Landry: Nets Have Called Me
by Net Income on Dec 13, 2011 10:07 AM EST
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PrintCarl Landry, the 28-year-old power forward who averaged 12 and 5 last season for the Hornets, said Monday the Nets and Trail Blazers have pursued him. He's also open to returning to New Orleans where he would replace David West, now with the Pacers.
The older brother of Marcus Landry, Carl played well for the Hornets after being traded at the deadline, upping his numbers to 15.8 and 5.0 in the playoffs. He earned $3 million last year and presumably would want more.
- Forward Carl Landry 'still open' to a return to the New Orleans Hornets - John Reid - New Orleans Times-Picayune
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Hea decent
But we wont do anything
Need some D-12
by Mike Viola on Dec 13, 2011 7:49 AM EST via mobile reply actions
I believe this is what we would call
‘Plan D’
I wouldn't be opposed
As long as the price is right. I’d prefer to match him with Dwight over Brook though.
i disagree
he would fit in better with dwight who likes to operate away from the rim. landry;s biggest strength is scoring right under the basket, would clash awfully with Dwight (if he’s here)
i posted this in the marshon thread...
but he’s asking for 3 years $22m ish and he’s been on the decline and can’t rebound…
hollinger espn analysis:
+ Undersized power forward with knack for scoring in paint and drawing fouls.
+ Moves decently and tough, but overmatched against long post players.
+ 15-foot range, but shoots too many jumpers. Poor rebounder. Knees a concern.
Statistically, Landry had his worst pro season, as his normally high-efficiency shot-making fell toward the league average. Landry had posted true shooting percentages above 60 in each of his first three seasons, but last season his 55.5 mark was in the middle of the pack at power forward.
He still ranked ninth in free throw attempts per field goal attempt, but his game drifted away from the basket. Landry remains exquisite around the rim, converting a sizzling 75.7 percent of his shots in the basket area, but nearly half his shots were from 10 feet or farther and he made only 36.3 percent. If he keeps drifting to the perimeter he’s going to drift to the bench, too.
Of equal concern, however, was the continued decline in Landry’s rebound rate. Landry’s mark dropped to a pathetic 10.0, with his work on the defensive glass being particularly sad — only two power forwards had a worse defensive rebound rate than Landry’s 11.1. His poor board work, combined with a lack of shot-blocking and generally insufficient length, make him a liability at the defensive end.
My reply... in the MarShon thread
I love Landry and really don’t much care for Hollinger, but Johnnyboy is spot on. Great inside scorer, worse than awful inside defender.
Depends who else we’re targeting, though. If we bring in Reggie Evans, that would go a hell of a long way to making up for what Landry lacks on D – but then that would be filling two roster spots, rather than one.
I have a feeling Landry is our plan C or D, and as much as I like his (offensive) game, that depresses me
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This whole free agency period reminds me of...
The scene with paul rudd surfing lesson from “forgetting sarah marshall”
Do less, nope!
Do less, nope thats not it!
Dont do anything! Nothing!
Ok you gotta do more than that. Ur just lying there.
Lets just go surf!
Need some D-12
by Mike Viola on Dec 13, 2011 7:52 AM EST via mobile reply actions 7 recs
Oddly enough
I know exactly what you mean.
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by Rusty_b on Dec 13, 2011 7:59 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
yes perfect example lmao
FRANKS AND BEANS FRANKS AND BEANS
by lemmetakeutodamovies on Dec 13, 2011 12:20 PM EST up reply actions
We need rebounding bad...
It’s too much to spend on a guy that won’t have a starting role and that isn’t much of a rebounder.
by JohnFromLongIsland on Dec 13, 2011 7:54 AM EST via mobile reply actions
Landry isn't a starting PF, that was made clear in Sactown
He’s a guy that will be great for you off the bench, but if you ask him to start, he’ll perform poorly. Plus, he’’s Brook level bad in terms of rebounding
Worse.
Brook CAN average 8-9 boards per game (see his first two years in the league). It seems Carl can not.
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That's why I said I'd rather have time with Dwight
I’d rather have 2 go to scoring options down low as long as one of them can pick up the boards. Brook can be a decent rebounder, but I’d rather he not have to be the number one guy down low.
by Frigidevil on Dec 13, 2011 11:46 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Do you guys really think D12 is moonwalking?
I don’t. I just think this is PR damage control.
Magic saw where this was going, and the VP dude, Alex whatever, seemed like a smart dude. So he is taking over by saying let’s play like BK is playing, stealth mode.
Not saying anything will happen, but they will play this game like it’s all flowers out there.
If Star_Ledger dude got some sources, that’s a surprise to me. This deadline-thing if it came from BK, there is madness behind it ….theories!!!
Didn't we sign Shelden Williams?
for the role of backup PF?
Unless we either have a starting setup of…
Nene and Brook
or
Landry and Howard
"Losing is the same as winning, only with fewer points." - Keith Van Horn (90s Nike commercial)
He can play backup C
And will probably push Petro more than anything else.
As NI stated, his deal may be partially guaranteed like Sean May, so he many not make the final roster.
by ZR on Dec 13, 2011 9:12 AM EST up reply actions
not official
king is keeping all cap open for hedo/dwight
by Henry Sanchez on Dec 13, 2011 9:49 AM EST up reply actions
And that whole process led to DWill
So it worked out OK in the end. Let’s see if it happens again.
by ZR on Dec 13, 2011 9:13 AM EST up reply actions
I would not be surprised...
1) We get Dwight before Friday
2) We sign Nene
3) We let Nene go to Houston and we retain cap space
We simply have no idea what is going on, which is kudos to BK.
by rundmc00 on Dec 13, 2011 8:00 AM EST via mobile reply actions
Sign Nene & AK
I’m tired of waiting. But I’d rather not spend a penny than waste our cap space in guys like Landry. This has to be a joke.
We will have Howard.
I don't speak English
by RussianNets on Dec 13, 2011 8:09 AM EST up reply actions 3 recs
That sounds like a threat.
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by Rusty_b on Dec 13, 2011 8:09 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Not quite, dude.
Let’s not get carried away.
I would like that starting five, but the Bulls were an Eastern Conference Finals team last season and a 1 seed.
I do see your point if you’re strictly referring to starting fives (though I don’t quite agree), but unfortunately five good players does not a team make.
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Fair point
But I did think they’d be a top four seed at least.
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AK47 is asking for at least $8M a year
he started at 4yr $40M but came down a little. We hear he’s looking towards Sacto.
Dwight dream is over....
BK tried and it wasn’t his fault… Expect a Troy Murphy type signing … In preparation for next year free agency… Missed the boat again, hey we are the Nets!
by kupalski on Dec 13, 2011 8:09 AM EST via mobile reply actions
Dwight's The Goal but...
All these guys from Brook to Nene will be better with D-Will. That’s what happens in Chicago with the bulls. So Brook-Nene-Morrow-AK47 would be pretty damn good.
by KiddLetGoOfTheRope on Dec 13, 2011 8:10 AM EST reply actions
don't think we'll get AK.
he’s leaning towards Sacramento if he comes back here apparently
Is it just me?
Or does anyone else think he’d be just as happy playing overseas? I could be way off the mark, given that he does still think he’s work $7m-$8m per season, but it’s just the impression I get.
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I'm convinced he'll be back as soon as he gets a decent offer
him giving away the money he earns while playing there to charity means he wasn’t planning to stay there that long IMO. Throw a 7M per contract at him and I’m sure he’s back. ANd he’s worth that money.
he won't sign here for 7M a season.
he lowered his 4yr and $40M to 3yrs and $26.5M but that’s it. And we’re not exactly contenders right now even with the signing of Nene, so he won’t give us that ‘sign with a contender’ discount.
No one seems to be willing to give him that money
and he’s earning NOTHING in Russia.
So yes, as soon as somebody offers him 7M per (a reasonable figure), he’ll be back.
yup no AK, no one ever gives discounts
proky connection, not even going to help.
by kupalski on Dec 13, 2011 8:17 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
yup no AK, no one ever gives discounts
proky connection, not even going to help.
by kupalski on Dec 13, 2011 8:18 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Could Be...
My point is, just the way Kidd made Kittles and KMart special players – DWill will do the same so all these free agent possibilities and our own guys .. We’re going to be pretty good this year especially if we get Nene. Of course we could be great with Dwight but if that doesn’t happen we’ll still be good and probably a deeper team.
by KiddLetGoOfTheRope on Dec 13, 2011 8:20 AM EST up reply actions
There's not even any comparison whatsoever to our potential team and the Bulls if you can't play defense like they can
As we saw last year, playing good team defense is easier said than done. Avery can’t just snap his fingers and make us a good defensive team
There will never be a time that the Nets say no to a DH deal
But there will come a time that the deal as presently constructed, with the Nets taking back Hedo, will probably expire
They will never say no
But they can’t stay waiting for long with Nene also waiting for this drama to unfold. That’s the problem this time. It’s not like the Melo situation where Nets could pick up the phone anytime. Once Nene is signed, the option for trading for Dwight is pretty much gone.
He is wrong
"It's as sweet as it ever was, I'll tell you. Now, hopefully, we started something and we can win some more championships, but we're going to enjoy this one right now. Have a little champagne." --Julius Erving, May 12, 1976, ABA champion Nets locker room.
So let me get this straight : an ENTIRE ARTICLE/BLOG is dedicated to the news that there is a deadline
NOW some guy whom none of us have ever heard of…says that “according to a source”(which could be his mom or something), there is no deadline???
GET OUT OF HERE WITH THAT JUNK!
Nene is wasted money
For everyone who says he didnt put up points because OF Iverson, Carmelo, etc…
Look at his 2010-2011 splits
In 24 games after the All Star break (pretty much after Melo was dealt)..
Nene averaged 13.5 points and 8.6 boards a game.
That is a max player??
Forget Nene..
he defers a lot to his teammates
but he’s a high effeciency player who will obviously be asked to do more here. I think he still has room to get better.
soemone who always defers does so for a reason
Look at the top 10 PF/Cs.. do any of them defer? No, the big men want to be fed.
Nene is skilled, but what sets him apart is his patience. He knows when to shoot and when to move the ball, a discipline that many have confused with complacency. Admittedly,that sometimes works to his disadvantage; Nene’s pursuit of an optimal possession can prevent him from powering his way into a good shot or attacking his opponent as often as he should, but it’s hard to those points with a guy merely making the right play.
http://offthedribble.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/12/08/why-nene-should-be-in-demand/
For the majority of the 2010-11 season, Denver’s offense was monopolized by Carmelo Anthony. But when Nene finally did get the ball, he was still eager to give it up any teammate in superior scoring position. Nene’s entire game is understated, but his willingness and ability to pass are particularly so; he’s a tremendous set-up man out of the high post, and one of the few bigs in the league with proven play-making chops.
I’m not gonna knock him for making good basketball plays
Both quotes are very true
Blocking out is another stat not recorded, though it also results in fewer rebounds.
only way they will get him is max
"It's as sweet as it ever was, I'll tell you. Now, hopefully, we started something and we can win some more championships, but we're going to enjoy this one right now. Have a little champagne." --Julius Erving, May 12, 1976, ABA champion Nets locker room.
why is it so hard for people to understand this?
and how is he overpaid when chandler and other bigs are getting the same $$, market value
by Henry Sanchez on Dec 13, 2011 9:57 AM EST up reply actions
If i was unbiased and looked at the reality as it is..
our opening day starting lineup is:
deron
morrow
d. james
lopez
nene
I think if RJ gets amnestied he could become a Net
by ZR on Dec 13, 2011 9:16 AM EST up reply actions
I never said he was a significant upgrade
The Nets will have to maintain some sort of flexibility if they want to make a play for Dwight Howard at the deadline. Can’t overspend on a wing if that’s the thought process.
by ZR on Dec 13, 2011 9:48 AM EST up reply actions
I wouldn't call RJ trash
He’s a career 15/5 guy would can defend and run the floor.. Of course, this s coming from someone who has a pic of TWill for their profile and said they’s have no prob. spending $8mil on AK
by Mike Gminski on Dec 13, 2011 9:53 AM EST up reply actions
You are right. I wouldn't call him trash. Just trash, I mean. RJ is utter trash
I wouldn’t want him on the Nets even for the vets minimum.
Don't understand the hate for RJ
He’s stats are remarkably similar to AK’s (who you’re ‘ok’ w/ paying 8M), while playing for a much better team (SA won over 60 games last year, Utah wasn’t even .500). Sure he’s overpaid, which is why he’s getting amenstied. But noone would suggest he’s not worth the vet miniumum (that’s crazy).
by Mike Gminski on Dec 13, 2011 10:08 AM EST up reply actions
who cares about that? that is a guy like you or me opinion whoever wrote that isn't even a writer
what does that have to do with what he could do for us now anyway?
RJ is utter trash
I think Lopez will primarily play the 5
and Nene will play the 4 if he is signed, Then again it will probably be interchangeable depending on our matchup.
by bettacalltyrone on Dec 13, 2011 3:00 PM EST up reply actions
Nene
I don’t really know his game and I suspect most of the posters here aren’t familiar with him but Hollinger (who I hate but respect) says he’s a max player. He really likes Nene.
by KiddLetGoOfTheRope on Dec 13, 2011 8:23 AM EST reply actions
Hollinger is huge on efficiency stats
It’s his thing.
Whether Nene’s hold up with a bigger role/added responsibility, well that remains to be seen. I am also a big fan of his though and wouldn’t mind shelling out good money to secure him.
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by Rusty_b on Dec 13, 2011 8:25 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
agreed.
i think he would be great here. i still think our biggest need if he’s our marquee signing is athleticism/defense on the wings and rebounding down low.
would love afflalo and a cheap reggie evans or hump.
I'm all for Reggie Evans
If we’re priced out of bringing Hump back, I’d love to see Reggie in a Nets uniform. Like Hump, the dude is all hustle.
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Agreed!
Reggie Evans is a Rebounding Beast who will come cheap.
J-Kidd to D-Will
I love guys who can put up lines like
0 pts
15 rebs
on a consistent basis…
Those are the kinds of numbers I used to put up in like 8th grade lol
Shows what happens when clowns like Avery and Yomarket keep their mouths shut...
I like Avery as a coach but not GM!
I predict that we keep cap space for Dwight...
Huge 1-year offer for Hump and the SF of your choice.
I think the decision to go all in for Dwight was made long ago and Nene is just a smoke screen.
You think we were ever really going to sign Butler?
Howard wants the Nets and all we need is cap space at the end of the year.
And I actually like Nene a lot...
But when a once in a generation center has you as his first choice…you go all in.
Yes, all in
To try and get them both.
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Numbers don't work...
Unless Nene signs with us for a lot less than reported.
Admittedly
That’s where Fegan would need to work his magic (pardon the pun).
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Bondy
Bq. Nets believe they can end up with Howard and Nene
by CStanley028 on Dec 13, 2011 8:27 AM EST via mobile reply actions
Deadline deal
That’s why we can’t blow all our cap space just yet, just sign Nene and leave some room to do a Brook+other stuff for Dwight trade.
It all hangs on Brook. He plays like an allstar, and this shouldn’t be a tough pill to swallow for ORL
Nene's presence will probably take alot of pressure of Brook
Thus making him look ALOT better than he already is…
10:30 a.m. on february 23, 2011 woke up with no hope.
12:30 p.m. on february 23, 2011 hope was born
D-WILL ALL THE WAY!!!!!!!!!!!!
If Brook plays like an All Star
Do you think Management will be hesitant to pull the trigger for Dwight. Brook’s ceiling may be lower than Dwights but if he proves to be an All Star Calibur then shouldnt we jus focus on upgrading the SF, this is assuming that we sign nene to play the 4/5
by bettacalltyrone on Dec 13, 2011 3:05 PM EST up reply actions
I think they can too
It’s possible if BK/Marks are cap savvy.
by ZR on Dec 13, 2011 9:17 AM EST up reply actions
dump Farmar so we have more room to re-sign Kris in addition to the Nene and AK signings
sign Arenas for the vets min or the mini MLE if Deron wants him
Sacramento has the cap space to do it
and word is he is interested there.
I like that lineup
But I don’t think we’ll be able to afford both AK and Hump without completely maxing ourselves out (reaching the point of luxury tax).
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I like it.
Hopefully Jwill can step up, so we don’t have to see much of Shelden.
This is going to be such a sloppy sloppy season
The season starts in 12 days! The Nets haven’t signed half their starting lineup. The Hornets barely have a team to field. Going to be an ugly season, at least for the first half. Yikes.
Well at least we'll be pretty young, so we'll hold up better
The Nets will suffer from depth issues though, players are gonna get real tired and they need competent bench players to play bigger roles
Which is where Landry would fit nicely.
I just don’t want him to be our best FA big man signing.
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Landry is a stretch 4
You dont contact him to play with Lopez. You contact Landry to play next to Howard ala Brandon Bass.
We are getting Dwight
by DWILL-of-the-GODZ on Dec 13, 2011 8:40 AM EST reply actions
Couldn't disagree more at this point
But I hope you’re right!
Landry is not a back to the basket Banger
Landry doesnt fit next to Lopez, he is more of a fit next to Howard
Nene is more of a fit next to Lopez
by DWILL-of-the-GODZ on Dec 13, 2011 9:57 AM EST up reply actions
If we have enough adjustments, you think we can pull a Memphis!?!?
I think when you have a floor general like we do, a nice playoff run is not out of reach.
If for some reason D12 does not work ( I still think it will), we can put a 1year team together and let it play out.
Thoughts!!!
with the D12 dream is still hovering around us.
It is going to limit our signing with our other players. Webcan be a good team. But if we sign a mediocre player with dwight in mind is really going to screw us.. we have to give up all together and move on…
by kupalski on Dec 13, 2011 8:42 AM EST via mobile reply actions
It seems pretty clear that we won’t be signing anyone until this Dwight matter is settled
by BennyandtheNets on Dec 13, 2011 8:43 AM EST reply actions
I think Magic are trying to sell Dwight on fact he can not opt out and
pick his team in 2013-2014 when they will be 25 million under the cap (not counting his new deal)
If the Clippers get Paul and he agrees not to opt out this year.. then Paul is a free agent in 2013-14.
This is the only possibility I can think of
It seems clearer to me that
we are now worried that there is no dwight deal AND that nene is going to be headed back to denver to take that 5th year guaranteed!!!!!
Section15 Row 12 Seats 1&2
by Angelo Mihalitsianos on Dec 13, 2011 8:50 AM EST reply actions
well. we have plan C or D
and remember plan D netted us Outlaw last year, so it is sure to be a winner
I fear that any day past today is waiting too long.
What is Billy King thinking??
Again, I keep going back to this
The Nets have had permission to speak with Fegan, Dwight’s agent. They are very looped into what Dwight is thinking and wants.
I can only assume that we are taking no action because, at the moment, we are in a holding pattern.
But after yesterday’s ridiculousness at Magic Media Day, I just don’t see how Dwight is actually committed to leaving. Unless it was all a PR move to help sell tickets and not make him look like the bad guy. Maybe he asked for a guy he knew would never hit the UFA market?
I just want a TEAM.
Section 18, Row 7 at The Rock!
"Your 2010-2011 New Jersey Nets - It Is What It Is"
Dwight sux
Those quotes yesterday made him look like a giant oversized baby. What a cancer.
Err yea
The Magic should get rid of him right away
Section 18, Row 7 at The Rock!
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If I were them I'd just trade him to whatever team he wants to go to.
But come on I mean his wishy washy attitude now is a little ridiculous. He’s so unhappy for over a year now and all of a sudden Glen Davis and Chauncey Billups are going to change his mind? It’s just a frustrating situation. Like the Melodrama, I as a fan just want closure on it, one way or another.
Unless we see a Woj tweet today or tomorrow
That says “Despite public posturing, Dwight Howard remains adamant that team trade him before opening night, to Nets or Lakers.” – we really need to get this team in place.
If, as Bondy and NI have indicated, they think they can get both Dwight and Nene – why not just sign Nene now?
I assume it’s because it’s a multi-team trade with lots of pieces moving around all over the place to clear space… something they wouldn’t do otherwise.
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yeah
time to sign Nene now, and move forward.
If Dwight wants to come here, it can happen. But the whole idea of taking on Turk’s salary is out the window.
by MrDollarBills on Dec 13, 2011 8:55 AM EST up reply actions
This is SO much like last year
It really is annoying. We are sitting around waiting, while we the fans are yelling at Billy to pull the plug on Uriji and his constant goalpost moving.
I will say though, it’s probably more the lack of information coming out that has us most frustrated.
If we were getting daily updates about what the Nets were doing, we’d probably be a lot less anxious.
Also – Deron seems happy. So that says something.
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it does
I am fairly confident that King won’t get left looking slack jawed @ the end of this process. Its the lack of information that frustrates up.
CLEARLY there is something more to the this because the silence is too great and anyone with a brain knows that starting the season out with that roster they practiced yesterday with is a no no.
But just based on what we’re seeing(which is probably smoke and mirrors), I say lets just lock Nene up right now.
We cannot go wrong with Brook and Nene. Hell, we might end up surprising everyone with that, making us that more enticing.
by MrDollarBills on Dec 13, 2011 9:05 AM EST up reply actions
I agree totally. I said that yesterday.
This was ok when we got something new form the nets to hang onto every day. Now the silence is defining.
This is clearly the better way for the front office to handle this situation, but it is hard for us fans to accept that.
BK wanted to pull the plug last year
It was Prokhorov who wanted the Nets to keep up the pursuit.
by ZR on Dec 13, 2011 9:18 AM EST up reply actions
In a mid-season trade
Orlando will probably still want to be rid of Hedo’s salary if they’re finally letting go of Howard.
I think the idea now would be that a Brook AND Nene package plus filler would be enough for Dwight. Hopefully those two have a great season early on to trump a trade deadline package of a getting-old Gasol and glass man Bynum.
Or if it’s in the next offseason, we can entice Dwight not just with Deron but one of Nene/Lopez as his frontcourt partner.
So yeah, time to sign Nene now.
if they want to get rid of hedo's salary
the time to do it is now.
we can’t waste time with these mickey mouse mother moisos
by MrDollarBills on Dec 13, 2011 9:09 AM EST up reply actions
In a mid season trade
Orlando lose all leverage because its a race against time to get as good a deal as possible and if the nets have the cap space we can drive a hard bargin.
You could then force the issue for something like Lopez, Farmar and 2 1sts for Dwight because we have the leverage of being able to take him for nothing in free agency. The longer Orlando leave it the less likely they can move Hedo which is a nightmare scenario for the Magic
by N.Ireland Nets Fan on Dec 13, 2011 9:12 AM EST up reply actions
The team with the star teams want has all the leverage at the trade deadline
They can tell the Nets, OK give us Lopez, Nene (presumably), 2 picks and you still take Hedo — or we’re taking the Lakers offer of Gasol and Bynum. What does BK do? Who has the upper hand there? They can do the same with the Lakers.
Orlando’s in control here until the day they actually trade Dwight.
But the Lakers aren't offering Bynum and Gasol
Orlando has to move him at some stage before the trade deadline, the lakers and the nets could drive a hard bargin but more so the nets because we can take him as a free agent where as the lakers can’t. So the deadline effects the lakers more than us.
Your telling me if we sucked and lost alot and something happened and D Will wanted out, the closer to the deadline we wouldn’t panic more and more?
Its the same situation only for the magic and howard.
by N.Ireland Nets Fan on Dec 13, 2011 9:23 AM EST up reply actions
That's the point
The Lakers are not yet offering Bynum and Gasol. As the trade deadline nears, they may well do.
If we were to trade DWill, the offers will get better at the trade deadline. As long as there’s more than one team bidding, as in this case, you’re in command.
Orlando can wait. Enjoy half a season of Dwight’s dunks and then at the trade deadline, pick the best offer.
Stefan Bondy: Nets believe it’s possible they can end up with both Nene and Howard, according to a source.
lol
#FreeDwight!
D-Will+D12=Brooklyn 2K12
by "NetsNation" on Dec 13, 2011 8:56 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Seriously.
Trying to get more people to buy tickets in anticipation of Dwight…
Ric Bucher reported that he's heard that Deron Williams and Dwight Howard have discussed playing together in the future. - Kevin Baumer
slim to none
I think things unravel Friday, which is also deadline for amnesty, and day before 1st pre season game
Ric Bucher reported that he's heard that Deron Williams and Dwight Howard have discussed playing together in the future. - Kevin Baumer
or
Deron
Durant
Kobe
Nene
Dwight
DIVISION RUNNERS-UP!
Don't muddy my celebration.
by Dr. Goodtimes on Dec 13, 2011 9:06 AM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
With that lineup
Mitch Lawrence has a hunch that Deron might be inclined to stay – but maybe for only a year.
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by eLonepb on Dec 13, 2011 9:08 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Heard exact same thing Stephenson wrote
and I suspect from a different source.
It is LOGICAL to assume they have or will set a deadline. They cannot keep everyone hanging and as more and more players get signed.
Of course, they COULD get both Howard and Nene, but that would require the Magic to open talks and there is no reason to believe that has even started.
"It's as sweet as it ever was, I'll tell you. Now, hopefully, we started something and we can win some more championships, but we're going to enjoy this one right now. Have a little champagne." --Julius Erving, May 12, 1976, ABA champion Nets locker room.
that's his problem
If he isn’t willing to make life miserable for Orlando, what can we do? Let him lose his money. We have to build a team, Dwight seems very wishy washy imo but it could be just to save face.
by MrDollarBills on Dec 13, 2011 9:07 AM EST up reply actions
Still need clarification on that
If he decided to decline his Early Termination Option, he has another year on his contract that he would play out at Barclay’s in 2012-2013.
Can he then sign at the end of next season for a 5 year deal?
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Yes
Fegan will run the numbers for him, but he’d have to choose between increased security (4 year deal immediately) or higher pay day with greater risk (1 year deal followed by 5). He could also exercise his ETO & then opt for a 3 year deal that would enable him to sign another max contract before he hits 30.
Any chance 3 team deal could materialize with Orl.Den. and NJ
NJ get Nene on S&T and Dwight
DEN gets Brook, absorbs Turkoglu Contract
ORL gets Faried, Gallinari and one of their young Centers along with cash and draft picks
Not sure Den would do it with Brook only having one year remaining on his contract and im sure alot more players would need to be moved to make it all add up as well
by bettacalltyrone on Dec 13, 2011 3:24 PM EST up reply actions
Ticket sales are up, by the way
just as our numbers are up.
Two people have told me that the pent-up demand is stronger than expected and the rumors about D12 have spiked more interest.
"It's as sweet as it ever was, I'll tell you. Now, hopefully, we started something and we can win some more championships, but we're going to enjoy this one right now. Have a little champagne." --Julius Erving, May 12, 1976, ABA champion Nets locker room.
That's not hard to believe
Particularly the second part.
Popeye Jones - scaring the children of New Jersey since 2010.
'The Crossover' - a Nets and Knicks podcast. http://phobos.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewPodcast?id=268817312
Oh so that explains it
These Dwight rumors were merely to drive ticket sales up! No wonder a source is now saying they can get both.
Come one come all!
Sure, you are going to see Petro in the end, but the taste of John Wa, err I mean Carme- errr sorry I mean Dwi- err…
Ladies and Gentleman, Stephen Graham!!!
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"Your 2010-2011 New Jersey Nets - It Is What It Is"
ticket sales are up
good. But it would be more comforting knowing that the sales are up because of who we brought in, instead of just rumors of who we might bring in
sign Nene today Nets.
by MrDollarBills on Dec 13, 2011 9:08 AM EST up reply actions
well i mean worst case is we have deron
a star – something we did not have begining of last season
Jersey Strong, Brooklyn Ready
by BrettGardnerLF on Dec 13, 2011 9:08 AM EST up reply actions
I’m fine going into the season with Lopez/Nene up front.
The pictures of practice yesterday had me shook.
Stephen Graham and Travis Outlaw have no business on this team right now.
by MrDollarBills on Dec 13, 2011 9:11 AM EST up reply actions
yeah deron must be like "really this is what i have to work with?"
Jersey Strong, Brooklyn Ready
by BrettGardnerLF on Dec 13, 2011 9:12 AM EST up reply actions
that's what I would have been thinking
that looked like a d league practice yesterday
I mean regardless what the hell is with Stephen Graham being on this roster
by MrDollarBills on Dec 13, 2011 9:14 AM EST up reply actions
I'm fine with him on the practice squad
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"Your 2010-2011 New Jersey Nets - It Is What It Is"
I'm sure many NJ fans also share my POV
Take in as many games as possible now, because outside of an occasional weekend game, Brooklyn is impossible to get to.
haha
boy he should kiss his lucky stars that he’s been gifted with the ability to put a ball through a hoop
by MrDollarBills on Dec 13, 2011 9:12 AM EST up reply actions
Who is that character?
Jenn Brown.
Can you introduce me to her?
This is what I don't understand about the D12 thing
It’s been reported that Dwight is considering staying in orlando if the club can make the team better. He stated himself in a interview that he wants to change the culture in Orlando, WTF? Is this all a game d12? Do you really want to be traded? You know Orlando do not have enough assets or money to bring anyone in, so who’s playing who?
Dre Day all day
by Dre Day41 on Dec 13, 2011 9:14 AM EST via mobile reply actions
= he demanded stuff that can not be achieved.
I think it’s just a PR damage control. It’s like saying I want Dirk and Kobe on my team or I’m OutaHere.
They know it, he knows it, BK knows it.
The only thing that can happen is if ORL decides to srew with him beyong 1/1 deadline.
If that is the case they will be royally screwed and will get themselves a Shaq 2.0.
This is what I don't understand about the D12 thing
It’s been reported that Dwight is considering staying in orlando if the club can make the team better. He stated himself in a interview that he wants to change the culture in Orlando, WTF? Is this all a game d12? Do you really want to be traded? You know Orlando do not have enough assets or money to bring anyone in, so who’s playing who?
Dre Day all day
by Dre Day41 on Dec 13, 2011 9:14 AM EST via mobile reply actions
Now that I think about it
The “deadline” for a deal might not be so much intended for the Orlando Magic, but instead, for Dwight Howard.
He’s got this week to force his way out of there. After that, we’re moving on.
Does he want championship + legacy? Time to act Dwight. Otherwise, was a nice thought.
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"Your 2010-2011 New Jersey Nets - It Is What It Is"
Nobody has the full leverage, and ORL is playing with a dangerous uknown (which I think they DO know)
Dwight needs to be traded to get his donuts before 1/1.
If ORL does not comply, they will get a Shaq 2.0 on their hands. Why?
Because this is a short season and if D12 loses his donuts, might as well will choose his own team; he will announce that he aint signing with anyone so the rental will be even worse.
Dwight gets his donuts if he stays with the Magic
That might be what they are trying to do here.
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"Your 2010-2011 New Jersey Nets - It Is What It Is"
If you are not happy and (on top) you are intentionally screwed, would you stay?
I know it’s alot of money, but he had a taste of Russia, and he knows that the best is yet to come if he joins Proky and Brooklyn.
I really think he will make a move, but who knows.
Bottom line, I don’t think ORL will play that card (staying there for that money), cause if he dips they would have to leave the state of FL. They will never recover …
As long as he's not going to start I have no objections to Landry
"I just copped me an all-things, a professional ball team
Tell me I ain't the illest hustler ya'll seen"
Nene + AK + Hump + Crawford
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Why sign Crawford?
He’s complete muck and we need a SF/PF more than someone who just is a high volumne shooter, a chucker if you will
by N.Ireland Nets Fan on Dec 13, 2011 9:20 AM EST up reply actions
Because we need someone who can score the ball
We have Outlaw and Stephen Graham.
I get that people aren’t excited about high volume shooters, but he is a scorer. And can score in huge amounts, taking over games.
WE NEED PLAYERS.
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"Your 2010-2011 New Jersey Nets - It Is What It Is"
much rather give Marshon
any minutes crawford would get.
Marshon is a rookie
The 26th pick in the draft. If he pans out, cool, but we need to win. We can’t put our hopes in a late first round pick.
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Crawford makes no sense
1) He’s not good in the locker room
2) If the bigger play is Howard, the Nets can’t overspend on a one-dimensional player
3) When you have two growing players that need minutes – Morrow and Brooks – give it to them; Morrow was solid last year
If the Nets are going to give out that $$
Give it to Afflalo. He can play on both ends, is younger and much more efficient.
Crawford is one dimensional
Afflalo is not.
Championships are won with defense. AA is a top notch defender and a decent scorer and actually a better 3 pt shooter than Crawford. Crawford is a ball hog, chucking 2 guard who doesnt play a lick of d.
And if we sign Nene you would have 3 decent scorers w/o Crawford. Not enough balls to go around if you add Crawford. AA would be a much better fit due to his all around game.
D Will in 2011...BK in 2012....
obviously missing the point again!
Ever heard of guys having a ROLE? What else could Steve Kerr do? Ben Wallace? Some guys are put in a position to do the one thing they are good at & they excel. That’s why it’s a TEAM game! What good is a team full of Aaron Afflolos or Gerald Wallaces? Even guys that do it all…can’t do it all!
I'm sorry but you have no idea how to assemble an NBA team
If the Nets sign Nene, that gives them three elite scorers who can all create their own shot. What is the one thing then missing in the starting lineup? You guessed it, defense.
You talk about having roles but ballhog (Crawford) typically is not one of them.
If the Nets had Nene and Afflalo, they’d be one of the most efficient scoring teams in the league. With improved defense.
by ZR on Dec 13, 2011 3:37 PM EST up reply actions
When you start out by calling Nene an elite scorer
I can’t take you serious. I’m not even gonna ask who the other 2 are, because not even D-Will is an elite scorer! Kobe, Durant, Melo, etc…..these are elite scorers! You make no sense AT ALL!
And Crawford has the same role as a guy like Jason Terry. His focus is to score. That’s his ROLE off the bench! Yes, it takes getting up shots to score points. You can call it whatever you want.
I dont see how we can afford all of them
We most likely dont have the cap space
D Will in 2011...BK in 2012....
yeah bring in some wings
i like mine mild plz, thanks
by MrDollarBills on Dec 13, 2011 9:22 AM EST up reply actions
Get Nene now and worry about the rest later
We can’t afford to wait any longer….Game is saturday and yet 2 of our biggest position need has yet to be filled(SF&PF). We need to get this going, nene can be traded before the deadline as i understand if there is a need, just don’t lose him to Hou cause i honestly don’t see otis being smart enough to trade dwight anytime soon………
plus after 30 days signed players can be trade right?
it doesnt look like orlando is trading dwight any time soon
Jersey Strong, Brooklyn Ready
by BrettGardnerLF on Dec 13, 2011 9:19 AM EST up reply actions
except the magic.
I am not sure about if he opt-in to next year, how that would work?
If that's the case, why would anyone trade for him after Jan 1st.
Might as well save your pieces and try to sign him in offseason.
by Rodney Buford on Dec 13, 2011 9:28 AM EST up reply actions
Still need clarification
If he declines his ETO and plays another season, can he sign a 5 year deal after that? Maybe.
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Yes
The rule requires him to be on a team 6 months prior to becoming a free agent. If he opts in, he’d have a year plus on his next team.
Dwight needs to stick to the plan
and not backtrack. Yesterday was frustrating because you know it gives the Magic false hope.
I'm losing faith this all is going to work out.
this is a very crucial week for the Nets.
"It's as sweet as it ever was, I'll tell you. Now, hopefully, we started something and we can win some more championships, but we're going to enjoy this one right now. Have a little champagne." --Julius Erving, May 12, 1976, ABA champion Nets locker room.
by Net Income on Dec 13, 2011 9:31 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
They are in an incredibly tough spot
and it would be 100x more difficult if Fegan didn’t rep both players.
When NI is pessimistic, I become pessimistic
by vijay311 on Dec 13, 2011 9:35 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Meh
NI was optimistic about Outlaw and very pessimistic at the trade deadline (as were we all).
Look how that turned out!
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I have almost zero faith at this point.
But I have no problem with Nene. Think he’d be a great addition next to Lopez. Not sure what’s going on with the wings though. No talent there whatsoever.
does that include little faith that even Nene will work out?
"I just copped me an all-things, a professional ball team
Tell me I ain't the illest hustler ya'll seen"
I am definitely done waiting for Dwight
I would be very happy getting Nene and maybe AK-47 if we can talk him down.
Also, I would like to see Hump back, but them signing J. Williams right away to a 2 year makes me think maybe they really see something there. That would be nice.
Brook-Brooks-Brookyln
LET'S DO THIS!
Patience brother ...
I think Nene is in the bag, or Fegan would’ve threatened us in some form (he knows what’s up). Also, as someone mentioned earlier, I think the dude is playing this between Nets and Houston very well.
AK47 jacked up his price so he’s untouchable while he’s chilling in Russia. Once all is set and done. Proky will make an offer he cant refuse.
Its time to sign Nene
Orlando is going to prolong this as long as they can, we need to move forward
Nene is an underrated player, one who is probably not worth the max but one who I think could become an all star playing with Deron. Hes an incredibly efficient player, and would complement either Brook or if we get D12 very well.
D Will in 2011...BK in 2012....
Bondy is losing it
Writing out the “Dwight rules” like Fight club – lol
Rule No. 1 about Dwight Club: You do not talk about Dwight Club.
Rule No. 2 about Dwight Club: You do NOT talk about Dwight Club
2 minutes ago
Rule No. 3 about Dwight Club: If you’re up late at night playing paddle with your friends, you do NOT make that phone call.
1 minute ago
continued
Rule No. 4 about Dwight Club: If you want to bring a third team into the deal, you do NOT call New Orleans
Rule No. 5 about Dwight Club: Nobody has EVER turned down a trade to the Lakers.
You guys say what ever you want about Bondy
The Dwight Club thing is hilarious
by SovietBrooklyn on Dec 13, 2011 10:22 AM EST up reply actions
Incarcerated Bondy?
"It's as sweet as it ever was, I'll tell you. Now, hopefully, we started something and we can win some more championships, but we're going to enjoy this one right now. Have a little champagne." --Julius Erving, May 12, 1976, ABA champion Nets locker room.
by Net Income on Dec 13, 2011 9:48 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Bondy wishes he was incarcerated bob
at least bob is right SOMETIMES.
by NetsKiNG on Dec 13, 2011 9:50 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
honestly if we lose Howard, i am going to be pissed we lost Tyson chandler
Better compliment to Lopez
just think trying to be a Nets writer when nothing has been leaked
compared to all the other teams trades being discussed
It's funny that in my NBA 2k12 association. He's the Nets' power forward :))
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If Otis wants hardball...
we sign our team.
Go get nene, Hump, AK (but NOT for $8M/yr), RJ, and arenas, if he’ll sign.
When Otis realizes that he’s gonna lose Dwight, he takes our best offer which is still Brook, 2 #1’s, and some package of young players on reasonable contracts.
Very likely at that point that Brook is worth more, Bynum is worth less, and LA is still not trading BOTH gasol/bynum for Dwight.
If D12 wants to be here, we can move our onerous contracts next summer and sign him as long as he’s willing to wait. Maybe at that point, Otis does S&T with no other option.
Plan as of now…..MOVE ON. Get the NETS a team….
i expect Farmar to be traded
Arenas is not a terrible backup swing guard.
if its not Dwight, im not gonna be happy lol
netsbasketball
@DannyGlasses Good things come to those who wait! Our front office is working hard to improve our team! #GoNETS
Do you think we'll sign someone today then?
That seems cryptic
That's probably the only interesting thing that whoever controls netsbasketball has ever written on facebook or twitter.
"I just copped me an all-things, a professional ball team
Tell me I ain't the illest hustler ya'll seen"
You mean to tell me you don’t get excited when you see “Poll: What is the most important attribute for a point guard?”
Fire Brian Schottenheimer.
http://www.facebook.com/pages/1000000-Jets-fans-against-Brian-Schottenheimer/104252133024352
by J-Kay on Dec 13, 2011 9:55 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
The Nets are stuck in a bad position
First rule and the only rule: this is ALL about Brooklyn. ALL about Brooklyn. If they have to sacrifice the season in NJ to make things work better in Brooklyn, they will. If this has to drag out months, it will.
The Nets do NOT want to add big contracts that will limit them come July if Howard is still in Orlando (which I doubt). Beyond Nene, if they can get him, I doubt you will see ANY big money signings. They want flexibility come July.
Moreover, who is left from an already weak free agent class? AK-47, at $9 million a year? Shawne Williams at $2.5 million? Carl Landry at $5.5 million a year? Richard Jefferson IF he is amnestied and IF the Nets can submit a winning bid? I will bet that Shelden Williams deal when it is announced, will not be fully guaranteed. He won’t be the only one.
Then, the Nets have to decide what to do with the Outlaw. They can, with minor moves, sign Nene (if still available) and keep Outlaw through next summer.
"It's as sweet as it ever was, I'll tell you. Now, hopefully, we started something and we can win some more championships, but we're going to enjoy this one right now. Have a little champagne." --Julius Erving, May 12, 1976, ABA champion Nets locker room.
by Net Income on Dec 13, 2011 9:56 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
I agree w/ that strategy
they HAVE to keep flexibility to either trade for or sign Dwight.
The 2nd best player in the NBA requested a trade to the NETS. That has never happened.
and now
he is pussyfooting it.
His trade demands mean nothing.
by MrDollarBills on Dec 13, 2011 10:27 AM EST up reply actions
Do you think that the Nets want to be a sub-500 team going into Brookyln though
I feel like its a balancing act—we have to be good enough to keep Deron and not be awful but not blow it.
I still have to think it’d be best to amnesty Outlaw now if we can find a moderately decent stopgap willing to sign a 1 year deal. Easier said than done I suppose, I’m not sure what’s left of the SF market, but I have to think it would be best for our trade flexibility in season to dump Outlaw now. When is the deadline for the amnesty cut, again?
Fire Brian Schottenheimer.
http://www.facebook.com/pages/1000000-Jets-fans-against-Brian-Schottenheimer/104252133024352
Pretty much my worry as well
if we don’t amnesty Outlaw it makes it much harder to trade for Dwight during the season.
"I just copped me an all-things, a professional ball team
Tell me I ain't the illest hustler ya'll seen"
What about Hump?
I thought they still had interest in him.
Agreed that only Nene has to be the big signing
All others on 1-year deals.
We’ll have one of the league’s best frontcourts with one of the best PGs. We’ll just need a 1-year D-and-3 veteran wing to round out the roster and compete in the meantime.
Whatever Billy and Deron decide, I'm good with
I just want to know so I can stop waiting around.
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Which is why I kept saying from day one Trades Trades Trades
Even if it’s not for Howard off the bat. Names like Camby can be more than serviceable on this team especially considering he’s on an expiring deal. I wouldn’t be surprised if the Nets move Farmar to the Lakers (They have Odom’s trade exception) for Ebanks. Dwight was always the endgame IMO and with a shortened condensed season it’s not like it’s far fetched that we can’t still make the playoffs with moves that keep us “flexible” that’s the only reason I been saying Nono to Nene all this time….
Like Billy King been said from day one “No Leaks” so everything else except the obvious is just speculation. Dwight or no Dwight then Nets are still gonna make moves.
by boogeewon on Dec 13, 2011 10:08 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Farmar
I could see a team like the Heat giving their 1st (which will basically be a 2nd rounder) for someone like Farmar, a good young pg who can shoot the 3.
by N.Ireland Nets Fan on Dec 13, 2011 10:13 AM EST up reply actions
Nene & Posey
Amnesty Outlaw. If AK wants $9mil, it’s for 1 year. Personally, I want nothing to do with AK or anybody else with past back issues in a compressed season.
oh?
So now the Nets are in a bad position?
I recall that when I was pissed that there was actually going to be a season because the Nets had a damn near insurmountable task ahead of them, I was met with differing opinions.
Hmph.
You guys trash killa on here for his perspective, but he came out and predicted we’d be stuck with the same garbage roster come christmas and it looks like he may be right.
I’ll be happy if we sign Nene and continue on from here with leaving ourselves some type of room to land Dwight.
by MrDollarBills on Dec 13, 2011 10:26 AM EST up reply actions
well Killa swears he will be a Laker regardless
And usually only shows up when we have a new story that support his claims.
by nwkiddnj on Dec 13, 2011 11:43 AM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
we won 26 games last year. half being played with out Deron
The whole season being played with a underachieving Lopez. If we sign NeNe and only NeNe we can STILL make the playoffs with Morrow and DJames or a 1year rental starting at SF IMO
by nwkiddnj on Dec 13, 2011 11:39 AM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
They shouldn't keep
Outlaw might wants the cap sapce for a trade.
"Next year, with a full training camp, I think he can go after that Scott Skiles' record of 30." - Billy King
imo
he should have already been off of the team
not sure what the logic is of keeping a player that has disrespected this team with his awful play and garbage approach to the sport.
by MrDollarBills on Dec 13, 2011 10:29 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
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How about we trade Deron
To Orlando for Howard.
Then turn around and give our package to New Orleans for CP3. David Stern at least knows how to rebuild.
You do realise Deron Williams is the person helping to recruit Howard?
Im sure Howard would love the fact you traded away his friend and the main reason he’s interested in the Nets.
Although I understand what your getting at
by N.Ireland Nets Fan on Dec 13, 2011 10:07 AM EST up reply actions
Yeah I'm half joking
Just annoying that the susperstar that could be had, plays the same position as the superstar we already have.
by KingofDenial on Dec 13, 2011 10:09 AM EST up reply actions
Carl Landry
I like this a lot. Especially if we get Nene.
My lil man.....can't tell me god don't exist.
by killa kadafi191 on Dec 13, 2011 10:06 AM EST reply actions
Not my taste
10% rebound rate. If you get Nene, Brook and Landry together, you better have the best rebounder in the NBA with them
If the Nets get Nene, they should retain Hump
Makes too much sense. Hump’s deal – expensive 1 year with team option.
Yeah if thats your frontcourt
u better see if Dennis Rodman is coming out of retirement so he can board
D Will in 2011...BK in 2012....
It's 10 Am...
Work day is probably just starting. But I am pretty bored.
by Ccrules2791 on Dec 13, 2011 10:07 AM EST up reply actions
why
My lil man.....can't tell me god don't exist.
by killa kadafi191 on Dec 13, 2011 10:14 AM EST up reply actions
I Posted this late last night
The 2 teams accused of tampering were NJ and Hou. What’s the connection you ask?
The Nets own the Rockets 1st round pick but it is lottery protected.
Howards agent, Fegan, is also Nene’s agent and has been rumored to be a target of Houston. Fegan probably promised the Rockets he would secure them Nene if they took off the lotto protection on their pick the Nets own.
Why would Fegan want that. It would make the Houston draft pick more attractive for a potential Howard to the Nets trade. He would get Howard to NJ to play with Williams and Nene would get his big contract. Everyone wins.
Dont be surprised if the deal is something like this
Orlando gets
-Lopez
-Kevin Martin (Fegan’s Client)
- Nets 2012 1st round pick
-Houston’s unprotected 2012 1st round pick
Houston gets
-Nene(Fegan’s Client)
Denver gets
-Hump(Fegan’s Client)
NJ gets
-Howard (Fegan’s Client)
-Turk
Other players like Farmar and Petro will be included somehow
by DWILL-of-the-GODZ on Dec 13, 2011 10:07 AM EST reply actions 5 recs
He prob still has a good relationship with him Im sure
If Fegan called Hump and his agent and said that he can get him a good contract from Denver then Im sure he listened.
I musy be the only person who finds it odd that Nene and Hump havent been picked up yet since they are 2 of the better bigs in this years FA
by DWILL-of-the-GODZ on Dec 13, 2011 10:14 AM EST up reply actions
Possible
But I don’t think anything will now happen until March. If Howard doesn’t have the conviction to make this happen, it won’t.
I think Orlando want to wait
The longer they wait, the better the Nets draft pick will be if we dont sign anyone. If they trade Dwight to us now then the Nets draft pick is prob going to be in the 20’s
by DWILL-of-the-GODZ on Dec 13, 2011 10:17 AM EST up reply actions
we thought this with denver to
it very likely they have no plans to trade howard till march
My lil man.....can't tell me god don't exist.
by killa kadafi191 on Dec 13, 2011 10:19 AM EST up reply actions
Yeah but with Denver, Melo wanted to be a Knick
Howard has said that he wants to be a Net.
Players usually get what they want
by DWILL-of-the-GODZ on Dec 13, 2011 10:20 AM EST up reply actions
true but the Knicks were in position because they would have had cap space
so one way or another melo would have been a knick if he didn’t sign the extension in denver. The point being they were force to deal with Denver. Otis knows we are on a clock the longer we wait the likely
My lil man.....can't tell me god don't exist.
by killa kadafi191 on Dec 13, 2011 10:21 AM EST up reply actions
Not if we dont sign anyone
Who do you think is better at Russian Rullette
Proky
or
Otis
by DWILL-of-the-GODZ on Dec 13, 2011 10:26 AM EST up reply actions
Otis
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by killa kadafi191 on Dec 13, 2011 10:36 AM EST up reply actions
The Longer this goes on the better it is for the Nets
If the Magic wait for March then the Nets will prob suck for the 1st few months which makes their draft pick more attractive. As our pick becomes more valuable the less likely we are to have to take on Turks contract. A top 10 pick in this years draft is valuable.
by DWILL-of-the-GODZ on Dec 13, 2011 10:29 AM EST up reply actions
there is
no guarantee that he will be traded to us
My lil man.....can't tell me god don't exist.
by killa kadafi191 on Dec 13, 2011 10:37 AM EST up reply actions
There is no guarantee the Sun will rise tomorrow either but when I see orange haze on the horizon Its likely
The writing is on the Wall
- Howard said he wants to be a Net
- Paul not going to the Lakers makes them far less attractive long term
- We have cap space to take back Turk
I think the Sun is rising on the Nets future
by DWILL-of-the-GODZ on Dec 13, 2011 10:43 AM EST up reply actions
The longer they wait, the harder it’ll be to get rid of Hedo
Fire Brian Schottenheimer.
http://www.facebook.com/pages/1000000-Jets-fans-against-Brian-Schottenheimer/104252133024352
They don't care
if they just sign J Rich old butt its obvious they care nothing about Hedo contract
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by killa kadafi191 on Dec 13, 2011 10:20 AM EST up reply actions
I thought I read that J Rich's contract wasnt finalized
Possiblly because they may be getting Martin
by DWILL-of-the-GODZ on Dec 13, 2011 10:21 AM EST up reply actions
martin who????
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by killa kadafi191 on Dec 13, 2011 10:22 AM EST up reply actions
I assume he means Kevin, no idea where he got that from though
Fire Brian Schottenheimer.
http://www.facebook.com/pages/1000000-Jets-fans-against-Brian-Schottenheimer/104252133024352
Yes Kevin Martin. I think he is heading to Orlando with Lopez
by DWILL-of-the-GODZ on Dec 13, 2011 10:24 AM EST up reply actions
Is this your guess or something you read somewhere?
Fire Brian Schottenheimer.
http://www.facebook.com/pages/1000000-Jets-fans-against-Brian-Schottenheimer/104252133024352
Its an educated guess
-Martin is a Fegan client
-Houston has already tried to clear his contract in order to bring in a big (Pau)
by DWILL-of-the-GODZ on Dec 13, 2011 10:31 AM EST up reply actions
So you still think this Dwight stuff is going down?
My lil man.....can't tell me god don't exist.
by killa kadafi191 on Dec 13, 2011 10:32 AM EST up reply actions
Yes I believe Dwight will be a Net
I def think that NJ tampered with Howard by arranging the trade I put above but Orlando gets 2 20 point scorers in Lopez and Martin, 2 1st rounders and get rid of Turks contract. It’s a pretty good deal considering the situation.
If Orlando waits till the season they arent going to get to move Turk so I expect a deal in the next few days
by DWILL-of-the-GODZ on Dec 13, 2011 10:39 AM EST up reply actions
But..
Everyone fails to realize how much better THEIR pick will be. The options are 2 picks in the teens, or a top 5 pick and a pick in the 20s. I guess it’s debatable which you’d prefer.
by KingofDenial on Dec 13, 2011 10:21 AM EST up reply actions
Hmm...A Great player and a bench player OR Two Very Good players?
Quite a dilemma.
But there’s always the chance that the “Great Player”(or top 5 pick) is a bust so….
The Houston Pick
The added bonus of Houston removing the protection is they can make trades with their own pick which due to us having with a restriction they currently can’t do.
Only thing is why do Houston give Martin and make their pick unprotected for a free agent they could potentially sign anyway?
Sorry if ive missed the point here
by N.Ireland Nets Fan on Dec 13, 2011 10:15 AM EST up reply actions
Houston doesn’t have the cap room for Nene
Fire Brian Schottenheimer.
http://www.facebook.com/pages/1000000-Jets-fans-against-Brian-Schottenheimer/104252133024352
Houston has been trying to move Martin to clear cap space and give playing time to C Lee
by DWILL-of-the-GODZ on Dec 13, 2011 10:18 AM EST up reply actions
Ok Cool
Didnt no that, i thought he was their best player and wasn’t looking to move him. That changes everything then, cheers for clearing that up
by N.Ireland Nets Fan on Dec 13, 2011 10:19 AM EST up reply actions
Orlando says "If you'd like to leave a message, please do so at the tone"
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"Your 2010-2011 New Jersey Nets - It Is What It Is"
Doubt Denver will take Hump
switch him with Scola who Houston was willing to trade. Houston will probably have to send the knicks 2012 pick that they own to Denver if Denver even gets involved.
by domininaldo1981 on Dec 13, 2011 11:03 AM EST up reply actions
The Outlaw decision is dependent on when you think you might have a shot at Dwight
If you think you can get him midseason, you amnesty Outlaw now for more cap space. If you think it will take until the summer, you hold off amnestying Outlaw so you don’t have to sign anyone else
A bunch of air would be an upgrade over Outlaw
Outlw just makes our hole at the forwards spots just bigger with his mere presence, he’s that big a detriment to this team
I'd actually prefer to amnesty Outlaw
And sign a 1 year guy, whoever.
Section 18, Row 7 at The Rock!
"Your 2010-2011 New Jersey Nets - It Is What It Is"
holding off
is foolish imo. you never know what we’ll need that space for
come on Billy…
by MrDollarBills on Dec 13, 2011 10:31 AM EST up reply actions
Biggest Problem
Is the fact we haven’t a clue whats going on in regards our front office. So it’s scary for people just waiting for news because going on the past we usually make bad decisions.
I think thats the problem, if only something was done like the Williams trade out of the blue but then again we got him after the protracted Melo saga.
It is frustrating though because for all we know Dwight Howard could be 1000% committed to the Nets and they are just trying to find an acceptable deal.
We just don’t know whats happening
by N.Ireland Nets Fan on Dec 13, 2011 10:10 AM EST reply actions
we have D-Will and 1 less year in NJ
Much more attractive than last year’s pitch of 2 years in NJ with a 12-win team.
I'd say they went 2/4 last season
Morrow was an excellent signing and Farmar was good. Outlaw was bad and so was Petro, but Petro’s deal isn’t crippling.
I have faith in BK, just need to continue to be as patient as we can be.
the thing about it, that last bad decision had nothing to do with BK
since King has been GM, he’s made all the right moves. So whether it’s Dwight or Nene, this team is on it’s way to be a competitor.
by domininaldo1981 on Dec 13, 2011 11:11 AM EST up reply actions
The Nets are in a bad position...
They have great cap space to sign good players to go along with an all star PG. The problem is this free agent class sucks. There mere fact that the nets would put in a call to Carl Landry is proof of that.
The only thing that can turn around the nets misfortunes right now is our young talent produces this year (because orlando is holding on to Howard until the very last minute- where they see they can’t)…
3 things that can really go along way with helping the nets position right now…
1- Lopez has to come into his own
2- D. James has to play with the fire and energy he showed in texas
3- Marshon has to turn out to be the steal of the draft…
maybe because I live in Houston and seen Landry more
but this guy would be a great addition especially coming off the bench. I love this move. Will likely be cheaper than hump
My lil man.....can't tell me god don't exist.
by killa kadafi191 on Dec 13, 2011 10:18 AM EST reply actions
Here here.
I think that’s why I’m high on him as well
"I just copped me an all-things, a professional ball team
Tell me I ain't the illest hustler ya'll seen"
exactly dude is the perfect guy off the bench
way better than Petro
My lil man.....can't tell me god don't exist.
by killa kadafi191 on Dec 13, 2011 10:26 AM EST up reply actions
off the bench awesome
starter bad
In Prokhorov & Billy King WE TRUST.
8 > 3
DH12 OR BUST!
Official Member of the "Travis OutLOL Society". 5 years, 35 Million Dollars worth of lulz.
I'll take Nene.
Just fill out the team.
I typed your symptoms into this thing up here and it says you could have network connectivity problems.
and landry off the bench would be great
now if we talking landry and Lopez then yea we are screwed
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by killa kadafi191 on Dec 13, 2011 10:22 AM EST up reply actions
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by killa kadafi191 on Dec 13, 2011 10:23 AM EST up reply actions
kidding ummmmmmmmmm
can I get a life line
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by killa kadafi191 on Dec 13, 2011 10:23 AM EST up reply actions
Outlaw?
Fire Brian Schottenheimer.
http://www.facebook.com/pages/1000000-Jets-fans-against-Brian-Schottenheimer/104252133024352
We got a winner !
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“Pressure can burst a pipe or pressure can make a diamond.”
Sorry, too late...But nobody goes home a loser in guess "Who I am" game.
Congratulation…Runner up prize – $1,000,000 Travis Dollars – ($1.69 est. value USD)
by M I K E on Dec 13, 2011 10:49 AM EST up reply actions 3 recs
Outlaw is ready to go! (not)
NYDNInterNets Stefan Bondy
Despite Nets saying he’s close to participating in contact practices, Travis Outlaw has looked nowhere near ready to play in training camp
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Man this frigging guy is such a piece of crap
What kind of piece of moiso gets paid 35 mil for the contract and comes out of shape and acts like this.
This is seriously why guaranteed contracts need to go.
this is a
reflection of Avery. People can talk about Thorn all they want. Avery wanted this guy and said he believed dude could blossom here.
Turns out he is a weed
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by killa kadafi191 on Dec 13, 2011 10:33 AM EST up reply actions 4 recs
well true
but i mean most of us were optimistic when he was signed. he was very good in portland
"Dear Mark - You showed the world not only what a great team you have, but also, that you can remain silent for a period of weeks--I don't know which is more shocking!"
DWill Era- 7-18
jesus mary and joseph
get this BUM OUT OF HERE
WHAT THE
by MrDollarBills on Dec 13, 2011 10:33 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Can't BK look into voiding his contract ?
For breaking his hand in boxing ? His moiso should’ve been running/shooting/dribbling.
That's what I'm thinking
The only logical explanation for this bum hanging around is that the Nets are investigating the incident & legal options.
Looks like Dollar was right
I remember people were so happy to have basketball back they got on him for his opinion.
Yet it proves if the season was cancel we could not only have Howard but likely other pieces as well. Look at how free agents are going over to the Knicks trying to find a way over there.
Dollar called this back in July and he was right. The Nets might have to put a mediocre team together just to appease the fans and Deron. Plus there is the thing about Otis might not want to do business with us.
I said this from jump when the rumor first came out that the nets wanted to put together a package for Dwight. If Otis doesn’t take this deal than walk away. Because the Nets offer will not get better. It won’t/
In the end it’s likely if Dwight is traded Otis will do trade him out of conference so he doesn’t have to see him succeed in his division.
My lil man.....can't tell me god don't exist.
by killa kadafi191 on Dec 13, 2011 10:31 AM EST reply actions
Dollar was right and even when the season started
he stood by his point and some wanted to make fun of his point but now they see why.
My lil man.....can't tell me god don't exist.
by killa kadafi191 on Dec 13, 2011 10:35 AM EST up reply actions
This is what you guys wanted though
You wanted to put King in between a rock and a hard place, and the same folks on here that were telling me to STFU are the same ones that will be attempting to fit King’s neck for a noose when this all blows up in our faces.
Sign Nene now, worry about Dwight later. Unless the Nets forget, they still have to worry about Williams hauling ass.
Look at the team he was practicing with yesterday.
I felt EMBARRASSED for this franchise.
by MrDollarBills on Dec 13, 2011 10:37 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
if the Knicks can be capped out
yet they can still swing a deal for Chandler, that means there are ways around this. So this opened my eyes to the fact that we may commit some salary to nene but we won’t be hogtied.
As Killa said, Orlando clearly does not care about having bad contracts on their books, all that Hedo stuff is overrated. So lets remain open to talks, but we need to move forward as if we’re going to solidify the frontcourt with Lopez/Nene. That is a SOLID C/PF combo and with Deron we are in the playoffs, King will just have to find a way to improve the team from there. But I’d rather go into the season with one of the best NBA frontcourts instead of Deron, Lopez, and a bunch of WTF
by MrDollarBills on Dec 13, 2011 10:40 AM EST up reply actions
I shared your feelings
I wanted to kill the season cause we had the best chance to get howard. Sign him outright and others. I was happy to get basketball back but knew it wouldnt be in the best interest of the nets.
by 1stnamelastname on Dec 13, 2011 11:07 AM EST up reply actions
PERFECTLY said
dollar. My sentiments exactly. Making the league and the casual more aware of the nets PERIOD is also another benefit. We need to be relevant again and then worry about Dwight and wheel and deal. The lakers do it, the knicks do it all the time with full caps. We can do it too. BK will find a way to spin it our way if its destined
great pic green
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by killa kadafi191 on Dec 13, 2011 10:37 AM EST up reply actions
I'm pretty sure people here will be complaining
that BK walked away “too soon” if he did the first time Otis said no.
At least BK isn’t as impatient as some fans.
too soon?
The season starts in 12 days.
We are very much in danger of getting SHUT OUT of this free agency.
There is no walking away too soon when the person you’re attempting to deal with is being hard assed.
Let Otis stew and let Dwight realize that he will be stuck in a no win situation. We have to move on.
by MrDollarBills on Dec 13, 2011 10:42 AM EST up reply actions
You'd lose your nerve quickly in a negotiation.
Nene’s still out there.
yeah and for how long? today is December 13th
its different when you’re negotiating from a position of power
the Nets, despite any kind of spin people on here want to put on this situation, have not been operating from that position. NOT ONCE.
Carmelo demands a trade to the Knicks. The Knicks were in a position of power because they could have afforded to just wait it out and signed him in the offseason. We were never really a threat.
Howard demands a trade to the Nets…but oh wait, he’s also willing to go to the Lakers and work things out with the Magic on top of that. Nets cannot feasibly allow themselves to field a garbage team and then hope to keep Williams in town. Nets cannot sign Dwight outright if they use capspace.
^that screams to me that the Nets are in the prone position…as usual.
We are at the mercy of our own superstar, the Magic’s front office, Nene could very well go back to Denver, and worst of all, we are at the mercy of TIME.
We have no TIME.
by MrDollarBills on Dec 13, 2011 10:55 AM EST up reply actions
Dude
Your opinion changes like the direction of the wind. First you were all for the season being cancelled. Then Howard is going to the lakers bandwagon, then Howard to the nets going mad happy and now back to we’re doomed and same old nets type attitude.
Just relax, everything will work out
by N.Ireland Nets Fan on Dec 13, 2011 10:57 AM EST up reply actions
yep
only an idiot maintains the same opinion.
I was happy because we were led to believe that it was a foregone conclusion. That is now looking like it will be false. Only an idiot sits there and keeps his opinion the same when the facts or situation changes.
Sit there with your fingers crossed bro.
by MrDollarBills on Dec 13, 2011 11:13 AM EST up reply actions
Seriously?
All ive said from the start is we don’t know what is going on in regards player movement we’re trying to make and how happy id be if we got Howard.
Im not siting here with my fingers crossed bro. You jump to conclusions going on twitter posts from different writers who a lot of the time get things wrong.
Also what facts have changed exactly?
Nets want Howard CHECK
Howard requests trade to Nets CHECK
Billy King staying silent on moves CHECK
So outside that what has changed?
by N.Ireland Nets Fan on Dec 13, 2011 11:18 AM EST up reply actions
Howard requests trade to Nets
next day, Howard says he willing to work it out with ORL as long as changes are made.
You sit here and pick and choose the information that fits best inside your comfort zone.
by MrDollarBills on Dec 13, 2011 11:49 AM EST up reply actions
Then I'm an idiot. And so are others on this blog then.
‘Cause UNTIL I see that we have signed..I mean ACTUALLY SIGNED Nene, this isn’t over yet.
Problem with "waiting until Brooklyn" is...
1) Knicks could make the Eastern Conference Finals- NYC will be all over them
2) No free agents worth getting in 2012 if Howard doesnt opt out (Gallinari is a RFA.. but him and Brook together? bad combo)
3) Instead of stinking and getting a high pick, we tread water, get the 12th pick which doesnt help
4) Have a decent shot at missing the playoffs= Deron could be swayed to go elsewhere (Don’t sell Cuban short.. Dirk may be 35.. but Dallas has proven to be a winning franchise.. Nets have not)
I think Deron is a loyal guy
But I also think he would grant Cuban one meeting. And I think Cuban could close the deal much better than Proky.
The Mavs can get all the way down to 28 million or so in salary next season if they want
by orangeeater on Dec 13, 2011 10:37 AM EST up reply actions
Cuban has the ring to show for it
and Deron was in their locker room the night that they won it.
Keep thinking that he doesn’t want to be apart of that atmosphere.
by MrDollarBills on Dec 13, 2011 10:57 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Unless the Nets get Dwight
Brooklyn will not matter. Honestly the team the Knicks is building looks damn good. Tyson amare melo Landry and Bibby??
The Knicks are contenders in the eat
My lil man.....can't tell me god don't exist.
by killa kadafi191 on Dec 13, 2011 10:40 AM EST up reply actions
east
My lil man.....can't tell me god don't exist.
by killa kadafi191 on Dec 13, 2011 10:41 AM EST up reply actions
Pretty good Knicks team but that's it
they’re locked in to that.
The Nets are working to build something better even if it takes longer than the page refreshes at ND.
I believe that they are too
but putting our eggs in Dwight’s basket may prove to be foolish.
If Howard was serious, he would make life VERY difficult for Orlando.
It is what it is. I would love to have him here, but reality is shaping up to say that we’ll have to find other means of getting to the top.
Lets not forget that Dallas has done everything so far to make sure that when the summer arrives, they can court our superstar PG.
We have a lot to lose.
by MrDollarBills on Dec 13, 2011 10:48 AM EST up reply actions
I remember you got like this last year too with Melo
I think you have to just have resolve that Billy is not twiddling his thumbs sitting around hoping that Dwight tells the Magic front office to go moiso themselves.
They have been talking to Fegan. They know what the deal is.
All indications are they will get Nene once they move on from Dwight. The only reason Nene is waiting, is probably because we are offering more money than anyone else.
Section 18, Row 7 at The Rock!
"Your 2010-2011 New Jersey Nets - It Is What It Is"
I don't think that King is twiddling his thumbs
but man, that doesn’t mean that he isn’t prone to making a mistake…or being had.
by MrDollarBills on Dec 13, 2011 10:58 AM EST up reply actions
exactly
the Knicks have continued to improve, meanwhile we continue to act like mules chasing after a carrot being held in front of our faces, and being led to nowhere.
We clown and mock the Knicks but guess what? They have two of the NBA’s top 15 players, and they just reeled in the defensive anchor of last season’s NBA Champions.
Meanwhile, in New Jersey, Deron Williams was practicing with Stephen Graham yesterday
by MrDollarBills on Dec 13, 2011 10:44 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
...
Meanwhile, in New Jersey, Deron Williams was practicing with Stephen Graham yesterday
Section 18, Row 7 at The Rock!
"Your 2010-2011 New Jersey Nets - It Is What It Is"
by eLonepb on Dec 13, 2011 10:46 AM EST up reply actions 3 recs
yes
let that quote ring loudly
YESTERDAY, DERON WILLIAMS WAS PRACTICING WITH STEPHEN GRAHAM
by MrDollarBills on Dec 13, 2011 10:50 AM EST up reply actions
that didn't turn out good.
"I think I’m the best point guard in the league. No reason. I just think I’m the best.’’-Deron Williams.
Nobody will remember that
Deron was practicing with Graham yesterday if by the end of the week he’s at a press conference with Nene, or practicing with Howard in March or in the next season. Those are still possibilities for the Nets that the Knicks have no chance of realizing. That’s the difference.
really?
people swore that the Knicks were capstrung and could do nothing, yet they swooped in and landed Chandler.
Lets not be dismissive of teams that are light years ahead of us right now.
by MrDollarBills on Dec 13, 2011 10:59 AM EST up reply actions
well congrats to the Knicks then
for bringing together Melo, Amare and Chandler. Good luck to them.
But the Nets are trying to pair up Deron with Dwight, something better, even if doesn’t happen at the next page refresh.
we want that to happen
but we just can’t make Orlando give Dwight to us.
Planning your moves around what someone else may or may not do is foolish. Trying to exert control over something you have no control of is stupid.
We need to be in control of what WE do.
by MrDollarBills on Dec 13, 2011 11:11 AM EST up reply actions
That was always a possibility
I was laughed at when I said that the Knicks should amnesty Billups & sign a center before the lockout even occurred. They’re still a flawed, injury-prone team. I wouldn’t get too upset over their move this offseason.
Not this year
Can Chandler & Amare be trusted to make it through a compressed season? The back to back to backs will really take their toll on the Knicks. That & their lack of quality guard play.
Next year, in a normal season & after signing a quality PG to the full MLE, they’ll be a top team in the East.
Disagree, nevermind the fact that Chandler is injury prone and has always played less mins to keep him fresh. He has always been prone to fouls due to his defence, i can see him fouling out a hell of alot this season with no real defensive help.
I think the Knicks aren’t going to be as strong as people think. I’d say 4th seed in the east behind Heat, Bulls and Boston is the best they can do.
But we don’t know how people will mesh together or players being out of shape so we haven’t a clue.
by N.Ireland Nets Fan on Dec 13, 2011 10:52 AM EST up reply actions
the knicks arent contenders
thats a second round team at best
and they have no depth no point guard and landry fields is a homeless mans version of starks
by mightymosdefinition on Dec 13, 2011 10:53 AM EST up reply actions
No depth all over
Who is going to play centre or power forward when Amare and Chandler go down. They blinked first and mortgaged their future on Chandler.
Good luck with that, the nets are aiming for a championship, not to be the new Hawks…
…i hope
by N.Ireland Nets Fan on Dec 13, 2011 10:55 AM EST up reply actions
oh?
and what are we?
Who is our starting SF? PF?
by MrDollarBills on Dec 13, 2011 11:00 AM EST up reply actions
Stop obsessing over the team as-is
The offseason isn’t over, Mr Patience
+1
We haven’t made a move because we’re looking to make the RIGHT move instead of the quickest
by N.Ireland Nets Fan on Dec 13, 2011 11:10 AM EST up reply actions
uh huh…
the right move would be to trade for Dwight…if that was an OPTION.
As of right now, it does not appear to be an option.
well as far as we know.
by MrDollarBills on Dec 13, 2011 11:14 AM EST up reply actions
how do you know its not an option?
where has this information came from?
deal with facts not speculation
by N.Ireland Nets Fan on Dec 13, 2011 11:19 AM EST up reply actions
the nets arent contending for the finals
the nets goal is the 6 7 or 8 th seed which they will get
im less worried about deron leaving then how the rookies play this year
if you guys want to not enjoy the season and whine after every loss that deron is leaving go right ahead
by mightymosdefinition on Dec 13, 2011 11:20 AM EST up reply actions
You rule.
Let’s watch Nets games together hahaha
Offtopic but
Ochocinco tweeted me back today and tried to set me up with some chick through twitter haha
ochocinco Chad Ochocinco
Why don’t u 2 date, exchange numbers now on DM RT @ItsMsKym @Rudibager we are everywhere … u just haven’t been looking in the right places
Championship here we come!
AlexKennedyNBA Alex Kennedy
Shawne Williams is weighing offers from the New York Knicks, New Jersey Nets and Miami Heat, according to sources close to the situation.
Section 18, Row 7 at The Rock!
"Your 2010-2011 New Jersey Nets - It Is What It Is"
shawn williams
lets sign NENE first, then worry about 4th tier BUMS
come on NETS.
by MrDollarBills on Dec 13, 2011 10:45 AM EST up reply actions 3 recs
WOW
WojYahooNBA Adrian Wojnarowski
Kwame Brown’s deal with the Warriors will be for one year, $7 million, league source tells Y!
by Bignetfaan on Dec 13, 2011 10:50 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
WTF WTF WTF WTF WTF
Are you f’in serious.
"I think I’m the best point guard in the league. No reason. I just think I’m the best.’’-Deron Williams.
lmao
Incredible. I would rather have Wilcox
by DJ HeavyDuty on Dec 13, 2011 10:52 AM EST up reply actions
it's truly mindblowing how much big men get paid
"I just copped me an all-things, a professional ball team
Tell me I ain't the illest hustler ya'll seen"
And after Taxes, it would still be a bit over 5 million, too...
Kwame is the luckiest Non-Basketball player in the NBA.
What a non-career he’s had thus far and getting paid for it.
I wish I was Kwame Brown.
Should we go after CP now?
I know it is kind of crazy, but if Deron can really play the 2 and we sign Nene and landry, it could be an interesting experiment.
1. CP
2. DWill
3. RJ
4. Landry
5. Nene
David Stern says no
Section 18, Row 7 at The Rock!
"Your 2010-2011 New Jersey Nets - It Is What It Is"
Idunno. He is getting desperate. The Clippers are not calling him back
He is going to wind up with a ton of egg on his face if this doesn’t play out well for them…
As soon as we sign Nene (if we do)
The prevailing wail around here is going to be that we overpaid him. As opposed to the prevailing wail now that we just sign him already.
Section 18, Row 7 at The Rock!
"Your 2010-2011 New Jersey Nets - It Is What It Is"
by eLonepb on Dec 13, 2011 10:51 AM EST reply actions 3 recs
Excactly
Nobody will ever be happy. I Just want a team that can win more than 24 games…
10:30 a.m. on february 23, 2011 woke up with no hope.
12:30 p.m. on february 23, 2011 hope was born
D-WILL ALL THE WAY!!!!!!!!!!!!
by HBreezy15 on Dec 13, 2011 10:53 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
He's a VERY solid player
High Baskeball IQ and alot of power, plus he can actually run if he has too
10:30 a.m. on february 23, 2011 woke up with no hope.
12:30 p.m. on february 23, 2011 hope was born
D-WILL ALL THE WAY!!!!!!!!!!!!
And gets how many rebounds?
He would be paid like that and isn’t even the best big man on our team…. Y’all are seriously trippin thinking he’s gonna come to the nets and be near a double double and I’d even bet he won’t beat out Lopez in rebounds…. Nono to Nene!!!!
by boogeewon on Dec 13, 2011 11:00 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
People talk like Nene is the worst rebounder in the league
He’s not a great rebounder, but he’s not a poor one, he’s an average one. The average center in the NBA grabs 14-15% of rebounds, and Nene is right at that mark. Marc Gasol is a worse rebounder than Nene, Roy Hibbert isn’t much better
funny... i dont remeber sayin that at all... or anything about his rebounding
10:30 a.m. on february 23, 2011 woke up with no hope.
12:30 p.m. on february 23, 2011 hope was born
D-WILL ALL THE WAY!!!!!!!!!!!!
I think he's a beast
Long dreamed about Nene + Lopez front court.
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15/8 as a 3rd or 4th option on Denver
That great for a team of ball hogs. I love Lopez and Nene together but will take Lopez and Dwight too
by DJ HeavyDuty on Dec 13, 2011 11:01 AM EST up reply actions
And he'd be 3rd or 4th option here too
But teams would have a nightmare matchup of Lopez and Nene in the post, with Deron distributing and Morrow wide open all day for 3’s.
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definetly
He passes the ball well too.
Id take Lopez/Nene over Dwight Big Baby any day
by DJ HeavyDuty on Dec 13, 2011 11:04 AM EST up reply actions
not really it was known we would over pay
him the nets are desperate.
Players will not take paycuts to come here
My lil man.....can't tell me god don't exist.
by killa kadafi191 on Dec 13, 2011 10:58 AM EST up reply actions
Players don't take paycuts to go anywhere killa
Outside of Lebron.
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how much did tyson take from the Knicks
I doubt he would have taken that from us
My lil man.....can't tell me god don't exist.
by killa kadafi191 on Dec 13, 2011 11:00 AM EST up reply actions
The most he could get, why?
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exactly. if the Heat could offer him 14 and we are offering 16 how much you think he would take.
Tyrus Thomas Josh Powell Scola???
My lil man.....can't tell me god don't exist.
by killa kadafi191 on Dec 13, 2011 11:08 AM EST up reply actions
you think that huh
So why didn’t Tyrus take more money from the Nets last year or Powell??
these a garbage players too
My lil man.....can't tell me god don't exist.
by killa kadafi191 on Dec 13, 2011 11:11 AM EST up reply actions
but
we already knew that we would have to overpay him.
I’d rather overpay for Nene and figure out how we can work things out instead of striking out at the plate.
by MrDollarBills on Dec 13, 2011 11:03 AM EST up reply actions
at least we know
that we’ll be better off with him than without him. This nonsense with Magic is playing out like Denver and Melo imo.
by MrDollarBills on Dec 13, 2011 11:04 AM EST up reply actions
That doesn't matter, just as long as the poster is consistent.
2010-2011 = acquire an All-Star via cap space as Thorn himself said
2011-2012 = make the playoffs without hindering future flexibility
2012 off-season = sign the second All-Star
2012-2013 = make a run for the championship
Mission accomplished thus far.
I like this team with Nene
And I’m sure “Plan B” is to sign Nene and still sign or trade for Dwight.
Everyone wants to compare what we are doing with NY. Well D.Will Nene and Lopez is pretty damn good compared to NY’s big 3. Deron IMO is the best player out of both teams. Nene was considered by most to be better than chandler and Lopez is no slouch. Basically I’m not worried about what NY does.
Signing Nene leaves us with all of our assets. Whether we get Dwight or not we can still make moves. Deron could very well make Lopez a 23 ppg allstar this season.
how are they going to trade for dwight
My lil man.....can't tell me god don't exist.
by killa kadafi191 on Dec 13, 2011 10:56 AM EST up reply actions
That's not my job
Bynum could get hurt a month in and Brook could be having a career year who knows. Everything will be fluid.
by Rodney Buford on Dec 13, 2011 10:58 AM EST up reply actions
We'll have the option
of a Lopez AND Nene package at the trade deadline. I’m already assuming Nene would do well with us to raise our trade package value.
I was one who was against the signing of Nene. Not because of his talent. But his price...
But this is the market we are in. I say it’s time to bring this guy in. He and lopez together would be too much for the knicks, heat, and boston front court to handle. And if you can get hump on the cheap to come off the bench, then it makes it an even tougher front court…
It’s time to make it happen…
true or
brook rebounding could fall off and bynum could have a career year. the unknowns.
thing is Orlando will take bynum before nene
My lil man.....can't tell me god don't exist.
by killa kadafi191 on Dec 13, 2011 10:59 AM EST reply actions
I dont think Brook's rebounding could fall off any further
Brook will board better mainly because Humph isnt here and he will have to
Last year, Brook had 6 double double which is pathetic.. had much more in 9-10
by orangeeater on Dec 13, 2011 11:00 AM EST up reply actions
The nets have no control over who otis trades Dwight to...
So they cannot base their moves on that. Billy should focus on what he can control And that’s going after players who are free to sign where they want. And the best “unrestricted” player available this year and next year is Nene…
exactly
I am tired of us begging for change.
Lets take the bull by the horns
by MrDollarBills on Dec 13, 2011 11:07 AM EST up reply actions
I'm expecting Brook to have a great year.
His scoring should go up, and I can’t see him board any worse. I would predict he will be around 8 rpg
by Rodney Buford on Dec 13, 2011 11:04 AM EST up reply actions
scoring has never been a problem with brook.
its his defense.
My lil man.....can't tell me god don't exist.
by killa kadafi191 on Dec 13, 2011 11:06 AM EST up reply actions
I agree
but how many center can score like Brook?
His value is underrated on this website.
by Rodney Buford on Dec 13, 2011 11:07 AM EST up reply actions
or brook could have a career year which is more likely
and we dont even need to trade for dwight
by mightymosdefinition on Dec 13, 2011 11:23 AM EST up reply actions
Let Denver pay him 2x as much
Kwame got a hug one year deal because it is a one year deal. We may do the same thing with Humhries- maintain cap space and overpay on a one year deal
by orangeeater on Dec 13, 2011 11:02 AM EST up reply actions
Its also a 1 year deal!
I’m all for Nene coming of we can overpay him for one year but over 4 years is ridiculous!!! Alot of people on here are acting like we can’t pull off other trades and it’s seriously comical to say the least!!! Hahaha
by boogeewon on Dec 13, 2011 11:29 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
You guys are funny, everyone knows Tyson Chandler will be an All-Star
Tyson Chandler 10.5ppg 10.5rpg 1apg
vs.
Brook Lopez 20.0ppg 8.0rpg 2apg
"I think I’m the best point guard in the league. No reason. I just think I’m the best.’’-Deron Williams.
If you ask people here
Lopez should get a contract of about $9M / year for 2 years with a team option on the 2nd.
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I like this
Although this isn’t the same post, i like that the Nets are being straight foward with the Magic and giving them a deadline, put pressure on them and if not, move on, also landry might be a good signing, depends on how much he can do
Not sure what the point of a deadline is
King: Hey Otis, it’s Billy
Otis: Hey Billy, before you even say anything, we’re not trading Dwight. We just aren’t
King: Otis, you have until the end of this week to trade Dwight to us or we’re signing Nene
Otis: Err, yeah thanks, we’re not trading him like I said
King: I’m serious, this week, and we sign Nene
Otis: Um, yeah you mentioned that. Good luck with that because we aren’t trading Dwight
King: You don’t understand, our offer goes away at the end of this week
Otis: Offer? I don’t want an offer. We aren’t trading him why don’t you understand that.
King: You’ve been warned.
Otis: You’ve been smoking weed.
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by eLonepb on Dec 13, 2011 11:04 AM EST up reply actions 6 recs
that was funny
"I think I’m the best point guard in the league. No reason. I just think I’m the best.’’-Deron Williams.
King: its better than the crack you are smokin
by DJ HeavyDuty on Dec 13, 2011 11:13 AM EST up reply actions
There should be a rule for obtaining the max, similar to the DRose rule
a player should have to make the all star game at least twice or gain the MVP in order to ask for a max contract
Stretch Provision, Nene, and Dwight
If we sign Nene to a 4 year deal for 60 million and still want to sign Dwight in the off season here is how we can do it.
Waive and stretch Nene. At that point there will be 3 years and 45 million left on his contract. If we waive him and stretch his contract out over 7 years, that gets him down to 6million and leaves us plenty of room to sign Dwight. Not saying the nets would do this, but just saying that signing Nene would not mean that we lose our leverage in the off season.
You don't sign & then stretch Nene
Why would you pay a guy $60+mil for a 1 year rental, only to have him sit on your cap at $7mil for another 7 years? That’s pure crazy.
Stretch is when you get rid of a player
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I think that Brook will have a career year
so I have no problem going forward with him and Nene.
Will Deron be okay with that? If they kick some ass, I’m pretty certain he’ll be fine with that.
Sign Nene, get rid of Outlaw, sign players to one year deals and go from there.
Deron said
either Nene or Chandler would “change the dynamic of the team” whatever that means exactly but it’s supposed to be positive.
A Lopez-Nene frontcourt will be one of the best in the league and that’s even supposed to be Plan B.
We should just sign Nene for one reason
The Knicks drafted him… and got rid of him… which means he actually good
10:30 a.m. on february 23, 2011 woke up with no hope.
12:30 p.m. on february 23, 2011 hope was born
D-WILL ALL THE WAY!!!!!!!!!!!!
Prepare for the worst case senarios
Kris Humphries: Big deal
Jamal Cawford: Big deal
"I think I’m the best point guard in the league. No reason. I just think I’m the best.’’-Deron Williams.
What is wrong with this guy
Now there are reports of Rudy wanting a buyout after the additions of West and Carter, who could fight him for minutes at guard.
"I think I’m the best point guard in the league. No reason. I just think I’m the best.’’-Deron Williams.
seems selfish
10:30 a.m. on february 23, 2011 woke up with no hope.
12:30 p.m. on february 23, 2011 hope was born
D-WILL ALL THE WAY!!!!!!!!!!!!
He'd be a nice piece for 3 or 4 mill
over 3. Basiclly what he was making before. bUt he’ll want more. At this point I’d prefer Hump as either the start of 1st big of the bench then Landry or at least next to Lopez. Hump first better next to Lopez because of his rebounding and energy. Landry is probably better next to Dwight because D12 can make up Landry’s poor rebouding and Landry probably has more scoring chops then the hump.
"Next year, with a full training camp, I think he can go after that Scott Skiles' record of 30." - Billy King
Hey what the hell, stay off topic please
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He is I don't know a guy named
DWIGHT HOWARD, who is he.
"I think I’m the best point guard in the league. No reason. I just think I’m the best.’’-Deron Williams.
yeah stay off topic and just repeat
what’s been said over and over in the past dozen days or so
We don't have any media
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Maybe a media morning
a full day may overwhelm Andy Vasquez
by brother_rat on Dec 13, 2011 11:24 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I doubt we can get iggy
but iggy,nene,lopez is a strong front court!
by brickznujerz on Dec 13, 2011 11:24 AM EST up reply actions
He’s always out of position, never challenges shooters. Just a lazy player.. I don’t think he’ll ever really maximize his abilities but I’m rooting against myself! I’d love to see him succeed and overcome what I see are his limitations.
If Avery or dwill can't motivate him then his contract year will
by brickznujerz on Dec 13, 2011 11:27 AM EST up reply actions
I don’t think he’s lazy. He runs the floor well on offense. I think we sometimes forget how enormous Brook Lopez is. You could argue that he’s more Zydrunas Ilgauskas than he is Dirk.
I just think he has to learn how to defend better. He’s a smart kid. He will figure it out. Speaking of Dirk, how many NBA seasons did it take him to learn to defend?
Dirk still cant defend
Hes just better than what he was when he first came in the NBA
But hes still not a good defender
D Will in 2011...BK in 2012....
its funny to see the logical positive people and the negative irrational posters
I can’t wait to see how this plays out
Good Luck Billy
by DJ HeavyDuty on Dec 13, 2011 11:25 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
Same
I think we have all just been on the edge of our seats for the last week, and our butt is getting tired. We want to cheer already.
Or at least, have a reason to whine and complain.
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I dont see why everyone is freaking out
as long as we bag Nene – we’re fine
and good luck to other teams beating the package we’d put out in March, if we have to go all out
I just hope we have the backup backup plan to purge cap space to sign Dwight in FA, if the Magic just keep him all year
there are people who refuse to not be negative
if brooks an all star this year these same people will talk about brook leaving via free agancy
by mightymosdefinition on Dec 13, 2011 11:27 AM EST up reply actions
We should be calling Minny and see what it would take to take Beasley off their hands
Play him at SF with James, sign Nene, Hump, maybe Arenas if we’re giving up Farmar in a trade.
Dwill/Arenas/Gaines
Morrow/Brooks
Beasley/James
Nene/Hump/Jwill
Lopez/Sheldon/Petro
Interesting, Hollinger's player profiles for the Nets got pushed back
We were originally supposed to be profiled today or tomorrow on ESPN Insider, but checking today, it’s been pushed back until the 21st.
Obviously because they think this is going to take awhile before we have a team in place.
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if you're an insider you can already see it
it’s just not put on the front page yet
I don't think so
We’re up Dec 21st. Hornets the next day, which also makes sense.
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no
http://insider.espn.go.com/nba/story/_/page/2011-12-njn-preview/new-jersey-nets-player-profiles
it was written up 13 days ago
Yeah, I imagine they will redo it
Once the new team is set.
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Did anybody see the Craig Sager / Dwight Howard interview yesterday ?
Howard did not seem to excited or happy to me.
He seemed uncertain as if he’s not sure what coming up next.
BLUE PRINT FOR GREATNESS
Dang….Knicks look like they had their own.
Mike Bibby, Landry Fields, Carmelo Anthony , Amare Stoudemire and Tyson Chandler:
A combined 11.1 assists per game last season.
Toney Douglas will start
2010-2011 = acquire an All-Star via cap space as Thorn himself said
2011-2012 = make the playoffs without hindering future flexibility
2012 off-season = sign the second All-Star
2012-2013 = make a run for the championship
Mission accomplished thus far.
>>>
Chris_Broussard Chris Broussard
There r only 4 teams Dwight Howard would sign longterm deal with – Orl, NJ, LAL, Dal – a source says.
sources
So the likely destinations if he is traded LA or NJ, Then the teams that can sign him if he isn’t traded Orl or Dallas.
My lil man.....can't tell me god don't exist.
by killa kadafi191 on Dec 13, 2011 11:44 AM EST up reply actions
Again
1) Mavs have no assets – if Cuban pulls it off I’ll just call him a genius.
2) Orlando has no flexibility – although you can never count out the home team.
3) The Lakers refuse to give up with Pau and Bynum.
4) Has to be the Nets… Lets keep the faith!!!
Is he just retweeting himself from last week?
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Only twist I see is ORL is in there
Meaning maybe he is considering staying afterall.
Ric Bucher reported that he's heard that Deron Williams and Dwight Howard have discussed playing together in the future. - Kevin Baumer
same old news
Ric Bucher reported that he's heard that Deron Williams and Dwight Howard have discussed playing together in the future. - Kevin Baumer
ONE MORE REMINDER
Please just discuss the topic. If you don’t like someone’s point of view, then disagree respectfully or don’t respond at all.
“you took the most negative view possible” may seem like just a minor insult, but it took the discussion completely downhill.
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by NetsDaily on Dec 13, 2011 11:44 AM EST reply actions 2 recs
It's official
I hate Broussard. Pretty much hate Dwight Howard.
I just want December 26th to come. Sick of all this speculation.
I think it is time Proky puts one of these up in Orlando
by SovietBrooklyn on Dec 13, 2011 11:45 AM EST reply actions 4 recs
Haha that'd be great
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I just want this to end
Im tired of it
by 1stnamelastname on Dec 13, 2011 11:48 AM EST reply actions
Agreed
I want to be a fan of the Nets again and watch BASKETBALL.. Not sit and think about what may or may not happen or who we may or may not sign.
I like the reference!
Devils got Kovi! Hope the same happens with the Nets and Howards!!
I think we are all suffering from what is known as "time dilation"...
In the theory of relativity, time dilation is an observed difference of elapsed time between two events as measured by observers either moving relative to each other or differently situated from gravitational masses. An accurate clock at rest with respect to one observer may be measured to tick at a different rate when compared to a second observer’s own equally accurate clocks. This effect arises not from technical aspects of the clocks nor from the fact that signals need time to propagate, but from the nature of space-time itself.
wow your post gave me a flashback
by MrDollarBills on Dec 13, 2011 11:51 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I'm glad SOMEONE got the reference.
I loved that show. Very educational and fun.
I loved that show
Now you have me wanting to hunt down a DVD box set (if such a thing even exists).
Nets_PR Nets PR Dept. The Nets have officially signed free agent Shelden Williams.
by davidnets on Dec 13, 2011 11:57 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
Bah. I found my "Championship" comment to be funnier.
I guess no one got the joke. Oh well. ***sniff***
Wow. Seems everyone gave up posting....
Of course since there’s no news, that’s natural.
and why am I talking to myself?
That’s not healthy….lol.
Nene and Lopez:
Better or worse than Boozer and Noah?
This conversation starter brought to you by Coach Joe.
I'd say better
Just as long as Nene doesnt turn into the next Brand or Boozer – large contract, bad performance
If you take into account the points and assists of Derrick Rose and D-Will, counting every assist as 2 points, Deron Williams is responsible for 40.7 points a game vs. Rose’s 40.4 points per game.
That Bulls team won the most games in the NBA last year. I really think Nene, Lopez and D-Will is the start of something big.
Marginally better (maybe); Very Different
All 4 guys are comparable in talent. Chicago’s duo are extreme specialists, i.e. Boozer is all offense & Noah is all defense. Nene is the most versatile & well rounded. Noah is the better compliment to both Boozer & Lopez. They have a slight edge defensively, and a good edge in rebounding. I think we have a good edge offensively, and a great edge health-wise.
Shelden is not the center I was looking for
2010-2011 = acquire an All-Star via cap space as Thorn himself said
2011-2012 = make the playoffs without hindering future flexibility
2012 off-season = sign the second All-Star
2012-2013 = make a run for the championship
Mission accomplished thus far.
Sounds like something Obi-Wan Kenobi would say using his Jedi Mind tricks :
“Shelden is not the center you are looking for”
I'm resorting to that.
2010-2011 = acquire an All-Star via cap space as Thorn himself said
2011-2012 = make the playoffs without hindering future flexibility
2012 off-season = sign the second All-Star
2012-2013 = make a run for the championship
Mission accomplished thus far.
Better
Even though I like Noah and Boozer, they are overrated and overpaid.
Um because there isn’t even a CBA yet. If the new CBA said that you could amnesty a player you traded for, then we definitely wouldn’t use it on Outlaw. However, since we now know we can’t, once the rules are in place, the Nets can make a decision. <--- eLonepb
i thought this was funny lol
NYDNInterNets Stefan Bondy
At this point, Shelden Williams’ wife, Candace Parker, would also add depth to the Nets’ frontcourt rotation
Bondy is a polarizing figure
You either ya really like him or ya really dislike him
LMAO....This ad was on top of NetsDaily home page...
They sure know how to target their audience…
by M I K E on Dec 13, 2011 12:04 PM EST reply actions 3 recs
We are a perfect target audiance.
This is only slightly better than the adds that were on Netsdaily to marry Russian women so they can get green cards.
Wow ND has gone crazy
Almost 700 comments in a thread about the Nets calling Carl Landry. I hope Otis sees how crazy he’s making us by holding out on D12.
On that topic, Landry is a nice back up PF, maybe even a starter with Dwight by his side. He’s a guy that puts points on the board, that’s valuable.
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