Howard: "Trade Me or Lose Me"
by Net Income on Dec 14, 2011 5:19 PM EST
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In an updated version of his story on the collapse of the Dwight Howard talks, Adrian Wojnarowski writes that Dwight Howard has warned the Magic that unless they trade him, they will lose him for nothing, in effect reminding the franchise of what happened 15 years ago when Shaquille O'Neal left Orlando without compensation.
"Howard has warned the Magic if they don’t move him by the March 15 trade deadline, they’ll lose him for nothing in free agency," wrote Woj. "Howard told the Magic again on Wednesday that he wanted a trade, a league source said". Woj quoted a source as saying, "Dwight’s not a happy camper."
Apparently, the Nets offer was rejected by Magic ownership.
Woj also added details on the Nets offer. New Jersey would have sent Brook Lopez, Gerald Wallace, Jordan Farmar and a first-round draft pick to Orlando. The Nets also would have taken on Chris Duhon and Hedo Turkoglu. The Blazers would have received four draft picks for Wallace. Sam Amick said that Johan Petro was also headed for Orlando.
While the Nets and Magic could open talks again, time is of the essence. The Nets must starting adding to their roster...and their cap space...in the next few days and make a decision on waiving Travis Outlaw. Already, Ken Berger tweets, the Nets have begun talking to Kris Humphries.
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DWIGHT OR BUST
"Some things you just can't question. Like you can't question why two plus two is four. So don't question it, don't try to look it up. I don't know who made it, all I know is it was put in my head that two plus two is four. So certain things happen. Why does it rain? Why am I so sexy? I don't know." - Shaquille O'Neal
by CinnamonToastCrunch on Dec 14, 2011 5:22 PM EST reply actions 14 recs
HAVE YOU READ CP3 got traded to Clips now the lakers must be scared and turn to HOWARD
and leav us with fingers on our mouth with gasol and bynom offer man im so scared right now
i just feel like i'm on an emotional... ride of some sort!
by sheepareevil on Dec 14, 2011 5:38 PM EST up reply actions
My brains numb
My attachment to this team has me felling lost . Want Dwight so bad but will live if we don’t get him .
Why do our trades have to go down like this.
by Zartan on Dec 14, 2011 8:27 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
So What's The Next Move(s)?
I think they have to go ahead and amnesty Outlaw, right? Given this information, at least it appears as though a trade of Howard is imminent. It’s hard to imagine the Magic getting a better deal than that. Do you guys think Bynum + Pau trumps this proposed package?
Do you guys think Bynum + Pau trumps this proposed package?
Ask Otis Smith. Ask Mitch Kupchak.
If it was me? I’d take the Lakers offer. Talent over cap space any day of the week. Teams usually rebuild as a last resort.
Oh pissing blimey there's jam coming out of the walls!
I think that deal Trumps ours as well
But it doesnt seem like the lakers are willing to part with both. Let’s hope that they don’t change theuir minds
by bettacalltyrone on Dec 14, 2011 5:26 PM EST up reply actions
How are those players
(one is old, the other one often injuried ) better than our offer?
excuse my bad english please
Old?
Guys like Gasol tend to age very well and Bynum… well, he’s a better player than Brook even when he’s hurt.
Oh pissing blimey there's jam coming out of the walls!
disagree with that second second statemen
bynum doesnt put up 20 a game consistently. And i know lopez has the ability to rebound, he was just running to the offensive end more so he couldnt grab the booards. but he’s huge and can rebound the ball
plus lopez is younger, cheaper, not injury prone, and is a classy gentlemen. bynum is classless (ask jj barea)
by Prash Ramani on Dec 14, 2011 5:35 PM EST up reply actions
I might take Lopez over one of them
over Bynum because of his injuries
and over Gasol because of his age
But you would be a fool to choose Lopez over both of them
by bettacalltyrone on Dec 14, 2011 5:36 PM EST up reply actions
You can disagree
But that doesn’t mean Otis Smith does… and he’s the only one that matters.
Oh pissing blimey there's jam coming out of the walls!
Age obviously isn't an issue
They jus resigned J-Rich.
I like Brook i really do but alot of fans are being homers with how good he really is or can be.
Gasol really is indicative of Lopez ceiling. And Bynum when healthy is the closest thing to dwight there is in the league.
by bettacalltyrone on Dec 14, 2011 5:35 PM EST up reply actions
Only when it comes to...
physical size and skin tone.
T O' NY
This is not a deal about equivalent talent as much...
as it is about allowing for flexibility and the chance to reboot on the fly. Gasol is 31 and a softer player than Lopez. Bynum is injured frequently, though arguably the best two-way player of the three bigs. The difference is Orlando takes on $33MM of salary with just those two guys, gets drastically older and has to move Hedo plus someone else to bring the deal into financial parameters allowed under the CBA. D-12 and Hedo are at $27MM for this season. Factor in the dip in production from both Pau and Bynum compared to what they did in LA, the lack of reliability from both compared to Lopez, the amount of money that stays on their books and the absence of decent draft picks coming back, if any at all, and it is abundantly clear that LA’s best offer does very little for Orlando two years after this trade. Lopez is cheap, has NEVER MISSED A GAME (despite mononucleosis summer of 2010 and calcium deposits in his shoulder), shoots 80% from the free throw line and is a 20 ppg scorer. If I have to lose the best big in the game, I at least want to get back someone who is cheap, has tremendous upside (and demonstrated it) and PLAYS every game.
T O' NY
Very Nicely Put
So hopefully Otis will see the light and pull the trigger to the nets
by bettacalltyrone on Dec 14, 2011 8:41 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah
We just don’t know.
I’ve said this a thousand times, but it bears repeating… this is no longer in BK’s hands. If the Lakers offer Pau/Bynum and the Magic accept, there is literally nothing the Nets can do. The Nets don’t have the artillery to match those assets.
And if that happens, it’s the second biggest disaster in franchise history.
Oh pissing blimey there's jam coming out of the walls!
salary cap
do you know if the magic can take on bynum and gasol’s contract?
That's why BK has to get it done now
BEFORE the Lakers change their mind. Go to Otis and ask him what ownership wants in the deal, and do it.
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Except the Lakers aren't offering it...
… though that could change by the deadline.
I know, but
if they fail with CP3 yet again, they might say moiso it, and just cave. Again, that’s why BK HAS to get this done now.
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There's one reason I don't think that trade will happen
Kobe.
He doesn’t want any more shake ups. After what happened to Odom, he won’t let this happen twice.
by ZR on Dec 14, 2011 6:20 PM EST up reply actions
The Lakers won't make that deal
I live in SoCal and listen to a whole bunch of LA talk radio. They really want to get CP3 to combine with Kobe and Bynum. There is no way they will trade both those guys.
Just another Loop on this rollercoaster
Dwight may have forced the Magic’s hand if this is true. But at some point i jus want to get off this ride and enjoy Basketball
by bettacalltyrone on Dec 14, 2011 5:23 PM EST reply actions
Be careful
I’m all for it if Dwight wants to come here, but Otis may well trade him to Mavs or Lakers if pressured. Apparently the Magic FO thinks our package is garbage. I doubt we’re not the only team that’ll take dwight without an extension.
The posture on the Nets offer...
is simply to maintain pressure to keep increasing the assets provided. This latest offer, if accurate, is far more than B-King first floated to Otis, if you will recall.
T O' NY
During the Melo Drama, they got better
"It's as sweet as it ever was, I'll tell you. Now, hopefully, we started something and we can win some more championships, but we're going to enjoy this one right now. Have a little champagne." --Julius Erving, May 12, 1976, ABA champion Nets locker room.
but we are talking about the knicks
the nets are smarter than that.
by Prash Ramani on Dec 14, 2011 5:36 PM EST up reply actions
There is a ceiling...
but I don’t believe it has been reached and, I suspect, nor does Otis. I am sure that B-King has already started sussing out ways to get an extra draft pick or trade exception (or both) to the Magic. The best news, as others have aptly noted, is Howard has clearly stated he wants to be traded to NJ and he will not contemplate staying with the Magic beyond this season, if forced to play this year in Orlando. Nets chances of landing D-12 are looking better than ever, now.
T O' NY
I think it's what you said about BK
He’s trying to find another team to get involved, and give the Magic what they want. He knows the urgency of finishing the job now.
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OTIS IS STUPID!!! I wonder how delusional is he at this point to not realize all these signs. its like a girl dating a guy who abuses her and doesnt seem to see that she has to leave him
by bsblopez on Dec 14, 2011 5:26 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
lol nothings changed with the girl analogies
officially melodrama 2.0
"Some things you just can't question. Like you can't question why two plus two is four. So don't question it, don't try to look it up. I don't know who made it, all I know is it was put in my head that two plus two is four. So certain things happen. Why does it rain? Why am I so sexy? I don't know." - Shaquille O'Neal
by CinnamonToastCrunch on Dec 14, 2011 5:30 PM EST up reply actions
It's not Otis.
It said in the article that the deal reached management and they shot it down.
MarShon Brooks has the dreaded.
"When will we just change the name of 25 of the 30 teams to the Washington Generals?" - Dan Gilbert
I know many of you are just on this thread or the last one
but i posted a new fanpost. feel free to leave any comments and opinions
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It is now up to the Magic's front office to dictate
whether they are rebuilding or retooling.jun any case Otis should be finished.
by marklnj on Dec 14, 2011 5:28 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Finally Howard!!!
In Prokhorov & Billy King WE TRUST.
8 > 3
DH12 OR BUST!
Official Member of the "Travis OutLOL Society". 5 years, 35 Million Dollars worth of lulz.
by Claud on Dec 14, 2011 5:29 PM EST reply actions 5 recs
I'd guess they may get even better offers
Seems like the Lakers are the largest threat. Don’t know how acquiring Paul would impact Net’s pursuit of Howard. I’d think that would cost the Lakers the assets they need to get D12. But it’s possible Orlando has been hoodwinked into believing that Bynum is better than Lopez – which I just don’t understand.
Denver purportedly got a better deal from the Knicks by holding onto Melo for as long as possible. But truthfully, I don’t think Denver really did themselves any favors (pun intended) by not taking the Nets offer. They wound up with Gallinari and a bunch of role players.
I personally prefer Bynum to Lopez
but it’s the ancillary parts to the Nets offer that trumps the Lakers. And I don’t like Bynum and Gasol because of Gasol’s contract. And just Bynum? Lakers would have to get many draft picks from somewhere for me to consider it. That means they would have to trade Pau to a third team that has a lot of draft picks to send Orlando’s way.
2010-2011 = acquire an All-Star via cap space as Thorn himself said
2011-2012 = make the playoffs without hindering future flexibility
2012 off-season = sign the second All-Star
2012-2013 = make a run for the championship
Mission accomplished thus far.
Bynum is fool's gold
Dude is a walking injury report at his YOUNGEST. It’s only going to get worse at his size, weight, and position as he ages.
by Anthony Perez on Dec 14, 2011 6:08 PM EST up reply actions
dude has only finished ONE FULL SEASON IN SIX YEARS
SMH
In Prokhorov & Billy King WE TRUST.
8 > 3
DH12 OR BUST!
Official Member of the "Travis OutLOL Society". 5 years, 35 Million Dollars worth of lulz.
I agree, and if Lopez plays strong, we may be able to keep from taking one of the
two bad contracts coming back. We need Lopez to get 23 and 9
a bunch of role players full stop
"Next year, with a full training camp, I think he can go after that Scott Skiles' record of 30." - Billy King
Hey Net Income
we gotta change that ND poll on the side about the free agency… we didn’t get any lol
Nets Mets Giants ALL DAY
by netsareboss on Dec 14, 2011 5:29 PM EST reply actions 2 recs
I'll post it again here, but Billy HAS to come up with a better offer for Orlando. It wasn't good enough and I agree.
This "shut down" is just a threat I think, or at least a way of removing the cloud of these trades from the team during camp. Hell, Otis came out today after the "shut down" and said he’d be talking to all teams still but that it didn’t mean anything can move.
Add to that, Dwight himself asked for a trade again today (per Woj) and was very unhappy that it didn’t go down.
So that said, we need to do better. All Orlando was getting for the #2 star in the league was Brook Lopez + Gerald Wallace + ONE first round pick. Portland was the team getting 4 to convince them to send GW to ORL.
Billy has to do better and has to do better by Friday. A fourth team involving someone, a better "star" than Lopez for Orlando, something.
Section 18, Row 7 at The Rock!
"Your 2010-2011 New Jersey Nets - It Is What It Is"
its not much worse and in some cases better
than a lot of unhappy stars’ deals.
Brook Lopez is a 23 year old seven footer capable of averaging 25 points a game. That is a rare commodity.
"It's as sweet as it ever was, I'll tell you. Now, hopefully, we started something and we can win some more championships, but we're going to enjoy this one right now. Have a little champagne." --Julius Erving, May 12, 1976, ABA champion Nets locker room.
but he's seen as a better version of Bargniani due to his 6rpg season last year....
They forget he hot 8.1 and 8.7 in his previous 2 years… ugh
In Prokhorov & Billy King WE TRUST.
8 > 3
DH12 OR BUST!
Official Member of the "Travis OutLOL Society". 5 years, 35 Million Dollars worth of lulz.
and the two seasons before he averaged close to 9
"It's as sweet as it ever was, I'll tell you. Now, hopefully, we started something and we can win some more championships, but we're going to enjoy this one right now. Have a little champagne." --Julius Erving, May 12, 1976, ABA champion Nets locker room.
so his regression could be an aberration
or he could be approaching his mean in terms of rebounding skill
The realist keepin it real amongst the surrealists
I was in Baghdad before these little B.G.'s was in they daddy-bags.
by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Dec 14, 2011 5:40 PM EST up reply actions
only regressed in rebounds from 8.1—>8.6.——→6.0
and
Blocks 1.8——→1.7———>1.5
In Prokhorov & Billy King WE TRUST.
8 > 3
DH12 OR BUST!
Official Member of the "Travis OutLOL Society". 5 years, 35 Million Dollars worth of lulz.
13/8/1.8 rookie season
19/8.6/1.7 sophomore season
20.4/6/1/5 last year
always shoots close to 80% from the line, never been injured and only 23 years old/room for improvement.
How is bynum better than him? Bynum is a Noah type player that sure gets you boards and block but make him th number one option on a team like Brook was getting double and tripled teamed and Bynum would moiso himself.
Plus Bynum has a LONG HISTORY of injuries… ugh this is a no brainer for me.
In Prokhorov & Billy King WE TRUST.
8 > 3
DH12 OR BUST!
Official Member of the "Travis OutLOL Society". 5 years, 35 Million Dollars worth of lulz.
by Claud on Dec 14, 2011 5:41 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
That it is
But in this age of sports media we like to judge players on the “what have you done for me lately” scale. Lopez’s rebounding from last season is getting him judged as a flawed player. Brook Lopez is not lacking on talent, and unfortunately because of the team he plays for he’s being constantly dismissed with most mainstream media. I just wish people would take a closer look.
Don't you think that if Orlando wanted the picks...
they would have gotten them instead of Gerald Wallace? They evidently asked for Wallace and Portland, happy to do its part to keep D-12 out of its conference, made Wallace available. Otis is the one regulating these negotiations. The problem is, he is standing on shifting sands, as in those in an hourglass and his time is running out, rapidly.
T O' NY
i agree need to get a better offer to orlando
Brook and 2 first rounders should be a lock. Then you call around the league to try and add to that with a significant player + picks. Whatever you can do to convince orlando that they shouldn’t call the Lakers for Pau + Bynum
FRANKS AND BEANS FRANKS AND BEANS
by lemmetakeutodamovies on Dec 14, 2011 5:45 PM EST up reply actions
whos goin saturday if dwight is there?
I have a fever and the only prescription is D-Will to win!!!
by EdNets on Dec 14, 2011 5:30 PM EST via mobile reply actions
im there regardless
I have a fever and the only prescription is D-Will to win!!!
by EdNets on Dec 14, 2011 5:30 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
i'm busy, but i'm going the 27th no matter who's there
i don’t care if Outlaw, Graham and Petro are starting (though I hope not). last home opener in NJ, wouldn’t miss it!
by sheepareevil on Dec 14, 2011 5:41 PM EST up reply actions
It seems like its on Dwight to really get this kick started. No more telling people through back channels and then changing your stance in public. Pick a stance and DECLARE IT DWIGHT! Do you want to be traded or not?!
Were really stuck here because we need to make moves by Friday to at least field a team to get their butts kicked in MSG on Saturday.
If we go and sign Hump and Williams and/or Landry even to 1 year deals and then Orlando comes and says to us they’re ready to deal, we’re in trouble since the guys we will have just signed cannot be traded til July 1!
I would be willing to bet next month's rent...
that D-12 has made it clear to Otis that he wants to be traded and will not return, prior to all this silliness. The problem is Otis is taking a page out of Ujiri’s playbook by dragging his feet and doing anything he can think of to extort as much from a final trade partner as he possibly can. Unlike last year, though, we know the Nets ARE D-12’s first choice and he will not sign an extension with the Magic, no matter what. I am becoming convinced that the only reason Otis has not been fired after the last few years of GM futility in Orlando is because management wants Otis to take the brunt of the blame for losing him. Recall that D-12 stated he was disappointed/unhappy with the lack of input he felt he had regarding bringing in players and pieces to get the Magic a championship. D-Will has told D-12 that B-King listens to D-Will and follows through on his suggestions.
T O' NY
I don't think this one is on Otis
It’s on Orlando ownership.
by ZR on Dec 14, 2011 9:32 PM EST up reply actions
Timeline
Let’s presume Otis Smith is a bastard about this and hangs onto Howard at least until the trade deadline. Then what do the Nets do now? Can they put together a decent line-up now and still preserve the flexibility to possibly trade for Howard or sign him next summer? Or is this an eithe or situation?
Well, if Dwight really did say that to them
It’s a foregone conclusion that they need to trade him. Still, they don’t need to rush it, especially if their end game is to get the Lakers back involved and drive the price up. Orlando is really waiting on LA to offer both their big men (why they would do that and give Orlando fans Shaq 2.0 is beyond my understanding)
Bynum can walk out in 2 years. Gasol can’t carry a team without another star.
Just doesn’t make sense
by domininaldo1981 on Dec 14, 2011 5:32 PM EST reply actions
Odds are that if Magic waits hoping to get Pau and Bynum...
Bynum will have injured himself, yet again.
T O' NY
which one
the average tv analyst or the average coach
by mightymosdefinition on Dec 14, 2011 5:35 PM EST up reply actions
Now Otis is blaming
ownership.
LOL
ALL MY MAGIC CHILDREN!!!!by SIC One on Dec 14, 2011 5:33 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
We could have had Wallace last year for 1 pick
And diaw(whos now expiring)
Fuuuuuuuu
by mb4th on Dec 14, 2011 5:33 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Who cares
that’ll be their problem.
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If we have Dwight, I could care less about one pick
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So?
You have to do it, and do it now. You know how confident I am, but my one worry is that if we wait until the deadline, the Lakers might get back involved if they don’t land CP3. It’s Dwight NOW or bust.
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Could have had Beasley for a 2nd round pick.
Timeless - The 2001-2003 NJ Nets
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nima3dmLrcw
fufufufufuffufuu
In Prokhorov & Billy King WE TRUST.
8 > 3
DH12 OR BUST!
Official Member of the "Travis OutLOL Society". 5 years, 35 Million Dollars worth of lulz.
not directed at gmjigga btw
In Prokhorov & Billy King WE TRUST.
8 > 3
DH12 OR BUST!
Official Member of the "Travis OutLOL Society". 5 years, 35 Million Dollars worth of lulz.
why would you want beasley
i saw him in person at last years game and he just another j.r. rider derick coleman
i will pass
by mightymosdefinition on Dec 14, 2011 5:37 PM EST up reply actions
This man really wants to retire a Brooklyn Net
and when we get him either via trade or FA, we’re all going to be so grateful for it. He will turn this franchise around.
by cosmic convict on Dec 14, 2011 5:34 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Magic's FO
Ur killing me!! __
LinaBina
by HumphriesNo1Fan on Dec 14, 2011 5:34 PM EST via mobile reply actions
I suggested the Duhon- Farmar swap for Orlando
"This isn’t fantasy or rotisserie basketball. Why would Denver want Outlaw? Would you?" - Al Iannazzone
I think this might actually be better for the Nets
if (when) the season starts and dwight isn’t traded we would be the only team fighting for dwight.
LA is still championship contender and they don’t want the drama surrounding them..Kobe has already expressed his feelings of not wanting any trades.
METS JETS NETS LAKERS........... OFWGKTA....FREE EARL. Odd Future Records.
Adam Morrison got his team multiple championships barely trying, if that's not a great player...I don't know who is.
lakers front office tend to do want dey want and damn wat kobe say
he himself asked to be traded and Ownership ignored him and kept trying to build a better team
but the ultimate goal is winning a title
the fact is they can contend so are they willing to kill a whole season and deal with the idiot known as Otis Smith?
I don’t think so.
METS JETS NETS LAKERS........... OFWGKTA....FREE EARL. Odd Future Records.
Adam Morrison got his team multiple championships barely trying, if that's not a great player...I don't know who is.
by YoungMoney24 on Dec 14, 2011 5:38 PM EST up reply actions
Maybe Kobe wants to be top dog
Same as shaq was there, kobe had a hard time being #2
by LBJOSH on Dec 14, 2011 6:08 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
that is a good point
FRANKS AND BEANS FRANKS AND BEANS
by lemmetakeutodamovies on Dec 14, 2011 5:47 PM EST up reply actions
I truly hope the magic keep Howard and they lose in the first round AGAIN
Lopez with Howard equals no competition
I guess Woj's boss told him he needed to produce more page clicks / ad revenue eh?
by ap3604 on Dec 14, 2011 5:36 PM EST reply actions
WOJ
updates his articles all the time as does Berger and others.
"We're not there yet, but we're going somewhere," Johnson said. "And we're going to Brooklyn. We're not going to contract. We're going to Brooklyn."
Oh I don't doubt that...
Just that they seem to flip-flop daily in order to get people to click on their speculation “sources say” articles
by ap3604 on Dec 14, 2011 5:38 PM EST up reply actions
I give Woj more benefit of the doubt than that
seems to be one of the few reporters with integrity, him and AI.
by sheepareevil on Dec 14, 2011 5:43 PM EST up reply actions
look at this trade magic fans proposed
by netsyankees4life on Dec 14, 2011 5:36 PM EST reply actions
i think it was a joke?
METS JETS NETS LAKERS........... OFWGKTA....FREE EARL. Odd Future Records.
Adam Morrison got his team multiple championships barely trying, if that's not a great player...I don't know who is.
by YoungMoney24 on Dec 14, 2011 5:39 PM EST up reply actions
Its a good thing next years draft will be stacked
Helps King get another team involved.
"We're not there yet, but we're going somewhere," Johnson said. "And we're going to Brooklyn. We're not going to contract. We're going to Brooklyn."
surely you can get someone more attractive than gerald wallace with 4 1st rounders
by jackbauerwillsmashurface on Dec 14, 2011 5:37 PM EST reply actions
FisolaNYDN Frank Isola
Jamal Crawford has ruled out the Knicks….. “Shawne Williams please pick up the white courtesy phone.”
MarShon Brooks has the dreaded.
"When will we just change the name of 25 of the 30 teams to the Washington Generals?" - Dan Gilbert
more proof that players will go to the team that's offering them the most money
99 times out of 100, that’s the case
2010-2011 = acquire an All-Star via cap space as Thorn himself said
2011-2012 = make the playoffs without hindering future flexibility
2012 off-season = sign the second All-Star
2012-2013 = make a run for the championship
Mission accomplished thus far.
I CAN'T TAKE THIS ANYMORE
I’M GOING INSANE!!!! ALL THE UPS AND DOWNS GAHHHHHHHHHH
March 15 my left nut!
Trade me by JANUARY 1ST, or else I’ll pretend like I’m staying, then walk away in the summer to return the favor.
Dwight needs to get paid, only way to get the best deal is to be dealt before January. I don’t see why he would pressure them from Jan 2 to March 15. He is better off letting his new team keep their assets.
Yeah Dwight should say trade me before the season or not at all because I’m leaving
by CStanley028 on Dec 14, 2011 5:42 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Don't know if ESPN is updated
but it says Magic took Howard off the trade block. Are they calling his bluff?
Nets Mets Giants ALL DAY
I dont even know whats happening
i doubt Howard is really true when he says “trade me by friday or im a free agent”
the Magic control him till the end of the year, he can’t do nothing
Nets Mets Giants ALL DAY
How can you doubt it?
Why would he say that for kicks? He means it. It’s Woj. The only credible reporter we trust(besides Al).
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No he will leave
Its just that the Magic have more than just by Friday to trade him. They have all the way till the deadline
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But now Fegan can step up the pressure for this reason
MONEY. Now that Dwight has forced their hand, Fegan can just say, ‘’trade him by the end of this month to the Nets, or you won’t get anything at all’’. It’s obvious BK/Dwight/Fegan are pushing to get this done now. Too many risks to wait.
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Question about 1 year deals..
If we signed say RJ and HUMP to one year deals, would we still have enough space to make the Dwight trade mid season and take back Hedo?
1 year deals = Hump / RJ can veto any trade to another team...
by ap3604 on Dec 14, 2011 5:40 PM EST up reply actions
RJ cannot be traded
amnestied players picked up by other teams cannot be traded during the season.
"It's as sweet as it ever was, I'll tell you. Now, hopefully, we started something and we can win some more championships, but we're going to enjoy this one right now. Have a little champagne." --Julius Erving, May 12, 1976, ABA champion Nets locker room.
what's going on, nets fans
yeah, i’m a knicks fan, i know, i know…but i just want to be reasonable for a second and say that i hope this nonsense gets resolved sooner rather than later. i’d rather have an intense rivalry in the nyc area than another melodrama like last year, even if it doesn’t involve my team.
so yeah, if he’s asking for it, go get dwight now, billy king! it’d be a great thing for your franchise, as well as a favor to NBA fans everywhere who are as tired of all of this speculation nonsense as you must be. it’s almost as if this league is only as entertaining as the next mega trade, if you listen to the major news outlets.
any team that has a chance at beating miami or boston is a good thing in my mind, even if i’d be completely against you guys when we face up.
"Why does green mean that's the color green? Why can't you say another word for green being green? Know what i'm saying?" - Stephon
by ny knickerbocker on Dec 14, 2011 5:40 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Unfortunately, knicks fan, there won't be much(if any) rivalry at all.
The Nets would be lucky to get to 85 points this saturday……
Good job on your FO in landing Chandler(Tyson, that is).
I would love for that to be the case, man. Really, I would.
But I think this turns out be yet ANOTHER Playoff-LESS year for the Nets. Same old Crap, Different Year.
I’M SICK OF IT!
....
we almost beat them last year, what makes you say we can’t beat them this year?
Nets Mets Giants ALL DAY
I... what.. who....
…you sir are a classy individual. I’m not sure how to respond, as I’ve never actually looked past my Knick hatred before. You certainly don’t represent the majority of the Knicks’ fanbase I’ve encountered.
Dr. J~Super Buck~Draz~JKidd~Deron
to be fair, i'm not located on the front lines of the nets-knicks rivalry anymore, having moved west
but i’ve always thought it would be cool if we were good at the same time for the sake of regional rivalry, and i’m still rooting for that, even if my allegiance is 100% knicks (though honestly, what kind of jerk would half-way root for both of our teams? i mean pick a side, geez.)
"Why does green mean that's the color green? Why can't you say another word for green being green? Know what i'm saying?" - Stephon
by ny knickerbocker on Dec 14, 2011 5:50 PM EST up reply actions
thanks good luck with TC/AMARE/MELO
I think you guys are top 5 in the east if you can get Baron Davis
In Prokhorov & Billy King WE TRUST.
8 > 3
DH12 OR BUST!
Official Member of the "Travis OutLOL Society". 5 years, 35 Million Dollars worth of lulz.
if we add one more legitimate piece, i'd say we're top 5 without a doubt
but now it’s up to you guys to take the magic out of that top 5 and add yourselves though!
"Why does green mean that's the color green? Why can't you say another word for green being green? Know what i'm saying?" - Stephon
by ny knickerbocker on Dec 14, 2011 5:52 PM EST up reply actions
i think both Nets and Knicks fans can agree that a rivalry can only mean great things for the fans of both teams
It was fun kicking your guys’ ass and all during the Kidd years, but we haven’t both been relevant at the same time in forever. hopefully we get the opportunity soon
by sheepareevil on Dec 14, 2011 5:45 PM EST up reply actions
yeah, its kind of amazing how our teams' good years have never lined up
it’s been back and forth as long as i can remember, and that’s a major reason why i think it would be awesome for us to have two of the best teams in the east at the same time.
"Why does green mean that's the color green? Why can't you say another word for green being green? Know what i'm saying?" - Stephon
by ny knickerbocker on Dec 14, 2011 5:46 PM EST up reply actions
the closest we got was the 1st round in 2004
even then it was a sweep. Don’t get me wrong, I enjoyed watching the Knicks shoot themselves in the foot over and over for a decade, but there’s no question they’ll be at least a playoff team for the next few years, so bring on the rivalry.
by sheepareevil on Dec 14, 2011 5:52 PM EST up reply actions
If this is true
and I fully trust Woj so i believe it is, this is huge for us
The magic can no longer go on thinking that they have a chance at retaining Howard in free agency. They need to make a move SOON. and dwight wont get any happier as January 1st approaches.
If they dont trade him they are literally stupid. Legally dumb.
Just as i thought
Typical negoiations. But with Dwight saying this to orlando, our deal may look like the most attractive thing right now.
I grabbed 19 rebounds in my first professional game, and somehow found a way to score 20 points. I felt real good about it. I felt that this was the beginning of something good.
-Julius Erving
they would be DUMB to not take our offer
A great center in lopez, an all star small forward, a solid back up point guard, gaining cap relief, tons of draft picks (next years draft is stacked, not sure about the years after that).
I personally think after doing this trade, if wallace and lopez pann out they could be in contention for a low playoff seed
by Prash Ramani on Dec 14, 2011 5:44 PM EST up reply actions
Another good day for the Nets
I’m not being sarcastic. It’s only a matter of time.
And I’m thrilled that the Nets didn’t blow cap space on this comparatively horrible free agent class.
2010-2011 = acquire an All-Star via cap space as Thorn himself said
2011-2012 = make the playoffs without hindering future flexibility
2012 off-season = sign the second All-Star
2012-2013 = make a run for the championship
Mission accomplished thus far.
At what point today did Dwight say
“trade me or lose me”? Was that before or after the Magic called off the trade talks?
Dr. J~Super Buck~Draz~JKidd~Deron
Woj added it to his article afterwards, but IDK for sure.
MarShon Brooks has the dreaded.
"When will we just change the name of 25 of the 30 teams to the Washington Generals?" - Dan Gilbert
after
he was a practice when they called it off, so i’m sure he found out right after. So I would say, he got done with practice, found out, spoke with media, and afterwards went to their office and said WTF, trade me or lose me!
by domininaldo1981 on Dec 14, 2011 5:44 PM EST up reply actions
glad he spoke up
glad Orlando is willing to let him walk for nothing. the Lopez+Dwight dream remains a possibility
The realist keepin it real amongst the surrealists
I was in Baghdad before these little B.G.'s was in they daddy-bags.
by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Dec 14, 2011 5:44 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
My goodness me!
I would be delirious if we could get both Dwight and Brook. However, I don’t think Magic ownership is so stupid as to forego the chance to restock the larder, as it were. Worst case scenario, the Magic make the trade by the March 15 deadline. From a business perspective, they reap the benefits of D-12’s presence in their lineup for 3/4 of the season and then switch to bragging about how they are building for the future. Now that D-12 has said he will not sign an extension, they no longer need to worry about his ability to get an extra year with his next team.
T O' NY
The larder?
Freudian slip or an accurate representation of Stan Van Gundy who is a Lard-ass?
van gundy is terrible
this goes for both
by mightymosdefinition on Dec 14, 2011 5:45 PM EST reply actions
Portland gives Orl their 1st rounder in 4 odd years
We give Portland our1st in 8 odd Years
Boom.
by mb4th on Dec 14, 2011 5:45 PM EST via mobile reply actions
If we get Dwight..
We’re all celebrating at the bar across from the Rock
by KingofDenial on Dec 14, 2011 5:46 PM EST up reply actions
What kind do you like?
2010-2011 = acquire an All-Star via cap space as Thorn himself said
2011-2012 = make the playoffs without hindering future flexibility
2012 off-season = sign the second All-Star
2012-2013 = make a run for the championship
Mission accomplished thus far.
Actually, you're not of age yet to buy liquor
So sorry. Can’t help you.
2010-2011 = acquire an All-Star via cap space as Thorn himself said
2011-2012 = make the playoffs without hindering future flexibility
2012 off-season = sign the second All-Star
2012-2013 = make a run for the championship
Mission accomplished thus far.
I think Rod Thorn spoiled me
I know he had his mistakes, but he ripped some people off in a few trades. Now all of a sudden I look at Dwill and Dwight, and think of how much we gave/are giving up. Not complaining, just giving credit.
rod thorn made 2 fantastic deals
and coasted the rest of the way
by mightymosdefinition on Dec 14, 2011 5:47 PM EST up reply actions
Potentially it will be Devin Harris, Derrick Favors, Brook Lopez and 7 First Rounders for Deron Williams and Dwight Howard.
I think that’s pretty darn good.
MarShon Brooks has the dreaded.
"When will we just change the name of 25 of the 30 teams to the Washington Generals?" - Dan Gilbert
Does compare to
Aaron Williams, Eric Williams, 2 picks, and the right to buy out Zo for Vince
by KingofDenial on Dec 14, 2011 5:48 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I feel like there's much more "posturing" these days
Twitters allows for easy, immediate leaking of trade offers so that other teams can up the ante. I was kinda young when the Kidd trade went through so I may be wrong, but I get the feeling Phoenix didn’t call every team in the league to see what they could get for Kidd like Otis is trying to do.
by sheepareevil on Dec 14, 2011 5:47 PM EST up reply actions
if you get Dwill and D12
in back to back seasons…coming off a 12 win season..you HAVE to give the GM mad respect
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Adam Morrison got his team multiple championships barely trying, if that's not a great player...I don't know who is.
by YoungMoney24 on Dec 14, 2011 5:47 PM EST up reply actions
Easily the best trade offer Orlando will see
If I was a Magic fan, I would be angry…G Wallace is better than any other member of the current Magic squad besides Dwight. Lopez is a long-term building block and Farmar provides good depth. They’re gambling for no good reason & will lose Dwight while gaining NOTHING!
Lopez now has to step up and prove everyone wrong. He worked out with Hakeem this summer, so let’s see what he can do.
Does any1 understand the Mavs deal
the Rudy + Brewer for 2nd round 2016 pick?
Nets Mets Giants ALL DAY
they clearing up cap space for D WILL according to some peaple here.
by Aidar Berlinbayev on Dec 14, 2011 5:47 PM EST up reply actions
Man
Hopefully King can sort this out by the end of the week
I grabbed 19 rebounds in my first professional game, and somehow found a way to score 20 points. I felt real good about it. I felt that this was the beginning of something good.
-Julius Erving
stan van gundy is my cousin lol
hes married to my cousin so through marrage im related to this guy
by netsyankees4life on Dec 14, 2011 5:46 PM EST reply actions
tell him to give us howard
In Prokhorov & Billy King WE TRUST.
8 > 3
DH12 OR BUST!
Official Member of the "Travis OutLOL Society". 5 years, 35 Million Dollars worth of lulz.
by Claud on Dec 14, 2011 5:47 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
yeah im being serious
its not like i see the guy all the time tho if i did i would make him give us howard lol
by netsyankees4life on Dec 14, 2011 5:48 PM EST up reply actions
Send him a Brook Lopez jersey for Christmas.
MarShon Brooks has the dreaded.
"When will we just change the name of 25 of the 30 teams to the Washington Generals?" - Dan Gilbert
by Maxyboy on Dec 14, 2011 5:49 PM EST up reply actions 5 recs
VAN GUNDY
(jeff) says rather than trading for lopez (he downplays his skill and talent) the magic would be better off waiting for free agency and rolling the dice…
he must have not seen this developement……
He made it seem as if
it was a horrible deal because lopez sucks… basically
by Prash Ramani on Dec 14, 2011 5:47 PM EST up reply actions
remember this is the same fool
who said shane battier for rudy gay was a bad trade for memphis
him as a talent evaluator and a coach are highly questionable
by mightymosdefinition on Dec 14, 2011 5:48 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
it is a bad trade for memphis
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Adam Morrison got his team multiple championships barely trying, if that's not a great player...I don't know who is.
by YoungMoney24 on Dec 14, 2011 5:49 PM EST up reply actions
he means in 2006 when memphis sent shane battier to houston for draft rights to rudy gay
The realist keepin it real amongst the surrealists
I was in Baghdad before these little B.G.'s was in they daddy-bags.
by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Dec 14, 2011 5:51 PM EST up reply actions
him as a human being is highly questionable
by sheepareevil on Dec 14, 2011 5:49 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
LOL
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by YoungMoney24 on Dec 14, 2011 5:50 PM EST up reply actions
Jeff Van Gundy is my least favorite person associated with the NBA
I hate him more than Carmelo and LeBron combined. I really wish he got hired as a head coach instead of Mark Jackson so I wouldn’t have to hear his voice and see his soulless face on TV again.
by sheepareevil on Dec 14, 2011 5:49 PM EST up reply actions
JVG is an idiot
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Adam Morrison got his team multiple championships barely trying, if that's not a great player...I don't know who is.
by YoungMoney24 on Dec 14, 2011 5:50 PM EST up reply actions
his eyes make me feel dead inside
by sheepareevil on Dec 14, 2011 5:53 PM EST up reply actions 12 recs
I'm convinced...
that is just a cardboard cutout.
I typed your symptoms into this thing up here and it says you could have network connectivity problems.
what's the difference?
they’re both soulless
by sheepareevil on Dec 14, 2011 5:55 PM EST up reply actions
That's what I thought too
once it started zooming in. HE DOESN’T EVEN MOVE!
His eyes don’t blink
His mouth doesn’t move
His arms don’t shake
and his hand stays on his crotch the whole time
Def a cutout
Nets Mets Giants ALL DAY
i didn't realize it was possible to both laugh at something and be terrified by it at the same time
get some sleep, jeff…from the looks of it, it’s been a few decades.
"Why does green mean that's the color green? Why can't you say another word for green being green? Know what i'm saying?" - Stephon
by ny knickerbocker on Dec 14, 2011 5:59 PM EST up reply actions
though actually, i guess did the same thing when i watched the larry brown coached knicks
but the laughing was probably just a self-defense mechanism. you guys have been through similar situations, so you know what i mean by that.
"Why does green mean that's the color green? Why can't you say another word for green being green? Know what i'm saying?" - Stephon
by ny knickerbocker on Dec 14, 2011 6:03 PM EST up reply actions
perhaps
you did get to the finals more recently though, so there’s that! but yeah, it’s time for these two franchises to compete, both at the same time and for many years, at the same time.
"Why does green mean that's the color green? Why can't you say another word for green being green? Know what i'm saying?" - Stephon
by ny knickerbocker on Dec 14, 2011 6:06 PM EST up reply actions
man, don't make me talk about outlaw
i don’t want to get banned from your site just because i’m an outsider pouring salt in an open wound. obviously, i don’t need to remind you that the knicks have had their fair share of outlaw-level signings or trades over the past 10 years…on the bright side, eventually he becomes a lucrative expiring contract.
"Why does green mean that's the color green? Why can't you say another word for green being green? Know what i'm saying?" - Stephon
by ny knickerbocker on Dec 14, 2011 6:09 PM EST up reply actions
well hopefully he becomes AMNESTIED by Friday
if that somehow doesn’t happen, expect this place to explode
by sheepareevil on Dec 14, 2011 6:14 PM EST up reply actions
haha, my advice would be to call up amnesty international
and get prokhy to swap him for a human rights prisoner in some siberian prison.
"Why does green mean that's the color green? Why can't you say another word for green being green? Know what i'm saying?" - Stephon
by ny knickerbocker on Dec 14, 2011 6:16 PM EST up reply actions
you seem to be a good representative of NYK
Too bad my black heart is so full of hate for your team…
I will admit that I think you guys did really well on FA signings. I wish you luck… And several knee injuries.
Jet Black Ninja
8 > 3
by NJNM on Dec 14, 2011 8:41 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
In Prokhorov & Billy King WE TRUST.
8 > 3
DH12 OR BUST!
Official Member of the "Travis OutLOL Society". 5 years, 35 Million Dollars worth of lulz.
van gundy is a hater he hates almost every team in the nba
Messi=Team Player
Cr7=Selfish Player
by Nets_LioMessi on Dec 14, 2011 5:52 PM EST up reply actions
Come on Otis give in
now or nothing!! we might be better off signing DH in the summer
Wait so does Otis want this deal to go through...
And the Magic ownership does not?
its ownership now
In Prokhorov & Billy King WE TRUST.
8 > 3
DH12 OR BUST!
Official Member of the "Travis OutLOL Society". 5 years, 35 Million Dollars worth of lulz.
BRAVO
Finally dwight comes out with a tough ballsy stance and says yanno what trade me or im leaving, hes furious hes not going to the nets and this is what nets fans need to say and deron needs to see to believe things are gonna get better, maybe dwight really will come here and give up the money to stay in orlando.
Dwight makes us Contenders
I grabbed 19 rebounds in my first professional game, and somehow found a way to score 20 points. I felt real good about it. I felt that this was the beginning of something good.
-Julius Erving
Duhans contract will be problem first year
unless Billy pull out some trade for him like picks or something
by Aidar Berlinbayev on Dec 14, 2011 5:50 PM EST up reply actions
ru kidding me
nothing’s a problem if we have deron and dwight
Really? Couldn't even go a few hours...
by infam0us on Dec 14, 2011 5:49 PM EST reply actions 4 recs
Otis
Might just lose his job over this…
I grabbed 19 rebounds in my first professional game, and somehow found a way to score 20 points. I felt real good about it. I felt that this was the beginning of something good.
-Julius Erving
not a big suprise
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Adam Morrison got his team multiple championships barely trying, if that's not a great player...I don't know who is.
by YoungMoney24 on Dec 14, 2011 5:51 PM EST up reply actions
i think it's already lost
and he’s gonna keep dwight till the end of the year just as a “F*** YOU” to the orlando franchise
by Prash Ramani on Dec 14, 2011 5:51 PM EST up reply actions
was there any reason to keep him after this season?
The realist keepin it real amongst the surrealists
I was in Baghdad before these little B.G.'s was in they daddy-bags.
by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Dec 14, 2011 5:51 PM EST up reply actions
he did already
From last year up to this minute Otis have been failing Magic organization badly
by Aidar Berlinbayev on Dec 14, 2011 5:52 PM EST up reply actions
just look at who he's brought to play alongside howard
by Prash Ramani on Dec 14, 2011 5:53 PM EST up reply actions
no doubt
That Arenas trade was his last chance, he took it and lost. Now it’s time to move on can get that guy at all.
by Aidar Berlinbayev on Dec 14, 2011 5:55 PM EST up reply actions
well if otis approved this deal and ownership didnt
we have a completely different ball game
by Prash Ramani on Dec 14, 2011 5:56 PM EST up reply actions
That's the case Prash
Now BK and Fegan, and maybe even Otis at this point, are going to ride ownership hard.
I'm bipolar. Just remember to read this before you respond to or read my comments. Someone here forgot to.
Opposite of the Mets...
The Nets have money and are sitting around on it.
I typed your symptoms into this thing up here and it says you could have network connectivity problems.
well look at the mets now
after spending so much money
by Prash Ramani on Dec 14, 2011 5:52 PM EST up reply actions
That's what happens when you allow incompetent people to run your org.
I really hope I don’t have to add Billy King to the Omar Minaya list…
Oh pissing blimey there's jam coming out of the walls!
thats part of it
but theyve made a ton of terrible signings i.e Jason Bay
by Prash Ramani on Dec 14, 2011 5:54 PM EST up reply actions
Well how about the Wilpon's original DESIGN of CitiField?
Instead of keeping the SHEA Dimensions, they moved the fences out and as a result, even David Wright’s power numbers plummeted and only NOW do they choose to move IN the fences finally.
I think we might see a bounceback from BOTH Bay and Wright this year.
exactly just spending in an effort to compete for headlines
i dont care at all about ny and espn headlines i want this team to be smart
not sign nene is smart for the amount that the clippers gave him not signing caron is smart
id rather them make fiscally smart basketball moves than headline moves
by mightymosdefinition on Dec 14, 2011 5:55 PM EST up reply actions
i think King already made it clear D12 or bust
and we still much in there, lets hope it will end faster than we all think
by Aidar Berlinbayev on Dec 14, 2011 5:56 PM EST up reply actions
don't even say the mets
just the mention of our situation depresses me
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Adam Morrison got his team multiple championships barely trying, if that's not a great player...I don't know who is.
by YoungMoney24 on Dec 14, 2011 5:55 PM EST up reply actions
So maybe it's not Otis who's the idiot
Maybe this whole time ownership has been pushing him to make this odd decisions. They’re showing it now.
Or maybe They're just in denial
(No pun intended)
I grabbed 19 rebounds in my first professional game, and somehow found a way to score 20 points. I felt real good about it. I felt that this was the beginning of something good.
-Julius Erving
Dwight off the trade block?
if true, the franchise is a disgrace
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Adam Morrison got his team multiple championships barely trying, if that's not a great player...I don't know who is.
Utah FO vs. Orlando FO
One doesn’t even need their superstar to say a word before they know he’s gonna leave while the other had their superstar PUBLICLY request a trade due to his unhappiness and still think they can keep him.
I get it if they want more for Dwight, but calling off trade discussions and being stubborn like this will get them NOWHERE.
by RecSpecs on Dec 14, 2011 5:55 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
utah = classy....orlando = crappy
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by YoungMoney24 on Dec 14, 2011 5:58 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
the FO that is (not the fans)
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Adam Morrison got his team multiple championships barely trying, if that's not a great player...I don't know who is.
by YoungMoney24 on Dec 14, 2011 5:58 PM EST up reply actions
Utah FO > Orlando FO ..... insert where Denver FO goes
I still have belief we can do IT !
by faNETicS on Dec 14, 2011 6:01 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Orlando FO = Denver FO
"Our greatest glory is not in never failing, but in rising up every time we fail." - Ralph Waldo Emerson
He did
thats the only reason Lakers not in a picture at all
by Aidar Berlinbayev on Dec 14, 2011 5:57 PM EST up reply actions
The best thing for us would be the Lakers winning the bid for Chris Paul...
And losing Gasol in the process. Then it’s just visa-a-vie the Magic. And they can’t turn that down.
the real culprit behind this one is the magic ownership
but maybe its a blessing in disguise. we were giving up a LOT
better for us
resign him for cheap now
Nets Mets Giants ALL DAY
by netsareboss on Dec 14, 2011 5:58 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
+1
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by YoungMoney24 on Dec 14, 2011 5:58 PM EST up reply actions
i'll do kim any day
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Adam Morrison got his team multiple championships barely trying, if that's not a great player...I don't know who is.
by YoungMoney24 on Dec 14, 2011 6:01 PM EST up reply actions
So Howard actually manned up?
I am shocked.
by GrandKenyon6 on Dec 14, 2011 5:58 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
ABOUT TIME
he should have been, from the get go.
I still have belief we can do IT !
by faNETicS on Dec 14, 2011 6:03 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
hahah im shocked too
"Some things you just can't question. Like you can't question why two plus two is four. So don't question it, don't try to look it up. I don't know who made it, all I know is it was put in my head that two plus two is four. So certain things happen. Why does it rain? Why am I so sexy? I don't know." - Shaquille O'Neal
by CinnamonToastCrunch on Dec 14, 2011 6:09 PM EST up reply actions
they can have all of our toothpicks too
"Some things you just can't question. Like you can't question why two plus two is four. So don't question it, don't try to look it up. I don't know who made it, all I know is it was put in my head that two plus two is four. So certain things happen. Why does it rain? Why am I so sexy? I don't know." - Shaquille O'Neal
by CinnamonToastCrunch on Dec 14, 2011 6:09 PM EST up reply actions
Because of this:
“I’m an optimist,” Martins said. “I am confident that we can work with Dwight and convince him to stay here long term.”
MarShon Brooks has the dreaded.
"When will we just change the name of 25 of the 30 teams to the Washington Generals?" - Dan Gilbert
Martins is an interim CEO
He may not be there long term.
by ZR on Dec 14, 2011 9:53 PM EST up reply actions
uhhh
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by YoungMoney24 on Dec 14, 2011 6:02 PM EST up reply actions
The Nets, though, privately believed they were in the lead for Howard as of Wednesday morning, with the Lakers known to be dangling Pau Gasol to re-enter the Chris Paul trade sweepstakes and the Magic determined to hold out for bringing back both Gasol and Andrew Bynum if they ever consent to trade Howard to L.A.
MarShon Brooks has the dreaded.
"When will we just change the name of 25 of the 30 teams to the Washington Generals?" - Dan Gilbert
Privately Privately Privately
Shhh…don’t tell anyone, ok?
billy is our author
He writes our story, this franchise has been full of pain, now where’s our glory!! Own version of juelz santana- the second coming
by NJN23 on Dec 14, 2011 6:03 PM EST via mobile reply actions
just watched the D12 interview after their practice and he is pretty pissed!
good for us!
excuse my bad english please
just watched the interview and i did not notice any anger
Section 4 Row 7 @ Prudential
i ment his singing about how he doesn't want to talk about the trade
thats what i would do if were completely furious. The rest was just the stuff every player on every team says the whole time
excuse my bad english please
wow thats a lot of picks
The Nets, sources said, offered to sweeten the deal for Orlando and Portland by including their own first-round picks in 2012, 2014, 2016 and 2018 as well as a 2012 first-rounder previously acquired from Houston
by Aidar Berlinbayev on Dec 14, 2011 6:04 PM EST reply actions
Worth it.
The picks from 2012-2017 would be worthless anyway with a Dwight/Deron tandem.
MarShon Brooks has the dreaded.
"When will we just change the name of 25 of the 30 teams to the Washington Generals?" - Dan Gilbert
Not really.
Guys like MarShon Brooks, Travis Leslie, Tyler Honeycutt were/will be all there.
Prokhorov
We can buy those picks.
Timeless - The 2001-2003 NJ Nets
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nima3dmLrcw
Are we allowed to trade yachts for picks?
I’m sure Proky has extras to spare…
Nets Mets Giants ALL DAY
Why would we do that?
wth is wrong with them? Get someone else involved so they lose picks instead of us.
Nets Mets Giants ALL DAY
I was happier when orlando shut it down.
I am going to turn this team around 360 Degrees- Jason Kidd
by njnets on Dec 14, 2011 6:05 PM EST via mobile reply actions
I got work done
I am going to turn this team around 360 Degrees- Jason Kidd
by njnets on Dec 14, 2011 6:06 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Well boys, you wanted Dwight to force his way here, and now he finally has
Let’s be honest: I know it says March 15th in the article, but does anyone really think Dwight and Fegan will let this go past the end of the month? Now that this has gotten out to the public, they either have to trade him here, or lose him for nothing. Why else do you think BK stayed silent? I think he was told by Deron. I think Dwight told Deron he’d do this, and that Deron informed BK. All BK has to do now is come up with an improved offer, and he’s ours. Told you.
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No he hasn't.
He’s forcing a trade, he’s not forcing his way here.
If he forced his way here he would say he’s not staying with the LAL or DAL or anyoene lse but NJ.
Privately xs0ng
It’s obvious the Mavericks are not in the hunt for Dwight via trade. The Lakers are now back to trying to get CP3. Magic ownership has no choice.
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dont be naive
You don’t think its possible LA is leaking a CP3 story to get Magic to think hard about their offer? Widen your view.
This is what I was saying earlier today!
So happy Dwight got more vocal. Let’s hope they wake up down in Florida and let go of the big D.
by Special_Delivery on Dec 14, 2011 6:16 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
40 on Comcast.
MarShon Brooks has the dreaded.
"When will we just change the name of 25 of the 30 teams to the Washington Generals?" - Dan Gilbert
We should have signed him...
WojYahooNBA: Reggie Williams has agreed to a two-year deal, $5 million deal with Charlotte, a league source tells Y! Sports.
And... another walks
We really have done nothing in this FA. Our Team is the D-League Allstars: Starring D-Will and Brook
If this year we were D-League players...
i dread to know what we were last year… and the year before
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healthy damion james
healthy deron williams all season and marshon thats hardly the same team
also brook who was able to train all offseason
by mightymosdefinition on Dec 14, 2011 6:16 PM EST up reply actions
plus a healthy DWill and Lopez
and MarShon + a healthy Damion James + Jordan Williams + SWill
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Yeah. Only a 2.5 million cap hit.
MarShon Brooks has the dreaded.
"When will we just change the name of 25 of the 30 teams to the Washington Generals?" - Dan Gilbert
Not suprised
JoshuaBRobbins: Magic GM Otis Smith tells @OrlandoSentinel: “We’re still exploring all opportunities.” Story here: http://t.co/oldrPVMI
"We're not there yet, but we're going somewhere," Johnson said. "And we're going to Brooklyn. We're not going to contract. We're going to Brooklyn."
by Atronic on Dec 14, 2011 6:12 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
The Magic would be very happy with Brook
They don’t realize how valuable he is. It’s pathetic. G.Wall is a guy teams would love to have, amazing hustle night in night out. I’m shocked they rejected those players, solid backups AND a pick. Plus cap relief. Unbelievable. But I’m happy Dwight is getting to the breaking point. This whole thing is ridiculous at this point!
by Special_Delivery on Dec 14, 2011 6:13 PM EST via iPhone app reply actions
did i miss it?
they are talkin about broncos right now..
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by lemmetakeutodamovies on Dec 14, 2011 6:18 PM EST up reply actions
yeah he basically
just said everything we know
by Prash Ramani on Dec 14, 2011 6:18 PM EST up reply actions
got it, thanks
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by lemmetakeutodamovies on Dec 14, 2011 6:19 PM EST up reply actions
i feel like if this is melodrama
then we are the knicks and the lakers are us, except, the lakers are not going to wine and dine the magic all season long trying to get howard
FRANKS AND BEANS FRANKS AND BEANS
by lemmetakeutodamovies on Dec 14, 2011 6:16 PM EST reply actions
it's just getting started just listen to Otis Smith
don’t think there’s anything on the table that won’t be on the table three months from now," Smith said
by Aidar Berlinbayev on Dec 14, 2011 6:18 PM EST up reply actions
oh my word
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by lemmetakeutodamovies on Dec 14, 2011 6:18 PM EST up reply actions
he is right
he is playing this right and if I was in his position I would do the same thing. The Nets did the same thing with Jason Kidd
My lil man.....can't tell me god don't exist.
by killa kadafi191 on Dec 14, 2011 6:19 PM EST up reply actions
he is not interested in cap space
the guy just signed a declining J Rich, Von Wafer and Big baby
My lil man.....can't tell me god don't exist.
by killa kadafi191 on Dec 14, 2011 6:21 PM EST up reply actions
He likes signing guys bc
He thought he’d convince D12 to stay no? Anyway D12 obviously isn’t staying at this point and they’ll need more cap space for new guys since they have no space now.
by Special_Delivery on Dec 14, 2011 6:24 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
Plus owner is about to sell them as well
by Aidar Berlinbayev on Dec 14, 2011 6:25 PM EST up reply actions
still dwight told him he wanted out at the beginning of last week that means
he still sign these players knowing that
My lil man.....can't tell me god don't exist.
by killa kadafi191 on Dec 14, 2011 6:25 PM EST up reply actions
there's no team that can win without all stars
Magic as of right now have only one on roster and their salary cap prevents them from getting one. With that said teams better be all in or all out and build over, he have to trade him right now so Magics pick will be in a lottery this summer.
by Aidar Berlinbayev on Dec 14, 2011 6:24 PM EST up reply actions
i dont remember
jason kidd DEMANDING a trade in the offseason and having all this drama in the offseason.
by Andrew Flynn on Dec 14, 2011 6:42 PM EST up reply actions
He did so privately
Story never got out until the migraine fiasco.
by ZR on Dec 14, 2011 9:58 PM EST up reply actions
Fire someone
Hollahhhhh
by Special_Delivery on Dec 14, 2011 6:18 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
People Otis isn't stupid
he has no reason to trade Dwight now. Dwight and Fegan have no leverage. Otis holds all the cards. Now on March 15 Dwight will have the leverage
My lil man.....can't tell me god don't exist.
by killa kadafi191 on Dec 14, 2011 6:18 PM EST reply actions
what will that do??
Otis will say okay come back with another offer. Plus Dwight isn’t going to say that we know he has more than one preference but as the the evidence has shown its about who offer they prefer
My lil man.....can't tell me god don't exist.
by killa kadafi191 on Dec 14, 2011 6:20 PM EST up reply actions
you don't think Otis could talk ownership into taking a deal???
My lil man.....can't tell me god don't exist.
by killa kadafi191 on Dec 14, 2011 6:21 PM EST up reply actions
Of course not. IT'S OTIS, MAN! OTIS!
lol. It’s self-explanatory.
Otis talk them to signing off on
they hired him and given him power. If you give a monkey a gun and he starts to shoot people you don’t blame the monkey
My lil man.....can't tell me god don't exist.
by killa kadafi191 on Dec 14, 2011 6:28 PM EST up reply actions
killa, you're wrong, and here's why
Dwight stands to lose money if he isn’t traded now. You don’t think he got that point across to ownership?
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What is he going to do to threaten them
what card can Dwight play other than the disgruntle superstar???
Is he going to fake an injury. Refuse to play??
again the article said March 15 if Dwight was worried about Jan 1st or if it was an important day. That date would have been listed
My lil man.....can't tell me god don't exist.
by killa kadafi191 on Dec 14, 2011 6:27 PM EST up reply actions
What athlete will willingly give up money?
What can the Magic do? They know he’s a goner after the season. They also know the offer at the deadline will be reduced. They know if they take the offer now, Dwight gets his money, and they get the best package available, because the Lakers have already stated they aren’t giving up both Bynum and Gasol.
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That's not the only reason I gave
WHy would they want a reduced offer?
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If this is true, then the Nets HAVE TO go for it
I won’t be upset if they strike out. Howard wants out, a trade was proposed and the ownership, not Otis Smith, turned them down.
Keep going BK, get it done.
Do you think that's why Billy didn't do anything
I’m so confused on what’s going on
Yeah, Ccrules, that's one reason
the other is that he still has not said a word for days now. If it was over, he’d call it off. Simplest thing to do.
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But that is the essential point of all this
It has already made it to ownership. They will sleep on it and then tomorrow Otis is going to say, "The Nets need to fill out their roster. We aren’t getting a better deal, we’re hamstrung. Time to cash in.
by BrooklynNets on Dec 14, 2011 6:50 PM EST up reply actions
So you agree with me that ownership will cave
and we get it done now?
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"That’s not where we are," Smith told the Orlando Sentinel. "What we’ve basically said is we don’t feel like we have to trade him today. We’re going to continue to look and explore opportunities. Actually, I don’t know if anything changed in my mind.
“We’re still exploring all opportunities. Our first opportunity is to keep him in a Magic uniform.”
MarShon Brooks has the dreaded.
"When will we just change the name of 25 of the 30 teams to the Washington Generals?" - Dan Gilbert
That's Otis reciting word-for-word what Ownership told him to say.
We all know he can’t think for himself so…..
BUT
HE SAID HE WILL LEAVE. HE WONT STAY
by Prash Ramani on Dec 14, 2011 6:22 PM EST up reply actions
they feel they can change his mind once the season starts
My lil man.....can't tell me god don't exist.
by killa kadafi191 on Dec 14, 2011 6:23 PM EST up reply actions
LOL
Actually, I don’t know if anything changed in my mind.
I think he’s confused.
I still have belief we can do IT !
Lip service
He knows what’s going on behind closed doors. Ownership turned it down, he agreed to trade Howard. This will be a media nightmare for the Magic if this keeps up.
anybody see Kendrick Perkins' new look?
that outlaw craYY
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by lemmetakeutodamovies on Dec 14, 2011 6:20 PM EST reply actions
I have always liked Pau. I hope he is right.
DuranLA Beto Duran
Pau Gasol on Orlando NOT trading Dwight “don’t know if it’s accurate. Might be saying that to get better offer”
MarShon Brooks has the dreaded.
"When will we just change the name of 25 of the 30 teams to the Washington Generals?" - Dan Gilbert
Simmons: "The Clips could blow everyone else away with a "Chris Kaman, Eric Gordon, Ryan Gomes, Eric Bledsoe, Al-Farouq Aminu and Minnesota's unprotected 2012 no. 1 pick for Howard and Turkoglu's contract" Nobody is topping that offer. Repeat: nobody."
by ap3604 on Dec 14, 2011 6:23 PM EST reply actions
They won't even trade for CP3 without an extension guarantee..
MarShon Brooks has the dreaded.
"When will we just change the name of 25 of the 30 teams to the Washington Generals?" - Dan Gilbert
haha they already have a dwight howard
his name is blake griffin
by Prash Ramani on Dec 14, 2011 6:25 PM EST up reply actions
why would they trade for Dwight?
CP3 would be a much better fit for them. Simmons just makes up scenarios he would love to see happen and says “they’re stupid if they don’t do this!” even if it has no basis in reality.
by sheepareevil on Dec 14, 2011 6:27 PM EST up reply actions
Confirmed: Hornets just took this deal (minus 1-2 players) for Chris Paul
down to just LAL and Nets competing for d12
Dear lord if Shawne Williams says no to us that means Deron Williams and Brooklyn and the richest owner means nothing
Tyson Chandler
Caron Butler
Nene
Tyshuan Prince
I don't care what it means to moisoin Shawne Williams.
Dwight cares about that ish and ShaWill will be begging to join the Nets if that happens.
MarShon Brooks has the dreaded.
"When will we just change the name of 25 of the 30 teams to the Washington Generals?" - Dan Gilbert
incarcerated bob said it will happen by tonight. jay z is telling people hova.
dwight howard is gonna be a net tonight. all points there. all signs are there.
by vincent manzull on Dec 14, 2011 6:25 PM EST reply actions
Guys, he had the Peyton story before anyone else
He’s not always right, but he’s not always wrong.
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Funny thing is I follow him on Twitter, and he did not specifically say D12 was going to be a Net tonight.
by JimmyLips on Dec 14, 2011 7:24 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
Day Late; Dollar Short
Dwight is saying this two days too late. And you know tomorrow he’ll say he loves Orlando. Forget it.
Billy’s problem with this and with Melo is that he has set the bar and now other teams know how high they have to go: advantage lakers.
This is all just posturing by the Magic to get the Lakers
to give up Pau and Bynum….we were never in it, they dont like our offer!
Ive never felt so deflated over anything not having to do with family or something of real importance in my life!
It shouldnt matter this much, maybe it’s cause of all the misery we’ve endured recently that i wanted so bad for this to go down…….this team is and always will be a joke……
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by Angelo Mihalitsianos on Dec 14, 2011 6:28 PM EST reply actions
what makes you think the Lakers will give up both??
again as the article said Lakers didn’t even bite. So that tells you they are not interested
My lil man.....can't tell me god don't exist.
by killa kadafi191 on Dec 14, 2011 6:29 PM EST up reply actions
I know it is tough
I have been a Nets fan forever and things never seem to go but hang in there. I bet you never thought they would get someone like DWill
why is Otis waiting?
March 15th, we might be lottery bound, why trade for Dwight then? We can just sign him in the offseason.
Anyway, sounds to me Dwight is set on the Nets.
by JackTr1pper on Dec 14, 2011 6:28 PM EST via iPhone app reply actions
that's why.
A pick in the lottery.
I love the Nets...too bad they don't love me...
by BEB on Dec 14, 2011 6:34 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
doesnt it make more sense
Too trade him now, tank the season, and the Magic pick becomes a top 5 pick, as opposed to the Nets 12-14 pick?
It does but they feel like they still have a chance to get him to stay
Their efforts will likely be futile but they are still going to try.
That's why you need to get him now
He’s set on us, so why wait? Do it before something changes(possibly).
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if something could change (possibly)
then he’s not set on us. What of reports of LA being his #1. Again if they concede and offer Pau and Bynum, its a wrap.
I'd have to know who said they were #1
I heard they were #3. What could have changed it all of a sudden? Again, it comes down to who’s saying it. If it’s Woj or Al, I believe it. Otherwise, skeptical.
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I noticed in the last gew days
we haven’t had multiple 1000+ comment threads anymore. Seems like everyone either quit this nonsense or has relaxed…
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relaxed wait till march
My lil man.....can't tell me god don't exist.
by killa kadafi191 on Dec 14, 2011 6:29 PM EST up reply actions
true
but i personally haven’t commented because I didn’t want to be the negative nanny on this site with all the ups and downs on dwight articles. i mean if you were to graph the highs and lows of emotions for just the past week it would look like a heart rate monitor.
relaxed
and tired of the same see-saw rabble
FRANKS AND BEANS FRANKS AND BEANS
by lemmetakeutodamovies on Dec 14, 2011 6:38 PM EST up reply actions
Have you guys seen
Kendrick Perkins skinny Mofo.
"I think I’m the best point guard in the league. No reason. I just think I’m the best.’’-Deron Williams.
Here you go
http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/blog/ball_dont_lie/post/Kendrick-Perkins-drops-32-pounds-bucking-the-lo?urn=nba-wp11788
"I think I’m the best point guard in the league. No reason. I just think I’m the best.’’-Deron Williams.
Wow
Looks like he was forced to eat nothin but carrots since lat year jeeeeez
by Special_Delivery on Dec 14, 2011 6:33 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
he is one ugly moiso
but clearly very dedicated
by bronxbombers2 on Dec 14, 2011 6:43 PM EST up reply actions
I say this is the Thunder's year
Even if we do land Dwight
by BrooklynNets on Dec 14, 2011 6:55 PM EST up reply actions
Dwight
Needs 2 say TRADE ME TO NJ" again, and he needs 2 make it known that he no longer wants o be in Orlando.
I grabbed 19 rebounds in my first professional game, and somehow found a way to score 20 points. I felt real good about it. I felt that this was the beginning of something good.
-Julius Erving
just tweeted BK
AngeloM316 Angelos Mihalitsiano
@bkdefend awesome!!!!!!! deja vu of melo last year….only this year theres no dwill to pull out of a hat the next day
5 seconds ago Favorite Reply Delete
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by Angelo Mihalitsianos on Dec 14, 2011 6:31 PM EST reply actions
to let him know that we aint happy.....do you shell out thousands for season tickets every year
and continually get let down?
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by Angelo Mihalitsianos on Dec 14, 2011 6:35 PM EST up reply actions
He knows what he has to do
He doesn’t need you telling him. I wish I could go to a game. Just one. I get that money’s hard. I should know, being unemployed, but that’s not a reason to tweet him that. You need to think before you tweet.
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I actually agree with netsareboss this time
Why on earth would you EVER do that? Don’t give BK any negative thoughts. Let the man do his work. My goodness.
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as if King
gives a damn what some tweeter is tweeting him
by MrDollarBills on Dec 14, 2011 8:26 PM EST up reply actions
Dude don't worry
This thing ain’t over yet. We’ve had a lot of patience, keep going.
by BrooklynNets on Dec 14, 2011 6:56 PM EST up reply actions
So who are we looking to sign at PF AND SF?
"I think I’m the best point guard in the league. No reason. I just think I’m the best.’’-Deron Williams.
Looks like
Hump and Shawne Williams
"We're not there yet, but we're going somewhere," Johnson said. "And we're going to Brooklyn. We're not going to contract. We're going to Brooklyn."
Looks like
Shawne Williams is going back to the Knicks.
Fire Johnson and hire Van Gundy - I'm telling you Thorn was smoking something when he let Van Gundy slip away in the night.
by diehardNFFLbarnone on Dec 14, 2011 6:49 PM EST up reply actions
its bad chemistry for gerald wallace, the magic, and the nets to let this linger on into a short 66 game season.
this deal has to happen this week. or else lopez will be clearly playing for stock? can’t have that
by vincent manzull on Dec 14, 2011 6:33 PM EST reply actions
it won't
they should just get used to it. this will be going on till march
My lil man.....can't tell me god don't exist.
by killa kadafi191 on Dec 14, 2011 6:34 PM EST up reply actions
Its hilarious
How we Net fans jump back and forth thread to thread…. we’re sad and depressed…. then super happy…. then back to hating the world and expecting failure…. NOPE, wait…. we’re happy again! lol.
I hope this is the last one of this kind
We as fans are becoming “veterans” on this. Hahahaha
I still have belief we can do IT !
me too, surprisingly
I was a little earlier on, but not since Monday night.
It’s just the sleepless nights I’m worried about, I’m feeling it now.
I still have belief we can do IT !
I got a feeling he gets dealt
To a team not named the Nets.
I love the Nets...too bad they don't love me...
by BEB on Dec 14, 2011 6:36 PM EST via iPhone app reply actions
what do you mean Deron isn't happy
lets use common sense.
If King felt that all it would take for Deron to be happy would be Caron and Nene you don’t think we wouldn’t overpay them??
King is consulting Deron right now. Deron is obviously cool with this. Believe that the reason we are chasing Dwight like this is because of Deron. This is for him. So if King is willing to go through all of this for Deron you don’t think he would sign Butler and Nene if that’s all it took???
come on
My lil man.....can't tell me god don't exist.
by killa kadafi191 on Dec 14, 2011 6:38 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I agree with that
Deron and Billy are in sync, no question.
Section 18, Row 7 at The Rock!
"Your 2010-2011 New Jersey Nets - It Is What It Is"
One interview??
one interview that is what we are basing Deron happiness off of?? This is how it must feel to argue/debate with me. I’m going back to work.
My lil man.....can't tell me god don't exist.
by killa kadafi191 on Dec 14, 2011 6:41 PM EST up reply actions
hea probably pissed at Orlando
Just like we all are
I love the Nets...too bad they don't love me...
by BEB on Dec 14, 2011 6:46 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
I know you guys have seen this LMAO
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tGwBYSHhbG8
"I think I’m the best point guard in the league. No reason. I just think I’m the best.’’-Deron Williams.
smh...
It seemed far-fetched that Jersey could land Howard for Brook Lopez (one of the league’s most overrated young players)2 and a couple of future first-rounders who won’t amount to anything because Howard guarantees you 47 wins a year … a
Dwight or bust....
Superbowl or bust...
http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/7352957/the-ninth-day-nba-christmas
Dwight or bust....
Superbowl or bust...
Brook Lopez overrated??
people don’t give him much credit any way
My lil man.....can't tell me god don't exist.
by killa kadafi191 on Dec 14, 2011 6:39 PM EST up reply actions
Doesn't that
look like Scott Skiles?
Fire Johnson and hire Van Gundy - I'm telling you Thorn was smoking something when he let Van Gundy slip away in the night.
by diehardNFFLbarnone on Dec 14, 2011 6:57 PM EST up reply actions
overrated y who sure buddy ffs
"Next year, with a full training camp, I think he can go after that Scott Skiles' record of 30." - Billy King
simmons is often a tool to be honest
"Next year, with a full training camp, I think he can go after that Scott Skiles' record of 30." - Billy King
Lets Go Nets
Billy King has to get this deal done, if he cant get it done he would have to pull another rabbit out of his hat like he did with the D-Will deal. Do yall think there is any other player out there that we can trade for to pair with D-will and Lopez? Or is it Dwight or Bust?
I hate to say this but
the only one that can top a Dwight trade right now is LeFraud
I still have belief we can do IT !
uh iggy is available but he's not at the same level
Maybe a Mike Beasly…since they have Derek williams he is expendable…again not at the same level, but nice pieces that are young
We are in another atmosphere. You're just in the Troposhere we in the Exospere. In other words the JETS are higher than you!
by Fly-as-a-JET on Dec 14, 2011 9:28 PM EST up reply actions
Good Bye Orlando... Im leaving one way or another
by njNets2 on Dec 14, 2011 6:42 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Lopez the "Major Building Block" is
a defensive liability and a loser since he has been in the league. The Magic don’t want him and the only way we get Dwight is if the Lakers don’t ante up and/or Dwight says to Orlando it’s the Nets offer or bust.
Life as a Net fan
Can it get any worse? There's always tomorrow.
Who taught you the game?
Defense starts and ends in the paint.
Life as a Net fan
Can it get any worse? There's always tomorrow.
technically defense starts and ends
at the beginning and the end of the game, not matter where your playing defense, paint or perimeter
Nets Mets Giants ALL DAY
priorities
You can’t defend the paint, you lose.
Life as a Net fan
Can it get any worse? There's always tomorrow.
Unless the other team doesn't attack through the paint
If you defend the paint but not the perimeters against a shooting team, your done. You gotta defend everywhere. Jus saying.
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You want to force the opposition to the perimeter
cuz it’s a lower % shot. You do have to defend everywhere but the paint is the priority.
Life as a Net fan
Can it get any worse? There's always tomorrow.
Omg
I don’t even understand what were fighting over. yes the paint is important, but so is the perimeter. Everything is important.
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Don't cry . Repeat after me Priorities.....
Life as a Net fan
Can it get any worse? There's always tomorrow.
I'm done...
no point in this, especially when you say Lopez is a loser for no reason
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What does that even mean?
Loser?
@ HowardBeckNYT
Deal done, source says. NBA is back.
-November 26th, 3:17 am.
Look at Lopezs' career win pct%
A center that can’t defend is fatal.
Life as a Net fan
Can it get any worse? There's always tomorrow.
riiiiight because a good player with scrubs
should be winning championships!
by bronxbombers2 on Dec 14, 2011 6:47 PM EST up reply actions
So...
Kevin Love sucks
So does Blake Griffin…
Just ignore the fact that basketball is a TEAM sport and Lopez had a bunch of scrubs as teammates
None of that matters… right??
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yeah by those standards Kevin Love BLOWS lolllll
by bronxbombers2 on Dec 14, 2011 6:49 PM EST up reply actions
excuses, excuses
It takes a front line to defend unless you have a dominate big like Howard. Let me know when the Nets have ONE guy who defends in the paint.
Life as a Net fan
Can it get any worse? There's always tomorrow.
I bet you a BILLION DOLLARS that if you put Brook in Orlando instead of Howard, they'd STILL be a Playoff Team.
Maybe not ECF-calibre but still a Playoff-team nonetheless.
You’re bugging, man.
You know that new guy John Wall?
Man he’s TERRIBLE! don’t even know why he was considered ROY behind Blake…
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seriously
you can’t just look at stats only and use them to rate a player. I will agree that Lopez does need to up his defense in the paint but that’s where Hump came in last year, he did the majority of our defense in the paint.
but to call lopez a failing center? are you serious?
i stand corrected.
sorry…too many comments to read through. I thought he was going off stats, I missed the win % comment.
actually Kevin Love is a pretty crappy defender
The realist keepin it real amongst the surrealists
I was in Baghdad before these little B.G.'s was in they daddy-bags.
by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Dec 14, 2011 7:55 PM EST up reply actions
Expected
That makes sense for them… we should sign some people—and then grab Dwight in the Offseason. Or buy him for cheap.
I doubt it..
If they trade him during that time, dwight will lose his bird rights and lose a lot of money.. You can bet Fegan and dwight will not be happy if they do that, still sticking to my gut that he’s traded before Jan 1.. With that team Orl have, Dwight is not gonna be happy sticking around for long unless they can get another superstar which i strongly doubt…
Stop putting links in the subject please. Thanks.
"This isn’t fantasy or rotisserie basketball. Why would Denver want Outlaw? Would you?" - Al Iannazzone
THIS
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Adam Morrison got his team multiple championships barely trying, if that's not a great player...I don't know who is.
by YoungMoney24 on Dec 14, 2011 6:45 PM EST up reply actions
Damn...
Simmons: “And if you’re picking a cold-weather team based on markets, point guards and branding opportunities, how could you pick Brooklyn (living in the shadow of the Knicks), Deron Williams, this goofy Nets ownership, a lousy supporting cast and a franchise with a sad-sack history over Chicago (the third-biggest market), Rose (better and younger than Williams), a better supporting cast, a shrewd ownership and one of the most rabid fan bases in the league?”
by ap3604 on Dec 14, 2011 6:44 PM EST reply actions
I think Simmons hates the Nets for all the beat downs we gave them during the Finals runs
Section 18, Row 7 at The Rock!
"Your 2010-2011 New Jersey Nets - It Is What It Is"
what can you say?
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by netsareboss on Dec 14, 2011 6:45 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
Yeah....
How about we contract the NBA down to 5 teams Simmons.
LA, NY, CHI, MIA, and a Texas team.
All the superstars can play there.
Who wants to play for those other franchises?
I typed your symptoms into this thing up here and it says you could have network connectivity problems.
Who cares what Simmons thinks
He is an idiot and not even funny. Never read someone more full of themselves than this putz
Better yet
How could you listen to a knucklehead that admired Billy King after the Deron deal went down and was criticizing is a couple months later?
Better yet
How could you listen to a knucklehead that admired Billy King after the Deron deal went down and was criticizing is a couple months later?
Simmons is a Boston guy
he hates NY period
by domininaldo1981 on Dec 14, 2011 7:07 PM EST up reply actions
thats stupid New Jersey is warmer by an average of over 10 degrees
so there is that.
bla bla bla
same old story…..all star break trade discussions!
Excellent, lets wait around and in the mean time we can absolutely suck!
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by Angelo Mihalitsianos on Dec 14, 2011 6:44 PM EST reply actions
lighten up
how many times can we go thru this?
how many games can i sit in my seat at the rock with more than half the place empty…..and when it is full its because of the visiting fans!
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by Angelo Mihalitsianos on Dec 14, 2011 6:47 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
visiting fans?
or you mean Jerseyans eager to see the visiting team?
I still have belief we can do IT !
A few more months
once we start winning it’ll fill up… and it will def fill up in Brooklyn
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take it easy man
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Adam Morrison got his team multiple championships barely trying, if that's not a great player...I don't know who is.
by YoungMoney24 on Dec 14, 2011 6:51 PM EST up reply actions
we tried
gave Nene a bigger offer than he took
Dwight doesn’t want us
LeBron and Melo never considered us
sometimes you have to ask the ugly girl to dance, and show you can have fun with her, to get the pretty girl to notice you
somebody said that
who knows who
but why is there a list of choices?
you want to go where you want to go
we have already been played by the agent on the Nene deal
he took the year over the money
no reason to think he is leaning Dwight twds Nets
OT: Anyone see the new Kendrick Perkins??
Holy lord he lost a lot of weight.
noooooo
Bill Simmons @sportsguy33 1m
Heavy buzz that CP3/Clippers might be going down. Clips staff was just summoned to the office. Trying to get more info.
It's really giving the NBA a bit of a black eye I think
It’s frustrating.. I’d MUCH rather be talking about basketball…not trades.
In 5 more min nets front office will just be summoned for d-12 too right?!
by ap3604 on Dec 14, 2011 6:51 PM EST up reply actions
You would want Paul to go to the Lakers
As a Nets fan.
"We're not there yet, but we're going somewhere," Johnson said. "And we're going to Brooklyn. We're not going to contract. We're going to Brooklyn."
But not as a CP3 fan and an NBA fan
As a Nets fan, yes, it helps us alot in getting Dwight. but i don’t want to see another 5 years of Lakers competing for a championship. I wanna see new teams step up to the plate.
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the all-star weekend will be non-stop "where will dwight go" discussions
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Adam Morrison got his team multiple championships barely trying, if that's not a great player...I don't know who is.
Get Hump or AK-47
do it cheap and move on.
Have to do something. Nets aren’t even at the floor of the CBA cap minimum.
Not sure Hump will resign.
"It's as sweet as it ever was, I'll tell you. Now, hopefully, we started something and we can win some more championships, but we're going to enjoy this one right now. Have a little champagne." --Julius Erving, May 12, 1976, ABA champion Nets locker room.
somebody correct me if I'm wrong ...
we don’t need to meet the CBA cap minimum at the start of the season, right?
I still have belief we can do IT !
nope, we got to move on and focus on d season
we need a starting 3 anyone down with Micheal Beasley? Beasley can put up points and has an expiring contract
beasley and j will?
sounds like a sequel to 
by Andrew Flynn on Dec 14, 2011 6:55 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
What can we get him for?
I wouldn’t mind trading him in Dwight packge.
ESPNSteinLine Marc Stein
ESPN sources: Clippers and NBA-owned Hornets have agreed to Chris Paul deal in principle. Gordon, Kaman, Aminu and Minnesota pick to Hornets
@ HowardBeckNYT
Deal done, source says. NBA is back.
-November 26th, 3:17 am.
what about bledsoe?
isnt this less then the previous offer?
by Andrew Flynn on Dec 14, 2011 7:01 PM EST up reply actions
bledsoe tore his meniscus earlier in the week and is out for at least 6 weeks
nobody wants mo williams unless you are dumping Baron Davis
The realist keepin it real amongst the surrealists
I was in Baghdad before these little B.G.'s was in they daddy-bags.
by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Dec 14, 2011 7:58 PM EST up reply actions
any dreams any of you have for DH12
can go directly out the window now!!!! they will feel ultra pressured to give in and deal pau and bynum
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by Angelo Mihalitsianos on Dec 14, 2011 7:03 PM EST reply actions
Great....
breaking news Howard back on the trade market…..anyone else agree
by mstaino1291 on Dec 14, 2011 7:03 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
People on ESPN blogs are idiots...
unprotected draft pick? what is that
Good thing I’m on this site and not with those people…
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i was talking to this guy there
and i mentioned we had houston’s lottery protected pick and he was like “WTF is that!?!”
Never go on yahoo/espn comments…ever.
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Adam Morrison got his team multiple championships barely trying, if that's not a great player...I don't know who is.
by YoungMoney24 on Dec 14, 2011 7:22 PM EST up reply actions
Calm down?
Can’t you read the writing on the wall? Do you understand the implications of this Paul trade?
Unless the Lakers do the Nets a huge favor, we’re a rebuilding team next year.
Oh pissing blimey there's jam coming out of the walls!
ORL isn't trading Howard until March.
Nets are screwed.
Look at what CP3 is being offered.
ORL wants even more.
No one can give that package.
Nets are screwed.
When jerry25 says this, you’ve got to be worried.
Oh pissing blimey there's jam coming out of the walls!
Unless the Nets find a fourth team
Or a better third team.
how no team in the nba can offer that
lakers arent trading bynum and gasol
its basically status quo except one team with more assets its out which are the clippers
by mightymosdefinition on Dec 14, 2011 7:31 PM EST up reply actions
This just got real...
Lakers vs. Nets LETS GOOOOOOOOOOOOO
I haven't been on NetsDaily for a couple of days because I was too pissed that BK hadn't signed Nene.
Now I just read on NBATV that Denver re-signed Nene.
Once again a top FA doesn’t want to come to Nets. Really Pathetic,
Now the Nets are really screwed because any FAs Nets sign take away from cap space and also can’t be used towards signing Howard.
Howard ORL has no intention of trading Howard until the March 15 deadline. That has been obvious for almost 1 week.
Therefore Nets are SCREWED Royally.
Nets now have to overpay for 2nd rate FAs, which will in turn hurt the chances to get Howard in March.
Your concerned that NENE didn't want to sign here?
Dwight wants to be here. Dwill wants to be here. That’s all that matters. Everyone knows nene wouldn’t make much of a difference in regrads to us competitng for a title. So who cares that he signed with denver…
I am stepping away from the Nets business for now. I need to get some work done in my day to day life. Until we meet again comrades!
"LeBron puts up great numbers, can't close w/o DWade. LeBricked 3 late 3s when shouldve been driving, getting to line. What else new?"
Yet casual basketball fans think he is a God, and would exhaust their entire squads to land him...
our best bet – this all pushes off to the all star break, bynum gets injured and Lopez puts up 23 & 8. I’m pretty sure the more we wait, the better our pick + the more value Lopez will have and Bynum will lose. Since there’s no more triangle, Bynum’s only points will come off rebounds and whatnot. The offense will be centered on kobe isolations and Pau post ups.
You guys are so hilarious to follow
Top of this thread “YEAHHH WE GETTIN HOWARD BABBYYYY”
End of this thread “FIRE KING! WERE SO SCREWED!!”
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by netsareboss on Dec 14, 2011 7:07 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Except my reaction has been consistent since the moment Nene signed
And this Paul trade makes things worse.
Oh pissing blimey there's jam coming out of the walls!
So you think the Lakers won't pay the price it'll take to get D12 (Pau/Bynum)?
That’s certainly possible, but I don’t think they’ll take the Paul trade sitting down and let the Clippers outshine them.
Oh pissing blimey there's jam coming out of the walls!
If Dwight truly wants to play w/ Deron
Nothing will stop him. He will be in BK.
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I'm not sure how strong his feelings really are...
And that’s not really something I want to be banking the future of my franchise on.
Because the downside is every bit as awful as the upside is great.
Oh pissing blimey there's jam coming out of the walls!
I doubt Orlando trades him to LA
we’ll have to wait and see.
Depending on you downside, I will have to disagree or agree with you
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The downside is the Nets will be in the same position they were in before 12-70
Only with Brook Lopez signed to a Marc Gasol contract.
I should probably stop thinking about it… nausea.
Oh pissing blimey there's jam coming out of the walls!
You mean
a Russel Westbrook, Lopez, a bunch of 1st rounders and lots of youth?
or are you saying DWill will walk out
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I think he goes.
To Dallas, probably.
Sigh. I don’t want to talk about this anymore.
Oh pissing blimey there's jam coming out of the walls!
Not good
Magic will now demand a haul as large or larger then what Clips gave up to get Paul and there is no way we can compete with that. Lakers will get Dwight only if they give up Gasol and Bynum I think but will they do that? Magic need to act now cause deal will only get worse as time passes. This could make the Howard trade happen now since Clips kinda just set the market. Lets see what BK and do and hopefully land us Dwight! Kinda wish Dwight started holding out of training camp until Orlando trade him to Nets! If he took that stance I think Otis would do the trade…why not they do it in the NFL all the time!
okay really guys?
This doesnt change the fact that the lakers wont trade bynum and gasol
by netsyankees4life on Dec 14, 2011 7:07 PM EST reply actions
Trade me or You wont see me play
Obviously, Orl is just fishing for better offer. Maybe if he threatens hem he wont play/practice with them, theyll be forced too.
Dont care how many Orl fans will hate him. Lebron had more enemies.. :) Besides, NETS fans will replace ’em… I say global fans!
If there’s any breach of contract, let Proky’s secretart handle ’em.
I'm an MJ FAN (Bulls)... turned into JKIDD FAN (Phoenix-Nets)...
NOW, I'm definitely a NETFAN - Go Deron Williams!
by NETFAN on Dec 14, 2011 7:07 PM EST via mobile reply actions
If it's just Kobe and Dwight how is that
Appealing?
by mb4th on Dec 14, 2011 7:08 PM EST via mobile reply actions
thunder and clippers are much better
even the mavs
Still iffy about Hump
confident Hump still only did that well because he was going home to Kim every night. you can’t tell me that wasn’t a major contribution
Uh oh Paul to clippers
http://twitter.com/ESPNSteinLine
ESPNSteinLine Marc Stein
ESPN sources say NBA approval to be issued by night’s end to seal CP3 and 2 future 2nd-rounders to Clips for Gordon/Kaman/Aminu/Sota first
HOW BOUT A 30 TEAM DEAL.
"I think I’m the best point guard in the league. No reason. I just think I’m the best.’’-Deron Williams.
So what is the story about why the Nets couldn't sign Nene???
I haven’t been following for 2 days.
The Nets 64 million over 4 years is better than 66 million over 5 years.
Plus playing with DWill and at the PF position should be a plus for Nene.
What went wrong?
they let go of Nene
Nene is just waiting for the Dwight saga to clear up.
WE ARE Nene’s preferred destination.
Nets decided to go all-in with Dwight, this prompted Nene to re-sign with the Nuggets.
I still have belief we can do IT !
to be honest, Gordon, unprotected lotto pick, Aminu, Kaman is better
than Lopez, Wallace, probable mid-1st pick
but also better than
Bynum, Gasol and late 1st picks
What a haul for the Clips. Sort of what Utah got.
Clippers gave up more than we did for Dwill.
But, Paul is going to extend with the Clips.
@ HowardBeckNYT
Deal done, source says. NBA is back.
-November 26th, 3:17 am.
Wow, Clippers fans are pissed on clipsnation
by dwill8brooklynbound on Dec 14, 2011 7:12 PM EST reply actions
Sure they gave up alot for the future
but now they are relevent. I wanna see CP3 – Griffin oops all day
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I LOVE THIS
FREE DWIGHT
Jet Black Ninja
8 > 3
by NJNM on Dec 14, 2011 10:19 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
damn
i woulda loved to see e gordon and paul together in the back court.
by 1stnamelastname on Dec 14, 2011 7:13 PM EST reply actions
Well, that is that.
Lakers made clippers give up Gordon by joining the talks. They still have Bynum and Gasol, but now with Clippers getting better, Lakers are forced now to get Dwight. Which means Bynum and Gasol are expendable. I really don’t think the Nets can compare to the Lakers offer.
Our only hope now, is that Brook has a break out year in rebounding and defense.
by domininaldo1981 on Dec 14, 2011 7:13 PM EST reply actions
The only way the Nets get Howard
is if he tells the Magic that it is the only team he will sign long term with
LAKERS FAN SHOULD BE IN PANIC
gears r shifting in LA….lakers has to go to worry…..
Definitely….Orlando must be happy.
Lakers will up the ante, and we must also.
@ HowardBeckNYT
Deal done, source says. NBA is back.
-November 26th, 3:17 am.
What else is there left for us to give?
We maxed out our offer and they said no.
by Clayton Balch on Dec 14, 2011 7:16 PM EST up reply actions
3rd time the charm
CPaul going to Clip means LA all in. It is in their court. La gets Dwight. Mav’s get Dwill. We get squat.
I just can't see...
Orlando trading Dwight to the Lakers. I mean, the Lakers, the team that took Shaq from them back in 96. Why would Orlando want to help the Lakers out?
I think the Nets have offered Orlando a solid deal, why are they not taking it? wtf….
...
It would have been more helpful had the Lakers won this
Cause look at what NO got for Paul
To me that is a much better deal in terms of talent then what the Nets offered. We shall see what happens.
Is Bynum and Gasol, late picks
really better than Lopez, Wallace and a pick?
Sure are
At the deadline I’m sure. The dream was fun while it lasted!
Section 18, Row 7 at The Rock!
"Your 2010-2011 New Jersey Nets - It Is What It Is"
they may not even wait at the deadline
if the Lakers do offer Bynum and Gasol, which they didn’t want to do
Guys lets not rule out Lakers
They have a chance to get Howard, just as we do, though I think we have a better one
With the Lakers?
Kidding yourself
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"Your 2010-2011 New Jersey Nets - It Is What It Is"
I don't think its that
its just because Gasol and Bynum have more cache behind their names and would prob be able to sell more tickets than Lopez would
its funny how hornets gm is tryin all he has to get cp3 out of NO before season starts
while magic gm ans FO are convinced that d12 will stay with them long time lol…..smh…they will be cryin in the future once d12 comes to us for free
So let me get this straight
Knicks get Chandler
Nuggets get Nene
Clippers get Chris Paul
Lakers will get Dwight
And we’ve got… a D-League Team.
Billy King at his finest.
i think LA is better off with cp3 and bynum. then maybe we swoop in for dwight because no other team wopuild be able to
i missed the lakers trading for dwight when did that happen
chandler was given away last offseason
nene isnt worth what he got
by mightymosdefinition on Dec 14, 2011 7:36 PM EST up reply actions
D-12 is not a Laker just yet
Still not sure the Lakers would give up Pau and Bynum. Also you better believe there are some western conference teams out there that will help out King to keep D-12 out west. Not over until its over fellas don’t loose hope yet.
"We're not there yet, but we're going somewhere," Johnson said. "And we're going to Brooklyn. We're not going to contract. We're going to Brooklyn."
*To keep D-12 out of the western conferance
"We're not there yet, but we're going somewhere," Johnson said. "And we're going to Brooklyn. We're not going to contract. We're going to Brooklyn."
Are there any other top players in the NBA that King can pull out of his hat that we aren't looking at?
Anyone we’ve missed?
Why are we all so obsessed with Top10 players?
Get the right players and we will be a championship contender
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It will be hard to find a player worth giving up Lopez for.
Dwight makes sense because he would replace Lopez at C.
@NetsROC
Landry on a one year deal pleeeeseeee.
"I think I’m the best point guard in the league. No reason. I just think I’m the best.’’-Deron Williams.
what huh
the nets already traded alot of drafted players
by mightymosdefinition on Dec 14, 2011 7:38 PM EST up reply actions
So does anyone know if Nets made a formal offer for Nene and he rejected? or was it that Nene couldn't wait any longer?
Where did the 64 million over 4 year figure come from if Nets didn’t offer it and Nene rejected?
someone reported we're offering Nene the max
which totals to 4/64.
It’s more than what Nuggets are offering per year (reportedly 5/65 which became 5/67 or so).
But it’s on hold, because of the Dwight issue.
I still have belief we can do IT !
and probably the Nuggets or Nene can't wait
they might have issued an ultimatum.
Thus the “deadline” came up Monday?
I still have belief we can do IT !
Sign Hump.
Sign Landry
Sign AK
Amnesty Outlaw
Lose
Profit???
I typed your symptoms into this thing up here and it says you could have network connectivity problems.
Here's some good news:
Martins the Magic CEO is clearly heavily involved in these negotiations and most likely was the one that rejected our trade to them. He was also the one that said he wasn’t going to let Dwight leave like Shaq did. The guy probably hates the Lakers with a passion and might choose to not send Dwight there. We can only hope.
What Ir been saying
This putz is the one declining ish. Marketing guy running a bball team GFG.
by Special_Delivery on Dec 14, 2011 8:03 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
ChrisMannixSI Chris Mannix
With Bledsoe staying, it’s possible Clippers will just cut Billups. Miami, Orlando feeding frenzy would then ensue.
@ HowardBeckNYT
Deal done, source says. NBA is back.
-November 26th, 3:17 am.
lol Billups
He’s gonna be so mad…. at least he’s making good money
Please get Billups
trade Farmar and sign Landry.
"I think I’m the best point guard in the league. No reason. I just think I’m the best.’’-Deron Williams.
wait
i thought that they couldn’t get rid of Billups for a certain period of time?
unless that’s just about trades…
by bronxbombers2 on Dec 14, 2011 7:21 PM EST up reply actions
they can release him.
"I think I’m the best point guard in the league. No reason. I just think I’m the best.’’-Deron Williams.
Stephen A says if we lose out on Dwight its better than a 50/50 chance that Deron is going to Dallas.
I think it's fine.
So Deron would rather
Lose 30 some Million dollars to play with an old ass Mavs team? Not so sure about that
What will Nets fans say to Billy King if Outlaw isn't Amnestied?
Of course Nets can always trade for a SF later on, or they could make Shawnee Williams their starting PF without spending much.
What is AK47 asking for now to come to Nets?
Shawne williams will resign with the Lakers IMO…
@ HowardBeckNYT
Deal done, source says. NBA is back.
-November 26th, 3:17 am.
Resign???
Official Member of the "DO NOT ABUSE BROOK LOPEZ" Movement
You mean the Knicks?
Knicks won’t give more than 1 year contract or possibly the 2 year mini MLE.
good find. thanks
2010-2011 = acquire an All-Star via cap space as Thorn himself said
2011-2012 = make the playoffs without hindering future flexibility
2012 off-season = sign the second All-Star
2012-2013 = make a run for the championship
Mission accomplished thus far.
This would be EPIC but seriously....I doubt if the Nets get Dwight, that he even plays that particular game.
I think he’ll have to pass his physical, get acclimated to the playbook, and other excuses to avoid this awkward situation for at least this season….
We are screwed.
Lakers will feel desperation. Need to stay relevant beyond Kobe’s old age. They will pony up and give Bynum and Gasol.
We are screwed.
I think it's fine.
WE FEEL DEPRESSION TOO
What makes you say Lakers get Howard instead of us? WE need to be relevant too. We’re in the same boat, but with better assets, (depending on how much Lakers will give up)
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Tell that to Otis Smith.
I think it's fine.
by NetsMets4Life on Dec 14, 2011 7:24 PM EST up reply actions
Tell me his email
Give me a Billy King costume, and set me up a flight and appointment with Otis
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Because they have what the Magic want
And the Lakers will definitely give them up now.
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"Your 2010-2011 New Jersey Nets - It Is What It Is"
Stephen A is saying outside of Brook and Deron we have nobody and its true!
We have a team with Outlaw, Graham, Petro, Shelden Williams, Gaines
just look how bad we are
I agree with that unfortunately...
We had the chance to make some upgrades and it’s passed us by
Sick of seeing...
BK just sit back and wait for a certain team to make up there minds on a deal. Ask, give them a deadline, and if they don’t meet it…move the f on. Damn…
Sundiatta will lead us to the 'ship.
I typed your symptoms into this thing up here and it says you could have network connectivity problems.
by TKFJ on Dec 14, 2011 7:23 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
With CP3 Clippers are a very good team
Official Member of the "DO NOT ABUSE BROOK LOPEZ" Movement
CP3, CRAWFORD(LOL), BUTLER, GRIFFIN AND JORDAN
"I think I’m the best point guard in the league. No reason. I just think I’m the best.’’-Deron Williams.
But does Paul resign with them
He could easily walk away after the season.
He is supposedly fine with them long term.
I think it's fine.
by NetsMets4Life on Dec 14, 2011 7:25 PM EST up reply actions
He has one year extension so at least Clips have two years
of Paul and Griffin
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paul to griffin? damn
Jersey Strong, Brooklyn Ready
by BrettGardnerLF on Dec 14, 2011 7:25 PM EST up reply actions
It is easier to deal with League than with
Magic FO and ownership.
Official Member of the "DO NOT ABUSE BROOK LOPEZ" Movement
I don't know whether to blame BK, Howard of DWill for losing Nene.
This is a disgrace.
ORL will want more than Clippers gave for CP3 and Nets can’t offer that.
None of the teams Howard mentioned can.
last hope is for Dwight to just walk away after the season
and hopefully Deron can still convince him to move here
I still have belief we can do IT !
This guy is always on 1050.
"I think I’m the best point guard in the league. No reason. I just think I’m the best.’’-Deron Williams.
Hornets did the classic rebuild move
Draft picks, young players, and flexibility.
Orlando wants to continue and try to win (which they won’t) and be mediocre for the next 4 years.
Section 18, Row 7 at The Rock!
"Your 2010-2011 New Jersey Nets - It Is What It Is"
Where are we at currently haha?
Flexible mediocrity?
Bottom of the barrel
At this point, sign 1 year deals and try and put together something next year and get a good draft pick. That’s really about it.
Dwight will be headed to LA I’m pretty sure.
Section 18, Row 7 at The Rock!
"Your 2010-2011 New Jersey Nets - It Is What It Is"
It will go to waste...
They seem to have no sense of urgency on putting a competitive team on the court in NJ. Wait till they move…they might end up losing DWill in the process though. :(
We are the unluckiest SOBs ever.
I think it's fine.
by NetsMets4Life on Dec 14, 2011 7:28 PM EST up reply actions
and there were those who said the Hornets' crazy GM was right
to have agreed to Martin, Scola, Odom
The league did a better job GM’ing for NO.
One year of effort in NetsDaily has gone down to tubes.
Why are so many people still posting when Hope is just about gone.
Because Hope is still there
and you guys are just in a mad state of depression
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there's hope
We are Nets fans after all.
Ain’t over ‘til it’s over.
I still have belief we can do IT !
everyone is teaming up with young partners to develop with
lebron/wade..to a smaller extent bosh
stat/melo
paul/griffin
now why would dwight want to team up with an aging kobe? dwight imo will force his way to nj.
Jersey Strong, Brooklyn Ready
He wants to be in LA
If the Magic accept the Lakers trade, he will be a Laker for the rest of his career.
Section 18, Row 7 at The Rock!
"Your 2010-2011 New Jersey Nets - It Is What It Is"
so what happens when kobe retires?
he`s tagged as the guy who cant win by himself?
Jersey Strong, Brooklyn Ready
by BrettGardnerLF on Dec 14, 2011 7:30 PM EST up reply actions
Players flock to LA
To play for the Lakers and the great Dwight Howard.
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"Your 2010-2011 New Jersey Nets - It Is What It Is"
dont get me wrong if traded there im sure hed sign long term
however. im sure he`s thought about that, and thats going into his decision
Jersey Strong, Brooklyn Ready
by BrettGardnerLF on Dec 14, 2011 7:31 PM EST up reply actions
I'm the ultimate pessimist...
but I don’t believe he wants the Lakers. I believe Deron has him convinced to join us.
agreed
I’m not convinced either way, but I’ve by no means lost hope. I’m not sure the Lakers will give up both Pau and Bynum (Kobe will protest) and I’m not sure Dwight doesn’t still favor the Nets.
tl;dr: I’m not sure about anything anymore
by sheepareevil on Dec 14, 2011 7:37 PM EST up reply actions
Feel good for the Clippers at least.
Too bad we are screwed.
Same old, same old.
I typed your symptoms into this thing up here and it says you could have network connectivity problems.
We are screwed, dude.
I think it's fine.
by NetsMets4Life on Dec 14, 2011 7:30 PM EST up reply actions
well..
I would trade Griffin and Jordan for Howard.
"I think I’m the best point guard in the league. No reason. I just think I’m the best.’’-Deron Williams.
Attn: ND or NI
Quick …. post a pic of the Barclays Center
We need something to smile about.
I still have belief we can do IT !
Im Just Saying Im a Fan..
Because He Tell It Like It Is…
But He Said Avery Should Lighten up.. because players will Turn there Back on em
I predicted this problem last year, with Brook Lopez being to soft for ORL to want him.
The Mono was what started this problem.
Im usually very optimistic…
But this isn’t looking good right now. Anyone have any positives?
@ HowardBeckNYT
Deal done, source says. NBA is back.
-November 26th, 3:17 am.
Alot of positives
We have youth, Dwill still is on the Nets, Howard isn’t on the Lakers
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Um... last we heard
LA wasn’t giving up Bynum and Gasol for Dwight?
But I’m almost positive that changes. And soon.
Section 18, Row 7 at The Rock!
"Your 2010-2011 New Jersey Nets - It Is What It Is"
I don't think Orlando will trade with the Lakers.
After Shaq in ‘96 and losing to them in the finals a couple years ago. I don’t see it.
I don't think Otis is calling the shots.
Upper management is aka Martins. Guy hates the Lakers.
by Clayton Balch on Dec 14, 2011 7:35 PM EST up reply actions
Chandler would..
have been the perfect choice to play along side Brook. Now we got no one. Re-sign Hump please.
I would love to see a confidence "how are you feeling about the nets" graph
like the one thats on the front page, but in hour increments
"I don't care if you gotta FLY... You bettah have my doughNUTS!"
another rough year ahead
at least we still have each other, right? …right?
makes sense
then we’ll have 4 point guards and no bigs
Ugh
Ian_OConnor Ian O’Connor
Gotta believe Chris Paul to the Clippers hurts the Nets. Now the Lakers have Bynum & Gasol to throw at Orlando for Dwight Howard.
I think it's fine.
We'll it's the truth
He makes a good point
If they thought that
We’d be tuning into the Dwight Howard press conference tomorrow.
Section 18, Row 7 at The Rock!
"Your 2010-2011 New Jersey Nets - It Is What It Is"
There are five stages of grief
Denial, anger, bargaining, depression and acceptance.
I believe we have seen the Magic go through Denial, are currently stuck in Anger, about to go into bargaining.
23 year old 7 footer who scores 20 points a game
Without mentioning a name i don’t care who you are, that’s an attractive piece for ANY team.
Now name those stats Brook Lopez and automatically he’s not good enough because the Nets suck and aren’t capable of producing anything good. lol How sad is that…
it's pathetic
Nets get no respect. Not even the “unbiased” sports experts give us any credit for ANYTHING. lol
Apparently lol
I think I’m going to apply for the GM spot in Orlando. I hear theres going to be an opening soon.
You'll be my first signing
First thing on the agena….
Trade all assets worth a damn to NJ. Stupidity is rewarded there so we’ll probably get raises! hahaha
Depends on how hard the guys been working out
you know Pujols got 254mil for 10 yrs, Outlaws agent may use that against us
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I don't think they thought there was a need
Until maybe now.
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"Your 2010-2011 New Jersey Nets - It Is What It Is"
Offer that? As if its so great??
Gasol will be happy to be on Orlando w no Howard and no chance?
Absurd….
Bynum is never healthy and I dont think hes better than Lopez when he is
It’s ultimately in Dwight’s hands to agree to extend there or not.
L.A. with Kobe
or
Brooklyn with Deron
I don’t have a strong feeling one way or the other on what he’d do.
"This isn’t fantasy or rotisserie basketball. Why would Denver want Outlaw? Would you?" - Al Iannazzone
by strange-brew on Dec 14, 2011 7:39 PM EST up reply actions
It's not enough
2010-2011 = acquire an All-Star via cap space as Thorn himself said
2011-2012 = make the playoffs without hindering future flexibility
2012 off-season = sign the second All-Star
2012-2013 = make a run for the championship
Mission accomplished thus far.
Who do we sign to patch together a team?
Get to work BK.
I typed your symptoms into this thing up here and it says you could have network connectivity problems.
TOUGH QUESTION
Is lopez wallace picks and salary relief
BETTER THAN
Bynum gasol minimal picks and no relief?
yes, hes so smart
lewis is enjoying every penny of his 6 year 118 million contract on the wizards bench.
Like what?
I believe him but I think Billy has been outplayed here
Gasol will be happy on go nowhere Orlando Team?
Bynum will be out of the league in 5 years — his knees are basically done. Lopez hasnt missed a game in 3 years. That package (Gasol and Bynum) sucks for the future.
still here man…chill as an ice cube
@ HowardBeckNYT
Deal done, source says. NBA is back.
-November 26th, 3:17 am.
Im with you buddy
Nothing is done until Dwight is in a different uniform.
by djeterfan on Dec 14, 2011 8:07 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
wow
Well the nets tried what. Else could tthey. Do
My lil man.....can't tell me god don't exist.
by killa kadafi191 on Dec 14, 2011 7:36 PM EST via mobile reply actions
That's not even close to correct sentence structure!
Timeless - The 2001-2003 NJ Nets
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nima3dmLrcw
yes i typed it on a phone
Why are u picturing a phone in the shape of a banana?
My lil man.....can't tell me god don't exist.
by killa kadafi191 on Dec 14, 2011 7:53 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
you mean a regular flip phone?
just yellow? its shaped like a banana and its yellow
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Sometimes a banana is just a banana.
-Simeon Freud.
Timeless - The 2001-2003 NJ Nets
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nima3dmLrcw
That's just pointless
The Nets should be hoarding their assets.
I like Crash, but he’s not keeping DWill here.
Oh pissing blimey there's jam coming out of the walls!
If our hope is to land Dwight come March...
Then we can’t make any significant moves now. Man, are we going to suck.
Nets will make the playoffs...
I will argue the nets over 3 teams who made the playoffs last year:
Philly
Bucks
Indiana
Deron is better than every player on those teams. Lopez is better than 98% of them. Not to mention, BK will bring in at least 2 more players to help the roster.
Indiana is deep with young unproven talent...
Dwill far superior than every player. Lopez is better than every player. Morrow is a better shooter than every player. I would argue that farmar is a better PG than their starting PG. Brooks may turn out to be a better scorer than 98% of that team. Nets fans need to chill and stop with the dramatics…
What do you think of the Bynum Gasol for Howard trade?
whats the likelihood?
excuse my bad english please
Didn't David beat Goliath?
I’m not worried about the Lakers. Dwight wants to be the man. He wants to begin a history not be part of one. Long line of Laker big men to fall behind. Still not flinching. Dwight will be in a Nets uniform. BOOK IT
Again you would also have to think
A western conference team or two will contact King to keep D-12 out of LA.
"We're not there yet, but we're going somewhere," Johnson said. "And we're going to Brooklyn. We're not going to contract. We're going to Brooklyn."
WHY WHY WHY
Hasnt ESPN reported that Dwight has told the MAgic Trade me or you will lose me??? They are still reporting that trade talk are dead!
by jerz4life on Dec 14, 2011 7:38 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
yeah
VERY ODD indeed, what in the world they usually jump all over every little thing
by Andrew Flynn on Dec 14, 2011 7:40 PM EST up reply actions
Because it favors the Nets
The last time i heard anything good said about the Nets on ESPN was when Kidd was leading us to the finals. Everyone hates on the Nets.
mite as well trade deron
Its.over…lakers will get dwight….our.franchise is mushed…rebuilding time…OUR ONLY HOPE IS DWIGHT HOWARD SAYING TRADE ME TO NJ OR IM WALKING
by netsfan247 on Dec 14, 2011 7:39 PM EST via mobile reply actions
yeah man
definitely. Your totally right. We’re screwed. Defs how we should be thinkin. BK can’t get us Dwight no way, he only got us Deron. Uh huh. Yeah, defs
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LOL @ Orlando
trying to “win now” around Jameer Nelson, Bynum, Gasol, and Larry Hughes. Oh, and Hedo and Duhon’s contract.
by JackTr1pper on Dec 14, 2011 7:39 PM EST reply actions 2 recs
THIS!!!!
METS JETS NETS LAKERS........... OFWGKTA....FREE EARL. Odd Future Records.
Adam Morrison got his team multiple championships barely trying, if that's not a great player...I don't know who is.
by YoungMoney24 on Dec 14, 2011 7:39 PM EST up reply actions
one thing is for sure never trust what the nets fo says publicly
- " were out of the carmela sweepstakes" (proky)
-“we want to build a good team this year, you dont always need superteams” (billy king)
Jersey Strong, Brooklyn Ready
How about I don't want to see melodrama again
Official Member of the "DO NOT ABUSE BROOK LOPEZ" Movement
DWIGHT OR BUST!
Oh moiso… did we already bust?
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"Your 2010-2011 New Jersey Nets - It Is What It Is"
C'mon billy
Carl Landry of the bench pleeeeeseee.
"I think I’m the best point guard in the league. No reason. I just think I’m the best.’’-Deron Williams.
So the Lakers will be jumping all over the Dwight trade now
They wont settle for second place in LA.
We're DONE!!
I live in LA and every talk show is saying that Lakers are going all in now for Dwight, Pau, Bynum, picks, doesn’t matter… This will happen, watch!! We just lost Dwight!!! Sick to my stomach!!
lol could be worse
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Adam Morrison got his team multiple championships barely trying, if that's not a great player...I don't know who is.
by YoungMoney24 on Dec 14, 2011 7:44 PM EST up reply actions
they have a MUCH more relaxed community
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Adam Morrison got his team multiple championships barely trying, if that's not a great player...I don't know who is.
by YoungMoney24 on Dec 14, 2011 7:44 PM EST up reply actions
Because Lakers fans think they are the best
They wont talk about the Clippers being better then them. On to Dwight the Lakers go….
You Chicken Little catz make me laugh!
Haha!
by boogeewon on Dec 14, 2011 7:44 PM EST via mobile reply actions
No
"This isn’t fantasy or rotisserie basketball. Why would Denver want Outlaw? Would you?" - Al Iannazzone
by strange-brew on Dec 14, 2011 7:46 PM EST up reply actions
No
Dwight to Jersey won’t be happening tonight lol. Count on the Lakers to jump in now that CP3 is a Clipper.
Nope
They are going to hold him until the deadline IMO
by dwill8brooklynbound on Dec 14, 2011 7:47 PM EST up reply actions
Not if Lakers
give them Bynum and Pau… They make that trade right now…
We thought they would want to rebuild, they don’t!
Not a chance in hell
Section 18, Row 7 at The Rock!
"Your 2010-2011 New Jersey Nets - It Is What It Is"
i dont understand how
the magic could trade their prize to he lakers:
The team that took shaq from them in 96
the team that beat them in the nba finals.
think about it, if the magic had one, dwight would probably have already signed this extension
Not for Dwight it isn't
All of the picks would be in the 20’s anyway
by dwill8brooklynbound on Dec 14, 2011 7:48 PM EST up reply actions
It’s worth it for Dwight and Lebron type players that can carry franchises , those players don’t come around too often.
"This isn’t fantasy or rotisserie basketball. Why would Denver want Outlaw? Would you?" - Al Iannazzone
by strange-brew on Dec 14, 2011 7:48 PM EST up reply actions
SWEEET
Nets might wear these…in case no one knew already.
Outlaw BTW…LMFAO
@ HowardBeckNYT
Deal done, source says. NBA is back.
-November 26th, 3:17 am.
swag
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Adam Morrison got his team multiple championships barely trying, if that's not a great player...I don't know who is.
by YoungMoney24 on Dec 14, 2011 7:47 PM EST up reply actions
Now that Nene's gone... any other alternatives to Dwight.
I’d like to point at Dirk’s team, which just showed that you don’t need superstars.
The problem is right now we have no one who is even decent besides our guards. Seriously: the only non-guard who is any good is Brook.
Long shot
But say we give up on the Dwight dream, I like Afflalo alot. Offer as much as possible, hope Denver doesn’t match (although with Nene back,unlikely I guess). Hope Lopez’s off-season work with Hakeem pays off and rebound weakness reaaly was due to mono and re-sign Hump. Don’t think it’s a terrible team with Deron at the point, Morrow at SG, Lopez at C, Afflalo at SF and Hump at PF, especially if Marshon plays well off the bench. But seems like Denver will match any offer Afflalo gets
Has Nene actually signed his contract and reported to camp?
Remember how David West agreed to go to the Celts but then changed his mind and signed with Indiana?
Jerry the Nene thing was like 10,000 NetsDaily years ago
let it go
by sheepareevil on Dec 14, 2011 7:49 PM EST up reply actions
I just read it on NBATV
I refused to look at NetsDaily for 2 days out of Nene fear.
This
If Orl isn’t trading Dwight, might as well give us a little update
by dwill8brooklynbound on Dec 14, 2011 7:49 PM EST up reply actions
The Lakers were never getting Paul anyway
they were trying to get him for Gasol, the NBA was not going to trade CP3 to LA for a package centered around Gasol or whatever pieces Gasol could net them in a 3 way trade.
I don’t see how CP3 going to the Clips really changes anything. The Lakers were not getting Paul anyway. No way, no how.
if your dwight do u want lakers or nets
by netsfan247 on Dec 14, 2011 7:48 PM EST via mobile reply actions
"Heys Nets fans, if you were Dwight would you want the Nets or those damn Lakers?"
by sheepareevil on Dec 14, 2011 7:51 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
LMAO
hahahaha
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Adam Morrison got his team multiple championships barely trying, if that's not a great player...I don't know who is.
by YoungMoney24 on Dec 14, 2011 7:52 PM EST up reply actions
Nets
Make history not be a part of it.
Create your own brand, not live Kobe’s.
Play in a 1bil dollar arena or share an older arena with the Clippers?
Movie deals? NYC is where most of them are filmed anyway. lol
play with a 34 year old star who is declining or a young star PG with many years left?
It’s obvious the Nets are the best choice.
Nets attendance this season:
6,500 per game.
Nets attendance at Barclays:
5500.
Score of preseason games against the Knicks
140 – 88 (L)
126- 75 (L)
wow thats a heck of a scoring performance by us
but seriously lets not kid like that
by Prash Ramani on Dec 14, 2011 7:50 PM EST up reply actions
You seriously underrate Dwill
If we bring Hump back, it’s essentially the same team as last year except with the rooks. Last years team beat the Knicks, and played close against NYK and CHI. Why can’t we do it again this year with a healthy Dwill.
by dwill8brooklynbound on Dec 14, 2011 7:52 PM EST up reply actions
You mean beat the Celtics?
Section 18, Row 7 at The Rock!
"Your 2010-2011 New Jersey Nets - It Is What It Is"
Um...
help defense? Resign Hump? Zone defense?
You honestly don’t think Avery hasnt thought of that mismatch ?
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Otis said: whatever offers we have on the table now will be there in 3 months
even if he liked Pau+Bynum that much he will wait it out until March
But taking Hedo back might no longer exist depending on what Billy adds. He’s got to be careful.
"This isn’t fantasy or rotisserie basketball. Why would Denver want Outlaw? Would you?" - Al Iannazzone
by strange-brew on Dec 14, 2011 7:51 PM EST up reply actions
Otis has til the end of December
That’s when Dwight’s incentive to get that extra bit of money for the extension w/ his new team will expire. I believe it’s something like 5 years $105 million.
this is so flawed
if this sorry excuse for a general manager would to sit down and make a damn pros- cons list and realize that dwight wont sign anywhere but NETS or LAKERS and hes not going to get anything more than what he already knows he might end up with. better take the deal and have a full season of development with your new guys instead of just wasting the year in the near impossible hope that dwight resigns.
So we pray Lopez becomes super stud
And Bynum gets injured as usual?
Section 18, Row 7 at The Rock!
"Your 2010-2011 New Jersey Nets - It Is What It Is"
He takes care of that on his own
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"Your 2010-2011 New Jersey Nets - It Is What It Is"
by eLonepb on Dec 14, 2011 7:56 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Gasol is gonna look bad
he’s not happy about his name being thrown out there in trade talks and he’s getting older, you watched him in the playoffs… that contract is only gonna look uglier and uglier
also
Pau was not happy about going to Houston anyone thinks he’ll be OK with going to ORL who would not look much better than the Rox?
well I dont think they give a rats ass what Pau thinks
by sheepareevil on Dec 14, 2011 8:02 PM EST up reply actions
eh
if they can’t see that a healthy 23 year old 20 ppg center is better for your future than a perennially injured, poor attitude center, than I’m not banking on them not overvaluing Pau either.
by sheepareevil on Dec 14, 2011 8:05 PM EST up reply actions
The great myth in the Bynum Lopez debate
For Lopez:
13-8
19-8
20-6
And most important 82 games
Bynum the last 3 years:
14-8
15-8
11-9
50, 65, 54 games played…
His numbers barely touch lopez’s and that’s including his BS “breakout year” before the Pau trade (14-8). So much hype, little substance.
by TheMo on Dec 14, 2011 7:50 PM EST reply actions 2 recs
i really dont understand
why bynum is better
by Prash Ramani on Dec 14, 2011 7:51 PM EST up reply actions
It's the hypocrisy that gets me.
First people argue that Lopez >>>>>>> Bynum.
Then they say Bynum + Gasol is enough to get Dwight.
I guess Gasol = Michael Jordan.
2010-2011 = acquire an All-Star via cap space as Thorn himself said
2011-2012 = make the playoffs without hindering future flexibility
2012 off-season = sign the second All-Star
2012-2013 = make a run for the championship
Mission accomplished thus far.
the problem is most of the NBA doesn't think Lopez is better than Bynum
that see Bynum as the superior. add another all-star big to that? I fail to see how this isn’t a better offer, and it’s most likely gonna come down to what deal Otis likes better.
by sheepareevil on Dec 14, 2011 7:53 PM EST up reply actions
Why haven't more people been writing to @bkdefend?
Only 3 of us wrote to him a few days ago to tell him that the fans would be supporting him if he got Nene and not Dwight.
Had that been 200 people, maybe Billy King would have paid attention.
Sheep
that was meant for Jerry… He thinks Billy is going to listen to people who tweet him… Its absolutely insane, and a waste of the BK’s time… ifhe even decides to read.
i know
i was “lol okay”ing Jerry’s insinuation that if more Nets fans had tweeted their GM, he would have made a different potentially franchise-changing decision.
by sheepareevil on Dec 14, 2011 7:59 PM EST up reply actions
There is so much I want to say about that
but I’ve been warned several times… Have to bite my tongue, and I assure you its not easy…
hah agreed
just go “oh, Jerry!” and move on
by sheepareevil on Dec 14, 2011 8:07 PM EST up reply actions
Absolutely. BK isn't Melo.
He has to care what fans think as well as Proky. Everyone (DWill, Dwight) was putting pressure on BK to sign Howard or else.
What I DON’t know is whether BK WAS trying to get Nene to sign, but Nene really was just trying to use the Nets to get Denver to up their offer.
Noone has answered that question. It wouldn’t be BK’s fault if Nene was never going to sign as long as Denver increased their offer.
IMO
I think as Legler said ealier today… If Dwight wants a chance (because it’s not really guaranteed), to win now then maybe he chooses the Lakers. But the move to Brooklyn and chance of playing with his boy D-will who is younger and BK adding nice young pieces to go along with those 2 really entices him. Not to mention of course as we all know a brand new billion dollar arena in which DH12 will headline and make bank $$$… I tend to believe he ultimately prefers the Nets over the Lakers even though LA will always be a city in which players are intrigued by!
This team is not that good
Dwight Howard
Hedo Turkoglu | Josh McRoberts
Metta World Peace | Matt Barnes | Luke Walton
Kobe Bryant | Shanon Brown | Jason Kapono
Derrick Fisher | Steve Blake
"I think I’m the best point guard in the league. No reason. I just think I’m the best.’’-Deron Williams.
Brown left
"This isn’t fantasy or rotisserie basketball. Why would Denver want Outlaw? Would you?" - Al Iannazzone
by strange-brew on Dec 14, 2011 7:53 PM EST up reply actions
put in gerald green then.
"I think I’m the best point guard in the league. No reason. I just think I’m the best.’’-Deron Williams.
no more UPS
METS JETS NETS LAKERS........... OFWGKTA....FREE EARL. Odd Future Records.
Adam Morrison got his team multiple championships barely trying, if that's not a great player...I don't know who is.
by YoungMoney24 on Dec 14, 2011 7:54 PM EST up reply actions
And I prefer Bynum as a prospect over Lopez
and even so, Bynum and Gasol is not appealing to me.
Gasol is on a terrible contract. Where is the financial savings? Where are the draft picks? Young players? (other than Bynum)
You know, stuff that stars are usually traded for…
2010-2011 = acquire an All-Star via cap space as Thorn himself said
2011-2012 = make the playoffs without hindering future flexibility
2012 off-season = sign the second All-Star
2012-2013 = make a run for the championship
Mission accomplished thus far.
Clearly...
They are not looking to rebuild… If they were, NETS deal would almost be impossible to beat.
again
Otis does not think like us. he seems more willing to be a mediocre, playoff caliber but nothing higher team rather than blow it up and start over, as evidenced by the J-Rich and Big Baby signings. he’d probably love to remain an 8th seed after this is al ldone.
by sheepareevil on Dec 14, 2011 7:54 PM EST up reply actions
Oh, is that what this is about? Psychoanalyzing another team's GM. ... Ok, I'll just leave for the night and come back tomorrow, then.
Good night.
2010-2011 = acquire an All-Star via cap space as Thorn himself said
2011-2012 = make the playoffs without hindering future flexibility
2012 off-season = sign the second All-Star
2012-2013 = make a run for the championship
Mission accomplished thus far.
you should know by now that we anaylze everything to death around here
and everything points to Otis being stubborn to rebuild, more willing to be mediocre and still sell 1st round playoff tickets than truly rebuild.
by sheepareevil on Dec 14, 2011 8:00 PM EST up reply actions
how?
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Adam Morrison got his team multiple championships barely trying, if that's not a great player...I don't know who is.
by YoungMoney24 on Dec 14, 2011 7:55 PM EST up reply actions
have you heard of the Titanic? Yes, that happened.
DWill oop to D12
Otis Smith makes Travis Outlaw look like Avery Johnson
how dare you sleep on us?
LOL
Just read the headlines … they sum everything up.
I still have belief we can do IT !
This all went wrong last summer. Look where the Knicks are. Started with us striking out on every FA and especially the PF’s. They get Amare, then add two studs. We got nothing, then added added a stud, but one that can walk. Not good.
he wont leave us
we tried, he tried. but it is the fault of the orlando magic
by Prash Ramani on Dec 14, 2011 7:54 PM EST up reply actions
The big difference between Lakers situation and Nets situation is that :
Lakers can afford to wait, and still they will be a top 5 or 6 team in NBA with great attendance etc.
Nets have no team and if BK starts signing FAs he loses flexibility.
Had BK just signed Nene, at least Brook could have proved himself to be better than ORL thought. They could have happened at deadline.
Otis taunting BK
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by GRob1211 on Dec 14, 2011 7:55 PM EST reply actions 3 recs
This trade is done NOT
I think it's fine.
by NetsMets4Life on Dec 14, 2011 7:55 PM EST up reply actions
No statement from the Nets or BK?
I guess they’re still working on it then.
hahaha
They just don’t know what to say.
“well Nets fans, we tried. Sorry…. Epic Failure. On the bright side Outlaw will be ready for full contact on Friday! Have no fear, we have another plan A, B, C, D, AND a new E for next offseason. We are confident that with the added E plan we will increase our odds of accomplishing something! Go Nets!”
So is Hump going to be the Big signing for the Nets?
Back to 8 million to start for 5 years?
AK at 8 million for 5 years too?
Nets now will have to pay a premium price because they won’t expect DWill to stay.
I think we need to pull out a GREAT offer
like lopez farmar d james and picks along with wallace from portland
for
dwight hedo and duhon.
you guys are dreaming
Kobe is argubly best player to play the game..lets be real…granted deron wud.be better match…kobe.n.dwight is.also gross….DWIGHT NEEDS TO DEMAND TRADE OR ELSE were done……
by netsfan247 on Dec 14, 2011 7:56 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Howard no trade talks thing is bs
This is media control tactics, well done Otis- but, Howard WILL be moved for sure or they will get zero in return. Otis isn’t that dumb. I still say Nets get him sooner than later.
We shouldv'e gotten
Lamar Odom
"I think I’m the best point guard in the league. No reason. I just think I’m the best.’’-Deron Williams.
If this is true, time for Otis to give him up
what a statement though “Trade Me or Lose Me”
Dwight or Bust
Nets lose 33+ games this season.
Follow @Meer2Fly16
Otis interpretes that as
Bynum or We’ll Stay With Me
Turkoglu interprets it as ball me now or ball me for nothing.
Dwight or Bust
Nets lose 33+ games this season.
Follow @Meer2Fly16
The best interview with the least about of words.
Dwight or Bust
Nets lose 33+ games this season.
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Guys Nets are definetely not out of it yet
Im sure orlando will be calling by trade deadline
Stephen A thinks Kobe might demand a trade before the season is over
"We're not there yet, but we're going somewhere," Johnson said. "And we're going to Brooklyn. We're not going to contract. We're going to Brooklyn."
No lol
Didn’t say where but I guess it was his convo he replayed last night with Tim Legler, they both think the Lakers will not making it back to prominence and Kobe will want to be traded based on past moves as well. Barring a D-12 trade which could shake things up.
"We're not there yet, but we're going somewhere," Johnson said. "And we're going to Brooklyn. We're not going to contract. We're going to Brooklyn."
NBA should start implementing drugs testing
Kobe wants a trade, for what reason?and to where? and look at his contract. Wow, now I see why there was a lockout, to postpone this mess lol
Dwight or Bust
Nets lose 33+ games this season.
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KOBE 2 ORLANDOZ???
KOBE
LARRY HUGHES
CHRIS DUHON
VON WAFER
THAT IS A CONTENDER, OTIS WAS RIGHT!
by JackTr1pper on Dec 14, 2011 8:15 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
Of course
When Kobe isn’t happy he demands trades. This is the deciding factor on where Dwight Howard will go. The NBA can’t have an unhappy Kobe Bryant!
Bayless: Healthy Bynum=best center in the league
Stephen A: Hahahahahahahahaa
commercial break
Bayless: Why do you disagree?
Stephen A: I don’t, I’m just laughing at the fact that that’s the most ridiculous statement your capable of making. Watch and learn.
Two days later:
Stephen A: Kobe might demand a trade before season’s end.
10 more years of irrelevance
This whole business is sad. We got played as usual. Who knows we may sign Howard tomorrow or never, but right now we’re getting played. Lakers have us by the testes, and are bout to squeeze. Dwight to LA, don’t think any of you realize how catastrophic that is for the Nets
im sick of waiting for the next season becaise nothing happens
2010 we had the most cap and got Outlaw and Petro
2011 we struck out again
2012 we can lose Deron
I'm so confused
“It says Dwight demands trade”
I read the thread and everyone is jumping off the bridge. What has everyone so pessimistic? What happened since I been gone
by nwkiddnj on Dec 14, 2011 8:00 PM EST via iPhone app reply actions
Lol so everyone assumes Lakers are going to add Gasol in the trade package?
Did anything get leaked from the lakers?
by nwkiddnj on Dec 14, 2011 8:04 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
Lopez is going to shut a lot of people up this coming year...
by aug93 on Dec 14, 2011 8:00 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
New Jersey would have Deron Williams, a slew of awful contracts, deep pockets and the Brooklyn thing going. There’s a ton going on, no question. I like the Howard/Williams pairing, absolutely. But that’s not a guaranteed title contender for a couple of years … at least.
Simmons is such a tool, he then flip flops and talks about Orlando’s decent situation. Not guarintee a title for sure but you add peaces, and I discredit the years…..at least thing I know he means when Hedo is gone but still Dwight Deron and build he just can’t stand to give the nets respect. Then he goes o nabout how great, a market, trading partner and title contedner bulls and clipsare pshh.
"Next year, with a full training camp, I think he can go after that Scott Skiles' record of 30." - Billy King
he rags on the Nets cause that's what people like to read
he plays to his audience all the time. he’s an entertainment writer more than a sportswriter, don’t take him seriously.
by sheepareevil on Dec 14, 2011 8:03 PM EST up reply actions
Kobe is a punk
Everyone talks about lebron being a coward but kobe was drafted to the lakers with a great team and the minute his team was crap, he wanted out until pau gasol came around. Over hyped player in my opinion
One of the most overrated player I've ever seen
Dwight or Bust
Nets lose 33+ games this season.
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Can't wait for the draft!
LOL
Gheee, chilax people.
It’s not the end of the world.
It’s going to be an exciting season.
I still have belief we can do IT !
wait guys why is everyone bugging out i aint scared of the lakers
i m sure fegan wont screw us like that
think about a world where
the clippers are ruling LA,
where the Nets rule NY with Dwight Howard and Deron Williams,
it could happen!
excuse my bad english please
Who plays SG for the Clips?
Mo Williams.
@ HowardBeckNYT
Deal done, source says. NBA is back.
-November 26th, 3:17 am.
This is going to be fun to watch
Gordon is going to average 30+ PPG on that Hornets team.
Dwight or Bust
Nets lose 33+ games this season.
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Oh to add to the joy
We just dragged our 20PPG center through the media as a trade asset.
Let’s see what he thinks about resigning with the Nets.
Section 18, Row 7 at The Rock!
"Your 2010-2011 New Jersey Nets - It Is What It Is"
No wonder we're getting Howard then.
Dwight or Bust
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and we'll keep dragging him and the team through the season
This is Carmelo again, verbatim. Ruin our chemistryand team dynamic all season with trade talk, then strike out, and have nothing to show for, but this time when we strike out, we’re done
something tells me Brook doesn't pay too much mind to the media
I mean we didn’t hear a peep out of him for months during the lockout until he was in Hawaii with his brother or whatever. I think the Melo saga would have numbed him to trade talk distractions by now.
by sheepareevil on Dec 14, 2011 8:07 PM EST up reply actions
He isn't fazed at all by the talks
I really want him to stay. Screw Howard, unless its free agency
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So the feeling is this is basically a done deal?
by nwkiddnj on Dec 14, 2011 8:07 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
No to Orlando
SpearsNBAYahoo: Agent Andy Miller tells Yahoo! that Clippers won’t be waiving Chauncey Billups.
"We're not there yet, but we're going somewhere," Johnson said. "And we're going to Brooklyn. We're not going to contract. We're going to Brooklyn."
billups must be pissed
A day ago: “Imma be oop-in to Griffin all dayyyy”
Now: “Why did they even sign me…. sigh…”
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We are not done at all
Is Howard wearing a Lakers jersey? No. We’re still in it until he is. No guarantee that the Magic accept that Bynum/Pau offer.
No guarantee they even offer both for Howard
by nwkiddnj on Dec 14, 2011 8:08 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
The Knicks will get him
SamAmicoFSO Sam Amico
Cavaliers have waived Baron Davis via NBA’s new amnesty clause.
The Knicks are scaring me:
Davis
Fields
Anthony
Stoudemire
Chandler
DWill all the way to the Finals!! some day, very close...
Dear God
BD is no washed up PG either.
Dwight or Bust
Nets lose 33+ games this season.
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why would they get him...
They currently have:
Bibby
Douglas
Shuppert
what does this mean?
@kevinding Derek Fisher to me on CP3 resolution: “Approaching the start on Christmas Day, it’s important we get as much focus on the court as possible”
by netsyankees4life on Dec 14, 2011 8:09 PM EST reply actions
you think this is good for us? means they are content with what they have
by netsyankees4life on Dec 14, 2011 8:11 PM EST up reply actions
My guess
as a vet on the team, he’s just saying that, which is what he should say. Nobody is going ot say, “Well, yeah, as a player, the trade talks will affect is alot and may deter our game.”
Players don’t decide if the team is content, owners and GMs do.
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seeing the words
Dwight asked for trade to nj was the worst thing i ever seened …makes it.hurt that much more
by netsfan247 on Dec 14, 2011 8:10 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Wait till off-season
Offer Howard a chance to play with Deron and Josh Smith (via trade) – sign him outright
Fan Appreciation Night this year
A new fan will be chosen each game to play the SF and PF position.
Section 18, Row 7 at The Rock!
"Your 2010-2011 New Jersey Nets - It Is What It Is"
I think you got the faces mixed up.
Dwight owns BK.
lol messed up but made me laugh
"Dear Mark - You showed the world not only what a great team you have, but also, that you can remain silent for a period of weeks--I don't know which is more shocking!"
DWill Era- 7-18
If I was ORL, I would wait until the trade deadline and get Clippers to trade Griffin for Howard.
I know that Clippers say they won’t trade Griffin, but he isn’t a ROBOT like Howard.
Howard > Griffin and will be for at least 5 more years.
Then Howard will get his wish if being with CP3.
ORL will be able to explore more options closer to the trade deadline.
And as soon as Nets start signing FAs, some of their flexibility goes away.
Dwight will be a net.
He wants to come to Jersey. He’ll end where he wants eventually Lakers ain’t that likely or attractive for Dwight.Can’t even be 100% he’d sign there without Paul.With the shaq thing and an aging Kobe. He likely would but still. Also do orl want to lose to the lakers again. Dwight is not likely to make free agency but if he does I’d be happy forget the mavs right now they don’t have space. Lakers have no space in free agency/.
Deron is already here and getting sold on the franchise every day by management. Young Lopez is better then old Dirk and of course we have space for two max deals and can work with Lopez’ cap hold to add more pieces which will want to play here. Mavs cannot as their space would be gone with three max not that they have the space, we could go over cap for Lopez. Mavs are not a threat. If Dwighth its free agency hes a net.
Only concern is if he might get traded to the lakers but like we saw with Melo he’ll probably go the prefered destination. Doesn’t seem like Lakers are upping the offer anyway. Dwight will be a net and it would be even better if it was through free agency. Knowing what we now know the Dwight want us no. 1 its a shame the lockout didn’t last the season which I had already hoped for like others.
"Next year, with a full training camp, I think he can go after that Scott Skiles' record of 30." - Billy King
The magic are mismanaged..
They’ll hold D12 for as long as they can, Nets will lose enough to make picks valuable, Bynum will most likely get injured and we’ll trade a helluva lot for D12. /drops mic and walks away
by Special_Delivery on Dec 14, 2011 8:16 PM EST via iPhone app reply actions
Meant to say 'mismanaged but'
by Special_Delivery on Dec 14, 2011 8:18 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
I see NI point
Honestly if Deron leaves think I will be done having a favorite team.
My lil man.....can't tell me god don't exist.
by killa kadafi191 on Dec 14, 2011 8:17 PM EST via mobile reply actions
I'll be 100% done
Section 18, Row 7 at The Rock!
"Your 2010-2011 New Jersey Nets - It Is What It Is"
I'll still be a fan
was here through the best, good, bad, real bad, bad and now.
Dwight or Bust
Nets lose 33+ games this season.
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well get some stud 1st rounder and Bam!
Right back at it.
by nwkiddnj on Dec 14, 2011 8:22 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
where did he say that...and that iis just messed up
i was watching games during the 12 win season
If Deron leaves?
I am not coming back for a looong time.
I think it's fine.
by NetsMets4Life on Dec 14, 2011 8:31 PM EST up reply actions
Bondy
NYDNInterNets Stefan Bondy
Did hear one thing today – that Otis Smith is just passing info to ownership and has no power to make the call on Howard deal.
YES IT WILL...
IF YOU REALLY DON’T THINK SO ITS BECAUSE YOU’RE BLINDED AND THINKING WITH YOUR HEART NOT YOUR BRAIN…
I think your thinking with your heart..
whose overcome by emotions right now? pointless emotions too..
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Shortly after midnight.
"Success is peace of mind which is a direct result of self-satisfaction in knowing you did your best to become the best that you are capable of becoming." - John R. Wooden
by D Will to Succeed on Dec 14, 2011 8:21 PM EST up reply actions
When is the deadline on Friday to Amnesty Outlaw?
I may tune in again at that time, since I doubt ESPN will announce it.
Outlaw isn't getting amnestied
We don’t have a full roster. They said they would only waive him if they needed to. They definitely can’t now.
Who said that? The writers?
Nets can sign Shawnee Williams at any team if they give him a small multi-year contract.
Isn’t Shawnee better than Outlaw?
this is the trade to make- Kobe to Philly
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=7yzgrnk
Granted Kobe in Philadelphia..
then lakers trade for Howard
pg-
sg- Iggy, Evan Turner
sf- metta
pf-
c- Howard
press reset and see what happens.. makes them bad but different
Anyone placing odds on who will be the Nets first signing?
Hump? 60% by Friday I predict.
My prediction is 5 years starting at 5.5 million.
Has Hump been talking with any other team?
Clearly Hump is anxious to be playing ball again and forget about Kim.
of course we damn are! lol
AK can play TWO positions, which could save us as much cap as possible
Nets are engaged in serious talks with free agent forward Andrei Kirilenko, league source told SI – Mannix
Awful News
We’re going to overpay dearly, and he won’t last through the compressed schedule.
Yeah!
thats awsome, but he’s one of the scariest lookin dude’s in the NBA….lol
10:30 a.m. on february 23, 2011 woke up with no hope.
12:30 p.m. on february 23, 2011 hope was born
D-WILL ALL THE WAY!!!!!!!!!!!!
so uh
rodney stuckey
aaron afflalo, nick young
josh howard, kirilenko
Carl Landry, Hump, Reggie Evans
Joel Pryzbilla
still some dudes out there to sign to salvage any type of competent roster:
D-will/Farmar/Gaines
Morrow/Brooks
James/Outlaw
Shelden/Pothead
Lopez/Petro
is a train wreck in the making. might as well go sign some guys and win now and them send them off for Dwight in a sign and trade
The realist keepin it real amongst the surrealists
I was in Baghdad before these little B.G.'s was in they daddy-bags.
by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Dec 14, 2011 8:21 PM EST reply actions
Nets should swoop in and make bigger offer to Jamal Crawford
he is only looking for a one year deal because he wants to test free agency, he would make decent trade bait too
Don't disagree
He’s a proven commodity. Morrow & Brooks are not nearly as reliable.
net income
Do not be like billy king..give us.something whether its good or bad
by netsfan247 on Dec 14, 2011 8:22 PM EST via mobile reply actions
I WROTE SUCH A LONG FANPOST
can someone atleast read it? Comment? Vote? Please?
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Kobe's anger
makes sense he’s annoyed. giving up odom for nada. the possibility that the team may give up both Pau and Bynum for Dwight makes the team weaker. Would probably take another year to find the right pieces to become championship contenders. His legs are getting any younger.
Kobe is pissed for one reason though…Lakers are trying to rebuild on the fly at his expense.
Dwight Howard is NOT going to the Lakers and here is why....
- Lets start out by saying the Lakers are NOT going to offer Pau AND Bynum especially with Kobe around and is already not happy with the “Odom” trade. He likes Pau and Bynum.
- Kobe does NOT like star players who could be bigger then him aka Shaq…Kobe would be VERY unhappy and you could have the same stuff that went on with him and Shaq (another reason why they would rather have CP3 then Dwight)
- Would the Lakers really give up all three (Odom,Gasol,Bynum) of their big-men for just one even though it’s Howard
- I believe Dwight doesn’t want to really go to the Lakers (also put in Chicago/Dallas) for multiple reasons
1) He wants his own team and own legacy, it still would be "kobe’s"team and their legacy is a mile long already
2) I really believe he wants to play with a top pg like Deron or CP3 (this is why LAL and Dal were on his list, just in case LA got CP3 or at the end of the year if Deron goes to Dallas) - Last and most important is….Dwight wants Brooklyn…He has the big market, a new team moving to a new stadium with no former superstar (Orlando had Shaq before him and Deron already said it himself that he’s just "one of the guys), gets to play with an allstar PG in Deron, would be the face of a franchise and all-time legend if he wins here (just look at Messier with the Rangers), with Proky he would probably be an even bigger star overseas then he is now and would have great input on all team decisions.
It’s really all up to Dwight…The Nets did their part, Deron, BK and Proky are all doing their part but now it’s time for Dwight to say NETS or NOBODY!!!! Be a Melo Dwight and demand Nets because I know you want to be here!!!
the problem is its not all up to Dwight
ownership has the last call which deal they accept
by sheepareevil on Dec 14, 2011 8:25 PM EST up reply actions
it is up to Dwight...all he has to do is say, like Melo did, I will ONLY sign an extension with Nets...it would eliminate all other teams...then it comes down to taking our offer or losing him for NOTHING in the offseason
This is why it’s so important to keep that cap space going into next yeart (1yr deals ONLY). Then he WOULD have all the leverage like Lebron had when he left Cleveland, like Bosh had when he left Toronto and same goes for Wade.
I think another wester conference team
Will help Billy out and sweeten the D-12 deal honestly. If Billy can get a good pice with Dwight picks and taking on contracts will be a hell of a trade.
"We're not there yet, but we're going somewhere," Johnson said. "And we're going to Brooklyn. We're not going to contract. We're going to Brooklyn."
Well I will say this
I still believe Marshon will be a allstar Eric Gordan type but better defender.
"We're not there yet, but we're going somewhere," Johnson said. "And we're going to Brooklyn. We're not going to contract. We're going to Brooklyn."
OK-4 way trade- ORL;HOU-PHL-LAL
TO Lakers: Iggy, DH, Scola, Lou Williams, Evan Turner
to ORL- Bynum, Kevin Martin, #1 pick from someone
to PHL- Kobe, Courtney Lee
to Hou- Pau
...
"I love my Ducks (wait 'til you see my O)"
by bkeagle718 on Dec 14, 2011 8:26 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I'm confused
Is this a trade that went down on your NBA2k association?
by nwkiddnj on Dec 14, 2011 8:26 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
SHELDON WILLIAMS
LOLOL..biggest free agent period/offfseason in nets history….SHELDON WILLIAMS
by netsfan247 on Dec 14, 2011 8:25 PM EST via mobile reply actions
The reason Outlaw will be Amnestied is that::
1. Outlaw is still recovering from surgery and couldn’t play anyway.
2. Nets will always need the cap space for free agency and future trades up to the deadline.
3. Any of a number of players would be better than Outlaw, including RJ who the Nets could bid for.
I think the opposite.
BK will want to pay less this year (save for a trade later on) but offer more years than others.
I trust in Billy King and Deron, who I'm sure has been deeply involved in this whole process.
I’ll start panicking when we hear reports of Deron being pissed. I ain’t stressed yet.
Nets fans need anti-depressants
They’re in CVS, Rite-Aid, and Walgreens right now
I still believe we can do IT !
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Lakers with only Dwight and Kobe
won’t get past this years Dallas team even without Chandler. They will get beat by OKC also.
I don't think they trade both Pau and Bynum..they will try a three team trade with Bynum as anchor
If we are trading for Dwight at the deadline, lets all hope Brook comes out strong and plays out of his mind…and not that i wish pain on anyone, but if bynum sits out a few games for a sore knee or back won’t hurt either…
Billy gets a player better than wallace
I think the deal gets done, the picks and taking on contracts IMO trump Bynum and Pau. Magic just need a flashier toy and judging by Pau age doesn’t have to be in there mid 20’s.
"We're not there yet, but we're going somewhere," Johnson said. "And we're going to Brooklyn. We're not going to contract. We're going to Brooklyn."
The only way for ORL to trade Howard in the next few days is if DH12 throws a temper tantrum and ORL fears the team will play awful this season.
Otherwise ORL waits until March.
Or D12 walks into Alex Martin's office
picks him up off the floor with one hand and demands, “TRADE”, waits a second, “ME”
Are bids going out yet on Richard Jefferson.
If Nets Amnesty Outlaw, then no team in the NBA can make a better offer for RJ. (LOL)
That is because every team in the NBA with cap space has already improved their team except the Nets.
I don't think the Nets would do that.
Nets could get AK47 for less money than Outlaw is owed, easily.
Could still get enough to give Dwight a max contract if we sign AK for 10 mill a year, who Dwight is friends with
Farmar 5 million expires
amnesty Outlaw 7
Shelden Expires 1
Gaines expires 1
Graham expires 1
15 million in cap
just a thought but
I think Lakers are in win-now mode seeing as how Kobe is getting older each year. Trading away both Gasol and Bynum would be great for the future, but it would suggest that they are taking a step back, at least for this year. I think for the Lakers, each year has to be important.
I think that’s why Kobe was unhappy with the Odom trade. The chemistry has been there for the Lakers team for the past few years and I don’t think he wants to lose all of the big men the Lakers had on a championship contender team for one big man. Although the Lakers management traded away Odom without consulting Kobe, I think he has given management a hint that he wants to keep Pau and Bynum. If this is the case, then I don’t think they are pursuing Dwight as much as we are all believing they are.
Knicks are going to pursue Baron Davis...
Don’t they already have Mike Bibby. Are they the city of washed up point guards?
We're in no position to make fun of the Knicks
Our team currently consists of Outlaw, Graham, Petro a dehydrated rookie and a bunch of D-Leaguers.
by nynjlawyer on Dec 14, 2011 8:41 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
stephen a can't say anything to stop me from liking him
skip: when bynum is right, i’ll take him over dwight howard.
stephen: AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA (for about 30 seconds)
This sums it all up...
“Ohhhh look we might get D12!! Wait a sec…ahhhhh man”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MyZwDcLGknU&feature=youtube_gdata_player
by Special_Delivery on Dec 14, 2011 8:41 PM EST via iPhone app reply actions
Im still excited to see the midnight news tonight lol
sicking. i kno
I don't care anymore, if we get him great if not great. I'm still going to be a all out Nets fan.
Dre Day all day
by Dre Day41 on Dec 14, 2011 8:49 PM EST via mobile reply actions
another conspiracy one can say
That stern wouldn’t shaft the lakers by nixing a trade for CP3 and sending him to the clips. They would make ammends.
BTW JVG ripped lopez and the trade on general on PTI
by HabPSU on Dec 14, 2011 8:49 PM EST via mobile reply actions
did you guys see this
Howard told teammates on Tuesday that he thought the trade to the Nets was a "done deal," a league source told Y! Sports. Twenty-four hours later on Wednesday, Howard told them he was under the impression that "ownership killed it," the source said.
article?
#FreeDwight!
D-Will+D12=Brooklyn 2K12
by "NetsNation" on Dec 14, 2011 9:03 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
damn
WojYahooNBA: Y! Source: Dwight Howard told some Magic teammates on Tuesday that he thought trade to the Nets was a “done deal.” http://t.co/xChAFb5x
"We're not there yet, but we're going somewhere," Johnson said. "And we're going to Brooklyn. We're not going to contract. We're going to Brooklyn."
Fell asleep while studying for finals...had a dream about a press conference that kinda went like...
DWIGHT COME UP HERE, WE’RE GONNA INTRODUCE YOU NOW!
ME?!
YOU’RE KIDDING!
NAH MAN, COME UP…HERE’S YOUR JERSEY!
AW HELL YEAH!
CHEEEEESE…
AWWW…BLAKE! I LOVE HAPPY ENDINGS!
THEN I WOKE UP…
by dennis7 on Dec 14, 2011 8:59 PM EST reply actions 9 recs
Fail Blockquote
WojYahooNBA Adrian Wojnarowski
Y! Source: Dwight Howard told some Magic teammates on Tuesday that he thought trade to the Nets was a “done deal.” tinyurl.com/7yd7uyl
This makes complete sense...
I’m sure his agent thought the same which is why Nene is off the market now.
Bashing OTIS, but I think it's not his call
I think Otis had this a done deal, but freaking ORL ownership nixed it.
We shall see once they realize how stupid are they about to get. If there is another Shaq 2.0, they will be virtually slaughtered in that City.
Case in point
NYDNInterNets Stefan Bondy
@WojYahooNBA latest story says Dwight believes ownership killed deal, which is in line with what I heard about Otis Smith’s suppressed role
I'D rather get Dwight as a FA
But I’ll settle for trade
by mb4th on Dec 14, 2011 9:04 PM EST via mobile reply actions
i don't think D-Will + Howard + Morrow + Lower Level Exception + Mid-Level Exception
wins any titles against the likes of Miami or even the Knicks.
We are leaving ourselves no real way to add on.
Wish we would have signed Nene and a 2 and/or 3 when the getting was good.
JJ for 3!
the Magic put set shooters around him.
out in the first round last year.
I think we’d be good, but second round, maybe E.C. finals bound every year.
JJ for 3!
yep...
that’s why instead of a first or second round team, they’d be a second or third round team
in another era, D-Will and Dwight may have been enough… but with the concentration of talent on a few other teams, i doubt they will be enough now.
JJ for 3!
I'm with you, but its better to not go against the grain on this board
Dwight or Bust
Nets lose 33+ games this season.
Follow @Meer2Fly16
you should see me in the Jay-Z boards.
JJ for 3!
You real Wade, Bron, Bosh didn’t win any titles against the likes of the Mavs. But now in year 2 of the experiment, they added Battier. If you build it, they will come.
The Heat had 3 All Stars (2 of whom I contend are better than Dwight and D-Will)
AND somehow convinced Haslem to leave a pile of money on the table to come back.
AND didn’t have terrible contracts like Chris Duhon and Hedo Turkoglu taking up their extra cash.
The Heat were a better and deeper team than I think we would be, and had much more flexibility.
JJ for 3!
If making the Finals was failing
this team should have been contracted along time ago. Rome was never built in a day, and its a team game, 5-5 if I’m not mistaken.
Dwight or Bust
Nets lose 33+ games this season.
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