Nets In Lot Better, If Not Best, Shape
by Net Income on Dec 16, 2011 8:17 AM EST
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PrintAs the Nets try to balance filling out their roster with planning for a future that could include Dwight Howard, one thing seems certain: this is a lot better team than the organization started out with last season. Billy King is still trying to sign Andrei Kirilenko and Kris Humphries to reasonable and likely one-year deals, but so far, so good, despite big disappointments.
As Avery Johnson says, "it's a process."
The big difference is that the Nets have one of the NBA's top ten players in Deron Williams and by all accounts, he's happy to be here. Brook Lopez didn't spend this summer in bed recovering from mononucleosis, as he did last year and will benefit from playing with at least one Williams.
Last year, the team had one of the NBA's top three-point shooting wingmen to spread the floor in Anthony Morrow. This year, he's back and he's joined by another of the league's best deep shooters, Shawne Williams. Add Kirilenko and the Nets have a third legitimate deep shooter.
With Kirilenko, you would have the Russian version of the Swiss Army Knife, the last NBA player to have an extremely rare "5 x 5" game: at least five points, rebounds, assists, steals and blocks (he's done it three times). Add Humphries and you again have one of the top rebounders in the East and a guy who at this point last year was projected as the team's fourth power forward behind Troy Murphy, Derrick Favors and Joe Smith. In case you've forgotten, Smith actually began the season as the Nets starter at PF.
Versatility, in fact, has become the Nets buzz word, with the team pushing the notion that many of the roster pieces can be switched around the board.
There's no albatross contract like there was last year with Travis Outlaw, no injured big contract player like Troy Murphy. The bench is a bit deeper and no team has as many of its players in mid-season shape. D-Will, Jordan Farmar and Sundiata Gaines have played 47 games already. Add Kirilenko and you add 20 more, and before he went down for a bit, it's arguable that the two best players in Europe this season were him and Deron Williams. While the Nets had a rookie with great potential last season in Favors, this year's rookie is more of a finished product. In fact, if there is an X-factor on the Nets this season, it's MarShon Brooks, who the coaches, we are told, love.
"We feel our roster today is still better than what we started with last year, it’s not a championship roster yet but we’ve made strides," Johnson continued. "Our priorities are to continue to improve. Everybody would like to make the playoffs. I don’t want to get used to having that meeting with players the day after the regular season and everybody cleaning out their lockers. I like to be game-planning for a playoff opponent."
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im excited! cant wait for tomorrow!
i want to see the team, i want to see marshon!!
by tugabk on Dec 16, 2011 7:54 AM EST reply actions 7 recs
I set the DVR
to record 60 extra minutes in case of an overtime epic
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by jrtallent on Dec 16, 2011 10:31 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
so excited
I know it’s just a pre-season game and our roster isn’t complete, but it’s been 8 months since we’ve seen Nets basketball, that is WAY too long
by sheepareevil on Dec 16, 2011 12:16 PM EST up reply actions
and i think we will make the play-offs!
we can do it!
LETS GO NETS!
by tugabk on Dec 16, 2011 7:56 AM EST reply actions 2 recs
They coached J-Will right into dehydration
Hopefully he learned his lesson and next time he’ll come to camp in shape.
J-Will won't get out of Springfield this year
I predict
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by Taylor Made on Dec 16, 2011 9:19 AM EST up reply actions 3 recs
unrec
Maybe if we had a real pf and some depth at the position. Hopefully he’ll get himself into shape and provide some quality minutes.
Shelden Williams is garbage.
Your hoping for a lot there
next season if might be more realistic.
Dwight or Bust
Nets lose 33+ games this season.
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The kid as does so many, had potential .
Frank destroyed Williams mentally. Williams looked scared to play with Frank yelling at him cause he was scared of everyone else.
by Zartan on Dec 16, 2011 10:48 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
I don't think we're talking about the same Williams
Jordan Williams never played for Frank
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by Taylor Made on Dec 16, 2011 10:50 AM EST up reply actions
Lol
Jason Williams was out of shape as well.
by Zartan on Dec 16, 2011 10:55 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Deron Williams was never coached by Frank!
But man Jayson Williams sure could rebound. Buck Williams too. Not so much Shawne Williams. But maybe Terrence Williams can come through with a big rebound in his career. Jay Williams got a shot but his knee was too messed up. Sean Williams was a bit of a headcase too, but quite the athlete. Marcus Williams just never cared enough. Wonder if Shelden Williams can be our moose?
Too bad he'll likely be headed to ORL at this rate...
I’m kinda hoping that DWill puts his foot down on that.
Jet Black Ninja
8 > 3
Well, NJNM
If we make the trade by the end of the month, he can stay.
RIP baby. I love you forever. Our dream of seeing D12 with the Nets is getting closer.
Don't see why
Dude should not be a starter. He’s a great shooter with little else. Bench is a perfect spot for him.
by Zartan on Dec 16, 2011 10:57 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
A new thread!
My day has started! See you again in 5 minutes. Every 5 minutes. Go Nets!
In Brook I trust
by John at the Jersey Shore on Dec 16, 2011 8:02 AM EST via iPhone app reply actions 2 recs
Not sure if this is a playoff roster tugabk, but I at least look forward to seeing Brook, Deron, and Marshon play
March will be here sooner than later.
If the Nets sign Hump and AK47, I think it's a 7-8 seed
There will be nights this team will suffer. But I still can’t get the Nets beating Boston out of my head. There’s potential to surprise.
by ZR on Dec 16, 2011 8:47 AM EST up reply actions
At least
I think they only get one of the 2, and even still I think that is enough for the playoffs.
by Jack Handy Jr on Dec 16, 2011 8:54 AM EST up reply actions
We did not have Brooks or healthy Brooks
I hope im not a homer this year. I don’t think this is a finished product but I like what I see, problem with this is too many times I’ve thought the same and Nets come out lame.
by Zartan on Dec 16, 2011 10:53 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
I think it's a 3-4 seed if
we sign Hump and get Dwight.
RIP baby. I love you forever. Our dream of seeing D12 with the Nets is getting closer.
Wow MrDollarbills
New that you said you came around on MarShon but seem like your all in.
I like , think you will too.
by Zartan on Dec 16, 2011 11:00 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Man AK47 was CRUSHING the Euroleague:`
14 points, 9 rebounds, 3.5 Assists, 3 blocks. Only 5 games but woww
next one is 21st
there ya go, schedule posted
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it funny how perspective works
Looking forward to life with Dwight and then seeing where we are is disappointing. But look back to where we were at the start of last season and we are way, way better off. I guess some said it at the time and it is still true, once you hit rock bottom it can only get better.
In Brook I trust
by John at the Jersey Shore on Dec 16, 2011 8:12 AM EST via iPhone app reply actions
And it takes time
For a team that has won 36 games the last two seasons, we have a lot of promise. I know some Nets fans have lost patience with the Dwightmare, but that really just shows how close we are to pulling a Celtic’s style turnaround, which was pretty unprecedented when it occurred.
Also, I like that this team has not been built through major free agent signings. Dwill was acquired by massing assets. If we get Dwight it will be because of how we developed Lopez. MarShon looks like a very solid piece who was also drafted by this organization. To me, the way our new and old front offices constructed this team is something to be really proud about, Dwight or no Dwight.
by BrooklynNets on Dec 16, 2011 10:08 AM EST up reply actions
Season to Believe?
Like this article said, what’s great about this team is it’s depth and versatility…
there are so many different lineups that the Nets will be able to roll out there, especially if they can sign both AK and Hump to 1 year deals…if they do that, they have an array of players that can do a lot of things…pass, rebound, block shots, defend, 3 pt. shooters etc…good blend…
Is it a finished product or even a championship team? No. But in a shortened season, who knows?
Remember when Kidd was first traded, no one even expected that team to accomplish what they did. Now DWill is healthy and will have a full year (well, 66 games in this full year), who knows?
And let’s not forget about Brook. He is still one of the great young big men in the game. He is a heck of a shooter. He reportedly worked Hakeem. If his rebounding improves this year, like it did at the end of last year, he’s going to be even better. If he can be a better passer, that will do wonders to the team. Brook probably even has a chip on his shoulder. Let’s hope there is a beast somewhere in him, and hope that he unleashes it.
Maybe I’m naive and overly optomistic like I am at the beginning of the year, every year, for all my favorite teams. But I believe this team is playoff team, can give other team fits with the different looks (like I said, if they sign AK and Hump to 1 year deals) and due to this shortened, whacky season, anything can happen.
Let’s Go Nets!
by mills16 on Dec 16, 2011 8:16 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
Love it
Maybe I’m naive and overly optomistic like I am at the beginning of the year, every year, for all my favorite teams. But I believe this team is playoff team, can give other team fits with the different looks (like I said, if they sign AK and Hump to 1 year deals) and due to this shortened, whacky season, anything can happen.
Let’s Go Nets!
That kind of irrationality is what makes great sports fans. I always feel the same way: I remember being a kid and telling my dad that the Mets were going to be great this year, every year. Of course they sucked and he knew they would, but it was always so great to be excited by a new season.
I agree that this team will be underrated. I think Lopez can improve, except on passing where I doubt he will ever develop. Anyway, the great thing is there will be basketball to watch and see what happens.
Lets Go Nets!
by BrooklynNets on Dec 16, 2011 10:12 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
The thing is, you never know!
You may think your team will suck, but you just think that. It may even be very likely. But you don’t know.
Championship or bust!
In Brook I trust
by John at the Jersey Shore on Dec 16, 2011 10:26 AM EST up reply actions
man i really hope brooks never gets included in any trades we do for dwight
The guy hasn’t even played a game yet and his maturity and work ethic has made him a fan favorite
by brickznujerz on Dec 16, 2011 8:17 AM EST via mobile reply actions
"if not best shape"
I think he means game shape, stamina and conditioning.
In Brook I trust
by John at the Jersey Shore on Dec 16, 2011 8:23 AM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
CRIS HUMP WANT MORE MONEY!!!!
he’s currently getting around 28G an episode but want 50….and may sue if not…
Was just planning on posting something like this.
Guys we have a year of Deron Williams and Book Lopez to look forward to. Compared to last year we have something to be excitedabout. A full year with best point guard in the league imo, will be a lot better then what we’ve gone through the last two years.
"Next year, with a full training camp, I think he can go after that Scott Skiles' record of 30." - Billy King
its gonna suck when marshon does well
and the magic want him in the next configuration of the howard trade
any rumors?
are we adding anyone to the roster?
anything leak out last night?
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by Angelo Mihalitsianos on Dec 16, 2011 8:25 AM EST reply actions
Thank you NI for all the hardwork you do in keeping me well informed about the ups and downs of our Nets..
by clarbar on Dec 16, 2011 8:26 AM EST via mobile reply actions 4 recs
This site has been SPECTACULAR
I’ve practically lived on here for the entire year.
by nynjlawyer on Dec 16, 2011 8:32 AM EST via mobile up reply actions 12 recs
When a thread about the Nets signing Ime Uboka reaches almost 1000 comments...
You know we have a problem.
It doesn't matter who we sign
All the comments in the threads is basically gonna be about 1 person until he gets here.
RIP baby. I love you forever. Our dream of seeing D12 with the Nets is getting closer.
Another change ....
No more Marco G! No more Sez. Tomorrow we will finally found out the Nets best kept secret — the new “voice” And entertainer of the team. Hope they sound good!
by nynjlawyer on Dec 16, 2011 8:27 AM EST via mobile reply actions 1 recs
looking forward to that
hopefully its a better product than the squad we will have on the floor for the time being.
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by D Will to Succeed on Dec 16, 2011 8:38 AM EST up reply actions
This team need to hide Marshon
Limit his playing time for the first year like we did with RJ awhile back.
i agree
Only because the season will be so crammed together and he will hit the wall early if he plays too much
by DJ HeavyDuty on Dec 16, 2011 8:36 AM EST up reply actions
Agree with this.
Don’t play him that much so that they won’t ask for him in a trade. He could be a SG if he pans out.
by jasperjarrod on Dec 16, 2011 8:40 AM EST up reply actions
NOO!
we need every asset we can get to beat the lakers in howard trade talks!
excuse my bad english please
Don't forget how Brook finished last season!
37.8 mpg
Last 5 game averages:
.582 FG%
.814 FT%
5.4 Reb
1.8 Ast
0.6 Blk
0.4 Stl
2.4 PF
2.2 TO
29.8 point per game!
In Brook I trust
by John at the Jersey Shore on Dec 16, 2011 8:33 AM EST reply actions
brook knows they're trying to get rid of him
i wouldn’t expect much out of him
I think the opposite
He will rise up and prove the doubters wrong.
In Brook I trust
by John at the Jersey Shore on Dec 16, 2011 8:38 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Don’t forget how T-will played at the end of 2010! That is, crazy good! No one plays hard in the final week of the season
by mytoemytoe on Dec 16, 2011 9:21 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
And those games were without D-Will also
by JimmyLips on Dec 16, 2011 9:31 AM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
And he couldn't even lift one of his arms!
by BrooklynNets on Dec 16, 2011 10:15 AM EST up reply actions
(FYI this is from an old article about how Ryan Anderson was peeved Brook Lopez went to see Mickey Mouse rather than him when the Nets were in Orlando).
by BrooklynNets on Dec 16, 2011 10:21 AM EST up reply actions
woohooo
it would be great to get hump and AK on 1 yr deals
Dwill Farmar
Ammo Brooks
AK SWill
Hump JWill
Lopez Petro
That’s good enough for the 6th seed. Maybe NYK v NJ in the playoffs?
Chi
MIA
NY
Bos
Orl
NJ
ATL
MIL
I think Indy will be the FOUR seed.
They are perfectly put together for this kind of shortened season.
whoa thats too high
I don’t see DCollinson as a pg that can lead a team to a great record
by DJ HeavyDuty on Dec 16, 2011 9:35 AM EST up reply actions
Indiana is gonna surprise people
I think Indiana will be the 5th seed.
1 Chicago (Hamilton addresses their only need)
2 Miami (Signed a backup swingman in Battier instead of a starting PG or C?)
3 Celtics (You can’t count them out cuz they know it’s their last chance with this group)
4 Knicks (Chandler was a pretty dumb move. They would have been better off signing Dalembert for the midlevel, kept Chauncey and saved the amnesty for Amare in a year or two. Now they have no quality guards and no depth)
5 Indiana (like, Chicago, addressed their most pressing need and will have a lot of continuity)
6 Atlanta (No real changes other than letting Crawford go)
7 Orlando (Relatively the same team as last year but the drama is gonna get to them)
8 NJ (DWill and Lopez are the better than any two players on the rest of the teams)
9-12 Milwaukee, Philly, Washington
13-15 Charlotte, Toronto, Cleveland
Critical Success!
Depends on the year Milwaukee has
But I think that is pretty accurate. I have my doubts on the Bulls, especially with this tight schedule. They are too reliant on Rose and Boozer is a year older and slower. How Noah plays will have a big impact as well. RIP signing was perfect for them though.
by BrooklynNets on Dec 16, 2011 10:25 AM EST up reply actions
Atlanta is going to have a bad year
Book it.
Last year’s playoffs exposed them. The only reason they beat Orlando was because Orlando only had one player.
by Anthony Perez on Dec 16, 2011 11:32 AM EST up reply actions
If we get a 6 seed
I could definitely see a first round matchup with the knicks…how great would that be
Right now I see the East as
1. Miami
2. Chicago
3. Boston
4. Indiana
5. Atlanta
6. Orlando
7. New York
8. ??
BTW… NY is not going to be as good as people think.
They have no depth and Amare will struggle in the condensed season, as may Chandler who is fragile.
by Jack Handy Jr on Dec 16, 2011 8:57 AM EST up reply actions
back to back to
OH MY BACK
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by jrtallent on Dec 16, 2011 10:37 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Pacers are NOT a 4 seed
They dont have an alpha dog on their team. They are like Philly and will be hard pressed to get a 6 seed
1. Miami
2. Chi
3. Atl – Might raises eyebrows but they are young, athletic. should handle grind well
4. Bos – should be the 3 seed but will lose games to injury
5. NY- Chandler is going to be in alot of foul trouble w/ Bibby guy getting to the lane
6. NJ – Paul won 47 games last year w a team worse then ours. DWill is a better PG then Paul
7. Orl – This team is going to be distracted until Dwight is traded. S/B 3 seed
8. Ind – A bunch of soldiers but no general.
9. Phil – Did nothing to address size problem. its only been 1 year but E Turner is a bust
by DWILL-of-the-GODZ on Dec 16, 2011 9:20 AM EST up reply actions
Switch ATL with the Knicks
and Nets with the Pacers…..if roster were to stay the same.
Dwight or Bust
Nets lose 33+ games this season.
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I hate every aspect of this Knicks since day 1
but they have finally built a solid team, and they have my pick to win the division if there front court stays healthy.
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Knicks arent that good
Melo and Stat didnt mesh well last year if you remember.
Melo is a Iso player and stops the ball on offense.
Stat is a pick and roll PF. Without a good PG Stat isnt nearly as effective.
Chandler has done well with Paul and Kidd throwing him lobs and keeping him involved on offense. Knick dont have that player on the team.
Chandler is a good defensive player but Melo, Stat and Bibby are all below average defenders. If you watch any Nets games, you know defense starts on the perimeter. Chandler is going to get pulled away from the paint to help and that will take him out of position for rebounds and put him in foul trouble.
Outside of their big 3 this team is putrid. D Rose, D Will, Rondo, Wall, Kemba, B Jennings are all PGs in the East that will feast on Bibby and Douglas. If Chandler gets into foul trouble they have no one to replace him unless you think Jefferies is a center.
They arent a bad team but they have alot of issues
by DWILL-of-the-GODZ on Dec 16, 2011 9:41 AM EST up reply actions
Just watch them this season.
They will adjust, Tyson was a GREAT signing, and ALL great scorer’s stop ball movement. How successful the Knicks will be depends on Melo ability to run the offense.
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D' Antoni's system revolves around PG play
their backcourt is neck and neck with Miami for worst in the league
Bibby was washed up 3 years ago
Fields was a nice story early in the year but tailed off alot at the end of the season. He is a backup on most teams.
Douglas is an Eddie house type of PG. Better served as instant offense off the bench. He will be exposed with more minutes
Shumpert will be a good defender but he cant facilitate.
This is a PG league and they dont have an NBA starting PG on this team
by DWILL-of-the-GODZ on Dec 16, 2011 10:02 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
not like Melo and Amare
are gonna let the point guard tough the ball anyway though ;-)
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by dmitchell624 on Dec 16, 2011 10:05 AM EST up reply actions
My point exactly
best situation for that team is Kobe-Gasol relationship on offense for Mel0-Amare
Dwight or Bust
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by Shameer1016 on Dec 16, 2011 11:35 AM EST up reply actions
Agree
Plus the condensed season will hurt Amare and expose their lack of depth. They at times will look like a great team, others not so much. They are a 2nd round team at best.
by Jack Handy Jr on Dec 16, 2011 10:32 AM EST up reply actions
That Chandler signing was nice on paper
But in reality, it’s going to be a mess. With $40 million tied to two forwards, it was a bad idea to drop another $15 million on the frontline while having NO backcourt.
When you have $40 million tied up on the frontline, you don’t spend the majority of your remaining cap space on an offensively limited Center while leaving yourself with little flexibility to get a floor general.
by Anthony Perez on Dec 16, 2011 11:38 AM EST up reply actions
Pacers have depth and return all their key players
And added West and Hill. Indy will be good.
by Jack Handy Jr on Dec 16, 2011 10:31 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Who knows what West is, he had a serious knee injury late in the season
Hibbert
Hansborough
Granger
George
Collison
Hill
I dont see the love fest for this team
by DWILL-of-the-GODZ on Dec 16, 2011 11:07 AM EST up reply actions
Neither do I
They have a nice, young perimeter core, but their front court isn’t anything spectacular.
They played the Bulls well
have depth and are returned their starting 5 + West + Hill
by Jack Handy Jr on Dec 16, 2011 11:09 AM EST up reply actions
im with you D-will
this team only won 30 something games last year, and it felt like they overachieved
by watchoutBLo on Dec 16, 2011 11:59 AM EST up reply actions
Knicks are not a 3 seed
when I first saw the TyChan signing, I automatically jumped the gun a believed he was a major difference maker and that team will be come awesome.
But now that Free Agency is winding down and Knicks still in need of some serious depth, and the fact that TyChan had a serious backup in Haywood last season, and also the fact that JKidd had a lot to do with maximizing Chandler’s skillset, I’m not so sure I put the Knicks up so high on that list.
And as NI pointed out yesterday
He’s already talking about sitting out games because of his back. The season hasn’t even started, not one game has been played, and his back is already a concern?
Only 4 years and $80M left on that uninsured contract!
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I thought that was weird too
He’s already talking about sitting out. You barely just started practicing!!
WHY is everyone thinking Atlanta is going to be good?
They’re gonna suck. Book it. 8th seed at best. They lost Crawford, they’re incredibly undisciplined, and they showed how awful they were in they playoffs last year where they only reason they advanced was because they played Dwight Howard (not the Orlando Magic, only Dwight showed up in that series).
by Anthony Perez on Dec 16, 2011 11:35 AM EST up reply actions
Hope you're right
Then they may blow it up & look to dump Josh Smith.
nets should pick up j smoove
that would put us in the top …3 seed book it
They Wont Suck
They still have a good core with Horford, Smith, and Johnson.
Teague will improve and they will have Hinrich for a full year.
They will miss Crawford instant offense off the bench so i think they will step down a notch but this is still a playoff team at around the 5th seed
by bettacalltyrone on Dec 16, 2011 2:43 PM EST up reply actions
Something interesting I just read re:Outlaw's Amnesty
The salary of any player waived via the amnesty clause will continue to count toward the salary floor. This could be of major interest to a team such as the Wizards, who would fall so far under the salary floor (about $49 million per team)
As in we may have $18m in cap space left (40m in salary), but we are almost near the salary floor with Outlaw’s $7m counting towards the floor… $47m, while the floor is close to $50m.
Important because I think we need to leave as much cap space open, since that will be our biggest asset, or rather what separates us from others in a trade for Dwight.
Salary floor
Yeah I was just thinking about this. Actually the salary floor next season is 80% (not 85% as previously reported) of the $58m salary cap, therefore around $46m.
As Outlaw doesn’t count against the salary cap but still counts toward the floor, and after the Shelden and Shawne signings, we both still have around $19m cap space and at the same time already right around the salary floor of $46m.
So, if the aim is to preserve cap space as much as possible (meaning just meet the salary floor) we can stop spending right now except for minimum deals to meet the 13-player requirement. That would be the recourse if the plan is only to just wait out on March 15th.
But, as the front-office are reportedly pursuing both Hump and AK, the Nets seem determined to still put a relatively competitive team out there. Yet to make a Dwight trade work, we’ll have to ship out those players we just signed — if Orlando would be agreeable to that.
stenpoint
You can’t trade players you signed right now for 60 or 90 days(not sure which one) if you make a trade for Dwight now. May not be an issue since we haven’t signed either one yet.
RIP baby. I love you forever. Our dream of seeing D12 with the Nets is getting closer.
can't believe
Rashard survived amnesty
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He must be worth $21 Million in the eyes of the Wizards
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He gets that money regardless
If they’re not going to use it in free agency, what’s the point of amnestying him? Might as well let him suit up & give you something for the money.
You could probably sit by the 3 point line and do what Lewis does
but you wouldn’t be making no $21 Million lol
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by Shameer1016 on Dec 16, 2011 11:36 AM EST up reply actions
But he still gets that money even if he's home on the couch
So where’s their incentive to amnesty him?
A. the wizards dont have 45 million to shell out like that
B. the wizards would be so far under the cap they would end up having to spend close to an additional 20 million in annual salary to reach the league minimum payroll
C. he leaves a huge hole on the roster. who would you play over him? Jordan Crawford, Josh Howard, Al Thornton?
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by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Dec 16, 2011 11:29 AM EST up reply actions
Watch,
the Kings will bid for him…
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by caseycheesecake on Dec 16, 2011 12:47 PM EST up reply actions
I just moved to d.c so I wont be there tomm but I hope we dont get more knicks fans there the Nets.
i seen tickets for 10 bucks so everyone should try to make the game
you live in dc?
I just moved to the area as well. No nets fan around lol. U going to opening night? I am, haven’t bought my Tix yet though
by adisodes on Dec 16, 2011 9:23 AM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
i really like d.c and there's def no nets fans here but i was suprised when i went to the nets vs wizards game last year we had a good amount on nets fans.
im going back up to jersey for christmas so ill def be there for opening night!!
by brickznujerz on Dec 16, 2011 9:59 AM EST up reply actions
Give me Ian Eagle!
More excited to hear him announce games than to see the team play! lol…
But I think Kirilenko would do well here playing both the 3-4 spots… I would give him a 2 year deal. Sign Humphries for 1 year on a small contract and hopefully we can make some noise during the regular season.
I really want to see Brook come out strong and start putting up serious double doubles every night. We need him to convince the Magic ownership that he is a solid and realiable player that can really help your team win.
Hopefully Portland will still be down to ship Wallace out later in the season too. I still think a trade of Lopez/Wallace/Farmar/1 rounder would be better for the Magic rather than a Gasol/Bynum trade.
"Losing is the same as winning, only with fewer points." - Keith Van Horn (90s Nike commercial)
by macgyver893 on Dec 16, 2011 8:38 AM EST reply actions 2 recs
I wonder what kind of shape Hump is in
He’s had a lot of distractions and I’m just wondering how hard he’s been able to work over the summer.
If we can sign him to a decent deal and he averages 10 & 10 by the trade deadline, he’s becomes great trade bait.
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"Your 2010-2011 New Jersey Nets - It Is What It Is"
Yup
If anything him and/or AK could flourish this year playing for the Nets and ask for even more next year when a TON of team have cap space, and most the good FA’s are restricted. There will be some massive overpays next summer.
by Jack Handy Jr on Dec 16, 2011 8:41 AM EST up reply actions
Supposedly he went back to Minn and has been working out in his hometown gym
Like he always has. Should be in the same shape as ever. I hope so.
In Brook I trust
by John at the Jersey Shore on Dec 16, 2011 8:43 AM EST up reply actions
The iPhone SBN app does suck.
Using the browser in my laptop, I can see 27 of 27 messages, while the phone sees 24/27 messages and there’s no way to refresh or anything to see the missing messages. Annoying since this is my LIFE were talking about here!
In Brook I trust
by John at the Jersey Shore on Dec 16, 2011 8:41 AM EST reply actions
So just use safari
In non mobile mode.
Section 18, Row 7 at The Rock!
"Your 2010-2011 New Jersey Nets - It Is What It Is"
Is there a Z-key function in the browser on the iPhone?
That the only reason I use the SBN app.
In Brook I trust
by John at the Jersey Shore on Dec 16, 2011 8:48 AM EST up reply actions
That app is terrible...
Can you even get on? It crashes for me every time I try to open it up. It COULD be great. But it’s awful.
Some people called that a playoff team
smh
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twill wasnt bad
just had attitude problem……he was nice athletic kid…would go perfect with deron
by devinharris34 on Dec 16, 2011 8:55 AM EST up reply actions
Imagine if he had half a brain...
That kid’s loaded with talent.
even though they had cruddy attitudes
i would have loved to see t-will, lee, and cd-r playing with d-will instead of outlaw, graham, and ross
The realist keepin it real amongst the surrealists
I was in Baghdad before these little B.G.'s was in they daddy-bags.
by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Dec 16, 2011 11:32 AM EST up reply actions
Ha! Good one:
from http://espn.go.com/nba/player/_/id/3448/brook-lopez
It’s been reported that Dwight Howard has officially asked to be traded to the Nets, with Lopez a key piece to a deal that would also land New Jersey forward Hedo Turkoglu, according to The Star Ledger.
Spin: Should the trade go through, Lopez will find himself in a more desirable offensive situation in Orlando, as he’ll have a competent point guard in Jameer Nelson while the majority of the offense likely to go through him. More on this story as it develops.
A competent point guard? WTF!
In Brook I trust
by John at the Jersey Shore on Dec 16, 2011 8:50 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
D3r0n iZ duH sUx0rz
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it's so obvious
D-Will has NO IDEA what he’s doing out there
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Hopefully Avery doesn't try to turn Shawne Williams
Into Josh Howard like he tried to with OutLOL. Outlaw would have been just fine at Shawne Williams pricetag and role.
by sour grapes on Dec 16, 2011 8:54 AM EST via mobile reply actions
Yep...
They tried to make Outlaw something he wasn’t then got upset when it didn’t happen.
Players should be put in a position to succeed, not fail.
What did they try to make him that he wasn't?
Good?
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by eLonepb on Dec 16, 2011 9:06 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
It seemed as though OutLOL
Was being asked to create offense when he was effective in small doses as a part of the offense
by sour grapes on Dec 16, 2011 9:14 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Underperformed obviously...
But he was just asked to to do much at times. The lack of talent hurt his game. Glad he’s gone regardless.
Honestly, he looks like crap last season
but he looked real good when he was with the Blazers. Lack of athleticism really killed his game.
Dwight or Bust
Nets lose 33+ games this season.
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I was referring to the lack of talent around him as well
But I agree. It’s so weird to watch some of those Blazers clips. He didn’t have a SINGLE highlight all season. It’s like he forgot how to play. So weird.
I think your spot on with his teammates
and we didn’t really have a team identity. Blazers were a good team, and he did good for the role that was given to him. Wouldn’t be surprised if he played good for another team down the road.
Dwight or Bust
Nets lose 33+ games this season.
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worth $7MM
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I'm pretty sure Avery and Deron are working well together
And if there was the slightest bit of conflict, I’m sure Avery would be shown the door.
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by eLonepb on Dec 16, 2011 9:06 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
The amnesty will make things really interesting today....
If Okafor gets the hook I don’t see the nets passing on the opportunity to put in a bid for say 5mil and if we got him then Humprhies would be ideal to use as a sign and trade for more assets
by boogeewon on Dec 16, 2011 8:54 AM EST via mobile reply actions
Thabeet can be a no risk / high rewards player.
Okafor you already know what you’re getting. Did he get cut yet ?
Okafor is a major solid
For the right price, he would be a great compliment next to Howard. Our front court would be the # 1 and 2 picks from the 2004 draft.
by BrooklynNets on Dec 16, 2011 10:39 AM EST up reply actions
Agreed
I’d actually say that he’s pretty fairly paid right now. Yes he has no offensive game, but when you compare the money & years left on his deal versus what guys like Nene & Chandler(more so) got, then Okafor is worth the majority of his contract. I doubt he gets amnestied.
are you kidding me?!
Thabeet is a no rewards player. biggest bust of the last decade.
by sheepareevil on Dec 16, 2011 12:29 PM EST up reply actions
Anybody know if we are going to bid on any amnesty players ?
Is Gilbert Arenas still on our radar screen ?
No Okafor
We’d be on the hook the duration of his contract.
One year deals only.
by Jack Handy Jr on Dec 16, 2011 8:58 AM EST up reply actions
We could trade him after July first and get good assets in return
He would be Ideal next to Lopez….
Just looking at it from a short and long term idea, he would improve this team in the short term in the paint then long term he would bring a good return when we would have to dump him after the season. We in turn could get a pick for Humphries now in a sign and trade if we won the bid for Okafor. Either way clearly the Nets are waiting to see who else gets the hook today before signing Humphries and AK.
by boogeewon on Dec 16, 2011 9:14 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
I am very happy with Billy's job this summer...
Too bad we used our best assets on the Deron trade but we did what we had to do…
And we gave up less for Deron than Melo.
$10-$12M one year deals for Hump and AK47 (with $500,000 buyout of second year team option) and we are loked and loaded.
by rundmc00 on Dec 16, 2011 8:58 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
Does any one here knows in person the person involve in the sbnation app? We need updated version eg. Make refreshing automatic.
by clarbar on Dec 16, 2011 9:05 AM EST via mobile reply actions
I'm going to try leaving feedback on th App Store
In Brook I trust
by John at the Jersey Shore on Dec 16, 2011 10:37 AM EST up reply actions
Waiting until the last second possible.
Hoping Orlando blinks.
by Clayton Balch on Dec 16, 2011 9:10 AM EST up reply actions
Waiting for amnesty deadline
To see what shakes loose
by sour grapes on Dec 16, 2011 9:16 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
I'd make a run at Erdin if possible.
by sour grapes on Dec 16, 2011 9:08 AM EST via mobile reply actions
I want to wait...
and sign D-12 in the summer as a free agent. Team looks good enough with AK & Hump to be fun to watch… Also, this way: 1) we keep Brook, 2) give up nothing, and 3) D-12 gets his revenge on Otis… that would be sweet…..
and he loses his money....
there is no way he would do that…..would u give up $40 million to get revenge??
by devinharris34 on Dec 16, 2011 9:15 AM EST up reply actions
Wait, what?
By:
There’s no albatross contract like there was last year with Travis Outlaw…
You mean, the equivalent of the MLE, no?
by Dopeness on Dec 16, 2011 9:16 AM EST reply actions 2 recs
Ah Net income
All that outlaw defending and once he’s gone his contract is an albatross, lol.
"Next year, with a full training camp, I think he can go after that Scott Skiles' record of 30." - Billy King
by shea23 on Dec 16, 2011 11:20 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
yes actually. looking forward to see what Irving will look like. and it's the return of basketball!!
by soul driver on Dec 16, 2011 9:23 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I want to see what Frank in action
"Success is peace of mind which is a direct result of self-satisfaction in knowing you did your best to become the best that you are capable of becoming." - John R. Wooden
by D Will to Succeed on Dec 16, 2011 10:10 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
very
"Success is peace of mind which is a direct result of self-satisfaction in knowing you did your best to become the best that you are capable of becoming." - John R. Wooden
by D Will to Succeed on Dec 16, 2011 10:09 AM EST up reply actions
This team is good now......but....
Marshon Brooks is going to make them great…….
Dwight Howard
If Howard is convinced he wants to play for the Brooklyn Nets, why is it imperative that we trade for him before the trading deadline? If I were him, I would want my new team to have as many assets as possible to improve for the year 2013. I’d want them to finish low in the standings get a great draft pick from a fantastic draft and make sure they sign player to one year contracts so they have cap room for me in 2013. Don’t you think he would prefer coming to the Nets in Brooklyn with Brook Lopez still part of the team? This is a shortened year and basically irrelevant from a Nets perspective. Real basketball won’t even begin for a third of the season considering that teams haven’t even played together due to the strike.
In short, play out the season and hold onto your assets and sign Howard next year. He knows we want him. What am I missing?
Only fear is Lakers trade for him and he resigns...
It is down to us and the Lakers. If King pulls this off, we are set for the next 5 to 8 years.
It probably also involves money...
He probably can make more if he’s traded then if he becomes a free agent…
Antoine Fright???
Thorn was a horrible drafter!
srsly?
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dude...
that IS Outlaw. SMH.
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The NBA - Where 2012 doesn't happen
Patrick Ewing - The NBA's all-time leader in rushing yards
M I K E is always wrong
don’t know why I believed that wasn’t Outlaw
Dwight or Bust
Nets lose 33+ games this season.
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cablevision is going down the tubes
A major exec just quit
by DJ HeavyDuty on Dec 16, 2011 10:01 AM EST up reply actions
Jazz signed Josh Howard
More of an indication that Kirilenko is going to sign with the Nets.
"Losing is the same as winning, only with fewer points." - Keith Van Horn (90s Nike commercial)
Kings are also in on AK for 9 million per so I wouldn’t call anything a done deal just yet
by mytoemytoe on Dec 16, 2011 9:40 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
I hope AK goes to Sacramento
if we’re letting these guys go somewhere else, it means Fegan and BK must be making progress with Orlando ownership. I said the same thing when we let Nene go back to Denver. I was right until Orlando’s ownership kiboshed the deal(for now)>
RIP baby. I love you forever. Our dream of seeing D12 with the Nets is getting closer.
He'll make it up and more....
Becoming a global brand with Proky… That why we will never lose D-Will. Global reach is worth so much more
he was able to accomplish that with proky this summer
My lil man.....can't tell me god don't exist.
by killa kadafi191 on Dec 16, 2011 9:47 AM EST up reply actions
didn't NI write
for a year that Outlaw’s contract was reasonable, fair, and not anything hurting the team. Today it’s an “albatross”.
by gizzymhv on Dec 16, 2011 9:51 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
Take his talents to Atlantic Ave?
Dwight or Bust
Nets lose 33+ games this season.
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by Shameer1016 on Dec 16, 2011 11:37 AM EST up reply actions
Soon as Billy gets off the phone with Alex Martins
Section 18, Row 7 at The Rock!
"Your 2010-2011 New Jersey Nets - It Is What It Is"
There's no reason for BK to get off the phone with Alex Martins
until he can convince him to make the trade. At that point, we won’t need AK.
RIP baby. I love you forever. Our dream of seeing D12 with the Nets is getting closer.
I think you have to wait for all the amnesty declarations
And maybe give Otis one last chance to change his mind.
That's a great point
RIP baby. I love you forever. Our dream of seeing D12 with the Nets is getting closer.
Kirilenko is in the drivers seat...
Why would he take less money and years ?
Is he really that close to Prokhorov or is he a Putin man ?
Have I seen this befor
The last Nets team that was built like this was under the radar too
D Will >> J Kidd . DWill is Kidd with a jumpshot
Morrow >>L Harris . Spot up jump shooter
Shawne < Van Horn . Slow footed big man whot hits 3pters
AK < K Mart . good defender who can finish the oop
Lopez >>>> McCoulogh Slow footed post guy
Hump >> A Williams . Diesel post player
Brooks = RJ . Rookie off the bench who is better then we could have hoped.
Sheldon < Collins. Glue guy who doesnt put up many stats
by DWILL-of-the-GODZ on Dec 16, 2011 9:56 AM EST reply actions
“D Will >> J Kidd . DWill is Kidd with a jumpshot”
He may be a better all-around offensive player…. but come on! Kidd is one of the best PGs of ALL TIME. Dwill is one of the best PGs right now. Not close in my mind.
Deron has a while to go to be Kidd...
Kidd was all defense for years. One of the top three passers ever.
Its close but dwill has a long way to go in his career
You play to win the game!
by stevieboyNETS on Dec 16, 2011 9:59 AM EST up reply actions
DWill is the Best all around PG in the NBA
I love Kidd but Ive seen them both play and I think DWill is a better PG. The only thing Kidd does better then DWill is rebound.
by DWILL-of-the-GODZ on Dec 16, 2011 10:04 AM EST up reply actions
LOL no.
I think Deron is the best point guard in the NBA, but he is definitely not better than Kidd. He plays no where near the floor game Kidd played and is not even half the defensive player Kidd was.
by GrandKenyon6 on Dec 16, 2011 11:42 AM EST up reply actions
Those Nets Finals teams
Were ELITE defensive teams. Absolutely elite. Defense was one of the only things they had going for them some nights. It was tough as hell to score in the halfcourt game with that roster.
It was fun crushing Fatoine Walker and Pierce
by rundmc00 on Dec 16, 2011 10:00 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
great times
You play to win the game!
by stevieboyNETS on Dec 16, 2011 10:00 AM EST up reply actions
That's true.
Too bad we couldn’t do JACK in the Finals, though. bah!
That Horry quote before the finals told us everything about the two teams involved...
“The Nets? They’ve got a nice little team”
We never had a chance.
Kmart
Always shut down Fatoine and J Oneal
by NetAnalyst on Dec 16, 2011 10:26 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
J O'Neal was Kmart's you know what..
I loved loved loved watching him get in Jermaine’s head and Jermaine’s game going completely off the deep end. He just couldn’t deal with Kmart’s intensity. Man do I miss him!
NY media will be on fire!
The Knix will be forgotten real quick
by DJ HeavyDuty on Dec 16, 2011 10:23 AM EST up reply actions
yahoo article regarding Kris Humphries
"Some things you just can't question. Like you can't question why two plus two is four. So don't question it, don't try to look it up. I don't know who made it, all I know is it was put in my head that two plus two is four. So certain things happen. Why does it rain? Why am I so sexy? I don't know." - Shaquille O'Neal
by CinnamonToastCrunch on Dec 16, 2011 10:10 AM EST reply actions
how old?
"Some things you just can't question. Like you can't question why two plus two is four. So don't question it, don't try to look it up. I don't know who made it, all I know is it was put in my head that two plus two is four. So certain things happen. Why does it rain? Why am I so sexy? I don't know." - Shaquille O'Neal
by CinnamonToastCrunch on Dec 16, 2011 10:12 AM EST up reply actions
I asked cap guy Tim Donahue when is the deadline for teams to hit the "salary floor"
He said:
@eLonePB Last day of the season. (That’s the date where payroll becomes official for all CBA related items.)
Section 18, Row 7 at The Rock!
"Your 2010-2011 New Jersey Nets - It Is What It Is"
Yeah, I thought that was common knowledge.
That’s why I was never worried about having to “waste” cap on players in the off-season to hit the floor.
Yeah I didn't know that
So we can technically go in with the team we have now, tons of cap space, if Billy thinks the Magic are near the breaking point.
If they aren’t, we can proceed with Hump & AK (if they’ll sign).
Section 18, Row 7 at The Rock!
"Your 2010-2011 New Jersey Nets - It Is What It Is"
Yeah...
But you’re saying it as Kirilenko and Humphries are just gonna wait around for the Nets. AK, maybe; not Kris.
For the record, I’m for giving Humphries $10 for one year and AK $11.5.
I think I misread your premise a little.
Apologies.
elone, you just raised a crucial point
I’ll explain below.
RIP baby. I love you forever. Our dream of seeing D12 with the Nets is getting closer.
that's what I thought too
I still believe we can do IT !
by faNETicS on Dec 16, 2011 10:42 AM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
AK n Hump aren't stupid
they know by signing a 1-year deal, the plan will be to ship them off to orlando in march if we can pull it off
cant help in negotiations. I just dont see that as an attractive aspect of signing with us right now
gonna take a silly 1-year rate to sign either
who else are interested
in Hump and AK?
The Kings have been rumored with AK but that’s it, if true at all. Nobody’s raised a hand up for Hump. Somebody like Crawford’s gotten more rumored offers and he ended up settling for 2 years, 5M/yr.
wellll
i do agree, but i’m also not one that equates what we hear in the media to reality. i doubt no teams are interested in Hump cuz of the KimK stuff, dude is a solid player
and AK47 doesnt seem like he really ‘needs’ to come over to the states, he seems quite happy with CSKA
trade for robin lopez please
Jersey Strong, Brooklyn Ready
by BrettGardnerLF on Dec 16, 2011 10:17 AM EST reply actions
Playing with Robin would be a distraction for Brook?
He’ll play exponentially better alongside his twin. Their college coach always kept them on the floor together and rested them together because of the weird twin factor they displayed. They just raise their game to a higher level
by NuttinBut on Dec 16, 2011 10:34 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
he's like the bizzarro twin
personally I would love to see them on the same team. watching them go head to head is always fun.
by sheepareevil on Dec 16, 2011 12:33 PM EST up reply actions
Time is on our side
The longer we wait the more leverage we get. Sure we will lose some games but this is all about Brooklyn. We can hold out until the trade deadline since their will be alot of players out there
AK47 is playing in Moscow and is in no rush to leave. Maybe Proky told him to sit tight in the motherland until the smokes settles. I think he will play with Dwight
W Chandler will be back stateside in mid Feb. He was alot of people’s #1 target last year. Why not wait until Feb for him. If we lose out on Dwight we can pick him up.
K Mart will also be back from China in mid Feb. If we miss out on Dwight and have a bad record then what better player to pick up then KMart for the final 2 months in NJ. It will be a PR goldmind.
The longer the Magic hold on D12 the more likely Bynum will be injured. His knees are a ticking timebomb.
If we keep our cap space, Orlando will cave in.
by DWILL-of-the-GODZ on Dec 16, 2011 10:23 AM EST reply actions
Yeah but
when they do, lopez needs to be removed from the equation. Cap space and Picks is all they should get for Howard. No more Turk too.
And then you woke up and spelled
L-A-K-E-R-S
by Belarus4life on Dec 16, 2011 10:30 AM EST up reply actions
still the lakers offer of gasol beats that
My lil man.....can't tell me god don't exist.
by killa kadafi191 on Dec 16, 2011 10:32 AM EST up reply actions
Stop
This whole thing that Howard wants to be a Laker is overblown.
I will be the first to say that I WAS WRONG, but that ship has sailed off and media just cant accept that Howard wants to go the NETS.
yea, but does he ONLY want to be a net
I truly want to believe that, and part of me does
but no one really knows. if orlando reaches a deal with LA tomorrow, does Dwight go there and promise to re-sign? no one knows outside of dwight (and hopefully deron and billy) :)
We will never know
Otis and Magic FO knows but wont say.
Billy and Dwill might know but cant say.
So we have to wait. But if billy knows he only wants Nets, I would try to find a way to not include Lopez since Otis wants to play hard ball.
We should already know that Otis caves already. Remember Fool’s Gold. He is a bad poker player. Patience will win on this one.
agreed pretty much all around
can we just hibernate until March?!?!?! :)
I know!
God told me.
In Brook I trust
by John at the Jersey Shore on Dec 16, 2011 10:45 AM EST up reply actions
beat me to it
My lil man.....can't tell me god don't exist.
by killa kadafi191 on Dec 16, 2011 10:32 AM EST up reply actions
He'll have 5 to start the season
Section 18, Row 7 at The Rock!
"Your 2010-2011 New Jersey Nets - It Is What It Is"
even if you take Bynum out
Gasol still beat that
My lil man.....can't tell me god don't exist.
by killa kadafi191 on Dec 16, 2011 10:34 AM EST up reply actions
Doubtful
He’s 30+ with a huge contract. Although I do think he can be flipped for young players to send to Orlando.
But if they want nothing to do with Bynum, then Lakers are out.
Section 18, Row 7 at The Rock!
"Your 2010-2011 New Jersey Nets - It Is What It Is"
not realy
Gasol has 10 years on Lopez and the Lakers have Dallas’s 1st round pick which will be in the late 20’s
by DWILL-of-the-GODZ on Dec 16, 2011 10:36 AM EST up reply actions
Orlando is stupid tho
they’re more worried about fan attendance and dont mind expensive older players. nothing we’ve seen or read says they are interested in rebuilding type assets
they’d probly trip over themselves for Gasol cuz he’s a stay competitive now type player, and they’re too stupid to have a long-term vision or see the consequences of such an action
nothing we’ve seen or read says they are interested in rebuilding type assets
Nothing we have seen or read has been true. They know if they lose Howard then they are going to be in rebuilding mode. You do that with Lopez or Bynum not Gasol
by DWILL-of-the-GODZ on Dec 16, 2011 10:44 AM EST up reply actions
I hope you are proven right
and i will have no problem telling you so on the day we get him :)
if that was true
Dwight would already be a Laker
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by Taylor Made on Dec 16, 2011 10:42 AM EST up reply actions
This seems promising
If Orlando asks for Brooks to sweeten the deal is everyone going to complain? We won’t miss him once Dwight makes his Nets debut.
by NuttinBut on Dec 16, 2011 10:31 AM EST via mobile reply actions
I'm not letting someone picked in the mid 20s of the draft
stop us from getting dwight, not matter how much i like him
some ppl act like he’s this untouchable talent, which i find comical. dude was passed on by plenty of teams for reasons
by Dep on Dec 16, 2011 10:32 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Haha seriously
I think people are gonna be disappointed with him. He’s not gonna be able to dominate the ball and take an absurd volume of shots anymore. We’ll see though
by NuttinBut on Dec 16, 2011 10:37 AM EST via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
People get passed in the draft for alot of reasons
- He is considered old at 22. They dont think he has that much upside
- Bigs and PG’s typically go early in drafts. Alot of good SG’s have slipped in the draft. Kobe wasnt a top pick.
by DWILL-of-the-GODZ on Dec 16, 2011 10:39 AM EST up reply actions
Tru
But the odds of a mid 20s pick becoming an impact player in the NBA are tragically low. and i like Marshon a lot, but all I’m saying if he stands between getting Dwight or not, his bags are packed b4 i hang up the phone
I have been big on Brooks since before the draft.
I like his game and it’d more suited for the NBA then College. Providence was one of the fastest paced teams in the NCAA. He has a great work ethic. He got better every year in college. Dont see how he isnt going to be good.
by DWILL-of-the-GODZ on Dec 16, 2011 10:51 AM EST up reply actions
if he's really all that
Deron might put the kibosh on him leaving and force BK to figure out something else
Jet Black Ninja
8 > 3
Deron would never do that.
He knows the value of Dwight Howard. Even if Marshon played out of his mind and averaged 20 ppg right out of the gate, his value could never be compared to Dwight’s. It wouldn’t be hard to find another high scoring guard, but it’d be impossible to find another Dwight Howard
by NuttinBut on Dec 16, 2011 11:02 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Low Expectations
I like the realism they are showing, but to compare us to last year and say we are making strides is kind of disingenuous. We have higher hopes than that. I respect that BK doesn;t want to just spend money to spend money, but if AK and Hump don’t arrive (everyone assumes they will) and don’t clog up cap space, then yes, it is a decent, competitive team that might make the playoffs. Not much more. And if Howard is lost, then where are we exactly?
Disingenuous or not, it's REALITY.
And FACT. What we have NOW is eons better than what we had last year.
if Orlando doesn't ask for Brooks
then the rook’s probably not having a great start to his career
2 Words = DREAM SHAKE
I am REALLY looking forward to seeing what Lopez has been working on ALL SUMMER.
After being called out as soft.
After being tagged as overrated.
After being dangled as trade bait in, now 2 separate trade scenarios.
After being REJECTED by the other trade partners as not enough return value.
After having to watch footage of himself hosting last years Disney XD and wondering why people laugh at him
After slapping the crap outta that B that gave him mono… oh wait, he’s still Big Disney, so that probably ain’t happening.
Jet Black Ninja
8 > 3
ya know
I’m ready for him to be a monster. He has the skills
by DJ HeavyDuty on Dec 16, 2011 10:37 AM EST up reply actions
what's Plan F if we don't get Hump?
Any chance Shelden can have a career revival
That might have its advantages
Without Hump I guarantee Brooks rebounding average would shoot right up to 9.0 possibly and that kind of jump will surely grab peoples attention (Orlando.).
by NuttinBut on Dec 16, 2011 11:05 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Yves Darbouze @DonMagicDraper 1h Reply Retweet Favorite · Open
Kobe Bryant’s mad cuz he knows what Lakers know. Dwight Howard doesn’t want to go to LAL. Called him & DHow told him what he can’t tell us.
by No Sleep Till Brooklyn on Dec 16, 2011 10:37 AM EST reply actions
It would be SWEET to be in the driver's seat...
play out the rest of the season
BROOK PLAYS THE 4
Jet Black Ninja
8 > 3
You see Killa
even though this is a rumor, I didnt need this guy to say to me.
This whole thing that Howard wants to be a Laker is overblown.
I will be the first to say that I WAS WRONG, but that ship has sailed off and media just cant accept that Howard wants to go the NETS.
But, but, but...
Everyone wants to play with Kobe…
but, but, but its the Lakers
Its Showtime
but, but, but Howard… likes movies….
Jet Black Ninja
8 > 3
+1
He wanted to go to the Lakers IF they got Paul. Not much of a future there with Kobe
by DWILL-of-the-GODZ on Dec 16, 2011 10:41 AM EST up reply actions
If this is Melo drama
The Lakers are the Nets
And the Nets are the Knicks
Lakers rumored to have “best package”, but in the end, Dwight wants the Nets and the Magic will get a ton of assets from us – and we’ll get Dwight.
Section 18, Row 7 at The Rock!
"Your 2010-2011 New Jersey Nets - It Is What It Is"
by eLonepb on Dec 16, 2011 10:41 AM EST up reply actions 4 recs
Precisely.
Except (and I know you put this in quotes) in this drama, the Knicks (the Nets) have the better package.
For the record, I still don't think the Magic will trade Howard.
I think they’ll make the same mistake twice.
(And I’ve been saying that for the past week.)
They just couldn't. I'd love it but they couldn't. Could they? Nah,
Maybe? Nah. But seriously imagine if they did and nets gave them Lopez is a sign and trade I’d freak.
"Next year, with a full training camp, I think he can go after that Scott Skiles' record of 30." - Billy King
ha, hopefully if they dont trade him
Dwight will just say eff the bird rights and come on down and not even ask us to S&T for him
keep brook or put together a package for Josh Smith. God i would love to get him to go with Deron n Dwight
The best part about the trade package before
Was that I was dead on right: Anthony Morrow is untouchable.
And for good reason.
Section 18, Row 7 at The Rock!
"Your 2010-2011 New Jersey Nets - It Is What It Is"
REAL excited about this
hopefully it means he’s stepped up other parts of his game. we know he’s lights out shooting, but if he could become a decent perimeter defender? what an asset
by sheepareevil on Dec 16, 2011 12:36 PM EST up reply actions
Not entirely true
Dwight actually wants to go to LA. He has a #1 in the Nets, but it sounds as if he would also like LA.
Melo didn’t have options, he only wanted Knicks. Nets were players only because we had assets to trade.
Ric Bucher reported that he's heard that Deron Williams and Dwight Howard have discussed playing together in the future. - Kevin Baumer
It’s the Lakers. It’s like going to the Yankees. Even if the team is bad, players just want to put on that uniform and be part of that legacy, knowing the team probably won’t be bad for long.
I don’t know anything more than anyone else, and I don’t base my opinion off of him liking movies or wanting to be an actor.
I disagree based on DWill's WFAN interview of 12/12
Among other things, DWill told Dwight the Net’s front office and support from management was the best and from all accounts he meant it and is still happy. Meanwhile, right now, Kobe is pissed and frustrated at the LAL front office and it seems he has no input. Dwight can see that. I think we have that advantage over LAL.
In Brook I trust
by John at the Jersey Shore on Dec 16, 2011 11:23 AM EST up reply actions
Can't believe we can't get some 'U Mad Gifs' around here... where's Killa when you need him?
Jet Black Ninja
8 > 3
LOL
The Michael Irvin/Warren Sapp one posted on here a few days ago is the best I’ve seen in a while
ah, sorry. i forgot a subject line. my bad.
mod can kill it if needed
Their faces after doing it, makes it
Sapps little look up and Irvin going bonkers
moiso cracks me up
the best one for me is the morgan freeman one
FRANKS AND BEANS FRANKS AND BEANS
by lemmetakeutodamovies on Dec 16, 2011 2:47 PM EST up reply actions
Best thing for our hopes for Dwight
Would be for CP3 and Blake blow the roof off.
D12 would see what a great PG and wonderful opportunity can do.
by No Sleep Till Brooklyn on Dec 16, 2011 10:40 AM EST reply actions 2 recs
a feel good thread
I needed this.
Let’s Go Nets!
I still believe we can do IT !
by faNETicS on Dec 16, 2011 10:41 AM EST via iPhone app reply actions
Last Week
I was all for Nene and moving on, but after Nene signed with Denver, I realized that their Agent is LITTLEFINGER in all this.
Why would the Agent let NENE sign with Denver if he didnt know HOWARD wants to be with the NETS?
Agent would be happy with Howard in LA, but he wouldnt have let his other client take the lesser deal.
This is the bottom line. Nene in Brooklyn is better then Nene in Denver. Yeah he wont get MAJOR endorsements in BK but he would get better ones then in DENVER. Agent =$$$$$$$
I don't think the Nets really wanted Nene...
even if Howard was not coming here…
Nene not a good fit with either Howard or Lopez.
Or
Agent: “Billy, I know you guys really want Howard and I think Howard wants to come to you guys. Let’s play this out right. I will say you guys offered Nene $65 mill and wait for Denver to match. Once we get their offer, we will push hard to get Howard to you guys.”
Billy: "Bet!!!’
I wouldn't be surprised if that's the way it went down...
I would love to hear some of those private conversation between G.M’s and agents….
anyone know why Nick Young hasnt been signed yet?
@ HowardBeckNYT
Deal done, source says. NBA is back.
-November 26th, 3:17 am.
or Stuckey?
some pretty good fas available.
Surprised Hump hasnt been signed as well.
@ HowardBeckNYT
Deal done, source says. NBA is back.
-November 26th, 3:17 am.
could be something brewing still....
Its BK we’re talking about here, so I wouldn’t be surprised
Jet Black Ninja
8 > 3
Knicks practice about to air on MSG
Am i that desperate for basketball?
"Success is peace of mind which is a direct result of self-satisfaction in knowing you did your best to become the best that you are capable of becoming." - John R. Wooden
by D Will to Succeed on Dec 16, 2011 10:59 AM EST reply actions
why cant the nets do that…lol
@ HowardBeckNYT
Deal done, source says. NBA is back.
-November 26th, 3:17 am.
Really?
Nice who needs spy-gate when you can learn the other teams techniques on TV those 2 pre season games are ours!
by beefylennox on Dec 16, 2011 11:21 AM EST up reply actions
Well I'd love to see him coaching defense to the team
Mike D: “Ok listen up! Defense! Here’s what I want you to do…when they have the ball on their end…try not to let them score! Ok thank you for patiently sitting through that lesson. See you tomorrow morning!”
by NuttinBut on Dec 16, 2011 11:31 AM EST via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
Better sign Hump...
This team is going to get destroyed on the boards if we don’t sign Hump.
Not necessarily
I think Brook’s rebounding was down last year because of how well Hump rebounds the ball. Without Hump i would assume Brook’s rebounding numbers would go back up. He did average 8 boards a game his first season and close to 9 his second season. Last year made everyone think Brook is a bad rebounder but a mediocre 6 boards a game isnt bad when your playing with someone who is averaging 10 boards a game.
I want Humphries back too though, don’t get me wrong, but i don’t think it’s the end of the world in the rebounding department without him.
http://www.clipsnation.com/2011/12/15/2637680/an-open-letter-to-clipper-bandwagoners
Great post from a Clippers fan about bandwagon jumpers- will be interesting to see what happens if we land D12.
I was actually going to write something very similar to that when (yes, that was definitive) the Nets get Dwight Howard.
Don’t know if I want to anymore. I feel like it wouldn’t be original.
Hmm...
I mean, I guess people did like my Graham post — shameless plug: http://sbn.to/hQjtDI — which wasn’t exactly original.
It was poorly written, I can do better.
I probably will write something similar
It won’t resemble that one whatsoever though. It won’t be directed at Knicks fans only either, but all fans everywhere. I just wanna remind them of how they used to view us and make jokes at our expense. How the mere mention of our name warranted a chuckle. I’m not going to enjoy the bandwagon fans in the least bit
by NuttinBut on Dec 16, 2011 11:21 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
That is great! Good read.
The Nets are sometimes called the Clippers of the East but did you know the Clippers history makes the Nets look like the Celtics. The have only made the playoffs 4 times in their history and never won a series. (Credit due: heard this on the WFAN this week)
In Brook I trust
by John at the Jersey Shore on Dec 16, 2011 11:15 AM EST up reply actions
wait the clippers did win a series
they beat denver one year
My lil man.....can't tell me god don't exist.
by killa kadafi191 on Dec 16, 2011 11:18 AM EST up reply actions
Ok, probably my bad.
I’ll fire my researcher.
In Brook I trust
by John at the Jersey Shore on Dec 16, 2011 11:24 AM EST up reply actions
Sam Cassel was awesome...
One of my favroite all time Nets.
also responsible for one of my all time favorite gifs
by sheepareevil on Dec 16, 2011 12:40 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Was an underrated shooter, and leader
Dwight or Bust
Nets lose 33+ games this season.
Follow @Meer2Fly16
by Shameer1016 on Dec 16, 2011 12:50 PM EST up reply actions
I would hope so lol
unless we have a case of Jowanna Man
Dwight or Bust
Nets lose 33+ games this season.
Follow @Meer2Fly16
mine too.
He killed us that year when he just couldn’t get healthy. Cal was the coach.
Question...
What happens if Brook says “you can trade me to Orlando, but I won’t sign with them”? Would that not kill the D12 deal? What’s Brook’s incentive to go to Orlando if he doesn’t want to? I presume more money than he could get elsewhere (and getting paid in a no-state-income-tax state is a sweet deal.) But if Brook wants to play elsewhere, what’s to stop him?
Brook is restricted and he loves Mickey Mouse more than his mom
by rundmc00 on Dec 16, 2011 11:20 AM EST up reply actions 5 recs
"he loves Mickey Mouse more than his mom"
Actually made me laugh out loud in my office. :-)
Critical Success!
lmao if that happened YOU KNOW THE END IS NEAR
In Prokhorov & Billy King WE TRUST.
8 > 3
DH12 OR BUST!
Official Member of the "Travis OutLOL Society". 5 years, 35 Million Dollars worth of lulz.
No one would believe him...
…come on, it’s Team Disney!
In Brook I trust
by John at the Jersey Shore on Dec 16, 2011 11:26 AM EST up reply actions
While there is no way to know...
It is very possible that Dwight simply wants the Nets…where he can get Deron, Brooklyn and his own legacy.
The LA thing may be a media creation, especially without Chris Paul.
Billy and Deron do seem awfully calm about the whole thing.
hoping for that
That Dwight prefers the Nets because he’ll be the man and he’s got his partner/sidekick in Deron waiting. With LA, he’ll be Kobe’s sidekick and when Kobe’s done, he’ll be part of a new rebuilding, with his own partner/sidekick still undetermined.
Is LA afraid to part with both Gasol and Bynum not because they overvalue their bigs, but because they’re not absolutely sure Dwight would re-sign with them? I know it’s unlikely but given the situation above, not entirely impossible.
LA would have Kobe, Dwight and Hedo...
That makes up the full salary cap for this year and two more.
And they have no other decent players and would give up draft picks.
Nets would seem like a logical first choice.
I agree with you Rundmc…the only thing that concerns me is this. CP3 WANTED the Knicks- openly demanded a trade. But they went ahead and traded him to the Clippers. Now I know the Knicks had pretty much no assets….but still even if both Dwight and the Nets want a trade to happen…its no guarantee.
Yes...
But like Deron…Dwight will make it to FA since he would lose big buckls with a premature extension.
As we get closer to the deadline, why should Dwight just wait a few more months and go to his first choice? If Dwight lets everyone know he is becoming a FA and sign with the Nets…we’ve won regardless of Otis.
Paul was a different story because the Knicks went in another direction when they spent their cap space on Chandler.
The reply button is your friend
In Brook I trust
by John at the Jersey Shore on Dec 16, 2011 11:27 AM EST up reply actions
I love howard but!!
I’m pretty sure he met with Proky and they have side deal set up where he gets money if he cant get the money for a 5th year on the contract. I don’t want to lose Brook Period at this point. As much as people talk down on him, the numbers speak for themselves. They always say he’s a top 5 center but other than Howard who’s better than him. he plays hurt and is still getting better. and his numbers have gotten better even under Devin Harris. If he played in the Kidd Era he would be the second best center in the NBA period!.
What makes you think theres a side deal? lol
Or that just an off the wall thought you had? Also if you think Dwight is the only center whos better than Brook then that makes him a top 2 center not a top 5. :)
No side deal is necessary...
The same way Proky could’ve made LBJ a billionaire…he can do the same with Dwight (in a legitimate way).
When are we gonna bring out the big guns?
Prokhorov needs to fly in on a chopper, make an epic entrance, and match into The Magic FO and start negotiating for Dwight right then and there. That would terrify anyone! He could get them to agree to anything. It would make for a hell of a story too
by NuttinBut on Dec 16, 2011 11:26 AM EST via mobile reply actions
He on his way as we speak!
by John at the Jersey Shore on Dec 16, 2011 11:31 AM EST up reply actions
I give up!
How do you post a picture again. It’s on Flickr.com
In Brook I trust
by John at the Jersey Shore on Dec 16, 2011 11:34 AM EST up reply actions
right click the pick
then copy the link
click the little tree
paste the link
then post
Section15 Row 12 Seats 1&2
by Angelo Mihalitsianos on Dec 16, 2011 11:45 AM EST up reply actions
One more questioin
When I have it right, does it show up in the Preview?
In Brook I trust
by John at the Jersey Shore on Dec 16, 2011 11:51 AM EST up reply actions
Got it!
Proky heading to Orlando – funny like a hour ago…
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In Brook I trust
by John at the Jersey Shore on Dec 16, 2011 12:21 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
I'd watch it..
They’d need to get PPV in on it!
by Special_Delivery on Dec 16, 2011 11:33 AM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
quiet day today
Jersey Strong, Brooklyn Ready
by BrettGardnerLF on Dec 16, 2011 11:27 AM EST reply actions
Maybe not for long (Coon tweet)b
LarryCoon Larry Coon
Heads up — today COULD see some trades — any trade exceptions that expired during the lockout were extended to expire today.
we could dump Farmar on a TPE
for example, if something like that’s lined up
yep the cavs need players badly
In Prokhorov & Billy King WE TRUST.
8 > 3
DH12 OR BUST!
Official Member of the "Travis OutLOL Society". 5 years, 35 Million Dollars worth of lulz.
I think we can sign Hump to multiple years
First of all, that would prohibit him from blocking a trade, and second of all.. as long as we keep him in the 6 million range for next year… we should still be able to add a max contract.
Kirilenko has to be 1 year though
We absolutely have to keep enough room for max contract in offseason...
Assuming this is accomplished, we could go a few different directions.
Taking into consideration
Brook’s cap hold, and 2 draft picks in 2012, and roster spots… we will have around 16.5 million.
If farmar opts out and we can move Petro (expiring and only being paid 3.5 mil, we can pay 3 mil of that).. that number goes up to 24 million.
by KingofDenial on Dec 16, 2011 11:36 AM EST up reply actions
Right now we are pushing it...
Farmar – 4m
Morrow – 4m
Deron – 17.5m
Petro – 3.5
Lopez – 9m
Sh.Williams – 3m
D.James – 1m
Brooks – 1m
=
$43m and that does not include our draft pick or roster holds. We have to hope Farmar and/or Sha.Williams opt out.
by Jack Handy Jr on Dec 16, 2011 11:35 AM EST up reply actions
Whoah
Shawne Williams is a 2 year deal???
by KingofDenial on Dec 16, 2011 11:37 AM EST up reply actions
Yes
and can anyone tell me how do I post pictures, please?
In Brook I trust
by John at the Jersey Shore on Dec 16, 2011 11:38 AM EST up reply actions
I'm under the impression it's a player option
Which I can see him opting out considering he should have a good year in NJ and there will be a ton of team with cap space next year.
Also, I think NI has said Farmar intends to opt out so he can start somewhere.. maybe in the NBA or abroad.
by Jack Handy Jr on Dec 16, 2011 11:41 AM EST up reply actions
use the picture button
its the one on the right with a pic of tree on it
right click on the image you want to post, “save image location” — then paste that location into the window that comes up on here
Thanks anyway, but I tried that 3 different ways. Formatting problem, no doubt.
Does it show up on Preview once you get it right?
In Brook I trust
by John at the Jersey Shore on Dec 16, 2011 11:44 AM EST up reply actions
No it doesnt...
Just trust it and click post.. see what happens
by KingofDenial on Dec 16, 2011 11:45 AM EST up reply actions
BTDT
Hate to waste more bandwidth learning. But thanks for the info. Maybe I’ll go over to Posting and Toasting and practice there!
In Brook I trust
by John at the Jersey Shore on Dec 16, 2011 11:52 AM EST up reply actions
sure it does
"A little boy went out to play. When he opened his door, he saw the world. As he passed through the doorway, he caused a reflection. Evil was born. Evil was born, and followed the boy."
It does show up on preview John...
If your copying and pasting the image address make sure you erase the prefix http:// which appears when you click the tree icon.
Then paste your image address and click OK…
Waiting Period....
B. King is probably waiting on potential discount ammnesty pick up forwards (R Jefferson, Okafor) before going forward with next move in signing Hump and/or AK. If we still do not have Howard before the trading deadline, we should keep in mind KMART will return from China shortly and can return to his enforcer role on Nets.
Magic is probably waiting to see a sample of games for both Lopez & Bynum before pulling the plug on a trade. Interestingly, Bynum is suspended for the first 5 games this year so they would have to wait to at least next year before they see him in action. Suspended player can they play in pre-season game? is that counted as part of 5 games suspension?
if okafor is going to be amnestied
we should try to get him. He’d complement lopez nicely
I would be shocked
If Jefferson or Okafor are amnestied. I can’t see the league’s 29 other owners footing the amnesty bill on Okafor, not to mention his contract isn’t that bad for a very good defensive big. The Spurs never signed an RJ replacement, so they’ll wait a year before amnestying RJ.
I could see fringe tax teams such as the Spurs & Celtics offer to dump a guy like McDyess or Jermaine O’neal to ensure they stay under the tax threshold. As both are on expiring deals, I could see us taking one on.
By 6 o clock
we should have more free agents to pick from.
"I think I’m the best point guard in the league. No reason. I just think I’m the best.’’-Deron Williams.
haha Mike Dantoni just said to the Knick rookie on training camp Deron Williams will run right past you
by RandyOreens on Dec 16, 2011 11:50 AM EST reply actions 2 recs
This is going to be a good day.
I passed my Level 3 PGA checkpoint today allowing me to become a certified PGA Professional, which will obviously be the precursor to a Dwight Howard trade to the Nets. I feel it.
Anyone see the Mic’d Up episode with Tebow playing against the Bears? He was down on one knee and asked God to come down to Earth and help them win the football game, and right after Marion Barber fumbled. So if that is all that needs to happen, let’s hope Tim Tebow is a Nets fan.
by Clayton Balch on Dec 16, 2011 11:52 AM EST reply actions 3 recs
Living the dream!
Discount golf lessons for all NetsDaily members? LOL!
In Brook I trust
by John at the Jersey Shore on Dec 16, 2011 12:11 PM EST up reply actions
Haha yes come hit some at Chelsea Piers.
by Clayton Balch on Dec 16, 2011 12:18 PM EST up reply actions
Hey, I've been there!
Didn’t hit balls (didn’t have my clubs), but checked out the facility. Nice, a little pricey for a bucket, but it is the big Apple. Next time I’ll make it a point to look you up!
In Brook I trust
by John at the Jersey Shore on Dec 16, 2011 12:45 PM EST up reply actions
Definitely pricey.
I’ll hook you up with some golf balls though, just let me know.
by Clayton Balch on Dec 16, 2011 12:53 PM EST up reply actions
I always get the $100 card now
that way I get maximum value and just hit as many as I feel like and take the card with me. I used to get the $30 card and I felt like I had to hit them all in one session.
"A little boy went out to play. When he opened his door, he saw the world. As he passed through the doorway, he caused a reflection. Evil was born. Evil was born, and followed the boy."
Whoa!
that is amazing. Golf is not for the impatient… or the patient… or really anyone aside from about 500 people on the planet.
Congrats.
That's for sure.
That’s why I do a lot more teaching than playing nowadays.
by Clayton Balch on Dec 16, 2011 12:19 PM EST up reply actions
Awesome, you and NetsKing should talk
He was on his way to that.
Section 18, Row 7 at The Rock!
"Your 2010-2011 New Jersey Nets - It Is What It Is"
Congrats!
I’m a relatively new golfer, started in 2007. I’m at the range at Chelsea Piers quite often.
"A little boy went out to play. When he opened his door, he saw the world. As he passed through the doorway, he caused a reflection. Evil was born. Evil was born, and followed the boy."
Come say what's up sometime.
I’m one of the Teaching Pros there.
by Clayton Balch on Dec 16, 2011 2:02 PM EST up reply actions
MarShon Brooks
Contrary to what most fans agree to…
I would love to see him play more and experience NBA to the fullest. If he comes out great, that will be perfect. If he Orl wants him for Dwight, then I dont mind not trading at all. Let NETS build around him like KDurant and Kobe
He is coachable. He got leadership. He got Swag! It’s going to be a win-win for the org!
I'm an MJ FAN (Bulls)... turned into JKIDD FAN (Phoenix-Nets)...
NOW, I'm definitely a NETFAN - Go Deron Williams!
by NETFAN on Dec 16, 2011 11:52 AM EST via mobile reply actions
HAHAHAHAHAHA
This guy was the 26th pick in a weak draft. Your expectations for this guy are absurd. Build around him like Durant and Kobe? HAHAHAHAHA. He will be lucky to be Jamal Crawford. If Orlando wants him, I will personally pick him up from the MCO airport and show him around town.
by GrandKenyon6 on Dec 16, 2011 11:59 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
well you didnt read t well
I said if he plays great.. its perfect.
Nba ia diff from college ball.
I'm an MJ FAN (Bulls)... turned into JKIDD FAN (Phoenix-Nets)...
NOW, I'm definitely a NETFAN - Go Deron Williams!
by NETFAN on Dec 16, 2011 12:08 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
So what that he was the 26th pick.......Look at all the Top Ten picks that sucked....
Marshon Brooks will be a Star player…..The End…..
by NetFan48 on Dec 16, 2011 12:55 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Not sure if this has been posted yet, but good or bad?
IamaGM IamaGM.com
On ESPN SportsCenter this morning, Ric Bucher claimed the Lakers are actively looking to move Pau Gasol for young talented roster pieces.
by Foed20 on Dec 16, 2011 11:56 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
bad if orldando told them too do that
Jersey Strong, Brooklyn Ready
by BrettGardnerLF on Dec 16, 2011 11:57 AM EST up reply actions
wow orlando*
Jersey Strong, Brooklyn Ready
by BrettGardnerLF on Dec 16, 2011 11:57 AM EST up reply actions
hahaha it did
Jersey Strong, Brooklyn Ready
by BrettGardnerLF on Dec 16, 2011 11:59 AM EST up reply actions
Great for us.
I doubt they will be used in conjunction with Bynum to Orlando. Nets offer is better for rebuilding than any package Lakers can offer. Only way Lakers offer trumps ours is if they include Gasol and Bynum to Orlando.
I support the Giants like bras support Kim Kardashian's boobs. It can be a struggle, we've had some jiggles, but we're still firm.
by BigBlueIntervention on Dec 16, 2011 11:59 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Maybe a Gasol for Josh Smith trade
by DWILL-of-the-GODZ on Dec 16, 2011 11:59 AM EST up reply actions
The Lakers could start to get eyes for one of those 4 team trades, with Portland dumping Wallace for draft picks.
That is a killer trade for Orlando, btw. Enough else there to take a chance on Bynums knees. Not sure if the draft picks are there to give to Portland for Wallace like in the Nets trade. Not sure if Atlanta gets enough either.
For those who don’t want to click:
Sorry to give ideas to LA. Haha, I’m sure they wait with baited breath to read my posts.
The same thing they were getting in the proposed facilitation of the Nets 4 way. Draft picks for making the deal happen.
WTF AM I DOING?!
It’s the Lakers. It’s like going to the Yankees. Even if the team is bad, players just want to put on that uniform and be part of that legacy, knowing the team probably won’t be bad for long.
I don’t know anything more than anyone else, and I don’t base my opinion off of him liking movies or wanting to be an actor.
-Me, a few posts up
The worry inside of me is taking over and i’m almost trying to help create what I fear most. I might need a break from this.
Nets can make the same trade
But instead of Pau going to Atlanta….Brook goes. And I’m willing to bet Atlanta rather take the salary cap friendly Lopez over a aging Gasol. Lopez + Horford is a real nice and young frontcourt.
yeah...inadverdently missed that part...
…so there you go…D12 to LA looks like a done deal if Lakers come up with this. But I’m just not sure if Atlanta does it. Gasol is nice but no guarantee Hawks would be in love with him.
if they get him for smith who wants out and marvin wiliams who they don't want yes they will def do the trade
in my opnion this is probably one of the best options WE can offer orlando
throw in those gerald wallace picks to utah
Awesome trade. Dwight would never re-sign with that line up.
Plan A is intact
In Brook I trust
by John at the Jersey Shore on Dec 16, 2011 1:07 PM EST up reply actions
lol wait
So the Hawks are going to give up their All Star PF making $5M less per year for an older slower PF??
And the Magic are TAKING ON $9M MORE IN SALARY with ZERO expiring contracts???
Section 18, Row 7 at The Rock!
"Your 2010-2011 New Jersey Nets - It Is What It Is"
There are deals out there that could kill our chances at Dwight Howard.
I’m not going to pretend they’re not out there. I’m also not going to beat the idea to a bloody pulp. This is one of my ideas. You disagree. Got it.
It's not what we as Nets fans want to see but...
Smith: 16.5 PPG / 8.5 RPG
Gasol: 18.8 PPG/ 10.2 RPG
Josh Smith has never won a championship and his contract expires at the end of next year. Do you think he’s staying in Atlanta? I don’t. If Atlanta thinks they can make a serious Championship run with an experienced Gasol, who’s contract is a year longer yet more expensive, it could very well happen. Joe Johnson ain’t so young anymore, and he’s not going anywhere for a long time. Their window to win is Joe Johnsons window.
Has Orlando mentioned they want expiring deals? Have they mentioned they want to go into full blown rebuilding mode? No and no. They’d have a lineup of: Nelson, Richardson, Wallace, Smith, Bynum. If healthy, they’re a 4, 5 or 6th seed in the playoffs.
It’s not gonna happen. It was just a “what if” doomsday scenario. Again, I don’t want to see it happen.
ban this man
"A little boy went out to play. When he opened his door, he saw the world. As he passed through the doorway, he caused a reflection. Evil was born. Evil was born, and followed the boy."
Orlando is going to eventually lose Howard...
so they will make everybody’s life miserable in the meantime…
Orlando has to sell tickets. Lopez or Bynum cant do that
by DJ HeavyDuty on Dec 16, 2011 12:02 PM EST up reply actions
Great news
I doubt Orlando would take anything less than Pau and Bynum for Dwight.
RIP baby. I love you forever. Our dream of seeing D12 with the Nets is getting closer.
I see this as bad
Orlando doesn’t want pau. they will want young players. Lakers trying to pull a multi team deal for Dwight
by Rodney Buford on Dec 16, 2011 12:24 PM EST up reply actions
Check billys tweet
https://twitter.com/bkdefend/status/147716138325905408
My iphone wont let me copy it.
Be says the beat reporters are better than al
Need some D-12
Tongue-in-cheek.
AL and King have a good relationship.
Yup, that's his source
Or Bobby Marks
Section 18, Row 7 at The Rock!
"Your 2010-2011 New Jersey Nets - It Is What It Is"
Here it is...
@bkdefend
Billy King
Enjoyed meeting the new beat writers yesterday. Much improvement over Al
Bryant said he expected another move in the coming days, perhaps for Dwight Howard.
“You would think,” he said, still obviously troubled by the Odom deal. "There is no explanation for that. It’s business and money and things like that, but still you don’t send Lamar to the Mavericks. You know what I mean? That’s just my opinion.
"I expect them to still try to be aggressive and make moves to build a championship team. If that’s the case, I’ll stand out of the way and let them do what they do."
Via Los Angeles Daily News
Read more: http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/217605/Kobe_Wonders_About_Lakers_Direction#ixzz1giZgvWA1
The more he talks..
The more I think the kids are trying to maximize salary and Odom was just a dump
by KingofDenial on Dec 16, 2011 12:04 PM EST up reply actions
Appealing to his Christian side..
Abuomak Ahmed Eltouny
Truth is, NJ is the best opportunity for @DwightHoward. “You will know the truth, and the truth shall set you free” – John 8:32. #FreeDwight
At this point, I wish the Magic Ownership had a twitter.
I support the Giants like bras support Kim Kardashian's boobs. It can be a struggle, we've had some jiggles, but we're still firm.
by BigBlueIntervention on Dec 16, 2011 12:03 PM EST up reply actions
I was thinking the exact same thing. All the little Jimmy’s would be happy if D12 came to the Nets
by JimmyLips on Dec 16, 2011 12:59 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
So much better than...
Harris
Morrow
Outlaw
favors
Lopez (recovering from mono)
That sound's so much better than last year
except at the 2, 3, 4, and 5
"Chuckers ain't champions" -- James Naismith, 1891
by calling all toasters on Dec 16, 2011 12:05 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
I would be way too early for him to b in the starting lineup
he’s definitely gonna get minutes off the bench tomoro though
If we can put the AK47 in there
That would be a competitive lineup and keep salary flexibility.
I'd rather resign Hump
Really think he would be a great trading chip. His double double average last year I believe was in only 27 minutes because he was benched in the beginning.
by KingofDenial on Dec 16, 2011 12:08 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I don't know what Hump is thinking
After his fiasco of an offseason, this guy should be in a training camp proving that mess is behind him. What is he holding out for? There’s an obvious disconnect between what he & his agent believe he’s worth, and what every GM believes he’s worth. This guy is going to cost himself millions. When he finally gets signed, I have a feeling he won’t be in basketball shape, and he’ll out of sync with the rest of his team (whatever team that may be).
we have so little talent
its scary
Jersey Strong, Brooklyn Ready
by BrettGardnerLF on Dec 16, 2011 12:09 PM EST up reply actions
We really need to get those AK-47 & Hump signings done.
by Anthony Perez on Dec 16, 2011 12:09 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Yeah... I am good with evry part of that starting lineup except the 4...
When Shelden Williams is starting on your team, that’s a problem
the Kenny Wayne Shepard and Kid Rock version?
In Brook I trust
by John at the Jersey Shore on Dec 16, 2011 12:46 PM EST up reply actions
Waiting game
ESPNSteinLine Marc Stein
But we gotta wait til midnight to know for sure. NBA teams have ’til MIDNIGHT tonight to use amnesty clause or pocket it ’til July 2012
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I am a patient boy
I WAIT I WAIT I WAIT I WAIT
by sheepareevil on Dec 16, 2011 12:45 PM EST up reply actions
Nets Daily Waiting Room...
"The mind is its own place, and in itself can make a heaven of hell, a hell of heaven"
by aunt-B on Dec 16, 2011 1:18 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
Hey...Shelden Williams grabbed 16 rebounds in a game last year...
Williams, signed to a minimum contract last July, pulled down 16 rebounds for Denver, one shy of his career high, in a 110-88 opening-night win over Utah. Nobody was more excited than his wife, Candace Parker, who only happens to one of the best women’s basketball players on the planet.
http://www.aolnews.com/2010/10/29/shelden-williams-no-mr-candace-parker-finds-role-in-denver/
ChrisMannixSI Chris Mannix
Spurs have gone back and forth “about ten times” on amnestying Richard Jefferson, team source said, but it looks like they will keep him
they did have the 2nd best record in the NBA last year with him
and he had a good season for them, although he was an abomination in the playoffs.
by GrandKenyon6 on Dec 16, 2011 12:23 PM EST up reply actions
I have yet another theory
elone said teams have until the end of the regular season to get up to the salary cap floor, so if we do not re-sign Hump and get AK47, or just bring back Hump to fill out the PF position, I think BK knows something’s very close on Dwight. I know BK will NOT leave us this short. only thing is if we bring back Hump, we’ll most likely need a 3rd and/or 4th team involved to make the trade work salary-cap wise. Thoughts?
RIP baby. I love you forever. Our dream of seeing D12 with the Nets is getting closer.
Of Course
Billy knows that Dwight wants to come to the NETS.
Unfortunately for Billy, Nets FO and us fans, so does Otis and Magic FO. Magic is going to try to reap as much money as they can. New Arena and All Star Game this year are Dwight’s detriment unfortunately.
I think everyone, Dwight, his Agent, Billy, Nets FO and Dwill thought that last trade was going to happen. Magic FO through the monkey wrench.
If Dwight is smart and sees what happened with the Melo deal, suck it up and at the end of the season S&T with us keeping a large part of our good assets and Magic getting some picks and trade exception.
While i understand the dwight or nothing aspect of our offseason
we cannot go into the season with sheldon williams as our starting 4………that’s pretty pathetic……please do something
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by Angelo Mihalitsianos on Dec 16, 2011 12:35 PM EST reply actions
while i agree with you 100%....derons not complaining
and he was the one saying get me players soo i think they know something we do not.
Jersey Strong, Brooklyn Ready
by BrettGardnerLF on Dec 16, 2011 12:37 PM EST up reply actions
The part where you say they know something that we don't
is why I think we can still get Dwight at any moment. It’s obvious Deron and him talk every day, so he probably tells Deron the very latest.
RIP baby. I love you forever. Our dream of seeing D12 with the Nets is getting closer.
deron has been very happy around here lately
and we havent gotten any better players..you could say we lost talent..and yet he`s still happy make you wonder…
Jersey Strong, Brooklyn Ready
by BrettGardnerLF on Dec 16, 2011 12:40 PM EST up reply actions
also dont forget orlando gave permission to dwights people to speak with
Lakers, and Mavericks…It does not mean he wants to go there. Denver gave us (the nets) permission to speak with Carmelo…
Jersey Strong, Brooklyn Ready
by BrettGardnerLF on Dec 16, 2011 12:41 PM EST up reply actions
That's the point
You’re correct in what you say. Why would Deron be this happy with THIS roster around him if BK wasn’t getting somewhere on the Dwight front?
RIP baby. I love you forever. Our dream of seeing D12 with the Nets is getting closer.
Well, nobody is excited about coming to NJ (players).
It all about Brooklyn, so no rush getting the team together. As long as it comes together for Brooklyn.
In Brook I trust
by John at the Jersey Shore on Dec 16, 2011 12:49 PM EST up reply actions
what u say?
Jerz not for everyone…
…except for real peepz like the ones on Nets Daily.
by Versifiervt on Dec 16, 2011 12:50 PM EST up reply actions
Just keepin' it real, man!
I stole that rational from the haters
In Brook I trust
by John at the Jersey Shore on Dec 16, 2011 12:54 PM EST up reply actions
Is that Rex Walters ?
Where has he been hiding ?
by M I K E on Dec 16, 2011 1:20 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Actually
I am curious.
Unless AK and Hump dont accept a 1 yr deals, they might not be options.
If Shel can defend a little and just grab rebounds I am ok with that. If he can grab 6-8 rbs, sign me up.
Dwill knows Dwight wants NJ. So whether by trade or FA, Dwight will be here. Why waste assets and give them to Magic? We can use some for HawkMan.
Batman, Green Mamba, Hawkman, FireStorm, Superman.
if we can rid ourselves of farmar and petro
then i can see the nets giving hump a multi year deal…bk has to act quickly though
Jersey Strong, Brooklyn Ready
by BrettGardnerLF on Dec 16, 2011 12:44 PM EST up reply actions
We can't wait for Dwight in FA
Yes, I think he’s coming in any scenario, but too many variables could be in play that aren’t now. That’s why BK is still trying. He knows he needs to get Dwight NOW.
RIP baby. I love you forever. Our dream of seeing D12 with the Nets is getting closer.
trade proposal
http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine
we give orlando houston’s 1st and our 2015 1st and 2nd rounders
we give utah our 1st and 2014 first and 2nd rounders
just saying
i think he'll have a 23ppg 8 rpg type player
by BEBESTER on Dec 16, 2011 12:44 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
WELL HE CAN BE LIKE THAT
i love brook…i think he’s top 5 in the league at his position talent wise he just needs to put it together
I was just sayzin'
There are only about 5 guys in the NBA who do over 20/8 a game, so it isn’t quite a “type” – that makes it sound as if there are many.
There are not.
In fact, there are only 2 who do it who are centers. – Brook and Dwight
Hmmm...what do you know?
Reply button is your friend
In Brook I trust
by John at the Jersey Shore on Dec 16, 2011 12:51 PM EST up reply actions
TRADE PROPOSAL
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=c6e9zyc
we give orlando houston’s 1st and our 2015 1st and 2nd rounders
we give utah our 1st and 2014 first and 2nd rounders
just saying
The an awesome trade for all teams involved...
…except for teams not named the Nets.
In Brook I trust
by John at the Jersey Shore on Dec 16, 2011 12:56 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
its good for orlando al jefferson looks like a beast this year in the shape he's in
and utah wants jefferson to leave and we give them 1st rd’ers and pieces they need at sg,sf, pg…yeah utah gets a bad deal…but orlando would be loaded up front
can the Nets please
come to terms with AK and have him in uniform by tomorrow? It’s not going to be a pretty sight seeing this going up against the Knickerbockers…
by JerseysFinest. on Dec 16, 2011 12:48 PM EST reply actions
Even if we signed him
He wouldnt play tomorrow anyway.
It is too early to predict how many games Amare and Chandler wont be in the starting lineup together?
One would have to think
that if AK and Hump aren’t signed by today, that Billy still thinks a Dwight trade is possible before the season starts.
by Clayton Balch on Dec 16, 2011 12:56 PM EST up reply actions
not really
I think he himself said no one should look into the current roster as it stands now as they’re working to add more pieces
by JerseysFinest. on Dec 16, 2011 12:59 PM EST up reply actions
So then what is the point of not signing these guys yet?
We have a game tomorrow!
If we sign AK or Hump right now, we can’t take Hedo’s contract back.
by Clayton Balch on Dec 16, 2011 1:15 PM EST up reply actions
Yes we can
Just not until Mar 1
Section 18, Row 7 at The Rock!
"Your 2010-2011 New Jersey Nets - It Is What It Is"
Right that's what I meant.
I was referring to not being able to take Hedo’s contract back right now if we signed those guys which is why I’m presuming Billy is waiting.
by Clayton Balch on Dec 16, 2011 2:05 PM EST up reply actions
netsbasketball netsbasketball
“I’m the kind of guy that will play anywhere: 5, 4, 3, 2 or 1.” —New Net Shawne Williams #netscamp
Shawne Williams a PG?
That’s when we’ll know the end is near LOL
That millisecond you're sure you're going to die when you lean back in your chair a little to far.
Dwight will be a NET
Why? Because the next championship in LA will be about Kobe tying Jordan in number of chips and the following championship will be about Kobe having 1 more ring than Jordan. In Brooklyn, a championship would be historic, and Dwight would be mentioned along with Jackie Robinson. I think that’s enough to steer him to the NETS even if traded to LA.
If Dwight truly wants to win a chip
His best bet is to pull a Lebron. Let Orlando think he’s unsure about leaving rather than demand a trade.
Then leave and sign with us in the offseason. That would be an incredible team.
Section 18, Row 7 at The Rock!
"Your 2010-2011 New Jersey Nets - It Is What It Is"
which will be good for us
we keep our picks
we keep Brook
we pay less to Dwight (assuming he won’t force a sign and trade)
The only risk here is if DWill bolt out first before we even get Dwight
I still believe we can do IT !
if we can get a guarantee from Deron that he'll stay even though we suck this year, then I'm all for it
of course, he’ll demand that we get Dwight first before re-signing.
I still believe we can do IT !
Yawn
Anyone have a Gif for boredom? I need some new developments in my life. SHEEEESH!!!!
Wake up!
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In Brook I trust
by John at the Jersey Shore on Dec 16, 2011 1:04 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
Going around in circles...
"The mind is its own place, and in itself can make a heaven of hell, a hell of heaven"
by aunt-B on Dec 16, 2011 1:22 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
lulz
Melo is complaining to the ref in the training camp pickup game.
Section 18, Row 7 at The Rock!
"Your 2010-2011 New Jersey Nets - It Is What It Is"
That is part of the training
because he is going to need to develop those skills since he doesnt play defense.
he did at one point in his carrer...i think i've posted this b4 but when usa won the gold
he was the best defender on that team guarding dudes playing 3 and 4 and shutting them down and that team had some great defenders
He gets bashed a bit much for his defense
he still plays D, its just not that good lol
Dwight or Bust
Nets lose 33+ games this season.
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howard trade
anyone else think magic are delaying trading howard till march to make our draft picks worse and to see how our rookies / sophmores turn out?
could be a part of it...
…but it likely has more to do with trying to maximize profits while D12 is on the team.
The reason why this is stupid
Is that if they do this deal now, their OWN draft pick likely becomes a potential lottery pick to score the next big superstar to rebuild a franchise with.
By waiting, their own pick will be poor, our pick will probably be ok but not great at all, and Houston’s pick will likely get pushed back since they’ll fall into the top 14.
Section 18, Row 7 at The Rock!
"Your 2010-2011 New Jersey Nets - It Is What It Is"
that's what they're doing, and buying time hoping they can still convince Dwight
I still believe we can do IT !
their ownership doesn't understand that dwight wants out
if they did they would give big baby that albatross contract
and the fact
they have a new arena and they allstar game is in ORL.
The funny thing is I think by march we wont be a lottery team. we will be fighting for the 7 or 8 seed.
Heat
Chic
Boston
ATL
Orl
NY
Indiana, PHI, NJ and the rest.
James on AK
Ledger_Nets Colin Stephenson
“If Kirilenko comes in… I don’t want to just hand him that spot… Coach is going to make him earn it, and I’m going to make him earn it.”
by RandyOreens on Dec 16, 2011 1:14 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Healthy D-james gives us a physical presence at that spot
Also he has a offensive game especially in the post, I guess just needs to become more comfortable.
"We're not there yet, but we're going somewhere," Johnson said. "And we're going to Brooklyn. We're not going to contract. We're going to Brooklyn."
D-James
"We're not there yet, but we're going somewhere," Johnson said. "And we're going to Brooklyn. We're not going to contract. We're going to Brooklyn."
let's see Damion stay healthy first
If DJames can put up 11 ppg and 30 mpg like AK, and stay healthy, that would be wonderful
maybe Howard staying right now is a good thing
what if Brook develops even more and becomes a monster? we might have to give away a little less or it might make the current offer look all that much better
It's the same thing every year
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NaVa6NHwUUg
Section 18, Row 7 at The Rock!
"Your 2010-2011 New Jersey Nets - It Is What It Is"
by eLonepb on Dec 16, 2011 1:30 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
this was better when Zach Randolph was still a fat useless load
but it’s still hilarious. you hear that boston? formidable?
by sheepareevil on Dec 16, 2011 2:35 PM EST up reply actions
If we do sign AK,
We’ll have 3 small forwards that can all play the 4. Which makes me think that we won’t sign Hump.
There all perfect
Players to play with D-howard, yeah I thought that as well.
"We're not there yet, but we're going somewhere," Johnson said. "And we're going to Brooklyn. We're not going to contract. We're going to Brooklyn."
but who will start at the 4?
i don’t think any of the 3’s are big enough to be the starting, full-time 4. Hump seems like a forgotten man and might command a lot less money
by bronxbombers2 on Dec 16, 2011 1:20 PM EST up reply actions
This I dont agree with
they can play it, but they won’t do it effectively in my opinion. I would think re-signing Humph would have been priority #1 when it came to Free Agency.
Dwight or Bust
Nets lose 33+ games this season.
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We should not forget how important rebounding is.
As currently constituted, this team is going to get crushed on the boards. Brook is a below average rebounder, which mean we need a rebounding specialist…aka….Hump.
It could also be the right positioning as well
Can’t rebound the ball from the left side if you boxing out the right.
Dwight or Bust
Nets lose 33+ games this season.
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LOL where do tjey deam up this stuff
LarryCoon Larry Coon
I’d guess the word is “no,” but haven’t heard specifically. RT @xalos91: any word on deron williams to the lakers?
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by Angelo Mihalitsianos on Dec 16, 2011 1:24 PM EST reply actions
*they dream
Section15 Row 12 Seats 1&2
by Angelo Mihalitsianos on Dec 16, 2011 1:24 PM EST up reply actions
again
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Jet Black Ninja
8 > 3
Watching your attempt at trying to post your comment...
brings back painful memories of watching Travis trying to play basketball last season….
by M I K E on Dec 16, 2011 2:07 PM EST up reply actions 5 recs
Just went throught this this morning
Using the liitle tree icon, what is pasted in must be formatted like this:
$img src=“http://www.whatever.com/…/whatever.jpg”>"/$
where the $’s are left and right things: < and >
and it WILL show up on preview if you have it right.
In Brook I trust
by John at the Jersey Shore on Dec 16, 2011 2:48 PM EST up reply actions
I think this is VERY important news posted by Foed20 before on here....Very confusing!
IamaGM IamaGM.com
On ESPN SportsCenter this morning, Ric Bucher claimed the Lakers are actively looking to move Pau Gasol for young talented roster pieces.
Why in the world would LA be looking to get younger with Kobe there? Kobe is already fuming over the Odom trade/CP3 trade and as Steven A Smith reported yesterday that he thinks he might actually ask for a trade. I can’t see Pau asking for a trade like Odom did because of the rumors. I’m sure Kobe could smooth things out with Pau if that was the case. Now we can assume that LA didn’t want to trade Bynum AND Gasol, because if they did Dwight would already be a Laker already….. or would he. Well you figure the pieces they get back from the Gasol trade would not be greater then Gasol AND Bynum package. So why is LA doing this if this was true. Did LA fold and go to Orlando and offer BOTH only to be told they want to get younger pieces now. Maybe Orlando NOW wants to rebuild even though they been saying time and time again that they want to compete and win. Something is not right here, LA wouldn’t just trade a MAJOR piece of their team without getting a MAJOR piece back especially one that Kobe likes. I really don’t know what they are thinking but this might not be good news to us Net fans if somehow they are ALL IN now with Dwight. Now I’ve been saying all along that he wants the Nets and would even come here at the end of the season if he’s not traded at the deadline but the only way he won’t be one if LA somehow trumps us here and trades for him and gets to him before Deron and the Nets do. If he’s in LA and is able to make more money there because of his bird-rights I couldn’t see him leaving to come to the Nets in the off-season. Lets hope this rumor is NOT true!!!
you wrote what they doing
Lakers clearing out cap space to make a trade for D12, in order to do it they have to take Turks contract. But the hall thing about it is this reports not going to distract KKobe and he may flip out and ask for trade
by Aidar Berlinbayev on Dec 16, 2011 1:39 PM EST up reply actions
also agree with you, they are NOW all in with Dwight and this is not good news because
with Bynum and other young pieces they get back for Pau might be better then our offer
Why would Dwight go to the laker to play with...
…Kobe, Turk and Reddick? Come on…
In Brook I trust
by John at the Jersey Shore on Dec 16, 2011 1:41 PM EST up reply actions
At this point
Otis will make decision wich offers is better us or lakers. But i just hope we will pull out D12
by Aidar Berlinbayev on Dec 16, 2011 1:46 PM EST up reply actions
I'm with ya, I want DH just as much as anybody else on here but BK better be turning over every rock and watching everything
because I have a feeling that the Lakers are a real problem here
I think the Lakers are a factor
and that’s why BK MUST do WHATEVER he has to to get Dwight here NOW. We can do our part, too. Go to your Twitter account(if you have one), and just make a comment to Dwight. Use the hashtag #FREEDWIGHT or #FreeDwight.
RIP baby. I love you forever. Our dream of seeing D12 with the Nets is getting closer.
This is good. At least they feel like they can get something back to pair with Bynum
This makes me feel a little better that the plan is not to trade Bynum and Gasol for Dwight.
yeah but maybe Orlando doesn't want Gasol now and wants Bynum and other younger pieces....
again I’m not sure what LA is thinking here but they are not going to trade Gasol for some “young pieces” right after they just dumped Odom for nothing
This is for the DWIGHT DEAL
It’s obvious to me. Orlando doesn’t want Pau. They want young players. They are shopping Pau for a multi-team deal for Dwight.
by Rodney Buford on Dec 16, 2011 1:39 PM EST up reply actions
well we gotta make a move before they can
if they move pau, they cant trade any of the pieces they got in return for him for 3 months or so……
Section15 Row 12 Seats 1&2
by Angelo Mihalitsianos on Dec 16, 2011 1:50 PM EST up reply actions
Potential Trade
What is being discussed on the Lakers forum on espn is Gasol for either:
Scola and Martin of Houston
or
Kevin Love and Derrick Williams of Minnesota
Don’t think Minnesota would trade Kevin Love personally
hah david khan would never do that and he's the dumbest gm out there
scola and martin though that may work…kobe’s gonna be pissed if they don’t land d-white tho
you might be right with Houston..
Is a package of Martin, Scola, Bynum and picks better then Lopez, Wallace?
yup better bc the magic overvalue bynum
to them brook is 1/2 of what bynum is
This is what is being reported in some circles, but there are others who believe it is not truly the case. Honestly, I don’t think anyone knows who the Magic front office like better except the Magic front office. It is all speculation. It could be that they really like Lopez and simply are playing hardball. We will know come soon enough.
i agree but you must admit this is very confusing if it is true unless LA is ALL IN on Dwight
I’m hoping Kobe says NO to the idea but I have a feeling Buss is not listening to Kobe or Odom would not have been traded.
Houston might do that trade
but than we stuck with question who Otis like more B LO and Wallace or Bynum and Martin.
by Aidar Berlinbayev on Dec 16, 2011 1:50 PM EST up reply actions
agree and why would Orlando want two centers back anyway...
this Houston deal scares me with Martin, Scola and Bynum. thats 3/5 of their starting line-up right there
I think that wouldn't entince ORL that much than taking on Gasol
They’d be adding on tons of salary, taking on those contracts wouldn’t make much sense for them.
Martin is worse than GWallace
Scola is old and pricey,
I could see LA dealing Gasol for Scola and Martin but to keep them not as trade bait for Dwight.
if dwight gets traded to the lake what do we do?
does anyone like al jefferson lol
We take a look at next year's FA group, and say "Deron pick who you want, what will make you stay"
and of course trades
by Rodney Buford on Dec 16, 2011 1:48 PM EST up reply actions
hahah like we did this year?
Man gotta think here……
by HabPSU on Dec 16, 2011 3:16 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
healthy and in game shape
i’m excited to see how the nets start off the season… we have guys in shape and now a healthy brook lopez and deron williams… hoping for a nice start and ak47 and hump to sign with us soon… let’s see what happens from now and the start of the season!!
Strike the Shepherd and the Sheep will Scatter
If only Utah would be willing to give up one of their bigs
Farmar and a pick for Milsap. No need for Hump then and we can still maintain flexibility.
by domininaldo1981 on Dec 16, 2011 1:51 PM EST reply actions
they are ready to give up both their bigs
jefferson and millsap is the price is right…but are you joking farmer and a pick no i doubt that happens…djames, farmer, ammo and picks gets that done for al or paul
i wouldn't give up Morrow and they don't need another SF
plus, look at Utah, they are over the cap. They know they aren’t going to contend, so best thing is to shed salary that will put them in a great position for FA 2012. If Farmar actually opts out, the combination of Milsap, Farmar, Miles, Okur will shed them $26mil at the end of the season. That is great for a team heading into FA. The Nets, we look at only adding $4mil to our cap, so we still maintain flexibility.
by domininaldo1981 on Dec 16, 2011 1:58 PM EST up reply actions
So if LA is shopping Pau for young pieces to trade
I think it’s safe to say that a Gasol-Bynum deal is NOT preffered by Orlando. All garbage by media sources.
I like our chances. Because I don’t believe Orlando like Bynmun either. Which also explains why LA gave up on Howard and tried to get back in on Paul.
could be right or could be that the Lakers are getting desperate now...
since the Clippers just got CP3 and Kobe is very upset. I hope YOU are right about this one.
cant ignor the fact LA will try to make a run at D12
Lets say rockets will make a trde for Pau and LA gets Martin and some else, than our package vs LA’s package out there for Otis and we have to play out season under those rumers one’s again
by Aidar Berlinbayev on Dec 16, 2011 1:58 PM EST up reply actions
I still think this can get it done
http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=c6e9zyc
the picks from now until the ened of time being included of course
not bad but again would Al Jefferson, Lopez and Petro be better then Martin, Scola and Bynum which the Lakers could offer now
Remember everybody, Houston was ready to give the Lakers Martin, Scola and a #1 pick for Pau Gasol.
they also would be getting Martin with Scola who's a PF. No need for two centers..
they probably rather have Bynum at center, scola at PF and throw in Martin plus Houston was willing to throw in another pick.
Yikes! Throw in that complimentary Gerald Wallace for draft picks and you're looking at:
That’s +4 for the Magic. That’s not good.
So all of these West Coast teams are going to help the Lakers bring Dwight into the conference?
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The Lakers just traded Lamar Odom to Dallas, the team that knocked them out of the playoffs, for essentially nothing.
Dallas helped the Lakers...
because if the Lakers acquire Howard they think are going to get Deron Williams.
Dallas helped the Lakers...
because if the Lakers acquire Howard they think are going to get Deron Williams.
So convincing he had to post it twice
Dwight or Bust
Nets lose 33+ games this season.
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Dwight or Bust
Nets lose 33+ games this season.
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by Shameer1016 on Dec 16, 2011 2:25 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
with what cap space...
what do they think they’re gonna do trae turk o glue and world piece for dwill?
oh nvm you said dullass is getting dwill
oh well we still have yatta he’ll be a superstar i know it
hey the lakers helped dallas get lamar odom
it’s all about caring and sharing…we all know of everyone’s love for tha lake
West vs East at the end of the season lol
East side always has my vote.
Dwight or Bust
Nets lose 33+ games this season.
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I'll say it again...
I don’t want any of these trades to happen. I just like to keep an eye out on what we could potentially be competing against.
Billy King isn't laughing off any possibilities.
He’s thinking what he can do to beat any and all offers.
I would think they would prefer Milsap over Jefferson.
Brook and big Al playing together would not work well.
Im fairly sure they would have to wait
60 days to trade their newly acquired pieces to orlando.
If that’s the case, why wouldn’t D12 just sign with us (who will be a much better team around him) for the same money…?
So a 3 team trade before 1/1 is the ONLY WAY to make sure D12 has bird rights, and at that point, why trade gasol for parts and bynum if you won’t trade gasol AND bynum….it makes no sense.
If lakers don’t move bynum AND gasol to orlando before 1/1….we have TREMENDOUS leverage.
by KiddShizzle on Dec 16, 2011 1:59 PM EST via mobile reply actions
I'm hoping for NO trades before the dealine then the Nets would be a lock in my eyes but ...
I could see a 3-team trade with Lakers, Houston and Orlando before 1/1 and that would be bad for us.
no they clearin up cap so they could absorb Turks contract.
by Aidar Berlinbayev on Dec 16, 2011 2:03 PM EST up reply actions
they realisticly could offer Gasol AND Bynum right now and I believe Hedo could fit with Howard..
I have a feeling that Orlando wants a different piece then Gasol (Gasol probably doesn’t want to go to a non-contender so you have to keep that in mind also)
they dont have to ask Gasol or Martin to agree on anything
both still got pending contracts which they signed
by Aidar Berlinbayev on Dec 16, 2011 2:10 PM EST up reply actions
yeah def need miinesota to add ricky rubio
i mean he’s a scrub anyway…and we’re including the best jewish pg in the world
This is a joke right?
Kevin Love is the second best young prospect after Blake. Nets have nothing they could trade for just Love, forget Love and Dwight. If we had Love on the team, a deal for dwight would have been already done.
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Why are all seemingly all basketball players wannabe music producers?
You know, makes me glad Brook is into comics. At least it’s original…
by Anthony Perez on Dec 16, 2011 2:20 PM EST up reply actions
i like brook bc he's wacky like that
nothing wrong with being into comics i’m a grown ass man (not really im 22) and im into comic books….
$2 tickets on Stubhub for tomorrow's game
I just picked up a pair in the upper level, emailed to me for $10 in total.
Go Nets
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by Real Big Devils Fan on Dec 16, 2011 2:21 PM EST reply actions
these are pretty good
for those interested
@ HowardBeckNYT
Deal done, source says. NBA is back.
-November 26th, 3:17 am.
They also paid you ten dollars ?
Pretty good deal…but I would of held out for $20…
by M I K E on Dec 16, 2011 2:23 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
So...
We aren’t signing Hump or AK47 today? and i guess the Howard deadline has probably expired…
Keysta
Until we sign both Hump and AK47, Dwight coming here now is still a possibility. Even if we sign Hump, Dwight could still be here now. In that case, we’d just have to get a 3rd team involved. As Randy said, we must be up to something.
RIP baby. I love you forever. Our dream of seeing D12 with the Nets is getting closer.
With Sheldon Williams at the 4?
Doubtful…
by Anthony Perez on Dec 16, 2011 3:12 PM EST up reply actions
I keep forgetting...
How does one quote something again?
Just wait til the season starts enjoy it and see if Management can deliver on Dwight , if Orlando doesn’t want to trade Dwight theres nothing anyone can do
Everyone is entitled to my opinion
by Hector Mercedes on Dec 16, 2011 2:36 PM EST reply actions
Nothing we can do ?
Well we can cry and stamp our feet like little babies for the next 10 years…and probably will.
its nice to know that theres more people who get little to no work done at their jobs!!!
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by Angelo Mihalitsianos on Dec 16, 2011 2:40 PM EST reply actions
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