Magic Strategy? Let Howard Sit, Then Pursue Lopez In Free Agency
by Net Income on Dec 22, 2011 12:00 PM EST
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PrintBrian Schmitz, the longtime Magic writer turned columnist, thinks the Magic could simply let Dwight Howard sit around for the rest of the season, not deal him at the deadline, and let him become a free agent rather than trading him for a mediocre package. Schmitz also suggests the Magic would then turn to Brook Lopez with their new cap space.
If the Magic did that, the consequences for Howard would be enormous. If he's traded to another team by the deadline, he could sign a new contract for $109 million over five years come July 1. If he becomes a free agent after the season, his contract options are more limited. In fact, he might have to leave $25+ million on the table in a new deal with the Nets or Lakers.
Schmitz also reports the Lakers have yet to get back to Otis Smith on his proposal of Howard for Andrew Bynum and Pau Gasol. Finally, he notes that taking back the onerous contracts of Hedo Turkoglu and Chris Duhon is not necessarily a requirement.
- GM Otis Smith isn't entirely sold on trading Dwight Howard just to trade him - Brian Schmitz - Orlando Sentinel.
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otis smith and orlando
SMH is all i can do.
by 1stnamelastname on Dec 22, 2011 12:01 PM EST reply actions
What the Heck??
Lopez is a restricted free agent in the summer, why the heck would we not match any offer? He’ll get a max deal with us.
Orlando are complete and utter nut jobs
by N.Ireland Nets Fan on Dec 22, 2011 12:03 PM EST reply actions
S.M.H
I support the Giants like bras support Kim Kardashian's boobs. It can be a struggle, we've had some jiggles, but we're still firm.
by BigBlueIntervention on Dec 22, 2011 12:05 PM EST reply actions
Part of me is starting to think that
Orlando ownership is to blame behind all of the claimed Otis Smith stupidity.
I mean, the guy can’t be THAT stupid, can he? After all, the commonly accepted reason that the Dwight/Brook deal fell apart was that ownership nixed it, after Otis worked hard on it…
Uuhhhmm
Last I heard, we were moving to Brooklyn next season. Has this changed and only this writer knows about it?
There are other reasons not to go to the Nets. It’s in New Jersey, hardly a garden state. And I’m pretty sure Dwight doesn’t listen to Springsteen, which is required by law. The Heat are reason enough for him to head West.
it’s probably the same guy who was living under a rock in the geico commercial
by avilanets85 on Dec 22, 2011 12:11 PM EST up reply actions 8 recs
Nope, I'm pretty sure we would have to rescind his bird rights
Although if they do what Bosh, Wade and LeBron did its possible.
UNtrue. His cap hold is only 4 or 5 million. There will be enough space cleared for Dwight without renouncing Brook
Also, we are no doubt dumping Farmar soon.
that's what I thought
So Orlando will over brook 4 year 32 million dollar contract and we won’t match it? LOL
that is less money than Outlaw got FFS!
if we can deal away our expirings then, yes
Stealing Dwight from Orlando is still the most ideal scenario, as we get a chance to also re-sign Deron and Lopez, but I still very much doubt Dwight won’t be traded by March.
A max contract is 30% of the salary cap. In theory, you can have 3 × 30% max players, then 10%+ in el cheapo role players. See Miami of course.
near-max at least
at least Nene-sized, which is just a couple mil starting off max anyway.
Lopez is going to be a 22/8/1.5 playa haven’t you heard
It depends
We can currently fit Deron+Dwight+Lopez if we shed Farmar and/or Petro, renounce Humphries & sign Dwight & Deron immediately, like 12:01am on the day FAs can sign. We can fit those two plus Lopez’s initial cap hold. As soon as Lopez receives an offer though, that becomes the new cap hold. It will certainly be more than his $7.7mil cap hold, and that would kill our ability to fit both Dwight & Lopez if the deal comes in pre-Howard signing.
wow orlando is the dumbest franchise i have ever dealt with i mean WOW
by netsyankees4life on Dec 22, 2011 12:06 PM EST reply actions
"I have ever dealt with"
Billy is that you?
by nwkiddnj on Dec 22, 2011 12:32 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Orlando fans would be very angry without a Center if they cant get Lopez
They would still have
Jameer
JJ Reddick
Hedo
barley any cap
That's why I see them pulling the trigger
They’d be nuts not to get anything back. Fans would be that much more pissed off.
I can't see Orlando walking away with nothing.
Even if Orlando got NOTHING BACK, just being able to dump the salaries of Hedo and Duhon are motivation enough to move Howard before the trade deadline. Howard WILL be somewhere else, the day after the trade deadline. I had a dream of this last night. Howard, as part of our starting five next season, with me backing up DWILL at the point. I am a wonderful passer! Go NETS!
Paul from Sunny Delray Beach, Florida
by PaulErstein on Dec 22, 2011 12:07 PM EST reply actions 2 recs
not going to lie
I had a dream last night that Howard went to the Lakers.
I love the Nets...too bad they don't love me...
by BEB on Dec 22, 2011 12:51 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
Otis Smith, ladies and gentlemen!
Let’s give the man a round of applause.
NetsDaily.com
by NetsDaily on Dec 22, 2011 12:07 PM EST reply actions 10 recs
clap clap clap
DWill oop to D12
Otis Smith makes Travis Outlaw look like Avery Johnson
by 3ptChucker on Dec 22, 2011 12:15 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
This will only get worse and will FAR exceed the melo drama
In terms of ridiculousness on the part of Orlando’s front office. How is our package mediocre when they would pursue brook as a free agent????
Oh, and taking back your toxic contracts (aka the physical evidence of your ineptitude) is no longer necessary??? Then we gladly won’t do it
Because he's not playing GM
The owners are. He wants to keep his job so he’s doing exactly what ownership is telling him to do. Ownership can’t stomach trading him and admitting failure. They have too much pride.
This is soo stupid on soo many levels, it hurts
Why would the Nets not sign dwight then use bird rules to resign their own player to a max extension.
Also, what is more stupid about this is that Brook will go for way more than 10 million a year. The Brook underestimation is soo shocking.
I call BS
Otis is full of BS – Fool’s Gold.
It that is the strategy, remove Lopez from the original trade and let them go after him during the offseason.
Dwill
Stevenson
SF
Lopez
Howard – Sorry Howard not our fault you lose $25mill.
I really hope this goes through
Operation: Orlando Tragic1. Don’t trade Superstar for cap relief, picks and young players
2. Attempt to steal player from Team you could have easily dealt with later
3. Watch Superstar Player Walk
4. Lose out on Lopez
5. Get Nothing.
I hope this happens.
by Ccrules2791 on Dec 22, 2011 12:09 PM EST reply actions 4 recs
feel lucky?
DWill oop to D12
Otis Smith makes Travis Outlaw look like Avery Johnson
by 3ptChucker on Dec 22, 2011 12:30 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
"Operation Orlando Tragic"
Anybody got any duct tape???
"The mind is its own place, and in itself can make a heaven of hell, a hell of heaven"
by aunt-B on Dec 22, 2011 12:51 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
I could see Smith waiting till the deadline and not being happy
The only issue with this is that it would basically come down to the Lakers willingness to offer Gasol and Bynum. If they go for Lopez in free agency they would have to get him to sign BEFORE we signed Dwight, we would most likely have to let Brook go at that point.
this dude is an idiot
but what sucks is if Lakers get off to a bad start and offer Pau/Drew for D12…Nets are screwed
METS JETS NETS LAKERS........... OFWGKTA....FREE EARL. Odd Future Records.
Adam Morrison got his team multiple championships barely trying, if that's not a great player...I don't know who is.
He is
and history has proven that.
VC
Remember when VC was becoming a FA, Otis called VC fools gold. Only to trade for him a year later. Otis could have gotten him without losing assets.
Turk
They didnt want to pay Turk. Then a year later they trade assets for turk.
SMH!!!!!
Billy remove Lopez from this deal. Otis wont mind. He is an idiot.
by SIC One on Dec 22, 2011 12:14 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
LMAO
Really? Otis are you serious? you sure can have lopez in a sign and trade for Dwight
by DJ HeavyDuty on Dec 22, 2011 12:10 PM EST via Android app reply actions
Has Otis been hitting the bottle...?
"The mind is its own place, and in itself can make a heaven of hell, a hell of heaven"
"Yeah...me and Otis hung out together all the time back then..."
“He used to come up with some weird stuff after a few stiff ones…” “Don’t know what ever became of him after Dwight left”
me too. me, otis and johnny hopkins, we were blazing that s@#$ up
by avilanets85 on Dec 22, 2011 12:35 PM EST up reply actions
Um, please
We’ll get Dwight via free agency AND match any offer for Lopez that this pitiful excuse of a franchise (who nicknames their team Magic?) will offer. Sounds perfect to me.
i sure hope that's orlando's plan
but i highly doubt it. with brook and D12 both we’d be a perennial powerhouse
we’re talking dynasty with those 3 on our team
by avilanets85 on Dec 22, 2011 12:12 PM EST up reply actions
so this means that they do like lopez
i was border line if they wanted him or not i guess they do
Jarrod N Rudolph @MisterRudolph Juicy trade rumor brewing, and not it’s not about Dwight Howard. Looking into it w/ a few guys. Will Tweet when I can confirm something.
thing is...
….if they’re about to land someone that makes D12 happy…there goes BK’s plan.
And Orl is still one of the places he’d sign if they get players he likes. It’s not the bron situation.
by Versifiervt on Dec 22, 2011 12:16 PM EST up reply actions
Ha, that is just comical
This writer is an idiot. There is nothing here that is even close to reality
Explain this to me...
If they want Lopez, why not trade him for Howard?
They lost Shaq…
Then T-Mac…
And will lose Howard.
Ownership is doing something wrong here, if they can’t hold on to their star players.
General Manager of WRNU Rutgers-Newak Radio Station
New Jersey Nets Beat Writer for Rutgers-Newark The Observer
i dont think this is even remotely true
it doesnt make sense
so youd lose what ever draft picks you could get from the nets and still have hedos contract
this sounds like the writer made up this scenario
by mightymosdefinition on Dec 22, 2011 12:16 PM EST reply actions
So they like Lopez now. Enough to throw big money at him. LMAO. This is a ridiculous article.
Irelands source is way more credible.
This guy,
is wow just wow. I’m speechless.
Love the Jersey hate
Yes please, let him go as a free agent. PLEASE!!
Section 18, Row 7 at The Rock!
"Your 2010-2011 New Jersey Nets - It Is What It Is"
I think that Kobe Bryant would rather have Pau and Bynum than Dwight Howard and nobody.
Just my thought.
my thoughts too
Kobe wants to be the best he doesn’t need a superstar team to win.
makes no sense.......
Its not just about Lopez… ITS GETTING THE DRAFT PICKS!!!! stupid article
Sounds like a plan but no doubt
I think nets are planning some sort of trade. Farmar sat which should be some sort of indication because we all know gaines isn’t better. And despite all of our hopes on dwight I’m confident King won’t be letting us start a season with this team.
Lmao at @ Orlando FO/Otis
Are they really this stupid? Brook is an RFA, meaning we will match WHATEVER price we need to.
Howard will just walk away for nothing LOL
Dwll+Lopez+Howard= championships
Trade value superrr low
Section 18, Row 7 at The Rock!
"Your 2010-2011 New Jersey Nets - It Is What It Is"
unless Kobe goes down for the season, there is no way they are trading both Pau and Bynum
Kobe would be pissed, their whole oppurtunity for a championship this season would go out the window
Can't Dwight sign
a 2 year deal with the second year as an option and then sign an extension the following season for the 5 year max? He would lose out on a little bit of money his first season here but overall it would still be financially feasible.
Also we can sign Dwight as a FA and then resign Brook to be our PF since we have his bird rights. You can resign your own players to go over the cap, correct?
That's like saying, "I'll take whatever's in the box".
by BrooklynNets on Dec 22, 2011 12:23 PM EST reply actions 5 recs
Yes, Please!
DWill oop to D12
Otis Smith makes Travis Outlaw look like Avery Johnson
by 3ptChucker on Dec 22, 2011 12:25 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
All we heard was how much they didn't like the Lopez package
now they are planning to pursue the guy? This is why I won’t belive a thing until the paperwork is done.
You do realize
The Lakers are going to get him dont you? Lakers cant sit around and play little brother to the Clippers who are obviously better right now. Yes, I know its only preseason. But they will give in and give ORL what they want to get Howard. And we are left with NADA!
by NoMoreNets on Dec 22, 2011 12:26 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Clips have three great players (Paul, Billups, Griffin) and a deep bench.
Lakers have 2 great players (Kobe and Pau), one potentially great player (Bynum) and a thin bench.
Howard makes sense if the Lakers are trying to steal the spotlight but if they are trying to win keeping Pau and Andrew makes more sense.
none of those players will help them
chandler is RFA, so Den can match.
JR smith, please
KMart and Brooks interesting, but i don’t think they’ll be able to sign both
by domininaldo1981 on Dec 22, 2011 1:01 PM EST up reply actions
w/e the magic front office and the magic fans are delusional..I don't mind waiting for him...and not having a trade happen...and getting him in the offseason
I’ve been waiting this long a little while longer won’t hurt me
Nobody has properly explained to me why the Nets and Magic can’t do a sign and trade at the beginning of free agency in July.
There is no Carmelo Anthony rule. The Magic can sign Howard to a 5 year/100+ contract and trade him to the Nets for Lopez + picks and players.
If there is a rule change please help me understand why they can’t do this.
Контракт в течение 5 лет может быть заключен с игроком который больше чем этаж года в тебе в команде.
I don't speak English
by RussianNets on Dec 22, 2011 12:29 PM EST up reply actions
And the Nets would do this because?...
The amount that the players ‘lose’ by not signing the Club Extend is severely overrated.
Disagree.
If it got to the point where he could just sign with the Nets outright and have the team be significantly better as a result, I highly doubt that he’d opt for the former when it only adds a miniscule percentage to his account.
Exactly
I would like to know if we can do this.
But One thing is
Why would you include Lopez in any deal now? Lopez should stay. Orlando only get TE and picks.
that is it.
They can't do that
Sign and trades can no longer give players a full bird rights deal. If Howard hits free agency, all the Magic could sign & trade him for would be the same 4 year, 4.5% raise deal we could sign him to.
Orlando sports writers are the worst in sports, I'm convinced
This article is just as bad as the guy who thought he was a genius when he came up with the “Lebron for Dwight trade. It makez sensnsez guyzzzz”
Section 18, Row 7 at The Rock!
"Your 2010-2011 New Jersey Nets - It Is What It Is"
I like the Lebron for Dwight trade. Riley should do it.
DWill oop to D12
Otis Smith makes Travis Outlaw look like Avery Johnson
LeBrons the best player in the league, why would he trade LeBron to Orlando and make them instant contendors?
by RandyOreens on Dec 22, 2011 12:38 PM EST up reply actions
wouldn’t dwight be out of orlando in that scenario. how would lebron make them instant contenders
by avilanets85 on Dec 22, 2011 12:39 PM EST up reply actions
uh, because he gets Dwight.... together with Wade and Bosh. Or he could also flip Bosh for another star.
Riddle me this, if you were to build a team from scratch today (for the next 5-8 years), which player would you pick first? Lebron or Dwight? I would take Dwight. Maybe you’d take Lebron. But many NBA experts would take Dwight.
DWill oop to D12
Otis Smith makes Travis Outlaw look like Avery Johnson
Branching off of this point...
Not to slow all of you guys down, but we did read that this was thought up by a Magic writer, correct? One who is, in no way, directly affiliated with the Magic (or more specifically, Orlando’s front-office).
This wasn’t a report; it was an opinion piece.
yup, a beat turned columnist as stated above
purely an opinion.
highly possible that the opinion was “fed” to him by a “source”.
I still believe we can do IT !
I really hope they lose howard for nothing
And he comes to brooklyn with lopez retained
by Pure baller15 on Dec 22, 2011 12:27 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Lopez is rfa.
Nets rushing things through and we get Howard and Lopez nice. Magic= chumps
"Next year, with a full training camp, I think he can go after that Scott Skiles' record of 30." - Billy King
If they were this dumb dream line up come true
"Next year, with a full training camp, I think he can go after that Scott Skiles' record of 30." - Billy King
sooooo
you dont go after chris Paul… You trade for Jason Richardson…..
sign rashard Lewis to a terrible deal and trade him for a gun weilding wash up PG then amnesty him after your superstar says he wants to keep him
Now you think you can steal Brook Lopez from NJ?
by DJ HeavyDuty on Dec 22, 2011 12:38 PM EST reply actions 4 recs
The Orlando beat writers are saying a lot of stupid things because they are angry at the Nets and do not want to deal with our management.
It is perceived in Orlando that the Nets tampered with Howard, that is, went beyond the acceptable rules. Deron Williams and Dwight Howard can talk whenever they want but Howard talking to the Nets organization is not okay, if that was at all true in any capacity.
Not to say that the Magic THEMSELVES will not want to deal with the Nets. They simply want to keep Howard at least until the all-star break, if not past that point and sign and trade him next off-season.
oh okay. i thought maybe you heard that orlando wants to trade him my bad
by avilanets85 on Dec 22, 2011 12:49 PM EST up reply actions
There is some logic in the strategy
Otis can force our hand by signing Lopez to a front loaded or bloated offer sheet immediately. As soon as he does that, Lopez’s cap hold is the salary of the first year of the offer sheet.
Let’s say Orlando offers Lopez a 4 year deal starting at the max salary of $14.51mil and decreasing by 4.5% per year. That becomes a 4 year, $54mil deal. Not overly crazy for Lopez. If Orlando did that, the only way we could afford to max Howard, DWill & match Lopez would be if we dumped Farmar, Petro, Shawne Williams & Morrow.
Now what are the odds that we could sign Howard before they make an offer to Lopez, and not look like we had tampered?
Where we can totally moiso them is if the deadline passes, and we can agree to an extension with Lopez before FA hits that leaves us enough room to max out Howard.
Question
wouldnt they have to have cap space to offer any player a contract?
Would Dwight’s cap hold and cap situation permit that?
then we get Howard..... you see how this would work?
they renounce Howard, we get Howard.
They bid on Lopez, we match it.
They lose.
If they know Dwight is walking
They can renounce his bird rights.
Not really, we could guarantee lopez and tell him to wait on a contract
I’m sure he’d rather stay with Dwight and Deron and go to Brooklyn
LOL
Nets Mets Giants ALL DAY
by netsareboss on Dec 22, 2011 12:44 PM EST via iPhone app reply actions 1 recs
If Dwight gets screwed
he won’t even play and the NBAPA won’t stand for it. This won’t happen
by The Cole Train on Dec 22, 2011 12:44 PM EST reply actions
so Dwight will resign with Magic....
…to play alongside a player who’ll steal touches from him? Riiigggggght. It may make him think twice…but if he makes it to Free Agency….superman’s coming to Metropolis!
and i'm sure...
…Dwight would love seeing the lovefest between Anderson and Lopez all season long. uh huh.
by Versifiervt on Dec 22, 2011 12:49 PM EST up reply actions
im ready to deal farmar and pick up arenas and ak
by Pure baller15 on Dec 22, 2011 12:50 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Hey NI or someone else
please explain.
Can we do a S&T with Magic for Dwight where he still gets his 5 years?
by SIC One on Dec 22, 2011 12:50 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
No they didn't
They pulled of a sign and trade for 4 years, with 4.5% raises
Finally, he notes that taking back the onerous contracts of Hedo Turkoglu and Chris Duhon is not necessarily a requirement.
Great, now lets finish adding pieces to this team.
@ HowardBeckNYT
Deal done, source says. NBA is back.
-November 26th, 3:17 am.
Muhahahahah.....Orlando this is too good!!
Shall sit back and watch…..
Niners,Nets,Reds & USC!!!
The Most Interesting Man In The World---->Mikhail Prokhorov!!!
Just to point out they'd need to renounce Howard to make Lopeza good offer.
So bye bye bird rights, so its not like they would be doing it quickly.
"Next year, with a full training camp, I think he can go after that Scott Skiles' record of 30." - Billy King
if they renounce his bird rights then Howard can't sign a 5 year deal ANYWHERE, correct?
So DH12 would just have to pick between the mavs or nets.
This article is a completely false. The dude is just writing for attention. Even Otis smith is scratching his read reading this
Do not put any effort to even analyzing this dumb article.
If Otis refuses to trade Dwight purely out of spite
He will lose all credibility. The players will be angry for denying Dwight his money, and the whole city will turn on him for ruining the team. No way he can justify hoping to replacing dwight with brook when a package centered around that is on the table.
by Frigidevil on Dec 22, 2011 1:00 PM EST via Android app reply actions
Question can Dwight do a sign and trade in the offseason to get his
money. Like in the old CBA, and Lebron and Bosh did.
"Next year, with a full training camp, I think he can go after that Scott Skiles' record of 30." - Billy King
ie: can he get the 109 mill deal if the magic were to sign and trade him.
"Next year, with a full training camp, I think he can go after that Scott Skiles' record of 30." - Billy King
These types of sign and trade were outlawed?
"Next year, with a full training camp, I think he can go after that Scott Skiles' record of 30." - Billy King
the franchise that traded FOR Gilbert Arenas? noooo........
DWill oop to D12
Otis Smith makes Travis Outlaw look like Avery Johnson
I could still see a scenario where the Nets do a sign and trade in the off-season for Howard just so that the Magic can get some draft picks out of the Nets.
I know a lot of people are saying “why give them anything?” but General Managers all run in the same circles and the more friendly you can be with the other GMs, the more chance you’ll one day be able to pull a deal off.
The Nets can trade the Houston pick (if it materializes, the Rockets have to finish 15th or better in the NBA.) They can trade future picks. They’ll be able to take back Turkoglu’s last two years (as long as they don’t sign Kirilenko to a multi-year deal).
to not shed hedos contract in a trade would be insanity!!!
these guys are just stubborn and are playing games, this is horrible business on their end
This I agree with
But come the offseason, there’s only two years left on the deal. That means it really only is an albatross for one more year, then it becomes a tradable expiring contract.
I’m wondering if Orl thinks that by saying they like Lopez, it’ll put pressure on LA to do Bynum and Gasol.
Magic fans (sportswriters and the everyday fan) don’t want the Magic to deal Dwight to the Nets. At this point they’d rather him just leave then have to trade him to the team that expects it to happen.
It’s like being asked to lay over and die before the army comes to destroy your village. It might not make any sense but you are still going to fight it.
An extreme example but the point is there.
Looks like he wasn't talking about a Magic trade..
Jarrod Rudolph: I haven’t heard any Magic related trades this week. Still working to confirm other rumor. Don’t really like rumors much, to be honest. now
Is this rumor nets related
by Keysta101 on Dec 22, 2011 1:07 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
This deal between Orlando in NJ will happen in march. And either 2 of the following three will be included in the already rumored Lopez farmar picks trade.
Morrow/James/marshon. 2 of those three will
Be packaged to Orlando or elsewhere in 3 way.
Would that package still include Gerald Wallace and the Blazers you think?
I will easily part with Morrow and James…. would be sad to see Brooks go.
"Losing is the same as winning, only with fewer points." - Keith Van Horn (90s Nike commercial)
Blazer's don't make sense at the deadline
Wallace will opt out next year, so why would Orlando want him for less than half a season at the expense of all those draft picks?
if magic aren't having a good season, then expect a Dwight trade after the ASG
if they are playing well, expect him to walk if they fall short of atleast a finals berth
On Wednesday night, the sellout crowd at Madison Square Garden booed Humphries every time he touched the ball, and later chanted “We Want Humphries! We Want Humphries!” while he was sitting on the bench.
“I’ve never heard an opposing player be cheered to be put in the game,” point guard Deron Williams said. “… That was a nice gesture on their part.”
Never heard a player get booed like that and cheered later during the same game….NY fans.
@ HowardBeckNYT
Deal done, source says. NBA is back.
-November 26th, 3:17 am.
they were cheering for him to come back out so that they could BOO him some more, not cause they like him
duh.
Jet Black Ninja
8 > 3
obviously. But, never heard that before.
@ HowardBeckNYT
Deal done, source says. NBA is back.
-November 26th, 3:17 am.
its NYC, they know how to get under a players skin
I haven’t heard that before either, but I wasn’t surprised.
Jet Black Ninja
8 > 3
Funny thing is March will be what two months away
My lil man.....can't tell me god don't exist.
by killa kadafi191 on Dec 22, 2011 1:15 PM EST reply actions
exactly unlike the melo drama
where we tried to get him in september or august. I forget. Best thing to do is chill and wait. I keep reading this and say Otis can’t be this stupid but then again
My lil man.....can't tell me god don't exist.
by killa kadafi191 on Dec 22, 2011 1:17 PM EST up reply actions
naw
that’s what the article’s writer said. He said the nets with howard won’t be better than the magic. He also said as good as the Heat he should head west.
I guess it hurts to see your star leave for the Nets.
My lil man.....can't tell me god don't exist.
by killa kadafi191 on Dec 22, 2011 1:19 PM EST up reply actions
oh yea
My lil man.....can't tell me god don't exist.
by killa kadafi191 on Dec 22, 2011 1:23 PM EST up reply actions
would be funny if on Dec 29
Howard tanks the game and lets Lopez go off LOL
by domininaldo1981 on Dec 22, 2011 1:17 PM EST reply actions
I think BLo has that game circled on his calender & wants to show all parties involved...
Niners,Nets,Reds & USC!!!
The Most Interesting Man In The World---->Mikhail Prokhorov!!!
by Kidd2Petrovic on Dec 22, 2011 1:19 PM EST up reply actions
Does anyone really think Humphries isn’t going to love all the attention? If he’s really as self-centered as everyone thinks he is, he is going to eat up being booed everywhere he goes.
I know Yorkmarket is!!
free nets pub..
Niners,Nets,Reds & USC!!!
The Most Interesting Man In The World---->Mikhail Prokhorov!!!
by Kidd2Petrovic on Dec 22, 2011 1:20 PM EST up reply actions
I hope we sign more people
The fact that we lost to the Knicks bench with our starters playing so much
Official member of the I Love You Jerry25 Club
all of their starters minus Amare played 30+ mins
only DJames and DWill played over 30
RELEASE THE HOUNDS!!!!
No need to hold back- too bad we’re a day late and a dolla short.
OH well. Pickup whoever we can and hang on for the ride. If we get to keep Lopez and all other assets b/c ORL is STUPID then hey, why argue.
Jet Black Ninja
8 > 3
“It’s not about, ‘Oh, I want to play with this guy because he’s cool’ or trying to emulate what’s being done around the league. For Dwight, it’s all about being competitive and winning championships,” Richardson said about Howard looking elsewhere. “If he could get a championship in Idaho, Dwight would be in Idaho. Like I’m serious. Pick the worst city. If can win a championship there, Dwight will go.”
My lil man.....can't tell me god don't exist.
by killa kadafi191 on Dec 22, 2011 1:26 PM EST reply actions
I'm saying if Q is saying this someone who
Dwight considers a good friend how can Otis not get this.
My lil man.....can't tell me god don't exist.
by killa kadafi191 on Dec 22, 2011 1:28 PM EST up reply actions
Over it
I’m so over all this D12 drama. I mean, I wake up hoping there’s some good news out there or whatever. Stay up late because it might be a night for Woj, etc. Ugh! Just let’s start this season and hopefully it plays out the way we hope, with a deal for D12 once March comes around, little playoff excitement, and then both him and Deron sign extensions in the offseason to start off the franchise right in Brooklyn.
by Mikepop1027 on Dec 22, 2011 1:28 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Lopez and Howard had the same #'s last nite
If Lopez had hit his free throws he would have had the much better game.
If Brooks can become the player we hope and between Shawne Will and Djames if they can get 25-10 out of the SF spot we can be competitive if the team plays defense.
Sheldon Williams is a damn good backup pf. God rebounder just dont expect him to hit jumpers of catch fancy passes.
Lopez is massively undervalued in this league because of 1 bad year of rebounding.
Oh Moiso
Nets_PR Nets PR Dept.
Nets Center Brook Lopez has been diagnosed with a stress fracture of the fifth metatarsal of the right foot, Nets GM Billy King announced.
BROOK IS INJURED
Not good.
Nets_PR Nets PR Dept.
Nets Center Brook Lopez has been diagnosed with a stress fracture of the fifth metatarsal of the right foot, Nets GM Billy King announced.
nooooooooooooooooooooo
noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
by 1stnamelastname on Dec 22, 2011 1:31 PM EST up reply actions
surgery tomorrow
how long will he be out?
More
Nets_PR Nets PR Dept.
Lopez will have surgery tomorrow morning.
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Nets PR Dept.
Nets_PR Nets PR Dept.
Lopez injury occurred in first half of Nets preseason game at New York on Dec. 21. Lopez will undergo surgery on Fri. Dec. 23
Magic should learn the lesson the quicker you get it over with the better
"Next year, with a full training camp, I think he can go after that Scott Skiles' record of 30." - Billy King
Starting Center...
Petro??? No!!!!!!!!!!!!! We need AK47. Ugh. Injuries happen it doesn’t sound too bad.
wow what's
ironic people were talking about Bynum. smh
My lil man.....can't tell me god don't exist.
by killa kadafi191 on Dec 22, 2011 1:33 PM EST reply actions
Cram it with the those kind of comments, not the time.
"Next year, with a full training camp, I think he can go after that Scott Skiles' record of 30." - Billy King
do what justin says
My lil man.....can't tell me god don't exist.
by killa kadafi191 on Dec 22, 2011 1:36 PM EST up reply actions
I don't understand
"Next year, with a full training camp, I think he can go after that Scott Skiles' record of 30." - Billy King
The injury was in the first half of the game...
so it means he came back in the second half and played through it. It cannot be that bad.
Orlando is doing the right thing
As annoying as it may be, they might as well hold onto him. I mean, the Nets offer isn’t going anywhere. They know it’s essentially Dwight or bust for the Nets franchise. Might as well hold onto him and wait till the deadline to see if they can convince/or get better offers from else where even without Dwight guaranteeing to sign extension.
Now I hear about Lopez being injured, and this sucks moiso*
*the correct term around these parts, from what I’ve read.
well the nets offer sucks anyways
"Everything looks nicer when you win. The girls are prettier, the cigars taste better. The trees are greener."
by NJ Champ on Dec 22, 2011 1:36 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
why r u saying bs
u dont know its 2 months
"Everything looks nicer when you win. The girls are prettier, the cigars taste better. The trees are greener."
by NJ Champ on Dec 22, 2011 1:37 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
He's having foot surgery, fracture means he broke a bone in his foot.
So thats sounds about right, see D James last year.
"Next year, with a full training camp, I think he can go after that Scott Skiles' record of 30." - Billy King
Stop it
We were all cheering the moves Billy has made. You can’t make judgements based on unforeseen circumstances like this (injury).
Agreed
But based on circumstances – leaving cap open for a possible Dwight deal. There wasn’t much Billy could do, if signed Nene or Chandler, it heeds his ability to make a D12 trade – which was the ultimate goal and he did what he had to do in order to leave that possibility open.
Deron and BK have lunch everyday
Deron knows the plan.
by djeterfan on Dec 22, 2011 1:37 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
Hurt in a preseason game
ultimate kick in the groin!
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by Angelo Mihalitsianos on Dec 22, 2011 1:35 PM EST reply actions
Yeah it sure is.
"Next year, with a full training camp, I think he can go after that Scott Skiles' record of 30." - Billy King
Well there goes the season if Brook loses much time.
"Next year, with a full training camp, I think he can go after that Scott Skiles' record of 30." - Billy King
oh no...
Andy Vasquez @andy_vasquez 2m Reply Retweet Favorite · Open
Billy King says Brook Lopez has a broken bone in his foot. Will have surgery tomorrow.
No Chandler, no Nene, no West
How long until Deron asks for a trade?
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"Your 2010-2011 New Jersey Nets - It Is What It Is"
The biggest slap in the face
Is that he was still out there in garbage time of a preseason game, after the injury occurred.
Knicks fan here
Sorry to hear about Lopez. He seemed poised for a great season. You guys deserve better than that. Hope he makes a quick recovery.
lopez out for months
Season over
by gmen4life24 on Dec 22, 2011 1:36 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Marc Stein
ESPNSteinLine Marc Stein
RT @Al_Iannazzone: Uh oh. #Nets center Brook Lopez broke a bone in his right foot. He’ll have surgery tomorrow (YIKES)
Great vibes going into the season guys! Hopefully it’s only like two – four weeks.
At Center for your 2012 Brooklyn Nets......
JOHAAAAAAAAAAAAAN FRENCHIE PETROOOOOOOOOO
there goes any trade for dwight howard as well!!!!!!!!!
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by Angelo Mihalitsianos on Dec 22, 2011 1:37 PM EST reply actions
how long is lopez out for?
METS JETS NETS LAKERS........... OFWGKTA....FREE EARL. Odd Future Records.
Adam Morrison got his team multiple championships barely trying, if that's not a great player...I don't know who is.
maybe
My lil man.....can't tell me god don't exist.
by killa kadafi191 on Dec 22, 2011 1:38 PM EST up reply actions
Bynum or Lopez
Lopez is never hurt…. oh, well. He shoots his free throws.
Its games like last night, when Bynum is the first scoring option, that make people think so highly of him. When healthy, the guy is studly.
"LeBron puts up great numbers, can't close w/o DWade. LeBricked 3 late 3s when shouldve been driving, getting to line. What else new?"
Yet casual basketball fans think he is a God, and would exhaust their entire squads to land him...
4-6 weeks according to a little googling
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by Angelo Mihalitsianos on Dec 22, 2011 1:40 PM EST reply actions
typical nets
Howard to l.a. … dwill to mavs… just hit the fast forward button…what a miserable franchise the nets are
by gmen4life24 on Dec 22, 2011 1:41 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Not just Gerald
we need Tebow, can Tebow play Center?
by danxcr on Dec 22, 2011 1:45 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
time to trade our Star
LOL…
Can we call NOH for Eric Gordon, Kaman’s expiring and Twolves 1st rounder?
Nets talked so much about following the Spurs blueprint
last time I checked…Spurs build teams with a bunch of good pieces and not by trying to land a second or 3rd star for Duncan.
Time to tank the season, get a good lotto pick in a stacked draft
As you know, you can’t trade an injured player and Brook will be out through the deadline. Try to sell d-will on re-signing with OKC and get westbrook and collison. Billy’s house of cards just came crashing down.
by William_H_HOLLA on Dec 22, 2011 1:50 PM EST reply actions
this is the same surgery that beubois had??? he was out like 5 months!!!
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by Angelo Mihalitsianos on Dec 22, 2011 2:00 PM EST reply actions
Why are you guys upset
it isnt like the Magic wanted Lopez anyway?
I would have taken Lopez out of any deal with the Magic anyway. They lost their chance to get lopez when they didnt accept the previous deal.
They would be lucky to get expiring and draft picks.
If Howard wants the lakers, he will go to the lakers. If he wants to be a net, there is nothing Otis can do. He could trade him to LA, but if Dwight wants to be in BROOKLYN he will come here.
Otis and the magic FO cant be that stupid
lose dwight for nothing and go to money wars over Lopez with one of the richest man in the world
The realist keepin it real amongst the surrealists
I was in Baghdad before these little B.G.'s was in they daddy-bags.
by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Dec 22, 2011 2:40 PM EST reply actions
its not stupid
dont say its stupid just because the nets would not get howard.. its a risk for the magic, $30m is large for howard to just leave, and even if he leave, they can sign brook lopez.. so if your the management, why not take a chance.
by letsgolal on Dec 22, 2011 3:03 PM EST via iPhone app reply actions
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