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Despite Prokhorov-'Melo Summit, Knicks Confident They're In Lead

Despite a 40-minute meeting between the Nets high command and Carmelo Anthony --and reports of dissension and even dysfunction in Knicks front office-- New York appears confident they remain in the lead for 'Melo's services.  According to reports, Anthony agreed to meet with the Nets only at the insistence of the Nuggets and in fact, he had to agree to the Nets meeting before he could meet Thursday with James Dolan.

The Nuggets and Knicks have yet to hammer out a deal, with reports that Danilo Gallinari, Wilson Chandler, Raymond Felton, the expiring contract of Eddy Curry and at least one first round pick would head to Denver. Curry and Anthony Randolph would go to Minnesota who would provide the pick the Knicks need.

In return, Anthony, Chauncey Billups, Shelden Williams and Renaldo Balkman would go to New York.  Denver apparently wants a second pick and/or Timofey Mozgov.

The Nets have been notably silent since the meeting, after which they were described by Adrian Wojnarowski as not very confident.

If Denver and New York can't get a deal done, it's anticipated that the Nuggets will tell Anthony they intend to trade him to New Jersey and let him decide if he wants the $65 million extension.  The Nets will not make the deal without the extension. When will it all end? It appears that the six month long drama is likely to conclude Monday.  At least Anthony and the Nuggets want it over by then.  Presumably so do the Knicks and Nets.

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Guys, I really hope we can get it done…

Do you thing the nuggets can make Dolan crazy and finally make him give up the race?
Melo wants his 65 millions so he would have to come to NJ.

by valdu08 on Feb 20, 2011 7:42 AM EST reply actions  

I don't see Dolan giving up

He’s not exactly the sharpest guy out there. I think at the end of the day he’ll be willing to give anyone on that roster for Melo. This is the guy that goes to Isiah Thomas for advice. Don’t make the mistake of inserting rational thinking when trying to break down his reasoning

by muwu on Feb 20, 2011 7:46 AM EST up reply actions  

I couldn't find the story that says that Nuggets asking for a 2nd draft pick and/or Mozgov

Sounds to me like Nuggets are trying to drive the Knicks out of the race (and/or let Melo realize that Knicks wouldn’t be a good team anymore after being gutted).

I said previously that Nuggets aren’t going to want to pay luxury tax on Curry. They would need more in order to able to move him.

And if the Knicks are in disarray (with Walsh out, as GM, how could Knicks get the details of trade done in time?

by jerry25 on Feb 20, 2011 9:30 AM EST up reply actions  

Frank Isola said it on his twitter account

"We're not there yet, but we're going somewhere," Johnson said. "And we're going to Brooklyn. We're not going to contract. We're going to Brooklyn."

by Atronic on Feb 20, 2011 10:20 AM EST up reply actions  

No

It would take a strong dose of thalium.

by ispartan on Feb 20, 2011 9:57 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

I really hope this drags out and NYK pays TOP $

The price is SOOO hi now that I really hope Dolan and Thomas get their wish. My only hope is that Dolan has a Napoleonic melt down and agrees to give up Mozgov or more to get it done.

"Nobody in the league can guard you one-on-one," Johnson bellowed from the sideline. "It's an insult to you if they try."

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by NJNM on Feb 20, 2011 10:25 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

He did not say he did want to be a net. He just said he prefered to be a knick.

by valdu08 on Feb 20, 2011 7:58 AM EST up reply actions  

Exactly !!! Isn’t that the same thing?

by kupalski on Feb 20, 2011 8:17 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

At the end of the day, who exactly has NJ as his number 1 choice?

None of our free agent signings would have signed here had we not offered them as much as we did.

by muwu on Feb 20, 2011 8:23 AM EST up reply actions  

Money wise NYK and Nets offering the same extension, same money… other free agents is a bidding process.

by kupalski on Feb 20, 2011 8:44 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Your missing the point

All things being equal, what player out there really has NJ as their first choice? C’mon, we were the worst team in the NBA last year. We’re struggling this year. Even if you ask our own players, only a handful would really say their #1 team would be NJ. That doesn’t mean we simply give up and not even attempt to sign free agents.

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by imdkidd on Feb 20, 2011 10:06 AM EST up reply actions  

Did anyone see Derrick Williams vs Washington?

26 and 13, big block of final shot and deflection
He could be the answer at SF a stronger and more skilled Austin Daye

by DJ HeavyDuty on Feb 20, 2011 7:55 AM EST reply actions  

Yeah I did.

Still think he’s a PF though.

"I don’t think we want to be like the Knicks. I think we’d more like to resemble the Lakers." - Mikhail Prokhorov

Want to know when you can see draft lottery prospects on TV? Go to this post: http://www.netsdaily.com/2011/1/21/1948224/top-2011-draft-lottery-prospects-in-nationally-televised-ncaa-games

by Maxyboy on Feb 20, 2011 10:07 AM EST up reply actions  

Yeah me 2

"We're not there yet, but we're going somewhere," Johnson said. "And we're going to Brooklyn. We're not going to contract. We're going to Brooklyn."

by Atronic on Feb 20, 2011 10:20 AM EST up reply actions  

Lots of headaches and heartache

All for a player who’s made past the first round once in his career.

by JackTr1pper on Feb 20, 2011 7:57 AM EST via mobile reply actions   2 recs

Why does that matter?

You’re judging a guy based on playoff success, not defensive ability. So why do you add in defensive ability when it comes to a guy who had the exact same thing happen to him?

by muwu on Feb 20, 2011 8:04 AM EST up reply actions  

As did Jason Kidd

whose teams got out of the first round ONCE before the trade and Kidd didn’t even play for that team, having been injured before the playoffs.

by Net Income on Feb 20, 2011 10:05 AM EST up reply actions  

Garnett was an MVP. Anthony has yet to ever make the All-NBA first team. Last year, he made the All-NBA second team for the firs time in his career.

by Andres B on Feb 20, 2011 8:40 AM EST up reply actions  

WHAT?? Now the Knicks will get Williams and Balkman also?

Sweet Jesus, our deal should land us 2 more players then.

"You can spend minutes, hours, days weeks or even months overanalyzing a situation; trying to put the pieces together, justifying what would’ve, could’ve happened – or you can just leave the pieces on the floor and move the **** on."
-Tupac Amaru Shakur

by NetsMets4Life on Feb 20, 2011 7:58 AM EST reply actions  

They're pretty much inconsequential

Probably only there to maintain roster limits or match salaries

by muwu on Feb 20, 2011 8:00 AM EST up reply actions  

I still find it ludicrous that they will receive what we would have considering our deal blows theirs out of the water.

"You can spend minutes, hours, days weeks or even months overanalyzing a situation; trying to put the pieces together, justifying what would’ve, could’ve happened – or you can just leave the pieces on the floor and move the **** on."
-Tupac Amaru Shakur

by NetsMets4Life on Feb 20, 2011 8:02 AM EST up reply actions  

Nuggets has 14 players right now

add in 4 players from New York, and they have to send out at minimum 3 players

by muwu on Feb 20, 2011 8:02 AM EST up reply actions  

Ummm

We were getting them in the proposed deal… and Melvin Ely

by Anthony Perez on Feb 20, 2011 10:03 AM EST up reply actions  

If the Nuggets really want a second pick

then we can only hope that it’s a deal breaker. How would they acquire a second one? That would take some time, too.

"You can spend minutes, hours, days weeks or even months overanalyzing a situation; trying to put the pieces together, justifying what would’ve, could’ve happened – or you can just leave the pieces on the floor and move the **** on."
-Tupac Amaru Shakur

by NetsMets4Life on Feb 20, 2011 8:03 AM EST reply actions  

Its clear from this in my opinion

That denver is pushing melo’s hand and does not want to deal with the knicks at all by doing what they does best, extorting MORE from NYK so that NYK either gives up what they ask for or back away so that they can get our package which they favour more, its a W-W for them either way gotta admit. Lets say IF the knicks can get a 2nd pick to add to the deal, what makes you think they wont ask for fields or mozgov next, it would just keep going on and on until they force melo’s hand by calling his bluffand get him to either sign with us or stay with them.

by BkNetsfan on Feb 20, 2011 8:10 AM EST up reply actions  

Id assume theyd ask again about Mozgov or Fields.

but that I do not think is a deal breaker. The second pick I do think is, though.

"You can spend minutes, hours, days weeks or even months overanalyzing a situation; trying to put the pieces together, justifying what would’ve, could’ve happened – or you can just leave the pieces on the floor and move the **** on."
-Tupac Amaru Shakur

by NetsMets4Life on Feb 20, 2011 8:17 AM EST up reply actions  

Agree

Especially when every gm in the league busy dealing with trades regarding their players right now, its gonna be hard to find someone with the pick that denver wants and even if they can find it, what are they gonna give up to trade for that pick especially when all their valuable players are part of the melo deal. Walker? Curry? Azubuike maybe but who is gonna take a risk on him when he’s a little injury prone and give up a high draft pick for him in the process.

by BkNetsfan on Feb 20, 2011 8:28 AM EST up reply actions  

Espn new york is just propaganda….

by valdu08 on Feb 20, 2011 8:09 AM EST reply actions  

4 way trade that wont happen Den/NY/NJN/Minn

to Denver
Favors
Harris
T. Mozgov
1st round pick from Minn (protected) for Randolph
Rockets pick
Troy Murphy

to NJ
Wilson Chandler
Gallinari
Felton
Eddy Curry

to NYK
Carmelo
Bilups
Shelden Williams
Balkman

Why we do it: Assuming Melo refuses to come to NJ.. Denver wants Favors. They have for awhile. So we trade Favors for 2 starters. We still keep our own #1 picks and GS’s pick. Trade machine, albeit a computer, projects 9 wins with that trade. Personally, I dont think Favors will work out in NJ. yes thats my bias. but the trade rumors are horrible for him. give him a fresh start.

Why the Kicks do it- they get Melo

Why Denver does it- they have been enamored with Favors.. They get cap relief, 2 young players in Favors and Mosgov.. and a few picks

We then turn around and do the Portland deal and our team is:
pg- Andre Miller/ Farmar
sg- Sasha/ Fernandez
sf- Gallinari/ D. James
pf- Humph/ Chandler
c- Lopez/ Petro

we gain cap space by losing Outlaw. We can decide then if we want to retain CHandler or trade him.

I think these trades only weaken us at SG.. but I would argue that Morrow is a 6th man anyhow..

by orangeeater on Feb 20, 2011 8:10 AM EST reply actions  

and felton to nj

to Denver
Favors
T. Mozgov
1st round pick from Minn (protected) for Randolph
Rockets pick
Troy Murphy

to NJ
Wilson Chandler
Gallinari
Eddy Curry

by orangeeater on Feb 20, 2011 8:11 AM EST up reply actions  

haha :) im assuming ny is going to get him and our trade mainly is to get the players the knicks dealt

you are right wont happen ever
But my final version on trade machine nets us 12 wins (probably all because we lose outlaw :)

pg- miller/farmar
sg- sasha/fernandez
sf- gallo/james
pf- humph/chandler
c- lopez/przy/petro

by orangeeater on Feb 20, 2011 8:17 AM EST up reply actions  

Lol losing outlaw is great

but favors for Gallo and Chandler who can opt out is horrible for favors. P.S I Dnt like Gallo at all I think he’s going to failll in denver

by nwkiddnj on Feb 20, 2011 8:24 AM EST up reply actions  

We wont do any deals with the knicks

Thats for sure by taking back their players. Its a pride thing and why would we help them get carmelo by taking back their stuff in the process as well. And chandler would be unlikely to resign with us after the season unless for big money too….. So i cant see this happening to be honest….

by BkNetsfan on Feb 20, 2011 8:15 AM EST up reply actions  

Pride?

The Nets have no pride, otherwise we would have stopped being melo’s security blanket months ago.

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"Proky puffing out his chest after 3 months of groveling does little to make us not look stupid. Both teams look ridiculous."- JohnfromLongIsland, speaking on the embarrassing actions of the Nets Front Office.

by MrDollarBills on Feb 20, 2011 8:34 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Im sorry, but whats the point of posting a trade that has 0% chance of happening?

Creative, but pointless.

"You can spend minutes, hours, days weeks or even months overanalyzing a situation; trying to put the pieces together, justifying what would’ve, could’ve happened – or you can just leave the pieces on the floor and move the **** on."
-Tupac Amaru Shakur

by NetsMets4Life on Feb 20, 2011 8:18 AM EST up reply actions  

Net Income, any predictions?

"You can spend minutes, hours, days weeks or even months overanalyzing a situation; trying to put the pieces together, justifying what would’ve, could’ve happened – or you can just leave the pieces on the floor and move the **** on."
-Tupac Amaru Shakur

by NetsMets4Life on Feb 20, 2011 8:16 AM EST reply actions  

Yep

Going on nearly 5 and a half months….You stay classy NBA basketball…

by JackTr1pper on Feb 20, 2011 8:18 AM EST via mobile reply actions  

Very Mixed on Trade

- Will Favors turn out well?
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Rockets and Lakers pick are not great but .. our ’11 (top 7 player) and GS ’12 could be very valuable
- What does this deal do with our cap space?
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Will Melo really be a magnet for other FAs (ie, Paul .. and will we have enough cap space/assets to get him)?

Somehow seems like too much. If we could protect our ‘11 pick 1-9 then I’d like it. Otherwise, won’t be sorry if we lose him.

by Oriel on Feb 20, 2011 8:21 AM EST reply actions  

ALL good questions

was told the Nets think the Warrior pick in 2012 is a better pick than their own 2011 pick if the deal goes through. Two reasons: if the Nets get ’Melo, the Nets pick will be better, and the 2011 draft is so much worse than 2012.

by Net Income on Feb 20, 2011 9:01 AM EST up reply actions  

not since last night for al

but there are DOZENS of links from the New York papers, FanHouse, Yahoo!, Sports Illustrated, Denver Post.

by Net Income on Feb 20, 2011 10:07 AM EST up reply actions  

Right now, Favors is pretty much identical to Ed Davis, if not worse

Favors per 36 minutes:
11.6 ppg 9.8 rpg 1.3 bpg 6 fpg 51% FG

Davis per 36 minutes:
10.2 ppg 10.9 rpg 1.8 bpg 4.4 fpg 59% FG

Not the craziest thing, since early last year, Ed Davis was ranked right below Favors in mock drafts.

by muwu on Feb 20, 2011 8:25 AM EST reply actions  

i just answered this question

Favors would be alot better is he has went to UNC for 3 years and was 21

by DJ HeavyDuty on Feb 20, 2011 8:52 AM EST up reply actions  

I wouldn’t be confident either if the person that I am trying to woo has to be FORCED to meet with me.

How much $ did mikhail spend on lunch to beg this lummox to play for us?

The Knicks are a mess and you have players lining up to play for them while we beg. Something is wrong with that.

Since we’re begging, hand me a tin cup and scoot over. If we beg hard enough we’ll have enough change to buy a can of steel reserve.

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"Proky puffing out his chest after 3 months of groveling does little to make us not look stupid. Both teams look ridiculous."- JohnfromLongIsland, speaking on the embarrassing actions of the Nets Front Office.

by MrDollarBills on Feb 20, 2011 8:29 AM EST via mobile reply actions  

Don't worry!!

No matter what happens, Proky will throw another big news conference and pretend like his billions mean a thing to anybody in the league… Then the world will see we mean business! Andre Miller, Dan Gadzuric, Brendan Wright and Derrick Favors’ shattered ego will be Finals champions in 2012!!

by JohnFromLongIsland on Feb 20, 2011 8:36 AM EST via mobile up reply actions   1 recs

I can’t wait.

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"Proky puffing out his chest after 3 months of groveling does little to make us not look stupid. Both teams look ridiculous."- JohnfromLongIsland, speaking on the embarrassing actions of the Nets Front Office.

by MrDollarBills on Feb 20, 2011 8:42 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

+1

For the Steel Reserve Reference

Help! I'm a Nets fan :(

Machine and Ammo locked and loaded!

by cedaghost on Feb 20, 2011 4:56 PM EST up reply actions  

This entire situation is an absolute joke...

All 3 teams deserve to lose Melo to a European team over the summer.

by JohnFromLongIsland on Feb 20, 2011 8:33 AM EST via mobile reply actions  

Melo is going to be a Knick

It’s where he wants to be. The Knicks are MSG – packed every night with more energy per game than 10 Nets games. The Knicks are Amare Stoudemire – a top 20 player and MVP candidate. The Knicks are New York City.

Melo’s never wanted to be in NJ. No player wants to be in NJ. When the Nets are up and running in BK, it’ll be different. But not before then.

And the Knicks deal is better. Gallanari, Chandler, Felton, Mozgov and a pick? That’s a hell of a deal, especially if Mozgov can develop into a decent, reliable player. Sure, the Nets have lots of picks to send, but Denver can’t go into a slow rebuild mode when they lose Melo – they’ll need pieces that offer immediate help – and that’s what the Knicks are offering. The only immediate help the Nets are offering is Harris – and he’s not that much better than Lawson, anyway. Favors is a project who may turn out to be nothing more than an average PF. I think Denver has played up their interest in Favors to get the Knicks to improve their offer. And, considering the Knicks are throwing half their starting line up into the deal, their strategy appears to have worked.

Melo is a Knick on Monday.

by CBEE on Feb 20, 2011 8:35 AM EST reply actions   2 recs

Stop right there

Your negativity is bringing down our general optimism.

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"Proky puffing out his chest after 3 months of groveling does little to make us not look stupid. Both teams look ridiculous."- JohnfromLongIsland, speaking on the embarrassing actions of the Nets Front Office.

by MrDollarBills on Feb 20, 2011 8:39 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

I disagree with what Denver wants

Denver absolutely wants to go back into rebuilding mode, as reported by every writer. The Knicks offer gives them role players who won’t be able to take them to the playoffs or do anything substantial other than waste cap space for a couple of years.

by Anthony Perez on Feb 20, 2011 10:07 AM EST up reply actions  

exactly what i was thinking

If I was Melo I would love to play in NYC alongside a friend (Amare) and be treated like a God every night. Frankly, I would be pretty depressed playing for the Nets alongside random scubs in a mostly empty arena. I am an Nets fan but you know this is true

"Go ahead, make a cake"

by CinnamonToastCrunch on Feb 20, 2011 10:09 AM EST up reply actions  

Proky had to go All In

If Proky didn’t put pressure on the Nuggs with such a strong trade offer Melo would be a Knick already and they wouldn’t have had to give up nearly as much as they will now to get the deal done. In no way is it a win win situation for the Nets if Melo goes to the knicks, which unfortunately I think is inevitable, because the Nets still need a star on the team heading to Brooklyn. By causing the Knicks to pay more than they wanted and to cause the internal unrest in the Knicks front office that I am hearing about and possibly getting Isiah Thoams back in power that may be more valuable to the Nets than anyone realizes. As far as the players go Harris is the only one that would be a problem but from what I hear he is gone either way. Favors is young and a very hard worker, he has a level head so he will come out of this ok I am sure and the Nets would still have there lottery pick this year plus all of those other picks so maybe they can maneuver up to the very top of the draft who knows. As far as losing respect by Proky gettting back in I think he had no choice and what respect do the Nets have already to lose? What he did show is he is willing to do whatever it takes to put a winner in that new billion dollar arena he is building……Sorry for being so long but its just my two cents.

by ArmchairQb68 on Feb 20, 2011 8:37 AM EST reply actions  

Win-win...

Is the new ending a sentence by saying PERIOD around here…

by JohnFromLongIsland on Feb 20, 2011 8:39 AM EST via mobile reply actions  

A win win right now for me would be some asprin. Ugh what a night

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"Proky puffing out his chest after 3 months of groveling does little to make us not look stupid. Both teams look ridiculous."- JohnfromLongIsland, speaking on the embarrassing actions of the Nets Front Office.

by MrDollarBills on Feb 20, 2011 8:44 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

what they call the “hangover”

NoMelo Era Record: 7-9

by Andy. on Feb 20, 2011 8:45 AM EST up reply actions  

I just poured myself a cup of sangria

Presidents day weekend binge, day 3.

Hangover cure: more liquor.

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"Proky puffing out his chest after 3 months of groveling does little to make us not look stupid. Both teams look ridiculous."- JohnfromLongIsland, speaking on the embarrassing actions of the Nets Front Office.

by MrDollarBills on Feb 20, 2011 8:55 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

ha! lol

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by Andy. on Feb 20, 2011 8:56 AM EST up reply actions  

Some doctor-prescribed medicine will take care of that.

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by NBRITM on Feb 20, 2011 8:53 AM EST up reply actions  

It's pretty obvious what the deal is (as NI stated in his post)

It’s up to Knicks & Denver…..if they can get something knocked out, he’s a Knick

If they can’t he’s coming to the Nets….

That’s probaly just what the meeting was about last night (and why it was so quick)

Proky & Jay-Z: Look, if the Knicks trade doesn’t work out, would you want to come play for us and sign the extension

Carmelo: Sure

And that’s how this will all play out…..don’t worry about whose sources say what or whatever…the only “media” alert we should be looking for right now is IF Knicks and Denver agree to trade…..

by specialed987 on Feb 20, 2011 8:40 AM EST reply actions  

+1

should we wish for the knicks n denver to come into terms? i would love to see melo on a net uniform . but i also want the nets to draft a superstar ala OKC

by ricoswabe on Feb 20, 2011 8:51 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Choose one man....

You cant have the best of both worlds in life. But honestly, the way this is going, we’re going to have to hope and pray that t-jones/irving is going to be that superstar for us since its pretty much set melo is unlikely to come and we’re likely to get the sixth pick in the draft at the end of the season.

by BkNetsfan on Feb 20, 2011 9:01 AM EST up reply actions  

I don't see it that way

The way I look at it, no matter what the Knicks do … short of including Amare in the deal …. they can’t top our offer. The main reason is because after this season, the Nuggets would be left with Gallo, possibly Mozgov, possibly Landry Fields, and possibly a pick. Chandler and Felton of FAs after this season. That’s still doesn’t top our off Favors (min 3 years remaining), Harris (min 2 years remaining), and at least 2 first round picks (both possibly lottery picks).

So its not an issue of the Nuggets wanting the Knicks deal. Its a matter of the Nuggets convincing Melo that they absolutely will do the Nets deal or no extension. Its a stare down. Melo will threaten to walk and sign with the Knicks after the season and lose $40 million over the remainder of his career. The Nuggets will say go. ahead. The only problem is … does the Nuggets have the testicular fortitude to do that. Melo always quotes about how he has a great relation with Josh Kroenke. Ever wonder why he does not mention Ujiri?

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by imdkidd on Feb 20, 2011 10:17 AM EST up reply actions  

No One Knows

I thought Knicks three days ago. I thought Nets last night. Who knows? I doubt Melo knows. There are at least 5 more twists and turns before this is done. Knicks may not ever meet Denver’s ever changing offers. And, I doubt the Knicks confidence and bluster and the Nets silence means much. The Knicks have to be confident and blustery given who they are and how they operate and the Nets are a closer to the vest organization. Proky not boasting is actually good news to me. 80-90% of what is out there is meaningless. And 40 minutes is not a short meeting. Anything more and you bore people.

by oman8 on Feb 20, 2011 8:43 AM EST reply actions  

I think Melo clearly knows. I think something will be announced after the alllstar game or tomorrow the latest.

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by Andy. on Feb 20, 2011 8:44 AM EST up reply actions  

Well guys its either this or the Portland trade. Take your pick. :(

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by Andy. on Feb 20, 2011 8:44 AM EST reply actions  

Outlaw being traded

as a consolation prize sounds like a win win

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by MrDollarBills on Feb 20, 2011 8:47 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

lol…that’ll be nice.

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by Andy. on Feb 20, 2011 8:48 AM EST up reply actions  

I really don't mind getting rid of outlaw

I’m not as down anymore. Before I thought we looked like “fools” now I realize the front office just did what they had to do. We can’t get freeagents here. So we try as hard as we can to get Melo to help us on that end. If we don’t get him we go to the draft with tons of picks. It does seem we are making NY add alot more pieces then they want to ( btw I think it’s a big deal and people are seeing that it leaves them with NOTHING, nothing at all to deal for other players. They still do have FA though) nah it’s not a " WIN/WIN " but who cares forreal, we are the Nets no one wants to play here and the only way to change that is by winning and Melo would of been the biggest step toward winning so we gave it our best shot. Now we hope for luck in the draft

by nwkiddnj on Feb 20, 2011 8:54 AM EST up reply actions  

The Portland trade is atrocious.

The Token Black-Jew

by NBRITM on Feb 20, 2011 8:54 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

+2

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by Andy. on Feb 20, 2011 9:06 AM EST up reply actions  

Kerber doesn't even mention the possibility of dumping Outlaw in that trade
If the Anthony deal dies on the vine, the Nets will look to Portland for a trade involving Harris and Blazer Andre Miller. And Murphy likely would be traded with a 2012 second-round pick to Golden State, for Dan Gadzuric and Brandan Wright.

by Andres B on Feb 20, 2011 9:06 AM EST up reply actions  

Hollinger said he doubts Portland would accept taking on Outlaw, he thinks that’s wishful thinking on NJ’s part. If true, that would make the trade even more ridiculous.

by Andres B on Feb 20, 2011 9:07 AM EST up reply actions  

Agreed. Outlaw must go

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by MrDollarBills on Feb 20, 2011 9:12 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

The trade is putrid even if Outlaw is involved.

The Token Black-Jew

by NBRITM on Feb 20, 2011 9:15 AM EST up reply actions  

I agree but outlaw must go and harris needs to be moved

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by MrDollarBills on Feb 20, 2011 9:24 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

here's what I have been told

1) Nate McMillan is pushing to bring him back.

2) Morrow will NOT be included in that deal, period.

3) Fernandez’s claim that he will go to Spain is bullshit. He would have to be bought out by the Nets and as noted yesterday, Euroleague teams must submit their playoff rosters this week. He will love New Jersey.

4) the Troy Murphy and a second rounder for Dan Gadzuric and Brandan Wright deal is very real.

by Net Income on Feb 20, 2011 10:10 AM EST up reply actions  

This is great news, but if we don't trade Morrow, would we still get back Rudy?

Or would we be trading someone else?

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by Maxyboy on Feb 20, 2011 10:11 AM EST up reply actions  

HUGE relief that Morrow's off the block

It doesn’t make sense to let him go right now

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by NJNM on Feb 20, 2011 10:34 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

i don't like any of these trades

too much for melo. (replace harris or favors with someone else) no point to GS (i’d rather keep the 2nd rnd pick) and dumping harris just to get rid of outlaw is wasteful.

by drmagoo on Feb 20, 2011 8:54 AM EST reply actions  

I don’t think Melo knows b/c it is not totally up to him. He may know what he wants, but Denver has to be satisfied too and he knows that.

Also everything about Net deal is specific: 40 minutes, which players etc. Everything about Knick deal has been vague: how long did they meet? which players coming back? How are they getting that pick?

Everything points three ways: no deal, Knicks deal, Nets deal. Denver is so deliberate and confusing anything could still happen. I even doubt we will know tomorrow.

by oman8 on Feb 20, 2011 8:54 AM EST reply actions  

All I do is...

…win win win no matter what

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by MrDollarBills on Feb 20, 2011 8:56 AM EST via mobile reply actions  

What annoys me is

players the Nugz are getting from the Knicks are going to be fairly meaningless in the the long run.

I cannot believe Denver is going to trade Melo for a bunch of FA guys and a second round pick.

by No Sleep Till Brooklyn on Feb 20, 2011 9:00 AM EST reply actions  

They have no choice if Melo won't agree to Nets deal.

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by Maxyboy on Feb 20, 2011 10:12 AM EST up reply actions  

I highly doubt this deal blows up in Stoudemires face.

Anthony has talked to NY, Stoudemire, they are waiting for Denver to blink.

by JJ25 on Feb 20, 2011 9:00 AM EST reply actions  

in my opinion if this deal dont get done there franchise will be over for next 3-4 years even if they get a good pick in draft can that guy really bring them to playoffs. look at blake griffin hes the greatest rookie in the world this year and the clippers still suck and they will suck for years to come……. we better hope this melo deal happens

by adjmi95 on Feb 20, 2011 9:04 AM EST reply actions  

Suck for years to come?

if Blake is healthy that team is going to be darn good in the future

by nwkiddnj on Feb 20, 2011 9:10 AM EST up reply actions  

the clips wont suck for years to come

quite the contrary
as barkley said las night.. when griffin learns how to play he will dominate even more. right now he is getting by on athleticism mostly he says griffin plays at 100 miles per hour all game. he needs to learn how to slow down..

by orangeeater on Feb 20, 2011 9:10 AM EST up reply actions  

Griffin barring injury will be a hall of famer. He is a superstar, no ifs ands or buts

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by MrDollarBills on Feb 20, 2011 9:14 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Yup

22.5 and 12.5 is craz good.

by JJ25 on Feb 20, 2011 9:16 AM EST up reply actions  

Andre Miller

is built for a slow system.

by JJ25 on Feb 20, 2011 9:18 AM EST reply actions  

’You’re like Andre Miller, got a basic game’

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by MrDollarBills on Feb 20, 2011 9:22 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Killa!

“told ya chick hurry up, we dont wait for trains”

One of my personal favorite rappers.

by power_njerz on Feb 20, 2011 11:31 AM EST up reply actions  

Watching Mannix on ESPN

Nothing really new. The Nets need to forget about melo do we really want this guy? He does not want to be here. We look pathetic. We’re set to commit 65 mil to a guy that has done everything in his power to humiliate this franchise with his wavering and public love affair with the Knicks.

Is this what you want?

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by MrDollarBills on Feb 20, 2011 9:20 AM EST via mobile reply actions   1 recs

Nets should have knew better but oh well

Gods of reach and we will have our own Anthony Randolph.

who needs stars when you have role players

"Do you remember when Martin had a dream and Bobby had a regiment"

by killa kadafi191 on Feb 20, 2011 9:23 AM EST up reply actions  

guess who's back

when things go bad, killa is always here LOL

Brooklyn we go hard...

by Fabio Villani on Feb 20, 2011 9:24 AM EST up reply actions  

if that is the case you ever

wonder why I’m always here hahahaahaahahah.

Naw I’m the guy saying there is no santa.

Reality is we will likely have more role players

But Booge brought up a good point about Avery.

I don’t think Avery signed up to coach kids and role players.

Even if he did he is not the best coach for this team and the type of players we are only able to get.

"Do you remember when Martin had a dream and Bobby had a regiment"

by killa kadafi191 on Feb 20, 2011 9:29 AM EST up reply actions  

You know what’s ironic in all this, you appear to be religious.

The Token Black-Jew

by NBRITM on Feb 20, 2011 9:30 AM EST up reply actions  

I am but

people probably think from what I say on here.

I’m depressed. Unhappy and hate life.

like I’m the old man saying get off my lawn.

"Do you remember when Martin had a dream and Bobby had a regiment"

by killa kadafi191 on Feb 20, 2011 9:33 AM EST up reply actions  

yea sure

it would change things but it’s not happening

"Do you remember when Martin had a dream and Bobby had a regiment"

by killa kadafi191 on Feb 20, 2011 9:47 AM EST up reply actions  

I Dnt think no one here thinks ur a bad person or mean guy

its just no one likes the “I told u so” guy. No one ever does,

by nwkiddnj on Feb 20, 2011 9:35 AM EST up reply actions  

Are you equating depression and atheism? God, I love America. I was more focusing on the fact that you’re a realist and more than not logical, it’s ironic that a logical human-being (such as you’ve shown yourself to be) could be religious. Then again, sports philosophies don’t always stretch out to life.

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by NBRITM on Feb 20, 2011 9:40 AM EST up reply actions  

No I am

not have no problems with Atheist.

I love Bill Maher. I’m saying how people feel if you are looking things from a realistic point and don’t believe what is beyond logic you are miserable;e

"Do you remember when Martin had a dream and Bobby had a regiment"

by killa kadafi191 on Feb 20, 2011 9:47 AM EST up reply actions  

Strongly disagree, but I don’t want to turn this into a philosophical debate.

The Token Black-Jew

by NBRITM on Feb 20, 2011 9:51 AM EST up reply actions  

Some still view it as worshiping the devil.

But really since I became a atheist I’m happier than ever. I use to fear so manythings that I can’t care less about now. But yeah I say that to say this Proky is god

by nwkiddnj on Feb 20, 2011 9:48 AM EST up reply actions  

plus one

"Do you remember when Martin had a dream and Bobby had a regiment"

by killa kadafi191 on Feb 20, 2011 9:57 AM EST up reply actions  

I am not a subscriber to any of the major western religions but just because a person is atheist doesn’t automatically make them any more rational than a god fearing christian or a person that believes that there is more to our collective existence than what science can explain.

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by MrDollarBills on Feb 20, 2011 10:01 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Excuse the errors

I’m typing on my android

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by MrDollarBills on Feb 20, 2011 10:02 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

I didn’t claim that, re-read it. You committed a logical fallacy.

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by NBRITM on Feb 20, 2011 10:05 AM EST up reply actions  

You find irony in a logic based person believing in a religion. I have met many people in my life and just because someone may believe in an angry old god that would smite you for taking a piss, doesn’t mean that they they are incapable of being logical. There are atheists out there that are just as irrational as a religious fanatic. That’s all I was saying

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by MrDollarBills on Feb 20, 2011 10:22 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Mostly fair points, but that isn’t relevant to what I wrote.

Someone may believe in an angry old god that would smite you for taking a piss, doesn’t mean that they they are incapable of being logical.

It doesn’t mean that they’re incapable of being logical, but it suggests that in some facets of life they choose not to employ logic.

There are atheists out there that are just as irrational as a religious fanatic.

Without a doubt, doesn’t change the fact that those who claim (or are) religious are acting illogically.

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by NBRITM on Feb 20, 2011 10:28 AM EST up reply actions  

yes it does

"It's like a finger pointing at the moon. Do not focus on the finger, or you will miss all the heavenly glory beyond." - Bruce Lee

by Chakroot on Feb 20, 2011 10:05 AM EST up reply actions  

a single war for a god-less society

pales in comparison to the countless wars that have been waged with religion as justification

i haven’t posted in two days because i have nothing to say about carmelo anthony, but if we’re going to start religion, and mention bill maher, i can’t sit on the sidelines

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by Chakroot on Feb 20, 2011 10:10 AM EST up reply actions  

it goes beyond simple threats of violence and other terroristic acts...

its people who are so convinced by their mythologies that they attempt to dictate how other people should live their lives. its how religion is the cure-all bail out to justify almost any type of action against another individual. its how people who choose to believe in a superior being often find themselves being used as political and/or socio-economic chess pieces in a power struggle that often disregards them as people entirely.

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by Chakroot on Feb 20, 2011 10:17 AM EST up reply actions  

Theology is ignorance with wings.
Tell a devout Christian that his wife is cheating on him, or that frozen yogurt can make a man invisible, and he is likely to require as much evidence as anyone else, and to be persuaded only to the extent that you give it. Tell him that the book he keeps by his bed was written by an invisible deity who will punish him with fire for eternity if he fails to accept its every incredible claim about the universe, and he seems to require no evidence what so ever.
According to the most common interpretation of biblical prophecy, Jesus will return only after things have gone horribly awry. Imagine the consequences if any significant component of the U.S. government believed that the world was about to end and that its ending would be glorious. The fact that nearly half of the American population apparently believes this should be considered a moral and intellectual emergency.
Recently , crowds of thousands gathered throughout the Muslim world – burning European embassies, issuing threats, taking hostages, even killing people – in protest over twelve cartoons depicting the Prophet Muhammad that were first published in a Danish newspaper. When was the last atheist riot?
The only angels we need invoke are those of our better nature: reason, honesty, and love. The only demons we must fear are those that lurk inside every human mind: ignorance, hatred, greed, and faith, which is surely the devil’s masterpiece.

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by NBRITM on Feb 20, 2011 10:23 AM EST up reply actions  

A single war for a god-less society pales in comparison to the countless wars that have been waged with religion as justification.

Amen.

The Token Black-Jew

by NBRITM on Feb 20, 2011 10:14 AM EST up reply actions  

I agree with you on religion and war. I just don’t assume that everyone who is religious is an irrational idiot, despite my views on religions.

And bill mahr is the man.

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by MrDollarBills on Feb 20, 2011 10:25 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Chak, NB..

I wish we had a board on here for off topic discussions, we have some similar views. I could talk about this stuff all day

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by MrDollarBills on Feb 20, 2011 10:28 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Here is the thing

I saw on the other thread that folks took offense to my commentary about the nets making asses out out of themselves…but its the truth.

We are acting like a 2nd class franchise.

No one respects beggars in this world. Men that stand up and have self respect get respect. I don’t see that. I see a franchise with low self esteem, getting worked from all angles. You know what prostitutes are? People w. low self esteem that allow themselves to be used and abused. This is how the Nets are acting.

You worry too much about getting asses in seats via the quick fix, you may end up with the outcome that you don’t want.

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by MrDollarBills on Feb 20, 2011 9:52 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Honestly though. We are the Nets we can't walk around and act like we are the Lakers

we gotta pay more than NY LA and Boston to get the top guys if we want them. So we have to “beg” thts how I look at it, but once we get that guy everything should be different. I Dnt think with Carmelo in Brooklyn the nets would have to Beg

by nwkiddnj on Feb 20, 2011 9:57 AM EST up reply actions  

Melo had to be forced to meet with the nets. That says it all, I wouldn’t bother with someone that would prefer to play with his butt buddy instead of taking 65 mil and working with the league’s richest owner to build a global franchise

In my old neighborhood we had a word for the guys that bent over backwords for chicks that were clearly using them and had no regard for them: simps.

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by MrDollarBills on Feb 20, 2011 10:11 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

I come from union county

If you consider hoodrats ‘hot’, then sure.

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by MrDollarBills on Feb 20, 2011 10:31 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Its all the same

I’ve lived in Passaic and Essex County and they are pretty even. Union is a little better but the best ones I’ve dated were from Middlesex County hands down

Help! I'm a Nets fan :(

Machine and Ammo locked and loaded!

by cedaghost on Feb 20, 2011 5:40 PM EST up reply actions  

Honestly DB, that’s why it’s hard to fight all of my friends trying to bring me over to the Knicks side. The Knicks match my personality a lot more than the Nets do, I think begging is a disgusting quality, plus I hate Jersey. I don’t want to be a bandwagoner though, that’s why I’m still here.

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by NBRITM on Feb 20, 2011 9:59 AM EST up reply actions  

I have several friends that are knick fans

…and I have no problems telling them to kiss my net loving ass. They can’t sway me lol

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by MrDollarBills on Feb 20, 2011 10:14 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

it all be over soon enough and at the end

The best possible outcome for us is to make the NYK pay as much as possible. Forget the pride. That’s been out the door since LBj. We need Denver to leverage as much out of them as possible. He said he wanted to be a Knicks from the beginning. Why is everyone so surprised and heart broken? Give me a break.

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by NJNM on Feb 20, 2011 10:41 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

My question is who is the "mole" in the Anthony organization who keeps leaking stories that don't seem to be quite accurate.

If Melo had already agreed to meeting with Proky, in order to meet with Dolan (that meeting was supposedly requested to see if Dolan was serious about wanting him), then why wouldn’t the truth be known until AFTER the Nets meeting.

by jerry25 on Feb 20, 2011 9:38 AM EST reply actions  

I think most of us knew Melo would be a Knick in August, but suppressed it — myself and a few others excluded — because that’s what being fan is about.

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by NBRITM on Feb 20, 2011 9:45 AM EST up reply actions  

It's all up to Denver'choice

If they force the hand (i don’t think but it’s a possibility) Melo can be a Net. A give a 10% of happening

Brooklyn we go hard...

by Fabio Villani on Feb 20, 2011 9:46 AM EST up reply actions  

My Odds:

Knicks – 90%
Nuggets – 9.9%
Nets – 0.1%

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by NBRITM on Feb 20, 2011 9:49 AM EST up reply actions  

I predict, Melo be a knick, and we get Kyrie Erving.

Irving
Morrow
Green
Favors
Lopez

vs

Billups
Field
Melo
Amare
Turiaf

the Knick will lose Felton, Gallinari, and Mozgov others…

Amare breaks his knee in his second year as a knick.

And the Nets will have a better record next season.

by jarkid on Feb 20, 2011 9:46 AM EST reply actions  

Nah if they going to lose then lose without giving money to talent or role players

Lopez / Petro
Favors / Draft
Draft / James
Draft / Draft
Draft / Farmar

Three of those guys could be top 8. And two will be late first rounders good enough for 2 bench/ Role players.

by JJ25 on Feb 20, 2011 9:59 AM EST up reply actions  

Lmfaooooooo "breaks his knee"

i really hope he doesn’t lose his knees but just the way u said it got me in tears

by nwkiddnj on Feb 20, 2011 10:05 AM EST up reply actions  

Breaks his knee no. Career ending knee injury yes. And not next year but this year in the playoffs.
And to watch and hear Carmelo cry when he finds out his good friends career is over.

by rvc666 on Feb 20, 2011 11:21 AM EST up reply actions  

Would rather a vet like Tayshaun Prince who plays D over Green who will surely be overpaid.

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by Maxyboy on Feb 20, 2011 10:15 AM EST up reply actions  

No news through the ASG is good news for Nets. As long as Knicks remain confident but don't offer more, Nuggets will take Nets offer.

Vecsey seems convinced that Nuggets weren’t trying to use the Nets to get more from Knicks. If true, then Nuggets are on Nets side.

What we seem to know now is that even if Melo may have joked with friends that he’s not signing with Nets, he has never ruled out that possibility as far as the Nuggets and Nets are concerned. And he still wants the money.

What is also now very clear, is that Walsh is effectively no longer GM and Knicks FO is in disarray (see Woj article. Woj is very upset about this).
How could Dolan broker the details of a deal with the goal posts still moving?

And finally, with the Knicks likely to be “gutted” more, wouldn’t Melo have serious reservations – not to mention the instability of that organization in light of the return of Isiah Thomas?

by jerry25 on Feb 20, 2011 9:48 AM EST reply actions  

U still want this guy? He is jerkin to the idea of being a knick and he won’t stop until he is there. If he comes here it will be for the wrong reasons. Give me a guy who wants to be here. If melo isn’t thrilled about being here, will he play 100%. I don’t need this ego maniac, to watch the nets, plus we are getting fleeced.

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by njnets on Feb 20, 2011 10:06 AM EST via mobile reply actions  

Only role players wants to be here

We need to be a legit NBA team.

Brooklyn we go hard...

by Fabio Villani on Feb 20, 2011 10:08 AM EST up reply actions  

i think the idea of being a net

for melo isn’t as negative as people make it sound. He may believe in Proky’s vision and he’s mentioned it in the media. I think what he’s afraid of is the stability of the the organization. Neither Nets or Knicks have been that stable over the past few seasons, but he’s sold on NY, just because it’s the Knicks. I’m sure his advisors have told him the risk of playing under an Isiah controlled environment, if Zeke ever does return. But he’s willing to take that risk. What he may not understand is that he could be the beginning of a strong nucleus for the Nets. I guess what I’m saying is the risk of joining each team is equal when it comes to stability and the chance to win a championship in 3 – 5 years. But i think he fears the risk is bigger in NJ.

by Versifiervt on Feb 20, 2011 10:10 AM EST reply actions  

unmentioned unddertone

At this point, I find it hard to ignore the underlying philosophical significance of having a player demand a trade to a one-team list before their contract expires.

Aside from wanting to accept the best offer, I think the Nuggets don’t want to set the precedent for being controlled by their employees to that degree.

The leverage war being fought right now has serious consequences.If the Nuggets can force Melo to accept their preference, they gain FO leverage for the entire league.

by Kidd Shizzle on Feb 20, 2011 10:13 AM EST reply actions  

thats crazy

bob ley literally just started discussing that.

by Kidd Shizzle on Feb 20, 2011 10:14 AM EST up reply actions  

I haven't been keeping up with the Melodramatic threads because I think it's common knowlege Melo will be a Knick

No need to go through 1000+ comments every thread. Having said that, Prokhorov is a liar and a fool. He told the Nets to back out of the Melo trade and said the decision was final…and then he goes right back into them. That means players, agents, fans, etc. can’t take him at his word. He is a flat out liar. Anything he says about any player henceforth can’t be taken seriously. Anything he says in an interview from now on, I will take with a grain of salt. He’s just another used car salesman willing to lie to your face.

Also, we were told billionaires don’t beg. Wrong. They apparently do during All Star weekend. This guy is a liar and a beggar. What a fool. Dave D. was right about him. I can’t think of a single example of him using cunning and skill to benefit the Nets. All I see is that he knows how to spend money. That doesn’t impress me. Spend money on charity if you want to impress me with your spending.

Melo will be a Knick, which was obvious once Prokhorov pulled out in January. Going back into trade discussions has done nothing but irreparably damage Prokhorov’s reputation.

Now let’s embrace the youth movement which we should have been doing at the start of this season rather than alienating 75% of the current roster is a desperate bid for “star” just so we can pay the rent in Brooklyn.

Nets = Global
Knicks = Local

by BigTom on Feb 20, 2011 10:13 AM EST reply actions   1 recs

Um ok

Section 18, Row 7 at The Rock!

by eLonepb on Feb 20, 2011 10:14 AM EST up reply actions  

Um ok

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by Maxyboy on Feb 20, 2011 10:17 AM EST up reply actions  

ummm.... akaaaaaaaay?

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by Chakroot on Feb 20, 2011 10:20 AM EST up reply actions  

mmmkay

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by Chakroot on Feb 20, 2011 10:21 AM EST up reply actions  

lmao!

NoMelo Era Record: 7-9

by Andy. on Feb 20, 2011 10:31 AM EST up reply actions  

Um ok

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by NetsMets4Life on Feb 20, 2011 11:32 AM EST up reply actions  

Here's what I don't get

If Melo has indeed refused to sign an extension with the Nets, why don’t the Nets know this? Why dont the Knicks??

Everything he supposedly wants could be his if he just informed e Nets FO that he’s not going to sign. Denver would lose leverage, the Knicks could lower their offer so that the team isn’t gutted, and Melo will getbwhat he wants!

What is the advantage to not telling the Nets he won’t sign, or having his agent do it?

I really sometimes doubt the things you hear when they fly in the ace of logic. We all ask Melo to do us a favor and tell it straight – but maybe he has, and people just don’t believe it?

Someone has his agent’s number. Why aren’t we hearing that the Nets have been informed he will not sign?

I don’t get it.

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by eLonepb on Feb 20, 2011 10:13 AM EST reply actions  

I think he wouldn't want te Knicks to know he wouldn't come to the nets because

then they an say well he only wants us well wait for FA to sign him. He’s forcing them to make a move so he can get his money

by nwkiddnj on Feb 20, 2011 10:15 AM EST up reply actions  

But he met with them!

He can tell them he’ll stay in Denver. That’s the same threat.

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by eLonepb on Feb 20, 2011 10:17 AM EST up reply actions  

I would have worded it differently, but this.

The Token Black-Jew

by NBRITM on Feb 20, 2011 10:17 AM EST up reply actions  

. . .

The Token Black-Jew

by NBRITM on Feb 20, 2011 10:24 AM EST up reply actions  

True

i shoulda had a pause somewhere in that comment just didn’t know where.

by nwkiddnj on Feb 20, 2011 10:27 AM EST up reply actions  

Are you a writer?… I could use some beer and medicine money. Let me know, lol.

The Token Black-Jew

by NBRITM on Feb 20, 2011 10:30 AM EST up reply actions  

Isiah Thomas and the Knicks dysfunction is the story here. If that should blow up in the media, Melo will have 2nd thoughts.

Nothing is going to get finalized today. There will be time for everyone to step back and realize that Knicks would be gutted and in disarray.

by jerry25 on Feb 20, 2011 10:16 AM EST up reply actions  

Maybe that's what the meeting was for.

Now the Nets FO knows for sure he won’t sign.

"I don’t think we want to be like the Knicks. I think we’d more like to resemble the Lakers." - Mikhail Prokhorov

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by Maxyboy on Feb 20, 2011 10:16 AM EST up reply actions  

Then why hasnt this been reported?

People close to Melo are apparently being told, but none of thhe teams involved are?

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by eLonepb on Feb 20, 2011 10:17 AM EST up reply actions  

IDK

Tweets were going out that the Nets were “not optimistic.”

"I don’t think we want to be like the Knicks. I think we’d more like to resemble the Lakers." - Mikhail Prokhorov

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by Maxyboy on Feb 20, 2011 10:18 AM EST up reply actions  

Makes sense. Believe things when they’re good news and then dismiss them when they’re not. That sounds familiar.

The Token Black-Jew

by NBRITM on Feb 20, 2011 10:25 AM EST up reply actions  

Sounds about right

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by eLonepb on Feb 20, 2011 10:38 AM EST up reply actions  

I believe progress is made when its quiet. Like right now :)

NoMelo Era Record: 7-9

by Andy. on Feb 20, 2011 10:43 AM EST up reply actions  

Think about it: How is that possible to know what BKing, Proky and Yormarket are thinking, when only Melo and his 2 associates were at the restaurant??

If anything it is to the Nets advantage to get the Knicks overconfident and not to agree to Nuggets increased demands.

As long as Nuggets desperately want to trade him to Nets(below) and Melo would in the end sign with Nets, if necessary, is what counts.

And the disarray in Knicks FO and hoping that Dolan doesn’t(can’t) negotiation what Nuggets want is what will determine this.

Nets have little control over that.

by jerry25 on Feb 20, 2011 10:31 AM EST up reply actions  

at some point

the Nuggets will either make the deal with the Knicks or tell Melo they cannot make the deal and if he really wants that $65 million, he will get it from New Jersey. It would a mutually assured destruction conversation. Nuggets would get nothing back for him if he becomes a free agent and he would have no guarantee of any money beyond June 30.

I suspect one of those two things will happen tomorrow…at the latest.

by Net Income on Feb 20, 2011 10:17 AM EST up reply actions  

Agreed but

I’m not buying this idea that he’s so adamant about not being in NJ. I get that the Knicks are his preferred destination, and I don’t blame him.

But he’s clearly let other teams know they weren’t an option at all. But not the Nets?

Ugh can’t wait for this to be over.

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by eLonepb on Feb 20, 2011 10:20 AM EST up reply actions  

Yes but.............

why did he almost have to be forced into a meeting with the Nets. I agree he has the Knicks #1 but also might have them #2 and #3 as well. He also could have re-signing with Denver above signing with the Nets also. If he wanted toi be here as a back-up to the Knicks then why has he made it so hard for the Nets to get a concrete answer from him? I believe it’s the Knicks or bust with Melo and that’s fine with me. I rather build through the draft and keep our picks for future trades.

by gambi99 on Feb 20, 2011 10:26 AM EST up reply actions  

Again, if you believe that

Prokhorov also said he had no plans to meet. Noing coming out is anything other than posturing and without a direct intention.

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by eLonepb on Feb 20, 2011 10:39 AM EST up reply actions  

I have to believe..........
All the signs since this started with Melo have him set on the Knicks. The Nets time and time again have made big strides to land him but Melo could never give an answer to the Nets. I understand he wants the Knicks first but he never seem to be interested in ever hearing what the Nets had to offer. At least Lebron actually met with Mr.P and co. and was impressed by them when he left the metting. Melo went there with a gun to his head and left without saying anything and leaving the Nets front-office very unconfident.

by gambi99 on Feb 20, 2011 10:52 AM EST up reply actions  

Again, if you believe that

And if you do, then why not believe the Nuggets forced Prokhorov to meet as well, despite not wanting to?

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by eLonepb on Feb 20, 2011 10:55 AM EST up reply actions  

I can't blame Prokhorov...

for wanting Melo and we all know he wants Melo. He is trying to keep things quiet and trying to save face during this whole process. This is why he puts stuff out like “we have no plan metting with melo” and you know what he might not actually had a metting plan with Melo. Maybe Melo said no at first but then changed his mind when Denver pressured Melo. I’m just saying that Melo wants no part of the Nets, especially when the knicks are knocking at his door.

by gambi99 on Feb 20, 2011 11:17 AM EST up reply actions  

the underlying premise of the Knicks risk

and it is a risk, is that they will be able to get Deron Williams or Chris Paul to complete the super team.

Problem is that for the next four years, the Knicks will have two players with $20 million a year deals. No way to bring in another superstar with a more restrictive CBA.

If I am Knicks, I go balls to the wall for Ricky Rubio. His people recently said that he wants to play in New York, Boston or Miami.

by Net Income on Feb 20, 2011 10:15 AM EST reply actions  

Think of all the assists he would rack up playing for the Heat.

Do the Nets like Rubio?

He wants to play in New York and his agent is Dan Fegan.

"I don’t think we want to be like the Knicks. I think we’d more like to resemble the Lakers." - Mikhail Prokhorov

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by Maxyboy on Feb 20, 2011 10:19 AM EST up reply actions  

He'll be a great fit in NY if they get Melo

on a cheap rookie contract they can focus on getting some bigs

by nwkiddnj on Feb 20, 2011 10:20 AM EST up reply actions  

Where is the source that says Nuggets looking for a 2nd pick and/or Mozgov. I couldn't find mention of a 2nd pick?

Denver Post still reports:

Nuggets desperately try to steer Anthony toward the Nets.

As listed above:
http://www.denverpost.com/nuggets/ci_17434321?source=rss

Bottom line is that Nets need Melo a lot more than Knicks do.
Knicks can still get someone later within their salary limits, and not GUT their team now, as Nuggets are trying to do.

by jerry25 on Feb 20, 2011 10:23 AM EST reply actions  

The Denver Post ripped into the Nuggets today: http://www.denverpost.com/sports/ci_17434320?source=rss

So it should be no surprise the Nuggets have appeared to be a basketball organization riding on training wheels and aimlessly circling all season long. This Melodrama drags on and on because Denver has been unable to cut a deal for one of the league’s most prolific scorers.

"I don’t think we want to be like the Knicks. I think we’d more like to resemble the Lakers." - Mikhail Prokhorov

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by Maxyboy on Feb 20, 2011 10:23 AM EST reply actions  

I think they've done a fine job considering

They are going to get a pretty good deal for Melo with either the Knicks or Nets. Not sure why people are hating on them in Denver. If we could’ve gotten a deal like that for VC or Kidd, I’d be ecstatic.

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by eLonepb on Feb 20, 2011 10:41 AM EST up reply actions  

Yea lets go "Balls to the wall" like Nets Income said!

Jk, I hate Ricky Rubio even more now. He wants to be on a championship caliber team… Really.

by Nets 12-70 on Feb 20, 2011 10:24 AM EST reply actions  

Seriously. Rubio will average like 15 dimes a game.

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by Maxyboy on Feb 20, 2011 10:26 AM EST up reply actions  

Actually I dont know about that

Seems like the point guard roll with Wade and Lebron is to hand the ball off at the top of the key and become a spot up shooter. Not something Rubio excels at.

by NetProfit on Feb 20, 2011 10:46 AM EST up reply actions  

but 0 points.

He’ll be an assist specialist.

NoMelo Era Record: 7-9

by Andy. on Feb 20, 2011 10:47 AM EST up reply actions  

Zoran part deux

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by eLonepb on Feb 20, 2011 10:52 AM EST up reply actions  

I just hope this goes through, nets are holding off on other deals probably just to keep themselves as a threat to the knicks in the melo trade, there are plenty of players you can make moves for

by Benl1 on Feb 20, 2011 10:27 AM EST reply actions  

The Future:

Brandan Wright
Rudy Fernandez
Andre Miller
Dan Gadzuric
Joel Pryzbilla

"I don’t think we want to be like the Knicks. I think we’d more like to resemble the Lakers." - Mikhail Prokhorov

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by Maxyboy on Feb 20, 2011 10:29 AM EST up reply actions  

I'll take it.................

at least these players might actually WANT to play here!!

by gambi99 on Feb 20, 2011 10:31 AM EST up reply actions  

Fernandez said he doesn't

even though in the summer he was dying to play for the Nets.

by JJ25 on Feb 20, 2011 10:32 AM EST up reply actions  

Rubio is a scrub

I am going to turn this team around 360 Degrees- Jason Kidd

by njnets on Feb 20, 2011 10:30 AM EST via mobile reply actions   1 recs

The Nets have three pending deals or than this one they like to pursue.

Haven’t seen the Nets this active since ever.

Lopez / Petro / Dan / Pryzbilla
Favors / Hump / Wright
James / Butler / Graham
Morrow / Vujacic / Ross
Miller / Farmar / Uzoh

by JJ25 on Feb 20, 2011 10:30 AM EST reply actions  

Rudy?

"I don’t think we want to be like the Knicks. I think we’d more like to resemble the Lakers." - Mikhail Prokhorov

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by Maxyboy on Feb 20, 2011 10:33 AM EST up reply actions  

NI said they aren't giving up Morrow and Rudy is contractually obligated to play.

"I don’t think we want to be like the Knicks. I think we’d more like to resemble the Lakers." - Mikhail Prokhorov

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by Maxyboy on Feb 20, 2011 10:36 AM EST up reply actions  

I one day they went from Melo

to Rasual Butler.

If Morrow isn’t in the deal, good if he is don’t really care.

by JJ25 on Feb 20, 2011 10:39 AM EST up reply actions  

Twitter is deal

love the silence. So peaceful.

NoMelo Era Record: 7-9

by Andy. on Feb 20, 2011 10:33 AM EST reply actions  

dead* lol

NoMelo Era Record: 7-9

by Andy. on Feb 20, 2011 10:39 AM EST up reply actions  

Hey Amare

Good job not standing behind your current point guard.

“Chauncey’s obviously a solid player,” said Stoudemire, the first Knicks player to start in an All-Star Game since Patrick Ewing in 1992. “He’s won championships, he knows how to win. Anytime you get veteran guys together you can work anything out. It’s a matter of how it pans out. You want to have a veteran team. Anytime you win a championship you have to have playoff experience. That’s what Chauncey has. They call him ‘Big Shot’ for a reason.”

Stoudemire said he hopes the trade happens soon and denied he was against the deal.

by Anthony Perez on Feb 20, 2011 10:34 AM EST reply actions  

These rumors are very destructive.

NoMelo Era Record: 7-9

by Andy. on Feb 20, 2011 10:35 AM EST up reply actions  

I know...............

Felton must feel like Devin Harris now!

by gambi99 on Feb 20, 2011 10:36 AM EST up reply actions  

Carmelo going to New Yawk.

Stoudemire seems so sure, and I don’t know why.

by JJ25 on Feb 20, 2011 10:36 AM EST up reply actions  

Lord. If this trade doesn't get done, there will be hell in the locker room.

I feel bad for Felton. he just got out of Charlotte and is bing rerouted to Colorado.

"I don’t think we want to be like the Knicks. I think we’d more like to resemble the Lakers." - Mikhail Prokhorov

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by Maxyboy on Feb 20, 2011 10:37 AM EST up reply actions  

and after that..they’ll probably trade him again. lol

NoMelo Era Record: 7-9

by Andy. on Feb 20, 2011 10:38 AM EST up reply actions  

Good point. Amare should never have said that.

Privately he was earlier said to be against Gutting the team. The word “Gutted” was used.

by jerry25 on Feb 20, 2011 10:38 AM EST up reply actions  

STOP BEGGING, get off your knees NJ. Your franchise and owner has looked sad long enough through this whole thing. Amar’e is not taking shots at his current point guard, he is supporting his current point guard Chauncey Billups… to think that Amar’e (one of Melo’s best friends and therefore one of the best "sources"" doesn’t know exactly what Melo is thinking is crazy denial.

by knicks24 on Feb 20, 2011 10:46 AM EST up reply actions  

Amar’e is not taking shots at his current point guard, he is supporting his current point guard Chauncey Billups…

No loyalty I see

NoMelo Era Record: 7-9

by Andy. on Feb 20, 2011 10:48 AM EST up reply actions  

The deal is already done, they are waiting until after the All Star game, to avoid the whole switching East to West confusion, stop having 2000 comment threads about a guy who met with your team because the Nuggets made him.

by knicks24 on Feb 20, 2011 10:49 AM EST up reply actions   2 recs

Glad you got it figured out

The sports world could use your connections and insight in the journalism arena.

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by eLonepb on Feb 20, 2011 10:51 AM EST up reply actions  

Rec’d.

The Token Black-Jew

by NBRITM on Feb 20, 2011 11:00 AM EST up reply actions  

We're begging?

As Dolan continues to give up every player on his roster? To add a scoring machine to a team that is already one of the highest scoring teams in the league?

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by eLonepb on Feb 20, 2011 10:50 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Knicks really aren’t giving up that much. They are going to get a bunch of solid bench players back from Denver to make the money work anyways. Azibukie is also coming back very soon.

Billups/Douglas
Fields/Azibukie/Walker
Melo/Shawne
Amare/Sheldon
Mozgov/Turiaf/Birdman?

by knicks24 on Feb 20, 2011 10:54 AM EST up reply actions  

i would kill to stick the the Knicks with "head fake" Birdman and his SHITTY contract.

you can have him Knicks fan. The fact that you want him tells me you don’t watch any teams outside of the knicks at all

Tebow! Tebow! Tebow!

by Bronco546 on Feb 20, 2011 2:27 PM EST up reply actions  

Then why worry about posting on a Nets board?

Because you lose another player with every passing hour?

Even a Knick fan would have to admit, as long as you are owned by Dolan, you can never be secure….You can get Melo and Dolan will find a way to ruin it for you.

Your franchise has been an embarrassment to the league for over a decade, in what SHOULD be one of the easiest places to build a consistent winner.

How have you screwed up Manhattan real estate for so long.

by NetProfit on Feb 20, 2011 10:53 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Netsdaily is a great place for updates on the situation because it has every single Net fan here posting twitter updates.

by knicks24 on Feb 20, 2011 10:55 AM EST up reply actions  

Hey Knicks fan do you think Amar’e and Melo are still going to be best friends when Amar’e has a career ending knee injury some time this year and Melo figures out he’s in it by himself now.

by rvc666 on Feb 20, 2011 11:35 AM EST up reply actions  

New article by Al: http://www.northjersey.com/sports/pro_sports/basketball/022011_Nets_get_their_chance_to_convince_Carmelo_to_come_to_Jersey.html

Pretty much a summary of the past few days.

"I don’t think we want to be like the Knicks. I think we’d more like to resemble the Lakers." - Mikhail Prokhorov

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by Maxyboy on Feb 20, 2011 10:36 AM EST reply actions  

do we have a future without melo?

what do we have to be proud of the nets?? can CP3 or Deron Williams come to the nets without Melo?

by XvarriorX on Feb 20, 2011 10:38 AM EST reply actions  

How about......

we draft our superstars like other teams do…..Denver drafted Melo……OKC drafted durant….maybe we can draft our superstars…just a thought

by gambi99 on Feb 20, 2011 10:39 AM EST up reply actions  

you got to be lucky

Memphis with the 2nd pick drafted Thabeet, Clippers drafted Olowakandi…it’s just lucky.

Brooklyn we go hard...

by Fabio Villani on Feb 20, 2011 10:43 AM EST up reply actions  

well.................

we lucked out the past few years on draft day (excluding last year for now with favors)….maybe we finally hit the big one!!!

by gambi99 on Feb 20, 2011 10:55 AM EST up reply actions  

If you want to hope for improbable things...

Maybe the Nets can draft a few impact players and look respectable next year, maybe sneak into the playoffs. Draft another impact talent with the GSW pick.

Roll into Brooklyn with a young team on the rise to sell to free agents.

"I don’t think we want to be like the Knicks. I think we’d more like to resemble the Lakers." - Mikhail Prokhorov

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by Maxyboy on Feb 20, 2011 10:41 AM EST up reply actions  

That's all we can.....

hope for right now while still being in New Jersey. Maybe once we move to Brooklyn we can attract other freeagents then being in NY and having an up-and-coming team hopefully with Brook playing better and Favors and whoever we draft this year.

by gambi99 on Feb 20, 2011 10:44 AM EST up reply actions  

Nothing happening until at least until after ASG

I have other things to do. Melodrama ruined another weekend for me.

Hope there is time for the Dolan/Isiah Thomas story to blow up (unfortunately ESPN will try to keep it quiet) and scare Knicks fans as well as Melo.

Read the Woj story to learn more about Isiah Thomas influence:
http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;_ylt=Agwv70fPLo6Eoqv4wgkIB9.8vLYF?slug=aw-thomasknicks022011

See ya.

by jerry25 on Feb 20, 2011 10:43 AM EST reply actions  

Btw anyone notice Philly.

They are going to tip NY for that spot if Melo isn’t with them

by nwkiddnj on Feb 20, 2011 10:44 AM EST reply actions  

Philly is ballin.

They’re clicking. Jrue Holiday running the show.

NoMelo Era Record: 7-9

by Andy. on Feb 20, 2011 10:45 AM EST up reply actions  

We could've had him instead of T-Will...

"I don’t think we want to be like the Knicks. I think we’d more like to resemble the Lakers." - Mikhail Prokhorov

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by Maxyboy on Feb 20, 2011 10:53 AM EST up reply actions  

steal by philly…steal!

NoMelo Era Record: 7-9

by Andy. on Feb 20, 2011 10:54 AM EST up reply actions  

Number 17

"I don’t think we want to be like the Knicks. I think we’d more like to resemble the Lakers." - Mikhail Prokhorov

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by Maxyboy on Feb 20, 2011 10:55 AM EST up reply actions  

quick fixes are difficult to come by.

So yeah that sounds like a plan.

NoMelo Era Record: 7-9

by Andy. on Feb 20, 2011 10:44 AM EST reply actions  

my bad.

@Maxy..

NoMelo Era Record: 7-9

by Andy. on Feb 20, 2011 10:44 AM EST up reply actions  

I can't wait to see Melo and Amare clog up the Knicks cap space

With Amare is Armani suits at the end of the bench while Melo plays with D-Leaguers who they can afford.

Even better, Isiah Thomas will once again be making personnel decisions that will have the team perpetually missing the playoffs or getting quickly bounced.

Walsh’s peers are embarrassed for him, but no one is too surprised. James Dolan has forever lusted for Thomas, and no level of shame, no humiliation, no embarrassment can keep them apart. The Knicks are giving up far too much for Anthony, and that doesn’t end with the players in the proposed package. Dolan sold this franchise’s soul a long time ago, and now that old, failed partnership is promising a second act that comes straight out of hell.

Carmelo Anthony could be on the way to New York, Donnie Walsh could be on the way out, and one thing has never been so certain: Isiah Thomas has big, big ideas for the future of the franchise.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;_ylt=Agwv70fPLo6Eoqv4wgkIB9.8vLYF?slug=aw-thomasknicks022011

by Anthony Perez on Feb 20, 2011 10:45 AM EST reply actions  

If isiah is going to be running the Knicks again

I’m beginning to hope that Melonactually does go there!

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by eLonepb on Feb 20, 2011 10:48 AM EST up reply actions  

Lol. Melon don't mind if I use that one?

Sure it’s sweet and it looks good, but it’s also porous.

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by Maxyboy on Feb 20, 2011 10:53 AM EST up reply actions  

Lol

Damn iPad

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by eLonepb on Feb 20, 2011 10:56 AM EST up reply actions  

Out of all the SuperStars 27 of age and under

Name three that wouldn’t like this type of Drama.
1.) Kevin Durant
2.) Dwight Howard
3.) Chris Paul

by JJ25 on Feb 20, 2011 10:47 AM EST reply actions  

Nah

You have to know the difference though, CP3 wants to win they put more pieces around him so he will cooperate.

by JJ25 on Feb 20, 2011 10:50 AM EST up reply actions  

Actually last summer....

when people first hinted he wanted out, the Nets inquired about him and he did say “YES” to be traded to NJ if a deal could be made. I rather have Paul then Melo right now becaue of that.

by gambi99 on Feb 20, 2011 10:58 AM EST up reply actions  

not sure about paul

by valdu08 on Feb 20, 2011 10:48 AM EST up reply actions  

It was said during the offseason that Carmelo wished he was in the same freeagent class as Lebron, Bosh and Wade.

He wanted the same attention Lebron got.

Well he got his wish.. Over 1/2 a Year of drama and he got his meetings with owners.

NoMelo Era Record: 7-9

by Andy. on Feb 20, 2011 10:51 AM EST up reply actions  

Confused about the new CBA...

NI said above that since the Knicks will have 20 mil going to 2 players each for the next 4 years, they wont be able to afford a 3rd star.

What exactly will the cap look like in 2012? Can they afford a 3rd MAX player?

I keep having this argument with my Kncks friend and would like some info.

by cody1234 on Feb 20, 2011 10:47 AM EST reply actions  

nice in the top 6-8

NoMelo Era Record: 7-9

by Andy. on Feb 20, 2011 10:54 AM EST up reply actions  

Irving
T.Jones
P.Jones
Sullinger
Derrick Williams
Harrison Barnes

would all help the Nets. basically, as long as we get a top 6 pick, we’re guaranteed a good piece.

"I don’t think we want to be like the Knicks. I think we’d more like to resemble the Lakers." - Mikhail Prokhorov

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by Maxyboy on Feb 20, 2011 10:55 AM EST up reply actions  

Just saying...

I took my kid and a friend to the movie theatre last night to drop them off but had to park…It was packed…As I was driving, I saw a car pulling out of a spot…I wound up having to cut the car hard as I was already past the entrance to that part of the lot, almost hitting the curb….Then raced to the spot to find out it was a handicapped spot..

PO’d, I kept driving mad that the spot was not free to be parked in….so I looped around and drove to the next section where, lo and behold, a person left the spot second to the end closest to the the Theatre. I parked in Prime A location…

Then I thought, the only reason I got this spot is because I went for that other one and missed…..Sometimes you do miss on something you think is good and wind up all the better for it.

Just saying…

by NetProfit on Feb 20, 2011 10:59 AM EST reply actions  

I can't believe you said Amare will be a handicap

His knees still have a few good years on them.

Section 18, Row 7 at The Rock!

by eLonepb on Feb 20, 2011 11:01 AM EST up reply actions  

The greatest metaphor of ALL-TIME.

The Token Black-Jew

by NBRITM on Feb 20, 2011 11:04 AM EST up reply actions  

I agree....

we will get Howard and Paul in 2012 and draft T.Jones this year

C-Lopez/Howard
PF- Howard/Favors
SF-T.Jones/James
SG-Morrow/Sasha
PG-Paul/Farmer

done deal…book it!!!

by gambi99 on Feb 20, 2011 11:03 AM EST up reply actions  

And then you called 1050?

The Token Black-Jew

by NBRITM on Feb 20, 2011 11:04 AM EST up reply actions  

by then...

New York will be cap strapped and Kobe will be on the downside if he’s not already, of his career. Howard wants a big-city so he’ll come to Brooklyn as long as we can get Paul to come with him…package deal for both. it’s a done deal….book it? :)

by gambi99 on Feb 20, 2011 11:07 AM EST up reply actions  

No

first I posted 1,000 negative comments acting as if I were somehow above the masses, then I called 1050

by NetProfit on Feb 20, 2011 11:07 AM EST up reply actions  

You think I’m negative?

The Token Black-Jew

by NBRITM on Feb 20, 2011 11:12 AM EST up reply actions  

I think

You think far too highly of yourself. But I guess thats good for you.

by NetProfit on Feb 20, 2011 11:13 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Rec’d.

The Token Black-Jew

by NBRITM on Feb 20, 2011 11:17 AM EST up reply actions  

What other 2011 FA are there other than Melo?

by Hooks on Feb 20, 2011 11:00 AM EST via mobile reply actions  

none.....

or should I say no big impact ones at least.

by gambi99 on Feb 20, 2011 11:03 AM EST up reply actions  

IMO Melo didn't mind the Nets in the off-season

becuase they wouldn’t have been a Joke to other players, now that they have made a joke of themselves this season, he doesn’t want to embarass them publicly by saying no.

by JJ25 on Feb 20, 2011 11:01 AM EST reply actions  

But they were set to become a

“Blueprint for Greatness”
People thought:
Farmar, Outlaw, Morrow, Petro, Favors, James, T-Will, Lopez, Harris, Avery, Proky, Jay-Z, Brooklyn was very promising before this season.

by JJ25 on Feb 20, 2011 11:07 AM EST up reply actions  

If you didn’t see that roster as a joke then I don’t know what to tell you. Outlaw, Morrow, Farmar, Petro? Comeon now. T-Will, James? Laughable. Harris? You should have known he was going to play half into it as soon as the Melo rumors started and he wasn’t on the untouchable list with Lopez. Favors is being crushed by Avery, who had that rep going in.

Lopez? He’ll be gone when he’s an unrestricted unless the Net’s front office changes.

by erniesto on Feb 20, 2011 11:17 AM EST up reply actions  

I agree. This deal could have gotten done in the offeseason

With Amare Isiah Spike Lee eyc in Melo’s ear all season, the nets ddin’t stand a chance.

by tategeorge on Feb 20, 2011 11:04 AM EST up reply actions  

Nuggets were in the middle of a management change .... and no way they were doing a deal that early

I guess in a perfect world you are right — but the Nets, Nuggets and these clown stars don’t constitute anything close to a perfect world.

by nynjlawyer on Feb 20, 2011 11:06 AM EST up reply actions  

Spike has no say

He’s just a fan. Besides, how can he be in Melo’s ear if Melo’s in Denver?

by lupojohn3 on Feb 20, 2011 11:11 AM EST up reply actions  

Three things to remember before you concede Melo to the Knicks

The media is bias against us. Yeah, I know. This point has been brought up many times, but with the age of Twitter, and all the other various ways to deliver news these days, the media can say anything they want. We all know that they won’t report fairly when its us and the Knicks going after a player, so when you read this stuff, remember this.

The Nuggets call the shots, not Melo. There’s a reason they’re asking for Mozgev. They’re don’t really want to deal with the Knicks anymore, cause, as the article says, the Knicks’ front office is in complete chaos and disarray. The Nuggets are essentially trying to force the Knicks out of this by asking for too much, cause even Dolan will have a breaking point.

Prokhorov trapped Dolan. The man is a genius. By posturing, he made it seem like we were out of it, made it seem like we weren’t meeting with Melo, and let the Knicks have the spotlight all to themselves. What made the Nuggets upset before? That the negotiations were too public. Considering that everyone agrees that the Nuggets prefer our offer, I wouldn’t be surprised if our front office and the Nuggets front office talked about this, and planned this all along. If we would have said that the meeting went well, the Knicks would have increased their offer, and essentially that forces the Nuggets to take the Knicks offer when they don’t really want to.

In the end, Melo’s not leaving all that money on the table. Someone will get in his ear today or tommorrow about this, and we’ll be able to close the deal.

by lupojohn3 on Feb 20, 2011 11:08 AM EST reply actions  

Although I like your enthusiasm

I just cant agree with Denver “having” to accept an increased Knicks deal. They raised the bar on the Nets deal so many times, why, if they dont want a Knicks deal in the end, can’t they continue that?

Because they are running out of time? If they really know that Melo needs the exntesion, then they have all the time in the world.

by NetProfit on Feb 20, 2011 11:12 AM EST up reply actions  

Melo wants it done by the end of today

He said the end of the weekend, which is today. The Nuggets will tell him, ‘’Look, we have to do what’s best for us. The Nets have the best package, and that’s what we’re taking. You have the chance to go home, and be a hero. They won’t agree to the trade unless you sign, so you better do it’’. The Nuggets FO doesn’t want to look like a bunch of you-know-whats. Besides, Net Income even said on a previous post that people close to him and the situation told him that this stuff that Melo wasn’t signing was untrue.

by lupojohn3 on Feb 20, 2011 11:22 AM EST up reply actions  

Don’t be so dense to consider, after looking at everything that Melo’s preference is this:

Denver for 3 years>Nets for 3 Years.

His confidant, Lebron, would advise the same.

Nets are out of this. DONE. Start thinking about who we want to draft in the Lottery rather than how you’re going to force a disgruntled star to play in NJ.

by erniesto on Feb 20, 2011 11:26 AM EST up reply actions  

I'm not dense

I’m realistic. Too much has been said and done for him to stay in Denver. That option is closed. Maybe once he gets here, he’ll feel differently. Remember, his whole family not only lives in Brooklyn, but in the same area where the Barclays Center is being built. I don’t blame you for thinking negatively. As a long suffering fan, that’s your mentality. I totally understand. I, however choose to think positively.

by lupojohn3 on Feb 20, 2011 11:29 AM EST up reply actions  

We should all be thankful of the Knicks...

from saving us from our own madness. Giving up the world for Melo is NOT the answer here. This team right now should build through the draft, keep aquiring assets and wait it out until 2012 when they get to Brookyln.by then we will have a clearer picture of what we can and cannot do. The free-agnet class will be great that year plus our younger kids might develop into something good, hopefully great. What we should be concentrating on is getting rid of outlaws contract. Maybe include a pick or two with it but his contact needs to go. Let the Knicks overpay for Melo, we are TOO far away to compete even if we get Melo and Billups. Lets wait it out boys!!!

by gambi99 on Feb 20, 2011 11:12 AM EST reply actions  

Latest News

Carmelo Anthony has changed his twitter picture to this:

I think this means something.

Little Melo - Brooklyn - Brooklyn Nets. Hmm…

NoMelo Era Record: 7-9

by Andy. on Feb 20, 2011 11:18 AM EST reply actions  

You should take up Augury or Haruspicy. I think you’d be good at it ;-)

by erniesto on Feb 20, 2011 11:21 AM EST up reply actions  

i feel insulted..lol

jk

NoMelo Era Record: 7-9

by Andy. on Feb 20, 2011 11:24 AM EST up reply actions  

I just can't imagine

Stoudemire / Ely
Turiaf / Williams / Balkman
Anthony / Azubuike
Fields / Walker / Rautins
Billups / Douglass

by JJ25 on Feb 20, 2011 11:21 AM EST reply actions  

Can't imagine this dragging out

4 more days.

My deadline Monday night if I’m the Nets.

by JJ25 on Feb 20, 2011 11:27 AM EST up reply actions  

Melo said he wants it done by tonight

So we’ll complette the deal after the ASG, and announce it either tommorrow or Tuesday.

by lupojohn3 on Feb 20, 2011 11:31 AM EST up reply actions  

Haha, we're all allowed one mistake

Besides, there’s no super team involved this time.

by lupojohn3 on Feb 20, 2011 11:33 AM EST up reply actions  

if Knicks don’t get Melo, their going to have a team full of players that know the owner would’ve gave all of them away if he wanted to. A GM who knows his owner doesn’t care what he thinks, and a mess that would be awesome to see unfold

by CStanley028 on Feb 20, 2011 11:38 AM EST up reply actions  

Good luck fellow Nets fans

Ought to be interesting to stay away from the news for a few hours and see the next round of “as the Melo turns”.

Ciao

by NetProfit on Feb 20, 2011 11:28 AM EST reply actions  

lol "huge fan base"

"You can spend minutes, hours, days weeks or even months overanalyzing a situation; trying to put the pieces together, justifying what would’ve, could’ve happened – or you can just leave the pieces on the floor and move the **** on."
-Tupac Amaru Shakur

by NetsMets4Life on Feb 20, 2011 11:37 AM EST up reply actions  

Al_Iannazzone

After Blueprint for Greatness mural that drove Dolan crazy, he now can really get his revenge on Nets. Dolan could include everything Den wants to make sure Nets don’t have a deal. With Isiah advising, u can see Dolan doing whatever it takes.

by CStanley028 on Feb 20, 2011 11:30 AM EST reply actions  

Al's posturing

Its part of Proky’s grand plan.

by lupojohn3 on Feb 20, 2011 11:32 AM EST up reply actions  

It's Feb 24 at 4pm

and the news release will read ; we will wait till the end of the year. Denver I believe is going to make Melo either take the extension with them or sign for less with the team he wants. Then Melo wakes up and realizes Denver is screwing him and all hell breaks lose. This is going to be great. I could even see him signing and extension with Denver and THEN demanding a trade while sitting out. This is a fight that’s just beginning.

if Denver comes crawling back and we offer up 3 first rounders and say no way you’re getting Favors..it would be an EPIC move by Prokhorov.
by NetsKiNG on Jan 20, 2011 10:01 PM EST up reply actions
Our savior, make it happen.

by msm2 on Feb 20, 2011 11:31 AM EST reply actions  

Doubt anything happens until after the ASG tonight

but I keep trying to leave my house, and it’s like there is a giant magnet attached to my computer that keeps pulling me back in.

by NetsKiNG on Feb 20, 2011 11:33 AM EST reply actions  

I expect them to interview Melo after the game and for him to announce “Yeah, I’m going to sign the extension and I’m going to New Jersey”

by CStanley028 on Feb 20, 2011 11:35 AM EST reply actions  

It just kills me that we had a deal in place and then the Knicks come in when they werent welcome.

"You can spend minutes, hours, days weeks or even months overanalyzing a situation; trying to put the pieces together, justifying what would’ve, could’ve happened – or you can just leave the pieces on the floor and move the **** on."
-Tupac Amaru Shakur

by NetsMets4Life on Feb 20, 2011 11:35 AM EST reply actions  

We still have that deal in place

The Nuggets are forcing the Knicks out by asking for so much, that Dolan will give up. Stay positive, my friend.

by lupojohn3 on Feb 20, 2011 11:37 AM EST up reply actions  

Dolan won't give up now that Isiah involved....

Let the knicks gut their team for melo….win-win for the Nets

by gambi99 on Feb 20, 2011 11:39 AM EST up reply actions  

Dolan giving up?

lol are you crazy? Isiah is advising him! He will give up every player on the roster (minus STAT) and 10 future 1st round picks before he gives up…

by Dylan87 on Feb 20, 2011 11:39 AM EST up reply actions  

Isiah is telling to Dolan to not back down, because he talks to Melo "daily" and that he wants to be a Knick.

"You can spend minutes, hours, days weeks or even months overanalyzing a situation; trying to put the pieces together, justifying what would’ve, could’ve happened – or you can just leave the pieces on the floor and move the **** on."
-Tupac Amaru Shakur

by NetsMets4Life on Feb 20, 2011 11:41 AM EST up reply actions  

im a knicks fan and i hate that dolan OR Isiah is involved let alone both of them

I think we will get Melo, but I think its a very bad thing in the long run.

by Dylan87 on Feb 20, 2011 11:43 AM EST up reply actions  

I would fear Isiah.

he is forcing his way back into Knicks organization.

"You can spend minutes, hours, days weeks or even months overanalyzing a situation; trying to put the pieces together, justifying what would’ve, could’ve happened – or you can just leave the pieces on the floor and move the **** on."
-Tupac Amaru Shakur

by NetsMets4Life on Feb 20, 2011 11:45 AM EST up reply actions  

I always had a feeling he would be back

Dolan is a fool and he loves Isiah for some reason. He set the stage when he credited Isiah with helping attract STAT to NY, and sent him on a last second desperate mission to get LeBron.

by Dylan87 on Feb 20, 2011 11:47 AM EST up reply actions  

The reason he loves Isiah is because somehow the moron is friends with these players.

And these players look up to him.

"You can spend minutes, hours, days weeks or even months overanalyzing a situation; trying to put the pieces together, justifying what would’ve, could’ve happened – or you can just leave the pieces on the floor and move the **** on."
-Tupac Amaru Shakur

by NetsMets4Life on Feb 20, 2011 11:52 AM EST up reply actions  

only problem is the guy cant run a team at all!

he give scrubs huge contracts, and doesn’t value future picks. He is always looking for a quick fix. The guy is clueless when it comes to building a team. Being a great player doesnt make you a good business man.

by Dylan87 on Feb 20, 2011 12:04 PM EST up reply actions  

Let me repost that

If you remember, earlier in the week, there was an ESPN.com report that said Melo was growing tired of the Knicks inability to complete a deal. His people may just tell the Knicks to forget it.

by lupojohn3 on Feb 20, 2011 11:45 AM EST up reply actions  

Highly doubtful.

He has wanted to be a Knick throughout the entire process, now that they are trying there is no reason at all for him to tell the Knicks to get lost.

"You can spend minutes, hours, days weeks or even months overanalyzing a situation; trying to put the pieces together, justifying what would’ve, could’ve happened – or you can just leave the pieces on the floor and move the **** on."
-Tupac Amaru Shakur

by NetsMets4Life on Feb 20, 2011 11:47 AM EST up reply actions  

Isn't that what the meeting with Dolan was far?

To see if the Knicks were committed to getting him? Reports were that Melo came away convinced that the Knicks were going to do everything possible to get him.

by Dylan87 on Feb 20, 2011 11:49 AM EST up reply actions  

If you believe that the Nets had a deal in place

if Denver comes crawling back and we offer up 3 first rounders and say no way you’re getting Favors..it would be an EPIC move by Prokhorov.
by NetsKiNG on Jan 20, 2011 10:01 PM EST up reply actions
Our savior, make it happen.

by msm2 on Feb 20, 2011 11:41 AM EST up reply actions  

The Nuclear option might come into play...

I forget which reporter wrote about it but can you imagine if the Knicks dont concede what Denver wants, then Denver tells Melo you take the Nets deal or you get nothing and like it? Denver would then pull their extension off the table also forcing Melo to take the Nets deal which is what Denver wants anyway.

That would be incredible on so many levels.

The owners need to take back their power from the players. This Melodrama has ruined the 1st 1/2 of a season. Deals were never this public b4.

If we dont get Melo I just want the Knicks to overpay. Bottomline.

by power_njerz on Feb 20, 2011 11:41 AM EST reply actions  

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