Nets Very Optimistic After Thursday; In "Pretty Strong" Position for Nene
by Net Income on Dec 2, 2011 8:54 AM EST
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PrintOn the surface, and on talk radio, the Nets would seem to have had a bad day Tuesday, but the front office remains "quietly confident" they are making progress in free agency..."very optimistic" in the words of one league executive.
In particular, league sources told Fred Kerber that the Nets are aggressive in the pursuit of Nene Hilario and Tyson Chandler with their chances of getting Nene rated as "pretty strong," perhaps in the lead. Chandler, Kerber writes, is "waiting to see what the Nets want to do". A trade for Dwight Howard is still possible but the Magic aren't jumping at the chance.
As for Deron Williams' decision to opt out of his contract, the Nets were pleased to see that Jeff Schwartz noted, "It has nothing to do with how much he likes New Jersey.," and not long after, Williams himself tweeted, "Don't know why people are tripping just bc I'm opting out doesn't mean that I won't resign with the nets!"
Afterwards, Billy King said in a statement, "Jeff Schwartz and I had spoken about Deron’s contract situation and I am very comfortable with their decision".
As Kerber wrote, unless Williams thinks $42,711,249 as "chump change", he'd be that much better off to wait six months. Meanwhile, Stefan Bondy reports that Kris Humphries agent believes the Nets have legitimate interest in his client and several other new names were added to the mix. The Nets have reached out to both Grant Hill, a Knicks target, and Boki Nachbar, who wants to return after two years in Europe, says Kerber. They've also contacted agents for Rasual Butler and Josh McRoberts, says Al Iannazzone.
- Deron Williams won't sign with Nets before becoming free agent - Fred Kerber - New York Post
- Nets’ chances ‘pretty strong’ to land Nene - Fred Kerber - New York Post
- Paul, other players have no leverage to force deal - Peter Vecsey - New York Post
- Deron Williams will not sign extension but doesn't rule out future with NJ Nets - Stefan Bondy - New York Daily News
- Unlike Kim Kardashian, Nets want Kris Humphries back - Stefan Bondy - New York Daily News
- Pressing matters facing the Nets - Al Iannazzone - The Nets Insider
- GM Billy King is thinking free agent centers - Al Iannazzone - The Record
- The Ball Still Belongs to the Stars - Howard Beck - New York Times
- D-Will: The Real Winner Of the Lockout - Sekou Smith - NBA.com
- No need to worry about D-Will just yet - Mike Mazzeo - ESPN New York
- CP3 drama and other free-agent buzz - Ken Berger - CBS Sports
- Deron Williams turns down extension with Nets, may not be leaving - Kurt Helin - NBC Sports
- Deron Williams: Opting Out Does Not Mean I Won’t Re-Sign With Nets - Zach Lowe - Sports Illustrated
- Deron Williams won't sign extension with Nets, sets precedent for stars - Sean Deveney - Sporting News
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So many threads, such little otherwise productively used time.
It’s consuming right now lol.
by vincecarter4pres on Dec 1, 2011 11:19 PM EST reply actions
Stop teasing, we all know its Dwight lol, @ESPNSteinLine
A growing number of execs starting to believe that Magic will indeed give strong consideration to doing Dwight deal before season starts
@ESPNSteinLine
I put @ESPNSteinLine in the heading
Dwight is making his decision so hard
Melo came out and said trade me now and to the Knicks
Now Paul trade me now and to the Knicks
Why can’t Howard just come out and do the same? It doesn’t have to be the nets but just come out like Melo and Paul and say what’s on your mind
by Nets4Life(8) on Dec 1, 2011 11:25 PM EST up reply actions
Because he isn't represented by CAA slime?
Section 18, Row 7 at The Rock!
"Your 2010-2011 New Jersey Nets - It Is What It Is"
dissing your own kind? marketing and p.r. people. that's foul
2010-2011 = acquire an All-Star via cap space as Thorn himself said
2011-2012 = make the playoffs without hindering future flexibility
2012 off-season = sign the second All-Star
2012-2013 = make a run for the championship
Mission accomplished thus far.
by BigTom on Dec 2, 2011 8:41 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Agents are far different!
Section 18, Row 7 at The Rock!
"Your 2010-2011 New Jersey Nets - It Is What It Is"
Nets were very optimistic in 2010
We all know how that turned out. I’m going to keep very low expectations this time around, but I do hope something good happens for a change
by BennyandtheNets on Dec 1, 2011 11:23 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
josh smith
is it possible to trade for josh smith and then include him in a package to orlando? or maybe a three way deal between nets, magic, and hawks? or if we do trade for him, would it make the most sense just to keep him?
Does anyone believe that if we sign chandler or nene we’ll use them in the howard trade?
To me it makes no sense for the magic, they’re trying to rid of money and start over why would they take on a big contract nene would receive?
by Nets4Life(8) on Dec 1, 2011 11:23 PM EST reply actions
just heard on espn radio
JA adande was a guest on freddie coleman’s show and he
said that it would not surprise him at all if the Nets nab assets
via FA (chandler or Nene) and use said assets in a package
for Dwight
by pope of lofe on Dec 1, 2011 11:45 PM EST up reply actions
FA's have to have that in the back of their mind though.
Will that effect their decision to sign?
by vincecarter4pres on Dec 1, 2011 11:49 PM EST up reply actions
well the nuggets still made the playoffs after the trade
so i mean its not like SVG sucks as a coach he just can never get a competent roster to coach
The realist keepin it real amongst the surrealists
I was in Baghdad before these little B.G.'s was in they daddy-bags.
by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Dec 2, 2011 12:37 AM EST up reply actions
Huh?
I was just saying that if a guy like Nene thinks he’s signing here to be dealt in February/March, why would he sign here at all?
Especially if he’s taking less then he could get elsewhere?
Has to be something they’re thinking about and talking to Billy about.
by vincecarter4pres on Dec 2, 2011 12:40 AM EST up reply actions
Very optimisitc....
About what…? hahaha
That millisecond you're sure you're going to die when you lean back in your chair a little to far.
Better be Dwight ;)
That millisecond you're sure you're going to die when you lean back in your chair a little to far.
DWIGHT HOWARD NEEDS TO SPEAK UP!!!!!
say your staying or goinggg…..i like nene and chandler but there not worthnmax money but we have no choice but to sign one of them… we need wins and have to better the roster….i think its preet funny that humphries is a free agent coming off a solid yr double double and hasnt been mentioned once in free agent talk with any team lol
Optimism
Reminds me of last year’s free agency :(
Two MAJOR differences
1) The Nets already have a star in place in Deron Williams
2) Brooklyn is now a reality, no longer a myth
by ZR on Dec 2, 2011 9:16 AM EST up reply actions
I WANT THE DERON TO HOWARD ALLEYYYYYS!!!!!!!!
by netsfan247 on Dec 1, 2011 11:25 PM EST reply actions 14 recs
hence the sig
dwill to howard -> kidd to kmart 2.0
by blguerriero1 on Dec 1, 2011 11:27 PM EST up reply actions
I am assuming that if we get Howard, then we can't sign Nene or Chandler, even with the Outlaw amnesty?
LETS GO NETS!
at that point
who cares? Dwight is 3 Nenes and 2 and a half chandlers
Welcome to Nets City
by Jay2fly on Dec 1, 2011 11:28 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
If Turkoglu is included,
then there won’t be enough cap space to sign anything but minor free agents. And if the Nets are getting Howard before the season, it’s because Turkoglu is included.
NetsDaily.com
I think we will have the MLE (5 mill) and LLE (1.9)
Maybe a Farmar trade if he is not in the deal
if that's what does happen then I can see the Nets
Solidifying the starting 5 with AK as a defender and stretch 4 depending on the matchup. He’d be the best fit especially with Turk’s suspect defense. The MLE or Most of it should get it done….
by boogeewon on Dec 2, 2011 4:26 AM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
actually hedo is rated as one of the better defenders out there
now that has a lot to do with dwight behind him but 6’10 260 is hard to shoot over or get around for a clean look
The realist keepin it real amongst the surrealists
I was in Baghdad before these little B.G.'s was in they daddy-bags.
by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Dec 2, 2011 7:53 PM EST up reply actions
Hedo is one of the worst perimeter defends in the league.
Advanced stats aren’t the end all be all, ESPECIALLY defensive ones and certain specific defensive ones.
Context MUST be used with all stats or they are nothing but Charlie Brown teacher talk on paper.
by vincecarter4pres on Dec 3, 2011 1:21 PM EST up reply actions
So the Nets are looking at two other bigs, Nene and Tyson Chandler, and NBA sources rate the Nets’ chances as favorable for either. The Nets’ preference is Nene.
Read more: http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/nets/williams_won_sign_deal_with_nets_efLOxQfVvnbLdxGSiOwUrO#ixzz1fLeYMSz4
I think we sign Nene and Chandler goes back to the Mavs
@ HowardBeckNYT
Deal done, source says. NBA is back.
-November 26th, 3:17 am.
Nene will be a Rocket
And Chandler will be a Warrior book it!
by boogeewon on Dec 2, 2011 4:28 AM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
im acting as if we dont get dwight
so we get nene now what three will we sign
it might not be Prince
it really makes sense for both teams. It could or could not happen, but still makes a ton of sense
by JerseysFinest. on Dec 1, 2011 11:31 PM EST up reply actions
Dwight without a slightest bit of hesitation
This league is all about having top-20 players on your team.
2010-2011 = acquire an All-Star via cap space as Thorn himself said
2011-2012 = make the playoffs without hindering future flexibility
2012 off-season = sign the second All-Star
2012-2013 = make a run for the championship
Mission accomplished thus far.
dwight cannont be touched by anyone in the NBA...
look at what he did against atl in the playoffs…imagine if hes paired with deron…WOW
kerber also said
Howard deal is not close
"It's as sweet as it ever was, I'll tell you. Now, hopefully, we started something and we can win some more championships, but we're going to enjoy this one right now. Have a little champagne." --Julius Erving, May 12, 1976, ABA champion Nets locker room.
No silly head....."Hamburgler"
Niners,Nets,Reds & USC!!!
The Most Interesting Man In The World---->Mikhail Prokhorov!!!
by Kidd2Petrovic on Dec 2, 2011 9:54 AM EST up reply actions
Yes
But read the Kerber article. CP3 is planning his exit and Dwight will soon follow the same path. If Howard wants to leave, he has to do it now.
there will be more tomorrow
in the beat writers stuff.
"It's as sweet as it ever was, I'll tell you. Now, hopefully, we started something and we can win some more championships, but we're going to enjoy this one right now. Have a little champagne." --Julius Erving, May 12, 1976, ABA champion Nets locker room.
if it important, it would’ve been said now, and it won’t have to wait until tomorrow.
@ HowardBeckNYT
Deal done, source says. NBA is back.
-November 26th, 3:17 am.
How so?
They have to sell papers and generate ad revenue everyday.
There aren’t as many people up now as their will be throughout the day tomorrow though.
by vincecarter4pres on Dec 1, 2011 11:54 PM EST up reply actions
positive, meaning negative to me
2010-2011 = acquire an All-Star via cap space as Thorn himself said
2011-2012 = make the playoffs without hindering future flexibility
2012 off-season = sign the second All-Star
2012-2013 = make a run for the championship
Mission accomplished thus far.
by BigTom on Dec 2, 2011 8:45 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
sunny but chilly
2010-2011 = acquire an All-Star via cap space as Thorn himself said
2011-2012 = make the playoffs without hindering future flexibility
2012 off-season = sign the second All-Star
2012-2013 = make a run for the championship
Mission accomplished thus far.
by BigTom on Dec 2, 2011 8:45 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
But couldn't Brook be that special player... and Nene
Is pretty good as well. Plus if we have enough money to get a SOLID SF then we’d finally have a TEAM.
by Ccrules2791 on Dec 1, 2011 11:38 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
This has probably been the most hectic week of school in my life up to this point.
Thank you, ND, for making it even more condensed with all the updates and threads.
In all seriousness, though, you do an incredible job, NI.
I know you get that a lot, but I think we take it for granted many times how incredible this blog is. It may very well be the best one on all of SBN.
Thank you for your hard work.
by OTRWaldo on Dec 1, 2011 11:41 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Yawn, NI.
Wake me up when you have a real source with real information that real players want to play in the real Nets Stadium in 2011.
I don’t believe any of it. The punitive tax doesn’t kick in until 2013-14, so Cuban can afford to bring Chandler back- Chandler just wants more money.
Nene might sign with the Nets, but you better believe he is going to try and drive his price up with other offers, not the 13-14 million we’re hoping for.
by mytoemytoe on Dec 1, 2011 11:37 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Nene...
More of a PF fit I feel like and we also get more passing, will fit well in with the system though Chandler would too.
PG – Deron
SG – Morrow
SF – AK47/Prince/Young (?) — pretty much throw 8 million at someone
PF – Nene
C – Brook
Bench:
Farmar, Marshon, Petro, Gaines, James.
Not too bad.
Why does this feel like the Carmelo drama starting all over again! lol
The only difference, I am glad we didn’t get Carmela.
LETS GO NETS!
At least we're not in training camp or the season yet...
so no damage done
looks like it might be nene
with dwight heading to the lakers.
the new york big three could scare dwight out of the east
My lil man.....can't tell me god don't exist.
by killa kadafi191 on Dec 1, 2011 11:42 PM EST reply actions
The latter sentences are completely baseless.
by Dopeness on Dec 1, 2011 11:43 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
if new york gets there big three. That’s the Bulls Knicks and Heat that will be considered contenders.
Shaq admitted that what factor in him going to the lakers too was the Bulls return to dominance
My lil man.....can't tell me god don't exist.
by killa kadafi191 on Dec 1, 2011 11:45 PM EST up reply actions
maybe but it's enough to contend in the east
My lil man.....can't tell me god don't exist.
by killa kadafi191 on Dec 1, 2011 11:47 PM EST up reply actions
CP3 to NY
is not even close to happening. He is not being traded there.
by NetsKiNG on Dec 1, 2011 11:46 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
what makes you so sure
first people said no way CP3 would walk away from all that money what is it now?
My lil man.....can't tell me god don't exist.
by killa kadafi191 on Dec 1, 2011 11:47 PM EST up reply actions
What makes me so sure?
The NBA currently owns the Hornets and after 6 months of preaching competitive balance they are going to trade him to NY for a pile of absolute garbage?
Uhhhh, no.
by NetsKiNG on Dec 1, 2011 11:48 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
honestly
the best thing for the hornets is the same thing best for the magic trade CP3.
they will be losing CP3 any way.
what I don’t get people saying “the hornets will not be appealing to a buyer with cp3 gone.”
who is going to buy them knowing CP3 is already willing to leave money on the table to be a knick.
either way he is gone.
so they are screwed either way. add that to west leaving too.
best thing for them is to trade cp3 and hope for a good pick and a new player to be the face of their franchise
My lil man.....can't tell me god don't exist.
by killa kadafi191 on Dec 1, 2011 11:53 PM EST up reply actions
lebron melo bosh and hell look at dwight
people saw what lebron did and they panic
My lil man.....can't tell me god don't exist.
by killa kadafi191 on Dec 1, 2011 11:56 PM EST up reply actions
They will look to trade him
and can get a better package from a contender looking at a rental situation than that of the Knicks.
The Knicks literally having nothing appealing to offer.
Landry fields? Billups expiring deal? Horse poo?
by NetsKiNG on Dec 1, 2011 11:55 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
they didn't have any when they
got Melo too right? I think they got one for Minn right?
My lil man.....can't tell me god don't exist.
by killa kadafi191 on Dec 2, 2011 12:08 AM EST up reply actions
They gave up the first they got from Minny and the Nuggets have the right to pick swap in 2016 with zero protection.
Plus Gallo is more or less a blue chip prospect.
by vincecarter4pres on Dec 2, 2011 12:10 AM EST up reply actions
so he stills end up at the knicks?
once he leaves the team that is renting him?
My lil man.....can't tell me god don't exist.
by killa kadafi191 on Dec 1, 2011 11:57 PM EST up reply actions
Could very well be the scenario.
But he would have to forfeit $40 mil to make it happen. Not sure why people are so certain that this is going to happen…it NEVER happens.
to be fair
we along with the clippers met with lebron too.
honestly only the cavs heat and bulls really had appealing situations
My lil man.....can't tell me god don't exist.
by killa kadafi191 on Dec 2, 2011 12:09 AM EST up reply actions
not really
the knicks sucked for ten years and the best they could offer was Amare.
Honestly I thought he would go to bulls but hey the heat situation was better
My lil man.....can't tell me god don't exist.
by killa kadafi191 on Dec 2, 2011 12:13 AM EST up reply actions
Don't get me wrong; I completely expect Chris Paul to be a Knick by the start of next season.
However … nothing suggests that Howard will end up on the Lakers and nothing leads us to say that he’ll be scared away by other contenders in the East. He’s gonna have to (be able to) get passed them one way or the other.
yes and it would be easier out west
here he would have to go through the bulls heat or knicks.
again I said could but I just expect dwight to be shipped out of the conference and once dec 9 passes and the nets sign their players that will take them out of the fight for dwight.
as king said this won’t be melo again
My lil man.....can't tell me god don't exist.
by killa kadafi191 on Dec 1, 2011 11:55 PM EST up reply actions
There are more options then that for Paul, but he may not like a lot of them.
Golden State is one.
Rumor is they’re trying to get Rudy Gay for Monta.
Then Paul for Steph Curry.
I imagine they would go hard after Chandler or Nene then as well.
by vincecarter4pres on Dec 2, 2011 12:13 AM EST up reply actions
either way GS wants Chandler believe it or not.....
by boogeewon on Dec 2, 2011 4:51 AM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
if CP3 wants it…he’ll get there.
@ HowardBeckNYT
Deal done, source says. NBA is back.
-November 26th, 3:17 am.
Yep
via free agency, if he wants to leave the $$ on the table. He isn’t getting dealt there.
by NetsKiNG on Dec 1, 2011 11:48 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Exactly.
He’s going to have to compromise and find a different team if he wants his cake and wants to eat it too.
by vincecarter4pres on Dec 1, 2011 11:57 PM EST up reply actions
To be honest tho
I think it might be a mistake for the Knicks to go the CP3 route with him and Amare having bad knees, and having nothing else on the roster. If I were them I would save the money and build a TEAM.
"We're not there yet, but we're going somewhere," Johnson said. "And we're going to Brooklyn. We're not going to contract. We're going to Brooklyn."
they should be chasing Tyson but you know its the Knicks
My lil man.....can't tell me god don't exist.
by killa kadafi191 on Dec 1, 2011 11:45 PM EST up reply actions
They picked up the option on Billups and now you're saying they should amnesty him.
ugh.
2010-2011 = acquire an All-Star via cap space as Thorn himself said
2011-2012 = make the playoffs without hindering future flexibility
2012 off-season = sign the second All-Star
2012-2013 = make a run for the championship
Mission accomplished thus far.
even dalembert would do wonders for them
people act like chauncey sucks and i bet when nash is a FA next year him and chauncey will re-up in NY together on cheaper deals
The realist keepin it real amongst the surrealists
I was in Baghdad before these little B.G.'s was in they daddy-bags.
by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Dec 2, 2011 12:52 AM EST up reply actions
Killa you don’t seem confident that the nets have a chance at howard
by Nets4Life(8) on Dec 1, 2011 11:58 PM EST up reply actions
I said they have the best
offer any team will make but the best offer is not always agreed upon.
King said he will not wait for Howard and not let the same distractions that took place with Melo happen again.
the nets best chance to get Howard is before they sign anyone.
if Orlando won’t accept that deal they won’t accept nothing.
it won’t get any better than that right there. Unless they add 72 virgins that look like Bria Myles
My lil man.....can't tell me god don't exist.
by killa kadafi191 on Dec 2, 2011 12:02 AM EST up reply actions
Fail...
If I was offered 72 virgins that look like her, sorry, but I would have to pass on that trade as well…
by NJNETS13 on Dec 2, 2011 12:48 AM EST up reply actions 4 recs
whattttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttt
wait I don’t want to post how she look when you see her curves then again different strokes for different folks
My lil man.....can't tell me god don't exist.
by killa kadafi191 on Dec 2, 2011 12:49 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
okay you tell me who you like
My lil man.....can't tell me god don't exist.
by killa kadafi191 on Dec 2, 2011 12:57 AM EST up reply actions
Milan Kunis
Section 18, Row 7 at The Rock!
"Your 2010-2011 New Jersey Nets - It Is What It Is"
by eLonepb on Dec 2, 2011 4:19 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
gross
2010-2011 = acquire an All-Star via cap space as Thorn himself said
2011-2012 = make the playoffs without hindering future flexibility
2012 off-season = sign the second All-Star
2012-2013 = make a run for the championship
Mission accomplished thus far.
too skinny
My lil man.....can't tell me god don't exist.
by killa kadafi191 on Dec 2, 2011 9:11 AM EST up reply actions
#1 on my "Celebs I Am Allowed To Cheat With" list
by BrooklynNets on Dec 2, 2011 10:09 AM EST up reply actions 3 recs
who is this
she ain’t skinny like the other one not thick but not skinny
My lil man.....can't tell me god don't exist.
by killa kadafi191 on Dec 2, 2011 3:16 PM EST up reply actions
she is an actress right?
homie as I said before different strokes different folks.
what’s popping with your section may not be poppin here.
again she cute but I gotta see her from the back. skinny women get thumbs down.
yeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
My lil man.....can't tell me god don't exist.
by killa kadafi191 on Dec 2, 2011 3:49 PM EST up reply actions
look at that too big to fit hahahhaah
My lil man.....can't tell me god don't exist.
by killa kadafi191 on Dec 2, 2011 3:49 PM EST up reply actions
hahahahahaahahahahhahaahha
My lil man.....can't tell me god don't exist.
by killa kadafi191 on Dec 2, 2011 4:25 PM EST up reply actions
Thank god you got that reference lol.
by vincecarter4pres on Dec 2, 2011 4:43 PM EST up reply actions
I saw it on
community and vince you one of the few that can curse me out and say things to me I won’t take personal.
this is barber shop talk to me hahahah
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=493pL_Vbtnc
and the best comedy on tv
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q-_4mcYsQdE
My lil man.....can't tell me god don't exist.
by killa kadafi191 on Dec 2, 2011 4:48 PM EST up reply actions
Haha, that was great, I've still never seen that show.
*Hides while whole board looks to burn me at the stake.
by vincecarter4pres on Dec 2, 2011 5:12 PM EST up reply actions
My lil man.....can't tell me god don't exist.
by killa kadafi191 on Dec 2, 2011 3:19 PM EST up reply actions
lol, the chick from King Magazine
The realist keepin it real amongst the surrealists
I was in Baghdad before these little B.G.'s was in they daddy-bags.
by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Dec 2, 2011 7:58 PM EST up reply actions
The behind is nice!
But What about in the front?
by jasperjarrod on Dec 2, 2011 10:08 AM EST up reply actions
different trannys for different folks you mean
this pic is straight DUDE
FRANKS AND BEANS FRANKS AND BEANS
by lemmetakeutodamovies on Dec 2, 2011 11:22 AM EST up reply actions
Bria Myles????
dude u smoking but again let me be more politically incorrect Bria Myles is what majority BLACK MEN considered sexy since we tend to like women with curves
while chicks like this look anorexia
so again give me a woman with curves instead of a skinny girl with no butt or chest.
My lil man.....can't tell me god don't exist.
by killa kadafi191 on Dec 2, 2011 1:28 PM EST up reply actions
seriously i should get a warning for this last pic
I see this broads rib cage give that chick a burger
My lil man.....can't tell me god don't exist.
by killa kadafi191 on Dec 2, 2011 1:31 PM EST up reply actions
i'm fine with just the two
mariana and camila davalo
Wow!
If I can just hide, the sinner inside, and keep him denied.
How sweet life would be, if I could be free, from the sinner in me.
This Nene/Chandler heat seems to be like a smokescreen
I don’t doubt we’re interested in both, but our main target has to be Dwight of course. BK has to be pushing that as our # 1 priority, and I get that we don’t want to have all our eggs in one (slow deciding) basket like LBJ so he’s exploring the other bigs. But the heat on Nene and Chandler—seems to me that BK is driving that, publicly, to push Otis to pull the trigger or at least start negotiating seriously asap. I highly doubt we’ll sign Nene without some solid intel that either Dwight or Orlando rules us out. We may be ‘in the lead’ but our optimism has to be coming from what we’re doing for Dwight and Deron, not about signing anyone else.
dont get your hopes up.
i dont this is a smokescreen. we cant risk leaving with nothing..
Check out the funniest person on youtube Edbassmaster: http://www.youtube.com/user/edbassmaster
Yankees>Rest of MLB
They Finally called up Baby Jesus
by BrettGardnerLF on Dec 1, 2011 11:44 PM EST up reply actions
exactly
My lil man.....can't tell me god don't exist.
by killa kadafi191 on Dec 1, 2011 11:46 PM EST up reply actions
I think King is genuine in his statements
that the Nets are actually getting these players. It looks like Nene will be playing here soon, and an unidentified small forward who I think might possibly end up being Mr. Shane Battier. I really do not think AK47 is coming here, too many injuries
by JerseysFinest. on Dec 1, 2011 11:45 PM EST up reply actions
i think thad or green
as much as many people on here dislike those two..
Check out the funniest person on youtube Edbassmaster: http://www.youtube.com/user/edbassmaster
Yankees>Rest of MLB
They Finally called up Baby Jesus
by BrettGardnerLF on Dec 1, 2011 11:47 PM EST up reply actions
I think Philadelphia will undoubtedly keep Young
they’ll pay whatever price they have to to keep him on their roster, no doubt in my mind.
Green…. I don’t really want him on the team that much, and Boston will probably pay whatever it takes to keep him.
by JerseysFinest. on Dec 1, 2011 11:52 PM EST up reply actions
youre probably right
so who are you thinking? Prince?
Check out the funniest person on youtube Edbassmaster: http://www.youtube.com/user/edbassmaster
Yankees>Rest of MLB
They Finally called up Baby Jesus
by BrettGardnerLF on Dec 1, 2011 11:54 PM EST up reply actions
In some Detroit news article I posted earlier
it said something like Prince may be dealt in a S&T for Kaman. I think that’s great value for both teams. If that happens, I think it could be Shane Battier
by JerseysFinest. on Dec 2, 2011 12:17 AM EST up reply actions
could we try 2 sign and trade Chandler or nene 2 the hawks for jsmoove and include him in the trade 4 Dwight ?
They both want 2 play for a contender
Chandler could move horford 2 pf
by planglois13 on Dec 1, 2011 11:51 PM EST via iPhone app reply actions
I am sure there is something against
Signing a free agent and then trading him away immediately.
haha listening to 1050
first caller… delusional knick fan saying melo is better than lebron
D-WILL>Mela
its he's!, not his!!!!
speaking before you think can have severe consequences, however doing it in reverse can have beautiful results!
You take Melo over THE best player in the game?
im sorry i know everyone hates Lebron (including myself) but the guy is the best player in the NBA.
that whole thing is funny to me. Yea melo has hit some game winners and Lebron is well….Lebron, aka mr. no show in big games. While i dislike Lebron , the guy has led his teams (the cavs) farther then melo ever has on more talented teams……..And look what happened last year, Melo left for the knicks and the nuggets who were pegged as dead i the water got sooooooo much better.
Melo is very talented but he can't really carry teams like LeBron can potentially
He’s just not a two-way player.
When the Nets were interested in Melo, I was looking forward to having him because he can attract other stars. Deron may not have the same power as Melo, but he’s a better player.
by ZR on Dec 2, 2011 9:22 AM EST up reply actions
Why does everyone bring up Prince? Not a big fan at this point in his career.
I would rather have Battier or Young.
LETS GO NETS!
Prince is still an excellent defender
And given Avery and Carlisemo’s focus on tough, hard-nosed defense, Prince would fit in well.
by ZR on Dec 2, 2011 9:23 AM EST up reply actions
I like Nene as well, but, I still think we need to resign the Hump then. We need that three big man rotation.
LETS GO NETS!
by JustinNJ on Dec 1, 2011 11:59 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Imagine a big man rotation of Lopez/Nene/Hump
pretty nice,I’d say.
@ HowardBeckNYT
Deal done, source says. NBA is back.
-November 26th, 3:17 am.
yup when Nene needs a rest Hump plays pf and Lopes C, When Lopez needs a rest Nene plays center Hump players pf, when Hump needs a rest Nene and LOpez play together
by RandyOreens on Dec 2, 2011 12:02 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
nice blog article
here’s a nice blog article about why Magic would consider trading dwight before the start of the year. it just makes so much sense, come on otis. (not my blog)
That's Dr. Mufusa's article.
He’s a solid poster, got some off the wall ideas and inflated player values running through his head sometimes though.
by vincecarter4pres on Dec 2, 2011 12:07 AM EST up reply actions
It's a good post
Only thing is I don’t see the Nets giving up Morrow for Richardson. They’re already taking back Hedo and that’s a gift.
by ZR on Dec 2, 2011 9:25 AM EST up reply actions
Orlando also has JJ Redick
Another reason why there’s no reason for Morrow.
by ZR on Dec 2, 2011 9:26 AM EST up reply actions
yea, so he'd have to agree to a S&T
The realist keepin it real amongst the surrealists
I was in Baghdad before these little B.G.'s was in they daddy-bags.
by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Dec 2, 2011 8:01 PM EST up reply actions
In essence, we strengthen our 4 with the addition of Nene and we have a full year with Brook and Hump with Deron leading.
We add Marshon’s scoring with Morrow’s shooting. Damion James is hopefully healthy finally and then we have to find a starting sf and perhaps another sg like Affalo. In addition, we have nice depth at the pg with Farmar and Gaines.
LETS GO NETS!
We need to go the defensive root this off season
Chandler or Nene
Luc Richard
Stevenson
by RandyOreens on Dec 2, 2011 12:10 AM EST reply actions 3 recs
and another goldstar for you.
@ HowardBeckNYT
Deal done, source says. NBA is back.
-November 26th, 3:17 am.
Like the first two lines:
Chandler or Nene + Luc Richard. If we can get that for the bargain rate of about $15 million, I think that’s great.
by BrooklynNets on Dec 2, 2011 10:13 AM EST up reply actions
Does anyone know how much cap space we have now?
JKidd Era 2! Starring D.Williams as the lead actor, Avery Johnson as Byron Scott, and Player X as Player Y.
Let the show begin!
by LetsGoNets on Dec 2, 2011 12:13 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
Have to run the numbers again, so don't hold me to this, haven't ran them in awhile.
But I believe we have around 15.9 with Outlaw, around 22.5 without him.
by vincecarter4pres on Dec 2, 2011 12:15 AM EST up reply actions
do we still have graham on our book?
JKidd Era 2! Starring D.Williams as the lead actor, Avery Johnson as Byron Scott, and Player X as Player Y.
Let the show begin!
Those, if they are indeed correct, would be with Graham waived.
That would include the following:
Deron
Lopez
Morrow
Farmar
Petro
James
Brooks
Gaines
Williams
3 capholds
by vincecarter4pres on Dec 2, 2011 12:32 AM EST up reply actions
I factored in Jordan Williams on a $600 k salary
and we have about $41.5 million committed if we renounce Graham. Cap is what, $58 million?
by BrooklynNets on Dec 2, 2011 10:15 AM EST up reply actions
Are you factoring in roster spot cap holds?
Believe the cap is set at $58.5 BTW.
by vincecarter4pres on Dec 2, 2011 2:54 PM EST up reply actions
Off topic
But if you go to the Nets website THE PLAYERS IMAGES ARE BACK!!!!!!!!!
just a thought....
…..IF the Dwight deal goes down (and I think if we are going to land him it will be sooner rather than later) would it make more sense to Amnesty Turk rather than Outlaw?
Nets would need to amnesty Outlaw
before even taking on Turkoglu
by JerseysFinest. on Dec 2, 2011 12:24 AM EST up reply actions
you can't amnesty a guy you traded for
by ncquake24 on Dec 2, 2011 7:49 AM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
He'd likely become the 6xth man and play the 3/4 for about 30mpg.
by vincecarter4pres on Dec 2, 2011 12:33 AM EST up reply actions
this is true too, and.....
If Orlando is going to go the rebuilding route, it makes much more sense to deal with us when we can throw them a life-line from salary cap hell…plus makes more sense to have a young center like Lopez and picks in a loaded draft rather than an older guy like Gasol and or Bynum who can’t even stay on the court for more than 50 games per year
exactly
why the nets have the best offer they will get.
the thing is this deal has a clock on it but after seeing Otis comments today seems like he is anxious to know what Dwight wants to do.
My lil man.....can't tell me god don't exist.
by killa kadafi191 on Dec 2, 2011 12:30 AM EST up reply actions
I think once they have that conversation...
……the rumors will pick up and we’ll have a better idea if we landed the big Fish!
the truth
Otis said if dwight wants to go they will move on and do what’s best for the franchise.
I mean seriously. People mad at Chris Paul for supposedly saying he wants to go to the knicks. Don’t people say this would be easier if players told the truth and didn’t bs?
My lil man.....can't tell me god don't exist.
by killa kadafi191 on Dec 2, 2011 12:34 AM EST up reply actions
Hopefully that will include needing League Pass.
by vincecarter4pres on Dec 2, 2011 12:34 AM EST up reply actions
not if you use illegal streams
The realist keepin it real amongst the surrealists
I was in Baghdad before these little B.G.'s was in they daddy-bags.
by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Dec 2, 2011 12:56 AM EST up reply actions
I don't know why but for some odd reason I am 110% convinced we will get Howard
It may be this season, or next summer but he WILL be in Brooklyn.
In Prokhorov & Billy King WE TRUST.
8 > 3
DH12 OR BUST!
Official Member of the "Travis OutLOL Society". 5 years, 35 Million Dollars worth of lulz.
If we get him
it’s this season and soon-jmo
the writing is on the wall
Superstars teaming up
Dwight says wants to play with Deron and ANTHONY MORROW?
bigger market
you guys are unbelievable
Howard to the nets is anything but inevitable. There is no writing on the wall. Jesus.
and lets get another thing straight
it’s not going to come down to what Orlando wants for Howard, it will come down to where Howard says he’ll play.
of course which is why
Otis said today he wants to talk to Howard and get a feel of what he wants.
My lil man.....can't tell me god don't exist.
by killa kadafi191 on Dec 2, 2011 12:39 AM EST up reply actions
Half and half.
If Otis likes our package, he’s a Net, plain and simple.
We’re going to trade for him unextended.
by vincecarter4pres on Dec 2, 2011 12:42 AM EST up reply actions
I think Otis likes it
QUESTION: Do you go to Dwight at some point in the next couple of weeks or months and press him for an answer as to his future? Is it an absolute must to know what his intentions are before he becomes a free agent next summer?
OTIS SMITH: ``You have to do what’s in the best interest of your franchise because the future of this franchise is the most important thing at stake here. Dwight has been such a big part of our team and we’ve built around him for seven years. I really hope to get an indication of where he’s going so that our franchise can move forward. It’s tough to do that if we don’t have an inkling of what his plans will be.’’
My lil man.....can't tell me god don't exist.
by killa kadafi191 on Dec 2, 2011 12:43 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
exactly
so dwight has to talk to otis.
Otis wants to talk where he is going.
Dwight wants to be here he will be.
Which is why I said if we sign nene or anyone he isn’t coming.
cause this deal is the best it’s going to get once we sign someone everything changes
My lil man.....can't tell me god don't exist.
by killa kadafi191 on Dec 2, 2011 12:45 AM EST up reply actions
I mean if Dwight wants to go to LA or the Nets and we have the better package he will come here
How could Dwight not want to play with Deron
his choice
we have the better package now.
again if dwight wants to be net how do you turn down this offer if you are otis???
My lil man.....can't tell me god don't exist.
by killa kadafi191 on Dec 2, 2011 12:48 AM EST up reply actions
and Orlando should do this right now so they dont have an average record in March
They do this trade now they have a nice rebuilding package with their own 1st round pick.
true
that’s why if we are going to get him it will be soon, real soon….Lakers cannot take Turk with Howard…plus I don’t think we would need any assurance, since once he got here, Billy could sit them down in the same room and say “you’re both here now ….now here’s your contracts”
sounds like hes given up to me.
Kinda saying" IT’S UP TO DWIGHT!"
In Prokhorov & Billy King WE TRUST.
8 > 3
DH12 OR BUST!
Official Member of the "Travis OutLOL Society". 5 years, 35 Million Dollars worth of lulz.
This is exactly what is giving me hope right now
You would think he would say something like he is going to make a last ditch effort to try and improve the team to Dwight’s liking. But he comes out and says he has to consider every option? By accepting the preposed Nets deal, he is basically getting the perfect rebuilding package, takes them out of their current salary hell.
by JerseysFinest. on Dec 2, 2011 2:23 AM EST up reply actions
It's down to L.A VS Brooklyn for Howard
People say the Knicks, Clippers, etc… all smokescreens.
If Howard wants Dwill and Brooklyn we will get him
If he wants Hollywood he will go to the Lakers.
In Prokhorov & Billy King WE TRUST.
8 > 3
DH12 OR BUST!
Official Member of the "Travis OutLOL Society". 5 years, 35 Million Dollars worth of lulz.
No.
If he wants out, it simply comes down to if Otis like Brook Lopez and salary relief the best, or Gasol or Bynum.
We don’t need Dwight’s blessing.
We will just trade for him and worry about it later, what’s he going to do, walk and sign with the Lakers for $4 a year for 3 seasons?
by vincecarter4pres on Dec 2, 2011 12:46 AM EST up reply actions
looks like Otis wants to work with dwight where he is going
remember they are “friends”
hahahahahaha
My lil man.....can't tell me god don't exist.
by killa kadafi191 on Dec 2, 2011 12:47 AM EST up reply actions
Well, it's ALL on Otis, it's that simple.
I keep drilling it in, just to get everyone to understand.
We will trade for him unextended and take our “chances”.
Plus, even if he wants to extend he’ll wait like Deron is to make more money.
by vincecarter4pres on Dec 2, 2011 12:48 AM EST up reply actions
Wrong
If Dwight says he doesn’t know if he’ll extend in Brooklyn or want to play there , you do the deal anyway and gamble it all that Deron + Dwight together will last.
Section 18, Row 7 at The Rock!
"Your 2010-2011 New Jersey Nets - It Is What It Is"
The NEW BIG 3
d-12, d-will, and a.morrow!!
by TheTrueMANningIsELI on Dec 2, 2011 12:38 AM EST up reply actions
is set in stone IMO.
We just have to go through all the BS first.
Dwill + DH12 is a done deal IMO.
Dwight to the Knicks? how?> Plus the Knicks want cp3
Clippers? Two words= Racist owner
L.A? Only if Howard says that’s the only place he will go.
Stays in Orlando? He would have signed that contract months ago.
In Prokhorov & Billy King WE TRUST.
8 > 3
DH12 OR BUST!
Official Member of the "Travis OutLOL Society". 5 years, 35 Million Dollars worth of lulz.
La
like you said if Howard wants to go there he’ll go there. Play for the Lakers or Nets? Simple choice for anyone who is not a net fan.
yeah but I got to believe he sees what I see
This is not the same Nets of old… we are moving to BK, Brand new arena, Dwill, super rich owner, etc
Lakers have an aging squad and a lot of history.
Kobe is not the same Kobe anymore
Gasol is not the same either.
All Im saying is that I BELIEVE we will sell him on DWILL and BK.
In Prokhorov & Billy King WE TRUST.
8 > 3
DH12 OR BUST!
Official Member of the "Travis OutLOL Society". 5 years, 35 Million Dollars worth of lulz.
People are wildly wrong here.
It is ALL up to Otis.
Dwight has to say he wants out, then it is Otis’ CHOICE, the Nets or LAL.
by vincecarter4pres on Dec 2, 2011 12:47 AM EST up reply actions
I'd throw in LAC too
But I agree, once Dwight says he wants out, it’s Otis’s decision where he ends up.
Critical Success!
All I know is if I see Stephen Graham back with the team, I will turn the tv OFF!
LETS GO NETS!
by JustinNJ on Dec 2, 2011 12:36 AM EST reply actions 2 recs
Niners,Nets,Reds & USC!!!
The Most Interesting Man In The World---->Mikhail Prokhorov!!!
by Kidd2Petrovic on Dec 2, 2011 10:13 AM EST up reply actions
I think the nets wait on Outlaw until
after this season unless the do the Dwight deal….they’ll have to meet the minimum anyway and he MAY play better by being with Dwill AND knowing the expectations and how disapointing he was last yr
No way.
I made a long post about this.
There is no way he’s not amnestied.
by vincecarter4pres on Dec 2, 2011 12:43 AM EST up reply actions
any chance the nets go after both chandler and nene, it would create a nice rotation of bigs
and you throw in williams, i think that can be better than actually having dwight
Dont know if this was brought up
But Marshon will be at nets facility tomorrow.
by djeterfan on Dec 2, 2011 12:41 AM EST via mobile reply actions
of course otis like the package
the nets deal taking hedo and allowing them amnesty arenas will clear up so much money for them.
last year the magics payroll was about 92 million for the year, if they did this deal with the amnesty they would be around 48 million.
Yeah the clippers can offer it up but thats up to sterling to continue to chase instead of going after paul who said he wouldnt mind playing for the clippers with blake.
Otis, this is a business, get under the salary cap and rebuild and hope the rockets pick land you a stud. New jersey has no problem pairing dwight and deron together before they both become free agents. Dont become idiots like Toronto and Cleveland, there is nothing more you can do to improve the mess of a roster.
if you dont want the extra players outside of lopez, okay, sure the t’wolves, raptors, etc will help facilitate giving you michael beasley or ed davis and they get Damion James or Anthony Morrow
The realist keepin it real amongst the surrealists
I was in Baghdad before these little B.G.'s was in they daddy-bags.
by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Dec 2, 2011 1:03 AM EST reply actions
I love
that this offer has a clock on it.
We are not getting jerked around like Denver. The Nets are running this.
we either get dwight or we will build with free agents and move on.
Love this right here.
My lil man.....can't tell me god don't exist.
by killa kadafi191 on Dec 2, 2011 1:08 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
yeah, BK is letting it be known he will go the Bulls route
if Otis doesnt pick up the phone quick enough. I dont know why Otis is fooling himself. Its like he wants dwight to take a walk of shame and come out and admit he was lying through his teeth about wanting to stay post 2009 season
too manu emotions in this. its a business. flip the product while it has value. You already went out and try to get all the corners(spending wildly) without any good product(quality roster). now dump the corners and get some product. would you rather have a 65 million loser roster without dwight or a 50 million roster with lopez and co?
How else are you going to dump hedo and arenas in less than a month like this?
The realist keepin it real amongst the surrealists
I was in Baghdad before these little B.G.'s was in they daddy-bags.
by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Dec 2, 2011 1:15 AM EST up reply actions
Whoa, whoa slow your roll
This isn’t a mafia movie. The Nets or the Magic aren’t ‘running’ anything substantial yet. And even if they were, I doubt the Nets would jeopardize their negotiating position by trying to be all gung-ho because they got burned in the Carmelo deal.
nets can build like the bulls or Otis can pick up the phone
after someone gives him an Ipad with this:
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The realist keepin it real amongst the surrealists
I was in Baghdad before these little B.G.'s was in they daddy-bags.
by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Dec 2, 2011 1:20 AM EST up reply actions
wow u really went there hahahahahah
My lil man.....can't tell me god don't exist.
by killa kadafi191 on Dec 2, 2011 1:22 AM EST up reply actions
Haha, Jeru trending?
Russillo switched his avi to him on Twitter with his sig as “My mind spray/my 9 spray”
by vincecarter4pres on Dec 2, 2011 2:56 PM EST up reply actions
Billy King said himself
he will not allow the same directions that happen last year happen this year and again this deal will not get better than it is right now.
If they say no to this what will they say yes to?
again once we sign nene or chandler that kills the current deal thats being rumored
My lil man.....can't tell me god don't exist.
by killa kadafi191 on Dec 2, 2011 1:20 AM EST up reply actions
i wonder what happens
hmmm Orlando to rebuild or choose LA
Best case for us to CP3 to ok the deal to GSW or Clippers
what i see
otis being too scared but by all-star weekend has no choice but to deal dwight out west to the staples center
paul will not get his knicks wish and Hornets will sell him to the highest bidder, likely to the staples center
now if they are on the same team in the staples center? not sure
The realist keepin it real amongst the surrealists
I was in Baghdad before these little B.G.'s was in they daddy-bags.
by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Dec 2, 2011 1:26 AM EST up reply actions
alright if he wants chris bosh part 2 go ahead
nets dont need dwight to win. want dwight to help them win? yes. but if BK can put a roster around Iverson, i trust him being able to learn from his mistakes and build a solid roster around Deron and Lopez
The realist keepin it real amongst the surrealists
I was in Baghdad before these little B.G.'s was in they daddy-bags.
by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Dec 2, 2011 1:23 AM EST up reply actions
Look, i want howard on the Nets bad….however building around Deron and Lopez is not a terrible idea either…..Nene would be a great fit on the Nets, you keep all of your picks for a possible trade for a wing, and you still have cap room. but im not going to lie, his health issues scare the hell out of me.
Right now he(Otis) is probably inquiring about other teams players and who is available.
He will eventually realize that he doesn’t have the assets to turn the current roster of the Magic into a contender and Howard wont be signing a contract with the Orlando Magic.
Will Nets do it without extension?
In the event of a trade to any team, Howard would have the choice of a deal that includes a contract extension that could put him back on the free-agent market in the summer of 2014 or a trade without an extension that would preserve his right to opt out of the 2012-13 season on his current deal and become a free agent on July 1, 2012.
Hell yeah
Ive been saying that for awhile. The ultimate gamble.
Section 18, Row 7 at The Rock!
"Your 2010-2011 New Jersey Nets - It Is What It Is"
it certainly sounds like something
Mikhail would be willing to roll the dice on.
by Chakroot on Dec 2, 2011 8:46 AM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
Do we really view it as a gamble, though?
Once you have Williams and Howard together, and the hard part is over (playing in Jersey), there’s no feasible reason for the two to split.
This is why Howard doesn’t need to be demanded to be traded to the Nets; he just have to give the impression that he’s almost surely leaving.
by Dopeness on Dec 2, 2011 9:31 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
It's the only way it will happen.
Even if Dwight wants to extend he’ll opt out like Deron to get true max.
by vincecarter4pres on Dec 2, 2011 2:57 PM EST up reply actions
I am wondering who is going to play PF if the Dwight deal goes thru??? Hump? AK47?
by power_njerz on Dec 2, 2011 3:49 AM EST via mobile reply actions
ummmm lets see im thinking Hedo
speaking before you think can have severe consequences, however doing it in reverse can have beautiful results!
Magic would have to send Justin Harper back in the deal.
by power_njerz on Dec 2, 2011 4:38 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
OK... this is my reasoning on this whole "fight for dwight" deal.
anybody ever stop and think… why did the (ONLY) offer for D12 get leaked?
we all know that otis and billy are good friends. maybe this was billy’s way of letting otis know “look this is what we are offering” you have till the 9th to let us know whats up. if not we wont re-live the whole carmelo debacle. the nets as an organization will move forward, and sign ne-ne, and who ever else we damn well please.
by doing this billy shows that he’s learned from his mistakes with the melo-drama.
now otis knows whats on the table, he has 9 days to decide.
i have a feeling that otis has talked to dwights agent already, and magics management knows something…. which explains why otis is all of a sudden open to trading dwight.
Thats just my thinking on the whole situation ……but we will see on the 9th
speaking before you think can have severe consequences, however doing it in reverse can have beautiful results!
does it matter who leaked it?
speaking before you think can have severe consequences, however doing it in reverse can have beautiful results!
Nets leaked it to let the world know they are big players on the big stage now
side effect is that they threw Lopez under the bus like they did Favors last year.
2010-2011 = acquire an All-Star via cap space as Thorn himself said
2011-2012 = make the playoffs without hindering future flexibility
2012 off-season = sign the second All-Star
2012-2013 = make a run for the championship
Mission accomplished thus far.
i know, hence the "good friends" mention
maybe it was the nets way of them saying
“Hey look what we’re offering, try and top that!”
speaking before you think can have severe consequences, however doing it in reverse can have beautiful results!
to the rest of the league
speaking before you think can have severe consequences, however doing it in reverse can have beautiful results!
What "mistakes" did Billy make in the Melo drama
He got rid of players he never planned to commit to long term and played the Knicks for fools, having them send 4 starters
by Anthony Perez on Dec 2, 2011 10:11 AM EST up reply actions
On top of all this
The union has reformed. NI what is the next step?
Negotiating the remainder of the CBA
WhIch kicks off today at 12pm, and should last a few days.
by nynjlawyer on Dec 2, 2011 9:34 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
then the ratification next Thursday
"It's as sweet as it ever was, I'll tell you. Now, hopefully, we started something and we can win some more championships, but we're going to enjoy this one right now. Have a little champagne." --Julius Erving, May 12, 1976, ABA champion Nets locker room.
Actually
I think it more means that Orlando hasn’t given into the idea that they need to rebuild, so the Nets are moving on. Once they move on, we have the same package everyone else does: pieces to do a salary swap, but no dumping of bad contracts can be done.
Section 18, Row 7 at The Rock!
"Your 2010-2011 New Jersey Nets - It Is What It Is"
If we acquire Nene now and then trade him to the Magic in a package with Lopez b3fore the trade deadline,why couldnt we absorb Turks contract?
I think king is going to do that.
The Magic get back 2 bigs some filler and picks. Perfect rebuilding parts.
Nachbar? only if he signs for the minimum and is coming off the bench.
Grant Hill is intriguing but his age worries me. Last season he put up the same #‘s as Prince but with better %’s. If he came cheap go for it.
The lack of mentions of AK47 must mean Deron doesnt like they guy.
That's the big issue
You bring in Nene/Chandler, it pretty much eliminates the chance of bringing in Hedo to save Orlando financially. But, if you’re BK, you can’t just sit there and wait for Orlando.
I was always a big fan of Boki, I’d love to see him as a Net again. Grant Hill is also a consummate veteran who would be an excellent locker room presence.
by ZR on Dec 2, 2011 9:30 AM EST up reply actions
We won't have the cap to absorb Turk
Section 18, Row 7 at The Rock!
"Your 2010-2011 New Jersey Nets - It Is What It Is"
We will if we include whatever free agent we signed
by BrooklynNets on Dec 2, 2011 10:22 AM EST up reply actions
can we even
trade someone who we just acquired via Free agency?
not sure how this cba works.
by pope of lofe on Dec 2, 2011 11:35 AM EST up reply actions
i think 90 days no trade provision for newly signed free agents
The realist keepin it real amongst the surrealists
I was in Baghdad before these little B.G.'s was in they daddy-bags.
by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Dec 2, 2011 8:05 PM EST up reply actions
No thats wrong
So the Nets can’t sit and wait. They must be aggressive. And getting Nene or Chandler does not negate the shot at Howard. Should the Nets amnesty clause Travis Outlaw ($7 million this year) or renounce Kris Humphries ($6 million cap hold) — and they don’t need to do both — they would have ample funds.
Read more: http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/nets/netting_confidence_u102Z4UihzSUbJ8EEKv2lI#ixzz1fNTSNAWo
Nets can sign Nene, Dump Outlaw, Resign Hump and sign a SF for a small deal. Thats where the Grant Hill and Nachbar names are coming up. They are going to address the bigs 1st.
Grant Hill is 38yrs old!
They need to negotiate with China and get Chandler over here!
I still think AK47 fits best but Deron played with the dude and must know his weaknesses.
I dont think Prince will take a small deal either.
This is where the Farmar trade comes into play. King is going to have to be clever to get us a quality SF.
Lopez
Nene
?
Morrow
Deron
Just sign AK47 please!!!!
Yup
Big are harder to come by, while they can use the MLE on a SF or trade for one. I want Hump back badly. He is a true PF and an elite rebounder and the perfect third big to go with lopez and Nene/chandler
by Jack Handy Jr on Dec 2, 2011 7:15 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Deron / farmar / gaines
Morrow / brooks / mle
G.hill / d.James / mle
Nene / hump / j.will
Lopez / Nene / petro
Nene – 4/56 (13 starting)
Hump – 4/25 (6 start)
Hill – 2/6 (3 start, 2nd year an option)
Mini mle – ?
by Jack Handy Jr on Dec 2, 2011 7:23 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Mini MLE
Who would take it?
Vc
Shawne Williams
Desean Stevenson
Josh Howard
by Jack Handy Jr on Dec 2, 2011 7:37 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Josh Howard to me is the real low-risk high-reward opportunity
He played his best basketball under Avery (like Brandon Bass) and if he could be signed for the vet minimum, it could be a steal.
by ZR on Dec 2, 2011 9:32 AM EST up reply actions
Do not agree
The Nets won’t give up on dwight as long as he’s available. The nets can trade for him until the trade deadline, all they are saying now, is if you want cap space instead of players, now is the time.
by Jack Handy Jr on Dec 2, 2011 7:12 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
this is a poker game
if they sign Chandler or Nene, the possibility of them taking on Turkoglu’s contract goes out the window. They could still, in 60 days, trade Chandler or Nene plus picks and kids for Howard. But at that point, no Turkoglu.
"It's as sweet as it ever was, I'll tell you. Now, hopefully, we started something and we can win some more championships, but we're going to enjoy this one right now. Have a little champagne." --Julius Erving, May 12, 1976, ABA champion Nets locker room.
by Net Income on Dec 2, 2011 9:47 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I've been saying this for like 4 days...
It’s brilliant.
by Anthony Perez on Dec 2, 2011 11:44 AM EST up reply actions
Getting Nene does not necessarily giving up on Dwight
It’ll be more complicated but not impossible.
The Nets, still including Outlaw and Marshon’s cap hold, are at around 41 million, with the salary cap expected at 58.
Let’s say Nene is signed to an upper limit of a starting salary of 14 which, with increases, would total 60 over 4 years (he had rejected a 50/4yr extension). That would leave a cap space of 3 million. Amnesty Outlaw and that rises to 10. The salaries of Lopez and the rest of the current Nets not named Deron total around 18 million. 10+18 is equal to the 28 of Dwight and Hedo.
So the Nets could still try a Denver-NYK type of deal, using Brook and a collection of Nets players (Morrow, Brooks, with Farmar, etc) plus the 10M cap space to absorb Hedo. Plus the picks.
That would give the Nets a big Big 3 of DWill, Dwight and Nene. Plus Hedo. Then get an MLE player. Fill out the rest with minimum salaries.That would be a pretty tough team to leave for DWill and Dwight and a contender this season.
by stenpoint on Dec 2, 2011 7:19 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
In your opinion..
Do you think Nene and Dwight’s games will mesh together well or do you think they are not a good fit together play-wise? Nene is a poor rebounder so Dwight would offset that but would they get in each others way on offense?
by WR3 on Dec 2, 2011 7:22 AM EST up reply actions
It will be the best frontcourt in the NBA
They would complement each other perfectly. Dwight has also wanted a frontline partner, long been stuck with soft jump-shooting tall guys or undersized bigs.
Jeeeez!!!..
Ive never followed Nene much being that he plays in DEN but wow!..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ays9bZnKXkA
Onviously this is just highlights but damn that guy and Dwight in the same front court would be ridiculous!!! He plays aggresive. Deron with those guys would have the time of his life every game.
Just catch.. and destroy!
by WR3 on Dec 2, 2011 7:44 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Great passer too!
That big three would compliment each other so well…
Damn let me not get my hopes up..
by WR3 on Dec 2, 2011 7:46 AM EST up reply actions
Maybe he could even teach Dwight some things like not playing volleyball when swatting shots and learning to keep the ball in play so his team can benefit from the block. Nene seems to do that quite well
by WR3 on Dec 2, 2011 7:49 AM EST up reply actions
Yeah Petro was right
said his passing is underrated. There were some beauties in that mix.
"It's as sweet as it ever was, I'll tell you. Now, hopefully, we started something and we can win some more championships, but we're going to enjoy this one right now. Have a little champagne." --Julius Erving, May 12, 1976, ABA champion Nets locker room.
by Net Income on Dec 2, 2011 7:52 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
100% agreed
People who knock Nene don’t realize how good he is because they haven’t had a real chance to see him play.
He can do so much more than what Chandler can do.
by ZR on Dec 2, 2011 9:36 AM EST up reply actions
Voted for Chandler
But leaning toward Nene now… I assume Nene = no Dwight. Nene would be a much much better compliment to Brook Lopez and a better “natural” PF than either BLo or Chandler would be.
while I haven't seen a TON of his PT...
Something else to consider is how often the ball was in melo’s hands on offense, and how little defense melo played on the other end.
Made Nene’s life harder on both ends of the court, so his numbers/success could see a spike
by Chakroot on Dec 2, 2011 9:49 AM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
had great seats for Nugget game last year
was very impressed with his game.
"It's as sweet as it ever was, I'll tell you. Now, hopefully, we started something and we can win some more championships, but we're going to enjoy this one right now. Have a little champagne." --Julius Erving, May 12, 1976, ABA champion Nets locker room.
Whatever...
I’m not that pumped on Nene. 14/8 and will be 30 soon, but I guess we gotta get what we can get.
Grant Hill? Lol.
by JackTr1pper on Dec 2, 2011 7:31 AM EST via mobile reply actions
If no Dwight then i want Chandler
If we do a trade for Dwight then i still want Nene with his passing ability and versatility he would compliment Dwight like crazy. I cant even picture Bosh AKA Mr Softness trying to defend that Brazilian Hulk SMH Scary
Any chance that the Nets are interested in Nene regardless of getting Dwight or not? Or is it that if they get Dwight Nene is off our list?
by WR3 on Dec 2, 2011 8:20 AM EST up reply actions
It would still be possible
A couple posts up I tried to show why getting Nene doesn’t necessarily mean giving up on Dwight. Also means we can still get Nene even if the amazing happens and Dwight gets traded first for the rumoured Nets package.
Once Dwight and Hedo are absorbed by our cap space, that still leaves us a $15 million collection of role players of varying value, none of whom are on long-term deals. The Nets could trade them in chunks, dumping good with not so good parts on under-the-cap teams. For example, a package of Morrow, one of the league’s best pure shooters, with Farmar and James, and then Marshon, a promising prospect, with Petro and Gaines. That creates enough cap space to steal Nene, or if Denver doesn’t want to lose him for nothing, they could cooperate and get our role players led by Morrow and Brooks.
And yes, a Howard-Nene combo would be deliciously sinful.
I’ve gone back and forth on Nene and Chandler but
I think Nene would be the more versatile pick.
Chandler would be the absolute best complement for Brook, if we are to keep him, but would be rather redundant with Howard. Nene would be a much better match for Howard and although not as good a complement to Brook as Chandler, a Nene-Brook tandem can still compete with the best of them; DWill can also have a choice of two bigs on who to run a high pick and roll. Of course, a Nene-Howard tandem would destroy any combo out there.
Seriously
I mean i cant even imagine the MIA bigs dealing with the aggressiveness and sheer brute power of that duo. Not to mention that Nene has a great passing ability so Dwight would benefit even more.
sigh*** were dreaming now. I highly doubt the Nets would still target Nene if they get Dwight.
by WR3 on Dec 2, 2011 9:27 AM EST up reply actions
more like in the click of a phone call
"It's as sweet as it ever was, I'll tell you. Now, hopefully, we started something and we can win some more championships, but we're going to enjoy this one right now. Have a little champagne." --Julius Erving, May 12, 1976, ABA champion Nets locker room.
Putting this in perspective
when was the last time TWO of the game’s top big men were said to be waiting on the NETS?
If all this is as it is portrayed, this is big news.
"It's as sweet as it ever was, I'll tell you. Now, hopefully, we started something and we can win some more championships, but we're going to enjoy this one right now. Have a little champagne." --Julius Erving, May 12, 1976, ABA champion Nets locker room.
by Net Income on Dec 2, 2011 7:54 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
Agree
You have to figure players are foaming at the mouth to play with Deron, in Brooklyn for prokhorov and their agents are probably eager to form relationships with the Nets as well.
I just wish the free agent crop was stronger this year. It’s deep but not very strong at the top.
by Jack Handy Jr on Dec 2, 2011 7:58 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Mavericks center and his camp were "waiting to see what the Nets want to do."
I’ve never seen that ever as a Nets fan and Mav’s are the defending champs.
This is all nice…but hope we actually sign Chandler or Nene.
@ HowardBeckNYT
Deal done, source says. NBA is back.
-November 26th, 3:17 am.
reservations on Nene
Tyson Chandler provides us with a good defense presence but the thing is the Nets need offense. Our offense at some stages of last season litergic, and many times out scored. Nene provides us with that offense, Chandler is a good player but I’m not sure how many seasons he can remain that high flyer dunker and his injury prone.
by Blkswizz on Dec 2, 2011 8:01 AM EST via mobile reply actions
our offense was much better with deron
by Jack Handy Jr on Dec 2, 2011 8:02 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Utah is shopping their big men
Not interested in Jefferson, but Milsap is intriguing…. Esp as a third big.
by Jack Handy Jr on Dec 2, 2011 8:02 AM EST via mobile reply actions
Utah is putting a lot on Favors and Kanter
If they do and dont get value back, they will be mediocre for a long time.
"It's as sweet as it ever was, I'll tell you. Now, hopefully, we started something and we can win some more championships, but we're going to enjoy this one right now. Have a little champagne." --Julius Erving, May 12, 1976, ABA champion Nets locker room.
Saw this on Rotoworld from a Zach Lowe article
Talking about a “loophole” where the Knicks can get CP3 and have him still get his money. The only loophole would be an NBA owned team trading him for the dog ish that is on the NYK roster. I swear if this trade ever went down, I may stop paying attention to basketball.
The idea is relatively simple. He would get traded to the Knicks with a behind the scenes agreement to re-sign with them once his current contract has expired. Since he would be traded along with his Bird rights, he would be allowed to sign a five-year, $100 million extension while the Knicks stay under the cap. The risk for the Knicks is that he double-crosses them and signs elsewhere. We’re putting our early money on this happening, and while we have reservations about his knee a move to N.Y. would put him into top-3 draft status.
I love the Nets...too bad they don't love me...
Funny Thought for the Day
We need to send Billy King a weird naked indian in his dream to send him to go have a word with Jim Morrision to make sure he follows through on Dwight Howard, “if you book them… they will come” in regards Brooklyn obviously ;)
by N.Ireland Nets Fan on Dec 2, 2011 8:15 AM EST reply actions
boki!
boki can play. i hope he comes back. dwill will love him
That was a long time ago
Still want to see what he’s capable of now.
by ZR on Dec 2, 2011 9:38 AM EST up reply actions
There is no possible way the Knicks can trade for Paul
They have nothing to trade for him
Heck, this offer is better:
Chris Kaman and Al- Aminu for Paul
At least the Hornets get a top 10 pick back. The Knicks can trade no 1st round pick before 2018!!!
also better
Rondo and Jermaine O’Neal for Paul
Heck, many teams can get Paul and dare him to walk
With his injury history… would he risk taking a one year deal with the Knicks before signing a long-term one?
All these rumors...
…and the one that I find most exciting is for (besides D12) is for this guy:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uS0OMUjyQw8&feature=related
If I can just hide, the sinner inside, and keep him denied.
How sweet life would be, if I could be free, from the sinner in me.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2VRPeIEopJ8
@ HowardBeckNYT
Deal done, source says. NBA is back.
-November 26th, 3:17 am.
Who DIDN'T love Boki??
Dude was awesome for the time he was here. He’d be a decent wing coming off the bench. Obviously not a starter.
I don't think the Nets are projecting him as a starter
But he’s capable of providing valuable minutes off the bench.
by ZR on Dec 2, 2011 9:39 AM EST up reply actions
It has happened before
The top PFs were waiting fo r the nets back in the day…
Swift, Marshall and SAR all were waiting on Rod.
And we ended up with Marc Jackson!!!
those guys sucked…even back in the day. Mark Jackon rofl!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RVueeSqnhzw
@ HowardBeckNYT
Deal done, source says. NBA is back.
-November 26th, 3:17 am.
Yes...
But point is top FA were waiting on nets…even if they sucked.
VC saved us…that was a terrible time.
@ HowardBeckNYT
Deal done, source says. NBA is back.
-November 26th, 3:17 am.
by Andy. on Dec 2, 2011 8:52 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
At the end of the day...
VC just made for some good highlight films. His games and demeanor was never that of a champion…even if he was and is a very classy guy.
by rundmc00 on Dec 2, 2011 9:02 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Here we go again
You see how many games he single handedly won for Nets? May not have come trough in playoffs as we all wanted, but discount everything else. It’s ignorant.
Ric Bucher reported that he's heard that Deron Williams and Dwight Howard have discussed playing together in the future. - Kevin Baumer
by Top Whodi on Dec 2, 2011 9:52 AM EST via iPhone app up reply actions 3 recs
He was arguably the Nets best player the whole time he was here.
by vincecarter4pres on Dec 2, 2011 3:05 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
no arguably, he was
Kidd and Rj dealt with a ton of injuries while the three were together. After K-mart left, that next season had disaster all over it for the next 4 or so years until VC came.
I remember how when T-mac was used as a point-forward when Adleman first got to Houston, then Frank started plugging Vince in as the Point Guard so he could set people up.
wish he used his post game more instead of settling for so many jumpers. not many people could guard Vince in the post or keep him out. he beat himself a lot.
The realist keepin it real amongst the surrealists
I was in Baghdad before these little B.G.'s was in they daddy-bags.
by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Dec 2, 2011 8:14 PM EST up reply actions
Rod said it
VC saved us when we were headed back to sucking.
Hands down the 2nd Best Net in the franchise’s NBA era.
he also saved the bottom line
5,000 new season tickets sold the summer after his arrival.
"It's as sweet as it ever was, I'll tell you. Now, hopefully, we started something and we can win some more championships, but we're going to enjoy this one right now. Have a little champagne." --Julius Erving, May 12, 1976, ABA champion Nets locker room.
We were a lottery team with Kidd and RJ and a bunch of scrubs when VC came in, RJ goes down and we still make the playoffs thanks to VC.
With nene, our offense will be amazing...
Hayes over hump if he is willing.
I still like prince although he has flaws.
Mle for deswaun or some bad ass wing defender.
Still not worth it
Better options out there with better attitudes.
by ZR on Dec 2, 2011 10:43 AM EST up reply actions
I think Nene would really like the Nets. Obviously, he knows about Dwill and BRK.
But, New York/New Jersey has a high Brazilian population. He would feel more at home, having all those fans root for him.
@ HowardBeckNYT
Deal done, source says. NBA is back.
-November 26th, 3:17 am.
Ferry St
right by the Rock
If I can just hide, the sinner inside, and keep him denied.
How sweet life would be, if I could be free, from the sinner in me.
by BrooNets on Dec 2, 2011 9:05 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Oh my God
I hadn’t even thought of that.
"It's as sweet as it ever was, I'll tell you. Now, hopefully, we started something and we can win some more championships, but we're going to enjoy this one right now. Have a little champagne." --Julius Erving, May 12, 1976, ABA champion Nets locker room.
the entire Iron Bound would come out to the Rock
For the Nets farewell tour!
by Chakroot on Dec 2, 2011 9:06 AM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
I can hear Marv Albert saying
“Nene with the Brazilian Facial”
lol
@ HowardBeckNYT
Deal done, source says. NBA is back.
-November 26th, 3:17 am.
Thankfully, Marv Albert is no longer with us.
Right?
(And that’s an Eagle line, IIRC)
or, (after a block/crucial rebound)
“Nene, giving the glass a Brazilian Waxing, keeping it clean and bare”
The realist keepin it real amongst the surrealists
I was in Baghdad before these little B.G.'s was in they daddy-bags.
by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Dec 2, 2011 8:20 PM EST up reply actions
Netsdaily says we’re reached out to McRoberts…Nice.
I feel like Nets have contacted everyone :)
@ HowardBeckNYT
Deal done, source says. NBA is back.
-November 26th, 3:17 am.
Nice choice for 3rd big (maybe at MLE)
Would be amazing if trader Billy could pull something off for a better SF than what is available.
terrific passer
"It's as sweet as it ever was, I'll tell you. Now, hopefully, we started something and we can win some more championships, but we're going to enjoy this one right now. Have a little champagne." --Julius Erving, May 12, 1976, ABA champion Nets locker room.
by Net Income on Dec 2, 2011 9:50 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Duke connection
no doubt would like him as the 4th big(if hayes or moute is 3rd)
The realist keepin it real amongst the surrealists
I was in Baghdad before these little B.G.'s was in they daddy-bags.
by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Dec 2, 2011 8:21 PM EST up reply actions
Grant Hill?
Does he have anything left in the tank? He must be 100 years old. I wouldn’t sign him for more than a year. I’d rather have Tay Prince. If Nene can really play PF, then I am afraid that if we get him, that we won’t res-sign THE HUMPH. But Nene is clearly a better player. Can’t wait for the fun to begin. Billy King better have plenty of coffee on hand, because he isn’t going to get much sleep.
Paul from Sunny Delray Beach, Florida
remember Hill
had a lingering foot problem most of his career he has less miles on those legs than a normal NBA player.
It's about building a winning culture
Hill would do wonders for this team.
by ZR on Dec 2, 2011 9:42 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
For the right price, I'd sign him
He can score, has great intangibles and a superb basketball mind, and he’s healthy: he’s played 80+ games the last three years, and 65+ the two previous.
Sign Grant Hill and Battier, keep DWill—we’d have a smart, mature, competitive base that would strike me as like the Spurs.
And then see if he’d like to be groomed for an Asst Coach position in the future.
Boki tweet about dwill
Who actually read Boki tweet? I’m guessing Nets want to get Howard before the season starts.
by uptown4784 on Dec 2, 2011 9:12 AM EST via mobile reply actions
Bring VC Back
He’s worth atleast the MLE
by iambryan on Dec 2, 2011 9:12 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
no he’s not worth that much
@ HowardBeckNYT
Deal done, source says. NBA is back.
-November 26th, 3:17 am.
I’m glad sgs are being mentioned because Morrow and Brooks aren’t enough.IMO
@ HowardBeckNYT
Deal done, source says. NBA is back.
-November 26th, 3:17 am.
82games raves about butler’s ’10-11
by ShawnG on Dec 2, 2011 9:24 AM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
Morrow definitely is a 6th man type of player.
Brooks will have to show us what he’s got, but i’m excited about his potential. We still need a SG that can attack the basket and draw doubles
Agreed
Brooks could be a diamond in the rough. But we’ll have to wait and see.
Hearing that Brooks was initially Providence’s defensive stopper then had to become their go-to on offense shows that he’s versatile enough to project as a starter in the NBA.
by ZR on Dec 2, 2011 9:43 AM EST up reply actions
I forgot who asked
why I think Dwight trade won’t go down if it doesn’t happen now. oh yea good morning to all.
one this is the best offer the nets can offer. Orlando would not have to take any matching contracts back. they basically give up hedo for nothing.
now once we do make a signing that new player would likely have to be part of the deal.
so Orlando who is trading their star would now have to take back a new contract of player signed long term. again when teams trade their stars they are looking for cap relief .
I also believe King has learn from the melo distraction. this season is too important to have the distraction of who is getting traded and who will be moved. John Paxson learned from this when admitted the Kobe rumors destroyed his team and distracted them. He killed the Melo rumors on day one. I expect King to do the same thing. this season is too important.
again the deal won’t get better than it is right now
My lil man.....can't tell me god don't exist.
Oh man, I love Josh McBob!
The dude has some ball skills for a big man. I’ve seen him throw underhand bullet passes like CP3. He can be wild at times, but I’m actually a big fan. He’s fun to watch.
Look
Brook Lopez \ Nene Hilario \ Johan Petro
Nene Hilario \ Josh McRoberts \ Jordan Williams
Tayshaun Prince \ Damion James \ Josh Howard
Anthony Morrow \ Marshon Brooks \ Josh Howard
Deron Williams \ Jordan Farmar \ Sundiata Gaines
"I think I’m the best point guard in the league. No reason. I just think I’m the best.’’-Deron Williams.
by JJ25 on Dec 2, 2011 9:39 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
Howard will give Damion James a run for his money
But that’s a good looking team IMO. It doesn’t have as much star power as having Dwight Howard but that is a very efficient basketball team.
by ZR on Dec 2, 2011 9:44 AM EST up reply actions
i think you can squeeze AAA or Moute in there
also if they want to bury petro further down the bench, i wonder if they would consider Joel Przybilla for cheap(like LLE cheap)?
The realist keepin it real amongst the surrealists
I was in Baghdad before these little B.G.'s was in they daddy-bags.
by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Dec 2, 2011 8:24 PM EST up reply actions
WoW!!
Lets say we sign Nene only.
Will we still have enough room to sign Howard next year?
I guess Lopez’ contract would be the issue here.
Dwill, Nene, DHOw and Lopez is that even possible.
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Almost enough space for Dwight next year, if
Nene is the only one we sign to a multi-year deal; any other new signings would have to be one-year deals.
For the 2012 offseason, that would leave Nene’s salary (I’m assuming 14ish) and the expirings of Morrow, Farmar, Petro, Brooks togeher also around 14. Outlaw renounced by then. That’s 28 committed for 2012, and with a conservative estimate of the cap remaining at 58, we need to dump one of the 3-4 mil contracts (one of Morrow/Farmar/Petro) to bring the cap space up to 36 — enough for re-signing DWill and signing Dwight.
No Brook though, we can’t be that greedy. Rights to him will have to be renounced once DWill and Dwight commit.
So Nene can be our big signing, the rest of the team stays, and no other multi-year deals.
How about trade Lopez (plus others) in the off-season for JSmoove
Dwill
M Brooks
JSmoove
Nene
DH12
by brooklynnetsgohard on Dec 2, 2011 11:00 AM EST up reply actions
My bad; JSmoove not a SF
Same deal, but for a stud SF
Dwill
M Brooks
Stud SF (trade)
Nene
DH12 (FA signing)
by brooklynnetsgohard on Dec 2, 2011 11:04 AM EST up reply actions
Still doesn't work
Nets don’t have assets or the cap space.
by BrooklynNets on Dec 2, 2011 11:07 AM EST up reply actions
That’s why I’m an obsessed fan and not a GM!!
by brooklynnetsgohard on Dec 2, 2011 11:13 AM EST up reply actions
Yormark is probably pushing hard for nene too...
Check out the funniest person on youtube Edbassmaster: http://www.youtube.com/user/edbassmaster
Yankees>Rest of MLB
They Finally called up Baby Jesus
...and working on that Portuguese page on the website.
"It's as sweet as it ever was, I'll tell you. Now, hopefully, we started something and we can win some more championships, but we're going to enjoy this one right now. Have a little champagne." --Julius Erving, May 12, 1976, ABA champion Nets locker room.
by Net Income on Dec 2, 2011 10:14 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
If Nene is #1 on the Nets list
It means he’s #1 on DWill’s list. He gets to “pick his players” if you recall.
Anyone still not want Nene?
Section 18, Row 7 at The Rock!
"Your 2010-2011 New Jersey Nets - It Is What It Is"
by eLonepb on Dec 2, 2011 10:03 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
Never said I didn't want Nene
but I’d rather have Chandler.
God, I hope we don’t give Nene a max deal.
"It's not a lie, if you believe it" - George Costanza
"Silence is only golden when you can't think of a good answer" - Muhammad Ali
with our luck
we’ll have to give nene a max deal and then dwill will walk anyway
at least well have nene then
who knows in a bigger role he might show leadership
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Yankees>Rest of MLB
They Finally called up Baby Jesus
by BrettGardnerLF on Dec 2, 2011 10:13 AM EST up reply actions
was Mr Magoo blind in hindsight as well?
by Chakroot on Dec 2, 2011 10:15 AM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
Still don't see Chandler as a good fit.
To me, Nene is a perfect fit.
Here’s something that I’m sure others have thought of, but I have yet to express: Could we see King just sign Nene and then look to add a couple one-year deals? The Nets could, conceivably, still have room for Howard next summer if they were to sign Nene to a slightly below market-value deal. If Nene is truly about winning and not money (which is almost never the case) then he’d be willing to take a slightly smaller deal knowing that it gives the Nets a much better chance to compete in the near future.
if he goes after older vets like prince, hill, battier, howard, azubuike, etc then yes i can see one year deals
but some of these RFA’s are worthy of throwing a decent offer sheet at. We know next year all the RFA’s are going to get near max money. why not try and get two or three this year for the price of one next year?
The realist keepin it real amongst the surrealists
I was in Baghdad before these little B.G.'s was in they daddy-bags.
by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Dec 2, 2011 8:27 PM EST up reply actions
I think Dwight would be higher on the list
But it’s risky business, giving a star player everything they ask for
by Chakroot on Dec 2, 2011 10:09 AM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
agree eLone
also, DWill coming from the west. He’s seen Nene up close plenty of times as Utah and Denver were in the same division. DWill knows how Nene can help on both sides of the floor.
One thing i’ve always noticed about Nene, he is a great off the ball big man. Meaning, he doesn’t stand still. He moves great without the ball and puts himself in great positions for high % shots. With a pg like Deron, that skill set is key.
by domininaldo1981 on Dec 2, 2011 11:56 AM EST up reply actions
what is the max for nene?
am i correct that he can only sign a 4 year deal? for how much?
im all for signing nene for 12-14 mil a year as long as
the other contracts are for one year or 2 year with a team option
Jeffrey Sutton 2.0
I just saw
that Nene Mix
I starting picturing a lot of Stocken Maloning if we pair Dwill with Nene. If he can have the same chemistry Dwill had with Boozer and the DWight deal doesnt go through, This might be a NO BRAINER.
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off topic
but this logo is sick for this year
http://www.nba.com/nets/news/View_from_the_Couch.html
by VC3 on Dec 2, 2011 10:22 AM EST reply actions 3 recs
i hope they use that as like a patch on our unis somewhere
Check out the funniest person on youtube Edbassmaster: http://www.youtube.com/user/edbassmaster
Yankees>Rest of MLB
They Finally called up Baby Jesus
by BrettGardnerLF on Dec 2, 2011 10:27 AM EST up reply actions
I hope it shows up on the court, where the old "NJ" logos were by the 3pt line
Dr. J~Super Buck~Draz~JKidd~Deron
GET HIM!!
In addition to Chi & Wash, Bos, NJ, Den, NO, SA & ATL have had multiple conversations with reps for Josh Howard, sources say.
Broussard
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has anyone heard anything on where
Prince may end up? Think I heard something about the clippers..
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Yankees>Rest of MLB
They Finally called up Baby Jesus
after flip flopping between Chandler and Nene
I’ve decided Nene is the best fit for this team. Everyone brings up great points about each player but we have to think along the lines that DHoward isn’t coming here. Nene, Brook and DWill is a great start.
I love the Nets...too bad they don't love me...
by BEB on Dec 2, 2011 10:24 AM EST via iPhone app reply actions
Who would you rather have ?
Howard / Nene
or
Howard / Chandler
Because if we land Howard it’s Brook Lopez that’s going to Orlando…
the thought of Howard and Nene
Makes me moist
I love the Nets...too bad they don't love me...
by BEB on Dec 2, 2011 10:35 AM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
Had that problem once.
Turned out to be glandular.
by Coach Joe on Dec 2, 2011 10:44 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Doesn’t seem like we get Howard if we get Nene or Chandler.
Dealing with either of Nene or Chandler seems to be about:
a) actually getting either of the players
b) pushing Orlando to make a decision
I don’t see both happening.
Don't understand your reasoning....
What does landing Nene or Chandler have to do with trading Lopez for Howard ?
The ability to take on Turkoglu’s contract. That’s the best bargaining chip we have to pair with Lopez.
2011-12: $10,600,000
2012-13: $11,400,000
2012-13: $12,200,000 (Player Option)
Call me crazy, but I think he takes that PO.
It's not a player option.
It’s a $6 million dollar guarantee that the team chooses on.
by vincecarter4pres on Dec 2, 2011 3:21 PM EST up reply actions
PG:Deron/Farmar/Gaines
SG:Morrow/Josh Howard/Marshon Brooks
SF:Andrei Kirlenko/Damion James
PF:Nene/McRoberts
C: Lopez/Petro
Check out the funniest person on youtube Edbassmaster: http://www.youtube.com/user/edbassmaster
Yankees>Rest of MLB
They Finally called up Baby Jesus
i still wanna bring back the hump though
we might get him for cheap since no one seems to have too much interest in him
Jeffrey Sutton 2.0
Humphries is plan C...
Plan A: Nene
Plan B: Chandler
Plan C: Hump
I’m not including Howard because the Nets will still need a PF any way…
you're forgetting J-Will!!
very realistic, but I really hope the Nets steer clear of AK47. I’m really hoping somehow the Nets find a way to convince Battier to come here over going to Miami or Boston. With the 2.5 MLE, it wouldn’t shock me if Howard, or like Boki come back.
by JerseysFinest. on Dec 2, 2011 12:04 PM EST up reply actions
Does anyone else agree that Nene has perhaps the best handles in the league for a pf/c?
Dr. J~Super Buck~Draz~JKidd~Deron
gasols are still the best
brad miller, although he doesnt play much.
scola.
then i’m not sure where they would go but: hibbert, monroe, nene, and gortat would be in the same tier.
The realist keepin it real amongst the surrealists
I was in Baghdad before these little B.G.'s was in they daddy-bags.
by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Dec 2, 2011 8:32 PM EST up reply actions
Scola?
Hibbert?!
Gortat?!
I also hope you meant Gasol’s and not the plural meaning including Marc, he’s a lumbering, plodding, land locked robot.
I’m speechless!
by vincecarter4pres on Dec 3, 2011 1:24 PM EST up reply actions
I want nothing to do with
AK, Josh Howard.
Ideally, I’d hope we could get Prince or Battier.
Dr. J~Super Buck~Draz~JKidd~Deron
I think BK has a lot up his sleeve
say we sign Nene, and a small forward, maybe a prince or a kirilenko…..that’ll definitely not be all…..he will also get a capable big man to come off the bench as well as make a sneaky surprise trade that includes farmar and some cap relief to a team looking to save some cash…..i really have no idea for who, but i just have a feeling that something real sneaky is gonna go down!!! He’s been way too confident in interviews almost like mocking the interviewer without every giving a direct answer!!!!
I love it
Give me
Dwill/Gaines
Morros/Brooks
DJames/Prince
Mcroberts/Nene
Lopez/Petro
and im assuming farmar might be dealt because he holds some value around the league so im unsure what else could come our way
Section15 Row 12 Seats 1&2
by Angelo Mihalitsianos on Dec 2, 2011 10:32 AM EST reply actions
NO haha.....
worry it wasnt necessarily in starter/sub order
off the bench though to play 4 and 5 mcroberts would be nice….of course humphries in that role would be great too!!!! Great energy, awesome rebounder, above average defender….straight muscle
Section15 Row 12 Seats 1&2
by Angelo Mihalitsianos on Dec 2, 2011 10:36 AM EST up reply actions
Orlando fans know DH12 is gone BUT defiant that he's not coming to Nets...
Only team that makes sense is the Clips
Bledose and Gordon. Plus the two first round picks(I’m not going to lie, I love that Minnesota pick) and if we could get Philly involved for a three team trade where they get Kaman expiring and our first round pick for 2012 or 2013(preferably 2013) we would be straight. Because then we can hold New Jersey ransom and offer them tpe to absorb Deron Williams, for Eric Bledsoe, and Minny 1st round pick. Why the hell would Williams stay in Jersey with no going there? We would throw out Williams, Gordon, and Iggy with Anderson, harper, around them. Aside from losing Dwight, any downside?
by Mateo9399 on Dec 2, 2011 4:09 AM PST replyactions
Niners,Nets,Reds & USC!!!
The Most Interesting Man In The World---->Mikhail Prokhorov!!!
Sounds like some of the Nets fans on this site
by BrooklynNets on Dec 2, 2011 10:35 AM EST up reply actions
yep
My lil man.....can't tell me god don't exist.
by killa kadafi191 on Dec 2, 2011 10:36 AM EST up reply actions
agreed
Niners,Nets,Reds & USC!!!
The Most Interesting Man In The World---->Mikhail Prokhorov!!!
by Kidd2Petrovic on Dec 2, 2011 10:37 AM EST up reply actions
Why would Deron want to go to a Dwight less Orlando?
That’s even more of a rebuilding situation than we’re in. Do they even think? And we’d trade Deron for a pick and Bledsoe?
Not only do they have that "Clippers scenerio" going but...
One where it involves Bucks & LA, where LA gets DH12, Bucks Bynum & Orlando Bogut plus 1st round picks. Problem is the Orlando fans have no faith in Otis Smith right now. Plus it just seems there are TOO many options on the table for Smith with NJ,LA via Bucks & even some DAL grumblings w/ Beaubois. Thing is seems he doesn’t want to screw it up plus the fact that he hasn’t really offically talked to DH yet.
Niners,Nets,Reds & USC!!!
The Most Interesting Man In The World---->Mikhail Prokhorov!!!
by Kidd2Petrovic on Dec 2, 2011 10:43 AM EST up reply actions
The Clippers can offer the best deal but
does anyone actually want to play for Sterling?
He is racist and the guy wouldn’t even help pay for an employees cancer treatment which is just pathetic on his part.
They offer the best draft pick
But they don’t have a 20PPG center.
Section 18, Row 7 at The Rock!
"Your 2010-2011 New Jersey Nets - It Is What It Is"
truth but what if...
that LA scenerio gets going as I stated above where Orlando gets Bogut & Mil 1st rounder
Niners,Nets,Reds & USC!!!
The Most Interesting Man In The World---->Mikhail Prokhorov!!!
by Kidd2Petrovic on Dec 2, 2011 10:45 AM EST up reply actions
Bogut is as injury prone as Bynum
and has 3 yrs left on his contract at 12mil+ per year. If Orlando is dealing Dwight, bogut I doubt happens.
by domininaldo1981 on Dec 2, 2011 12:09 PM EST up reply actions
Yea its like pick best out of stiutation, knowing DH will not be in Orlando
Door #1 – Nets deal
Door #2 – Clippers deal
Door #3 – LA via Mil Deal
Door #4 – Dallas w/ Beaubois Deal
As a Nets fan, even I have to say door #2, since has it the most “pieces” of value for Orlando.
Niners,Nets,Reds & USC!!!
The Most Interesting Man In The World---->Mikhail Prokhorov!!!
by Kidd2Petrovic on Dec 2, 2011 12:21 PM EST up reply actions
Is there a requirement that trades be position-for-position?
The Magic have a lot of holes.
The Clippers package far exceeds that of the Nets.
I think there are pros and cons to both
Do not agree that it “far” exceeds, but I will concede that it is the better package for Orlando, if Dwight will play there.
Section 18, Row 7 at The Rock!
"Your 2010-2011 New Jersey Nets - It Is What It Is"
Well, it depends what we're talking about, but...
A package of Eric Gordon, Al Aminu, DeAndre Jordan (S&T) and Minnesota’s pick, far exceeds the package the Nets can offer, in my opinion.
the minny pick only comes into effect if LA,Mil & Orl wants to do a 3 team trade
BUT Clips have their own 1st rd picks to put in your scenerio
Niners,Nets,Reds & USC!!!
The Most Interesting Man In The World---->Mikhail Prokhorov!!!
by Kidd2Petrovic on Dec 2, 2011 11:24 AM EST up reply actions
and yes their offer is better than ours
Niners,Nets,Reds & USC!!!
The Most Interesting Man In The World---->Mikhail Prokhorov!!!
by Kidd2Petrovic on Dec 2, 2011 11:37 AM EST up reply actions
Minny Pick trade scenerio is...
LA gets DH12, Mil gets Bynum & another pieces, Orlando gets Bogut & Mil 1st round pick
where as
Clippers trade scenerio is Gordon & Bledson and 2-1st round picks both from Clippers. Only way to get Mil pick involved in this scenerio is to get another team involved (ie: philly, etc)
Niners,Nets,Reds & USC!!!
The Most Interesting Man In The World---->Mikhail Prokhorov!!!
by Kidd2Petrovic on Dec 2, 2011 12:07 PM EST up reply actions
Clippers own a Minny 1st rounder
plus their own. They would trade their own plus the Minny pick.
by domininaldo1981 on Dec 2, 2011 12:11 PM EST up reply actions
just looked it up again, yes you are correct...
either way Clippers as stated have a better deal than the Nets on the table
Niners,Nets,Reds & USC!!!
The Most Interesting Man In The World---->Mikhail Prokhorov!!!
by Kidd2Petrovic on Dec 2, 2011 12:15 PM EST up reply actions
I'm on record saying that I think Howard and Paul will end up with the Clippers.
The Donald Sterling effect is hard to overlook, but I think the on-court potential of that team would outweigh it.
That’s what I expect to happen, but we’ll see.
Only place that makes sense is LAC.
Cause they can give us Gordon, Minny 1st, Aminu!
Yeah, well… umm… yeah…
by vincecarter4pres on Dec 2, 2011 3:23 PM EST up reply actions
If we get Nene, any others would have to be 1-year deals
if we don’t get Howard now but still want to give it a go next year.
No multi-year deals for Prince/Butler/AK/Crawford, etc.
In such a case, among the SF choices, maybe it would only be AK whom Proky could possibly, if remotely, convince to agree to a 1-year MLE, with the promise of a multi-year MLE next year.
In a no-Howard-for-now scenario, it could look like this:
DWill, Farmar, Gaines
Morrow, Brooks
AK, James
Nene, JWill
Brook, Petro
Then next year, we re-sign Deron and make a run for Dwight.
I'll revise it
and just keep Outlaw for amnesty purposes, instead of signing AK, so there’s the possibility of still trading for Howard during the season.
trade Morrow and farmar plus the houston pick for Josh Smith, Sign Nene, Sign Crawford
DWill, Gaines
Crawford, Brooks
JSmith, VCarter
Nene, Hump
Lopez, Petro
Pretty solid line up
Atlanta would never do that deal
I love the Nets...too bad they don't love me...
by BEB on Dec 2, 2011 10:39 AM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
why not?
gives them a solid PG, and a replacement for Crawford, and salary cap to sign a free agent center. maybe replace the pick with our own unprotected
No, not even in the slightest.
That package is not getting Smith, end of story.
by vincecarter4pres on Dec 2, 2011 3:25 PM EST up reply actions
before the coaches realized he couldnt shoot in the nba
The realist keepin it real amongst the surrealists
I was in Baghdad before these little B.G.'s was in they daddy-bags.
by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Dec 2, 2011 8:34 PM EST up reply actions
Dwill wanted al Jefferson in Utah.
We all know how that worked out. Dwight option 1 chandler option 2. Nene is not what we need right now. We need a tough lock down defender.
by ItsAllNets on Dec 2, 2011 10:39 AM EST via iPhone app reply actions
But that was by trading
If that is the best player that could have gotten after Boozer was clearly not staying, it was a very good pick up.
Official Member of the "DIDN'T WANT TO TRADE DERRICK FAVORS, BUT HAPPY WE GOT D. WILLIAMS" Movement
When exactly did Deron want Al Jefferson in Utah?
He wanted Boozer back, the team decided to go cheapo.
by vincecarter4pres on Dec 2, 2011 3:27 PM EST up reply actions
yeah he wanted boozer back along with matthews and brewer
if not for Al Jeff getting a DUI and the t’wolves being the t’wolves they would not have gotten him
The realist keepin it real amongst the surrealists
I was in Baghdad before these little B.G.'s was in they daddy-bags.
by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Dec 2, 2011 8:36 PM EST up reply actions
That's not really true at all.
Big Al is big stat JUNK.
That was the top of his trade value range, DUI or not. 2 1sts and pure cap is pretty solid value for any middle tier player anyway.
There was nothing wrong with that deal for the Wolves.
Kahn offered Al Jeff straight up for Granger and Bird laughed him off the phone and never called back.
Thorn was supposedly offered Al Jeff for basically pure cap and turned it down last summer and then Kahn duped Utah into adding 2 1sts because they were desperate to appease Deron in some way while going el cheapo and saving long term money instead of signing Boozer.
by vincecarter4pres on Dec 3, 2011 1:28 PM EST up reply actions
it was obvious
RicBucher Ric Bucher
Not sure if CP3 reads JHollinger, but a source says he knows NYK have nothing to trade to NOH and won’t force his way there. Link coming.
by Andres B on Dec 2, 2011 10:42 AM EST reply actions 2 recs
Rut roh Knicks fans
Section 18, Row 7 at The Rock!
"Your 2010-2011 New Jersey Nets - It Is What It Is"
by eLonepb on Dec 2, 2011 10:44 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
No love for Toney Douglas? And a 2018 1st rounder?
by brother_rat on Dec 2, 2011 10:50 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Don't forget ROY Landry Fields!
Took a page out of Jordan’s book!
by vincecarter4pres on Dec 2, 2011 3:28 PM EST up reply actions
Thank god
Paul really is a pretty sensible guy. I don’t think either he or Dwight want to destroy their franchises the way LeBron, Bosh, and Melo did.
by BrooklynNets on Dec 2, 2011 10:53 AM EST up reply actions
The thing is
If we sign Nene, that offer is off the table.
That is the brilliance of this Poker Game.
King: We have the cap space NOW. I dont know if we will be able to take Turk LATER.
Otis: Uh Uh Uh Uh.
King is Tyrion Lannister.
Official Member of the "DIDN'T WANT TO TRADE DERRICK FAVORS, BUT HAPPY WE GOT D. WILLIAMS" Movement
I was thinking more like Phily Ivery.
But hey, whatever floats your boat! :)
by vincecarter4pres on Dec 2, 2011 3:30 PM EST up reply actions
If Howard and Dwight got the max and Nene accepted a $13 million per deal they would be maxed out. Would not work with Dwight and Deron’s current deals under the cap.
by BrooklynNets on Dec 2, 2011 10:54 AM EST up reply actions
You're saying Deron Williams wouldn't take less to fit in Howard?
Remember: That’s an advantage of him opting out. He can structure his contract in way that would allow the Nets to add Howard, in the event that they’re pursuing him next summer.
Oh, I'm sorry. Reading comprehension.
Still, my point stands. I think that’s an advantage of Williams opting out.
I posted this some posts up
The possibility’s remote but my attempt to show why it’s not impossible. Sorry for repeating but this might answer your question:
The Nets, still including Outlaw and Marshon’s cap hold, are at around 41 million, with the salary cap expected at 58.
Let’s say Nene is signed to an upper limit of a starting salary of 14 which, with increases, would total 60 over 4 years (he had rejected a 50/4yr extension). That would leave a cap space of 3 million. Amnesty Outlaw and that rises to 10. The salaries of Lopez and the rest of the current Nets not named Deron total around 18 million. 10+18 are equal to the 28 of Dwight and Hedo.
So the Nets could still try a Denver-NYK type of deal, using Brook and a collection of Nets players (Morrow, Brooks, with Farmar, etc) plus the 10M cap space to absorb Hedo. Plus the picks.
That would give the Nets a big Big 3 of DWill, Dwight and Nene. Plus Hedo. Then get an MLE player. Fill out the rest with minimum salaries.
NY Post, Dunno if this has been posted
League sources acknowledge the Nets are among the more aggressive teams pursuing Denver’s Nene and while acknowledging the suitor field is densely populated, one rated their chances as "pretty strong" with the 6-foot-11 hulk. Denver, Indiana and Houston are among the strongest competition.
Nene is the Nets’ top free agent choice.
That's Kerber's article
Section 18, Row 7 at The Rock!
"Your 2010-2011 New Jersey Nets - It Is What It Is"
Can anyone confirm
that if we sign Nene and amnesty Outlaw we won’t have the cap space to take on Turkoglu in a Dwight trade?
"It's not a lie, if you believe it" - George Costanza
"Silence is only golden when you can't think of a good answer" - Muhammad Ali
i dont see any way thats possible
maybe if we got rid of petro and farmar but still i dont think that works. dont know for sure though.
Here's another thought
Nets currently have about $41.5 million committed to:
Deron Williams
Jordan Farmar
Sundiata Gaines
Anthony Morrow
MarShon Brooks
Travis Outlaw
Damion James
Jordan Williams – not yet signed, assuming $600k per year
Brook Lopez
and Johan Petro.
If you amnesty Outlaw the number decreases to about $34.5. Now let’s say that the Nets sign Nene to a deal about $13 million a year and someone like Luc Richard to $3 million. The Nets now have a payroll of $50.5 million, about $8 million below the cap.
They could still do the Dwight Howard, Hedo Turkoglu trade. Dwight and Hedo make a combined $29 million. If you trade Nene and Lopez and picks, that’s $16 million coming back + $8 million in free cap space for $24 million. Throw in Farmar’s contract, or trade Petro for a pick and cap space and you have pretty much closed the gap.
Orlando receives Nene, Lopez, picks, and about $8 million in cap space in return for Howard and Hedo’s contract. Still a very good deal for them.
What's the benefit for us doing that as opposed
to the other trade?
Or Orlando can just cut the crap
and trade Howard now with Turk, amnesty Arenas and have the cap room to do what they want and not be forced to take on Nene.
You also have cap holds to meet the minimum of 12 players
Section 18, Row 7 at The Rock!
"Your 2010-2011 New Jersey Nets - It Is What It Is"
Good point
but that could be met by Ben Uzoh type contracts, right?
It’s still plausible though.
by BrooklynNets on Dec 2, 2011 10:56 AM EST up reply actions
Half season tickets start at $850 for a pair…forget it.
Stubhub!
@ HowardBeckNYT
Deal done, source says. NBA is back.
-November 26th, 3:17 am.
That’s definitely upstairs, about halfway up. Sounds exactly what mine were for last season, except this is even less games than last season.
Now season tix off of stubhub would be chump change
by JimmyLips on Dec 2, 2011 10:55 AM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
dear Santa
Ive been a good boy this year. I’m not greedy just pick one and wrap it in a bow
by DJ HeavyDuty on Dec 2, 2011 10:53 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
mmmmmm
Id love to see her in my Nets jersey
by DJ HeavyDuty on Dec 2, 2011 11:14 AM EST up reply actions
Yeah, I know it's nuts and I know the money doesn't necessarily workout, but.....
what if we got Howard….and then got Nene to take a bit less to come join in on the fun? That would be a hellified front court.
Orlando will be rebuilding after moving Dwight. their entire squad will be fairly young.
Two first picks in a strong draft next year helps as well. No way they take back nene at 12+million a year.
They should take two picks now move Dwight before season, dump arenas in amnesty. And then chase Marc gasol and Thad young to pair with blo. And suck this year and pick up a strong pg and sg next year.
by ItsAllNets on Dec 2, 2011 10:57 AM EST via iPhone app reply actions
Plus the Magic have their own
If they trade now, they dump salary, have a mediocre season and now have THREE draft picks in the deepest draft in years. Makes the Clippers package even more enticing since there’s a chance Orlando could have 2 lottery picks.
Section 18, Row 7 at The Rock!
"Your 2010-2011 New Jersey Nets - It Is What It Is"
haha good one!
That was hilarious, intentional or not
by Chakroot on Dec 2, 2011 11:15 AM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
I hear that all too often despite the results every season
I like some of their guys, but they can never get it together. Maybe with all the talent moving east, they’ll have a chance as an 8th seed
by Chakroot on Dec 2, 2011 11:24 AM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
People forget...
Minny has themselves one heck of a coach now, he can truly change the culture there and bring all that talent to play as a “team” don’t sleep on them having a very solid season… Not playoffs, but they won’t have the most lottery balls either.
I thought we can't trade back to back picks?
Didn’t we already gave our pick away last year to Utah in the Deron Williams trade?
JKidd Era 2! Starring D.Williams as the lead actor, Avery Johnson as Byron Scott, and Player X as Player Y.
Let the show begin!
We had the laker pick last year...
…so it’s not a problem.
Also it doesn’t matter what happened last year because the rule only applies to drafts that haven’t happened yet.
I see...
so technically we can trade both of our first round picks this year, but can’t trade next years 1st unless we trade or buy another first rounder from another team.
We can however trade away our 2014 1st round pick right?
JKidd Era 2! Starring D.Williams as the lead actor, Avery Johnson as Byron Scott, and Player X as Player Y.
Let the show begin!
If I'm Orlando I...
Take the Lopez trade.
It’s the best rebuilding scenario they’ll find. I’d try my damndest to squeeze Marshon Brooks out of NJ too.
Look to trade Jameer Nelson to Milwaukee
Something tells me Jennings could be had. Skiles wants veterans. Throw in Livingston to match up the salaries a little better. Nelson, S-Jax and Bogut are a nice vet trio.
Look to trade for Robin Lopez
Perhaps Phoenix would have interest in Brandon Bass. A draft pick could even get it done.
Amnesty Arenas
I don’t care what it costs. Rebuilding begins NOW.
Throw remaining money at Nick or Thaddeus Young.
Jennings/Duhon/Livingston
Brooks/Reddick/Liggins
Young/Harper/Q-Rich
Lopez/Anderson
Lopez/Orton
I agree about Lopez...
You lose your center…guess what ? You get another one back and a pretty good and young one who also happens to be a model citizen and a big fan of Disney. What more could you ask for ?
by M I K E on Dec 2, 2011 11:29 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Milwaukee would never
ever, ever, never, ever trade Brandon Jennings for Jammer Nelson.
by JerseysFinest. on Dec 2, 2011 11:56 AM EST up reply actions
BOKI!?!?!?
The Nets have reached out to both Grant Hill, a Knicks target, and Boki Nachbar, who wants to return after two years in Europe, says Kerber. They’ve also contacted agents for Rasual Butler and Josh McRoberts, says Al Iannazzone.
by Whoop Dee Damn Doo on Dec 2, 2011 11:15 AM EST reply actions
please no Boki
He would step out of bounds whenever driving to the basket
by DJ HeavyDuty on Dec 2, 2011 11:32 AM EST up reply actions
From what some people say, Givony I think
Boki hasn’t been playing very well the last few years, would be a bit risky
I like Grant Hill as a vet on this team
And McRoberts to play backup PF. The dude has some serious skill and may have a breakout season this next year. He has talent.
It's amazing that in just a couple of weeks we will....
probably be looking at a new team…
The anticipation and excitement is starting to build and I’m glad I’m a Nets fan…
Thank you Lord for delivering me from the clutches of those evil Knicks so many years ago !
LETS GO NETS !!!
Would you guys go to battle with:
For a full season would you be confident with this lineup?
Lopez
Nene
Prince
Morrow
Deron
Resigned Hump
6th seed?
4/5 Seed...
That lineup can be better than the Hawks and Knicks and potentially Magic. Hawks always seem to have a good regular season, worse than the Heat and Bulls for sure.
With a healthy Deron and an improved Lopez
I think the Nets are a legitimate 7/8 seed contender.
Add Prince, or any other legitimate small forward, I could see them maybe contending for the 6th.
Add Nene, and I think the Nets could potentially be contenders for the 5 spot, MAYBE. But I agree, that team can definitely defeat Atlanta, would go to battle with NY, and Milwaukee, Indy, Washington, etc.
by JerseysFinest. on Dec 2, 2011 11:59 AM EST up reply actions
4/5 seed!?
Haha Yeaaa maybe 7/8 seed. Be objective guys
by HabPSU on Dec 2, 2011 2:42 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
What's not objective?
That team could be the 2 seed, very realistically so.
by vincecarter4pres on Dec 2, 2011 3:34 PM EST up reply actions
Think McRoberts would be an awesome signing
young player, with huge upside. Doesn’t expect to be back in Indy apparently either
Like him because of hustle, rebounds & passing...
Would quiet alot of that “soft” label that even Petro had to say about Nets as a whole last year!
Niners,Nets,Reds & USC!!!
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by Kidd2Petrovic on Dec 2, 2011 12:00 PM EST up reply actions
yea
plus he’s pretty athletic for a guy his size, something this front court lacks.
by JerseysFinest. on Dec 2, 2011 12:05 PM EST up reply actions
Boki would be a great pick up
The Bad and the Good:
Bad:
1) Easily fixable: Yes, he did step out of bounds a lot after spotting up at the corners. However, no one can deny that he is a legitimate 3 point threat and legitimate drive to the hoop threat
2) Not easily fixable: Lack of lateral quickness on defense. He’s not Tayshaun Prince or Andre Kirilenko. But how many SF’s are?
Good:
1) Plays hard: In the day and age of Vince Carter-Settle-For-Chucking players, it’s good to see a Net that is not afraid to drive the lane and dunk on Karl Malone or Samuel Dalembert. Even if h gets knocked on his butt, he will fire up his teammates
2) Game fits Deron Williams: Boki fits Deron’s game on all facets. Boki can run the break and finish, spot up for the 3 for when Deron draws the double team (and other Nets rotate the ball), and make backdoor cuts to take advantage of Deron’s court vision.
3) Shoots the 3: You can never have enough good 3 point shooters.
4) Works Hard: What he lacks in lateral quickness, Boki makes up for in effort. No Vince Carter’s or Bo Outlaw’s here.
The Grant Hill link is great news
No idea why some of you aren’t happy with this. Yes, he’s 39 but he has barely missed any games in the last 3 seasons. He also played 30 MPG so he’s far from done. He puts up the same stats that Tayshaun Prince does, with better efficiency and solid defense. He’ll also come super cheap, due to his age, and on a shorter deal. Grant Hill would be a perfect fit on the Nets right now, out of all the FA SFs.
Don't need Grant Hill
Not winning a championship any time soon
"We're not there yet, but we're going somewhere," Johnson said. "And we're going to Brooklyn. We're not going to contract. We're going to Brooklyn."
Marshon and Morrow rotation at the 2 is ok with you guys?
I like the frontcourts you guys are mentioning. Im just wondering if the backcourt is strong enough to make a decent run.
by Whoop Dee Damn Doo on Dec 2, 2011 12:03 PM EST reply actions
I think it's serviceable to start the season
Trades are always a possibility. And more to choose from next year. Outside of Bigs I think SF is a bigger need to address.
by Rodney Buford on Dec 2, 2011 12:08 PM EST up reply actions
To be honest I think we have bigger fish to fry
SF and PF position first.
"We're not there yet, but we're going somewhere," Johnson said. "And we're going to Brooklyn. We're not going to contract. We're going to Brooklyn."
Fixed
they need a competitive vet.
Official Member of the "DIDN'T WANT TO TRADE DERRICK FAVORS, BUT HAPPY WE GOT D. WILLIAMS" Movement
Nene would be awesome
"A little boy went out to play. When he opened his door, he saw the world. As he passed through the doorway, he caused a reflection. Evil was born. Evil was born, and followed the boy."
Jamal Crawford keeps talking about the Nets for some reason hmmmmm
adiddybk2012: @JCrossover can a brooklyn nets fan get some love and remember nets have dwill easy buckets all day !
"We're not there yet, but we're going somewhere," Johnson said. "And we're going to Brooklyn. We're not going to contract. We're going to Brooklyn."
stop trying to use the nets crawford
no one here likes you
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