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Bottom Line: Players Want Power

It's all about power, or if you want, influence. Deron Williams has it. Dwight Howard wants it. And both feel they can get it with the Nets. It may or may not be the aftertaste of a bitter lockout, but in comments Sunday, Williams characterized David Stern as a "bully" for nixing the Chris Paul trade and Howard criticized Otis Smith for not listening to him on personnel matters.

The influence is going to manifest itself in a number of ways. There's more news this morning, for example, that the Nets are interested in Gilbert Arenas. Williams has reportedly inquired about him. The Magic dumped him against Howard's wishes

And while Smith has said he'll check with the NBA's 29 other teams about a trade, Howard is making it plain that he won't sign an extension with anyone other than his No. 1 or No. 1A choices, the Nets and Lakers. That will limit teams' interest in sending valued assets Orlando's way.

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What's your gut feeling, NI?

Does a trade happen soon – within days or even hours?
Or is Otis serious? Will he wait this thing out, really causing his own franchise a full-blown Dwightmare?

Are the Bulls even a real contender? Which other teams could the Nets include in a three-team trade for Dwight that gives the Magic more than Brook and our two future first rounders?

So. Many. Questions.

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by Rusty_b on Dec 12, 2011 7:27 AM EST reply actions  

I'll step in

I think it’s done today.

by Zartan on Dec 12, 2011 7:29 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

I hope so

I’m just figuring that BK wasn’t kidding when he said he’s keeping his cards close to his chest this time around – that the only people who really know his next move are he and the Prokmaster General.

I’m hoping, therefore, that he’s on the precipise of another D-Will trade-like, Ninja blockbuster – one that nobody will see coming. I think, and this isn’t based on a hell of a lot, that our proposed deal would include a third team – one capable of giving the Magic another strong piece. What they would get back? God, I don’t know.

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by Rusty_b on Dec 12, 2011 7:34 AM EST up reply actions  

*precipice

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by Rusty_b on Dec 12, 2011 7:34 AM EST up reply actions  

You have other top dogg franchises

Trying more so to keep us out of the loop than anything .

Lakers are really smart but it’s gonna be hard to land Paul (no Paul no DH). ESPN is reporting that Paul wouldn’t mind the clippers and if they give up what their asking for, think its a good deal.

by Zartan on Dec 12, 2011 7:41 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

I have a 9 hour time difference so I a wake up to NetsDaily

And my gut feeling says I will wake up in the next 48 hours to a headline that NI has carved up saying : Dwight Howard Is a Net.

When can i get my Dwight Howard Brooklyn Nets Jersey?

by AmbassadorAmeer on Dec 12, 2011 7:50 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

It will be soon

The Magic are not going to want their season to be a total circus

by Nardfather on Dec 12, 2011 10:59 AM EST up reply actions  

the one time I feel ok quoting incarceratedbob

"@incarceratedbob: BREAKING NBA NEWSSource: JAY-Z #Nets told close associates that Dwight Howard deal with Magic will be finalized next 72Hrs #StandUpBK"

by JimmyLips on Dec 12, 2011 11:14 AM EST via iPhone app up reply actions  

Hopefully they don't want Arenas to make more than the vet minimum

Guy is trash. There’s a reason why teams don’t listen to their players for personnel suggestions… the players usually suck at it.

by J-Nasty on Dec 12, 2011 7:27 AM EST reply actions  

While I agree with you, J

It’s worth signing Gilly if it helps us land Dwight. Both those guys know that, in his current state, Arenas won’t command more than, say, a two-year $6-7m deal.

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by Rusty_b on Dec 12, 2011 7:28 AM EST up reply actions  

And that’s probably his max right now.

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by Rusty_b on Dec 12, 2011 7:29 AM EST up reply actions  

if dwight wants to create his team

Maybe he should buy his own franchise

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by Mike28Live on Dec 12, 2011 7:47 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

If Dwight is serious about Gilly being a factor in him deciding his next team...

Or if he really wants him on his next team… Would you, as Billy King, really say no to that?

I don’t like Arenas either – at all. But the reward far outweighs the risk, even if Arenas is a complete piece of Moiso.

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by Rusty_b on Dec 12, 2011 7:53 AM EST up reply actions  

Arenas was a good player

He got a massive contract but he hasn’t always been trash. For a vet min what exactly is the risk?

He has talent (obviously) maybe a fresh start and not having to worry about being a laughing stock due to the insane contract hanging over his head frees up some pressure and lets him get on with the game.

I would sign Arenas in a heart beat for vet min, without a second thought. Gives you even more options and lets you move Farmar on for some assets.

by N.Ireland Nets Fan on Dec 12, 2011 7:59 AM EST up reply actions  

^^^ My point

Pretty much, anyway.

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by Rusty_b on Dec 12, 2011 8:01 AM EST up reply actions  

Arenas will complicate things

He will have to get playing time playing alongside Dwill, this takes minutes away from Brooks.

by Zartan on Dec 12, 2011 7:34 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

great locker room influence!!!

"It's as sweet as it ever was, I'll tell you. Now, hopefully, we started something and we can win some more championships, but we're going to enjoy this one right now. Have a little champagne." --Julius Erving, May 12, 1976, ABA champion Nets locker room.

by Net Income on Dec 12, 2011 8:06 AM EST up reply actions  

That's the reason I don't want Arenas

The Nets are OK at SG, they don’t really need Gilbert. If he wants the vet minimum and a shot at a roster spot to appease Dwight and Deron, OK. But no guarantees above that.

by ZR on Dec 12, 2011 8:43 AM EST up reply actions  

Definitely the minimum if ever

Arenas just got 60 million dollars for nothing.

by stenpoint on Dec 12, 2011 7:48 AM EST up reply actions  

why do we need g.a if we have

3 pg and a 3 pt specialist/ scorer not to mention deron can play he 2 too ????

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by Mike28Live on Dec 12, 2011 7:33 AM EST via mobile reply actions  

Arenas, is a vet min.

That should be fine. LA, is the only threat,
there is always the posturing, they like bynum over brook, but also like brook better for his durability and offense. Gasol offsets this for them, they believe LA eventually gives in.

by SunilP on Dec 12, 2011 7:41 AM EST via mobile reply actions  

SO TRUE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Dwight doesn’t like the fact that his desires fall on deaf ears. Which led me to this thought this morning:

Dwight is watching how pissed off Kobe is right now. Why? Because the Lakers front office are doing what they want and not informing him. I watched Kobe on sports center last night. He was so mad at the Odom trade. Kobe has no clue as to what the Lakers front office is doing. And they could care less about what he thinks…

This is exaclty what’s happening to Dwight in Orlando. So why would he want to go to a team that he would experience the same thing? In New Jersey, Deron stratgegizes with the GM. In LA, Kobe is ignored by the GM.

I wonder which scenario entices Dwight…

by aug93 on Dec 12, 2011 7:42 AM EST reply actions  

Excellent point...

I like the way you think.

As for the question above, I believe this drags out into the season and we (hopefully) fall back on Nene because of it.

by Kmart6nets on Dec 12, 2011 7:48 AM EST up reply actions  

Why?

That takes away one of our best assets in a possible Howard trade which is our cap space. We need to keep the cap space until Howard is either a Net or a Laker.

You don’t move on when you have a chance to sign one of the best players in basketball. This is Dwight or bust, always has been since we traded for Deron Williams so why lessen our chances by signing Nene now?

We’ve came this far, lets fight till the end and not take the same old Nets attitude. He wants to sign for the Nets so lets make it happen.

Also last note, were one of the reason’s a trade is highly likely to happen. If it wasn’t for us and being able to sign Howard next summer for nothing he wouldn’t have as much leverage and the Magic could call his bluff because he’d be losing millions if he isn’t traded before the new year.

If we keep pushing hard and trying 100% theres a very good chance we get him. Plus we’re showing how badly we want him by chasing him so hard while the lakers choose to pursue CP3. Once they realised it would be hard to get CP3 they moved onto Dwight Howard.

Lets go Billy King, make it happen!!

by N.Ireland Nets Fan on Dec 12, 2011 7:56 AM EST up reply actions  

Obviously Dwight is the #1 choice

I meant that if we strike out on Howard and Nene signs somewhere else, that would be pretty lame. So my (hopefully) was in regards to us signing Nene if we miss out on Dwight.

by Kmart6nets on Dec 12, 2011 7:59 AM EST up reply actions  

Yeh sorry

Thought you meant move on and sign Nene now.

I know what your saying but its worth the risk for Howard in my eyes.

by N.Ireland Nets Fan on Dec 12, 2011 8:00 AM EST up reply actions  

I'd assume we're in close contact with Nene's agent

And if he’s ready to sign elsewhere we’ll make one last push for Dwight and if it’s a no, we move on to Nene… at least that’s what I’d assume. Who knows.

by Kmart6nets on Dec 12, 2011 8:02 AM EST up reply actions  

We definitely are

Nene’s agent is Dwight’s agent.

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by Rusty_b on Dec 12, 2011 8:06 AM EST up reply actions  

Oh I know...

Just took a break from the mayhem this weekend and wanted to voice my opinion at work today :)

by Kmart6nets on Dec 12, 2011 8:07 AM EST up reply actions  

Nene

If this drags out and we do sign nene then after 30 days he is tradeable, do you guys think the magic would take him and we could keep brook?

by bustamove22 on Dec 12, 2011 10:26 AM EST up reply actions  

Man i sincerely hope we don't end up with Gilbert Arenas

I just don’t like that guy. It would take a lot to convince me otherwise.
Not really good for image, either.

Brook-Brooks-Brookyln
LET'S DO THIS!

by OneCGuy on Dec 12, 2011 7:49 AM EST reply actions  

I am starting to go back to my old feelings

That i would rather keep Brook, Get Nene, avoid losing 1st rounds and being stuck with Gilbert.

Yeah… That doesn’t sound too bad.

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LET'S DO THIS!

by OneCGuy on Dec 12, 2011 8:00 AM EST up reply actions  

Will Arenas be

a combo guard off the bench or a 2guard starting alongside Deron

by stenpoint on Dec 12, 2011 7:49 AM EST reply actions  

He definitely wouldn’t start.

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by Rusty_b on Dec 12, 2011 7:50 AM EST up reply actions  

broussard tweet..

Chris Broussard @Chris_Broussard Close
Nets will attempt to sign Arenas if they able to trade for Dwight Howard, source says

by syc514 on Dec 12, 2011 7:50 AM EST reply actions  

Right on time, as usual Broussard. *facepalm

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by Rusty_b on Dec 12, 2011 7:51 AM EST up reply actions  

Chris_Broussard Chris Broussard
Nets will attempt to sign Arenas if they able to trade for Dwight Howard, source says

by d2d on Dec 12, 2011 7:51 AM EST reply actions  

Wrong on a lot of other stuff like the deal happening

Also, if my timeline is still correct, Howard didn’t actually do it until after Broussard reported it

by muwu on Dec 12, 2011 8:16 AM EST up reply actions  

I think technically

He reported that Howard was GOING to ask for a trade here… which was correct. I could be wrong on that though.

by Kmart6nets on Dec 12, 2011 8:17 AM EST up reply actions  

he wrote he was going to ask for a trade

then when he went on television, he said it was close and could happen by day’s end which wasn’t anywhere near the truth.

He also was the reporter who most took the Magic line on the secret meeting in Miami.

"It's as sweet as it ever was, I'll tell you. Now, hopefully, we started something and we can win some more championships, but we're going to enjoy this one right now. Have a little champagne." --Julius Erving, May 12, 1976, ABA champion Nets locker room.

by Net Income on Dec 12, 2011 8:20 AM EST up reply actions  

I have a feeling that if he agent 0 comes to the nets it will be one fun and exciting team

and arenas is only 29 i hope he could get back to the way he was a few years back

by alboboy on Dec 12, 2011 7:55 AM EST reply actions  

I posted this in another thread...

Otis is so pissed that Dwight is leaving Orlando that he is seriously contimplating letting him walk in free agency just to screw him out of millions of dollars. With a sign and trade Dwight can get the 5 year max from Orlando. If he becomes a free agent next summer and signs with a team they can only give him a 4 year deal with less percentage raises annually.

I know Otis sounds like a complete moron but that’s only because we are looking at the situation logically. We know the Nets have the best deal and we know Dwight wants to come here. The smart move would be to trade him to the Nets. Otis didn’t get a high profile job like being General Manager of a professional sports team by being a moron. The guy has something up his sleeve. My take is pride. He has too much pride and doesn’t want to admit failure by trading a player like Dwight Howard to another team.

It’s going to take Otis’s bosses to step in and say get it done, otherwise, Dwight wont get traded and will be a free agent next year. I can see unemployment in the distant future for Otis….

by breaking20 on Dec 12, 2011 7:59 AM EST reply actions  

Takes very little intelligence to be an NBA GM

The NBA is a like a little club. As long as you’re inside the circle, you can get places even without knowing anything

by muwu on Dec 12, 2011 8:01 AM EST up reply actions  

I would agree with you

But in this specific situation i think Otis is just arrogant and doesn’t want to admit failure.

by breaking20 on Dec 12, 2011 8:02 AM EST up reply actions  

Otis could be in trouble

Howard talked about the meeting with the Magic President (i think it was) where they came to an understanding for both the Magic and himself. Maybe Howard was voicing his concern about Otis to him and basically complaining about how bad a gm he is. If you look at the signings he has made, its unreal how he is still in the job and it wouldnt surprise me if the Magic are thinking of firing him right at this time.

Think about it, he obviously decided the Magic were going to try and stay competitive rather than a rebuild. So he tries to sign players to make the magic better in his eyes, so he signs big baby. He then agrees to resign Richardson for a decent amount of money but this is the thing, that deal hasn’t been finalised (or so i read yesterday) even though it was over the weekend an agreement was reached. It might be that deal is on hold while the Magic decide what the heck to do about the situation. Add in all the job cuts in the organisation and does that sound like a team that should be pushing to remain competitive? Sounds like there hitting the restart button. I know im guessing a hell of alot here obviously but I think part of this dragging on is internal problems with the Magic.

The whole phone call and the ceo stepping down etc along with the bad blood with Howard could push the ownership over the edge to replace him. Just was thinking about it there and deciding to go on abit lol sorry for the rant

by N.Ireland Nets Fan on Dec 12, 2011 8:10 AM EST up reply actions  

I don't think Alex Martins will let that happen

If Otis wants to play hardball, he’ll lose his job.

by ZR on Dec 12, 2011 8:46 AM EST up reply actions  

Fortunately Otis doesn't cut the checks

Ultimately if the Magic ownership wants to get something out of Howard’s departure, they will.

by Anthony Perez on Dec 12, 2011 10:35 AM EST up reply actions  

I would definitely sign agent zero for the right price

Could play the 1 or 2. Just don’t let him play cards on the plane.

by mikeslovak on Dec 12, 2011 7:59 AM EST reply actions  

I just don't see any playing time for Arenas

Not unless BK trades Morrow and or Farmar, which is very likely. Morrow and/or Farmar could be involved in any trade for Dwight. I would thing Morrow more than Farmar.

by breaking20 on Dec 12, 2011 8:01 AM EST reply actions  

I'd really like to keep Farmar and Morrow

Two very solid role players. And Morrow is just an absolute elite shooter. I’m sick of losing shooters from this team for nothing (see: Korver, Kyle).

by Kmart6nets on Dec 12, 2011 8:03 AM EST up reply actions  

I'd love to keep them both also

But giving up Morrow to get Dwight Howard is something you don’t hesitate about.

by breaking20 on Dec 12, 2011 8:05 AM EST up reply actions  

if we get howard

Farmer will most likely end up in orl

by brickznujerz on Dec 12, 2011 8:08 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

I'd trade away Farmar easily

Arenas isn’t what he used to be, but he can still be a dangerous sixth man

by muwu on Dec 12, 2011 8:06 AM EST up reply actions  

I would too

Deron will be getting most of the minutes anyway. It was nice having an elite 2nd string PG but it’s not necessary any more. Trade him for a pick and get Arenas for vet min 1.5mil and call it a day. A little cap relief and a serviceable backup PG. Plus Deron and Dwight would be happy since they both want him.

by breaking20 on Dec 12, 2011 8:08 AM EST up reply actions  

Arenas can play the two too...

…he’s got a big enough wingspan for that

by Proballxx on Dec 12, 2011 8:49 AM EST up reply actions  

Wouldn't mind Arenas

I see Farmar being moved at some point before or during the season. Arenas would likely take Farmars role off the bench

by netsdwill on Dec 12, 2011 8:09 AM EST via mobile reply actions  

sorry knicks!

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by soul driver on Dec 12, 2011 8:14 AM EST reply actions  

Pretty dumb move IMO

Ridnour is a serviceable PG, and Rubio is there too of course

by muwu on Dec 12, 2011 8:15 AM EST up reply actions  

Farmar is definately underrated

He is getting better and better as a point guard. I thought he was poor at the start of last season but he surprised me towards the end of the season when Deron was injured and he was the number 1 pg.

His experience in europe seems to have given him more confidence and I think he would be a nice pick up for a team.

by N.Ireland Nets Fan on Dec 12, 2011 8:14 AM EST reply actions  

I agree, big Farmar fan

Going to be disappointing if he gets traded, but if it’s in a trade for Howard I’ll get over it pretty quickly!

by Kmart6nets on Dec 12, 2011 8:17 AM EST up reply actions  

Amare is an absolute tool

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by Angelo Mihalitsianos on Dec 12, 2011 8:16 AM EST reply actions  

#STATcity?

Soon to be #DWIGHTcity my friend

…..i hope :)

by N.Ireland Nets Fan on Dec 12, 2011 8:21 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

someone wants morrow or brooks?

Maybe they’re looking for arenas as SG to replace morrow/brooks?

Jfarm+morrow+brook+marshon+djames could be part of 3/4-team deals.

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by NETFAN on Dec 12, 2011 8:17 AM EST reply actions  

Agreed.. And this might drag for amonth

So GMs can evaluate players more.

That being said, we’ll have nene day1
Yet, we’ll land dwight after some time (feb?)

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by NETFAN on Dec 12, 2011 8:20 AM EST up reply actions  

Dwight has to be traded by Jan one to get Bird rights

by ShawnG on Dec 12, 2011 8:21 AM EST up reply actions  

Bird rights

I am lost.. But I thought that would only apply for orlando?

We’re not re-signing anyone, so thismshouldnt be a big deal for us, no?

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by NETFAN on Dec 12, 2011 8:26 AM EST up reply actions  

If we trade for Dwight before said date, we obtain his bird rights as well, meaning he can re-sign here for significantly more money.
If we obtain Dwight after said date, we do not obtain his bird rights and he loses out on some good money.
At least that’s how I understand it.

by Kmart6nets on Dec 12, 2011 8:28 AM EST up reply actions  

This would make sense

To have nene, hedo and dwight.

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by NETFAN on Dec 12, 2011 8:32 AM EST up reply actions  

If he’s traded to us by Jan 1 he can resign here for 5 yrs instead of 4…way more money

by ShawnG on Dec 12, 2011 8:28 AM EST up reply actions  

If hes here

Is 5 gonna make big diff vs 4? Esp if you know the owner wants you and is willingly going to renego

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by NETFAN on Dec 12, 2011 8:30 AM EST up reply actions  

I think I'm in the minority...

But I’d rather include Brooks in the trade than Farmar or Morrow. Farmar and Morrow are proven vets who can obviously do their jobs. Plus honestly if we’re going to be competing for a title, how much time is a rook going to get on the court anyway?

by Kmart6nets on Dec 12, 2011 8:22 AM EST up reply actions  

Brooks cant be traded for a month

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by Net Income on Dec 12, 2011 9:05 AM EST up reply actions  

Gotcha...

Oh well… Think they’ll take Petro? :P

by Kmart6nets on Dec 12, 2011 9:07 AM EST up reply actions  

Remember how avery praised favors?

Thats how he sounded like in the interviews for mbrooks…

This time i hope he meant to keep him not trade him.

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by NETFAN on Dec 12, 2011 8:22 AM EST up reply actions  

More likely Farmar...

Deron and Dwight both like Morrow, and Brooks can’t be traded til after the Dwight-max-contract deadline, thankfully.

by JohnFromLongIsland on Dec 12, 2011 8:21 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Who would want farmar?

I like him, but he is always overshadowed by stars. It would ge good for him to be traded, esp he wants more responsibilities. Most likely hornets as cp3 is gone (bellineli?) or could it be the heat (james jones?).

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by NETFAN on Dec 12, 2011 8:41 AM EST up reply actions  

If it makes our offer even slightly better I'd throw in Farmar and Morrow in there, James too

We could always sign Arenas and another SF like AK or Shawne Williams and we still have Gaines to lean on

We really don’t have much else to give

by muwu on Dec 12, 2011 8:20 AM EST reply actions  

At this point, I'm throwing everything I can in there to avoid letting this slip away

Throwing those 3 guys in there, do we even have any more guys on the roster that we can trade? I think that cleans the Nets out almost

by muwu on Dec 12, 2011 8:25 AM EST up reply actions  

dwight and deron love marrow so i dont know about him and farmar sure why not

and i really have a good feeling about james he is really killing it for me in 2k12 he rebounds and hit 3s all dayy lol

by alboboy on Dec 12, 2011 8:30 AM EST up reply actions  

I'll take Arenas

if he comes very, very cheap and behaves himself. I really don’t like people who think that guns are something to be played with, he should have been banned from the league imo.

by MrDollarBills on Dec 12, 2011 8:27 AM EST reply actions  

Arenas is a non issue IMO.

He will carry the towels for I care. I think this is all to show that we are a player for D12’s services.

As far as spending on him. He got paid already. He aint gettin a dime over the MIN.

So YES I will have him as ball-boy if needed.

by d2d on Dec 12, 2011 8:29 AM EST up reply actions  

Exactly.

Since he is tied to Howard, no reason to think about him.

by jerry25 on Dec 12, 2011 8:31 AM EST up reply actions  

trade farmar for a late first and trade exception

and include it in the dwight deal

Jersey Strong, Brooklyn Ready

by BrettGardnerLF on Dec 12, 2011 8:29 AM EST reply actions  

BK is playing poker right now (with Dan Fagan helping), but he could lose the game with any mistake.

It seems if Nene really wanted to sign with Denver, he would have done it already.
But then Denver can soon up its offer and then WE ALL LOSE if Nene is out of the picture.
Houston could Amnesty TWill and have enough to match our offer for Nene.

The clock may run out as soon as Houston/Denver are ready.

by jerry25 on Dec 12, 2011 8:30 AM EST reply actions  

Houston won't have enough money yet...

That’s why we need the Lakers trade. I think today is the deadline. Billy King obviously wants Dwight but the clock is ticking. Today is Media Day in Orlando and Saturday is the first presseason game. I don’t think he can hang out for too much longer.

The Grizzles have until Tuesday (I think) to match Gasol right? That’s the deadline.

PS is Affalo stil available or is he gone?

by Ccrules2791 on Dec 12, 2011 8:32 AM EST up reply actions  

Just like we thought the Knicks didn't have enough money for Chandler!!

Amnesty and making a trade to shed salary are ways Houston can get more money.

However, that essentially would be costing Houston more to get Nene.

Houston wants a true Center though.
Nene wants to be mostly a PF.
Nene should want to play with DWill.

Houston may be acceptable with Dalembert.

by jerry25 on Dec 12, 2011 8:35 AM EST up reply actions  

at this point imo its howard or bust

if we dont get howard we might as well call up okc and see if they w ant deron

Jersey Strong, Brooklyn Ready

by BrettGardnerLF on Dec 12, 2011 8:33 AM EST reply actions  

Jerry, how long do you think we've got?

I thought the weekend was clearly a time out—but with Orlando imploding, Nene waiting and Denver ready to swoop in as they lose FAs the time for a decision is clearly coming right?

by Ccrules2791 on Dec 12, 2011 8:35 AM EST up reply actions  

Just did as well haha...

And yeah. I think once Gasol goes down, Houston intensifies after Nene and may try and do a S & T with Houston. It’s definitely possible.

So I really think we need to get something done by tomorrow at most. Those qualifying offers are really our last line of defense.

by Ccrules2791 on Dec 12, 2011 8:40 AM EST up reply actions  

just tweeted him

AngeloM316 Angelos Mihalitsiano
@bkdefend know netfans would b ecstatic w/dwight, happy w/nene/&few more additions….furious 2 lose out on all..#dontwait2long
5 seconds ago Favorite Reply Delete

Section15 Row 12 Seats 1&2

by Angelo Mihalitsianos on Dec 12, 2011 8:41 AM EST up reply actions  

My tweet... (I wonder if he reads these)
CBC727
@bkdefend #netsnation would be happy with a Nene and Lopez frontline too, just don’t miss out on everyone plz #goodluck #thanksforhardwork

by Ccrules2791 on Dec 12, 2011 8:43 AM EST up reply actions  

I gotta go now for a couple of hours.

Spread the word.
Its about all we can do is to reassure BK (who doesn’t get many tweets to read – in comparison to HUMP!).

by jerry25 on Dec 12, 2011 8:45 AM EST up reply actions  

don't give him the sense that we as fans are ready to throw in the towel

I love the Nets...too bad they don't love me...

by BEB on Dec 12, 2011 8:53 AM EST via iPhone app up reply actions  

its obvious

BK and Fegan are pushing Otis to make a move. Otis has no leverage. The Magic could lose out on Lopez or any other free agent Fegan represents

by DJ HeavyDuty on Dec 12, 2011 8:36 AM EST reply actions  

Otis can be a JERK and delay, even if in the end he gets less.

Dwight can’t force Otis to trade him before Jan 1 and we can’t wait more than a couple of days.

It should be clear that ORL front office is messed up. Just look at the dysfunction over claiming that Proky was in Miami? They still haven’t taken back that charge.

by jerry25 on Dec 12, 2011 8:40 AM EST up reply actions  

Today is Orlando Magic Media Day...should be interesting lol

And “Days of our Lives” Continues…Season 1 was the Melodrama, Season 2’s plot is the Dwightmare

by ItsAllNets on Dec 12, 2011 8:42 AM EST reply actions  

I'd rather have the Nets involved in major transactions than sitting on the sidelines

It’s a lot more fun and interesting. Helps the Nets get their name out there too.

by ZR on Dec 12, 2011 8:52 AM EST up reply actions  

He can't force ORL to trade Howard.

Lets say BK says to Fegan – “I give up, I want Nene right now”.
Are you sure that Fegan would get Nene to sign with Nets at that instant?

In the meantime we will be losing FAs like Hump and AK47.

Manybe even RJ.

by jerry25 on Dec 12, 2011 8:51 AM EST up reply actions  

In Free Agency,

Not on us. He clearly wants to be here. But if Otis won’t take a deal what can we do??

by Ccrules2791 on Dec 12, 2011 8:45 AM EST up reply actions  

I think that D12 is a man of his word, unlike many ....

That being said, it all seems like D12 gave some assurance to the NETS that he’s coming regardless if it’s trade/FA.

BK is playing this like he’s freaking MJ of GM’s. (no proof for above …just a feeling)

by d2d on Dec 12, 2011 8:47 AM EST up reply actions  

If he's traded robins of those teams, it's probably a sign and trade with Orlando

Which means we get Dwight

I love the Nets...too bad they don't love me...

by BEB on Dec 12, 2011 8:51 AM EST via iPhone app up reply actions  

+ to one

Stupid autocorrect

I love the Nets...too bad they don't love me...

by BEB on Dec 12, 2011 8:52 AM EST via iPhone app up reply actions  

Question..

Can Arenas double dip? Or does everything he make in his new contract get deducted from his old contract? (What he GETS PAID, not what counts against the cap)

by KingofDenial on Dec 12, 2011 8:49 AM EST reply actions  

The dude got his money, guaranteed.

He’s a free agent now, and can do whatever he wants. He can go and work for MickeD’s or get a job like a ball-boy for Nets if he wants.

by d2d on Dec 12, 2011 8:50 AM EST up reply actions  

If Arenas clears waivers, it's a brand new contract, AND he's still getting paid his old contract

If you get picked up while you haven’t cleared waivers, it’s not a new contract

by muwu on Dec 12, 2011 8:55 AM EST up reply actions  

he did clear waivers

I love the Nets...too bad they don't love me...

by BEB on Dec 12, 2011 8:57 AM EST via iPhone app up reply actions  

Does anyone know if RJ would clear waivers? Do we really understand the waiver process?

If someone bids for RJ (say 4 million x 3 yrs ) is that all we are committed to paying?
Why wouldn’t some team bid for him?
When does the bidding begin/end?

by jerry25 on Dec 12, 2011 8:54 AM EST reply actions  

Only teams with cap space can place a private bidding on amnestied player...if he isn't bidded on then he clears and hits waivers where anyone can out right sign him

Financial point of view if he is bidded on after amnesty he can only earn the amount he was owed on his contract..so if we got him for 3 million and his contract was 12 million..then we give him 3 and spurs would pay him 9…

But if he clears bids and hits waivers then he double dips…spurs give him 12 million plus whatever his new contract is from his new team….

i don’t think he clears waivers…hes not that bad.

by ItsAllNets on Dec 12, 2011 8:56 AM EST up reply actions  

That is what I thought.

But if true, it makes no sense that no one bid 2 million for Arenas.

I don’t know if 4 million would get RJ.
They would have to pay him for all 3 years of the contract, which some teams wouldn’t want.

by jerry25 on Dec 12, 2011 9:08 AM EST up reply actions  

I think it works like baseball..

You are amnestied, then you hit waivers, where teams can pick you up for a few days. If not, you “clear” waivers and the old team pays the old contract you get a new one. Teams have advantages during the “waivers” periods which usually means if a player is really good, a team can get them before any other team.

by Ccrules2791 on Dec 12, 2011 8:56 AM EST up reply actions  

if Arenas ends up

a Net,
i wouldn’t want him within an acre of Marshon…
corrupting his mind and whatnot with stupid
gunplay and malarchy

wolves never rest

by pope of lofe on Dec 12, 2011 8:57 AM EST reply actions  

I like the idea of picking up Gilbert

He can back up 2 positions, which is important for injuries, as well as giving Marshon time to come along.

PLUS, if we get a 29 year old Gilbert Arenas at the vet minimum, and he shows a fraction of what he once was… that is an incredible trade chip to either get a good player, or rid ourselves of contracts like Petro or dare I say, Turkoglu!

by KingofDenial on Dec 12, 2011 8:59 AM EST reply actions  

You know what .... I know everyone is trashing Turk, but in a good system he can come up big

He’s a nightmare matchup with good 3pt stroke. D-Will can make him better. Remember KIDD.

Don’t be surprised if he plays a key role in our success ….just sayin

by d2d on Dec 12, 2011 9:02 AM EST up reply actions  

Bondy
The season starts in two weeks and right now Nets lineup would likely be D-Will, Morrow, Damion James, Brook Lopez, Johan Petro

by ItsAllNets on Dec 12, 2011 9:00 AM EST reply actions  

THAT IS NOT GOOD

or Funny. Sign Nene or trade for Dwight. Today!

by Ccrules2791 on Dec 12, 2011 9:02 AM EST up reply actions  

Petro and James lmao

Oh dear god

Feels good to be back

by Shameer1016 on Dec 12, 2011 9:02 AM EST up reply actions  

someone asked the other day about TIPS on twitter.

Don’t post garbage like that ….non-worthy nothing

by d2d on Dec 12, 2011 9:03 AM EST up reply actions  

oh god

i hate bondy

Otis Smith needs to get his head out of his rear end

by MrDollarBills on Dec 12, 2011 10:01 AM EST up reply actions  

What do you think?

How long will it take until a trade for D12 is finally done?

by -Seiti- on Dec 12, 2011 9:03 AM EST reply actions  

For us to get him, it'll have to get done in the next 48 hours.

Otherwise, I say we sign Nene and move forward. Not getting either would be crippling b/c I anticipate them trading Dwight at some point, so waiting til the offseason to sign him seems unlikely

by vijay311 on Dec 12, 2011 9:05 AM EST up reply actions  

Shouldn't we go all-in

for Howard? If we don’t get D12, Deron is never going to sign with us just because we have Nene, we would be a mediocre Team in the East and that certainly won’t be enough.
sorry for my bad english, i’m from europe

by -Seiti- on Dec 12, 2011 9:10 AM EST up reply actions  

Pretty perfect English right there

Better than most of the posters we have here honestly

by Kmart6nets on Dec 12, 2011 9:11 AM EST up reply actions  

I am not a fan of the all-in mentality because Otis Smith is an irrational moron.

If we were dealing with a sensible GM (for some reason we can’t), it’d be done by now, but we aren’t, so we need to give ourselves a deadline and move-on to Nene. A team centered around Nene, Brook, and D-Will is pretty good, especially with brooks/morrow on the outside hitting 3s.

by vijay311 on Dec 12, 2011 9:13 AM EST up reply actions  

CBS SPORTS
A deal for Chris Paul to the Clippers has been submitted to the league for approval. bit.ly/sCeB45 Conflicting reports about E.Gordon

First chip down, on to DH12

by ItsAllNets on Dec 12, 2011 9:04 AM EST reply actions  

Wow. Go Clippers.

I’m happy for them. The deal makes sense! League offices are open. Let’s get it done BK.

by Ccrules2791 on Dec 12, 2011 9:04 AM EST up reply actions  

It's completely fair...

and it makes sense. Gives CP3 a new start and a new team.

by Ccrules2791 on Dec 12, 2011 9:06 AM EST up reply actions  

That was a basketball fan comment

REALLY hope this happens. Can you imagine the highlights?? That’s going to be one of the most fun teams to watch in a WHILE.

by Kmart6nets on Dec 12, 2011 9:08 AM EST up reply actions  

This is what the NBA needs

It’s also what it had back in its glory days (e.g. Jordan-Pippen; Stockton-Malone; Drexler-Olajuwon, etc). Forget big 3s. If superstars pair up in big 2s, with a third good complimentary player (e.g. Tyson Chandler level or below), you could have more “super teams.” The NBA should shout to have 8-10 such dynamic pairs rather than 3 or 4 big 3s. The NBA needs to get to a point where there’s at least 4 teams per conference that you could think has at least a chance to win it all in any given season.

As of now, we’re looking at:
Kobe-Gasol
Melo-Amare
CP3-Griffin
Durant-Westbrook
James-Wade-Bosh (overkill)
DWill-D12 (hopefully)

Then you have a few starless (or declining stars) but deep Detroit style teams
Rondo-Pierce-Allen-KG
Gay-ZBo-Gasol
Duncan-Ginobli-Parker

by TheNetsFan on Dec 12, 2011 10:07 AM EST up reply actions  

agreed

you forgot the team that just won it all though

by sheepareevil on Dec 12, 2011 1:03 PM EST up reply actions  

& Chicago

Both in the deep team category rather than the 2 star category.

by TheNetsFan on Dec 12, 2011 1:38 PM EST up reply actions  

this deal HAS to get done today

I can’t seen Paul starting the year in NO.

I love the Nets...too bad they don't love me...

by BEB on Dec 12, 2011 9:06 AM EST via iPhone app up reply actions  

Wow

Cp3+blake, can i say conference finals contenders at the minumum?

by BkNetsfan on Dec 12, 2011 9:06 AM EST up reply actions  

the power is shifting in LA

thanks to Stern.

Now, he has to help the next president of Russia

"It's as sweet as it ever was, I'll tell you. Now, hopefully, we started something and we can win some more championships, but we're going to enjoy this one right now. Have a little champagne." --Julius Erving, May 12, 1976, ABA champion Nets locker room.

by Net Income on Dec 12, 2011 9:07 AM EST up reply actions  

It looked like Otis smith was waiting for the NBA to bail him out

But perhaps the league finally realizes the value in having TWO contenders in the two largest sports/media outlets in the country

by Chakroot on Dec 12, 2011 9:09 AM EST up reply actions  

At what cost?

They’ll have no front line left. We’ll see though this could force the issue. I’m hoping BK gets it done today.

by Ccrules2791 on Dec 12, 2011 9:08 AM EST up reply actions  

How?

what assets do they have left?

Bynum or Gasol, not both. Just sent Odom to Dallas, along with their 2012 pick.

"It's as sweet as it ever was, I'll tell you. Now, hopefully, we started something and we can win some more championships, but we're going to enjoy this one right now. Have a little champagne." --Julius Erving, May 12, 1976, ABA champion Nets locker room.

by Net Income on Dec 12, 2011 9:13 AM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, I have felt that way, but have also teams like NYK and Mavs get what they want by any means necessary...(3 or 4 team trade)

don’t get me wrong though i got total faith in BK and his trade making ability. Also, have been optimistic about landing DH12 from the start

by ItsAllNets on Dec 12, 2011 9:19 AM EST up reply actions  

wait...

I thought they received a 1st rounder from Dallas? LA sent THEIR 2012 pick to Dallas…how? They traded their 1st rounder last year to NJ, can’t trade own 1st rounder two years in a row.

by BKNfastbreak on Dec 12, 2011 9:51 AM EST up reply actions  

Book it, Eric Gordon will remain a clipper

If Broussard says he’s in the deal, he’s not

by muwu on Dec 12, 2011 9:18 AM EST up reply actions  

d12 trade wont happen anytime soon

otis still does not want to trade d12 and it might take longer!

by devinharris34 on Dec 12, 2011 9:08 AM EST reply actions  

I have a gut feeling that Orlando is going the Denver route...

They will wait until the last possible moment before trading Howard.

They will hope somehow Howard will change his mind and decide to stay with the Magic and if not, they will then assess the trade situation a few months from now.

The question now is what should the Nets do ?

by M I K E on Dec 12, 2011 9:09 AM EST reply actions  

It aint happening man. This will be going down soon. ORL knows that. Nets know that.

BK is just trying to put the last whistles and bells around that gift for OTIS.

by d2d on Dec 12, 2011 9:10 AM EST up reply actions  

NEW tHREAD

"It's never out of reach when you got the queen on the board, and thats Andy Reid" - Mike Vick
ONE GAME AT A TIME

by eagles4321 on Dec 12, 2011 9:10 AM EST reply actions  

Another person we may miss out on...
johnschuhmann John Schuhmann
RT @MrMichaelLee: Source said Josh Howard has received an offer from San Antonio. JH could meet with Utah this week. #wizards remain in play

by Ccrules2791 on Dec 12, 2011 9:10 AM EST reply actions  

Billy needs to take the "owners' route"

Okay Otis, here’s the deal. We want Dwight and Dwight wants us. If you don’t trade him before losing his bird rights, then YOU LOSE a first round pick. This deal will continue to get worse, NOT BETTER, the longer you drag out this process.

by Chakroot on Dec 12, 2011 9:11 AM EST reply actions  

Billy is at the craps table

and he has pushed all his chips into the middle of the table.

"It's as sweet as it ever was, I'll tell you. Now, hopefully, we started something and we can win some more championships, but we're going to enjoy this one right now. Have a little champagne." --Julius Erving, May 12, 1976, ABA champion Nets locker room.

by Net Income on Dec 12, 2011 9:13 AM EST reply actions  

You do that in poker, not craps.

Not sure what “All In” would be for craps.

by tategeorge on Dec 12, 2011 9:15 AM EST up reply actions  

lulz at ni's expense

I love the Nets...too bad they don't love me...

by BEB on Dec 12, 2011 9:29 AM EST via iPhone app up reply actions  

Billy is at the slots machine

And he’s hoping he can beat the spread

Section 18, Row 7 at The Rock!
"Your 2010-2011 New Jersey Nets - It Is What It Is"

by eLonepb on Dec 12, 2011 9:26 AM EST up reply actions  

You can absolutely bet everything you have on one dice roll

Now… Whether or not that’s a good idea, that’s a whole other story.

“ahhhh jeez Gill, why’d you have the bet the company pay roll?!?”

by Chakroot on Dec 12, 2011 9:27 AM EST up reply actions  

Love the CRAPS reference; favorite game in the world!!!

“All in” in craps is putting all your money on the table and going full tilt.

I prefer betting $160 across all place numbers. $20 on the hardways and a $5 horn high yo.

As long as the dreaded “7” doesn’t come out, you make $$$ on every single roll.

J-Kidd to D-Will

by femdig on Dec 12, 2011 9:27 AM EST up reply actions  

+1

Shakedaddy

by Thebrotherz on Dec 12, 2011 10:38 AM EST via iPhone app up reply actions  

No wonder he has arenas on his side now and he's gambling

The realist keepin it real amongst the surrealists

I was in Baghdad before these little B.G.'s was in they daddy-bags.

by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Dec 12, 2011 3:26 PM EST up reply actions  

He deserves it, but crazy big deal all the same
Bulls GM Gar Forman said the formality of Rose’s five-year, $94 million extension is being finalized with Rose’s agents. Via Chicago Tribune

by muwu on Dec 12, 2011 9:17 AM EST reply actions  

paid. yet underpaid.

DWill oop to D12
Otis Smith makes Travis Outlaw look like Avery Johnson

by 3ptChucker on Dec 12, 2011 12:44 PM EST up reply actions  

We need to be Patient

Were basically playing russian roulette right now and its the first to blink loses. We cant give up on Dwight Howard we need to keep pushing for the trade.

I hope we dont just give up and look to sign Nene. We are on the cusp of signing a major star. Fingers crossed it happens soon but we just need to be patient.

I can’t stop watching video highlights of Howard/Williams and just the thought of those two pairing up makes me giddy with excitment.

by N.Ireland Nets Fan on Dec 12, 2011 9:20 AM EST reply actions  

See my below post...

I do agree with you. But how long do we let Otis mess with us? What if he just won’t trade Howard.

by Ccrules2791 on Dec 12, 2011 9:22 AM EST up reply actions  

Russian Roulette?

I love the Nets...too bad they don't love me...

by BEB on Dec 12, 2011 9:37 AM EST up reply actions  

I just want a Nets Press Conference that doesn't involve our big pickup being Johan Petro

Honestly guys,

This offseason has been a fail so far… and I understand what we’re doing. But we’re treading on very dangerous waters. I think we’re at the cusp of losing Nene in the next two days if we don’t act, having Johan Petro as our starting center.

1. We didn’t sign anyone to improve our PF position—let alone have a starting PF
2. We still have Outlaw
3. We still are below the Cap Minimum
4. Deron still can’t be convinced without any new additions

Dangerous game here.

by Ccrules2791 on Dec 12, 2011 9:21 AM EST reply actions  

Unlike us, Proky does NOT panic. This gets contagious through the GM and all.

Things to keep in mind.
1. Brooklyn will be bigger than any ONE player.
2. Deron knows that, and that is why he’s calm.
3. Funny thing is that D12 knows it too, and he may have committed to come regardless in what way
4. The mere fact that nothing has happened, BK knows what’s up.
5. Back to point 1. we’re in good hands ….What can Proky do for you

by d2d on Dec 12, 2011 9:26 AM EST up reply actions  

berman
Agent Miller trying to broker 3-team sign&trade to bring Crawford to #Knicks as club also eyes Barea with $2.5M offer. nyp.st/torF61

small news constantly breaking…lets see what happens at the orlando noon presser…DH12 goodbye speech lol

by ItsAllNets on Dec 12, 2011 9:21 AM EST reply actions  

Otis is the last person we should trust

I’m really scared if our future is in his hands.

by Andres B on Dec 12, 2011 9:22 AM EST reply actions  

Luckily, our future is in Billy King's hands...

He needs to have a good read. I think that media day is going to be a disaster for the Magic and then is probably the time to strike.

by Ccrules2791 on Dec 12, 2011 9:24 AM EST up reply actions  

Our future is in Dwight's hands

If he truly wants to build “his own legacy” and be a Net, he will be. Simple as that.

Section 18, Row 7 at The Rock!
"Your 2010-2011 New Jersey Nets - It Is What It Is"

by eLonepb on Dec 12, 2011 9:27 AM EST up reply actions  

I trust Billy King

There must be things we just dont know about the whole Howard deal. King must be getting positive feedback from Smith or he wouldn’t just hang around. With Howard being ready to sign for the Nets and him needing to be traded prior to the new year a deal has to be made soon.

Theres no way this goes past the new year. A trade is bound to happen at some time this week. Im nervous as well but at the same time all the info seems to point to a Nets trade.

But like you said I dont trust Smith, he’s a complete ejit but King knows the score.

#InBillyKingWeTrust

by N.Ireland Nets Fan on Dec 12, 2011 9:27 AM EST up reply actions  

I think it goes like this

The #2 player in the entire league has demanded a trade, and wants to be traded to YOUR team. You have the opportunity now to talk with his agent and clarify that it’s real, and possibly acquire what would guarantee championship contenders for the next 5 years.

I mean it’s really a no brainer. If you have a chance to get Dwight, and HE WANTS YOU TOO, you do it.

Screw Nene, screw Orlando, screw everybody.

Acquire Dwight. Profit.

Section 18, Row 7 at The Rock!
"Your 2010-2011 New Jersey Nets - It Is What It Is"

by eLonepb on Dec 12, 2011 9:34 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

+1

Totally 10000% agree. Id rather swing and miss than drop out of the race, all in.

by N.Ireland Nets Fan on Dec 12, 2011 9:37 AM EST up reply actions  

Hope for the best

Thats what we can do now, i have faith in billy. If he knows we don’t have a chance, he’ll sign Nene at the very least im sure of it.. Fegan, Nene and Billy wouldn’t be so quiet unless they have something up their sleeves though otis can screw this up for us…. But still, i trust billy and our FO, lets go NETS!

by BkNetsfan on Dec 12, 2011 9:28 AM EST up reply actions  

Sherdian on Clippers deal (I think he's wrong)
sheridanhoops Chris Sheridan
The Clippers are now contenders for C.Paul with an offer than is infinitely worse that what NO had on table last week: bit.ly/rWHCCk

by Ccrules2791 on Dec 12, 2011 9:29 AM EST reply actions  

I think he's wrong too

Section 18, Row 7 at The Rock!
"Your 2010-2011 New Jersey Nets - It Is What It Is"

by eLonepb on Dec 12, 2011 9:32 AM EST up reply actions  

"infinitely worse" is a terrible way to describe it

Even if you do not agree it is marginally worse at best.

by tategeorge on Dec 12, 2011 9:40 AM EST up reply actions  

Sheridan is an idiot

That deal is perfect for New Orleans, they get young players, cap room, and with Minnesota’s pick they could possibly land a FRANCHISE PLAYER in this year’s draft

It figures that a buffoon like CS would try to sit here and brag about how Odom/Scola/Martin/Knicks worthless pick is a solid deal for a team that needs to be sold and rebuilt from scratch.

If you’re on the cusp of being a contender, then yes you take back Scola/Martin. If you’re on frickin life support, you’d want to clean house and start fresh, as any new owner would want to do.

With the Minny pick and their own, NO could rebuild very fast imo

by MrDollarBills on Dec 12, 2011 10:43 AM EST up reply actions  

Agreed 100%

This is a much better deal for them. Are they better right away than the deal they would’ve received? No, but they could be much better down the road.

by ZR on Dec 12, 2011 10:58 AM EST up reply actions  

Bull 100% better.

Clap clogging player on the decline or great picks and great young players while saving money, please.

"Next year, with a full training camp, I think he can go after that Scott Skiles' record of 30." - Billy King

by shea23 on Dec 12, 2011 11:24 AM EST up reply actions  

orlando beat Steve Kerr of @NBAonTNT sorts out Dwight Howard trade scenarios for the @OrlandoSentinel: ht.ly/7WtKH

by ItsAllNets on Dec 12, 2011 9:36 AM EST reply actions  

Kerr: Chicago has desirable assets

News to me

I love the Nets...too bad they don't love me...

by BEB on Dec 12, 2011 9:39 AM EST up reply actions  

It is?

Their only assets are Aski (nothing special) and the Bobcats’ pick.

by Dopeness on Dec 12, 2011 9:41 AM EST up reply actions  

Paul trade makes me worry lakers will panic and go for Howard

They will be afraid of losing the city to Blake/Paul for the next 10 years

by orangeeater on Dec 12, 2011 9:38 AM EST reply actions  

In Billy we trust...

Lakers would be just Howard and Kobe so it is possible Howard crosses Lakers of his list.

by rundmc00 on Dec 12, 2011 9:39 AM EST up reply actions  

and who would we be?

dwill/howard…..so what makes us that much better than kobe/howard

Section15 Row 12 Seats 1&2

by Angelo Mihalitsianos on Dec 12, 2011 9:40 AM EST up reply actions  

well we are actually

DWill is a PG which Howard wants
and Kobe is on the downside of his career

by orangeeater on Dec 12, 2011 9:41 AM EST up reply actions  

Exactly...Kobe is 34

And they will have no cap space for years.

by rundmc00 on Dec 12, 2011 9:42 AM EST up reply actions  

agree with the kobe age thing

but capspace somehow never is a problem for them!!!! they always find a way

Section15 Row 12 Seats 1&2

by Angelo Mihalitsianos on Dec 12, 2011 9:43 AM EST up reply actions  

We have other young role players...

Lakers have bloated vet contracts.

The Shaq thing also seems to matter to Howard.

Lakers are definitely not 1A at this point.

by rundmc00 on Dec 12, 2011 9:42 AM EST up reply actions  

you have a good point there. BSPN would even agree with you there. Even if Dwight goes to La with just Kobe…Kobe is still the number 1 guy for the time being- and once Kobe isnt the number 1 guy…he’s probably declined to the point of no return..so why would Dwight join an aging superstar…when he could play with a guy in his prime with a good 10-12 years left…( d-wills only 27!). J-kidd is in his late 30s and he was still crucial to the Mavs championship run. So if Dwight is truly thinking long term… his window with LAL is roughly 3-4 years…with BKLYN its potentially 10-12 years…No brainer.

by lezosamis on Dec 12, 2011 9:46 AM EST up reply actions  

So..

Lets say the Nets offer Pau and maybe draft picks or something
Mavs offer some shooters and picks, hedo’s contract
Nets offer lopez, picks, and hedo’s contract

It comes down to championship opportunity…
Who does dwight choose? im scared

by Keysta101 on Dec 12, 2011 9:41 AM EST reply actions  

um kerr has a point

lakers give gasol and bynum, orlando sends dwight and couple first round picks, and then otis gets to ‘not rebuild’ and ‘compete now’…

by syc514 on Dec 12, 2011 9:41 AM EST reply actions  

why not?

trade dwight for a starting frontcourt and you get to still try to make the playoffs in the east

by syc514 on Dec 12, 2011 9:44 AM EST up reply actions  

You're not winning anything without a superstar

Yeah you’d still get a playoff appearance or so, but you’re never winning a championship

by muwu on Dec 12, 2011 9:46 AM EST up reply actions  

Sorry, but shoehorning in Gasol and Bynum (who'll be on the bench anyway)

doesn’t make them competitive when theIR lineup includes Nelson, J-Rich, and Larry Hughes.

At beast they’ll be an 8th seed. AT BEST.

You saw that team last year against the Hawks. They were only it because Dwight was scoring like 50 per night.

by Anthony Perez on Dec 12, 2011 10:44 AM EST up reply actions  

That whole compete now philosophy is so dumb

If you trade Dwight Howard, it’s important to start from scratch rather than bring in bloated contracts and players who can’t stay healthy.

Given how pissed Kobe is about Lamar being dumped, I don’t think he’s going to the Lakers. They can’t upset their superstar.

by ZR on Dec 12, 2011 11:01 AM EST up reply actions  

WojYahooNBA Adrian Wojnarowski
Eric Gordon isn’t included in a revised Clippers-New Orleans deal for Chris Paul, league source tells Y! Sports.

by Bignetfaan on Dec 12, 2011 9:46 AM EST reply actions  

Knew it

Broussard said he was, so the opposite must be true.

Let us anoint this, the Law of Broussard

by muwu on Dec 12, 2011 9:47 AM EST up reply actions  

Espn

Is reporting Gordon is involved and Bledsoe is not. Idk Wat to believe

by NetsVC15 on Dec 12, 2011 9:49 AM EST up reply actions  

Apply The Law of Broussard

Broussard tweeted earlier that Eric Gordon is involved. Therefore, Eric Gordon must not be involved

by muwu on Dec 12, 2011 9:52 AM EST up reply actions  

Bledsoe can’t be in the deal, he’s out 6-8 weeks. I believe you cannot trade an injured player

by JimmyLips on Dec 12, 2011 11:09 AM EST via iPhone app up reply actions  

I don't see what makes it gigantically bad

You’re getting an expiring, you’re getting two young players with plenty of potential, you’re getting a high draft pick. Standard rebuilding package

by muwu on Dec 12, 2011 9:54 AM EST up reply actions  

Best case scenario

Dwill/arena/Gaines
Morrow/brooks
Jhoward/?
Nene/jwill/Evans
Howard/Swilliams

Championship?

by NetsVC15 on Dec 12, 2011 9:46 AM EST reply actions  

If Hornets don't get Gordon, Clippers have a team

WojYahooNBA Adrian Wojnarowski
Eric Gordon isn’t included in a revised Clippers-New Orleans deal for Chris Paul, league source tells Y! Sports.

Feels good to be back

by Shameer1016 on Dec 12, 2011 9:50 AM EST reply actions  

If Hornets don't get Gordon, Clippers have a team

WojYahooNBA Adrian Wojnarowski
Eric Gordon isn’t included in a revised Clippers-New Orleans deal for Chris Paul, league source tells Y! Sports.

Feels good to be back

by Shameer1016 on Dec 12, 2011 9:51 AM EST reply actions  

And a bench

With Craig smith randy foy mo Williams Ryan Gomes Ike diogu

by NetsVC15 on Dec 12, 2011 9:52 AM EST reply actions  

IMO

I don’t think the CP3 goes down without D12 being resolved. For some strange reason DStern will make sure that D12 is Brooklyn bound.

by d2d on Dec 12, 2011 9:52 AM EST reply actions  

Posted in other thread, but I'll ask here

When was the last time Billy King spoke to the media or was seen in public?

by vijay311 on Dec 12, 2011 10:02 AM EST reply actions  

What is the trade value of Morrow to a third team?

That’s our other trade chip outside of Brooks, picks and cap space. A shame to lose Morrow but if trading him gets it done, I’d do it anytime. The Magic already have Redick so it has to be to a third team that can send something of interest to Orlando.

by stenpoint on Dec 12, 2011 10:03 AM EST reply actions  

"Brook, Brooks, Brooklyn, The Brazillian and Capt. Deron!"

Just wanted to say good morning and, once again, remind y’all sleepless warriors of the disease that is DwightFright.

by Jron on Dec 12, 2011 10:04 AM EST reply actions  

New Thread

Refresh Netsdaily.

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ONE GAME AT A TIME

by eagles4321 on Dec 12, 2011 10:05 AM EST reply actions  

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