Hollinger: Thumbs Up on Okur, Hump, Big Thumbs Down on Stevenson
by Net Income on Dec 23, 2011 2:36 PM EST
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PrintJohn Hollinger has written his final free agency ratings for the off-season and his top three concern the Nets' three moves this week. He likes the trade for Mehmet Okur and the re-signing of Kris Humphries, but calls the signing of DeShawn Stevenson "wasteful" despite his good defense. He also laments the Nets decision not to sign Andrei Kirilenko.
"The Nets just lost Brook Lopez for several weeks, and even when he returns their backup is the miserable Johan Petro. New Jersey neatly wiped away both problems by adding Okur," Hollinger writes. On Humphries, he is similarly positive. "Humphries is a good value at this price, but it does come with an asterisk ... he also has the right to veto any trade."
But Hollinger does not like Stevenson for the Nets. "If healthy he's a solid wing defender, and I'm sure the Nets were lured by that, but for a rebuilding team this was a bizarre move"
- Rating latest deals: Mehmet and more - John Hollinger - ESPN Insider
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little more than LLE, $2.5M compared to $1.9M
but your point is well taken.
"It's as sweet as it ever was, I'll tell you. Now, hopefully, we started something and we can win some more championships, but we're going to enjoy this one right now. Have a little champagne." --Julius Erving, May 12, 1976, ABA champion Nets locker room.
exactlly
very low risk/high reward..he’ll also help out ammo and brooks on the defensive end and in practice. DOnt see the problem.
by 1stnamelastname on Dec 23, 2011 2:38 PM EST up reply actions
championship veteran defensive mentality
that can be infectious and change the culture … that’s definitely worth it
But that he believes the Nets are rebuilding is a reflection of what Hollinger thinks of the talent level of this team.
Oh pissing blimey there's jam coming out of the walls!
No one doubts that we're terrible right now
But with the one trade we’re all hoping for, that all changes really quickly
I guess...
But how is that trade going to happen now? I don’t think Lopez is back in 6-8 weeks and even if he is, he will have to play well over a significant period of time for the Magic to make a deal. A foot injury to a big man can have devastating consequences.
And if you’re talking about signing Howard as a FA, then there really isn’t much point in signing Stevenson. You might as well give Brooks as much PT as possible. Stevenson was okay last year, but the three previous seasons he was below replacement level. It’s not like he’s going to push the Nets into the playoffs.
Oh pissing blimey there's jam coming out of the walls!
In 2001, people doubted us
When we were in back to back finals no need to give crap to double std. Analysts.
by SunilP on Dec 23, 2011 6:21 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
i agree.. i don't think it was a bad deal
nothing really bizarre about it…
Strike the Shepherd and the Sheep will Scatter
by JerseyFinest on Dec 23, 2011 3:48 PM EST up reply actions
Can anyone post the story here?
for those who don’t have ESPN Insider?
Survivor of the 12-70 debacle.
DeShawn Stevenson to Nets, 1 year, $2.5 million: Thumbs down
Yes, Stevenson had a really good Finals. He’s also 30 years old with a history of back problems, and he has shot 38.8 percent, 28.2 percent and 31.2 percent the past three seasons, posting a single-digit PER in each. If healthy he’s a solid wing defender, and I’m sure the Nets were lured by that, but for a rebuilding team this was a bizarre move.
New Jersey technically signed Stevenson after the Okur trade, even though it was announced well before, and used up its “under-cap” mid-level exception on Stevenson. This was wasteful, as much better players were signed for the veteran’s minimum. Incidentally, the Okur and Stevenson deals combine to remove the possibility of Andrei Kirilenko coming to Newark, as he’d have to take the minimum.
What number will Okur and Stevenson where?
and who else got dropped now that stevenson is added?
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Udoka is gone
So Mehmet can wear his #13
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by Kidd2Petrovic on Dec 23, 2011 3:31 PM EST up reply actions
hump has the right to veto any trade????
is this true? all year long?
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by Angelo Mihalitsianos on Dec 23, 2011 2:42 PM EST reply actions
I think it's because he's a returning player on the 1 year deal
Other outside 1 year contracts like Stevenson don’t have that clause I believe.
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8 > 3
by NJNM on Dec 23, 2011 3:40 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
We're not a "rebuilding team"
We are a team struggling to hang on to DWill by winning as much as we possibly can this year.
So yeah, Hollniger doesn’t seem to see the big picture
by Proballxx on Dec 23, 2011 2:43 PM EST via mobile reply actions
...If he's talking about rebuilding
he’s only talking about the big picture…
World Series attitude, champagne bottle life, nothing every changes so tonight is like tomorrow night.
haha Quinton Ross...
did he ever even play?
by bronxbombers2 on Dec 23, 2011 2:51 PM EST up reply actions
Well that settles some curiosity.
NYDNInterNets Stefan Bondy
New Net D Stevenson holds no grudge against Jay Z for making diss track 3 years ago — “I was honored, he doesn’t even do that to rappers.”
I think it's fine.
anybody got an answer
is that accurate? hump can veto a trade at any time, even later in the year????
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by Angelo Mihalitsianos on Dec 23, 2011 2:46 PM EST reply actions
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RT @jorgeccastillo: Dennis Horner, of Linwood, NJ, told me he made the team. Got the news after practice. That means Ime Udoka is out. #nets
Fred Kerber
DeShawn Stevenson on Deron Williams’ impact on him coming to Nets: “It was big…To play with him is going to be awesome.”
He figures DWill will help him score a bigger contract next year...
Can’t blame him for thinking that…
Oh pissing blimey there's jam coming out of the walls!
Would suck if Hump vetoed a Dwight deal
Unless him and the Nets have an understanding that they’ll reward him with the 4 year contract the year after if he goes through with it
Happens all the time
Winners do it.
"We're not there yet, but we're going somewhere," Johnson said. "And we're going to Brooklyn. We're not going to contract. We're going to Brooklyn."
Then he will also be booed @ home.
I’m sure he will do the right thing. ;-)
To be honest I think thats
Has been talked about.
"We're not there yet, but we're going somewhere," Johnson said. "And we're going to Brooklyn. We're not going to contract. We're going to Brooklyn."
this is the best team we,ve had in years even with lopez injured lol
by tha_RAGER on Dec 23, 2011 3:05 PM EST via mobile reply actions
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Avery hinted that Stevenson isn’t in game shape. Said DeShawn, “I’m in good shape but I’ve still been sitting at home.”
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by Angelo Mihalitsianos on Dec 23, 2011 3:08 PM EST reply actions
WHOOPS
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Avery hinted that Stevenson isn’t in game shape. Said DeShawn, “I’m in good shape but I’ve still been sitting at home.”
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by Angelo Mihalitsianos on Dec 23, 2011 3:08 PM EST reply actions
Look out of shape?
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by Angelo Mihalitsianos on Dec 23, 2011 3:10 PM EST reply actions
Yeah but the NBA wanted to rush things back
What happens I think there will be more injuries around the league. Take him a while to get into game shape.
"We're not there yet, but we're going somewhere," Johnson said. "And we're going to Brooklyn. We're not going to contract. We're going to Brooklyn."
I really like this comment from Hollinger re:Memo
He can’t post up but he can shoot from deep; what’s scary is that he’s probably a defensive upgrade on Lopez, too.
Oh pissing blimey there's jam coming out of the walls!
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In deference to shorter season, NBA has announced reduced suspensions for Andrew Bynum and C. Villanueva. Four games instead of five.
the nba is missing the point then
they gotta teach these players a lesson even if its one more game
"Everything looks nicer when you win. The girls are prettier, the cigars taste better. The trees are greener."
by NJ Champ on Dec 23, 2011 3:25 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
I'll say it time and time again
Depth wins in leagues like the NFL & NBA. In a perfect world, you want a guy like Petro to be your 3rd string center (though for like $1.2M not $3.2M) & guys like Gaines & Shelden Williams + prospects like Jordan Williams & Marshon to make up the bottom of the roster.
A second team of Farmar, Brooks, D.James, Shawne Williams & Okur is a nice compliment to our starters once Brook comes back. Gotta go 12-14 NBA players deep, not have guys like Graham, Uzoh, Zoubek, Wright, etc seeing meaningful playing time
Were they saying "Boo" or "Boo-urns?"
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wholeheartedly agrer
Still missing Drazen
by BCofresi on Dec 23, 2011 3:19 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
And for those who are still parked on Hate Avenue
2010-2011 Opening Day:
Devin Harris
@blackboipachino
Stephen Graham
Joe Smith
Brook Lopez
2011-12
Deron Williams
@blackboipachino
DeShawn Stevenson
Kris Humphries
Brook Lopez Mehmet Okur
It’s not the ’92-93 Bulls but much improved by any standard
Were they saying "Boo" or "Boo-urns?"
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by Kendrick Jay on Dec 23, 2011 3:21 PM EST up reply actions
agreed
I’m starting to think that this team could be fairly decent once Brook comes back. We’ll have to see how it all meshes together.
They are watchable now with this roster.
by MrDollarBills on Dec 23, 2011 6:18 PM EST up reply actions
BCofresi
I still wear my blue Drazen jersey to every game, despite the fact ive grown over the years, haha
Were they saying "Boo" or "Boo-urns?"
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by Kendrick Jay on Dec 23, 2011 3:23 PM EST up reply actions
awesome good for you
It was one of my first two jerseys ( the other being Kenny the kid Anderson) but alas I’ve grown in more than just height
Still missing Drazen
by BCofresi on Dec 23, 2011 3:34 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
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Hearing that Toronto has joined bidding for free-agent center Kyrylo Fesenko. Raps join Heat and Warriors at front of the line for Jazz ex
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Dumb critique imo
This team needs defensive help. That signing was a no brainer, and he comes cheap too
exactly
And we got the starting defensive SG of the champs. Morrow-Brooks don’t do defense and Stevenson basically replaced Udoka. Would’ve been OK even with picking up Bogans for that limited role but Stevenson was a pleasant surprise. Stevenson could also help out Brooks on learning defense, and push the kid harder as he was probably being guarded by Morrow in practice.
yay Hollinger
other than as a championship mascot, will we ever use Stevenson? I guess when we play Miami and LA, to cover Wade and Kobe, but that’s about it. Giving him any other time will bring the offense down and slow Brooks’s development. As for “rebuilding”— you get a guy like Stevenson when you know who you are likely to play in the playoffs and whose SG you have to counter. LA got Metta to deal with Durant and Melo. IIRC, nobody on this board wanted Metta, because he was a one-dimensional defensive player. Well, Metta is a much better offensive player than Stevenson.
"Chuckers ain't champions" -- James Naismith, 1891
by calling all toasters on Dec 23, 2011 8:32 PM EST reply actions
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