Bottom Line: Players Want Power
by Net Income on Dec 12, 2011 7:40 AM EST
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PrintIt's all about power, or if you want, influence. Deron Williams has it. Dwight Howard wants it. And both feel they can get it with the Nets. It may or may not be the aftertaste of a bitter lockout, but in comments Sunday, Williams characterized David Stern as a "bully" for nixing the Chris Paul trade and Howard criticized Otis Smith for not listening to him on personnel matters.
The influence is going to manifest itself in a number of ways. There's more news this morning, for example, that the Nets are interested in Gilbert Arenas. Williams has reportedly inquired about him. The Magic dumped him against Howard's wishes
And while Smith has said he'll check with the NBA's 29 other teams about a trade, Howard is making it plain that he won't sign an extension with anyone other than his No. 1 or No. 1A choices, the Nets and Lakers. That will limit teams' interest in sending valued assets Orlando's way.
- Dwight Howard, who wants to be traded to the Nets, feels Magic management doesn’t respect him - Fred Kerber - New York Post
- Deron rips into NBA’s Stern - Fred Kerber - New York Post
- Deron Williams calls NBA commissioner David Stern a 'bully' over nixed Chris Paul trade to Lakers - Stefan Bondy - New York Daily News
- Nets' Deron Williams: David Stern is a bully - Andy Vasquez - The Record
- As Nets pursue Dwight Howard, Deron Williams stays in contact with Orlando Magic star - Colin Stephenson - Star-Ledger
- Agent Zero could be a Net? - Mike Mazzeo - ESPN New York
- Dwight Howard says Magic didn t follow through on his suggestions (Video) - Orlando Sentinel
- NBA insider Steve Kerr sorts out Dwight Howard trade scenarios - Josh Robbins - Orlando Sentinel
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This is all good for us
Need some D-12
by Mike Viola on Dec 12, 2011 7:26 AM EST via mobile reply actions
What's your gut feeling, NI?
Does a trade happen soon – within days or even hours?
Or is Otis serious? Will he wait this thing out, really causing his own franchise a full-blown Dwightmare?
Are the Bulls even a real contender? Which other teams could the Nets include in a three-team trade for Dwight that gives the Magic more than Brook and our two future first rounders?
So. Many. Questions.
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I'll step in
I think it’s done today.
by Zartan on Dec 12, 2011 7:29 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
I hope so
I’m just figuring that BK wasn’t kidding when he said he’s keeping his cards close to his chest this time around – that the only people who really know his next move are he and the Prokmaster General.
I’m hoping, therefore, that he’s on the precipise of another D-Will trade-like, Ninja blockbuster – one that nobody will see coming. I think, and this isn’t based on a hell of a lot, that our proposed deal would include a third team – one capable of giving the Magic another strong piece. What they would get back? God, I don’t know.
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You have other top dogg franchises
Trying more so to keep us out of the loop than anything .
Lakers are really smart but it’s gonna be hard to land Paul (no Paul no DH). ESPN is reporting that Paul wouldn’t mind the clippers and if they give up what their asking for, think its a good deal.
by Zartan on Dec 12, 2011 7:41 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
25 GMs in this league would trade him now for the proper rebuilding package (Nets).
I believe Otis Smith is not among those 25.
I think it's fine.
by NetsMets4Life on Dec 12, 2011 7:32 AM EST up reply actions
I have a 9 hour time difference so I a wake up to NetsDaily
And my gut feeling says I will wake up in the next 48 hours to a headline that NI has carved up saying : Dwight Howard Is a Net.
When can i get my Dwight Howard Brooklyn Nets Jersey?
by AmbassadorAmeer on Dec 12, 2011 7:50 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
It will be soon
The Magic are not going to want their season to be a total circus
the one time I feel ok quoting incarceratedbob
"@incarceratedbob: BREAKING NBA NEWSSource: JAY-Z #Nets told close associates that Dwight Howard deal with Magic will be finalized next 72Hrs #StandUpBK"
by JimmyLips on Dec 12, 2011 11:14 AM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
Hopefully they don't want Arenas to make more than the vet minimum
Guy is trash. There’s a reason why teams don’t listen to their players for personnel suggestions… the players usually suck at it.
While I agree with you, J
It’s worth signing Gilly if it helps us land Dwight. Both those guys know that, in his current state, Arenas won’t command more than, say, a two-year $6-7m deal.
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if dwight wants to create his team
Maybe he should buy his own franchise
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by Mike28Live on Dec 12, 2011 7:47 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
If Dwight is serious about Gilly being a factor in him deciding his next team...
Or if he really wants him on his next team… Would you, as Billy King, really say no to that?
I don’t like Arenas either – at all. But the reward far outweighs the risk, even if Arenas is a complete piece of Moiso.
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Arenas was a good player
He got a massive contract but he hasn’t always been trash. For a vet min what exactly is the risk?
He has talent (obviously) maybe a fresh start and not having to worry about being a laughing stock due to the insane contract hanging over his head frees up some pressure and lets him get on with the game.
I would sign Arenas in a heart beat for vet min, without a second thought. Gives you even more options and lets you move Farmar on for some assets.
by N.Ireland Nets Fan on Dec 12, 2011 7:59 AM EST up reply actions
^^^ My point
Pretty much, anyway.
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Arenas will complicate things
He will have to get playing time playing alongside Dwill, this takes minutes away from Brooks.
by Zartan on Dec 12, 2011 7:34 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Not as much if he doesnt prove on court
by SunilP on Dec 12, 2011 7:43 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Not as much if he doesnt prove on court
by SunilP on Dec 12, 2011 7:43 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
great locker room influence!!!
"It's as sweet as it ever was, I'll tell you. Now, hopefully, we started something and we can win some more championships, but we're going to enjoy this one right now. Have a little champagne." --Julius Erving, May 12, 1976, ABA champion Nets locker room.
That's the reason I don't want Arenas
The Nets are OK at SG, they don’t really need Gilbert. If he wants the vet minimum and a shot at a roster spot to appease Dwight and Deron, OK. But no guarantees above that.
by ZR on Dec 12, 2011 8:43 AM EST up reply actions
Definitely the minimum if ever
Arenas just got 60 million dollars for nothing.
why do we need g.a if we have
3 pg and a 3 pt specialist/ scorer not to mention deron can play he 2 too ????
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by Mike28Live on Dec 12, 2011 7:33 AM EST via mobile reply actions
Arenas, is a vet min.
That should be fine. LA, is the only threat,
there is always the posturing, they like bynum over brook, but also like brook better for his durability and offense. Gasol offsets this for them, they believe LA eventually gives in.
by SunilP on Dec 12, 2011 7:41 AM EST via mobile reply actions
SO TRUE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Dwight doesn’t like the fact that his desires fall on deaf ears. Which led me to this thought this morning:
Dwight is watching how pissed off Kobe is right now. Why? Because the Lakers front office are doing what they want and not informing him. I watched Kobe on sports center last night. He was so mad at the Odom trade. Kobe has no clue as to what the Lakers front office is doing. And they could care less about what he thinks…
This is exaclty what’s happening to Dwight in Orlando. So why would he want to go to a team that he would experience the same thing? In New Jersey, Deron stratgegizes with the GM. In LA, Kobe is ignored by the GM.
I wonder which scenario entices Dwight…
Excellent point...
I like the way you think.
As for the question above, I believe this drags out into the season and we (hopefully) fall back on Nene because of it.
Why?
That takes away one of our best assets in a possible Howard trade which is our cap space. We need to keep the cap space until Howard is either a Net or a Laker.
You don’t move on when you have a chance to sign one of the best players in basketball. This is Dwight or bust, always has been since we traded for Deron Williams so why lessen our chances by signing Nene now?
We’ve came this far, lets fight till the end and not take the same old Nets attitude. He wants to sign for the Nets so lets make it happen.
Also last note, were one of the reason’s a trade is highly likely to happen. If it wasn’t for us and being able to sign Howard next summer for nothing he wouldn’t have as much leverage and the Magic could call his bluff because he’d be losing millions if he isn’t traded before the new year.
If we keep pushing hard and trying 100% theres a very good chance we get him. Plus we’re showing how badly we want him by chasing him so hard while the lakers choose to pursue CP3. Once they realised it would be hard to get CP3 they moved onto Dwight Howard.
Lets go Billy King, make it happen!!
by N.Ireland Nets Fan on Dec 12, 2011 7:56 AM EST up reply actions
Obviously Dwight is the #1 choice
I meant that if we strike out on Howard and Nene signs somewhere else, that would be pretty lame. So my (hopefully) was in regards to us signing Nene if we miss out on Dwight.
Yeh sorry
Thought you meant move on and sign Nene now.
I know what your saying but its worth the risk for Howard in my eyes.
by N.Ireland Nets Fan on Dec 12, 2011 8:00 AM EST up reply actions
I'd assume we're in close contact with Nene's agent
And if he’s ready to sign elsewhere we’ll make one last push for Dwight and if it’s a no, we move on to Nene… at least that’s what I’d assume. Who knows.
We definitely are
Nene’s agent is Dwight’s agent.
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Oh I know...
Just took a break from the mayhem this weekend and wanted to voice my opinion at work today :)
Nene
If this drags out and we do sign nene then after 30 days he is tradeable, do you guys think the magic would take him and we could keep brook?
by bustamove22 on Dec 12, 2011 10:26 AM EST up reply actions
wow thats is one great point my friend
lets just hope howard realizes that
Man i sincerely hope we don't end up with Gilbert Arenas
I just don’t like that guy. It would take a lot to convince me otherwise.
Not really good for image, either.
Brook-Brooks-Brookyln
LET'S DO THIS!
I am starting to go back to my old feelings
That i would rather keep Brook, Get Nene, avoid losing 1st rounds and being stuck with Gilbert.
Yeah… That doesn’t sound too bad.
Brook-Brooks-Brookyln
LET'S DO THIS!
Will Arenas be
a combo guard off the bench or a 2guard starting alongside Deron
broussard tweet..
Chris Broussard @Chris_Broussard Close
Nets will attempt to sign Arenas if they able to trade for Dwight Howard, source says
Chris_Broussard Chris Broussard
Nets will attempt to sign Arenas if they able to trade for Dwight Howard, source says
Wrong on a lot of other stuff like the deal happening
Also, if my timeline is still correct, Howard didn’t actually do it until after Broussard reported it
I think technically
He reported that Howard was GOING to ask for a trade here… which was correct. I could be wrong on that though.
he wrote he was going to ask for a trade
then when he went on television, he said it was close and could happen by day’s end which wasn’t anywhere near the truth.
He also was the reporter who most took the Magic line on the secret meeting in Miami.
"It's as sweet as it ever was, I'll tell you. Now, hopefully, we started something and we can win some more championships, but we're going to enjoy this one right now. Have a little champagne." --Julius Erving, May 12, 1976, ABA champion Nets locker room.
I have a feeling that if he agent 0 comes to the nets it will be one fun and exciting team
and arenas is only 29 i hope he could get back to the way he was a few years back
Confession time...
I am the source Chris Broussard keeps referring to.
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by Rusty_b on Dec 12, 2011 7:59 AM EST reply actions 3 recs
I posted this in another thread...
Otis is so pissed that Dwight is leaving Orlando that he is seriously contimplating letting him walk in free agency just to screw him out of millions of dollars. With a sign and trade Dwight can get the 5 year max from Orlando. If he becomes a free agent next summer and signs with a team they can only give him a 4 year deal with less percentage raises annually.
I know Otis sounds like a complete moron but that’s only because we are looking at the situation logically. We know the Nets have the best deal and we know Dwight wants to come here. The smart move would be to trade him to the Nets. Otis didn’t get a high profile job like being General Manager of a professional sports team by being a moron. The guy has something up his sleeve. My take is pride. He has too much pride and doesn’t want to admit failure by trading a player like Dwight Howard to another team.
It’s going to take Otis’s bosses to step in and say get it done, otherwise, Dwight wont get traded and will be a free agent next year. I can see unemployment in the distant future for Otis….
Takes very little intelligence to be an NBA GM
The NBA is a like a little club. As long as you’re inside the circle, you can get places even without knowing anything
I would agree with you
But in this specific situation i think Otis is just arrogant and doesn’t want to admit failure.
Otis could be in trouble
Howard talked about the meeting with the Magic President (i think it was) where they came to an understanding for both the Magic and himself. Maybe Howard was voicing his concern about Otis to him and basically complaining about how bad a gm he is. If you look at the signings he has made, its unreal how he is still in the job and it wouldnt surprise me if the Magic are thinking of firing him right at this time.
Think about it, he obviously decided the Magic were going to try and stay competitive rather than a rebuild. So he tries to sign players to make the magic better in his eyes, so he signs big baby. He then agrees to resign Richardson for a decent amount of money but this is the thing, that deal hasn’t been finalised (or so i read yesterday) even though it was over the weekend an agreement was reached. It might be that deal is on hold while the Magic decide what the heck to do about the situation. Add in all the job cuts in the organisation and does that sound like a team that should be pushing to remain competitive? Sounds like there hitting the restart button. I know im guessing a hell of alot here obviously but I think part of this dragging on is internal problems with the Magic.
The whole phone call and the ceo stepping down etc along with the bad blood with Howard could push the ownership over the edge to replace him. Just was thinking about it there and deciding to go on abit lol sorry for the rant
by N.Ireland Nets Fan on Dec 12, 2011 8:10 AM EST up reply actions
I don't think Alex Martins will let that happen
If Otis wants to play hardball, he’ll lose his job.
by ZR on Dec 12, 2011 8:46 AM EST up reply actions
Fortunately Otis doesn't cut the checks
Ultimately if the Magic ownership wants to get something out of Howard’s departure, they will.
by Anthony Perez on Dec 12, 2011 10:35 AM EST up reply actions
I would definitely sign agent zero for the right price
Could play the 1 or 2. Just don’t let him play cards on the plane.
I just don't see any playing time for Arenas
Not unless BK trades Morrow and or Farmar, which is very likely. Morrow and/or Farmar could be involved in any trade for Dwight. I would thing Morrow more than Farmar.
I'd really like to keep Farmar and Morrow
Two very solid role players. And Morrow is just an absolute elite shooter. I’m sick of losing shooters from this team for nothing (see: Korver, Kyle).
I'd love to keep them both also
But giving up Morrow to get Dwight Howard is something you don’t hesitate about.
if we get howard
Farmer will most likely end up in orl
by brickznujerz on Dec 12, 2011 8:08 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
I'd trade away Farmar easily
Arenas isn’t what he used to be, but he can still be a dangerous sixth man
*a dangerous man
We got metal detectors in Barclays?
I would too
Deron will be getting most of the minutes anyway. It was nice having an elite 2nd string PG but it’s not necessary any more. Trade him for a pick and get Arenas for vet min 1.5mil and call it a day. A little cap relief and a serviceable backup PG. Plus Deron and Dwight would be happy since they both want him.
Wouldn't mind Arenas
I see Farmar being moved at some point before or during the season. Arenas would likely take Farmars role off the bench
by netsdwill on Dec 12, 2011 8:09 AM EST via mobile reply actions
sorry knicks!
daldridgetnt David Aldridge
Source: Timberwolves finalizing four-year deal with J.J. Barea. Check the Hang Time Blog.
Farmar is definately underrated
He is getting better and better as a point guard. I thought he was poor at the start of last season but he surprised me towards the end of the season when Deron was injured and he was the number 1 pg.
His experience in europe seems to have given him more confidence and I think he would be a nice pick up for a team.
by N.Ireland Nets Fan on Dec 12, 2011 8:14 AM EST reply actions
I agree, big Farmar fan
Going to be disappointing if he gets traded, but if it’s in a trade for Howard I’ll get over it pretty quickly!
Amare is an absolute tool
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by Angelo Mihalitsianos on Dec 12, 2011 8:16 AM EST reply actions
#STATcity?
Soon to be #DWIGHTcity my friend
…..i hope :)
by N.Ireland Nets Fan on Dec 12, 2011 8:21 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
someone wants morrow or brooks?
Maybe they’re looking for arenas as SG to replace morrow/brooks?
Jfarm+morrow+brook+marshon+djames could be part of 3/4-team deals.
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NOW, I'm definitely a NETFAN - Go Deron Williams!
Agreed.. And this might drag for amonth
So GMs can evaluate players more.
That being said, we’ll have nene day1
Yet, we’ll land dwight after some time (feb?)
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Bird rights
I am lost.. But I thought that would only apply for orlando?
We’re not re-signing anyone, so thismshouldnt be a big deal for us, no?
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If we trade for Dwight before said date, we obtain his bird rights as well, meaning he can re-sign here for significantly more money.
If we obtain Dwight after said date, we do not obtain his bird rights and he loses out on some good money.
At least that’s how I understand it.
This would make sense
To have nene, hedo and dwight.
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If hes here
Is 5 gonna make big diff vs 4? Esp if you know the owner wants you and is willingly going to renego
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Holy moiso.....NOT MARSHON.....guy has future star oozing from his perspiration
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by Angelo Mihalitsianos on Dec 12, 2011 8:18 AM EST up reply actions
I think I'm in the minority...
But I’d rather include Brooks in the trade than Farmar or Morrow. Farmar and Morrow are proven vets who can obviously do their jobs. Plus honestly if we’re going to be competing for a title, how much time is a rook going to get on the court anyway?
Brooks cant be traded for a month
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Gotcha...
Oh well… Think they’ll take Petro? :P
Remember how avery praised favors?
Thats how he sounded like in the interviews for mbrooks…
This time i hope he meant to keep him not trade him.
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More likely Farmar...
Deron and Dwight both like Morrow, and Brooks can’t be traded til after the Dwight-max-contract deadline, thankfully.
by JohnFromLongIsland on Dec 12, 2011 8:21 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Who would want farmar?
I like him, but he is always overshadowed by stars. It would ge good for him to be traded, esp he wants more responsibilities. Most likely hornets as cp3 is gone (bellineli?) or could it be the heat (james jones?).
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If it makes our offer even slightly better I'd throw in Farmar and Morrow in there, James too
We could always sign Arenas and another SF like AK or Shawne Williams and we still have Gaines to lean on
We really don’t have much else to give
At this point, I'm throwing everything I can in there to avoid letting this slip away
Throwing those 3 guys in there, do we even have any more guys on the roster that we can trade? I think that cleans the Nets out almost
dwight and deron love marrow so i dont know about him and farmar sure why not
and i really have a good feeling about james he is really killing it for me in 2k12 he rebounds and hit 3s all dayy lol
I'll take Arenas
if he comes very, very cheap and behaves himself. I really don’t like people who think that guns are something to be played with, he should have been banned from the league imo.
Arenas is a non issue IMO.
He will carry the towels for I care. I think this is all to show that we are a player for D12’s services.
As far as spending on him. He got paid already. He aint gettin a dime over the MIN.
So YES I will have him as ball-boy if needed.
trade farmar for a late first and trade exception
and include it in the dwight deal
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BK is playing poker right now (with Dan Fagan helping), but he could lose the game with any mistake.
It seems if Nene really wanted to sign with Denver, he would have done it already.
But then Denver can soon up its offer and then WE ALL LOSE if Nene is out of the picture.
Houston could Amnesty TWill and have enough to match our offer for Nene.
The clock may run out as soon as Houston/Denver are ready.
Houston won't have enough money yet...
That’s why we need the Lakers trade. I think today is the deadline. Billy King obviously wants Dwight but the clock is ticking. Today is Media Day in Orlando and Saturday is the first presseason game. I don’t think he can hang out for too much longer.
The Grizzles have until Tuesday (I think) to match Gasol right? That’s the deadline.
PS is Affalo stil available or is he gone?
Just like we thought the Knicks didn't have enough money for Chandler!!
Amnesty and making a trade to shed salary are ways Houston can get more money.
However, that essentially would be costing Houston more to get Nene.
Houston wants a true Center though.
Nene wants to be mostly a PF.
Nene should want to play with DWill.
Houston may be acceptable with Dalembert.
People should let BK know we won't be disappointed in him for only getting Nene and good supporting cast.
BK may believe fans would be upset.
However fans WILL be upset if he gets Neither.
at this point imo its howard or bust
if we dont get howard we might as well call up okc and see if they w ant deron
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Everything restd on BK knowing whether ORL is serious about taking the best offer it can get in the next couple of days ...
before Houston/Denver grab Nene.
Jerry, how long do you think we've got?
I thought the weekend was clearly a time out—but with Orlando imploding, Nene waiting and Denver ready to swoop in as they lose FAs the time for a decision is clearly coming right?
I am SCARED. We should let BK know that we will be happy with him to just get Nene and good supporting cast.
I just did.
Just did as well haha...
And yeah. I think once Gasol goes down, Houston intensifies after Nene and may try and do a S & T with Houston. It’s definitely possible.
So I really think we need to get something done by tomorrow at most. Those qualifying offers are really our last line of defense.
just tweeted him
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@bkdefend know netfans would b ecstatic w/dwight, happy w/nene/&few more additions….furious 2 lose out on all..#dontwait2long
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by Angelo Mihalitsianos on Dec 12, 2011 8:41 AM EST up reply actions
My tweet... (I wonder if he reads these)
CBC727
@bkdefend #netsnation would be happy with a Nene and Lopez frontline too, just don’t miss out on everyone plz #goodluck #thanksforhardwork
I gotta go now for a couple of hours.
Spread the word.
Its about all we can do is to reassure BK (who doesn’t get many tweets to read – in comparison to HUMP!).
I just checked and the 3 of us are the only ones to have tweeted @bkdefend in the last 2 hours!!
People just assume he is too busy, but BK now loves Twitter.
don't give him the sense that we as fans are ready to throw in the towel
I love the Nets...too bad they don't love me...
by BEB on Dec 12, 2011 8:53 AM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
its obvious
BK and Fegan are pushing Otis to make a move. Otis has no leverage. The Magic could lose out on Lopez or any other free agent Fegan represents
Otis can be a JERK and delay, even if in the end he gets less.
Dwight can’t force Otis to trade him before Jan 1 and we can’t wait more than a couple of days.
It should be clear that ORL front office is messed up. Just look at the dysfunction over claiming that Proky was in Miami? They still haven’t taken back that charge.
Has anyone told Billy King when the trade deadline is? Kind of important.
It has to come AFTER the period when FAs can be traded. We might still be able to trade for Howard before the trade deadline, but NetsDaily would be a sad place if we don’t already have Nene.
Today is Orlando Magic Media Day...should be interesting lol
And “Days of our Lives” Continues…Season 1 was the Melodrama, Season 2’s plot is the Dwightmare
I'd rather have the Nets involved in major transactions than sitting on the sidelines
It’s a lot more fun and interesting. Helps the Nets get their name out there too.
by ZR on Dec 12, 2011 8:52 AM EST up reply actions
He can't force ORL to trade Howard.
Lets say BK says to Fegan – “I give up, I want Nene right now”.
Are you sure that Fegan would get Nene to sign with Nets at that instant?
In the meantime we will be losing FAs like Hump and AK47.
Manybe even RJ.
If I'm Billy King I give Orlando until 5 o'clock to accept our offer...
Then let Howard walk.
In Free Agency,
Not on us. He clearly wants to be here. But if Otis won’t take a deal what can we do??
I think that D12 is a man of his word, unlike many ....
That being said, it all seems like D12 gave some assurance to the NETS that he’s coming regardless if it’s trade/FA.
BK is playing this like he’s freaking MJ of GM’s. (no proof for above …just a feeling)
If he's traded robins of those teams, it's probably a sign and trade with Orlando
Which means we get Dwight
I love the Nets...too bad they don't love me...
by BEB on Dec 12, 2011 8:51 AM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
Maybe LA since they lost out CP3?
This offseason is insane
I think Billups would be a good fit in LA
And I also think he’d like to be as close to Denver as possible.
by ZR on Dec 12, 2011 8:53 AM EST up reply actions
I hope he joins us out of spite to the knicks for dumping him
Don’t want arenas at all if we get D12… Just a thought but don’t think that’ll happen though
Question..
Can Arenas double dip? Or does everything he make in his new contract get deducted from his old contract? (What he GETS PAID, not what counts against the cap)
The dude got his money, guaranteed.
He’s a free agent now, and can do whatever he wants. He can go and work for MickeD’s or get a job like a ball-boy for Nets if he wants.
he double dips...since he wasn't bidder on...Magic owe him 62M and then he will make separate contract $ on new team..or us in this case..Lucky man
This is why bill ups is saying he will retire if he is claimed..he wants to double dip too
if he was bidder on after amnesty he wouldn't be able to double dip..the money orlando owed him would had been deducted by his new contract amount
so all he would have gotten is his original contract amount owed…
Funny...
They system kind of benefits the crappier players. Weird huh?
If Arenas clears waivers, it's a brand new contract, AND he's still getting paid his old contract
If you get picked up while you haven’t cleared waivers, it’s not a new contract
he did clear waivers
I love the Nets...too bad they don't love me...
by BEB on Dec 12, 2011 8:57 AM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
Does anyone know if RJ would clear waivers? Do we really understand the waiver process?
If someone bids for RJ (say 4 million x 3 yrs ) is that all we are committed to paying?
Why wouldn’t some team bid for him?
When does the bidding begin/end?
Only teams with cap space can place a private bidding on amnestied player...if he isn't bidded on then he clears and hits waivers where anyone can out right sign him
Financial point of view if he is bidded on after amnesty he can only earn the amount he was owed on his contract..so if we got him for 3 million and his contract was 12 million..then we give him 3 and spurs would pay him 9…
But if he clears bids and hits waivers then he double dips…spurs give him 12 million plus whatever his new contract is from his new team….
i don’t think he clears waivers…hes not that bad.
That is what I thought.
But if true, it makes no sense that no one bid 2 million for Arenas.
I don’t know if 4 million would get RJ.
They would have to pay him for all 3 years of the contract, which some teams wouldn’t want.
I think it works like baseball..
You are amnestied, then you hit waivers, where teams can pick you up for a few days. If not, you “clear” waivers and the old team pays the old contract you get a new one. Teams have advantages during the “waivers” periods which usually means if a player is really good, a team can get them before any other team.
It sounds like this is Ujiri all over again...but this time nothing is leaking OS may keep changing his mind on what he wants back
I am sure BK has already lined up a 3rd team or 4th team in the trade..not good if OS keeps changing his mind..
if Arenas ends up
a Net,
i wouldn’t want him within an acre of Marshon…
corrupting his mind and whatnot with stupid
gunplay and malarchy
wolves never rest
I like the idea of picking up Gilbert
He can back up 2 positions, which is important for injuries, as well as giving Marshon time to come along.
PLUS, if we get a 29 year old Gilbert Arenas at the vet minimum, and he shows a fraction of what he once was… that is an incredible trade chip to either get a good player, or rid ourselves of contracts like Petro or dare I say, Turkoglu!
You know what .... I know everyone is trashing Turk, but in a good system he can come up big
He’s a nightmare matchup with good 3pt stroke. D-Will can make him better. Remember KIDD.
Don’t be surprised if he plays a key role in our success ….just sayin
Bondy
The season starts in two weeks and right now Nets lineup would likely be D-Will, Morrow, Damion James, Brook Lopez, Johan Petro
THAT IS NOT GOOD
or Funny. Sign Nene or trade for Dwight. Today!
that team would make #8 in the east
get somethimg done fast bk its a short season…
by devinharris34 on Dec 12, 2011 9:02 AM EST up reply actions
someone asked the other day about TIPS on twitter.
Don’t post garbage like that ….non-worthy nothing
oh god
i hate bondy
Otis Smith needs to get his head out of his rear end
by MrDollarBills on Dec 12, 2011 10:01 AM EST up reply actions
Other teams are in much worse situations than the Nets
This is just going to be a weird season.
What do you think?
How long will it take until a trade for D12 is finally done?
For us to get him, it'll have to get done in the next 48 hours.
Otherwise, I say we sign Nene and move forward. Not getting either would be crippling b/c I anticipate them trading Dwight at some point, so waiting til the offseason to sign him seems unlikely
Shouldn't we go all-in
for Howard? If we don’t get D12, Deron is never going to sign with us just because we have Nene, we would be a mediocre Team in the East and that certainly won’t be enough.
sorry for my bad english, i’m from europe
Pretty perfect English right there
Better than most of the posters we have here honestly
I am not a fan of the all-in mentality because Otis Smith is an irrational moron.
If we were dealing with a sensible GM (for some reason we can’t), it’d be done by now, but we aren’t, so we need to give ourselves a deadline and move-on to Nene. A team centered around Nene, Brook, and D-Will is pretty good, especially with brooks/morrow on the outside hitting 3s.
CBS SPORTS
A deal for Chris Paul to the Clippers has been submitted to the league for approval. bit.ly/sCeB45 Conflicting reports about E.Gordon
First chip down, on to DH12
Wow. Go Clippers.
I’m happy for them. The deal makes sense! League offices are open. Let’s get it done BK.
It's completely fair...
and it makes sense. Gives CP3 a new start and a new team.
That was a basketball fan comment
REALLY hope this happens. Can you imagine the highlights?? That’s going to be one of the most fun teams to watch in a WHILE.
This is what the NBA needs
It’s also what it had back in its glory days (e.g. Jordan-Pippen; Stockton-Malone; Drexler-Olajuwon, etc). Forget big 3s. If superstars pair up in big 2s, with a third good complimentary player (e.g. Tyson Chandler level or below), you could have more “super teams.” The NBA should shout to have 8-10 such dynamic pairs rather than 3 or 4 big 3s. The NBA needs to get to a point where there’s at least 4 teams per conference that you could think has at least a chance to win it all in any given season.
As of now, we’re looking at:
Kobe-Gasol
Melo-Amare
CP3-Griffin
Durant-Westbrook
James-Wade-Bosh (overkill)
DWill-D12 (hopefully)
Then you have a few starless (or declining stars) but deep Detroit style teams
Rondo-Pierce-Allen-KG
Gay-ZBo-Gasol
Duncan-Ginobli-Parker
agreed
you forgot the team that just won it all though
by sheepareevil on Dec 12, 2011 1:03 PM EST up reply actions
& Chicago
Both in the deep team category rather than the 2 star category.
this deal HAS to get done today
I can’t seen Paul starting the year in NO.
I love the Nets...too bad they don't love me...
by BEB on Dec 12, 2011 9:06 AM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
He is def. getting moved this week for sure, even if this is rejected..no way this drags on. Situation is ugly, not as ugly as Florida though...
OS and DH12 taking shots at each other…Cp3 didn’t resort to any of that.
the power is shifting in LA
thanks to Stern.
Now, he has to help the next president of Russia
"It's as sweet as it ever was, I'll tell you. Now, hopefully, we started something and we can win some more championships, but we're going to enjoy this one right now. Have a little champagne." --Julius Erving, May 12, 1976, ABA champion Nets locker room.
It looked like Otis smith was waiting for the NBA to bail him out
But perhaps the league finally realizes the value in having TWO contenders in the two largest sports/media outlets in the country
At what cost?
They’ll have no front line left. We’ll see though this could force the issue. I’m hoping BK gets it done today.
How?
what assets do they have left?
Bynum or Gasol, not both. Just sent Odom to Dallas, along with their 2012 pick.
"It's as sweet as it ever was, I'll tell you. Now, hopefully, we started something and we can win some more championships, but we're going to enjoy this one right now. Have a little champagne." --Julius Erving, May 12, 1976, ABA champion Nets locker room.
Yeah, I have felt that way, but have also teams like NYK and Mavs get what they want by any means necessary...(3 or 4 team trade)
don’t get me wrong though i got total faith in BK and his trade making ability. Also, have been optimistic about landing DH12 from the start
wait...
I thought they received a 1st rounder from Dallas? LA sent THEIR 2012 pick to Dallas…how? They traded their 1st rounder last year to NJ, can’t trade own 1st rounder two years in a row.
by BKNfastbreak on Dec 12, 2011 9:51 AM EST up reply actions
d12 trade wont happen anytime soon
otis still does not want to trade d12 and it might take longer!
I have a gut feeling that Orlando is going the Denver route...
They will wait until the last possible moment before trading Howard.
They will hope somehow Howard will change his mind and decide to stay with the Magic and if not, they will then assess the trade situation a few months from now.
The question now is what should the Nets do ?
It aint happening man. This will be going down soon. ORL knows that. Nets know that.
BK is just trying to put the last whistles and bells around that gift for OTIS.
i expect deal to get done before the end of the year
or howard will get even more pissed off wen he lose his bird rights
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Another person we may miss out on...
johnschuhmann John Schuhmann
RT @MrMichaelLee: Source said Josh Howard has received an offer from San Antonio. JH could meet with Utah this week. #wizards remain in play
Billy needs to take the "owners' route"
Okay Otis, here’s the deal. We want Dwight and Dwight wants us. If you don’t trade him before losing his bird rights, then YOU LOSE a first round pick. This deal will continue to get worse, NOT BETTER, the longer you drag out this process.
Billy is at the craps table
and he has pushed all his chips into the middle of the table.
"It's as sweet as it ever was, I'll tell you. Now, hopefully, we started something and we can win some more championships, but we're going to enjoy this one right now. Have a little champagne." --Julius Erving, May 12, 1976, ABA champion Nets locker room.
Billy is at the blackjack table...
And he’s rolling the dice
lulz at ni's expense
I love the Nets...too bad they don't love me...
by BEB on Dec 12, 2011 9:29 AM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
Billy is at the slots machine
And he’s hoping he can beat the spread
Section 18, Row 7 at The Rock!
"Your 2010-2011 New Jersey Nets - It Is What It Is"
You can absolutely bet everything you have on one dice roll
Now… Whether or not that’s a good idea, that’s a whole other story.
“ahhhh jeez Gill, why’d you have the bet the company pay roll?!?”
Love the CRAPS reference; favorite game in the world!!!
“All in” in craps is putting all your money on the table and going full tilt.
I prefer betting $160 across all place numbers. $20 on the hardways and a $5 horn high yo.
As long as the dreaded “7” doesn’t come out, you make $$$ on every single roll.
J-Kidd to D-Will
No wonder he has arenas on his side now and he's gambling
The realist keepin it real amongst the surrealists
I was in Baghdad before these little B.G.'s was in they daddy-bags.
by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Dec 12, 2011 3:26 PM EST up reply actions
He deserves it, but crazy big deal all the same
Bulls GM Gar Forman said the formality of Rose’s five-year, $94 million extension is being finalized with Rose’s agents. Via Chicago Tribune
We need to be Patient
Were basically playing russian roulette right now and its the first to blink loses. We cant give up on Dwight Howard we need to keep pushing for the trade.
I hope we dont just give up and look to sign Nene. We are on the cusp of signing a major star. Fingers crossed it happens soon but we just need to be patient.
I can’t stop watching video highlights of Howard/Williams and just the thought of those two pairing up makes me giddy with excitment.
by N.Ireland Nets Fan on Dec 12, 2011 9:20 AM EST reply actions
See my below post...
I do agree with you. But how long do we let Otis mess with us? What if he just won’t trade Howard.
I just want a Nets Press Conference that doesn't involve our big pickup being Johan Petro
Honestly guys,
This offseason has been a fail so far… and I understand what we’re doing. But we’re treading on very dangerous waters. I think we’re at the cusp of losing Nene in the next two days if we don’t act, having Johan Petro as our starting center.
1. We didn’t sign anyone to improve our PF position—let alone have a starting PF
2. We still have Outlaw
3. We still are below the Cap Minimum
4. Deron still can’t be convinced without any new additions
Dangerous game here.
Unlike us, Proky does NOT panic. This gets contagious through the GM and all.
Things to keep in mind.
1. Brooklyn will be bigger than any ONE player.
2. Deron knows that, and that is why he’s calm.
3. Funny thing is that D12 knows it too, and he may have committed to come regardless in what way
4. The mere fact that nothing has happened, BK knows what’s up.
5. Back to point 1. we’re in good hands ….What can Proky do for you
berman
Agent Miller trying to broker 3-team sign&trade to bring Crawford to #Knicks as club also eyes Barea with $2.5M offer. nyp.st/torF61
small news constantly breaking…lets see what happens at the orlando noon presser…DH12 goodbye speech lol
I thought Barea signed with the T-Wolves?
Knicks are making tons of power moves.
Luckily, our future is in Billy King's hands...
He needs to have a good read. I think that media day is going to be a disaster for the Magic and then is probably the time to strike.
Our future is in Dwight's hands
If he truly wants to build “his own legacy” and be a Net, he will be. Simple as that.
Section 18, Row 7 at The Rock!
"Your 2010-2011 New Jersey Nets - It Is What It Is"
I trust Billy King
There must be things we just dont know about the whole Howard deal. King must be getting positive feedback from Smith or he wouldn’t just hang around. With Howard being ready to sign for the Nets and him needing to be traded prior to the new year a deal has to be made soon.
Theres no way this goes past the new year. A trade is bound to happen at some time this week. Im nervous as well but at the same time all the info seems to point to a Nets trade.
But like you said I dont trust Smith, he’s a complete ejit but King knows the score.
#InBillyKingWeTrust
by N.Ireland Nets Fan on Dec 12, 2011 9:27 AM EST up reply actions
I think it goes like this
The #2 player in the entire league has demanded a trade, and wants to be traded to YOUR team. You have the opportunity now to talk with his agent and clarify that it’s real, and possibly acquire what would guarantee championship contenders for the next 5 years.
I mean it’s really a no brainer. If you have a chance to get Dwight, and HE WANTS YOU TOO, you do it.
Screw Nene, screw Orlando, screw everybody.
Acquire Dwight. Profit.
Section 18, Row 7 at The Rock!
"Your 2010-2011 New Jersey Nets - It Is What It Is"
by eLonepb on Dec 12, 2011 9:34 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
+1
Totally 10000% agree. Id rather swing and miss than drop out of the race, all in.
by N.Ireland Nets Fan on Dec 12, 2011 9:37 AM EST up reply actions
Hope for the best
Thats what we can do now, i have faith in billy. If he knows we don’t have a chance, he’ll sign Nene at the very least im sure of it.. Fegan, Nene and Billy wouldn’t be so quiet unless they have something up their sleeves though otis can screw this up for us…. But still, i trust billy and our FO, lets go NETS!
Sources close to situation say J.J. Barea’s four-year deal with Timberwolves, first reported by @daldridgetnt, is valued at $19 million
glad he didn’t end up a NYK
Not saying it's wrong ... as we are all in the same page. But their PG is not a concern.
D-Will will run circles around anybody who they bring. I don’t care who it is.
Sherdian on Clippers deal (I think he's wrong)
sheridanhoops Chris Sheridan
The Clippers are now contenders for C.Paul with an offer than is infinitely worse that what NO had on table last week: bit.ly/rWHCCk
I think he's wrong too
Section 18, Row 7 at The Rock!
"Your 2010-2011 New Jersey Nets - It Is What It Is"
"infinitely worse" is a terrible way to describe it
Even if you do not agree it is marginally worse at best.
Sheridan is an idiot
That deal is perfect for New Orleans, they get young players, cap room, and with Minnesota’s pick they could possibly land a FRANCHISE PLAYER in this year’s draft
It figures that a buffoon like CS would try to sit here and brag about how Odom/Scola/Martin/Knicks worthless pick is a solid deal for a team that needs to be sold and rebuilt from scratch.
If you’re on the cusp of being a contender, then yes you take back Scola/Martin. If you’re on frickin life support, you’d want to clean house and start fresh, as any new owner would want to do.
With the Minny pick and their own, NO could rebuild very fast imo
by MrDollarBills on Dec 12, 2011 10:43 AM EST up reply actions
Agreed 100%
This is a much better deal for them. Are they better right away than the deal they would’ve received? No, but they could be much better down the road.
Bull 100% better.
Clap clogging player on the decline or great picks and great young players while saving money, please.
"Next year, with a full training camp, I think he can go after that Scott Skiles' record of 30." - Billy King
Lakers could also get desperate...
and then Houston. Which could mean no Nene or Dwight
orlando beat Steve Kerr of @NBAonTNT sorts out Dwight Howard trade scenarios for the @OrlandoSentinel: ht.ly/7WtKH
Kerr hates our package...
All he does is talk about the Lakers. I hope this ends today.
Well Kerr wasn't a very good GM now was he?
"Next year, with a full training camp, I think he can go after that Scott Skiles' record of 30." - Billy King
Another nonsense on how Nets don't have much. And ignorant statement about how LA can take the TURK as they have exception.
Why these ppl don’t do homework before they open their mouth. Exception from ODOM does not cover Turk. That is just plain 2+2=4 type math.
what if they amnesty'd someone????
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by Angelo Mihalitsianos on Dec 12, 2011 9:40 AM EST up reply actions
It is?
Their only assets are Aski (nothing special) and the Bobcats’ pick.
Dwight needs to make it clear he is coming to Nets either now or at end of year...
And Billy needs to go all in.
Are you down?
If we are actually considering bringing arenas on
that’s a sure sign we will be landing dwight……NO WAY would BK blow any capspace on him unless dwight was coming here
Section15 Row 12 Seats 1&2
by Angelo Mihalitsianos on Dec 12, 2011 9:37 AM EST reply actions
Paul trade makes me worry lakers will panic and go for Howard
They will be afraid of losing the city to Blake/Paul for the next 10 years
In Billy we trust...
Lakers would be just Howard and Kobe so it is possible Howard crosses Lakers of his list.
and who would we be?
dwill/howard…..so what makes us that much better than kobe/howard
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by Angelo Mihalitsianos on Dec 12, 2011 9:40 AM EST up reply actions
Exactly...Kobe is 34
And they will have no cap space for years.
agree with the kobe age thing
but capspace somehow never is a problem for them!!!! they always find a way
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by Angelo Mihalitsianos on Dec 12, 2011 9:43 AM EST up reply actions
Look at their vet bloated contracts...
Add Hedo and they have zero flexibility.
theyd be kobe/howard and NOTHING
We have shooters in Morrow and Brooks.
We have other young role players...
Lakers have bloated vet contracts.
The Shaq thing also seems to matter to Howard.
Lakers are definitely not 1A at this point.
you have a good point there. BSPN would even agree with you there. Even if Dwight goes to La with just Kobe…Kobe is still the number 1 guy for the time being- and once Kobe isnt the number 1 guy…he’s probably declined to the point of no return..so why would Dwight join an aging superstar…when he could play with a guy in his prime with a good 10-12 years left…( d-wills only 27!). J-kidd is in his late 30s and he was still crucial to the Mavs championship run. So if Dwight is truly thinking long term… his window with LAL is roughly 3-4 years…with BKLYN its potentially 10-12 years…No brainer.
So..
Lets say the Nets offer Pau and maybe draft picks or something
Mavs offer some shooters and picks, hedo’s contract
Nets offer lopez, picks, and hedo’s contract
It comes down to championship opportunity…
Who does dwight choose? im scared
um kerr has a point
lakers give gasol and bynum, orlando sends dwight and couple first round picks, and then otis gets to ‘not rebuild’ and ‘compete now’…
Orl is sending first round picks to LA?
That is a joke.
why not?
trade dwight for a starting frontcourt and you get to still try to make the playoffs in the east
no way the team that's losing dwight howard
is giving up picks
You're not winning anything without a superstar
Yeah you’d still get a playoff appearance or so, but you’re never winning a championship
Sorry, but shoehorning in Gasol and Bynum (who'll be on the bench anyway)
doesn’t make them competitive when theIR lineup includes Nelson, J-Rich, and Larry Hughes.
At beast they’ll be an 8th seed. AT BEST.
You saw that team last year against the Hawks. They were only it because Dwight was scoring like 50 per night.
by Anthony Perez on Dec 12, 2011 10:44 AM EST up reply actions
That whole compete now philosophy is so dumb
If you trade Dwight Howard, it’s important to start from scratch rather than bring in bloated contracts and players who can’t stay healthy.
Given how pissed Kobe is about Lamar being dumped, I don’t think he’s going to the Lakers. They can’t upset their superstar.
WojYahooNBA Adrian Wojnarowski
Eric Gordon isn’t included in a revised Clippers-New Orleans deal for Chris Paul, league source tells Y! Sports.
Knew it
Broussard said he was, so the opposite must be true.
Let us anoint this, the Law of Broussard
Espn
Is reporting Gordon is involved and Bledsoe is not. Idk Wat to believe
Apply The Law of Broussard
Broussard tweeted earlier that Eric Gordon is involved. Therefore, Eric Gordon must not be involved
Bledsoe can’t be in the deal, he’s out 6-8 weeks. I believe you cannot trade an injured player
by JimmyLips on Dec 12, 2011 11:09 AM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
Why would Stern even consider such a deal?
by -Seiti- on Dec 12, 2011 9:51 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I don't see what makes it gigantically bad
You’re getting an expiring, you’re getting two young players with plenty of potential, you’re getting a high draft pick. Standard rebuilding package
Best case scenario
Dwill/arena/Gaines
Morrow/brooks
Jhoward/?
Nene/jwill/Evans
Howard/Swilliams
Championship?
Don't think we would have that much to spend
Just minimum that’s why I put jhoward out there. He would except a minimum deal
If Hornets don't get Gordon, Clippers have a team
WojYahooNBA Adrian Wojnarowski
Eric Gordon isn’t included in a revised Clippers-New Orleans deal for Chris Paul, league source tells Y! Sports.
Feels good to be back
If Hornets don't get Gordon, Clippers have a team
WojYahooNBA Adrian Wojnarowski
Eric Gordon isn’t included in a revised Clippers-New Orleans deal for Chris Paul, league source tells Y! Sports.
Feels good to be back
And a bench
With Craig smith randy foy mo Williams Ryan Gomes Ike diogu
IMO
I don’t think the CP3 goes down without D12 being resolved. For some strange reason DStern will make sure that D12 is Brooklyn bound.
Posted in other thread, but I'll ask here
When was the last time Billy King spoke to the media or was seen in public?
What is the trade value of Morrow to a third team?
That’s our other trade chip outside of Brooks, picks and cap space. A shame to lose Morrow but if trading him gets it done, I’d do it anytime. The Magic already have Redick so it has to be to a third team that can send something of interest to Orlando.
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