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Three Rookies, Three Stories

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When the Nets take the court tonight, they will have three rookies on the roster, two in uniform. Although they sent their lottery pick in the 2011 Draft to the Jazz (who took Enes Kanter of Turkey), they wound up with three picks, MarShon Brooks, Bojan Bogdanovic and Jordan Williams. Bogdanovic, of course, remains in Turkey.

The Nets long thought the Brooks would wind up in the rotation and indeed, it looks like he will, as the energy guy who can put points on the board quickly. Williams, they expected, would need a lot of time in Springfield and that, too, is likely. The big surprise of course, is that 6'9" forward, Dennis Horner, made the roster after three games at Springfield and a solid training camp.

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MarShon Brooks, 6'5", 200, 22 years old. Drafted by the Celtics at #25 as part of a pre-arranged deal with the Nets. Billy King sent the rights to the #27 pick, JaJuan Johnson, and their 2014 second rounder to Boston for Brooks. the The second leading scorer in the NCAA last season, behind the much better known Jimmer Fredette of BYU. Brooks averaged 24.6 ppg and a surprising 7.0 rebounds from the back court. As athletic as any Nets draft pick in the last decade or more, Brooks also has the proverbial pterodactyl wingspan, 7'1". That's longer than Kris Humphries and equates to the normal wingspan for a player 6'8" or 6'9". He is, however, thin for an NBA shooting guard. Biggest compliment: "He's got a little Kobe in him" - Tim Grover, Kobe Bryant's trainer. Avery Johnson paired Brooks with Deron Williams in workouts so he could learn how a top professional prepares. Born at Monmouth Medical Center in Long Branch, NJ, he lived in Asbury Park till he was six, then moved to Georgia.

Jordan Williams, 6'10", 260, 21 years old. Drafted at #36, the sixth pick in the second round. The third leading rebounder in the NCAA with 11.8 boards a game to go with 16.9 points per game for Maryland. Left College Park after his sophomore year. He trimmed down after leaving Maryland and looked svelte at the time of the draft. However, as Jonathan Abrams wrote in Grantland, Williams "entered camp with weight to lose and started dropping it pretty rapidly. The effects exhausted Williams, and doctors recommend he sit out at least a week's worth of practices". He only returned to practice Monday. Bottom line: he's a project, but at #36, that's what you get. A native of Torrington, CT, he averaged 35.7 points and 20 rebounds in senior year in high school.

Dennis Horner, 6'9", 230, 23 years old. Undrafted out of North Carolina State in 2010 where didn't average double figures until his senior year. He played in Belgium and Cyprus last season. He was initally cut by VOO Verviers-Pepinster of Belgium, then moved to Cyprus where he averaged 11.6 points, 5.6 rebounds and 1.1 assists for Hasapis Omonia Nicosia. Taken with the last pick in the third round of the D-League Draft, Horner started off well in Springfield, averaging 15 points and 7.7 rebounds. In his last game, he scored 20 points, shooting 7 for 15, including 2 for 5 from deep, and grabbed nine rebounds. One of three Armor players who were called up...only one to make it. All-State selection at Holy Spirit High School in Atlantic City in 2006.

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don't want to sound negative

but I really hope that Okur is ready to play some major minutes and some defense. McGee and even Turiaf will likely beast Petro =(

by viridus on Dec 26, 2011 2:35 PM EST reply actions  

that's not negative. thats reality.

"It's as sweet as it ever was, I'll tell you. Now, hopefully, we started something and we can win some more championships, but we're going to enjoy this one right now. Have a little champagne." --Julius Erving, May 12, 1976, ABA champion Nets locker room.

by Net Income on Dec 26, 2011 2:38 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Just need to put a body on McGee still a little light

"We're not there yet, but we're going somewhere," Johnson said. "And we're going to Brooklyn. We're not going to contract. We're going to Brooklyn."

by Atronic on Dec 26, 2011 2:43 PM EST up reply actions  

What McGee is 250 now? lol

But he’ll get a stern test right off the bat when he faces off with McGee, a 7-foot, 250-pound physical specimen.

Read more: http://www.nypost.com/p/blogs/netsblog/game_nets_at_wizards_VVqLyOcyZUVL5YCP1JSqdO#ixzz1hfi3Av3g

"We're not there yet, but we're going somewhere," Johnson said. "And we're going to Brooklyn. We're not going to contract. We're going to Brooklyn."

by Atronic on Dec 26, 2011 2:45 PM EST up reply actions  

6 games in 8 nights will whip guys into shape

"I define passion as extreme emotion."

When you have to shoot, shoot don't talk.

by universal on Dec 26, 2011 3:37 PM EST up reply actions  

This part
Avery Johnson paired Brooks with Deron Williams in workouts so he could learn how a top professional prepares.

I like

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by netsareboss on Dec 26, 2011 2:35 PM EST reply actions  

He's learning from the best

It’s on marshon to take advantage of this opportunity

by Chakroot on Dec 26, 2011 2:40 PM EST up reply actions  

Good he gets to go against Stevenson in practice

GOing at Morrow every day would not help his development.

"We're not there yet, but we're going somewhere," Johnson said. "And we're going to Brooklyn. We're not going to contract. We're going to Brooklyn."

by Atronic on Dec 26, 2011 2:42 PM EST up reply actions  

Have a lot of hope MarShon will be a special player

I think at first he’ll have a rough time because he’s getting accustomed to the NBA game, but after awhile I expect him to make an impact on this team.

by JerseysFinest. on Dec 26, 2011 2:39 PM EST reply actions  

OT, but this made me laugh

the game description from the wizards SBNation blog

The Washington Wizards take on the New Jersey Nets tonight in their season opener at the Verizon Center. Read on to find out more about the Wizards’ opponent, which is basically Deron Williams, an injured Brook Lopez and a bunch of random dudes the Nets are hoping to somehow turn into Dwight Howard.

by William_H_HOLLA on Dec 26, 2011 2:46 PM EST reply actions  

lol

kinda sorta really trueish

by corky_romano4life on Dec 26, 2011 2:50 PM EST up reply actions  

So true

Section 18, Row 7 at The Rock!
"Your 2010-2011 New Jersey Nets - It Is What It Is"

by eLonepb on Dec 26, 2011 5:41 PM EST up reply actions  

getting 2k12

Dwight or bust....
Superbowl or bust...

by D-Will2Nets on Dec 26, 2011 2:51 PM EST reply actions  

would u say...

MarShon will be our 6th man this year? seems like thats the role were going with for him..

by WuSwarM36 on Dec 26, 2011 3:00 PM EST reply actions  

until brook comes back who knows?

but Okur would be the 6th man with a full healthy lineup….
which would be ideal for everybody

by netsball on Dec 26, 2011 3:15 PM EST up reply actions  

I see Shawne moreso

As a sixth man being he can play SF or PF and is older and more experienced.

by Jack Handy Jr on Dec 26, 2011 3:55 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Just think....when we get Lopez back,

our bench rotation will be Okur, Morrow, Brooks, Shawne, Farmar. I’m assuming Stevenson will start in the near future.
Sparse minutes to SheWill, Gaines, Petro,and Horner.
Petro did show something in the last Knicks game, lets hope he builds on that.

And I still say we try to offer Indiana Farmar, Petro and Morrow for Granger whoever else they wanna throw in. We may have to add a future second rounder, possibly 1rst.

They need another PG, don’t think they are sure about Collison. They could use another big body in Petro. Morrow would slide into the SG spot and Paul George up to SF.

I think that would help both teams, and NI mentioned INdiana will listen to offers for Granger.

Our lineup would look pretty nice.

Deron
Stevenson
Granger
Hump
OKur

by bkfire on Dec 26, 2011 4:42 PM EST up reply actions  

I wish

I think our best wing to target would be Ellis with his issues in GS and the fact they may have to move him to make their back court effective.

I got one GS fan to bite on Farmar, Morrow, Petro, HOU #1 for Ellis. He’s such a polarizing figure there though, it’s hard to gauge what it would take to get him.

by Jack Handy Jr on Dec 26, 2011 6:28 PM EST up reply actions  

Need that pick for Howard.

I wouldn’t mind Ellis, but I prefer a stud SF.

by bkfire on Dec 26, 2011 9:51 PM EST up reply actions  

yeah...but only by the fact that they are both 6'10 and white

other then that…ryan trumps over this huy horner..
bet u all a $1 each that horner is cut by mid season

by netsball on Dec 26, 2011 3:17 PM EST up reply actions  

yeah i was waiting for the comparison

Anderson was a good player when even on the Nets. I hated that trade. I wish Anderson and lee were both left out.

by Jack Handy Jr on Dec 26, 2011 3:57 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Yeah anderson had like 20-10 yesterday no comparisons.

"We're not there yet, but we're going somewhere," Johnson said. "And we're going to Brooklyn. We're not going to contract. We're going to Brooklyn."

by Atronic on Dec 26, 2011 4:11 PM EST up reply actions  

6 threes…

@ HowardBeckNYT
Deal done, source says. NBA is back.
-November 26th, 3:17 am.

by Andy. on Dec 26, 2011 4:12 PM EST up reply actions  

Hope For MarShon Too!

I hope Avery Johnson is working feverishly to get Brooks in the starting lineup as the 2 guard because, as much as I like Morrow, he’s like too many other Nets’ players on bad teams in the past – he doesn’t do anything on the court beyond his specialty. A Basketball game is made up of a totality of the statistics – points, rebounds, assists, blocks, steals – each team generates toward the final score.

The Net’s have had too many players in the past, Jason Collins comes to mind (typical game – 3 pts, 4 rebounds) , who’ve spent 30 minutes or more on the court and added nothing to the teams’ stat line. It allows the other team to play 5 on 4 ball. When Ammo isn’t scoring, like the last pre-season game against the Knicks, he does nothing else that’s quantifiable on the stat sheet. We need a 2-guard who can score, rebound, create steals, play defense and make the other team respect that he’s on the court. I think MarShon has the potential to be that person more than Ammo. His game is much more rounded than Ammo’s and will fit better into making the Nets a playoff team.

I was glad to see him sacrifice his body to challenge Tyson Chandler at the rim and prevent the dunk in Wednesday’s game. It showed how much heart and courage he has.

by swampdog #1 on Dec 26, 2011 3:16 PM EST reply actions  

He looked lost both games

i think he will get better but he still a rookie who should get more confident

by Aidar Berlinbayev on Dec 26, 2011 3:20 PM EST up reply actions  

i didn't think he looked lost

his shots weren’t falling and his confidence was shaken..tahts all…i really do think marshon is talented..but it’ll all depend on how his games translates his team…

on the other hand…i feel that the dark side is near with him…he doesn’t seem like a player who’ll be effective playing team basketball….kinda see a lot of that jerry stackhouse/glenn robinson mentality with him

by netsball on Dec 26, 2011 3:23 PM EST up reply actions  

i'll say one thing i liked about MarShon though....

his defense as a whole leaves a lot to be desired but i saw some nice hustle plays where he slid over and tried to take a charge with amar’e or chandler coming at him. earned a little bit of respect from me.

by SamsHops on Dec 26, 2011 4:47 PM EST up reply actions  

Really hope Avery gives MarShon some minutes. Nets need all the offense they can get.
All we have right now is Dwill and a bunch of spot up shooters..,.

Go Nets!

@ HowardBeckNYT
Deal done, source says. NBA is back.
-November 26th, 3:17 am.

by Andy. on Dec 26, 2011 3:20 PM EST reply actions  

I Wouldn't mind if Stevvenson Can Fill Up The Stat Sheet.

Your 2-guard and small forward have to be among your biggest stat producers – preferably points – if your team is going to have a chance to win.

by swampdog #1 on Dec 26, 2011 3:22 PM EST reply actions  

This

And I’m worried we would have the same problem with dwight. We have all role players on the wings. We need at least one starting quality player who can create for himself and others on the wing. Maybe MarShon can be that, but I don’t think just yet.

by Jack Handy Jr on Dec 26, 2011 4:01 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Billy king will take care of that.l

The big fish is the hardest to find. once u have 2 big fishes, all the other fishes are easier to get… NEMO

by shaolinbees on Dec 26, 2011 4:05 PM EST up reply actions  

only other shot creator has to be

Morrow and stevenson needs to be fed, when there shot isn’t falling can’t get to the free throw line.

"We're not there yet, but we're going somewhere," Johnson said. "And we're going to Brooklyn. We're not going to contract. We're going to Brooklyn."

by Atronic on Dec 26, 2011 4:38 PM EST up reply actions  

yea but you've been hating on Brooks since day 1

even still, knowing Avery I might agree with you. SG position is a little thicker than our other spots on the floor, and Avery hates rookies.

by sheepareevil on Dec 26, 2011 4:57 PM EST up reply actions  

I don't have a problem with it

both Morrow and Stevenson are better than him

by Andres B on Dec 26, 2011 5:21 PM EST up reply actions  

LMAO

Lopez overrated? WHAT!?!?

Official Member of the "Travis OutLOL Society". 5 years, 35 Million Dollars worth of lulz.

by David28 on Dec 26, 2011 4:13 PM EST up reply actions  

I am now noticing the trend of "Brook Lopez is overrated".

We are going to hear it like hell now that he is injured.

I think it's fine.

by NetsMets4Life on Dec 26, 2011 4:15 PM EST up reply actions  

But why?

How is a near 20 ppg Center overrated? If anything he is UNDERRATED around the league!
Just because he had on bad rebounding year everyone says he is terrible.

Official Member of the "Travis OutLOL Society". 5 years, 35 Million Dollars worth of lulz.

by David28 on Dec 26, 2011 4:54 PM EST up reply actions  

Talent Will Out!

I think MarShon has more natural Talent than either Ammo ot Stevenson and if the coaches are patient and let him play, it will show. They can’t yank him after each mistake – too many NBA careers were ruined by coaches refusing to let young guys play thru their mistakes.

by swampdog #1 on Dec 26, 2011 4:07 PM EST reply actions  

U know guys if we didnt make the d-will trade

we probably woulda been the 2nd pick and got derrick williams
so our lineup woulda been
harris
morrow
derrick williams
favors
lopez

by pinkppantherjr on Dec 26, 2011 4:35 PM EST reply actions  

this quote in itself makes me believe King knows he's getting D12
“I’ve had quite a few conversations with agents and had some good conversations,” King said. “I’d say we’re making progress. When you have the potential for cap space as we have, I would expect to have conversations.”

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/teams/njn/report

by JerseysFinest. on Dec 26, 2011 4:36 PM EST reply actions  

sounds like B LO expexts to in Orlando soon enough
I’m trying to ignore it, but I have friends in Orlando who are texting me and telling me I’m coming there."

by Aidar Berlinbayev on Dec 26, 2011 5:10 PM EST up reply actions  

DeronWilliams
On my way the Verizon Center for the game tonight against the Wizards! #LetsGetIt

2 hours, can’t wait!

by ItsAllNets on Dec 26, 2011 4:58 PM EST reply actions  

Jesus christ

this “rook” dude is so off base I’m just gonna stop responding.

“the Nets would suck in year 1 of Deron and Dwight.”

Uhhhh ok.

by NetsKiNG on Dec 26, 2011 5:07 PM EST up reply actions  

lol was gonna keep going

but why bother? Knick fan in wizards clothing

by SamsHops on Dec 26, 2011 5:09 PM EST up reply actions  

lol yeah what was that about just looked over there

It literally is 7 nets fans against 2 Wizards, who don’t like superstar players apparently and has not kept up with the news regarding Dwight whats really going on behind the scenes.

"We're not there yet, but we're going somewhere," Johnson said. "And we're going to Brooklyn. We're not going to contract. We're going to Brooklyn."

by Atronic on Dec 26, 2011 5:11 PM EST up reply actions  

Between "wok lee" and "rook"

I don’t think I’m ever going back to the Wizards board again. My god.

by NetsKiNG on Dec 26, 2011 5:20 PM EST up reply actions  

i just hope we get howard

because i know we’ll be a wrecking crew, and i’ll have such a great time saying i told you so

by SamsHops on Dec 26, 2011 5:26 PM EST up reply actions  

Stevenson vs MarShon....

Maybe Stevenson coming out of shape may be the boost and playing time that MarShon needs to find himself. Maybe playing against second team talent will ease his defensive shortcomings. It will take at least a week or two for Stevenson to round into shape. By the time he is ready, maybe he plays behind the eventual Rookie Of The Year, MarShon Brooks!
I dream of winning the power ball lottery too.

Paul from Sunny Delray Beach, Florida

by PaulErstein on Dec 26, 2011 5:07 PM EST reply actions  

Its good to have Marshon battle Stevenson in practice

Even tho I like Marshon I would rather him come off the bench first battle other bench players get comfortable with the speed of the NBA game.

"We're not there yet, but we're going somewhere," Johnson said. "And we're going to Brooklyn. We're not going to contract. We're going to Brooklyn."

by Atronic on Dec 26, 2011 5:12 PM EST up reply actions  

brettyormark Brett Yormark
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@DeronWilliams let get one dw. Best from brett.

by Andres B on Dec 26, 2011 5:35 PM EST reply actions  

Awkwarddd

Section 18, Row 7 at The Rock!
"Your 2010-2011 New Jersey Nets - It Is What It Is"

by eLonepb on Dec 26, 2011 5:40 PM EST up reply actions  

1 hour 20 min

ITS A VVVVVVCCCCCCCCCCC THREEEEEEEEEEEEE

by Keysta101 on Dec 26, 2011 5:41 PM EST reply actions  

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