Thoughts on Knicks-Nets Round 1 and the Opening Night Roster
Here are my thoughts on the game and each player individually. I know it's just a preseason game and not really indicative of what will happen in the regular season, but we've all missed Nets basketball and it's good to have something on-court to analyze.
As a team, the Nets were rusty. They missed lots of open looks and free throws that they would normally make, and that is obviously a product of the long offseason and short training camp. The turnovers and lack of timing were also a product of this. However, there were some bright spots.
Brook Lopez: Lopez's play today was VERY encouraging. He missed a bunch of shots that he normally makes, including free throws, but he was actively going after rebounds and he was a presence on defense with five (!!!) blocks. If he continues to play aggressively on offense and defense we will be just fine with or without Howard. One thing I can critique Lopez on is his positioning. I remember one play where he had great positioning, caught a pass and dunked easily. If he could get position like that more often and stop trying long, tough hook shots (which he can make, just not as often), he could be much more efficient.
Anthony Morrow: Morrow has shown that he can shoot from anywhere on the court. While he is somewhat one-dimensional, he is a great role player for this team.
Dennis Horner: Horner was not intimidated and had a couple of nice buckets, assists, and rebounds. He even had a huge block. I like his youth and athleticism and think he has a chance at the roster.
Marshon Brooks: Brooks played well, hitting a few smooth midrange jumpshots on his way to 10 points. However, he is still not there yet. His defense is far from great and his three point shooting and passing are average at best.
Brooks is not a finished product, and there's no guarantee he'll amount to anything. Thus, we all need to lower our expectations for Marshon. He is a late first round pick, not a #1 pick. He's not a can't miss prospect. And yet I've seen people who think Marshon is surely the next Kobe, a perennial all-star. People think we shouldn't trade Brooks for Dwight moisoing Howard. Point is, lower your expectations. It'll be a process, like it is for all rookies.
Guys who were decent, but not good:
Damion James: James has a limited offensive repertoire and doesn't possess great court vision. I have my doubts that he has the ability to score in double figures consistently, which is why we need to bring in Andrei Kirilenko on a one-year deal.
Shelden Williams: A solid veteran, Williams didn't play badly. But he lacks athleticism at this point and moves very slowly. I don't think he should play a big role on this team.
Deron Williams: Deron was off his game today. Missed open looks and turned the ball over a lot. But we all know Deron will be just fine. It didn't look like he was truly into the game today, understandable as the star player he is.
Guys who were wholly unimpressive:
Jordan Farmar: Farmar went through the motions today. I'm not convinced he is 4 million better than Sundiata Gaines, and he seems like an unneeded luxury. If we can get a pick or an asset for him I'd pull the trigger.
Sundiata Gaines: Gaines isn't great either, but he's dirt cheap and worth keeping on the roster.
Stephen Graham: Grahamvp is consistently terribly and should not be active opening night.
Johan Petro: It literally pains me to watch this man shoot jumpshots. Plus, he stole the ball away from one of his own teammates.
Ime Udoka: This guy is awful. He lacks any shooting touch and shouldn't be active unless as an emergency wing for veteran presence.
JamesOn Curry and Jerry Smith: Didn't really get an opportunity, although each was able to score.
So, to sum up, I think this was an encouraging game for the Nets. Lopez looked great out there, and he is our most important piece at this point for various reasons. Losing by 9 points to a sure playoff team when playing shorthanded is nothing to be ashamed of, and we should be optimistic moving forward.
Here is my opening night 12-man roster, assuming two free agent signings and no trades:
PG: Deron Williams, Jordan Farmar, Sundiata Gaines
SG: Anthony Morrow, Marshon Brooks
SF: Andrei Kirilenko, Shawne Williams, Damion James
PF: Kris Humphries, Shelden Williams
C: Brook Lopez, Johan Petro
What were your thoughts on the game and the roster?
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Both teams didnt look impressive.... glad the Nets hung around with the Knicks thou
we def need to get more athletic … your opening night roster is ideal at this point… we need a SF and PF….
brooks balled out,
he went 4-6 his 2 misses were from 3. his mid range game looked great. he can def score at will. it would b nice to c him play more aggressive and work on his DEFENSE. his defense was terrible i saw him get lost a ton of times on the court. other than that he is a solid player n the sky is the limit for him. i rather keep him n not ship him off to orlando.
he's a good young player
but he’s far from a given, and if he is the difference between getting dwight howard and not getting dwight howard, we trade him, no questions asked.
Adding Kirilenko and Humphries is a MUST. Unfortunately, it looks like Petro will be sticking around which is a damn shame because he sure sucks.
by mytoemytoe on Dec 17, 2011 9:46 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Too many scrubs
The roster right now has way too many guys who are marginal NBA players. I’m not even talking about the D-League guys—they are by definition marginal. Petro, Graham, Gaines, Shelden Williams, and Udoka would be hard-pressed to find NBA jobs if they were cut by the Nets. Farmar and Shawne Williams have their moments, Brooks and James have potential, but they are not good NBA players right now.
Let’s face it—the roster is weak. If we would still be able to hold on to Deron, we could just play this season for ping pong balls in a strong draft, but losing him would set us back significantly. Luckily we have another week to fix this so we can go undefeated. In the agbay, so to speak.
66-0
We should stop assuming we're getting Hump and AK
The front-office seem set on preserving cap space for a Dwight deal that could happen at any time, from now up until the trade deadline.
Maybe picking up Horner and another guy, cutting Graham and Udoka, could be the only moves we make while we wait for Superman.
this is awful
if we field a team without ak47 and hump, we’re gonna lose. a lot. and that won’t make deron happy, and dwight won’t be as excited to come here.
my opinions...
deron mighta missed some shots…but deron is deron…always nice…
morrow had a great game…they set up screens for him around the top of the key which was nice…he hit everything from there midrange…
lopez was nice. step quicker than last year. got rebounds and blocks. prob surprised opponents by his quickness. missed some ft. think he just needs more confidence and belief in himself. while he’ll never be as quick as other guys cuz he’s 7 ft, he can learn to adjust his game with his speed vs their speed. just use his length advantage instead (which he did on D a lot in the game) stuffed melo!!!
shelden williams played tough inside and added some inside presence…
gaines was solid backup pg and always play great defense
horner was surprisingly solid, but also felt like no one gave him respect, so he was able to show something…
marshon was great, showed his ability to shoot…think he needs some time to adjust to driving the ball in the nba, although he made great moves…ball just slipped outta his hands… on defense, he showed his ability to steal the ball…and defend…those long arms….always definitely got that swagger…intense and within himself
by TheTrueMANningIsELI on Dec 18, 2011 9:22 AM EST reply actions
guys i don't like
Petro was terrible. don’t know why he thinks he’s a guard and shoots 17 footers with his ugly form. he should get back to playing inside and being a BIG MAN. i saw him do some decent post moves and hook shots in denver before…don’t know what he’s thinking or what the coaches are doing.
he also messes up the offense by standing around on the perimeter, letting big men hover near the paint. play like A BIG MAN.
while i wanna say release petro…i think he can do better…his mentality and mindset is just all off. stop trying to be a guard. you’re not some kid…you’re an NBA player. play your position!!!
Graham.
just not feeling him. he annoys me. the good thing is i think he annoys everyone…opposing players too (but may our own players)
he just looks goofy and not smooth. weird motions dribbling and stuff.
seems to mess up flow of the offense too…makes weird decisions…
once he decides to go, he’ll just drive in and force a bad shot…
or if he shoots…he’ll miss…
or if he tries to dribble to set himself up for a shot…he’ll miss or waste time then pass out to someone.
can’t wait to see him gone…think udoka can do a better job in his spot as a savy bench vet…(even though he was missing in the past game)
Petro and Graham definitely mess up the flow of the offense when on the court…
Petro should just play like a Big Man
Udoka can play for Graham and just be the corner 3 guy. at least it spaces the floor.
by TheTrueMANningIsELI on Dec 18, 2011 9:28 AM EST up reply actions
Petro is awful. i’m convinced we can call up literally any big body from the d-league and he’d be better then petro.
He is dreadfully bad
Petro has no skill nor any basketball smarts.
How and why would the Nets keep him on the roster? Makes no sense at all.
He’smuch worse than Yinka Dare.
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by Real Big Devils Fan on Dec 19, 2011 11:58 AM EST up reply actions

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