Power Rankings: The D-Will Effect
by Net Income on Feb 28, 2011 1:02 PM EST
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PrintThe Nets have lost five straight, including two games with Deron Williams at the point. Not a problem. Marc Stein moves the Nets up four places to #23, while John Schuhmann keeps them at #25.
Stein remarks, "They know there's a long way to go before D-Will warms to the idea of Brooklyn. Yet as risky as the deal was, given the assets surrendered for a guy who can leave in 16 months, they couldn't say no."
Not that the Nets will see the real D-Will this season, writes Schuhmann. "He dished out 29 assists, but bothered by a strained tendon in his right wrist, Williams shot just 8-for-25, including 0-for-7 from 3-point range in his first two games with New Jersey."
Stats guys John Hollinger and Jeff Sagarin don't the future influence their decisions. Hollinger has them at #26, Sagarin at #23. Meanwhile, David Aldridge joins Hollinger in saying it's too early to tell if the Nets are winners or losers at the deadline. Wait 17 months. Oh Okay.
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D-WILL= Power Rankings Swager
Get this man some help!
At starting point guard for your New Jersey Nets Deronnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn Willllllllllllllllllllliamssssssssssssssssssssssss
Lopez: "I'll stop being lazy and go after every rebound"
I am loving where the Nets are at
we either get help and resign or trade him to a team like Orlando get rid of Outlaw’s contract and go from there.
The Nets are in a great position sure it might be a while if ever if they get another star but they could go the direction of hawks or pistons.
so d will eithers stays here or he is on the move again either way
R.I.P. To Dwayne McDuffie for making milestones. GodSpeed
by killa kadafi191 on Feb 28, 2011 1:10 PM EST reply actions
I'm just happy we have a negotiation chip.
We have somebody signed who can either attract nice free agents, or if traded can bring back quality. This is soo much different than trying to sell someone on what we are trying to do from the outside.Still early in the D-Will reign but we can agree that this is just the beginning .
At starting point guard for your New Jersey Nets Deronnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn Willllllllllllllllllllliamssssssssssssssssssssssss
Lopez: "I'll stop being lazy and go after every rebound"
which why I'm not even trippin
we can sign him or if he wants to go to a better team trade him to magic and attach outlaw with him and throw up the deuce at him.
it’s all good
R.I.P. To Dwayne McDuffie for making milestones. GodSpeed
by killa kadafi191 on Feb 28, 2011 1:32 PM EST up reply actions
how you figure?
R.I.P. To Dwayne McDuffie for making milestones. GodSpeed
by killa kadafi191 on Feb 28, 2011 1:33 PM EST up reply actions
Because we will have lost the best PG in the NBA?
Last time that happened to us, we didn’t sniff the playoffs for years.
Section 18, Row 7 at The Rock!
yea but only way we trade him if
we don’t improve or if we think he will leave still leave. it’s better than losing him for nothing. so the nets are good either way.
true signing outlaw and others might have put them in a bind but the Nets at worst can trade a player who will bring back many assets and take outlaw with him as well
R.I.P. To Dwayne McDuffie for making milestones. GodSpeed
by killa kadafi191 on Feb 28, 2011 2:10 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah?
Who is the assets on the Magic that you are enamored with? And draft picks?
Section 18, Row 7 at The Rock!
nelson bass and get back ryan
honestly that’s better than nothing
R.I.P. To Dwayne McDuffie for making milestones. GodSpeed
by killa kadafi191 on Feb 28, 2011 2:29 PM EST up reply actions
the nets can basically pull a denver since they have deron now
R.I.P. To Dwayne McDuffie for making milestones. GodSpeed
by killa kadafi191 on Feb 28, 2011 2:31 PM EST up reply actions
that would be a weak return for deron
nelson and bass are decent but this is deron williams
I want to see this lineup at times tonight, to bad Williams wrist is hurting him would be more potent
Uzoh
Williams
Morrow
James
Lopez
"We're not there yet, but we're going somewhere," Johnson said. "And we're going to Brooklyn. We're not going to contract. We're going to Brooklyn."
The suns don't play regular lineups
They have stretch 4’s James would be good in that role guarding Frye and whoever, defensively they have some quick dudes, stick Uzoh on Nash or Aaron Brooks stick D-will on VC or whoever else.
"We're not there yet, but we're going somewhere," Johnson said. "And we're going to Brooklyn. We're not going to contract. We're going to Brooklyn."
were not good enough
"We're not there yet, but we're going somewhere," Johnson said. "And we're going to Brooklyn. We're not going to contract. We're going to Brooklyn."
Defense and scoring
"We're not there yet, but we're going somewhere," Johnson said. "And we're going to Brooklyn. We're not going to contract. We're going to Brooklyn."
He will not leave
Billy King and Proky will bever let this guy walk.
Therefore they understand that big trades and off season moves will absolutley happen. Proky has this championship in 5 yrs plan.
No way he lets this guy walk. Nooo way
Do not be shocked if 10-12 guys on this team are brand new again next year.
“in proky we trust”
Things to look for:
-Djames 12-16 ppg
-Brook 20-25 ppg (maybe a REB or two)
-Hump Dub-Dub every night.
-Anything from b wright.
Follow on twitter @mviola24
by Mike Viola on Feb 28, 2011 1:30 PM EST via mobile reply actions
I don't think he will leave either.
he will either be signed or traded.
either way the Nets are good
R.I.P. To Dwayne McDuffie for making milestones. GodSpeed
by killa kadafi191 on Feb 28, 2011 1:33 PM EST up reply actions
He will not leave
Billy King and Proky will bever let this guy walk.
Therefore they understand that big trades and off season moves will absolutley happen. Proky has this championship in 5 yrs plan.
No way he lets this guy walk. Nooo way
Do not be shocked if 10-12 guys on this team are brand new again next year.
“in proky we trust”
Things to look for:
-Djames 12-16 ppg
-Brook 20-25 ppg (maybe a REB or two)
-Hump Dub-Dub every night.
-Anything from b wright.
Follow on twitter @mviola24
by Mike Viola on Feb 28, 2011 1:33 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Sorry for double post.
Im just so pumped for tonights game
Things to look for:
-Djames 12-16 ppg
-Brook 20-25 ppg (maybe a REB or two)
-Hump Dub-Dub every night.
-Anything from b wright.
Follow on twitter @mviola24
by Mike Viola on Feb 28, 2011 1:35 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
D-Will won't leave
but he wants to win & needs help
Outlaw, Petro, and the rest won’t cut it.
Williams/Farmar/Uzoh -→Excellent
??/Morrow -—> Need a starter
James/Outlaw -→> Need to get rid of Outlaw, move James to the bench and sign a starter
?/???? --Nobody home unless we resign the hump
Lopez/Petro -→ Need a better back up C. Keep Lopez then trade him for Howard if possible.
In Prokhorov & Billy King WE TRUST.
8 > 3
DH12 OR BUST!
Official Member of the "Travis OutLOL Society". 5 years, 35 Million Dollars worth of lulz.
Farmar isn't needed anymore with that contract and playing 20-25 minutes anymore
I would flip him and something something else for a solid swingman or picks and save money for other guys, that could help us out more in free agency like Chandler.
"We're not there yet, but we're going somewhere," Johnson said. "And we're going to Brooklyn. We're not going to contract. We're going to Brooklyn."
If you can move Farmar
in the offseason it would be a good move. The Nets can try to get a cheap veteran backup PG.
WRONG!
I like Farmar. He fits here and likes it here. He is a top back up pg. Essentially your backup Qb. Very important position on a team with a pg dominated offense. Dude makes 4 mil a year?
I want D Will at about 35-37 minutes a game. We need him strong and potent for end game and end of season situations. Having him play 40+ minutes will be an Epic FAIL.
We also need to keep the HUMP. As with chuck Hayes big baby will be able to guard other centers. So he can start at pf and then play C. When Brook gets in foul trouble.
Hump Morrow and Farmar need to stay. That is our bench. Along with D James.
We should have five roster spots for new guys. And we will be a top destination for players who still want to actually PLAY. All the top teams are pretty stacked on the wings. And of all the remaining teams we have the best pg. Avery is a defensive coach. Defense
Wins and winning players know that and will want to be here.
The JETS/NETS are coming!
by MrBDown on Feb 28, 2011 3:22 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
But the point is we REALLY don't need him with the best PG in the game playing most of the minutes
by bronxbombers2 on Feb 28, 2011 5:50 PM EST up reply actions
Not if he's eating up potential cap space
Farmar: $4,000,000 average for 3 years
Uzoh: $473,604
That extra 3.5mil could make a big difference, especially considering Farmar has been hurt multiple times and Uzoh looks like he can defend, which is what I’d rather have out of a backup PG to be honest.
by bronxbombers2 on Mar 1, 2011 3:52 PM EST up reply actions
dwill
Whos ever at the game tonight when dwill is shooting freethrows everybody chant MVP!
by NetsMetsJets4life on Feb 28, 2011 1:53 PM EST via mobile reply actions
here is a piece a rocket fan emailed to me
But did they?W
hile predicting a player’s future is no more than a guessing game at best, I have strong doubts Williams will stay with New Jersey past the end of the 2011-12 NBA season. Williams is a competitor. His will to succeed seems far too great to be the face of a franchise, along with the talented 7’0″ Brook Lopez, at the very start of a rebuilding process.
Because let’s face it, that is exactly what it is.
Will Mikhail Prokhorov find a way to lure other big name talents to town? What other players even seem poised to land in New Jersey in the near future who won’t be gobbled up by the likes of Miami, Boston, Chicago, and now New York with the Carmelo trade. David West? Greg Oden? Tim Duncan? Tony Parker? Nick Young? Joakim Noah? Glen Davis? Tayshaun Prince? Jamal Crawford? Who?
In all likelihood, the Deron Williams run in New Jersey will end before any homeruns are hit, maybe even before a single can be had. With the sun setting on the careers of Derek Fisher (Los Angeles Lakers) and Jason Kidd (Dallas Mavericks) in the West, you’ll see with these two franchises GMs looking to surround their already existing talent with an essential piece to the puzzle; and that key piece to continuing success is none other than Deron Williams.
Williams, as Charles Barkley noted, is "the best point guard in the NBA. Period."
He has the size, strength, and athletic ability to score on one end and defend on the other. Not Chris Paul or Steve Nash, who often overshadow Williams, offers that package.
Don’t hold your breath on Williams signing an extension Nets fans. He’s only a Net for now. Enjoy it while you can.
only thing I agree with is the nets have the best PG in the league and can flip that for so much, so I’m not even tripping if the team doesn’t improve in the off season because u still can flip deron
R.I.P. To Dwayne McDuffie for making milestones. GodSpeed
by killa kadafi191 on Feb 28, 2011 2:16 PM EST reply actions
Yup lol
This will be the Nets team until 2015, we have no cap space, or draft picks, or anything good the Brooklyn arena will never be built, everything is all talk. I honestly think peoples attitudes towards us has changed from the lovable looser Nets with the rich owner, into the Billionaire owner with a star who is looking to keep building. People don’t want us to be successful, I hear not only hate but FEAR honestly.
"We're not there yet, but we're going somewhere," Johnson said. "And we're going to Brooklyn. We're not going to contract. We're going to Brooklyn."
Can't wait to prove them all wrong
No one ever thought the Nets could go to the Finals back when we got Kidd.
I agree with the poster
how can we land another star? we don’t have any bargining chips. How do you turn down the Lakers and Mavs to play with no one in NJ/BK?
That article/blog post is typical media garbage. Overreacting, ignoring all salary cap rules, and just assuming every star goes to a major market. Before Amare, how many major stars went to NY? How many superstars in their prime have left their teams and went to teams that were already contenders? You need cap space to outright sign a free agent. That’s something that NO contending team has.
If that guy could tell me HOW Miami, Boston, Chicago, NY, LA, or Dallas is going to lure superstars in the near future with NO cap space, I would love to hear it. Maybe NY could maneuver their way to make enough room for DWill, but those other teams won’t have that luxury.
It's evident that people didn't want him here
The media I feel is upset because no one saw it coming. And that just turned Nets hate up a few notches. I don’t think I have ever seen so much hate for a team by the media in any sport.
People keep saying we are years away. But what was Clevelands record last year? One player made the difference. The Knicks are only a few games better than last year but the homerism in the Media makes it look like they were contending for years.
Deron Williams, Brooklyn and PROKY make the Nets a destination PERIOD. LeBron had us on his infamous list, Amare mentioned us as a intriguing possibility and Melo used the threat if us to force his way to the Knicks. No one used or mentioned Memphis, Minnesota, Indiana, Utah, Cleveland, Detroit, Sacramento, Washington, Toronto or Philadelphia in the same regard. But still the perception is that we are irrelevant? If that isn’t a snow job I don’t know what is.
I think you can pretty much book Tayshun Prince here. He is done in Detroit. We are easy front runners on him. Jason Richardson is doable and my favorite reclamation project Michael Redd is out there too. All are Star level Players.
We will upgrade our wings this summer and be s serious lower seed playoff team next season. And people keep saying Brooklyn in 2 years. News Flash. The building will most likely be done by this time next year. Maybe not open to the public. But Deron and Co will have seen the inside of the Barclays center and will be able to spread the Gospel of it’s awesomeness to every NBA player.
X factor in our equation is Brook Lopez turning into a MAN. If goofy Brook turns into BROOKMAN superhero That alone should be enough. 23ppg 9rpg 2bpg will definitely push things into our favor.
For the first time in his career Brook has a teammate to push him. He will get better. Strength conditioning and footwork will get better.
DWILL
JRICH/MIKE REDD
TPRINCE
BIG BABY
LOPEZ
MAY NOT BE THE SEXY BIG NAME SUPERSTAR FLASH. BUT CAN BE A TEAM NO ONE WANTS TO SEE IN THE PLAYOFFS.
IF we have a team that was as good as utahs best team in the DWILL era playing in BK, Deron retires a Net.
The JETS/NETS are coming!
by MrBDown on Feb 28, 2011 3:06 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
the problem with that Deron has to feel that whatever team the Nets
put together can compete with the likes of the Heat Bulls or Knicks.
Heck if we don’t put a decent squad together we won’t be able to compete with the Hawks
R.I.P. To Dwayne McDuffie for making milestones. GodSpeed
by killa kadafi191 on Feb 28, 2011 3:08 PM EST up reply actions
I hope we don't have to trade him
I can’t see us getting anything back better than what we gave up to get him.
I hope so too but if the Nets have to they are good
true we won’t get nothing of equal value but as i said before. brandon bass nelson and anderson isn’t bad.
when you have the best PG in the league u can get a lot for that.
R.I.P. To Dwayne McDuffie for making milestones. GodSpeed
by killa kadafi191 on Feb 28, 2011 2:30 PM EST up reply actions
I think you feel the same way though he's not going anywhere wants he sees
Pictures of those new Brooklyn Jersey Prok’s crowd, the future being one call away from getting guys like Howard or West to maybe take lest money to play here with him, knowing they could get endorsement deals, I just don’t think you can leave what he will have in front of him in the next to years will be very impressive. Probably will get some Russian endorsements as well.
"We're not there yet, but we're going somewhere," Johnson said. "And we're going to Brooklyn. We're not going to contract. We're going to Brooklyn."
true but I think this is more about being
competitive. I’m not saying the Nets can’t do it but if they can’t then you can move Deron.
As I said before Deron will have to see a team here that can compete with the Knicks Heat and Bulls.
it’s not like the Nets have three years to put this team together. they have a year and some months
R.I.P. To Dwayne McDuffie for making milestones. GodSpeed
by killa kadafi191 on Feb 28, 2011 2:39 PM EST up reply actions
There is no way they trade him.
Prokhorov will not admit defeat by trading him. He will force him to choose between leaving for less money or staying and getting the most money possible.
I honestly don’t think it will come to that anyway. Billy King has done nothing but impress as the GM and I believe they will make some major moves that will make DWill happy enough to sign that extension.
i don't think trading him is admitting
defeat it just using another advantage that you have.
my thing is not getting him help but help he believes in.
He has to see a team here that can compete with Knicks, Bulls and Heat.
If he doesn’t see that he could leave. If Utah felt he would leave a team that he was with for years and players way better than ours. The Nets have to think the same way.
either give him the help he needs or flip for more players.
i’m not even worried cause either way the Nets win
R.I.P. To Dwayne McDuffie for making milestones. GodSpeed
by killa kadafi191 on Feb 28, 2011 2:35 PM EST up reply actions
Nice!
BergenBrennan Nets now selling DeronWilliams jerseys online and at 2nite’s home debut. also have 65-ft-by-45-ft banner up at hotel near Pru Center.
Section 18, Row 7 at The Rock!
Why?
Didn’t you see last night Heat v Knicks?
"We're not talking about me and Darko in the same sentence." - Chris Webber vs KAHN!
by caseycheesecake on Feb 28, 2011 2:58 PM EST up reply actions
I get the excitement,
but I don’t get what the point of that would be. They’re pretty happy with Melo and Amare.
"We're not talking about me and Darko in the same sentence." - Chris Webber vs KAHN!
by caseycheesecake on Feb 28, 2011 5:06 PM EST up reply actions
true
the nets need to be assured Deron will come back imagine the Nets do that and he leaves and goes to the knicks
R.I.P. To Dwayne McDuffie for making milestones. GodSpeed
by killa kadafi191 on Feb 28, 2011 3:06 PM EST up reply actions
Unless those jerseys are $40
I am going to wait for mine, because you cant beat $44.00 jersey.
Official Member of the "DO NOT TRADE DERRICK FAVORS" Movement
We have so much going forward
Picks cap space a big trading chip in Brook Lopez there are teams that COVET him. I think if we were to call the timberwolves depending what happens with the CBA and Franchise tag they would swap player knowing Love wasn’t coming back.
"We're not there yet, but we're going somewhere," Johnson said. "And we're going to Brooklyn. We're not going to contract. We're going to Brooklyn."
I am convinced Howard and D-Will will open the BK arena a year and a half from today
Prokhorov and Billy King will make it happen.
In Prokhorov & Billy King WE TRUST.
8 > 3
DH12 OR BUST!
Official Member of the "Travis OutLOL Society". 5 years, 35 Million Dollars worth of lulz.
I keep mentioning josh smith as a great place to start
What would it take to pry this guy.
By the way i live on long island and i have called every modells and dicks in the city snf jersy and long island for a dwill jersey. No one carries them, and the online is 4-6 weeks.
I cant sit courtside tonight. So my pops is picking one up for me. But very bad job by nets not getting this jersey out there faster. Melo was on shelves instantly
Things to look for:
-Djames 12-16 ppg
-Brook 20-25 ppg (maybe a REB or two)
-Hump Dub-Dub every night.
-Anything from b wright.
Follow on twitter @mviola24
by Mike Viola on Feb 28, 2011 2:56 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Josh Smith is my favorite non-Kings player in the NBA
"We're not talking about me and Darko in the same sentence." - Chris Webber vs KAHN!
by caseycheesecake on Feb 28, 2011 2:59 PM EST up reply actions
Meanwhile, David Aldridge joins Hollinger in saying it’s too early to tell if the Nets are winners or losers at the deadline. Wait 17 months. Oh Okay.
Snarky..
i agree u do have to wait but the nets win because either way they can resign
him or trade him
R.I.P. To Dwayne McDuffie for making milestones. GodSpeed
by killa kadafi191 on Feb 28, 2011 3:10 PM EST up reply actions
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