Kirilenko Staying in Russia
by Net Income on Dec 31, 2011 9:29 AM EST
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PrintAny hopes the Nets had of reuniting Russia's favorite player with Russia's richest basketball fan ended Saturday when Andrei Kirilenko announced he was staying in Moscow for the entire season. AK-47 said that after considering various options, "I came to the conclusion that I should finish this season with CSKA."
The 30-year-old former NBA All-Star signed a three-year, $12 million contract with CSKA, his and Mikhail Prokhorov's former team, during the lockout. The contract had an "NBA out" which he had to exercise within a month of the end of the lockout. He had until January 8 to make his decision. Kirilenko and the Nets shared mutual interest but according to reports, the 6'9" forward wanted too much money, his last request reported at $26.5 million over three years.
Five of his former Jazz teammates play for the Nets. Under terms of his contract, he can return to the NBA in either of the next two years.
- Kirilenko decides to stay in Russia - Agence France Presse
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he's 30, not 35
"It's as sweet as it ever was, I'll tell you. Now, hopefully, we started something and we can win some more championships, but we're going to enjoy this one right now. Have a little champagne." --Julius Erving, May 12, 1976, ABA champion Nets locker room.
9 mil woulda been horrible.
Thx bk and ak.
I am going to turn this team around 360 Degrees- Jason Kidd
by njnets on Dec 31, 2011 9:07 AM EST via mobile reply actions
His demands were too high
But if they would’ve moderated he could have been perfect on a one year deal.
by nynjlawyer on Dec 31, 2011 9:10 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Over three years it would
It would have been fine for one year though.
"Next year, with a full training camp, I think he can go after that Scott Skiles' record of 30." - Billy King
Ouch
He could’ve really helped our squad.
by nynjlawyer on Dec 31, 2011 9:09 AM EST via mobile reply actions
how does this not get deleted?
D-WIll + D12 = NETS 2012 Champs (with lots of luck)
by corky_romano4life on Dec 31, 2011 4:39 PM EST up reply actions
Its probably true lol
Dwight or Bust
Nets lose 33+ games this season.
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Oh well
It looks like I was wrong about this but atleast I was right about Nono to Nene! Haha
Next up Farmar trade which seems like a lock…
by boogeewon on Dec 31, 2011 9:14 AM EST via mobile reply actions
I don't know how to use the sarcasm font
The SF position is overrated anyway.
Fire Brian Schottenheimer.
http://www.facebook.com/pages/1000000-Jets-fans-against-Brian-Schottenheimer/104252133024352
well we cant have d james start much longer
I like him off the bench hopefully steevenson will be able to get in shape and hold down that position for a little while
by Pure baller15 on Dec 31, 2011 9:17 AM EST via mobile reply actions
Now a lot of you are acting like you never wanted him anyway
I love the Nets...too bad they don't love me...
I didn't. I've been consistent.
2011-2012 season prediction: 22-44
And I'm fine with that. One of the original leaders of the "Dwight Howard, not Nono Hilario" movement.
A lot of us did but NOT AT THAT PRICE! Just about everyone here wanted to get him on a one year deal. We knew it would probably take more but he supposedly wanted to play for Proky so bad. For a multi-year deal with his injury history? That’s cap suicide!
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whoa whoa
Farmar DJames Hump Nets 1st pick
Beasley and Love
by DJ HeavyDuty on Dec 31, 2011 9:50 AM EST up reply actions
some of ya lost ya minds
We sound like the knicks if we think we can pick up kevin love for hump and a pick
by Pure baller15 on Dec 31, 2011 11:02 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
they have ricky rubio
why in god’s name would they want farmar? lol
by MrDollarBills on Dec 31, 2011 9:56 AM EST up reply actions
more like Luke Ridnour
2011-2012 season prediction: 22-44
And I'm fine with that. One of the original leaders of the "Dwight Howard, not Nono Hilario" movement.
I would like Farmar for Beasley, and suggested it in the off season, along with a pick
But hey’ve got JJ and Ridnour backing up the point, no need now.
2 reasons not to do that
1: beasley’s not an avery type player
2: minnesota has rubio and barea: why does minnesota do that
because its minnesota
The realist keepin it real amongst the surrealists
I was in Baghdad before these little B.G.'s was in they daddy-bags.
by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Dec 31, 2011 1:38 PM EST up reply actions
OT: Did anyone see this Marshon Brooks youtube channel
The guys said he uploading highlights from every game this year for Marshon.
LInk: http://www.youtube.com/user/MarShonChannel?blend=1&ob=video-mustangbase
by dwill8brooklynbound on Dec 31, 2011 9:26 AM EST reply actions
Damion James is...
T.O. James for turnover James…which we have heard a lot of this season
by scrapin240 on Dec 31, 2011 2:55 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
thank God we didn't sign him...
I was against it all along.
JKidd Era 2! Starring D.Williams as the lead actor, Avery Johnson as Byron Scott, and Player X as Player Y.
Let the show begin!
Just looked at the box score for Bulls-Clips game.
Rose had 29 points, 16 assists, and 8 rebounds. That is something Jordan would do.
I think it's fine.
That's Paul's biggest weakness
He can’t D those type of guards something that D-Will doesn’t have a problem with and it’s very important.
by sipitioking on Dec 31, 2011 12:08 PM EST up reply actions
Agree somewhat
But to be fair I don’t anyone short of Lebron James for a quarter or two can guard D Rose. Dude is 2 that can and is playing the 1 imo. His body type in terms of build and height is on the big size for a point guard more an undersized 2. Add in the fact that hes insanely athletic (probably the fastest player in the nba combined with a crazy vertical) and he’s to much to handle for any PG’s
"Next year, with a full training camp, I think he can go after that Scott Skiles' record of 30." - Billy King
But yeah Williams
Has about 3 inches and 30 pound on Paul so that can come in handy. Paul’s probably a little quicker though.
"Next year, with a full training camp, I think he can go after that Scott Skiles' record of 30." - Billy King
You get what you pay for
In case no one has noticed, we need a small forward (especially one that can play the 4 at times) desperately on both ends of the floor. DJames is not doing much out there and Shawne’s shot is off. We’ve been torched by small forwards in almost every game. If Brooks develops, we have the 2 solved, but the 3 is holding us back. He would have been a perfect fit on BOTH ends. Yes, expensive, but you get what you pay for.
Ummm, but we still need a Small Forward....
We have quasi back ups at the 4 and 5 spots and Garbage at the 3.
Teams are continue to trounce on our zero frontcourt.
Thank God we have a superstar at the 2. (yikes, but he’s still a rookie)
Phew, at least we have an All-STar at the Point, who cares… (Oh, scratch that).
A good Coach could still pull some of these parts together and… (ooops…nevermind)
Why do I bother again?
Its not worth it to give assets for a SF if it in anyway hurts the chances to get Howard.
Besides, Avery likes Damion and he needs to get Stevenson and Shawne in better shape before making a decision.
Yea, that Howard pursuit thing hasn't hurt us at all...
And btw, The three SF’s you mentioned are all 3rd string 3’s.
You shouldn’t be using Stvenson or Djames for more than 8-10 a game a piece.
And you should not be using Shawne Williams ever!
Stevenson started on a championship team
"We're not there yet, but we're going somewhere," Johnson said. "And we're going to Brooklyn. We're not going to contract. We're going to Brooklyn."
me too
maybe 10 mil
DWill Farmar Gaines
Ammo Brooks Stevenson
AK James ShaWill
Hump Shelly JWill
Lopez Petro
by DJ HeavyDuty on Dec 31, 2011 9:47 AM EST up reply actions
not sure why
Sheldon isn’t the first big off of the bench
He’s not great but in limited minutes he doesn’t kill us.
by MrDollarBills on Dec 31, 2011 9:51 AM EST up reply actions
Shelly Parker looked good last night
can he keep it up?
by DJ HeavyDuty on Dec 31, 2011 9:51 AM EST up reply actions
he was a #8 pick
good fundamentals and BBall IQ
by DJ HeavyDuty on Dec 31, 2011 10:01 AM EST up reply actions
Let's remember that Petro had 3 fouls and 3 turnovers
Your center can’t be hacking everyone on D. Shelden should jump in front of Petro on the depth chart
I truly believe
when Lopez comes back this is a dangerous team
depth, shooting, youth, experience, and good coaching
I'll give you this:
If the next time Avery drops the clipboard (which I’ve watched him do three times this year so far – he must be helping Dwill w/ his handle),
and PJ picks it (while drop kicking Avery)…
Then Yes, very Good Coaching actually.
Agree, including the Good Coaching.
Do you mind if Damion James takes your name of Heavy Duty?
i saw none of that since the washington game
DJ Hustle blows
by MrDollarBills on Dec 31, 2011 9:50 AM EST up reply actions
Did you tell him?
Lets give Damion a choice, once he starts having some good games.
He didn’t feel that he was ready for the name “LeBron-lite”, in a tweet.
no he aint ready for that name
He needs to work on his jumper if he wants PT on this team or get to the low post
by DJ HeavyDuty on Dec 31, 2011 9:53 AM EST up reply actions
Damion James
is not ready for the name “Lebron-lite”, hell I wouldn’t even call him “Rodney Buford-Lite” either.
by MrDollarBills on Dec 31, 2011 9:55 AM EST up reply actions
hahah that's a lot to ask of anyone
like seriously, Dennis Rodman was a world class athlete. James isn’t anywhere near that
by MrDollarBills on Dec 31, 2011 9:58 AM EST up reply actions
Rodman was selfless
went hard for evey rebound, took big charges, and passed the ball
by DJ HeavyDuty on Dec 31, 2011 10:02 AM EST up reply actions
when Lopez comes back
he will be rusty
by MrDollarBills on Dec 31, 2011 9:49 AM EST up reply actions
but Okur should be hot and Lopez wont have to rush
by DJ HeavyDuty on Dec 31, 2011 9:52 AM EST up reply actions
Rusty is not the right word.
He will be cautious and too soft, is my fear.
And Avery will delay, delay in putting him in a game.
Told you, he was apathetic about the NBA
2011-2012 season prediction: 22-44
And I'm fine with that. One of the original leaders of the "Dwight Howard, not Nono Hilario" movement.
we're going to have to
platoon it at 3.
I’m not sure that I want Stevenson starting at the 3 but he’s a better player than James and Shawne “Purple Lean” Williams. He also has some halfway decent ball handle.
James has been a disappointment
I thought that he’d be a good role player but he looks out of sorts and contributes nothing.
by MrDollarBills on Dec 31, 2011 9:54 AM EST up reply actions
its only game 4
he needs to find a niche. I believe he needs to get to the post on the left block and slash more ala RJ
by DJ HeavyDuty on Dec 31, 2011 9:59 AM EST up reply actions
imo he had his niche carved out for him
dunno what happened to hustling, rebound, defense, and finishing
by MrDollarBills on Dec 31, 2011 10:36 AM EST up reply actions
Damion is only good as a defensive specialist. He is an albatross on offense. He would fit on the Bulls haha
2011-2012 season prediction: 22-44
And I'm fine with that. One of the original leaders of the "Dwight Howard, not Nono Hilario" movement.
You will take back your words a Damion James.
He is doing what Avery is asking him to do.
He proved last year that he can score more, if he wanted to.
This is a better team than last year, so Damion isn’t trying to do too much on offense.
Damion will be fine, but Nets still need more offensive production from the SF position.
Shawne needs to get in better shape (his Butt is to big) and start hitting some 3s like with the Nets.
When did he prove he could score last year?
It’s not that Damion isn’t trying to do anything on offense, it’s that he can’t. He passes up wide open looks with regularity, can’t shoot to begin with, has no handle, clearly can’t catch a pass to save his life, and his perimeter D is not that good.
You can’t sell me on a player by saying he hustles. Because that’s all Damion can do.
And did you just say another mans butt is too big? I think you did. I’m uncomfortable now.
by Clayton Balch on Dec 31, 2011 10:21 AM EST up reply actions
Yes Damion wasn't passing up shots last year, in limited play.
Damion knows this team is better this season, and he IS passing up shots out of respect to his teammates and Avery’s wishes.
Damion is in GREAT shape. His scoring will come along shortly.
Shawne ISN’t in good shape. Last season with the Knicks I don’t recall noticing his Big Butt, but was impressed with his 3 pt shooting.
Come March 1, Shawne should be available as a trade piece, along with Farmar.
Yes he was.
He was routinely passing up wide open 3 point shots. Then on some of them he would take a dribble inside the line to shoot. That’s poor basketball and a hinderance to the team.
You’re taught from elementary school basketball to never pass up a wide open shot. Damion James does this almost every game.
by Clayton Balch on Dec 31, 2011 10:49 AM EST up reply actions
Are you really trying to tell me
that with the severe lack of offensive weapons this team has, he is benefitting the team by not being aggressive offensively and passing up wide open shots? C’mon Jerry.
by Clayton Balch on Dec 31, 2011 10:53 AM EST up reply actions
he is not a jumpshooter
so if Petro is wide open from 21 feet you want to give him the green light? him taking those because he’s wide open is “successful” execution
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by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Dec 31, 2011 1:40 PM EST up reply actions
damion isn't trying to do too much on offense?
last night was the first game out of 4 where we scored more than 70 points.
if he isn’t trying to do much on offense he’s doing a great job, because he stinks. After the 6 and 14 effort he had in game 1 he’s been abysmal and his playing time has decreased with each game. The guy isn’t giving the Nets anything, period.
by MrDollarBills on Dec 31, 2011 10:39 AM EST up reply actions
he cannot catch, cannot shoot, cannot finish
and his rebounding has dropped off. He needs to get his act together.
by MrDollarBills on Dec 31, 2011 10:40 AM EST up reply actions
since every thread turns into a dwight thread
i will speed up the inevitable.
DWIGHT HOWARD
wolves never rest
Please no.
2011-2012 season prediction: 22-44
And I'm fine with that. One of the original leaders of the "Dwight Howard, not Nono Hilario" movement.
Dwill Gaines
Ammo Brooks
AK James
Lopez Okur
Howard Okur
by DJ HeavyDuty on Dec 31, 2011 10:07 AM EST up reply actions
It only makes perfect sense and turns us into a Top 4 seed in the East next season!
J-Kidd to D-Will
Top 2 is still a reach with DWill, Brooks, SF, Lopez & Howard.
I’d still give the top 2 spots in the east to Miami and Chicago but we would definitely be in contention for the 3 seed but because of getting Dwight acclimated to playing with Lopez an a brand new thing, we’d probably end up with the 4th seed and be VERY dangerous in the playoffs!
J-Kidd to D-Will
I think that is clearly a 2 seed
2 top ten guys paired with a guy who has the potential to be a allstar (Lopez), Brooks if he keeps it up could be the same and a Nasty bench like that would compete for the 1/2 seed in the whole league. That would be the best front court in Ages.
Everyone thought LeBron and DWade would have to learn to play together
They were right they struggled and still won close to 60 games
I say top 3
Bulls look dangerous, Rose seems to have improved even MORE.
by MrDollarBills on Dec 31, 2011 10:44 AM EST up reply actions
I dnt see the Bulls would be better than Dwight, DWill AND Lopez (add MarShon to that list)
The magic have been killing teams this year. Dwight last night 20,24,4,4 Rose can’t compete with that
Bingo! Dwight Howard as a Free Agent or Bust!
J-Kidd to D-Will
The good news is that AK will still be available this summer if Howard is a Fail.
But he isn’t getting a 3 yr deal with the Nets at Big money.
Question is does Utah lose their rights to AK now?
That is Nets can no longer do a S&T with Utah?
Last night my predictions were:
Brooks- 21 Points
Hump- 11 Boards
Deron- 7 Assists
Jersey Strong, Brooklyn Readyby BrooklynNets12 on Dec 30, 2011 7:17 PM EST upactions
Brooks had 21
Hump had 13
Deron had 6
I’m good.
Jersey Strong, Brooklyn Ready
by BrooklynNets12 on Dec 31, 2011 10:15 AM EST reply actions
We really have no one at the SF spot bug atleast it isn't Outlaw
But seriously why in the world does everyone on this team hesitate to take the open shot. Morrow Stopped hesitating yesterday and hit some nice shots. S.Williams and Okur still hesitating its costing DWill assist
So can people stop bring him up now as a option for SF?
Dwight or Bust
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lol
I think that’s the point of the thread. He isn’t coming back to the NBA so obviously he isn’t an option any more. Would have been nice if he were a little cheaper.
Yea, but I still bet you your going to see some genius bring him up as a option lol
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by Shameer1016 on Dec 31, 2011 10:48 AM EST up reply actions
XD Last week
Dwight or Bust
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by Shameer1016 on Dec 31, 2011 12:22 PM EST up reply actions
Billy King isn't going to make any move for a mediocre SF for 3 good reasons:
1. He can’t afford to give away any asset that would hurt the chances of get DH.
2. If DH isn’t a Nets player by July 1, then BK has plenty of pieces to get a TOP SF such as Gerald Wallace or Rudy Gay, with his contract that may be too rich for Memphis to afford.
3. AK47 would be an option for this summer if the other options fail.
Billy King isn't going to make any move for a mediocre SF,,,
because he already did so by paying Shawne Williams
by MrDollarBills on Dec 31, 2011 10:43 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Actually, if Nets had signed AK to a 1 year deal, he could have vetoed a trade to ORL.
However, Okur can’t veto a deal, so he is a true expiring.
That is probably the real reason why AK wasn’t already signed up for a 1 year deal for Okur money.
LeBron was a sure thing. Melo was a sure thing. AK47 was a sure thing.
See a pattern? For those of you who are positive Dwight will be a Net, you should be looking at history.
I love the Nets...too bad they don't love me...
by BEB on Dec 31, 2011 10:48 AM EST via iPhone app reply actions 1 recs
based on the law of averages
that actually means our luck will change big time
c'mon man
This is the Nets we are talking about. If we did t have bad luck we wouldn’t have any luck at all.
I love the Nets...too bad they don't love me...
by BEB on Dec 31, 2011 10:55 AM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
I read too much about the Nets' "luck" on here.
It is what it is. Believe it or not, we’re very fortunate to be in a situation like this, not having financial issues and being at the top of the league’s best center’s preference list.
when was lebron a sure thing
Section15 Row 12 Seats 1&2
by Angelo Mihalitsianos on Dec 31, 2011 10:51 AM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
if you were here 2 summers ago reading the posts
He was in the bag according to quite a few here on ND.
I love the Nets...too bad they don't love me...
by BEB on Dec 31, 2011 10:54 AM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
This
I, for one, never thought we’d actually get him. I was hoping for Rudy Gay that summer.
by dwill8brooklynbound on Dec 31, 2011 10:55 AM EST up reply actions
I'm not sure either
but some claim here its always been a plan which I don’t agree with. He wasted time and days meeting with teams and having a hour long special for a pre-meditated move? I don’t buy
Dwight or Bust
Nets lose 33+ games this season.
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by Shameer1016 on Dec 31, 2011 11:40 AM EST up reply actions
Dwight's situation is different from Bron's and Melo's.
He has requested a trade to the Nets. WE are his primary option. With Bron, it was all speculation based on signs and connections here and there, but there was never the clear indication. With Melo, we were led to believe he was headed here because of all the false reports that it was a done deal pending minor negotiations that would work themselves out. AK47 wanted to come here, too, but at the wrong price. We’re obviously willing to pay a huge price for Dwight. Difference scenario.
So why trade for him if he can get him in July?
Dwight or Bust
Nets lose 33+ games this season.
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by Shameer1016 on Dec 31, 2011 12:12 PM EST up reply actions
Because it's a matter of how MUCH he wants to be a Net over other options.
If the Nets are way ahead of other teams on his list, enough for him to be willing to take $30M less, then he would sign with us straight up.
That’s why I’m hoping D-Will has found out/will find out whether Dwight would take that paycut and convey the information to BK, so we know whether to trade for him or wait until the summer.
No player has ever taken a paycut
not even the Heats Big 3
Dwight or Bust
Nets lose 33+ games this season.
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by Shameer1016 on Dec 31, 2011 12:26 PM EST up reply actions
Something sort of
all3 will be making $20 Mill each next season I think.
Dwight or Bust
Nets lose 33+ games this season.
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they did take a pay cut but really more a token one
Miami’s Big 3 are listed at around 16 mil each, when last year’s max was 16.8. They also had to do that to get around the supposed restriction that each team can only have one player signed to the max, or 30% of the cap. So they have 3 players signed to around 28% of the cap.
What’s several hundred thousand dollars between multi-millionaire athlete friends but tens of millions of dollars in pay would be a different thing altogether.
There is no way in Gods green earth that they let that man walk for nothing.
Not even Otis would do that, so if the LA is only offering Bynum they’ll take that.
Other teams are always going to be in the running for Dwight.
Also he wouldn’t leave the Magic with nothing.
by sipitioking on Dec 31, 2011 12:27 PM EST up reply actions
so if he wanted so much money in USA why did he donate all of his CSKA money to charity?
The realist keepin it real amongst the surrealists
I was in Baghdad before these little B.G.'s was in they daddy-bags.
by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Dec 31, 2011 1:42 PM EST reply actions
He only gives away money for Russian causes.
Sounds like a delaying tactic until the right situation arises, like Dwight coming to Nets.
This stinks! The sf spot is our weakest link. We could have really used a starting caliber sf.
I think our team would have made some noise with Kirilinko at the sf and the pieces we have now. We are starting to mesh. Is there anyone out there who can be had that is starting material? Combine Farmar and something.
LETS GO NETS!
Thought so
He’s better off signing a multi-year deal next season than settling for a one year now. He is fragile and who will give him a multi-year deal if he breaks down in the compressed schedule.
63-3
Yeah we need someone to run with Dwill
if we are giving up draft picks then we need to secure our SF for at least three seasons. if there is anyway we can get Wallace or chandler i would do it.
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