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Backcourt Big Strength...On Offense

Mike Mazzeo of ESPN New York is breaking down the Nets roster and starts from strength, the Nets backcourt which if only because of Deron Williams has to be counted among the best in the NBA, on offense. Mazzeo cites the amazing offensive abilities --and consistency-- of the five guards with guaranteed deals.

But he also suggests that the Nets backcourt is not what you would call an defensive juggernaut. Williams is "capable of playing tenacious defense when he wants to," he writes. Anthony Morrow "isn't a great defender by any means", Marshon Brooks "defense still leaves much to be desired" although he could improve. As for Jordan Farmar and Sundiata Gaines, Mazzeo is silent on their defense.

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I did notice Brooks seemed to improve defensively as the game went on. Seemed to calm down a bit, may have come out a bit overexcited

Fire Brian Schottenheimer.
http://www.facebook.com/pages/1000000-Jets-fans-against-Brian-Schottenheimer/104252133024352

by J-Kay on Dec 18, 2011 12:59 PM EST reply actions  

Thought the same

Also thought he looked upset/frustrated that teammates were no looking his way. Rook has to show more mental toughness but it was said that he looked better as the game went on.

by Zartan on Dec 18, 2011 1:03 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

saw the same thing

He just needs to get stronger and hit the weights to go through those screens

In Prokhorov & Billy King WE TRUST.

8 > 3
DH12 OR BUST!
Official Member of the "Travis OutLOL Society". 5 years, 35 Million Dollars worth of lulz.

by Claud on Dec 18, 2011 1:20 PM EST up reply actions  

Whats really scary about this team..

Is how far they clearly are from being real contenders. Even if we trade for Dwight, theres just too many holes everywhere else.

Not enough smart, veteran players. Not enough athleticism and toughness down low. (Besides Dwight)

Its a long road.

by cody1234 on Dec 18, 2011 1:01 PM EST reply actions   2 recs

I'm very confident that if the Nets pull off a Howard trade (as I expect)

Everything will take care of itself in time. Too smart of a coach and FO.

by TakeFive on Dec 18, 2011 1:05 PM EST up reply actions  

+1

If dude gets 1 regular season minute, my head will explode on the spot. I’d probably not watch another game unless we go on a crazy streak and are all the buzz.

This is a true understatement !!!

by Zartan on Dec 18, 2011 1:20 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

I disagree

If we get Dwight all we need is one stronf sf/or pf and we’ll be inthe top 5 in the east. Idk if it’s possible but this lineup to me looks like a solid/great team
DWILL
MORROW
W CHANDLER
?? A STRETCH 4 ( IT CAN BE A AVG PLAYER BECUASE DWIGHT TAKES CARE OF THE PAINT)
HOWARD

by brickznujerz on Dec 18, 2011 1:07 PM EST up reply actions  

yeah I forgot about that

still add hedo instead of chandler and add a solid stretch pf and were still looking good

by brickznujerz on Dec 18, 2011 1:11 PM EST up reply actions  

We look "good"

but will play bad

Dwight or Bust
Nets lose 33+ games this season.

by Shameer1016 on Dec 18, 2011 1:52 PM EST up reply actions  

I agree with this. Hypothetical roster after Dwight

Dwight, Shelden, Hedo, Morrow, Deron, Gaines, Shawne, James, Duhon, Brooks, JWill

That’s a pretty sad team even with Deron and Dwight.

You can add some guys later on, but how far will you really get with the mid-level? That’s what, 5 million?

by muwu on Dec 18, 2011 1:09 PM EST up reply actions  

I mean, you can still be a 50 win team with this

Buuut the Bulls are a way deeper team and the Heat can still topple you

by muwu on Dec 18, 2011 1:15 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

It’s not an instant fix, but it’s a major step forward toward getting where we need to be.

Fire Brian Schottenheimer.
http://www.facebook.com/pages/1000000-Jets-fans-against-Brian-Schottenheimer/104252133024352

by J-Kay on Dec 18, 2011 1:38 PM EST up reply actions  

Super Rec!!!

I’ve been trying to say this for the longest time! Thanks man

@ HowardBeckNYT
Deal done, source says. NBA is back.
-November 26th, 3:17 am.

by Andy. on Dec 18, 2011 1:18 PM EST up reply actions  

Scary about the team....

The net should sign aaron afflalo to be their new starting sg and have morrow and brooks off the bench. Afflalo give the nets the D they have lacked at sg since kerry kittles. He is avail though he is a rfa, he can still be signed. Very very good defensively and can hit the open shot.

by fmo on Dec 18, 2011 5:01 PM EST up reply actions  

Defense is definitely still gonna be an issue this year

Brook blocks shots, but his rotations still aren’t good at times. James still has his inexperienced moments, Brooks is likewise inexperienced. Morrow is just bad and everyone knows it. Shelden can rebound but isn’t some great defender by any means, Petro is a foul machine, Farmar isn’t really above average or anything (gives up a 17.5 PER to opposing PGs)

by muwu on Dec 18, 2011 1:04 PM EST reply actions  

It's cool

Like ordering something (online)you can’t wait for.

by Zartan on Dec 18, 2011 1:11 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

agreed with everything you said muwu

In Prokhorov & Billy King WE TRUST.

8 > 3
DH12 OR BUST!
Official Member of the "Travis OutLOL Society". 5 years, 35 Million Dollars worth of lulz.

by Claud on Dec 18, 2011 1:21 PM EST up reply actions  

Players would flock.

After a Dwight trade, team should look like,

Dwight, Putrid
Humph , jwilliams
Shwn.williams, Grimm
Brooks, Morrow
D.wiiliams , Gaines

by Zartan on Dec 18, 2011 1:08 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

We are not keeping Marshon Brooks if we get Dwight

"Success is peace of mind which is a direct result of self-satisfaction in knowing you did your best to become the best that you are capable of becoming." - John R. Wooden

by D Will to Succeed on Dec 18, 2011 1:31 PM EST up reply actions  

Naa, that trick is not going to work.

Lets hope at least Ammo stays because I can see Morrow & Brooks being shipped out.

- Looks at what Knicks shipped out for Anthony.

- Look at what Clippers shipped out for Paul.

"Success is peace of mind which is a direct result of self-satisfaction in knowing you did your best to become the best that you are capable of becoming." - John R. Wooden

by D Will to Succeed on Dec 18, 2011 1:50 PM EST up reply actions  

Orlando doesn't want Ammo

They have J-Rich, Q-Rich, and Reddick. I think they have enough salary going to shooters

by Murse Mike on Dec 18, 2011 2:27 PM EST up reply actions  

we shouldnt let brooks go

Tell the magics to take the deal we offer its the best there going to get

Putrid is that a cousin of outlaws??

by Pure baller15 on Dec 18, 2011 2:03 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

I feel like Morrow’s shot got even better. He could really be an offensive threat if he learned some in between moves, like a floater and a fadeaway.

by i says on Dec 18, 2011 1:13 PM EST reply actions  

agreed....

My faith right now in NJ FO has waned considerably!

by bbatts30 on Dec 18, 2011 1:30 PM EST via mobile up reply actions   1 recs

is that Jamal Magloire starting for the Raps? Sad

@ HowardBeckNYT
Deal done, source says. NBA is back.
-November 26th, 3:17 am.

by Andy. on Dec 18, 2011 1:14 PM EST reply actions  

In fairness, they’re just biding time until Valanciunas comes over

Fire Brian Schottenheimer.
http://www.facebook.com/pages/1000000-Jets-fans-against-Brian-Schottenheimer/104252133024352

by J-Kay on Dec 18, 2011 1:41 PM EST up reply actions  

Btw

Lopez put up good stats looking disinterested . When do or how did the magic do.

by Zartan on Dec 18, 2011 1:15 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

At least go for Przbilla... he would help us out more.

In Prokhorov & Billy King WE TRUST.

8 > 3
DH12 OR BUST!
Official Member of the "Travis OutLOL Society". 5 years, 35 Million Dollars worth of lulz.

by Claud on Dec 18, 2011 1:22 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

absolutely agree. Brings a much needed toughness

I am going to turn this team around 360 Degrees- Jason Kidd

by njnets on Dec 18, 2011 1:24 PM EST up reply actions  

Prz is considering retirement and said he wont decide until after the season starts. Don’t know if thats a matter of him waiting for offers or if he’s genuinely not sure if he wants to keep playing.

Fire Brian Schottenheimer.
http://www.facebook.com/pages/1000000-Jets-fans-against-Brian-Schottenheimer/104252133024352

by J-Kay on Dec 18, 2011 1:43 PM EST up reply actions  

in that case he could just be one of those, oh i’m going to play for a contender for 10 minutes and get a ring

by stenpoint on Dec 18, 2011 1:49 PM EST up reply actions  

agreed....

We sick so bad, my faith needs to be restored in Nets FO, until then I have no reason to be optimistic about this team.

by bbatts30 on Dec 18, 2011 1:33 PM EST via mobile up reply actions   1 recs

Okay I get that we are a bad team

but honestly lets look at this realistic. Does anyone believe that King doesn’t have a plan. This year is too important and he knows this. I am not saying Dwight is in the bag but if you have a chance to get a player like Dwight you take it.

Lets be honest signing hump to a 2 or 3 year deal isn’t going to keep Deron here. We either get Dwight or we lose. It’s that simple. Lets be honest a team of hump or nene isn’t going to be able to compete with the Knicks. The Nets would be the Clippers.

I know the team is bad but I’m glad there is a plan. I know the plan may not workout. Hell it’s very very likely it will back fire but at the same time don’t stress yourself out

My lil man.....can't tell me god don't exist.

by killa kadafi191 on Dec 18, 2011 1:33 PM EST reply actions  

it's all about preserving the cap space

We’re already right around the salary floor. Minimum signings for a big and a defensive SG but that’s probably going to be it while we’re waiting for Superman.

by stenpoint on Dec 18, 2011 1:36 PM EST up reply actions  

we have no concrete evidence that there is a plan....

Rod thorn had a plan about lebron and we all see how that turned out, we ended up with Outlaw. Now we ended up shelden Williams and Shawnee williams?!?!?! What kind of plan is that?!?!

by bbatts30 on Dec 18, 2011 1:37 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Shelden
SheldenWilliams Shelden Williams
I didn’t smell any smoke so I am going back to the room!!!
2 hours ago " SheldenWilliams Shelden Williams I didn’t smell any smoke so I am going back to the room!!! "
SheldenWilliams Shelden Williams
As soon as I said that a fire truck shows up so I guess I will walk down the stairs… What a start to this morning!!!
2 hours ago " SheldenWilliams Shelden Williams As soon as I said that a fire truck shows up so I guess I will walk down the stairs… What a start to this morning!!! "
SheldenWilliams Shelden Williams
I look out the window and just see one police car and one emergency car so I’m like can’t be too serious with no fire truck in sight!
2 hours ago " SheldenWilliams Shelden Williams I look out the window and just see one police car and one emergency car so I’m like can’t be too serious with no fire truck in sight! "
SheldenWilliams Shelden Williams
So I am awakened by a fire alarm in the hotel this morn and I call down like is this a fire drill or serious and they say its serious!!

by RandyOreens on Dec 18, 2011 1:37 PM EST reply actions  

Offense

Lopez should be screening for Dwill at half court to rub the defender and pull his defender out of the paint. Dwill can attack tthe basket, pass the ball when a defender rotates, flip the ball to lopez at the foul line or score for himself. There need to be more pick and roll plays and Morrow need the ball more. He needs 15 shots per game to keep the defense honest and off of Brook.
The Nets should be using the fullcourt press if they really want to take advatage of the teams strengths and pgs being in game shape. You can’t run if you don’t play D.

by DJ HeavyDuty on Dec 18, 2011 1:40 PM EST reply actions  

rec'd

Not to mention a pf

by bbatts30 on Dec 18, 2011 1:42 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

marshon to 3??

the kid weighs 150 pounds. I cant wait to see him gaurd LBJ

by brickznujerz on Dec 18, 2011 1:50 PM EST up reply actions  

whatever

Plan B: no dhow. Lopez plas the four. Swag at the five. Equals chip.

Jet Black Ninja

8 > 3

by NJNM on Dec 18, 2011 1:58 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions  

190 but who's checking

"We're not there yet, but we're going somewhere," Johnson said. "And we're going to Brooklyn. We're not going to contract. We're going to Brooklyn."

by Atronic on Dec 18, 2011 4:49 PM EST up reply actions  

Young is looking for a multi year deal starting at 9 mil. Obviously he wont get that, but still, pass regardless. The guy is awful, puts up empty stats and wont help a team win.

Fire Brian Schottenheimer.
http://www.facebook.com/pages/1000000-Jets-fans-against-Brian-Schottenheimer/104252133024352

by J-Kay on Dec 18, 2011 1:47 PM EST up reply actions  

another guy

who wouldn’t know how to defend if his life depended on it.

by shane gayle on Dec 18, 2011 3:02 PM EST up reply actions  

I wonder why... WHY???

Dwill and Brook do not Pick-N-Roll every possession. With DWills penetrating abilities and Brook’s soft touch, they can be Parker-Dunkan like for us.

by Belarus4life on Dec 18, 2011 1:55 PM EST reply actions  

CAN SOMEONE PLEASE POST

the dwills and dwight pic with both of them in nets jerseys? ive been lookin for it in a bunch of blogs and im having a hard time finding it :-(

by WuSwarM36 on Dec 18, 2011 1:59 PM EST reply actions  

There's still a need to sign a cheap, D-and-3 SG

Bogans, Stevenson, etc. They’re not very good but probably available for minimum in a limited role. At least to show Morrow and Marshon what defense looks like.

by stenpoint on Dec 18, 2011 2:28 PM EST reply actions   2 recs

get the best available 4

and affordable… Humph, REvans, Jason Smith or Ryan Hollins

Putting DJames at four is an eyesore.

Dwill-Morrow-Djames-Jsmith/Reggie/Hump-Lopez

Yatta-Brooks-Shawne-Hollins/Horner-Shelden

I'm an MJ FAN (Bulls)... turned into JKIDD FAN (Phoenix-Nets)...
NOW, I'm definitely a NETFAN - Go Deron Williams!

by NETFAN on Dec 18, 2011 2:46 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

oops didnt see that

I'm an MJ FAN (Bulls)... turned into JKIDD FAN (Phoenix-Nets)...
NOW, I'm definitely a NETFAN - Go Deron Williams!

by NETFAN on Dec 18, 2011 2:53 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

i wonder if Celts will trade KG

For picks and cash…

Will that affect our cap to trade for Dwight?

KG might just have 2 yrs left.

I'm an MJ FAN (Bulls)... turned into JKIDD FAN (Phoenix-Nets)...
NOW, I'm definitely a NETFAN - Go Deron Williams!

by NETFAN on Dec 18, 2011 3:10 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Who's the best defender in the league?

Dwight Howard. Also MarshOn will be decent defending, and Sundianta looks crazy on D.

by hajoth on Dec 18, 2011 4:58 PM EST reply actions  

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