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Introducing The Jazz of New Jersey

Across Utah Friday, writers are having a good time referring to the Nets as "Eastern Utah", the "Beehive State Nets", "Jazz East Coast" and "New Jersey Jazz".

And why not? Five Nets got their start or played for years in Utah.

Deron Williams was drafted at #3 by the Jazz in 2005, played five and a half years in Utah; Kris Humphries, drafted at #14 by the Jazz in 2004, played two years in Utah; Mehmet Okur, signed as a free agent by the Jazz in 2004, played seven years in Utah; DeShawn Stevenson, drafted at #23 by the Jazz in 2000, played two years in Utah; and Sundiata Gaines, signed to a 10-day contract by the Jazz in 2010, played 32 games in Utah.

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by netsareboss on Dec 23, 2011 10:47 AM EST via iPhone app reply actions  

Jazz were my second favorite team..

Dwill, AK47, Boozer, CJ Miles etc…

I have no problem being the Brooklyn Jazz, lol.

@ HowardBeckNYT
Deal done, source says. NBA is back.
-November 26th, 3:17 am.

by Andy. on Dec 23, 2011 10:50 AM EST reply actions  

Call us whatever youv want

Jazz saved our moisos and gave us a way back to getting Dwight. I’m now going to go to their board and show my appreciation for them.

RIP baby. I love you forever. Our dream of seeing D12 with the Nets is getting closer.

by lupojohn3 on Dec 23, 2011 10:52 AM EST reply actions  

how?

they helped us to stay afloat, i’m not sure how Okur helps us to get Howard though?

by MrDollarBills on Dec 23, 2011 10:56 AM EST up reply actions  

better way to view it MDB might be...

… that they didn’t add a two or three yr contract which keeps us in the hunt

I trust BK/Dwill GMing

by Dr. Kevin MD on Dec 23, 2011 10:59 AM EST up reply actions  

I have no problems with King

I’m just trying to understand where the optimism is coming from in regards to Howard. We are not in the driver’s seat and our main trade chip may be done for the year.

by MrDollarBills on Dec 23, 2011 11:08 AM EST up reply actions  

Again, why assume how long he'll be out, when we don't know?

I get all of your other points, except that one. Remember what they say about people who assume.

RIP baby. I love you forever. Our dream of seeing D12 with the Nets is getting closer.

by lupojohn3 on Dec 23, 2011 11:11 AM EST up reply actions  

you assume that Howard is going to be a Net

but anyway, stress fractures aren’t a walk in the park, especially for slow, lumbering 7 footers like Brook.

I hope that he’s a fast healer, but man…

by MrDollarBills on Dec 23, 2011 11:12 AM EST up reply actions  

I go by what I hear

Can we agree to wait it out and see what happens?

RIP baby. I love you forever. Our dream of seeing D12 with the Nets is getting closer.

by lupojohn3 on Dec 23, 2011 11:13 AM EST up reply actions  

okur is such an upgrade over petro

i would be disgusted crossing over my defender, spin move pass the help defender, only to dish to Petro and he blows the dunk/layup/5 footer.

That type of crap makes you really think twice about busting your hump or staying or recruiting others

I hope Okur can still play and thus keep Dwill a little happier, that’s all MDB

by Dr. Kevin MD on Dec 23, 2011 11:12 AM EST up reply actions  

I'm glad that we have him

I still don’t see the correlation between getting a stop gap player and dwight howard being traded for Brook Lopez’s broken foot

by MrDollarBills on Dec 23, 2011 11:13 AM EST up reply actions  

im not sure it does anything now

in that sense u r very much correct

i guess we all hope Nets can play competitive ball, enough that deron and DH12 keep talking and on that day that magic and lakers r ready to pull the trigger,Dwight looks at nets. smiles and tells otis “step the Moiso off, only signing long term with the Nets”

we can all dream a little MDB

by Dr. Kevin MD on Dec 23, 2011 11:19 AM EST up reply actions  

hey I want this to work

but sheesh, the cards were already stacked against us and now look

but again, kudos to King. He has shut a LOT of people up on this site who were kicking his back in from the first day that he was hired, and I’m glad to see him continue to operate masterfully.

by MrDollarBills on Dec 23, 2011 11:23 AM EST up reply actions  

Okur tweeted this back in September...
memocum_ MEHMET OKUR
murat kosova neden böyle 2 sayı geriye düşünce hemen ses tonu bir farklı soğuk sanki maç bitti güven gidiyo hemen
2 Sep

Translation: I hope to team up with my homeboy Deron in the near future and lead the Nets to the playoffs. I also want to make MrDollarBills a happy Nets fan. Playoffs easy part…

by M I K E on Dec 23, 2011 11:32 AM EST up reply actions  

think Iama have to use google translator myself....

Niners,Nets,Reds & USC!!!

The Most Interesting Man In The World---->Mikhail Prokhorov!!!

by Kidd2Petrovic on Dec 23, 2011 11:36 AM EST up reply actions  

I think he might have told Deron that already

Remember, Dwight has an image to protect and BK likes to keep things quiet.

RIP baby. I love you forever. Our dream of seeing D12 with the Nets is getting closer.

by lupojohn3 on Dec 23, 2011 3:45 PM EST up reply actions  

Dude you are KILLING me

“done for the year”?

your pessimism definitely crosses the border into ignorance.

..and don’t use words like “logic” and “reality.”

you have none.

by KiddShizzle on Dec 23, 2011 12:24 PM EST up reply actions  

unless you have been under a rock for the last few weeks:

a)its a shortened season. A stress fracture may very well keep Brook out for most of, if not the entire year if he does not heal correctly.

b)my ‘pessimism’ upsets you because you want to carry on like a child that doesn’t want to hear the truth being told to them.

Stick your head in the homering sand all you want bro, what I’m saying carries weight.

by MrDollarBills on Dec 23, 2011 12:32 PM EST up reply actions  

Okur is another trade chip

Come the deadline, there will be teams looking to add depth up front. Okur, who is a former all-star and veteran, is on an expiring contract. He could be moved to acquire another piece to put in a Dwight trade

by Murse Mike on Dec 23, 2011 1:49 PM EST up reply actions  

This

RIP baby. I love you forever. Our dream of seeing D12 with the Nets is getting closer.

by lupojohn3 on Dec 23, 2011 3:45 PM EST up reply actions  

Okur helps keep Deron happy...

Deron keeps Dwight happy.

If Dwight sees that Deron’s still happy with Brooklyn, Dwight lets Orlando know it’s Broolyn or bust…Ball in Orlando’s court…Point..set and match !

by M I K E on Dec 23, 2011 11:00 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Yes M I K E

you are correct.

RIP baby. I love you forever. Our dream of seeing D12 with the Nets is getting closer.

by lupojohn3 on Dec 23, 2011 11:08 AM EST up reply actions  

The Magic will still be more cautious to trade for Lopez without seeing if he can improve his dismal rebounding numbers.

from the article M I K E posted. Not sure how Deron being happy with a stop gap ensures that Otis will trade Dwight for Lopez as opposed to Andrew Bynum

by MrDollarBills on Dec 23, 2011 11:11 AM EST up reply actions  

Bynum is somewhat of a myth

His numbers are a product of the team he plays on. He’s not a franchise player. He has bad knees. He now has a bad rep. Cautious? Yes, but remember there was an article on here yesterday that said they would pursue Brook in FA.

RIP baby. I love you forever. Our dream of seeing D12 with the Nets is getting closer.

by lupojohn3 on Dec 23, 2011 11:13 AM EST up reply actions  

was that article based upon facts or just opinion?

because it sounds utterly dumb to me that the Magic would prefer to let Howard walk and then signing Lopez outright instead of trying to trade Howard for Brook and getting back more in return via picks and young players.

Bynum is a myth but he’s currently healthy and he has championship rings to back up his stature. People look at Brook and the first things that come to mind are “12-70” and “6rpg”. I hate that, but its the truth.

by MrDollarBills on Dec 23, 2011 11:17 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

I agree that it's dumb

and I don’t think it will happen. I only said it to throw something new into the mix. I didn’t read the article. Ask NI.

RIP baby. I love you forever. Our dream of seeing D12 with the Nets is getting closer.

by lupojohn3 on Dec 23, 2011 3:34 PM EST up reply actions  

"His numbers are a product of the team he plays on."

how is that different than Lopez?

"Losing is the same as winning, only with fewer points." - Keith Van Horn (90s Nike commercial)

by macgyver893 on Dec 23, 2011 11:17 AM EST up reply actions  

to be fair

Lopez has been the best offensive player on a bad team but has had to score facing double, sometimes triple teams because the team has been so bad that they can’t keep defenses honest.

I have yet to see Andrew Bynum even face 1/10th of the adversity that Brook has, but again perception is everything

by MrDollarBills on Dec 23, 2011 11:18 AM EST up reply actions  

Lopez doesn't get easy looks - there's usaully noone else to worry about.

BYnum is on a team with Kobe, among others who require attention.

by bkfire on Dec 23, 2011 11:31 AM EST up reply actions  

sorry

but can’t trust an article where the guy fails to realize next season that the Nets will be in Brooklyn and not NJ. more opinion than fact

by domininaldo1981 on Dec 23, 2011 11:44 AM EST up reply actions  

Bynum's on the market?

I thought Orlando wanted Gasol AND him. And if you’re LA why would you trade the twin towers for the empire state building? 2 starters is better than one.

"I define passion as extreme emotion."

When you have to shoot, shoot don't talk.

by universal on Dec 23, 2011 4:14 PM EST up reply actions  

That was for Dolla Bill$

"I define passion as extreme emotion."

When you have to shoot, shoot don't talk.

by universal on Dec 23, 2011 4:15 PM EST up reply actions  

By getting Okur, it keeps Deron happy

it shows Dwight that our FO listens to its star player, unlike ORL. Okur is an expiring contract, which is valuable, and he can be traded at any time. His salary matches up with Hedo’s. That’s how.

RIP baby. I love you forever. Our dream of seeing D12 with the Nets is getting closer.

by lupojohn3 on Dec 23, 2011 11:09 AM EST up reply actions  

as does Stevenson..

Shawne Williams, etc.
We are doing everything we can to show Deron this team is his. Which sends a message to dwight as well. I’m starting to truly believe dwight will do what it takes to come here in 2012. I don’t think that means he will pull a melo and say knicks or bust, as that is kind of a d!ck move, but him being vague about if he would resign with any team not named the Nets is the best he will do.

by Jack Handy Jr on Dec 23, 2011 11:14 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Exactly.

He’s getting everything he wants that is in the Nets power. They can’t control what the Magic do, but it has to feel good to know that when you request the team go after a player, Billy makes sure he is on the team by the end of the week.

@NetsROC

by NetsROC on Dec 23, 2011 11:23 AM EST up reply actions  

Don't know why this ended up here.

Was in respnse to Mr DB asking how Okur helps get DWight

by bkfire on Dec 23, 2011 11:28 AM EST up reply actions  

yeah

no i realize that we have expiring deals, but imo the Lopez injury is the killer here.

Then watch the Nets push Brook onto the floor too early and he either further aggravates the problem or just looks flat out abysmal.

by MrDollarBills on Dec 23, 2011 11:33 AM EST up reply actions  

Again

you’re assuming. Brook has never been injured before. How do we know Brook’s body won’t react well?

RIP baby. I love you forever. Our dream of seeing D12 with the Nets is getting closer.

by lupojohn3 on Dec 23, 2011 3:37 PM EST up reply actions  

*you

RIP baby. I love you forever. Our dream of seeing D12 with the Nets is getting closer.

by lupojohn3 on Dec 23, 2011 10:52 AM EST reply actions  

Great thing about Okur...

is that he has played with Deron for a number of years…

No learning curve involved. Deron knows what he can do and Okur knows what Deron does.

Can’t play Okur too many minutes. The schedule is brutal enough but other teams have to deal with it too…If Okur is healthy we should be O.K. for now.

What looked like a total disaster yesterday is now looking a whole lot better today.

Still worried… but at least on paper we should be able to thread water until Brook gets back…

Should be an interesting season full of thrills and spills…But that’s what makes it so entertaining.

by M I K E on Dec 23, 2011 10:56 AM EST reply actions  

I saw this from the last thread and wanyed to bring it to this one cortesy of orrechio

SI 2001 preview

By Marty Burns, CNNSI.com

Another year, another rebuilding project in the Swamp.

New Jersey turned over half its roster this past offseason, shipping out such notables as Stephon Marbury, Kendall Gill, Stephen Jackson, Evan Eschmeyer and Johnny Newman. This time, the Nets hope they got it right.

Of course, Jason Kidd is not a bad way to start a franchise makeover.

Kidd should improve the Nets’ team chemistry with his unselfish play, while also helping Keith Van Horn get untracked. It won’t make much difference, however, if Kerry Kittles doesn’t come back fully from his knee troubles. Neither Kidd nor shooting guard Lucius Harris are marksman, meaning the brick-laying Nets will need Kittles’s outside stroke more than ever.

2001 Starting Five
PG Jason Kidd
SG Kerry Kittles
SF Keith Van Horn
PF Kenyon Martin
C Todd MacCulloch

Our 2011 team
PG D Will
SG Morrow
SF S Williams
PF Hump
C Okur

Little bit of a sretch and I know the Eastern Conference is vastly improved from 2001, but I see some similarities to the 2001 team and I think we have something to build on. A fullseason of Deron is going to be great and just like Kidd 10 years ago, he will make something out of this team of ours

by Dr. Kevin MD on Dec 23, 2011 11:06 AM EST reply actions  

I see zero similarities

we have a superstar PG, that is the only thing that this team has in common with the 2001 Nets.

by MrDollarBills on Dec 23, 2011 11:10 AM EST up reply actions  

a lesser one as well

I’m sorry, but I still laugh when people compare Kidd to Deron.

by Jack Handy Jr on Dec 23, 2011 11:16 AM EST via mobile up reply actions   1 recs

i do see some similarites though

Morrow and Harris
Kittles and brooks in a couple years
Rj and d.James s ceiling
Van horn and shawnes ceiling
Martin and humphries minus the competitive nature
Etc.

Were a poor man’s version of that team. But I think we will be in the hunt for the eigth seed all season.

by Jack Handy Jr on Dec 23, 2011 11:21 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

im with u jack, poor man's version indeed

but they went to Finals and Im thinking we couls squeeze the 8th

by Dr. Kevin MD on Dec 23, 2011 11:23 AM EST up reply actions  

Stretching big time

I want our Brooks,Morrow, Stevenson combo to be our Kerry
Sweet shooting S Williams to be our VanHorn lite
Hump to crash boards and give us a little toughness up front, Kmart lite
and Okur is as slow footed as maccullough

Lots of stretching, and the east is tougher but not super crazy

by Dr. Kevin MD on Dec 23, 2011 11:22 AM EST up reply actions  

the east is crazy tough bro

Miami
Chicago
New York
Boston
Orlando
Atlanta

teams that on paper at least are all better than us, and Philly owns our souls.

by MrDollarBills on Dec 23, 2011 11:27 AM EST up reply actions  

And Indiana

Come playoff time though Orlando will be dwightless. Atlanta is a pretender and Boston has some serious holes. If we make the playoffs with healthy lopez only Miami and Chicago scare me. Ny is such a wildcard, but I can’t see amare, Chandler, Davis all holding up over a condensed schedule.

by Jack Handy Jr on Dec 23, 2011 11:37 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Also

the end pf that article pegged us 10th. The nets won 50 and went to the finals.

Not saying the two teams are exactly alike…but with an unorthodox lineup of bombers spreading the floor for Dwill…no reason why we couldn’t compete for the 8th seed in the east.

Miluwalkee Indiana and Philly are good but not juggernauts. And we have the best singular talent of any of those teams in Dwill.

by orecchio14 on Dec 23, 2011 11:37 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Haha

I see zero similarities, we have a superstar PG, that is the only thing that this team has in common with the 2001 Nets.

Isn’t that an oxymoron.

by CTNets#5 on Dec 23, 2011 12:10 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

more like

a poorly worded sentence lol

I see zero similarities OTHER THAN….

by MrDollarBills on Dec 23, 2011 12:33 PM EST up reply actions  

Don't know if this was posted yet...Analysis of Okur trade for what it's worth...
By Cory Bernstein

Well that was fast.

At four-ish today, I wrote a doomsday article about Brook Lopez getting an injury and how bad that was for the Nets, and many of the things I said were true. The Nets are severely impacted by the Lopez injury and there are few centers in the league that could replace him offensively. The Magic will still be more cautious to trade for Lopez without seeing if he can improve his dismal rebounding numbers.

But, the Nets traded for Mehmet Okur about eight hours after news broke of Lopez’s injury. By no means is Memo as good as Brook, but you could do a lot worse (like Johan Petro). Okur actually has a similar game to Lopez on the offensive side of the ball. Both are comically slow and favor mid-range jumpers to a traditional post up game. Okur is a solid rebounder, and is much better at rebounding and probably a better defender than Lopez………Grade: B+

Full article…
http://www.opposingviews.com/i/sports/nba/nba-analysis-grading-mehmet-okur-new-jersey-nets-trade

by M I K E on Dec 23, 2011 11:08 AM EST reply actions  

people are naive

If they think lopez prefers perimeter jumpers. Avery made him do that. He’s so much better on the block and relishes drawing contact.

by Jack Handy Jr on Dec 23, 2011 11:18 AM EST via mobile up reply actions   1 recs

the more you read people write about Lopez

the more it becomes clear that we have a lot of so called journalists that make claims and write articles about players that they DO NOT WATCH PLAY on a regular basis

The idea that Lopez is some Andrea Bargnani-esque jumpshooter is beyond idiotic. The only other center to get to the FT line as much as Brook last year was DH12.

Moronic drivel.

by MrDollarBills on Dec 23, 2011 11:21 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

dwight..

Only six big men went to the line more, one center, the rest power forwards.

However I can’t blame them, the nets are never on national tv , and most people rather not watch them.

by Jack Handy Jr on Dec 23, 2011 11:24 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

hahahah

can you blame them?

This team would have been unwatchable if King didn’t make those moves. I at least can safely say that I will be able to sit down and watch my team play without cringing this season now that we have defenders and shooters.

by MrDollarBills on Dec 23, 2011 11:25 AM EST up reply actions  

On my FanPost, I included a poll to see whether or not fasn thought we'd still get Dwight

so far, 115 votes:
61 Yes
54 No

Nets fans still very optimistic. I like it.

RIP baby. I love you forever. Our dream of seeing D12 with the Nets is getting closer.

by lupojohn3 on Dec 23, 2011 11:10 AM EST reply actions  

at least Deron's

excited about playing with Memo again. that’s always a good thing.

wolves never rest

by pope of lofe on Dec 23, 2011 11:17 AM EST reply actions  

-
DeronWilliams Deron Williams
“@MichaeldWhite: @DeronWilliams Dwill to money is back in business” glad to be playing with my boy Memo again!!!!
15 hours ago

by M I K E on Dec 23, 2011 11:26 AM EST up reply actions  

As upsetting this Brook injury is..

it is also a blessing in disguise. If brook was not injured trade rumors would haunt us everyday until the trade deadline, now we can focus on the team we have at the moment without the Dwight distractions. Hopfully Lopez comes back with enough time to showcase him before the trade deadline.

by vicxdel on Dec 23, 2011 11:17 AM EST reply actions  

+1

@ HowardBeckNYT
Deal done, source says. NBA is back.
-November 26th, 3:17 am.

by Andy. on Dec 23, 2011 11:20 AM EST up reply actions  

i'm wary

about the rush to showcase him before the deadline. I hope Brook will be alright

by MrDollarBills on Dec 23, 2011 11:31 AM EST up reply actions  

making someone

put on a show for the people while it has a broken foot may blow up in our faces.

by MrDollarBills on Dec 23, 2011 11:32 AM EST up reply actions  

OT:

did you guys finish your holiday shopping?

by MrDollarBills on Dec 23, 2011 11:24 AM EST reply actions  

I buy everyone

gift cards and liquor.

Simple and easy.

by MrDollarBills on Dec 23, 2011 11:24 AM EST up reply actions  

hahaha

i’m not sure why everyone doesn’t go this route

there are plenty of times where I’ve received an ugly sweater when a gift card or a bottle of some devil water would have sufficed.

by MrDollarBills on Dec 23, 2011 11:29 AM EST up reply actions  

Not even close man

im going the BK way, putting all my eggs in one basket (pray Xmas gets cancelled) and hope for the best

by nwkiddnj on Dec 23, 2011 11:26 AM EST up reply actions  

lmao

i hate christmas to be honest but i like giving people stuff

by MrDollarBills on Dec 23, 2011 11:28 AM EST up reply actions  

OMG SHOCKER!!!!!!!!

MDB HATES CHRISTMAS? lol this is SO typical of your narcissistic personality.
I’m surprised you haven’t told us about your Grinch costume! ;)

by corky_romano4life on Dec 23, 2011 11:30 AM EST up reply actions  

I like the spirit

of giving gifts but I don’t like the commercialized mayhem that Christmas has become

i mean you have people trampling and tazing each other the day after thanksgiving for deals. It’s not worth it. keep it simple imo.

by MrDollarBills on Dec 23, 2011 11:39 AM EST up reply actions  

I got your back MDB

That is more X-mas than what most consider or obsess about over xmas.
The ultimate insult about X-mas is that it is a call to be merciful, and kind and giving and loving at one particular point in the year.
That is the grand insult.
It should be a 365 a day concept.

by Jron on Dec 23, 2011 11:52 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

It should be a 365 a day concept.

my sentiments exactly.

by MrDollarBills on Dec 23, 2011 12:16 PM EST up reply actions  

I finished my shopping but I have to do all my wrapping tonight.

Fighting through an ear infection though! An ear infection! What kind of 30 year old man gets an ear infection? I guess I am sort of a man-child.

by Coach Joe on Dec 23, 2011 11:29 AM EST up reply actions  

I’ve just left a giant Zappos box sitting next to the front door for weeks. I told my wife not to touch it, but haven’t mentioned anything since. Shoes, glorious shoes!

by Coach Joe on Dec 23, 2011 11:36 AM EST up reply actions  

ah

playing with her emotions eh?

pimping

by MrDollarBills on Dec 23, 2011 11:39 AM EST up reply actions  

Meh Bynum, Hynum...

dude is still not going to play 1st five games cause of this…

Go ahead take’em Orlando…

Niners,Nets,Reds & USC!!!

The Most Interesting Man In The World---->Mikhail Prokhorov!!!

by Kidd2Petrovic on Dec 23, 2011 11:32 AM EST reply actions   1 recs

they probably will

if he gets injured, well the playing field becomes level imo

by MrDollarBills on Dec 23, 2011 11:42 AM EST up reply actions  

Billy has made this season watchable

That one simple move will allow me to actually think we can win some games.

Now if Djames, Shaw Will and Mbrooks can step it up a level we can be competitive.

Hump needs to come back in the same form as last year asap.

by power_njerz on Dec 23, 2011 11:33 AM EST reply actions  

If we can get one of Damion James, Marshon Brooks or Anthony Morrow to score 17ppg we will surprise a lot of people.

by Coach Joe on Dec 23, 2011 11:38 AM EST up reply actions  

or 40+ points out of the three of them.

by Coach Joe on Dec 23, 2011 11:40 AM EST up reply actions  

I think Hump

Is going to have a better year then last year.

I grabbed 19 rebounds in my first professional game, and somehow found a way to score 20 points. I felt real good about it. I felt that this was the beginning of something good.

-Julius Erving

by Jay2fly on Dec 23, 2011 11:37 AM EST reply actions  

10 Weeks... damn
Colin Stephenson @Ledger_Nets 14m Reply Retweet Favorite · Open
Your Nets comments: Brook Lopez injured, could miss 10 weeks: Highlighting the best Nets comme bit.ly/rOzhtw

by vijay311 on Dec 23, 2011 11:37 AM EST reply actions  

but that sounds about right; it took robin 7 weeks. He can’t rush this or it’ll just fracture again.

@ HowardBeckNYT
Deal done, source says. NBA is back.
-November 26th, 3:17 am.

by Andy. on Dec 23, 2011 11:42 AM EST up reply actions  

Sounds about right...

The important thing is that he comes back healthy and can pass Orlando’s physical…

by M I K E on Dec 23, 2011 11:43 AM EST up reply actions  

sheesh.....

that’s approx. March 2 from today!!! Trade deadline is what? March 15?

Niners,Nets,Reds & USC!!!

The Most Interesting Man In The World---->Mikhail Prokhorov!!!

by Kidd2Petrovic on Dec 23, 2011 11:46 AM EST up reply actions  

or it's still ending of feb

Niners,Nets,Reds & USC!!!

The Most Interesting Man In The World---->Mikhail Prokhorov!!!

by Kidd2Petrovic on Dec 23, 2011 11:59 AM EST up reply actions  

elbowing point guards to the back is Bynum's thing

He did it the other night to Billups light elbow* Chauncey stared him down.

"I define passion as extreme emotion."

When you have to shoot, shoot don't talk.

by universal on Dec 23, 2011 4:29 PM EST up reply actions  

matt barrnes also…pushed griffin the other day.

@ HowardBeckNYT
Deal done, source says. NBA is back.
-November 26th, 3:17 am.

by Andy. on Dec 23, 2011 11:44 AM EST up reply actions  

Its funny

How Barnes thought he had the inside track on Dwight going to LA

by djeterfan on Dec 23, 2011 11:45 AM EST via Android app up reply actions  

I saw a lot of jawing

and a lot of backing away

There’s no way in hell Beasley should have let that one fly without trying to maim Andrew Bynum. He could have been killed

by MrDollarBills on Dec 23, 2011 12:19 PM EST up reply actions  

Acting out is the only way Barnes can get in a highlight reel.

"Chuckers ain't champions" -- James Naismith, 1891

by calling all toasters on Dec 23, 2011 12:02 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

i like matt barnes tho

he’s a very physical old school player, but u never see him harm another player, he mightve gotten a flagrant once or twice but its ALWAYS on the ground. really backs up his teammates

by netsnation on Dec 23, 2011 12:09 PM EST up reply actions  

he's not as bad as Bynum

who is a coward and a bully. but he’s definitely a little nuts and needs to be suspended a couple of games a year.

"Chuckers ain't champions" -- James Naismith, 1891

by calling all toasters on Dec 23, 2011 12:16 PM EST up reply actions  

Beh Shoved blake Griffen over in preseason

But yeah Bynum is punk taking people out in the air.

"Next year, with a full training camp, I think he can go after that Scott Skiles' record of 30." - Billy King

by shea23 on Dec 23, 2011 12:25 PM EST up reply actions  

lol so true

"Next year, with a full training camp, I think he can go after that Scott Skiles' record of 30." - Billy King

by shea23 on Dec 23, 2011 12:24 PM EST up reply actions  

Can't stand Barnes preason too hes scum

"Next year, with a full training camp, I think he can go after that Scott Skiles' record of 30." - Billy King

by shea23 on Dec 23, 2011 12:22 PM EST up reply actions  

bynum is such a lame, the main one who be getting injured all the time wants to hit someone??

Hope someone do that to him and he gets injured like he always do. hate when players do that in bball

by netsnation on Dec 23, 2011 11:53 AM EST up reply actions  

say what you want about Bynum, but...

Right now he is actually healthy and playing well.

by Benl1 on Dec 23, 2011 11:54 AM EST reply actions  

he ain't playing for the first 5 games

Niners,Nets,Reds & USC!!!

The Most Interesting Man In The World---->Mikhail Prokhorov!!!

by Kidd2Petrovic on Dec 23, 2011 11:55 AM EST up reply actions  

He had 1 good preseason game, actually only the first half

The big word with him is potential. He still has to prove he can last a whole season and be dominant.

by djeterfan on Dec 23, 2011 11:58 AM EST via Android app up reply actions  

he has to prove

that he can handle the scoring load as well as being the main focus of the opposing defense

you know, kinda like brook

by MrDollarBills on Dec 23, 2011 12:22 PM EST up reply actions  

on Dec 21st you could have said the same thing about Brook

In the 1st Quarter he was healthy and playing well. No one can predict what’s going to happen next – to any player. (Except we know Bynum will be healthy for the first 5 games.) Wish we hadn’t had to play starters during the pre-season – but with such a short camp/pre-season it was necessary.

by fastbreak7 on Dec 23, 2011 1:07 PM EST up reply actions  

I am hoping for two things

1. LAL are not a desirable place for Howard, and he turns down an extension.
2. Otis is stubborn and holds onto Howard past trade deadline

by Benl1 on Dec 23, 2011 11:56 AM EST reply actions  

I think I'd like option 2

But it would be bc ownership is too stubborn. They are obviously running things.

by djeterfan on Dec 23, 2011 11:59 AM EST via Android app up reply actions  

option 2 would be the best

I’d imagine though that Dan Fegan will eviscerate the Magic and will threaten to steer clients away from them if they screw Howard out of his $$$

by MrDollarBills on Dec 23, 2011 12:22 PM EST up reply actions  

WOW PAUSE

We’re all freaking out about the Nets and Dwight… Two people from my town just died in the last 24 hours… really puts this basketball thing in perspective.

by corky_romano4life on Dec 23, 2011 11:59 AM EST reply actions  

Does this make any sense ?

Fans analysis on Okur trade (CBSSPORTS.COM)…

This move for the Nets does not change anything for the Howard trade.

In fact, I think it could help. If the Magic were to take Okur as part (a small part) of any trade with the Nets, his contract would be off the books after this season. That would leave space to go after any FAs that would be left. Of course, the most desired FA is Howard.

If the Magic were to take, say Lopez, Okur, Jordan Farmar, Jordan Williams and 2 1st round picks (only for the sake of this statement, ok) for Hedo and Howard, then Okur’s salary is more than all the others and helps the Magic stay closer to 90% of the cap. Or whatever is needed to meet min. salary level without long term damage.

by M I K E on Dec 23, 2011 12:00 PM EST reply actions  

Wilson Chandler in March?

I’d take him just as soon as AK47 at the sf.

This is if Djames isnt producing of course.

If he can give us 12pts 7rbs and score inside like he was doing in preseason he will be fine.

by power_njerz on Dec 23, 2011 12:01 PM EST reply actions  

Chandler would be nice

But he’s an RFA and I see Den matching. Also I don’t think we would have capspace

by djeterfan on Dec 23, 2011 12:04 PM EST via Android app up reply actions  

I kind of like this fans analysis of Okur trade..At least the first part. (LOL)
Okur can play bro!! He was pretty good while in Utah and healthy. The Nets on the other hand will ALWAYS be HORRIBLE!!!
For Gods sake their the Nets!!!!

by M I K E on Dec 23, 2011 12:03 PM EST reply actions  

From Orlando blog on SB*NATION discussing what deal to take for Howard...
Nets fans will be quick to point out, however, that this broken foot has more potential than any other broken foot in the league.

by Redfield on Dec 23, 2011 8:41 AM EST reply actions 5 rec

http://www.orlandopinstripedpost.com/2011/12/23/2656932/dwight-howard-trade-rumors-brook-lopez-injury-mehmet-okur-trade-nets-magic

by M I K E on Dec 23, 2011 12:19 PM EST up reply actions  

as opposed to Bynum's shot knees

this is why Lopez going down was beyond awful for us.

by MrDollarBills on Dec 23, 2011 12:25 PM EST up reply actions  

i think that dude thinks the same way lol
Crappy trade gets crappier


So we can choose between an overrated center with bad knees or an overrated center with a bad foot. Hurray.

by Aidar Berlinbayev on Dec 23, 2011 12:39 PM EST up reply actions  

We would be a first round exit

But wow, remember actually being there?

Section 18, Row 7 at The Rock!
"Your 2010-2011 New Jersey Nets - It Is What It Is"

by eLonepb on Dec 23, 2011 12:15 PM EST reply actions  

this team has a long way to go

to be as good as the Pacers, Sixers, or Hawks. We’re barely equal to the Pistons, Bucks, or Wizards. Anywhere from 9 to 12 in the East is the most likely outcome.

"Chuckers ain't champions" -- James Naismith, 1891

by calling all toasters on Dec 23, 2011 12:21 PM EST up reply actions  

I been arguing with a Mavs/Knix fan all morning

He sayin the Okur move doesnt mean anything. I say it means everything.
A move had to be made and it was done
DWill obviously made the request
Billy King came through same day
Dwight doesnt get those kind of results even though he makes the requests
Nets still have a shot @ the playoffs
Brook wont have to rush back
the front court will be deep come playoff time
Orlando could have called for Okur or some other expiring deal to have cap space next summer but signed 2 players to long contracts

by DJ HeavyDuty on Dec 23, 2011 12:32 PM EST via Android app up reply actions  

it was a great move, period.

by MrDollarBills on Dec 23, 2011 12:35 PM EST up reply actions  

Ledger_Nets Colin Stephenson
Nets say doctors inserted a screw to the foot. They say he’ll be back in 6-8 weeks. Good luck with that.

by d2d on Dec 23, 2011 12:18 PM EST reply actions  

KBergCBS Ken Berger
Nets announce that Brook Lopez had screw inserted into right foot and will be out 6-8 weeks. Rehab begins in 2 weeks.

by d2d on Dec 23, 2011 12:19 PM EST up reply actions  

Good luck with that.

god help us

by MrDollarBills on Dec 23, 2011 12:28 PM EST up reply actions  

Colin is a complete tool.

there is no literary, journalistic, or marketing integrity with him anywhere.

I’ll bet he got the moiso beat out of him in school, and now he’s a media bully.

by KiddShizzle on Dec 23, 2011 12:48 PM EST up reply actions  

do we need private eyes?

"Chuckers ain't champions" -- James Naismith, 1891

by calling all toasters on Dec 23, 2011 12:22 PM EST up reply actions  

a screw is nih foot did D James get this?

Is it normal?

"Next year, with a full training camp, I think he can go after that Scott Skiles' record of 30." - Billy King

by shea23 on Dec 23, 2011 12:28 PM EST reply actions  

in his

"Next year, with a full training camp, I think he can go after that Scott Skiles' record of 30." - Billy King

by shea23 on Dec 23, 2011 12:29 PM EST up reply actions  

is this stupid iphone

"Next year, with a full training camp, I think he can go after that Scott Skiles' record of 30." - Billy King

by shea23 on Dec 23, 2011 12:58 PM EST up reply actions  

DJ never was able to bounce back either

in a shortened season, I dunno if the odds are in Brook’s favor here.

by MrDollarBills on Dec 23, 2011 12:34 PM EST up reply actions  

sigh

"Next year, with a full training camp, I think he can go after that Scott Skiles' record of 30." - Billy King

by shea23 on Dec 23, 2011 12:58 PM EST up reply actions  

long time reader

I’m a long time reader..rare poster..What is the expected starting lineup now for opening night? D-Will,Hump,and Memo are a given..SG and SF?

by jerzymook on Dec 23, 2011 12:34 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

Morrow and James more than likely

by MrDollarBills on Dec 23, 2011 12:35 PM EST up reply actions  

6th...7th?

Sheldon and D-shawn?

by jerzymook on Dec 23, 2011 12:37 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

Also include Shawne if he's healthy...

SF is still a problem area for us…

Anybody hear anything on Shawne’s health status ?

by M I K E on Dec 23, 2011 12:40 PM EST up reply actions  

At practice

"We're not there yet, but we're going somewhere," Johnson said. "And we're going to Brooklyn. We're not going to contract. We're going to Brooklyn."

by Atronic on Dec 23, 2011 3:02 PM EST up reply actions  

I wonder

who will be the odd man out

Damion James, Shawne Williams, Marshon Brooks, Anthony Morrow, Deshawn Stevenson

who gets shafted for PT

by MrDollarBills on Dec 23, 2011 12:39 PM EST reply actions  

With the brutal schedule this year...

due to the condensed season…everybody will be needed. Add in injuries and even Jordan Williams might get some playing time…D James and Morrow are injury prone and who knows if Shelden Williams and Okfur can hold up.

This year many players will feel the strain of playing so many games in a short period of time.
Lot of back to backs and even one back to back to back…

It will be intersting to see how older players and players with history of injury (I.E. Amare) hold up this season and how many minutes they actually play each game.

“All hands on deck…”

by M I K E on Dec 23, 2011 12:47 PM EST up reply actions  

That's what I was thinking!

We should package two for one much better player

by corky_romano4life on Dec 23, 2011 12:57 PM EST up reply actions  

James starts

Williams play most of the back up minutes, Morrow will get a lot of time at the two. Stevenson will swtich from the two to three esp when we’re playing teams with star wings. Brooks will probably have to earn his spot and start out as odd man out. Took a long time for AJ to play DJ and that was wtth Outlaw stinking it up. Although you can argue he wanted to defend his signing.

"Next year, with a full training camp, I think he can go after that Scott Skiles' record of 30." - Billy King

by shea23 on Dec 23, 2011 1:01 PM EST up reply actions  

New Jazzy Nets

If we get one more Jazz player, Kirilinko, then it is official the New Jazzy Nets. If James can play smart and aggressive, not a bad team. But I’d sure love to see another defensive stud like Kirilinko, especially with Hump and Okur up front.

by oman8 on Dec 23, 2011 12:42 PM EST reply actions  

If Brooks develops he should see a lot of minutes by mid-season..but you’re right we need defensive help..Brooks can’t defend right now..so he needs help so he can stay on the court long enough to polish his offensive game

by jerzymook on Dec 23, 2011 12:45 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

Since your are new at posting a word of advice..

Please hit the reply button at the bottom of the comment your responding to. Otherwise your reply is confusing and makes no sense. Plus NetsDaily and Net Income get pissed off. Thanks…

by M I K E on Dec 23, 2011 12:50 PM EST up reply actions  

Like this

by jerzymook on Dec 23, 2011 12:52 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

So since I’m new maybe you can help me out…Moiso?..I know there was a dude named Moiso who played for us for a bit..but what’s the meaning in here?

by jerzymook on Dec 23, 2011 1:03 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

moiso...

…is Netsdaily’s suggested euphemism for a curse word.

…sorta like bringing a butterknife to a sword fight.

by KiddShizzle on Dec 23, 2011 1:06 PM EST up reply actions  

God...I created a monster !

You doing just fine jerzymook…(LOL)

by M I K E on Dec 23, 2011 1:17 PM EST up reply actions  

Now Ill just have to

Learn the lingo..and how to decifer what’s sarcasm and whats straight craziness

by jerzymook on Dec 23, 2011 1:42 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

LOL Kerber
With DWilliams, Okur, Stevenson, Humphries and Gaines, Nets now picked to finish second in Northwest Division behind Thunder.

by corky_romano4life on Dec 23, 2011 1:20 PM EST reply actions  

I think it's great how the 2 franchises have ultimately merged fan bases

Most of the Nets fans I know personally now root for the Jazz, seeing how most of the Nets’ promising assets went there and they still root for them to succeed.

And I know a few Jazz fans that still root for D-Will to do something truly special wit his career, and would love to see the little brother Nets eclipse the Goliath Knicks after the Nets land Dwight Howard.

by Murse Mike on Dec 23, 2011 1:56 PM EST reply actions  

I live I Orlando an I’m From newark Dwight to brick city is what make sence for the magics they already was gonna do the trade but Orlando needs Dwight for the All Star game.

by nets_heroe on Dec 23, 2011 4:41 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

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