46 PM EST up reply actions
Drafting Sullinger would make for an interesting off season
Who would we keep? Would we still adamantly want Hump back?
Two Jared Sullinger profiles
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/12/26/sports/ncaabasketball/26buckeyes.html?_r=1&ref=sports
Jared Sullinger’s averages of 17.5 points and 10.1 rebounds are a big reason No. 2 Ohio State has emerged as a favorite to win the national title despite losing the national player of the year Evan Turner to the N.B.A. draft. Credit an impressive lineage with molding the 6-foot-9, 280-pound Sullinger’s intangibles — crafty game, selfless attitude and low-post relentlessness.
College basketball experts have pegged Sullinger as one of the favorites for national player of the year, opposing coaches describe him with words such as "unstoppable" and NBA analysts predict he’ll be one of the top five players taken in this summer’s draft.
So I like Sullinger… I also like Favors. My question is, if we draft Sullinger, what do we do with him? DO we trade one of our big’s, if so which one? We cant have all 3, it just doesn’t make sense.
Avery on if he dreams about getting Melo: "No. What I dream about, honest to God truth, I dream about our center getting 10 rebounds.'
Hump isn't on next years team right now.
We’ll have one Power Forward when the draft rolls around. (unless they extend Hump).
"This isn’t fantasy or rotisserie basketball. Why would Denver want Outlaw? Would you?"
Favors and Sully can both rebound though.
"This isn’t fantasy or rotisserie basketball. Why would Denver want Outlaw? Would you?"
Why not?
96 minutes for the PF and C position. If you give say 35 to Lopez, you could still give both Favors and Sullinger 30 minutes apiece
Yeah but when you draft 1-3 in the draft you should NOT be looking to draft a back up. Its a pure waste. Wait for both of them to develop then you have to hurt one because you cant have 3 bigs on the court in the 4th like that. Well I mean you can, but it wont happen.
You must have starters, and you must have backups.
Avery on if he dreams about getting Melo: "No. What I dream about, honest to God truth, I dream about our center getting 10 rebounds.'
Odom is not a big, he plays the 3. You can call that a big, but Sullinger and Favors wont be guarding Lebron, or Durant, or any other 3.
Avery on if he dreams about getting Melo: "No. What I dream about, honest to God truth, I dream about our center getting 10 rebounds.'
Odom plays significantly more PF this year than SF, he's averaging 10 rpg
Look at that frontline:
Gasol: 11 rpg
Odom: 10 rpg
Bynum: 7 rpg
Yeah, because he is versatile. Sullinger and Favors are “bigs.” You know it and I know it, Favors Sullinger and Lopez will not share the court together at once. It will not happen, I don’t see any coach in the league even attempting it.
Avery on if he dreams about getting Melo: "No. What I dream about, honest to God truth, I dream about our center getting 10 rebounds.'
So why is that a problem?
If you can have a great big men on the court for the entire 96 minutes of the PF/C, instead of only 60 minutes, why is that bad?
Because of what happened in Utah.
Specifically the fact that we would be obtaining 2 parts of that 3 headed monster with the first 3 picks in the draft, so like I said, it seems very odd, and a huge waste to have a horrific losing season, and end up with a guy(probably favors from the looks of it) that wont even be playing in the final minutes of a game that counts for something. I would much rather trade one of those bigs away for a player we are going to rely heavily on. We can get quality backups with the later picks in the draft.
Avery on if he dreams about getting Melo: "No. What I dream about, honest to God truth, I dream about our center getting 10 rebounds.'
I agree with this.
We need to get a starter out of all this losing.
Irving
P.Jones
T.Jones
Derrick Williams
Barnes
They could all start for us and they all have potential.
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by Maxyboy on Feb 4, 2011 1:24 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
A game isn't made up of the final minutes, it's made up of 48 minutes
We aren’t talking about using a guy for only 15 minutes a game here, you don’t need to have a 4 man big rotation, and even then, factors like foul trouble (favors) go in.
There are your main guys, then there are backups. Would you want to hang around a team if you knew you were splitting minutes like that? Its not like these guys have any real connections to teams. They don’t sign contracts in blood, its just business, and they need to make sure their careers are long lasting.
Makes perfect sense from a Team ownership perspective, who wouldnt love to have Bryant and Wade off the bench? But they wouldnt want that.
Avery on if he dreams about getting Melo: "No. What I dream about, honest to God truth, I dream about our center getting 10 rebounds.'
How are you getting shafted in minutes if you're getting 30 minutes a game?
There are literally 96 minutes for the PF/C position. Divide that to 3 players. Isn’t that comparable to what most starters in the NBA get?
Easy… because you aren’t thinking about the the fact that its draft spot 1,2, or 3. I think its wrong to draft a guy at that high a spot with the idea that he is going to be OK not wanting star minutes. I don’t want to take a guy that high that doesn’t demand to be out there on the court as many minutes as possible. Any other number in the draft is fine, but a pick that high is so much more valued.
Avery on if he dreams about getting Melo: "No. What I dream about, honest to God truth, I dream about our center getting 10 rebounds.'
Same thing happened happened in Orlando to a slightly lesser extent with Gortat. He wasn’t getting any minutes, and he is showing he deserved more minutes. It was widely known that he was not happy there. It might have worked a little bit better for Orlando having him back up Dwight, but these are human beings. Gortat knew if he got more then 10 min a game he could actually do something with his career. No sense in harboring a guy like that when you can trade up for something better and get a guy to replace Dwight thats mroe of a typical backup… kind of like Petro.
Avery on if he dreams about getting Melo: "No. What I dream about, honest to God truth, I dream about our center getting 10 rebounds.'
Gortat didn't work because of style
You want to play with Dwight, and not just behind him you have to be able to shoot threes. He can’t shoot threes
Yeah but the point is about the player, not if it would be nice to have 2 good players at a position. If a player knows he should be out there more, there is nothing that can be done about that but a trade, like Boozer and Millsap.
Avery on if he dreams about getting Melo: "No. What I dream about, honest to God truth, I dream about our center getting 10 rebounds.'
Ive got no problem if when our selection is up
we draft either a PF or a C if that is the best player on the board. And if u look at the draft this year, if these guys come out the top players are predominantly bigs.
I think its obvious by the way they treated Favors they dont have 100% belief hes the answer and we can see by watching Lopez that he is just a good player, not someone u can build a franchise around..
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Another point is, if a problem comes up, then all you do is make a trade
You’re dealing young talent with a lot of potential, you can get something good with that, perhaps even better talent than if you had drafted a wing or a pg
I think it has to come down to that. You have to take a guy like Sullinger, then just trade for either a lot of pieces, or trade for a starter at another position.
You all know which big of those 3 I would send packing. Would probably net a huge return too.
Avery on if he dreams about getting Melo: "No. What I dream about, honest to God truth, I dream about our center getting 10 rebounds.'
Being a backup doesn't mean you can't be every bit as valuable to your team
Doesn’t LA have Bynum, Gasol, and Odom?
Utah had Okur, Boozer, and Millsap; all of whom had vital roles
EXACTLY.
Didn’t you follow all the turmoil there last year? Everyone knew Millsap should have been getting more minutes, and Boozer knew it too. It created a very awkward situation, with a guy like Millsap spending the 4th on the bench.
(Odum is a terrible example)
Avery on if he dreams about getting Melo: "No. What I dream about, honest to God truth, I dream about our center getting 10 rebounds.'
Boozer / Millsap worked
But it came to a point where Boozer was getter older and his pay was going to be too hefty. When and if that time comes , Favors or Sully could help land a good player.
Odom rarely plays the 3. The Lakers are good because they can have these big combos on the floor at all times -
Bynum – Gasol
Bynum – Odom
Gasol – Odom
We can do it too , but in our own way.
Lopez – Favors
Lopez – Sullinger
Favors – Sullinger
"This isn’t fantasy or rotisserie basketball. Why would Denver want Outlaw? Would you?"
Lamar plays a lot of 3
when Bynum is healthy.
The problem for the Lakers is that he is hurt a lot which is why Lamar plays a lot of th 4. However, when Bynum is healthy you see a lot of all 3 players playing at the same time.
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I haven't really seem him at the 3 in years
After Ariza , then Artest …. nah. I can’t seem to remember a time when I’ve seen all 3 of them on the court together recently.
Maybe I’m wrong , but maybe there are stats we can look up somewhere?
"This isn’t fantasy or rotisserie basketball. Why would Denver want Outlaw? Would you?"
Again, it doesn’t matter what he plays. The point is, he CAN play other positions? Can Favors play the 3? No. Can Odom play the 3? Yes.
Can Al Horford play the 3-5? Probably. Could Dwight? No.
Can Kevin Martin guard guys at the 3 like Lebron or Durant just because another 2 Guard like VC or Kobe can?
Avery on if he dreams about getting Melo: "No. What I dream about, honest to God truth, I dream about our center getting 10 rebounds.'
You're really reaching here.
We don’t need Sullinger to “maybe” play the 3. James , Outlaw , and the inevitable Wilson Chandler cashing in can do the job !
"This isn’t fantasy or rotisserie basketball. Why would Denver want Outlaw? Would you?"
See above. You are missing my point. I never once said it couldn’t work, but we would be better served trading one of our bigs for say, a starting 3, and then acquiring a backup big.
Avery on if he dreams about getting Melo: "No. What I dream about, honest to God truth, I dream about our center getting 10 rebounds.'
So what if he can or cannot?
When crunch time comes, more often than not, it isn’t Odom at the 3. It’s Artest. Does that stop Odom from producing a double double? Does that make him any less valuable?
In 2009-10
Gasol averaged 37 minutes a game, 18 ppg 11 rpg
Bynum averaged 30 mpg. 15 pg 8 rpg
Odom averaged 32 mpg. 11 ppg 10 rpg
And they only shared the court for a combined 77 minutes.
Yeah, so lets draft a guy with the first pick in the draft to play 30 min a game. Thats the problem! Nothing else! The Lakers system works! But Kobe played 38 min a game, and Gasol played 37!
If we get Sullinger it would be with the 1-3 pick, and thats generous, so now with Favors(3), Sullinger(1-3) you want one of them to get 30 min? Or do you want a pick that high getting 38? I want a pick that high getting 38! Its the value of the said pick that is being lost here… it can be better served trading Favors or Lopez.
Avery on if he dreams about getting Melo: "No. What I dream about, honest to God truth, I dream about our center getting 10 rebounds.'
Again, we have a valued pick. Dont forget all the players we are talking about on those other teams were with late picks. We cant waste this value.
We can get the best of both worlds.
Avery on if he dreams about getting Melo: "No. What I dream about, honest to God truth, I dream about our center getting 10 rebounds.'
Not at all. But lets say we take out Bynum, and we put a guy like Dirk in his place.
Say it was a slick trade, that left them with the same major pieces, but they lost draft picks and nobodies. Now who do you play?
Avery on if he dreams about getting Melo: "No. What I dream about, honest to God truth, I dream about our center getting 10 rebounds.'
Why is it wrong to only play Dirk ~30 minutes a game?
And we’re not even talking about allstars here in Lopez and Favors
Why would you not want a young stud playing 38 min? Forget Dirk, he is old and could use the rest. But we are a young team, and there is no reason why a player shouldn’t want to claw his way to as many min as he can take.
Avery on if he dreams about getting Melo: "No. What I dream about, honest to God truth, I dream about our center getting 10 rebounds.'
Because reducing minutes can lead to less fatigue and greater efficiency
and also because you don’t NEED to play 38 minutes a game. The player who plays the most minutes for the Spurs? Tony Parker at 33. Manu is at 32. Duncan at 29. RJ at 31. Blair at 21. Neal at 20. McDyess at 17.
What you need to do is win, winners keep players. Winning makes you think less about whether you’re getting 32 or 38 minutes.
But if he doesn't get a chip at Ohio State , he might stay in right?
And we may not even get a top 5 pick. He definitely looks like the backup plan if Irving and the Jones boys are already picked. I suggested he would be great and a good fit , but people seem to love Favors and Hump (who isn’t on next years team right now).
My backup to the backup plan (Sullinger) in leaning towards Jordan Hamilton.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R4UhwkLXF7M
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C9J0MgiIh74
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"This isn’t fantasy or rotisserie basketball. Why would Denver want Outlaw? Would you?"
Everyone thinks they're staying in school
But it’s a different thing when there’s agents, family and friends advising you otherwise. People also talked about Wall staying in school, people also talked about Oden staying in school
You pretty much need two superstars to win championships
Anyway, I see similarities to the Pacers.
Lopez = Smits
Favors = Dale Davis
We “just” need a Reggie Miller (hey, it’s to type, at least!) and I would like an improvement on Detlef. Don’t know if Terrence Jones would ultimately be better than Detlef Shremp.
Dear Mr. Prokhorov: While I blame you for letting the Melo trade process get to a point where it was ruining your current basketball team, I commend you for at least having enough sense to stop the bleeding. Now, hopefully you've learned from this experience and won't repeat the same mistake(s) in the future.
Is Sullinger similar to Antonio Davis?
;0) I’ll take this analogy all the way while I’m at it.
Dear Mr. Prokhorov: While I blame you for letting the Melo trade process get to a point where it was ruining your current basketball team, I commend you for at least having enough sense to stop the bleeding. Now, hopefully you've learned from this experience and won't repeat the same mistake(s) in the future.
Those are pretty good comparisons for Favors and Lopez
"This isn’t fantasy or rotisserie basketball. Why would Denver want Outlaw? Would you?"
Spelling corrections
Detlef Schrempf, and “it’s easy to type” we just need a Reggie Miller. haha. Much harder to actually execute.
Dear Mr. Prokhorov: While I blame you for letting the Melo trade process get to a point where it was ruining your current basketball team, I commend you for at least having enough sense to stop the bleeding. Now, hopefully you've learned from this experience and won't repeat the same mistake(s) in the future.
Is that supposed to be a joke?
Fire Johnson and hire Brown - I'm telling you Thorn was smoking somethin' when he let Brown slip away in the night.
by diehardNFFLbarnone on Feb 4, 2011 5:30 PM EST up reply actions
Rik Smits' career numbers
Note the rebounding numbers. Similar to Brook’s.
Dear Mr. Prokhorov: While I blame you for letting the Melo trade process get to a point where it was ruining your current basketball team, I commend you for at least having enough sense to stop the bleeding. Now, hopefully you've learned from this experience and won't repeat the same mistake(s) in the future.
thanks for pointing out why the pacers could never get by the bulls/knicks
and eventually lost to the lakers when they got there
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by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Feb 4, 2011 4:20 PM EST up reply actions
Monta Ellis
"You can spend minutes, hours, days weeks or even months overanalyzing a situation; trying to put the pieces together, justifying what would’ve, could’ve happened – or you can just leave the pieces on the floor and move the **** on."
-Tupac Amaru Shakur
Well I for one do not think our rebuilding process should be only
focused on the draft, some of these kids might stay in school and screw us over, I still think we need to make a trade. I want to let Uzoh, D-james, and Favors grow to see what we have. I think I’m higher on Uzoh than a lot of people here think he could be a big part of our future if he’s still here, I wouldn’t mind building him up into a starter for us.
"We're not there yet, but we're going somewhere," Johnson said. "And we're going to Brooklyn. We're not going to contract. We're going to Brooklyn."
Keep battling Favors lol
Johnson isn’t pushing Favors to show his fiery personality. At least not yet. He sees that Favors is playing hard, battling underneath against older, stronger men, and he’s happy with the progression.
"We're not there yet, but we're going somewhere," Johnson said. "And we're going to Brooklyn. We're not going to contract. We're going to Brooklyn."
Avery cracks me up when talking about Favors he said he wants 5-6 dunks
This can be a game that gives Favors that extra push to break out of his shell, once you see those bright lights you want more of it. I think Favors being around all those other great players will be good for him he should do that behind the back left shoulder to right hand at the waist dunk.
"We're not there yet, but we're going somewhere," Johnson said. "And we're going to Brooklyn. We're not going to contract. We're going to Brooklyn."
Haha spot on:
Whether he’s jamming an alley-oop or getting whistled for a bogus foul, Favors maintains the same even-keeled expression.
Refs don’t give him a break and blows whistle as soon as theres slightest body contact. And favors always adressee of the call. I myself would have gotten couple technical fouls by disagreeing, but Favors keeps his stone face expression like he’s under influence.
Can’t wait for that means side to come out!
Has nothing to do with the refs though. Brook got shafted by the refs his first year, no matter how much complaining he howled out.
Avery on if he dreams about getting Melo: "No. What I dream about, honest to God truth, I dream about our center getting 10 rebounds.'
I understand "rookie' status. It's ok with me.
Just wish Derrick would show some disagreement when the foul is totally bogus.
He could turn into a Garnet type and go completely mental.
I like his tude, he is reserved and respectful, a real Tim Duncan type.
Avery on if he dreams about getting Melo: "No. What I dream about, honest to God truth, I dream about our center getting 10 rebounds.'
In reality tho
Duncan isn’t that reserved he’s very fiery if you watch him, Wilson Chandler is reserved.
"We're not there yet, but we're going somewhere," Johnson said. "And we're going to Brooklyn. We're not going to contract. We're going to Brooklyn."
I hope and I think it will change
As he gets older I remember David Lee getting more demonstrative as he has gotten older.
"We're not there yet, but we're going somewhere," Johnson said. "And we're going to Brooklyn. We're not going to contract. We're going to Brooklyn."
I couldn't care less about demonstration and emotion
It’s about the fire in your play, not your face. Look at Blake Griffin. A million dunks and what does he do after each and every one? Absolutely nothing. But he plays like he’s on the warpath. You can feel the attitude radiating from him without him having to shout or anything.
I agreed with you about taking a big in the draft.
Despite the fact that we would have three bigs, we still need another imo. PT for a rookie could easily be around 30 minutes and who’s to say that Favors doesn’t stay out of foul trouble next year. Best case scenario if we drafted another big would be if the three we had panned out, we would be competitive, be attractive to FAs and have a great trading chip for a star that wants out in a S&T or straight trade. However, I’m not sold on Sullinger yet. He looks good now and he will come out if he is the #1 pick but I’ll wait until the end of the NCAA tourney before I commit to him. I don’t like Big 10 guys in general unless they take their team far in the end.
if Denver comes crawling back and we offer up 3 first rounders and say no way you’re getting Favors..it would be an EPIC move by Prokhorov.
by NetsKiNG on Jan 20, 2011 10:01 PM EST up reply actions
Our savior, make it happen.
sullinger is a slob i really hope cleveland takes him and tanks their franchise
if we dont get one of the jones’ sign wilson chandler
Off topic, but I just read on Yahoo that 40% of first picks end up in the HOF
and it lists C-Webb as a shoe in for the hall. I just dont see it. Can someone set me straight? I see him more like Pettite in MLB. Really, really good, but not quite HOF.
"We all have to decide for ourself how much sin we can live with"
I think he will be
being part of the Fab Five puts him over the top IMO (even if they’re no longer officially recognized by the NCAA). maybe not first ballot, but I think he’ll get in, he’s one of the best passing big men of all time.
he was rookie of the year in golden state
put up big numbers in don nelson’s messed up system where he had to play a lot of center. in washington he put up big stats with juwan howard and rasheed wallace but management was not committed to winning. In sacramento he was the best passing pivot man in the game. but he had that terrible knee injury in 03 or 04 that ruined his career. he couldve easily played like a star up until the 07 season
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by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Feb 4, 2011 4:25 PM EST up reply actions
he might get in eventually
i do think he’s a LOCK HIM IN type of guy, but he put up big numbers, was the best player on a perennial winner in sacramento, big time college player, etc.
Harrison Barnes
I wouldn’t be so quick to write this guy off. He was the consensus number 1 going into the season and after a slow start he has really been playing great lately. He has all the tools you could want from a star player but he tends to be too passive. If he keeps up this recent play theres no way he wont be back in the discussion at the top of the draft by seasons end. I like Irving a lot but then you’d have to trade Harris and who knows what you could get for him. I like Terrence Jones a lot too but I’d take Barnes over him. I’d also stay away from the big guys just because we already have our bigs we desperately need wing players. That goes against the whole best player available player theory but I’m not so sure there will be a general consensus over who is the best player between the top 5 or 6.
Have you watched him the last two games.
He is a much better shooter than Williams. I think Barnes may be a great fit for us. I need to see more from him but I definitely wouldn’t write him off.
did you see what you just typed
two games? you are gonna suggest a top 5 pick for a guy after two good games?
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by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Feb 4, 2011 9:25 PM EST up reply actions
You guys really fail to realize the fact that unless we get Melo or unload outlaw's contract on someone we are screwed!!!!
BIGTIME!!!
If we overpay for a Jeff Green or Wilson Chandler that IS NOT WHAT THIS TEAM NEEDS!!!! LIKE BILLY KING SAID WE NEED A SUPERSTAR PLAIN AND SIMPLE!!!!
SMH and best believe that original two team trade between the Nuggets and the Nets will be revisited by the deadline because the Knicks are not gonna shell out the players needed when they can wait for the offseason and the Nuggets are not going to lose out on getting “Lebroned” and having to hear it from their fans moving forward!!! But it is what it is I’ll let the deadline speak for itself!!! No matter how much I don’t want to admit it yeah OUR PLAN B SUCKS and there will have to be some ego swallowing on both sides to just get it over with but at least we are back in a position of power if and when they call…..
Superstar from draft is cool
but make sure you give him the opprtunity to become a superstar. I just dont think they gave T-Will a long enough chance.
by Marquise Johnson on Feb 4, 2011 5:18 PM EST reply actions
Uh...HELLO..!!!!!
The superstar is right underneath our noses………STEVEN GRAHAM………….He is finally getting playing time….He has slowly , very slowly worked his way into the starting line up and he is finally starting to put up point………Sweet Shot……..Game winning three and not afraid to take it to the basket , what I still haven’t figured out…….He definitely needs to take more shots……Every offensive play should be run around him or away from him…..Let’s see what he’s got before we trade for a player like Melo who would eat up Grahams minutes……
Bad draft
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/writers/ian_thomsen/02/04/top.2011.draft.picks/index.html
The last four drafts have produced at least one elite prospect, but that trend appears to be braking to a full stop now.
“This is not a year to have the No. 1 pick in the draft,” a team president said.
Added a team executive with a successful track record in the draft: “I can’t tell you who the top-five picks are. I don’t see how anyone in this group can be distinguished right now.”
I would welcome a trade for VC...
Work out a trade involving the expirings of Murphy and Vujacic and start VC at the 3. Might as well get him since cap space will be pointless with the poor FA crop this year and since the rest of the roster is so young it would help to add a veteran and leader like VC. Dude can still ball and dropped 33 tonight. Could also add in other players to get Gortat as a backup center too.
by NetsROC on Feb 5, 2011 3:42 AM EST via mobile reply actions
Why wouldn't they?
They are in 10th in the Western Conference and they would be able to dump two sizable long-term contracts for expirings to help them start their rebuilding process by getting them well under the cap.
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