Avery: 13 of 15 Nets Ready To Go
by Net Income on Dec 24, 2011 4:01 PM EST
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PrintAvery Johnson told beat writers Saturday that all the Nets, other than Brook Lopez and Jordan Williams, will be ready for action Monday when the Nets open in Washington vs. the Wizards. Lopez, of course, is recovering from foot surgery and Williams hasn't practiced after a bout of dehydration.
Mehmet Okur arrived about 1 a.m. Saturday, got 2-3 hours of sleep, but looked "OK" at practice, said Johnson. He'll play Monday. Okur said his sister, who lives in New York, nearly fainted on hearing the news of the trade. WIth Ime Udoka cut, Okur's long time uniform number, 13, is available for him. In other number news, DeShawn Stevenson will wear 92, Dennis Horner has switched from 40 to 31, and Shawne Williams is 7.
It was family day at the PNY Center, meaning Candace Parker, aka Mrs. Shelden Williams, was around while another celebrity wife (whose name must not be spoken) wasn't.
- Okur 'happy and excited' to be with Nets - Mike Mazzeo - ESPN New York
- Nets give Horner early X-Mas gift - Mike Mazzeo - ESPN New York
- Nets' Mehmet Okur wastes no time after arriving in New Jersey - Colin Stephenson - Star-Ledger
- Avery Johnson says Nets are going to need time to right this ship - Stefan Bondy - New York Daily News
- Mehmet Okur Interview (Video) - New Jersey Nets
- Tall order for Okur - Andy Vasquez - The Record
- Center Mehmet Okur joins the Nets - Tim Bontemps - New York Post
- Nets, Bulls populated by ex-Jazz citizens - Jody Genessy - Deseret News
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he wore number 9 when he was on the magic
and he wore number 2 when he was on the wizards.
by JerseysFinest. on Dec 24, 2011 12:43 PM EST up reply actions
why not 29?
:)
I still believe we can do IT !
by faNETicS on Dec 24, 2011 1:53 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
she fainted...
that can’t be a good thing right? haha
because she'll be hosting him at the moment. :)
I still believe we can do IT !
by faNETicS on Dec 24, 2011 1:58 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
Hmm…you must be referring to mrs. Okur, who I believe is a former Miss Turkey.
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by Dumpy on Dec 24, 2011 12:42 PM EST via mobile reply actions
I refer of course to the Armenian atrocity, not the Turk
"It's as sweet as it ever was, I'll tell you. Now, hopefully, we started something and we can win some more championships, but we're going to enjoy this one right now. Have a little champagne." --Julius Erving, May 12, 1976, ABA champion Nets locker room.
by Net Income on Dec 24, 2011 12:44 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
Haha
The former Mrs Humphries. Lol!
by Pinoy Nets on Dec 24, 2011 12:52 PM EST via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
very very funny. the stars aligned for that one
by njbknets on Dec 24, 2011 2:06 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions 1 recs
fell right into it.
"It's as sweet as it ever was, I'll tell you. Now, hopefully, we started something and we can win some more championships, but we're going to enjoy this one right now. Have a little champagne." --Julius Erving, May 12, 1976, ABA champion Nets locker room.
ROFL!
Wow, how could you have us lower then 20th?
by vincecarter4pres on Dec 24, 2011 1:20 PM EST up reply actions
Thats why he got fired. Totally incompetent.
I stopped sending him Rat Trap jokes after he was fired, but now I have no sympathy.
I mean even with a healthy Okur I'm not expecting a very good team, but...
How can you have us behind?:
Toronto
Charlotte
Cleveland
Detroit
Washington
Phoenix
Sacramento
I mean those teams are obviously super awful.
Then I think we could easily be better then:
New Orleans
Golden State
Milwaukee
But 30th?
That isn’t even sensational journalism, it’s just special kid on the short bus style.
by vincecarter4pres on Dec 24, 2011 6:45 PM EST up reply actions
LMFAO
Think about….
Dwight or Bust
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by Shameer1016 on Dec 24, 2011 12:55 PM EST up reply actions
“…even after Brook Lopez recovers from the stress fracture in his right hip).”
Really Sheridan? A stress fracture in his right HIP eh? What an idiot…
by ap3604 on Dec 24, 2011 1:36 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
lmao @ Randy Oreens
This is exactly why Chris Sheridan got fired, how does a Bobcat team get a better record than a team with Deron Williams? We know you dont like the Nets, but Chris this is awful.
If I had an ESPN writer power rankings you would be last because you got fired. Hey Chris face it your small time now and Knick fans even hate you. You kept saying stuff about the lockout to get people to come to this website that looks like it took you 2 minutes.
Chris you dont know basketball, face it.
he torched sheridan.
by MrDollarBills on Dec 24, 2011 1:59 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
Randy Da man
@ HowardBeckNYT
Deal done, source says. NBA is back.
-November 26th, 3:17 am.
by Andy. on Dec 24, 2011 2:09 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
a comment from that same site from a Jazz fan
That Jazz ranking is way off. We’ll win 25 games at least, and more importantly, Derrick Favors will be a 20-10 guy by season’s end, if not sooner. That’s still lottery bound, but with the Okur trade exception, GSW pick, and our own lotto pick, this team will be damn good next year.
Not sure about Favors dropping 20 and 10, but I’ve developed an appreciate for the Jazz’s GM. He’s bailed us out twice and both times imo he was rewarded well for it. They’re rebuilding very nicely. Its cool that with the Jazz entering a rebuild and the Nets trying to climb their way out of one, both GMs are smart enough to work with each other to achieve their goals.
by MrDollarBills on Dec 24, 2011 2:15 PM EST up reply actions
The Jazz GM is very smart
He avoided a potential Dwill drama where a trade was demanded. He handled the situation brilliantly, trading the superstar at the peak of his value, when an extension was NOT required in order to make a trade happen. In return, he got two number 3 picks who were big men and the team is set up very well for rebuilding.
The Jazz are the team i root for after the Nets.
Comment from a writer there
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I think it's fine.
by NetsMets4Life on Dec 24, 2011 2:54 PM EST up reply actions
And a reply from Sheridan himself
They [the Nets] were my favorite team until I was 11. I was an ABA fan. Then Roy Boe sold Dr. J., and my fanship ceased soon thereafter. But I do not hate them. They just stink, and they have for two years, and they just lost Lopez to a broken foot, hence the No. 30 ranking. If you go back a couple posts, I actually lauded Billy King for his quick move to get Okur– and get him on the cheap.
I think it's fine.
by NetsMets4Life on Dec 24, 2011 4:50 PM EST up reply actions
he hates the Nets because a territorial fee forced by the Knicks left them with no other option but to sell their best player so they could enter the NBA?
sounds legit
by sheepareevil on Dec 24, 2011 5:03 PM EST up reply actions
Sheridan
can’t tell the difference between a stress fracture in a foot bone and a hip injury, so not shocking.
by MrDollarBills on Dec 24, 2011 7:14 PM EST up reply actions
nice history lesson
but that means you go to root for the team that is the main reason the nets went from powerhouse to doormat?
a team that was the top power of the ABA and had the biggest superstar besides #23 forced to dump their two HOF legends who went on to win titles in addition to multiple playoff victories in theie NBA careers on seperate franchises.
the 1980 ECF still is torture to me knowing Tiny and Julius should have been teammates along with Bernard King running through the East in the early 80’s
The realist keepin it real amongst the surrealists
I was in Baghdad before these little B.G.'s was in they daddy-bags.
by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Dec 24, 2011 7:32 PM EST up reply actions
he also says theres "news"
and just copy pastes what others report
There wasn't even a real explanation for any of these
considering I only the top 1 and bottom 2, I’m done
Nets Mets Giants ALL DAY
He also said cp3 trade made the clippers a lottery team, dude is a hack
by domininaldo1981 on Dec 24, 2011 1:35 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Wait.
Made the CLIPPERS a lottery team? No wonder ESPN fired this fool.
I think it's fine.
by NetsMets4Life on Dec 24, 2011 1:51 PM EST up reply actions
they mad he isn't a knick
so he sucks now
World Series attitude, champagne bottle life, nothing every changes so tonight is like tomorrow night.
sad thing is
He’s a better creator than anyone we have other than Deron. He can actually change the energy of a game.
by Jack Handy Jr on Dec 24, 2011 2:33 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
...and not follow a single game plan
"It's as sweet as it ever was, I'll tell you. Now, hopefully, we started something and we can win some more championships, but we're going to enjoy this one right now. Have a little champagne." --Julius Erving, May 12, 1976, ABA champion Nets locker room.
no
there’s a reason why he’s available
by MrDollarBills on Dec 24, 2011 2:01 PM EST up reply actions
My boy!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uIJc4IMkH1o&feature=related
The Nets Broke My Heart..
Then They Put It Back Together..
And Then They Broke It Again..
And Now My Hearts Confused...
that’s how he celebrates? Swag walk.
@ HowardBeckNYT
Deal done, source says. NBA is back.
-November 26th, 3:17 am.
He's been a dud his entire NBA career
and won’t be remembered 5 years from now lol
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probably a better shooter too if i recall correctly
by MrDollarBills on Dec 24, 2011 7:15 PM EST up reply actions
yup
he is still Houston’s all time leader in 3s made and attempted
by GrandKenyon6 on Dec 24, 2011 7:49 PM EST up reply actions
I bring up the comparison mainly due to the antics
And year Mad Max was more of a volume shooter but if I’m not mistaken his FG% wasn’t much different than Stevenson’s…. Still and all two very similar players IMO
by boogeewon on Dec 24, 2011 9:37 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Are we going to get a Jets-Giants game thread?
jk
I'm all in. Go Nets!
by John at the Jersey Shore on Dec 24, 2011 1:04 PM EST reply actions
sure thing
here: http://www.bigblueview.com/
and here: http://www.ganggreennation.com/
NetsDaily.com
This board is going to be dead if we leave you know lol
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this board has exceeded its previous one-day record
on 12 of the last 14 days. We’ll be fine.
"It's as sweet as it ever was, I'll tell you. Now, hopefully, we started something and we can win some more championships, but we're going to enjoy this one right now. Have a little champagne." --Julius Erving, May 12, 1976, ABA champion Nets locker room.
by Net Income on Dec 24, 2011 1:31 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Happy Holidays to Nets Daily and all my fellow posters.
Here’s to an exciting season.
Hawks V Nets tickets
just purchased my tickets lower baseline 4 row 18. was there some type of give away for the first 15,000 fans?
L&P is in sec 14
I'm all in. Go Nets!
by John at the Jersey Shore on Dec 24, 2011 2:28 PM EST up reply actions
we'll be there too
sec 13.. i guess we’re close to the L&P section..
We’ll also be in Pacers’ game..
GO NETS!
I'm an MJ FAN (Bulls)... turned into JKIDD FAN (Phoenix-Nets)...
NOW, I'm definitely a NETFAN - Go Deron Williams!
by NETFAN on Dec 24, 2011 1:58 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
Me, too. Sec 13, row 12, seats 1,2,3
I'm all in. Go Nets!
by John at the Jersey Shore on Dec 24, 2011 2:28 PM EST up reply actions
Deron William jerseys
Can’t be high quality but that’s the description. I didn’t see anything about first 15000, I thought everybody. But if it’s 15000, then they will probably have leftovers!
I'm all in. Go Nets!
by John at the Jersey Shore on Dec 24, 2011 1:44 PM EST reply actions
it will b e like those t shirts from last season quality wise probably
by mightymosdefinition on Dec 24, 2011 1:45 PM EST up reply actions
And a magnet schedule!
Too bad I have a stainless steel fridge
I'm all in. Go Nets!
by John at the Jersey Shore on Dec 24, 2011 2:30 PM EST up reply actions
Who knows
The Nets might want to start spreading Nets Deron jerseys around the NY/NJ area and will eat the cost as a marketing expense.
It’s worth it to make your brand everpresent…and probably still cheaper than a billboard.
by Anthony Perez on Dec 24, 2011 8:01 PM EST up reply actions
Jonathan Givony @draftexpress
Dennis Horner was cut by the worst team in Belgium, then was an average player on the worst team in Cyprus. Now he made the NJ Nets.
Americans love a 2nd chance act
Doesn’t everybody?
I'm all in. Go Nets!
by John at the Jersey Shore on Dec 24, 2011 2:34 PM EST up reply actions
more givony
I hate to “call guys out.” Just thinking out loud how strange it is. One day you can’t get a job in Iceland, but the next you’re in the NBA.
@ HowardBeckNYT
Deal done, source says. NBA is back.
-November 26th, 3:17 am.
he was undrafted then ended up with the magic
then he was basically traded for grant hill
by mightymosdefinition on Dec 24, 2011 2:02 PM EST up reply actions
as a filler mind u.
pistons were a right fit for him
MJ got cut too many times
in his HS team, but he worked hard and paid off..
I hope thats the same story Horner gets… not expecting an all star, but sixth man would be great accomplishment – even just being nominated.
I'm an MJ FAN (Bulls)... turned into JKIDD FAN (Phoenix-Nets)...
NOW, I'm definitely a NETFAN - Go Deron Williams!
by NETFAN on Dec 24, 2011 2:03 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
in his case
sitting on the bench in a suit will be a huge accomplishment
by MrDollarBills on Dec 24, 2011 2:05 PM EST up reply actions
highly doubt that...
but if he can make the rotation, that’d be great for us and for him
The whole MJ getting cut story is more myth than truth
He was cut as a freshman. Difficult to make any HS basketball team as a freshman.
Furthermore, he was cut in favor of a player who had a major height advantage, which is important at that age. MJ played JV, it’s not like he wasn’t out of HS basketball system period.
by ZR on Dec 24, 2011 5:10 PM EST up reply actions
People have to get real about Horner
Don’t be expecting him to be producing anything out there. His main contribution will be the 6 fouls he has to give, maybe some screens
I dont know what his point is
other than his usual know-it-all point.
Thoroughly annoying.
Kid was averaging 15 and 8 for one of the best teams in the D-League before he was called up. D-League, I suspect, is better than the Belgian and Cypriot leagues.
In other words, who cares.
"It's as sweet as it ever was, I'll tell you. Now, hopefully, we started something and we can win some more championships, but we're going to enjoy this one right now. Have a little champagne." --Julius Erving, May 12, 1976, ABA champion Nets locker room.
anyone know if cdr is going to sign anywhere
by mightymosdefinition on Dec 24, 2011 1:48 PM EST reply actions
and no NBA offers either
"It's as sweet as it ever was, I'll tell you. Now, hopefully, we started something and we can win some more championships, but we're going to enjoy this one right now. Have a little champagne." --Julius Erving, May 12, 1976, ABA champion Nets locker room.
Wish he wasn't such a headcase
He should be on an NBA roster given his talent and unique offensive skill set.
by ZR on Dec 24, 2011 5:11 PM EST up reply actions
for me its the lakers
i could see them having a great season and i could also see them missing the playoffs they look really old last season
and the only significant addition was josh mcroberts
by mightymosdefinition on Dec 24, 2011 2:01 PM EST up reply actions
with the new coach?
hornets, clippers might make it harder for them…
mavs also improved in some degree (without tyson and jj). i bet they’ll play more half court sets – lamar, vc, jkidd, dirk!
I'm an MJ FAN (Bulls)... turned into JKIDD FAN (Phoenix-Nets)...
NOW, I'm definitely a NETFAN - Go Deron Williams!
by NETFAN on Dec 24, 2011 2:07 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
McRoberts only because Bynum is suspended.
They’d be a lot better with Odom.
Kobe playing with a limp wrist too
"I define passion as extreme emotion."
When you have to shoot, shoot don't talk.
injuries
With a compressed season and long lockout. Which team will be affected most by injuries?
by DJ HeavyDuty on Dec 24, 2011 2:22 PM EST up reply actions
they are just old
What if some other star got hurt
Lebron Wade Bosh
Stat or Melo
Kobe…. if there was an 82 game sched Kobe would sit
Orlando would be terrible if Dwight went down
by DJ HeavyDuty on Dec 24, 2011 2:32 PM EST up reply actions
tyson chandler will definately get hurt
and amare is going to miss some back to back to back games
by mightymosdefinition on Dec 24, 2011 2:40 PM EST up reply actions
Go Nets/Jets......... I'm looking forward to knocking you guys out, maybe help the iggles get in...
I am going to turn this team around 360 Degrees- Jason Kidd
i just want coughlin out
Give me the chin
Bill Cowher!
by DJ HeavyDuty on Dec 24, 2011 2:28 PM EST up reply actions
the fans went insane when he broke into the salsa. That was so bad ass lmao
dude is a pro bowler for sure and he’s quickly becoming a star.
He needs a nick name
by MrDollarBills on Dec 24, 2011 7:21 PM EST up reply actions
2012 2013 starting lineup
Dwill Arenas
Ammo Brooks Deshawn
James Bogdanovic
Howard Okur
Lopez JWill
Nets 2011 1st rd
Houston ain’t makin the playoffs
pause
Howard at PF and Lopez at C? lol
by corky_romano4life on Dec 24, 2011 3:36 PM EST up reply actions
They are better than the Hornets, Denver and Blazers...
Those were the 6,7,and 8 seed playoff teams last year…
Would you think I'm weird
For saying I would rather pay less and try to get Kevin Love? I think he + Brook + Deron would be scary
by corky_romano4life on Dec 24, 2011 3:35 PM EST reply actions
Kevin Durant just said on twitter that his favorite player of all time is Vince Carter.
Maybe he rooted for the Nets at one point.
I think it's fine.
he also said that
his favorite team was raptors which explains it…but i DO NOT see him leavin OKC they r just too god and will get better every year….
by devinharris34 on Dec 24, 2011 3:48 PM EST up reply actions
he signed an extension a long time
So obviously he’s not leaving. Durant doesnt get enough respect for how good and how humble he is. A superstar that embraces a small market is something special.
He means that
as a compliment.
Fire Johnson and hire Van Gundy - I'm telling you Thorn was smoking something when he let Van Gundy slip away in the night.
by diehardNFFLbarnone on Dec 24, 2011 5:25 PM EST up reply actions
Eli was 9-27 today.
RE-SIGN THE HUMP!!!
The JETS/NETS are coming!
by MrBDown on Dec 24, 2011 6:55 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
it doesnt really matter at this point unless we know hes going to hit free agency which he probably wont
by mightymosdefinition on Dec 24, 2011 4:41 PM EST up reply actions
We almost made the playoffs last season
I think we def have a better team I think we make 7th or 8th seed
We started 2-0
then let it slip away! We were right there!
I'm all in. Go Nets!
by John at the Jersey Shore on Dec 24, 2011 4:10 PM EST up reply actions
that's false but...
we did play better right after the deal BEFORE deron’s wrist acted up, when we had the streak
some things had to go our way but 10 more games on shcedule
we would have had a chance
i was thinking that since utah wants to build around favors and kanter. maybe they would want to send jefferson to indiana for like danny granger and send millsap to nj, portland sends gerald wallace to utah and nj sends lopez and milsap to orlando for dwight howard.
portland stills gets picks. that’s not the whole trade just something to start with. idk
greivis vasquez has been traded to NO…..
Guess who’s a perfect fit for memphis now…..
@ HowardBeckNYT
Deal done, source says. NBA is back.
-November 26th, 3:17 am.
Mayo?
Another trade chip and he’s better than any wing we have
by Jack Handy Jr on Dec 24, 2011 5:24 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
you really think they're gonna give up OJ Mayo for Jordan Farmar?
by sheepareevil on Dec 24, 2011 5:26 PM EST up reply actions
They gave up OJ Mayo
for Josh Mcroberts, they just ran out of time.
We would need to add more of course
They need a big man more than anything though, and I doubt petro holds much appeal.
by Jack Handy Jr on Dec 24, 2011 5:33 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
well BK did get Okur for a 2nd round draft pick
so who knows.
by sheepareevil on Dec 24, 2011 5:38 PM EST up reply actions
Yes
But Okur was a salary dump for them. There’s no reason for Memphies to take on a salary dump
That's not true.
Memphis has every reason in the world to salary dump and then an extra one.
Problem is we can’t truly salary dump anymore.
If it wasn’t for Mayo’s insane cap hold and impending restricted free agency I would send Farmar and MarShon in a heartbeat.
by vincecarter4pres on Dec 24, 2011 7:02 PM EST up reply actions
Do we really need to keep trying to get guards? we should be trying to get
Anthony Randolph or even Tolliver for forwards’ spot. Maybe for a future second rounder.
Minny already has their 5 big rotaion, not including those guys and 6’11" Pekovic.
I think we still need a legit 2.
Morrow showed how he’s a liability if his shot isn’t falling and although I know that’s not often it really showed how terribly one dimensional he is and why he’s only a starter in a certain type of specific lineup.
MarShon has looked a little lost and has shown a lot of the bad traits that make some on here ooh and aah even though they should cringe and squint.
Guy is the definition of a ball stopper and doesn’t understand any other way to play.
I’m not saying he can’t or won’t change eventually, but I think he’s going to be quite limited this year and even next and I don’t see major potential where he should be nearly untouchable either.
I will say you have to love his effort on D most of the time, but even there he in general looks like the flat out bad defender he was his senior year in college and even occasionally gives up on plays.
Stevenson is a bucket of meh and shouldn’t really be playing more then around 10mpg on any type of team with actual goals of winning.
I’m not even all aboard the Mayo express, but if he could get back to his rookie and sophomore type production he’s a solid, slightly above average starter.
Again though, my real problem with Mayo lies in his cap hold and RFA status if he was viewed as a long term piece.
by vincecarter4pres on Dec 24, 2011 11:09 PM EST up reply actions
So one pre-season game you got all of that out of?
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by Shameer1016 on Dec 24, 2011 11:24 PM EST up reply actions
For sure.
Or it could be an entire season of Providence and then him looking identical in 2 games?
And what exactly is “all I got out of it?”
That he’s a ball stopper and suspect defender?
Cause he is.
If he ever becomes a good or really good player, it will be a result of dramatically changing his style and approach to the game, not by remaining the same and just improving and acclimating.
by vincecarter4pres on Dec 24, 2011 11:42 PM EST up reply actions
In Games 1 and 2
there were definitively two different Marshon Brooks and Anthony Morrow that showed up. I’m just saying don’t blow a fuse over one bad game that didn’t count. In game 1 Morrow didn’t play like the regular SG that camps by the 3 point line, and Brooks was hitting his shots also. In Game 2, not sure exactly what happened. And this team need more than you love fest Moiso hugging boy Mayo on this team.
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by Shameer1016 on Dec 24, 2011 11:51 PM EST up reply actions
I'm not blowing a fuse dude.
I would have gave you the same scouting report this offseason or on draft night.
This isn’t knee jerk or going crazy, it’s just honest observation and reality, games 1 and 2 of the preseason didn’t change or really even confirm what I believed they just demonstrated what I know.
Morrow is a deadly league leading shooter who’s a mediocre but not bad defender who can do little to nothing else.
On the rare occasion his shot is completely broken, he’s not just worthless, he’s a liability.
But even on nights when his shot is on, he’s more or less a one trick pony, he’s just extremely good at that one trick.
He should only be starting with an uber athletic 3 who can handle the ball and create next to him.
If not he should be coming off the bench at the 2 and the 3 for around 24 to 28mpg to be specific.
With Brooks, he’s a rookie and chances were as NBA ready as he is advertised, he wasn’t going to come in and set the league on fire.
He looked better game 1 cause his shot was falling.
He still got past people in game 2, he just couldn’t finish cause he’s a ballhog and jacks up bad attempt after bad attempt.
His jumper is solid but not great, but again, his selection is bad.
And the real concerning thing is, you give him the ball you are not seeing it again. It goes dribble, dribble, pound pound, shot clock running out, circus shot attempt, hope it goes in cause I’m a good bad shot shooter.
His defense is bad too. He’s athletic with crazy length so he should be able to excel there, but old habits are hard to break.
What he showed in game 2 was not a surprise to me, like it maybe to some of you. Expect game 2 twice as many nights to game 1.
He’s going to be inconsistent.
He’s probably going to stick in this league a long time, but not necessarily as the type of player I ever want on my team, just as a name that puts up some numbers on paper that people love for reasons unbeknownst to me.
And he’s a guy I’m never going to win the argument with when going against his supporters and apologists, just like the Jamal Crawford and Nick Young fans on here.
Cause he’ll eventually put up solid numbers and make the ZOMG hero play every once in awhile that will be all his fans point to, even though he’s hurting your team the other 88% of the time.
And I’m not saying he’ll definitely remain what I’m describing, I’m just saying, that is who he is right now and chances are he’ll just be a better version of himself in 2 or 3 seasons, not some wildly different impactful player who’s done a complete 180.
by vincecarter4pres on Dec 25, 2011 12:31 AM EST up reply actions
Ok, NOW you blew a fuse over 2 games lol
Its just too early to judge a rookie and our one dimensional player, which I agree with. I’m not saying Brooks will be a Super star, but the kid has potential to be darn good. And ALL good scorers, are high usage and volume shooter. I’m just saying don’t look to deep into 2 Pre-Season games, in a 1 week training camp. We’re lottery bound right now anyways, so I expect Brooks to get a lot of playing time and show off his game. He also looks nervous out there, and you can tell by his movement and ball handling, I expect that to change once he gets comfortable. As for Morrow, he is an ideal SG to come off of the bench and only a starter if you have a Melo or Lebron as your starting SG, I can agree with you on that, but who else do we put at the SG spot? Your just as bad shooter Mayo? or the DPOY candidate Stevenson?
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One of the BEST game a duo ever had
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3v4GS9t8o8&feature=related
by Shameer1016 on Dec 25, 2011 12:41 AM EST up reply actions
Like I was saying, I'm not coming to conclusions over 2 preseason games.
In fact I’m not coming to conclusions at all, but I’m saying that likely case IMO is what I’m saying.
I watched a number of Providence games last year.
I wasn’t a big fan by halfway through the year.
MarShon was a player I had lower on my overall board but higher on our board, as in the 27th pick range.
There was nothing wrong with taking him at 25 and he might provide sick value, but he’s a ball stopper plain and simple.
Right now we need someone to score though, so that can be overlooked, we also have a lack of overall talent, so again, some of that can be worried about later.
But I wasn’t saying to play DeShawne, I was just saying our situation isn’t ideal and if it wasn’t for his cap hold and upcoming free agency I would trade Farmar and MarShon for a Mayo type and level and age player in a heartbeat and then bring Morrow off the bench as a 2 position 6xth man gunner like he should be.
I don’t think you need Lebron or Melo to start Morrow, but actually even though I’m not a huge fan, he would fit picture perfect with say Andre Iguodala.
For Brooks though, I won’t disagree, it’s early and he has some very real rookie jitters.
I also love the play where after he foolishly turned the ball over to Harrelson, he chased the play down and blocked a Landry layup.
Also love the play where he challenged Tyson at the rim and almost comes up with the clean block, gets put on his ass and jumps right up like it’s business as usual.
The kid has a pretty good attitude, a good skill set, a couple things he stands out at, he’s long and wiry and athletic, I am just not a fan of his actual style of play, I don’t think it leads to wins, even in a limited role.
I think you’re misreading what I’m saying.
I am not saying, MarShon Brooks sucks, he’ll never put up numbers.
I am saying I don’t like his game much at all and he has the looks of a Jamal Crawford type which will make some people label him as a great player and steal of the draft, where as to me Jamal Crawford is a guy I almost don’t want on my team for free in ANY ROLE, ever.
Right now while he’s a rookie and on rookie contract, I hope he tricks the eye and becomes a valuable trade chip and then I’m selling high, that is all.
by vincecarter4pres on Dec 25, 2011 1:05 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I'm just saying you observed a boat load
and I’m not surprised at Brooks game at all because he averaged like 35 PPG in college, and just like most scorers in the NBA, there ball stoppers. Not that the NCAA level is even close to the NBA level, but Brooks overall stats are pretty nice as a scorer. I’m not selling the kid short, and the only way for him to get better is to see how he plays with no limits, and then try to mold him into the player he can either become or that you want him to become. But, I don’t expect the Nets to do it, we might be gone before he ever becomes a decent player or a good player.
http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Marshon-Brooks-6347/
This crap says his best case is Nick Young? Trade his behind now, if that his ceiling.
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With all due respect, how can you say Brooks is a ball stopper?! that is utterly ridiculous to claim by watching him play a total of 30 odd minutes in 2 preseason games… That statement alone tells me how little you know about this game, period..#smh
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I'm not going to win this argument I know this.
He’s a ball stopper because he was a ball stopper all year last season.
He’s a ball stopper because, well he’s a ball stopper.
Why does one call Artest crazy?
Or Humphries a good rebounder?
Or Nash a bad defender?
by vincecarter4pres on Dec 25, 2011 9:55 AM EST up reply actions
He absolutely is a ball stopper
and Brooks himself has said Avery gets all over him when he hogs the ball for like 10 or more seconds before jacking up a shot.
You could already see it in college. He is a ball stopper, plain and simple.
WHY
would we do that?
Fire Johnson and hire Van Gundy - I'm telling you Thorn was smoking something when he let Van Gundy slip away in the night.
by diehardNFFLbarnone on Dec 24, 2011 5:27 PM EST up reply actions
stupid trade for Memphis
Vazquez had potential, at least more than Poindexter. It would be interesting if King somehow stole Mayo for Farmar, J-Will, and whatever else (like people said, they almost did a McRoberts swap, you never know). Would give the Nets a lot of wing players, but I guess DeShawn would officially be a 3, and Mayo would compete with Morrow for starting 2. Kid helps a lot in the scoring department
by JerseysFinest. on Dec 24, 2011 6:10 PM EST up reply actions
If we got Mayo I think it's going to cost us Farmar and MarShon.
Morrow and Stevenson then come off the bench with Mayo and James as the starters.
by vincecarter4pres on Dec 24, 2011 7:03 PM EST up reply actions
To much for Mayo
"We're not there yet, but we're going somewhere," Johnson said. "And we're going to Brooklyn. We're not going to contract. We're going to Brooklyn."
Meh really?
I don’t even think Mayo is worth a ton, but he’s certainly worth more then Farmar.
And I think Nets fans are gassed up on their own guy in Swag.
Yeah sure he’s got potential, but he was the 25th overall pick in a pretty weak draft, he’s 23 already and has just as many cons as pros, he’s not worth what Nets fans would like to think.
Basically a very late first and a serviceable younger player at a position of need on a fair contract.
Sounds exactly like Mayo’s value.
by vincecarter4pres on Dec 24, 2011 9:34 PM EST up reply actions
so where's the Candace Parker pic?
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When you have to shoot, shoot don't talk.
Eddie House
Was just cut by Miami. He was an ex Net with nice 3 point range. Too bad theres not a roster spot for him…
I've heard he's dying to come back here
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Its pretty fun though
you should try it lol
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Being Sarcastic
people can’t tell if your agree or not, and it saves a lot of time when it comes to endless debates and arguments lol
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by netsareboss on Dec 24, 2011 6:35 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I don't want him at all.
Terrible handles, terrible defense, terrible passer, terrible at driving to the hoop.
Yea...
I despise Eddie house.
by Avery's Johnson on Dec 25, 2011 4:45 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
BTW
What’s the deal with Agent 0???? Cant we get him for real cheap…. I’ll make a cut in the roster to get him.
see him in March maybe
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who is going to offer Gil a contract
and take a PR hit? unless someone of say Dwight Howard caliber says he wouldnt mind having him on the team
Gil should really use this time to clear his head and get in shape.
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yea i saw that
on an earlier thread, can anyone confirm this?
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the post did not say today
no source either
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by John at the Jersey Shore on Dec 24, 2011 9:10 PM EST up reply actions
AHAHAHA LOL
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Love our owner
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Watching the replay of game five between the heat and Mavericks
Watching Stevenson D it up, good pick up a lot more toughness on the wing.
"We're not there yet, but we're going somewhere," Johnson said. "And we're going to Brooklyn. We're not going to contract. We're going to Brooklyn."
There team defense was crazy
Very good rotations
"We're not there yet, but we're going somewhere," Johnson said. "And we're going to Brooklyn. We're not going to contract. We're going to Brooklyn."
They just lost alot when they let Chandler go
but his price was a bit steep. They could have easily retained Stevenson if they wanted to, especially for what we signed him for, I wonder why they didn’t though.
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nah Carlisle letting Kidd run the show was the difference imo
"I define passion as extreme emotion."
When you have to shoot, shoot don't talk.
Yes I would agree Andres, but you're leaving out important info.
A) No one is guaranteed to get last year’s Chandler. Not NYK, not Dallas or us if either of us had signed him.
For maybe 3 seasons before last he was considered an always injured touch above average albatross contract.
He is a very good player when healthy and motivated in the right fit/situation/lineup, but in all reality he’s just the flavor of the month right now.
B) He was the final piece, albeit the most important one and centerpiece to a brilliant defensive scheme, system and team effort.
It’s not like there were a bunch of schlubs around him and a bad defensive coach and system and he single handedly turned it around like he’s Dwight.
by vincecarter4pres on Dec 24, 2011 7:11 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah, the injury disclaimer I put in the original post.
I meant to post something about that earlier today just to clear the air with you guys before the season started, I’ve just been crazy busy the last 3 days and have posted sparingly from my phone, the last week or so honestly.
by vincecarter4pres on Dec 24, 2011 7:23 PM EST up reply actions
Hmm...
IDK man, Lopez was to be such a huge part of our success and the main chip in a Dwight deal.
Who knows when he comes back and how limited he is for the first few weeks after returning and although I think Orlando will take a wait and see approach about trading for him, it will certainly mean they won’t deal until the deadline, where as I thought there was a chance a deal got down in the next few weeks before the injury.
Also I’m very unsure about Okur’s health.
It’s a stupid bet for me unless you want to spot me some absurd amount of games that makes it too risky for you.
by vincecarter4pres on Dec 24, 2011 9:28 PM EST up reply actions
Guys..i know DShawn won a championship..but he always comes across as a thug..
i hope he does not mess DWill!
by JKREINCARNATEDW on Dec 24, 2011 6:28 PM EST reply actions
a thug
that can play defense.
There were teams back in the old days that had “thugs” that did the same thing Deshawn did.
Ever heard of the 80s Pistons?
by MrDollarBills on Dec 24, 2011 7:24 PM EST up reply actions
Its funny you mention this
but Adam Morrison and Kwame Brown probably have Championships too, so Stevenson is no different than the rest of scrubs along for the ride.
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don't forget the human cigar Darko
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When you have to shoot, shoot don't talk.
Good god lol
http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/m/myerspe01.html
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I just dropped some serious venom on Chris Sheridan in those power rankings comments lmao
by William_H_HOLLA on Dec 24, 2011 7:27 PM EST reply actions
I laughed.
There’s not much more to do with that.
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Lol Sheridan is such a troll, guy's flat ot baiting us
sheridanhoops Chris Sheridan
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47 minutes ago
it's because his website flopped
and he needs to drum up page views for his amateur hour garbage somehow. he literally looks like a troll btw.
by William_H_HOLLA on Dec 24, 2011 8:03 PM EST up reply actions
I'm leading a mass unfollow
Join the party brother, check my twitter. Elonepb
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should pp do this?
@sheridanhoops there seems to be a massive unfollowing reform against you #lol
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Yup
#sheridansucks
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I was never following him
not sure why people word before lol
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ND is really quiet today
we haven’t even hit 500 comments on this thread… somethings wrong
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Christmas eve and football
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Adam Morrison got his team multiple championships barely trying, if that's not a great player...I don't know who is.
by YoungMoney24 on Dec 24, 2011 8:45 PM EST up reply actions
Ahh rite
I’ve watched my football for today lol. Giants win + Dallas loss + Eagles elimination = great day
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is this really Kmart?
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What ya’ll think about me in a Knicks jersey this year!! Just a thought people
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Arite I know this is one of you guys
Who posted their comment on Sheridan’s page with the username “JEROME MOISO”
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God I love Nets fans
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thanks bruh
something about that guy just rubs me the wrong way
by William_H_HOLLA on Dec 24, 2011 9:38 PM EST up reply actions
wait a sec
Sheridan:
Kemba Walker is my ROY guy cuz there will be buckets to be had here.
Bad English and he uses “cuz” in his “professional” article?
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LOL
I just tweeted him something I cant post on here =)
by nets14 on Dec 24, 2011 8:56 PM EST reply actions 2 recs
Question about Loud and Proud seats
it’s section 14? 20 bucks?
those seats from what I can see are legit
I’ve only been to 1 nets game and it was moiso seats…so don’t know too much?
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Adam Morrison got his team multiple championships barely trying, if that's not a great player...I don't know who is.
1st come 1st serve basis this year though. 12 tickets are available per game at the Pru Box Office starting at 11am on game day.
Plus you have to wear Nets gear
$20 are pretty cheap for the seat, but being Loud and Proud ain’t exactly every Nets fan thing.
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No you dont
Are you really negative about Nets fans coming together collective to cheer their team!
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Read here
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It says must be wearing nets gear to buy tickets
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by John at the Jersey Shore on Dec 24, 2011 9:39 PM EST up reply actions
Look on the bright side, it could have been a "other" site which would have been funnier.
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Warped sense of humor?
I wish. My bad. I has multiple tabs open.
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by John at the Jersey Shore on Dec 24, 2011 10:27 PM EST up reply actions
You thought I was joking?
I saw it was $20 I thought it was cheap, but there’s a catch.
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Nope, which convo?
i better check my email, I only have a 1 warning limit now, so If i ever do get a warning, I’m gone.
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No NFL talk remember?
they probably deleted anything Football related.
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There's only 12 seats in the L&P section this year?
That’s not a section, it’s two thirds of a row…
by vincecarter4pres on Dec 24, 2011 9:43 PM EST up reply actions
Or maybe it's 12 day of game, the rest are presold?
by vincecarter4pres on Dec 24, 2011 9:46 PM EST up reply actions
Its definitely not 12/game. That'd be sad
by djeterfan on Dec 24, 2011 9:47 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
I think it means 1 person can buy 12 max at a time
I’ll check with Dell
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by John at the Jersey Shore on Dec 24, 2011 10:35 PM EST up reply actions
My sources confirm that yes
and that Sheridan lost many followers today
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by netsareboss on Dec 24, 2011 10:37 PM EST up reply actions
Doesn't matter about seats
You will be surrounded by people who are die hards and ready to yell.
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They probably don't want us to post football talk
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The question is where
And the answer is Springfield
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by Net Income on Dec 24, 2011 10:06 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
He's been sent down to the DLeague?
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by netsareboss on Dec 24, 2011 10:23 PM EST up reply actions
soon
"It's as sweet as it ever was, I'll tell you. Now, hopefully, we started something and we can win some more championships, but we're going to enjoy this one right now. Have a little champagne." --Julius Erving, May 12, 1976, ABA champion Nets locker room.
Man if comes in healthy we got a hell of a player for a year.
Big if though.
by vincecarter4pres on Dec 24, 2011 9:44 PM EST up reply actions
His old teamates said he was in shape but him staying healthy.....that's up in the air
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He's happy to be in Manhattan lol
I spend alot of time down there, best city in USA
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Mehmet Okur with Deron Williams
is better than Mehmet Okur with anyone else.
"It's as sweet as it ever was, I'll tell you. Now, hopefully, we started something and we can win some more championships, but we're going to enjoy this one right now. Have a little champagne." --Julius Erving, May 12, 1976, ABA champion Nets locker room.
did anyone see what buss said
Jim Buss not interested in dealing Gasol & Bynum for Dwight Howard, calls the idea “silly”
According to latimes.com:
There’s an Internet report suggesting Orlando was willing to trade Howard for Bynum and Pau Gasol, but now he’s shaking his head as if in pain.
“Where does this stuff come from?” he says. “You’d have to be kind of silly to give up two All-Stars like that for Howard. Zero truth to it. We have never been asked for Andrew and Pau and we’ve never offered them. I think they know we’d either say no or they would sound crazy for asking.”
by joeyb896 on Dec 24, 2011 9:44 PM EST reply actions 2 recs
From here,
thanks for the heads up. This makes me even more confident that the Nets will acquire Dwight Howard.
Yo eLone
what happens if someone shows up to L&P w/o Nets gear? Or if Knicks fans buy tickets into L&P too try and take over? Do we get to whip their moisos?
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We will be fine, Deron will break some experts' glasses.
Don’t underestimate what an elite point guard can do for this team.
XD
Every time I go to google to search up the Nets, there is always Nets 0-82 that shows up in the suggestion box lmao
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by Shameer1016 on Dec 24, 2011 10:40 PM EST up reply actions
I didn't get it...
until i did “Nets 0”
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by netsareboss on Dec 24, 2011 10:46 PM EST up reply actions
If you do "Nets 8"
you get Nets 82-0
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by netsareboss on Dec 24, 2011 10:47 PM EST up reply actions
Yea, but only one is realistic lol
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by Shameer1016 on Dec 24, 2011 10:51 PM EST up reply actions
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