Nets Get Spanked By Spurs
by NetsDaily on Feb 14, 2011 9:36 PM EST
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PrintIn case the Nets needed another reminder where they stand in the NBA hierarchy, the Spurs provided it at the Prudential Center on Monday, holding New Jersey to 35 percent shooting in an easy 102-85 victory.
The Nets shot 32 percent in the first quarter, but still managed to build a five-point lead early in the second. The lead didn't last long though, as San Antonio went on a 21-5 run and took an 11-point lead into halftime. The Nets were still within six late in the third quarter, but the Spurs put them away with a quick and deadly 13-0 run over four minutes spanning the third and fourth.
San Antonio had six players in double figures, led by Manu Ginobili's 22. Tim Duncan and DeJuan Blair had double-doubles.
The only Nets to make at least half their shots from the field were Stephen Graham (3-for-5), Quinton Ross (2-for-3) and Ben Uzoh (2-for-3). Brook Lopez and Travis Outlaw led them with 11 points apiece, Lopez recording his second double-double in the last three games.
- Boxscore - NBA.com
- Game Highlights (Video) - NBA.com
- Ginobili scores 22 as NBA-best Spurs roll - Tom Canavan - AP
- Nets-Spurs Notebook - Jake Appleman - NBA.com
- Greg Popovich's Spurs are in the midst of a strange, special season - Dave D'Alessandro - Star-Ledger
- Nets lose battle inside to Spurs in 102-85 loss - Conor Orr - Star-Ledger
- Spurs kill Nets with constant momentum stoppers - Conor Orr - Star-Ledger
- Nets can't hang with Spurs vets - Fred Kerber - New York Post
- Jefferson: Winning is best bridge to Brooklyn - New York Post
- Admiring the Spurs' Pop Art - Filip Bondy - New York Daily News
- Spurs coast past Nets in Newark, 102-85, behind Ginobili's 22 points - Stefan Bondy - New York Daily News
- Jefferson helped build up the Nets, says it hurts to see the franchise struggle - Stefan Bondy - The InterNets
- Rapid Reaction: Spurs 102, Nets 85 - Mike Mazzeo - ESPN New York
- Shooting woes continue to plague Nets - Mike Mazzeo - ESPN New York
- Nets schooled by Spurs, 102-85, at The Rock - Al Iannazzone - The Record
- Nets notes: N.Y. state of mind at Prudential Center - Al Iannazzone - The Record
- Nets prove no match for the Spurs - Al Iannazzone - The Nets Insider
- Billy King on the Sasha Vujacic trade (Video) - Jessica Taff - YES Network
- Post-Game Plus (Video) - Chris Shearn - YES Network
- From the booth (Video) - Ian Eagle & Mike Fratello - YES Network
- Avery Johnson Press Conference (Video) - YES Network
- Brook Lopez Interview (Video) - Jessica Taff - YES Network
- Spurs show their worth in win over Nets (with Post-game Video) - Greg Hrinya - Examiner
- NETS Can't Quite Come Back on Spurs - Ben Couch - New Jersey Nets
- Ginobili leads Spurs in romp over Nets - Agence France Presse
- Notes on a scorecard: Another night, another resolute victory - Tim Griffin - San Antonio Express-News
- Five quick thoughts: A well-rested Manu isn’t slumping any more - Jeff MacDonald - San Antonio Express-News
- Ginobili back in starting lineup - Jeff MacDonald - San Antonio Express-News
- Jersey snore: Spurs roll after half - Jeff MacDonald - San Antonio Express-News
- Game #55 Recap - Big Three power Spurs to easy win over the Nets, 102-85 - Gray Berger - Pounding the Rock
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hoping…. so atleast at the end of season.. it would have been nice to say we beat the Number 1 team.. upset just like college ball.
by kupalski on Feb 14, 2011 9:42 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
they already beat them last year
that win is still fresh in my head and apparently it was fresh in the spurs head as well
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by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Feb 14, 2011 9:43 PM EST up reply actions
im glad king got to see this the past few days
Lopez is not the guy, it has shown he needs a scoring wing.
There will be a trade and I expect King to make a trade for a SF next week.
Favors looks terrible and Avery made an awful coaching move keeping a player with 3 fouls in a game. Who does that?
For 2nd straight game a ton of fans from the other team were at the game.
Team needs to get some players in if they want to make money in Brooklyn.
Hey Sasha
We could have used your 30 points tonight
…Had to do it.
by smp369 on Feb 14, 2011 9:39 PM EST via mobile reply actions 2 recs
i really dont care because lopez did the best he could
duncan and pop had a gameplan to exploit his weaknesses. double him and force him to pass and duncan locked him up all night. ginobili and parker what was new use that speed on the lackluster perimeter defense. if the lineup has any change for the c’s game i may watch but the c’s banged up with the backups could still handle the nets starters
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by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Feb 14, 2011 9:42 PM EST reply actions
Outlaw with another really great shooting night
#WorstSigningof2010
by NetsKiNG on Feb 14, 2011 9:42 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
can someone get a gif of that missed dunk
i dont care about that soft two hander he put in. he blew by bonner only to show why he is outlol
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by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Feb 14, 2011 9:45 PM EST up reply actions
Sorry this is way off topic, but I have to know.
Is your username “Justin NJ” as in you are named Justin and you live in NJ or is it “Just In NJ” as in you are only in NJ?
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Devin Harris is a Disease (Installment #872)
At one point during the game, Farmar rips an outlet pass to Petro for a jam.
A Play Later, Farmar hits a 3.
In both cases they ENTIRE Bench gets excited with firm applause.
One guy, ONE GUY not clapping. Guess who?
For the millionth time, watch him: on the bench, on defense, the way he ‘runs’ the offense.
It doesn’t take much scrutiny to realize he should be tops (yes, even over Outlaw) on the list of guys that need to be traded OUT of here.
by Jron on Feb 14, 2011 9:45 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
could it be he checked out like half the team
really everyone had a sub-par night except farmar, petro and uzoh and graham; the latter two racking up stats in garbage time
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by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Feb 14, 2011 9:49 PM EST up reply actions
sounds like an average petro night to me
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by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Feb 14, 2011 10:53 PM EST up reply actions
that's ludicrous
he has been our BEST PLAYER this year.
He has taken over multiple games. Who else has?
Nets fans were spoiled by J-Kidd and hate on Devo for being less than legendary. Haters gonna hate. Spread the Harris Love!
by Paul G B on Feb 14, 2011 10:43 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
People hate on Devin
Because he isn’t a savior. He is really good, but not good enough to take us there alone. People constantly rag on Devin, I believe, because they expect too much from him. Same with Brook.
Be realistic about what you can really expect from the man, and look at what he is doing, and what he is doing it with, and you realize Devin is a really solid performer.
D-Fav = My fave
by OneCGuy on Feb 15, 2011 7:39 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
this is a total joke
stop ragging on our best player, who is also great character guy.
28 (26) Nets 17-38 Saturday night marked the first time in NBA history that road teams went 8-for-8 in a single day. Yet I assure you no home team was more bummed than the Nets, who couldn’t take down the Amare-less Knicks.
that was avery's fault
should have pounded the ball inside all game and played 3-2 zone to keep the knicks off the perimeter. avery blew that himself
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by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Feb 14, 2011 9:50 PM EST up reply actions
Favors and Hump aren't good enough on the block to take advantage of Chandler consistently
And he can consistently take advantage of them on the perimeter on other end. It was clearly a poor matchup for us going in.
"This isn’t fantasy or rotisserie basketball. Why would Denver want Outlaw? Would you?"
by strange-brew on Feb 14, 2011 11:36 PM EST up reply actions
outlaw looks so bad when driving the lane. Almost uncomfortablewhen he get close to the rim
He needs to spend the summer driving to basket and finishing strong.
Morrow needs to work on his dribble game too
morrow was awful tonight as well
farmar was only decent one tonight
The team should trade one of Sasha, Morrow, Farmar or Outlaw
The team lacks players that can handle being pressed. Sasha’s the best and he’ll be a free agent.
Tomofey Mozgoz about getting dunked on by Blake Griffin "I didn't like it"
I don't know what we can expect to get for Sasha though.
A 1st round pick?
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When? I thought that was Hump.
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I think he also said that for Sasha.
But Sasha doesn’t like the cold New Jersey weather.
He needs to warmth of Maria.
You heard it here first
Sasha is most likely taking his talents to south beach!
Be nice to see him prove his point and just score 30 for 10 games just to say I told ya so and to see what it feels like.
The JETS/NETS are coming!
by MrBDown on Feb 15, 2011 11:16 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Out of the 4 he's the best and he's an expiring. If all we can get is a pick might as well keep and try to bring him back.
Tomofey Mozgoz about getting dunked on by Blake Griffin "I didn't like it"
You say that as if you're the gm
Tomofey Mozgoz about getting dunked on by Blake Griffin "I didn't like it"
They're underachieving
All spot up shooters none of them slash or create for one another.
Tomofey Mozgoz about getting dunked on by Blake Griffin "I didn't like it"
Like I said they do the same thing. None of them slash to complement eachother's skills.
Who he trades them for is anyone’s guess.
Tomofey Mozgoz about getting dunked on by Blake Griffin "I didn't like it"
He could get better if better talents is around him less pressure for him to do more than he's capable of
He’s the type that needs a playmaker to set him up.
Tomofey Mozgoz about getting dunked on by Blake Griffin "I didn't like it"
i want to see this
harris for miller + batum: get some more all stars on blazers
Troy Murphy for a scoring wing
I actually thought this would’ve been a decent deal for the Nets, but then factor in the length of his contract plus his age, and he really isn’t worth it.
by JerseysFinest. on Feb 14, 2011 10:35 PM EST up reply actions
Agreed.
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Yep.
"I don’t think we want to be like the Knicks. I think we’d more like to resemble the Lakers." - Mikhail Prokhorov
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12 mil annual cap hit until the 2012-2013 season with a 9 mil buyout the final season
and he’s 33 already. new jersey isnt the place for him
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by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Feb 14, 2011 10:54 PM EST up reply actions
Blazers wont give up batum as much as i want that deal. They value him highly and they wont trade him unless it involves a star player or someone that will immensely improve the team.
they have so many wing players, they could give one up
Batum,Fernandez,Matthews, Roy
by DJ HeavyDuty on Feb 14, 2011 9:57 PM EST up reply actions
excpet roy is always hurt
and rudy is bi-polar. if they are gonna trade anyone it would be miller and camby first and try and build around roy, aldridge, and oden again
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by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Feb 14, 2011 10:56 PM EST up reply actions
Rudy and Portland were in that huge mess before the season started
I highly doubt he resigns with them. He either wants to go to a bigger market with more playing time or go back to Spain. The extent of Roy’s injury is unknown so their wing players going forward are going to be Batum and Matthews.
WOuld love that
Heck, If the season’s already done, I’d be fine with Farmar and Uzoh running the point for now.
If they draft a point guard in the draft (Nolan Smith) I'm down with trading Devin.
As long as they trade him for someone productive.
Tomofey Mozgoz about getting dunked on by Blake Griffin "I didn't like it"
true but he's a senior from a great program
There’s very few pass first point guards coming up.
Tomofey Mozgoz about getting dunked on by Blake Griffin "I didn't like it"
those trades have no chance of happening
porltand is in love with batum
Add a pick
"We're not there yet, but we're going somewhere," Johnson said. "And we're going to Brooklyn. We're not going to contract. We're going to Brooklyn."
So now we've taken to insulting players based on what they enjoy?
So what if he has a bobblehead?
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Favors
21 games started… he can’t get a pass because he’s young! At least be consistent rebound and points not just on fouls…
by kupalski on Feb 14, 2011 9:52 PM EST via mobile reply actions 1 recs
he is consistent with boards
he doesnt get plays for him and has to scrape for his points. also the lack of court vision the rest of the team has take away points. plus since lopez is a terrible defender he has to guard the more potent post scorer.
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by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Feb 14, 2011 9:55 PM EST up reply actions
Does Humpries have plays set for him?
by kupalski on Feb 14, 2011 9:59 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Took the Hump how many NBA years to figure out how to do this?
So I think we should spot the rook some more time.
The JETS/NETS are coming!
by MrBDown on Feb 15, 2011 11:20 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Growing pain, this season is just a training season for him.
We can expect him more from the second season.
The thing is it seams that he’s not “growing”!! 21 starts at least give me 1 or 2 20 -10 night. A little glimpse of his “potential”
by kupalski on Feb 14, 2011 10:05 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
if the stud center cant do that
what makes you think the rookie who is gettin paired up on the tougher matchup of the big man can do any better? i guess you want him female doggin after every call gettin t’d up yellin at the coaches getting kicked out of practice fighting his teammates getting suspended and fined calling out the the rest of the team too?
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by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Feb 14, 2011 10:59 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Not everyone's comparing Favors to Cousins
Monroe has put up a slew of steady games since 2011.
20/11/2 with 2 blocks against us.
15/17/2 with 2 steals against the Knicks.
16/13 with 3 steals against Philly.
16/9/1 with 4 steals against Dallas.
13/9/1 with 1 steal against the C’s.
14/11/1 with 2 steals against the Lakers.
Heck, even 14/13/2 against the same team we played tonight, the Spurs.
I still have faith in Favors. I believe he will be a solid big for years to come. Meanwhile, the Cousins references are meaningless.
I don't care this game is a loss or win
At least Lopez gets his double-double.
It’s rarer to see Lopez got dd than a win from the Nets.
Wins and loses don’t matter anymore.
But you wouldve hoped nets learned they’re lesson and tried to defend the three.
Uzoh, Grah and Petro looked good. Time to insert them bak in the rotation.
NoMelo Era Record: 7-7
by Andy. on Feb 14, 2011 10:02 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
We can expect a good draft pick this season.
Maybe Either of Terrence Jones, Perry Jones, Kyrie Irving will suit up for Nets next season…
petro was Horrible...
Being at the game, mostt disappointed in Harris. Parker ran by him all night and dev had no fight in him.
Other awful games by petro, favors, outlol
Keepers going forward morrow, sasha, hump, brook, farmar, james
by LBJOSH on Feb 14, 2011 10:50 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Here's hoping.
I just want to see some development.
Brook is looking like he can get back to averaging a significant amount of rebounds.
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Nets get spanked on valentines day.
NoMelo Era Record: 7-7
by Andy. on Feb 14, 2011 9:59 PM EST via mobile reply actions
For the second straight time, by the team with the best record in the league (Pistons in 2006).
Fire Johnson and hire Brown - I'm telling you Thorn was smoking somethin' when he let Brown slip away in the night.
by diehardNFFLbarnone on Feb 14, 2011 10:08 PM EST up reply actions
Actually for the third straight time, twice by the team with the best record in the league (Pistons in 2006).
Fire Johnson and hire Brown - I'm telling you Thorn was smoking somethin' when he let Brown slip away in the night.
by diehardNFFLbarnone on Feb 14, 2011 10:11 PM EST up reply actions
Avery needs to run more plays for the low post
Double screens down low, high low post passes, stop clearing out shooters, and try more than 1 time to get a post shot before chuckin up a 3
Favors
First of all, I have been a staunch supporter of Derrick, so I’m no knee-jerk reaction guy towards Derrick. Having said that, tonight was the first night that a sensation of …fear… I guess I’ll call, occurred to me. Avery gave him every chance in the world to play through his troubles and figure it out. But he didn’t respond well. Tonight he looked as if he would be content to be a 10th man in a 9-man rotation. Even in garbage time, he was going through the motions.
I know he needs to get stronger. He picks up those fouls on screens because he sees a defender charging at him to get through the screen, and he flinches. That flinch resulting from fear of being physically run over by the defender causes Derrick to move and pick up the offensive foul. Those kinds of fouls should be eliminated naturally by the start of next season after an off-season of weight training. Moreover, I am going to give Derrick until game 20 of next season before passing judgment. But tonight, I really can’t get on any fan for calling Derrick out. He looked frighteningly apathetic tonight. And that’s really what has me a little spooked right now. He didn’t build on the Knicks game and didn’t look as if that bothered him. I don’t know. I’ll give him more time, but I’m officially “concerned.”
The most overlooked disappointing aspect of the 2010-2011 Nets has been the poor big man coaching. Popeye Jones, Krystowiak, and Mitchell, et. al. have — for whatever reason — let/caused Brook to regress, Derrick to plateau early, Petro…well, maybe Johan is who he is. To be fair, Kris has done well this year.
It’s just that the apathy tonight was pretty alarming. I hope Derrick has simply hit the rookie wall. I’m going to try to be a good fan and “give him more time” but a red flag was raised tonight, because he doesn’t seem to be building..more like floating not just in games but from game to game as well.
Stay tuned.
Nets = Global
Knicks = Local
favors is human foul machine right now at this point
sooner or later he is going to learn
I hope he will learn
Avery game him ample opportunity tonight to play through his foul difficulties and learn how not to foul but he didn’t seem to be learning. That’s what’s got me spooked. It was Avery’s fault tonight. I can only point the finger at Derrick tonight.
Nets = Global
Knicks = Local
Like I said earlier
Step #1 for Favors is to learn to stay out of foul trouble. That completely takes out all flow of his game and screws his brain, since he starts thinking too much instead of reacting. It’s always easy to come out of closet when player is doing great and proclaim that you always believed in him. Here we go, probably the lowest point for our rookie and I say Favors will be fine!
by Belarus4life on Feb 14, 2011 10:46 PM EST up reply actions
I have always said this:
Proky, open up the wallet and bring in Hakeem the Dream this summer for our bigs to learn from! He is the all world center to absorb information from. Get Brook, Favors, Humphries and throw in Petro while we are at it and get them on the court with that Hall of Famer! He knew how to rebound, post up, hit fade away jumpers, bank it off the glass, maximize his footwork, dribble and penetrate to the basket, hit the 15- 18 ft shot, PLAY DEFENSE, pass the ball out of double teams, etc. etc. Just do it! I am sure for the right price he would gladly show these kids a thing or two!
LETS GO NETS!
Favors is a mediocre player that has gotten to where he is today based on high school hype.
But I’m rooting for him and hope he can impress in the future.
NoMelo Era Record: 7-7
by Andy. on Feb 14, 2011 10:06 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
hopefully he isnt here, he doesnt work well with lopez..but good post
by RandyOreens on Feb 14, 2011 10:06 PM EST up reply actions
id like to see some emotion out of him after picking up a foul being dissapointed or somethong
by RandyOreens on Feb 14, 2011 10:06 PM EST up reply actions
he looked frustrated as he plopped on the bench after picking up the 5th foul
But that’s not good enough. Results were needed by that point. Avery left him in with 3 fouls, but he picked up his fourth before halftime. Then he picked up his fifth in the third period. That was plenty of opportunity to figure it out.
Nets = Global
Knicks = Local
As much as I loved K-Mart's energy and excitement, we kind of got unlucky getting the first pick that year too!
We had to pick between K-Mart, Stromile Swift and Darius Miles? We got the pick right, but, a far cry from a normal impact franchise changing player.
LETS GO NETS!
remember lewis katz pumping his fist at draft lottery
that was one of worst drafts of all time
Meh. There are players in the top 6 that would help us.
T.Jones
Kyrie Irving
Harrison Barnes
Jared Sullinger
Enes Kanter
Perry Jones
"I don’t think we want to be like the Knicks. I think we’d more like to resemble the Lakers." - Mikhail Prokhorov
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Not a big fan or Derrick Williams.
But he right now is an upgrade over any of our wings.
NoMelo Era Record: 7-7
by Andy. on Feb 14, 2011 10:16 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Barnes and T.Jones could both be available.
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Barnes is not coming out in my opinion. And even if he was ill still take t jones over barnes. Barnes still looks a little raw in terms of his play and i dont think hes nba ready yet, if we draft him we might have to do to him what we did to favors again by getting him in slowly, which would not help the team really much.
Yeah
I wont want another 3 yr project when we have favors to take care of in that department. I’ll rather have the more nba ready,bpa player imo in t jones or p jones if we can get him.
But outside of Irving not one is an step in and impact type
The rest are all projects. Not dominating at the college level. Baylor has perry on the post. I thought he would be the guy. But I am not seeing much if any of the wing skills everyone raved about. Just low post catch and shoots. My mind is already in 2012. Austin Rivers
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by MrBDown on Feb 15, 2011 11:31 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Jones and Sullinger are both dominating.
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Well, it's going to take more than a game or two for him to get used to playing with foul trouble.
Tomofey Mozgoz about getting dunked on by Blake Griffin "I didn't like it"
i dnt think people realize that he wasn’t even featured prominently last year at GA Tech. He wasn’t the focal point of their offense, but I remember him being a good defender. I think people are expecting way too much of him, seeing guys like Cousins and Wall making an impact. I truly believe he can be a great power forward, he just needs to understand the little nuances of the game, strengthen up over the summer with Brook, work out with guys like Amar’e and Garnett, watch tapes of guys like Garnett, etc. He will definitely make a lot of mistakes, and is extremely raw out there. I don’t really see need for concern right now. In year 2, if no improvment is made, then theres that sense of concern
by JerseysFinest. on Feb 14, 2011 10:31 PM EST up reply actions
In my opinion Jimmer Fredette
Outlaw = MVP
by NetsAreTheChamps on Feb 14, 2011 10:38 PM EST up reply actions
At the college level, Fredette and Kemba Walker are the best volume scorers, as well as Nolan Smith in my opinion. Whether it’ll translate in the NBA, that’s another question. I’m curious to see how Seth Curry develops, he is a deadly shooter and has started ballin recently.
by smp369 on Feb 14, 2011 10:45 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
didn't watch the game
spent V day with the wife and watched Rushmore.
Figure they would lose.
Houston is going for broke.
Rick talking about retiring after this season. Channel 26 said everyone is available.
Any Rocket players worth getting
"Do you remember when Martin had a dream and Bobby had a regiment"
by killa kadafi191 on Feb 14, 2011 10:18 PM EST reply actions
guess who wants twill back?
anyone here want courtney lee back
The Bulls want Lee.
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no morey is considering sending him somewhere where he is needed(like chicago)
because his offense has not come around and his defense is average at best despite his frame and quickness. they may be trying to move battier first anyway because he no longer serves a prominent purpose on the rockets. he would be much better in golden state or charlotte where he can just play d and not have to try and pick up the scoring slack
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by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Feb 14, 2011 11:07 PM EST up reply actions
Ok. Thanks for the info.
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Battier would do best on a contending western conference team
that needs someone to guard Kobe. OKC?
by sheepareevil on Feb 15, 2011 3:10 PM EST up reply actions
lots
Battier- for expiring, id trade them harris just to clear more cap for summer
kevin martin- obviously
chuck wagon- great big man on defensive end
aaron brooks- guy is a great scorer
jordan hill- can help our front court
yao ming- for expiring
by RandyOreens on Feb 14, 2011 10:20 PM EST up reply actions
Troy Murphy and Morrow for Keven Martin and Battier
Tomofey Mozgoz about getting dunked on by Blake Griffin "I didn't like it"
Killa said any player is available...Murphy for Battier's expiring they can have Favors and Morrow for Kevin Martin
Tomofey Mozgoz about getting dunked on by Blake Griffin "I didn't like it"
i agree
Kevin Martin and his 10 million dollar a year contract makse the nets better but blows the potential to build a true winner.
They have to add talent, if Morrow and Murphy brings back a starting guard and small forward the team would be fooolish to pass up that opportunity.
Tomofey Mozgoz about getting dunked on by Blake Griffin "I didn't like it"
At least Favors is not a problem boy like Cousins
if we have drafted Cousins, don’t be surprised, he would have fought with Lopez for getting the ball.
That's the thing -- the 2010 draft SUCKED!
After Wall (who himself is led his team to an 0-25 road record lol), who exactly looks like a sure thing? Landry Fields, yes — but he’s not going to be a star, just a very solid rotation player on a contender.
Turner — Needs to be in the right situation to be successful
Cousins — Will punch a teammate if he doesn’t get the ball
Monroe — I think he had 4 and 4 tonight (um, that Favors-esque)
Wes Johnson — yeah right
I mean, I guess you have to go all the way down and reach for Bledsoe for someone to single out as noteworthy to an extent. It was a sucky draft in hindsight.
Nets = Global
Knicks = Local
They're 1-25 lol. They beat the Cavs yesterday.
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yeah I mean let's let Wall prove something first before we annoint him
Yeah, he will probably be great, but he hasn’t accomplished anything yet…and the players drafted under him have been even worse!
Nets = Global
Knicks = Local
John Wall is a good passer, but other than that, he will not be a impact like
Rose, Westbrook, James, and Wade.
I think it's too early to say that.
I think he will be at least an All-Star level.
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Yeah, the experts say the 2011 draft is weak, well look at the 2010!
Why couldn’t we have grabbed the third pick in the Lebron draft. lol
LETS GO NETS!
Agreed.
Only 2010 draftees with great potential are Favors, Cousins, Wall and Paul George IMO. Fields is a good player, but not great potential IMO.
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1. Wall
2. Turner
3. Favors
4. Johnson
5. Cousins
6.Udoh
7.Monroe
8.Aminu
1. P.Jones
2. Kyrie
3. Sullinger
4. Kanter
5. T.Jones
6. Barnes
7. Valanciunas
8. D.Williams
NoMelo Era Record: 7-8
2011 looks so much better.
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the draft night trade we made for Jefferson
looks great but everyone forgets one thing. The rockets wanted to swap first rd picks the next year. The Nets said no.
The Rockets had the #1 pick the next season.
at least we didnt get stuck with yao ming and his injuries
kristic was a solid pick until he tore his knee apart. with thorn at the drafting helm he would have probably taken drew gooden or nikoloz tskitishvili with the first pick
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by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Feb 15, 2011 7:56 AM EST up reply actions
and kristic was solid until he tore his knee
like i said with thorn drafting. the first pick would have been more disastrous than the 24th pick
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by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Feb 15, 2011 5:48 PM EST up reply actions
Gotta give it to Cousins though for a rookie he WANTS to be the guy. Take out the crazy part… if only our players has that toughness..
by kupalski on Feb 14, 2011 10:32 PM EST via mobile up reply actions 2 recs
If it wasn't for that crazy part, we might've taken him. IMO.
Or if he was a true PF.
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Cousins wants to prove something. It seams that Favors is content on being mediocre.. Favors needs a fire lit under his a$$.. the thing is Avery I thought would be able to do that.
by kupalski on Feb 14, 2011 10:37 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
If everyone in Houston is available, I’d love to get Martin. Nets were reportedly interested in getting him before. But Rockets would probably want a lot for him, so I doubt we could even get him, but it’s worth a try
by JerseysFinest. on Feb 14, 2011 10:25 PM EST reply actions
he would work well with lopez since he can score, the only problem with him is he isnt known as a winner
by RandyOreens on Feb 14, 2011 10:27 PM EST up reply actions
yeah but honestly, he’s better than any net right now, and he is a competent enough scorer, probably the only one mentioned on the market that could actually make an impact on the outcome of games besides Melo, and we all know how that turned out. I just have a feeling Houston will want at least Favors, and the Nets shouldn’t even open discussions
by JerseysFinest. on Feb 14, 2011 10:33 PM EST up reply actions
NetsDaily just posted on Twitter:
Nets just back from scouting in Europe. Have full time scout in Europe for first time in years. Former Drazen Petrovic teammate
Valanciunas?
Kanter?
Vesely?
Rubio?
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Here's something Avery said before the season.
“I had them put together a video on Kevin Garnett when he was 19, Tim Duncan when he was 19 at Wake Forest and then Favors, some clips of him at Tech and in our Summer League,” says Johnson. "It basically showed Kevin Garnett coming from the weak side and blocking shots and dunking on folks. And then Tim Duncan with a right-handed jump hook, left-handed jump hook, showing him off the dribble, and showing Favors making the same exact moves.
Also:
Johnson marvels aloud about Favors’ willingness to learn, frequently talking up his “coach-ability.” When the first-year coach gave a written test to all his players on defensive schemes, Favors was the only one to get a perfect score.
Also about Favors:
A serious commitment to basketball – and a dream to become an NBA player – was motivated, oddly enough, through a children’s book about Kobe Bryant’s rise to stardom. Favors found it on a street corner on his way to the park.
“I picked it up. I read it, and I just started becoming real serious about basketball,” says Favors, who still has the book in his old home in Southside Atlanta. “It motivated me.”
Television pundits compared him to the greats, a draft-day tradition. But Favors quietly doubted himself that night, a defense mechanism he employs to avoid complacency. As easily as he brushes aside the disclosure of his father’s identity, Favors cast off expectations on the court, easing the pressure.
In high school, Derrick Favors was convinced he was nothing more than a decent player until national rankings made those thoughts impossible. On draft night, he thought he’d be picked fourth or fifth, behind another power forward, Kentucky’s DeMarcus Cousins.
“I didn’t think I was that good,” says Favors. “I thought I had to work harder for something.”
Favors sounds like the type of guy that won’t be satisfied. I’m confident he’ll be working all offseason to get better.
All of this is from http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/basketball/2010/10/16/2010-10-16_nets_rookie_derrick_favors_owes_it_all_to_mom_.html by the way.
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by Maxyboy on Feb 14, 2011 10:53 PM EST reply actions 2 recs
yeah if you watched the nets this season
when it comes to defense in any aspect(1-on-1, help, transition, situational, etc) this is a team full of dummies excpet for favors. people are riding him too hard. he needs to be chewed out some but the rest of this team is more flawed than him
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by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Feb 14, 2011 11:11 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Everyone on our team is flawed, but then again, most players in the NBA are.
Lebron is the closest to perfection IMO, but he still needs to perfect his jumper.
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I said Lebron is the closest.
He plays great D, rebounds well, and is a great ball distributor in addition to having great scoring ability.
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I'd take Lebron, but you really can't go wrong with either.
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Not true.
Lebron, right now, is a better player than Kobe. By more than a small amount.
Well if you like stats it's lebron but if you like winning it's Kobe
And personally speaking don’t we “Play to WIN the games”?
The JETS/NETS are coming!
by MrBDown on Feb 15, 2011 11:44 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
lol @ lebron being close to perfection
0 rings begs to differ
by sheepareevil on Feb 15, 2011 3:35 PM EST up reply actions
robert horry has 7
guess he’s the greatest of all time
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by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Feb 15, 2011 5:49 PM EST up reply actions
If Uzoh had a better jump-shot he would move ahead of Farmar in the rotation.
Hope we keep Uzoh around.
NoMelo Era Record: 7-8
I honestly hope we send him to the D-League.
He needs minutes to develop.
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as a season ticket holder
it’s getting harder and harder to go to the games, even harder to watch on TV and even harder to justify plunking down a couple grand for next season.
I’m seriously thinking of taking the money I would have spent for next year and putting it towards really good seats in BK.
That's probably a really smart investment.
By BK, we might actually be able to do something significant in the Association.
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not to mention
tickets in my section are cheaper than what i paid on stubhub for almost every game. There is no re-sale value. I come all the way from Long Island. It’s a long travel to go watch them lose.
My ticket rep hooks me up a lot though and gets me upgraded seats in the lounges often. Hes great.
the rock is great
but let’s face it our fans (including me) arent loud and 95% of the people here who bitch about the crowd size dont go to the games.
I’m going to wait and see how things shape up with the draft and the summer before i decide on next season. At the end of next month i will however put a down payment on the BK seats.
Barclays is going to be like a palace though. It looks insane.
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I am one who actually tries to go to about 12-15 regular season games a year.
I usually go to every playoff game when we get in. I am extremely loud at games and get louder if I know a fan from another team is nearby. I take offense when other fans come into our building. The best feeling is chanting something and waiting for everyone to join in. Whether it be a basic DEFENSE or Lets go Nets. The first ones to follow are always the little kids around me. Once I get them going everyone starts up like a wave of noise! But it works, the team usually responds to the chants and excitement!
LETS GO NETS!
by JustinNJ on Feb 14, 2011 11:53 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
justin
we have one of the worst crowds in professional sports. Whether you do that or not doesnt really matter. I respect you for doing it but the crowd has no impact on the game at all.
I remember Evan Roberts going on a ratn on the radio how he tries to chant and cheer at games and nobody joins him and it just gets embarrasing.
They're not going to chant
you’ll get the occasional weak Defense or "lets go nets’ chant but it usually just sounds like an auditorium filled with 3rd graders at an assembly.
RJ really wanted to be here :(
http://www.nydailynews.com/blogs/nets/2011/02/richard-jefferson-helped-build-up-the-nets-says-it-hurts-to-see-the-franchise-crumble?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=Feed:nydnrss/blogs/nets(Blogs/The+InterNets)
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Wow, I really wish we game RJ that money instead of Outlaw now.
Even, if we gave him a 3 or 4 year deal instead of 5.
LETS GO NETS!
RJ is doing what is asked of him
And starting on a team that is the best in the NBA.
RJ was a starter and did play at an all star level before being hurt. He makes shots runs drives gets to the line. IMO if we sign RJ instead of OutLoL we are easily 10 games better. If we needed 20 a night from a wing RJ would have given us that. Did we even make an offer? He actually liked being here and would probably have signed the Outlaw deal just to be back in the area. He would be here averaging 19/5/5. He would run with Devin. Lead this team. Pass the ball and not get humiliated on D every night. It’s all about chemistry and his skillset would have made a difference here.
But what’s done is done. Avery’s biggest mistake was Outlaw and it may end up costing him this job if Billy can’t bail him out.
The JETS/NETS are coming!
by MrBDown on Feb 15, 2011 11:57 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
are you kidding me?
maybe he’s overpaid, but for a championship-caliber team needing that extra guy with capable of giving them an extra scoring lift, it’s worth it. RJ figuring out how to play in SA’s system is a huge part of their turnaround this year.
by sheepareevil on Feb 15, 2011 3:38 PM EST up reply actions
Next game I go to I will post it here. You will see how much louder it gets when I am at the game.
LETS GO NETS!
come on man
give it a rest. Our home court advantage sucks worse than the roster.
It was legit when we went on those playoff runs six years in a row.
It is hard to get people excited over a 12 win team and now a 25 win team if we are lucky.
LETS GO NETS!
no it wasnt legit
It was obviously better than it is now but I bought tickets to the pacers-nets game 5 the DAY of the game.
We didnt sell out games against the Cavs when we lost to them in the 2nd rd. The fan base doesnt support the team.
Prokhy....you know what you need to do.....
by HabPSU on Feb 15, 2011 12:05 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
Carmelo
does NOT want to play for the Nets.
by nygiants1 on Feb 15, 2011 12:06 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
dude
i’m not going to say it’s impossilbe but if you were Melo would you give up on playing for the knicks right now instead of the Nets?
Play in Newark with Brook Lopez or for the most valuable franchise in the NBA, in the garden with another top 10 player?
He doesn't want to stay in Denver. He and his wife apparently decided long ago to leave Denver and sell their mansion. The Nuggets FO stinks and is expected to buy out Billups.
However, if Knicks don’t make a better offer (which is dependent on what the Nets do) or if Melo decides to definitely rule out the Nets (that hasn’t happened at this time), then Melo probably wouldn’t mind to stay at Denver (if they won’t trade him) and delay making any decision.
If Melo stayed in Denver he would have the option of re-signing with Nuggets (until some time in June) or becoming a fee agent – in which case there would be other teams besides Knicks in competition for him (maybe even Lakers). He could still come to the Nets as a FA. Nets would still have Favors and 5 draft picks over next two years and an Arena that would be looking like a nice home for Melo.
The Melo posts would continue until July or a strike if Melo wasn’t traded anywhere.
We do have one of the smaller fan bases in the tri state area.
Our fanbase was growing during the Jason Kidd era, but, the Rat dragged us down to mediocracy again and turned many fans away. The point is, a fanbase is built when you win. We had three decades of God awful basketball teams before Kidd and Thorn took over and made us legit. The Nets actually had a buzz and excitement they never had before that time. I remember seeing more people wearing Nets jerseys then ever before.
LETS GO NETS!
Now we are back to losing and when you don't have a very large fanbase to start with then losing only complicates support further.
In addition, unless you are a die hard fan like myself or even if you were a die hard fan, many people were turned off by the Rat moving the team out of the state after they finally had a great product to watch.
LETS GO NETS!
we dont have
one of the smallest fan bases in the tri-state area. I think we have THEE smallest.
All your reasons for why our fans and homecourt advantage suck are true. Doesnt change that are fan base sucks.
The Warriors have had much less success than we have over the last 20 years yet they sell out last night. We just dont have passionate fans.
true fan bases
dont just show up when the team is in the ECF. Im not saying to sell out the areana but show up to the games with some enthsiasm and support your team.
Disagree
Chicago still placed in the top 5 after MJ left. Net Income had a recent article on attendance and it was a superb read. Even teams like the Warriors and the Cavs have a better fanbase.
by zenyatta on Feb 15, 2011 2:16 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
when you have the greatest dynasty besides the 60's celtics
all that has to retire and go away eventually. the fans knew there would be a time to rebuild and supported the bulls through the rough times and stayed there up to the point where they got rose and became an elite power again. the nets had plenty of chances to have a rabid fanbase but silly things wrecked it(michael ray and drugs, losing buck williams, losing mookie blaylock, drazen passing, derrick coleman being a complete team killer, trading cassell for marbury, getting top pick in the worst draft in history and losing the money hungry cog to success to free agency, cheap owner gutting the team three years two late(after the 06-07 season they should have blew it up), and gm pulling off great trades but having 0 iq in the draft)
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by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Feb 15, 2011 8:07 AM EST up reply actions
Warriors and Cavs?
Warriors are the only NBA game in town with the closest team being 80 miles away(maybe 370 miles should the Kings leave). They also are a “fun” bunch despite sucking.
The Cavs(whose attendance sucked before Lebron) had Lebron, and had a season ticket waiting list longer than the Nets and Knicks combined.
i'll answer both of your questions here
No. Not resigning Kenyon was devastating but it was the right move. I dont think that had to do with Ratner. I think Thorn knew that Kenyon wasnt that kind of a player.
Lottery the next 3 years. Nah, i think well make it in at least once. Maybe not a 5 seed but at least 1 8 seed.
if we signed kenyon to that deal he got from denver, would we be able to make other moves to improve team
rod said it would of hurt us
i think with our
draft picks and cap space we’ll be able to put together a team capable of making an 8th seed. For example, Philli is in cap space and doesnt have the resources we have to improve.
they dont have to get wosre
i think we’ll put together a team thats going to be better than 500 over the next 3 years.
Consider their GM
Thorn doesnt want to have a team that can just make the playoffs. He wants a team that can win.
They’re stuck up against the cap and cant move Elton Brand. You need to take steps back to move forward.
YES. I would have kept Kittles as well and looked to find that center we were having problems finding.
McCullough, Mourning, Mutombo, etc. couldn’t stay healthy or didn’t have the impact we were hoping for.
LETS GO NETS!
our year to win it all
was the year we lost to Detroit. Kidd played on one leg and we couldnt get past detroir but we were the better team.
By the time LA got to the finals they werent playing like a team. Detroit was better equipped to deal with Shaq than we were but i think the problems in LA would have gotten us over the hump
ill never forget that game 7
i was in 11th grade at some chicks house because her parents were out of town. I got wasted and started fights with knicks fans after the game that ruined the party.
Obviously, i was the only nets fan there.
nah dude
that was the 2nd round. Indiana was up next and with the shape Kidd was in we werent going to win that series.
A healthy Kidd and we might have won it all.
i'm not sure
what you’re asking. Be more specific.
As long as K-Mart doesn't go through the injuries he did while in Denver.
We stil had to add a piece, but, that was easier to do back then because players wanted to be here.
LETS GO NETS!
no.
I think that team had gone as far as it could have. Dont forget Kittles career was bascially over after that. He went to LAC and retired due to back issues.
I don't know. Look at the spurs all these years.
The core of Duncan, Manu and Parker. Kittles was our fourth impact player, he could have been replaced even though I loved him as a player. The chemistry that Kidd had with RJ and K-Mart was unreal. That young core was what we could have added other pieces to. K-mart’s contract was just awful though. Besides, if the Rat did not put the clamps on spending, Thorn could have put a legit team together around Kidd and RJ. He was just hand-cuffed to making improvements. Ultimately, Kidd knew that as long as the Rat was the owner, the team was not going to have the assets to improve. Therefore, he forced the trade. Kidd wants to be in a winning situation and out team was no longer that.
LETS GO NETS!
what clamps?
i think Ratner gets killed for “cutting costs” unfairly. Trading Kittles and Martin were both no brainers the way things worked out.
A few months after trading Martin and Kittles they added the all-time leading scorer in the history of the Nets franchise.
They were just never able to acquire the right size to go with the big three.
And besides, Parker, Manu and Duncan is a way better three than Martin, Kidd and Jefferson. Martin and Jefferson arent all-stars. Manu and Parker are.
Those three are better, but, they DID have chemistry.
And we did go the Finals two years in a row. Not too shabby.
I liked Vince and my wife loved Vince, but, he was not a winner. That move to getting Vince was all Rod Thorn putting a band aid on what most fans thought at the time was the Rat dismantling the best team the NETs ever had! Rod did a wonderful job with that trade. We gave up Eric Williams, Mourning and draft picks for Vince. After that Vince trade, we really made no impactful moves.
LETS GO NETS!
once again
The nets had chemistry but so did the Spurs who beat us in the finals and went on to win another finals together. The Spurs were always better than us.
Trading Kenyon Martin was the right move as was trading Kittles.
The Nets didnt trade for VC to put a bandaid over things they traded for him because they wanted to add one of the best scorers in their league to Kidd and Jefferson.
The nets drafted poorly during those years and should have moved Jefferson for a big man at some point during that time.
we could have gotten more
for RJ earlier in his tenure. At one point he was rumored to be goiing to Portland for Zach Randolph.
I would have pulled the trigger at the time hoping that playing with Kidd could have turned his attitude around. not to mention it would have given us the much needed size we lacked.
Kittles at the time was traded for two second round picks.
That to me was just a dump to save money. It ended up being an ok move because of the back problem, but, at the time Kittles never had such injuries.
LETS GO NETS!
remember how angry kidd was when we dumped martin and kittles
and we were going to camp with ron mercer and rodney buford
That was the worst time ever as a Nets fan!
Rodney Buford and Ron Mercer. Even Mourning wanted to jump ship before the season even started.
LETS GO NETS!
What stinks is that Mourning finally got healthier to actually play and goes on to win the title with Miami again. If we only had his contributions when we were making our runs instead of him being on the bench. (he had to go through a lot with the kidney) I would have loved to see him and Kenyon on the court together. We never got to see that.
LETS GO NETS!
come on man
think about it? Dont you think the Nets knew something about that?
And after trading Kenyon wasnt it smart to move Kittles and his 10 million dollar deal to create space moving foward?
I would say yes.
BUT, we went from being the most exciting team in the league to one with NO direction. It was a lose- lose for us.
LETS GO NETS!
Justin
you’re making no sense. Both of those moves were the right moves for the franchise, no?
Neither of those guys have been the same players since leaving and one is still being paid 17 million THIS season.
The nets teams that went to the finals were good but they were not great. 52 wins was our top # and we didnt even win 50 the second time around. We were a major product of a terrible eastern conference.
For christ sakes, Kenny Anderson started for the Celtics!
My point is that Kenyon is expiring.
Yeah, he is a shell of what he was, but, for one maybe he does not get hurt while playing with us. Point two: we just came off a 12 win season and before that we had back to back 34 win seasons. SO, where did we make out as a team. WE never rebuilt anything substantial and now he will be coming off the books anyway. Kittles had one year left and we trade him for two second rounders which to me is a salary dump. It was a perception! Fans and players were deflated after those two moves.
LETS GO NETS!
had we kept
that team together we would have been worse. Kittles career ended the next season and Vince was a million times better than Martin.
The conference improved around us and we would have had worse seasons with Kidd, Jefferson and Martin than we did during the Kidd,VC, RJ years
not to mention
the nets knew Kenyons injuries were inevitable with his past.
7 years 93 million is money for players like Kidd, not for players who Kidd made look better than they are.
To me that team would have had the chemistry needed to win.
Kidd, VC and RJ really never did. Even if we kept Kittles one more year, his 10 million would have been off the books. We then could have added pieces around that core and continued to win. Maybe some how Vince becomes a free agent and even signs with us. You never know. As for that albatros contract for K-Mart, I agree it was way too much and too many years, but, my point is that we have not done anything except for lose as a franchise since blowing that core up.
LETS GO NETS!
you're blinded
the teams that went to the final were not GREAT teams no matter how much chemistry you think they had.
Kittles played in 11 games the year after we traded him and had to retire. Martin has often been injured since then.
If you dont like the moves we’ve made since then that’s fine trading both players were the right deals.
VC is the 2nd best player in the Nets NBA history. We dont get him if we keep Martin.
then again
I shouldnt be surprised. You’re the same guy who told me he gets the crowd (if that’s what you want to call the attendance at nets game) to get up and get loud!
Someone has to do it.
If you complain and say fans are passive around you; don’t hate on the fans that get loud and emotional at the games. I am loud and proud.
LETS GO NETS!
I agree giving K-Mart the money he wanted would've hurt the team
Rod offered him a moderate contract during the season but he turned it down.
The problem was they traded Martin without getting a big back. Vince Carter was great but the team was unbalanced. The best players at 1,23 position didn’t work because they didn’t have a good big and didn’t want to pay for one.
Kittles should have stayed and retired a NET.
Tomofey Mozgoz about getting dunked on by Blake Griffin "I didn't like it"
wow the response was to mygiats1
i think Ratner gets killed for "cutting costs" unfairly. Trading Kittles and Martin were both no brainers the way things worked out.
A few months after trading Martin and Kittles they added the all-time leading scorer in the history of the Nets franchise.
They were just never able to acquire the right size to go with the big three.
And besides, Parker, Manu and Duncan is a way better three than Martin, Kidd and Jefferson. Martin and Jefferson arent all-stars. Manu and Parker are.
Tomofey Mozgoz about getting dunked on by Blake Griffin "I didn't like it"
That's right. Well, if we had gotten passed Detroit we were going to the Finals again.
LETS GO NETS!
i dont know man
kidd had a serious surgery after that season. I dont think he could go through another series.
He was in bad shape.
I would have loved to see Brook on those squads. A center we never had. Kidd would have made him a better and tougher player.
LETS GO NETS!
People should be paying more attention to the BKing interview with Jessica Taff posted above.
http://web.yesnetwork.com/media/video.jsp?content_id=13112953
King gave some clues into the next 10 days.
He seemed fairly confident he would move Troy Murphy, but of course didn’t say how.
Although Taff didn’t dare bring up Melo’s name (seems to be a prerequisite to any interview allowed by Nets FO (they seem to require asking about the Sasha trade first).. King admitted to getting and making calls. He said he would be watching Favors at the Rookie game and would be with his wife Sunday night at the ASG. He indicated he would be talking to GMs next week.
He seemed to indicate he wouldn’t be getting a 10 day contract (Earl Barron is latest speculated) until he knew the roster size at the trade deadline (he wasn’t sure if Nets would be taking back players at deadline – hint!!).
My take after hearing the BK interview is that even if Denver calls and is begging (between now and Sunday), BK won’t take the bait. BK knows Ujiri better than any other GM or owner (Dolan). King’s best chance is to make Ujiri wait until AFTER the ASG when either Plan A or Plan B takes effect.
If there WAS news, something would be going wrong.
Everything seems to be proceeding just as BKing expects. No sign of Knicks offering more and no sign that BKing is going to allow Ujiri to give the Knicks a reason to increase their offer at least until after the ASG. Without a better offer from Knicks (and I am still skeptical of the details of the mentioned Minny offer), Denver will get desperate by early next week, as will Melo.
Since King seems to be confident he will move Murphy (and might even take back an extra player), I am not out of line to believe that King is prepared for both Plan A and Plan B.
Doing nothing doesn’t seem to be the likely outcome – yet most Nets fans seem to have given up already.
Denver has known
since last summer that the Knicks couldnt offer a better package than the Nets. What seems evident now is that Carmelo Anthony does not want to play for the Nets.
Otherwise he’d be on the nets already.
False.
Melo is not enthusiastic about Nets, but he has never ruled them out either. He wasn’t prepared to make a commitment at the time Proky wisely pulled out, but he was willing to have the meeting with Proky. However there still wasn’t a deal in place and the deal that was being discussed at that time was turning into an awful deal for Nets.
The simple logic for why Melo would be expected to give into to Nets is that he wants the $$$. Ujiri wouldn’t have devoted so much time at milking the Nets for more and more if he didn’t think Melo would eventually agree. However that agreement wouldn’t likely happen until closer to the deadline.
Melo’s people need the Nets desperately now – either to get the Knicks to up their offer so that Denver would trade Melo to the Knicks or to accept Melo’s 2nd choice – a trade to the Nets. And Melo’s people always seemed to be OK with Proky in the first place.
Just let Billy King do his thing. Melo’s future is up in the air right now and he is holding up the entire trading market that is going to take place sometime after Sunday.
lets make a dea, if nets get melo, u can post all u want,
if nets dont get melo, u have to take a break
I am not even predicting Nets would get Melo right now, just that it is still an option (as is a Plan B) and people shouldn't be shuting their eyes as I keep reading here on NetsDaily (even as so many NBA writers agree that Nets are still a possibility)
If Nets did get Melo, I wouldn’t post about it for more than one day, just as with Murphy.
If Nets got Melo I just would enjoy the rest of the season and could finally tolerate watching Nets games.
Nets fans are about the most negative group of people I have seen. If anything, that is one of the biggest considerations for Melo not wanting to come to Nets.
STOP!
I am MELO’ED OUT. I don’t even want him anymore. Let’s just get something for Murph, and be done till the draft. Instead of watching our game films from now on, we should be watching SPURS game films. Maybe we can hire their assistance GM, or the guy who cleans their offices….SPURS/CELTICS in the Finals.
Paul from Sunny Delray Beach, Florida
jerry, stop the melo talk, he isnt coming here and you sound like compulsive when u write melo stuff here and that stuff here will affect the melodrama and the nets front office
u tweet melo, write melo articles here as if your a nets reporter
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