As New Trade Details and 'Melo-Prokhorov Meeting Plan Emerge, Extension Is Nets' Trump Card
by Net Income on Feb 17, 2011 6:58 PM EST
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PrintMarc Stein reports that "although details of a formally scheduled meeting have yet to emerge", the Nuggets believe Carmelo Anthony and Mikhail Prokhorov will finally meet face-to-face during All-Star Weekend. Stein quotes "sources close to the process."
Adrian Wojnarowski tweets that the Nets and Nuggets have the framework of a deal in place, but that Anthony would need to be convinced to sign an extension with New Jersey. In the proposed deal, the Nets would send Derrick Favors, Devin Harris, Troy Murphy, Ben Uzoh and four first round picks to Denver for Anthony, Chauncey Billups, Renaldo Balkman, Melvin Ely and Shelden Williams. The four picks being offered are the Nets' 2011 pick; the Lakers' 2011 pick; the Warriors' 2012 pick; and the Rockets' 2012 pick.
With the deal in place, Melo would face a big dilemma, either sign a $65 million extension (beginning in 2012-13) with the Nets or wait until July and hope for the best. But two writers suggest doing that would be a big risk.
Arne Stapleton of AP and Larry Coons of ESPN report 'Melo could be risking tens of millions of dollars of future earning power if he decides to pass on the extension. Stapleton estimates that he could risk as much as $40 million...half of what he would receive over the next four years if he signs the extension.
For his part, Anthony has vowed he will sign an extension this season (he has until June 30) and that unless he does, he could be "screwed" by the new collective bargaining agreement. He's also said it's not about the money.
- Nets negotiating framework of 'Melo deal - Adrian Wojnarowski - Yahoo! Sports
- Sources: Nets owner, Melo to meet - Marc Stein & Chris Broussard - ESPN
- Nets rushing to meet with 'Melo - Fred Kerber - New York Post
- Nets owner Mikhail Prokhorov has not changed his mind on Carmelo Anthony - Tom Canavan - AP
- All-Star Carmelo Anthony's days in Denver could be done - or maybe not - Arne Stapleton - AP
- Latest Carmelo Anthony trade buzz - Marc Stein - ESPN
- Knicks Walsh under pressure to make ‘Melo deal, but Nets have upper hand - Kurt Helin - NBC Sports
- Free agency could cost Carmelo $40M - Arne Stapleton - AP
- For Carmelo Anthony, six reasons that free agency is too risky - Larry Coon - ESPN
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This deserves its own thread
http://espn.go.com/blog/TrueHoop/post/_/id/24935/latest-carmelo-anthony-trade-buzz
Prokhorov and Melo to meet over AS weekend along with other bits and pieces of news.
Carmelo Anthony will finally meet face-to-face with Nets owner Mikhail Prokhorov over All-Star weekend, sources tell ESPN.com.
The Nuggets are encouraging Anthony to meet with Prokhorov because they covet Derrick Favors more than any other player mentioned. But the Nets will only trade for Anthony if he is willing to sign an extension, so this meeting is significant. Prokhorov has a steep task ahead of him — convincing Anthony that playing in Newark/Brooklyn with Brook Lopez is better than playing in Madison Square Garden with Amare Stoudemire. For now, Melo’s most likely destination is New Jersey or New York. ESPN notes that the Mavs and Rockets appear to be pulling out.
It's going to come down to Prokhorov
and you know what, I’ll bet on him any day of the week.
by NetsKiNG on Feb 17, 2011 6:51 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
just about to say that but then again that was a
guy who kept losing in the playoffs and saw miami as getting over the hump.
Melo might just want money.
Personally it shouldn’t take a meeting.
"Do you remember when Martin had a dream and Bobby had a regiment"
by killa kadafi191 on Feb 17, 2011 6:53 PM EST up reply actions
It shouldn't I agree
But I don’t think this meeting will be characterized as anything but an opportunity to chat, and not discuss any trade.
Similar to what Melo did with Cuban a week or so ago.
The Nets have to be able to come out of that meeting and say “we didn’t talk about the trade” in case Melo flat out rejects the Nets.
Section 18, Row 7 at The Rock!
yea, lebron was so impressed that he suggested the nets should be contracted
a few months later
kyrie irving is better than john wall
by William_H_HOLLA on Feb 17, 2011 7:11 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
maybe we shouldn't take what professional athletes say so seriously.
his past decision making has revealed him as immature and far too easily influenced by others. i don’t value his opinions on NBA franchises… he was practically running the cavaliers by the time he left.
our presentation impressed him (as i am sure it was created to do) and our on-court performance did not impress him. nothing ground-breaking there.
"It's like a finger pointing at the moon. Do not focus on the finger, or you will miss all the heavenly glory beyond." - Bruce Lee
Unfortunately
franchises do need to take what profession athletes say seriously because they’re who teams are trying to employ. We, as fans, don’t.
we've stood up to denver's Front Office...
now its time to stand up to Melo. either you want to play here or you don’t.
"It's like a finger pointing at the moon. Do not focus on the finger, or you will miss all the heavenly glory beyond." - Bruce Lee
If we end up with Melo
It will be one of the biggest trade coups in NBA history and totally help to revamp this franchise’s image behind its superstar player and Steinbrenner-eque owner
Let me rephrase
“Most dramatic coups” given the public walking away, opening the door for his preferred destination, then to ultimately get him in the end.
Plus, we couldn’t tell how impactful the assets we gave up for him until a few years out. If Favors matures and this year’s pick turns out to be a monster (unless it’s protected)
by Anthony Perez on Feb 17, 2011 7:01 PM EST up reply actions
I think Denver is the one who's ending up with the coup
if the Nets are serious about giving up FOUR first round picks in addition to Favors and Harris.
really guys? all it says is that denver is under teh assumption
that they will meet face to face at all star weekend. there as been no formal meeting set. lets not get it twisted teh knicks are still the front runners hear. you think melo came this far to give up on going to where he wants to go expecially when the knicks are in the process of trying to trade for him?
Melo ain't dumb when it comes to money
he wants his money and he wants it now, just noit in the mile high city.
We should just say.
Damion James, Ross, Murphy, Ours and GS #1s.
Then say take it or leave it.
212sports.com
i'm all for taking derrick favors out of the discussion.
we still have the best pieces to choose from over other potential suitors
"It's like a finger pointing at the moon. Do not focus on the finger, or you will miss all the heavenly glory beyond." - Bruce Lee
He's gone with Melo, no question
But I’m just hoping we keep our 2011 pick somehow.
Section 18, Row 7 at The Rock!
if you ask me
denver doesn’t need a PF and we do. favors is more valuable to us than he is to denver
"It's like a finger pointing at the moon. Do not focus on the finger, or you will miss all the heavenly glory beyond." - Bruce Lee
If you are in rebuilding mode
Consider all of their PF’s on their way out.
Section 18, Row 7 at The Rock!
Nene is done with Denver
He has an opt-out and said he doesn’t want to play in Denver if Melo leaves. Even if he did, he only has 1 more year on his contract and Denverr will be rebuilding and will want his cap space.
And K-mar is an expiring contract. They’ll need a PF, especially a cheap one with big potential
Larry Coon's article
states why he could lose money either way. the new CBA can affect the terms of his extension which would take place after the 2011-2012 season for 3 years. if he signs the extension, he gets his $18 million for next year. the real gamble is losing out on the $18 mil which could get reduced by the new CBA before he signs somewhere as a free agent.
as far as salary roll-backs are concerned, i just don’t think its possible. a player signs a contract and we hold them to very high standards of performance and consistency. the same should be expected of the owners and GM’s who draft and sign these contracts as well.
"It's like a finger pointing at the moon. Do not focus on the finger, or you will miss all the heavenly glory beyond." - Bruce Lee
Yeah, it's a gamble for him
But in the end, he will be guaranteed to make the max money he can by signing this extension now. If it ends up getting reduced, then it would’ve been reduced no matter what.
Section 18, Row 7 at The Rock!
true, but considering its a lose-lose
with relative losses based on his decision now, he might say, “if i’m losing either way, i should at least be playing in my desired destination”
i don’t know the numbers, but say the max salary is set at $15 mil per year:
he automatically loses $3 million for 2011-2012. then his three year $65 million turns into $45 million.
i can see a severe reduction in max salaries occurring before i could see them rolling back previously signed contracts
"It's like a finger pointing at the moon. Do not focus on the finger, or you will miss all the heavenly glory beyond." - Bruce Lee
He doesn't lose either way if he chooses the Nets
And the CBA doesn’t reduce current salaries.
Section 18, Row 7 at The Rock!
He will be an "GLOBAL ICON"
And he IMO is more gullible than Lebron James in this current situation.
i'm not yet convinced that he wants to play here...
or for this organization. i have faith that prokhorov will tell him what he needs to hear, but his “loss” would still be playing for “Plan B, C, D or E” depending on who you ask about his preferences.
"It's like a finger pointing at the moon. Do not focus on the finger, or you will miss all the heavenly glory beyond." - Bruce Lee
The CBA might reduce current salaries
The players took a 20% reduction on current contracts after their lockout. Or it can be like in football with a franchise clause, so you never know
its more like raising taxes for those who make more than $250,000 a year
because few NBA players ever actually get paid max salary, so in reducing max salaries, they’d only be affecting a smaller percentage. teams will be less-likely to pay guys exorbitant salaries (*cough travis outlaw cough cough) if the salary cap is hit hard or if a hard cap is put into place.
"It's like a finger pointing at the moon. Do not focus on the finger, or you will miss all the heavenly glory beyond." - Bruce Lee
i "would of" asked the same thing
i you would of not asked already
The realist keepin it real amongst the surrealists
by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Feb 17, 2011 8:24 PM EST up reply actions
Would Prokhorov risk going O-2…. with lebron we said he never wanted to be here … with Melo if he ends up with the knicks we will say he always wanted to be with A mare . What happened to the SanAntonio model?
by kupalski on Feb 17, 2011 7:08 PM EST via mobile reply actions
The San Antonio model
Is essentially to get great draft picks late in the draft through incredible scouting.
That, and also get lucky and draft the best PF to ever play the game.
Section 18, Row 7 at The Rock!
I'm pretty sure
The Spurs didn’t draft Maciej Lampe
Partially functional, half of me is comfortable, the other half is close to the Cliff, like Mrs. Huxtable
by King Henry the 2nd on Feb 17, 2011 7:13 PM EST up reply actions
The SA model is to draft Tim Duncan
Even if we get hte 1st pick, there’s no TD in this or next draft
huge risk
Which is why I think a meeting should go down because melo will still say no to the nets if he feels he can be a knick. I mean honestly what has changed since Jan. till now??
As someone said the last thing that needs to happen is another deal is agreed in prinicple and it falls apart again.
"Do you remember when Martin had a dream and Bobby had a regiment"
by killa kadafi191 on Feb 17, 2011 7:24 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
When Howard is up next year and CP… does Prokorov have to " razzale and dazzle" them as well. if prokorov goes 0-2 now… people wouldn’t be so awed by him.
by kupalski on Feb 17, 2011 7:31 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
The Knicks have changed
They’ve offered Denver next to nothing, meaning that they don’t want to deal for Melo, thus they made it clear that they don’t care about giving him the money that he wants.
That will have an effect on anyone
totally unrelated to article but as if this team hasnt been deride enough
http://www.basketball-reference.com/blog/?p=8847
this basically explains how selfish a player is when they touch the ball breaking down how many touches they get and the percentage of touches that result in a pass(not an assist just ball movement) from factors such as how many times they shoot, get fouled, or turn it over
Centers ….Pos….G…Min…. MPG T/Min Pass %Shoot %Fouled %TO
Brook Lopez ..C……57…1959 34.4 0.94…. 26.7 …..48.8% 17.0% …7.6%
as you can see not getting fouled enough(not in the paint enough) and too many turnovers even for a center(based on him not getting fouled or passing and not forcing a shot). he ranks third behind dwight(gets fouls a lot) and okafor(gets fouls a lot but has nearly half the touches brook does)
Small Forwards Pos….G…Min…MPG…T/Min Pass %Shoot %Fouled %TO
Travis Outlaw …SF….57…1733 30.4…0.61……33.5….51.1%….10.2%…5.3%
if corey maggette average 30 mpg he would barley be worse than outlaw but corey at least draws fouls(one of the best at getting to the free throw line). now the number that screams to me is the 51.1 shooting tendency in a very low .61 touches per minutes. this guy needs to gtfo period.
Shooting Guards Pos G…Min…MPG T/Min Pass %Shoot %Fouled %TO
Anthony Morrow …SG 40 1274..31.9..0.62…36.0…..52.0%…..7.1%….4.9%
second behind the most selfish player in the league nick young. morrow is an aberration like other players like nic batum. spot-up shooters are not supposed to pass up shots when they get the ball. but as you see he doesnt drive much and when he does its not pretty most of the time. get that dribble-drive/floater/runner game up morrow. you will become a much better player.
there has to be someone on the nets staff that studies advanced sabremetrics like this. and this shows that in avery’s offense players are looking for their own too much instead of moving the ball. also if there was a breakdown that showed what point in the shot clock these shots were taken most of these would be in the last 5 seconds. avery’s offense is too slow and stagnant and forcing too many “hero” shots. clutch is the last thing this team is and the tempo needs to be picked up. stop the 15 second iso and actually move the ball to create open looks. avery really is bad at offense. explains why he tries to play so slow. less wasted offensive possesions the nets have the more he can bark at getting stops before the defense ultimately fails
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by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Feb 17, 2011 7:20 PM EST reply actions
its complicated to explain but it delves into stats beyond the obvious major stats to determine a player or team true effectiveness when playing
the origin for baseball:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sabermetrics
for basketball:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/APBRmetrics
The realist keepin it real amongst the surrealists
by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Feb 17, 2011 8:05 PM EST up reply actions
Read Moneyball by Billy Beane.
he basically set the standard for Sabermetric evaluation in baseball.
"I don’t think we want to be like the Knicks. I think we’d more like to resemble the Lakers." - Mikhail Prokhorov
Want to know when you can see draft lottery prospects on TV? Go to this post: http://www.netsdaily.com/2011/1/21/1948224/top-2011-draft-lottery-prospects-in-nationally-televised-ncaa-games
Get basketball prospectus
"You can spend minutes, hours, days weeks or even months overanalyzing a situation; trying to put the pieces together, justifying what would’ve, could’ve happened – or you can just leave the pieces on the floor and move the **** on."
-Tupac Amaru Shakur
by NetsMets4Life on Feb 17, 2011 8:41 PM EST up reply actions
I dont think Nuggets want anything to do with the Knicks, I read teams are sick of super teams. Nets and Nuggets got close twice already. Knicks and Nuggets have never gotten close. Please dont insult me just think about it.
The Nuggets started talking with Nuggets then the Nets magically came back into play. I think they are using this to get Nets back in discussions.
The Nuggets started talking with Nuggets
then things really got bad
You betcha
If the Nets get Melo, CP3 will be a foregone conclusion in the minds of most NBA experts. He’d join the team in the first season in Brooklyn. That’s if he becomes a free agent.
Howard is a possibility, but we have Lopez. Although if Orlando was forced to trade Howard, Lopez might be a pretty good trade pickup. But I think he’s going to LA.
Section 18, Row 7 at The Rock!
does la even have the cap space?
personally i go pg bc we have lopez
yep LA for d howard
"Do you remember when Martin had a dream and Bobby had a regiment"
by killa kadafi191 on Feb 17, 2011 7:25 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
we'll have to wait and see what the new CBA leaves
because a hard cap and/or reduction in the salary cap could prevent a big 3 from being assembled
"It's like a finger pointing at the moon. Do not focus on the finger, or you will miss all the heavenly glory beyond." - Bruce Lee
NI
if we were to get a deal done which picks have you heard that we will give up?
i have heard nothing lately
but in the past, the Nets 2011 pick and the Warriors 2012 pick were mentioned.
Get it done.
I’ll drive Favors to the airport.
Favors, Murphy, our 2011 #1, Rockets 2012 #1
We still have the Lakers 2011 first round pick, we draft Jordan Williams from Maryland to play PF along with Hump. Or, we draft a SG and attempt to sign Carl Landry or Glen Davis (David West will cost too much) to play PF.
Mannnnn Imagine!!
If after the break our team looks like this:
Miller
Fernandez
Melo
Hump
Lopez
Pryzbylla
Cunningham
James
Sasha
Farmar
I’d be ok with that!!!
You wanna talk about swagger??!!!
If this happens Proky can put the billboard back up. Maybe two!
I feel this may drive Dolan to override Walsh though and make the deal. Denver is asking for a crazy deal but Dolan doesnt want the Nets to win out.
He’ll lose all his swagger if he goes 0-2 !
by kupalski on Feb 17, 2011 7:35 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
No word yet on James being sent to
The d league?
by sour grapes on Feb 17, 2011 7:28 PM EST via mobile reply actions
This is the most excited i've been for All-Star weekend since 2005
when Vince threw himself a sick dunk off the backboard.
I just cant wait to hear all the rumors that start swirling from tomorrow night...
Anyone know if Al is going to LA? His twitter should be blowing up.
I find it absolutely hysterical that Prokhorov will likely meet with Anthony after
“We are no longer pursuing Carmela. The decision is final.” I honestly laughed.
"You can spend minutes, hours, days weeks or even months overanalyzing a situation; trying to put the pieces together, justifying what would’ve, could’ve happened – or you can just leave the pieces on the floor and move the **** on."
-Tupac Amaru Shakur
He never said those words and when asked to confirm his affirmation he said “I think I’ve been clear,” but never confirmed (or reiterated) his initial claim.
The Token Black-Jew
I could have sworn that he said something along the lines of the decision being final.
I thought he used the word “final” to describe something.
"You can spend minutes, hours, days weeks or even months overanalyzing a situation; trying to put the pieces together, justifying what would’ve, could’ve happened – or you can just leave the pieces on the floor and move the **** on."
-Tupac Amaru Shakur
by NetsMets4Life on Feb 17, 2011 8:03 PM EST up reply actions
Nope — when asked if he would change his mind, he said “I think I’ve made myself clear.” Then when asked (again) if he was sure his decision was final, he said “Yes, I’m sure” and chuckled.
The Token Black-Jew
So HE did not say those exact words
but he still suggested that the decision was final.
"You can spend minutes, hours, days weeks or even months overanalyzing a situation; trying to put the pieces together, justifying what would’ve, could’ve happened – or you can just leave the pieces on the floor and move the **** on."
-Tupac Amaru Shakur
by NetsMets4Life on Feb 17, 2011 8:10 PM EST up reply actions
Woj
Denver-NJ in advanced talks on Anthony, Billups, Balkman, Ely, Williams for Favors, Harris, Murphy, Uzoh and 4 1st rounders, source tells Y!
Partially functional, half of me is comfortable, the other half is close to the Cliff, like Mrs. Huxtable
by King Henry the 2nd on Feb 17, 2011 7:58 PM EST reply actions
lol
Partially functional, half of me is comfortable, the other half is close to the Cliff, like Mrs. Huxtable
by King Henry the 2nd on Feb 17, 2011 7:59 PM EST up reply actions
Holy hell please convince them to take at least one less first rounder
Or tell them we dont want Ely so take off two picks.
"You can spend minutes, hours, days weeks or even months overanalyzing a situation; trying to put the pieces together, justifying what would’ve, could’ve happened – or you can just leave the pieces on the floor and move the **** on."
-Tupac Amaru Shakur
by NetsMets4Life on Feb 17, 2011 8:00 PM EST up reply actions
Like seriously though
FOUR first rounders? I shat a brick.
"You can spend minutes, hours, days weeks or even months overanalyzing a situation; trying to put the pieces together, justifying what would’ve, could’ve happened – or you can just leave the pieces on the floor and move the **** on."
-Tupac Amaru Shakur
by NetsMets4Life on Feb 17, 2011 8:01 PM EST up reply actions
still portaying a rag doll i see
why are they so desperate? they act like if melo doesnt come the team will be retracted next season
The realist keepin it real amongst the surrealists
by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Feb 17, 2011 8:09 PM EST up reply actions
WOJ!!!!!
WojYahooNBA Adrian Wojnarowski
Denver-NJ in advanced talks on Anthony, Billups, Balkman, Ely, Williams for Favors, Harris, Murphy, Uzoh and 4 1st rounders, source tells Y!
Not at all.
Too many picks and so many bad contracts
Partially functional, half of me is comfortable, the other half is close to the Cliff, like Mrs. Huxtable
by King Henry the 2nd on Feb 17, 2011 8:02 PM EST up reply actions
Outlaw is on the move in this trade right?
please say yes.
GET IT DONE
It’s about stars now. Not draft picks.
by NetsKiNG on Feb 17, 2011 8:02 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
-2
how did denver get anthony? anthony is no world beater hall of famer. the nets can find another scorer in the draft within the next three years
The realist keepin it real amongst the surrealists
by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Feb 17, 2011 8:11 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
LOL so funny.....were getting most of those first rounders back though - check it out!
-Williams (2006 LOTTERY! 5th overall)
-Ely (2002 LOTTERY! 12th overall)
-Balkman – not lottery but 20th overall 2006
Uhhhh…..what happened?
RELAX!
Exactly guys relax if we get Paul and Melo to go with Brook into Brooklyn, why do we need draft picks?
if
schmif
i know, i’m clever.
point is, that’s an if that’s as heavy as the planet earth itself.
x
WojYahooNBA: Once again, Nets and Nuggets have a framework, but Carmelo Anthony needs to be sold. Prokhorov-’Melo meeting could finally happen in L.A.
"You can spend minutes, hours, days weeks or even months overanalyzing a situation; trying to put the pieces together, justifying what would’ve, could’ve happened – or you can just leave the pieces on the floor and move the **** on."
-Tupac Amaru Shakur
x
ChrisMannixSI: Nobody really believed the Nets would say no if Denver came back to the table. The question is, can they close the deal.
"You can spend minutes, hours, days weeks or even months overanalyzing a situation; trying to put the pieces together, justifying what would’ve, could’ve happened – or you can just leave the pieces on the floor and move the **** on."
-Tupac Amaru Shakur
I'll be bold and guess that yes, the Nets can close it.
But not for the ideal price, of course.
"You can spend minutes, hours, days weeks or even months overanalyzing a situation; trying to put the pieces together, justifying what would’ve, could’ve happened – or you can just leave the pieces on the floor and move the **** on."
-Tupac Amaru Shakur
by NetsMets4Life on Feb 17, 2011 8:06 PM EST up reply actions
So according to WOJ this will be the roster.
Lopez / Petro / Ely
Williams / Humphries / Balkman
Anthony / James / Graham
Morrow / Vujacic / Ross
Billups / Farmar / Carter (Maybe)
Not bad, but nothing special. We can also expect Melo to regress under Avery, which is something that has been severely overlooked possibly because Nets fans don’t to think about it.
The Token Black-Jew
by NBRITM on Feb 17, 2011 8:10 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
don't look too bad
I think Morrow would benefit the most from this trade with Billups and Melo coming. He won’t have to work as hard to get a shot off and would be able to get open jumpers most of the game. Him and Sasha’s games would improve alot
Your New Denver Neggets
"You can spend minutes, hours, days weeks or even months overanalyzing a situation; trying to put the pieces together, justifying what would’ve, could’ve happened – or you can just leave the pieces on the floor and move the **** on."
-Tupac Amaru Shakur
by NetsMets4Life on Feb 17, 2011 8:11 PM EST up reply actions
Hump will be starting no question
"We're not there yet, but we're going somewhere," Johnson said. "And we're going to Brooklyn. We're not going to contract. We're going to Brooklyn."
this
"You can spend minutes, hours, days weeks or even months overanalyzing a situation; trying to put the pieces together, justifying what would’ve, could’ve happened – or you can just leave the pieces on the floor and move the **** on."
-Tupac Amaru Shakur
by NetsMets4Life on Feb 17, 2011 8:37 PM EST up reply actions
How could you forget Outlaw after his contributions this year?!?!
and I would prefer to play Hump over Williams no question
Does anybody realize the warriors pick could turn into 2 2nd rd picks if the lottery protection keeps getting invoked. So we could get some decent bench players with those picks.
you mean in 2017?
who cares.. and rarely do 2nd rounders turn into something good
the chances are so small though.. id rather get the guaranteed bonafied star, you can get landry fields caliber players easily
Manu Ginobili, was a second round pick.
"The biggest thing we talked about is Going Forward. Like I said, the Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands at 4:15 on Sunday afternoon. We’ve got to get ready for them. So what we need to do is learn from what happened in the past and Go Forward, starting this morning with our meetings, our walk-throughs and our practice."
-Jason Garrett, November 10th, 2010.
monta ellis, trevor ariza, scola, landry, marc gasol, mo williams
high second round picks are basically the same as low first rounders. the nets need to take advantage until they become an at worst 30 win team
The realist keepin it real amongst the surrealists
by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Feb 18, 2011 12:14 AM EST up reply actions
warriors will make the playoffs by then
the nets in 2-3 years will be cahsing in on that pick when the warriors just miss the playoffs and lose the protection on the pick. all they have to do after this year is finish 7-14 or 10-14 in the lottery. that pick can easily become a top ten pick and if luck were to come across the nets that pick could become a top 5 pick to go with the nets expected lottery pick that year as well
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by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Feb 17, 2011 8:17 PM EST up reply actions
Damn 4 1st rounders
WojYahooNBA: Denver-NJ in advanced talks on Anthony, Billups, Balkman, Ely, Williams for Favors, Harris, Murphy, Uzoh and 4 1st rounders, source tells Y!
"We're not there yet, but we're going somewhere," Johnson said. "And we're going to Brooklyn. We're not going to contract. We're going to Brooklyn."
Are you serious?!
No. No. No.
At least we have Morrow right?
Morrow is not involved in this proposed deal, no.
"You can spend minutes, hours, days weeks or even months overanalyzing a situation; trying to put the pieces together, justifying what would’ve, could’ve happened – or you can just leave the pieces on the floor and move the **** on."
-Tupac Amaru Shakur
by NetsMets4Life on Feb 17, 2011 8:13 PM EST up reply actions
Though his name is mentioned in the Harris, Miller deal with Portland.
"You can spend minutes, hours, days weeks or even months overanalyzing a situation; trying to put the pieces together, justifying what would’ve, could’ve happened – or you can just leave the pieces on the floor and move the **** on."
-Tupac Amaru Shakur
by NetsMets4Life on Feb 17, 2011 8:14 PM EST up reply actions
How does this stuff leak like this though?
Not cool.
"You can spend minutes, hours, days weeks or even months overanalyzing a situation; trying to put the pieces together, justifying what would’ve, could’ve happened – or you can just leave the pieces on the floor and move the **** on."
-Tupac Amaru Shakur
According to WOJ
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=4pmpltq
It turns to only 8 Million in savings.
4 draft picks?
Save our souls!
NoMelo Era Record: 7-9
by Andy. on Feb 17, 2011 8:13 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Wow Deja Vu Part 2
Imagine! Close: for the third time! Sure.
but, I wonder if Devin is still going to Portland if we trade with Denver
..now that can be interesting..
Yeah they know they can trade him to Portland
like Miller, young wing and picks.
unfortunately for knicks fans
they mortgaged their picks on the hope lebron is coming.. we are mortgaging picks to get a bonafied stud
no walsh was an idiot
trading unprotected pick and guys in rookie deals for t-wack(he is t-mac once again)
The realist keepin it real amongst the surrealists
by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Feb 17, 2011 8:20 PM EST up reply actions
No we aren't.
We are actually finding all these crazy leaked reports and your guys’ reaction to be quite funny actually.
We understand the situation. Why should we gut our roster and not make the playoffs for a player who said he wants to play in NY and said he doesn’t want to be on team with that has to give up the farm to get him.
We also find it quite puzzling that when Prokhorov pulled out of the trade talks that Denver was asking for too much, yet as of this morning, this recent “deal” is supposed to be scaled down parameter like Broussard reported Wednesday night?
"The biggest thing we talked about is Going Forward. Like I said, the Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands at 4:15 on Sunday afternoon. We’ve got to get ready for them. So what we need to do is learn from what happened in the past and Go Forward, starting this morning with our meetings, our walk-throughs and our practice."
-Jason Garrett, November 10th, 2010.
Melo WILL lead to other stars signing in Brooklyn
and nobody will give 2 _ about the draft picks we sent away.
by NetsKiNG on Feb 17, 2011 8:16 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
If it was 3 Picks it'll be good
flip it in the offseason to 2 first ,2 snds, Morrow, and Billups.
i just hope we dont geive away this years it will likely be a top 7 pick and that can really help us
Tell me the 4 first rounders
LAL, GS, HOU and our 2012 I’m great with.
Section 18, Row 7 at The Rock!
by eLonepb on Feb 17, 2011 8:18 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Yeah I guess. Those are all trash except for the GS pick.
"I don’t think we want to be like the Knicks. I think we’d more like to resemble the Lakers." - Mikhail Prokhorov
Want to know when you can see draft lottery prospects on TV? Go to this post: http://www.netsdaily.com/2011/1/21/1948224/top-2011-draft-lottery-prospects-in-nationally-televised-ncaa-games
i thought talks were supposed to be behind closed doors now
how and why are people letting info flood worse than water through a broken new orleans levy in hurricane season?
The realist keepin it real amongst the surrealists
by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Feb 17, 2011 8:22 PM EST up reply actions
Knicks can never compete with what Nets can propose.
Nets can take back some contracts and offer picks-which rebuilding teams really want.
Everything is in Melos hands.
NoMelo Era Record: 7-9
by Andy. on Feb 17, 2011 8:22 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Knicks talent offer better but Nets draft picks trump
Section 18, Row 7 at The Rock!
by eLonepb on Feb 17, 2011 8:23 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
No way!
Knicks don’t have any talent. Look at Marion, Bell, Diaw, House, and other when they left Dantoni’s system: all mediocre. Those players aren’t worth anything on any other team, that’s why they went to the Knicks, no one else wanted them
yeah i don't get when the media says
NY won’t mortgage their future for Melo but don’t mention that they already traded everything for a chance to get Lebron and didn’t get him. Now Nets are sending picks to actually land a Star and their getting ripped
We have cap room for the FA run of 2012. The only major long term contract we have is Amar'e
The rest of our players have been signed to short term deals. Eddie is an expiring contract this year. So we didn’t trade everything away, we financial flexibility.
"The biggest thing we talked about is Going Forward. Like I said, the Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands at 4:15 on Sunday afternoon. We’ve got to get ready for them. So what we need to do is learn from what happened in the past and Go Forward, starting this morning with our meetings, our walk-throughs and our practice."
-Jason Garrett, November 10th, 2010.
I like miller as a pass 1st pg better than billups
why dont we just trade harris and outlaw for miller and rudy and do the melo deal then
+ millers contract is expiring in 2012
“Mikhail has not changed his mind,” Pinchuk wrote.
When asked if that meant Prokhorov does not want the Nets to reopen talks with Denver at this point, the spokeswoman said:
“What I said is what I said,” she insisted. “Not what you said.”
They keep doing this, but they’re not defining the terms. Prokhorov did the same thing in his presser. Very shrewd, but pretty transparent.
The Token Black-Jew
whats wrong with being succint?
dont have to give some perplexing answer or read the whole book to the media.
The realist keepin it real amongst the surrealists
by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Feb 17, 2011 8:27 PM EST up reply actions
It’s not being succinct, it’s being vague and slightly unclear (purposely, of course).
The Token Black-Jew
mikhail has not changed his mind
means he doesnt enforce these bs trade rumors. how hard is that to understand? if not then good they are keeping the media out of it
The realist keepin it real amongst the surrealists
by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Feb 17, 2011 9:17 PM EST up reply actions
I take it that this means
Prokhorov did not want the NETS to re-start talks with Denver.
Apparently, they didn’t. Denver re-engaged us.
So true, Mannix.
ChrisMannixSI: If parameters of deal are accurate, there’s no way any other team will be able to match that offer. That’s a gift wrapped rebuilding package
"You can spend minutes, hours, days weeks or even months overanalyzing a situation; trying to put the pieces together, justifying what would’ve, could’ve happened – or you can just leave the pieces on the floor and move the **** on."
-Tupac Amaru Shakur
Nets would be giving up
more value than Carmelo Anthony himself. Denver would be the winners in this trade. Doesn’t make sense
exactly after what denver tried to pull. they should not win any trade
nets once again are setting the bar too high. i’d rather them drive the price up just enough for the knicks to relinquish to a bad deal in favor of denver or take the chance in free agency. why are they giving in all the time. front officeis so weak minded. grow a pair and lowball the nuggets. if you walk away with nothing no one will criticize you and denver will look the worst in the end unless melo decides to sign the extension
The realist keepin it real amongst the surrealists
by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Feb 17, 2011 8:32 PM EST up reply actions
no way
1st rounders in the late teens are not worth it the only one that is valuable is our 2011. For Melo that is fine
I am VERY against Lebron, completely ignoring the stats. He ruins teams, despite what his great stats say. I dont care what anyone says, he ruins teams. - anonymous nets fan
by lemmetakeutodamovies on Feb 17, 2011 8:46 PM EST up reply actions
the GSW 2012 is really valuable. That's a stacked draft and it will be a fairly high pick.
"I don’t think we want to be like the Knicks. I think we’d more like to resemble the Lakers." - Mikhail Prokhorov
Want to know when you can see draft lottery prospects on TV? Go to this post: http://www.netsdaily.com/2011/1/21/1948224/top-2011-draft-lottery-prospects-in-nationally-televised-ncaa-games
Melo Drama, Take 1902029292920283837364647884
I admired Proky, when he said “enough” and told his employees to walk away. I’d rather not give away too much to get Melo. Brook and Melo are not enough to make the playoffs. Who else would be on the team? I guess this is going to be a big weekend for all of us.
Paul from Sunny Delray Beach, Florida
FOUR PICKS? FOUR PICKS!?
What the heck? We just have to beat the Knicks offer of ONE!!
Timeless - The 2001-2003 NJ Nets
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nima3dmLrcw
Isn't this the deal Prokhorov said was too expensive?
Timeless - The 2001-2003 NJ Nets
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nima3dmLrcw
He wasn't necessarily talking about assets but everything
The team loosing while Denver kept waffling the media attention etc.
"We're not there yet, but we're going somewhere," Johnson said. "And we're going to Brooklyn. We're not going to contract. We're going to Brooklyn."
this is why
I am not buying the Nets being serious
You can say the same thing about the Knicks offer
That means nobody is serious
"We're not there yet, but we're going somewhere," Johnson said. "And we're going to Brooklyn. We're not going to contract. We're going to Brooklyn."
I will say this not letting go of Morrow makes me feel a little bit easier about giving away the draft picks
Also we still have Damion James to develop.
"We're not there yet, but we're going somewhere," Johnson said. "And we're going to Brooklyn. We're not going to contract. We're going to Brooklyn."
only reason i would want the trade to come through is
because of the all the people that ripped NJ and said no way Melo or any star would want to come here. Seems like everyone forgot about Kidd and the players that wanted to come when he was here, Carter most recently. And to see what Sheridan, Broussard, and Cowherd from Sportsnation would say after it went through
by CStanley028 on Feb 17, 2011 8:28 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
i could see the usual,
“According to my sources, Carmelo still hasn’t told anyone that he will sign the extension with NJ”
Thats probably exactly what he will say
and then about 20 hours within a deal being agreed upon, he will announce to the world that the deal is finished and act like he deserves credit.
"You can spend minutes, hours, days weeks or even months overanalyzing a situation; trying to put the pieces together, justifying what would’ve, could’ve happened – or you can just leave the pieces on the floor and move the **** on."
-Tupac Amaru Shakur
by NetsMets4Life on Feb 17, 2011 8:35 PM EST up reply actions
NO PROB BRO!
*Vujacic Timeline*
10/18/10 - Sasha's first game as a Net.
1/5/11 - Sasha nets game winner vs. Bulls.
2/9/11 - Clutch shots in overtime combine with career high 25 points in win over Hornets.
by JetsMetsNets on Feb 17, 2011 8:34 PM EST up reply actions
CDR Tweet: can’t do LA Kinfolk. Too many traps out there. & I’ll be here.
lol i dont think you were invited to LA Chris…He is still so immature and cocky on Twitter. He acts as if they want him there but he cant do it…hmm sure.
I dunno but I think he is maybe joking.
"You can spend minutes, hours, days weeks or even months overanalyzing a situation; trying to put the pieces together, justifying what would’ve, could’ve happened – or you can just leave the pieces on the floor and move the **** on."
-Tupac Amaru Shakur
by NetsMets4Life on Feb 17, 2011 8:33 PM EST up reply actions
You can't take everything on twitter literally
Nothing wrong with what he said he probably was invited knows Lebron and everybody.
"We're not there yet, but we're going somewhere," Johnson said. "And we're going to Brooklyn. We're not going to contract. We're going to Brooklyn."
but keeps his offensive skillset right?
so dwight would be a better thing to transform into
he was trying to get kwame brown every year
*Vujacic Timeline*
10/18/10 - Sasha's first game as a Net.
1/5/11 - Sasha nets game winner vs. Bulls.
2/9/11 - Clutch shots in overtime combine with career high 25 points in win over Hornets.
by JetsMetsNets on Feb 17, 2011 8:40 PM EST up reply actions
About
Lopez / Petro / Ely
Outlaw / Humphries / Williams
Anthony / James / Graham
Morrow / Vujacic / Ross
Billups / Farmar / Carter (Maybe)
Balkman buy out?
Outlaw should start at the 4, he showed some flashes of his old self during the 3rd quarter of the Spurs game, did anyone see that blown dunk?
travis outlaw cannot play consistent 4 man minutes
especially when our center isn’t a bruiser. orlando got away with that when they had rashard lewis because Dwight is their center. us? not so much. you need at least one guy on your frontline that wouldn’t collapse under the weight of a bench press.
Renaldo Balkman?
Do we really have to take this Isiah Thomas 20th draft choice loser? I think that taking him is way too much to ask. He is the 16th man, on a 12 man squad. He is a joke. I’d rather take Outlaw at 5 million per, than Balkman at 1.8 At least Outlaw is an NBA player.
Paul from Sunny Delray Beach, Florida
Not before he got a chance with the Nets
Partially functional, half of me is comfortable, the other half is close to the Cliff, like Mrs. Huxtable
by King Henry the 2nd on Feb 17, 2011 8:47 PM EST up reply actions
Certainly true
This year, he’s had a chance to put it all together & his performance has been excellent. Although, his rebound rates were always high-quality.
What's that about?
Its called playing for a contract and knowing your gonna get PT on a bad team
"I love my Ducks (wait 'til you see my O)"
I'm Johan Petro and I'm so offended.
*Vujacic Timeline*
10/18/10 - Sasha's first game as a Net.
1/5/11 - Sasha nets game winner vs. Bulls.
2/9/11 - Clutch shots in overtime combine with career high 25 points in win over Hornets.
no way this trade is BS imo
there is no way we’re giving up 4 1st round picks in this. no matter who the player is. i don’t even care if its Lebron Kobe or Durant. NO ONE and i mean NO ONE gives up 4 1st round picks for 1 superstar. that’s just plain retarded…
even if it is
that’s still way too many. if i heard 4 1st round picks. i would of hung up the phone on em…
Reminder
We have 10 draft picks to play with, 6 left.
by Anthony Perez on Feb 17, 2011 9:59 PM EST up reply actions
We would only have 1 first rounder though.
How much talent would all those 2nd rounders yield?
"I don’t think we want to be like the Knicks. I think we’d more like to resemble the Lakers." - Mikhail Prokhorov
Want to know when you can see draft lottery prospects on TV? Go to this post: http://www.netsdaily.com/2011/1/21/1948224/top-2011-draft-lottery-prospects-in-nationally-televised-ncaa-games
And how truly valuable are the protected 1st rounders we're giving up?
We’re getting a replacement for Harris (basically the same production) who will be gone and off the books in time for CP3/D-Will free agency.
The only guy left in 2012 aside from Melo will be Balkman, who is making pennies ($1.6 million). We’ll have the flexibility to sign CP-3 or D-Will and end up with a stud PG and stud SF to go along with hopefully a stronger and more complete Lopez.
Plus we’ll still have plenty of $$ for other free agents and have to find AT LEAST a couple of decent role players with all those second round picks.
by Anthony Perez on Feb 17, 2011 10:23 PM EST up reply actions
The GSW pick is really valuable as is the NJ # 1.
My point is merely that the Nets don’t have to give up those picks. We can beat any offer without giving up all of them.
We can have Melo, D-Will, Brook AND some good picks.
"I don’t think we want to be like the Knicks. I think we’d more like to resemble the Lakers." - Mikhail Prokhorov
Want to know when you can see draft lottery prospects on TV? Go to this post: http://www.netsdaily.com/2011/1/21/1948224/top-2011-draft-lottery-prospects-in-nationally-televised-ncaa-games
But the # of picks is inflated due to the value of the other picks
We’ll be sending one REALLY good pick their way and the other 3 are potentially solid picks, but not exactly the place you get All-Star players. We don’t know exactly which picks we’re sending or what protections are involved in the picks of our own that we’re sending…
by Anthony Perez on Feb 17, 2011 10:28 PM EST up reply actions
The GSW pick is not affected by who we draft.
Favors + GSW Talent + NJ 2011 Talent + other picks + Harris is to much for Melo IMO.
"I don’t think we want to be like the Knicks. I think we’d more like to resemble the Lakers." - Mikhail Prokhorov
Want to know when you can see draft lottery prospects on TV? Go to this post: http://www.netsdaily.com/2011/1/21/1948224/top-2011-draft-lottery-prospects-in-nationally-televised-ncaa-games
Harris is a wash
We’re replacing him with just as productive of a player, and we already showed we aren’t committed to Harris by floating him out to other teams as well.
Also, if we kept Harris and got Melo, we’d have to ship him out ANYWAY in order to have the $$ to make a play at CP3 or D-Will (and getting them wouldn’t be so hard if we can offer to match them with Melo & Lopez)
by Anthony Perez on Feb 17, 2011 10:32 PM EST up reply actions
my only conclusion is that they are trying to get the knicks to accept a bad deal
and gut their roster but this allegded proposal is too close from the old rejected proposal and too high for the knicks to compete. nets shouldnt be cleaning denver’s roster of bad contracts and supplying them two years worth of quality picks for one person. i think only mj in 93 or kareem in 80 would be worth this much and melo is nothin close to those two let alone the best players today(lebron, wade, dwight, kobe, durant, rose)
The realist keepin it real amongst the surrealists
by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Feb 17, 2011 8:44 PM EST up reply actions
Seriously
An odd statement. Except Kobe. I wouldn’t for Kobe. He’s kind of starting to break down especially since he joined the league so young.
by Anthony Perez on Feb 17, 2011 10:00 PM EST up reply actions
not 4 1st Rounders....
if it was a mix of 1st and 2nd round picks that’s a diff story. but to give them 4 is insane to me. i understand we keep morrow and some other favorable players instead i get that. but to give them that many 1st round picks for only 1 superstar to me isn’t worth it. and yes i wouldn’t do it for lebron kobe or durant either. i wanna still have assets to make moves in the future not just on 1 guy and then i got nothing left to deal with if something else comes up we don’t know about right now.
Lebron took the Cavs roster to 60 win seasons.
"I don’t think we want to be like the Knicks. I think we’d more like to resemble the Lakers." - Mikhail Prokhorov
Want to know when you can see draft lottery prospects on TV? Go to this post: http://www.netsdaily.com/2011/1/21/1948224/top-2011-draft-lottery-prospects-in-nationally-televised-ncaa-games
Screw the Knicks?
Maybe we are back in, just to drive up the price to the Knicks. If they have to give enough away, they will be worse, not better.
Paul from Sunny Delray Beach, Florida
its like the nuggets put a price of 100
the contenders folded. the knicks checked. and the nets called and raised to 1000 when no one else could/would raise to 500. smh
The realist keepin it real amongst the surrealists
by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Feb 17, 2011 8:47 PM EST up reply actions
i feel
Proky had to do that press conference for the teams sake or we wouldn’t have won another game. The trade talks were getting way out of hand and it was the only way to stop them until the All Star Break
Yeah they did it to have a chance at the playoffs.
8 games out.
36 wins can get you in, 19-6 damn that tough.
Horrible trade.
And on that note I’m peacin
Nets for the ship!
Melo will never sign with NJ
He wants to come to the Knicks who are one piece away from contending, not the generic bootleg NYC team who will be a lottery team for the next 5 years
Mozgov Smash!
by the_knicks_are_back on Feb 17, 2011 8:43 PM EST reply actions
Yes.
Because the Nets would be a lottery team with Carmelo Anthony, Brook Lopez, and Chauncey Billups among others.
"You can spend minutes, hours, days weeks or even months overanalyzing a situation; trying to put the pieces together, justifying what would’ve, could’ve happened – or you can just leave the pieces on the floor and move the **** on."
-Tupac Amaru Shakur
by NetsMets4Life on Feb 17, 2011 8:44 PM EST up reply actions
Lol one busted knee from being a basement dweller again...hilarious..Finally floating near .500 in a decade and suddenly all of you are cocky
by ItsAllNets on Feb 17, 2011 8:44 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
not a knick homer but to show thats a poor statement
technically lottery is the 14 that dont make the playoffs and standing right now:
atlanta(99-06)
charlotte(04-09)
cleveland(00-05)
golden state(94-06)
LAC
minnesota(04-present)
new york(04-present)
portland(03-08)
have all done it just this decade and there are several teams that are on 4 year playoff droughts right now
The realist keepin it real amongst the surrealists
by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Feb 17, 2011 9:13 PM EST up reply actions
haha
now here comes the knick fans…HE wont sign…Then if he does agree The knicks dont need him…id rather keep fields and gallo etc.
Hes quite a good role player
"You can spend minutes, hours, days weeks or even months overanalyzing a situation; trying to put the pieces together, justifying what would’ve, could’ve happened – or you can just leave the pieces on the floor and move the **** on."
-Tupac Amaru Shakur
by NetsMets4Life on Feb 17, 2011 8:46 PM EST up reply actions
"the knicks are back"
Yeah, I’d consider being 2 games above .500 a huge accomplishment if I were the Knicks too.
you gotta take into account
that the Knicks have been playing the past month with half their team in heavy trade rumors, just like the Nets had before. They would prob be more like 29-21 if that wasn’t the case
The knicks have dealt with these heavy rumors
for about 3 weeks. The Nets have dealt with these heavy rumors for the entire season.
They are 28-26.
They would play four less games if not for the trade rumors?
"I don’t think we want to be like the Knicks. I think we’d more like to resemble the Lakers." - Mikhail Prokhorov
Want to know when you can see draft lottery prospects on TV? Go to this post: http://www.netsdaily.com/2011/1/21/1948224/top-2011-draft-lottery-prospects-in-nationally-televised-ncaa-games
sorry i was thinking 26-24
so they would be more like 31-23
Judging from your username
I’d guess you jumped ship when Amare signed that ludicrous contract.
"You can spend minutes, hours, days weeks or even months overanalyzing a situation; trying to put the pieces together, justifying what would’ve, could’ve happened – or you can just leave the pieces on the floor and move the **** on."
-Tupac Amaru Shakur
by NetsMets4Life on Feb 17, 2011 8:47 PM EST up reply actions
Contending for what?
They’re not a championship team with Melo if they move Fields/Gallo to get him. The smart play by Walsh would be to wait & pay him in the offseason. I hope they end up overpaying for him to be honest.
What's that about?
So why isn't he a Knicks yet?
"We're not there yet, but we're going somewhere," Johnson said. "And we're going to Brooklyn. We're not going to contract. We're going to Brooklyn."
glad you stopped by let's roll out the red carpet for him
remember this earlier this season?
And those depressing years…
Tomofey Mozgoz about getting dunked on by Blake Griffin "I didn't like it"
by universal on Feb 17, 2011 10:26 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
lemme help you
The realist keepin it real amongst the surrealists
by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Feb 18, 2011 12:06 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
NYK fan
Okay Net fans, we’ll see what happens next week
Mozgov Smash!
by the_knicks_are_back on Feb 17, 2011 8:46 PM EST reply actions
I wish you luck
but you wont get much with D’Antoni running the system.
"You can spend minutes, hours, days weeks or even months overanalyzing a situation; trying to put the pieces together, justifying what would’ve, could’ve happened – or you can just leave the pieces on the floor and move the **** on."
-Tupac Amaru Shakur
by NetsMets4Life on Feb 17, 2011 8:49 PM EST up reply actions
All them players on the Knicks are juiced up cuz of that system NoDantoni is runnig
Steriods of Basketball= NODANTONI SYSTEM.
This is overpaying by a ton.
This sounds like the proposed Fields, Gallo, Felton, Mozgov and Chandler deal.
Denver is asking high and working its way down. It’s a classic bargaining strategy. They get the Nets to give up less than that, but more than they originally wanted to because they get emotionally invested in a deal.
"I don’t think we want to be like the Knicks. I think we’d more like to resemble the Lakers." - Mikhail Prokhorov
Want to know when you can see draft lottery prospects on TV? Go to this post: http://www.netsdaily.com/2011/1/21/1948224/top-2011-draft-lottery-prospects-in-nationally-televised-ncaa-games
1 word to describe that trade
ILLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL
So a good thing?
"You can spend minutes, hours, days weeks or even months overanalyzing a situation; trying to put the pieces together, justifying what would’ve, could’ve happened – or you can just leave the pieces on the floor and move the **** on."
-Tupac Amaru Shakur
by NetsMets4Life on Feb 17, 2011 8:48 PM EST up reply actions
Nope
Not for 4 1st round picks in addition to last year’s 3rd overall pick in Favors, be serious Denver.
by KozyWorld973 on Feb 17, 2011 8:57 PM EST up reply actions
If it was LAL #1, HOU #1, 2012 NJ #1 and 2014 NJ #1 I could deal with it.
"I don’t think we want to be like the Knicks. I think we’d more like to resemble the Lakers." - Mikhail Prokhorov
Want to know when you can see draft lottery prospects on TV? Go to this post: http://www.netsdaily.com/2011/1/21/1948224/top-2011-draft-lottery-prospects-in-nationally-televised-ncaa-games
by Maxyboy on Feb 17, 2011 8:51 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Random Question...
Daniel Goldstein used to write on here right ? i guess that he cant anymore because of the settlement ? do we know much details besides he got paid 3 million ?
All I know is that he had posted here in the past.
Not often but he did indeed post.
"You can spend minutes, hours, days weeks or even months overanalyzing a situation; trying to put the pieces together, justifying what would’ve, could’ve happened – or you can just leave the pieces on the floor and move the **** on."
-Tupac Amaru Shakur
by NetsMets4Life on Feb 17, 2011 8:59 PM EST up reply actions
New Proky statement says nothing has changed - AP story.
http://sports.espn.go.com/new-york/nba/news/story?id=6133683
Has this been posted yet?
“Mikhail has not changed his mind” according to his spokeswoman. When ask further, he would only stick with those words.
Obviously Proky doesn’t want to soften Nets negotiating ability. It must be a DIFFERENT deal IMO.
Proky is taking a hard line again and denying trade rumors.
I need to use this button every time a new detail emerges
http://inception.davepedu.com/
(make sure the speakers/headphones arent on too loud)
"You can spend minutes, hours, days weeks or even months overanalyzing a situation; trying to put the pieces together, justifying what would’ve, could’ve happened – or you can just leave the pieces on the floor and move the **** on."
-Tupac Amaru Shakur
Stop
Woj has excellent sources inside the Nets and he wouldn’t report that trade talks are in ADVANCED stages and no offer has even been made.
This is what you HOPE is the case.
Yes, buy
According to Prokhorov, he’s never changed his mind. I really don’t know who i have to believe
by Fabio Villani on Feb 17, 2011 9:09 PM EST up reply actions
In the trade before we were giving up 3 picks
Adding a extra pick and keeping Morrow and D-james is not bad but it depends on the #4 picks, but if we get Melo we won’t be in the lottery in the near future.
"We're not there yet, but we're going somewhere," Johnson said. "And we're going to Brooklyn. We're not going to contract. We're going to Brooklyn."
Depends on what the three picks are
If this year’s pick + GS’s pick are involved, then the Nets are offering way too much.
That is a horrendous deal.
I can’t wait to see all of Denver’s Slag on our Bench with Carrmela in front of them on the floor on his stomach while Tim Walsh is practically humpin Carmela trying to get his balky back to loosen up enough to play 30 minutes a game and our 5 Draft Picks(including Favors) are running around having a ball in the league.
None of the picks are going to be that awesome when it’s all said and done (I doubt any of them will be top 5), the only player we have to keep is Balkman at 2 more years and 4 million dollars..
I personally think this is a great trade.. you have to think about the benefits of having Carmelo and making Brook a 2nd option.
"advanced talks" as per Woj
WojYahooNBA: Y! Source: Denver, New Jersey in advanced talks on framework of a Carmelo Anthony deal; star still unsold. http://tinyurl.com/4kut4dk
"You can spend minutes, hours, days weeks or even months overanalyzing a situation; trying to put the pieces together, justifying what would’ve, could’ve happened – or you can just leave the pieces on the floor and move the **** on."
-Tupac Amaru Shakur
"unsold" could mean two things
1) Melo isnt sold if hes interested in us at all
2) We simply havent talked to him yet, and we need to convince.
"You can spend minutes, hours, days weeks or even months overanalyzing a situation; trying to put the pieces together, justifying what would’ve, could’ve happened – or you can just leave the pieces on the floor and move the **** on."
-Tupac Amaru Shakur
by NetsMets4Life on Feb 17, 2011 9:24 PM EST up reply actions
*melo is sure
"You can spend minutes, hours, days weeks or even months overanalyzing a situation; trying to put the pieces together, justifying what would’ve, could’ve happened – or you can just leave the pieces on the floor and move the **** on."
-Tupac Amaru Shakur
by NetsMets4Life on Feb 17, 2011 9:24 PM EST up reply actions
It's better if Melo maintains his "unsold" stance until a final deal is in writing and agreed to by both teams.
We want Nuggets to be concerned that if Nets are “blown up” too much, that Melo wouldn’t sign.
I'm pretty sure that
if Prokhy will meet Melo, then he will be a Net
by Fabio Villani on Feb 17, 2011 9:25 PM EST up reply actions
?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dTAAsCNK7RA
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OK Go ftw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3BxfpbyV-uc&feature=relmfu
"You can spend minutes, hours, days weeks or even months overanalyzing a situation; trying to put the pieces together, justifying what would’ve, could’ve happened – or you can just leave the pieces on the floor and move the **** on."
-Tupac Amaru Shakur
by NetsMets4Life on Feb 17, 2011 9:25 PM EST up reply actions
"I don’t think we want to be like the Knicks. I think we’d more like to resemble the Lakers." - Mikhail Prokhorov
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by Maxyboy on Feb 17, 2011 9:23 PM EST reply actions 3 recs
This trade makes us older, smarter, tougher, more defensive on the wing and inside, and more importantly, it makes us much more clutch in crunch time. Billups is an upgrade. Balkman, Ely, and Williams are hustlers and tough, smart players and Melo is a stud.
Billups
Morrow
Melo
Hump
Lopez
that’s a decent team with two tested studs in Billups and Melo, a sniper in Morrow, a workhouse in Hump, and maybe, just maybe, an inside threat in Lopez. We are only giving up Harris really….
Harris, Four First rounders and Favors.
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That could end up being.
Favors
Michael Gilchrist
Harrison Barnes/Terrence Jones
AND Harris
Would you do that?
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If this goes through Denver is going to have a sick team by the way.
Probably a higher seed than the Nets eventually.
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Lopez is also a stud
if he plays with a great passing PG and is the second or third option
OFFICIAL MEMBER OF THE "_your movement here__" MOVEMENT
Alright. I just want something to get done so I can finally buy a Nets jersey.
I haven’t bought one because i don’t want to get a jersey of a player that will be shipped out.
"I don’t think we want to be like the Knicks. I think we’d more like to resemble the Lakers." - Mikhail Prokhorov
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Thank god we're not trading away 5 first rounders anymore!!!!
That woulda been terrible….
Really with this deal? Denver jerks us around for MONTHS with their crap deal, we make a big “we’re taking our ball and going home” news conference, then Denver comes back and the deal is basically the same as before???? We’re a joke of a francise.
by JohnFromLongIsland on Feb 17, 2011 9:27 PM EST reply actions 4 recs
We do keep Morrow and James
Not sure if there are protections and WOJ article says future ones outside of Golden states and our own this year, we have to see what picks we are giving away.
"We're not there yet, but we're going somewhere," Johnson said. "And we're going to Brooklyn. We're not going to contract. We're going to Brooklyn."
WTF OMG AGAIN?? WE BACK AT GIVING UP EVERYTHING!? AGAIN???
Derrick Favors, Devin Harris, Troy Murphy, Ben Uzoh and four first round picks to Denver
No no no....
It’s only 4 first rounders, not the 5 that Denver first asked for…
WE’RE GETTING A GREAT DEAL!!!
by JohnFromLongIsland on Feb 17, 2011 9:30 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
and Im back in business people!
Sheldon Williams #1 Red Jerseys now for sale.
NoMelo Era Record: 7-9
by Andy. on Feb 17, 2011 9:32 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
You should hold onto them until after free agency 2012.
See what I did there?
"I don’t think we want to be like the Knicks. I think we’d more like to resemble the Lakers." - Mikhail Prokhorov
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Yeah. I'm sure the Nets would give Shelden priority over D-Will.
It would be pretty funny if he wore #1.
"I don’t think we want to be like the Knicks. I think we’d more like to resemble the Lakers." - Mikhail Prokhorov
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Four first rounders: CDR, TWill, Yi, and Jordan Hill. O yeah, CDR was a second rounder and the best of those 4.
lolwut....
four first rounders: Michael Jordan, Magic Johnson, Kobe Bryant, Monta Ellis. O yeah, Monta was a second rounder.
cwutididthar?
by JohnFromLongIsland on Feb 17, 2011 9:31 PM EST up reply actions 5 recs
Rec'd
"I don’t think we want to be like the Knicks. I think we’d more like to resemble the Lakers." - Mikhail Prokhorov
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Woah. A lot of people just logeed in at the same time, lol.
"You can spend minutes, hours, days weeks or even months overanalyzing a situation; trying to put the pieces together, justifying what would’ve, could’ve happened – or you can just leave the pieces on the floor and move the **** on."
-Tupac Amaru Shakur
OH MY !!!!
4 first round picks?!?!?!?!? I think 4 of any picks is too much let alone first rounders!!!! Please at least manage to keep one pick. I don’t know why Melo would wanna come here if we do this deal. We wouldn’t get a first round pick until Melo is an FA again…
And Kim Kardashian!
"I don’t think we want to be like the Knicks. I think we’d more like to resemble the Lakers." - Mikhail Prokhorov
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And t shirts
"You can spend minutes, hours, days weeks or even months overanalyzing a situation; trying to put the pieces together, justifying what would’ve, could’ve happened – or you can just leave the pieces on the floor and move the **** on."
-Tupac Amaru Shakur
by NetsMets4Life on Feb 17, 2011 9:33 PM EST up reply actions
And Wall2KingJames
"I don’t think we want to be like the Knicks. I think we’d more like to resemble the Lakers." - Mikhail Prokhorov
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And Dignity
oh wait…
Partially functional, half of me is comfortable, the other half is close to the Cliff, like Mrs. Huxtable
by King Henry the 2nd on Feb 17, 2011 9:36 PM EST up reply actions
He's included in the deal lol
"We're not there yet, but we're going somewhere," Johnson said. "And we're going to Brooklyn. We're not going to contract. We're going to Brooklyn."
This is my favorite
I actually do love mini sly
by Anthony Perez on Feb 17, 2011 10:10 PM EST up reply actions
I dont believe anything though. People shouldnt take these details seriouisly.
King said during the press conference last month that most of what’s leaked is false information.
FANS, DONT FALL IN THE TRAP AGAIN. Just wait until something is officially announced.
NoMelo Era Record: 7-9
I hate Nets management if this atrocious deal goes througH!
Favors and 4!!! FIRST rounders… God why you hate us so much?!!
OK people, relax. I figured that out
We trade Favors, Harris, 4 first rounders for Anthony and then go hard after CP3.
NO won’t be able to resist package of: Outlaw, Graham and Ross with 3 second rounders!
Welcome to the Nets
The first rule of the Nets is: you do not touch Stephen Graham.
The second rule of the Nets is: you DO NOT touch Stephen Graham! Third rule of Fight Club
If someone yells “stop!”, goes limp, or taps out, it’s probably because Stephen Graham just dunked on them.
Fourth rule: only two Nets to serve Graham at a time.
Fifth rule: one Graham at a time, fellas. (Sorry Joey)
Sixth rule: the people who protect Graham are bare knuckle. No shirt, no shoes, no weapons. We can’t have him getting hurt
Seventh rule: Graham will play as long as he wants to.
And the eighth and final rule: if this is your first time with the Nets, just don’t even bother. you can’t beat Graham.
"I don’t think we want to be like the Knicks. I think we’d more like to resemble the Lakers." - Mikhail Prokhorov
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by Maxyboy on Feb 17, 2011 9:46 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Harris, One First Rounder, Favors and Murphy or (2 1sts and No Favors.)
Anymore than that roughly should cone with vats of lubricant.
Why would Nets offer Favors and 4 first rounders
When Favors and 1 first rounder is a better offer than anything the Knicks can offer?
Airfeet, it's called smokescreen.
"The biggest thing we talked about is Going Forward. Like I said, the Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands at 4:15 on Sunday afternoon. We’ve got to get ready for them. So what we need to do is learn from what happened in the past and Go Forward, starting this morning with our meetings, our walk-throughs and our practice."
-Jason Garrett, November 10th, 2010.
To put the trade in perspective
1- We received 3 first round picks for a player that averaged 15.1 ppg, 7.6 rpg and showed no signs of superstardom. Even if he’s not a top 5 player, four first rounders isn’t that bad if that’s the route the team wants to go.
2- If the trade is made, the team is focused on improving through free agency…not the draft. It’s more of a chance on Paul/Williams/Howard/etc. rather than Sullinger/Irving/etc.
3- With Favors gone, our most efficient player this season would finally get the minutes he deserves. With that said, it’ll probably come with a heavier contract this offseason.
4- Morrow/Sasha will reap the benefits on the perimeter.
5- The depth at SF would push Outlaw to the PF spot, where he has been more effective his entire career. He could come in when the matchup is right and spread the court out for Brook inside. If he can’t guard the opposing player, Williams would be able to come in for Hump.
6- Avery finally gets someone capable of a midrange game that his offense looks dependent upon from Dallas.
by bus_driver20 on Feb 17, 2011 9:41 PM EST reply actions 2 recs
Wake up call: The Nets have two things the Nuggets want: first rounders and Favors. The Knicks have something Melo wants. They only way we beat out the Knicks is by blowing them out of the water. They signed Amare and everyone said bad move, overpay. Hey, but they are in the playoffs and we are sunk in bad lands. What good are picks and space and potential if you suck? Lopez and others will improve with Billups running the show and with Melo taking pressure off. It is a no brainer.
but the Nets have always had a better offer than the Knicks...
so why isn’t Melo a Net by now?
I don't understand this logic.
They only way we beat out the Knicks is by blowing them out of the water.
Wouldn’t that make the Nets less attractive to Carmelo?
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No because were not getting rid of Lopez or anthony Morrow actual players on the court
We will have money when Billups leaves for Chris Paul etc, draft picks are good but still questionable.
"We're not there yet, but we're going somewhere," Johnson said. "And we're going to Brooklyn. We're not going to contract. We're going to Brooklyn."
Derrick Williams FTW.
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Didn't we get three first round picks for KMart?
Picks out of the top five or so are boring anyway.
Give me Carmela!
by No Sleep Till Brooklyn on Feb 17, 2011 9:47 PM EST reply actions
This is what I don't understand.
We can have both. We don’t need to offer all of this when we can beat any offer with much, much less.
"I don’t think we want to be like the Knicks. I think we’d more like to resemble the Lakers." - Mikhail Prokhorov
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that's bs,
denver is playoff team, no lottery picks.
Favors – top 3 pick.
2011 NJ pick – lottery pick.
Plus 3 more lottery picks.
Plus Harris.
Plus all the other Denver junks… This will set the team back for years!!! Just look at the Isiah run Knicks team. How many years did they suffer??? It took master work from Walsh to clean the team!
by netfan1972 on Feb 17, 2011 9:53 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I bet only one of those picks becomes lottery, if the trade goes down during the break.
Outside of Favors.
by No Sleep Till Brooklyn on Feb 17, 2011 9:55 PM EST up reply actions
NJ 2011 #1 is a guaranteed lottery pick and the GSW pick will be lottery.
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Nets could feasibly make a run at the 8 seed with Melo and Billups.
GSW pick is definitely not a lock for the lottery.
Even the most likely scenario has those as fringe lottery picks…
by No Sleep Till Brooklyn on Feb 17, 2011 10:03 PM EST up reply actions
Tell that to the Bulls.
"I don’t think we want to be like the Knicks. I think we’d more like to resemble the Lakers." - Mikhail Prokhorov
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Tell what to the Bulls?
They have a superstar, who was far from a fringe lottery pick.
The Nets have no such player.
by No Sleep Till Brooklyn on Feb 17, 2011 10:05 PM EST up reply actions
Their pick was a fringe lottery pick. They won the lottery.
Also, the GSW pick is valuable because of how stacked the 2012 draft is. It’s been compared to the ’03 draft.
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Set the team back from where exactly ?
We are a bottom feeder with no Free Agents really wanting to come here unless they overpay. All we will do is keeping letting go all of the draft picks that didn’t work out and replace them with another crop of hopefuls. Heck , Lopez is likely already thinking about leaving this dump and not signing an extension.
"This isn’t fantasy or rotisserie basketball. Why would Denver want Outlaw? Would you?"
by strange-brew on Feb 17, 2011 9:57 PM EST up reply actions
He'll go top 5 no doubt.
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Insanity with the current management,
could King be this stupid? didn’t he graduate from Duke?! Or it’s our coach the mastermind behind all this madness? Denver/Melo have been teasing and teasing you; yet we continue to crave in and give up more and more assets. WHY!?
by netfan1972 on Feb 17, 2011 9:48 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Trying to think of a way to tie this picture in to the Melo fiasco to keep it relevant but screw it....
Archer’s on tonight. Melo can wait.
by JohnFromLongIsland on Feb 17, 2011 9:48 PM EST reply actions
everyone knows the lakers pick is a high first almost second,
Golden States is heavily protected, If we give up our 2012 pick, we’ll most likely be in the playoffs with Melo and new team. Really just risking our Lottery pick from this year and what if Denver ends up picking a bust anyway
Heavily protected? No it's not.
GSW won’t be one of the 7 worst teams with Monta, David Lee and Steph. 2012 is a stacked draft. Also, I don’t understand what Denver picking a bust has to do with anything. The Nets would be the ones making the decision with that pick.
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espn video of guy asking people where they think melo will go funny thing is:
1) he is standing right in from of msg
2) He asks where will melo wind up: nuggets knicks or LAKERS haha nets are not even mentioned
I can't take these trade rumors again...
Seriously, kill me now.
Here we go again..
Putting our heads on the chopping block, Just for Melo to chop it off,I do not have a good feeling about this, This is why Proky is making the stance that he is, No doubt, Harris gots to go,hopefully, Petro,and Outhouse too,But with all this extravagant 1st round picks and player package,makes me strongly doubt anything will happen,And Melo will posture for the Knicks to make decision,and reject us in LA..
Mortgage the future
for someone who doesn’t want to come here is a total joke!
You need a star to start building in the NBA.
It’s laughable how you guys want to hang on to a losing ball club.
by No Sleep Till Brooklyn on Feb 17, 2011 9:56 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Well. We wouldn't be mortgaging the future if he wouldn't want to come here.
We’d be mortgaging the future for someone who did want to come here, but we’d be mortgaging the future nonetheless.
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if he wants to be here,
he will be here already!
Maybe, but your logic is flawed.
The trade won’t go through if he doesn’t sign off on the extension which means he won’t come here if he doesn’t want to be here.
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Original.
Anyway, we can have a future with Melo and our picks. No one can beat a much scaled down offer of the proposed one.
Arguing about the draft picks value is pointless because there’s no reason to give them up when we don’t have to.
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Won't believe anything until the press conference (even that is no certainty with the Nets -- remember Rolli?)
I was all pumped the first time the rumors flew in September/October. Was suckered in again come December and yet again in January. I am finally numb to it all and read the rumors for what they are — rumors. Expect nothing and hope for the best.
by nynjlawyer on Feb 17, 2011 9:59 PM EST via mobile reply actions
not which 4 out of the 5 first round picks we're giving them...
but remember we have 3 first round picks from t-will who sits on the bench in houston, and marcus williams whos not in the nba. we dont know how favors is gonna turn out. and this years draft is weak. yea its a bad trade, but you gotta do what you gotta do.
So Melo and his people find out that the Nuggets and Nets have been talking yesterday
and info leaks when???
hahahahhaha Melo is so full of crap.
Dude leak it so the Knicks would make a move.
He is still using the Nets.
You can’t trust this guy right here.
"Do you remember when Martin had a dream and Bobby had a regiment"
by killa kadafi191 on Feb 17, 2011 10:01 PM EST reply actions
can't meet with this guy
he is playing games right now. The Nets and Nuggets been talking for a week no knows anything. Nuggets tell Melo and his people yesterday and all of sudden word is out.
come onnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn.
Fool me once shame on you
fool me twice shame on me
what comes after three times?? He is using the Nets
"Do you remember when Martin had a dream and Bobby had a regiment"
by killa kadafi191 on Feb 17, 2011 10:05 PM EST up reply actions
the only people getting fooled are the media and nets fans
proky is not gonna bow down to melo
real owner roll call needs to take place right now so the nets dont get jerked around
i hope proky know how to survive in south central this weekend and doesnt fold under pressure
it will be a westside slaughterhouse at the owners meeting and proky needs to show he is a big fish among the other guppy owners
oh yeah and it b. king foe life handling trades and free agency. they need to make avery go to chuuch whenever its time handle business
The realist keepin it real amongst the surrealists
by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Feb 17, 2011 10:12 PM EST up reply actions
As said before.,,
This is nothing more than posturing, for the Knicks to make a move,And I believe it to be so, until something more concrete reveals itself, ala. Melo saying from his own mouth,he’ll agree to Nets Terms, Good Luck with that!!!
I figure that at first
but come on if the Nets know he and his team are leaking the info that have to know why they are doing.
that alone tells you what he thinks about the Nets
"Do you remember when Martin had a dream and Bobby had a regiment"
by killa kadafi191 on Feb 17, 2011 10:10 PM EST up reply actions
so this could end up being
derrick favors, devin harris, terrence jones, nolan smith, austin rivers, kyrie irving, or kawhi leonard. for carmelo anthony, chauncey billups, renaldo balkman, shelden williams, anthony carter. plus denver owns picks can translate into marcus morris and kris joseph. i know all the variables blah blah but bottom line is denver is going to be a better team than new jersey in 5 years if this deal i anything close to what is rumored
The realist keepin it real amongst the surrealists
by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Feb 17, 2011 10:06 PM EST reply actions
Absolutely.
"I don’t think we want to be like the Knicks. I think we’d more like to resemble the Lakers." - Mikhail Prokhorov
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Or they can turn into
Renaldo Balkman , Travis Outlaw, Stephen Graham, and Johan Petro.
Look at King's drafting history.
http://hoopshype.com/general_managers/billy_king.htm
He’s done great things with picks much worse than what the Nets will have. you really have that little faith in him?
He’s a great judge of talent.
"I don’t think we want to be like the Knicks. I think we’d more like to resemble the Lakers." - Mikhail Prokhorov
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If they are traded
how is Billy King going to draft them?
The guy is talking about if they were traded.
He's saying hypothetically what we could have to what we will be getting.
"I don’t think we want to be like the Knicks. I think we’d more like to resemble the Lakers." - Mikhail Prokhorov
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That's how I read it. IDK though.
"I don’t think we want to be like the Knicks. I think we’d more like to resemble the Lakers." - Mikhail Prokhorov
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check king's TRADE history!
it’s horrible!!!
by netfan1972 on Feb 17, 2011 10:17 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Umm. Yeah it is. So why are we trusting him to facilitate a move that will impact the Nets for years to come?
His trade history has nothing to do with draft history.
I’d trust drafting Billy King to trading Billy King anyday. The Sasha and Murphy trades were pretty good though.
"I don’t think we want to be like the Knicks. I think we’d more like to resemble the Lakers." - Mikhail Prokhorov
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i'm afraid it's avery johnson
that’s making the call! He might be a good coach with a mature team like Dallas… but so far he doesn’t seem to be a good preacher for a young team! Plus, he’s horrible with talent evaluation! Check out all the free agents that he ADDED with the Nets and Dallas…
LOL
How are the Nets getting THAT many top five picks?
by No Sleep Till Brooklyn on Feb 17, 2011 10:09 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
Exactly
I LOL at people thinking we’re giving away 4 top-5 picks.
by Anthony Perez on Feb 17, 2011 10:17 PM EST up reply actions
lemme break it down
favors = last years #3
t jones = 2011 nj lottery pick
nolan smith = LAL 2011 1st round pick
ausitn rivers = NJ 2012 lottery pick(if he comes out) variable blah blah
kyrie irving = GS pick going unprotected if they finish 2012 season or later outside the top 7 BEFORE the lottery(they are 26-29 currently this season 12th in the west and well out the top 7)
kawhi leonard = if GS pick doesnt not get placed in the top 10 of the lottery. variable blah blah
i didnt even include houstons heavily protected first but the first year they make the playoffs even if the pick is #15 it becomes unprotected for new jersey(which is why i cross my fingers and hope they snag nene or anyone else that can hurry up and get them in the playoffs)
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by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Feb 17, 2011 10:20 PM EST up reply actions
Irving will come out this year though.
"I don’t think we want to be like the Knicks. I think we’d more like to resemble the Lakers." - Mikhail Prokhorov
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Also, with T.Jones, we wouldn't be bad enough to get Irving IMO.
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he just got his cast removed this week
unless he goes on some type of beasley-esque tear through the acc and march madness i cant see anyone encouraging him to come out. unless he does not want to be a top pick. especially being at duke with seth curry there and austin rivers coming in. i think he wants to be a top 3 pick and will stay another year
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by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Feb 17, 2011 10:25 PM EST up reply actions
He would be a top 3 pick in this draft.
"I don’t think we want to be like the Knicks. I think we’d more like to resemble the Lakers." - Mikhail Prokhorov
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the joke starts with lebron james,
and didn’t go after amare… Amare was a free agent! it does not cost any picks! Plus, he WANTS to be here! Then we might add Melo for a much cheaper price! Now it’s a total joke!!!
I know most will disagree
but keeping the draft picks and Derrick Favors…who knows what may become of them in the future? Sure, it might turn out to be the next starting 5 for the USA Olympic team, however it may also turn out to be the next starting 5 for Springfield as well. Can’t always bank on the “what if’s”, we need to turn this around ASAP and Carmelo is stage one.
Seems like the talks with Portland
were more of a feeler by the nets so that the Nuggets could gauge what the Blazers would give up to get Harris.
This should be the deal
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=6y9swxc
I would send a good pick to Portland just for taking Outlaw. Nuggets should have nothing to complain about if they got that.
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Even if we gave them our pick from this year ... not protected?
That would have to be awful tempting and adding Harris and Morrow on top of that.
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Why are we giving the Nuggets Batum AND Favors?
"I don’t think we want to be like the Knicks. I think we’d more like to resemble the Lakers." - Mikhail Prokhorov
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That has always been what they were after all along
2 young forwards to build the team around in exchange for Melo. Its a sound deal.
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But, why are they getting Batum?
Why reward them even further when they are willing to do a deal without him? He’s unnecessary unless th Nets are keeping something else that they would be giving up in the proposed trade.
Also, if the Blazers were willing to do that, why wouldn’t we just forget Melo and trade for Batum by himself? He could fit with the young core and we would keep our draft picks.
The Blazers adore Batum though so it is a moot point.
"I don’t think we want to be like the Knicks. I think we’d more like to resemble the Lakers." - Mikhail Prokhorov
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Well, I never mentioned giving the Nuggets a single pick
And they shouldn’t even ask for one if they got those two.
Melo may not re-sign with the Blazers. That’s why it would not make sense to trade Batum for Melo.
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I meant NJ trading for Batum, but that deal is alright if NJ is keeping the other picks.
"I don’t think we want to be like the Knicks. I think we’d more like to resemble the Lakers." - Mikhail Prokhorov
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We want a star
That’s not what Batum is. He’s a pretty good young forward. Not sure he’s star material.
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cuz Avery Johnson
doesn’t have the patience for a young team.
It's more warranted than the OJ Mayo fascination
by Anthony Perez on Feb 17, 2011 11:02 PM EST up reply actions
This
"You can spend minutes, hours, days weeks or even months overanalyzing a situation; trying to put the pieces together, justifying what would’ve, could’ve happened – or you can just leave the pieces on the floor and move the **** on."
-Tupac Amaru Shakur
by NetsMets4Life on Feb 18, 2011 6:51 AM EST up reply actions
avery johnson = isiah thomas
who’s going to play defense?
by netfan1972 on Feb 17, 2011 10:15 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
From Larry Coon's Article----says it all......
“Just about any way you slice it, Anthony is much better off financially extending his current contract than becoming a free agent this summer in search of a new one. He knows that this year isn’t like any other year, and he’s not the one with all the leverage. The threat to leave as a free agent — a potent threat in other years — just doesn’t have the same teeth this year.
Anthony is better off taking the extension, whether it’s to remain a Nugget or to be traded to another team. He needs to work with Ujiri to achieve the best possible outcome.”
Larry Coon
ESPN
Paul from Sunny Delray Beach, Florida
knick fans dont understand that basketball is a business more than a game. Not many people would be willing to lose out on up to 40 million dollars
just to have a BETTER chance at winning
Bosh did not.
They also did not give up 40 million.
"I don’t think we want to be like the Knicks. I think we’d more like to resemble the Lakers." - Mikhail Prokhorov
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???
what?
"I don’t think we want to be like the Knicks. I think we’d more like to resemble the Lakers." - Mikhail Prokhorov
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bosh got a max deal
and wade and james are making 18 mil when they could have made up to 23 mil. plus the aforementioned florida tax laws makes up the loss for the pay cuts
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by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Feb 17, 2011 10:28 PM EST up reply actions
They should not have picked the phone up until melo's agent called
If it’s correct and I imagine it is, Melo has indicated he would not agree to an extension with the nets. Now it’s a game of chicken where Denver says we are only trading you to the nets and Melo is saying he will only extend with Knicks. Both sides might blink regardless of what they say. Melo has more to lose and probably is more likely to blink. But it makes sense for him to act like he won’t blink and wait. This all ends when proky meets with him and demands an answer. Key is Denver needs to tell Melo they are keeping him if he doesn’t do the deal. And mean it. Very interesting.
by whoopdeedamndo on Feb 17, 2011 10:23 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Bottom line
40 mln is a lot for Melo to be betting that Denver is bluffing. He is most likely to fold. Risking so much just to play on one side of the east river makes no sense. Family, friends and charities must be pushing him to not take that risk. Biggest risk for nets is he knows Denver is bluffing but I bet Boone knows yet what Denver will be doing.
by whoopdeedamndo on Feb 17, 2011 10:31 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
You are telling that Josh Boone is the mastermind behind all of this???
"You can spend minutes, hours, days weeks or even months overanalyzing a situation; trying to put the pieces together, justifying what would’ve, could’ve happened – or you can just leave the pieces on the floor and move the **** on."
-Tupac Amaru Shakur
by NetsMets4Life on Feb 18, 2011 6:52 AM EST up reply actions
This is NOT a bad trade
People here are placing too much value on with these draft picks. There are far more draft busts than booms, and there’s no way of knowing.
1. What # pick they will be because most are dependent on other team’s records
2. Most are pretty heavily protected
3. We could protect our 2011 if it’s included OR have them take our 2012.
So how valuable are those picks, in all honesty? It’s a toss up.
Meanwhile, we’re getting a replacement for Harris (basically the same production) who will be gone and off the books in time for CP3/D-Will free agency.
The only guy left in 2012 aside from Melo will be Balkman, who is making pennies ($1.6 million). We’ll have the flexibility to sign CP-3 or D-Will and end up with a stud PG and stud SF to go along with hopefully a stronger and more complete Lopez.
Plus we’ll still have plenty of $$ for other free agents and have to find AT LEAST a couple of decent role players with all those second round picks.
It's a bad trade relative to the market.
It’s like paying 1,000,000 for a car that everyone else is only willing to pay 500,000 for.
"I don’t think we want to be like the Knicks. I think we’d more like to resemble the Lakers." - Mikhail Prokhorov
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As I said in our other convo
The # of picks is inflated to off-set their value (heavy protections, etc).
We’ll be sending one REALLY good pick their way and the other 3 are potentially solid picks, but not exactly the place you get All-Star players. We don’t know exactly which picks we’re sending or what protections are involved in the picks of our own that we’re sending…
by Anthony Perez on Feb 17, 2011 10:30 PM EST up reply actions
You can get all-star talent with the NJ 2011 #1 and the GSW 2012 #1.
"I don’t think we want to be like the Knicks. I think we’d more like to resemble the Lakers." - Mikhail Prokhorov
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Who says we're sending both??
Or that ours won’t have protections attached?
by Anthony Perez on Feb 17, 2011 10:32 PM EST up reply actions
Well. It's hard to argue that. We don't know which picks yet.
If we give up both though, I’ll be p’od. We went through 110 losses to get the NJ 2011 #1 to the value it is as well as Favors.
It’s really a moot point right now. I really want to keep at least one.
"I don’t think we want to be like the Knicks. I think we’d more like to resemble the Lakers." - Mikhail Prokhorov
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not just draft picks,
also all the other Denver junks that will eat up salary cap!
Netfan1972
For the record of all the guys being mentioned coming back to NJ only one has a contract past next season and that is Balkman, and he makes than 2M a year, not to mention we will have Billups contract that we can buy out after this season for 3.7M, so I have no idea what you keep talking about with eating up salary cap… You are way off base… The only big contracts the Nets will have going into Brooklyn are ‘Melo and whatever deal they make with Brook, plus Oulaw’s awful contract, which I assure you they will figure out how to move by then which would only have 3 years left on it… So, you should look at facts before you start talking about what our salary cap will look like.
This team is awful, yet I watch every game, but enough is enough, they need to make major moves and if this deal is there, they have to take it, period!
if these were picks cenetered around 20-30 i wouldnt trip
but nj 11, nj 12, and gs 12-16 have a 99% chance of all three being top ten picks.
houston 12-18 has a 99% chance of first going unprotected as pick #15
the lakers pick is the only one that doesnt matter but this roster is so bad that the player at that pick would have immediate impact on this team and improve the team.
i mean this has a great chance of being seattle/okc build through the draft 2.0
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by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Feb 17, 2011 10:32 PM EST up reply actions
Again, who says all three of our best picks are part of the package?
We’re all speaking blindly. It’s likely one of those + 3 lesser picks to offset their value.
by Anthony Perez on Feb 17, 2011 10:34 PM EST up reply actions
I'd put the odds of the NJ 2012 being a top ten pick lower because of the talent from the NJ 2011 plus improvement in Lopez and Favors.
"I don’t think we want to be like the Knicks. I think we’d more like to resemble the Lakers." - Mikhail Prokhorov
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what we can take out of this...
…possibly…
…is that the Nugz and Nets are definitely in discussions. But despite what Woj is reporting, there haven’t been any offers made from one side or the other…
…and as for the Proky report that his stance hasn’t changed…I’m thinking it’s because nothing progresses until he and Anthony do meet, which may happen without anyone knowing. The Nets received permission a month ago. I don’t know for sure, but I’m thinking that permission was never taken back by Denver…meaning Nets are free to meet with him anytime. If Proky changes his stance now, and Anthony tells him ‘NO’, then Nets and their managment and their owner look dumb. If Proky keeps his poker face on, they can easily say a meeting never happened, the the reports of trade discussions were all erroneous.
thinking the same thing...
…maybe the first four rounders don’t include this year’s pick.
by Versifiervt on Feb 17, 2011 10:31 PM EST up reply actions
Lol and still we give up 4 draft picks
Come on Billy
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I'm down for the trade
it’s only sad that I’m going to see this group split. I liked what we had going but it was obvious we needed a star and go to scorer. I liked Harris, Favors, and Uzoh. However, this trade needs to be done. The Nets have no way in hades that we can sign a superstar (which is what we only need) but to result in this. Oh well there was only two ways we could get one trade or draft and I would like the faster route.
Avery Johnson is not the
right coach for a young team. He doesn’t seem to have the ability to teach young players!
by netfan1972 on Feb 17, 2011 10:34 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I wouldn't give up 4 picks
We need those for later especially without a longer term solution at PG. 1 or 2 picks max.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TDw48rY_nW8&feature=related
haha the reaction is classic
said the same thing
dude is playing games
"Do you remember when Martin had a dream and Bobby had a regiment"
by killa kadafi191 on Feb 17, 2011 10:35 PM EST up reply actions
Then again ... every deal with the Knicks were leaked as well
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true but as Netincome said
the Nets and Nuggets been talking for a week we hear nothing about it.
as soon as Melo camp finds out it has leaked.
WHAT THE F??
dude is full of it. It’s like saying look Knicks the Nets are back in it.
Sure you willing to wait till the deadline or summer.
this is why I said a meeting should not be necessary. Melo should know by now what he wants.
"Do you remember when Martin had a dream and Bobby had a regiment"
by killa kadafi191 on Feb 17, 2011 10:39 PM EST up reply actions
Only other thing the Knicks could offer is Stat
At this point pushing the Knicks does nothing Nuggets are asking for everything.
"We're not there yet, but we're going somewhere," Johnson said. "And we're going to Brooklyn. We're not going to contract. We're going to Brooklyn."
this
the Nets and Nuggets been talking for a week we hear nothing about it.
and once the first story leaks, an immediate and constant flow of seemingly BS information starts rolling out from all directions and all types of “sources.”
"It's like a finger pointing at the moon. Do not focus on the finger, or you will miss all the heavenly glory beyond." - Bruce Lee
42 points 8 assists and a turnover on MJ's birthday
Tomofey Mozgoz about getting dunked on by Blake Griffin "I didn't like it"
on PTI they were arguing over that
Wilbon loves Rose the other guy was like no Lebron…
Charles Barkley came on and the guy asked him and Charles sided with Wibon.
“When I come in Monday I’ll have some fresh crow for you Tony”-Wilbon
Tomofey Mozgoz about getting dunked on by Blake Griffin "I didn't like it"
ARE YOU PEOPLE SERIOUS
Listen to the Melo interview again. He said he wanted to sit and figure something out with Mr. Prohorov. He even seems to smile a bit more when mentioning the nets indirectly. He didn’t say I will not talk to the Nets or Mr. Prokhorov. Maybe he just wants to make sure he isn’t going to a screwed up franchise, and that Proky is a legit owner.
let me ask you something
do you think he would request to meet with the Knicks or Bulls owner before agreeing to be traded there??
this is the reason proky backed out at first they could not get a straight answer out of this guy
"Do you remember when Martin had a dream and Bobby had a regiment"
by killa kadafi191 on Feb 17, 2011 10:40 PM EST up reply actions
I understand but thats because we have had some bad years lately and I don’t blame a guy if he doesn’t know much about the owner or the Brooklyn move. If not for these talks would you know much about the Denver GM… no, so let the guy sit down and see what Proky has to say, he may be blown away, you never know!
still don't trust it
here is another way to put it.
lets say the meeting is schedule for Sat and the Knicks by some crazy chance come with a deal the Nuggets like. The Nuggets ask Melo we have a deal with the Knicks we like. We can okay it now or do you want to wait and see what Proky has to say.
what do you think Melo will say.
that’s why I say it’s all games
"Do you remember when Martin had a dream and Bobby had a regiment"
by killa kadafi191 on Feb 17, 2011 10:45 PM EST up reply actions
Lets put it this way...
The general belief, pushed by you and others, is that Melo doesn’t want to play for the Nets. No interested
And yet, with a Knick deal on the table, he is going to meet with Prokhorov. You think this is a courtesy call?
by Net Income on Feb 17, 2011 11:00 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
no one is going to sacrifice $10-$30 million dollars to play for the Knicks
theyre not that special.
NoMelo Era Record: 7-9
yeah so his choices are
1. get traded to knicks
2. re-sign with denver
3-17. get traded to another playoff team and decide to re-sign with them
18-24. go to a team already loaded unlike new jersey
25. test free agency
26. go to washington
10000000000000000000000000. go to new jersey
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by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Feb 18, 2011 12:30 AM EST up reply actions
Reports say Melo said there is no meeting
On NBATV when asked about a trade to this area (2 teams) he said he could go to other teams also.
Sounded like he wants no parts of coming here he keeps saying “Dener knows how I feel”.
/My 2 cents.
Tomofey Mozgoz about getting dunked on by Blake Griffin "I didn't like it"
If Melo wants to win,
why does he choose Nets or Knicks??? That’s the reason I don’t want him to on my team!
Umm...you'd be opposed to a player because he wants to go to the Nets?
Who cares what reason he comes here for?
"I don’t think we want to be like the Knicks. I think we’d more like to resemble the Lakers." - Mikhail Prokhorov
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It was hypothetical.
"I don’t think we want to be like the Knicks. I think we’d more like to resemble the Lakers." - Mikhail Prokhorov
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WFAN interview Kareem Abdul-Jabar the other day
He was traded from Milwaukee to the Lakers but he said his first choice was the Knicks back then.
These kinds of things happen all the time. Honestly, SO WHAT IF MELO’S FIRST CHOICE IS THE KNICKS?
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Yeah
Apparently Proky’s 1st choice to buy a sports team was the knicks too but in the end he bought the nets, says a lot really. Melos got to realise life isnt fair and you dont get the best of both worlds, its either nets for his money or the knicks for his “ultimate dream”.
if he really wants to come,
then we shouldn’t need to trade favors + haris + 4 draft picks…
Don't understand the logic here.
How does his desire to come here influence what Denver wants from suitors.
"I don’t think we want to be like the Knicks. I think we’d more like to resemble the Lakers." - Mikhail Prokhorov
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why didn't knicks up their offer?
it’s because Melo wants to go there!
Denver still requested Chandler, Fields, Gallo, Mozgov and Felton as well as Curry's contract.
The desire of Melo doesn’t change the desire of Denver.
"I don’t think we want to be like the Knicks. I think we’d more like to resemble the Lakers." - Mikhail Prokhorov
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it did change the Knicks' stand!
if Melo wants to come the Nets, you think we would be in this position? the logic is pretty simple. the knicks have leverage knowing that if Melo becomes a free agent, then he will sign with the knicks. the nets have to offer the bank knowing that they have no chance signing him as a free agent…
It didn't change Denver's stand though.
For either the Nets or Knicks to have Melo on their roster prior to the deadline, they will have to pay exorbitant prices.
"I don’t think we want to be like the Knicks. I think we’d more like to resemble the Lakers." - Mikhail Prokhorov
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it's the game of chicken,
i am not talking about denver. of course they want as much as possible for their asset. I am talking about the Nets & Knicks’ stand due to Melo’s desire!!! Don’t you get it?
Four 1st rounders?!?!???
Holy Jeebus, FOUR? Not two, or even three, but FOUR?!!!?
by Jon Bubs on Feb 17, 2011 10:49 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Yes, but I'm sure Nets keep their own 2012 pick.
I always knew that the LA pick would be gone in the end.
To give up the 2012 Houston pick (lottery protected), I expected something in return, such as them taking Outlaw for Harrington.
Instead we are able to keep Morrow and get Ely and Sheldon Williams and we don’t have to take back Hamilton’s bad contract.
I am still waiting to find out if we will guarantee Billups next year.
I guess the Portland deal is off.
I'd rather to deal for Andre Miller, Fernandez, and Pryzbilla
and vanquish Outlol to Siberia (Portland, w/e)
4 1st rounders plus favors plus harris plus murphy
can we offer this to utah for deron williams and kirilenko???
I wish I could get Net Income's opinion on this proposed deal
Granted we don’t know what picks they are.
I have returned from dinner with my family
1. the four picks are: the Nets 2011 pick (unprotected); the Lakers 2011 pick (protected 1-18); the Warriors 2012 pick (protected 1-7) and the Rockets 2012 pick (protected 1-14).
2. the Nets retain their first round pick in 2012 and all their second rounders in 2011, 2012 and keep the Heat pick in 2012.
3. the Blazer deal was a fall-back.
by Net Income on Feb 17, 2011 11:07 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
kinda ouch.. i think we are giving up one too many 1st rounders..
though the rockets pick is garbage anyhow based on how it is protected
by orangeeater on Feb 17, 2011 11:09 PM EST up reply actions
wow that's terrible
Derrick Favors #3 pick + 2011 NJ pick which could be in the top 5+ GS pick TOP 10 + Harris For Melo + 35 years old Billups and a bunch of scrubs??
HELL NO.
so if it were three first round picks
and we kept the fourth most valuable first round pick, the Rockets lottery protected pick in 2012, you’d be okay with it?
No.
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Who cares...
Proky can buy as many 1st round picks as he wants guys… If Melo does come, Chris Paul or Darren Williams will join in 2012 or sooner… In a perfect world, I would love to keep the GSW pick and give them our 2012, but I don’t think we can trade back to back picks that are generated by the team itself, we can only trade picks that we acquired…. Is it steep, probably, but is it worth it? Absolutely, assuming there are no major injuries down the road…
We keep Morrow and require Nuggets to take Murphy which means we don't have to take back Hamilton's bad contract.
Ely and Sheldon Williams have done good this year.
The big question is whether we guarantee Billups for next year – otherwise he may lose million and would be an unhappy camper the remainder of the season. Melo would be more likely to sign with Billups coming along.
Two Bad Picks & Two Very Good Picks
Houston’s pick & the Lakers pick don’t hold much value.
I’d rather just cut out Billups, Harris & one of the good picks from the deal. Denver wants to dump Billups & be well compensated for it. Billups also doesn’t want to come here. If Harris is dealt, I’d rather make the Portland deal.
I do not want this trade to go through.
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I dont want to give up the warriors pick..they can take this year’s. NOT THE WARRIOR PICK!
NoMelo Era Record: 7-9
The 2012 draft is stacked.
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that is crap
there’s no way this late in the season they can cough up this year’s pick unprotected. they have to only give up houston, la, and nets 1st round pick next year(protected) and nets second round this year. i’d rather send outlaw for brandon roy or greg oden then get fleeced by denver
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by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Feb 18, 2011 12:34 AM EST up reply actions
Think of it as two deals.. what is fair value for billups, williams, ely, balkman?
harris and a 1st?
so melo for murphy, favors and 3 1sts.. and then the harris deal
Maybe we are giving one too many 1st rounders.. but we dont know. maybe they are protected
QUESTION NI
How confident are you in this deal and Melo signing off?
Proky can say he never lied
he didnt want to trade for carmela.. but he does want to trade for carmelo..see how he is sneaky?
Damn to be honest,
I dont really like the deal besides billups and melo. Outlaw will still be here, we’re getting a few denver scrubs back and we’re giving FOUR? FOUR 1st rd picks which im sure 1 of it is our 2011 1st rd pick. Cmon……..
The thing about Melo's camp leaking the Nets story to push the Knicks makes no sense at this point
The nuggets are asking for about there whole team, only thing they can ask for next is Stat. What else will Melo’s camp be pushing the Knicks to offer?
"We're not there yet, but we're going somewhere," Johnson said. "And we're going to Brooklyn. We're not going to contract. We're going to Brooklyn."
The Knicks would be wiser to just "bow out"
If the Knicks tried to get back in, their offer would only fall short of what Denver would want. Then Knicks would appear to be LOSERS.
Don’t forget that the Knicks don’t even have a single draft pick to offer, as the Minny connection (for Randolph) was never confirmed.
On the draft.
Lottery picks of value since 2001 except the 2010 IMO:
2001: #3 Pau Gasol, #5 Jason Richardon, #6 Shane Battier, #10 Joe Johnson, #13 Richard Jefferson, #14 Troy Murphy
2002: #1 Yao Ming, #7 Nene Hilario, #9 Amar’e Stoudemire, #10 Caron Butler
2003: #1 Lebron James, #3 Carmelo Anthony, #4 Chris Bosh, #5 Dwyane Wade, #6 Chris Kaman
2004: #1 Dwight Howard, #2 Emeka Okafor, #3 Ben Gordon, #5 Devin Harris, #7 Luol Deng, #9 Andre Iguodala (I could count #14 Kris Humphries, but I won’t)
2005: #1 Andrew Bogut, #3 Deron Williams, #4 Chris Paul, #5 Raymond Felton, #8 Channing Frye, #10 Andrew Bynum
2006: #1 Andrea Bargnani, #2 Lamarcus Aldridge, #6 Brandon Roy, #8 Rudy Gay, #11 J.J. Redick, # 13 Thabo Sefolosha
2007: #2 Kevin Durant, #3 Al Horford, #5 Jeff Green, #9 Joakim Noah
2008: #1 Derrick Rose, #2 Michael Beasley, #4 Russell Westbrook, #5 Kevin Love, # 6 Danilo Gallinari, #7 Eric Gordon, #9 D.J. Augustin, #10 Brook Lopez
2009: #1 Blake Griffin, #3 James Harden, #4 Tyreke Evans, #7 Stephen Curry, #9 Demar Derozan, #10 Brandon Jennings
That’s 51 out of 126 which is 40.48 %. 25 of those were taken outside of the top 5. With Billy King’s draft history and our plethora of picks, I’d rather take those odds.
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by Maxyboy on Feb 17, 2011 11:14 PM EST reply actions 2 recs
true but hight value not #1
pau, joe johnson, amare, mela, bosh, wade, deron, oaul, aldridge, roy(ill still count him bc injury a fluke), gay, durant, noah, westbrook, love
15/126
by orangeeater on Feb 17, 2011 11:24 PM EST up reply actions
fire avery johnson & billy king already!
even if Melo turns down the nets, it still shows the ineptness of this management!
by netfan1972 on Feb 17, 2011 11:15 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
yeah i don't see how this deal is much of an improvement from the last one
smh..this is still a horrible deal
they took two steps back to
fall down the cliff. wtf. king, proky, avery are clueless if they are even close to agreeing to these terms. does uriji and kroenke have incriminating info on the nets FO or something?
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by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Feb 18, 2011 12:39 AM EST up reply actions
so you know for sure we will be giving up this years pick, i don’t like the trade then, cause we still wouldn’t be good, but theres more to it though cause if can get paul or williams to play alongside with lopez/melo, that can be a contender. why not give up only 2, its still better than the knicks with favors. you always suppose to sell low first
The window that we have with D-Will, Melo and Lopez coincides with the window of the Heat.
That team will never get out of the Eastern Conference IMO. No defense or PF.
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Is it worth it if we can't win a chip?
We’ll just have to go back into rebuilding in a few years.
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This thing is a wrap
Melo will be a Net. 100%.
I’m going to buy a jersey.
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NI
Why do you think Prokhorovs spokeswoman said what she said, is it to keep things private?
What people also have to remember with this deal as well is that if we get Melo
Williams, Paul, or Howard will be here.
"We're not there yet, but we're going somewhere," Johnson said. "And we're going to Brooklyn. We're not going to contract. We're going to Brooklyn."
I want to get an NJ one just so I'm not called a bandwagoner when Brooklyn becomes popular.
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instead of buying nets jerseys when i should have
i bought lebron in 04, dwight in 05, and pau gasol in 06. plus a bunch of mitchelland ness nfl/mlb throwbacks. really wish i had a kidd/vc/or cliff robinson dark blue
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by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Feb 18, 2011 12:42 AM EST up reply actions
i already have
a brooklyn nets sweatshirt. not league official, but i still get comments on it everytime i wear it.
How? After seeing what happened to Cleveland and Toronto, won't those teams trade them like Denver is?
We have no more assets to get the deal done at that point.
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Agree 100%!
1st time I agree with you tonight! there wouldn’t be any all star free agents after james & melo!!! if you have no chips (draft picks & potential studs), then you wouldn’t get any of these players. plus, if you have no draft picks, then you can’t draft your own potential stars!!! Melo plus Lopez equate to 1st round exists…
Yes but the team trading for them would have to be a place where they would sign the extension
Or else a team would rent them where we could then scoop them up if a trade for Melo goes through. Most teams that are doing well won’t have many assets.
"We're not there yet, but we're going somewhere," Johnson said. "And we're going to Brooklyn. We're not going to contract. We're going to Brooklyn."
What people also forget that Williams, paul or Howard may not happen
And we stuck for 7 years with Melo+Lopez+nothing. Hello first round exit!
by Belarus4life on Feb 17, 2011 11:41 PM EST up reply actions
Melo will do all alone like Marbury...
then force the Nets to trade him in 2 years… you think we can get 4 draft picks plus harris & favors back?
Do you know what Marbury got the Nets?
Top 5 Net player of all time, his name is J-Kidd.
and?
It’s much more than just Kidd – good draft picks with Richardson, Kittles, Martin set the tone as well!
NO DEAL
We are not the desperate ones here. Take them to take a hike.
Favors+Murphy+ GS pick+ Rockets pick for Melo alone. Don’t like it? Have fun with Fields+Gallo+Curry+ and a bad pick.
How?
Two lottery picks, an extra pick and cap relief is better than Fields, Gallo, cap relief and the Utah pick.
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Fields is the 2nd best rookie, because Griffin hurt himself last year
On a crazy cheap contract.
Gallo has a lot of potential.
Favors has shown himself to be far behind Fields.
Who the heck knows where our pick this year ends up after we get Melo. Maybe #11 in a weak draft???
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The GSW pick is the one Claud proposed. that's a good pick in a stacked draft.
Favors has more value than Fields. Don’t even go there. You think the talks with the Nets would have gone this far if we had only Fields instead of Favors?
You can’t sell your fans on the potential of Gallo.
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fields on any other team
would not be in the conversation. john wall is that good anywhere he plays, if not better elsewhere
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Favors is # 3 pick with Franchise/allstar type potential.... you can sell that to your fan base.
add that a possible top 10 pick(GS pick) + Salary relief and an extra pick that can help you fill out your team.
Knicks? Gallo is a soft role player and fields will start over Afflalo? PUUUULease. Curry and Murphy are pretty much the same and the Knicks picks won’t match our GS pick that’s for sure.
He doesn't remind me of any of those 4.
I see him more like a 19 year David Robinson aka the admiral. His physique reminds me of Karl the mailman Malone too. I doubt he turns into one of those HOF but that’s just what I see. I believe Favors will be a franchise player 3-5 years from today.
Even this kid wants Harris WITH Melo.
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I actually want us to sign VC to a low contract after hes done with phoenix so he can pair up with melo on the wings…… Imagine that
by BkNetsfan on Feb 17, 2011 11:29 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
This is a great trade, except for the '11 pick
Favors + Harris + Nobody + Nobody + 3 picks we could easily buy + 1 valuable pick
I’m a little mad that we didn’t have the ability to negotiate the ’12 pick instead, but Uriji has shown himself to be a great negotiator in this whole mess.
In the end, you are getting the BEST scorer in the NBA, a superstar, and someone to open up Brooklyn with CP3.
You don’t give up the ’11 pick knowing that?
Make no mistake, Billups is a great addition because he’s gone once CP3 comes.
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May I ask why so confident that is a wrap?
I would love to believe it myself but I’ve thought it was a wrap multiple times already.
This wouldn't have to do with a certain poster
Who has claimed for a week to have a SUPERB source saying something big was about to happen, now would it?
by Anthony Perez on Feb 17, 2011 11:32 PM EST up reply actions
Was it you he was talking to?
I think it Gminski mentioning how he couldn’t have a better source who said something big was gonna happen. I thought he was commenting back and forth with you and was going to e-mail you with the scoop
by Anthony Perez on Feb 17, 2011 11:35 PM EST up reply actions
There’s two valuable picks. Also giving them those plus Favors and Harris when no one can come close to that is what I’m upset about.
If the Knicks could even come close to that offer I would understand, but ours is up in the stratosphere.
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Yeah I hear you at least Morrow and James would be staying
"We're not there yet, but we're going somewhere," Johnson said. "And we're going to Brooklyn. We're not going to contract. We're going to Brooklyn."
I guess we should trade it for Joey Graham then.
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Especially since our 2012 pick will be crap with our borderline playoff team.
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agree denver needs to be punished for not dealing with us sooner
hurt our record.. which made our 2011 pick better for them
2011 should be top 10 protected or something like that
by orangeeater on Feb 17, 2011 11:30 PM EST up reply actions
How would we get CP3 without anything to offer NO? They are going to trade him before the deadline.
CP3 may be on the way down anyway.
there's a possibility of a franchise tag too
Not a good idea to put all your eggs in one basket. I have hope Proky is smarter than what these reports are suggesting.
I was thinking that one additional advantage of Proky's (nothing has changed) stance is to keep the Knicks guessing and delay them from reentering talks.
However, with the offer of 4 picks + Harris + Favors, there really isn’t any point to Knicks getting back in and being rejected by Nuggets. It would make Knicks look like losers.
Better for Knicks to take the high road and maintain they have good chemistry already.
Elone you would make one bad
stockbroker bro. We are offering 1 million dollars for something worth 500k and the closest offer to ours would be around 400k if even. We need to just wait and let THEM get desperate and cut a better deal. No rush in our part.
Then Prokhorov would make a bad stockbroker as well
Buying a 12 win team that is DEEP in debt.
Stockbrokers see things by the minute. Real wealth comes from long range planning.
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This is a bad deal long term.
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Not at all
I don’t value any of those picks except our ‘11. I think that’s a sacrifice, and I’m not very happy about it.
But I sense some urgency on all sides to come to a deal.
And this deal is massively reduced from the last huge multi-team trade.
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You don't value the GSW pick?
I don’t see how:
Devin Harris
Ben Uzoh
Favors
Murphy
Four 1st Rounders is drastically reduced in value from
Petro
Graham
Ross
Uzoh
Harris
Morrow
Murphy
Favors
2 or 3 picks.
The first deal might have even been better. SMH.
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Well. I have to have faith in Proky.
He said at some point the price is too expensive and this would qualify.
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And this deal is massively reduced from the last huge multi-team trade.
Really?
So what about this eLone: you meet a girl, you think she looks good, you’re trying to smash, but she’s playing hard to get and you have blue-balls. Eventually, you find out that all you have to do is buy her item x, but instead because you’re so consumed by your desperation you buy her item x and y.
Seems logical.
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How much of that is offset by his horrific defense?
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No you didn't. I questioned how much he does on the offensive side is canceled out by his lack of defense.
Cory Maggette put up over 30 on him yesterday.
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That’s funny because Durant is more efficient AND scores more points. Interesting.
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Durant is superior to Melo already at his age
Melo is a really good scorer that doesn’t play D and is not a leader. We’re not talking about a Jason Kidd type trade here Folks. I think he is an excellent piece, but he is NOT a leader.
I want him but not at the reported price, not even close.
durant actually tries and gets blocks and steals
melo lets everyone go off on him. he prefers to trade buckets instead of locking a guy up. that guy isnt gonna miss if you keep giving up layups and open shots
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by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Feb 18, 2011 12:47 AM EST up reply actions
he needs a defensive-minded coach to light that fire in him
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why are you so convinced that players don't adapt their games to their given situation?
its what makes the great players truly great. kobe’s game has evolved over the last 15 years. thats why he is STILL winning chips. ray allen was always a pure spot-up shooter. even kris humphries cut down on the outside jumpers and became more of a rebounding presence as was required of him by this “all new” team
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ray allen *wasn't always...
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its been 7 years and he has yet to play two consecutive possesions of solid defense
and ray allen made over 1,000 3’s while in milwaukee. he was the primary option on milwaukee and seattle and had to create his shot and come off screens a lot. spotting up is nothing for him. kobe evolved but as soon as shaq left the lakers fell apart until they got gasol
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by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Feb 18, 2011 1:30 AM EST up reply actions
Billups is better than Harris
Melo is better than Favors, and 4 Picks suck it up Net fans.
Lopez / Petro / Ely
Humphries /Williams / Balkman
Anthony / James / Outlaw
Morrow / Vujacic / Ross
Billups / Farmar / Carter (Maybe)
what are you smoking?
Billups at 35 years old is not better than Harris.
by netfan1972 on Feb 17, 2011 11:34 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Billups is 34. That extra year is important. The way he plays (3pt shooting and play making), he could be around for a while.
Billups is a better leader than Harris. That was Devin’s biggest problem, besides the injuries.
He will want his $$ too though
Billups would only come if we GUARANTEE HIM we will pay him his money next year and not just 3.7mill
Billups,
50 32.2 .438 .441 .921 2.4 5.3 16.4
Harris,
53 32.0 .425 .302 .839 2.4 7.7 15.0
With the Nets team, and still averages 2.4 more assists per game. I can not see how Billups is an upgrade over Harris!
Harris leadership
gets derail by his coach! Plus, Billups leadership did not lead Denver to anything in the last couple of years.
WCCS
Is not leading your team to anything, rriiiggght.
Never mind the championship he won in 2004...
…after beating the Nets….oh and being named the NBA Finals MVP
by Anthony Perez on Feb 18, 2011 12:34 AM EST up reply actions
yeah 2004 what has he done then in the nba
harris thanks to very’s poor coaching had to suffer on dallas’ greatest teams ever losing to the heat in the finals and golden state in the first round. put harris on a team like dallas again with a real coach that didnt pick up nellie’ leftovers and he would be a beast
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by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Feb 18, 2011 12:50 AM EST up reply actions
You mean aside from going to Western Conference Championships?
It’s more than Paul or D-Will have done, isn’t it?
This logic = fail
by Anthony Perez on Feb 18, 2011 10:25 AM EST up reply actions
Exactly you can't see so open your eyes
and you will see, Billups is clutch, a leader, Finals MVP , has a ring, and is the PG besides a CP3 OR DW that Melo wants.
It’s not all about stats.
The other advantage is that Billups almost guarantees that Melo would sign extension.
And Billups would keep Melo “in line” as a Net. I can’t imagine Devin controlling a team with Melo.
Billups
should not be in the same sentence as Kidd and Nash!!! Kidd and Nash elevates their team mates… I do not see how Denver improves after getting Billups as their point guard!
nash is one of the greatest point guards ever
and he cant even play defense. billups wont sniff the basketball hall of fame. if billups was so priceless why is denver trying to dump him so lawson can get more burn? and why would melo think having chauncey on a cruddy nets team is better than having chauncey on a loaded nuggets squad?
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by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Feb 18, 2011 12:54 AM EST up reply actions
Very wrong
Billups won player of the week in the western conference. That means Durant, Kobe, Duncan, etc. all came behind Billups in performance.
Has Harris done that anytime in the last 3 years?
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But Harris had games of double digit assists consecutively.
As long as we’re using one week sample sizes, I think we can say Harris is the best PG in the league.
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Borderline.
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I have no idea.
I don’t know much about the basketball hall of fame. It’s not my forte.
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finals MVP and champ
tough to say though… probably not
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one week. out of 5 months
seems like an aberration to me. its kinda hard for harris to get good stats when he has to pick up the slack for everyone. teams load up on him and no one can consistently make shots for his assits
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by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Feb 18, 2011 12:55 AM EST up reply actions
it's not Uriji,
it’s our amateur front office!!!
What if there is a fanchise tag?
No good draft picks and stuck with just Melo and Lopez behind Miami, Chicago and the rest.
No thanks. I think Melo is a fantastic player, but he is a 2nd rate star. If he was Lebron, Kobe or even Durant I’d agree but not for Melo.
Call me crazy.
what does a franchise tag cost in nfl
2 1st rounders
by orangeeater on Feb 17, 2011 11:39 PM EST up reply actions
It will be weird in the NBA because it also has to agree with the Ted Stepein exception.
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4 picks?!
Then it should be murphy and outlaw for melo.
Getting Billups over Miller would certainly create more Buzz for Nets.
Does anyone have a Trade Machine version of the proposed trade.
It must be about finalized if BKing already threw in the 4th draft pick (I’m sure he was planning to hold out until the end).
The big advantage of deal is not to involve a 3rd team which could get messy. Too many moving parts.
It was when Nuggets refused to take Murphy, when the original deal went South (combined with Melo not willing to make a commitment at that time).
Proky can “save face” with a 2 team deal.
it's a joke
how did Proky save face where we end up sending more assets?!
Exactly.
At least we won’t be under Hamilton’s contract, right?
That makes it all worth it.
Sorry. it was hard to hold in my laughter there.
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Wrong again
Nets not giving up more assets.
Minus: James and Morrow – Taking on Harrington and Hamilton
Plus: 1 Pick
Yes, the Nuggets were trying to get DJames and Morrow at the time Proky called it off.
Does anyone know if Graham is going to Nuggets? He would be excess on Nets, although if he is warmed up Graham can play a little 2, 3, 1 and 4 positions (LOL). I assume Avery wants to keep Ross for backup SG and defense?
More??
We’re sending picks!! We always had 3 picks. Now we add a 4th. Three of them are not valuable at all since we could just buy them if we wanted. Our ‘11 could be very valuable – unless we start winning a lot of games, and then it’s mediocre in a mediocre draft.
Section 18, Row 7 at The Rock!
which three are not valuable? do you even know the protections on the picks?
only the lakers pick is certain to finish outside the top 20. last time i checked no one is selling picks 1-20
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by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Feb 18, 2011 12:59 AM EST up reply actions
Nets: Red square...
Some poor Russian graphic artist will be very busy very soon.
by kindofblue on Feb 17, 2011 11:50 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Hmm...
Harris
Morrow
T.Jones
Favors
Lopez
+GSW 1st rouder and NJ 2012 first rounder
or
Billups
Morrow
Melo
Hump
Lopez
with hardly any assets and a much shorter window to compete?
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Should've said different window.
The first option has a window that does not coincide with the Theetles.
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becuase they are a 100% lock to come here
just like all the free agents that came when kidd had this team in back-to-back finals and then they traded for carter?
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by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Feb 18, 2011 1:01 AM EST up reply actions
Fine: insert random draft prospect here.
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Hmm...
Our pick will not be that low.
In that draft: #1 Blake Griffin, #3 James Harden, #4 Tyreke Evans, #7 Stephen Curry, #9 Demar Derozan, #10 Brandon Jennings
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#17 Jrue Holliday
- Ty Lawson
- Darren Collison
- Rodrigue Beaubois
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Weird. That should be 18, 21 and 25 for those three.
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Also, the first scenario is under the NoMelo theory.
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People here care too much.
Whatever happens…we’re still going to watch the Nets.
NoMelo Era Record: 7-9
by Andy. on Feb 17, 2011 11:52 PM EST reply actions 5 recs
the most direct
quote in the entier process comes from the nets themselves.
“Mikhail has not changed his mind,” Pinchuk wrote.
When asked if that meant Prokhorov does not want the Nets to reopen talks with Denver at this point, the spokeswoman said:
“What I said is what I said,” she insisted. “Not what you said.”
i think this is a Denver/Melo leak= not what the deal will be
why would we leak it? no incentive at all.. and I bet that Proky has a tight lid on things after the last fiasco
so denver is gettng antsy,, decides to leak a dumb rumor to make the knicks jealous’’or melo releases it to make the knicks ante up so denver will accept the deal
I will et anyone here.. if we do a deal.. no more than 3 1st rounders.. or our 2011 pick is protected to some degree
when everyone starts losing their minds at the alleged price tag of carmelo anthony...
i keep thinking that he will never agree to sign an extension with a decimated team that actually got worse in acquiring him.
"It's like a finger pointing at the moon. Do not focus on the finger, or you will miss all the heavenly glory beyond." - Bruce Lee
do we know what the 4 picks are?
is it this years 1st, 2011 GSW pick, rockets pick, lakers pick?
It is funny though
because you said Wednesday night that you had a change of heart and think he will be a Net.
"You can spend minutes, hours, days weeks or even months overanalyzing a situation; trying to put the pieces together, justifying what would’ve, could’ve happened – or you can just leave the pieces on the floor and move the **** on."
-Tupac Amaru Shakur
by NetsMets4Life on Feb 18, 2011 7:03 AM EST up reply actions
How many times does he have to say
“I’d rather play for the knicks” for you people to get the hint?
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by The Last Shall Become First on Feb 18, 2011 12:07 AM EST up reply actions
Even though I’m not in the “Melo will be a Net” camp — he has yet to say that he’d rather play for the Knicks.
The Token Black-Jew
he said
“who wouldn’t want to play for the Knicks right now” …those words came out of his mouth
I’m gonna go head and guess you haven’t taken a logic class AND don’t have a grasp on simple linguistics.
The Token Black-Jew
that quote infers
he wants to play for the Knicks. He never mentioned anything about the Nets though
He said he has thought about what it would be like going home and opening the arena. it "...being crazy"
Melo is a double talker. He has said things that support the assumptions he is going to many different teams.
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he had a toast with Chris Paul
to joining up and playing in “new york”…Nets fans are delerious if they really think he’d wanna play for the nets just as much as the Knicks
yeah. i don't. I just dislike poor logic.
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???
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by Maxyboy on Feb 18, 2011 12:27 AM EST up reply actions 6 recs
Let’s play a game.
S loves apples.
S ponders the question “who wouldn’t want to eat apples?”
S would rather eat apples than oranges.
No gaps in that logic, right? It’s not even a valid argument, let alone a sound one.
The Token Black-Jew
thats retarded
you are over analyzing things
I hope they gut their team. I don't want that to happen to ours.
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The Spokeslady
that was with Prokorov during the Jan 19 conference was kind of mean to the reporters, who does she think she is?
I'm telling you, this thing is done
STEIN_LINE_HQ Marc Stein
Spokeswoman told AP that “Mikhail has not changed his mind,” but sources say he’s been directly negotiating w/Nuggets ownership this week
Section 18, Row 7 at The Rock!
It's because I want starpower
and since I could never get it in MarioKart on N64, I’ll settle for my favorite NBA team getting it.
Hey, I'm a season ticket holder
So I’m demanding some value for the tickets I paid for. So far I’ve received some great comps from the Nets, but I’d rather watch Melo every night than get upgraded to courtsides.
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You all have the letter E in your usernames.
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they think melo will be a net ?
"This isn’t fantasy or rotisserie basketball. Why would Denver want Outlaw? Would you?"
by strange-brew on Feb 18, 2011 12:03 AM EST up reply actions
i'm just waiting for ESPN to announce
some type of NBA Trade Deadline special to air after all the all-star week events. they’ve been beating this dead horse more than anyone, so i cant see them not cashing in on “the transaction”
"It's like a finger pointing at the moon. Do not focus on the finger, or you will miss all the heavenly glory beyond." - Bruce Lee
The Decision Part 2
and have Uijri make the announcement
we are trading carmelo to…..
carmelo, standing in front of the boys and girls club of bedford stuyvesant
“I’m taking my talents to coney island”
"It's like a finger pointing at the moon. Do not focus on the finger, or you will miss all the heavenly glory beyond." - Bruce Lee
he may only play a few months in newark...
if the lock out shortens or eliminates next season
"It's like a finger pointing at the moon. Do not focus on the finger, or you will miss all the heavenly glory beyond." - Bruce Lee
It's as simple as this
Melo can team up with the most dominent force in the NBA in Amar’e Stoudemire and possibly one of the NBA’s fastest rising stars in Raymond Felton and actually contend for an NBA championship, or he can join the Nets, not even come close to an NBA title and possibly not even make the playoffs. You people, don’t understand the days of the Knicks being the laughing stock of the league are over, they are indeed back. Now if Melo was added to the Kidd-Carter-Jefferson Nets, then yes, the Nets would have had a championship, but the current Nets are one sorry ass team and will remain that way for a long time. Sure you could live in the past and bring up the Nets 2002 and 2003 seasons and the Knicks decade of decadence, but that’s the past. We’re not dwelling in the past we are moving forward and are one piece away from becoming Sports next great dynasty
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by The Last Shall Become First on Feb 18, 2011 12:06 AM EST reply actions
you're one knee injury away from repeating the last decade...
and currently you’re talking about a .500 ball club in the East
"It's like a finger pointing at the moon. Do not focus on the finger, or you will miss all the heavenly glory beyond." - Bruce Lee
they are above .500!
why does everyone keep saying .500
without all teh trade rumors
they are realistically a 30-24 team..
Without all the trade rumors they are realistically a 30-24 team.
Can’t argue with that logic.
The Token Black-Jew
Nets won 3 in a row
after the trade rumors stopped. It def has a mental effect on the entire team
huge swing there
and reality is trade rumors
"It's like a finger pointing at the moon. Do not focus on the finger, or you will miss all the heavenly glory beyond." - Bruce Lee
your team is 28-26
like a two game swing makes a difference on a .500 basketball team? what are you even arguing? the nets could easily be 25-32 without all these trade rumors. reality is that there ARE trade rumors and our team is 17-40
"It's like a finger pointing at the moon. Do not focus on the finger, or you will miss all the heavenly glory beyond." - Bruce Lee
If ya didn't cancel
the Orlando game, ya’l be 20-32
One knee injury? Is that the best you could do?
Any team who doesn’t have their superstar play is not going to play their best, whether it be Stat, Melo, Griffin, Durant or Kobe. But we did play the Nets without Stat and what was the result, one of the Knicks biggest victories of the season
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by The Last Shall Become First on Feb 18, 2011 12:13 AM EST up reply actions
To all Knick trolls
You better not choke away the playoffs, if you do I have another gifparty just for you.
Tomofey Mozgoz about getting dunked on by Blake Griffin "I didn't like it"
Hmm...
Maybe this new revalation is just what the Knicks need to finally, and I do mean FINALLY, pull the trigger on this deal. Felton, Galo, Chandler, Curry and draft choice? Take em all, they all are pretty good role players, but to get Melo, damn right I’ll get rid of em
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by The Last Shall Become First on Feb 16, 2011 10:39 PM EST reply actions
The Nets would make the playoffs. That’s ridiculous. the East is so top heavy,
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Billups
Morrow
Melo
Hump
Lopez
is at least closel to
Felton
Who is your backup SG?
Melo
STAT
Turiaf
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You do realize that the Knicks are 28-26, right?
You see this is why I can’t hold productive conversations with Knicks fans.
The Token Black-Jew
by NBRITM on Feb 18, 2011 12:10 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
And where are the Nets?
We are just getting started, the Knicks are one win away from matching their win total from last season. Everybody knows the Knicks are not big time contenders yet and are going to take one of the final three playoff spots, but at least we are going to have a chance to play in the playoffs.
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by The Last Shall Become First on Feb 18, 2011 12:17 AM EST up reply actions
We've already passed our win total if you want to use that argument.
11 wins is not that big of a difference. You’re not world beaters.
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we already exceeded our win totals from last year!
BOOM
"It's like a finger pointing at the moon. Do not focus on the finger, or you will miss all the heavenly glory beyond." - Bruce Lee
Yes, yes you did
Because you only had 11 wins last season and have slightly improved due to the emergence of Derrick Favors, who none of you have any faith in
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by The Last Shall Become First on Feb 18, 2011 12:21 AM EST up reply actions
what are you talking about?
he’s going to land us carmelo anthony… haven’t you heard?
"It's like a finger pointing at the moon. Do not focus on the finger, or you will miss all the heavenly glory beyond." - Bruce Lee
i hate to break it to you
but you are being used….again
i'm actually being sarcastic
there’s no other way to approach a conversation with knicks fans
"It's like a finger pointing at the moon. Do not focus on the finger, or you will miss all the heavenly glory beyond." - Bruce Lee
I have faith in him...
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How is this relevant to what I said? Knicks fans are hilarious, sorry. It’s as if you guys don’t have a grasp on logic.
The Token Black-Jew
log·ic
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1.
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2.
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3.
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so wait
You are back from being god awful to mediocre(barely above .500) and are now one piece away from becoming the next great sports dynasty? LMAOOOOOOOO. Only Knicks fans I tell you.
FAIL
That was then, this is now
Stat Melo Ray/Billups, the next big three
The Nets, the new laughing stock of the NBA
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by The Last Shall Become First on Feb 18, 2011 12:26 AM EST up reply actions
Whoever it is
It’s a win-win situation
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by The Last Shall Become First on Feb 18, 2011 12:29 AM EST up reply actions
Denver wants Ray, bro.
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I like the guy
But if thats what it takes, then good-bye Raymond Felton
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by The Last Shall Become First on Feb 18, 2011 12:32 AM EST up reply actions
???
possibly one of the NBA’s fastest rising stars in Raymond Felton
Stat Melo Ray/Billups, the next big three
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by Maxyboy on Feb 18, 2011 12:33 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I said "Possibly"
None of us have any idea if he’ll be traded, but if he is he will be replaced by Billups
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by The Last Shall Become First on Feb 18, 2011 12:38 AM EST up reply actions
All I'm saying is that you change your stance on players solely based on whether or not it will make NYK look good.
Some consistency would be nice.
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Jerry
If those guys through i oe you a beer at the first nets game with melo in a uniform. You’ve stayed consistent with your feelings about melo coming here and i gave you a lot of crap about it. i’ll owe you one if he does.
Yes, I deserve an award for consistency.
Others on this board have shifted back and forth like a pendulum.
Even NI was pessimistic lately, although I would like to find out if he knew more than he said, so as to keep the hard-line stance that Proky wanted.
BKing could write a book about this later on.
I would also say that if Billy King has thrown in the 4th pick, that this deal is about final and Knicks would get rejected even if they tried to reenter talks.
I'm pretty sure King
is sleeping right now so….Im out.
some more info
STEIN_LINE_HQ But sources told ESPN.com that Nuggets would not get all four firsts. At least one would be packaged with Troy Murphy to a TBD third team
So is it five picks now or to to DEN and two to team unknown?
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would that bring players from the unknown team to NJ or DEN?
I am VERY against Lebron, completely ignoring the stats. He ruins teams, despite what his great stats say. I dont care what anyone says, he ruins teams. - anonymous nets fan
by lemmetakeutodamovies on Feb 18, 2011 12:39 AM EST up reply actions
And it develops more...
STEIN_LINE_HQ Marc Stein
But sources told ESPN.com that Nuggets would not get all four firsts. At least one would be packaged with Troy Murphy to a TBD third team
Section 18, Row 7 at The Rock!
That doesn't make the price any less exorbitant.
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unless we're getting something in return from team TBD
"It's like a finger pointing at the moon. Do not focus on the finger, or you will miss all the heavenly glory beyond." - Bruce Lee
How do we know that?
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we'd just be sending off $12 million
in expiring money and get nothing in return?
"It's like a finger pointing at the moon. Do not focus on the finger, or you will miss all the heavenly glory beyond." - Bruce Lee
With the way this has gone, I'd assume DEN would get something because we need to send a pick just to get rid of Murphy.
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Pistons were going to get Murphy and a first rounder for Hamilton and Summers.
NoMelo Era Record: 7-9
That was beneficial to DET. They need to get rid of Rip's onerous contract.
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DEN has consistently said it won’t take Murphy’s $12M expiring for luxury-tax reasons. It’s believed teams out there WOULD to get that pick
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via Stein.
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Denver is the greediest team in the league.
"I don’t think we want to be like the Knicks. I think we’d more like to resemble the Lakers." - Mikhail Prokhorov
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Curry can put up 21 and 7, Murphy can’t. Boom.
The Token Black-Jew
by NBRITM on Feb 18, 2011 12:17 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
No, he was headed to Minny
send him to Minny/ or Kings.
Minny never agreed to that deal.
ESPN failed to mention that detail.
Knicks couldn’t even get 1 first round pick easily.
dwon to the deadline
because deal wont materialize or melo wll be the tool he has been and take the paycut or stay in denver
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by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Feb 18, 2011 1:11 AM EST up reply actions
Net Income
What makes your sources say that? And when could it be announced? And also: What are your thoughts on this? Hasn’t this gotten a bit ridiculous.
Is this deal worse than the last?
by Ccrules2791 on Feb 18, 2011 12:21 AM EST up reply actions
Chris Broussard does not count
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by The Last Shall Become First on Feb 18, 2011 12:23 AM EST up reply actions
It's done
Melo will be a Net. I’m just interested to see if we are acquiring any players from the third team.
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And what if Melo declines an extension?
Partially functional, half of me is comfortable, the other half is close to the Cliff, like Mrs. Huxtable
by King Henry the 2nd on Feb 18, 2011 12:27 AM EST up reply actions
That means Carmelo wants to be a Knick
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by The Last Shall Become First on Feb 18, 2011 12:30 AM EST up reply actions
He's not declining the extension
Doesn’t matter what team he goes to. He’s signing it.
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Melo wants the money
But he wants to win. Why nt just resign with Denver
Partially functional, half of me is comfortable, the other half is close to the Cliff, like Mrs. Huxtable
by King Henry the 2nd on Feb 18, 2011 12:36 AM EST up reply actions
Because Denver is in turmoil
All signs HEAVILY indicate that Kroenke is selling the team. There is zero stability there, and it’s obvious that the Nuggets don’t even want to take on a single cent of luxury tax.
Things are coming to closure in Denver, and Melo has read the tea leaves.
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and what are the nets the last couple of years
the land of promise and prosperity? we assume he’s gonna sign it. what if he decides to put his ego first be the bad guy and do whatever he can to get to new york? i wont believe anything until he says it and puts the pen to paper the day he gets traded
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by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Feb 18, 2011 1:13 AM EST up reply actions
every player loves to win as much as they love to get paid...
but when one’s on the table staring you in the face and the other is ALWAYS a maybe at best, you take the sure thing.
"It's like a finger pointing at the moon. Do not focus on the finger, or you will miss all the heavenly glory beyond." - Bruce Lee
utah maybe?
coaching change, possible culture change. they may be looking to start fresh after this season
"It's like a finger pointing at the moon. Do not focus on the finger, or you will miss all the heavenly glory beyond." - Bruce Lee
A reiteration of the first deal?
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=49bhffh
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it sucks cause while i sit here debating the possibility of these different scenarios...
an entirely different discussion is going on about whether or not this whole deal is even going to be worth it…. IF we pull it off. if the deal starts to resemble the original deal with utah then i don’t think the deal is worth it, nor were the last several months of on and off court turmoil
"It's like a finger pointing at the moon. Do not focus on the finger, or you will miss all the heavenly glory beyond." - Bruce Lee
The current deal as reported
Is a very good deal for the Nets in my opinion, other than the ’11 pick. I wish we could find a way to keep that…
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Wash at PG
No change at SG
Major upgrade at SF
Downgrade at PF
No change at C
Downgrade in assets. It’s not that great.
"I don’t think we want to be like the Knicks. I think we’d more like to resemble the Lakers." - Mikhail Prokhorov
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i am just as anxious to hear about some other deals that go down in the next week
because it may give us some clues as to which teams are actively moving contracts or freeing up cap room
"It's like a finger pointing at the moon. Do not focus on the finger, or you will miss all the heavenly glory beyond." - Bruce Lee
It's done?
How many time have we heard that before?
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by The Last Shall Become First on Feb 18, 2011 12:28 AM EST up reply actions
We need to let the team know that we’re okay with a 12 win season but our fandom ENDS if Graham is gone.
by mikegrand15 on Feb 18, 2011 12:24 AM EST up reply actions
Don't fall
But do stand up and cheer where Marco G (sigh…) announces the starting SF “CARMELOOOO ANTHONNYYYYY”
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i cant believe he still has a job
It doesnt get worse than him.
by fioravantim on Feb 18, 2011 12:28 AM EST up reply actions
we need to hire
the “I’m TASHA VUJACIC!!!!” kid
"It's like a finger pointing at the moon. Do not focus on the finger, or you will miss all the heavenly glory beyond." - Bruce Lee
That kid is awesome.
"I don’t think we want to be like the Knicks. I think we’d more like to resemble the Lakers." - Mikhail Prokhorov
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one of my boy's friend
dont really like him as an announcer thou….
by blazin pp face on Feb 18, 2011 12:36 AM EST up reply actions
I bought tickets earlier this week
Actually the Nets were doing a great charity ticket sale, so I bought 2.
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probably all those millions of crazy net fans
by blazin pp face on Feb 18, 2011 12:37 AM EST up reply actions
Millions?
"I don’t think we want to be like the Knicks. I think we’d more like to resemble the Lakers." - Mikhail Prokhorov
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havent gone to a nets game all season…this one might not be bad. considering its after the deadline…
NoMelo Era Record: 7-9
what the nets season? yeah its done
go watch the nets because you are a fan. melo or no melo if i was still in jersey i’d still go watch.
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by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Feb 18, 2011 1:16 AM EST up reply actions
Yeah. We're not getting anything for Murphy.
In proposed Nuggets-Nets deal, Denver would move Troy Murphy onto a third team with 1 or 2 of Nets four picks as sweetener, sources tell Y!
"I don’t think we want to be like the Knicks. I think we’d more like to resemble the Lakers." - Mikhail Prokhorov
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from Woj
"I don’t think we want to be like the Knicks. I think we’d more like to resemble the Lakers." - Mikhail Prokhorov
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why not do murphy and sasha for landry and garcia
screw denver nets need to make their own power moves.
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by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Feb 18, 2011 1:17 AM EST up reply actions
The only thing that indicates
Is that the Melo to Nets deal is done before the trade deadline.
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If Denver is the one moving Murphy, Nets are not getting compensation for him.
"I don’t think we want to be like the Knicks. I think we’d more like to resemble the Lakers." - Mikhail Prokhorov
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Good then its a win win
maybe the knicks give up the farm…..maybe the nets get melo…
by blazin pp face on Feb 18, 2011 12:40 AM EST up reply actions
For some reason I just picture it like this:
King calls up Ujiri: “Okay so what we were thinking was —”
Ujiri cuts him off: “Yeah, don’t care. So what pick do you want to use to move Murphy to a third team?”
King: “Actually I was thinking that you guys could —”
Ujiri: “So the Rockets’ pick then?”
King: “Well as I said, I don’t think —”
Ujiri: “Yeah, I’m probably gonna ask that you throw in Morrow just as compensation for my suggestion of moving Murphy to a third team along with a pick”
King: “Okay, so then you’ll only be getting three picks and we’ll be moving the fourth to —”
Ujiri: “No, you’re giving us four. The fifth is going to a third team.”
King: “Well what if we were to throw in Damion James, he’s a good defender and he can —”
Ujiri: “Nah, he’s already coming back to us. You have any other players I might be interested in?”
King: “Uh, we’ll get back to —”
Ujiri: Click.
The Token Black-Jew
by NBRITM on Feb 18, 2011 12:43 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Thanks King...
"I don’t think we want to be like the Knicks. I think we’d more like to resemble the Lakers." - Mikhail Prokhorov
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thats exactly how i feel a conversaton would be transcribed
king and proky getting played like some fools
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by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Feb 18, 2011 1:19 AM EST up reply actions
I don't even like basketball that much
Can somebody please tell me why I’m here?
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by The Last Shall Become First on Feb 18, 2011 12:40 AM EST reply actions
We'd all like to know the same thing.
"I don’t think we want to be like the Knicks. I think we’d more like to resemble the Lakers." - Mikhail Prokhorov
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by Maxyboy on Feb 18, 2011 12:40 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Knicks fans are always confused. Its ok
NoMelo Era Record: 7-9
by Andy. on Feb 18, 2011 12:41 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
How do you know I'm a Knicks fan
Never said those words
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by The Last Shall Become First on Feb 18, 2011 12:43 AM EST up reply actions
It’s just the fact that they share MSG with my Rangers that I kind of support them. I really could care less about basketball, but these Melo rumors keep pulling me in
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by The Last Shall Become First on Feb 18, 2011 12:47 AM EST up reply actions
You might as well be one
You aren’t a basketball fan.
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by eLonepb on Feb 18, 2011 12:44 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
your post betrayed you
Melo can team up with the most dominent force in the NBA in Amar’e Stoudemire and possibly one of the NBA’s fastest rising stars in Raymond Felton and actually contend for an NBA championship, or he can join the Nets, not even come close to an NBA title and possibly not even make the playoffs. You people, don’t understand the days of the Knicks being the laughing stock of the league are over, they are indeed back. Now if Melo was added to the Kidd-Carter-Jefferson Nets, then yes, the Nets would have had a championship, but the current Nets are one sorry ass team and will remain that way for a long time. Sure you could live in the past and bring up the Nets 2002 and 2003 seasons and the Knicks decade of decadence, but that’s the past. We’re not dwelling in the past we are moving forward and are one piece away from becoming Sports next great dynasty
"It's like a finger pointing at the moon. Do not focus on the finger, or you will miss all the heavenly glory beyond." - Bruce Lee
Well I have a basic knowledge
I just want to see the City of New York happy, thats all
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by The Last Shall Become First on Feb 18, 2011 12:48 AM EST up reply actions
Yeah
But MSG would be poppin even more, plus I think Melo looks good in blue and orange
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by The Last Shall Become First on Feb 18, 2011 12:52 AM EST up reply actions
So now it's a color preference
And you like the way the colors Blue and Orange go together….
Well, I’m done here.
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if new yorkers love carmelo
then they won’t mind the short train ride to go and see him 41 times a year… even more when they play the knicks “away”
"It's like a finger pointing at the moon. Do not focus on the finger, or you will miss all the heavenly glory beyond." - Bruce Lee
Well I've contributed here much more then I have at Posting and Toasting
And everything has been about Melo so I’m surprised you couldn’t tell.
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by The Last Shall Become First on Feb 18, 2011 12:59 AM EST up reply actions
because we def have more important stuff
yet we always find ourselves back here
by blazin pp face on Feb 18, 2011 12:41 AM EST up reply actions
RT @RJ_uptown: If Melo’s not signing, discussions mean nothing (BUT UNTIL MELO’S A KNICK OR BAD MEETING, PROKHOROV WON’T BELIEVE NETS OUT)
From Stein
From Woj:
For ‘Melo to get trade to NY and $65M now, he needs to leverage Knicks to meet Denver’s demands. From somewhere, he wants that extension
"I don’t think we want to be like the Knicks. I think we’d more like to resemble the Lakers." - Mikhail Prokhorov
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wow we look so desperate its embarrasing, 4 first round picks for a guy that
clearly prefers to play for the knicks.
I don't understand some posters
I am glad our front office is attempting to improve the team. I don’t care if Denver might be engaging talks just to get the knicks to improve there deal. So what? That is good too, knicks would give up more. Even if we miss out on Melo I don’t care that we got shut down 2-3 times, it is better than not trying at all, just sayin’.
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by lemmetakeutodamovies on Feb 18, 2011 12:43 AM EST reply actions
Yeahhhh
"I don’t think we want to be like the Knicks. I think we’d more like to resemble the Lakers." - Mikhail Prokhorov
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by Maxyboy on Feb 18, 2011 12:57 AM EST up reply actions 4 recs
Wow you are pretty good
"You can spend minutes, hours, days weeks or even months overanalyzing a situation; trying to put the pieces together, justifying what would’ve, could’ve happened – or you can just leave the pieces on the floor and move the **** on."
-Tupac Amaru Shakur
by NetsMets4Life on Feb 18, 2011 7:06 AM EST up reply actions
I'd imagine that it would be some type of explosive
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by The Last Shall Become First on Feb 18, 2011 12:49 AM EST up reply actions
lets jus say Proky has some interesting friends
in high places
by blazin pp face on Feb 18, 2011 12:50 AM EST up reply actions
"Nah nah girl...
… not THAT kind of extension"
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by Chakroot on Feb 18, 2011 12:50 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
If i try for a custom Anthony 15 jersey on nba store or modells
it doesn’t let me but adds anything else
Stern hates you
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by eLonepb on Feb 18, 2011 12:55 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
its a conspiracy!
call mel gibson, tom hanks, harrison ford, matt damon and george clooney to figure it out
"It's like a finger pointing at the moon. Do not focus on the finger, or you will miss all the heavenly glory beyond." - Bruce Lee
Marc Stein summary article is out.
http://proxy.espn.go.com/new-york/nba/news/story?id=6133683
He says that moving of Murphy could be a separate deal.
I hope so. I’m tired of BKing doing all the dirty work.
Is it possible to trade Murphy to Nuggets and then move him in couple of days later?
The only teams I am aware of who could absorb Murphy's salary (since Nuggets wouldn't want to take back another expiring..
are Cleveland, Toronto and Minny? Are there any other teams?
Sac
I am VERY against Lebron, completely ignoring the stats. He ruins teams, despite what his great stats say. I dont care what anyone says, he ruins teams. - anonymous nets fan
by lemmetakeutodamovies on Feb 18, 2011 12:59 AM EST up reply actions
but they don't want to take on any salary unless they are getting a legit player
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by lemmetakeutodamovies on Feb 18, 2011 12:59 AM EST up reply actions
Minny always does stupid things like loading up on PGs or loading up on picks.
If it was Minny, they would be in conflict with suggested deal with Knicks for Randolph!!!!
Minny could help kill the Knicks deal at the same time.
never under-estimate a team's ability
to shoot itself in the foot
"It's like a finger pointing at the moon. Do not focus on the finger, or you will miss all the heavenly glory beyond." - Bruce Lee
I am confident that Proky will bring
this guy to seal the deal…
by blazin pp face on Feb 18, 2011 12:56 AM EST reply actions
For some reason I thought it was going to be William Shatner
by infam0us on Feb 18, 2011 1:00 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
we need "The Big Deal"
"It's like a finger pointing at the moon. Do not focus on the finger, or you will miss all the heavenly glory beyond." - Bruce Lee
If the Knicks find a way to sign Spree
The Nets can have Melo
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by The Last Shall Become First on Feb 18, 2011 12:56 AM EST reply actions
Spree?
Do you mean CP3?
You really don’t follow basketball. Lol.
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Sprewell maybe haha
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by lemmetakeutodamovies on Feb 18, 2011 1:00 AM EST up reply actions
I believe his name was Sprewell
He played for the Knicks like 10 years ago
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by The Last Shall Become First on Feb 18, 2011 1:00 AM EST up reply actions
. . .
What — I mean why — or did — but — nevermind.
The Token Black-Jew
by NBRITM on Feb 18, 2011 1:02 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Because he recognizes
That we have a good thing going here
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by The Last Shall Become First on Feb 18, 2011 1:11 AM EST up reply actions
We passed 1000 posts, like the old days of 1 month ago.
Tomorrow is the 1 month anniversary of Proky’s announcement.
didn't houston get some type of injury exception
so yao ming’s salary isn’t counting against their cap room?
"It's like a finger pointing at the moon. Do not focus on the finger, or you will miss all the heavenly glory beyond." - Bruce Lee
they had several weeks to sign someone else who wouldnt count against the cap
and then yao salary goes back on the cap
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by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Feb 18, 2011 1:23 AM EST up reply actions
Do the trade.
This is a good trade. Yes we are losin four draft pick but the r no stars like a melo in this draft. DO IT KING.
Do you know this lady?
"I don’t think we want to be like the Knicks. I think we’d more like to resemble the Lakers." - Mikhail Prokhorov
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by Maxyboy on Feb 18, 2011 1:02 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
No point in tweeting Melo now that he is probably drunk somewhere in LA right now.
by jerry25 on Feb 18, 2011 1:00 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
well he is a married boy now..... unlike his buddies
by blazin pp face on Feb 18, 2011 1:02 AM EST up reply actions
and married men don't drink....
"It's like a finger pointing at the moon. Do not focus on the finger, or you will miss all the heavenly glory beyond." - Bruce Lee
Kim's tape with Ray J
An truely amazing film on par with the Godfather.
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by The Last Shall Become First on Feb 18, 2011 1:10 AM EST up reply actions
Do people realize that Melo had 38 pts (16 for 30) and 12 boards in his final Nuggets game yesterday?
And think about how many open 3s that Morrow would get with Melo and Billups.
Is Ely injured. He wasn’t listed in Box score for yesterday, and Shelden Williams didn’t play.
Nuggets roster is Loaded.
16 for 30 what a chucker
did you also notice how the worst offense was able to hang round til the final minutes and maggette and salmons went off
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by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Feb 18, 2011 1:25 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Kevin Durant averages more shot attempts per game
What a chucker….
by Anthony Perez on Feb 18, 2011 1:48 PM EST up reply actions
HA! Nuggets only get Favors, Harris, Uzoh and only 4 1st rd picks including the most valuable ones!
We sure showed the Nuggets who’s boss!
1 week from now everybody can relax
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by lemmetakeutodamovies on Feb 18, 2011 1:29 AM EST reply actions
hey netincome, netsdaily, etc
can we get a preview of the rookie vs sophomore game since our boy d-faves gonna be balling tomorrow night
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by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Feb 18, 2011 1:38 AM EST reply actions
Kerber's got it: Proky + Jay-Z
In a private suite at Staples rented by Melo.
http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/nets/nets_rushing_to_meet_with_melo_eBINNOLKZCunWFtuQdQorO
Done!!
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“Prokhorov has rented a private suite at the Staples Center for All-Star weekend”
"This isn’t fantasy or rotisserie basketball. Why would Denver want Outlaw? Would you?"
by strange-brew on Feb 18, 2011 2:14 AM EST up reply actions
And Isola has an article that says Dolan will meet with Melo also
It’s the final countdown…
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Would like to see the dolan meeting
Bet he’ll play one of his songs to melo and his associates.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YIiM91tc1fk
LeBron + Wade + Bosh are still the team that no one can vibrate...
so even we get Melo, that’s not a big difference.
Cavs are a possible destination for Murph
That’s where the Cavaliers come in. The Nuggets have no desire to take on Troy Murphy’s $12 million expiring contract. They want a 3rd team to get involved. Enter Cleveland, and that sweet $14 million trade exception. For their time, trouble and money, the Cavaliers would likely receive Murphy and one of the four Nets draft picks. Not a bad haul for a team looking to acquire as many future assets as possible.
Read here: http://cleveland.sbnation.com/cleveland-cavaliers/2011/2/17/2000546/nba-trade-rumors-carmelo-anthony-nets-nuggets-cavs
And the plot thickens
"This isn’t fantasy or rotisserie basketball. Why would Denver want Outlaw? Would you?"
by strange-brew on Feb 18, 2011 3:14 AM EST up reply actions
Hershel Walker
“The Nets would send rookie Derrick Favors, point guard Devin Harris, forward Troy Murphy with his expiring $11.9 million contract and rookie guard Ben Uzoh plus four first-round draft picks to the Nuggets for Anthony, point guard Chauncey Billups, forwards Renaldo Balkman and Shelden Williams, and center Melvin Ely.”
Really! Is this a joke! Just stick with the Portland deal, get Andre Miller and ship out Outlaw. What leverage did we get by holding out the last month! I’m all for Melo, but let’s hope this isn’t the final deal.
Well if any of this was true the nets are the big joke so far of 2011.
Not going to get worked up about this. Since we all know where these articles have lead before. I’ll wait till anything is announced to react.
Official Member of the "DO NOT TRADE DERRICK FAVORS" Movement
I don't get it
Proky said it was a bad deal for his team.
So now they offer the same thing, except keeping Petro and not trading Morrow? What the?
Shouldn’t the Knicks offer made his value go down?
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