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Game 4 - Nets @ Hawks - Friday, December 30, 7:30 p.m.

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The Hawks are 2-0, with an average margin of victory of 32 points. They haven't been behind in 96 minutes of play and exude a confidence that they can play with the big boys in the East. But their wins have come against the Nets and Wizards, two teams dealing with early struggles.

For the Nets, Friday night's contest will mean another back-to-back and their fourth game in five nights and third on the road. With so many of their players joining the team late --Kris Humphries, DeShawn Stevenson and Mehmet Okur not becoming Nets until the last few days before the season-- the Nets have barely had time to practice and virtually no time to adjust to the loss of Brook Lopez. Their only bright spots are the superb early play of Marshon Brooks and the realization that Deron Williams and Anthony Morrow won't play this badly the rest of the year.

Brooks will be playing before family and friends for the first time. Although born in New Jersey, the Nets third leading scorer played his high school ball in nearby Stone Mountain, winning a state championship at Tucker High School.

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ATL won't be expecting much from Nets.

The element of Surprise is our best chance.

by jerry25 on Dec 30, 2011 7:19 AM EST reply actions   1 recs

surprise!

we suck

by DJ HeavyDuty on Dec 30, 2011 9:10 AM EST via Android app up reply actions   2 recs

lol

DWill oop to D12
Otis Smith makes Travis Outlaw look like Avery Johnson

by 3ptChucker on Dec 30, 2011 9:49 AM EST up reply actions  

"Surprise, Surprise...!

"The mind is its own place, and in itself can make a heaven of hell, a hell of heaven"

by aunt-B on Dec 30, 2011 10:28 AM EST up reply actions  

Is Mike going to be back soon?

I don’t recall seeing him lately, yet we are having thousands of posts.

by jerry25 on Dec 30, 2011 11:04 AM EST up reply actions  

M I K E

Has been home the last week without computer access. But never fear. He is on his way this very minute to Florida and for the next 3 weeks he will be burning it up 24/7 on NetsDaily!
Lol, don’t say I didn’t warn you…

"The mind is its own place, and in itself can make a heaven of hell, a hell of heaven"

by aunt-B on Dec 30, 2011 11:34 AM EST up reply actions  

It doesn't show in the box score, but most of the players (except for Hump and DJames) looked better with each game.

The Nets are deep with good bench players (3 at Center now). This will pay off with all the back to backs.
Except for Hump (who is a semi-Robot), no one played big minutes last night, so Nets should be much more prepared that Tuesday game, when Avery gave up in the 2nd half.

I still want the same starting lineup, but of course MarShon needs to come into the game sooner. Stevenson should be first off the bench at SF.

by jerry25 on Dec 30, 2011 7:25 AM EST reply actions  

Man we suck

right now. If Dwill doesn’t drop 20-8 and and 3 turnovers we are done every game. He has to show up. Its that simple.

by Rawdawg05 on Dec 30, 2011 8:13 AM EST up reply actions  

this

20 points from D-Will could have swung that orlando game in another direction.

by MrDollarBills on Dec 30, 2011 8:16 AM EST up reply actions  

and 8-10 assists

but to get assists, your teammates have to make shots. Not happening with this group of bums

by MrDollarBills on Dec 30, 2011 8:17 AM EST up reply actions  

No way dude

Gaines is not starting material . Brooks or Stevenson has to start at guard.

by Zartan on Dec 30, 2011 8:21 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

At SF or SG?

He is getting to be too valuable to risk getting into foul trouble early.

by jerry25 on Dec 30, 2011 7:28 AM EST up reply actions  

does it matter?

I just start Stevenson/Brooks and go for broke

James is awful. I dunno what happened between the washington game and last night but the dude stinks

by MrDollarBills on Dec 30, 2011 8:29 AM EST up reply actions  

well

I look at stevenson as a defender and a guy that will step up to hit a shot or two, not really a scorer.

Morrow is just giving us absolutely nothing. He’s had like one good qtr in 3 games so far.

by MrDollarBills on Dec 30, 2011 8:37 AM EST up reply actions  

Absolutely terrible out there

Hes a specialist who can’t do his speciality.

Section 18, Row 7 at The Rock!
"Your 2010-2011 New Jersey Nets - It Is What It Is"

by eLonepb on Dec 30, 2011 8:44 AM EST up reply actions  

I woke up to confirm that the Knicks got trounced again. Kobe enjoyed showing Melo who is the better player.

The Chuckster now says Knicks aren’t a very good team.

The addition of Chandler has its consequences. Knicks gave up a serviceable Center in Turiaf, lost their 3rd best player and team leader in Billups and with another 58 million in payroll, locked up any freedom in cap space.

Knicks can’t even trade for Steve Nash if they wanted to. Not even close.

by jerry25 on Dec 30, 2011 7:31 AM EST reply actions  

i never though they will be a really good team but i still think they are decent though

baron Davis still hasnt played yet but i still think them giving chandler near max money was dumb and just ruined their flexibility completely

by alboboy on Dec 30, 2011 7:44 AM EST up reply actions  

Does someone know whether Davis has a herniated disc or a bulging disc, and which disc?
Davis, 32, may miss eight to 10 weeks with a herniated disc in his back, the New York Post reported, citing Davis’s agent, Todd Ramasar.

Herniated disc is pretty serious for someone in their early 30s.
Any worsening and surgery could be necessary.
Physical Therapy doesn’t do much to address the problem.

If its only a bulging disc maybe Baron can finish the year.
Still, as Kenny Smith says, Baron hasn’t been his old self for 4-5 years.

by jerry25 on Dec 30, 2011 7:54 AM EST up reply actions  

It the same thing!

L.J had it , galinari had it (surgery !) and tayshaun Prince has it. I have it and you can give five good mins. Before you back gives out.

by Zartan on Dec 30, 2011 9:27 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Its not the same thing according to Radiologists.

They don’t usually do surgery for a Bulging disc, but Do for a herniated disc if it impinges on the nerve. Then surgery is recommended.

The media may not be properly understanding the risk involved.

Does anyone know if it is at the Lumbar Level of spine (less likely to recommend surgery than say Cervical region).?

by jerry25 on Dec 30, 2011 11:03 AM EST up reply actions  

So What

I agree that the Knicks will be a shell of what they thought they could be but right now we need to get our house together.

by Rawdawg05 on Dec 30, 2011 8:15 AM EST up reply actions  

yep

Knicks can bounce back from 1-2. Nets don’t even look like an NBA team right now.

by MrDollarBills on Dec 30, 2011 8:28 AM EST up reply actions  

If this was KnicksDaily, this would be relevant

Section 18, Row 7 at The Rock!
"Your 2010-2011 New Jersey Nets - It Is What It Is"

by eLonepb on Dec 30, 2011 8:32 AM EST up reply actions  

Lots of teams are going to struggle early

lockout, limited training camps and preseason, plus a torrid schedule. It will be a lost season for many teams this year

by Nardfather on Dec 30, 2011 11:36 AM EST up reply actions  

+1

Shakedaddy

by Thebrotherz on Dec 30, 2011 1:48 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions  

We win this game

Morrow will be playing at home also. His shot will come back.

Okur looked more comfortable out there last nite.

Marshon gonna have an off game due too jitters. I expect a good game from Deron Hump Morrow Okur and Stevenson.

Stevenson on Joe Johnson early please!

by power_njerz on Dec 30, 2011 7:33 AM EST reply actions  

jitters?

that kid is playing with more balls right now than Deron Williams and Anthony Morrow put together.

by MrDollarBills on Dec 30, 2011 8:08 AM EST up reply actions  

It's Horner time

Morrow = doghouse
Petro = timeout
Gaines = watch and learn from the great Farmar

Deron – Farmar
DeShawn – Brooks
James – Williams
Hump – Horner
Okur – Williams

"This isn’t fantasy or rotisserie basketball. Why would Denver want Outlaw? Would you?" - Al Iannazzone

by strange-brew on Dec 30, 2011 7:34 AM EST reply actions  

Farmar stinks

the only good thing that he did last night was he attempted to penetrate but his ability to pass is so piss poor that he missed open looks for his teammates.

Get used to losing.

by MrDollarBills on Dec 30, 2011 8:09 AM EST up reply actions  

Ahhh Stevenson

before Williams and maybe a starter.

by Rawdawg05 on Dec 30, 2011 8:17 AM EST up reply actions  

I use shawne williams

as a back up four

he looked better at the stretch 4 spot than at the 3.

by MrDollarBills on Dec 30, 2011 8:17 AM EST up reply actions  

Where are all the Brook Lopez haters now?

without him nothing is going right……and like do our playerss even practice besides brooks everyone has been missing wide open shotttsss and even deron but i have good feeling that this game deron will hit 40 pointss watch out and brooks 20 or wise versaaa

by alboboy on Dec 30, 2011 7:48 AM EST reply actions  

How many games we win with him ?

He’ll get his points and we’d still lose by 20. Lopez is no Dwight Howard.

Don’t know about you but I want to win games, not look good losing.

by Zartan on Dec 30, 2011 9:32 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

This will be a 16 point loss

sorry guys, just don’t see this bunch winning games until D-Will plays like he gives a damn

Kenny Smith and Chuck said last night that you’re all in or you’re not and the way D-Will is playing says that he’s not all in and the Lopez injury may have just killed everything(in terms of Deron playing hard).

Deron’s mindset very well may be “the hell should i play hard for…this team stinks.”

Sorry, but when we have a kid as our leading scorer and our superstar PG not being able to buy a basket or take care of the ball apparently, we’re not winning any games against playoff caliber opponents anytime soon. If it wasn’t for Marshon, the Nets would have been totally unwatchable last night.

by MrDollarBills on Dec 30, 2011 8:06 AM EST reply actions  

To me this is a excuse for him, your a superstar player, he should give a dam. Its not billy fault, if he knew brook was going down, he would have signed Nene. He should be happy he isn’t playing with outlaw or graham or any scrubs. He’s actually playing with good roles players. Starting to believe, billy should have just kept favors and that 3rd pick

by Nets4Life(8) on Dec 30, 2011 9:45 AM EST up reply actions  

certain players on this team looks so out of game shape

how many passes are you going to fumble from DERON WILLIAMS?! Deron’s getting 6 turnovers a game and at least 4 of them has been caused by players not being able to catch the ball. I’ll be frustrated too, regardless of whether i shot good that night or not

by netsnation on Dec 30, 2011 8:15 AM EST reply actions  

NO Sir

2 maybe but he isn’t doing what he needs and can do to make this team better.

by Rawdawg05 on Dec 30, 2011 8:18 AM EST up reply actions  

yeah

i can’t pin all of the TOs on the bums. He is an elite PG who is being reckless as all hell with the ball

by MrDollarBills on Dec 30, 2011 8:19 AM EST up reply actions  

uhhh wasnt he taking it to the paint against howard on multiple possessions trying to find someone who can make a score?

I dont see this Deron negativity when i see him, i think he’s trying to find someone on the roster who can put the ball in the hole and not fumble a pass, he was in the paint too many times to be considered ‘not trying.’ Add that with the lockout and the huge void of a post presence, something Deron has had throughout whole career, is a recipe for disaster.

by netsnation on Dec 30, 2011 8:24 AM EST up reply actions  

eh I agree to a point

but the carelessness with the ball and the shot leave a lot to be desired.

by MrDollarBills on Dec 30, 2011 8:26 AM EST up reply actions  

deron is checking out mentally

he has leverage to do so.

he won’t play hard until the Nets make a trade.

by MrDollarBills on Dec 30, 2011 8:18 AM EST up reply actions  

He doesn't look like he's playing hard

and for a 20+ PPG scorer, my mans should and know different ways to score.

Dwight or Bust
Nets lose 33+ games this season.

One of the BEST game a duo ever had
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3v4GS9t8o8&feature=related

by Shameer1016 on Dec 30, 2011 8:29 AM EST up reply actions  

i take back what I said

to a point.

playing hard also means getting it done even when your shot isn’t falling and taking care of the ball. Williams is not playing to his full capability clearly and he may not care

why kill yourself if everyone else isn’t

by MrDollarBills on Dec 30, 2011 8:30 AM EST up reply actions  

like

its unfair to compare, but take Kidd for instance. If Kidd’s shot wasn’t falling, like it rarely did back when he played for us, he’d do other things to get the team over the hump

granted, this roster is so putrid that Kidd may have said to hell with it all as well

by MrDollarBills on Dec 30, 2011 8:36 AM EST up reply actions  

Kidd made all his teams look nice

the players Kidd played with back then are duds and retired now lol.

Dwight or Bust
Nets lose 33+ games this season.

One of the BEST game a duo ever had
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3v4GS9t8o8&feature=related

by Shameer1016 on Dec 30, 2011 8:40 AM EST up reply actions  

i'm trying to think of a roster that Kidd played with

that was as bad as this trash we’re running out there with now

hell, even when it was Kidd and Carter carrying Rodney Buford, Jacques Vaughn, Scott Padget, etc to a 1st rd appearance WITHOUT RJ’s help in the regular season there was a better effort

the team was also watchable. That’s crazy to me.

by MrDollarBills on Dec 30, 2011 8:43 AM EST up reply actions  

LOL

That was a nice season to sneak in the playoffs. But even with Lopez, this team was not built for a playoff run.

Dwight or Bust
Nets lose 33+ games this season.

One of the BEST game a duo ever had
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3v4GS9t8o8&feature=related

by Shameer1016 on Dec 30, 2011 8:49 AM EST up reply actions  

I think that we would have been

8th seed at best with Brook. It would have opened the floor up a lot. Our offense is literally a waste of time right now

by MrDollarBills on Dec 30, 2011 9:00 AM EST up reply actions  

We contend for a spot, but fall short in my opinion

Now that I am older, its kinda heartbreaking to not go to a game during the playoffs :-(

Dwight or Bust
Nets lose 33+ games this season.

One of the BEST game a duo ever had
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3v4GS9t8o8&feature=related

by Shameer1016 on Dec 30, 2011 9:12 AM EST up reply actions  

XD My mans

I miss Jerome Moiso

Dwight or Bust
Nets lose 33+ games this season.

One of the BEST game a duo ever had
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3v4GS9t8o8&feature=related

by Shameer1016 on Dec 30, 2011 8:49 AM EST up reply actions  

Who else was there?

Jeff McGuiness? Keith Van Horn? Todd. McSomething?

Dwight or Bust
Nets lose 33+ games this season.

One of the BEST game a duo ever had
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3v4GS9t8o8&feature=related

by Shameer1016 on Dec 30, 2011 9:11 AM EST up reply actions  

Disagree

he just goes out there and jacks up jumpers and doesn’t take care of the ball, I understand the talent around him is brutal but he isn’t playing hard enough to set the tone.

by Andres B on Dec 30, 2011 8:50 AM EST up reply actions  

This I agree with

I’ll wait until the end of the season to say where he ranks as a PG and as a player, but my man Rose isn’t chucking anymore lol.

Dwight or Bust
Nets lose 33+ games this season.

One of the BEST game a duo ever had
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3v4GS9t8o8&feature=related

by Shameer1016 on Dec 30, 2011 8:54 AM EST up reply actions  

well

you won’t need to chuck when you have NBA players around you

deron is not playing with NBA players.

by MrDollarBills on Dec 30, 2011 9:02 AM EST up reply actions  

D-Willz isn't even chucking

which is one reason I have a problem with him. He’s really the only guy on this team that averaged 20+ Point before, and he looks like Devin Harris right now lol.

Dwight or Bust
Nets lose 33+ games this season.

One of the BEST game a duo ever had
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3v4GS9t8o8&feature=related

by Shameer1016 on Dec 30, 2011 9:14 AM EST up reply actions  

And you guys better hope

that the Nets aren’t too hung over to show up against Cleveland on sunday because looking at the schedule that may be our last chance to get a win in awhile, and imo I think the Cavs can beat us.

by MrDollarBills on Dec 30, 2011 8:34 AM EST reply actions  

Poscards from the edge...

The only 3 "players" out there tonight: (Okur, Stevenson, Brooks)
The problem: (Old, Crazy, Rookie) – So unlikely to get consistency there.

Morrow is NOT a starter in this league (And b/c of his "style" might not be much of a bench guy either – no energy; no-defense)

Deron Williams has hands like Rocks, is a Turnover machine, and Seems to be a Chucker.
Not for 1 game should ANYONE…EVER make me miss Devin Harris…

“The NBA game s soo much easier when you spot teams 20 point leads in the first quarter”
- Avery “Genius” Johnson

by Jron on Dec 30, 2011 8:36 AM EST reply actions  

Oh I agree...I hate Harris's "game"

But to make me think of him for one night, means Deron Williams is either dialing it in and or sending a message. It’s like he had a Kidd-“migraine.”
He has played 8 out of 10 Quarters like a clown so far.
And I thought he was the guy who was in tip top shape from Turkey ball this fall, hmmmm…

by Jron on Dec 30, 2011 8:41 AM EST up reply actions  

I agree

he’s played horribly.

Still doesn’t make me think about that bum Harris though

by MrDollarBills on Dec 30, 2011 8:45 AM EST up reply actions  

lmao

what killed me last night is you had people crawling out of the woodworks saying “Deron is overrated!! Harris was better!!”

like seriously?

by MrDollarBills on Dec 30, 2011 8:41 AM EST up reply actions  

No way is Harris better, but

Deron did not seem to be at the top (or middle) of his game against Atlanta. Last night he was running more, pushing the pace more, getting into the paint, but the TOs and poor shooting were killing us. He is making a lot of $. He’s got to be a professional, go out there, and play at the level he’s capable of playing at.

by panet on Dec 30, 2011 8:43 AM EST up reply actions  

Harris looked better at this point last year

I think it’s more just a knock on Deron’s level of play when people are saying Harris played better. He needs to get it together, and fast.

No excuses. He should be in more shape than anyone else on the team because of Turkey.

Section 18, Row 7 at The Rock!
"Your 2010-2011 New Jersey Nets - It Is What It Is"

by eLonepb on Dec 30, 2011 8:47 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

yep

and he should be leading by example. He hasn’t done that either.

by MrDollarBills on Dec 30, 2011 8:59 AM EST up reply actions  

On ths short season's sample size... yes

And as a Short-term memory… you are born with one as a Nets Fan…
It’s the only way to survive. ; )

by Jron on Dec 30, 2011 8:42 AM EST up reply actions  

This is just crazy talk about Morrow

He’s just the scapegoat because this team sucks.

Dwight or Bust
Nets lose 33+ games this season.

One of the BEST game a duo ever had
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3v4GS9t8o8&feature=related

by Shameer1016 on Dec 30, 2011 8:41 AM EST up reply actions  

No, it's not. He is a limited, 1 dimensional player.

And for the most part, only when served things on dinner plates, will he produce.
AND if his shot is “on.”

by Jron on Dec 30, 2011 8:43 AM EST up reply actions  

Morrow is part of the reason

why this team sucks. The dude cannot buy a bucket and when he is playing like that he is a liability on the court because he does not provide anything else.

He is a one dimensional player. I like the guy, but he needs to step his game up. His body language was god awful last night.

by MrDollarBills on Dec 30, 2011 8:47 AM EST up reply actions  

If this team depends so much on a 1 dimensional player, how good are we again?

He’s just a scapegoat right now, he is arguably the reason we beat the Wizards the first game. If you really want to blame someone, blame Leader #8

Dwight or Bust
Nets lose 33+ games this season.

One of the BEST game a duo ever had
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3v4GS9t8o8&feature=related

by Shameer1016 on Dec 30, 2011 8:51 AM EST up reply actions  

he is ‘part of the reason shameer, ’part’.

Not the entire reason. Every player on this roster has to be held accountable for only showing up collectively for two and a half quarters in three games.

by MrDollarBills on Dec 30, 2011 8:58 AM EST up reply actions  

Yes, he was part of the reason

but the most important part. I expect Hump and D-Willz to show up everynight, but my man Ammo is looking less like Ammo and more like an empty clip.

Dwight or Bust
Nets lose 33+ games this season.

One of the BEST game a duo ever had
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3v4GS9t8o8&feature=related

by Shameer1016 on Dec 30, 2011 9:15 AM EST up reply actions  

No he is not

He was never a starter. That was clear last year. He is along the lines of Korver, Capono, house and posey. Guys with the primary role of setting themselves up behind the 3pt line and just shooting. That is it.

by SIC One on Dec 30, 2011 9:52 AM EST up reply actions  

OT: anyone else concerned that Orlando is open trading D12 to a rental team.

I know it’s been discussed here with the potential ATL deal but this could be a distinct possibility. Maybe not Atlanta, but somewhere not named New Jersey or LA.

I love the Nets...too bad they don't love me...

by BEB on Dec 30, 2011 8:47 AM EST via iPhone app reply actions  

give up more talent??

what talent?

besides Brook and Marshon, we have nothing else to give them aside from picks and cap relief

by MrDollarBills on Dec 30, 2011 8:53 AM EST up reply actions  

it has been tiring

watching the Nets over the past 5 years to see incompetence and d-league level play.

by MrDollarBills on Dec 30, 2011 8:54 AM EST up reply actions  

I was using the term loosely

More so sacrificing a higher number of picks to facilitate a 3 or 4 way deal. I hate to make another thread about Dwight but this news is disconcerting.

I love the Nets...too bad they don't love me...

by BEB on Dec 30, 2011 8:57 AM EST via iPhone app up reply actions  

well

as long as he’s still open to signing with us cool

orlando would probably do that just to stick it to us though.

by MrDollarBills on Dec 30, 2011 8:47 AM EST up reply actions  

I feel that Orlando really wants to F the Nets over big time.

I love the Nets...too bad they don't love me...

by BEB on Dec 30, 2011 8:49 AM EST via iPhone app up reply actions  

Stop it

They aren’t going to make a horrible move out of spite. Eventually they’ll take whatever package gives them the best offer. If it’s the Nets, cool. If not, Deron is gone.

Section 18, Row 7 at The Rock!
"Your 2010-2011 New Jersey Nets - It Is What It Is"

by eLonepb on Dec 30, 2011 8:50 AM EST up reply actions  

no he's not.

Deron and Dwight want to play together.

Who can sign both?

Why would Deron leave a city he loves and his new marketing contracts to take less money when we can sign Dwight?

I’m really starting to think Dwight is coming here no matter what.

Now I’m getting greedy and hope the Magic sit on him so we can keep Brook.

by KiddShizzle on Dec 30, 2011 8:53 AM EST up reply actions  

I think that they want to play together too

its obvious, but I’m not arrogant enough to proclaim that pairing those two up in BK is a sure bet.

by MrDollarBills on Dec 30, 2011 8:57 AM EST up reply actions  

with us

what can go wrong, WILL go wrong

look at what happened with Brook

by MrDollarBills on Dec 30, 2011 8:57 AM EST up reply actions  

Yup

Section 18, Row 7 at The Rock!
"Your 2010-2011 New Jersey Nets - It Is What It Is"

by eLonepb on Dec 30, 2011 8:58 AM EST up reply actions  

I know why you want to say that

but I’m a “if the clippers can get over the hump with sterling still there…”

kind of guy. I’m not a loser. DWill and Avery and Billy are not losers.

I refuse to accept a losers fate, or a losers mentality.

by KiddShizzle on Dec 30, 2011 8:59 AM EST up reply actions  

oh?

you really think that your mentality has some type of say in this matter?

You can think positive and that’s fine, but for others and myself, when we step outside and see a pile of dog turds on the pavement, we don’t proclaim that there’s a bar of gold on the ground, but a piece of

by MrDollarBills on Dec 30, 2011 9:06 AM EST up reply actions  

neither do I bro

but I dont assume there will a pile of “dog turds” before I get outside.

Your pessimism is not reality and if the Mavs thought like you, NO WAY they have rings right now.

by KiddShizzle on Dec 30, 2011 9:08 AM EST up reply actions  

Yeah

They wouldn’t move Howard out of spite. That would be crazy on their part

by cprash on Dec 30, 2011 9:36 AM EST via Android app up reply actions  

but would they not move him out of spite?

I love the Nets...too bad they don't love me...

by BEB on Dec 30, 2011 9:58 AM EST via iPhone app up reply actions  

honestly, if they see a beneficial package and know he is leaving im sure they’ll take it. anything os possible though including the owner wildcard.

by cprash on Dec 30, 2011 10:02 AM EST via Android app up reply actions  

Dwill is trying

There is no rhythm at all to this team, and he feeds off the rhythm of the team. DWIll made some sweet moves last night but couldn’t even get that floater to drop when he was 12 inches from the rim.

DWill
Stevenson
James
Hump
Okur

I know a lot of you are down on James, but he’s a second year guy and was hurt most of last year.

He scored our first bucket because he can actually hit a mid-j but doesn’t take bad shots. It’s no just him who’s missed passes from DWill.

We need DWill at the point creating, stevenson playing D and shooting open shots with conifdence.

James and Hump give up hustle, D, and fninshers.

Okur is beginning to get comfortable.

Bring Gaines, Brooks Shawne and Sheldon off the bench.

We can win. And we will.

by KiddShizzle on Dec 30, 2011 8:47 AM EST reply actions  

oh wow you just reminded me of

that one move that he had last night where he split the defense at the foul line and made the sick lay up at the basket

that was so beautiful.

by MrDollarBills on Dec 30, 2011 8:49 AM EST up reply actions  

he's trying

Nobody wants to play that badly in front a respected friend (D12). Ill bet Deron was very embarrassed in his own play last night.

by KiddShizzle on Dec 30, 2011 8:50 AM EST up reply actions  

he should be

he was terrible for the most part.

by MrDollarBills on Dec 30, 2011 8:52 AM EST up reply actions  

but

lets face facts: this team is bad. We aren’t going to win with a roster this unbalanced.

These guys need wide open looks to be effective and they’re not getting them.

I also put a lot of this at Avery’s feet because his offensive philosphy is just as bad if not not worse than Lawrence Frank’s

its crazy how Mark Jackson has his boy in GS running hard. We can’t even find guys that can be bothered to catch a ball

get used to losing bro.

by MrDollarBills on Dec 30, 2011 8:51 AM EST up reply actions  

I think you guys are really

unerestimating the fact that we’ve only practiced for a week before the season, and it was all centered around Brook.

No team has had the kind of turnover and loss of a player we have. It will take time to figure out how to fix it.

I’m glad Avery’s being proactive. I thought last nights lineup, was a good move, it just didn’t work that well.

Doesn’t mean he won’t find the right mix.

by KiddShizzle on Dec 30, 2011 8:58 AM EST up reply actions  

Why is ND double posting all mine?

My words might be truth, but they aren’t THAT good, haha.
Seriously, wtf.

by Jron on Dec 30, 2011 8:47 AM EST reply actions  

I don't see double posts, so maybe your words are only half truth.

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by eLonepb on Dec 30, 2011 8:49 AM EST up reply actions  

Don't kid you self lol

otherwise I should see quadruple of my posts XD

Dwight or Bust
Nets lose 33+ games this season.

One of the BEST game a duo ever had
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3v4GS9t8o8&feature=related

by Shameer1016 on Dec 30, 2011 8:52 AM EST up reply actions  

Anyone else was encouraged to see Memo hit shots in the 2nd half?

As bad as we have looked, things are coming together slowly in some fronts, guys like Stevenson and Okur can be factors for this team.

by Andres B on Dec 30, 2011 8:53 AM EST reply actions  

yes!

"Beware the Ides of March."

by Andy. on Dec 30, 2011 8:57 AM EST up reply actions  

I was

I didn’t think that he was that bad last night. Okur, DeShawn, and Swag all played decent ball

by MrDollarBills on Dec 30, 2011 9:21 AM EST up reply actions  

Deron always had help in Utah.

Deron doesn’t have a post presence to take the pressure off. Until Lopez returns…He needs to take the ball inside himself and challenge the defense….then dish it out to his shooters.

He was more aggressive in the second half…with some nice layups.

They should use Damion James at the post more often.

"Beware the Ides of March."

by Andy. on Dec 30, 2011 9:09 AM EST up reply actions  

do you think

that deron will want to kill himself to carry this roster

I do not.

With each loss, his mind will wander further and further away

by MrDollarBills on Dec 30, 2011 9:13 AM EST up reply actions  

that shouldn't matter

If you’re a professional athlete your main objective should be to play hard and try to win. Players are so entitled nowadays it’s ridiculous. He’s going to have no respect from his teammates regardless of what he might think of them.

I love the Nets...too bad they don't love me...

by BEB on Dec 30, 2011 9:24 AM EST via iPhone app up reply actions  

The Nets are 1-2

not 0-18.

"It's as sweet as it ever was, I'll tell you. Now, hopefully, we started something and we can win some more championships, but we're going to enjoy this one right now. Have a little champagne." --Julius Erving, May 12, 1976, ABA champion Nets locker room.

by Net Income on Dec 30, 2011 9:13 AM EST up reply actions  

and when that 1-2

turns into 1-5 by next week, what will we say then?

The slippery slope is right there. This team has only showed up to play 2 and a half qtrs out of 10.

Teams with actual NBA talent, like the Knicks and Mavs can survive a bad start.

a team that has a 20ppg center sitting at home with his foot in a boot reading comic books and sipping warm cocoa, a superstar PG that may have already mentally checked out until he gets what he wants, and a d-league level supporting cast cannot survive a horrific start.

by MrDollarBills on Dec 30, 2011 9:16 AM EST up reply actions  

It's Sad but true

This is one of the worst Nets teams ever. Unless Brooks becomes a 20 point scorer we are doomed.

Okur+Petro+Sheldon has to be one of the worst center combos in the NBA

by DWILL-of-the-GODZ on Dec 30, 2011 10:05 AM EST up reply actions  

Doesn't mean that can't go 1-17

Dwight or Bust
Nets lose 33+ games this season.

One of the BEST game a duo ever had
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3v4GS9t8o8&feature=related

by Shameer1016 on Dec 30, 2011 9:16 AM EST up reply actions  

Who's with me?

You with me cprash? lol

Dwight or Bust
Nets lose 33+ games this season.

One of the BEST game a duo ever had
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3v4GS9t8o8&feature=related

by Shameer1016 on Dec 30, 2011 9:41 AM EST up reply actions  

haha. not at all, my friend :)

by cprash on Dec 30, 2011 9:44 AM EST via Android app up reply actions  

XD Worth a shot lol

Dwight or Bust
Nets lose 33+ games this season.

One of the BEST game a duo ever had
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3v4GS9t8o8&feature=related

by Shameer1016 on Dec 30, 2011 10:14 AM EST up reply actions  

Fun fact

Dont know if this was posted already, but did you know Besiktas and Brooklyn are sister cities/district partnerships? It blew my mind when i stumbled on that yesterday

by cprash on Dec 30, 2011 9:43 AM EST via Android app up reply actions  

…this was supposed to not be a reply. i blame the mobile app.

by cprash on Dec 30, 2011 9:45 AM EST via Android app up reply actions  

Yup and look awful

We aren’t losing games by 5 points NI. We are getting run out of the building. The losing culture can absolutely effect the way players play the game, and my point is that that needs to change through Deron’s leadership.

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by eLonepb on Dec 30, 2011 9:17 AM EST up reply actions  

Yeah

this is exactly what I was going to bring up

Last night the Mavs lost their 3rd game in a row but they fought to the bitter end

the Nets have been blown off the floor twice now and they were in serious danger of getting destroyed by the Wizards had Williams not stepped his game up.

by MrDollarBills on Dec 30, 2011 9:18 AM EST up reply actions  

the product is unwatchable

and the overall effort is piss poor, regardless of the talent.

Williams is displaying ZERO leadership on that court.

I’m prepared for the fact that the Nets may have the league’s worst record by the end of January.

by MrDollarBills on Dec 30, 2011 9:20 AM EST up reply actions  

He just has to carry the team

Act like he cares, act like he wants to go to war with these guys rather than hang out with his buddy Dwight.

I think he’ll get it together, but I get the feeling it’s all just a holding pattern and the team in playing like it.

Once shots start going down, maybe that will change things.

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by eLonepb on Dec 30, 2011 9:20 AM EST up reply actions  

maybe

but it’s not really cool that a rookie from Providence is leading by example while the superstar we’re coddling and begging not to leave cannot be bothered to take care of the ball or do what needs to be done offensively even if his shot isn’t falling

meh. Whatever. We stink, he isn’t going to kill himself.

by MrDollarBills on Dec 30, 2011 9:23 AM EST up reply actions  

and who knows how messed up the locker room chemistry is when you have a superstar that looks upon the roster with disdain, voices it publicly, and doesn’t play up to his ability

Kidd wanted out and dogged it at the end of his nets tenure too, but can I say that he was as bad as Williams has been so far? No.

by MrDollarBills on Dec 30, 2011 9:25 AM EST up reply actions  

I would start this today

Dwill
Brooks
Stevenson
James
Humphries

Play small against Hawks…Then bring Okur, Morrow and Gaines off the bench.

"Beware the Ides of March."

by Andy. on Dec 30, 2011 8:57 AM EST reply actions  

does it matter

we got annihilated by them last time out

try anything. line up changes. new rotations. grenades. ANYTHING

by MrDollarBills on Dec 30, 2011 9:17 AM EST up reply actions  

True

But i rather we stick with memo and hump, this is too small of a lineup.. James would lose every rebound to josh and it’s game over with their bigs dominating.. Dwill/marshon/stevenson/hump/memo would be my lineup like most here

by BkNetsfan on Dec 30, 2011 9:20 AM EST up reply actions  

Way to small

Hawks have a field day with Smith and Horford. Hell even Jason Collins might have a career high 10-10

Dwight or Bust
Nets lose 33+ games this season.

One of the BEST game a duo ever had
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3v4GS9t8o8&feature=related

by Shameer1016 on Dec 30, 2011 9:17 AM EST up reply actions  

That is a variation of the lineup I would use

Dwill
Brooks
Stevenson
Hump
Okur

is what I would do.

by SIC One on Dec 30, 2011 9:54 AM EST up reply actions  

Does anybody know why

Farmar is in Avery’s doghouse…

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by NDTony on Dec 30, 2011 8:59 AM EST reply actions  

maybe because he doesn't give a ish

We were down by double digits
In the fourth and he’s laughing on the bench. That irked me. I hate that.

I love the Nets...too bad they don't love me...

by BEB on Dec 30, 2011 9:02 AM EST via iPhone app up reply actions  

He is still better than Gaines

Should be a reason why Avery keeps him in the bench.

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by NDTony on Dec 30, 2011 9:08 AM EST up reply actions  

Everyone's getting so high on Brooks...

Myself included… But don’t get too attached. Even if he’s in the running for ROY, he’s gone as soon as Otis calls. You can bet that Billy’s not gonna play hardball. It’ll be Melo all over again… “Sure, you dragged us along all season and made us look like fools, but we’ll still give up whoever you want and find 2 more teams to help make it happen!” Enjoy Orlando, Marshon!

by JohnFromLongIsland on Dec 30, 2011 9:02 AM EST via mobile reply actions  

i fear you're right

proky will have to get on his jet to announce we’re out of the dwight deal to try to get the team to focus

by drmagoo on Dec 30, 2011 9:08 AM EST up reply actions  

I don't doubt it

I just think we either have SWAG and Brook and a free agent Dwight who says he wants to play here….

..OR..

…we get Dwight this season. It’ll be a rough 2 months. But those are not bad options.

by KiddShizzle on Dec 30, 2011 9:14 AM EST up reply actions  

you assume

that Otis will trade with us

I still don’t have confidence in that happening

Brook’s foot is in a boot. That killed everything.

by MrDollarBills on Dec 30, 2011 9:27 AM EST up reply actions  

Otis never wanted Brook...

I think by March, it’ll be Marshon that’s the coveted centerpiece of that deal. We won’t get to keep Brook, but Billy will probably end up giving him to a 3rd or 4th team in one of his favorite complicated trade scenarios.

by JohnFromLongIsland on Dec 30, 2011 10:02 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

IMO Brooks won't be the centerpiece I think thats a stretch

But I think what might happen is we trade Brook to another tam and get something Orlando wants that way and use the picks to add another player.

"We're not there yet, but we're going somewhere," Johnson said. "And we're going to Brooklyn. We're not going to contract. We're going to Brooklyn."

by Atronic on Dec 30, 2011 3:35 PM EST up reply actions  

this season is definitely going to favor

teams that have continuity from last season. there is zero time to practice!

"A little boy went out to play. When he opened his door, he saw the world. As he passed through the doorway, he caused a reflection. Evil was born. Evil was born, and followed the boy."

by jrtallent on Dec 30, 2011 9:04 AM EST reply actions  

Yeah

It’s also going to favor teams that don’t lose their dominating 20PPG offensive machine for months.

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by eLonepb on Dec 30, 2011 9:05 AM EST up reply actions  

haha

yes, that too. ARGH..

HOWEVER, when Brook does return, we’ll have both him and Okur. that should be nice.

"A little boy went out to play. When he opened his door, he saw the world. As he passed through the doorway, he caused a reflection. Evil was born. Evil was born, and followed the boy."

by jrtallent on Dec 30, 2011 9:09 AM EST up reply actions  

we'll have to cuz billy's all in with the D12/dwill gamble

i wouldn’t be. too risky. i’d be looking to trade dwill, i think after 66 games with this bunch he’ll be running out the door. plus, he turns the ball over a lot since avery took the sloan’s reigns off of him

by drmagoo on Dec 30, 2011 9:15 AM EST up reply actions  

well, the Nets are doing better than the Mavs and Celtics

and making crazy assessments about Deron Williams and Anthony Morrow, who are known quantities in this league, is ridiculous.

If Brook Lopez didn’t go down, the Nets could very well be 2-1.

"It's as sweet as it ever was, I'll tell you. Now, hopefully, we started something and we can win some more championships, but we're going to enjoy this one right now. Have a little champagne." --Julius Erving, May 12, 1976, ABA champion Nets locker room.

by Net Income on Dec 30, 2011 9:12 AM EST reply actions  

I don't see the value in evaluating our team's status

So early ino a season when we all know that the effects of the lock out are being felt across the board. Some players fell out of shape over the long summer lay off. Some players haven’t gotten back into their groove, or back up to the pace of NBA basketball due to a shortened preseason and a high turnover rate in the personnel department.

As far as long term aspirations are concerned, I don’t think anything has changed since the season started

by Chakroot on Dec 30, 2011 9:15 AM EST up reply actions  

this is kind of dishonest imo NI

did you see Dallas vs. OKC last night? The Nets have not played ANYWHERE near the level that Dallas did last night that required KD to hit a sweet long bomb at the buzzer to put them away

by MrDollarBills on Dec 30, 2011 9:28 AM EST up reply actions  

There old as hell

and got older with Carter and Odom lol

Dwight or Bust
Nets lose 33+ games this season.

One of the BEST game a duo ever had
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3v4GS9t8o8&feature=related

by Shameer1016 on Dec 30, 2011 9:31 AM EST up reply actions  

That team is just disorganized

They have a pass since they lost many key players, and didn’t really have training camp to figure stuff out. But they need to start booing Carter if he’s going to start, because we all know how well he plays when he gets Boo’d.

Dwight or Bust
Nets lose 33+ games this season.

One of the BEST game a duo ever had
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3v4GS9t8o8&feature=related

by Shameer1016 on Dec 30, 2011 9:42 AM EST up reply actions  

yeah

and they would stomp us unmercifully if we played them

by MrDollarBills on Dec 30, 2011 9:34 AM EST up reply actions  

NI are you suggesting the current Nets are BETTER than current Mavs or Celtics???

Do you think Deron thinks the current Nets are better than the current Mavs?!?!?

DWill oop to D12
Otis Smith makes Travis Outlaw look like Avery Johnson

by 3ptChucker on Dec 30, 2011 10:14 AM EST up reply actions  

I agree with Josh Robbins here (for once)
A potential Nets-Magic deal in the future hit a major roadblock after Lopez suffered a stress fracture in his right foot and underwent surgery to correct the problem. The Magic already preferred Andrew Bynum to Lopez anyway, and Lopez’ foot problem is now a significant red flag to Magic officials.

The Nets simply have no other assets of note aside from Williams himself, and Williams appears to want to lure another superstar to join him on the Nets or sign a free-agent deal with the Mavericks over the summer.

Free agency is our hope if Magic don’t want to rebuild. Lopez will be totally out of game shape when he gets back, our draft pick might be great but Magic want vets, and we’ll see where Marshon stands.

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by eLonepb on Dec 30, 2011 9:12 AM EST reply actions  

How does he 'appear' to want to sign in Dallas?

I haven’t seen/herd anything that would make this a true statement

by Chakroot on Dec 30, 2011 9:17 AM EST up reply actions  

I think everyone knows it

Ive certainly always assumed it.

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by eLonepb on Dec 30, 2011 9:18 AM EST up reply actions  

But we can't assume Dwight will be a Net

Either through trade or free agency? I don’t think deron has “Dwight or Dallas” fever, at least not yet. He never once said “trade me to my home state” while playing in utah

by Chakroot on Dec 30, 2011 9:19 AM EST up reply actions  

Sure we can

If Dwight goes to free agency, I think he’ll be a Brooklyn Net 100%. The quoted post is in regards to a trade.

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by eLonepb on Dec 30, 2011 9:22 AM EST up reply actions  

If we take Dwight as a Net as a given condition

Then mentioning deron Williams going to any other team is moot. I still don’t believe that without Dwight, deron is gone. But I may be in the minority with that opinion.

by Chakroot on Dec 30, 2011 9:25 AM EST up reply actions  

If we were a playoff team, I'd agree

But if we are getting blown out every night like we almost have 3 games in a row? Hard to see him loving that idea, per his own words.

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by eLonepb on Dec 30, 2011 9:27 AM EST up reply actions  

The ends will justify the means

I think an All Star point guard can handle losing if there’s a light at the end o the tunnel.

D.wade didn’t run home to Chicago after several awful seasons. He recruited the best player in the game to join him

by Chakroot on Dec 30, 2011 9:30 AM EST up reply actions  

Well, Wade is a much better player

but I agree Deron doesn’t seem to give a damn right now.

by Andres B on Dec 30, 2011 9:31 AM EST up reply actions  

and that's why

I see him hauling ass out of here if we cannot get dwight

by MrDollarBills on Dec 30, 2011 9:33 AM EST up reply actions  

He didn't drop 50 points in turkey in his first three games

It took time, and the te eventually won 10 straight (I think) and then dwill blew up for 50.

If he’s STILL playing like this in February, I’ll agree with you guys, but right now, he’s still getting settled

by Chakroot on Dec 30, 2011 9:36 AM EST up reply actions  

I'm tired with the Oversea's talk

many here said he should have an advantage, well where is it? There is no level of play higher than the NBA so the rest is irrelevant.

Dwight or Bust
Nets lose 33+ games this season.

One of the BEST game a duo ever had
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3v4GS9t8o8&feature=related

by Shameer1016 on Dec 30, 2011 9:44 AM EST up reply actions  

I think it did him a disservice

Slower pace, less athleticism and talent in his opposition, and something often overlooked: they use a different basketball!! Of course his shooting will be off.

You think CC Sabathia would be an ace pitcher throwing a softball?

by Chakroot on Dec 30, 2011 9:52 AM EST up reply actions  

Bingo

start picking up and continuing bad habits.

Dwight or Bust
Nets lose 33+ games this season.

One of the BEST game a duo ever had
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3v4GS9t8o8&feature=related

by Shameer1016 on Dec 30, 2011 10:19 AM EST up reply actions  

When Dwight requests a trade to the Nets

it’s better to assume he won’t be traded here.

When Deron gives no indication whatsoever he has interest of playing w/ the Mavs and every indication he likes the Nets and the area, assume he’s going to the Mavs.

by CurlyBeast on Dec 30, 2011 9:30 AM EST up reply actions  

really?

why was he chilling with the Mavs after they won a championship last year

that guy is keeping his options open, and i don’t blame him one bit

by MrDollarBills on Dec 30, 2011 9:32 AM EST up reply actions  

He was rooting for them against the Heat.

Isn’t Dallas his hometown? Doesn’t mean he likes the future of the team or wants to spend the rest of his career there.

It could mean that, but there’s been no indication whatsover that it does. Like you said, you’re just assuming.

Meanwhile, it’s been reported (meaning, this probably did happen, and you don’t have to assume) that Howard requested a trade to the Nets.

by CurlyBeast on Dec 30, 2011 9:44 AM EST up reply actions  

uh
Isn’t Dallas his hometown? Doesn’t mean he likes the future of the team or wants to spend the rest of his career there.

you’re assuming as well

by MrDollarBills on Dec 30, 2011 9:50 AM EST up reply actions  

I didn't assume.

Did you conveniently ignore the next paragraph?

It could mean that, but there’s been no indication whatsover that it does. Like you said, you’re just assuming.

I left open the possibility that it could mean that, but there has been no indication that it does.

by CurlyBeast on Dec 30, 2011 9:56 AM EST up reply actions  

After Lopez went down

My optimism about our package faltered. Dwight wants Nets, Nets want Dwight. I hope it works out because we are all in on it.

Section 18, Row 7 at The Rock!
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by eLonepb on Dec 30, 2011 9:34 AM EST up reply actions  

If I were Orlando

I wouldn’t trade for a player coming off of a stress fracture.

by MrDollarBills on Dec 30, 2011 9:38 AM EST up reply actions  

Unless he looked back in old form

Which is possible.

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by eLonepb on Dec 30, 2011 9:39 AM EST up reply actions  

Other teams might though.

For instance, since Josh Smith doesn’t want to be in Atlanta anyway, why not take a risk on a young prolific low post scorer?

There are still other ways it can be worked out, even if Orlando wants nothing to do with Brook Lopez. Billy King will have to get crafty.

by CurlyBeast on Dec 30, 2011 9:47 AM EST up reply actions  

wonderful

I never assumed it.

why isn’t that just as possible?

by KiddShizzle on Dec 30, 2011 9:21 AM EST up reply actions  

so now you think he's going to Big D?

I love the Nets...too bad they don't love me...

by BEB on Dec 30, 2011 9:26 AM EST via iPhone app up reply actions  

If we don't get Dwight

And the Nets are as bad as we’ve looked all season? Yes.

Section 18, Row 7 at The Rock!
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by eLonepb on Dec 30, 2011 9:27 AM EST up reply actions  

I don't get why the Mavericks though

but I so see it as an option. I mean why would Mav’s also be on Howards list? There might be a plan between Howard and Williams after all.

Dwight or Bust
Nets lose 33+ games this season.

One of the BEST game a duo ever had
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3v4GS9t8o8&feature=related

by Shameer1016 on Dec 30, 2011 9:19 AM EST up reply actions  

sure

I would want to go to a team with NO YOUTH, NO good draft picks, and in a market where I lose a lot of potential endorsements, too.

who wouldn’t?

by KiddShizzle on Dec 30, 2011 9:23 AM EST up reply actions  

But that team has a winning culture, a proven Owner, and is home to one of them

Nets haven’t proved anything other than they only get good players via trades.

Dwight or Bust
Nets lose 33+ games this season.

One of the BEST game a duo ever had
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3v4GS9t8o8&feature=related

by Shameer1016 on Dec 30, 2011 9:24 AM EST up reply actions  

As of last season

And that could prove to have been a fluke. They’re not some dynasty like the Lakers or Celtics. They won a Chip, even though I saw Miami GIVING them a Chip

by Chakroot on Dec 30, 2011 9:26 AM EST up reply actions  

Besides the Championship

there 50+ win per season streak is impressive, especially in the West.

Dwight or Bust
Nets lose 33+ games this season.

One of the BEST game a duo ever had
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3v4GS9t8o8&feature=related

by Shameer1016 on Dec 30, 2011 9:33 AM EST up reply actions  

He wants to win

Dirk + Deron + Dwight is an awesome trio even with an old Dirk. Once Dirk retires you still have Dwight and Deron.

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by eLonepb on Dec 30, 2011 9:24 AM EST up reply actions  

Yes it is

Would take creativity and players taking less, but it is possible.

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by eLonepb on Dec 30, 2011 9:32 AM EST up reply actions  

Much less

They would have to forego max contracts and several marketing options.

Why not forsake less money and play in a bigger market with Brook, Brooks and draft picks.

No logic unless they are in love with huge german guys.

by KiddShizzle on Dec 30, 2011 9:35 AM EST up reply actions  

Winning. Period.

To just discard the idea as impossible is ignoring reality. Their best shot at everything, I agree with you in here. But the balls need to bounce our way and the first one didn’t when Lopez broke his foot.

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by eLonepb on Dec 30, 2011 9:38 AM EST up reply actions  

is here*

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by eLonepb on Dec 30, 2011 9:38 AM EST up reply actions  

The Mavs are a winning organization

with a superstar in place with an aggressive owner that more than likely tampered with Williams last year when he was visiting Dallas’ locker room when they won

keep thinking there’s no way in hell. I’ve seen just about it all with this franchise

by MrDollarBills on Dec 30, 2011 9:40 AM EST up reply actions  

I dunno

Hard to believe Dwill would uproot his family again AND take a pay cut to play in another city.

by cprash on Dec 30, 2011 9:48 AM EST via Android app up reply actions  

But Dwight will in free agency?

Personally I think so, but if he would, why not Deron?

Section 18, Row 7 at The Rock!
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by eLonepb on Dec 30, 2011 9:57 AM EST up reply actions  

Put it like this

IF both of them going to Dallas was both possible and something they’d be interested in, why aren’t the Mavs Dwight’s first choice? WE are, that must tell you something.

by Andres B on Dec 30, 2011 9:27 AM EST up reply actions  

Whatever the reason is (and I agree money is a big factor)

my point is if both make it to free agency and want to pair up with each other they’ll choose BKN over Dallas, as us being Dwight’s first option tells you, so I’m not concerned about that.

Dallas has no chance at getting either via trade, just free agency and if we are their first option where does that leave them?

by Andres B on Dec 30, 2011 9:43 AM EST up reply actions  

Definitely BK over Dallas in free agency

No question.

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by eLonepb on Dec 30, 2011 9:44 AM EST up reply actions  

people just assume this instead of looking at the big picture

30M more, a 24 yr old Brook and tons of cap space is more attractive than a 34 yr old Dirk when you’re gonna commit long term.

by Andres B on Dec 30, 2011 9:23 AM EST up reply actions  

Which is why Deron has gotten Dwight to agree to a trade here

But if Dwight gets to the Lakers, is Deron sticking around after this awful season?

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by eLonepb on Dec 30, 2011 9:25 AM EST up reply actions  

nope

people see what they want to see

by MrDollarBills on Dec 30, 2011 9:41 AM EST up reply actions  

the Mavs are having an awfull season too and they won't be better

we at least have an excuse

I just don’t see how going to DAL can be attractive at all when thinking long term.

So yes, even if we miss out on Dwight I’m willing to bet Deron would choose us over Dallas.

by Andres B on Dec 30, 2011 9:45 AM EST up reply actions  

oh?

you didn’t see Deron in Dallas’ locker room last year after they won?

he sees Dallas as an organization that is done it and puts teams around their superstar.

The Nets?

by MrDollarBills on Dec 30, 2011 9:29 AM EST up reply actions  

this is silly

I don’t wish anything like this on a man, but Bynum could just as well go down this year with knee issues, or he could not play very well, or he could play really well.

In any of those cases, it’s unlikely the LAL trade both gasol and bynum.

…all this says is “we really hope the Nets don’t get Dwight.”

not news.

by KiddShizzle on Dec 30, 2011 9:20 AM EST up reply actions  

Its not unlikely

What’s there plan after Kobe? These things have to be taken into consideration, especially with the Lakers franchise.

Dwight or Bust
Nets lose 33+ games this season.

One of the BEST game a duo ever had
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3v4GS9t8o8&feature=related

by Shameer1016 on Dec 30, 2011 9:23 AM EST up reply actions  

why would that be a better situation for Howard

Since none of actually know what he thinks….my view that he wants to WIN and make money too would still make us a better choice than the laskers.

All Fegan has to do is say, He won’t sign unless you keep Gasol.

It becomes almost impossible to do a deal.

I actually thinks that;s already happened and why LAL are pretending they’re not interested.

by KiddShizzle on Dec 30, 2011 9:26 AM EST up reply actions  

Its up to Howard, but once again, proven ownership and winning culture.

Nets lack both.

Dwight or Bust
Nets lose 33+ games this season.

One of the BEST game a duo ever had
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3v4GS9t8o8&feature=related

by Shameer1016 on Dec 30, 2011 9:28 AM EST up reply actions  

Not in today's NBA

everyone wants to team up, and now they have to take less money to make it happen.

Dwight or Bust
Nets lose 33+ games this season.

One of the BEST game a duo ever had
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3v4GS9t8o8&feature=related

by Shameer1016 on Dec 30, 2011 9:34 AM EST up reply actions  

we may have to move dwill

and it wouldn’t be the end of the world. do some kind of multi-team deal that brings rondo or jennings and some draft picks to the nets. you might have lopez, hump, rondo, harrison barnes brooks plus a few more #1s and cap space (but with a pretty good roster and a new arena)

by drmagoo on Dec 30, 2011 9:25 AM EST up reply actions  

We aren't even rebuilding

we trade away or don’t even attempt to sign the good players we draft because they Tweet and late to practice.

Dwight or Bust
Nets lose 33+ games this season.

One of the BEST game a duo ever had
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3v4GS9t8o8&feature=related

by Shameer1016 on Dec 30, 2011 9:29 AM EST up reply actions  

yea

My lil man.....can't tell me god don't exist.

by killa kadafi191 on Dec 30, 2011 9:30 AM EST up reply actions  

we never made an attempt to rebuild

they lost Kenyon in 04 and instead they pulled off the VC trade to guarantee multiple 42 win seasons and first/second round exits.

then when its time to pay up they dump Kidd and instead of blowing it up right there and selling VC while his value is high they give him a ridiculous extension. then after that backfires they sell both RJ and VC for scraps.

then they finally tank for three years and land high lottery picks and then trade it all away for Deron. There’s a possibility the nets could have had a Lopez/Favors/Kanter frontcourt and not only have their own 2012 pick but have Golden States and Houstons this year as well

oh well hindsight is a

The realist keepin it real amongst the surrealists

I was in Baghdad before these little B.G.'s was in they daddy-bags.

by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Dec 30, 2011 12:07 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm down to move Deron

I would kill for westbrook and Ibaka on this team

My lil man.....can't tell me god don't exist.

by killa kadafi191 on Dec 30, 2011 9:31 AM EST up reply actions  

I was reading what David Stern was saying that

The thunder wouldn’t be able to keep their team together.

My lil man.....can't tell me god don't exist.

by killa kadafi191 on Dec 30, 2011 9:35 AM EST up reply actions  

Haters gone Hate

Dude is a combo guard like Rose, which isn’t a bad thing, but can be when he wants to play SG.

Dwight or Bust
Nets lose 33+ games this season.

One of the BEST game a duo ever had
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3v4GS9t8o8&feature=related

by Shameer1016 on Dec 30, 2011 9:36 AM EST up reply actions  

We wouldn't know his name

F he wasn’t sharing the court with K.Durant. Let’s be serious. Westbrooks assists are purely a product of Durante ability to score at will

by Chakroot on Dec 30, 2011 9:39 AM EST up reply actions  

so we going to act like

he didn’t contribute to the win? Funny when Devin Harris was doing the same thing people loved it.

My lil man.....can't tell me god don't exist.

by killa kadafi191 on Dec 30, 2011 9:42 AM EST up reply actions  

When we liked Harris

was the times he showed flashes of being a winner.

He proved consistently that he was a loser though. So has Westbrook.

by CurlyBeast on Dec 30, 2011 9:51 AM EST up reply actions  

I think Westbrook is still young

My lil man.....can't tell me god don't exist.

by killa kadafi191 on Dec 30, 2011 9:52 AM EST up reply actions  

i worry about his attitude

if he cannot co exist with durant who can he co exist with?

by MrDollarBills on Dec 30, 2011 10:02 AM EST up reply actions  

I like his talent

but he seems to be very selfish imo

by MrDollarBills on Dec 30, 2011 10:02 AM EST up reply actions  

Never was a fan of Harris

And if we needed a pure point guard, I wouldn’t be high on D.Rose either

by Chakroot on Dec 30, 2011 9:53 AM EST up reply actions  

I don't like players like

Rose and Westbrick. Rose is looking like AI part 2 with a more talented team.

by CurlyBeast on Dec 30, 2011 9:50 AM EST up reply actions  

I love the freakish athleticism

But the bulls can keep him. Give me a facilitator any day of the week

by Chakroot on Dec 30, 2011 10:01 AM EST up reply actions  

That is false by all means

Westbrook and Rose are both good PG’s because they can score at will and are play makers. The only problem with have a combo guard is decision making, which really determines how good the player really is. I can’t bash neither since my PG is getting out played by a rookie.

Dwight or Bust
Nets lose 33+ games this season.

One of the BEST game a duo ever had
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3v4GS9t8o8&feature=related

by Shameer1016 on Dec 30, 2011 10:07 AM EST up reply actions  

How bad DWill plays

has nothing to do w/ how good or bad Rose and Westbrick are.

And Rose is insanely talented, and a pretty good player, but I don’t like score-first point guards. He needs something else (defense, maybe).

by CurlyBeast on Dec 30, 2011 10:11 AM EST up reply actions  

I never liked score first PG's either

but when you have PG’s looking like Carter and Kobe out there, you have to except the fact that its getting harder and harder to guard them. Rose is a great player and good PG but he also has his flaws which is the same for every player in the league. As I said, its the decision making which makes Westbrook looks bad because he shoots to much, but KD would never discourage him because he knows that teams needs another guy to reek havoc with.

Dwight or Bust
Nets lose 33+ games this season.

One of the BEST game a duo ever had
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3v4GS9t8o8&feature=related

by Shameer1016 on Dec 30, 2011 10:23 AM EST up reply actions  

we do have a slew of one-year contracts

which is a HUGE trade asset, not in my opinion enough to get Howard, but it is being overlooked. There will be teams looking for salary relief.

by gsloots on Dec 30, 2011 11:43 AM EST up reply actions  

This Nets team isn't dead just yet.

I really think Marshon Brooks is going to give us hope.

by Coach Joe on Dec 30, 2011 9:22 AM EST reply actions  

I'm agreeing with others yesterday now

Start the man. Give him the game experience and let him learn on the fly like we did with Favors.

Section 18, Row 7 at The Rock!
"Your 2010-2011 New Jersey Nets - It Is What It Is"

by eLonepb on Dec 30, 2011 9:23 AM EST up reply actions  

He's a bright spot for sure

but we have a unique coach and a unique team.

Dwight or Bust
Nets lose 33+ games this season.

One of the BEST game a duo ever had
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3v4GS9t8o8&feature=related

by Shameer1016 on Dec 30, 2011 9:26 AM EST up reply actions  

Kid earned it.

Gaines got the start after one good game.

by CurlyBeast on Dec 30, 2011 9:35 AM EST up reply actions  

Reading some stuff this morning

I see a lot of people are saying that Deron has checked out. I saw Chuck Kenny and Ernie said that. Saying since Lopez went down Deron isn’t " all the way there."

me and Shameer was speaking on this and I could see this happening.

My lil man.....can't tell me god don't exist.

by killa kadafi191 on Dec 30, 2011 9:28 AM EST reply actions  

I agree

I turned off my computer and was watching TV when the NT crew said that, but that should never be used as an excuse. If the notorious quitter in Vince Carter never wuit on this team, no one in the NBA should have a pass.

Dwight or Bust
Nets lose 33+ games this season.

One of the BEST game a duo ever had
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3v4GS9t8o8&feature=related

by Shameer1016 on Dec 30, 2011 9:31 AM EST up reply actions  

I think he if anything he just

knows this season doesn’t matter or that playoffs are impossible. Hopefully his struggling doesn’t continue

My lil man.....can't tell me god don't exist.

by killa kadafi191 on Dec 30, 2011 9:34 AM EST up reply actions  

yeah

but i think that the ‘checked out’ thing is very real

he’s not dumb. He knows that this team is PUTRID

he isn’t going to kill himself.

by MrDollarBills on Dec 30, 2011 9:36 AM EST up reply actions  

There is no excuse for checking out

Dwight or Bust
Nets lose 33+ games this season.

One of the BEST game a duo ever had
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3v4GS9t8o8&feature=related

by Shameer1016 on Dec 30, 2011 9:38 AM EST up reply actions  

i agree

there are tiers of star players. you want to be in the upper echelon, you play for blood always

imagine something extremely witty here

by Gminski on Dec 30, 2011 10:49 AM EST up reply actions  

if he's honestly checked out

then we seriously need to reconsider building our team around him

cuz that’s disgraceful. he’s a professional, act like it

by Dep on Dec 30, 2011 10:50 AM EST up reply actions  

Its his overall play

looks like he has his bags packed to leave or something, but its only been a few games, but has a true star player ever put up such bad numbers before? If he does well tonight, fans opinions will swing the other way and we’ll see the BI-Polar effect.

Dwight or Bust
Nets lose 33+ games this season.

One of the BEST game a duo ever had
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3v4GS9t8o8&feature=related

by Shameer1016 on Dec 30, 2011 9:38 AM EST up reply actions  

and youre all wrong

"It's as sweet as it ever was, I'll tell you. Now, hopefully, we started something and we can win some more championships, but we're going to enjoy this one right now. Have a little champagne." --Julius Erving, May 12, 1976, ABA champion Nets locker room.

by Net Income on Dec 30, 2011 9:31 AM EST up reply actions  

really?

how so?

his shot isn’t falling yeah, but what about the turnovers?

he’s not exactly carrying this team on his back, or looks like he even has an interest in doing so. when brook went down, so did he imo

by MrDollarBills on Dec 30, 2011 9:37 AM EST up reply actions  

How about you prove us wrong?

Dwight or Bust
Nets lose 33+ games this season.

One of the BEST game a duo ever had
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3v4GS9t8o8&feature=related

by Shameer1016 on Dec 30, 2011 9:39 AM EST up reply actions  

it's a ridiculous proposition on its face.

"It's as sweet as it ever was, I'll tell you. Now, hopefully, we started something and we can win some more championships, but we're going to enjoy this one right now. Have a little champagne." --Julius Erving, May 12, 1976, ABA champion Nets locker room.

by Net Income on Dec 30, 2011 9:51 AM EST up reply actions  

When people see a player

of Deron status struggle the way he does they think two things.

1. He has either checked out or not giving his all

2. that the Nets losing culture has effected him as well.

My lil man.....can't tell me god don't exist.

by killa kadafi191 on Dec 30, 2011 9:53 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Agreed

when Howard plays bad, everyone on here was quick to say he’s tanking. So are we really that special that it doesn’t work the same for us?

Dwight or Bust
Nets lose 33+ games this season.

One of the BEST game a duo ever had
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3v4GS9t8o8&feature=related

by Shameer1016 on Dec 30, 2011 10:08 AM EST up reply actions  

yeah

I watched that, and after I thought about it I agreed

even with the shot not falling, deron could be playing better

he isn’t taking care of the ball, that’s number 1

by MrDollarBills on Dec 30, 2011 9:35 AM EST up reply actions  

Playing like trash

doesn’t mean you’ve checked out.

He’s pressing too hard. Needs to just play.

by CurlyBeast on Dec 30, 2011 9:38 AM EST up reply actions  

Disagree.

He looks more lost or doesn’t know how to play with the team to be the most effective than he looks like he’s checked out.

by CurlyBeast on Dec 30, 2011 9:37 AM EST up reply actions  

I'll agree if this is game 10 in the season and he's still playing the same way.

3 games under our belt is not “checking” out in my opinion. If we’re well into the season and Deron is still playing like this then I’d agree he checked out.

I will say though, I think playing DWill at the 2 so he can score offense is a mistake. I feel although he has to play even more physical when he plays the 1, that’s where his assists and scoring comes into play. Putting him at the 2 doesn’t seem to be as effective as we want, Dwill is not a pure “shooter” as far as I’m concerned and even if he was, he’d probably be shooting as much as Ammo right now because we still have no down low presence to spread the floor and allow open looks.

Lastly, although the magic did defeat us, we had a 2 for 12 Deron, 1 for a million Ammo, against Magic and no Lopez. If lopez was in the game I actually believe we definitely could’ve won. I didn’t assume marshon brooks would be scoring effective but so far he is and I’m liking it. This is a definite positive plus.

by Roccor420 on Dec 30, 2011 10:05 AM EST up reply actions  

for the record

Richard Jefferson started in his 10th game as a rookie

Nenad Krstic started in his 23rd game as a rookie

Brook Lopez started in his 8th game as a rookie

Coaches don’t like to start rookies for the rookies sake. They don’t want to put too much pressure on them.

"It's as sweet as it ever was, I'll tell you. Now, hopefully, we started something and we can win some more championships, but we're going to enjoy this one right now. Have a little champagne." --Julius Erving, May 12, 1976, ABA champion Nets locker room.

by Net Income on Dec 30, 2011 9:33 AM EST reply actions   1 recs

When did Favors start?

I can’t recall. Some of that was to pump up his trade value of course. Could see the Nets doing that with Marshon as we get closer to the date he can be traded.

Section 18, Row 7 at The Rock!
"Your 2010-2011 New Jersey Nets - It Is What It Is"

by eLonepb on Dec 30, 2011 9:36 AM EST up reply actions  

I think 34 is around correct

Here is what Brooks said about the transition last night…

"It was tough at first," admits Brooks. "But coach is working me in slowly. He did a really good job of working me in slowly and letting me into practices. I just got to pay attention, because he’s been helping me as well with the plays, just putting the plays on my iPad."

"It's as sweet as it ever was, I'll tell you. Now, hopefully, we started something and we can win some more championships, but we're going to enjoy this one right now. Have a little champagne." --Julius Erving, May 12, 1976, ABA champion Nets locker room.

by Net Income on Dec 30, 2011 9:52 AM EST up reply actions  

I sort of hate that this season is more about Howard than it is about trying to win the games on the current schedule.

It’s what the front office has deemed we need to do to win championships in the future. I know, I know. It just makes me sad.

by Coach Joe on Dec 30, 2011 9:55 AM EST up reply actions  

when we get Howard all will be forgotten

the price is that while waiting, AND with Lopez out, we can only beat the bad teams and likely to lose to the fully healthy good ones.

by stenpoint on Dec 30, 2011 9:58 AM EST up reply actions  

we have no choice

if the team was staying in NJ I would have preferred to build slowly via the draft instead of this extreme gamble, but we’re here now.

by MrDollarBills on Dec 30, 2011 10:00 AM EST up reply actions  

MarShon is obviously lying. We know Avery doesn't have any plays.

“because he’s been helping me as well with the plays, just putting the plays on my iPad.”

DWill oop to D12
Otis Smith makes Travis Outlaw look like Avery Johnson

by 3ptChucker on Dec 30, 2011 10:19 AM EST up reply actions  

yes, but you are watching him on television

you are not watching him every day, talking to him.

"It's as sweet as it ever was, I'll tell you. Now, hopefully, we started something and we can win some more championships, but we're going to enjoy this one right now. Have a little champagne." --Julius Erving, May 12, 1976, ABA champion Nets locker room.

by Net Income on Dec 30, 2011 9:53 AM EST up reply actions  

An abridged season, a confident kid, a lame duck season in NJ.

Tis the season for an early starting lineup nod for a talented rookie.

by Coach Joe on Dec 30, 2011 9:53 AM EST up reply actions  

First I have to say

Okur needs to shoot the damn ball and stop pump faking so does Morrow.
Deron shots will start falling and Avert needs to start Brooks and Stevenson and let DWill play the point I don’t like when he’s playing the SG position

by nwkiddnj on Dec 30, 2011 9:37 AM EST reply actions  

I don't think he's checked out but

I do think there is a losing culture cancer that can take over this team unless Deron finds a way to lead his team to victories (or at least close losses instead of blowouts).

Section 18, Row 7 at The Rock!
"Your 2010-2011 New Jersey Nets - It Is What It Is"

by eLonepb on Dec 30, 2011 9:42 AM EST up reply actions  

Deron seems to be playing harder than he has last year

I do t remember him attacking the basket like this last year. Fact is If deron shot starts falling every one will change their tone like they always do. It’s the same thing every year

by nwkiddnj on Dec 30, 2011 9:45 AM EST up reply actions  

Also if our stopped pump faking the damn ball along with morrow DWill would of ha double digit assist

The team just isn’t playing well. DWill is such a competitor I can’t see him checking out after 3 games.

by nwkiddnj on Dec 30, 2011 9:48 AM EST up reply actions  

I didn't put much thought into the fact that we aren't practicing

Players like Okur, Stevenson, and Petro have no idea whats going on out there. They haven’t practiced at all and this kind of eases my mind understanding that there is a valid excuse for our horrible play.

Yes they are professionals but unless you have a grasp for the offense/defensive scemes and have that chemistry you won’t win games. The Nets look disfunctional, confused, slow and too hesitant on both sides of the court. I’m hopeful that in time they can mesh a little bit and start producing.

The teams that havent changed players much are proof to this. The Thunder and Spurs are looking great, their rosters havent changed much at all.

by breaking20 on Dec 30, 2011 9:41 AM EST reply actions  

I'm just hating on the unnecessary brag.

I said good things about him too. Even before we drafted him. I’m just glad that he’s playing well so far. I can’t wait to see more of him.

by Coach Joe on Dec 30, 2011 9:48 AM EST up reply actions  

*we traded for him at the draft; did not draft him.

by Coach Joe on Dec 30, 2011 9:49 AM EST up reply actions  

Sorry coach

I like the Kanye pic but never got to use it. LOL

by DWILL-of-the-GODZ on Dec 30, 2011 9:55 AM EST up reply actions  

Maybe he wants a rec

Im going to give it to you instead and let you decide what to do with it.

Section 18, Row 7 at The Rock!
"Your 2010-2011 New Jersey Nets - It Is What It Is"

by eLonepb on Dec 30, 2011 10:00 AM EST up reply actions  

thats too much responsibility

"Beware the Ides of March."

by Andy. on Dec 30, 2011 10:01 AM EST up reply actions  

what do you want…an award?

Im just happy the Nets fianlly got the guy i wanted and it’s working out. When Brooks is in the game we look like an actual NBA team.

by DWILL-of-the-GODZ on Dec 30, 2011 10:13 AM EST up reply actions  

I'll give him an award personally

since he put VC4P on blast lol

Dwight or Bust
Nets lose 33+ games this season.

One of the BEST game a duo ever had
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3v4GS9t8o8&feature=related

by Shameer1016 on Dec 30, 2011 10:11 AM EST up reply actions  

Many of us liked Brooks

Got to give Andres credit tho. He has been giving MarShon credit when he plays well

by nwkiddnj on Dec 30, 2011 9:42 AM EST up reply actions  

Well that's a nice change from labeling him a "total bum" on draft night

Section 18, Row 7 at The Rock!
"Your 2010-2011 New Jersey Nets - It Is What It Is"

by eLonepb on Dec 30, 2011 9:43 AM EST up reply actions  

I never said that he was a total bum. That's Morrow

I was big on Shumpert too and everyone gave me grief. Even though he is hurt he looks like he will be good.

by DWILL-of-the-GODZ on Dec 30, 2011 9:45 AM EST up reply actions  

hahah yeah

dude totally wrote him off from the moment we traded for him

by MrDollarBills on Dec 30, 2011 9:45 AM EST up reply actions  

i wanted Malcolm lee i remember lol

"Beware the Ides of March."

by Andy. on Dec 30, 2011 9:54 AM EST up reply actions  

lmao

"Beware the Ides of March."

by Andy. on Dec 30, 2011 9:59 AM EST up reply actions  

HAHAHAHAHA

"We're not there yet, but we're going somewhere," Johnson said. "And we're going to Brooklyn. We're not going to contract. We're going to Brooklyn."

by Atronic on Dec 30, 2011 3:46 PM EST up reply actions  

Brooks has been

a great surprise. Didn’t watch the game but read the reactions and kid seems like a spark.

My lil man.....can't tell me god don't exist.

by killa kadafi191 on Dec 30, 2011 9:54 AM EST up reply actions  

he was the only one scoring

for the Nets… when they made the run down from 20 in the second quarter

by danxcr on Dec 30, 2011 9:55 AM EST up reply actions  

dude plays with balls man

he definitely isn’t going through the motions

I dunno how pairing him up with westbrook would look tho :D

by MrDollarBills on Dec 30, 2011 9:56 AM EST up reply actions  

Most of the Nets fan base thought this lol

As we do with most of our first rounders. Its part of being a homer/fan. I’ve felt this way about Brooks since he was drafted too and i couldn’t be more happy with what he’s shown us so far!

by breaking20 on Dec 30, 2011 9:44 AM EST up reply actions  

a few of us went to watch him in New York

when he scored 48 after not having picked up the ball since the draft.

Stefan Bondy was there as well and what he said resonates the first three games…that he would have no problem getting his shot in the NBA.

The kid had star quality that night. It was obvious.

"It's as sweet as it ever was, I'll tell you. Now, hopefully, we started something and we can win some more championships, but we're going to enjoy this one right now. Have a little champagne." --Julius Erving, May 12, 1976, ABA champion Nets locker room.

by Net Income on Dec 30, 2011 9:56 AM EST up reply actions  

YUP I was there

That quality is something the Nets needed someone who would make noise and get mad like Marshon did last night going into halftime.

"We're not there yet, but we're going somewhere," Johnson said. "And we're going to Brooklyn. We're not going to contract. We're going to Brooklyn."

by Atronic on Dec 30, 2011 3:48 PM EST up reply actions  

I wonder what we could get for Anthony Morrow and Jordan Farmar.

It’s a package of $8M, with some spirited young players. I really think they could help many a team out there. I just don’t think they’re what we need right now.

by Coach Joe on Dec 30, 2011 9:50 AM EST reply actions  

I'm not thinking we could get Monta Ellis or Danny Granger or anything.

I just want someone that can run the floor with D-Will, jump and be over 6 foot 5 tall.

by Coach Joe on Dec 30, 2011 9:59 AM EST up reply actions  

At this point

Give me Hasheem Thabeet and Chase Budinger and I’m happy.

by Coach Joe on Dec 30, 2011 10:02 AM EST up reply actions  

Can't see Farmar having that much value around the league

He has not played well and wants to start. What would the Lakers trade?

by gsloots on Dec 30, 2011 11:55 AM EST up reply actions  

Is it possible that the Deron is playing bad to increase the value of our pick?

It isn’t too far fetched to think Deron is dogging it to make the quality of our pick better so we have a better offer to Orlando. He really wants Dwight and will do anything to get him.

If he wanted out, it doesn’t benefit him to wait. He will lose money and a guaranteed extra year on his contract.

The other explanation is that he is a jerk.

by tategeorge on Dec 30, 2011 9:51 AM EST reply actions  

yeah lol

"We're not there yet, but we're going somewhere," Johnson said. "And we're going to Brooklyn. We're not going to contract. We're going to Brooklyn."

by Atronic on Dec 30, 2011 3:48 PM EST up reply actions  

Is it also possible that the other guy dwight wants to play with is dogging it also?

Think about it. If Morrow plays like this, he becomes less desirable to Orlando and they won’t demand him in a trade. Plus, again, it increases the value of the pick.

by tategeorge on Dec 30, 2011 9:54 AM EST up reply actions  

NetsDaily

just want to clarify something here: wouldn’t it be considered a personal attack or against the rules when posters assail killa or myself for having ‘negative’ opinions?

Just want to be clear on this, because I’m reading the above convo and its annoying that any time someone posts their honest opinion they get called something derogatory because of it.

Seems like that goes against the rules.

by MrDollarBills on Dec 30, 2011 9:53 AM EST reply actions  

hahaha nah

I’m just being honest. I don’t even care if there are arguments on here but imo the playing field should be level. If I can’t call someone delusional(which is true, i shouldn’t) for having an opinion different from my own, others shouldn’t be able to make derogatory remarks about me and killa because of our opinions.

it’s a personal shot either way you put it.

by MrDollarBills on Dec 30, 2011 9:59 AM EST up reply actions  

LOL

No, I used a much better word that I got a warning for, but I respect EVERYONE’s opinion here even though it doesn’t seem that way.

Dwight or Bust
Nets lose 33+ games this season.

One of the BEST game a duo ever had
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3v4GS9t8o8&feature=related

by Shameer1016 on Dec 30, 2011 10:12 AM EST up reply actions  

dude I never said that

I don’t care about people opinion. I say I don’t agree. Lupe or lupo whatever his name I never called him to positive. I said “I hope you are right” but I don’t agree in regards to his Dwight predictions.

As for me you only get a reaction out of me when you attack me and not my opinion. Cause this is a website with a variety people. No one is going to think exactly the same. So I could careless if someone feel my point is wrong. Now when something slick is said that leads to the whole “Somebody about to get banned” stuff

My lil man.....can't tell me god don't exist.

by killa kadafi191 on Dec 30, 2011 10:16 AM EST up reply actions  

Technically, you're posting your opinion

disguised as fact. Which is why people react so venomously.

by CurlyBeast on Dec 30, 2011 10:02 AM EST up reply actions  

oh please

miss me with that. We give our opinions on the matter, not ONCE did I ever say that “Deron will leave” is a fact. It is my opinion and should be taken as such. Now if you aren’t able to distinguish between the two, that’s your problem.

You react venomously because it doesn’t vibe with your opinion, point blank. You guys behave like fascists when someone says something that doesn’t go in tune with the idea that we’re supposed to look at this garbage and say that it smells like roses.

no beef or anything, but we should be free to disagree with each other. I shouldn’t call folks delusional, you guys shouldn’t be clinging to that ‘oh you’re so negative’ nonsense either.

by MrDollarBills on Dec 30, 2011 10:11 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

I don't think I've reacted venomously to you.

I’m just stating why some might be reacting that way. It’s not your opinion, just the way you state it so emphatically.

by CurlyBeast on Dec 30, 2011 10:25 AM EST up reply actions  

Yes.

That person was warned. killa was banned for his response, because he’d already received plenty of warnings telling him not to respond with more attacks when people try to call him out for being negative. And he clearly doesn’t care about keeping the discussion respectful.

To him, these comments are some kind of pissing contest, and we can’t have that kind of attitude here.

NetsDaily.com

by NetsDaily on Dec 30, 2011 6:12 PM EST up reply actions  

Come on people

you were all celebrating and making a big deal out of the fact that Dwight looked like he was dogging it in a freaking preseason game and now refuse to see the obvious, DWill is going thru the motions right now.

by Andres B on Dec 30, 2011 9:54 AM EST reply actions  

yep

but it also could be that his shot is just off.

but the carelessness with the ball? inexcusable. not being able to be productive despite the shot not falling? inexcusable

he isn’t going to risk injury for a team full of bums

by MrDollarBills on Dec 30, 2011 9:55 AM EST up reply actions  

He hasnt gone hard to the hole until late in last nights game
He needs to post on the smallest guard to get the Nets easy baskets off the double team

by DJ HeavyDuty on Dec 30, 2011 9:59 AM EST up reply actions  

He's a unique talent.

His hairstyle is definitely one of a kind.

by Coach Joe on Dec 30, 2011 10:13 AM EST up reply actions  

The medium length, wave capped comb-forward.

by Coach Joe on Dec 30, 2011 10:16 AM EST up reply actions  

I'm not saying that

in fact, and like I said many times in this post, I am pretty confident we will keep him beyond this season.

But I’m not liking his attitude right now, sometimes you’d think this guy has done so much for us we have to bow down and sing his praises even when he’s not playing hard.

by Andres B on Dec 30, 2011 10:00 AM EST up reply actions  

well this being the Nets

Honestly the Nets franchise made me ready for the worst.

I remember reading Lopez was hurt at work. I was like.“Oh”

My lil man.....can't tell me god don't exist.

by killa kadafi191 on Dec 30, 2011 10:01 AM EST up reply actions  

Who has a bigger head?

Brain or She Willz? XD

Dwight or Bust
Nets lose 33+ games this season.

One of the BEST game a duo ever had
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3v4GS9t8o8&feature=related

by Shameer1016 on Dec 30, 2011 10:13 AM EST up reply actions  

yeah

hahaha when I heard the news I was like…‘figures’

I expect the scoreboard to drop on the team before they go to BK

by MrDollarBills on Dec 30, 2011 10:17 AM EST up reply actions  

that is funny

dwight had a bad preseason game and people were ready to say he was tanking.

I think at worst Deron just knows the deal

My lil man.....can't tell me god don't exist.

by killa kadafi191 on Dec 30, 2011 9:58 AM EST up reply actions  

Yeah

sure didn’t look like he was tanking last night when he was beating the hell out of our bigs

by MrDollarBills on Dec 30, 2011 10:17 AM EST up reply actions  

Quick, trade him before he demands a trade!

I think Jameer and Fat Baby can still be had! They might even throw in Hedo if we’re lucky!

by CurlyBeast on Dec 30, 2011 10:00 AM EST up reply actions  

NY's offense looks absolutely putrid

and they have scoring aces like Amare and Melo

by Andres B on Dec 30, 2011 9:58 AM EST up reply actions  

and putting their hopes in Baron Davis and Jeremy Lin

and thats the difference between Knick fans and Net fans. They are all convinced things will work out, that their strategy of giving out huge long term contracts is the right way to go. The are hamstrung right now. Maybe things will work out, but their fans are convinced they are championship contenders.

Net fans spend their time planning mass suicides.

"It's as sweet as it ever was, I'll tell you. Now, hopefully, we started something and we can win some more championships, but we're going to enjoy this one right now. Have a little champagne." --Julius Erving, May 12, 1976, ABA champion Nets locker room.

by Net Income on Dec 30, 2011 10:12 AM EST up reply actions   2 recs

you yourself have been pretty pessimistic lately

so spare me with this nonsensical criticism of those who tell things how they see them.

by Andres B on Dec 30, 2011 10:14 AM EST up reply actions  

And...

I’m confident everything will work out our way in the end, that doesn’t mean I don’t have eyes to realize Deron is not giving his all and that we lack talent right now.

by Andres B on Dec 30, 2011 10:14 AM EST up reply actions  

you are not with the team

you are watching on television. You do not have the knowledge to make that judgement.

"It's as sweet as it ever was, I'll tell you. Now, hopefully, we started something and we can win some more championships, but we're going to enjoy this one right now. Have a little champagne." --Julius Erving, May 12, 1976, ABA champion Nets locker room.

by Net Income on Dec 30, 2011 10:19 AM EST up reply actions  

that we lack talent?

saying that deron is dogging it is seriously debatable, I agree.

The lacking talent part tho? whoa

by MrDollarBills on Dec 30, 2011 10:20 AM EST up reply actions  

I saw some positives last night

they mounted a comeback. Brooks played better last night than the night before. Okur looked like he was getting in sync.

I’m sorry but if you lose your best scorer four days before the season opener, sign or trade for three rotation players within five days before the season starts and have another rotation player out for a week before the opener with the flu, what do you expect?

"It's as sweet as it ever was, I'll tell you. Now, hopefully, we started something and we can win some more championships, but we're going to enjoy this one right now. Have a little champagne." --Julius Erving, May 12, 1976, ABA champion Nets locker room.

by Net Income on Dec 30, 2011 10:18 AM EST up reply actions  

I expect losses

and I have said as such. But that’s “pessimistic” to some

you had people saying that this team was better without Lopez for god’s sake

by MrDollarBills on Dec 30, 2011 10:21 AM EST up reply actions  

Speaking of the Flu Williams.

It looks like he might be able to do some damage at PF. He was boxing out with some serious effort last night. I liked what I saw. 6 foot 9, 230 pounds. How ’bout it.

by Coach Joe on Dec 30, 2011 10:22 AM EST up reply actions  

well why shouldn't they

they have two all star who are locked in long term with their franchise. They were able to make moves during the off season.

In a year after losing out on the Lebron sweepstakes they are in a good position.

My lil man.....can't tell me god don't exist.

by killa kadafi191 on Dec 30, 2011 10:18 AM EST up reply actions  

yep

they continue to build, we continue to beg and make huge leaps of faith

it is what it is, if we get Dwight we’ll be right there with them

as of now, we are not even within smelling distance of the Knicks, records be damned

by MrDollarBills on Dec 30, 2011 10:19 AM EST up reply actions  

they are?

doesnt seem that way. Seems like they have a roster that is out of sync.

"It's as sweet as it ever was, I'll tell you. Now, hopefully, we started something and we can win some more championships, but we're going to enjoy this one right now. Have a little champagne." --Julius Erving, May 12, 1976, ABA champion Nets locker room.

by Net Income on Dec 30, 2011 10:20 AM EST up reply actions  

that will get it going

they have Amare, Chandler, and Melo.

We have a seemingly disinterested D-Will with one foot out the door, Brook in a boot, a green rookie that can score, and a bunch of 1 year contract mercs

They are in a better position, period.

by MrDollarBills on Dec 30, 2011 10:22 AM EST up reply actions  

difference between the Nets slow start and the Knicks

the heat started off slow too. People were laughing saying they made a mistake.

How did they finish. Difference is the players they have people expect them to get better. Our players right now???

In my opinion they should have never added Melo to STAT’s tean

My lil man.....can't tell me god don't exist.

by killa kadafi191 on Dec 30, 2011 10:24 AM EST up reply actions  

Knicks have talent

Nets do not

big difference.

Our outlook was a lot more rosier in the Kidd/Carter days

by MrDollarBills on Dec 30, 2011 10:18 AM EST up reply actions  

Kris Humphries

is averaging 14 and 11. He is 7th in offensive rebounds (3.3), 9th in field goal percentage (59.3%) and 10th in rebounding. He is, so far, playing better than Tyson Chandler who got $52 million over four years.

"It's as sweet as it ever was, I'll tell you. Now, hopefully, we started something and we can win some more championships, but we're going to enjoy this one right now. Have a little champagne." --Julius Erving, May 12, 1976, ABA champion Nets locker room.

by Net Income on Dec 30, 2011 10:02 AM EST reply actions  

He made some tough shots with Howard coming right at him last night.

He definitely took the time with his jump shot, no doubt.

"Beware the Ides of March."

by Andy. on Dec 30, 2011 10:04 AM EST up reply actions  

14 and 8

"It's as sweet as it ever was, I'll tell you. Now, hopefully, we started something and we can win some more championships, but we're going to enjoy this one right now. Have a little champagne." --Julius Erving, May 12, 1976, ABA champion Nets locker room.

by Net Income on Dec 30, 2011 10:07 AM EST up reply actions  

Tyson Chandler stinks.

Never wanted him. Hump is a blue collar worker, Udonis Haslem type player. Great role player at PF for us (or any team). Still young. Hope the Nets keep him after this year with a reasonable Haslem-like contract.

by CurlyBeast on Dec 30, 2011 10:07 AM EST up reply actions  

MarShon Brooks

is averaging 13.3 ppg (3rd among rookies, behind only Brandan Knight and Kemba Walker). he is also fourth in shooting percentage (44.1%) behind only Tristan Thompson, Knight and Walker.

"It's as sweet as it ever was, I'll tell you. Now, hopefully, we started something and we can win some more championships, but we're going to enjoy this one right now. Have a little champagne." --Julius Erving, May 12, 1976, ABA champion Nets locker room.

by Net Income on Dec 30, 2011 10:10 AM EST reply actions  

I believe he leads all rookies in the futuristic sock category, too.

by Coach Joe on Dec 30, 2011 10:11 AM EST up reply actions  

I have noticed that

my son and I were wondering are they socks, extended knee pads, shin guards, or some totally new knee machine.

"It's as sweet as it ever was, I'll tell you. Now, hopefully, we started something and we can win some more championships, but we're going to enjoy this one right now. Have a little champagne." --Julius Erving, May 12, 1976, ABA champion Nets locker room.

by Net Income on Dec 30, 2011 10:13 AM EST up reply actions  

those things are pretty sweet

they look like something to compress the calf muscles or whatever

by MrDollarBills on Dec 30, 2011 10:15 AM EST up reply actions  

exactly what i thought when i first saw them, those are specifically adidas sleeves

but i’ve never seen anyone wear those type of calf sleeves. which is why i think those are arm sleeves he’s wearing on his legs. Dwight, Rose, Smith, Chauncey, Duncan, T-Wack, Lopez, etc have never seen them wearing the sleeves on their legs but they may be brand new for basketball.

also did you know Dwight, Hedo, Harris, Lopez, Favors, Farmar, Deshawn, and Najera are all on the Adidas BBall team?

The realist keepin it real amongst the surrealists

I was in Baghdad before these little B.G.'s was in they daddy-bags.

by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Dec 30, 2011 1:59 PM EST up reply actions  

hes part of addidas just like dwight thats… those are adidas arm sleeves and socks or leg sleeves…..

by VictorJ on Dec 30, 2011 10:26 AM EST up reply actions  

and it's 13.3 ppg in only 19 minutes per for Marshon

but in the past 2 games and not skewed by the 1st game, it’s more like 17 ppg in 24 mpg

by stenpoint on Dec 30, 2011 10:16 AM EST up reply actions  

With his college play in mind...

do you think Marshon can keep up the shooting % or might he have issues once teams know how to defend him?

by cprash on Dec 30, 2011 10:16 AM EST via Android app up reply actions  

Brooks has very good touch on his shot and is known for being a hard worker

I dont see why he cant be a 46-48% FG shooter.

The more important thing is if he can be a wirey SF ala Tayshaun Prince. SF is were we need the most help outside of center

by DWILL-of-the-GODZ on Dec 30, 2011 10:21 AM EST up reply actions  

The fact that he’s a hard worker makes the decision to draft him even better imho.

by cprash on Dec 30, 2011 10:24 AM EST via Android app up reply actions  

he's a rookie

an older rookie to be sure. So he will have ups and downs. And since he is a volume shooter, he will go through slumps and hot streaks.

"It's as sweet as it ever was, I'll tell you. Now, hopefully, we started something and we can win some more championships, but we're going to enjoy this one right now. Have a little champagne." --Julius Erving, May 12, 1976, ABA champion Nets locker room.

by Net Income on Dec 30, 2011 10:24 AM EST up reply actions  

I think the main problem here is this:

We as Nets fans have heard that Deron doesn’t like losing, he gets grumpy, he will haul ass on us if we can’t do such and such, etc.

Yet right now, even though its three games, Deron isn’t doing much to help the team win.

So Deron really has no place to say anything about this team if he isn’t out there busting his ass. He’s not. And that’s why people are looking at this situation and are thinking ‘hmmm…he might be dogging it’

I think that the guys is off with his shot, but that does not explain his piss poor amount of TOs.

by MrDollarBills on Dec 30, 2011 10:14 AM EST reply actions  

does he get 'credited' with the TO for passes his teammates can't catch?

he’s been stripped too a few times but just wondering about the above

by stenpoint on Dec 30, 2011 10:17 AM EST up reply actions  

and what is your solution?

public scolding?

"It's as sweet as it ever was, I'll tell you. Now, hopefully, we started something and we can win some more championships, but we're going to enjoy this one right now. Have a little champagne." --Julius Erving, May 12, 1976, ABA champion Nets locker room.

by Net Income on Dec 30, 2011 10:22 AM EST up reply actions  

and what is your solution?

besides responding indignantly to every comment?

by MrDollarBills on Dec 30, 2011 10:26 AM EST up reply actions  

back in the good ole days

DWill oop to D12
Otis Smith makes Travis Outlaw look like Avery Johnson

by 3ptChucker on Dec 30, 2011 10:27 AM EST up reply actions  

"They said don't kick a man when he's down, they ain't say we can't stop homie"

Dwight or Bust
Nets lose 33+ games this season.

One of the BEST game a duo ever had
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3v4GS9t8o8&feature=related

by Shameer1016 on Dec 30, 2011 10:29 AM EST up reply actions  

He said we don’t have starters, only very good role players. So my question is why go after Howard? Why didn’t we just sign nene/Crawford/butler?

by Nets4Life(8) on Dec 30, 2011 10:27 AM EST up reply actions  

My feeling is that if Brook is not back at 100%

we are going to be in quite severe trouble not just from basketball standpoint but in terms of a Dwight deal as well.

I think it's fine.

by NetsMets4Life on Dec 30, 2011 10:18 AM EST reply actions  

spot on, that's why

1) we need Brook back
2) our best chance at Dwight is now the offseason (LA in the lead at the trade deadlne)

by stenpoint on Dec 30, 2011 10:19 AM EST up reply actions  

Why didn’t we just sign nene butler Crawford and be the hawks win 50 gms every yr and lose in the first or second rd?

Dwill is going bury this franchise in a very very deep hole because he wants to win and win a championship and have a another superstar with him, you just can’t have it all

by Nets4Life(8) on Dec 30, 2011 10:23 AM EST reply actions  

good God

"It's as sweet as it ever was, I'll tell you. Now, hopefully, we started something and we can win some more championships, but we're going to enjoy this one right now. Have a little champagne." --Julius Erving, May 12, 1976, ABA champion Nets locker room.

by Net Income on Dec 30, 2011 10:24 AM EST up reply actions  

Look, just getting tried of the garbage that comes out of this guys mouth. If he wants to win so bad, should have told BK to sign nene/Crawford/butler. The only reason I say he’s going to bury this franchise is because according to reports he asked for okur,shawne Williams,Stevenson and of course Howard but instead we could have gone the easy route and signed those FA from this yr and just continue adding to the puzzle because like the mavs showed you don’t need 2 or 3 stars to win, you need a TEAM

by Nets4Life(8) on Dec 30, 2011 10:41 AM EST up reply actions  

As nice as this sounds, the Mavericks built up an impossibly deep team over a long, long time, and they had the good fortune of playing the impossibly un-clutch Lebron James.

The Heat should have wrecked them.

by mytoemytoe on Dec 30, 2011 5:45 PM EST up reply actions  

If we start Brooks, Deron will be OK

Teams are trapping Deron on every play because no one else in the starting lineup can take the ball to the hole. By getting the ball out of DWill’s hands we arent getting into our offense until 12 sec on the play clock which is going to lead to alot of 3pt heaves.

When Brooks is in the game, teams cant press Dwill as much.

by DWILL-of-the-GODZ on Dec 30, 2011 10:24 AM EST reply actions  

and there is no one in the post to take the pressure off the guards

"It's as sweet as it ever was, I'll tell you. Now, hopefully, we started something and we can win some more championships, but we're going to enjoy this one right now. Have a little champagne." --Julius Erving, May 12, 1976, ABA champion Nets locker room.

by Net Income on Dec 30, 2011 10:25 AM EST up reply actions  

it's true that Ammo has been playing like crap

but I don’t think we should trade him.

the reason why he is shooting so bad is because there is no one in the post who can score, so other teams can focus on defending the perimeters.

I believe once Brook comes back, or if we trade for Dwight, Marrow will be playing like the way he did last year. Shooting his 3s at a high percentage. It’s too early to talk about trading him.

JKidd Era 2! Starring D.Williams as the lead actor, Avery Johnson as Byron Scott, and Player X as Player Y.
Let the show begin!

by LetsGoNets on Dec 30, 2011 10:25 AM EST reply actions  

no, I think his career is over

same with WIlliams.

"It's as sweet as it ever was, I'll tell you. Now, hopefully, we started something and we can win some more championships, but we're going to enjoy this one right now. Have a little champagne." --Julius Erving, May 12, 1976, ABA champion Nets locker room.

by Net Income on Dec 30, 2011 10:26 AM EST up reply actions  

Now your thinking the right way!

Dwight or Bust
Nets lose 33+ games this season.

One of the BEST game a duo ever had
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3v4GS9t8o8&feature=related

by Shameer1016 on Dec 30, 2011 10:27 AM EST up reply actions  

his career 3pt shooting % was over the day he signed with Nets

DWill oop to D12
Otis Smith makes Travis Outlaw look like Avery Johnson

by 3ptChucker on Dec 30, 2011 10:30 AM EST up reply actions  

Morrow is NOT a good player

http://espn.go.com/nba/statistics/player/_/stat/scoring-per-48-minutes/sort/avg48Points/year/2011/qualified/false/position/shooting-guards

All he can do is shoot/score. He was 35 in the NBA at SG scoring wise last year which is strictly BENCH material considering that he does little else to contribute to the team.

by DWILL-of-the-GODZ on Dec 30, 2011 10:32 AM EST up reply actions  

He has a role on a Championship team, that's for sure.

Starting in NJ, waiting for Howard during a lame duck season is not where he belongs.

by Coach Joe on Dec 30, 2011 10:33 AM EST up reply actions  

agree

My lil man.....can't tell me god don't exist.

by killa kadafi191 on Dec 30, 2011 10:34 AM EST up reply actions  

I think Morrow is what he always been

a role player. As someone said he didn’t even start with the Warriors.

I think the Nets had to big of expectations for him. He isn’t Outlaw. I think he will be okay in the right situation

My lil man.....can't tell me god don't exist.

by killa kadafi191 on Dec 30, 2011 10:28 AM EST up reply actions  

Happy Kris is doing well

my question why wasn’t he off the market???

I mean teams were calling Chuck Hayes even after it was revealed he was okay/

My lil man.....can't tell me god don't exist.

by killa kadafi191 on Dec 30, 2011 10:25 AM EST reply actions  

Maybe he had an agreement with the Nets

plus he’s loyal since they gave him the playing time.

Dwight or Bust
Nets lose 33+ games this season.

One of the BEST game a duo ever had
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3v4GS9t8o8&feature=related

by Shameer1016 on Dec 30, 2011 10:27 AM EST up reply actions  

gave him more than that

gave him good coaching. Avery and Popeye Jones have a good record taking big kids who teams have given up on and making him into more more than serviceable players. They did it with Bass and Diop (who became a solid defender in Dallas) and they did with Humphries.

"It's as sweet as it ever was, I'll tell you. Now, hopefully, we started something and we can win some more championships, but we're going to enjoy this one right now. Have a little champagne." --Julius Erving, May 12, 1976, ABA champion Nets locker room.

by Net Income on Dec 30, 2011 10:35 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

two words, Kim Kardashian

there was a LOT of concern about his baggage.

Of course, you could have written this statement:

It’s great that Hump showed his loyalty to the coaches who gave him his first real chance and waited til the Nets had finished trying to get D12. And wasn’t it smart of Billy King to offer him a big one year deal?

"It's as sweet as it ever was, I'll tell you. Now, hopefully, we started something and we can win some more championships, but we're going to enjoy this one right now. Have a little champagne." --Julius Erving, May 12, 1976, ABA champion Nets locker room.

by Net Income on Dec 30, 2011 10:28 AM EST up reply actions  

You call it smart

but the way he’s playing, more big deals are on the horizon for him.

Dwight or Bust
Nets lose 33+ games this season.

One of the BEST game a duo ever had
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3v4GS9t8o8&feature=related

by Shameer1016 on Dec 30, 2011 10:30 AM EST up reply actions  

It WAS smart.

Nets retain his Bird Rights. Can give him more than any other team. He’s 26 and in a year, Kim Kardashian will have moved on and no one will care much about her role. Smart move for him and for King.

What’s the down side?

"It's as sweet as it ever was, I'll tell you. Now, hopefully, we started something and we can win some more championships, but we're going to enjoy this one right now. Have a little champagne." --Julius Erving, May 12, 1976, ABA champion Nets locker room.

by Net Income on Dec 30, 2011 10:33 AM EST up reply actions  

Playing out of our price range

we need cap every where to go after players we can’t sign. But I see your point, it was a great signing

Dwight or Bust
Nets lose 33+ games this season.

One of the BEST game a duo ever had
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3v4GS9t8o8&feature=related

by Shameer1016 on Dec 30, 2011 10:43 AM EST up reply actions  

When will we know how bird right work in the offseason?

Will we be able to trade Hump and bird rights?

What are the rules on cap holds?

We have all these one year players who would make for a great bench if we signed Dwight. I would keep Hump, S. Williams, Okur, Stevenson and Gaines at the right price in the offseason.

by gsloots on Dec 30, 2011 12:02 PM EST up reply actions  

I get that

but dude is a good guy and seems to be an excellent locker room guy.

Plus the stuff he does on the court is what coaches love.

I mean this is a league where Dennis Rodman was tolerated. Just hate to see a good guy like Hump get a bad rep of some chick that is carry on her father legacy

My lil man.....can't tell me god don't exist.

by killa kadafi191 on Dec 30, 2011 10:30 AM EST up reply actions  

I know this

i’m not speculating Even the Nets were very concerned about it, about where his head was at. Apparently, it’s fine, but teams were wary of it all.

"It's as sweet as it ever was, I'll tell you. Now, hopefully, we started something and we can win some more championships, but we're going to enjoy this one right now. Have a little champagne." --Julius Erving, May 12, 1976, ABA champion Nets locker room.

by Net Income on Dec 30, 2011 10:33 AM EST up reply actions  

So teams were worried about a guy being dumped by a ho?

Dwight or Bust
Nets lose 33+ games this season.

One of the BEST game a duo ever had
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3v4GS9t8o8&feature=related

by Shameer1016 on Dec 30, 2011 10:43 AM EST up reply actions  

Please can we do something to get AK47 in here

things will be so much more watchable……as we stand right now, anything passed towards james/petro and sheldon as well is fumbled and sputtered away…..the guy takes so much pressure off a point guard

Section15 Row 12 Seats 1&2

by Angelo Mihalitsianos on Dec 30, 2011 10:26 AM EST reply actions  

who knows what is going on with him

He is obviously the best unsigned player out there. Maybe he will stay in Russia.

"It's as sweet as it ever was, I'll tell you. Now, hopefully, we started something and we can win some more championships, but we're going to enjoy this one right now. Have a little champagne." --Julius Erving, May 12, 1976, ABA champion Nets locker room.

by Net Income on Dec 30, 2011 10:31 AM EST up reply actions  

4 and 5

Damion James was Rod Thorn’s last pick. It was a bad pick. He is not a very good basketball player. He can defend a bit and can rebound a bit. He has no offense to speak of. His hands are like rocks. He should be a defensive specialist.

Shawne Williams is still suffering from missing a WEEK with the flu. He will be fine.

"It's as sweet as it ever was, I'll tell you. Now, hopefully, we started something and we can win some more championships, but we're going to enjoy this one right now. Have a little champagne." --Julius Erving, May 12, 1976, ABA champion Nets locker room.

by Net Income on Dec 30, 2011 10:30 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

woah woah woah

It was a bad pick.

you loved that pick. you defended Thorn trading away 2 picks to move up as adamantly as you defended Yi and Outlaw

DWill oop to D12
Otis Smith makes Travis Outlaw look like Avery Johnson

by 3ptChucker on Dec 30, 2011 10:34 AM EST up reply actions  

I liked it

but you know (and I am sure you do) that picks are judged by what they do in the league.

But right now I would rather have Jordan Crawford and the rights to Tibor Pleiss.

"It's as sweet as it ever was, I'll tell you. Now, hopefully, we started something and we can win some more championships, but we're going to enjoy this one right now. Have a little champagne." --Julius Erving, May 12, 1976, ABA champion Nets locker room.

by Net Income on Dec 30, 2011 10:36 AM EST up reply actions  

WHOA WHOA WHOA WHOA WHOA

The kid that is on the Wizards right now???

WE TRADED HIM AWAY FOR DAMON JAMES???????

My lil man.....can't tell me god don't exist.

by killa kadafi191 on Dec 30, 2011 10:38 AM EST up reply actions  

WE DID

I just look this up are you freaking kidding me???? Jordan was the reason the Wiz weren’t rushing to sign Young.

My lil man.....can't tell me god don't exist.

by killa kadafi191 on Dec 30, 2011 10:42 AM EST up reply actions  

lol i guess we are so used to bad drafts we stopped watching

yeah they traded Jordan Crawford(after he dunked on Lebron) to the hawks for damion james and then traded the rights to tibor pleiss to the thunder. and this was when we had a no SG to speak of and could have played T-Will and CD-R at the three instead

Thorn is was such a terrible drafter and its the main reason this franchise has been set back so far. Small market teams have to draft right just to join the game of winning a title. between the Kristic pick in 02 and the Lopez pick in 08 he picked nothing but busts. We could easily have a lineup of:

blank, Jordan Crawford, Danny Granger, Cousins, Lopez

with the bench of:
T-Will, CD-R, RA, C. Lee, plus draft pick from 2011

and then say he traded Dooling for Beasley like he should have. sure we wouldnt have a star but we damn sure would be a scary team to play

with the possibility of having 3 picks in the top 20 in this years draft. Oh but hindsight is a

The realist keepin it real amongst the surrealists

I was in Baghdad before these little B.G.'s was in they daddy-bags.

by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Dec 30, 2011 2:17 PM EST up reply actions  

Kudos
Damion James was Rod Thorn’s last pick. It was a bad pick. He is not a very good basketball player. He can defend a bit and can rebound a bit. He has no offense to speak of. His hands are like rocks. He should be a defensive specialist.

Did someone hack NI’s account?

by DWILL-of-the-GODZ on Dec 30, 2011 10:37 AM EST up reply actions  

Timeout, we picked the good scorer Jordan Crawford no?

The Trade Master strikes again.

Dwight or Bust
Nets lose 33+ games this season.

One of the BEST game a duo ever had
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3v4GS9t8o8&feature=related

by Shameer1016 on Dec 30, 2011 10:40 AM EST up reply actions  

I still remember I was praying that we pick Jordan Crawford and

no one before us draft him and then we picked him and I was ecstatic till I found that we traded him. Oh well… another wasted draft pick, actually two. Thorn was horrible at drafting.

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by NDTony on Dec 30, 2011 11:25 AM EST up reply actions  

on 1

“c) Where are the Morrow playing off screen plays?”
Exactly. Morrow was just parked there and he was covered. Avery runs multiple screens for DWill playing off the ball but none for Morrow. None.

“d) Where are the Pick and roll plays that Dwill used in Utah? Hump and Okur should be able to do them.”

Right on, again. Avery had Okur posted up a few times but why?! He’s a high-post kind of player. I didn’t see any real pick-and-roll run for him and DWill. Okur also passes up too many shots, hopefully he’s gained in confidence.

by stenpoint on Dec 30, 2011 10:35 AM EST up reply actions  

I don't feel like

Morrow is fast or strong enough in his legs to power through multiple screens and get open and ready to shoot.

by Coach Joe on Dec 30, 2011 10:36 AM EST up reply actions  

I disagree

Avery called a screen play for Morrow and it worked. Morrow hit the shot. He can do it especially if he is coming off the bench. Run a few of those then sit him back on the bench.

by SIC One on Dec 30, 2011 10:45 AM EST up reply actions  

forget Carlesimo

SIC One should be our next coach

"Good pitching will always stop good hitting and vice-versa." -- Casey Stengel

by calling all toasters on Dec 30, 2011 11:09 AM EST up reply actions  

I vote for Killa

my dude would put bodies in an abandon house LMFAO

Dwight or Bust
Nets lose 33+ games this season.

One of the BEST game a duo ever had
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3v4GS9t8o8&feature=related

by Shameer1016 on Dec 30, 2011 11:13 AM EST up reply actions  

Didn’t starting Gaines at SG look like a bit of a panic move, btw?

by Coach Joe on Dec 30, 2011 10:34 AM EST up reply actions  

no one panics in Game 3

"It's as sweet as it ever was, I'll tell you. Now, hopefully, we started something and we can win some more championships, but we're going to enjoy this one right now. Have a little champagne." --Julius Erving, May 12, 1976, ABA champion Nets locker room.

by Net Income on Dec 30, 2011 10:37 AM EST up reply actions  

you were right about Gaines

a cheaper back up and makes Farmer expendable

My lil man.....can't tell me god don't exist.

by killa kadafi191 on Dec 30, 2011 10:40 AM EST up reply actions  

yup

we can turn Farmar into OJ Mayo that would be nice. Or for even cap space and a draft pick!

by danxcr on Dec 30, 2011 10:41 AM EST up reply actions  

I was wrong about Gaines

but I still don’t think he is what you need. He is not a great distributor by any means.

"It's as sweet as it ever was, I'll tell you. Now, hopefully, we started something and we can win some more championships, but we're going to enjoy this one right now. Have a little champagne." --Julius Erving, May 12, 1976, ABA champion Nets locker room.

by Net Income on Dec 30, 2011 10:44 AM EST up reply actions  

As days go by

you’ll see there were more stuff you were wrong about

And that I was right about lol

Dwight or Bust
Nets lose 33+ games this season.

One of the BEST game a duo ever had
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3v4GS9t8o8&feature=related

by Shameer1016 on Dec 30, 2011 10:53 AM EST up reply actions  

so asking to get banned

DWill oop to D12
Otis Smith makes Travis Outlaw look like Avery Johnson

by 3ptChucker on Dec 30, 2011 1:10 PM EST up reply actions  

Plays Good D and Avery like that

Shakedaddy

by Thebrotherz on Dec 30, 2011 3:08 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions  

He's better as a playmaker

that’s for sure. They need to get back to basics.

by CurlyBeast on Dec 30, 2011 10:31 AM EST up reply actions  

I think right now

Avery is playing checkers with chess pieces he is just trying to make it work

My lil man.....can't tell me god don't exist.

by killa kadafi191 on Dec 30, 2011 10:33 AM EST up reply actions  

and considering

that DeShawn Stevenson admitted last night that he is still getting in shape and that Mehmet Okur has had ONE practice with the team…ONE…it’s going to take some time.

GMs usually wait one third of the season before they make moves, figuring that it takes that long to get a good read on what they have and what they need. This year, that is complicated because the NBA had 130 free agents who can’t be traded til March….plus the rookie contracts.

"It's as sweet as it ever was, I'll tell you. Now, hopefully, we started something and we can win some more championships, but we're going to enjoy this one right now. Have a little champagne." --Julius Erving, May 12, 1976, ABA champion Nets locker room.

by Net Income on Dec 30, 2011 10:39 AM EST up reply actions  

You know who woulda been a godsend for this lineup.....and i know he's under contract in china and cant play right now

Wilson Chandler…….but since he’s not available, AK would be a perfect fit, run the floor, block shots, can pass, hit open jumpers and most importantly NOT FUMBLE PASSES RIGHT IN HIS HANDS AS HE’S CUTTING TO THE BASKET a la stonehands(which i will take credit for naming sir damion james)

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by Angelo Mihalitsianos on Dec 30, 2011 10:35 AM EST reply actions  

we just need the right pieces to trade

pretty sure Utah would be kind enough to do an AK S&T if we can get them stuff they’d want

by stenpoint on Dec 30, 2011 10:39 AM EST up reply actions  

you know it doesnt have to be with Utah.

if there is a team out there who wants Farmar or another player and has the cap space, you can do a deal with them too.

"It's as sweet as it ever was, I'll tell you. Now, hopefully, we started something and we can win some more championships, but we're going to enjoy this one right now. Have a little champagne." --Julius Erving, May 12, 1976, ABA champion Nets locker room.

by Net Income on Dec 30, 2011 10:41 AM EST up reply actions  

yes, I think it will have to take a 3rd team

to either dump Farmar on, or for that 3rd team to get Farmar and then send a player Utah likes.

by stenpoint on Dec 30, 2011 10:43 AM EST up reply actions  

How about something like:

Farmar to Utah, Anthony Randolph to NJ, Raja Bell to Minnesota.

by Coach Joe on Dec 30, 2011 10:52 AM EST up reply actions  

LOL, like if there's another stupid enough to continue helping the Nets out

Dwight or Bust
Nets lose 33+ games this season.

One of the BEST game a duo ever had
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3v4GS9t8o8&feature=related

by Shameer1016 on Dec 30, 2011 10:45 AM EST up reply actions  

there are teams who like Farmar

He is only 25. He’s basically an expiring contract

"It's as sweet as it ever was, I'll tell you. Now, hopefully, we started something and we can win some more championships, but we're going to enjoy this one right now. Have a little champagne." --Julius Erving, May 12, 1976, ABA champion Nets locker room.

by Net Income on Dec 30, 2011 10:50 AM EST up reply actions  

He's a solid backup

but he wants to start.

Dwight or Bust
Nets lose 33+ games this season.

One of the BEST game a duo ever had
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3v4GS9t8o8&feature=related

by Shameer1016 on Dec 30, 2011 10:54 AM EST up reply actions  

incarceratedbob Incarcerated Bob
Nets fans i have a deal for you.. Shumpert & Amare & Fields for Deron Williams (Nets fans you either do it or lose D-Will for nothing!)
9 hours ago Favorite Reply

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by Angelo Mihalitsianos on Dec 30, 2011 10:39 AM EST reply actions  

incarcerated bob is a joke and a liar

"It's as sweet as it ever was, I'll tell you. Now, hopefully, we started something and we can win some more championships, but we're going to enjoy this one right now. Have a little champagne." --Julius Erving, May 12, 1976, ABA champion Nets locker room.

by Net Income on Dec 30, 2011 10:40 AM EST up reply actions  

this i know, that's why i tweeted him back.....he's an absolute clown
AngeloM316 Angelos Mihalitsiano
@
@incarceratedbob prefer to lose him for nothing and keep the ridiculous amount of capspace! Besides, he aint leaving 30mill on the table

Section15 Row 12 Seats 1&2

by Angelo Mihalitsianos on Dec 30, 2011 10:41 AM EST up reply actions  

ill do it...

Dwight or bust....
Superbowl or bust...

by D-Will2Nets on Dec 30, 2011 10:40 AM EST up reply actions  

Amare is my favorite player but I said this

NO WAY I WOULD GIVE HIM THAT CONTRACT. Now as long as he on the other side with that contract it’s cool

My lil man.....can't tell me god don't exist.

by killa kadafi191 on Dec 30, 2011 10:49 AM EST up reply actions  

but but but

the nets traded for Dwight 5x already according to him

by Dep on Dec 30, 2011 10:40 AM EST up reply actions  

I should violate this guy like on twitter lol

Dwight or Bust
Nets lose 33+ games this season.

One of the BEST game a duo ever had
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3v4GS9t8o8&feature=related

by Shameer1016 on Dec 30, 2011 10:41 AM EST up reply actions  

This guy is a joke

Said the Melo trade was done last year. Didn’t happen. Said Dwight was traded to the Lakers before the lockout. Didn’t happen. Said Dwight was traded to the Nets. Didn’t happen. He’s not a real source like he thinks he is.

by dwill8brooklynbound on Dec 30, 2011 10:41 AM EST up reply actions  

Five best NBA players in Europe

were D-Will, Kirilenko, Farmar, Batum and Parker.

D-Will, Farmar and Batum all struggling.

"It's as sweet as it ever was, I'll tell you. Now, hopefully, we started something and we can win some more championships, but we're going to enjoy this one right now. Have a little champagne." --Julius Erving, May 12, 1976, ABA champion Nets locker room.

by Net Income on Dec 30, 2011 10:42 AM EST reply actions  

so instead of overseas having them in

“mid season” form they are struggling??

while players like Lebron KD and the others who did those “fun games” are playing well

My lil man.....can't tell me god don't exist.

by killa kadafi191 on Dec 30, 2011 10:44 AM EST up reply actions  

no I'm not trying to be funny

I honestly agreed when NI said this. While the others playing those “fun games” seem to be okay.

My lil man.....can't tell me god don't exist.

by killa kadafi191 on Dec 30, 2011 10:46 AM EST up reply actions  

I got ya

Its just funny how things work out

as NI would say “unintended consequences” — something expected to be a plus works out to be a minus

by Dep on Dec 30, 2011 10:49 AM EST up reply actions  

does seem that way

Brooks played in two exhibition games and kept in shape by playing with the Providence Friars.

Hump worked out by himself.

"It's as sweet as it ever was, I'll tell you. Now, hopefully, we started something and we can win some more championships, but we're going to enjoy this one right now. Have a little champagne." --Julius Erving, May 12, 1976, ABA champion Nets locker room.

by Net Income on Dec 30, 2011 10:46 AM EST up reply actions  

Travis Outlol update

3 gms
2.7 ppg
.182 FG

Flashnews: he still stinks.

Cheer up Nets fans, it could be worse, Outlol could still be here if it weren’t for the lockout ol.

by Andres B on Dec 30, 2011 10:42 AM EST reply actions   1 recs

James did have 14 rebounds in Game 1

"It's as sweet as it ever was, I'll tell you. Now, hopefully, we started something and we can win some more championships, but we're going to enjoy this one right now. Have a little champagne." --Julius Erving, May 12, 1976, ABA champion Nets locker room.

by Net Income on Dec 30, 2011 10:47 AM EST up reply actions  

You know what they say

One game you look like LARRY BIRD
the next you look like LARRY KING

James is closer to KING then BIRD

by DWILL-of-the-GODZ on Dec 30, 2011 10:50 AM EST up reply actions  

I shook DJ's hand before the Hawks game and told him,

Keep getting those rebounds, keep doing what you do…. he laughed..

"Our greatest glory is not in never failing, but in rising up every time we fail." - Ralph Waldo Emerson

by MHages on Dec 30, 2011 12:20 PM EST up reply actions  

He's going to sign a deal soon so they can start selling his action figure

Dwight or Bust
Nets lose 33+ games this season.

One of the BEST game a duo ever had
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3v4GS9t8o8&feature=related

by Shameer1016 on Dec 30, 2011 10:49 AM EST up reply actions  

Knick fans everywhere are on the ledge today too

Their new plan is to trade an Amare-based package for Dwight

smh

by Dep on Dec 30, 2011 10:44 AM EST reply actions  

Amare had a bad game, they lose its simple as that

Dwight or Bust
Nets lose 33+ games this season.

One of the BEST game a duo ever had
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3v4GS9t8o8&feature=related

by Shameer1016 on Dec 30, 2011 10:49 AM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, a few Knick fans I know TRASHED the team today

Said Chandler is terrible, they miss Gallo, Amare is done, and that Melo is their only good player. It reminded me of netsdaily.

by dwill8brooklynbound on Dec 30, 2011 10:46 AM EST up reply actions  

he is not THAT stupid

is he?

"It's as sweet as it ever was, I'll tell you. Now, hopefully, we started something and we can win some more championships, but we're going to enjoy this one right now. Have a little champagne." --Julius Erving, May 12, 1976, ABA champion Nets locker room.

by Net Income on Dec 30, 2011 10:48 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

bring a

Florida boy back home? He could be. This is the same guy who loves Bynum injury prone self more than brook lopez. I agree Bynum is the better center but I wouldn’t trust him to stay healthy

My lil man.....can't tell me god don't exist.

by killa kadafi191 on Dec 30, 2011 10:50 AM EST up reply actions  

One guy averages 13 points the other averages 20 but yet Bynum is better?

It simple why people kiss BynumsMOISO hes strong he fat and he plays for the lakers

by Nets4Life(8) on Dec 30, 2011 10:53 AM EST up reply actions  

five years still guaranteed

no insurance.

Melo however is a great great player.

"It's as sweet as it ever was, I'll tell you. Now, hopefully, we started something and we can win some more championships, but we're going to enjoy this one right now. Have a little champagne." --Julius Erving, May 12, 1976, ABA champion Nets locker room.

by Net Income on Dec 30, 2011 10:47 AM EST up reply actions  

They took a huge risk

spending the 1-time amnesty on Billups to get Chandler instead of saving it for insurance agst Amare’s knees

Amare’s knees looked like they gave out at one point last nite, if he goes down – they are toast and in trouble long-term

by Dep on Dec 30, 2011 10:49 AM EST up reply actions  

Made my day
Melo however is a great great player.

Dwight or Bust
Nets lose 33+ games this season.

One of the BEST game a duo ever had
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3v4GS9t8o8&feature=related

by Shameer1016 on Dec 30, 2011 10:50 AM EST up reply actions  

he is indeed in the right system

"It's as sweet as it ever was, I'll tell you. Now, hopefully, we started something and we can win some more championships, but we're going to enjoy this one right now. Have a little champagne." --Julius Erving, May 12, 1976, ABA champion Nets locker room.

by Net Income on Dec 30, 2011 10:51 AM EST up reply actions  

I agree, but he get bashed too much

for the stuff he doesn’t do, and doesn’t get enough credit for the stuff he actually does quite well.

Dwight or Bust
Nets lose 33+ games this season.

One of the BEST game a duo ever had
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3v4GS9t8o8&feature=related

by Shameer1016 on Dec 30, 2011 10:54 AM EST up reply actions  

he needs to be surrounded by great defensive players

cuz he doesnt play a lick of D

and he can talk about playing D all day till the cows come home, but he just doesnt do it. His effort on D last nite was laughable

by Dep on Dec 30, 2011 10:57 AM EST up reply actions  

bah

let me stop hating on Melo

My lil man.....can't tell me god don't exist.

by killa kadafi191 on Dec 30, 2011 10:50 AM EST up reply actions  

Thank you DWill for "maning-up"; got to take care of the basketball!!
Williams said he’s "frustrated," and is rushing through the offense.

"I’m a person that relies on knowing where my teammates are and getting them involved and getting my confidence off getting assists. And I’m not doing that. I’m turning the ball over," said Williams who had six turnovers last night for a three-game total of 14. "So I’m just frustrated right now. I’ve got to do a better job of taking care of the ball, just relaxing and just playing basketball — not overthinking."


Read more: http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/nets/nets_rookie_brooks_making_early_sBzsEV5Pt0LhlJVMg6L0kI#ixzz1i27onu80

Niners,Nets,Reds & USC!!!

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by Kidd2Petrovic on Dec 30, 2011 10:47 AM EST reply actions  

He says all the right things, all stars do

but its just lawn fertilizer to me

Dwight or Bust
Nets lose 33+ games this season.

One of the BEST game a duo ever had
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3v4GS9t8o8&feature=related

by Shameer1016 on Dec 30, 2011 10:50 AM EST up reply actions  

okie dokie

dwill says nothing, he’s bad
dwill says something, he’s bad

sure, man. nothing new with what you’re saying.

by stenpoint on Dec 30, 2011 10:52 AM EST up reply actions  

all shameer is saying this is what all star say

When “Dwight says he wants to help Orlando win a championship.” people are saying these are just words.

One person could see Deron taking the blame while another could see him saying the players on the floor have something to do with his poor play

“I’m a person that relies on knowing where my teammates are and getting them involved and getting my confidence off getting assists.

If Deron confidence comes from the made buckets of his teammates we are in really big trouble

My lil man.....can't tell me god don't exist.

by killa kadafi191 on Dec 30, 2011 10:59 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

THIS!!!
If Deron confidence comes from the made buckets of his teammates we are in really big trouble

Maybe he’s not tanking after all lol

Dwight or Bust
Nets lose 33+ games this season.

One of the BEST game a duo ever had
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3v4GS9t8o8&feature=related

by Shameer1016 on Dec 30, 2011 11:31 AM EST up reply actions  

Petro is READY, my captain!!!!

"It's as sweet as it ever was, I'll tell you. Now, hopefully, we started something and we can win some more championships, but we're going to enjoy this one right now. Have a little champagne." --Julius Erving, May 12, 1976, ABA champion Nets locker room.

by Net Income on Dec 30, 2011 11:31 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

agreed...

some people in this forum like to look @ the comments half glass full, others half glass empty. And that part you highlighted can definitely go both ways.

Niners,Nets,Reds & USC!!!

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by Kidd2Petrovic on Dec 30, 2011 11:33 AM EST up reply actions  

groan.

what would you prefer him to say. He basically said “I stink”.

"It's as sweet as it ever was, I'll tell you. Now, hopefully, we started something and we can win some more championships, but we're going to enjoy this one right now. Have a little champagne." --Julius Erving, May 12, 1976, ABA champion Nets locker room.

by Net Income on Dec 30, 2011 10:52 AM EST up reply actions  

wow guessing "accountablity" is a concept you never seen before out of players?

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by Kidd2Petrovic on Dec 30, 2011 10:52 AM EST up reply actions  

Honestly

I don’t want him to say anything, just play better. Or Am I off base with that comment?

Dwight or Bust
Nets lose 33+ games this season.

One of the BEST game a duo ever had
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3v4GS9t8o8&feature=related

by Shameer1016 on Dec 30, 2011 10:57 AM EST up reply actions  

It's one thing for you or I to want him to play & just do it...

It’s another for a player to actually say I’m playing like moiso. That is a sign of leadership. You must be able to self-evaluate yourself & say what can I do better for this team, before you go out there talking about others. Especially with this crazy media circus is in your face 24/7 during a 4 in 4days stretch

Niners,Nets,Reds & USC!!!

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by Kidd2Petrovic on Dec 30, 2011 11:02 AM EST up reply actions  

*4games in 4 days stretch

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by Kidd2Petrovic on Dec 30, 2011 11:04 AM EST up reply actions  

I'm just at the point where talk is simply just too cheap

Play better or continue selling the Moiso to the optimistic fans. I’m not saying he’s a bad player, because we only played 3 games, but he hasn’t played like the player many praised him to be.

Dwight or Bust
Nets lose 33+ games this season.

One of the BEST game a duo ever had
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3v4GS9t8o8&feature=related

by Shameer1016 on Dec 30, 2011 11:07 AM EST up reply actions  

seems you have been "burned" with this talk before....

cause I’ve never seen him “selling” as you stay. He’s been a pretty straight forward guy ever since he has been here from UTAH with all his interviews!!

Niners,Nets,Reds & USC!!!

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by Kidd2Petrovic on Dec 30, 2011 11:30 AM EST up reply actions  

Straight forward my rectum

Jazz traded him to avoid this crap, and ALL star players say the right things. And I’ve hardly ever been burned before with any debates, because I just call it as a I see it. Keep it short, simple, and sweet like some cake, WE SUCK :-)

Dwight or Bust
Nets lose 33+ games this season.

One of the BEST game a duo ever had
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3v4GS9t8o8&feature=related

by Shameer1016 on Dec 30, 2011 11:34 AM EST up reply actions  

you're right, RIGHT NOW Nets do suck...

but the other part of him not being straight up is your way of viewing it. Which seems,talk like this has personally burned you!!

Niners,Nets,Reds & USC!!!

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by Kidd2Petrovic on Dec 30, 2011 11:43 AM EST up reply actions  

I disagree, but where just beating a dead horse now

and We sucked previous season, this season, ad future seasons :-)

Dwight or Bust
Nets lose 33+ games this season.

One of the BEST game a duo ever had
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3v4GS9t8o8&feature=related

by Shameer1016 on Dec 30, 2011 11:47 AM EST up reply actions  

ok nostradamus ;-) (in reference to future seasons)

agree to disagree

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by Kidd2Petrovic on Dec 30, 2011 11:51 AM EST up reply actions  

For now

Dwight or Bust
Nets lose 33+ games this season.

One of the BEST game a duo ever had
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3v4GS9t8o8&feature=related

by Shameer1016 on Dec 30, 2011 12:05 PM EST up reply actions  

DWill is trying to do too much right now.

He knows we need scoring and is pressing too much.

I think Brooks at the SG will allow him to be the playmaker again instead of trying to be a scorer

by DWILL-of-the-GODZ on Dec 30, 2011 10:53 AM EST up reply actions  

was saying it yesterday he is trying to do toooooo much..

he definitely does need marshon next to him. But it’s all on Avery to run set plays with DWill & Brooks off the dribble to get all these damn “shooters” we have on this team open. Until Avery’s playbook is understood & people get it, it doesn’t matter who you bring-in off a trade right now!!

Niners,Nets,Reds & USC!!!

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by Kidd2Petrovic on Dec 30, 2011 10:56 AM EST up reply actions  

he's a PG not a SG...

DWill’s game is getting others involved, while picking his spots to get his own shoot off. Hence the fact he is almost a triple-double machine every night when he is ON his game!!

Niners,Nets,Reds & USC!!!

The Most Interesting Man In The World---->Mikhail Prokhorov!!!

by Kidd2Petrovic on Dec 30, 2011 11:12 AM EST up reply actions  

Huh?!

He sure as hell didn’t average 20 PPG by passing up open shots.

Dwight or Bust
Nets lose 33+ games this season.

One of the BEST game a duo ever had
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3v4GS9t8o8&feature=related

by Shameer1016 on Dec 30, 2011 11:14 AM EST up reply actions  

dude DWill said it himself....

bq.

"I’m a person that relies on knowing where my teammates are and getting them involved and getting my confidence off getting assists.

I’m saying he is a triple double machine waiting to happen almost everynight. Yes he drops almost 20pts every night but that’s because he picks his spots to do be aggressive in making baskets.

He truly is the closest thing to J-Kidd when he played here for the nets, except DWill has a better jumper, while JKidd played better defense!!

Niners,Nets,Reds & USC!!!

The Most Interesting Man In The World---->Mikhail Prokhorov!!!

by Kidd2Petrovic on Dec 30, 2011 11:23 AM EST up reply actions  

He might be the closest thing to Kidd

but that doesn’t mean he’s not far off from the player Kidd was.

Dwight or Bust
Nets lose 33+ games this season.

One of the BEST game a duo ever had
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3v4GS9t8o8&feature=related

by Shameer1016 on Dec 30, 2011 11:25 AM EST up reply actions  

agreed..

again half glass full, half glass empty. Yes it can go either way!!

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by Kidd2Petrovic on Dec 30, 2011 11:37 AM EST up reply actions  

LOL,

come on now, glass is always half emptied in my eyes. And when it comes to star players words, its not half empty or half full, its just full of something that’s not water.

Dwight or Bust
Nets lose 33+ games this season.

One of the BEST game a duo ever had
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3v4GS9t8o8&feature=related

by Shameer1016 on Dec 30, 2011 11:39 AM EST up reply actions  

Case of semantics!!

You admittance of a pessimistic view, which I can respect. But you also have to realize some may say be thankful you even have any water in that glass. Yet alone being not a drop of water but a half full one….

Niners,Nets,Reds & USC!!!

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by Kidd2Petrovic on Dec 30, 2011 11:49 AM EST up reply actions  

Thankful?

All I know is some Mosio took some water out of my Moiso glass ;-)

Dwight or Bust
Nets lose 33+ games this season.

One of the BEST game a duo ever had
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3v4GS9t8o8&feature=related

by Shameer1016 on Dec 30, 2011 12:06 PM EST up reply actions  

LMAO....what if that same moiso took your glass? NO AGUA!!

then what would you say….

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by Kidd2Petrovic on Dec 30, 2011 12:09 PM EST up reply actions  

yea morrow is struggling haaaard...

he definitely needs to come of the bench & maybe play against the other teams backups (inferior competition) instead of the starters to find his shot again!!

Niners,Nets,Reds & USC!!!

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by Kidd2Petrovic on Dec 30, 2011 11:26 AM EST up reply actions  

This is what I was waiting for.

Now Avery do your job change the lineup to what it should be:

DWill, Brooks, Stevenson, Hump, Okur
Gaines/Farmar, Morrow, DJ, ShaWill, Petro/SheWill

That is the rotation. Stop the BS Avery or you will get my OPIE WRATH.

by SIC One on Dec 30, 2011 10:54 AM EST up reply actions  

Against the Hawks though, who have big wings

Stevenson at SG could be a better match-up to start against Joe Johnson.
James at SF against Marvin Willams.

Avery should run more Utah-style pick-and-roll with DWill and Okur to start.

Marshon the first SG off the bench. Morrow in some stretches like Kerr/Korver.
Shawne as SF back-up.

by stenpoint on Dec 30, 2011 11:04 AM EST up reply actions  

ah

well I applaud D-Will, he is reacting as a man should.

Now just do it on the court

by MrDollarBills on Dec 30, 2011 11:24 AM EST up reply actions  

By keeping reading those killa and shameer comments, I may commit suicide by the end of the week. You are just so negative since day 1 you have been posting here. Even if we were 0-82 i wouldn’t be that pessimistic. Smile guys!

by valdu08 on Dec 30, 2011 10:54 AM EST reply actions  

Moiso the knicks, care about nets taking care of this turnover/stagnant offense crap

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by Kidd2Petrovic on Dec 30, 2011 11:06 AM EST up reply actions  

Not trying to come off as a moiso

but Nets need to win games is just more important to me. eventhough it is good to make fun of the Nix but Nets are a laughing stock as well!!

Niners,Nets,Reds & USC!!!

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by Kidd2Petrovic on Dec 30, 2011 11:08 AM EST up reply actions  

right now

Niners,Nets,Reds & USC!!!

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by Kidd2Petrovic on Dec 30, 2011 11:09 AM EST up reply actions  

I agree, I've never worried about the Knicks

Dwight or Bust
Nets lose 33+ games this season.

One of the BEST game a duo ever had
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3v4GS9t8o8&feature=related

by Shameer1016 on Dec 30, 2011 11:14 AM EST up reply actions  

did not think this was real...

Can you guys believe that deron Williams is number 3 in the top ten for turnovers??? Thought he was one of the top PG’s in the league… This is almost as embarrassing as having the same record as the NYK…..

by trippy on Dec 30, 2011 11:06 AM EST via iPhone app reply actions  

Not really considering they're supposed to be competing for a title

but its embarrassing that we can’t score `80 points in a game and that we’ve been blown out in both our loses

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by netsareboss on Dec 30, 2011 11:07 AM EST up reply actions  

SMH!!!!

If you looked at all the HOF PGs you will see that they tend to have a lot of TOs. So your trolling comment is ridiculous. For them to be very good Passing PGs they have to take chances on passes.

So Please Leave.

by SIC One on Dec 30, 2011 11:19 AM EST up reply actions  

Deron won't turn the ball over that much for the season

Book it, Deron won’t average 5.3 TOs.

Just as Westbrook won’t average 6.2 TOs the rest of the way either.

by stenpoint on Dec 30, 2011 11:24 AM EST up reply actions  

To add

Here’s the Top 5 in TOs so far.

1. Westbrook – 6.2
2. Rondo – 5.3
3. DWill – 5.3
4. Wall – 5
5. Nash -5

It’s the first few games. Should put things in context.

by stenpoint on Dec 30, 2011 11:28 AM EST up reply actions  

Is that league leaders? or just PG's?

Dwight or Bust
Nets lose 33+ games this season.

One of the BEST game a duo ever had
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3v4GS9t8o8&feature=related

by Shameer1016 on Dec 30, 2011 11:31 AM EST up reply actions  

funny how

Rose isnt on this list.

LOL!!! It is because Rose isnt a pass first PG.

by SIC One on Dec 30, 2011 11:47 AM EST up reply actions  

In three games

"It's as sweet as it ever was, I'll tell you. Now, hopefully, we started something and we can win some more championships, but we're going to enjoy this one right now. Have a little champagne." --Julius Erving, May 12, 1976, ABA champion Nets locker room.

by Net Income on Dec 30, 2011 11:33 AM EST up reply actions  

as unpopular as it may be, i'm an avery johnson fan but

sometimes i wonder if he’s in the category of NBA coaches who have the ‘college’ coach mentality. a little too controlling with the X’s & O’s and not remembering the NBA is players league. put the best guys on the floor, get your subsitution rotations set and let the guys play as opposed to over think.

then again, in his defense, he’s had consistently poor rosters since taking over….

imagine something extremely witty here

by Gminski on Dec 30, 2011 11:06 AM EST reply actions  

Avery knows what he is doing except picking players in free agency.

BK and DWill handled that job this year, with Howard in mind.

He has been successful getting his 12 member rotation of players into game shape and then learning to work with DWill and learn the Nets plays. In every game there has been noticeable improvement.

DWill is frustrated with himself. He said so. Last season he was getting way more assists with less talent.
Everything will be alright.

And people forget we are without Brook Lopez.

by jerry25 on Dec 30, 2011 11:14 AM EST up reply actions  

agree

mostly

imagine something extremely witty here

by Gminski on Dec 30, 2011 11:23 AM EST up reply actions  

True definition of putting that D on someone.

Dwight or Bust
Nets lose 33+ games this season.

One of the BEST game a duo ever had
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3v4GS9t8o8&feature=related

by Shameer1016 on Dec 30, 2011 11:17 AM EST up reply actions  

This is how you stop Lebron from scoring

take notes Nets.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UDNEuXlgcCE&feature=g-logo&context=G271ab3dFOAAAAAAAPAA

Dwight or Bust
Nets lose 33+ games this season.

One of the BEST game a duo ever had
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3v4GS9t8o8&feature=related

by Shameer1016 on Dec 30, 2011 11:20 AM EST reply actions  

That's because Bobcats figure it out to late XD

This is literally how you use your head to stop a player. And have you see She Willz head? Dude can stop traffic with that thing.

Dwight or Bust
Nets lose 33+ games this season.

One of the BEST game a duo ever had
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3v4GS9t8o8&feature=related

by Shameer1016 on Dec 30, 2011 11:35 AM EST up reply actions  

who cares

He is a punk. Great basketball player but a punk

Official Member of the "DO NOT ABUSE BROOK LOPEZ" Movement

by NDTony on Dec 30, 2011 11:31 AM EST up reply actions  

Why is it that our team

is practically being kept from extreme blowouts because of a ROOKIE. Our rookie seems to be the only one who doesn’t quit when we’re losing. I like that attitude. Knowing the little I know about MarShon, I’m hoping that his attitude and as well as DJ Hustle/Stonehands spreads through the team and the crowd. We need something to get this team going, whether its the fans at the game or the players, but the players gotta start winning before they expect people to buy tickets when they know theres a chance of getting blown out at home. Deron needs to step and be the Top 10 player that he is, Morrow’s gotta find his shooting touch back, and everyone else has got to do there part and atleast hit the open jumpers.

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by netsareboss on Dec 30, 2011 11:32 AM EST reply actions  

I'm not worried about, and no one should be

he’s just in a slump

Dwight or Bust
Nets lose 33+ games this season.

One of the BEST game a duo ever had
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3v4GS9t8o8&feature=related

by Shameer1016 on Dec 30, 2011 11:38 AM EST up reply actions  

Still doesnt change the reality

Morrow isnt a starting SG. He is a very good role player coming off the bench, but NO WHERE near a starting SG.

by SIC One on Dec 30, 2011 11:38 AM EST up reply actions  

That's fine, I'd like him in a Kyle Korver role too.

But people are criticizing him like he’s a worthless player. They’re coming to terms with that reality now, as if it wasn’t something that was know last year.

by OTRWaldo on Dec 30, 2011 11:42 AM EST up reply actions  

He's worthless if he's not making his shots

because that’s all he can do. Not handle the ball, pass, drive, defend, or any other thing.

Korver or Kerr or any of the great specialist jump shooters would be pretty useless too if they’re not making shots.

Yeah, Morrow should come around but he’s an off-the-bench guy for sure.

by stenpoint on Dec 30, 2011 11:53 AM EST up reply actions  

Again, I'm not arguing that he shouldn't be coming off the bench.

All I’m saying is give it a few more games. After all, he’s not the only one whose shots aren’t going down. The players weren’t all prepared for the abrupt end to the lockout, and a condensed training camp still leaves room for sloppy play.

by OTRWaldo on Dec 30, 2011 11:58 AM EST up reply actions  

some of those guys back in the day could at least play defense if shot is not working

ala: Bruce Bowen from the spurs(career .393% from 3) can knock down at three on the reg. & play defense or Shane Battier now!!

That’s why I’m hoping D.Stevenson gets into shape asap!!

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by Kidd2Petrovic on Dec 30, 2011 12:02 PM EST up reply actions  

that's why we got Stevenson

as our D-and-3 guy
Morrow as our no-D or anything else jump shooter
and Brooks, the rookie wildcard

by stenpoint on Dec 30, 2011 12:08 PM EST up reply actions  

so who thinks

deshawn should start over damion?

wolves never rest

by pope of lofe on Dec 30, 2011 12:07 PM EST reply actions  

Should be

D will
Brooks
Stevenson
Hump
Okur

by 1stnamelastname on Dec 30, 2011 12:09 PM EST up reply actions  

against the Hawks

I’d start Stevenson at SG against Joe Johnson
and keep James at SF against Marvin Williams

Marshon as our Crawford 6th man, first SG off the bench
Morrow as our Korver

by stenpoint on Dec 30, 2011 12:11 PM EST up reply actions  

+1

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The Most Interesting Man In The World---->Mikhail Prokhorov!!!

by Kidd2Petrovic on Dec 30, 2011 12:11 PM EST up reply actions  

The way D-Will has been playing I don't even care if he leaves.

He needs to step it up and prove he is worth what we traded for him.

@NetsROC

by NetsROC on Dec 30, 2011 3:49 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

I'm tired of everyone giving this guy a pass because they are scared he will leave.

He needs to step up and play like the player everyone says he is.

@NetsROC

by NetsROC on Dec 30, 2011 3:50 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

I think Shawne Williams is starting to get his groove back a little but he should be used as a stetch 4

He looks a legit 6’9 out there with long arms, but is still not in the shape he was in last year.

"We're not there yet, but we're going somewhere," Johnson said. "And we're going to Brooklyn. We're not going to contract. We're going to Brooklyn."

by Atronic on Dec 30, 2011 4:04 PM EST reply actions  

Deron Williams is not a leader

D-Will is one heck of a point guard but he ain’t a guy who can lead in the locker room. IMO

by Still_a_Nets_fan! on Dec 30, 2011 5:14 PM EST reply actions  

we need some vets on this team. proven leader.

Prince or Billups would have been awesome. we should have gotten one of em

by Still_a_Nets_fan! on Dec 30, 2011 5:17 PM EST up reply actions  

i dont have to

i can tell i can read their body language.
U obviously cant tell cause u don’t know anything about basketball

by Still_a_Nets_fan! on Dec 30, 2011 6:01 PM EST up reply actions  

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