Updates, Updates, & More Updates
by Net Income on Dec 4, 2011 10:13 AM EST
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PrintOne thing is for certain. The Nets will wait on everyone but the bigs, whether it's waiting to see if Otis Smith will entertain offers for Dwight Howard or waiting to hear if Nene or Tyson Chandler are serious about their interest in the Nets. A decision on Kris Humphries is also part of the mix.
After the Nets have their big, expect a rush for the remaining wings, particularly the small fowards. It seems like every day a new name is added to the mix. Culled from the beat writers' articles, blogs and tweets, here's a list of players whose agents have reportedly been called: Tayshaun Prince, Caron Butler, Shane Battier, Andrei Kirilenko, Josh Howard, Rasual Butler, Arron Afflalo, Grant Hill, Boki Nachbar, Josh McRoberts, Luc Mbah a Moute, Shawne Williams and Jamal Crawford.
Meanwhile, Deron Williams is getting his team physical Sunday, Anthony Morrow is working out at the Bobcats facility and celebrating his mother's birthday. MarShon Brooks (and D-Will) found houses, Damion James is shipping stuff to New Jersey, Jordan Williams says he'll be in New Jersey Monday, Jordan Farmar and Sundiata Gaines are flying back from Europe and Johan Petro just keeps working out alone. Brook Lopez doesn't announce his plans. Both Travis Outlaw's Twitter and official website are down.
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And Outlaw is....
haha!
@ HowardBeckNYT
Deal done, source says. NBA is back.
-November 26th, 3:17 am.
So happy this lockout is over...
The site seems to be thriving again—and even though we’re all nervous about what’s happening this week at least the posts aren’t “Progress made” or “Talks break down.”
numbers are similar to trade deadline
"It's as sweet as it ever was, I'll tell you. Now, hopefully, we started something and we can win some more championships, but we're going to enjoy this one right now. Have a little champagne." --Julius Erving, May 12, 1976, ABA champion Nets locker room.
yup
haven’t gotten to the numbers the day of the Melo announcement or the D-Will trade, but we will.
"It's as sweet as it ever was, I'll tell you. Now, hopefully, we started something and we can win some more championships, but we're going to enjoy this one right now. Have a little champagne." --Julius Erving, May 12, 1976, ABA champion Nets locker room.
most impressive.
next echelon would be what? the “decision” board and subsequent threads?
maybe it was the “nets sign Travis Outlaw” thread
NI knows all
He’s milkin us for site hits!! Im sleep deprived already from med school. Netsdaily is exerting in and of itself. C’mon NI give us the juicy news we all want to hear.
all I know
well, most of what I know is here.
Nene is top target. D-Will thinks he can make him worth the max.
If they dont get him, Howard or Chandler, all life will end…
"It's as sweet as it ever was, I'll tell you. Now, hopefully, we started something and we can win some more championships, but we're going to enjoy this one right now. Have a little champagne." --Julius Erving, May 12, 1976, ABA champion Nets locker room.
by Net Income on Dec 4, 2011 11:03 AM EST up reply actions 4 recs
then...
BAMMMMM
We’re hit with that unexpected trade, that we never ever thought about. lol
@ HowardBeckNYT
Deal done, source says. NBA is back.
-November 26th, 3:17 am.
All I know is
This site is bonkers, how can anybody keep up (haha).
You must have rested up over the summer to have all this creative energy.
Seriously you and all are great.
Forming like Voltron.
by No Sleep Till Brooklyn on Dec 4, 2011 9:39 AM EST via iPhone app reply actions
where the hell is brook at?
I hope the trade speculations are not getting to him
by brickznujerz on Dec 4, 2011 9:40 AM EST via mobile reply actions
He's probably in NJ
he doesnt tweet and is generally a quiet guy. His brother is in Arizona.
"It's as sweet as it ever was, I'll tell you. Now, hopefully, we started something and we can win some more championships, but we're going to enjoy this one right now. Have a little champagne." --Julius Erving, May 12, 1976, ABA champion Nets locker room.
Luc Mbah a Moute has become my #1 choice at the wing.
Doubt we’ll have enough $$ for Moute though.
@ HowardBeckNYT
Deal done, source says. NBA is back.
-November 26th, 3:17 am.
by Andy. on Dec 4, 2011 9:42 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
Doubt he commands a lot of money
He’s strictly a defensive player, you’ll get no offense from him. I don’t think the Bucks see him as a NEED piece
front loading
as of now (still waiting on final negotiations on B issues), the Nets can front-load his deal"
—give him a signing bonus of 17.5% of the total contract amount. Say he’s getting $15 million over four. Add $2.6 million upfront.
—agree to give him his entire first year salary upfront. So say it’s 4.5 million in first year.
That means Milwaukee will have to come up $7 million in three days…cash.
And back in March, Charlier said the Nets expect to do just that with RFAs.
Alternative is you call Milwaukee and say will be sending you an offer sheet. You want to make a deal. In the past, that was a wise move, because teams making the offer had to tie up that money for a week while they waited. Now it’s three days. Less of a big deal. (and once you submit an offer sheet, it can only be withdrawn with the agreement of all three parties…the free agent and both teams.)
"It's as sweet as it ever was, I'll tell you. Now, hopefully, we started something and we can win some more championships, but we're going to enjoy this one right now. Have a little champagne." --Julius Erving, May 12, 1976, ABA champion Nets locker room.
so qualifying offers...
have to match the first year of the other offers? not the contract worth over the contract length?
no, the only contract
but if you want to scare the other team, you front load the deal so they will have to make a big CASH outlay within three days.
Thats what Kiki did with KMart. He told Thorn he was going to send him an offer sheet with all that plus a trade bonus of 12.5% to make it as onerous as possible, knowing the Nets were cash-short, just months after Ratner bought the team. If the Nets had agreed to match the seven year, $92.5 million deal, they would have also had to give him something like $24 million upfront, within seven days.
"It's as sweet as it ever was, I'll tell you. Now, hopefully, we started something and we can win some more championships, but we're going to enjoy this one right now. Have a little champagne." --Julius Erving, May 12, 1976, ABA champion Nets locker room.
so having Proky's billions
fighting in our corner really helps on both sides of this situation. it’s good to know, i just hope it doesn’t result in us overspending
Of course you realize in hindsight that K-Mart's contract not so hot
But I get your explanation, which is helpful.
Afflalo, Moute, and Jerebko
three RFA’s on three teams with shoddy/hardline ownership. Also thornton from the kings but it will take way too much money to pry him away
The realist keepin it real amongst the surrealists
I was in Baghdad before these little B.G.'s was in they daddy-bags.
by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Dec 4, 2011 2:52 PM EST up reply actions
too unproven
and offensively challenged. He has zero offensive game
by Andres B on Dec 4, 2011 9:43 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Any word on when will teams be able to trade the FA they just acquired this offseason?
If the twin towers experiment doesn’t pan out we could always try to trade the big we sign (Nene or Tyson) to Atlanta for Josh Smith.
He wants to stay I think because he's too afraid of the hate he'll receive (like LeBron) if he leaves
He can’t handle all the media reports, the criticism from the fans, all that. If Orlando can swing ANYTHING that makes them better, I think he stays
Maybe god told him to stay
In Prokhorov & Billy King WE TRUST.
8 > 3
DH12 OR BUST!
Official Member of the "Travis OutLOL Society". 5 years, 35 Million Dollars worth of lulz.
Really think AK is the way to go at the 3
you won’t find any FA SF who is more complete than him.
Not only is he a very good defender (and a versatile one) he also can do a lot of things on offense. We need more guys whom you give the ball an will do something with it. Guys like Mbah a Moute ain’t gonna cut it.
AK47 is very good too. Moute and Ak are my top two.
With Nene we need a SF who can play D. DJames will also help in that category.
@ HowardBeckNYT
Deal done, source says. NBA is back.
-November 26th, 3:17 am.
Yea, I’m really seeing our team going in the defensive category. Lopez, and Morrow being the main weak points. But if you can surround them with those two, or Battier, and another defensive minded back up center preferably Nazr Mohammed if we can get him on the cheap. Also adding Anthony Parker for his well roundedness, we’re looking at a really competitive team.
I really want Hump back…
If we give Nene the max. that’s probably unlikely. Even if Hump settles for 5M per.
@ HowardBeckNYT
Deal done, source says. NBA is back.
-November 26th, 3:17 am.
THE GOAT
My lil man.....can't tell me god don't exist.
by killa kadafi191 on Dec 4, 2011 9:59 AM EST up reply actions
PAC n Biggie 1 and 1A
Pac had the greater mind and words had power. Biggie had the voice and the flow. Together they could have been nasty. Don’t know when we’ll ever see an compete rapper.
by Zartan on Dec 4, 2011 12:33 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Jay not even close
Pac and Big then everybody else a distant 2nd and lower
The realist keepin it real amongst the surrealists
I was in Baghdad before these little B.G.'s was in they daddy-bags.
by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Dec 4, 2011 2:53 PM EST up reply actions
This reminded me to get back to my English homework
which is on Biggie Smalls.
I think it's fine.
by NetsMets4Life on Dec 4, 2011 10:07 AM EST up reply actions
We were assigned to do a group ballad, and my group chose to do it on Brooklyn's Finest.
Have to write my 4 stanzas.
I think it's fine.
by NetsMets4Life on Dec 4, 2011 10:09 AM EST up reply actions
Battier seems to have serious interest from the Heat and Lakers.
Fire Johnson and hire Van Gundy - I'm telling you Thorn was smoking something when he let Van Gundy slip away in the night.
by diehardNFFLbarnone on Dec 4, 2011 11:53 AM EST up reply actions
100% agreed
I’ve been preaching AK for awhile. Only concern: injuries. His minutes will need to be carefully monitored.
If you add Nene and AK47, you’re teamwork, creativity and passing on offense immediately improves.
by ZR on Dec 4, 2011 9:50 AM EST up reply actions
creativity!
now there’s an area our offense was once painfully lacking in… i know deron will help, but its important that others have good court vision and ball movement
Brook Lopez is already in Disney)))
I don't speak English
by RussianNets on Dec 4, 2011 9:47 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
have the rookies signed their contracts yet?
i imagine there’d be less negotiating there then with RFA’s and UFA’s…
i cannot wait to see what MarSwag brings to this offense, i just hope i’m not expecting too much (Kobe 2.0?!?)
they will wait until they have signed all their free agnets
to preserve cap space. While Brooks rookie salary scale, of $954,000, is already on the cap, J-Will’s is not and won’t be till he signs. Also, first rounders traditionally get $200,000 bonus on signing…but not before. So if you’re trying to preserve every dollar, you wait to sign him and give him that extra $200,000.
"It's as sweet as it ever was, I'll tell you. Now, hopefully, we started something and we can win some more championships, but we're going to enjoy this one right now. Have a little champagne." --Julius Erving, May 12, 1976, ABA champion Nets locker room.
Only a matter of time before CP, Dwight, Durant, Blake all force a trade to either the heat, knicks, lakers. <3 the nba. I think im done for a while cyas. Big east ball is starting up
I am going to turn this team around 360 Degrees- Jason Kidd
that will make for some great basketball
stern is foaming at the mouth of a playoff series that could have CP3 Melo Stat vs Wade Lebron and Bosh.
even better
Dwight Kobe vs Lebron Wade and Bosh.
Stern is praying for this
My lil man.....can't tell me god don't exist.
by killa kadafi191 on Dec 4, 2011 9:58 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
lol, sounds horrible. But I pull for St. Johns but I really am a genuine Big east fan, love the quality of play.
I am going to turn this team around 360 Degrees- Jason Kidd
Boog I saw the article
and I said this two days ago. If dwight doesn’t want to come to the nets he could tell Otis what he wants to hear.
He wants to stay because the Lakers will always be in play similar to the Knicks and Melo. The Lakers main pieces of their package will be the same thing it is on december 9 what it will be in March. The Nets offer won’t be. This also gives Dwight a chance to say he tried to work things out. Again if this was the Lakers offering this deal and it had a time line we know the outcome would be different.
No problem The Nets will move on to Nene. Houston is no longer in play. Golden State could offer Nene money but max??? I only see the Nets being that desperate right now
My lil man.....can't tell me god don't exist.
Killa.. you should write a fanpost every day or be an editorialist here
You read the NBA tealeaves very well. RIght on Melo situation. Right on Howard. Well said.
hahahahah thanks but no
Neither one of these were rocket science people just thought because the Lakers were an aging team would diminish the allure they have. It’s still the Lakers and a point that has been brought up they have proven they can build championship teams around two different stars in the last teen years. It’s not just about winning Dwight wants everything.
Melo wanted the Knicks. The Nets can still build a good team they will have to be creative is all. Billy has to do his job. I don’t like the Nene for max but I understand why
My lil man.....can't tell me god don't exist.
by killa kadafi191 on Dec 4, 2011 10:11 AM EST up reply actions
I see your point
I look at the situation from an outsider not as a net fan. Would I love Dwight to be on this team?? Hell yea but if it’s between the Nets and Lakers then the Lakers have the advantage. Again the Lakers have proven they can build a winner with either Bryant or Shaq. They have a history of winning. The Nets are trying to show they can have success in the Post Kidd Era. Honestly when you are Howard of course the Lakers looks more appealing.
Some call it pessimistic because I don’t give an advantage to the Nets. I never said it was impossible but unlikely yes. One thing I commend King on being done with this Dwight stuff early. Let the Lakers deal with it.
After being swept, a new coach, and the rumors of locker room drama. The Dwight rumors will only add to distractions till he is traded there. The last thing this team and Brook needs is distractions
My lil man.....can't tell me god don't exist.
by killa kadafi191 on Dec 4, 2011 10:53 AM EST up reply actions
the Lakers also have a giant cable deal
"It's as sweet as it ever was, I'll tell you. Now, hopefully, we started something and we can win some more championships, but we're going to enjoy this one right now. Have a little champagne." --Julius Erving, May 12, 1976, ABA champion Nets locker room.
2.1 billion with Time Warner right?
if Dwight goes to LA, he will carry Kobe and Gasol and free agents will be lining up for the MLE and Vets min to go there. I mean Dwights best teammates were Rashard Lewis, Hedo, J-Rich, and Grant Hill.
The lakers would be even scarier. Kobe is lying through his teeth saying he’s loyal for Odom and Bynum.
The realist keepin it real amongst the surrealists
I was in Baghdad before these little B.G.'s was in they daddy-bags.
by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Dec 4, 2011 2:58 PM EST up reply actions
Indeed!
We will know in due time but I got a feeling a trade for a SF will set it off for the Nets come december 9th contrary to these reports because they just don’t add up IMO….
No one is saying the same thing just a variation which comes as no surprise being that it’s the “media” after all haha!
by boogeewon on Dec 4, 2011 10:34 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
praying for josh smith
My lil man.....can't tell me god don't exist.
by killa kadafi191 on Dec 4, 2011 10:53 AM EST up reply actions
Yeah Smiith makes the most sense over Rudy
12,5 (or 13 after trade kicker) compared to 15 for Rudy….. Give Atlanta Morrow or Farmar and a 1st or 2 even IMO giving Atlanta room to get a Center… Plus josh wants out according to reports….
A 3 of D-Will/Smith/Lopez is > than D-Will/Nono/Lopez hands down!
Salute Bredren!!!
by boogeewon on Dec 4, 2011 11:14 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
the kid from UCLA? lawl
In Prokhorov & Billy King WE TRUST.
8 > 3
DH12 OR BUST!
Official Member of the "Travis OutLOL Society". 5 years, 35 Million Dollars worth of lulz.
told that's true
but he is still on the list.
"It's as sweet as it ever was, I'll tell you. Now, hopefully, we started something and we can win some more championships, but we're going to enjoy this one right now. Have a little champagne." --Julius Erving, May 12, 1976, ABA champion Nets locker room.
I also remember reading that DWill felt AK47 was underutilized in Sloan's system?
Can’t find the article I read about that but I remember hearing about it.
by ZR on Dec 4, 2011 10:04 AM EST up reply actions
true dat too
"It's as sweet as it ever was, I'll tell you. Now, hopefully, we started something and we can win some more championships, but we're going to enjoy this one right now. Have a little champagne." --Julius Erving, May 12, 1976, ABA champion Nets locker room.
That was long ago
The alpha dog fight between it being AK’s team the first years of the post-Stockton&Malone era and DWill’s emergence. DWill won that fight. And they seem to have been in good terms the past few years. I don’t think they’d have a problem playing together again.
I wonder how much would Boki cost?
(first post after a million years) LOL
Brooklyn, Where Nets Basketball Happen.
http://twitter.com/#!/jamesisahero07
http://ballandbasketnba.blogspot.com
how about the bi annual exception
$1.9 million instead of $1.1 million
"It's as sweet as it ever was, I'll tell you. Now, hopefully, we started something and we can win some more championships, but we're going to enjoy this one right now. Have a little champagne." --Julius Erving, May 12, 1976, ABA champion Nets locker room.
Was Nachbar some kind of extraordinary defender?
I only remember him as a Morrow type, hitting a lot of clutch 3s.
More hustle than actual talent
Loved him nonetheless. Had a signature dunk over Duncan that I remember.
by ZR on Dec 4, 2011 10:05 AM EST up reply actions
Boki's dunk...he did a lot of these for a long stretch
by ZR on Dec 4, 2011 10:07 AM EST up reply actions
Morrow is a much better 3 point shooter...
Boki was more a slasher combo and hustle player like the above says.
Certainly no wizard on the defensive end
I’m not sure why everyone loves him. Unless he comes for league minimum, I’d pass.
how much is the league minimum? Salary doesn’t add to the cap, right?
@ HowardBeckNYT
Deal done, source says. NBA is back.
-November 26th, 3:17 am.
part of it does
something like $400,000 I forget
"It's as sweet as it ever was, I'll tell you. Now, hopefully, we started something and we can win some more championships, but we're going to enjoy this one right now. Have a little champagne." --Julius Erving, May 12, 1976, ABA champion Nets locker room.
hustle player, real gritty and played with energy all the time
hustle can go a long way to keeping a player effective
The realist keepin it real amongst the surrealists
I was in Baghdad before these little B.G.'s was in they daddy-bags.
by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Dec 4, 2011 3:00 PM EST up reply actions
i think he bought Atlanta
or maybe the whole state of Georgia. “the Moscow of the Western Hemisphere!”
by Chakroot on Dec 4, 2011 10:10 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
At the All Star game in February, Howard said he wanted Kobe Bryant on his team more than anybody else. This Summer he described his ideal team as Paul/Williams/Ellis/Morrow/Jackson.
I think he is setting himself up for either situation but that he prefers LA because of the warm weather and the proximity to Hollywood (which someone here said was a preference for Dwight.)
I am not one who believes that Howard is coming here. He has LA on his mind. I am also not one that thinks CPaul is giving up millions to play in NY. So, what’s the Nets to do? We need another star for DWill – what trade is out there that would make him stay? Yes, Nene helps but it will eat up cap space. I see us pursuing the next level of stars on the wings via trade: Igoudala, Granger, etc.
Nene is at the same level as Iguodala, Granger
People just don’t realize that yet.
by ZR on Dec 4, 2011 10:24 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
i take granger highest
iggy lower then nene
by Andrew Flynn on Dec 4, 2011 10:25 AM EST up reply actions
theres a fascination with granger on this site.
When we needed a better PG. This site was obsessed with Rubio.
Now that we need SF- Granger
@ HowardBeckNYT
Deal done, source says. NBA is back.
-November 26th, 3:17 am.
Granger is a good player but I feel like he's always going to have injury concerns
Knees, knees, knees.
by ZR on Dec 4, 2011 10:36 AM EST up reply actions
Boom
Via DimeMag.com:
"You know, I’ve been hearing [rumors about] Dwight. I’ve been hearing [rumors about] Baron [Davis in the event of getting amnestied]. I’ve been hearing stuff a lot lately. I’ve talked to both of those guys and they wanna be here, so we’ll see what happens." – Matt Barnes
The Nets should target Afflalo
as was reported/rumored some days back. After signing Nene and assuming Howard goes to the Lakers, hopefully we could create cap space by amnesty-ing Outlaw and possibly dumping Farmar for nothing.
An overall solid SG who can defend, finish shots, run the break and isn’t ball-dominant. Very efficient 50% FG and his 3-point percentage was the same as Morrow’s and he made around as many 3s. Good to go now but still young. I’m thinking he could make an RJ kind of impact.
As he’s an RFA, I’d be willing to consider Crawford kind of money for him instead of trying for Crawford.
And then get AK for the mini-MLE. That’s it.
DWill, Gaines
Afflalo, Morrow, Brooks
AK, James
Nene
Lopez, Petro
Prokhorov is able to achieve a task in view. With Howard or without, Prokhorov will make correct things and will form which team it is possible to be proud.
I don't speak English
Funny thing about Dwight wanting to be a Laker is
the story of when he met Magic Johnson as a teenager. He asked Magic if he thought he would make it to the NBA and Magic told him he was too skinny. I would be heartbroken and would hate the Lakers forever.
I think it's fine.
or use that as motivation
to become the player you are today
My lil man.....can't tell me god don't exist.
by killa kadafi191 on Dec 4, 2011 10:46 AM EST up reply actions
Nene wants to win
Maybe they can talk him into lowering his asking price a decent amount by selling him on the idea of playing with the best point guard in the league (Arguably.) and the very real possibility of adding Dwight Howard to the mix and competing for championships the next several years. Or he can insist on a max deal and hope Indiana, GS, or Houston gives in and overpays for him and he can hope to sneak into the playoffs every year if he’s lucky. The Nets seem like the obvious choice on his list of suitors when you consider their bright future and the fact that he’ll get a nice contract too.
I do not know exactly how reliable RealGM is (I always thought it was more of a place for fan discussion), but here is this
http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/216983/Paul_Open_To_Trade_To_Magic_Clippers
While Chris Paul’s first choice may be the Knicks, sources say he is also open to being traded to the Magic and Clippers.
Paul can opt out of his contract after the coming season to become a free agent and the Hornets are considering trading him to help in their rebuilding process.
I think it's fine.
unless Howard is going to New Orleans...
I don’t see how he’s dealt to Orlando. They have absolutely nothing to offer.
I love the Nets...too bad they don't love me...
by BEB on Dec 4, 2011 10:46 AM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
. . .
The Clippers? But … I thought … didn’t we … I just … I mean I guess … heh.
That would be hella amazing if your prediction was right on point.
I think it's fine.
by NetsMets4Life on Dec 4, 2011 10:55 AM EST up reply actions
Chris Paul, Dwight Howard and Blake Griffin in Los Angeles.
It only makes total sense.
But we've heard from Alex Kennedy that Dwight has no interest in the Clippers.
Of course, if Paul is traded there, I am sure he would reconsider.
I think it's fine.
by NetsMets4Life on Dec 4, 2011 11:03 AM EST up reply actions
Exactly.
By the way, I’m starting to think that Dwight Howard wouldn’t be able to handle the pressure of playing in a New York market. He seems very thin-skinned. It’s a legitimate issue.
It certainly is notable that other stars have had little issue voicing their stances.
He has yet to do so, and it is likely because he is very worried about his image.
But then again, LA market is not all that different. I think if went to the Clippers or Nets, he would not feel the immediate pressure from either fan base to win a championship right away.
I think it's fine.
by NetsMets4Life on Dec 4, 2011 11:08 AM EST up reply actions
As compared to Lakers, of course.
Or even, dare I say, DUH KNICKZ
I think it's fine.
by NetsMets4Life on Dec 4, 2011 11:17 AM EST up reply actions
I doubt that
I seen New York people say the same thing when Lebron spurn them. Thing is he wants LA and New York if it’s the Nets or Knicks is not more appealing to Dwight than the Lakeshow
My lil man.....can't tell me god don't exist.
by killa kadafi191 on Dec 4, 2011 11:12 AM EST up reply actions
Killa, I love you, but I swear sometimes you're a broken record.
I’m not protecting myself from disappointment — remember: I expect him to go the Clippers — I’m just making an observation.
same here but I'm saying
I can see how you can say Dwight is thin skin.
The comments he makes on twitter, the confrontation with Bucher and etc etc etc. I just feel he never wanted New York. Bucher broke the story two years ago that Dwight wanted the Lakers. I think this has always been his plan. I see him going to clippers if they get Paul first but if they don’t I don’t see him joining the “other” LA team
My lil man.....can't tell me god don't exist.
by killa kadafi191 on Dec 4, 2011 11:20 AM EST up reply actions
What happened with him and Bucher?
Refresh my memory, please.
I think it's fine.
by NetsMets4Life on Dec 4, 2011 11:21 AM EST up reply actions
he confronted
Bucher in the locker room asking “where am I going to play since you know everything”
My lil man.....can't tell me god don't exist.
by killa kadafi191 on Dec 4, 2011 11:22 AM EST up reply actions
Dude is too sensitive.
Not sure if he’s gonna be able to get through the season, with all the questions he’s gonna get hammered with, without blowing up.
Over/under on a Howard tempter tantrum is three weeks.
He is already agitated with twitter.
Full of fans asking him to come to their team, and Magic fans begging him.
I think it's fine.
by NetsMets4Life on Dec 4, 2011 11:47 AM EST up reply actions
Then I wonder why he won't consider the Nets at all?
We already got Dwill.. what the hell is he waiting for? Oh yeah a sign from God.
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by silenthero07 on Dec 4, 2011 11:40 AM EST up reply actions
Yeah
I heard that before from like Woj or someone who said to not rule it out. But how the hell do they get both players? They barely have enough to just get one!
Um?
I think you should check out the Clippers’ assets again. They certainly have enough for both.
Um? Then why don't you consider this?
Howard has other options. So does Chris Paul. It’s no mystery Dwight is interested in the Lakers and possibly Brooklyn. CP3 could easily demand only the Knicks and that’s that.
If the Clippers trade all their assets to New Orleans, then why would Orlando want to take leftovers from LA when they can get a better package from Brooklyn?
Tell me how that makes any sense at all. You can’t speculate about the options a team like the Clippers have unless you know more about what Dwight and Chris Paul want. I keep trying to say this but people keep coming up with teams that have trade assets. At this point, that literally means NOTHING.
Not sure what any of that has to do with anything.
All I’m saying is that the Clippers have enough assets to formulate two (distinctive) trades for Dwight Howard and Chris Paul.
How?
You do realize the new CBA has not changed anything right? Players can still decide where they want to go and if NO or Orlando is told by their stars they prefer multiple destinations, then it’s up to their teams where they end up.
If you’re going to make these dream scenarios then at least consider everything. You’re ignoring half of the story to make your original predication seem possible
Lol ... what are you talking about?
I’m not being facetious; I really don’t understand what you’re getting at.
He probably recognizes
The Knicks can;t trade for him, and at least he will have a chance to win some games with the Magic or Clippers
already seeing Paul in LAC
Gordon+Bledsoe+Aminu+Minnesota Pick for Paul
then if Dwight is for real, they can ship off some of those other contracts that have a year left after the season and pick him up.
Paul, Blake, Dwight, DJ: madness. Lak—-who?
The realist keepin it real amongst the surrealists
I was in Baghdad before these little B.G.'s was in they daddy-bags.
by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Dec 4, 2011 3:12 PM EST up reply actions
On Billy King …
I know we talked about how in “Rod we trusted” but … I think that was mostly wishful trusting as he just seemed old and out of touch, maybe a little too passive. Of course, we haven’t a clue as to how hard he was working the phones but Billy King just feels more driven, hard working, on top of things. I’m glad he’s our GM at this particular moment. Hopefully, he’ll back up that sentiment with some good work and build us a team! You go Billy!
Rod was handicapped
by a GM that forced him to strip his team down. Rod built the majority of the assets King has had to use. Until proven otherwise Rod trumps King as a gm. NO way the Melo situation gets as ugly as it did last yr with Rod running the show.
yes, but
Thorn and Stefanski’s draft record was HORRID.
From the second round in 2002 to the first round in 2008, every single one a bust. None in the league. Planinic, Slay, Drejer, Wright, Ilic, MWilliams, Boone, Sean Williams. No undrafted players make it either.
King has a talent for finding talent late, whether its buying a second round pick in 2003 from Thorn to take Korver or signing Raja Bell after he wasn’t drafted or taking Louis Williams in the late second round.
"It's as sweet as it ever was, I'll tell you. Now, hopefully, we started something and we can win some more championships, but we're going to enjoy this one right now. Have a little champagne." --Julius Erving, May 12, 1976, ABA champion Nets locker room.
by Net Income on Dec 4, 2011 11:09 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
no. no. no.
Rod was abysmal at his job. No excuses.
Rod had one good move, trading for Kidd, that made his "legacy"
pretty much everything after that was awful
i definitely trust Billy
his only problem is Philly was:
1) some bad long term deals
2) built (or was forced to) his team around a superstar
that said, he is a brilliant talent evaluator
and I think he is intelligent enough to have learned his lessons. He will bild around Deron. but Deron is also easier to build around than AI
The Brand signing really hurt
But Brand was a very very good player whose injuries crippled his career. Was it too much? Probably, but hindsight is 20/20.
by ZR on Dec 4, 2011 11:26 AM EST up reply actions
Well, Billy did give
Kenny Thomas $50 million over 7 years.
and Dalembert $65 million over 6.
NetsDaily.com
Thank God this Org is running a GM by committee mentality
BK/Dwill/Avery lol
someone approved it
"It's as sweet as it ever was, I'll tell you. Now, hopefully, we started something and we can win some more championships, but we're going to enjoy this one right now. Have a little champagne." --Julius Erving, May 12, 1976, ABA champion Nets locker room.
does seem like he learned from his mistakes as a young GM though
plus the CBA won’t let him hand out 7 year deals, so that’s good.
Isn't it Odd that Lopez has been MIA?!
He will be a direct report to Orlando on the 9th for his physical.
As BK said in his interview only one person will know his plans to prevent any leaks.
Brook will be in camp that day answering questions on will he rebound better
My lil man.....can't tell me god don't exist.
by killa kadafi191 on Dec 4, 2011 10:47 AM EST up reply actions
best way to find out
send scouts to the comic shops in the orlando area. look for the 7 ft guy in a green lantern shirt to walk in.
by Andrew Flynn on Dec 4, 2011 10:48 AM EST up reply actions
also, look at it like this.. IF he waive outlaw, just take 7 million off nene's deal
so it is now a 10 milion deal..
By the same logic
Hump could pay us $2 million to play here
"Chuckers ain't champions" -- James Naismith, 1891
by calling all toasters on Dec 4, 2011 11:00 AM EST up reply actions
other interesting point is: Wilson Chandler and JR will be FAs come March
Will they be RFAs then?
If we are 5 million under the cap, we can offer them a one year 5 million deal. If Denver is out of it, maybe they dont match.
CHandler would be great
can “test drive” him and see if he is a good fit. If so, resign him to a long term deal. He may do it because he likes NYC, so if he comes to the Nets he can live in Manhattan
Smith may get dumped this week
he and his coach are not getting along.
Who could have predicted that???
"It's as sweet as it ever was, I'll tell you. Now, hopefully, we started something and we can win some more championships, but we're going to enjoy this one right now. Have a little champagne." --Julius Erving, May 12, 1976, ABA champion Nets locker room.
Wilson Chandler regular season PER: 14
Playoff PER: 4
I think it's fine.
by NetsMets4Life on Dec 4, 2011 11:18 AM EST up reply actions
Even LeBroni can laugh at that. Though his PER went down by 4.
I think it's fine.
by NetsMets4Life on Dec 4, 2011 11:22 AM EST up reply actions
if we dont get DH
We can still sign Nene and use a combo of young guys and draft picks to trade for JSmoove.
DWill
Morrow
Smoove
Nene
Brook
Is at worst a 4 seed in the east, if Dwight is out west.
by Kidd Shizzle on Dec 4, 2011 10:58 AM EST via mobile reply actions
Luc Mbah a Moute
This guys fits our need for a small forward perfectly! I would love to have him over any other small forward on the market
I'm with you. though slightly offensively challenged, that should be fine if we have Brooks,Morrow,Nene or Dwight
this guy’s defense is NEEDED on ppl like Melo and Bron.
would have loved Chuck Hayes for cheap. did you see how he shut down Amare against the Knicks last season? wow!
I love players like that
In baseball they look for guys with high on base percentages. In basketball, all i would care about is players who play defense and are smart. If we can make a team like Deron, Brooks, Mbah a Moute, Hump, Dwight, we have one of the best defensive teams in the league
he'd be our sefolosha or Bogans
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i like
the part where it says “Petro continues working out alone”
dont know whether to giggle or feel bad
by pope of lofe on Dec 4, 2011 10:59 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
I respect that
He’s not desperate enough to play against Chair.
"Chuckers ain't champions" -- James Naismith, 1891
by calling all toasters on Dec 4, 2011 11:01 AM EST up reply actions
For the record, I like Jordan Farmar. Mulatto Jews have stick together.
However … he’s not worth his contract and his style of play isn’t conducive to consistent winning.
If he could control the mistakes and simply slow down sometimes he'd be much more consistent
And well worth all of his contract.
With that being said, there aren’t too many backup PGs with his skills.
by ZR on Dec 4, 2011 11:28 AM EST up reply actions
I think Farmar's a goner and he knows where.
"It's as sweet as it ever was, I'll tell you. Now, hopefully, we started something and we can win some more championships, but we're going to enjoy this one right now. Have a little champagne." --Julius Erving, May 12, 1976, ABA champion Nets locker room.
Wait, why does everyone feel that way?
Did i overlook an article?
lots of stuff he's been saying
leads me to that conclusion. Just an opinion.
"It's as sweet as it ever was, I'll tell you. Now, hopefully, we started something and we can win some more championships, but we're going to enjoy this one right now. Have a little champagne." --Julius Erving, May 12, 1976, ABA champion Nets locker room.
no tampering until CBA is ratified.
"It's as sweet as it ever was, I'll tell you. Now, hopefully, we started something and we can win some more championships, but we're going to enjoy this one right now. Have a little champagne." --Julius Erving, May 12, 1976, ABA champion Nets locker room.
the least relevant data point
he brought his fiancee and child with him to Israel. Maybe it’s just a quick turnaround, but his saying he doesnt want to back up D-Will, doesn’t see it, plans to opt out at the end of the year.
"It's as sweet as it ever was, I'll tell you. Now, hopefully, we started something and we can win some more championships, but we're going to enjoy this one right now. Have a little champagne." --Julius Erving, May 12, 1976, ABA champion Nets locker room.
Does he think he's going to get a starting gig?
In a league so deep with PG talent?
by ZR on Dec 4, 2011 11:29 AM EST up reply actions
i expect a trade from billy
If we do get nene i feel our 3 position will come out of trade
I only fear that marshon or morrow will be included hope its just farmar or petro and some picks for a good pick up
by Pure baller15 on Dec 4, 2011 11:06 AM EST via mobile reply actions
Can we do another round of “Outlaw is so bad” jokes, when Nets amnesty him?
@ HowardBeckNYT
Deal done, source says. NBA is back.
-November 26th, 3:17 am.
by the way
despite the number of comments, that wasn’t even in top 10 stories of the week in terms of viewership
"It's as sweet as it ever was, I'll tell you. Now, hopefully, we started something and we can win some more championships, but we're going to enjoy this one right now. Have a little champagne." --Julius Erving, May 12, 1976, ABA champion Nets locker room.
Dwight story??
My lil man.....can't tell me god don't exist.
by killa kadafi191 on Dec 4, 2011 11:14 AM EST up reply actions
Then lots of people view, and don’t comment.
@ HowardBeckNYT
Deal done, source says. NBA is back.
-November 26th, 3:17 am.
happens all the time
the regular commenters are small percentage of the overall base. we have more than 3,600 people who have registered to use the site…comment if they want to, vote in polls, etc.
Howard story was tops. Then Marc Stein comment to ESPN Radio about the Nets being Orlando’s best move, followed by D-Will decision on extension and the peice on how Nets were feeling optimistic and Nene is top target.
"It's as sweet as it ever was, I'll tell you. Now, hopefully, we started something and we can win some more championships, but we're going to enjoy this one right now. Have a little champagne." --Julius Erving, May 12, 1976, ABA champion Nets locker room.
I go on twitter and see "BOJAN" is trending
and I am thinking “this is impossible.” Well I was right, they are talking about a soccer player.
I think it's fine.
he's playing now I believe
"It's as sweet as it ever was, I'll tell you. Now, hopefully, we started something and we can win some more championships, but we're going to enjoy this one right now. Have a little champagne." --Julius Erving, May 12, 1976, ABA champion Nets locker room.
Any way we can pick up Brandon Roy if he gets amnestied?
He’d be a hell of a player to pick up on the cheap. Low risk, high reward
whaaa
other teams will be in line. it will be a bidding war and hes not worth it
by DJ HeavyDuty on Dec 4, 2011 11:29 AM EST up reply actions
There's no bidding war
It’s a silent auction. Teams submit one bid & the highest bid gets the player.
NI - Whats up with Lopez, why hasn't he reported yet? He wasn't oversees or anything, i'd think he would have been in the gym with Petro
I am just speculating in terms of a trade or something.
only Petro has "reported"
no one can officially report until the CBA is ratified and the camps open.
Morrow was in Charlotte working out at Bobcats facility. His mother’s birthday was yesterday. Lots of reasons why players havent shown up. Damion James was packing.
"It's as sweet as it ever was, I'll tell you. Now, hopefully, we started something and we can win some more championships, but we're going to enjoy this one right now. Have a little champagne." --Julius Erving, May 12, 1976, ABA champion Nets locker room.
maybe he knows if he reports
he will have to deal with hundred of questions. Wouldn’t it better to report Dec 9 when all doubt is remove and he can discuss how he can help the nets compete. Right now every question is basically saying your team wants dwight
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by killa kadafi191 on Dec 4, 2011 11:22 AM EST up reply actions
I like us getting Nene at 15 but will not mind if it is 17
One reason an uninsured Amare made a lot of difference to Knicks and signing Nene will do the same for us, and he is going to be insured. Long term we need that influence on FA’s.
We still have pieces to get a player like J Smoove or someone like him. Knicks dont have pieces but we will still have D James, Bogs, 2 picks, Farmar, Graham MVP & Petro.
I know Petro is a filler but you do need fillers as well that any team can re-use as a filler.
Also note we can let go hump and Amnesty TO so we can actually give cap releief as well to a team like Atlanta of nearly 10 -12 mil. So we dont really need to lose the farm
may be D James or farmar + Capsapce + pick can get us J Smoove.
Things will change quickly once we put the product on floor and play some real games.
I am very hopeful of a major streak to start the season with our in form star
think of it this way
youre not paying based on past performance in an offense where he was surrounded by ball hogs. youre paying him based on what D-Will thinks they can do together.
"It's as sweet as it ever was, I'll tell you. Now, hopefully, we started something and we can win some more championships, but we're going to enjoy this one right now. Have a little champagne." --Julius Erving, May 12, 1976, ABA champion Nets locker room.
exactly
look at how bad boozer looks without DWill
i cant remember seeing any Nene ally oops in Denver
a pass first pg raises everyones offensive game
by DJ HeavyDuty on Dec 4, 2011 11:23 AM EST up reply actions
Until a few highlight reel games last year
He’s always been under appreciated. He’s got a lot of lunch bucket traits.
I definitely do. D will is closest to J Kidd
and I am not a biased reporter, I expect us to move very quickly up the rankings once season starts with or without JSmoove but just with Nene Dwill and Lopez
The idea of
DWILL/MORROW/SMOOVE/NENE/LOPEZ wold be crazy exciting. 110ppg team…
don’t think its possible though
contenders easily behind the Heat
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Exactly
Nene will get the majority of the Pick and Roles now. HOPEFULLY. Lopez is awkward with the Pick and Roll. Pick and Pop is more of a Lopez thing.
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Lopez is too slow for picknrolls
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that's a good point
Chandler would help out more on D than Nene but on O Nene/Lopez would be devastating especially if you consider who will be pulling the strings(Dwill)
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I wanted Chandler earlier but if NENE can defend/rebound then im sold
problem is i dont feel like that is true. I still think Chandler is a better option but if Dwill wants Nene then Nene it is.
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Quality point guards have a way of making good players into great players
Web this team can run a successful, fluid offense, it will lead to less bad shots and long threes late in the shot clock. This will in turn lead to more offensive rebounds, less long rebounds and fast breaks (against the nets). This will lead to more half court defense, more control over the pace of the game, and essentially more opportunities to perform well on defense
Chandler has my vote, but not for the $20 Million a year I was reading here before.
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that's just a tactic to drive up his price
he wont get 20, neither will nene.
13-17mill
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im thinkin farmar petro and houstons pick
by DJ HeavyDuty on Dec 4, 2011 11:25 AM EST up reply actions
I was just thinking the same thing
Im not good with the numbers so i didnt want suggest this and be shot down by some of the posters but if thats possible thats what we go for wonder what atlanta thinks?
by Pure baller15 on Dec 4, 2011 11:30 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
imagine
Dwill
Morrow
Josh smith
Nene
Lopez
I like it
by Pure baller15 on Dec 4, 2011 11:34 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
i posted that
About 30 lines up. Very possible and very exciting.
by Kidd Shizzle on Dec 4, 2011 11:41 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Don't think we get Smoove wotih out including Lopez.
Nene at C,
Smoove at PF
AK or Prince at SF
Ammo or Brooks at SG (Ammo may be in deal also)
DWill
I think you can
Cap space & 2 first round picks will probably get it done.
I think Farmar for Mike Miller is a very good trade.
"I think I’m the best point guard in the league. No reason. I just think I’m the best.’’-Deron Williams.
Miller out for more than a month
series of injuries.
"It's as sweet as it ever was, I'll tell you. Now, hopefully, we started something and we can win some more championships, but we're going to enjoy this one right now. Have a little champagne." --Julius Erving, May 12, 1976, ABA champion Nets locker room.
well not if they trade him.
"I think I’m the best point guard in the league. No reason. I just think I’m the best.’’-Deron Williams.
you mean injury prone mike miller?
id rather sgn mdunleavy
by DJ HeavyDuty on Dec 4, 2011 11:24 AM EST up reply actions
morrow and miller are redundant
both can shoot and can’t do much else. no thanks
we already have our one dimensional shooter
dont need more
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what?
Mike Miller is a very complete player, he’s much more than just a shooter. he can play any perimeter position, he can help bring the ball up, he’s a good passer and an excellent rebound, also a much better defender than Morrow.
You’re seriously underrating Miller’s all around game here.
He used to be all those things
not anymore
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agreed - he looked awful in the finals
and miami should be the perfect situation for him. if he can’t play with those guys – he can’t play
perfect? he's behind the 2 best wings in the league
he can be the playmaker with LeBron and Wade on the same team. But he’s showed over the years that he’s pretty solid at creating for others. And despite the presence of those 2 he still was one of the best rebounding 2 guard in the whole league.
if he was that good he should have played SG to wade's PG
why is he getting amnestied? both lbj and wade can drive and kick out, which they did many times to miller but he was ineffective. and he’s defintely slow on D (at least in the finals). maybe he was hurt
he still does
Bryant, Wade and Evans were the only SG in the entire league who averaged more rpg than Miller last season, despite the fact that Miller played just 20 mpg and behing 2 of the best wings in the league.
he needs to grow his hair back and get the goldilocks agains
has been very injury prone since he cut his hair in washington
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by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Dec 4, 2011 3:23 PM EST up reply actions
Farmar Trades
Rudy Gay
25 million minus 17 for Nene brings the nets to 8 Million under the cap. That means that we can adsorb $8 million in a trade. If we package Farmar, DJames, Grahm, Bogs, $3 million, and the 2 pics this season, I think we can land Rudy Gay.
Why do the Griz do this:
They are spending a lot of money on their team now. If they can get Gay off of the books and come away with 8 to 10 million (once they decline Grahms option) shaved off their annual payroll plus 2 decent draft picks a young serviceable SF, a top backup PG, and a nice piece stored in Europe for a season or 2, it is not a bad trade for them.
Same goes for the Hawks with Josh Smith. Assuming Smooth can guard 3s.
This would give the nets as good a starting 5 as anyone in the league. PLus they would then qualify for the new exception given to teams who go over the cap in the off season and use that money to try and sign AK47.
NI, is this something that is possible, or am I just being a delusional fan here?
I really like Shane Battier
Great defensive player that can help mentor D. James as well…Have him spot up for the kick out 3 as well.
agreed
battier – james SF roation = solid.
defensive stalwarts
by pope of lofe on Dec 4, 2011 11:35 AM EST up reply actions
Anyone remember this?
http://www.aolnews.com/2009/10/04/brazils-nene-vows-to-retire-by-2016-olympics-to-focus-on-religi/
That would mean five more years, if he keeps his promise.
Im becoming more comfortable with Nene to play next to Lopez/
You have to respect Nene’s ferociousness. The man doesn’t back down. The type of player that can energize his team mates and fans from a single play or hard foul.
not happening
crawford and battier want money
by DJ HeavyDuty on Dec 4, 2011 11:35 AM EST up reply actions
How about T Young
Dwill
Morrow
Young
Nene
Lopez
?
I'm all about defense at the 3. Luc Ricard or Battier or Prince is who I'd like.
ideally, I’d like defense at the 4/5 too but those options are limited if your name isn’t Dwight.
prince plays d and can score
battier and luc dont play much O
by DJ HeavyDuty on Dec 4, 2011 11:41 AM EST up reply actions
Trade Farmar for
Pietrus or hakim Warrick.
"I think I’m the best point guard in the league. No reason. I just think I’m the best.’’-Deron Williams.
i was just thinking phoenix but for Robin Lopez
Farmar and petro for RLO
by DJ HeavyDuty on Dec 4, 2011 11:40 AM EST up reply actions
and...
the would laugh.
"I think I’m the best point guard in the league. No reason. I just think I’m the best.’’-Deron Williams.
farmar for dudley (i wish)
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by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Dec 4, 2011 3:23 PM EST up reply actions
NetsDaily Film Night is starting Friday. First film:
I think it's fine.
by NetsMets4Life on Dec 4, 2011 11:44 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
Fear the Beard
The next campaign slogan to attract Dwight
by OTRWaldo on Dec 4, 2011 11:45 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Ah, the first one.
Blast.
I think it's fine.
by NetsMets4Life on Dec 4, 2011 11:48 AM EST up reply actions
And the title is incorrect grammatically.
It is still a noble effort.
I think it's fine.
by NetsMets4Life on Dec 4, 2011 11:49 AM EST up reply actions
Mel Gibsons recent career trajectory sums up the nets...
High during back to back finals, and have been crashing since.
by ItsAllNets on Dec 4, 2011 11:46 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Ha!
I love the Nets...too bad they don't love me...
by BEB on Dec 4, 2011 6:19 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
I have a feeling we going to get HOWARD
but the wrong Howard.
Dwill
Morrow
Josh Howard
Nene
Lopez…
Thats our lineup opening night.
how exactly do we get S-moove?
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When can we legitimately expect to see
Our starting line up and rotation for the season? I hated last year, not knowing who was staying or who was going for pretty much the entire season. I can only hope that Dwight gets settled early on so we can all support the Nets players, knowing they’ll be Nets
atlanta has no PG
With Heinrich out w/ injury.
Farmar, James, bogs, $3M, and a #1?
Dwill/gaines
Brooks/morrow
JSmith
Nene/JWill
Brook
Might even get a couple solid vets on the cheap to join that lineup…
by Kidd Shizzle on Dec 4, 2011 11:47 AM EST via mobile reply actions
could also
Sign and trade Hump to make salaries work better.
by Kidd Shizzle on Dec 4, 2011 11:49 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
over the cap...
so they can’t sign him unless he takes MLE.
by BKNfastbreak on Dec 4, 2011 12:26 PM EST up reply actions
not enough IMO.
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=7zs2oyw
we’d have to add some picks and possibly Brooks or morrow too.
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What Atlanta really wants is a center so Harford can move to PF.
Goona require Lopez. I still make the trade if we get Smmove, cause we would have Nene to play C
Give them Petro, and convince him he's an All-Star
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So they trade there 2nd best player for
a over confident bench PG, a guy that has barely played any NBA games, a guy that hasn’t even played an NBA game, and the often overrated/underrated #1 pick?
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exactly... not enough unless they just want to dump him
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no one
Is giving up a young stud for JSmoove. Farmar put up solid #’s as a starter last year, and the point is, there are enough assets.
What exactly they would want…..not sure.
by Kidd Shizzle on Dec 4, 2011 11:53 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
well i think that the first round picks at this point
Is more important then the players so that could help us out this draft class has so much talent which is why i think atlanta might do it also it could free space so they can acquire a chris kaman or samuel dalmbert
by Pure baller15 on Dec 4, 2011 12:10 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
my only concern with this
Is maybe theyll try to give us back marvin williams and save their amnesty on someone else which dont think we could afford
by Pure baller15 on Dec 4, 2011 11:55 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
LOL
If that’s the case they can keep the bust named Marvin Williams, and Josh Smith. Granted, the same thing can be said for Josh Smith as everyone had been saying about Nene, he’s never played with a good PG. Smith is an ideal role player, and only a team with good pieces would be able to acquire him. Hawks aren’t rebuilding, and there window for even competing is closing, so you would have to think that they would expect something back for equal value or even greater.
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Hayes wouLd be perfect off the bench
He absolutely shut down Amare last year.
by dwill8brooklynbound on Dec 4, 2011 11:50 AM EST up reply actions
Hayes or McRoberts
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I fell off my chair when I saw Yi on the list..
But yeah he was a beast during the Olympic qualifier..
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by silenthero07 on Dec 4, 2011 11:52 AM EST up reply actions
i thought he did well when he played with us
hell we had two 7 footers that can shoot from the paint to the top of the key, but we didn’t have a playmaker to create a good flow on the offensive end. But on the defensive side, lets just say Yi and Lopez weren’t going to lock down many.
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He was a poor mans Yao in many ways
but he did average 12-7-1.5 when he was with this team. His FG% were the only awful thing about him, because he was 34% from 3 and 40% overall.
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OMG That's almost Nene's numbers
14/7/1
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Lol, so who would you want :-P
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chandler but its not what I want
its what dwill wants
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Just about everything was awful
No basketball iq, no defense, forced fed the ball and still no offense. Awful player no one is interested
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by shea23 on Dec 4, 2011 1:12 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Nene + trades
Nene,
then couldn’t the Nets amnesty Outlaw and set up a trade,Petro, Pick &/or Cash to Utah for Milsap and CJ Miles?
by domininaldo1981 on Dec 4, 2011 11:48 AM EST reply actions
I guess we'll have to see...
Billy certainly seems to be active and he has the assets to do it. We should have a much better idea in 6 days—and especially after Monday.
I think if we can't trade for Dwight then this is what I would do.
Amnesty Outlaw, should give us around 27 mil in cap space .
sign Nene or Chandler for 13-15mil.
Sign T Mac for 1yr or 2yr vets min to play sf
Fill out remaining roster with amnesty players.
Starting five
DWill
A.Morrow
TMac
Nene
BLopez
Bench
JWilliam
Petro
Marshon Brooks
Damion James
Jordan Farmar
Amnesty players we can pick up:
RJ
Brandon Roy
Mehmet Okur
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Let the show begin!
Amnesty Outlaw= 23mill not 27
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NO TO TRACY MCGRADY...
Would rather have Prince, AK47, Heck even Outlaw… (so we can Amnesty him later)
plus TMac can create his own shots.
DWill can still throw him alley oops, and morrow outside with the 3 point threat.
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what is this 2002?
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yeah but we can say the same for AK47
He’s not the player he used to be. Do you honestly think he can still defend the melos, lebrons, and other sf as well?
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I dont want ak47 either
always injured and is not the same player anymore
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yeah solid
But I feel like Green or Prince would be better.
Just my opinion
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I don't really like AK47's game.
I think TMac can still contribute, if you watched last year’s piston games… the man can still play.
Besides is low risk, and can give us another scoring threat.
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Farmar prediction:
Farmar to Lakers for Devin Ebanks and LAL 1st rd. pick. would leave us with a young wing, and 3 first rounders in a deep draft…plus cap space.
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I dont think its LA
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farmar and petro for Artest
dwill gaines
ammo brooks
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nene jwill
lopez jwill
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by DJ HeavyDuty on Dec 4, 2011 12:19 PM EST up reply actions
then la would amnesty walton..
i could see that
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by BrettGardnerLF on Dec 4, 2011 12:22 PM EST up reply actions
Hell Yeah I would do that
I love Artest aka Meta
Brings Defense and so much toughness that we need
Plus Meta LOVES Brooklyn!
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Artest for Farmar + Petro + maybe a 2nd rounder
This makes too much sense actually.
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Why would the Lakers take back Farmar?
He’s a pure point, and one of the few players excited to come to Jersey so he could get out of the triangle. Phil wouldn’t have let him go if he needed him.
Phil isn't there any more and the triangle offense might be gone unless Brown is going to use it
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A lot of options
It really doesnt matter what we all want or think the Nets should sign or trade for. I think the only guarantee right now is Nene. All signs point to DWill wanting him, so Billy King is going to throw a huge contract at him to get him to sign. Other then Nene we have no clue who we will sign. its really just a waiting game.
Personally…. I want to see AK47 sign to be our starting SF. His defense stands out and is something the Nets need while facing Lebron, Melo and Paul Pierce in the East.
If we trade for Dwight our young talent will be depleted so i wouldnt mind a trade for OJ Mayo. We will still have Marshon but i would much rather have a starting SG which some NBA experience. Its very possible that Orlando will want Anthony Morrow to be included in the trade.
Deron/Farmar
Mayo/Brooks
AK47/James
Nene/Humphries/Wright
Dwight/Petro
But like i said it really doesnt matter because i think Billy King is going to be so aggressive this offseason that we are going to see signings/trades that no one could have predicted. Similar to how no one saw the Deron Williams trade going down.
Howard trade is plan A but this is my plan B
Sign Nene or Chandler
Go after Hayes/McRoberts/Hump whichever is cheaper
Amnesty Outlaw and use the money to sign a veteran wing like Prince/Battier or a young one Like Green/Young
use the MLE for someone like Luc MBA Amoute
Trade Farmar for picks/cap space
Dwill/Gaines/D-league dude
Morrow/Brooks/Luc
Prince/James/Luc
Nene/Hayes/Luc
Lopez/Jwill/French
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As NI said earlier...
youre not paying based on past performance in an offense where he was surrounded by ball hogs. youre paying him based on what D-Will thinks they can do together
If deron is confident that he and Nene can get the job done, you have to do what it takes to get nene. The FO has already stated publicly that they are ready and willing to put pieces around dwill to build a competitive team. They can’t back off from this stance or deron is as good as gone.
How many games did proky attend last season?
one thing i love about the prospect of signing nene
would be that the knicks drafted him ;)
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NI— Question...
Let’s say the Nets amnesty Outlaw. That gives us, what, 25 million in space? If we sign Nene for let’s say 15m/yr, then we have 10 left, say we sign someone or make trade and that ends up taking the rest of the 10. Do we then get to use a MLE on top of that? So we could end up spending ~5m/y or someone else? Thanks!
by corky_romano4life on Dec 4, 2011 12:01 PM EST reply actions
Good question
The whole salary cap thing confuses me about the NBA. Its not as simple as the NFL. The Lakers team salary last year was 91mil…. I dont understand how thats possible… I get that you can go over the salary cap because its a soft cap but still, i dont get how teams can over that much and still sign players. If thats possible then the Nets should have no problem signing AK47,Nene,Chandler,Dwight,Prince and every and all FAs they want lol. Im over exagerating here, obviously we wouldnt sign ALL of them…. but i hope you get what im saying.
you are correct to my understanding
but we only have around 22-23 mill with Outlaw included
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but you can add the MLE and it's 27-28 total
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my understanding of CBA...
Nets can NOT use MLE this offseason because they are currently under the cap. I believe once they reach the cap…they will be allowed to use a mini exemption to go over the cap by a few mil, but not the MLE.
by BKNfastbreak on Dec 4, 2011 12:31 PM EST up reply actions
i dont think thats right
they can use the MLE and the LLE ($1.9M) if they are between the cap and the luxury tax threshold, which is $70 million. If they are near the tax threshold and the MLE would put them over, then they get the Mini-MLE.
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that's what I though too
We can use both MLE and LLE this year
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thanks...
it would be useful to have the CBA summary linked on the left side of Netsdaily. I’ve read it, but still need to be refreshed.
by BKNfastbreak on Dec 4, 2011 12:52 PM EST up reply actions
I assumed that Nets are a ROOM team...
Mid-Level Exception for Room Teams: A new Exception is
available for teams that use Room under the Salary Cap (and
therefore forfeit their Non-Taxpayer Mid-Level and Bi-Annual
Exceptions). The exception allows a team using Room to
thereafter sign one or more free agents to a contract with a total
first year salary up to $2.5M and up to 2 years in length. Exception
amount to grow 3% annually.
by BKNfastbreak on Dec 4, 2011 12:58 PM EST up reply actions
youre not a room team
till you go right up to the luxury tax threshold and want to sign someone. The Mini-MLE then becomes available.
Nets are currently $16 million UNDER the cap and $28 million UNDER the tax threshold. Amnesty Outlaw and they’re $23 million under cap and $45 million under threshold.
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so if I'm understanding this correct...
Nets could use up their cap room on FAs or trades. THEN use the MLE starting at $5 mil? And also use the LLE this offseason if they choose?
Incorrect
The Nets renounce/forfeit all exceptions in order to use cap room. There are cap holds for exception values. They are a cap room team, meaning we can spend up to the cap & then use the 2 year, $2.5mil exception granted to under the cap teams.
But why does that matter
If the lakers can spend 91 mil a year why cant we? Can anyone explain how the NBA cap works? How are teams able to over spend so much but we are so set on staying within the cap and worried we wont have enough cap to get several top FAs.
Players get raises
When Kobe signs a long term deal with almost $30mil per year in the final seasons, you can see how their payroll is almost $100mil
Cap Space is needed to sign free agents only
You don’t need for trades although it helps at times when you want to absorb another contract(Turkoglu)
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That makes sense
So by trading for players we can go over the cap. So hypothetically, if we spend all of our free cap space in FA we can technically make the trade for Dwight enabling us to go over the Cap and have multiple larger contracts like the Lakers?
Jsmoove is a better 3 than 4
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It isnt about that.
We would be eating into our cap to get him in a trade before Dec . 9, which wouldnt leave room for Nene. We cant match salaries with ATL.
previously posted proposals...
would assume that Atl would take SOME salary back. So let’s say Nets send Farmar ($4 mil.), plus 2 1st rounders, and let’s say Morrow or Brooks (to replace Crawford). The Nets would shed $5 to $8 mil in that deal.
Josh Smith makes $12.4 mil so the Nets start with about $23 mil after amnesty Outlaw. Plus the $5 to $8 mil sent to ATL. The Nets would still have $16-19 mil left to sign FAs.
I’m not saying ATL would take that trade, but if they want to shed salary, gain a young player to replace Crawford, and pick up two 1st rounders in a DEEP draft…this would be the way to go.
by BKNfastbreak on Dec 4, 2011 12:38 PM EST up reply actions
miscalculation...
Brooks does not currently count against the cap so it would be $4 to $8 mil sent to ATL in deal.
by BKNfastbreak on Dec 4, 2011 12:40 PM EST up reply actions
undersized that makes it up with athleticism
it’d be for the best if someone taught the man how to shoot jumpers and effectively dribble-drive
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by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Dec 4, 2011 3:27 PM EST up reply actions
Disagree
he’s another tweener that’s on and off depending on the matchup.
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why?
A big is our #1 priority and we would gladly go over the cap to get JSmith.
by Kidd Shizzle on Dec 4, 2011 12:17 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I just dont know about Nene
I would actually like Nene if it was 10-11 mil. But at Max? Then it doesnt become about Deron anymore. Getting people to try and keep your star doesnt work. It didnt work for Dwight or LeBron. We would be a consistent 5 or 6 seed and have no room to improve. To me, that sounds exactly like the Magic. It just doesnt work.
+1
dwill isn’t qualified to be a gm. maxing nene would be a disaster
I dont think anyone thinks he deserves max money
Hes asking for it but realistically what GM with cap to spend would be willing to offer him a max deal? He may get offers of 8,9,10,11,12mil…. all the nets have to do is offer him 12.5mil and outbid the others. I think Nene is looking to go wherever he gets the most money. Obviously money is more important to him right now then winning a title or he would be taking less money to play with Miami. The Nets can get him for under a max contract i think.
i'm sorry but youre not reading what every reporter is writing
that the Nets WILL offer him the max or close to the max.
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I am reading those reports
But why would the Nets offer him a max contract if other teams are offering him less then that? You dont think Billy King is going to be communicating with Nenes Agents and other GMs and figuring out what other teams are offering him? It doesnt make sense that Billy King would offer him a max deal if the best offer on the table for him is say…. 10mil a year.
and i dont think its as bad
as everyone thinks.
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by BrettGardnerLF on Dec 4, 2011 12:17 PM EST up reply actions
I understand you
but think about it and go see some clips of Nene. The guy is a very good Pick and Roll player. Dwill and Boozer made a lot of noise in the playoffs. Now think of who Nene played with in Denver, Anthony. Anthony’s career attemps are 19.3 a game. Nene career attempts is 8.2 a game. You actually think with Dwill, Nene career attempts are not going to go up. As for his rebounding, Hump had career year rebounding playing next to lopez. What do you thing Nene’s numbers are going to look like?
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youre forgetting Al Harrington, JR Smith, etc.,etc.
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wow
denver = chucker city!
nene might be able to avg 20 a game if he actually got the ball! for real
by corky_romano4life on Dec 4, 2011 12:22 PM EST up reply actions
Chauncey Billups, Allen Iverson, Kenyon Martin, etc., etc.
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by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Dec 4, 2011 3:28 PM EST up reply actions
Based on what?
what are basing those stats on?
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Maybe I'm delusional...
Didn’t nene say in an interview (contents of which were posted on this site) that it isn’t about the money, about how he has been wise with his finances and that he could retire now because he was smart with his money? Maybe because of this, he will accept a more realistic deal which will permit the Nets (or whichever team he signs with) to have more flexibility in making the team better, aka winning, aka what he wants.
by corky_romano4life on Dec 4, 2011 12:16 PM EST up reply actions
Its always about the money.
Especially if Nene comes here, because him and Deron wont get us a title.
on a separate issue
Sergei Kushchenko’s aide and translator, Vitaliy Darovskikhn posted this on his twitter account the other day…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uhsz_dLgzp0
It’s called “Luck is an Attitude”
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That was very good.
I think it's fine.
by NetsMets4Life on Dec 4, 2011 12:21 PM EST up reply actions
Im afraid King can’t be Deron’s puppet. It could ruin this franchise’s flexibility for years to come, especially if D-Will decides to leave. I feel it’s Dwight or bust for this team right now
If King gives Nene the MAX
it is because King and Dwill think Nene will make an impact.
I also think Nene will make an impact, but for us to get him we have to pay him close to th MAX.
If Orl snoozes, King isnt going to loose. Nene will get a nice offer, close to the Max. I am for it. I see what King and Dwill is seeing. Dwill probably knows that Howard wants to go to LA and has moved on.
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even if deron leaves
and we sign nene..at least we have a front court of lopez/nene going into brooklyn!
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by BrettGardnerLF on Dec 4, 2011 12:25 PM EST up reply actions
I am willing to accept
that too.
we are at a cross roads again Nets fans. We went through this with Kidd. We could have offered him to the Spurs before the trade deadline the year Kidd’s contract was up. We waited it out. Granted Kidd forced Mouring on the nets but he re-signed.
If Nene can do what he has done before plus more touches from a Passing PG, I can see Dwill staying and being the face of this Brooklyn Franchise.
Nene/Lopez is fine with me if Dwill decides to leave.
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doubt we could get rudy without giving up morrow..
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i think memphis wants to keep rudy
better shot at something like this… Hump (re-signed), Brooks, Houston 1st for Granger
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before the draft indy was high on brooks
were thinking of taking him at 15…
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by BrettGardnerLF on Dec 4, 2011 12:31 PM EST up reply actions
One thing i have learned, is that nothing is certain till it becomes official...
For all we know we end up signing or trading for someone out of left field that was never even discussed.
So much uncertainty especially with King trying to be extra silent to ensure nothing at all leaks.
Wouldn’t be surprised if King and Otis have been in negotiations. I don’t see anything leaking…
Another thing
If we dont trade our remaining assets, we can move up in the draft to get a really good player to add to Dwill, Nene, and Lopez.
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what assets?
we have none other than our cap space or Lopez. I mean significant assets that may land you a significant player.
If no one is traded,
after this season, 2-2012 and 2013 draft pick(s) along with final years on farmar, and petro contracts.
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CAP space...
The Nets can absorb salary and have three 1st rounders available to be traded (2012, Hous 2012, and 2014).
Morrow, Farmar, and Brooks are considered assets too. They aren’t good enough to get a top player in themselves but pair them with multiple first rounders and the ability to clear a bunch of space and maybe someone bites.
Crazier things have happened. VC and P. Gasol?
by BKNfastbreak on Dec 4, 2011 12:44 PM EST up reply actions
hoping the rockets could make the playoffs this year
the nets could have two picks 15-30. now if it was 15 and 19 do you think they could maybe move into the bottom half of the top ten plus get an extra player back in a trade?
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by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Dec 4, 2011 3:31 PM EST up reply actions
bingo. dont forget
Bojan as a chip
Farmar and petro expiring
I really like Kris Joseph but im a Syracuse fan too
by DJ HeavyDuty on Dec 4, 2011 12:32 PM EST up reply actions
sadly Petro NOT expiring...
Farmar has player option that he says he will use. So he would expiring.
by BKNfastbreak on Dec 4, 2011 12:45 PM EST up reply actions
Blueprint for Potential Greatness:
Assuming I may make a few mistakes with #s and rules, here’s a general idea for what I think needs to happen for us to be top 4 seed in east. Also assumes D12 trade doesn’t happen yet. Lastly, it’s assumed OutLOL is amnestied.
1– Sign Nene for $15/yr max but do not lose out because HOU offers 15.5 or 16
2– TRADE for a SF: Granger, Josh Smith, Andre Iguoadala. Use Farmar, Petro, not great picks, and Damion James if necessary. Morrow if they insist.
3– Use MLE to sign either a backup center (DeAndre Jordan) or a SF to make that situation better… basically use it on someone who can really help the team. I really like J. McRoberts.
4– Fill up roster with some good vets… maybe VC takes minimum, probably not. But someone will.
So:
Williams / Gains
Morrow / Brooks
Granger,Smith,Iguoadala / MLE
Nene / Williams /MLE
Lopez / vet
If for some reason D12 wants to come here, we’ll have plenty of assets.
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One of of most beloved kids
from BROOKLYN. Was a star and role model for anyone that played ball in Brooklyn just because he went to the NBA straight out of High School. But I don’t want him here lol, but the kid has a fan base along with Starbury.
Feels good to be back
whoa whoa whoa you mean either of the 3 right?
Granger,Smith,Iguoadala
by DJ HeavyDuty on Dec 4, 2011 12:34 PM EST up reply actions
And Now...
The Artest thingy sounds good too…. for half the price… but he’s a friggin head case and not as good as those others
by corky_romano4life on Dec 4, 2011 12:35 PM EST up reply actions
Farmar Petro and some picks
for guys like Iggy Jsmith etc.
What fantasy world do you people live in?
by NetsKiNG on Dec 4, 2011 12:42 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
NBA 2k12 Trade Override world
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to get even close...
to a deal for one of those guys the Nets would need to be willing to give up multiple 1st rounders plus a combination of Morrow/Brooks/Farmar etc. to even have a chance…plus take back a chunk of salary.
by BKNfastbreak on Dec 4, 2011 12:47 PM EST up reply actions
"blockbuster" deal is possible...
with the way BK operates. If Nets decide to be all-in (which they are) plus they feel they are out of the Howard running…all 1st rounders and current flexibility is up for grabs. In that case the Nets are still in position to make blockbuster that doesn’t necessarily need to include Lopez and Deron.
Come December 9th...
Trade Morrow and a 1st or 2 to Atlanta for “disgruntled” Josh Smith
Then put an offer sheet for Arron Afflalo 7.5mil forcing Denver to have to pay more or lose him haha (but I’m serious)
Amnesty Outlaw
Resign Humphries 6mil
Trade Farmar to Phoenix for Pietrus
Fill the roster out after making a run for Josh McRoberts and get ready for the season haha!
D-Will/Gaines/Who cares
Afflalo/Brooks/Pietrus
J.Smith/Pietrus/James
Humphries/McRoberts/Williams
Lopez/Williams/Petro(damn smh)
This is a good look IMO!
by boogeewon on Dec 4, 2011 12:34 PM EST via mobile reply actions
lol
No thanks to Hump.
1) Howard
2) Nene
3) Chandler
NO TO HUMP!!!
Official Member of the "DIDN'T WANT TO TRADE DERRICK FAVORS, BUT HAPPY WE GOT D. WILLIAMS" Movement
Wasn't there reports that Nets have spoken to Humps agent?
He’s the Nets backup plan if they won’t get Nene or Chandler.
Feels good to be back
BK
said on WFAN that at 9:05am he called his agent
by corky_romano4life on Dec 4, 2011 12:39 PM EST up reply actions
Ron Artest is a bit polarizing, not saying i want him, but he would constantly make sound bites and be a media magnet.
He would give the nets an enormous amount of publicity and radio time. I can see his blurbs showing up on WFAN and 1050 ESPN constantly for the things he says lol
lolz
Yormarket would market the heck out of World Peace. There’d be a UN night, a we <3 the world night, and some other good ones.
Plus if we get Nene, we’ll get Brazilian nights and then Cuban night for Lópes loll
by corky_romano4life on Dec 4, 2011 12:38 PM EST up reply actions
brazilian nights!!
In Prokhorov & Billy King WE TRUST.
8 > 3
DH12 OR BUST!
Official Member of the "Travis OutLOL Society". 5 years, 35 Million Dollars worth of lulz.
Trade Farmar+Petro for Artest
Dwill/Gaines/D-Leaguer
Morrow/Brooks
Meta World Peace/James
Nene/Hayes, McRoberts or Hump
Lopez/Jwill
We could still get Mba Amoute or AK47
In Prokhorov & Billy King WE TRUST.
8 > 3
DH12 OR BUST!
Official Member of the "Travis OutLOL Society". 5 years, 35 Million Dollars worth of lulz.
Not a bad situation...
Rather have AK47 and not give up any pieces for Artest. I think he’s done for.
I’m excited to see what Billy can do. Only a few more days!
I was cool with trying to get Ron Artest
I dont like this Meta World Peace.
Official Member of the "DIDN'T WANT TO TRADE DERRICK FAVORS, BUT HAPPY WE GOT D. WILLIAMS" Movement
NO TO THE FOLLOWING
AK47
PRINCE
CHANDLER FOR $20 MILLION FRIGGIN DOLLARS… THAT’S MORE THAN BRON MAKES!
ANY OTHER SCRUB.
We do not need to just get a free agent (BESIDES NENE)… Billy <3s trades, so he’ll twerk it,
by corky_romano4life on Dec 4, 2011 12:43 PM EST reply actions
lol @ Chandler asking for that much
He’s crazy and im sure he knows hes barely going to get half of that
Kirilenko is #1 on this guys list
http://blogs.hoopshype.com/blogs/johnson/2011/12/04/the-top-10-free-agent-small-forwards/
"Success is peace of mind which is a direct result of self-satisfaction in knowing you did your best to become the best that you are capable of becoming." - John R. Wooden
by D Will to Succeed on Dec 4, 2011 12:48 PM EST reply actions
I'd put him at number one as well.
Really hoping the Nets pick him up.
Al_Iannazzone Al Iannazzone
Hearing some things about the Nets’ schedule. It sounds like Deron Williams will make a return to Utah.
"Success is peace of mind which is a direct result of self-satisfaction in knowing you did your best to become the best that you are capable of becoming." - John R. Wooden
by D Will to Succeed on Dec 4, 2011 12:55 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Dwill returns back to utah
not every team will be playing both home and away against each other (out of conference teams)
hoping TNT, last time the nets were on TNT i think against the Suns in 2007
The realist keepin it real amongst the surrealists
I was in Baghdad before these little B.G.'s was in they daddy-bags.
by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Dec 4, 2011 3:42 PM EST up reply actions
Why should they boo at all?
Sure there are rumors he was a bit of a problem at the end of his time there but other than that he played great basketball for that team and was a warrior
VOM.COM/EW
unless he takes vet min
by corky_romano4life on Dec 4, 2011 1:05 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Dear NI
Do you know, or can you tell us if the NETS with have a representative in Brazil tomorrow to meet with Nene?
lol
might as well call Continental and see who is on the flight to São Paolo or Rio
by corky_romano4life on Dec 4, 2011 1:08 PM EST up reply actions
Not sure why that's funny...
It’s a legit question. Teams can meet with players starting tomorrow.
Looks like Nene's our guy
after we max him out, we just have to get on our knees and pray that we don’t get done in like the Cavs.
Giving the max to Nene is insane esp with the new CBA
He’s not worth close to that money. Just so thats clear.
"Next year, with a full training camp, I think he can go after that Scott Skiles' record of 30." - Billy King
+1
Point blank these are reports from a CBA yet to be finalized…. Everybody sayin something different and because of that there are warrior/Houston/Indiana fans all expecting Nene or Chandler or Jordan haha but hey the nba is back just not message board logic but it will all even out in due time….
by boogeewon on Dec 4, 2011 1:39 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
just a quick thought
What if we got chandler and trade brook for jsmooth..Atlanta is dying to use al at the 4 spot
by brickznujerz on Dec 4, 2011 1:33 PM EST via mobile reply actions
The only person brook will be moved for is Dwight Howard.
I think it's fine.
by NetsMets4Life on Dec 4, 2011 1:44 PM EST up reply actions
By the way
Trading for Josh Smith would be an advantage in the Dwight Howard sweepstakes. Smith and Howard are good friends.
It is also a disadvantage. Whatever you give for Smith is less assets to trade for Howard.
I think it's fine.
by NetsMets4Life on Dec 4, 2011 1:46 PM EST up reply actions
After D-Will's appearance on wfan Monday at noon
PeopLe on here will be singin a different toon haha book it!
by boogeewon on Dec 4, 2011 1:42 PM EST via mobile reply actions
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