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James To Start...While Nets Wait

Shawne Williams was in camp Friday and the Nets continue their recruiting of Andrei Kirilenko, but on Saturday afternoon, the starting small forward for the Nets will be 24-year-old second year player, Damion James and he's not giving it up easily.

"To be honest, I came into camp expecting to be the starting three,'' James said. "Because last year, I was starting before I broke my foot; my first game back off my broken foot I started. So I expected that spot to be mine, man."

Shawne Williams was shooting around but his availability for Saturday is still up in the air. Although the Nets are both privately and publicly recruiting Kirilenko (as well as Kris Humphries), there's nothing new to report.

Fred Kerber reports there's been "little movement" on the Kirilenko front. The big competition for AK-47, it appears, is not the Kings, but CSKA Moscow, Mikhail Prokhorov's old team. Kirilenko signed a three-year deal with an "NBA" out in the summer and moved his wife and family to Moscow, much as Deron Williams did to Istanbul.

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Who will be the starting PF?

by Chris3035 on Dec 16, 2011 2:29 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

Shelden

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by GMJigga on Dec 16, 2011 2:30 PM EST up reply actions  

True….id like to see Shawne get time at the 4 as well

by Chris3035 on Dec 16, 2011 2:32 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Worst Case...For Opening Day

Dwill/Farmar/Gaines
Morrow/Brooks/Udoka
DJames/Shawne/Horner
Humphries/Kirilenko/Jordan
Lopez/Shelden/Petro

But, you can’t rule out a trade.

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by Andy. on Dec 16, 2011 2:30 PM EST reply actions  

Worsr case is Humphries and AK sign elsewhere….

Also, AK would be starting over James with Shawne as the bench 4

by Chris3035 on Dec 16, 2011 2:31 PM EST via mobile up reply actions   2 recs

you’re probably right.

But I think at this point of his career, Kirilenko is best off the bench because he is injury prone.

Kirilenko would create match-up problems if he plays the 4, IMO.

@ HowardBeckNYT
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-November 26th, 3:17 am.

by Andy. on Dec 16, 2011 2:33 PM EST up reply actions  

If AK and Hump go somewhere else

that’s the best case scenario. It means BK is closing in on Dwight. I honestly don’t think BK would let them go, and leave the team THIS short, no matter how much cap space he’s trying to reserve, without getting Dwight here NOW.

RIP baby. I love you forever. Our dream of seeing D12 with the Nets is getting closer.

by lupojohn3 on Dec 16, 2011 2:36 PM EST up reply actions  

spoken like a real man

if you want it, take it from me.

Good

by MrDollarBills on Dec 16, 2011 3:03 PM EST up reply actions  

AK might not be a bad 4 with james at the 3 considering his rebounding toughness

but the bigger question is can either of them stay healthy in this 66 game season….

It seems like we will have a logjam at forward if we sign both AK and Humphries so if we do get AK i wouldn’t be surprised if Reggie Evans ends up being the other pickup barring a trade or late night amnesty…..

by boogeewon on Dec 16, 2011 3:06 PM EST up reply actions  

Well James has only one year in the league

and is only 24. So lets hope last year with his foot etc. was just freak injury’s and he can be healthy this year.

"Next year, with a full training camp, I think he can go after that Scott Skiles' record of 30." - Billy King

by shea23 on Dec 17, 2011 8:45 AM EST up reply actions  

I think Nets should bring back

Troy Murphy he was a double-double machine before coming to NJ, what happend to him?

"I think I’m the best point guard in the league. No reason. I just think I’m the best.’’-Deron Williams.

by JJ25 on Dec 16, 2011 2:32 PM EST reply actions  

I don’t think he and Avery got along very well, so I would guess there is no chance he comes back here.

by Enigmah5 on Dec 16, 2011 2:33 PM EST up reply actions  

Avery (and we) hated his defense

by mytoemytoe on Dec 16, 2011 2:35 PM EST up reply actions  

ugh

please no. the guy was absolutely dreadful in pretty much every millisecond of basketball he played last season.

by shane gayle on Dec 16, 2011 2:51 PM EST up reply actions  

You have to understand the systems in which Troy was a part of before he moved on… systems that not only encouraged chuckers, but demanded them! Run down court and jack up 3’s!

"LeBron puts up great numbers, can't close w/o DWade. LeBricked 3 late 3s when shouldve been driving, getting to line. What else new?"

Yet casual basketball fans think he is a God, and would exhaust their entire squads to land him...

by Tim823 on Dec 16, 2011 3:12 PM EST up reply actions  

no way

to that sad-faced individual

"A little boy went out to play. When he opened his door, he saw the world. As he passed through the doorway, he caused a reflection. Evil was born. Evil was born, and followed the boy."

by jrtallent on Dec 16, 2011 3:40 PM EST up reply actions  

not for me

Anthony Morrow can’t hit a shot for his life, Brook has that sweet 20 footer, deron is beast put turnover prone. Damion James has a nice PU game.

"I think I’m the best point guard in the league. No reason. I just think I’m the best.’’-Deron Williams.

by JJ25 on Dec 16, 2011 2:36 PM EST up reply actions  

Has there been any news about Humphries at all?

or is he just overrated and unwanted?

Dwight or Bust
Nets lose 33+ games this season.

by Shameer1016 on Dec 16, 2011 2:34 PM EST reply actions  

I’m guessing he probably wants a multi-year deal and they are only offering 1.

by mytoemytoe on Dec 16, 2011 2:36 PM EST up reply actions  

Good News about Hump

LOL!!!!

Only way there will be good news about Hump is if he signs a ONE YEAR DEAL.

After that IMO there is no such thing as Good News with Hump. He is damaged goods.

by SIC One on Dec 16, 2011 2:36 PM EST up reply actions  

Damn, I'm feeling sorry the dude now

10-10-1 and not even a rumored offer. Maybe he’s looking for a starting job AND good salary. You got to think he’s playing with a chip on his shoulder now.

Dwight or Bust
Nets lose 33+ games this season.

by Shameer1016 on Dec 16, 2011 2:44 PM EST up reply actions  

What's the holdup?

Give Hump a front loaded 3 year deal and let’s go!

He’ll be needed off the bench even if they get Dwight Howard (long shot)

"I define passion as extreme emotion."

When you have to shoot, shoot don't talk.

by universal on Dec 16, 2011 4:03 PM EST up reply actions  

True. Front load both Hump and AK - give them both 10 mil a piece this year

and the next two years, 6 mil a piece. 22 mil over 3 years, nothing to sneeze at. Depth this year and future, also trade pieces with reasonable cap #, if needed.

by bkfire on Dec 16, 2011 6:31 PM EST up reply actions  

Carl Landry is the best PF available, but it's not what the Nets need SMH.

"I think I’m the best point guard in the league. No reason. I just think I’m the best.’’-Deron Williams.

by JJ25 on Dec 16, 2011 2:37 PM EST reply actions  

He's off the market.

He resigned w/ NO

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by hulyan on Dec 16, 2011 2:39 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Hump?

Yes? No?

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by netsareboss on Dec 16, 2011 2:38 PM EST reply actions  

YES!!

We are going to get torched manana.

Dwight or Bust
Nets lose 33+ games this season.

by Shameer1016 on Dec 16, 2011 2:40 PM EST up reply actions  

NO

Reggie Evans, Darious Songaila, Jason Smith or trade Farmar.

"I think I’m the best point guard in the league. No reason. I just think I’m the best.’’-Deron Williams.

by JJ25 on Dec 16, 2011 2:40 PM EST up reply actions  

our best bet is to trade Farmar

PG come and go.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0A7BrvQtTSs

My Crossover goes something like that so I can play starting PG and Deron will be my backup.

"I think I’m the best point guard in the league. No reason. I just think I’m the best.’’-Deron Williams.

by JJ25 on Dec 16, 2011 2:43 PM EST up reply actions  

Jason Smith

He was good with sixers before, and showed hope while in NO.

I'm an MJ FAN (Bulls)... turned into JKIDD FAN (Phoenix-Nets)...
NOW, I'm definitely a NETFAN - Go Deron Williams!

by NETFAN on Dec 16, 2011 2:56 PM EST up reply actions  

Why not?

That dude played his heart out for us every time he stepped on the court. He was more than adequate at the 4 spot for us last season.

by Genesis336 on Dec 16, 2011 2:42 PM EST up reply actions   2 recs

I'd venture to say he was GOOD!

I’d take the Hump back, why not??

by Kmart6nets on Dec 16, 2011 2:43 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

And there it is
NYDNInterNets Last night spoke with the new Nets PA announcer, Brooklyn resident David Diamante, who is pumped up about his debut tomorrow.

Section 18, Row 7 at The Rock!
"Your 2010-2011 New Jersey Nets - It Is What It Is"

by eLonepb on Dec 16, 2011 2:45 PM EST reply actions   2 recs

Haha was just about to post it.. phew! I hate double posts

by mytoemytoe on Dec 16, 2011 2:45 PM EST up reply actions  

This is it

Section 18, Row 7 at The Rock!
"Your 2010-2011 New Jersey Nets - It Is What It Is"

by eLonepb on Dec 16, 2011 2:46 PM EST up reply actions  

haha beat you to it!

by mytoemytoe on Dec 16, 2011 2:46 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Was it a race?

Section 18, Row 7 at The Rock!
"Your 2010-2011 New Jersey Nets - It Is What It Is"

by eLonepb on Dec 16, 2011 2:48 PM EST up reply actions  

Nah, haha. I felt compelled to post the picture once I saw his ridiculous dreads+smile combo, I’m sure you did too

by mytoemytoe on Dec 16, 2011 2:49 PM EST up reply actions  

White dude with dreads?

Dwight or Bust
Nets lose 33+ games this season.

by Shameer1016 on Dec 16, 2011 2:59 PM EST up reply actions  

Hey Shameer, how does one get that “Follow me on twitter” tag in their sig?

by Coach Joe on Dec 16, 2011 3:33 PM EST up reply actions  

I think I figured out how to do it. This is my test run. I don’t have any followers yet.

by Coach Joe on Dec 16, 2011 3:39 PM EST up reply actions  

I followed you man lol

and sorry I couldn’t reply a lot sooner, but was at work. And Moiso you Netsareboss lol I’m increasing daily lol I was at 10 yesterday

Dwight or Bust
Nets lose 33+ games this season.

by Shameer1016 on Dec 16, 2011 8:25 PM EST up reply actions  

That’s seriously him? Wow.

by Coach Joe on Dec 16, 2011 3:32 PM EST up reply actions  

I wonder how Jaydee feels about all of this lol

"We're not there yet, but we're going somewhere," Johnson said. "And we're going to Brooklyn. We're not going to contract. We're going to Brooklyn."

by Atronic on Dec 16, 2011 2:45 PM EST reply actions  

It seems like the D12 is going through March. I really though it will happen before 1/1, but that was misunderstood.

Someone mentioned that the 1/1 will not lose D12 the 5th year, rather the percentage increases. Any truth/source for that!?!?

by d2d on Dec 16, 2011 2:46 PM EST reply actions  

Naw, he loses neither

Whatever team he is on 3/15, he is eligible to sign the 5/109M max deal

the 1/1 deadline is only for extensions….Dwight will be opting out and signing a new deal entirely. Net Income has posted on this a few times in the comments of articles.

by Dep on Dec 16, 2011 3:37 PM EST up reply actions  

Don't sleep on D-James

He never got a fair shot last year with all the injuries and everybody is freaking out about how we don’t have a 3 (myself included). I’m looking forward to him getting a chance. He has the right attitude, he’s tough, plays D, and showed some scoring ability before last season in the summer leagues.

by PariseLikeSundayMornin on Dec 16, 2011 2:47 PM EST reply actions  

I don’t think anyone’s sleeping on James, problem is we just haven’t seen enough of him to know what he is yet and whether he can score in the NBA.

by mytoemytoe on Dec 16, 2011 2:48 PM EST up reply actions  

Pretty cool though for David Diamante

He’ll be able to be the PA announcer for a lot of Barclay’s events I’m sure, especially Golden Boy boxing matches.

Section 18, Row 7 at The Rock!
"Your 2010-2011 New Jersey Nets - It Is What It Is"

by eLonepb on Dec 16, 2011 2:52 PM EST reply actions  

When I said "Hump? Yes? No?"

i meant that are we going to get him or not? I want him back personally, at the right price

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by netsareboss on Dec 16, 2011 2:52 PM EST reply actions  

It may be benificial for him to accept a bloated one year deal

more so than AK mainly due to the fact that he has to prove his off court issues are behind him…. With the Kings looking to give AK a multiyear deal at big money we may be on the outside looking in……

by boogeewon on Dec 16, 2011 2:55 PM EST up reply actions  

A lot of people, they don’t know my name, but they’ll say, “Oh yeah, the guy with the dreads.” I think whatever people can attach to you and identify with you, they do. My hair’s a spiritual thing for me. I don’t know from day to day if I’ll cut them, if I won’t cut them. It’s been 22 years at this point. I just take it day by day.

by mytoemytoe on Dec 16, 2011 2:53 PM EST reply actions  

while i understand what is going on here.....

do you guys think we havent signed anyone at the 3 and 4 cause BK thinks theres still a shot at DH now, or do you think he is aiming for the trading deadline and doesnt wanna fill up any of that capspace……if we are waiting for the trading deadline, playing with this roster and a maybe a fringe player added would be walking down a slippery slope

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by Angelo Mihalitsianos on Dec 16, 2011 2:53 PM EST reply actions  

Negotiating with AK and Hump

Working on putting together trades to make the team better, but still flexible.

And probably giving a couple calls a day down to Orlando.

Section 18, Row 7 at The Rock!
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by eLonepb on Dec 16, 2011 2:54 PM EST up reply actions  

Nah. Maybe.

Amnesty deadline is at midnight but today’s been pretty quiet.

by Ccrules2791 on Dec 16, 2011 2:57 PM EST up reply actions  

There are a few people I would like to get if

AK and Hump dont want one year deals.

1) A. Jameson – Start him or have him come of the bench for Offense. But his expiring can help us down the road.
2) Go all out and get Josh Smith – Dwight’s buddy – as long as it doesnt hurt us to trade or sign Howard
3) Diaw – not my first choice but in the right system he can be an all around player that fits Bk’s mantra and is an expiring contract.

by SIC One on Dec 16, 2011 3:01 PM EST up reply actions  

Dont think its goign to happen

These are all quality players who will not come cheaply. Cavs will want young talent and picks for jameson. There is no way we get Josh Smith unless we offer Brook. With Diaw you have Jordan who isnt looking to take on any contract and is looking forward to Diaw coming off the books so we would have to entice him with someone with a larger expiring contract

by bettacalltyrone on Dec 16, 2011 3:08 PM EST up reply actions  

not that i want diaw

but if Jordan is looking to get him off the books, Nets can pretty much take him for nothing since they have the cap space to absorb his contract. Bobcats would get a TPE.

by domininaldo1981 on Dec 16, 2011 3:12 PM EST up reply actions  

I dont want diaw either

Dont get me wrong i think he is a good player but i dont think he fits into our team.

by bettacalltyrone on Dec 16, 2011 3:26 PM EST up reply actions  

I like that they’ve hired a classy voice for the Barclay’s Center- now can we please get an assurance that the games won’t be pumped full of bad pop and hip hop like all the other awful arenas in the NBA?

I want to be able to go to an arena and have the fans providing the background noise, not a digital organ over speakers or a Chris Brown song while my team is bringing the ball up the court.

by mytoemytoe on Dec 16, 2011 2:58 PM EST reply actions  

And please God, no burritos or, as I remember it back in 1997, cold White Castle cheeseburgers (shudder)

by mytoemytoe on Dec 16, 2011 2:58 PM EST up reply actions  

Why a one year deal makes sense for HUMP

The dude may want a multi-year deal, but he was in the NBA for five years produced nada. Yes, he was behind KG and Dirk, but his numbers and reputation was awful. One good year does not rate a multi-year deal. But if he can replicate what he did last year with us, then he has a shot at a great contract, with us or elsewhere. And he gets the Kardashian stink off of him. We can pay him $8-9mm, which is more than he will get a multi-year deal to start at. So if he produces, it is a win-win. We keep our cap space and he gets the multi-year deal he wants next year somewhere else.

by samnetsfan2010 on Dec 16, 2011 2:58 PM EST reply actions  

agreed

if last year was the product of a contract year, then, well, he’d be in a contract year again, so he can put up big numbers again!

by sheepareevil on Dec 16, 2011 3:33 PM EST up reply actions  

This site is kinda awesome

S/O to NI & ND

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by YoungMoney24 on Dec 16, 2011 2:58 PM EST reply actions  

"kinda" lol

"I think I’m the best point guard in the league. No reason. I just think I’m the best.’’-Deron Williams.

by JJ25 on Dec 16, 2011 3:00 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

only kinda

cuz you post here

OH BURN!!!!!!!!!!!

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Adam Morrison got his team multiple championships barely trying, if that's not a great player...I don't know who is.

by YoungMoney24 on Dec 16, 2011 3:15 PM EST up reply actions  

So who else has interest in Hump?

I still don’t understand the logic to trying to sign up to a large 1 year contract.

Nets can sign him for less, by offering 5 years (Start at 5 million with 7.5% increases).
He couldn’t do better by getting 4 years from another team.

If ORL was to trade for Lopez, surely they would want Hump too, for long term.

Makes no sense to me, because I don’t see Howard being a Free Agent this summer, as long as he threatens not to sign an extension (or player option) with any other team.

He either will be traded in the coming few weeks or after the All Star game.

by jerry25 on Dec 16, 2011 2:59 PM EST reply actions  

AK may be a different story because he might not be as ideal for a rebuilding team as is Hump, besides the injury history,

Would AK agree to 10 million for 1 year, knowing that he might get traded before the deadline or he would have to negotiate a new deal at the end of the season? He could get a full MLE of 20 million for 4 years elsewhere, which may not be as attractive, as long as he expects to be healthy for a few more years.

If Nets paid him 21 million over 3 years, I think he might agree, but his contract would be harder to move to clear cap space.
I would think his contract could be swapped with Turk?

by jerry25 on Dec 16, 2011 3:04 PM EST up reply actions  

The the Presidental Candidate and Most Interesting Man in the World on the phone.

He would have signed with Sac. already if he didn’t prefer the Nets organization.
He might not ever see Brooklyn though, if he only gets a 1 year contract.

by jerry25 on Dec 16, 2011 3:15 PM EST up reply actions  

correction: Get The President …. on the phone

by jerry25 on Dec 16, 2011 3:16 PM EST up reply actions  

I been thru every Nets preseason since they joined the NBA...

and this year I’m as pumped as ever…

Of course I use Viagra now… but still…

LETS GO NETS !!!

by M I K E on Dec 16, 2011 3:01 PM EST reply actions   2 recs

If your contract lasts longer than 5 years and 35 million dollars, contact your doctor immediately- you might have the crabs.

by mytoemytoe on Dec 16, 2011 3:03 PM EST up reply actions   2 recs

errr

Section 18, Row 7 at The Rock!
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by eLonepb on Dec 16, 2011 3:05 PM EST up reply actions   2 recs

That's a good question because no teams have been reported as being interested in Humphries....

I’d be surprised if the Nets get both him and AK considering we are in prime position for a trade and amnesty isn’t done till midnight…..

by boogeewon on Dec 16, 2011 3:02 PM EST reply actions  

teams aren't trying to deal

with the circus that will come with Hump

by MrDollarBills on Dec 16, 2011 3:09 PM EST up reply actions  

We are a circus

bring him here. He fits right in!

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by netsareboss on Dec 16, 2011 3:09 PM EST up reply actions   2 recs

We don't

Petro and Sheldon will do just fine

Dwight or Bust
Nets lose 33+ games this season.

by Shameer1016 on Dec 16, 2011 3:18 PM EST up reply actions  

Right.. someone get Humphries on the phone right now and give him whatever he wants.

by mytoemytoe on Dec 16, 2011 3:19 PM EST up reply actions  

That's such a cruel thing to say

but he can use proactive. lol

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by JJ25 on Dec 16, 2011 3:05 PM EST up reply actions  

Damion James is definitely being proactive.

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Deal done, source says. NBA is back.
-November 26th, 3:17 am.

by Andy. on Dec 16, 2011 3:07 PM EST up reply actions  

he already broke his foot last season.

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-November 26th, 3:17 am.

by Andy. on Dec 16, 2011 3:10 PM EST up reply actions  

Damion James is gonna blow up this year..

Ah that doesn’t sound good, either :(

by mytoemytoe on Dec 16, 2011 3:10 PM EST reply actions  

Lakers' Master Plan courtesy of B. Simmons??

Along those same lines: Since they know the Rockets are hot for Gasol, why wouldn’t they tinker with that same Rockets package from last week’s vetoed three-teamer (Luis Scola, Kevin Martin, Goran Dragic and a 2012 o. 1 pick), see if they can dump Walton’s contract in the deal (and maybe take back Hasheem Thabeet’s expiring deal), then see if they can flip Martin to Milwaukee (for Stephen Jackson and a draft pick), Denver (in a sign-and-trade for Arron Afflalo) or Phoenix (for Jared Dudley, Mickael Pietrus’ expiring deal and a future pick)? If their ultimate play is Dwight Howard, wouldn’t it make more sense to deal Gasol for multiple pieces, then make a run at Howard with Bynum plus some of those pieces? Let’s say they made that Houston deal (Gasol for Scola, Martin, Dragic and a 2012 no. 1 pick), then quickly flipped Bynum, Martin, Dragic, their 2012 no. 1 pick and Houston’s no. 1 pick for Howard and J.J. Redick (and kept Scola for themselves). Now you’re looking at Howard, Scola (such an underrated offensive player), Metta World Peace, Kobe and Fisher as starters, with McRoberts, Blake and Redick off the bench. That’s a pretty good outcome, right?

by SCALABRINGIT on Dec 16, 2011 3:11 PM EST reply actions  

Dwight has to say NO to LA

otherwise I’m very fearful we are not getting him

I love the optimists on here, but i dont see our package closing the deal now, and if they want him later…its trouble for us

by Dep on Dec 16, 2011 3:13 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm pretty sure...

That they (Houston) aren’t going to just do Gasol for Martin, Dragic, Scola and 2012 no 1 pick….they’d have to be getting some guys back too…and wouldn’t Orlando demand Scola too?

Don’t see that working out..

by davidnets on Dec 16, 2011 3:15 PM EST up reply actions  

ya - I agree Orlando would want Scola

that part is dumb by Simmons

But I think the overall premise may be right, if we lose Dwight…its going to be in this manner IMO

Houston has hard-on for Gasol

by Dep on Dec 16, 2011 3:17 PM EST up reply actions  

If Brook lights it up this season, ORL will take our deal.

If not, DH goes to LAL as a rental and joins us in the summer.

In Brook I trust

by John at the Jersey Shore on Dec 16, 2011 4:09 PM EST up reply actions  

Rockets wanted that trade because they wanted to sign Nene.

They wanted Paul and Nene.

@ HowardBeckNYT
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-November 26th, 3:17 am.

by Andy. on Dec 16, 2011 3:13 PM EST up reply actions  

Pau*

@ HowardBeckNYT
Deal done, source says. NBA is back.
-November 26th, 3:17 am.

by Andy. on Dec 16, 2011 3:14 PM EST up reply actions  

I think he’s a great writer.. sure he’s biased but he’s a lot of fun to read.

Why do you think he’s such an idiot?

by mytoemytoe on Dec 16, 2011 3:15 PM EST up reply actions  

It’s really not that different from the current proposed Lopez trade. A few 1st rounders that will never amount to anything, an up and coming center, Martin and Dragic.

by mytoemytoe on Dec 16, 2011 3:27 PM EST up reply actions  

So unless you are saying Billy King is stupid..

by mytoemytoe on Dec 16, 2011 3:27 PM EST up reply actions  

The only thing I’ll say is that Simmons doesn’t realize that we have Houston’s lottery protected pick.. so they wouldn’t be able to offer that

by mytoemytoe on Dec 16, 2011 3:28 PM EST up reply actions  

He has no good reason for thinking Simmons is an idiot.

I’ve tried to engage him in this conversation before and nothing productive came of it.

He’s just a hater. It is what it is.

by Dopeness on Dec 16, 2011 3:44 PM EST up reply actions  

But, but, but- I thought we were the haters.

by mytoemytoe on Dec 16, 2011 3:46 PM EST up reply actions  

sooo Bynum and Kevin Martin for Howard

and Redick? And they keep Scola too?

They think 5 late picks, or Gerald Wallace and a pick, is nothing but 2 late picks are worth talking about?

Nice. For the Lakers.

by stenpoint on Dec 16, 2011 3:16 PM EST up reply actions  

Exactly

Once again the media just cant accept that CP3 went to the Clippers and Howard wants to go to the Nets.

SMH!!! That is ok. I like when the media underestimates US.

by SIC One on Dec 16, 2011 3:22 PM EST up reply actions  

Only thing that is missing here

Is that Magic want to move Turkoglu as well. Lakers cant absorb him. And if Rockets are ask to absorb him (which i doubt that they would) they would not be willing to give up so much for Gasol at that point

by bettacalltyrone on Dec 16, 2011 3:29 PM EST up reply actions  

Do we not own Houston's Pick

So how are they able to trade future picks before we pick up the pick owed to us?

by N.Ireland Nets Fan on Dec 16, 2011 3:55 PM EST up reply actions  

I would rather have James then AK… From all I have seen of him last season, he was great. Great D AND he could run and score.

"LeBron puts up great numbers, can't close w/o DWade. LeBricked 3 late 3s when shouldve been driving, getting to line. What else new?"

Yet casual basketball fans think he is a God, and would exhaust their entire squads to land him...

by Tim823 on Dec 16, 2011 3:12 PM EST reply actions  

Hold on guys...

James has played in 25 games in his NBA career…

Lets see a bit more of him first.

by M I K E on Dec 16, 2011 3:17 PM EST up reply actions  

25 very well played impressive games.

"LeBron puts up great numbers, can't close w/o DWade. LeBricked 3 late 3s when shouldve been driving, getting to line. What else new?"

Yet casual basketball fans think he is a God, and would exhaust their entire squads to land him...

by Tim823 on Dec 16, 2011 10:45 PM EST up reply actions  

We're already around the salary floor

What if they don’t really want to get anybody else and just want to keep the cap space open.

by stenpoint on Dec 16, 2011 3:17 PM EST reply actions  

exactly just like Billy King said "Flexibility"

it makes no sense to go flush to the cap when another good player may become available in the next week so yeah Hump or AK will get the big one year deal but not both….

the other expiring contract will come via trade…..

by boogeewon on Dec 16, 2011 3:22 PM EST up reply actions  

How many games can this team win as is? in a 66 game schedule

with some weeks of 3 straight games?

Dwight or Bust
Nets lose 33+ games this season.

by Shameer1016 on Dec 16, 2011 3:25 PM EST up reply actions  

if we stay healthy and considering the depth we have and will add to

I’d say it’s not too far fetched to say we can go about 500…

by boogeewon on Dec 16, 2011 3:30 PM EST up reply actions  

There are 44 games

from start to the March 15 trade deadline.

The question is can we endure that long with a team only meant to meet the salary floor.

By preserving cap space yeah it could mean not even getting Hump or AK, just minimum guys to round out the roster. Crazy, scary thought but that’s what preserving most of the remaining 19 million cap space would mean.

by stenpoint on Dec 16, 2011 3:56 PM EST up reply actions  

Predicting we get Howard at the deadline with THIS current team as of 8:25pm Friday 12/16/11

Playing until then, I’m afraid to post a guess.

Dwight or Bust
Nets lose 33+ games this season.

by Shameer1016 on Dec 16, 2011 8:28 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm pretty sure the nets front office promised Shawne Williams a good amount of PT along with the obvious larger contract so

with that said the main signing that will be done is clearly Humphries unless AK chooses to take a lesser deal with us compared to what the Kings are offering….

If DJ stays healthy I wouldn’t be surprised if he does have a 12ppg 7rpg type of season…..

by boogeewon on Dec 16, 2011 3:19 PM EST reply actions   2 recs

100% agree with every thing you said.

by mytoemytoe on Dec 16, 2011 3:21 PM EST up reply actions  

Which is is a pretty radical accomplishment, good job boogeewon!

by mytoemytoe on Dec 16, 2011 3:22 PM EST up reply actions  

same

I think that he can easily average that.

by MrDollarBills on Dec 16, 2011 3:21 PM EST up reply actions  

I agree with this
If DJ stays healthy I wouldn’t be surprised if he does have a 12ppg 7rpg type of season…..

If we can play decent defense and get stats like

Dwill – 18pt 10 ast
Brooks -10pts 4rb
DJ – 12pts 6rbs
Lopez – 20 pt 7rbs
ShaWil – 10 pts 5 rbs
Morrow -10 pts

You see where I am going with this.

by SIC One on Dec 16, 2011 3:29 PM EST up reply actions  

I think we're gonna see Morrow average about 15 pts with DWill finding him outside.

What the nets should have done is hire Reggie to teach him how to move with out the ball – tire our his defender, create lanes for his PG.

by bkfire on Dec 16, 2011 7:00 PM EST up reply actions  

Lopez scoring numbers will be up more

better shape, new moves, killer jump shot….there is no reasoning for him to not score more point on this team.

Dwight or Bust
Nets lose 33+ games this season.

by Shameer1016 on Dec 16, 2011 8:29 PM EST up reply actions  

We are pretty thin and weak up front right now...

Brooks
Petro
Shelden
J. Williams

Am I missing anybody ?

No way we are making the playoffs with that front line….

by M I K E on Dec 16, 2011 3:31 PM EST reply actions  

If we can only get one...AK or Hump

I think we may need Hump more unless AK can play alot of minutes up front.

If we can get only one…which one do we get ?

by M I K E on Dec 16, 2011 3:41 PM EST up reply actions  

Hump

need that tough inside force

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by netsareboss on Dec 16, 2011 3:42 PM EST up reply actions  

I agree...

AK will get banged up playing up front. He would probably miss alot of games playing PF for us.

by M I K E on Dec 16, 2011 3:44 PM EST up reply actions  

who can hang with our backcourt?

Dwill Morrow farmar Brooks Gaines
Speed, shooting, passing and play making

by DJ HeavyDuty on Dec 16, 2011 3:46 PM EST up reply actions  

Question about the new CBA:

How does the new stretch exception work?

One of the key points in the Howard trade saga is that the Magic are going to want some team to take Turkoglu back. Why can’t the Magic use the stretch on Turkoglu and pay him less money over more seasons, instead of accepting a worse deal for Howard?

by mytoemytoe on Dec 16, 2011 3:31 PM EST reply actions  

What is up with all this

“What is going on with HUMP?” Talk

Hump and his AGENT doesnt want a ONE YEAR DEAL.

That is what is going on.

by SIC One on Dec 16, 2011 3:31 PM EST reply actions  

I would like Hump back

but Hump needs to get off his high horse. All other teams are set at PF, especially starting PF. No one’s going to pay him starter money like he may be seeking. IMO, after this weekend, Hump will realize that the only place he’s going to get a chance to play a prove himself again, is the Nets. Take it or leave it buddy.

by domininaldo1981 on Dec 16, 2011 3:35 PM EST reply actions  

What stat line would you guys expect from Humphries over a full season?

by mytoemytoe on Dec 16, 2011 3:37 PM EST reply actions  

LMAO

"I think I’m the best point guard in the league. No reason. I just think I’m the best.’’-Deron Williams.

by JJ25 on Dec 16, 2011 3:46 PM EST up reply actions  

I want some NBA action bad and we have some 2night.

U won’t believe the crap I’ve been watchin this whole time.
Beavis and Butthead
Real World San Diego
Alan Gregory
New 2 and a Half Men (weak)
Just to name a few. After this weekend I’m canceling my HBO and Cinemax till summer time.

by Freezy82 on Dec 16, 2011 3:48 PM EST reply actions  

nothing happened today...

Dwight or bust....
Superbowl or bust...

by D-Will2Nets on Dec 16, 2011 3:49 PM EST reply actions  

It’s too quiet around my house.. Billy King must be outside plotting some amazing trade.

by mytoemytoe on Dec 16, 2011 3:50 PM EST reply actions  

Which Net is everybody’s favorite PRE-Jason Kidd?

Mine was Sam Cassell (I’m also a Sam). The Houston Rockets were my first favorite basketball team and when Sam I Am came to the Nets it just cemented by love of the team, even though I’m from Westchester.

by mytoemytoe on Dec 16, 2011 3:56 PM EST reply actions  

Kenny is probably my earliest memory of any Nets player. Did Chris Childs come before or after him?

by mytoemytoe on Dec 16, 2011 4:02 PM EST up reply actions  

Those were the days.. I remember seeing the Nets beat Jordan and the Bulls, not during the 72-10 season but the season afterwards. I’ll never forget that game because it seemed like the most impossible thing in the world.

The Nets had pretty much sealed the game, 99-95, and the crowd was going crazy. With only a few seconds left, Jordan knew he’d lost. So what did he do? He dribbled down court and drained a 3- even when he lost he did so in an intimidating way.

by mytoemytoe on Dec 16, 2011 4:13 PM EST up reply actions  

I might have to go with Kenny Anderson.

by Coach Joe on Dec 16, 2011 4:01 PM EST up reply actions  

Armen Gilliam

I actually registered on this website the day that I found out the Arm N’ Hammer passed so that I could “pay my respects”.

Too bad that it takes 24 hours for the account to activate.

by Rudibager on Dec 16, 2011 7:14 PM EST up reply actions  

Been a fan so long

since ‘76-77 so there are many. Super John, Bernard, Buck, Birdsong, Dawkins, Sugar Ray, Drazen, Mookie, Kittles, KVH but probably if I had to choose one, it’s Buck. Guy was a workhorse and while it was a sad day that he got traded to Portland (on my birthday no less) but glad he had a chance for a title.

Favorite Nets team was ‘83-84 even moreso than the Kidd led teams…Buck at PF, Albert King at SF, Dawkins at C, Birdsong at SG and Micheal Ray at the point (stil my favorite Nets PG, even more than Kidd), guys like G-Man and O’Koren off the bench…very solid and fun to watch (even though back then, could only watch road games on WOR but use to listen to the games on WNBC radio…predecessor to WFAN). Those early 90’s team had a lot of promise but it was the only time I felt a bit embarrassed by the team as DC, Anderson and Morris weren’t that likeable

by tweep on Dec 16, 2011 8:31 PM EST up reply actions  

I might be going to tomorrows game...

Lets give MarShon a warm welcome even if he doesn’t play that well.

A Knicks friend of mine wants to take me, he’s paying. He’s pumped about his Knicks team and wants to rub it in.

So if you see a guy with a Nets cap on beating the heck out of a big white goofy Knick fan…don’t worry…he probably had it coming.

LETS GO NETS…

by M I K E on Dec 16, 2011 3:59 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

old news

but not a joke

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by netsareboss on Dec 16, 2011 4:05 PM EST up reply actions  

Not a joke but also not something they seriously expect Humphries to consider. It’s just a publicity stunt

by mytoemytoe on Dec 16, 2011 4:06 PM EST up reply actions  

yeah probably

or Hump plays hockey and the team is dumb enough to think he’ll quit basketball for them

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by netsareboss on Dec 16, 2011 4:12 PM EST up reply actions  

Simmons article is outrageous...

…he’s so funny, but so biased and SO wrong about sports. He makes much better points about movies.

Can someone clear this up for me:

If a team (LAL) trades a good player (gasol) right now, for a bunch of mediocre player (k-mart, scola), how soon can that team trade those mediocre players?

I really don’t think you can just trade for a player and “flip” them immediately.

Am I wrong?

by KiddShizzle on Dec 16, 2011 4:14 PM EST reply actions  

If it’s part of a 3 way trade you could..

by mytoemytoe on Dec 16, 2011 4:15 PM EST up reply actions  

yes

but what if its a two-team deal?

how soon before you can trade them again?

by KiddShizzle on Dec 16, 2011 4:19 PM EST up reply actions  

As you said, you have to wait quite a bit (I’m not sure how long) before you can flip ‘em.. probably till’ around the trade deadline

by mytoemytoe on Dec 16, 2011 4:23 PM EST up reply actions  

So confusing

Why are people acting like Shawne Williams is going to be our starting 3 or that he only played “a little four” for the Knicks? I would love to see the stats or talk to Knick fans but I’m almost positive Williams played the majority of his minutes at the 4 or 5. He’s no post player but he doesn’t have the handles or speed to the play the 3. He’s big enough to play the 4 and 5 and he stretches the floor at those spots like few big men can.

I’d love to see him play alongside Brook, Deron and Morrow. So much shooting, the floors going to be incredibly spread out.

by mikegrand15 on Dec 16, 2011 7:52 PM EST reply actions  

I like James but if we dont get someone

We might be the place that dwill will end up with

by jarkid on Dec 16, 2011 8:44 PM EST reply actions  

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