Game 59 - Nets @ Rockets - Saturday, February 26, 8:30
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The Nets make the short trip from San Antonio to Houston Saturday to face a team that went through a trade deadline remake bigger than the Nets. Out went Shane Battier and Aaron Brooks; in came Hasheem Thabeet, Goran Dragic and DeMarre Carroll. Draft picks moved too, but in terms of talent, Houston took a hit.
Still, the Rockets are only three games under .500 and four games out of a playoff spot, the Nets 14 under and nine and a half out.
Houston of course has two former Nets, Courtney Lee and Terrence Williams, on the roster. They competed against each other in New Jersey and now finally, Williams will join Lee in the rotation after being stuck at the end of the bench, tallying 25 DNP-CD's since mid-December.
- New Jersey Nets Game Notes - New Jersey Nets
- Houston Rockets Games Notes - Houston Rockets
- Getting Inside - New Jersey Nets - Sports Xchange
- Getting Inside - Houston Rockets - Sports Xchange
- Nets-Rockets Preview - Stats LLC
- Battier trade a loss for Budinger - Moisekapenda - Bower - FOX Sports Houston
- Rockets put focus on present after trade deadline deals - Jonathan Feigen - Houston Chronicle
- Houston Chronicle: T-Will moves into rotation - Rahat Huq - Red94
- Rockets notes: Adelman mum on future - Jonathan Feigen - Houston Chronicle
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I'm still not expecting much
I mean the spread is still -8.5, and no matter how much that changes we’re still coming off a game the night before… I just want to see more chemistry.
Improve pick and roll with Lopez
Start James and KEEP him there
Try Farmar at the point with DWill at the 2, I want to see a little more of this
If the game allows, see what our other pickups have to offer
Not saying he shouldn't be
But he is probably one of the best scoring options. I’m not asking him to start at the 2, just try it out a little
by bronxbombers2 on Feb 26, 2011 2:47 PM EST up reply actions
The Rockets' trade for T-Will
Is the most baffling of the last 12 months.
They traded for a kid they weren’t going to play, and then kept him after the trade deadline. It makes absolutely no sense.
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not at all
They gave up on a crappy pick for a lottery talent. The bought low and had nothing to lose with a move like this. It was a move for the future. And there is a reason why Morey traded away Brooks and Battier. That should free up some PT for TWill. Morey said last week he thinks Williams can play at an All-Star level. He has faith in the kid. I’m surprised that Adelamn wasn’t using him at all so far (now Morey is trying to force him to do so with those moves), but you also have to understand that a) they didn’t give up any rotation player in that trade, b) Adelman was being very conservative, he said he isn’t playing TWill because he had been with the other guys “a lot longer” (Morey also said Adelman wasn’t playing him because he was going with the guys he knows better… Williams arrived mid season being a 2nd yr rplayer who had barely played this season and who spent his rookie year on a team nobody cared about, even if he showed great promise do you think Adelman was watching Nets games last season? he said he knows what the guys he has been with for a longer time can give him, he hasn’t given TWill chance). Btw, Adelman is probably gone at the end of the season. His contract expires and he could retire.
just telling it the way it is
if the great Sasha was traded mid season to the Rockets in the same situation, he wouldn’t crack the rotation. Yu know what muwu, I find this extremely funny, when the Nets signed that bumm Orien Green and I said he was trash, you were furious because I said he wasn’t an NBA player, and you said that people had the right to believe in a bum like him, who is 28, yet you give up on a 2nd yr player who showed so much promise. Laughable.
I guess you thought Petrovic was not going to be good because Adelman didn’t play him in Portland. Same goes for Gerald Wallace in Sacramento.
Again, Morey thinks TWill can be an All-Star, he said that last week. He hasn’t said that about CLee. He traded Brooks and Battier away, among other reason to force Adelman to play TWill.
So that's it, TWill just got hit by the absolute perfect storm of situations? All these different possible events just decided to come together to prevent TWill's break out?
It’s in no way shape or form a reflection whatsoever on TWill?
And the thing still remains, what makes TWill any better than Sasha if they would both get treated the same in Houston?
So you believe Morey when he says he thinks TWill can play like an allstar, but you don’t believe him when he says they made the Lee/Ariza trade because they specifically wanted Lee, a dime a dozen bum?
And the thing still remains, what makes TWill any better than Sasha if they would both get treated the same in Houston?
Hmm, because Williams showed in 2 months last year more than Sasha IN HIS ENTIRE 7 YR CAREER? It’s funny how much some of you overrate what Sasha has done this season with the Nets while downplaying what Williams did last year, it’s downright hilarious.
And it’s not the same to say you like a guy you traded for than saying yu think the other can be an AS, if you can’t see the difference…
So where has that ability gone?
Fact is we’re still saying “2 months” because it’s been absent since those 2 months.
he hasn't given a chance
if he had and he was stinking the place up, you’d have a point. I am surprised by Adelman conservative approach. We could find soon enough who was right, since the trades Morey made should give Williams a chance to show what he’s got.
He was stinking the place up here earlier in the year
25 turnovers to 31 assists, 39.7% FG, 4/12 from three, 5/10 from the line and that’s 10 free throw attempts in 10 games
oh please
he played 10 games with the Nets, including 2 after just coming back from a serious ab strain, which is no joke (he played very few minutes those 2 games, which will obviously bring his averages down given it’s such a small sample). Prior to that injury, he was avaeraging 9-5-4 in just 24 minutes. He wasn’t playing anywhere near the level he showed late last season, yet he was putting up solid numbers.
And if you think those numbers is stinking the place up, then you MUST think Sasha is stinking the gym up, too: 40.6% FG and 2.1 apg to 1.3 TOs.
So every single thing about TWill has some disconnected reason that is totally not reflective of him?
Again, so what it Sasha is playing poorly, does Sasha playing poorly make TWill’s play good? Or does it make them both bad?
I'd rather have the younger player playing poorly
then the older one. Just a point. In any case Sasha can be a difference maker but he’s so inconsistent at times his mistake would lose the lakers as many games as he won. You just wouldn’t see it on this team because when Sasha plays well he get the deserved credit for being the spark to win the game but if he plays poorly so have plenty of other players so he doesn’t get the blame.
I’m not saying this is some definitive statement you can make about him. But I have serious issues about his consistency when people talk about resigning him. He’s certainly not a starter and he can be a very nice bench spark but his shoot first mentality and what this means if that shot isn’t falling is a major concern.
"NETS GET DERON WILLIAMS!" Thats a sick joke, wait has nets daily been hacked. Is this real???- First reaction to Deron Williams trade.
Williams showed in 2 months last year more than Sasha IN HIS ENTIRE 7 YR CAREER?
Williams “led” the Nets to a 5-7 record last year IIRC, while Sasha was a rotation player on a championship team. IMO, it’s silly to say Williams has accomplished more (i.e. “shown more”) in his career than Sasha. What Sasha has shown is that he has a definable role on a winning NBA team. TWon’t has not shown that.
Rod Thorn, upon hearing that Billy King traded for Deron Williams: "I used to make those kinds of trades. ... Used to."
Muwu, please understand that Andres B. has constantly changed the goal posts
Right after the trade went down, Andres’ excuse for TWon’t not getting playing time was because he didn’t have enough practices under his belt to crack Adelman’s rotation. Now Andres can’t use that excuse anymore, so he’s coming up with different excuses. He’s constantly changing the goal posts.
Rod Thorn, upon hearing that Billy King traded for Deron Williams: "I used to make those kinds of trades. ... Used to."
I wake up early and I walk into this? TWill was the Nets’ most talented player when the season started, that trade will go down in history as a mistake, Terrence is the GOAT.
I win.
The Token Black-Jew
by NBRITM on Feb 26, 2011 9:33 AM EST up reply actions 4 recs
Andres
I tink Twill gave him a few #wordapp tweets and now he loves him?
I am VERY against Lebron, completely ignoring the stats. He ruins teams, despite what his great stats say. I dont care what anyone says, he ruins teams. - anonymous nets fan
by lemmetakeutodamovies on Feb 26, 2011 3:21 PM EST up reply actions
I'm with you there, muwu
I was never a massive T-Will fan when he was with the Nets. That said, I didn’t dislike him either. I thought he had a tonne of potential but, like a lot of people, hadn’t seen enough of him to form a real judgement.
That’s still the problem with him in Houston. The 23-year-old is not getting ANY burn whatsoever. He hasn’t even been getting junk minutes. I know this because I often watch Rockets games (one of my best buddies is a diehard fan). When NetIncome said T-Will was at the end of the bench, he wasn’t kidding.
It’s fine to ease a guy into the rotation, giving him garbage minutes at the start. It’s not fine to not give him any burn in games in lost-cause games (of which the Rockets have had plenty).
Rockets fans have been criticising Adelman’s rotations a lot lately, saying he’s sticking with his strategy of experience over youth at just about any cost. I would argue that even if the guy wasn’t thinking of retirement, Morey wouldn’t bring him back. Hill, Williams, Patterson – guys he should have been developing – have been ignored in place of Brad Miller and Chase “the kid is not a three-point shooter but is going to play like one anyway” Budinger.
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Wasn't confident about beating the Spurs in their place.
But we can take this game.
Please don't miss outlol
Deron set him up for so many wide open looks at threes and he bricked them all.
"NETS GET DERON WILLIAMS!" Thats a sick joke, wait has nets daily been hacked. Is this real???- First reaction to Deron Williams trade.
miss??? I meant play
"NETS GET DERON WILLIAMS!" Thats a sick joke, wait has nets daily been hacked. Is this real???- First reaction to Deron Williams trade.
Outlaw shouldn't even he trying to hit threes
Except for 1 or 2 good years, he’s never been a three point shooter. Avery needs to tell him to stick to driving inside and shooting closer in
Didn’t he dunk on somebody lastnight or am I dreaming?
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yeh he dunked on someone lol.
I have seen him do it 2 times this year and wonder where this is ALL the time. He is so long. His main issue is he dribbles a lot and gets no where
by Bruce Jones on Feb 26, 2011 11:24 AM EST up reply actions
Fun drinking game, watch a nets game drink every time Outlaw misses a shot.
Guaranteed to get you wasted.
"NETS GET DERON WILLIAMS!" Thats a sick joke, wait has nets daily been hacked. Is this real???- First reaction to Deron Williams trade.
might get alcohol poisoning...
Hi I'm actually not cool at all.
by Hi imreallycool on Feb 26, 2011 3:45 PM EST up reply actions
nice
I am VERY against Lebron, completely ignoring the stats. He ruins teams, despite what his great stats say. I dont care what anyone says, he ruins teams. - anonymous nets fan
are u serious? come on brook man its time to grow up man kissing cartoons like are u serious dude dam i mean i m a grown a@@ man and like thats so raven on saturday mornings and ish but dang brook i dont b kissing the tv -best comment ever
by lemmetakeutodamovies on Feb 26, 2011 6:14 PM EST up reply actions
Watch out for Chase
Budinger has been playing well and I can see our sf’s having trouble keeping up with him.
No, I heard he flew to Venezuela.
"You can spend minutes, hours, days weeks or even months overanalyzing a situation; trying to put the pieces together, justifying what would’ve, could’ve happened – or you can just leave the pieces on the floor and move the **** on."
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by NetsMets4Life on Feb 26, 2011 10:16 AM EST up reply actions
Btw
Why is Sasha starting? What did he do to deserve it? Over the last 5 games, he is shooting a dreadful .341 from the floor and .200 from downtown. .378 and .319 over the last 10.
Also, please play Outlaw as little as possible, give Brandan a chance and see what we have there. Not that I think he can become anything special, but he can’t do worse than Outlaw.
It won't be until next season that we have a starting lineup in place. Until then, it's
all experimentation. I’d like to see Brandan too, but Avery hasn’t even seen what he can do yet or how he fits with the other players on the team.
yeah, it's too early
but if Outlaw keeps sucking this much, it shouldn’t take long before Wright gets a chance, and again I don’t even believe in Wright’s talents, but I’d rather give him a try than keep watching Outlaw stink up the gym. What do we have to lose?
I definitely think Wright has upside. Just needs to stay healthy and show motivation.
If he plays D and is smart on the court, he will play for Avery.
Vince Carter for starting two anyone?
At the right price of course.
"NETS GET DERON WILLIAMS!" Thats a sick joke, wait has nets daily been hacked. Is this real???- First reaction to Deron Williams trade.
by shea23 on Feb 26, 2011 10:12 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I’m all for it.
@Al_Iannazzone: BREAKING NEWS: Nets are close to acquiring Deron WIlliams from Utah, sources told The Record.
-Feburary 23, 10:54 am.
by Andy. on Feb 26, 2011 10:18 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Kyle Lowry is very good.
@Al_Iannazzone: BREAKING NEWS: Nets are close to acquiring Deron WIlliams from Utah, sources told The Record.
-Feburary 23, 10:54 am.
Lee is now a regular part of the rotation while Williams is at the end of the bench, tallying 25 DNP-CD’s since mid-December.
This!
Lee > TWon’t, as some of us have been saying for a while now.
Rod Thorn, upon hearing that Billy King traded for Deron Williams: "I used to make those kinds of trades. ... Used to."
Apples and Oranges.
Willliams as more potential C Lee fills a role and should be a solid career rotation player. Depends what your team values more.
"NETS GET DERON WILLIAMS!" Thats a sick joke, wait has nets daily been hacked. Is this real???- First reaction to Deron Williams trade.
I hope Morrow starts, and Travis Outlaw makes his shots.
I also hope DJames brushed off the rust.
All we can hope for is that DJames takes away more of Outlaw's minutes. Maybe we get someone on a 10 day contract?
With less pressure and no one caring anymore, maybe Outlaw will return to his old shooting percentages.
Outlaw is played out with that contract.. His desire to play good basketball left the second he signed that 35 mill contract. He knows the possibility of somebody taking that contract off our hands is slim. He has nothing to worry about.
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Outlaw won't play in the nba when its over if he doesn't ship up
And since he has the personality of a house plant he doesn’t have any future in broadcasting, coaching etc. He may get burn in Europe but not for any real cash.
"NETS GET DERON WILLIAMS!" Thats a sick joke, wait has nets daily been hacked. Is this real???- First reaction to Deron Williams trade.
Maybe Outlaw will go to jail for the high way robbery his contract is.
"NETS GET DERON WILLIAMS!" Thats a sick joke, wait has nets daily been hacked. Is this real???- First reaction to Deron Williams trade.
Anyone know what Proky is doing in Venezuela right now?
If that was Proky’s plan all along, then San Antonio was on his way.
Also, I wonder why Proky made that short stop in the British Columbia Rockies at Kamloops yesterday?
He is afterall, The Most Interesting Man in the World.
why not provide us with a source?
@Al_Iannazzone: BREAKING NEWS: Nets are close to acquiring Deron WIlliams from Utah, sources told The Record.
-Feburary 23, 10:54 am.
I have fait we can steal this one
LET’S GO NETS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
by Andres B on Feb 26, 2011 9:35 AM EST reply actions 4 recs
nets can probably go real small in this game
dwill
farmar
morrow
outlaw
hump/wright
watchin pornos on the ipad...thats really raw
Yeah lets not player Lopez and play start Outlaw at 4 great move :P
"NETS GET DERON WILLIAMS!" Thats a sick joke, wait has nets daily been hacked. Is this real???- First reaction to Deron Williams trade.
Very off topic...but was looking around youtube and found this.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yaz-wZ7acks
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ycQTMfTkdMI
What the hell is Paul Pierce doing?!?
@Al_Iannazzone: BREAKING NEWS: Nets are close to acquiring Deron WIlliams from Utah, sources told The Record.
-Feburary 23, 10:54 am.
Thats weird as hell.
"You can spend minutes, hours, days weeks or even months overanalyzing a situation; trying to put the pieces together, justifying what would’ve, could’ve happened – or you can just leave the pieces on the floor and move the **** on."
-Tupac Amaru Shakur
by NetsMets4Life on Feb 26, 2011 10:22 AM EST up reply actions
HAHAHAHAHAAHAHAAHAHAH
I am VERY against Lebron, completely ignoring the stats. He ruins teams, despite what his great stats say. I dont care what anyone says, he ruins teams. - anonymous nets fan
by lemmetakeutodamovies on Feb 26, 2011 3:26 PM EST up reply actions
i have just received an email from d-will
first 10000 will receive a free t-shirt!
we need to do some special chant for him and the time!
"Hey nets fans, I'm excited to be a Net. I look forward to seeing you at Prudential Center. Be sure to be there Monday, when I make my home debut."
[flashes smile]
"You can spend minutes, hours, days weeks or even months overanalyzing a situation; trying to put the pieces together, justifying what would’ve, could’ve happened – or you can just leave the pieces on the floor and move the **** on."
-Tupac Amaru Shakur
by NetsMets4Life on Feb 26, 2011 10:27 AM EST up reply actions
I hope we win
Playing against SAS is like playing chess game: you make mistakes – you lose pieces. And while I don’t question desire of our players I do question talent level. There is no need to talk about Outlaw, since he’s the biggest waste of cap space after Eddie Curry. But Brook… come on! You’re a BIG man, but you play like Muggsy Bogues around the basket! Or maybe you just can’t wait to go to Orlando’s Disney Park? We can arrange that!
Brook should bounce back tonight for sure
When you got to shoot, shoot don't talk.
Tomofey Mozgoz about getting dunked on by Blake Griffin "I didn't like it"
Which team is more likely to win the AFC east the Patriots or Jets?
The Bills? It's gonna be the JETS homes.-Trevor Price
thing that hurt us was
that D-Will looked too much for Hump because that’s the only guy he’s familiar with…
I wanna see more Lopez post up when the D is going one on one…or D-Will driving and kicking out to Morrow/Sasha/Farmar..the only time Hump should get the ball is when he’s WIDE open by the free throw line or transition.
METS JETS NETS LAKERS
"I don’t think we want to be like the Knicks, I think we’d more like to resemble the Lakers." - Mikhail Prokhorov! New Nets Owner!
Adam Morrison got his team multiple championships barely trying, if that's not a great player...I don't know who is.
also sit out Outlaw.. because he sucks a lot
METS JETS NETS LAKERS
"I don’t think we want to be like the Knicks, I think we’d more like to resemble the Lakers." - Mikhail Prokhorov! New Nets Owner!
Adam Morrison got his team multiple championships barely trying, if that's not a great player...I don't know who is.
by YoungMoney24 on Feb 26, 2011 11:16 AM EST up reply actions
He kept passing to hump cuz hump was moving and giving him proper spacing….that’s what dwill is used to….the other players were standing around…or missing wide open shot like the avatar….Lopez needs way better basketball iQ he wants to score every time….with 1 or 3 defenders on him….he needs to pass out on that double team faster…and stop forcing the issue…other than that it looked like dwill was just trying to get to know his new teammates….and you have to admit…not bad against the best team in the league….hit open shots that dwill has been making for teammates and we will see wins
by Cesani36 on Feb 26, 2011 12:07 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I saw Hump reject at least 4 shots and it said he only had
2 blocks? I feel like i saw 3 in the first quarter alone
Avery
AJ needs to call the pick and pop for Outlaw, and get Brook in the high post feeding the low post. Brook draws so much attention with his jumper. I say use Brook as a decoy an facilitator also. Averys offense is not very creative. TDuncan works out of the high post because of his jumper why cant Brook?
Because it's brook.
The only thing Avery needs to say to Outlaw is back to the bench
Nets for the ship!
Outlaw has been awful from the perimeter
He’s too tall & long to be spotting up at the 3-point line. he should be cutting and dunking.
He never hits the shots when he’s standing waiting for the ball. he makes shots when he’s in motion
and does the catch and shott.
"A little boy went out to play. When he opened his door, he saw the world. As he passed through the doorway, he caused a reflection. Evil was born. Evil was born, and followed the boy."
get to see t-will play now that battier gone
but seriously i’d rather have t-will missin practice, cd-r and lee throwing rants than 7 mil a year outlaw stinking every 9/10 games up. if they would have pitched harder on how they were turning the team around a wing core of morrow, lee, cd-r, james, and t-will would have been pretty good
The realist keepin it real amongst the surrealists
by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Feb 26, 2011 2:16 PM EST reply actions
D. Williams - Wrist Tendon Injury
Two weeks ago Utah was reporting that D. Williams had a strained tendon in his shooting wrist. I believe Deron himself said that the injury was still bothering him (and affecting his game). Does anyone have an update on this injury?
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