Nets Pursuing AK-47, Humphries
by Net Income on Dec 15, 2011 12:36 AM EST
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Chris Mannix reports that the Nets "are engaged in serious talks with free agent forward Andrei Kirilenko." Kirilkenko, the 6'9" combo forward, has long been linked to the Nets for the obvious reasons: he's Russian, he used to play for CSKA Moscow before he was drafted, he advised Mikhail Prokhorov on the Nets' purchase and he's played much of his career with Deron Williams.
With the pursuit of Dwight Howard on hold and the pursuit of "A" list targets over, the Nets are not moving on to those who they think have value. Kris Humphries is another target who the Nets have been in contact with since the end of the lockout. And Adrian Wojnarowski tweets that Shawne Williams is deciding between the Knicks and Nets.
But don't expect the Nets to give many, if any, of these players multi-year deals. Instead, they will be giving them jumbo one-year deals. Wojnarowski reported Wednesday morning the Nets may be willing to offer as much as $9 million.
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Let's get them both
Along with Williams. They would all be solid free agent signings on one year deals
we need them
They would all be solid role players in a Dwight/Deron duo or a Brook/Deron duo
by i says on Dec 14, 2011 9:33 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
ugh....
got my hopes up for nothing. this sucks….
How long until we can trade them, should we have to?
60 days?
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"Your 2010-2011 New Jersey Nets - It Is What It Is"
March 1st.
So there will be two weeks between the time they can be traded and the March 15 deadline.
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Woj
The Magic still prefer what the Lakers could offer in any possible future trade talks, with a possible package of Pau Gasol and Andrew Bynum more attractive on a pure talent basis. The Nets have been far more aggressive in the pursuit of Howard than the Lakers, who are usually methodical in trade discussions.
@ HowardBeckNYT
Deal done, source says. NBA is back.
-November 26th, 3:17 am.
Nets getting used
Orlando’s counting on LA to blink and give up both Bynum and Gasol.
I can’t believe we’re going to strike out…..again.
Maybe they have a change of heart by trade deadline but this doesn’t look good for Netsnation.
GO NETS!?
"I define passion as extreme emotion."
When you have to shoot, shoot don't talk.
It wasn't Otis
It was their Ownership
by dwill8brooklynbound on Dec 14, 2011 9:13 PM EST up reply actions
And there's no way we can get revenge unless his agent gets in there...
This all makes sense.
Not to turn this into another Dwightmare thread but this should be placed in this thread too
NYDNInterNets Stefan Bondy
@WojYahooNBA latest story says Dwight believes ownership killed deal, which is in line with what I heard about Otis Smith’s suppressed role
Our deal won't be nearly as good... can only absorb Turk
If we give these guys large deals, we can just trade at deadline. That deal was as good as it gets.
assume $11 million over one for AK, $8 million over one for Hump
That’s 19 million in expiring deals, plus other expiring deals already on the books.
NOW, multiply that by 150% because that is what the new CBA permits you to get in return. Youre at $30 million.
"It's as sweet as it ever was, I'll tell you. Now, hopefully, we started something and we can win some more championships, but we're going to enjoy this one right now. Have a little champagne." --Julius Erving, May 12, 1976, ABA champion Nets locker room.
So how do these deals affect a mid season trade?
If we add that 19 mil or so to the books this year, and want to trade for D12 while taking Hedo back, is that still possible?
Hump would need a 2nd year Team Option
We can’t afford for him to have veto power.
Wouldn't
Kirilenko be in the same boat?
Fire Johnson and hire Van Gundy - I'm telling you Thorn was smoking something when he let Van Gundy slip away in the night.
by diehardNFFLbarnone on Dec 14, 2011 10:52 PM EST up reply actions
Hump, Shawne Williams, and AK will be good signings.
But I want want to see Billy make a small deal for a better wing. Famar + 1st could get us somewhere.
Jersey Strong. Brooklyn Ready. 2012 Nets.
Throw Petro in there..LOL
@ HowardBeckNYT
Deal done, source says. NBA is back.
-November 26th, 3:17 am.
ew...who'd take him.
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by JetsMetsNets on Dec 14, 2011 9:11 PM EST up reply actions
looks like NYK for Shw Williams
now that Jamal Crawford is going west.
"It's as sweet as it ever was, I'll tell you. Now, hopefully, we started something and we can win some more championships, but we're going to enjoy this one right now. Have a little champagne." --Julius Erving, May 12, 1976, ABA champion Nets locker room.
Not if Baron Davis clears waivers
@ HowardBeckNYT
Deal done, source says. NBA is back.
-November 26th, 3:17 am.
clippers?
The realist keepin it real amongst the surrealists
I was in Baghdad before these little B.G.'s was in they daddy-bags.
by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Dec 14, 2011 9:36 PM EST up reply actions
We have to get hump and ak-47 need starters at the 3 and 4
And the magic can go moiso themselves
Jets Nets Mets
Islanders Gators
expiring contracts.
"It's as sweet as it ever was, I'll tell you. Now, hopefully, we started something and we can win some more championships, but we're going to enjoy this one right now. Have a little champagne." --Julius Erving, May 12, 1976, ABA champion Nets locker room.
Only if 1 yr deals.
So they can be moved easily.
But will they accept knowing they r just pawns
Need some D-12
by Mike Viola on Dec 14, 2011 9:08 PM EST via mobile reply actions
That's like asking if you would buy a chick dinner knowing you would never get "it"
Dwight or Bust
Nets lose 33+ games this season.
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that's why we need to overpay them, so they can accept.
DWill all the way to the Finals!! some day, very close...
Like we choices now, just sign them both to what ever they want
Dwight or Bust
Nets lose 33+ games this season.
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1st things first
AMNESTY MOISO’ING OUTLAW ALREADY!
by Jack Handy Jr on Dec 14, 2011 9:08 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
If we get AK
thats a sure thing.
@ HowardBeckNYT
Deal done, source says. NBA is back.
-November 26th, 3:17 am.
by Andy. on Dec 14, 2011 9:09 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
It should be guaranteed no matter what
The fact he hasn’t been yet scares me.
There is NO reason to keep him.
by Jack Handy Jr on Dec 14, 2011 9:12 PM EST up reply actions
it is
"It's as sweet as it ever was, I'll tell you. Now, hopefully, we started something and we can win some more championships, but we're going to enjoy this one right now. Have a little champagne." --Julius Erving, May 12, 1976, ABA champion Nets locker room.
We amnesty him, another sign of Dwight trade
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Then only spend to the salary floor.. 85%
which is about $50m, so we still offer Orlando the most savings.
Sign AK + Hump
1 YEAR DEALS ONLY!
D.Williams / Farmar / Gaines
Morrow / Brooks
AK / D.James
Humphries / J.Williams
Lopez / Sh.Williams / Petro
by Jack Handy Jr on Dec 14, 2011 9:10 PM EST up reply actions
Not happening on any level
who the hell would accept a one year deal, unless its for at LEAST $7 Million.
Dwight or Bust
Nets lose 33+ games this season.
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correct...and so
"It's as sweet as it ever was, I'll tell you. Now, hopefully, we started something and we can win some more championships, but we're going to enjoy this one right now. Have a little champagne." --Julius Erving, May 12, 1976, ABA champion Nets locker room.
We refused to sign the real good players
and now we have to sign a PF worth his money, and a dud at SF? We should try to get more cap space so we can always have our options open.
Dwight or Bust
Nets lose 33+ games this season.
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Get Josh Howard or S Williams too. AK can back up Hump at PF.
Doesn’t look like JWill is ready to contribute yet. God forbid Hump does down, slide AK to start.
No way SheWill beats out Air Petro. Petro is awesome.
"This isn’t fantasy or rotisserie basketball. Why would Denver want Outlaw? Would you?" - Al Iannazzone
by strange-brew on Dec 14, 2011 11:39 PM EST up reply actions
How can we get revenge on those Magic Owners?
Let Dwight walk! Woo!!!
from woj... this pisses me off immensely
Howard told teammates on Tuesday that he thought the trade to the Nets was a "done deal," a league source told Y! Sports. Twenty-four hours later on Wednesday, Howard told them that he was under the impression that "ownership killed it," the source said.
We have to Amnesty outlaw and try to add
Small pieces to the howard deal..,. He’s gunna be pissed now cause he deffinetly wants out so I think it’s only a matter of time now.. And if they dont get him out before he can get the Mac with us it’s not going to be good for Orlando
by BigBlue91 on Dec 14, 2011 9:09 PM EST via mobile reply actions
You'd have to think Dwight is fuming right now
As is his agent. I don’t think it’s in Dwight’s character to pull a “migraine”, but it’s pretty crazy
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"Your 2010-2011 New Jersey Nets - It Is What It Is"
I think this could work in the Nets favor. Patience is the key and luckily BK has shown plenty of that since taking over the reins as GM. Orlando is pushing Dwight to do exactly what many have been asking him to do which is to get upset and force his way out a la Carmelo last year. The Magic are just pissing him off more and more as the minutes tick away, and this is a good thing, IMO.
MOIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIISSSSSSOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO ORLANDO OWNERSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
MOIISSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
In Prokhorov & Billy King WE TRUST.
8 > 3
DH12 OR BUST!
Official Member of the "Travis OutLOL Society". 5 years, 35 Million Dollars worth of lulz.
by Claud on Dec 14, 2011 9:10 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Who wants to cry right now?
raise their hand hand raised
by mstaino1291 on Dec 14, 2011 9:10 PM EST reply actions 7 recs
wow dwight wants here and he can't get here
i’m furious.
Guys, it's not over
Read my FanPost. It’ll be up in a few minutes. Still entirely possible.
I'm bipolar. Just remember to read this before you respond to or read my comments. Someone here forgot to.
@WojYahooNBA Adrian Wojnarowski
Y! Source: Dwight Howard told some Magic teammates on Tuesday that he thought trade to the Nets was a “done deal.”
k how many people are going to post the same thing?
It’s been posted 20 times already.
Section 18, Row 7 at The Rock!
"Your 2010-2011 New Jersey Nets - It Is What It Is"
Let's send Woj's story to ESPN and have them replay it on Sportscenter until Friday
PUT THE PRESSURE ON THEM
I'll retweet it to them
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he can say he won't sign estension, so the Lakers wouldn't agree the trade!
DWill all the way to the Finals!! some day, very close...
yes and no,
Yes, if he’s traded for just Gasol or Bynum, wich might not happen.
And No, if he’s traded for both Gasol and Bynum, so the Lakers would be basically him and an old Kobe that doesn’t complement his game.
I think he prefers him and a younger Dwill, that complements his game.
DWill all the way to the Finals!! some day, very close...
In Prokhorov & Billy King WE TRUST.
8 > 3
DH12 OR BUST!
Official Member of the "Travis OutLOL Society". 5 years, 35 Million Dollars worth of lulz.
Sigh..
Im out… See you on saturday guys!!!
by njason21 on Dec 14, 2011 9:13 PM EST via mobile reply actions
He's willing to sign with LA DAL ORL but prefers NJ... is totally different from trade me to NJ only
kup
He’s done his part. It’s up to Fegan to put the pressure on by Friday or for us not to sign any FA if we think we have the slightest chance.
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Today was brutal
and to know that DWIGHT HOWARD expected to be a Net today, makes me want to puke because it didn’t happen.
Dwights not going to the Lakers people
D Will has been working with BK to get Howard here. They have commited to play here. Fegan has committed to NJ as well. We just have to wait. Maybe its not til March, maybe not til 2012 but D12 will be a Net
by DWILL-of-the-GODZ on Dec 14, 2011 9:14 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
no no no no no no no
you dont know whether deron got a commitment from dwight
fegan didnt commit jack to us fegans committed to his cash.
not saying we arent likely to get dwight but the lakers chances are just as high
Like I said before Yes and No,
Yes, if he’s traded for just Gasol or Bynum, wich might not happen.
And No, if he’s traded for both Gasol and Bynum, so the Lakers would be basically him and an old Kobe that doesn’t complement his game.
I think he prefers him and a younger Dwill, that complements his game.
DWill all the way to the Finals!! some day, very close...
This
is why I think it’ll happen. All parties involved know it’s time to end this. They also know only 1 way to end it, especially after Dwight told his teammates he thought a trade was done.
I'm bipolar. Just remember to read this before you respond to or read my comments. Someone here forgot to.
A few hours of Skyward Sword and an AK47 rumor
And i’m suddently feeling optimistic…
Howard is coming to the Nets. Extend King!
Oh pissing blimey there's jam coming out of the walls!
So now I understand why BK hesitated on signing Nene on Tuesday. He really believed he was going to get Howard.
This makes things even worse.
BK must be so depressed right now.
If Nene would have held out for one more day, the Nets would be trying to finish up their roster now.
patience people
patience.
and for god’s sake actually try to read the board before posting the same tweet over and over lol
As long as we aren’t giving Hump or AK47 multi year deals we’re fine.
good lord
reading that Dwight thought it was a done deal really really stings
- !!!!
here you go again bashing Howard
are you aware he is the most dominant big since shaq? SMH
In Prokhorov & Billy King WE TRUST.
8 > 3
DH12 OR BUST!
Official Member of the "Travis OutLOL Society". 5 years, 35 Million Dollars worth of lulz.
Yes, he MAY be.
But He has more weaknesses than Shaq and Shaq had some glaring ones.
He also, most importantly, does not have the hand skills, the Bball IQ or the FEAROCITY that Shaq had. To me, that makes him meh
by Jron on Dec 14, 2011 9:23 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
NOW you guys want to debate how good he is?
Dwight or Bust
Nets lose 33+ games this season.
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Lol, its simple....He's the best Center and a solid player to start a franchise with
Dwight or Bust
Nets lose 33+ games this season.
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Gordon, Aminou, Kaman and an unprotected 1st rounder for
CPbadknees!!!!!
Got to be kidding me – everyone is insane
THIS IS AS HUMOROUS AS THE NET OFFER TO ORLANDO
Hourly Nets Fan Confidence Poll
"I don't care if you gotta FLY... You bettah have my doughNUTS!"
by jrjr9108 on Dec 14, 2011 9:15 PM EST reply actions 15 recs
This chart doesn't relate to all Nets fans
Dwight or Bust
Nets lose 33+ games this season.
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this is it
we sign kirilenko 1/12 and hump 1/8
roll with williams/morrow/kirilenko/hump/lopez
try to dish for dwight in march
if not, then we just sign him in free agency.
at this point it’s clear he wants to be here.
plus if we can get dwight @deadline
we can either ship the expirings to orlando for bad contracts, or flip them to other teams for assets for dwight
MY HOPE IS BACK
Whoa.... VERY Interesting
WojYahooNBA:
Y! Source: Dwight Howard told some Magic teammates on Tuesday that he thought trade to the Nets was a “done deal.”
We know...
We’re just all talking about this
The first 30 times it was posted here it was interesting then too ;-)
I would hope you would support who we are. Not, who we are not. Coach Norman Dale "Hoosiers"
by dmitchell624 on Dec 14, 2011 9:17 PM EST up reply actions
just playing with you
it is in this thread NUMEROUS times but definitely not 30…
I would hope you would support who we are. Not, who we are not. Coach Norman Dale "Hoosiers"
by dmitchell624 on Dec 14, 2011 9:22 PM EST up reply actions
Was posted 8 times already.
However, the Magic ownership killed the deal shortly after and then Nene signed with your team.
Did Nene actually sign??
one more repost and I'm committing suicide.
jk. =) we know already…it hurts everytime. it’s like winning the megamillion in your dreams and waking up.
If Friday comes and goes
we literally cannot trade for Dwight for 3 months.
Going to be a long season.
Is Friday the last day of free agency or is it Dec 24?
I thought Friday is the last day of Amnesty.
yup
and no one expects them to want to trade till after the All-Star game on Feb. 26.
"It's as sweet as it ever was, I'll tell you. Now, hopefully, we started something and we can win some more championships, but we're going to enjoy this one right now. Have a little champagne." --Julius Erving, May 12, 1976, ABA champion Nets locker room.
DWill/?
Morrow/Brooks
Ak/Shawnee
Hump/shawnee
Lopez/hump
3 FA on 1 year deals. maybe 2 for Shawne
Playoff team but playing Half a season without dwight makes our pick better for Orlando.
I’m loving this
by mb4th on Dec 14, 2011 9:23 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
FANTASY ADVICE
i trade david lee and mo williams and get dorrel wright ed davis and marshon…..should i do it? 16 team league h2h each category
by netsyankees4life on Dec 14, 2011 9:17 PM EST reply actions
well lee is expendable
i all ready have dwight and al jefferson
by netsyankees4life on Dec 14, 2011 9:19 PM EST up reply actions
no david lee could be too valueble
and mo williams is not bad either
1) Dwight Refuses to talk to Media (Yesterday)
2) Nets believe deal is done
3) We let Nene sign with Nuggets
4) We tie up small details of trade
5) Orlando ownership waivers and kills deal…
Talk about a haymaker for our FO.
Wow we got trolled hard by Magic ownership..
Part of me thinks we told Nene “NO” because we thought the deal was done and ORL ownership killed it!
FML!
I bet Dwight is pisssssssssssssssseeeeeeeeeeeeedd
I bet Dwll is pisssssssssssssssssssssssssed too
At least we know he REALLY wants to play for us!
In Prokhorov & Billy King WE TRUST.
8 > 3
DH12 OR BUST!
Official Member of the "Travis OutLOL Society". 5 years, 35 Million Dollars worth of lulz.
What's our move if the Lakers give Bynum and Gasol?
With CP3 to the Clips, the Lakers have to acquire a young superstar to prevent them from taking a turn as the little brother of the city.
So far I think we’ve done a good job at playing our cards. If the Magic tried to alienate Dwight’s preferences and force them to use their cap room, we applied the right counter. We can force them to trade Dwight by the trade deadline now. This also takes the Mavs out of the running.
Unfortunately, what counters the Lakers giving up those two? We might have to give out a lot more than 5 draft picks in order to provide the Magic with a worth second player.
Timeless - The 2001-2003 NJ Nets
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nima3dmLrcw
What's our move if the Lakers give Bynum and Gasol?
Seppuku
I can’t think of anything the Nets could do short of trading DWill that would allow them to acquire the assets to match up with Pau/Bynum.
Oh pissing blimey there's jam coming out of the walls!
by TWilliAM on Dec 14, 2011 9:20 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
if he gets traded to the Lakers our only hope is that HE REALLLLLLLLLLYYY wants Brooklyn and Dwill
In Prokhorov & Billy King WE TRUST.
8 > 3
DH12 OR BUST!
Official Member of the "Travis OutLOL Society". 5 years, 35 Million Dollars worth of lulz.
He's not leaving 30M to come to the Nets
At least, I wouldn’t bank on it.
Oh pissing blimey there's jam coming out of the walls!
well its pointless if he gets traded AFTER dec 31st
In Prokhorov & Billy King WE TRUST.
8 > 3
DH12 OR BUST!
Official Member of the "Travis OutLOL Society". 5 years, 35 Million Dollars worth of lulz.
If Magid drags it till March
We will be forced to thorw one or even both of James/Brook
by Belarus4life on Dec 14, 2011 9:23 PM EST up reply actions
Me
Hump for $8M
AK47 got $5M
Stevenson for $2M
we need another big body IMO
@ HowardBeckNYT
Deal done, source says. NBA is back.
-November 26th, 3:17 am.
WHY do you
want DeShawn Stevenson so bad?
Fire Johnson and hire Van Gundy - I'm telling you Thorn was smoking something when he let Van Gundy slip away in the night.
by diehardNFFLbarnone on Dec 14, 2011 11:00 PM EST up reply actions
It's Howard's fault now.....
All he has to say is that he will ONLY sign an extension with the Nets……Why did he say that he would also sign an extension with Dallas and Lakers ….Does he really want to play here or what…??
OK THERE'S ONE THING EVERYONE CAN AGREE ON
WE NEED TO AMNESTY TRAVESTY OUTHOUSE
I don't think the Lakers do this deal for Dwight
Fisher-Kobe-Peace-Bynum-Pau
vs
Fisher-Kobe-Peace-McRoberts-Howard
I’ve talked to a few people and they all agree that the Lakers don’t improve much (if anything they get worse) and that the two towers inside are better than Howard. This is some Knicks fans too…why would Dwight want to even go there? That’s not a championship team and has no future…
i have cousins who live in san diego
huge laker fans, and they dont want dwight if it cost them both Pau and Drew
THEY LOVE PAU
kobe loves pau too
In Prokhorov & Billy King WE TRUST.
8 > 3
DH12 OR BUST!
Official Member of the "Travis OutLOL Society". 5 years, 35 Million Dollars worth of lulz.
We have to go back to the Magic
Fegan needs to put huge amounts of pressure on the organization. “None of my clients will ever sign with you again”
They really have to go hard at this. By Friday we need deals in place otherwise we can’t amnesty Outlaw.
We have GOT to get this done by Friday. This could take a Dwight “migraine”.
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by eLonepb on Dec 14, 2011 9:19 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
YES this is what i am talking about
Dwight should skip practice tomorrow
and pull migraine till he is traded
Agree with the Fegan thing
He has to make it known they will never have another Fegan client unless they deal him
by dwill8brooklynbound on Dec 14, 2011 9:21 PM EST up reply actions
PLEASE MAKE IT HAPPEN
Dwight needs to say “Nets or nothing”
Fegan needs to say “Give Dwight NJ, or no one will sign here”
BK needs to say " Trade him now or i will make the offer worse"
Magic need to say “ok”
GET THIS DONE!!!
Let me try this again...
No one cares about the CP3 done deal?
It does effect your Howard hype a bit, I figured someone would care…
AK47 and THE HUMPH?
Is this where we are now? AK47, is a little better than Outlaw. AND nobody want THE HUMPH, because they figure his head is screwed up. The NETS know better. THE HUMPH is a good guy, who made a mistake. I would give him a multi-year deal, say 3 for 18M
AK47 I would only give a one year deal, because I think he is done. Maybe if he comes in, in shape, we get get something from him. His numbers last year weren’t wonderful.
But this is where we are, with all the players who were FA this year? I am not impressed with Billy King.
Paul from Sunny Delray Beach, Florida
Rotoworld
This is the second instance of this report being run tonight, but this time with news that it was ownership that killed the deal with Portland. This jives with what Nets reporter Stefan Bondy said earlier, which was the GM Otis Smith had been cut off from the chain of command, at least as it pertained to a potential Howard trade. This also wreaks of Stern and his bandit owners trying to show star players who is boss.
what?
Jersey Strong. Brooklyn Ready. 2012 Nets.
by JetsMetsNets on Dec 14, 2011 9:22 PM EST up reply actions
I must say
I am impressed with the Magic FO. Alot cleverer than I would’ve thought. I can tell you right now Proky and BK are planning ways to get back at them BIGTIME
Nets Mets Giants ALL DAY
it's not the magic FO
dwight even told teammates yesterday his going to the nets was a “done deal” and today said he felt that “ownership killed it”. the magic owners screwed us over F!@# THEM! thats why dwight didnt speak to the media yesterday and nene signed the trade was DONE! but the magic owners had to be like the wilpons and screw us over….
IF We let Nene walk...Fegan was part of that decision, with the belief dwight would have been here within the end of this week. No way this sits well with Fegan either. I am sure he is going to cause a ruckus in orlando.
Unhappy Fegan + Disgruntled Dwight + Instagating DWILL = An early Dwight exit to NJ
yeah
I’m sure that Fegan is probably pissed here.
by MrDollarBills on Dec 14, 2011 9:23 PM EST up reply actions
Fegan will have this done by Saturday
it’s so uncomfortable for everyone that I think even the moiso Orlando ownership knows it’s over, and can’t go on much longer.
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Why do you keep saying Fegan will get this done?
There’s nothing he can do at this point if ORL ownership has some ridiculous notion they can convince Howard to stay long term.
Would AK47 agree to a one year deal?
From what we’ve heard he’s interested in playing in california, hence his interest in the Kings, LA, and LAC. He’s also seeking a three year deal, which is understandable since he’s not getting any young or less injury prone
don't worry fellas and ladies...
…we’re a couple hours away from another Woj tweet hat the deal is back on with Magic ownership blessing.
At this point, anything is possible
Sports is the best reality show ever.
Hopefully
It soundsnto me like we thought we had a deal. They MOISOED our backup plan of Nene so they deserve to pay. Howard should pull a migraine tomorrow.
by dwill8brooklynbound on Dec 14, 2011 9:24 PM EST up reply actions
Howard has to talk to ownership and convince them to trade him. Telling them trade me or I’ll leave is a start, I think this can get done.
Agreed its on Dwight right now
The owner forced him into that corner
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by dmitchell624 on Dec 14, 2011 9:24 PM EST up reply actions
Howard is trying to protect his league wide image
or he can walk into the Magic CEO’s office and say: Enough is Enough, I am going home, call me when the trade to the Nets is done.
I would hope you would support who we are. Not, who we are not. Coach Norman Dale "Hoosiers"
I definitely say yes for Kirilenko...
…on year deal of course. it should keep us a bit competitive at least.
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by GRob1211 on Dec 14, 2011 9:24 PM EST reply actions 13 recs
That gif works even better
If Europe’s “The Final Countdown” is playing behind it.
Oh pissing blimey there's jam coming out of the walls!
great , sign both, + Landry
finally, some sanity
Howard needs to come out and put on the pressure on ownership!
In Prokhorov & Billy King WE TRUST.
8 > 3
DH12 OR BUST!
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OK.... and one more time.
This is about Humph, AK and moving on.
If you are gonna obsess on Howard talk about something relevant like…
BREAKING NEWS > CP3 Trade !!!!!!!!! Hornets win!!!!!!
It's hard to go back to coke
when you’ve had crack.
by head_hunter on Dec 14, 2011 9:25 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
LMAO
wow i’m sorry we are talking about getting AK and Hump, have we really sunk down to lower mediocrity… blueprint for success. we need to be serious here, if I know BK does want to jeopardize but AK isn’t a top pier sf. His soft and always hurt.
The real Orlando Magic
is having awesome centers and watching them disappear for nothing in return
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Woj
Howard told teammates on Tuesday that he thought the trade to the Nets was a "done deal," a league source told Y! Sports. Twenty-four hours later on Wednesday, Howard told them he was under the impression that "ownership killed it," the source said.
im even more upset now then when i first found out trades for dwight were off for now
we were SO CLOSE! but no, we are the Nets and us fans always have to suffer….
Not to worry, my friend
Fegan will storm into ownership’s office and get this done. Also, don’t think Dwight didn’t tell Deron, and Deron passed it along to BK. BK probably went to Fegan, and they’re ganging up on ownership.
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Screw this we lost our season lets get Howard baby
LETS GO NETS
from my understanding magic ownership nixed the trade because they were not ready to part with dwight not because they didnt like the offer
A mix of both
"We're not there yet, but we're going somewhere," Johnson said. "And we're going to Brooklyn. We're not going to contract. We're going to Brooklyn."
remember denver preffered our deal
and wound up taking the knicks
Jersey Strong, Brooklyn Ready
by BrettGardnerLF on Dec 14, 2011 9:28 PM EST up reply actions
The Knicks sweetened the pot
"We're not there yet, but we're going somewhere," Johnson said. "And we're going to Brooklyn. We're not going to contract. We're going to Brooklyn."
Mozgov?!!!
Does Orlando want Petro?:
In Prokhorov & Billy King WE TRUST.
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Petro was supposed to take Petro
but honestly BK needs to find another team.
Do the Wolves like Lopez?
I don't think they will
Fans and Kobe will be pissed.
yeah its a shame he couldn't trade for DWill last year.....
oh wait……
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by dmitchell624 on Dec 14, 2011 9:26 PM EST up reply actions
Dwight and la have to be turned off to a Bynum/Gasol deal
Leaves the cupboard sooo bare.
And Dwight doesn’t want to be a shaw clone
by mb4th on Dec 14, 2011 9:26 PM EST via mobile reply actions
My thoughts on LA is simple
It sounds great saying you get to play with Kobe but its Kobe’s team and Kobe’s ball. In NJ its Deron’s ball to pass to Dwight that is a big difference to me.
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by dmitchell624 on Dec 14, 2011 9:28 PM EST up reply actions
I think he would go if dealt obviously
But Dwight wants his own legacy not to be in Shaq’s shadow why he wants BK among many things what I believe WOJ wrote a day ago.
"We're not there yet, but we're going somewhere," Johnson said. "And we're going to Brooklyn. We're not going to contract. We're going to Brooklyn."
so in LA he would be in both Shaq and Kobe's shadow then
Brooklyn is waiting for Dwight.
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by dmitchell624 on Dec 14, 2011 9:31 PM EST up reply actions
Guys. I've only just heard
Howard told teammates on Tuesday that he thought the trade to the Nets was a “done deal,” a league source told Y! Sports. Twenty-four hours later on Wednesday, Howard told them he was under the impression that “ownership killed it,” the source said.
by mb4th on Dec 14, 2011 9:27 PM EST via mobile reply actions
I can't see Dwight starting the season in Orlando after this mixup
I hope Fegan, Howard, King put pressure on Orlando ownership to get this deal done again, and quickly. We can’t let LAL get in on the bidding.
by Tylerguy42 on Dec 14, 2011 9:27 PM EST via iPhone app reply actions
I agree
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by dmitchell624 on Dec 14, 2011 9:33 PM EST up reply actions
So how does this work?
I just push you or do I just make a video to make a GIF? :-P
Dwight or Bust
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I cannot figure out ....
What the moiso is so great about Bynum (who when not hurt isn’t that good anyways) and Gasol (Who is old and has a big contract)….I just don’t understand it…….
Wow so with the new 150% rule
we could take back some SERIOUS contracts from ORL at the deadline.
I like.
Yes the Nets can
Which is why I strongly believe this deal with happen at some point.
Anyone still want BKs head
Like eLone pointed above, the events that transpired yesterday were due to Nets camp and Dwights camp being confident the deal was going to get done. This is solely up to Martins and the rest of Orlando ownership who are obviously still in denial. At this point Billy and Fegan need to find a way to put pressure on the Magic.
by djeterfan on Dec 14, 2011 9:29 PM EST via mobile reply actions
What move did you want?
Nene, seriously Nene? You wanted Nene really bad? Nene?
He ends up a Net if he wants to
But if LA ever comes to the table with Gasol and Bynum, that’s where he’s headed, without a doubt. Let’s see what transpires.
by djeterfan on Dec 14, 2011 9:33 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I think they will put the pressure on
big time. I don’t think the Dwight-Orlando magic relationship can go on much longer. Too much got out to the media, which is a good thing for us.
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Now that we've seen the deal...
Is it really—worth all of that. I wonder what happens before Friday.
if he really pushes it he will be no doubt
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by dmitchell624 on Dec 14, 2011 9:30 PM EST up reply actions
Bring some reading material, there is going to be a long line.
Oh pissing blimey there's jam coming out of the walls!
MagicJohnson Earvin Magic Johnson
The Clippers are a serious contender to win the west w/ @cp3.
@ HowardBeckNYT
Deal done, source says. NBA is back.
-November 26th, 3:17 am.
I don't think that's crazy
CP3 may have bad knees, but for now he can still play at an MVP level or something near that, especially with Blake Griffin around.
Gotta think a lot of the older teams in the West will really suffer or tank games this year, to rest their bodies
agreed
I think it’s the year of the young dogs… OKC, Memphis, LAC. LA and Dallas will suffer on their back-to-back-to-backs
by sheepareevil on Dec 14, 2011 9:35 PM EST up reply actions
yep just a week ago they only had Blake and a non playoff team and now are a contendor us on the other hand.....
Atleast NO wanted to trade Paul, Dwight is playing the good guy role and Orlando thinks they could keep him..
Nets will be royally embarrassed by losing Shawne Williams to the Knicks.
We can’t even get our C choices to sign with us.
Nets shouldn’t be playing for cap space in 2012.
If they do that, then they will have even more cap space when DWill leaves.
YES THEY SHOULD
if we dont have cap than we cant sign dwight outright.
We need to keep cap flexibility to keep pressure on the Magic.
Dwight will be traded by the deadline.
Noone will take him unless he agrees to re-sign or extend for another year.
He is NOT going to be a FA.
BK can’t be that naive.
SWill decision should be coming before a Hump or AK signing.
How much has Shawne played at PF vs. SF during his limited NBA career?
It really wouldn't be that big of a deal
it would just be assumed that he wanted to go back there because he liked his role there, and had a good relationship with everyone there.
by JerseysFinest. on Dec 14, 2011 9:33 PM EST up reply actions
I absolutely hate everything about the Magic ownership. You had 2 HOF centers, Tmac, Hardaway and still could not win a championship. We’ve had far superior players over the years and have the same amount to show for our efforts. Suck it up and don’t make the mistake of gift wrapping LA (the team that capitlized off your last moiso up) another few championships. I hope he leaves at the end of the year and they get stuck with absolutely nothing. They don’t want brook? we’ll take him and his 20 pts and offensive arsenal AND your all-star C next year then.
Orlando must realize that by dragging this on ONE MORE DAY they will not be able to unload duhon or turkoglu.
If they are smart, they accept this trade because this offer will not be on the table come Friday
AK47 vs Outlaw
I looked at both their stats. AK47 has been a career 11 point and 5 rebound guy. Outlaw scored 9 and pulled down 4 rebounds a game last year. The only thing is that AK47 shot way better, so his points came on way fewer shots. Is AK47 a better defensive player than Outlaw? Is this what we will be stuck with? Well, at least he knows DWILL very very well. Maybe it helps keep DWILL? But if this is the best Billy King and Proky can do, well……
Paul from Sunny Delray Beach, Florida
The difference is
AK47 has a clue how to play basketball
by BennyandtheNets on Dec 14, 2011 9:34 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah but Outlaw knows how to get the better contract ;-)
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by dmitchell624 on Dec 14, 2011 9:35 PM EST up reply actions
well of course but he has some talent and something to offer
what did Outlaw bring to the Nets? ;-)
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by dmitchell624 on Dec 14, 2011 9:37 PM EST up reply actions
yea
taking on their just awful contracts is gonna suck
"It's never out of reach when you got the queen on the board, and thats Andy Reid" - Mike Vick
ONE GAME AT A TIME
speaking of Gil
do the Nets still get him?
by JerseysFinest. on Dec 14, 2011 9:34 PM EST up reply actions
Plan B is to get the other Dwight.
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by GRob1211 on Dec 14, 2011 9:33 PM EST reply actions 5 recs
Hornets got 2 deals done
And cp3 has been less vocal
by mb4th on Dec 14, 2011 9:34 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Because he hasn't been vague
He hasn’t left the door open that he might stay in NO, he’s leaving. Period.
Im giving this one more day
If I wake up in the morning, and I see “Nets, Magic reengaged in talks” Then come home too
“Magic kill deal”, I will go on a mass killing spree
SIGN KIRILENKO AND HUMP TO ONE YEAR DEALS NOW!!!!
if orlando changes their minds, we can still deal the expirers to them or to someone else in a multi-teamer!! this is literally perfect!! sign them now!! we don’t even have to wait!!
owners wont trade Dwight until the deadline
if they do take New Jerseys deal they must hope the nets bomb out long enough so their pick is around 17 and the magic finish around 13 and then they would trade the two for one of the top 3 picks
reaching but that seems to be another angle they may want
The realist keepin it real amongst the surrealists
I was in Baghdad before these little B.G.'s was in they daddy-bags.
by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Dec 14, 2011 9:35 PM EST reply actions
Both of those teams
Can suk it GO DEVILS
by Special_Delivery on Dec 14, 2011 9:47 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions 1 recs
I think this all just to keep the media off of them.
Honestly, I think the whole “taking Howard off of the market” is to get the media out of there. The rumors were getting out of hand and no one wants that. I still feel like we’re in for good news. I think this is going to take us all by surprise fairly soon. Hang tight! Stay positive. If not, I’m coming back to Jersey tomorrow from school and I’ll meet you guys at the Brooklyn Bridge, or GW, whichever one is higher.
No Rip Hamilton
SpearsNBAYahoo Marc J. Spears
Bulls announce signing of Rip Hamilton.
no anyone
Jersey Strong, Brooklyn Ready
by BrettGardnerLF on Dec 14, 2011 9:37 PM EST up reply actions
do we at least still have any cheerleaders left or did Denver and the other teams sign them too
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by dmitchell624 on Dec 14, 2011 9:38 PM EST up reply actions
Dwight needs to say I will only sign with the nets
I have to say it, but for or sake, he must pull a melo and get this thing over with.
by i says on Dec 14, 2011 9:38 PM EST via iPhone app reply actions
see that made me happy
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by dmitchell624 on Dec 14, 2011 9:38 PM EST up reply actions
its too bad there roster currently
is lightyears ahead of ours
Jersey Strong, Brooklyn Ready
by BrettGardnerLF on Dec 14, 2011 9:39 PM EST up reply actions
moiso knicks
even though they do have a much better roster than we do. i’d hate to admit it but their frontcourt of chanlder amare and melo is nasty and with bibby they will at least have a serviceable guard.
Spears
NBA free agent point guard Baron Davis out “several weeks” with a back injury, his agent Todd Ramasar tells Yahoo! Sports.
haha baron trying to double dip..nice strategy lmao
Chris Sheridan Never Fails to Show How Dumb He is
His article is so bad.. he does not know basketball.. at all:
Guy is a moron, his ideas make me laugh more than the extremely funny Fake Prokhorov
http://www.sheridanhoops.com/2011/12/14/sheridan-on-chris-paul-trade-no-winners-only-losers/
Hey Sheridan
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by GRob1211 on Dec 14, 2011 9:42 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
I want to hear WOJ reporting that Dwight is mad and won't practice anymore lol
In Prokhorov & Billy King WE TRUST.
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That would be worse than the Melo situation
almost as bad as LeBrons decision (ok not that bad but pretty bad)
Nets Mets Giants ALL DAY
Bad for who?
If he refuses to report, he’ll end up a Nets sooner rather than later.
I predict the following next tweet tonight
“League sources inform Y! that Nets are still pursuing trade options for Dwight Howard, should the Magic lift trade ban”
And I think we might even see another proposed deal leak out by Friday.
But by Friday, we probably will have signed Hump, AK and maybe Shawne Williams to deals they don’t deserve per year, but only 1 year.
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"Your 2010-2011 New Jersey Nets - It Is What It Is"
Everybody say it with me
MIGRAINE MIGRAINE MIGRAINE
by dwill8brooklynbound on Dec 14, 2011 9:45 PM EST up reply actions
Its already been used
I vote for Explosive Diarrhea
Dwight or Bust
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by Shameer1016 on Dec 14, 2011 9:47 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
whoo caressss about nene like seriously they caused us nene
i thank god we didnt get him like seriously he is 30 years old who avareges 14-7 and got near the max what ever you guys are on i want some
The reason you think he's nothing.
Is because you don’t know how to judge a basketball player outside of looking at points rebounds and assists.
he's far from nothing
but he’s also far from dwight
who said he is nothing???? readdddd
i just dont think he is near the money he is worth
"Talks aint dead" says Otis Smith
The Magic just want more. So get that 4th team and get things done already.
more????
i would just bangcock him if i was billy king
the same that said he didn't want old players on bad contracts
but will take Pau?
In Prokhorov & Billy King WE TRUST.
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DH12 OR BUST!
Official Member of the "Travis OutLOL Society". 5 years, 35 Million Dollars worth of lulz.
thats why Kobe will do anything to keep Pau in LA
Look at their line up if they trade for D12, Kobe D12 Turk Metta Blake Fisher etc they wont pass second round.
by Aidar Berlinbayev on Dec 14, 2011 9:57 PM EST up reply actions
I don't think that ORL wanting more is different from the ownership's stance
They want more, let’s figure out a way to give them more.
That's not what he said
He was asked if it was true that talks were dead. And he didn’t say yes, he basically said they would continue talking to other teams but that doesn’t mean they’ll do anything. And that Dwight is in a Magic uniform until he’s not.
Section 18, Row 7 at The Rock!
"Your 2010-2011 New Jersey Nets - It Is What It Is"
Magic come to NJ in Feb 22
If there’s still no trade by then, you guys need to get the whole arena chanting to Dwight to speak his mind or demand a trade now
D12 needs to speak to Melo, or maybe allow his agent do the work from here on out.
Of course he can push himself out.
He can ask them one last time nicely to take the deal, or announce via channels that he’s not signing extension with anyone but the NETS.
If he’s traded after 1/1, he wont get anymore money to be traded anyway.
Is anyone else so worn out by this story
That they just press “Z” until they see one of these 3 things?
1) A quote box
2) Net Income post
3) Gif or other pic
by Anthony Perez on Dec 14, 2011 9:47 PM EST reply actions 28 recs
I'm so worn out
I sometimes press "C’ and dont even realize that I keep going through the same comments.
@ HowardBeckNYT
Deal done, source says. NBA is back.
-November 26th, 3:17 am.
Can't press z on a phone
And how did NI become god all of the sudden? Where was I?
by mb4th on Dec 14, 2011 9:54 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
He's not God
But when he says something there’s a bit more weight.
by Anthony Perez on Dec 14, 2011 9:57 PM EST up reply actions
Sure, lets go with that.
Dwight or Bust
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by Shameer1016 on Dec 14, 2011 10:06 PM EST up reply actions
The life of a Nets fan. Enough said.
by TheOnlyNetsFaninMD on Dec 14, 2011 9:47 PM EST reply actions
Sign AK/Hump/Shawne Williams
We need to show Otis we’re willing to just sign Dwight out right in the off season. Otis doesn’t really have much leverage. If he doesn’t trade Dwight, they lose him for nothing and they a terrible draft pick because he carries them to the playoffs. The options are trade him to the Nets or the Lakers. Let him walk to the Nets or the Mavs. Threatening to wait until the trade deadline is just dumb.
It kills me that a deal was so close that it could have been approved by Magic management.
I just want to go somewhere and scream.
I can’t handle this bull; I wish i could just fast forward to January and see what’s going on,
I hear ya...
This is torture because I wake up each morning this week dying for news about Dwight. Sad to think that this could go on until March…although if we get him then, it will have been worth it all.
by TheOnlyNetsFaninMD on Dec 14, 2011 9:50 PM EST up reply actions
Is that like missionary or doggy?
Dwight or Bust
Nets lose 33+ games this season.
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by Shameer1016 on Dec 14, 2011 10:05 PM EST up reply actions
So its magic ownership
Who killed the deal! wow to think we should all be on a super high right now waiting to see dwight and deron on saturday…. :-( im sad now..goodbye
by 1stnamelastname on Dec 14, 2011 9:49 PM EST reply actions
Billy is earning his paycheck
unlike Outlaw
"Success is peace of mind which is a direct result of self-satisfaction in knowing you did your best to become the best that you are capable of becoming." - John R. Wooden
by D Will to Succeed on Dec 14, 2011 9:51 PM EST reply actions
WIth all the attention diverting from CP3 to Dwight, Dwight will get more pressure from national media.
He won’t be able to take media hits till march…he will get traded. It was day 3 of rumors over the weekend and he was already snapping at local reporters…wait till the national spotlight completely surrounds him. CP3 and the league have been the big story this entire week…THis should get really interesting
Myself and elone have tweeted
#FREEDWIGHT at Dwight on twitter.
We have enough twitter users here where he will see the trend. Everyone tweet #FREEDWIGHT and #NETS…why the hell not.
LEGGO
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by YoungMoney24 on Dec 14, 2011 9:54 PM EST up reply actions
not another wasted season
billy king can’t ruin another season waiting on other teams’ front offices. last year was all about melo, don’t make this year all about dwight. if dwight wants to be here let him opt out after the season and come here.
He got Deron
Season was not wasted. If the same thing happens twice, season not wasted.
Question (I saw a Schrute picture up top):
If the Nets were to sign Humphries, Kirilenko and Extra E (or another depth player) to one-year deals, do you think they’d make the playoffs?
I do. I’d say a seven or eight seed.
They'd be in the playoff race
but not good enough for the playoffs. Your bigs are still weak outside of Hump and Brook, and the fragile and old AK is your only proven perimeter defender
I think it relies on heavily on how much better Brook has gotten
Has working with Hakeem helped him? Has he gotten bigger? Has he proven he is an all star and the second best player in the league?
If Brook can be a much need star player, we can definitely make the playoffs, assuming we stay healthy.
The trade deadline is March 15.
But has it been confirmed that there is only a 60 day waiting period to trade a FA (instead of 90 days).
In that case, there is still time to trade for Dwight in late Feb., early March..
LuvMyBr0wn_Skin I’m her!
If I was @DwightHoward I would haul ass out of Orlando…these fans ain’t loyal!! Smh
DwightHoward Dwight Howard
@
@LuvMyBr0wn_Skin dang y u sayin that
LuvMyBr0wn_Skin I’m her!
@
@DwightHoward they on here being so negative towards what you choose to do with your career….they ain’t loyal! Lol
DwightHoward Dwight Howard
@
@LuvMyBr0wn_Skin it’s cool. U can’t make everybody happy.
AK, Hump, SWill, JHoward
Get them all and lets roll into the playoffs. We can do it with that…while we wait to get D12. We will get D12!
Just going to add this right now.
If L.A. does trade for Dwight, he’d still become a free agent to get the best possible contract (same with Brooklyn). And during that free agency, the Nets would be sure to show him why a younger team with all of its pieces intact would be preferable to an L.A. team with an older Kobe and no Pau/Bynum. So even at that point, don’t lose all hope.
Is Chris Sheridan a real life troll?
like seriously…if it was troll hunting season i’d go bag him
We need Bynum to go out with an injury during preason
Magic would pull the trigger on the Howard trade immediately.
"The trade that usually happens is the one you never hear about" - Net Income
i still think it gets done preseason
just my gut feeling, no LINKS NO SOURCES, wait i do have a source, my gut
pls no ak.
id like djames 2 get mins. n i like shawne williams. he should b what outlaw should have been. tweener w/ decent defense and a shot
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