If Not Dwight Howard, How About Tyson Chandler? Nene?
by Net Income on Dec 1, 2011 7:43 AM EST
in 2011 Free Agency
Email
PrintColin Stephenson reports that the Nets have interest in Tyson Chandler and the feeling is mutual. "Tyson Chandler, the free agent center who helped Dallas win the NBA title last spring, is 'interested' in the Nets, according to someone familiar with his thinking," Stephenson reports. Fred Kerber confirmed the mutual interest and quoted a source who called it "strong interest."
Meanwhile, in Dallas, Chandler is telling reporters he doesn't expect to be back with the Mavs, and wants to resolve his free agency soon.
"I would like this to be settled by early next week," Chandler said. "I want to be in camp with my new teammates as soon as possible."
Chris Broussard and Marc Stein report that "NBA front office sources list New Jersey, Golden State, Houston and Toronto as the teams chasing Chandler hardest." Broussard and Stein also quote sources as saying the Mavs don't have enough cap space to sign both Chandler and a 2012 star free agent, like Deron Williams. But they quote "one source close to Deron Williams" as saying it's unlikely that he would consider signing with the Mavericks unless he was joining both Dirk Nowitzki and Chandler.
Ken Berger reports that the Nets also reached out to the agent of restricted free agents Arron Afflalo and Luc Mbah a Moute. Williams, Chandler, Afflalo and Mbah a Moute are all clients of Jeff Schwartz. And Adrian Wojnarowski writes that the Nets are one of a few teams who "are strongly considering offers for Knicks free-agent forward Shawne Williams." Finally (we think) Alex Kennedy of HoopsWorld says the Nets were among those calling Jamal Crawford's camp Wednesday.
- Nets' practice facility open to players Thursday; will anyone show up? - Colin Stephenson - Star-Ledger
- Nets press forward on Chandler, Nene - Fred Kerber - New York Post
- GM Billy King is thinking free agent centers - Al Iannazzone - The Record
- New rules mean Nets' Deron Williams likely to opt out - Al Iannazzone - The Record
- Nets GM King courting players now, needs a big move - Al Iannazzone - The Nets Insider
- NJ Nets GM Billy King insists trade report on Dwight Howard isn’t right - Stefan Bondy - New York Daily News
- Tyson Chandler expects to leave Mavs - Chris Broussard & Marc Stein - ESPN Dallas
- The Nets Confront the Future, and It Couldn’t Be Murkier - Howard Beck - New York Times
- Really Big Big Threes - Benjamin Hoffman - New York Times
- NJ Nets GM Billy King insists trade report on Dwight Howard isn’t right - Stefan Bondy - New York Daily News
- Free agency signing days away, but frenzy exists - Ken Berger - CBS Sports
- NBA free-agent buzz: Teams courting Nene - Adrian Wojnarowski - Yahoo!
- Many Teams Showing Interest in Crawford - Alex Kennedy - HoopsWorld
- Stars like Paul, Howard to test new CBA - Zach Lowe - Sports Illustrated
- The Dwight Howard situation is fluid - Chris Sheridan - Sheridan Hoops
- NETS: King Holds Court for First Time This Season (with VIdeo) - Ben Couch - New Jersey Nets
1069 comments
|
1 recs |
Do you like this story?
Comments
Yes he was the starting Center on a championship team, and has been given credit to have changed the toughness and defense of the team
Nene has played with Melo, Billups, Kmart, Miller, AI and has gone nowhere
by RandyOreens on Nov 30, 2011 9:32 PM EST reply actions 3 recs
spot on
2010-2011 = acquire an All-Star via cap space as Thorn himself said
2011-2012 = make the playoffs without hindering future flexibility
2012 off-season = sign the second All-Star
2012-2013 = make a run for the championship
Mission accomplished thus far.
Bring in Chandler.
BY FAR, our best option and the best big man on the market.
by nets14 on Nov 30, 2011 9:33 PM EST reply actions 2 recs
possibly cheaper than Nene
@ HowardBeckNYT
Deal done, source says. NBA is back.
-November 26th, 3:17 am.
cheaper and better
I don’t want a center who scores. I want an UGLY player who throws shots into the crowd, and takes alley oops from half court. I want someone who gets the crowd pumped.
Dwight and Chandler both fit the bill!
by i says on Nov 30, 2011 9:38 PM EST up reply actions 7 recs
I think it would be easier to build around Dwill/Nene/Lopez…
With Chandler we would need more offense, but at least our interior defense would be much improved.
@ HowardBeckNYT
Deal done, source says. NBA is back.
-November 26th, 3:17 am.
Yeah, we actually scored a lot more after the trade
I don’t know the exact numbers, but even with an injured Dwill, we were putting the ball in the hole much more often.
by dwill8brooklynbound on Nov 30, 2011 9:36 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah.
The team scored pretty highly in the games Deron played, no?
The problem was defense.
America doesn't run on Dunkin; it runs on Varitek.
MarShon Brooks has the dreaded.
if that’s the case…Chandler will do!
@ HowardBeckNYT
Deal done, source says. NBA is back.
-November 26th, 3:17 am.
Just imagine… Tysons best offensive asset is his ability to receive on point back door passes from stud PG’s… Guess what we have! And we will have Brook drawing all the DT’s!
"LeBron puts up great numbers, can't close w/o DWade. LeBricked 3 late 3s when shouldve been driving, getting to line. What else new?"
Yet casual basketball fans think he is a God, and would exhaust their entire squads to land him...
BK is bound to make at least one “off the radar” trade. Granger would be a nice pick up to go along with Chandler.
you just said it so its now on the radar
no one absolutley no one, that includes BK, thought deron would be a net until the moment the trade went through
Im having an excitement overload with that lineup.
"LeBron puts up great numbers, can't close w/o DWade. LeBricked 3 late 3s when shouldve been driving, getting to line. What else new?"
Yet casual basketball fans think he is a God, and would exhaust their entire squads to land him...
That's a great lineup
If Indiana was willing to give up Granger for the assets that would go to Howard, that’s a home run.
Only concern with that team – injury history. It just seems that Chandler and Granger can never stay healthy.
by ZR on Dec 1, 2011 8:59 AM EST up reply actions
it would be easier to build around Howard. Chandler has had injury issues, and is no spring chicken. Best candidate by far is Howard. The thing Howard never had was a pg who can really dish- like DWill can.
Exactly
I like Chandler’s game, but people need to keep in mind that he is on the wrong side of 30 and has an injury history.
just turned 29…younger than Nene
@ HowardBeckNYT
Deal done, source says. NBA is back.
-November 26th, 3:17 am.
1 month younger, but played 1 more year
so probably older in terms of mileage, but not a big deal
Nene took a year off basically
from the cancer.
"We're not talking about me and Darko in the same sentence." - Chris Webber vs KAHN!
by caseycheesecake on Dec 1, 2011 11:21 AM EST up reply actions
younger than nene! lmao
In Prokhorov & Billy King WE TRUST.
8 > 3
DH12 OR BUST!
Official Member of the "Travis OutLOL Society". 5 years, 35 Million Dollars worth of lulz.
Chandler or Nene would be great
but for the love of god Otis, PULL THE TRIGGER!
by NetsKiNG on Nov 30, 2011 9:34 PM EST reply actions 10 recs
Otis?
"Rooting for the Yankees is like rooting for Steve Jobs to win the lotto." - Chris Rock
The NBA - Where 2012 doesn't happen
Patrick Ewing - The NBA's all-time leader in rushing yards
by Taylor Made on Nov 30, 2011 10:12 PM EST up reply actions
uh huh
so what does that have to do with Chandler or Nene?
"Rooting for the Yankees is like rooting for Steve Jobs to win the lotto." - Chris Rock
The NBA - Where 2012 doesn't happen
Patrick Ewing - The NBA's all-time leader in rushing yards
by Taylor Made on Nov 30, 2011 10:33 PM EST up reply actions
If the Nets get Dwight, they won't be getting either of those two.
America doesn't run on Dunkin; it runs on Varitek.
MarShon Brooks has the dreaded.
Next Best thing to Dwight IMO.
He brings what Dwight would bring albeit in lesser quantities.
America doesn't run on Dunkin; it runs on Varitek.
MarShon Brooks has the dreaded.
Exactly what i have been saying
I think it’s safe to say that without him, Miami would be champs right now
Everyone is interested in the Nets! That ugly girl just hit puberty!
by i says on Nov 30, 2011 9:36 PM EST reply actions 10 recs
Then keep David West, Prince, Caron and AK away.
They’re too old for her.
by vincecarter4pres on Dec 1, 2011 12:04 AM EST up reply actions
Best part of this would be that we would no longer have to watch Brook "guard" Amar'e and the like.
America doesn't run on Dunkin; it runs on Varitek.
MarShon Brooks has the dreaded.
Still like D-Will/Nene/Pez alot better. Nene is a beast.
But i’ll take Chandler
"Success is peace of mind which is a direct result of self-satisfaction in knowing you did your best to become the best that you are capable of becoming." - John R. Wooden
by D Will to Succeed on Nov 30, 2011 9:39 PM EST reply actions
thats the thing…Nene style of play also makes him injury prone.
@ HowardBeckNYT
Deal done, source says. NBA is back.
-November 26th, 3:17 am.
Both have had injury problems in the past
I’d take Chandler on a 3 year deal. I think the positives would out weigh the negatives.
Chandler is the closest thing to interior D we had since KMART...block defend and clean up the glass. Plus he can get up for easy alley oop put downs
If not Dwight, I’m more than happy with chandler.
The posting on NetsDaily is getting crazy.
I thought that with the new CBA, the luxury tax would remain 1:1 for next 2 years?
I thought that was intended so that Mark Cuban could afford to keep Chandler?
Look at how quickly the tides have turned...
Last season free agents: “Join the Nets? Why would I do that?”
This season’s free agents: “I wanna be on this Nets team”
Nets Mets Giants ALL DAY
by netsareboss on Nov 30, 2011 9:42 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
smh
He is looking for a big payday so granted I would prefer him over Nene but damn it’s not worth paying him over 12mil either IMO and from the looks of things we may not even have to thanks to a potential trade…. But still and all, Nono to Nene!!!!
by boogeewon on Nov 30, 2011 9:43 PM EST via iPhone app reply actions
Lopez did play PF most of his life….
@ HowardBeckNYT
Deal done, source says. NBA is back.
-November 26th, 3:17 am.
college is not the nba
"Success is peace of mind which is a direct result of self-satisfaction in knowing you did your best to become the best that you are capable of becoming." - John R. Wooden
by D Will to Succeed on Nov 30, 2011 9:55 PM EST up reply actions
Check out his finals highlights on youtube, guy was beasting the glass and defended the basket really well.
We don’t need a scorer out of our big man we need someone to defend and clean up the glass and put backs…Defense first and foremost.
Exactly
We are not winning a championship with an addition of Chandler and spare parts. He is a ticking time bomb with age/durability. Again, I like him but we may regret this move big time. BK needs to swing a trade to stay young and durable. Think bigger.
Move over Nene
This is the real beast.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=otCZavPlfY8&feature=fvst
D-Will to Chandler, all day long.
dang i like this woooo we are the spot to land in right now
We are in another atmosphere. You're just in the Troposhere we in the Exospere. In other words the JETS are higher than you!
by Fly-as-a-JET on Nov 30, 2011 10:07 PM EST up reply actions
Ok, today set up for an interesting next week...
Dwight rumors surfaced, and now we’re starting to hear the Chandler has interest in the Nets…. I could see this as a possible way to attempt to get rid of Lopez and a couple of players in exchange for Dwight and then Nets signing Chandler to have a Chandler-Howard combo.
No chance.
The Nets have a chance at Howard, because they can absorb Turkoglu’s contract. And if they do that, they’ll only have the cap space to sign minor free agents.
NetsDaily.com
by NetsDaily on Nov 30, 2011 9:56 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
These Howard rumors are just that, rumors.....
I highly doubt anything happens until February.
Considering Otis Smith came out on a day where his star player was headlined in trade rumors and said
“We will consider everything”, I think it is more than just a rumor.
I think it's fine.
by NetsMets4Life on Nov 30, 2011 10:06 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
thats whats really confusing me
a part of me is saying it could be more than just a rumor, then we hear things like this that Tyson and the Nets have mutual interest. Pick a side already lol
by JerseysFinest. on Nov 30, 2011 10:12 PM EST up reply actions
What's confusing?
Plan A: Howard
Plan B: Nene or Chandler
by Anthony Perez on Nov 30, 2011 10:40 PM EST up reply actions
what I meant
was that if the Nets go out and sign free agents, their offer no longer can happen because they’ll lack the cap to take on Turk.
by JerseysFinest. on Dec 1, 2011 12:02 AM EST up reply actions
Except Chandler isn’t a guy I’m going to count on for his post game.
Timeless - The 2001-2003 NJ Nets
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nima3dmLrcw
Kmart wasnt that much of a post player either....
plus we have Lopez.
In Prokhorov & Billy King WE TRUST.
8 > 3
DH12 OR BUST!
Official Member of the "Travis OutLOL Society". 5 years, 35 Million Dollars worth of lulz.
I personally think
Chandler-Lopez is one of the most dominant front courts in basketball. The finesse big man and the manly big man. Those two would compliment each other very well.
Lopez+Chandler = Howard+spare parts?
or Lopez+Chandler > Howard+spare parts?
not "that" Jersey Shore...Point Pleasant, 10 refreshing miles north of Seaside.
by John at the Jersey Shore on Nov 30, 2011 11:01 PM EST up reply actions
You counted on K Mart for his post game?
by vincecarter4pres on Dec 1, 2011 12:12 AM EST up reply actions
Yeah...
Throw a running flat hook shot into the front of the rim…
Loved Kmart (obviously) but his post game left a ton to be desired.
For real.
He was a finisher, not a create his own offense guy, his post game was trash.
Ever check his playoff advanced’s? Cringe worthy efficiency.
by vincecarter4pres on Dec 1, 2011 12:38 PM EST up reply actions
I know its alittle off subject (big men) but...
what about Boston shopping around Rondo… have Dwill and Rondo running the backcourt would create havoc for opposing teams. Dwill did say (dont remember where I read it) he enjoyed playing the 2 in Besiktas so I could see :
Rondo
Dwill
James
Hedu
Dwight
bench- Petro, Farmar, Morrow, Gaines, Hump, Jwill, Brooks
Im not sure if salaries would permit but I could see BK pulling something like this off…remember BK is the same guy who brought Dwill to NJ and caught everyone off gaurd. what do you guys think? possible ? why and/or why not?
Rondo would have to be a trade. I dont want to give anyone away for him.
"LeBron puts up great numbers, can't close w/o DWade. LeBricked 3 late 3s when shouldve been driving, getting to line. What else new?"
Yet casual basketball fans think he is a God, and would exhaust their entire squads to land him...
trippy.....are you trippin?????
i jest i jest….that’ll never happen
Section15 Row 12 Seats 1&2
by Angelo Mihalitsianos on Nov 30, 2011 9:59 PM EST up reply actions
Deja Vu? (I mentioned this earlier but it got lost in sea of threads)
Other GM’s around the league are hearing the Nets proposed deal to the Magic — and liking it. Wouldn’t surprise me if one of them called BK to offer their star for a similar package (exactly what happened with Melodrama turned DWill trade). Which star would you trade Brook and picks for????
There are the obvious (that won't happen)
Lebron, Durant, Griffin. Something big will happen. I’m trying to think outside the box.
Durant and Griffin for sure, but that's about it
I wouldn’t go on the level of Granger for Lopez or Lopez for Rudy Gay, nope.
by soul driver on Nov 30, 2011 10:06 PM EST up reply actions
I would take Love over Lopez.
He is a young prolific scorer that plays bad D as well, but he can actually grab a damn rebound.
America doesn't run on Dunkin; it runs on Varitek.
MarShon Brooks has the dreaded.
Aldridge please
In Prokhorov & Billy King WE TRUST.
8 > 3
DH12 OR BUST!
Official Member of the "Travis OutLOL Society". 5 years, 35 Million Dollars worth of lulz.
by Claud on Nov 30, 2011 10:28 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Don’t like the Chandler-Lopez combo as much as Nene-Lopez on both ends of the floor.
"This isn’t fantasy or rotisserie basketball. Why would Denver want Outlaw? Would you?" - Al Iannazzone
nene can do it too and bring a better offensive game
by DJ HeavyDuty on Nov 30, 2011 10:08 PM EST up reply actions
Chandler led the defense on the past NBA champs and manhandled the Heat.
In Prokhorov & Billy King WE TRUST.
8 > 3
DH12 OR BUST!
Official Member of the "Travis OutLOL Society". 5 years, 35 Million Dollars worth of lulz.
Yes he did.
He was a beast on D throughout the playoffs.
America doesn't run on Dunkin; it runs on Varitek.
MarShon Brooks has the dreaded.
I think defensively covering 4's too.
Nene has great feet.
"This isn’t fantasy or rotisserie basketball. Why would Denver want Outlaw? Would you?" - Al Iannazzone
by strange-brew on Nov 30, 2011 10:01 PM EST up reply actions
But is so inferior on defense
Considering we have a Center who scores, but doesnt play D and rebound, we should get the guy who plays D and Rebounds.
one is better on offense and the other on defense…pick one
@ HowardBeckNYT
Deal done, source says. NBA is back.
-November 26th, 3:17 am.
Defense and rebounding
Chandler isn’t just good on D he can be dominating. Twin towers
We are in another atmosphere. You're just in the Troposhere we in the Exospere. In other words the JETS are higher than you!
by Fly-as-a-JET on Nov 30, 2011 10:09 PM EST up reply actions
everyone just assumes Lopez, at 23, will be the Kiki Vandeweghe of centers for the rest of his career
The realist keepin it real amongst the surrealists
I was in Baghdad before these little B.G.'s was in they daddy-bags.
by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Nov 30, 2011 10:20 PM EST up reply actions
Why did I think he was 31?
I think it's fine.
by NetsMets4Life on Nov 30, 2011 10:05 PM EST up reply actions
age isn’t the problem, its durability.
@ HowardBeckNYT
Deal done, source says. NBA is back.
-November 26th, 3:17 am.
you're exactly
especialy for a guy who relies so much on athleticism and whose injury history is incredibly suspect.
I still voted for Chandler tho
nene is 20 some days older than chandler
The realist keepin it real amongst the surrealists
I was in Baghdad before these little B.G.'s was in they daddy-bags.
by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Nov 30, 2011 10:23 PM EST up reply actions
He has more milage on those legs though.
In Prokhorov & Billy King WE TRUST.
8 > 3
DH12 OR BUST!
Official Member of the "Travis OutLOL Society". 5 years, 35 Million Dollars worth of lulz.
i was just saying though, didnt want you making incorrect statements
and yes chandler has more mileage so i’d be curious as to how many years king would offer? i’d assume 3 or less. He’s a hard worker but before he got to dallas he always seemed injured except the years he made the playoffs
The realist keepin it real amongst the surrealists
I was in Baghdad before these little B.G.'s was in they daddy-bags.
by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Nov 30, 2011 11:05 PM EST up reply actions
Younger than Nene
In Prokhorov & Billy King WE TRUST.
8 > 3
DH12 OR BUST!
Official Member of the "Travis OutLOL Society". 5 years, 35 Million Dollars worth of lulz.
Chandler is a ton more injury prone.
Nene really isn’t even injury prone.
He missed a season and a half with cancer.
One season with an ACL tear way back.
by vincecarter4pres on Dec 1, 2011 12:16 AM EST up reply actions
who cares? Chandler will guard the better player
by RandyOreens on Nov 30, 2011 10:00 PM EST up reply actions
Great point.
Lopez is sluggish, and didn’t play well as a whole last year. But if he plays like he did two years back he should be the center because you wouldn’t want the faster Power forwards to beat him down the lane every time.
I would say a combination of whose the better player and whose faster will determine which postion Chandler plays.
Like everyone says it dont matter
Chandler will D the better player about 80% of the time.
We are in another atmosphere. You're just in the Troposhere we in the Exospere. In other words the JETS are higher than you!
by Fly-as-a-JET on Nov 30, 2011 10:12 PM EST up reply actions
depends on the match up
In Prokhorov & Billy King WE TRUST.
8 > 3
DH12 OR BUST!
Official Member of the "Travis OutLOL Society". 5 years, 35 Million Dollars worth of lulz.
Netsdaily/Netincom
Can you please setup a poll for this thread on who we would prefer, Nene or Chandler. I’m actually curious to see what the margin of difference is. Thanks in advance
"Success is peace of mind which is a direct result of self-satisfaction in knowing you did your best to become the best that you are capable of becoming." - John R. Wooden
by D Will to Succeed on Nov 30, 2011 10:00 PM EST reply actions
make a fanpost
Dwight or bust....
Superbowl or bust...
by D-Will2Nets on Nov 30, 2011 10:01 PM EST up reply actions
but make it good
or it’ll get deleted
"Rooting for the Yankees is like rooting for Steve Jobs to win the lotto." - Chris Rock
The NBA - Where 2012 doesn't happen
Patrick Ewing - The NBA's all-time leader in rushing yards
by Taylor Made on Nov 30, 2011 10:26 PM EST up reply actions
Thank You Sir.
"Success is peace of mind which is a direct result of self-satisfaction in knowing you did your best to become the best that you are capable of becoming." - John R. Wooden
by D Will to Succeed on Nov 30, 2011 10:22 PM EST up reply actions
Id love to get chandler
but if this goes down we need a muscle style 4 on the bench also….cause while chandler is ultra athletic and is an enforcer in the way of shotblocking, we’ll need a guy who can bruise a la humphries last season……in addition, an upgrade at the 3 without question is still necessary………and not prince, cause then our starting frontcourt will consist of three stringbeans!!!!!
Section15 Row 12 Seats 1&2
by Angelo Mihalitsianos on Nov 30, 2011 10:02 PM EST reply actions
Good call.
I like Luc Richard. He would be a good cheap addition.
America doesn't run on Dunkin; it runs on Varitek.
MarShon Brooks has the dreaded.
by Maxyboy on Nov 30, 2011 10:16 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
definitely would be a solid bench piece that can guard 2's,3's,and 4's
and no offense defenders come rather cheap. tony allen got 3 mil a year leaving the Celtics. LRMAM could get the same or even less
The realist keepin it real amongst the surrealists
I was in Baghdad before these little B.G.'s was in they daddy-bags.
by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Nov 30, 2011 10:26 PM EST up reply actions
i was wondering why the previous thread became dead all of a sudden..
lol
by netsnation on Nov 30, 2011 10:04 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Same hahaha
That millisecond you're sure you're going to die when you lean back in your chair a little to far.
Chandler/Prince would be an excellent combo.
by NetsBrook on Nov 30, 2011 10:04 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
long players they are
disrupted will be the passing lanes
by pope of lofe on Nov 30, 2011 10:04 PM EST up reply actions
totally agree with you
Brooklyn we go hard...
by Fabio Villani on Nov 30, 2011 10:05 PM EST up reply actions
nets on espn radio
speaking before you think can have severe consequences, however doing it in reverse can have beautiful results!
Chandler most likely
That millisecond you're sure you're going to die when you lean back in your chair a little to far.
Not good...
And we would need another scoring big.
no we wouldnt
Lopez is an offensive force, Chandler can do clean-up work and catch lobs. they’re the perfect compliment.
by sheepareevil on Nov 30, 2011 11:45 PM EST up reply actions
Brook if the PF is less of a threat, Chandler if the C is less of a threat.
America doesn't run on Dunkin; it runs on Varitek.
MarShon Brooks has the dreaded.
Right off the bat, just say no to Nene
Guy is a pretty good player that will get overpaid that and can only give us things that we just dont need when we have Lopez.
Chandler on the other hand can be a great fit here, the guy proved that he can be very solid on offense when paired with great unselfish PG’s, is always a beast on the rebounds and on D and is actually a pretty natural fit next to Lopez.
The question is do we give up on Howard and go for this or do we bite the bullet and wait for possibly the best 1-2 punch in the league today.
Imo if Chandler can be had for 10M we should clearly sign him.
by Adam Yablonka on Nov 30, 2011 10:05 PM EST reply actions 2 recs
chandler would defend the better player (PF or C)
lopez would guard the worse player
ex: against knicks, lopez guards turiaf, chandler guards amare
against (hopefully last years) Magic: Lopez guards Bass, chandler guards howard
by michaelbot1 on Nov 30, 2011 10:08 PM EST up reply actions
Am I listening to the right thing?
They are talking Knicks and I don’t hear Al
by dwill8brooklynbound on Nov 30, 2011 10:13 PM EST up reply actions
LOL That last guy was such a Knicks homer though
CP3, Howard, Okafor, and Kendall Marshall to Duh Mecca!!
by dwill8brooklynbound on Nov 30, 2011 10:14 PM EST up reply actions
He's actually being very sensible
on ESPN 1050. I agree with most of his assessment.
Raskin knows what's up
Alex Raskin: Why is everyone down on Brook Lopez? He hasn’t missed a game in three years and he’s arguably the most-dynamic offensive center in the NBA about 8 minutes ago
Read more: http://hoopshype.com/twitter/media.html#ixzz1fFTzze8R
by dwill8brooklynbound on Nov 30, 2011 10:08 PM EST reply actions 6 recs
Definitely...
GMs appreciate him and Otis would love the cap space.
If Dwight goes quickly, it’s to the Nets.
by rundmc00 on Nov 30, 2011 10:09 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Even if Lopez’s rebounding #s stink, you can get any one of 400 power forwards to help out on the boards. How many Cs can score like him
Read more: http://hoopshype.com/twitter/media.html#ixzz1fFUE0L3s
Said that after
That millisecond you're sure you're going to die when you lean back in your chair a little to far.
by AC24 on Nov 30, 2011 10:09 PM EST up reply actions 6 recs
Ahh!! It was only for one year. If he does the same this year then we can say he’s a bad rebounder. But he’s been a great rebounder the rest of his career except for last year where all of his issues came. Mono, injuries that he played through, and he barely trained in the off season.
he averaged 8 his rookie year and 8.5 his 2nd...
Took a dip last year,
In Prokhorov & Billy King WE TRUST.
8 > 3
DH12 OR BUST!
Official Member of the "Travis OutLOL Society". 5 years, 35 Million Dollars worth of lulz.
by Claud on Nov 30, 2011 10:33 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Best offensive Center in the league IMO.
America doesn't run on Dunkin; it runs on Varitek.
MarShon Brooks has the dreaded.
by Maxyboy on Nov 30, 2011 10:18 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Word...
I was on SportsNation today (never again so many morons) and it was amazing how little respect Lopez gets. Do people realize he is only 23 years old? Have people actually watched him play? I think it is just the fact that he is a Net, and the Nets have been bad so Brook = bad to a lot of people b/c he couldn’t lead a team by himself at age 22.
by SovietBrooklyn on Dec 1, 2011 12:09 AM EST up reply actions
would be a crazy front court
especially if they add a 3
by JerseysFinest. on Nov 30, 2011 10:09 PM EST reply actions
Don't like Chandler on this team.
Who’s guarding power forwards? Chandler? That would greatly diminish the skills he would bring to a defense, rebounding and interior defense.
Then who’s playing power forward on offense? Lopez? Because having Brook playing away from the basket worked so well last year.
C’mon guys.
"C'mon guys"
Boom! End of thread
Were they saying "Boo" or "Boo-urns?"
@SlayerSantana on Twitter
by Kendrick Jay on Nov 30, 2011 10:17 PM EST up reply actions
At least Nene and Lopez would be playing positions they fit at.
Neither Chandler or Lopez should be playing power forward on offense. Did we forget what happened last year when Avery had Brook playing farther away from the basket than he ever has and Brook was playing terribly? You want to now re-create that?
by Clayton Balch on Nov 30, 2011 10:22 PM EST up reply actions
It was a pretty major thing in the beginning of the season.
Brook was taking more shots farther away from the hoop than he ever did before. it was a serious problem with the team and a lot of people, especially on here, were blaming Avery for trying to turn Brook into Dirk.
Then as the season progressed, Avery started using Brook like he should have in the first place and ended up having a solid year.
Now people want Brook to go back to playing away from the hoop. Destined for disaster.
by Clayton Balch on Nov 30, 2011 10:31 PM EST up reply actions
So who would be playing the 5 on offense?
by Clayton Balch on Nov 30, 2011 10:33 PM EST up reply actions
I really don’t see the point. Please elaborate, because I don’t get how Lopez “HAS” to be farther from the basket. For goodness sakes he’s stronger than most Pf’s (still soft) and he should have outstanding position deep in the post. Don’t see how he wouldn’t flourish on offence.
My only concern is the defence.
Basic basketball spacing.
One player, the center, plays closest to the hoop because they are generally the tallest player on the team and usually don’t have a jump shot (Chandler). The power forward, Lopez for this example, has to play away from the hoop so there is spacing on the court to allow for dribble penetration.
Teams like the 2009 Orlando Magic were very good at this because they had a stretch 4 in Rashard Lewis which allowed there to be only one man near the hoop, Dwight. This allowed there to be tons of spacing on the court which is great for dribble penetration and kick outs.
With Chandler not having any resemblance of a jump shot, he will be playing closest to the hoop most of the time. Leaving Lopez to have to space the court by playing away from the hoop, he would be the power forward in the offense. Brook Lopez is not a power forward, even though people would argue that he played that in college. Well, this isn’t college! Brook plays his best basketball from 10 feet and in as evidenced by this past year. Occasionally, he should look to step out and hit the 15 footer. But he would be doing a lot of outside shooting with Chandler on the team, which is not good news.
by Clayton Balch on Nov 30, 2011 11:05 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
so how is brook going to get easy dunks and layups
if chandler is always in the paint in his way?
The realist keepin it real amongst the surrealists
I was in Baghdad before these little B.G.'s was in they daddy-bags.
by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Nov 30, 2011 11:08 PM EST up reply actions
Last year, Chandler used the ball 14.2% of the time.
Humphries used it 17.3% of the time.
If Humphries used it nearly three percent more with a similar offensive game to Chandler and did not interfere with Brook, why would Tyson?
America doesn't run on Dunkin; it runs on Varitek.
MarShon Brooks has the dreaded.
because people are going to cheat off him if he is more than 10 feet from the rim
same way they did with humphries and outlaw and others. they will just sag off and force brook to pass out a double-team or start a difficult ball reversal.
brook will seldom have a clear lane to the basket or consistently work one-on-one on the low block. at least Nene is one of the better cutting big man around and can finish with power or finesse around the rim unlike chandler
The realist keepin it real amongst the surrealists
I was in Baghdad before these little B.G.'s was in they daddy-bags.
by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Nov 30, 2011 11:48 PM EST up reply actions
Because they play different positions.
This example might be a little extreme but it’s like asking Rondo to play shooting guard. Even though they could let him run the offense and have the same usage rate, he would be out of position in terms of where the ball gets rotated and the spots he gets put into. Never mind the defensive matchup problems.
by Clayton Balch on Nov 30, 2011 11:59 PM EST up reply actions
My mother warned me about using ball.
It’s almost as bad as meth.
by vincecarter4pres on Dec 1, 2011 12:24 AM EST up reply actions
Chandler can play Hump's role on offense last year.
Just grab alley oops from D-Will and put in some put backs.
America doesn't run on Dunkin; it runs on Varitek.
MarShon Brooks has the dreaded.
Hump could at least knock down an open jumper or two though.
How’s Chandlers jumper look?
Therefore Brook would be playing power forward. Something no one should be looking forward to.
by Clayton Balch on Nov 30, 2011 10:33 PM EST up reply actions
From Hoop Data: FG%
At Rim
Hump: 67.1%
Chandler: 72.8%
3-9 Feet
Hump: 40.4%
Chandler: 43.1%
10-15 Feet
Hump: 35.7%
Chandler: 42.9%
16-23 Feet
Hump: 38%
Chandler: 48%
America doesn't run on Dunkin; it runs on Varitek.
MarShon Brooks has the dreaded.
Here
http://www.hoopdata.com/player.aspx?name=Kris%20Humphries
http://www.hoopdata.com/player.aspx?name=Tyson%20Chandler
Hump took more in every category except at the rim. Chandler is not completely useless though except from 16-23.
America doesn't run on Dunkin; it runs on Varitek.
MarShon Brooks has the dreaded.
My point is just that they are very similar on offense.
America doesn't run on Dunkin; it runs on Varitek.
MarShon Brooks has the dreaded.
Tyson Chandler is a center.
Kris Humphries is a power forward.
Even though their styles of play might be similar, them being on the court drastically changes our team. If Chandler is signed, he would undoubtably be playing close to the hoop. For spacing purposes, this would move Brook away from the hoop. I thought we all learned from last year that Brook playing away from the hoop is a bad idea. They showed a stat towards the beginning if last season showing how much more Brook was shooting from farther out and how much his scoring and fg% had dropped. Then when he played closer to the hoop, he finished the year very strongly, even when D Will was out of the lineup.
by Clayton Balch on Nov 30, 2011 10:56 PM EST up reply actions
Chandler doesn't need to play close to the hoop
Chandler is excellent in the pick and roll. With Deron, he could flourish in that. Brook can still play on the block and dominate PF’s because very few are his height.
When the Nets played the Lakers, Brook dominated their bigs (to bad the rest of the team didn’t help)
Chandler is athletic enough that he can still go in and grab rebounds while playing away from the basket.
by domininaldo1981 on Nov 30, 2011 10:59 PM EST up reply actions
Where do you think Brook will be standing on pick and rolls?
Away from the hoop.
by Clayton Balch on Nov 30, 2011 11:06 PM EST up reply actions
yeah he does or he has no value
brook can run 1-5 P&R too. It just doesnt seem it’ll work from on court chemistry wise with two centers like chandler and lopez. it sorta worked with hump because hump could go out and guard PF’s away from the basket and at least was some type of threat to hit a jumper.
i think BK is smoke and mirrors on this one, using the mavs lack of leverage to drive up TC’s free agent price for whoever signs him.
The realist keepin it real amongst the surrealists
I was in Baghdad before these little B.G.'s was in they daddy-bags.
by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Nov 30, 2011 11:12 PM EST up reply actions
Chandler mostly scores off alley oops and putbacks.
Why would Avery keep Brook out of the post for that? Chandler doesn’t need to clog up that space to get alley-oops.
America doesn't run on Dunkin; it runs on Varitek.
MarShon Brooks has the dreaded.
Exactly
Chanlder is a low usage player. His strength is efficiency. You don’t need to actually run plays for him in the post. You can use Brook for that.
Oh pissing blimey there's jam coming out of the walls!
except Dirk >>>>> Brook. David West from 4 years ago >>>> Brook
The realist keepin it real amongst the surrealists
I was in Baghdad before these little B.G.'s was in they daddy-bags.
by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Nov 30, 2011 11:13 PM EST up reply actions
Well, Dirk is much better than Brook.
But Dirk won’t be a Net, so it’s irrelevant.
Oh pissing blimey there's jam coming out of the walls!
yeah so the fit is not going to be as smooth as you think
brook is not fit to be an NBA power forward, its a mess manifesting. but i believe BK is all smoke and mirrors on this to drive up TC’s asking price
The realist keepin it real amongst the surrealists
I was in Baghdad before these little B.G.'s was in they daddy-bags.
by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Nov 30, 2011 11:45 PM EST up reply actions
.6 from Chandler.
1.4 from Hump.
Meaning Tyson Chandler took less than 50 shots from over 16 feet all year. Not really showing off his jumper much like I said.
by Clayton Balch on Nov 30, 2011 10:50 PM EST up reply actions
.6(2) = 1.2 possible points per game generated by Chandler. 48% of that is .58 ppg.
1.4(2) = 2.8 possible points per game from Hump’s jumper. 38% is 1.06 ppg generated by Hump’s 16-23 ft jumper.
It’s a half point difference. I said Chandler was worse from 16-23, but the difference is negligible.
Chandler can certainly play Hump’s offensive role.
America doesn't run on Dunkin; it runs on Varitek.
MarShon Brooks has the dreaded.
He doesn't shoot jumpers though is my point.
He shot 44 jumpers all of last season, WHICH WAS HIS CAREER HIGH. He averaged .2 jumpers or less every year before that. Meaning Tyson Chandler has taken 16 or less jumpers per season every year of his career besides last year!
Your stats are actually very misleading because if you look at his shots from 10-15 he averaged .1 per game which is essentially nothing. Compared to humps .9 from the same distance, we know who actually can shoot jumpers and who can’t.
by Clayton Balch on Nov 30, 2011 11:19 PM EST up reply actions
Nene is a worse defender, soo…
one is better on offense and the other on defense
Pick your poison.
"I define passion as extreme emotion."
When you have to shoot, shoot don't talk.
Hilarious comment from a magic fan
Pretty sure if Griffin and Howard end up on the same team the world will end.
#WorstPartsOfTheBible
by Jtyler998 on Nov 30, 2011 12:06 PM PST up reply actions
If we can get Tyson for 10M...
BK probably wants TYoung as a combo forward and Crawford creating his own shot.
King is a stealth manager
LMAO someone called in right now saying
Knicks can get both CP3 and Dwight
OMGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG
by ItsAllNets on Nov 30, 2011 10:12 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
HA
Knick fan just said they could sign Nene, or Okafor for the vets min.
by nets14 on Nov 30, 2011 10:12 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
ha, yeh heard dat.
"I think I’m the best point guard in the league. No reason. I just think I’m the best.’’-Deron Williams.
Nene
1 Steals the ball dribbles down court for the dunk
2 Steals the ball dribbles down court for the dunk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pbveol9wJSs
Couple Q's about Chandler have to include
1) Can he play with Brook, and by that I mean with Lopez bumbling around the rim on defense & Put backs
2) does he want a max deal & if yes, is he worth it?
3) Would signing him to a huge deal block us from a significant upgrade at the 3 spot?
Were they saying "Boo" or "Boo-urns?"
@SlayerSantana on Twitter
These knicks fans are on crack how can they afford all these players?!!!!
Sign like 15 superstars..they are on crack…
Announcers enable these calls
by ItsAllNets on Nov 30, 2011 10:15 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
allll I
"I think I’m the best point guard in the league. No reason. I just think I’m the best.’’-Deron Williams.
Wow what a first stupid question
"I think I’m the best point guard in the league. No reason. I just think I’m the best.’’-Deron Williams.
He asked him about the 260 signatures
Basically answerd “how the f i’m i supposed to know, i only have news about the team i cover”.
"I think I’m the best point guard in the league. No reason. I just think I’m the best.’’-Deron Williams.
by JJ25 on Nov 30, 2011 10:23 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
let the Knicks fans be delusional,who cares?
They have $60.6M in contracts for this year in 10 players, not including rookies. Unless NO is willing to deal CP3 for Billups & Turiaf they have no move until next summer.
It’s up to Billy K to take advantage now
Were they saying "Boo" or "Boo-urns?"
@SlayerSantana on Twitter
It's a match made in heaven.
The Nets want to improve Defense and Rebounding, BK is looking for bigs, and D-Will has expressed a desire to play with him.
America doesn't run on Dunkin; it runs on Varitek.
MarShon Brooks has the dreaded.
by Maxyboy on Nov 30, 2011 10:21 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Chandler would help very marginally on this team with respect to defense and rebounding.
by Clayton Balch on Nov 30, 2011 10:25 PM EST up reply actions
Well I wouldn’t be sure if Hump only got that much rebounds because he was next to Brook. I’m not discrediting him but I’m saying if he was next to a substantial Center he probably would only avg 8 rebounds. Chandler might improve in his rebounds when alongside Brook, but I’d think defence would improve a good amount. Not a whole lot. But when you consider Nene his defence compared to Humphries is debatable but his offence is clearly superior.
I actually voted for Chandler over Nene based on the situation but really I like Nene better.
Hey NI
Any idea when the SB nation android app is set to come out?
thx
Nice way to kick off the new year lol
if it's anything like the iPhone app, it will suck anyway
sometimes i click a story, and get an article from 2008
deron williams is better than kyrie irving
by William_H_HOLLA on Nov 30, 2011 10:54 PM EST up reply actions
Wow it works great for me...
weird that you have that problem
by bronxbombers2 on Dec 1, 2011 10:19 AM EST up reply actions
I've been saying this ALL along but people for some odd reason LOVE Nene here
Chandler makes the most sense next to Brook.
In Prokhorov & Billy King WE TRUST.
8 > 3
DH12 OR BUST!
Official Member of the "Travis OutLOL Society". 5 years, 35 Million Dollars worth of lulz.
Chandler makes no sense next to Brook.
How can two centers playing together make sense?
by Clayton Balch on Nov 30, 2011 10:36 PM EST up reply actions
Chandler and Brook can play PF
King said today they are looking to play book at PF
In Prokhorov & Billy King WE TRUST.
8 > 3
DH12 OR BUST!
Official Member of the "Travis OutLOL Society". 5 years, 35 Million Dollars worth of lulz.
Which would be very detrimental to the team.
Brook continuously playing 15 feet from the hoop I don’t think will bode well for a successful season.
by Clayton Balch on Nov 30, 2011 10:42 PM EST up reply actions
Omg.. Did you even respond to what I said above. Please respond to that before you say he’s going to play from 15 feet again. I just don’t get it.
There's a center and a power forward.
The power forward spends most of the time playing away from the hoop. Obviously sometimes they post up and don’t play away from the hoop, but most of the time they are around 15-17 feet from the hoop.
by Clayton Balch on Nov 30, 2011 11:25 PM EST up reply actions
The Bobcats went to the playoffs when they signed Tyson Chandler and they struggled when he left.
The Mavericks were always right there but they never won a championship until Tyson Chandler showed up.
A dominant paint defender and a team leader. His teams play defense because of how intense he is. And consider this: if he wakes Brook Lopez up, it will either net the Nets Dwight Howard, or it will result in a dominant front line for the future.
by mytoemytoe on Nov 30, 2011 10:23 PM EST reply actions 11 recs
Chandler would make a bigger impact than NENE.
In Prokhorov & Billy King WE TRUST.
8 > 3
DH12 OR BUST!
Official Member of the "Travis OutLOL Society". 5 years, 35 Million Dollars worth of lulz.
good try, understand the point you want to make
Bobcats: Stephen Jackson, a healthy Gerald Wallace, and Ray Felton playing like he wanted big free agent money. the next year, felton gone, team tunes out Larry Brown, MJ trades away everyone for nothing because he is losing money
Mavs: Kidd, Marion, Butler, and Carlisle had a little to do with it as well.
You forgot about Chicago and New Orleans. You guys talking him up like he’s due max money and when he asks for 14+ million a year there should be no complaining then
The realist keepin it real amongst the surrealists
I was in Baghdad before these little B.G.'s was in they daddy-bags.
by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Nov 30, 2011 11:19 PM EST up reply actions
Chandler was a changed basketball player after spending one summer with Team USA
Much more active and determined.
With that being said I have two concerns:
1) His ability to play next to Lopez.
2) Injury history.
by ZR on Dec 1, 2011 9:13 AM EST up reply actions
i was just gonna say!
where do they get this from?!
by pope of lofe on Nov 30, 2011 10:27 PM EST up reply actions
they dont get it
two things l’ve learned so far:
every big man wants to play for the heat no matter the cost
every player wants to play for the Knicks against all odds
The realist keepin it real amongst the surrealists
I was in Baghdad before these little B.G.'s was in they daddy-bags.
by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Nov 30, 2011 10:41 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Look
I know we need a big man, and I know Chandler is big and can be a post presence, but in my opinion he is severely overated at this point in time.
Think about it: He’s no Dwight Howard, not even a Brook Lopez, yet he is being coveted as one of the best centers in the league. Remember, he didn’t have an MVP like season last year or even an all star like season. 10 ppg and 9reb are solid but not worth $12-14 million. He only avaeraged about a block per game and was a solid role player at best on a championship team.
I think people get this euphoria that just because someone recently won a championship they are a ton better than they were 20 minutes before they actually won the thing. I know he is one of the two top centers this offseason, but let’s all remember that he’s not a superstar.
by Barclays Center 2012 on Nov 30, 2011 10:26 PM EST reply actions
Disagree completely.
Chandler and Brook had a similar Player Efficiency Rating last year (18 to 19) and that stat doesn’t take defense into account, where Chandler is definitely superior to Lopez.
Chandler is better than Brook Lopez. He’s not Dwight Howard but he’s a damn good defensive center.
But is he worth $10 mil more than Lopez?
by Barclays Center 2012 on Nov 30, 2011 10:34 PM EST up reply actions
4 million dollars is just Lopez’ rookie contract, you’re dreaming if you don’t think he’s getting a huge pay day from some team.
His contract is up after this year and the Nets will have the option to re-sign him, fortunately not to a max because he’s yet to make an all star game.
Brook will get 12-15mill per
In Prokhorov & Billy King WE TRUST.
8 > 3
DH12 OR BUST!
Official Member of the "Travis OutLOL Society". 5 years, 35 Million Dollars worth of lulz.
by Claud on Nov 30, 2011 10:41 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
1. Lopez earns $3,076,000
2. Lopez>Chandler are you kidding?!?! The man only played 3 years, and has so much potential. Lets not base his career on one year and look at how wonderful he was in his 1st and 2nd year. He blocked shots, rebounded, and scored. He even put the ball on the floor and scored which Chandler is so incapable of doing.
Lopez has the best post game in my opinion in the nba, he just needs to work on the rest of his game. Well mostly his softness.
if you think Lopez wont get at least 90% of a max deal
pass that over here so i can hit that
The realist keepin it real amongst the surrealists
I was in Baghdad before these little B.G.'s was in they daddy-bags.
by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Nov 30, 2011 11:21 PM EST up reply actions
Otis will trade Dwight to us...
I believe!!!
by rundmc00 on Nov 30, 2011 10:27 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Starting to look like
Chandler, Prince and Redd more and more and more.
"I think I’m the best point guard in the league. No reason. I just think I’m the best.’’-Deron Williams.
Redd?...
That millisecond you're sure you're going to die when you lean back in your chair a little to far.
I think we underestimate Billy
He’s not just going to dish out plain old contracts in hopes of being the #7 seed every year. He’s gonna go for it all, so unless Prince comes for the MLE, we ain’t signing him and unless someone would be enticing to ORL, we ain’t signing him.
by Barclays Center 2012 on Nov 30, 2011 10:31 PM EST up reply actions
the arguement against Nene, for the most part, seems to be that he will be overpaid
unfortunately there’s no guarantee that Chandler will come at a “fair” price
and Redd and Prince.
"I think I’m the best point guard in the league. No reason. I just think I’m the best.’’-Deron Williams.
Birthdays
Nene: Sept. 13, 1982
Tyson Chandler: Oct. 2, 1982
They’re the same age: 29.
NetsDaily.com
by NetsDaily on Nov 30, 2011 10:29 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
I have no idea why I thought Chandler was 31
I think it's fine.
by NetsMets4Life on Nov 30, 2011 10:30 PM EST up reply actions
If they were cartons of milk,
then 19 days would mean something.
They’re the same age.
NetsDaily.com
by NetsDaily on Nov 30, 2011 10:35 PM EST up reply actions 12 recs
rec’d
"This isn’t fantasy or rotisserie basketball. Why would Denver want Outlaw? Would you?" - Al Iannazzone
by strange-brew on Nov 30, 2011 10:38 PM EST up reply actions
That was funny
"I think I’m the best point guard in the league. No reason. I just think I’m the best.’’-Deron Williams.
The only thing that matters as previously said is Nene has more mileage. In that respect Chandler still has the edge.
Chandler has more mileage...
… came into the league a year earlier.
Both have had health issues over their career.
Chandler Ak47 Hump
Bring back the Hump
Sign Chandler
Sign AK47.
See if Redd or Roy is amnestied and grab either of them up!
Has anyone mentioned if Butler was healthy?
by power_njerz on Nov 30, 2011 10:33 PM EST up reply actions
he was close to 100% at the end of the finals
but hasnt did any contact drills yet to my knowledge or played in any charity games
The realist keepin it real amongst the surrealists
I was in Baghdad before these little B.G.'s was in they daddy-bags.
by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Nov 30, 2011 10:44 PM EST up reply actions
Nets might get Caron and Tyson take two people from the mavs
And then give the most important one to them in 2012…
by vincecarter4pres on Dec 1, 2011 12:31 AM EST up reply actions
Explain your Vote and Why..
I voted for Chandler only on the premise that it doesnt seem like we will be getting Dwight. Nene i dont view as a big time player and Chandler has that Kmart flair the Nets have been missing.
Him Lopez and Either Ak47 or Prince would be an athletic big frontline.
Chandler has that Kmart flair the Nets have been missing.
Exactly what I thought, just not as falmboyant or creative.
- Don’t agree with Nene not being a big time player. I think its just that he’s never been near a championsip contension is why. But I’d blame it on Melo, you can’t win a championship when your best player plays no defense. Show me an example where a team has one a championship and their best player is bad on defence.
I agree about Nene
He’s been stuck with “me first” players his whole career. Iverson and Melo most notably. KMart has never stayed healthy for them. He’s incredibly efficient and I think would fit well next to Lopez.
by ZR on Dec 1, 2011 9:17 AM EST up reply actions
Chandler leading todays poll? What the happened? This news really swayed votes.
@ HowardBeckNYT
Deal done, source says. NBA is back.
-November 26th, 3:17 am.
I think everybody mostly assumed Chandler was going back to Dallas. But he’s trying to get paid and I hope the Nets don’t pay him TOO much. I think 14 million is probably pushing it for Tyson but I think the idea of Chandler as the defensive big man and Lopez as the offensive big man could be a very troublesome combo for other teams.
Slightly different question.
First was who should be the priority. Second is who would you prefer.
NetsDaily.com
chandler is a better option because he won't command a max salary
and i love the dude’s game. i am just too high on dwight rumors right now to really care to be honest.
deron williams is better than kyrie irving
by William_H_HOLLA on Nov 30, 2011 10:34 PM EST reply actions
Denver Nuggets General Manager Masai Ujiri said he will try to re-sign free agents Nene and Arron Afflalo when teams can agree to terms with players starting Dec. 9.
sign Chandler!
Brooklyn we go hard...
as we saw he is a terrible GM
I disagree with most and still believe that they totally bungled the melo trade. Nets package was much better.
by tategeorge on Nov 30, 2011 10:38 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Chandler and TYoung would actually be a nice fit
by rundmc00 on Nov 30, 2011 10:36 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
He is 23...always very efficient...
And athletic/good defender.
The opposite of Outlaw.
by rundmc00 on Nov 30, 2011 10:41 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
He's also overrated and there are rumors he will be asking
for big time money. Im talking 6 years, 65 million (if not mroe
He's a solid 3/4 tweener bench big, that is what he excels at.
He’ll be a train wreck as a starting small forward.
by vincecarter4pres on Dec 1, 2011 12:32 AM EST up reply actions
read he's looking for 7-8 range
FRANKS AND BEANS FRANKS AND BEANS
by lemmetakeutodamovies on Dec 1, 2011 12:37 AM EST up reply actions
absolutely no spacing at all
young and chandler both live under the rim, thus forcing lopez to settle for more jumpers to try and space the floor
The realist keepin it real amongst the surrealists
I was in Baghdad before these little B.G.'s was in they daddy-bags.
by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Nov 30, 2011 10:46 PM EST up reply actions
We have D James, dont need young.
"Success is peace of mind which is a direct result of self-satisfaction in knowing you did your best to become the best that you are capable of becoming." - John R. Wooden
by D Will to Succeed on Nov 30, 2011 10:51 PM EST up reply actions
a lot of people are misconstruing chandler's defensive impact
yes he plays great team defense. and yes he guards other back-to-basket bigs well.
but people here are saying he will guard PF’s? with how the game has transformed to a faceup game for the 4’s he would get destroyed 15+ feet out in man defense. Go find any tape of him locking up a PF outside the paint in Chicago, New Orleans, Charlotte, or Dallas.
Just because the man can fly up and catch a lob or block a shot does not make him a phenomenal 1-on-1 defender in Iso against a stoudemire, bosh, west, aldridge. Otherwise Blake Griffin and Deandre Jordan would be a reincarnation of Bill Russell and Mark Eaton.
I remember most of last season the Mavs running a ton of zone and normally leaving Chandler in the paint under the rim where he belonged and Dirk/Marion would take turns guarding the PF outside the paint.
Do you guys really think we could effectively run a successful zone scheme all year? Or would be able to just toss Chandler out there every night and tell him to guard Bosh, Stoudemire, Smith, Boozer, other quick-feet PF’s from the west 1-on-1 more than 12 feet from the basket?
The realist keepin it real amongst the surrealists
I was in Baghdad before these little B.G.'s was in they daddy-bags.
by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Nov 30, 2011 10:37 PM EST reply actions 2 recs
Actually, I just went back this last week or so and watched 2 games from the Finals and one Portland game.
He guarded Bosh and LMA a majority of the time he was on the floor with Dirk and Dirk guarded Joel Anthony and Camby…
by vincecarter4pres on Dec 1, 2011 12:33 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I'm going to be on respirator by December 9
"It's as sweet as it ever was, I'll tell you. Now, hopefully, we started something and we can win some more championships, but we're going to enjoy this one right now. Have a little champagne." --Julius Erving, May 12, 1976, ABA champion Nets locker room.
by Net Income on Nov 30, 2011 10:38 PM EST reply actions 5 recs
Take it easy gramps...
You are doing a great job.
You may have actually been right with the Dwight hype!
you just jinxed it
dwight to NYK, book it
deron williams is better than kyrie irving
by William_H_HOLLA on Nov 30, 2011 10:40 PM EST up reply actions
lol
"Success is peace of mind which is a direct result of self-satisfaction in knowing you did your best to become the best that you are capable of becoming." - John R. Wooden
by D Will to Succeed on Nov 30, 2011 10:54 PM EST up reply actions
i feel like cartman
when he couldn’t wait for the Wii and froze himself
FRANKS AND BEANS FRANKS AND BEANS
by lemmetakeutodamovies on Nov 30, 2011 11:32 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Nene fits better next to Brook and can score when Brook is resting...
I would take Nene if the price is reasonable
In Paris, sending an email later today
Section 18, Row 7 at The Rock!
"Your 2010-2011 New Jersey Nets - It Is What It Is"
"agreements in principle"
"Rooting for the Yankees is like rooting for Steve Jobs to win the lotto." - Chris Rock
The NBA - Where 2012 doesn't happen
Patrick Ewing - The NBA's all-time leader in rushing yards
Yes...
Minnesota will pull a Garnett and do what is right.
And Billy and Otis are good friends.
Billy is a god.
Seriously
Billy has been nothing but great since he arrived here.
by dwill8brooklynbound on Nov 30, 2011 10:43 PM EST up reply actions
Not just great...
But total class.
I was against him but he may be the best in the game.
FA class relatively sucks...
But being the only desirable location with money is huge.
What's more of a possibility
having to pay more to battle for Nene and Chandler, or one of them taking less to come to the nets.
"I think I’m the best point guard in the league. No reason. I just think I’m the best.’’-Deron Williams.
for everyone thats sits on this forum and
clown the knicks by saying … knicks fans thinks everybody wants to come here because its the mecca…. what do you think we’re doing when we say everybody wants to play in our shiny new building???
speaking before you think can have severe consequences, however doing it in reverse can have beautiful results!
they wants the money
they wants a big market, they wants to play with another superstars.
We got Procky..his money and the cap space, we got a new arena in Brooklyn (big market) and we got Deron Williams
Brooklyn we go hard...
by Fabio Villani on Nov 30, 2011 10:47 PM EST up reply actions
Difference is we think guys like Nene and Chandler want to come here
They think they will have a lineup of:
Cp3
Kobe (vet min)
Mela
Amare
Dwight
Coach: Phil Jackson
by dwill8brooklynbound on Nov 30, 2011 10:48 PM EST up reply actions
i mean the reports are coming from agents, and the players mouths
Have not heard one (significant on top of that) free agent say they want to go to the knicks yet. not even last year no one was looking at them. they had to give stoudemire 100 mil with those uninsured knees to make noise
The realist keepin it real amongst the surrealists
I was in Baghdad before these little B.G.'s was in they daddy-bags.
by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Nov 30, 2011 10:48 PM EST up reply actions
Most of the crew is back.
"I think I’m the best point guard in the league. No reason. I just think I’m the best.’’-Deron Williams.
Amen to that...
but major props to NI for at least streaming SOME semblance of news
by bronxbombers2 on Nov 30, 2011 11:17 PM EST up reply actions
I know exactly what the Mavs are doing.
They arent calling Butler or Barea. Chandler aint going back. They are clearing space for next years FA.
but what will they have left
other than a 35 year old Dirk, an injury prone Beaubois, a 33 year old Jet
"It's as sweet as it ever was, I'll tell you. Now, hopefully, we started something and we can win some more championships, but we're going to enjoy this one right now. Have a little champagne." --Julius Erving, May 12, 1976, ABA champion Nets locker room.
by Net Income on Nov 30, 2011 10:49 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Cuban has no choice
basically let everyone go this year, hope for a fluke run, then try and pick up some RFA’s next year when terry and kidd expire
The realist keepin it real amongst the surrealists
I was in Baghdad before these little B.G.'s was in they daddy-bags.
by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Nov 30, 2011 10:50 PM EST up reply actions
the one reasonable thing he can do is give haywood the amnesty
and sign a cheaper alternative at center. thats if he loses out on chandler
The realist keepin it real amongst the surrealists
I was in Baghdad before these little B.G.'s was in they daddy-bags.
by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Nov 30, 2011 10:52 PM EST up reply actions
they will likely keep Haywood this year as a stopgap
and then amnesty him next year—saves money, allows a splash for 2012.. I think its scary if Dallas is under the cap..
it's too bad dirk is 33 and not 23 or they might worry me
deron williams is better than kyrie irving
by William_H_HOLLA on Nov 30, 2011 10:49 PM EST up reply actions
D-Will supposedly won't join them without Dirk and Chandler so we don't have to worry about that.
America doesn't run on Dunkin; it runs on Varitek.
MarShon Brooks has the dreaded.
Why would they break up a championship team?
I don’t get it. You don’t fix something that’s not broken.
2010-2011 = acquire an All-Star via cap space as Thorn himself said
2011-2012 = make the playoffs without hindering future flexibility
2012 off-season = sign the second All-Star
2012-2013 = make a run for the championship
Mission accomplished thus far.
ESPN radio is hilarious!!
radio host telling Knicks fans…we can’t even afford Samuel Dalembert why are talking about Chris Paul?
Knicks fans are left speechless
@ HowardBeckNYT
Deal done, source says. NBA is back.
-November 26th, 3:17 am.
by Andy. on Nov 30, 2011 10:49 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
they don't operate in the realm of human logic and reasoning
which is what makes them so funny
deron williams is better than kyrie irving
by William_H_HOLLA on Nov 30, 2011 10:50 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
b/c they're believers in faith
They don’t need cap room, God will make it happen
by Murse Mike on Nov 30, 2011 10:55 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
At least we can...
Be hopeful over next week! Until we’re let down.
People...
NYC is the greatest city in the US (if not the world). Brooklyn has serious brand recognition and swagger. We have the newest, most expensive arena. We have the richest owner that just spent big bucks on two high profile assistants. We have Deron.
F duh mecca and Cuban…WE ARE THE DESTINATION OF CHOICE!
Friggin Dwight Howard said he wants to play with Morrow!!!!!!!!!!
by rundmc00 on Nov 30, 2011 10:51 PM EST reply actions 5 recs
Trust me
I’ve watched an equal amount of Mavs games as Nets Games mainly because my Brother is a Mavs fan, we need this guy.
oh the playoffs?
The realist keepin it real amongst the surrealists
I was in Baghdad before these little B.G.'s was in they daddy-bags.
by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Nov 30, 2011 10:53 PM EST up reply actions
Nene is also a beast...
A leader in advanced defensive stats. Incredible efficient offensively. He is worth close to max.
I remember Chandler
when he was in New Orleans. He really dominated a guy named Tim Duncan in a playoff series. Brook and Chandler matchup very well
Brooklyn we go hard...
by Fabio Villani on Nov 30, 2011 10:54 PM EST up reply actions
This Knicks fan on 1050 JUST SAID
- They’ll get Chris Paul at PG
- Tyson Chandler at C
- Tayshaun Prince as a backup SF
LMFAO
Kyrie Irving to the Knicks in 2015!
They think everyone is going there
If that was a Net fan we would think they werent serious, but that guy is serious
by RandyOreens on Nov 30, 2011 10:55 PM EST up reply actions
someone from here should call in pretending to be a knicks fan
with the most ridiculous scenario possible to see what their tipping point for ridicule is. apparently CP3 AND Dwight isn’t enough
by sheepareevil on Nov 30, 2011 11:55 PM EST up reply actions
The Mavs aren't interested in resigning Changler?
That’s dumb. I mean, they just put their 2011-2012 season to waste.
And I don’t like Chandler on this team, Brook needs to be the Center on offense and defense. Bringing in an offensively challenged Center is only going to kill any momentum Lopez built last season. It’s not like Chandler is a beast either. Yes he defends, but his rebounding numbers and blocking numbers are pretty average for a guy who’s 7’1" and whose only job is to block and rebound
I understand that
but for a guy who’s paid to defend, rebound, and block shots, he only excels at one of those things.
You don’t have to block shots if you can make people miss by changing their shots. That’s what the best defensive players in the NBA do.
No, altering a shot doesn't making someone a shot blocker
physically interfering with the path of the ball does. A 6’ PG alters shots too, but no one would call him a shot blocker. Shot blockers are extra valuable because they take altering shots to another level.
but you dont have to be a shot blocker to be an excellent defender
of course PG’s dont go up block shots. unless its nate rob on yao. if so then amare would be one of the best defenders in the game
The realist keepin it real amongst the surrealists
I was in Baghdad before these little B.G.'s was in they daddy-bags.
by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Nov 30, 2011 11:28 PM EST up reply actions
Hello guys and gals! I hear we have a Nets season after all!
Where is Gerald Wallace when you need a small forward?
LETS GO NETS!
Are we all so on the Dwight bandwagon?
I think he’s too good of a Center to pass up in trade—but we should put this week to good use and not end up with nothing by next Friday. If Otis wants to trade D12 to us, then do it. If not, let’s use our cap space now and amnesty Outlaw later and then go for the trade.
by Ccrules2791 on Nov 30, 2011 10:57 PM EST up reply actions
After watching those Mavs highlights, it showed me how excited Kidd got by lobbing those alley oops up for Chandler
He hadn’t been like that since the Kmart days!
LETS GO NETS!
And by letting Chandler walk
Kidd might as well retire. The Mavericks just told everyone that they don’t care at all about this season and that they’ll allow Kidd to waste the last year of his contract on a team without a chance of winning
40 milion for 5 years?
Brooklyn we go hard...
by Fabio Villani on Nov 30, 2011 10:59 PM EST up reply actions
60 million 5 years
"I think I’m the best point guard in the league. No reason. I just think I’m the best.’’-Deron Williams.
think 60 million
if he wanted 10 million a year then these rumors would be moot.
The realist keepin it real amongst the surrealists
I was in Baghdad before these little B.G.'s was in they daddy-bags.
by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Nov 30, 2011 11:31 PM EST up reply actions
50 million for 4
40’s too low and 60 too high. 50 would average around 12-13 a year, which was around what he made his last year — and what he had been asking for was an extension.
I would say that's about right
Probably market rate but overpaying. These contracts will decrease in average value in a couple of years once the constraints of the new CBA are felt.
by BrooklynNets on Dec 1, 2011 10:24 AM EST up reply actions
By the way in case anybody missed it, from the same Stephenson article:
“Lower on the priority list is a small forward, and Thaddeus Young, a restricted free agent from Philadelphia, is believed to be on King’s wish list. King did admit today he is interested in some restricted free agents, in addition to unrestricted free agents.”
Not surprising.
People from the Nets organization have said they like him before and BK drafted him.
He would be expensive though and is probably not worth it,
America doesn't run on Dunkin; it runs on Varitek.
MarShon Brooks has the dreaded.
Haha everyone somehow entirely forgot about Thad.
After we were going crazy over him six months ago.
I forgot about him because I never really saw him play.
Still haven’t.
He was an efficient scorer which boosted his PER numbers last season, although I haven’t read much praise of his defensive abilities. The Nets would probably have to over-pay to get him restricted and he’s not worth over-paying for.
He'll be a disaster here.
Tweener bench player. Bad outside shooter, suspect handle.
He’s a force turnovers and get out and run guy.
Occasionally creates off the dribble but only against bench 4’s.
So so midrange shooter.
Decent slasher.
He was their starting 4 for a season.
Train wreck waiting to happen, he’ll be the new Outlaw.
I’ll become a Knicks fan if we sign this guy.
by vincecarter4pres on Dec 1, 2011 12:42 AM EST up reply actions
NO!
I’ll become a Knicks fan if we sign this guy.
cuz I have a feeling we might haha
FRANKS AND BEANS FRANKS AND BEANS
by lemmetakeutodamovies on Dec 1, 2011 12:45 AM EST up reply actions
Best NeNe mix
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ays9bZnKXkA&feature=related
he dunks everything on any body
he has hops
passes the ball
defends the paint
blocks shots
soft touch inside
fearless
quick feet plys soccer
by DJ HeavyDuty on Nov 30, 2011 11:00 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Nene stronger than Chandler. But, Chandler has more length which helps w/ rebounding and defense.
@ HowardBeckNYT
Deal done, source says. NBA is back.
-November 26th, 3:17 am.
nene moves bodies with size and still has ups
by DJ HeavyDuty on Nov 30, 2011 11:11 PM EST up reply actions
Chandler rebounds much better.
America doesn't run on Dunkin; it runs on Varitek.
MarShon Brooks has the dreaded.
What were the deficiencies of the Nets last year after the D-Will trade?
Rebounding and defense.
Who fulfills that need more, Chandler or Nene?
America doesn't run on Dunkin; it runs on Varitek.
MarShon Brooks has the dreaded.
denver had a stacked frontcourt
nene had 2 less boards whhoooppeeee
by DJ HeavyDuty on Nov 30, 2011 11:26 PM EST up reply actions
definciencies
if we are going on raw talent then everything was a deficiency. so almost every top free agent would be an upgrade.
The realist keepin it real amongst the surrealists
I was in Baghdad before these little B.G.'s was in they daddy-bags.
by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Nov 30, 2011 11:35 PM EST up reply actions
12 and 7 versus 8 and 9
okay, if we are going to go this route
The realist keepin it real amongst the surrealists
I was in Baghdad before these little B.G.'s was in they daddy-bags.
by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Nov 30, 2011 11:36 PM EST up reply actions
There's a big difference between 7.5 ORB% and 20.8 DRB% for Nene. 14.4 TRB%
and 12.2 ORB% and 26.6 DRB% for Chandler. 19.7 TRB%
Nene had a lower ORB% than Brook.
For comparison’s sake,
Dwight: 12.6 ORB% 30.6 DRB% 21.8 TRB%
America doesn't run on Dunkin; it runs on Varitek.
MarShon Brooks has the dreaded.
sample size
list the nuggets top 6 rebounders and then compare to Dallas top 6(lacking) rebounders
list me how efficient the nuggets offense was(aka how many shots they didnt miss) and how horrendous the nets offense was(how many shots they missed)
the nuggets were 5th in defensive rebounding and a better rebounding team overall than Dallas. care to evaluate?
The realist keepin it real amongst the surrealists
I was in Baghdad before these little B.G.'s was in they daddy-bags.
by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Nov 30, 2011 11:55 PM EST up reply actions
NYC is the best city in the world????
highly arguable… have you seen the rats out there … some of them are bigger than cats, there is a huge infestation, not to mention that raccoon’s are starting to emerge. aside from all the flashy lights… new york is regular. i used to hate going to ny. i mean its ok to go play in, but after that im flying back across the tunnel/bridge to my quiet town (edison)
speaking before you think can have severe consequences, however doing it in reverse can have beautiful results!
by Mike28Live on Nov 30, 2011 11:01 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Your opinion is not shared by people from all over the world that come to visit...
And homeowners that spend over $1,000 per square foot for an apartment.
I'm with mike28
can’t stand nyc. love New Orleans though. the food/people/music is like no other.
by soul driver on Nov 30, 2011 11:05 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
i guess thats the problem ..
jersey hotdog and soda 1.50, ny …arm and leg lol
to get into jersey from ny free vice versa 12 dollars
cigarettes jersey 8 dollars ny 12 dollars
and dont let me get started with the taxes ridiculous
NY is overrated.. but im a forever nets fan whether its brooklyn or jersey..
speaking before you think can have severe consequences, however doing it in reverse can have beautiful results!
the problem is that people never count the cost of living as a strike against NY
instead they use it as evidence as to why it’s the best… NY is a great city for many reasons, but that isn’t one of them.
by sheepareevil on Nov 30, 2011 11:57 PM EST up reply actions
taxes are not necessarily bad
Gas should be taxed high, to encourage folks to take public transportation and carpools or to buy fuel-efficient cars. Cigarette prices should be $15 a pack to discourage folks from smoking and to help pay for the market spike in medical insurance caused by health concerns related to smoking. If you’re paying more than $3 for a hot dog and a soda, you’re eating at the wrong place whether you’re in NY or NJ or wherever.
There are plenty of nice, affordable places in the entirety of NYC that you clearly need to explore; it’s more than just Manhattan. Parts of anywhere are overrated, but NYC has more exotic, enticing, incongruous parts off the beaten path to explore than most US cities. Don’t blame the city and call it overrated because you haven’t taken the time to explore it.
I’m with mike28
can’t stand nyc. love New Orleans though. the food/people/music is like no other.
I’ll take one of each please.
by vincecarter4pres on Dec 1, 2011 12:43 AM EST up reply actions
Sydney, Austrailia is one of the best cities in the world...
…and they have big, big bats hanging in the trees that could carry off two of those rats for dinner.
not "that" Jersey Shore...Point Pleasant, 10 refreshing miles north of Seaside.
by John at the Jersey Shore on Nov 30, 2011 11:32 PM EST up reply actions
I feel like
there are a lot of Central Jersey people here (that is, if you consider that an actual place)
by bronxbombers2 on Dec 1, 2011 12:20 AM EST up reply actions
highlights don't mean ish
I remember all the Outlaw highlights floating around after his signing.
I love the Nets...too bad they don't love me...
by BEB on Nov 30, 2011 11:22 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
I like how Humphries is barely even discussed around here anymore
we got our sight on bigger things…
by sheepareevil on Nov 30, 2011 11:59 PM EST up reply actions
Any thoughts on SF?
And Does Nene Play PF or Center? Any move involve leaving Brook at his natural position?
if bogdanovic isnt traded he will be a SF next year
James JHoward and hedo next year
by DJ HeavyDuty on Nov 30, 2011 11:13 PM EST up reply actions
I think Nene is less likely to come here than Chandler. The Nuggets are going to make a big offer to Nene because they have absolutely no one on their roster. Chandler has to go elsewhere to get his payday.
because nene is going to re-sign with a team he felt got disrespected by that appears to be headed towards a major rebuild
and Chandler does not have to go elswhere. its a matter of Cuban willing to give him more than 11 or so million a year
The realist keepin it real amongst the surrealists
I was in Baghdad before these little B.G.'s was in they daddy-bags.
by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Nov 30, 2011 11:39 PM EST up reply actions
I think the Nuggets are going to...
by vincecarter4pres on Dec 1, 2011 12:46 AM EST up reply actions
I have 75 African
"Success is peace of mind which is a direct result of self-satisfaction in knowing you did your best to become the best that you are capable of becoming." - John R. Wooden
by D Will to Succeed on Dec 1, 2011 2:16 AM EST up reply actions
I'm happy with whichever one costs less
"I just copped me an all-things, a professional ball team
Tell me I ain't the illest hustler ya'll seen"
by onegallant on Nov 30, 2011 11:13 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
My head hurts. Came home from practice and I am now depriving my self of sleep.
I really just hope a trade could get done on Dec 9 or the signing of Chaandler/Nene/Hump/etc gets resolved quickly. I’m really excited.
Good night fellow nets fans.
You guys really think Chandler would get 12 million a year? Nene yes, but, I think that is a little high for Chandler.
LETS GO NETS!
Chandler got 12 million last year
he’s not getting one cent less than that with the value he’s built up in the playoff run.
Nene vs. Chandler
1. Defense on PF’s – I would expect it to be close
2. Pick and roll game – close (alley-oop finish versus the bounce pass and flush with either hammer)
3. Pick and pop – Nene
4. Post game – Nene
5. Driving/dribbling – Nene
6. Passing – Nene
7. Spacing for Brook when he has the ball where he’s most effective – Nene
Chandler is terrific beside Dirk for his D against centers and because Dirk works from the mid post and can just shoot a fade on anyone so he’s always ready to crash ….. but for this team Nene is the better fit imo.
"This isn’t fantasy or rotisserie basketball. Why would Denver want Outlaw? Would you?" - Al Iannazzone
by strange-brew on Nov 30, 2011 11:20 PM EST reply actions 5 recs
yes, people want brook to morph into dirk. brook is not that, he needs to live in the paint as much as he can
The realist keepin it real amongst the surrealists
I was in Baghdad before these little B.G.'s was in they daddy-bags.
by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Nov 30, 2011 11:41 PM EST up reply actions
nooo no no.
Brook has the offensive game already. did you not notice how much we struggled on defense especially at the end of the season? Chandler is the perfect guy to fix that (well, other than the obvious #1 choice).
by sheepareevil on Dec 1, 2011 12:01 AM EST up reply actions
I think Nene is quicker.
"I think I’m the best point guard in the league. No reason. I just think I’m the best.’’-Deron Williams.
Nene is strong and has a mean streak.
He’s tough. The Nets need a guy like that.
Oh pissing blimey there's jam coming out of the walls!
Hey, as long as we don't see this:
PG- Devin Harris, Keyon Dooling, Raefor Alston
SG- Courtney Lee, Jarvis Hayes
SF- Terrence Williams, Bobby Simmons, Trenton Hassell
PF- Yi Jianlian, Sean Williams, Tony Battie, Edjuardo Najera
C- Brook Lopez, Josh Boone
LETS GO NETS!
by JustinNJ on Nov 30, 2011 11:25 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
And I thought that was a solid team.
"I think I’m the best point guard in the league. No reason. I just think I’m the best.’’-Deron Williams.
Holy ****
that is disgusting… though I do love Jarvis Hayes
by bronxbombers2 on Dec 1, 2011 1:12 AM EST up reply actions
Loved Hayes
And I do STILL love Dooling. That guy was solid.
On paper that team should've been so much better
Amazingly athletic across the board. What a shame.
by ZR on Dec 1, 2011 9:23 AM EST up reply actions
Wait if we sign Chandler
can we still take back Turk’s contract if needed?
"Some things you just can't question. Like you can't question why two plus two is four. So don't question it, don't try to look it up. I don't know who made it, all I know is it was put in my head that two plus two is four. So certain things happen. Why does it rain? Why am I so sexy? I don't know." - Shaquille O'Neal
by CinnamonToastCrunch on Nov 30, 2011 11:31 PM EST reply actions
question for NetIncome
how much do the Nets HAVE to spend before the season begins? I know the new CBA wants teams to send at least 85% of the cap or something if I am not mistaken..
FRANKS AND BEANS FRANKS AND BEANS
by lemmetakeutodamovies on Nov 30, 2011 11:38 PM EST reply actions
With or without an amnesty for Outlaw ?
"This isn’t fantasy or rotisserie basketball. Why would Denver want Outlaw? Would you?" - Al Iannazzone
by strange-brew on Nov 30, 2011 11:40 PM EST up reply actions
both if you've got the info :D
FRANKS AND BEANS FRANKS AND BEANS
by lemmetakeutodamovies on Nov 30, 2011 11:48 PM EST up reply actions
You don't have to spend a certain amount before the season.
You have to meet the 85% salary floor by the end though.
by vincecarter4pres on Dec 1, 2011 12:47 AM EST up reply actions
My fellow Nets fans:
As I have expressed numerous times, Nene is a better all around player than Tyson, better fit for our team and a more compatible player alongside Brook.
"Success is peace of mind which is a direct result of self-satisfaction in knowing you did your best to become the best that you are capable of becoming." - John R. Wooden
by D Will to Succeed on Nov 30, 2011 11:40 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
I want Nene
but would be content with Chandler
FRANKS AND BEANS FRANKS AND BEANS
by lemmetakeutodamovies on Nov 30, 2011 11:49 PM EST up reply actions
Brook to me is the 5. He is not quick enough on his feet to defend power forwards.
Brook is more efficient when he uses his skills and big frrame inside around the basket! THROW IT DOWN BIG MAN! Brook, although capable of shooting from all over the court, can’t forget he is most dominate inside! ATTACK and get to the free throw line!
LETS GO NETS!
Makes it suspect to me
Section 18, Row 7 at The Rock!
"Your 2010-2011 New Jersey Nets - It Is What It Is"
While I like Chandler and what he brings...
He’s a true center, no?
Where as Nene is a PF, no?
Could a Lopez/Chandler frontcourt duo work?
Someone explain how…I’m open…
I could see Brook switching to PF a la Tim Duncan if we get Chandler. didn’t he play PF with Robin?
I think the more important thing is how their game compliments each other. Brook is very offensively skilled, but not so good at rebounding or defense. Chandler is all rebounding and defense. If we go for Nene, out interior D would be awful.
by sheepareevil on Dec 1, 2011 12:08 AM EST up reply actions
not the impression I've gotten
remember he’s been playing for George Karl. doesn’t mean he couldn’t be effective in a good defensive system but I don’t trust him, I’d much rather go with Chandler
by sheepareevil on Dec 1, 2011 12:13 AM EST up reply actions
because scott skiles, byron scott, larry brown, and rick carlisle never had solid defensive systems
it was always the players.
The realist keepin it real amongst the surrealists
I was in Baghdad before these little B.G.'s was in they daddy-bags.
by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Dec 1, 2011 12:44 AM EST up reply actions
Nene is an awesome defender.
One of the best big man steals guys too and I’m talking ripping it right out of the hands of a face up power forward mid pump fake, not just passing lanes.
by vincecarter4pres on Dec 1, 2011 1:02 AM EST up reply actions
tim duncan is a PF converted to C that always played back-to-basket fundamental basketball
and this isnt college. Most PF’s in the nba can put the ball on the floor and dribble-drive with quickness
The realist keepin it real amongst the surrealists
I was in Baghdad before these little B.G.'s was in they daddy-bags.
by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Dec 1, 2011 12:46 AM EST up reply actions
I feel like Chandler would be the best thing that ever happened to Brook Lopez
He could use him barking in his ear and showing him how a man plays down low. Chandler and Lopez would be a ill combo and Brook would be freed up on offense to play his game. I really really want Dwight, but with Chandler as a plan B at least I don’t feel like it’s nuclear winter again if we miss out like when Melo got traded to the Knicks. With Melo we reeked of desperation, now we are in the driver seat with Orlando. The leak tactic was genius, we all know who was behind the leak and now. Well see how the chips fall…but well played Billy
I'm a big Nene fan but this guy doesnt know his basketball. Off the top, Lopez is better than Nene offensively.
David Locke: Free Agency – I have Nene ranked as the #2 offensive center in the NBA behind only Dwight Howard 3 minutes ago
Read more: http://hoopshype.com/twitter/media.html#ixzz1fFxJHAQh
"Success is peace of mind which is a direct result of self-satisfaction in knowing you did your best to become the best that you are capable of becoming." - John R. Wooden
by D Will to Succeed on Dec 1, 2011 12:06 AM EST reply actions
Nene is really good.
It depends on who you ask (and how much they believe in advanced metrics). Nene is a lower usage guy (he doesn’t take as many shots as Lopez), but he’s super efficient. He was number one in the league in FG%.
Oh pissing blimey there's jam coming out of the walls!
FG%, TS%, eFG%, USG%. go ahead and compare Nene to Brook in all four categories. you can throw in OWS as well if you want.
The realist keepin it real amongst the surrealists
I was in Baghdad before these little B.G.'s was in they daddy-bags.
by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Dec 1, 2011 12:48 AM EST up reply actions
lol
"We're not talking about me and Darko in the same sentence." - Chris Webber vs KAHN!
by caseycheesecake on Dec 1, 2011 11:41 AM EST up reply actions
I think he's saying in terms of skills.
Because I don’t think you can make a strong argument based on the results so far.
If Brook remains a Net, he really needs to bounce back to his Sophomore production. At least. Otherwise, the Nets won’t be able to lean on him going forward.
Oh pissing blimey there's jam coming out of the walls!
He could be b/c he has the tools but I don't think he is there yet.
He needs to improve his ability to get to the basket before I can call him the best. His game regressed a bit last year and settled to for to many 15 footers
by SovietBrooklyn on Dec 1, 2011 12:14 AM EST up reply actions
He did regress, until the end of the season and he had a swagger about him!
He has the offensive skill set to be the best in the game. To me, Kevin Love is a power forward. Andrew Bogat is the only one that would be close offensively to Brook. Dwight just dunks the ball.
LETS GO NETS!
That's like saying Bargnani is the best offensive C in the game.
because he has the skills and range.
Clearly, stats like efficiency matter.
"We're not talking about me and Darko in the same sentence." - Chris Webber vs KAHN!
by caseycheesecake on Dec 1, 2011 11:42 AM EST up reply actions
Bargnani comparison...
Not that again.
This guy…
by vincecarter4pres on Dec 1, 2011 12:40 PM EST up reply actions
Chandler is injury prone, and especially in a season where the schedule will be tight he’s guaranteed to miss around 10 games.
I don't think it's that big of a deal
He’s played at least 70 games in 7 of his 10 NBA seasons, that’s not really extremely crazy injury prone to me
No
Kyrie Irving
"This isn’t fantasy or rotisserie basketball. Why would Denver want Outlaw? Would you?" - Al Iannazzone
by strange-brew on Dec 1, 2011 12:23 AM EST up reply actions
Damn.
I was pulling for Hasheem Thabeet.
by vincecarter4pres on Dec 1, 2011 1:04 AM EST up reply actions
i need clarification
if Dwight trade doesnt go through and Portland didnt amnesty Roy yet, we would lost the rights to be in the silent bid
what is the deadline to amnesty your player?
A player can be amnestied at any time in the CBA. But they have to had signed their contract before the new CBA
really?
but i thought it had to be done before the season started and cant be used till offseason again. Am i mistaken?
any offseason between now and the next cba
so say, atl could amnesty joe johnson 2 years from now in the offseason if they don’t use the clause by the
by William_H_HOLLA on Dec 1, 2011 12:45 AM EST up reply actions
from the ESPN article
One source close to Williams, for example, says it’s unlikely that the New Jersey Nets’ point guard would consider signing with the Mavericks unless he was joining both Nowitzki and Chandler. The Mavs, though, privately worry that, with Nowitzki and Chandler on the books, they won’t have enough money to compete for Williams or Howard outright and would be forced to rely on acquiring one of those stars through a complicated sign-and-trade arrangement.
sounds like deron would definitely consider dallas next year if the nets dont make a huge statement this season
by William_H_HOLLA on Dec 1, 2011 12:40 AM EST reply actions
That's what I got from that too.
Why are sources saying anything about Deron and next offseason already?
Stay focused d00d.
by vincecarter4pres on Dec 1, 2011 12:50 AM EST up reply actions
I can't knock Williams doing what's best for him...
But am I the only one who thinks that if he would just commit to the Nets, the players will follow? He wants Billy to sell the Nets to other players, but won’t how does it look when he hasn’t been sold? Inking the deal says “hey guys this is the spot to be.” By now it should be clear that the Nets aren’t playing around and they are going to be aggressive as possible to build a real contender. That was the goal before Deron, that is our goal with him, and that will be the goal if he left.
by SovietBrooklyn on Dec 1, 2011 12:51 AM EST up reply actions
you're missing the point
Dallas is in a lose-lose situation, that’s what Stein is saying.
If they re-sign Chandler, say goodbye to 2012 cap space.
If they let him go, their core would look even worse come 2012.
They stand no chance.
so they might as well go for the back to back, right?
if their future is screwed either way, I just go for broke. you’re not gonna get this opportunity to defend a title again any time soon.
by sheepareevil on Dec 1, 2011 10:56 AM EST up reply actions
I might opt for Chandler rather than Nene, it's okay with me
He’ll have a bigger defensive impact and he knows how to play well next to elite pass point guards like Paul and Kidd.
http://www.cbssports.com/nba/story/16299009/postups-free-agency-signing-days-away-but-frenzy-exists
New Jersey also is said to have made preliminary inquiries about free agents Arron Afflalo and Luc Richard Mbah a Moute, who have the same agents as Williams.
"Success is peace of mind which is a direct result of self-satisfaction in knowing you did your best to become the best that you are capable of becoming." - John R. Wooden
by D Will to Succeed on Dec 1, 2011 12:42 AM EST reply actions
Mbah a Moute not Afflalo…cuz he’ll be pricey
@ HowardBeckNYT
Deal done, source says. NBA is back.
-November 26th, 3:17 am.
Anyone follow Afflalo on Twitter?
Weirdo.
by vincecarter4pres on Dec 1, 2011 12:52 AM EST up reply actions
lol wow i just looked
youve gotta be kidding me. that looks like stuff tim tebow would be drunk texting to a ex girlfriend.
by William_H_HOLLA on Dec 1, 2011 12:58 AM EST up reply actions
Awesome
Both great defenders, though Afflalo is likely to be matched by Denver. Mbah a Moute has a chance of not being matched though, since he’s got no offense
Same article
The Nets also clearly are trying to assemble the pieces necessary to make a push for Howard, but have to decide whether to put all their eggs in that basket at the risk of missing out on free agents who could help them now — and who could help entice Deron Williams to join the team in Brooklyn next season. New Jersey is one of six teams interested in Denver free agent Nene, and also inquired Wednesday about Dallas free agent Caron Butler. It has long been known that the Nets would be willing to trade Brook Lopez and picks to Orlando for Howard, but there’s little hope that will be enough. Nene at power forward alongside Lopez, with Williams running the point, would be the start of a potent group. If the Nets amnestied Travis Outlaw, they’d have enough room to sign Nene and Butler and still use the full mid-level to add depth. New Jersey also is said to have made preliminary inquiries about free agents Arron Afflalo and Luc Richard Mbah a Moute, who have the same agents as Williams.
"Success is peace of mind which is a direct result of self-satisfaction in knowing you did your best to become the best that you are capable of becoming." - John R. Wooden
by D Will to Succeed on Dec 1, 2011 12:45 AM EST up reply actions
Seems like Butler is our number 1 option at SF…not thrilled but whatever.
@ HowardBeckNYT
Deal done, source says. NBA is back.
-November 26th, 3:17 am.
wtf WHY CARON?
i dont get it, he is coming off a major knee injury and is 31, like hmmm DAVID WEST?!?!!?
What is up with the hype? I would rather get Shane Battier, great team guy, and defender.
you need some veteran presence for DJ
i feel battier and hill will go to instant contenders only. if they signed caron to a 2 year deal for 12 mil after they got their core together i wouldnt mind it
The realist keepin it real amongst the surrealists
I was in Baghdad before these little B.G.'s was in they daddy-bags.
by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Dec 1, 2011 12:50 AM EST up reply actions
Can't use full MLE if you started out under the cap...
God, why can’t I take these dudes damn jobs.
Not a single one of these clowns ever know what they’re talking about.
I was streaming Orlando sports radio today for like 2 hours, they talked about nothing but the NBA and the Magic. It was flat out embarrassing.
Dude talking about clear cap for 2012, then sign Deron Williams and Love and then you can go over the cap to sign Dwight to max…
Unreal.
by vincecarter4pres on Dec 1, 2011 12:54 AM EST up reply actions
sounds like our old offseason free agent fanpost threads
i know i have always been a huge Moute supporter. I know Karl wants AAA but you have to think if BK drives the price up just enough(via frontloading and signing bonus) will Kroenke and Uriji fold up and let him go
The realist keepin it real amongst the surrealists
I was in Baghdad before these little B.G.'s was in they daddy-bags.
by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Dec 1, 2011 12:52 AM EST up reply actions
you all crazy?
Do NOT go after Tyson! he is a Center! Brook is a CENTER. Why ruin Brook’s development on a center that has no offensive game. The situation has to be good for Chandler. Dont forget about the numbers he put up in CHA. I see comments like oh if we cant get dwight he is the next best thing. ARE you KIDDING me? The Nets already have Lopez. Lets go out and get Caron Butler. This FA class is WEAK and it is blinding some of you guys. GO big! Chandler aint big.
King just said they're willing to move Brook to Forward, and even if they're not, I don't think Chandler will have a ton of problems playing forward
How is Caron Butler better than Chandler? 31 year old guy coming off knee surgery and he’s a member of the very same WEAK FA class. He’s not “big”
Why even bother switching either of the players position?
I didnt mean that Caron was the BIG option. My grammar while typing probably made it seem like that my bad. IDK… I just get flashbacks of chandler being on the IR list for the Bobcats… This FA class is terrible… Howard better be traded.lol. Chandler will be overpaid if he comes here… book it
Well Chandler's played 70 games or more in 7 of his 10 seasons
So far his major injury years have been the exception, not the rule. I’m sure the Mavericks weren’t having flashbacks of him on the Bobcats while they were, oh I dunno, winning a championship with him
The IR list was for injuries as well as him being flat out, out of the rotation. I mean I see the Nets trying to fit him into what the team is doing… What if Williams leaves? We are left with an overpaid player. If he is successful it will be because of Williams and Williams only. the one year he didnt have a true PG(Paul, Kidd) he was terrible.
Would have been nice:
Deron, Farmar, Gaines
Affalo, Morrow, Brooks
Wallace, D.James, (whoever)
Nene, Humphries
Brook, Jordan Williams, Petro
(Unless we get Howard)
LETS GO NETS!
I'm back and forth, back and forth, but I'm going with Nene.
People are really underrating this guys defense.
Is Chandler even the better defender?
I like Chandler too though, wouldn’t be mad if we got him he’s really nice.
But for me, I go Nene, dude is just a bull.
by vincecarter4pres on Dec 1, 2011 12:57 AM EST reply actions
The big advantage of Chandler over Nene is help D
He’d give us a much more imposing shot blocking frontcourt when combined with Lopez’s almost two blocks a game. If our perimeter D continues to be bad, we’ll have two big 7 footers in the middle to be a safety net
Rather Nene
I dont see chandler and brook working well together.
I don't see why not
Brook is a post scorer/shooter, Tyson Chandler never touches the ball except on alleyoops or easy passes inside. Brook is a bad rebounder, Chander is a good rebounder. Brook isn’t the best all around defender, Chandler is a good defender
Heeees Baaack
DeronWilliams Deron Williams
Back in NYC!!! Good to know I can still get turkish food when I want
"Success is peace of mind which is a direct result of self-satisfaction in knowing you did your best to become the best that you are capable of becoming." - John R. Wooden
by D Will to Succeed on Dec 1, 2011 1:01 AM EST reply actions
D-Will just got here and hes munchin on Turskin food already
"Success is peace of mind which is a direct result of self-satisfaction in knowing you did your best to become the best that you are capable of becoming." - John R. Wooden
by D Will to Succeed on Dec 1, 2011 1:10 AM EST up reply actions
Billy king is blowing smoke
Has the fog machine in the hall of mirrors and threw said players in:
Chandler, Butler, Crawford, Thad Young, West
while he walks out the side door with:
Nene, Afflalo, Moute, Landry
The realist keepin it real amongst the surrealists
I was in Baghdad before these little B.G.'s was in they daddy-bags.
by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Dec 1, 2011 1:04 AM EST reply actions
If BK can add all four of those players, the Nets will be a much much better team
By adding PJ and Mario Elie, the clear focus is on team defense and discipline. Nene, Afflalo, Moute and Landry would make a huge difference on that front.
Let’s not forget when we talk about Nene and Afflalo how much better Denver was last season without Melo.
by ZR on Dec 1, 2011 9:50 AM EST up reply actions
Ric Bucher just said...
We’re throwing max at Nene.
LOL.
His opinion, not a report.
by vincecarter4pres on Dec 1, 2011 1:07 AM EST reply actions
him and berger have went way down the list when it comes to credibility
Woj. must have a super article coming out this weekend. same with DA, he’s been quiet post-lockout so far
The realist keepin it real amongst the surrealists
I was in Baghdad before these little B.G.'s was in they daddy-bags.
by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Dec 1, 2011 1:13 AM EST up reply actions
the good ones often stay quiet
because they usually use their own sources to give out information. ESPN just hears something from anyone and uses it to get people to log on and watch the channel.
NO WAY we give him the max
BK ain’t that stupid
by Anthony Perez on Dec 1, 2011 2:40 AM EST up reply actions
co-sign for the most part
perennial mediocre playoff team right there
2010-2011 = acquire an All-Star via cap space as Thorn himself said
2011-2012 = make the playoffs without hindering future flexibility
2012 off-season = sign the second All-Star
2012-2013 = make a run for the championship
Mission accomplished thus far.
Would definitely rather have chandler
Biggest reason d will dosnt want to play in his other number one destination with Chandler so who wants nene now??
by xxxnets5xxx on Dec 1, 2011 1:08 AM EST via mobile reply actions
because that worked with Lebron and cleveland right?
The realist keepin it real amongst the surrealists
I was in Baghdad before these little B.G.'s was in they daddy-bags.
by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Dec 1, 2011 1:11 AM EST up reply actions
Not saying he'd stay
But it eliminates one
by xxxnets5xxx on Dec 1, 2011 1:15 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
i imagine billy king sitting in a room somewhere wearing the same crusty suit for 4 days
sweating bullets and shooting off texts to every executive and agent in the league nonstop, surrounded by lil ceasers hot n ready boxes and cans of fanta
by William_H_HOLLA on Dec 1, 2011 1:08 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
Woj came out of his shell
"Success is peace of mind which is a direct result of self-satisfaction in knowing you did your best to become the best that you are capable of becoming." - John R. Wooden
by D Will to Succeed on Dec 1, 2011 1:15 AM EST reply actions
uhhh really? wasn't this bum a net once already?
Miami, Chicago and New Jersey are strongly considering offers for Knicks free-agent forward Shawne Williams
by William_H_HOLLA on Dec 1, 2011 1:18 AM EST up reply actions
except not
Shawne Williams has only played for Indiana, Dallas and NY
"Rooting for the Yankees is like rooting for Steve Jobs to win the lotto." - Chris Rock
The NBA - Where 2012 doesn't happen
Patrick Ewing - The NBA's all-time leader in rushing yards
He was traded to us last year
The lockout wasn’t that long :-)
Timeless - The 2001-2003 NJ Nets
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nima3dmLrcw
by GMJigga on Dec 1, 2011 11:31 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
I actually like him.
Nice sleeper signing, deadly from three and can D up some when his slow brain allows it.
Could be a problem though, he’s probably running pounds in the offseason.
by vincecarter4pres on Dec 1, 2011 1:22 AM EST up reply actions
Was traded to the Nets, then cut by the Nets…last year (I think; that or the year before)
Timeless - The 2001-2003 NJ Nets
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nima3dmLrcw
Yeah I remember.
He was traded here and then had to turn himself in on a warrant or something like that and we cut him.
by vincecarter4pres on Dec 1, 2011 1:23 AM EST up reply actions
yeah i think he lied and said he had to a funeral or wedding
when he was really going to court for hearing on his drug charges
The realist keepin it real amongst the surrealists
I was in Baghdad before these little B.G.'s was in they daddy-bags.
by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Dec 1, 2011 1:25 AM EST up reply actions
LOL
Probably got caught by the Twitpic police.
by vincecarter4pres on Dec 1, 2011 1:48 AM EST up reply actions
Agreed
having a point like Deron, it’s pretty important to surround him with shooters, and the Nets already have a terrific one in Ammo, and adding another would be great. Would also hurt the Knicks, which is always a bonus lol.
by JerseysFinest. on Dec 1, 2011 1:49 AM EST up reply actions
If Dwight dosnt work out get Chandler trade for Josh smith?
by xxxnets5xxx on Dec 1, 2011 1:18 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
What's wrong with his game good defense good foul shooter dunks shoots a little
I
by xxxnets5xxx on Dec 1, 2011 1:23 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
What are you going to trade for him?
by vincecarter4pres on Dec 1, 2011 1:24 AM EST up reply actions
Didn't think that far yet
Idk what sounds better
Smith pf Chandler c
Brook who’s not a pf Chandler c
Or if some how possible
Smith pf brook c doubt that’s possible
by xxxnets5xxx on Dec 1, 2011 1:26 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Defence of smith and Chandler would be amazing smith can cover the lebrons chandler the howards
by xxxnets5xxx on Dec 1, 2011 1:29 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Smith also the dirks kgs durants
by xxxnets5xxx on Dec 1, 2011 1:30 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Guys ain't thinking big enough.
We need a young top 15 player, preferably a big man and a good wing.
by vincecarter4pres on Dec 1, 2011 1:50 AM EST up reply actions
Kris Humphries:The Forgotten One
Notice how there’s no mention of him at all.Maybe he’s flying the radar and we resign him.
@ HowardBeckNYT
Deal done, source says. NBA is back.
-November 26th, 3:17 am.
I don’t understand why we can’t resign him…regardless
@ HowardBeckNYT
Deal done, source says. NBA is back.
-November 26th, 3:17 am.
may not need Hump
i cannot imagine Hump starting on a front line with Lopez and Chandler for example.
You’d want a stretch four, rather than a banger. He would be more valuable elsewhere under those circumstances.
"It's as sweet as it ever was, I'll tell you. Now, hopefully, we started something and we can win some more championships, but we're going to enjoy this one right now. Have a little champagne." --Julius Erving, May 12, 1976, ABA champion Nets locker room.
Hump would be great off the bench
Paying him to start,.. wouldn’t be prudent.
Understandably he’d go for the money. Still I’d rather overpay to have a deep frontcourt.
T.Chandler sounds good in theory I’d be excited to have him or Nene.
NI sounds like you know something….Stretch four……
"I define passion as extreme emotion."
When you have to shoot, shoot don't talk.
He's going threw alot right now law suits divorce got played
Don’t know how he would respond to all that and he only had one good year and probably wants a nice check
by xxxnets5xxx on Dec 1, 2011 1:33 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
It's because he's overrated and not that good.
No handles, no post game, no face-up game, no shot, bad shot selection, bad help defense, and bad foul shooter.
He gets boards and plays decent man to man defense but in terms of help D? Nope, he rotates SO slowly that he ends up fouling the guy every time.
Sounded a lot like Chandler there until the last few points , ha.
"This isn’t fantasy or rotisserie basketball. Why would Denver want Outlaw? Would you?" - Al Iannazzone
Tyson Chandler
is a good foul shooter, has good shot selection, plays great man to man and help D. Doesn’t sound like Hump to me.
It's easy to have good shot selection when you don't shoot.
:)
by vincecarter4pres on Dec 1, 2011 1:51 AM EST up reply actions
this
"Success is peace of mind which is a direct result of self-satisfaction in knowing you did your best to become the best that you are capable of becoming." - John R. Wooden
by D Will to Succeed on Dec 1, 2011 1:51 AM EST up reply actions
There's a reason
He doesn’t shoot much, because he has good shot selection. He chooses to shoot only high % shots so I don’t get what you’re trying to say.
Chandler's jumper is pretty awful.
You’re spinning this crazy right now.
I’m a big fan of Tyson, there’s no need to pump up parts of his game that don’t exist though.
by vincecarter4pres on Dec 1, 2011 1:55 AM EST up reply actions
What?
Where did you guys learn to read? When did I ever say Tyson has a good shot? Geez……..
Where in the world did I pump up his game? I said he’s a good foul shooter, efficient scorer, and a great defender and finisher. How in the WORLD is that “pumping” his game?
Dude you're saying he has good shot selection.
Of course he does, cause he doesn’t shoot.
That’s not exactly some amazing feat.
He’s an elite dirty work guy and he knows it and so he doesn’t jack up awful 15 footers, whoopty doo, should we give him a cookie?
It would be like saying a cashier is great cause they don’t steal…
by vincecarter4pres on Dec 1, 2011 2:08 AM EST up reply actions
Uhhh no
You have it the other way around.
He doesn’t take stupid shots because he knows he’s not a good offensive player. That’s good shot selection.
Hump not only gets tunnel vision and shoots a lot, he takes dumb shots, which is poor shot selection.
So if you don’t shoot a lot, that means you have good shot selection?
Do you know what good shot selection means? It means you take smart shots, not stupid ones. Tyson Chandler takes easy shots and nothing else because he knows he’s not good at it, that makes him a player with good shot selection.
You don’t need to shoot a lot to have good shot selection.
He doesn’t take stupid shots because he knows he’s not a good offensive player. That’s good shot selection.
He doesn’t take stupid shots cause he’s piss poor on offense and would get yanked out of the game like a stage hook.
Hump not only gets tunnel vision and shoots a lot, he takes dumb shots, which is poor shot selection
He really didn’t do this anymore last year.
I’m fearful he might revert right back to old habits, but he didn’t do that last season.
Do you know what good shot selection means? It means you take smart shots, not stupid ones. Tyson Chandler takes easy shots and nothing else because he knows he’s not good at it, that makes him a player with good shot selection.
Do you know what good shot selection is?
What you’re saying is…
A carpenter who knows how to install a ceiling fan is also a good electrician because he knows not to try and wire the whole house because he doesn’t know how and might mess everything up.
No!
He’s just a carpenter.
If Chandler took bad shots he would be a 10 minute per game 9th to 10th man and we wouldn’t even be talking about him.
That’s not good shot selection, that’s understanding of what your limitations, utilizing your skill set and survival.
Are you going to start calling Deron Williams a good shot blocker because he only tries blocking shots of other shorter guys?
by vincecarter4pres on Dec 1, 2011 2:24 AM EST up reply actions
Hump can walk
way too much nonsense surrounding him and we need to think about how we can become a contender within ONE WEEK.
by MrDollarBills on Dec 1, 2011 8:45 AM EST up reply actions
Tought Deron was suppose to come back on Friday instead of today.
Nobody knows anything lol. All I didn’t even know when he was on Daughtry earlier.
"Success is peace of mind which is a direct result of self-satisfaction in knowing you did your best to become the best that you are capable of becoming." - John R. Wooden
by D Will to Succeed on Dec 1, 2011 1:33 AM EST reply actions
*Thought
"Success is peace of mind which is a direct result of self-satisfaction in knowing you did your best to become the best that you are capable of becoming." - John R. Wooden
by D Will to Succeed on Dec 1, 2011 1:34 AM EST up reply actions
An afterthought:
David Locke: WATCHING FAVORS — His explosion and quick jump for a kid 250 pounds is Amare like – very few players that size that quick with power about 17 minutes ago
"Success is peace of mind which is a direct result of self-satisfaction in knowing you did your best to become the best that you are capable of becoming." - John R. Wooden
by D Will to Succeed on Dec 1, 2011 1:40 AM EST reply actions
He's always been crazy athletic
But the problem has been putting it all together on the court. I think he’ll be more like a Tyson Chandler/Emeka Okafor player than Amare
by muwu on Dec 1, 2011 1:42 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
a rich man's Dale Davis
which is not a knock on him. You need those guys to win championships. I’ll always like Derrick.
2010-2011 = acquire an All-Star via cap space as Thorn himself said
2011-2012 = make the playoffs without hindering future flexibility
2012 off-season = sign the second All-Star
2012-2013 = make a run for the championship
Mission accomplished thus far.
YEP
Favors is going to be a solid player.
by MrDollarBills on Dec 1, 2011 9:23 AM EST up reply actions
Without question
Favors is a special talent. I wish him all the best.
by ZR on Dec 1, 2011 9:52 AM EST up reply actions
too bad he has the mean streak of a kitten on ecstasy
I’m rooting for the kid, but from what he showed us I have no regrets trading him…even if he becomes the next KG
by SovietBrooklyn on Dec 1, 2011 8:01 AM EST up reply actions
So if both of these players sign elsewhere where do they go?
- Trading for Camby (don’t know if this is possible but got both fingers crossed)
- Trading for Antawn Jamison
- signing Carl Landry/David West/Kris Humphries? I believe someone brought up Mbah Amoute
Just don’t want a free agency like last year.
If options A (Dwight Howard), B (Nene, T. Chandler) don’t happen hopefully there’s a plan C, D and E..
"I define passion as extreme emotion."
When you have to shoot, shoot don't talk.
plan c d and are
c
d eron
e xit
by William_H_HOLLA on Dec 1, 2011 1:56 AM EST up reply actions 3 recs
nice
"Success is peace of mind which is a direct result of self-satisfaction in knowing you did your best to become the best that you are capable of becoming." - John R. Wooden
by D Will to Succeed on Dec 1, 2011 2:19 AM EST up reply actions
then I'm
for
getting
Howard
"I define passion as extreme emotion."
When you have to shoot, shoot don't talk.
I'm sorry,I don't care what you guys say about Billy, or what you say about me after this comment, but if he signs guys like Crawford, Butler, Young, etc.
He’s a straight fool and doesn’t understand what a good basketball player is and how to build a team and/or is Deron and Avery’s mouthpiece.
Deron will walk and we will have a barely 8th seed almost unwatchable, unenjoyable, never going to win anything squad.
by vincecarter4pres on Dec 1, 2011 2:30 AM EST up reply actions
A full-MLE might be insulting to him. Rut-Roh.
"This isn’t fantasy or rotisserie basketball. Why would Denver want Outlaw? Would you?" - Al Iannazzone
That means teams like Miami and Dallas are out , and New jersey is a go !
"This isn’t fantasy or rotisserie basketball. Why would Denver want Outlaw? Would you?" - Al Iannazzone
I'll become a Cavs fan if we sign Crawful.
NI has his fingers crossed.
by vincecarter4pres on Dec 1, 2011 3:41 AM EST up reply actions
somebody tweeted him a few days back
when ESPN gave their opinions on what is a good deal for Nene, Crawford, Chandler, etc.
most said 3yrs 22million for J-Craw and somebody asked what he thought and he said…and I quote…“-smh”
FRANKS AND BEANS FRANKS AND BEANS
by lemmetakeutodamovies on Dec 1, 2011 2:52 AM EST up reply actions
what does he think he is going to get?
4 years 50 milli?
FRANKS AND BEANS FRANKS AND BEANS
by lemmetakeutodamovies on Dec 1, 2011 2:55 AM EST up reply actions
I dunno
if we should spend a lot on this guy
by MrDollarBills on Dec 1, 2011 8:39 AM EST up reply actions
Anyone seeing this UFO looking thing over North NJ right now?
Freaky.
by vincecarter4pres on Dec 1, 2011 2:47 AM EST reply actions
noooo.....maybe you're just ahem* spaced out :)
Anyone seeing this UFO looking thing over North NJ right now?
Freaky.
by vincecarter4pres on Nov 30, 2011 11:47 PM PST
"I define passion as extreme emotion."
When you have to shoot, shoot don't talk.
Hi guys. I’m from Russia. I’m a fan Nets. I trust that Dwight will pass in Nets. The offer Billy very good. Otis should accept it as soon as possible. But it is important not to overpay. Not to touch the DWill, Brooks, Morrow.
My English weak)
Hello. Welcome to NetsDaily !
I could understand you enough. I think it’s a good deal for Orlando , but other teams could offer something similar or maybe even better.
"This isn’t fantasy or rotisserie basketball. Why would Denver want Outlaw? Would you?" - Al Iannazzone
Who? The LAL bad variant for Orlando. The LAC precisely isn’t better. All will depend on desires of Howard. I think to play side by side with D Will in arena on 1 billion is the privilege.
Are you Prokhorov?
Section 18, Row 7 at The Rock!
"Your 2010-2011 New Jersey Nets - It Is What It Is"
by eLonepb on Dec 1, 2011 5:20 AM EST up reply actions 8 recs
For the record, Im good with either
But if we get Chandler, this bit from the ESPN article excites me since it’s something we desperately need (looking at you Brook and Morrow).
he’s disappointed by the club’s decision not to offer him a contract extension after he was widely credited — most notably by Mavericks star Dirk Nowitzki — for changing the team’s defensive culture after three first-round exits in the previous four years.
Section 18, Row 7 at The Rock!
"Your 2010-2011 New Jersey Nets - It Is What It Is"
Chandler would be so perfect
But if theres a chance at Dwight, we have to pursue that with everything
Chandler and brook are not a great match
But I am okay with it. We would need another big that can score.
Landry?
i think most peaple dont get the main point about these two players.
This contracts that they going to sign will be the last one they may get max salary, those two definetly will go for max contract first no matter which team will offer it. Yes i know with nene he could take more money with denver BUT they got mozgov and birdman in there and looking to go young. All i’m trying to say we should not take ourself’s out of d12 run, even espn puts us as a front runer(and we all know we are loughing stock to them) but like b king said better work with makeing sure we got B LO’s new contract and Hump better get 4 year30 mill contract
by Aidar Berlinbayev on Dec 1, 2011 7:24 AM EST up reply actions
Nene has a chance at a max because he scores
But Chandler is the third or fourth best player on a championship team. He knows his role and im sure he understands it’s crazy for him to ask for max money. Even if he does, i highly doubt he gets it
here's an interesting datapoint
Chandler, DWill, Mbah a Moute and Aflallo are ALL cllents of one Jeff Schwartz.
"It's as sweet as it ever was, I'll tell you. Now, hopefully, we started something and we can win some more championships, but we're going to enjoy this one right now. Have a little champagne." --Julius Erving, May 12, 1976, ABA champion Nets locker room.
by Net Income on Dec 1, 2011 6:54 AM EST reply actions 2 recs
Would like them all
But Denver matches affalo.
Chandler
I like Chandler but my only concern is his durability remember this is the same guy who’s trade from New Orleans was rescinded due to problems with his toe.
by Blkswizz on Dec 1, 2011 7:29 AM EST via mobile reply actions
plus okc didnt want to take chance on him either, they even took hurt perkins over him.
by Aidar Berlinbayev on Dec 1, 2011 7:33 AM EST up reply actions
Perkins was NOT actually available
at the time of the whole Chandler trade/non-trade since the Celtics were defending champions at that point.
Fire Johnson and hire Van Gundy - I'm telling you Thorn was smoking something when he let Van Gundy slip away in the night.
by diehardNFFLbarnone on Dec 4, 2011 8:56 PM EST up reply actions
But only in 1 of his last 3 seasons, compared to 3 of 3 from Nene
plus he’s not getting any younger.
theyre 19 days apart in age
they both missed significant amount of time.
"It's as sweet as it ever was, I'll tell you. Now, hopefully, we started something and we can win some more championships, but we're going to enjoy this one right now. Have a little champagne." --Julius Erving, May 12, 1976, ABA champion Nets locker room.
But Chandler game directly out of high school
and that has proven to wear down players faster than those that come into the league at a later date.
by BrooklynNets on Dec 1, 2011 10:22 AM EST up reply actions
If I had to choose between Tyson Chandler and Nene, I would choose Chandler...
He is versatile enough to guard the PF position. And if you watched him play at all last year, you would have seen that Chandler defended the PF position pretty well. Also, with the length that the nets would have, it would be comparable to what L.A. did to win 2 championships. Except Chandler would be a much better defender at the PF spot that Gasol…
Offensively, Dwill would throw him alley oops all day. So If I had to choose, it would definitely be Chandler…
If the nets don't get chandler, I hope he goes to Houston...
We as nets fans have to remember to root for houston to make the playoffs. If they do, we get there pick in the 2012 “VERY DEEP” draft…
houston got cap space and you right they will go with big boys in free agency.
i heard that they will try to get D.Jordan he’s from houston or Nene but who knows what they going to do.
by Aidar Berlinbayev on Dec 1, 2011 7:38 AM EST up reply actions
woke up this morning with Dwight or bust as my mentality
none of this Aaron Afflol, none of this forsaken Shawne Williams!!?? stuff, none of this broken Butler..
even Lakers know what it is.
<blockIt’s no surprise to anyone that the Lakers will be one of the primary suitors in a possible trade for Howard, and a person with knowledge of the team’s strategy told CBSSports.com that executive Jim Buss finally has dropped his opposition to trading center Andrew Bynum “for the right deal.” That’s code for “a deal for Dwight Howard,” and it’s clear from those familiar with Howard’s thinking that he’d like to join the Lakers. CBSSports.comquote>
by Aidar Berlinbayev on Dec 1, 2011 7:52 AM EST up reply actions
Lakers cant offer them cap space by taking Turkoglu
"It's as sweet as it ever was, I'll tell you. Now, hopefully, we started something and we can win some more championships, but we're going to enjoy this one right now. Have a little champagne." --Julius Erving, May 12, 1976, ABA champion Nets locker room.
let us see
what Otis will do. I hope Dwight tells him straight out he has no chance of resigning with Orlando.
We have a great offer...
And could throw in additional assets.
Gasol is old and expensive and Bynum has serious injury concerns.
yes they cant take Turk
but as Otis said is going to be decided by him and D12, both Bynum and Odom have player options and i guess they will get some mid level draft pick from some other team. LA is still in hunt but i like our chances if B King wont bust it up with max contract to Nene or Chandler.
by Aidar Berlinbayev on Dec 1, 2011 9:21 AM EST up reply actions
why would you trade for a young center
wiht a player option?
"It's as sweet as it ever was, I'll tell you. Now, hopefully, we started something and we can win some more championships, but we're going to enjoy this one right now. Have a little champagne." --Julius Erving, May 12, 1976, ABA champion Nets locker room.
here's the team
pg- DWill/Farmar/Gaines
sg- Morrow/Brooks
sf-caron butler/Damion james
pf-Lopez/Humph
C-Chandler/Petro
caron butler stinks
i don’t understand the obsession we have with him on here, what has this dude done in the last couple of years that warrants a contract?
by MrDollarBills on Dec 1, 2011 8:38 AM EST up reply actions
Nothing.
This is when we find out how smart Billy is.
by vincecarter4pres on Dec 1, 2011 12:44 PM EST up reply actions
yep
he wants way too much money. we can’t play this game with these idiot players.
If Chandler wants to be paid his worth, fine. We should go for him.
I’d love to see a trade, but we can’t focus on that.
by MrDollarBills on Dec 1, 2011 8:43 AM EST up reply actions
Agree 100%
And I like the fact that Billy King used the word “promise” twice, in saying he would promise to not let the Melo drama situation happen again.
Ric Bucher reported that he's heard that Deron Williams and Dwight Howard have discussed playing together in the future. - Kevin Baumer
Its a sad reality for us
but our only hopes depend on a gift wrapped trade(a very fair trade imo for what its worth) with orlando for dwight. After a night to sleep on it, I don’t think its going down, if Howard wants to be here, the trade will be done.
If we don’t get dwight, we’re going to spend this money on guys, who are good but not great game changing superstars, and Deron will walk. Its pretty simple.
So lets enjoy our one year of being in the playoffs in Newark, because opening night in Barclays may be some sad, sad ish.
One week decides the fate of this franchise. You may think I’m crazy for saying that, but we have the best chance to become a legit contender and if Orlando chooses not to accept, well…that’s it. We’ll be the NY Clippers.
I say if we don’t get Dwight, we should make preparations to trade Deron in March.
by MrDollarBills on Dec 1, 2011 8:49 AM EST up reply actions
I said earlier
Getting Chandler or Nene and other pieces will be a playoff team, probably win a series even, but to win it all, to get past the Heat, the Nets will need DWill and Howard. Anything else will not produce a title. And I think Deron knows that.
Ric Bucher reported that he's heard that Deron Williams and Dwight Howard have discussed playing together in the future. - Kevin Baumer
Yep
which is why he hasn’t unpacked his bags since he got here.
by MrDollarBills on Dec 1, 2011 9:22 AM EST up reply actions
not the end of the world
if we dont get Dwight.
Do i want Dwight, of course, who wouldnt. But there is no reason to such a debbie downer. I was like you when Ratner owned the team. But like all good organizations it starts up top. I respect how you feel, but give it a chance. Nene will want anywhere from 13-MAX money, if it is 14-15 per, i would still give it to him.
Remember Nene has never played with an elite PG, and i think he would fit well with Lopez. I am just happy we arent going through the melo drama, either we get dwight or we dont, if we dont we go another route. Deron wants to see improvement, if we make the playoffs this year, i think that will suffice. And unless he has not internet access he must of heard about the package we are offering for Dwight.
We are proving to him right now, we arent playing, we are here and the old Nets are gone, this is Mikhail’s Nets and we will do what it takes. Even Bucher said he has Nene going to the Nets. When did a big FA ever get assumed to go to the Nets? Things are changing my friend, lets enjoy the ride.
The Nets
are doing everything that they can. I am not tossing the team under the bus. I know that Mikhail, King, and Marks will do whatever they can.
But the situation is not in our favor here. Yes, we are trying hard, but if the best we can do because of the circumstances is a 1st rd or 2nd rd playoff team at best, this guy Deron will walk on us. I have no doubts about that.
I’m not being a Bob Bummer I am being realistic here. This guy wants to be on a contending team and he hasn’t acted like he’s willing to give us more than one year to build one. I understand his position, he did not ask for us to trade for him, but he has a GUN to this organization’s head telling us to walk on water when we may not be able to do so.
One week. If we can’t get it done, we will be held hostage. Hell, we already are. At least I’d hope that we’d be proactive like the Jazz were.
And yes, its nice that we have guys wanting to come to the Nets. But we are not in the position to tank our cap by overpaying 3rd tier guys in a bad market. There is no way these guys would even fetch this kind of money if this were next year.
Well, lets see what happens, but lets be real: if we do not make this trade, it is over. We’ll have to cut bait, and continue to build with young guys.
by MrDollarBills on Dec 1, 2011 9:17 AM EST up reply actions
I think showing improvement
will be enough. And the new CBA and the potential lost of $40M in a max deals else where might also be enough to keep Deron.
If you are Deron, you see the franchise you play for, going out trying to get better with either a trade or a free agent. And he has an owner who is willing to spend anything, and i mean anything to be successful. Plus you get to open a BRAND new arena in Brooklyn, i think all those items will be taken accounted for.
As long as billy king tries to put players around him, he will stay. $40M is a lot to give up, so lets thank the new CBA. But yes, if Orlando were to accept it, it is pretty much guaranteed him and Dwight resign with us.
Nene isnt chop liver, he is solid, tough, and offensively polished. He would help, not hurt, and for 13-15 Mill per, i would do it. Boozer got 16M per.
i commend you
you have more faith in these sense of entitlement having superstar players than I do.
Everything that you said has merit(as per usual), I think that the 40 mil is our only trump card outside of a Dwight trade, but hmm…I don’t trust Williams, 40 million be damned. Not one bit. I don’t like the way he talks. That one foot in, one foot out garbage is counterproductive. You want to have a winner built around you? Fine. But it is a give and take situation, not just take take take. Take the initiative, sign the extension, and become a top level recruiter for YOUR team. If I’m a star player, and this guy calls me and says “run with me here in Jersey/BK”, I’m going to ask him if everything is kosher why won’t you commit? Guys like Chandler and Nene, they are good players but they are 3rd tier level dudes that want to make sure that they get their last payday, of course they want to play for us we are owned by a billionaire that is prepared to spend top dollar. They see what we gave OutLOL last year and they look at us as a money tree.
This wait and see nonsense….the Nets are not bull****ing and they haven’t since King took charge, they have been very proactive. Any idiot can see this. But this guy….i dunno. Not feeling the situation.
Honestly…if we fail to get Dwight, and the team looks like it will just be a 1st rd bust, I start taking offers for Deron. I see what Danny Ainge is willing to toss our way, he wants to get rid of Rondo. This isn’t what folks want to hear but we need to be prepared in case this dude tries to force his way out of here.
If he signs an extension and gives us more than one season to build a team with him as the leader, we can do it, but this pressed for time business is not helping the situation. God bless Billy King, I would not want to be in his shoes right now.
by MrDollarBills on Dec 1, 2011 9:35 AM EST up reply actions
What does showing improvement matter?
If that improvement results in a capped ceiling that’s obviously not a contender?
by vincecarter4pres on Dec 1, 2011 12:46 PM EST up reply actions
LOL...
I think Otis will trade Dwight and we have the best offer. Dwight will not refuse NJ and we will take him even if no committment (which is VERY dangerous).
Deron, Nene and Brook is a very good trio and I wouldn’t be so sure Deron will walk.
you pair him with Deron
thats a better chance he stays. Which team next season can pick up both? Plus Deron would lose $40M if he left.
they both can get near max money, bill
2010-2011 = acquire an All-Star via cap space as Thorn himself said
2011-2012 = make the playoffs without hindering future flexibility
2012 off-season = sign the second All-Star
2012-2013 = make a run for the championship
Mission accomplished thus far.
yep
and we shouldn’t pay them that kind of money
do you see now tom why I was in support of the season being cancelled?
we are screwed if we don’t make a trade with Orlando.
by MrDollarBills on Dec 1, 2011 9:10 AM EST up reply actions
Bottom line though
Who cares what each player wants? The GMs will decide what they are worth, and they will most likely be forced to take less than they think they are worth. I don’t understand the fascination with not going after a player because he wants more money. The market will usually even it out unless some idiot GM (see: Otis Smith) decides to screw things up.
by bronxbombers2 on Dec 1, 2011 11:25 AM EST up reply actions
Hate to sound negative
But I think this is clearly a negotiation tactic from Chandler. Think about it, after winning a title, most players would want to stay in tact. Owner’s and GM’s know this and can try to use that as leverage to give less money to FA’s on team (Chandler). If Chandler said I really hope to stay, then he has no leverage. But by saying, I am a little upset I didn’t get an offer before deadline, and I have interest in other teams (Nets), the Mavs will have to give more money to keep him. As a FA, you have to play this card to get more value. Smart. I’m hoping the Nets still land him somehow.
Ric Bucher reported that he's heard that Deron Williams and Dwight Howard have discussed playing together in the future. - Kevin Baumer
Why does Otis need Dwight's permission to trade him to the Nets
Can’t the Nets trade for Dwight regardless, like they did Deron? And convince them both to sign extensions later.
2010-2011 = acquire an All-Star via cap space as Thorn himself said
2011-2012 = make the playoffs without hindering future flexibility
2012 off-season = sign the second All-Star
2012-2013 = make a run for the championship
Mission accomplished thus far.
not permission
but more of clarification that he will not re-SIGN with the Magic. Like zero percent chance.
i think he wants to hear it from Dwight himself
and, assuming that Dwight doesn’t beat around the bush and what not, I’m strangely optimistic that this potential deal has legs. Best offer out there, unless Sterling makes a call to Orlando
by JerseysFinest. on Dec 1, 2011 10:24 AM EST up reply actions
Then offers free tickets to Dwight's charity for Black History Month
aaaaand we’re back to square one
by bronxbombers2 on Dec 1, 2011 11:27 AM EST up reply actions
Theres no point in taking that risk
if there’s any issue then , they could both walk, and where are we left? No way we trade for Dwight unless he guarantees that he will sign the extension.
I am exactly
excited I can’t wait.
Chandler seems more realistic and Nene for a max is horrible.
My lil man.....can't tell me god don't exist.
Hell no!!!! And nah to Chandler getting that amount as well!
by boogeewon on Dec 1, 2011 9:17 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Boozer received $16M from the bulls
we offer boozer 5 year 75M, that is 15 per.
what is 3-4 million extra, to prove to Deron hey this is your team, we are building around you. You are the face. If Otis turns the offer down, not Billy King’s fault, he tried, and that offer is legit.
Lets hope for the best!
well
3-4 extra could be another player on the roster, or money to go towards someone else’s deal.
I’m thinking about cap space
by MrDollarBills on Dec 1, 2011 9:39 AM EST up reply actions
I see him getting 12 million. Also…
would give him 3 yrs $33 million…starting at 12 and decreasing by a million per. Offer bonus if he stays healthy…
@ HowardBeckNYT
Deal done, source says. NBA is back.
-November 26th, 3:17 am.
The only team that can offer him 5 years are the Mavs.
Period.
End of story.
#newCBA
by vincecarter4pres on Dec 1, 2011 12:48 PM EST up reply actions
Indeed
But you know more than alot of people on here that in freeagency situations like this it’s the most desperate teams that win by overpaying and even though Tyson Chandler is my choice as well over Nene it’s hard to really fool myself into thinking he will come to the nets after winning a championship for less than what GS(who Mark Jackson wants defense to be first and foremost and will be players once they amnesty Biedrens) and Houston would offer… Yeah the ideal price would be 12mil and no more but he and nene are gonna get more just on the fact that they are the top available so that’s what has me like damn is that really worth it considering we can still do better through trade? Just my opinion….
by boogeewon on Dec 1, 2011 9:16 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
That's not new.
He named us as one of his preferred destinations in an interview before Deron was even traded here.
by vincecarter4pres on Dec 1, 2011 12:49 PM EST up reply actions
This is so stupid.
This takes them out of the Dwight Howard bidding
Chandler is one dimensional. And old.
Going after Mbah a Moute is the first intelligent thing I have heard about their free agent plans.
We can't force the Magic to trade a superstar to us
unlike Deron Williams, Billy King has to live in reality and the reality is he has to do whatever he can to make this team great. And for some of us, we realize that unless a miracle happens it takes more than a goddamn week to build a championship squad
oh, unless you get sweetheart deals like the Celtics and Lakers.
by MrDollarBills on Dec 1, 2011 9:20 AM EST up reply actions
Chandler is what we need defensively
We can move lopez over to PF and chandler can rebound and clean up the glass.
If Dwight is not coming.
I would love Chandler, KMart and Battier in a Nets Uniform at the right price.
Lets say we traded for DH12
Is it possible since Deron and Dwight isn’t signed to an extension, pull a similar situation like the Miami Heat ?
Deron + DH12 + Another Star ?
is that doable for us ?
maybe K Love shoot 3's at high rate and good on D
i just hope Otis will trade D12 over before season begins.
by Aidar Berlinbayev on Dec 1, 2011 9:30 AM EST up reply actions
Incredibly difficult and they'll have to compromise even more then the cHeat's Big 3 on salary.
Cause they can only get 5 years, not 6. And that’s only if we traded for an unextended Dwight this season.
by vincecarter4pres on Dec 1, 2011 12:51 PM EST up reply actions
Also if this deal with Orlando goes through
Orlando will have cap space THIS free agency, to get players. Maybe Otis was Thad Young or Nick Young, even a Marc Gasol :)
Yeah...
…if they amnesty Arenas and do the trade (depending on who else the Nets send them) they could be major players in FA due to their cap space… And still have a ton of flexibility too going into next season.
I don't think they would do that.
It brings them close to the salary floor, they would probably add an expiring and a 1st in an absorption deal through trade at a later date.
They’d be in a rebuild.
by vincecarter4pres on Dec 1, 2011 12:52 PM EST up reply actions
And i hope we get Nene
just to screw UJIRI! Guy killed our season last year with dragging Melo out. Yes yes i know he got the best deal blah blah, but still you know what i mean.
Stick it to him BK!
in that radio talk B KING said 2 main things that made me hope for better
1- he spoke with Kris’s agent first
2-makeing new contract for B LO is first thing on a list
nobady looks to give Kris a chance to resign over here, all he did is just became 4 best rebounder in the league and played best D on this team.
by Aidar Berlinbayev on Dec 1, 2011 9:38 AM EST up reply actions
can’t wait til we resign Lopez…just to end the dwight to Nets rumors.
@ HowardBeckNYT
Deal done, source says. NBA is back.
-November 26th, 3:17 am.
Nah we'll extend him
and then be able to give the Magic less for Dwight since Lopez is locked up for longer ;-)
by bronxbombers2 on Dec 1, 2011 11:30 AM EST up reply actions
He'll get his just deserts...
….A GM’s gotta establish good relationships with other GMs in this league in order to get good deals. With the bad rep he’s developed with the whole Melo-drama I doubt any GMs would want to work with him on anything.
Melo didn't want to play here though
so that may have had something to do with the pussyfooting
by MrDollarBills on Dec 1, 2011 9:41 AM EST up reply actions
Ujiri agreed to multiple offers from the Nets...
…only to pull away in the last minute – it seemed a lot more like dirty negotiation tactics than Melo not wanting to play. Otherwise they would have told the Nets upfront.
Dirty or just inexperianced and unprofessional?
I just think him and Josh Kornke had no idea what they were doing and suffered for it. At then end of the day they got Gallo instead of Favors, Harris, and the #3 pick.
In my book...
unprofessional = dirty
Yes, much of it can be attributed to inexperience. Nonetheless IMO it will affect the rep of the organization.
Melo was never coming here.
Give up the ghost everybody!
by vincecarter4pres on Dec 1, 2011 12:53 PM EST up reply actions
Brook = Power Forward? NOT!
I like Brook. I like THE HUMPH. We need a small forward who can score and defend.
Tyson Chandler is a center. I want DWight, and am willing to give up Brook. I don’t care for Nene’s game. I don’t like Caron Butler, too old and coming off a serious injury. I want to see MarShon get some playing time. I want my ex-wife to take me back. I want to lose 40 pounds and have a hair transplant. I want to start dating Michele Williams. Please G-d, make all these things true.
Paul from Sunny Delray Beach, Florida
Tayshaun Prince??
Niners,Nets,Reds & USC!!!
The Most Interesting Man In The World---->Mikhail Prokhorov!!!
by Kidd2Petrovic on Dec 1, 2011 9:41 AM EST up reply actions
i'd prefer Nene if the difference in $/year was less than 3 million
i just think he’s super efficient and a better all around player
if the howard deal falls apart, the Nets should see what it would take to get Josh Smith.
Everyone except for Deron and Brook should be on the table, plus one ofof the first rounders next year.
atl might even look for some salary cap relief so they can maybe make an offer to one of thhe free agent centers.
It might only take farmar morrow and the houston pick to get it done.
there's one more way nets may get J Smith
Sign Nene to 12 mills per year and tell him we trading you to ATL, but there’s one problem with that is the will be for sale and i’m not sure current owner may not do it.
by Aidar Berlinbayev on Dec 1, 2011 10:29 AM EST up reply actions
Is there enough cap room for Nets to go into FA and pick up
1. Chandler 2. Chuck Hayes 3. Prince
Would not mind a starting lineup of:
Chandler, Petro, Wright
Brook, Hayes, JWilliams
Prince, DJames
Morrow, Brooks
DWill, Farmar, Gaines
obviously No Grahamvp, cut no Hump can’t resign with $$ going to others & Outlol is amnesty
Niners,Nets,Reds & USC!!!
The Most Interesting Man In The World---->Mikhail Prokhorov!!!
Dwill will walk if we fall any where short of Dwight or a deep playoff run
by ItsAllNets on Dec 1, 2011 9:53 AM EST via mobile reply actions
The reason I likie chandler is more about changing the culture than his skill
Nene is a better player hands down. But I fell like Nene is kind of quiet and keeps to himself. Chandler will be a leader in the locker room and help Deron to change the culture and push Brook to be the player he can be. I was big on Nene 2 days ago but now I have changed my mind as I understand that this team needs vocal leadership (something sorely lacking since the Kidd days). Chandler brings this.
I know this sounds crazy, but I am not sure that having Brook, Chandler and the cap space to sign 1 or 2 more quality guys would be all that much worse than having Deron and D12 (I still say go all in for D12 just wondering out loud).
by tategeorge on Dec 1, 2011 9:56 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
Agreed...
But I think we can still get vocal leadership in a less expensive way… Chandler is paid a lot but his game isn’t really versatile enough to be the second highest paid player in the team.
He won't make more than Deron
Also, they can’t overpay Him or Nene because then they will have to over pay Lopez. This is a factor noone is discussing.
Define overpay...
…because IMO Chandler is already overpaid at $12 million+ and will be even more so due to the stigma of having won a championship.
You are right... Lopez, Chandler would not be worse than D12 and Dwill...
I know many people are so excited at the possibility of getting Howard. But what we have to realize is that having Howard and Dwill on the same team, we still would be lacking a closing scorer in the 4th quarter. That’s a lot of money to be paying out and you do not have a closing scorer…
Lopez lacks rebounding. Chandler would give the team that. They would be a great shot blocking duo as well.
At the very least, Nets should force Dallas or another team to overpay for Chandler.
Rumor is that Dallas only wants to sign Chandler for 1 year, to keep open the chance to get DWill.
Also Nets MUST force to Knicks to re-sign Shawne Williams to a multi-year contract, further eliminating their chances to sign a top FA in 2012.
Miami, Chicago and New Jersey are strongly considering offers for Knicks free-agent forward Shawne Williams(notes), who is coming off a strong season. The Knicks will make a strong bid to keep him, and he’s inclined to stay with them for a multiyear offer.
Shawnee Williams ?
Been there… done that…
I would rather bring Yi back then deal with that head case just waiting to happen…
I seriously doubt the Nets would touch him with a ten foot pole.
Read what Woj wrote: Nets one of 3 teams interested in SWill, besides Knicks.
Could be designed to get Knicks to sign him to a multi-year contract, which means even less cap space for Knicks in 2012!!!
Its a win-win strategy.
Besides, Shawnee never came to camp with Nets.
There was an inaccurate report about his transgression, and the Nets immediately waived him.
Since then he was about the best 3 pt. shooter in the NBA.
He would complement Howard well.
I see you are in regular season form, jerry
Section 18, Row 7 at The Rock!
"Your 2010-2011 New Jersey Nets - It Is What It Is"
Dude...
Shawne Williams is not some must sign for the Knix, they’ll call our bluff and laugh all the way to 2012.
by vincecarter4pres on Dec 1, 2011 12:55 PM EST up reply actions
chandler? meh.
the team would improve this year but it’s not a good long range signing. the guy has had lots of injury problems. it’s sad that we suffered through those horrible seasons to clear out cap room for older question marks like chandler and prince/kirilenko
kirilenko won't come too cheap
he’ll just stay in europe and make good coin rather than come here for a lowball offer
And I don't think his salary is that high for CSKA.
He sacrificed money to play for the Russian team of his choice (Proky’s old team).
He might make the same sacrifice for Russia, when he returns to the NBA and Utah is not willing to give him a contract.
Can't understand all the love for Chandler...
He’s played on three different teams the last 3 years…
Here’s his last 3 years games played:
45
51
74
Wait till he signs for big bucks…we probably will never see him on the court again…
We might be better off just resigning Hump...
I doubt Chandler is coming cheap….
That’s the problem with most free agents…You usually end up over paying and then crying the blues later on….
deandre jordan
if i’m going to take a risk, i’d like to do it with a young player. i’d give deandre jordan a big offer and make the clippers match it before i went after nene or chandler. but that’s just me, i realize most don’t agree
hear houston wants this guy bad
plus its his hometown I believe
Niners,Nets,Reds & USC!!!
The Most Interesting Man In The World---->Mikhail Prokhorov!!!
by Kidd2Petrovic on Dec 1, 2011 10:27 AM EST up reply actions
The Nets should make every team over pay for every player...
Just like in fantasy auction drafts you make teams over pay so they have less money to deal with down the road…Just like we made the Knicks overpay for Melo…
Wait so Chandler wasn't just the big difference in the Mavericks en route to a championship?
Say what you will about his games played, but the Mavs would not have won it all without him
you have to take that risk
he’s a phenomenal player that would help this team tremendously, and help create an identity that this team has lacked for God knows how long.
by JerseysFinest. on Dec 1, 2011 10:16 AM EST up reply actions
Phenomenal player ?
Phenomenal player’s usually don’t average 8.3 Pts and 8.9 rebounds in ten years in the NBA.
He would be nice to have but at what price ?
Hump had better #'s last year and he will take less with missing less game's as well
plus we already know he fits good next to b lo
by Aidar Berlinbayev on Dec 1, 2011 10:31 AM EST up reply actions
Sorry Hump isn't even close to the player Chandler is
Sure both hustle and bring help D but Chandler is a much better individual defender. Chandler is a great glue guy who brings intangibles. We haven’t had a vocal leader since the Kidd days. Dallas wouldn’t be getting their championship rings Dec. 25 if it weren’t for Chandler.
by djeterfan on Dec 1, 2011 11:04 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
he would do wonders on the defensive side
how much do you think he’s worth?
by JerseysFinest. on Dec 1, 2011 10:31 AM EST up reply actions
Hump will not get more than 8 mills and he know's it
Getting 8 mils per year with starting min i think he will take it in a heart beat but i’m going to say he may be included in D12 trade.
by Aidar Berlinbayev on Dec 1, 2011 10:36 AM EST up reply actions
Hump shouldn't receive more than the MLE
Especially since he comes with all this terrible press from the whole marriage debacle. Who wants a guy that’s publicly suing his ex wife of 72 days on their team? Forget the circus, let the Hump go to Indiana.
by BrooklynNets on Dec 1, 2011 10:38 AM EST up reply actions
PHENOMENAL!
lol…
"We're not talking about me and Darko in the same sentence." - Chris Webber vs KAHN!
by caseycheesecake on Dec 1, 2011 11:55 AM EST up reply actions
is there any sort of waiting period after signing a player before you can trade him
maybe Orlando would prefer Nene and picks vs. Lopez and picks for Dwight
If no dwight
Id rather sign Nene and Prince.
by 1stnamelastname on Dec 1, 2011 10:17 AM EST reply actions
Time for a new batch of news already
I am getting bored with the current thread.
by tategeorge on Dec 1, 2011 10:17 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
This sucks
Al Iannazzone says that Williams will not sign an extension until July. Can get two year extension for four years $70 million or wait until declaring free agency and receive $101 million over 5 years. Billy King acknowledges they expect Williams to declare free agency.
totally expected once the new CBA came out
Nets understood that.
"It's as sweet as it ever was, I'll tell you. Now, hopefully, we started something and we can win some more championships, but we're going to enjoy this one right now. Have a little champagne." --Julius Erving, May 12, 1976, ABA champion Nets locker room.
Oh, and I understand too
Just sucks because I will be thinking about it the whole year. And I’m getting married in July, so if Williams walks I am not going to be in a cheerful mood for the wedding.
by BrooklynNets on Dec 1, 2011 10:26 AM EST up reply actions
I would hide any sort of personal identifcation you have on the internet
because she might just hunt you down for suggesting that. Ha ha!
by BrooklynNets on Dec 1, 2011 10:46 AM EST up reply actions
i think d wade did the same thing
i would do the same thing, 5 years 100 mills
by Aidar Berlinbayev on Dec 1, 2011 10:25 AM EST up reply actions
Our only hope now is that the owners vote no on the new CBA...
Seems like the players continue to run the NBA and hold teams hostage to their demands…
Does seem crazy
that they would limit how much a team can extend their own player. Seems like it will only promote more player movement, which will favor the bigger market teams. So this year we have to establish ourselves as a big market team.
by BrooklynNets on Dec 1, 2011 10:34 AM EST up reply actions
that wont happen season will begin Dec25. i think we should pray for, we going to win D12 race.
by Aidar Berlinbayev on Dec 1, 2011 10:34 AM EST up reply actions
I think the league is announcing two more games for Christmas tomorrow
Maybe the Nets will be one of the teams added?
by BrooklynNets on Dec 1, 2011 10:36 AM EST up reply actions
Makes sense for him
But I can’t wait until the moronic writers to call it a sign he’s leaving.
FWIW, Dwight once said this exact logic. Why sign an extension when he can just sign a brand new contract.
Section 18, Row 7 at The Rock!
"Your 2010-2011 New Jersey Nets - It Is What It Is"
If he was a year or 2 younger
I could see him signing an extension & hitting fee agency at 28 or 29. He’d be 30 at the end of his extension, and that may scare off teams from signing him to a subsequent max contract.
Dwight and chandler are the only names that excite me. Not liking the possibility of T. Young, moute, Shawnee Williams. Or even the hump. These other signings will upgrade our squad compared to last year but nowhere near of keeping deron. Sickening.
by ItsAllNets on Dec 1, 2011 10:21 AM EST via iPhone app reply actions
Roof is really coming up quick along the southern part of the bowl
by BrooklynNets on Dec 1, 2011 10:28 AM EST reply actions 3 recs
First roof panels installed along the back as well.
by BrooklynNets on Dec 1, 2011 10:29 AM EST up reply actions
Maybe they should leave the roof off in case we trade for Howard...
We would only blow it off again if that ever happens…
I just drove past Atlantic Yards last night for the first time and got a chill looking at it
It is amazing. I am very excited to go to many games there in the future.
if the nets are added to the December 25th schedule, you can almost guarantee DH12 is a net before season starts.
by ItsAllNets on Dec 1, 2011 10:39 AM EST via iPhone app reply actions
I'd give that a 1% chance of actually happening
League isn’t gonna take that chance on the valuable Christmas day games
And screw their all star game?
In Orlando?
Section 18, Row 7 at The Rock!
"Your 2010-2011 New Jersey Nets - It Is What It Is"
almost a thousand comments
And half of them say the exact same thing.
Chandler has risks and potential to be overpaid.
Nene has risks an potential to be overpaid.
Humphries is well…. Ex Mr Kardashian…
Deron, Josh smith and Dwight Howard. We wouldn’t even need a sg or sf on the court
by Chakroot on Dec 1, 2011 10:44 AM EST via iPhone app reply actions
I'm going to say something different...
We better get the best player available in free agency even if it means over paying….
Building around Deron might not be the smartest thing to do seeing that the Nets might not be in his long range plans…Wasn’t it just a few months ago that King and AJ said they were confident they could sign Deron after the new CBA was ironed out.
I don’t trust King, Deron, the new CBA or anything that is not a proven done deal.
How come the Knicks and Miami don’t have these problems where players won’t commit ?
the nets, although a front runner in the daily rumor mill
Are COMPLETELY unproven. Your doubts and uncertainties are legitimate, as are those who look at the Newark nets, seeing headlines of lawsuits and political unrest revolving around our new arena and owner…
Anyone will play with lebron… Aparently everyone wants to play in duhz mekkahz… My theory: d’antoni’s a complete slouch of a head coach, certain players hate defense, and NYC is a gigantic playground for a wealthy pro athlete
by Chakroot on Dec 1, 2011 11:01 AM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
You might be right...
NBA players today look at the league different then fans do…
They see Lakers, Knicks, Miami, Dallas, Boston, Chicago as luxury resorts…
and the rest of the league as Holiday Inns…
yeah that's my thinking as well
I can’t wait for free agents to see a) a healthy, in-shape deron running the show, and b) a brand spanking new arena in Brooklyn.
Unfortunately we may have to wait til 2013 FA class to see any results as a franchise
by Chakroot on Dec 1, 2011 11:26 AM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
Players want the spotlight
until they move to brooklyn.. like physically not just wishfully.. its going to be tough to land free agents m i k e.
How you doing man ?
Thanks for getting my green comment deleted yesterday in response to your comment…(LOL)
You think the Knicks going to get anything done before X-mas ?
During the lockout
That was its own thread
Section 18, Row 7 at The Rock!
"Your 2010-2011 New Jersey Nets - It Is What It Is"
there will be
"It's as sweet as it ever was, I'll tell you. Now, hopefully, we started something and we can win some more championships, but we're going to enjoy this one right now. Have a little champagne." --Julius Erving, May 12, 1976, ABA champion Nets locker room.
http://sheridanhoops.com/2011/12/01/nba-free-agency-hidden-gems/
1. Luc Richard Mbah a Moute, Bucks (Restricted
@ HowardBeckNYT
Deal done, source says. NBA is back.
-November 26th, 3:17 am.
Is that one player or a whole team ?
PG Luc
SG Richard
SF Mbah
PF A
C Moute
by M I K E on Dec 1, 2011 10:58 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
and only one contract …that’s what I call a bargain.
@ HowardBeckNYT
Deal done, source says. NBA is back.
-November 26th, 3:17 am.
by Andy. on Dec 1, 2011 11:04 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Questionable Analysis by Sheridan regarding Reggie Evans...
He is a black Biedrins at the foul line
by SCALABRINGIT on Dec 1, 2011 11:02 AM EST up reply actions
At least he didn't call him a black Chris Dudley...
Now that would of been a major insult…
Chris Dudley in 886 regular season games had a .458 FT %…..
Biedrins is at .511
Although Dudley was an Ivy league OFF COURT, still insulting ON COURT comment..
Similar to saying that Larry Bird was one of the best White player in the NBA.
by SCALABRINGIT on Dec 1, 2011 11:43 AM EST up reply actions
None at all...nowadays...
basketball is actually GREEN in color…hence the lockout….but still a stupid comment by Sheridan.
Dwill walks if we sign these average players. moute will open up Brooklyn. nice.
by ItsAllNets on Dec 1, 2011 11:00 AM EST via iPhone app reply actions
Who is an average player?
Nene? Chandler? Not average players, they are quality players…
Look at the Bulls, they have one legitimate star (Derrick Rose) and excellent complimentary pieces around him. They also have an excellent coach that preaches defense and efficiency. If the Nets can find the RIGHT pieces, not just star power, they’ll be fine.
by ZR on Dec 1, 2011 11:36 AM EST up reply actions
Chandler is going to the Warriors book it!!!
Nene is going to Houston book it!!!!
The Nets are going to have to do what I’ve been saying from the time we got Deron and that’s go for Josh Smith! Atlanta has no room to do anything to improve that roster unless they amnesty Joe Johnson or do a salary dump with Josh Smith.
The numbers don’t lie and the Nets would be well served going for Smith( even after his trade kicker) then hoping Nene or Chandler take less to play here. Plus Smith is better for this team more than Nene or Chandler!
We can get battier to play SF and have a formidable team with or without Howard. Out of all the “attainable” wing players I have heard people mention on here from Granger to Gay its Smith that should be able to be had at a possible deal of Farmar and a first which would allow the Hawks to get big man so they can move horford to PF….
Disagree all you want it’s your viewpoint but this Chandler Nene nonsense is bogus!! Morey has been high on Nene enough to try to trade for him the past year and a half and Mark Jackson is looking to “change the culture” in GS to defense and Who better for them to do that with than Tyson Chandler? Nuff Said!!!!
by boogeewon on Dec 1, 2011 11:01 AM EST via mobile reply actions
If we don't get howard the trade market is still way better
Than signing Nene, Chandler or West!!!! Then we can talk about “role” players such as Chuck Hayes Luke Richard etc…. See ya’ll December 9th because the rumor mills along with message boards have been on crack laced with steroids since the lockout ended and haven’t come down from it yet….
by boogeewon on Dec 1, 2011 11:08 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
just tell me who we going to tarde for him? it's not going to be B LO i will bet on that anything.
i agree with you saying that those 2 wont end up over here simple fact there’s a chance both may end up in Orlando. Plus just like you said Indy, GS and Houston all got cap space and probably will give tham max contract if it’s need to be done.
by Aidar Berlinbayev on Dec 1, 2011 11:12 AM EST up reply actions
As far as I'm concerned if Howard doesnt do his part
And make it known to Orlando that he wants to come here then to hell with his “five” maybe I’m too old school for alot of folks on here but no I don’t agree with paying a player over 6-9 that doesn’t get close to 10 Rebs max money neither do I catch feelings over a player who only wants to play with his friends! Like I said before I had much respect for Jason Kidd because he made it known from day one that this is his team and made us respectable.
Deron Williams is all about business and clearly that “Redeem Team” came to the conclusion they wanna play against one another in mini clicks so this is what the nba is gonna be for the next 3 to 5 years. In saying that Deron has an asteric next to the Nets meaning I’ll stay depending on who we get to play and if we don’t get Howard I’ll be glad when we get rid of him too if our moves aren’t good enough!!! Jason Kidd with a chip on his shoulder coming to the nets back in the day is > than Deron Williams anyway and oh well one less number to retire! This is entertainment at the end of the day and reading some of these post isn’t…. Be back Dec 9th expecting a Dwight Howard trade or another trade before we do any signings…. Peace!!!!
by boogeewon on Dec 1, 2011 11:24 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Carte Blanche for DWill...
Al_Iannazzone Al Iannazzone
Though #Nets expect Deron to opt out, he could re-sign. They’re going to BKN, have $$$$$, and as source said “he can pick his teammates.”
12 minutes ago
PRO shows our commitment to build a championship team with a shared vision
CON: Cleveland did the same with LBJ and it backfired and left them with bloated contracts a la Jamison..
The moment we traded for Deron
we knew this was the situation. It was and is a huge gamble, which could pay off big-time, or leave us reeling as we head to BKN.
"It's not a lie, if you believe it" - George Costanza
"Silence is only golden when you can't think of a good answer" - Muhammad Ali
"Scared money don't make no money" a la Jeezy
Agreed. Best approach is to have rank his preferred teammates but not necessarily have final say. We take his list into consideration among many other factors that will allow us to execute a Plan B or Plan C in case Deron decides to take his talent to…..
by SCALABRINGIT on Dec 1, 2011 11:25 AM EST up reply actions
"Nets expect Deron to opt out"
When was this ever said?
by Anthony Perez on Dec 1, 2011 11:27 AM EST up reply actions
Deron Brook and Nene is fine with me...
As good a front line as any team in the league.
I am starting to warm up to the idea too...
Nene is an elite player that has played out of position (optimal position is PF with a Center-Lopez to take some of the load); he has never played with an elite point guard; alternatively, he has played with some of the most “selfish” shoot first player in the league (JR Smith, Melo) but yet has establish himself as one of the the most efficient shooter in the league; he is in his mid-prime of his career; and his defense is underrated for the most part. Overall, he has not tap his ceiling or come close to it, IMHO. My only concern is MAX money is too much (but may have to since other teams will offer same) and lack of rebounding if paired with Lopez long-term.
BONUS…just think of all the Brazilian eye candy that will flock to BKN….no sleep till Brooklyn!
by SCALABRINGIT on Dec 1, 2011 11:38 AM EST up reply actions
I've been saying this for months
Nene is a special talent, and like you said, the only concern is the $$ he’s looking for.
He would fit very well next to Lopez and his mean streak is exactly what the Nets need up front. Ever since Kenyon Martin left, the Nets have been soft up front. They need an edge and Nene can provide that.
by ZR on Dec 1, 2011 11:40 AM EST up reply actions
Saying things out loud don’t make them true.
"We're not talking about me and Darko in the same sentence." - Chris Webber vs KAHN!
by caseycheesecake on Dec 1, 2011 11:57 AM EST up reply actions
blocks =/= defense
blocks = tall
"We're not talking about me and Darko in the same sentence." - Chris Webber vs KAHN!
by caseycheesecake on Dec 1, 2011 11:59 AM EST up reply actions
i m not saying he is a great at defense but i m saying he is not awfull the way people make i have watched him for 3 years now
he is no as bad as people make if u watch carefull he does stop some shos from going in
Just not true
One of the best team defenders in the league and excellent on weak side help, something Brook needs alongside him.
He’s a much more complete player than Chandler as well.
by ZR on Dec 1, 2011 12:33 PM EST up reply actions
Trailblazers Beat writer on Twitter
I’m from Fresno like Brook Lopez & I’m told he has no issue whatsoever being dealt to Orlando. Orl is the twins primary vacation destination
I’m also told that Orlando GM Otis Smith is hesitant to pull trigger on deal. And yes, the Lopez twins are in love w/Walt Disney World.
Section 18, Row 7 at The Rock!
"Your 2010-2011 New Jersey Nets - It Is What It Is"
YES YES YES
THIS IS BIG TIME……..thanks dude i can relax now and stop looking at all news all over!!!!!
by Aidar Berlinbayev on Dec 1, 2011 11:33 AM EST up reply actions
LOLLLL
everyone knows Brook loves Disney
by bronxbombers2 on Dec 1, 2011 11:39 AM EST up reply actions
He should step his game up
It’s all about Pixar these days…
by Anthony Perez on Dec 1, 2011 11:43 AM EST up reply actions
So he wants to play near Emeryville, California?
then it’s Brook to Golden State!
not "that" Jersey Shore...Point Pleasant, 10 refreshing miles north of Seaside.
by John at the Jersey Shore on Dec 1, 2011 12:02 PM EST up reply actions
He took rebounding lessons from Bambi.
"We're not talking about me and Darko in the same sentence." - Chris Webber vs KAHN!
by caseycheesecake on Dec 1, 2011 11:58 AM EST up reply actions
Brook has lifetime pass to both Disney parks
so does Robin
"It's as sweet as it ever was, I'll tell you. Now, hopefully, we started something and we can win some more championships, but we're going to enjoy this one right now. Have a little champagne." --Julius Erving, May 12, 1976, ABA champion Nets locker room.
this might sound crazy, and risk is high too
If Dwight doesn’t get traded this year, and D will doesn’t sign the extension now but will also opt for FA, do you think we can convince him to take less money like the “Stupid Trios” so we can sign star players without trading our picks or assets?
JKidd Era 2! Starring D.Williams as the lead actor, Avery Johnson as Byron Scott, and Player X as Player Y.
Let the show begin!
Billy King is the Man
Is BKing better then Thorn? That is the question.
First it is leaked out that Nets want DHow for Lopez, picks and cap space.
NOW another Leak about Nets interested in Chandler and Nene IF DHow doesnt work out.
BK you are the man LEAK these stories and Play a Little POKER with OTIS. Clearly OTIS doesnt have a POKER face. VC is Fouls GOLD. LOL!!!!!!!!!!!
Official Member of the "DIDN'T WANT TO TRADE DERRICK FAVORS, BUT HAPPY WE GOT D. WILLIAMS" Movement
by SIC One on Dec 1, 2011 11:51 AM EST reply actions 3 recs
better drafter then thorn but i m not sure a better trader or better better at gving player contract
Thorn gave Petro and Outlaw huge deals
And Thorn for the last 3 seasons he was here made some terrible trades
Thorn was a lame duck for about a year
And didn’t care anymore.
by ZR on Dec 1, 2011 12:59 PM EST up reply actions
From what ive seen in his stint
He is better. I never liked Thorn. He got us stuck with Petro and Outlaw right before leaving
yes no butler!
@ HowardBeckNYT
Deal done, source says. NBA is back.
-November 26th, 3:17 am.
by Andy. on Dec 1, 2011 11:54 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Bad knee and over 30...
I could care less if he doesn’t want to come here…
sign Tayshaun Prince!
Brooklyn we go hard...
by Fabio Villani on Dec 1, 2011 11:56 AM EST up reply actions
However...
What the more importsnt issue is: how many other free agents are going to be hesitant in coming here because of Dwill’s lack of commitment…
by aug93 on Dec 1, 2011 11:55 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Dwill needs to understand that his lack of committment is only hurting the nets...
So if we do not land anyone, he has to shoulder a lot of the blame…
NOBODY ELSE WILL SUFFICE
Howard is available and we have to move heaven and earth to get him.
Forget about anyone else and go ALL IN on Dwight Howard.
For all those in Favor of getting an "Elite" talent like Nene just keep this in mind....
So “efficient” and does away with the scraps but would you pay top dollar for one of these when you still need more fish to produce and draw attention to your new tank?
Butler and Nets
"He sees the Clippers with a more stable foundation of players," one source familiar with Butler’s thinking said. "He isn’t sure about Deron Williams’ future in New Jersey, and having a chance to win will be a big part of this."
I can see this becoming a problem with signing players without a commitment from Williams
by Rodney Buford on Dec 1, 2011 12:01 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
the lebron effect
My lil man.....can't tell me god don't exist.
by killa kadafi191 on Dec 1, 2011 12:03 PM EST up reply actions
luckily its just Caron Butler
FRANKS AND BEANS FRANKS AND BEANS
by lemmetakeutodamovies on Dec 1, 2011 12:28 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
thing is BK doesn't mean nothing if Deron isn't
committed to the Nets.
No one wants sign long term to a team that could have no identity
My lil man.....can't tell me god don't exist.
by killa kadafi191 on Dec 1, 2011 12:05 PM EST up reply actions
I have to totally disgree with that...
Moving to BK means a lot. Having a young good center helps. A very rich owner with lots of cap space is an even bigger help…
all that means nothing without Deron
My lil man.....can't tell me god don't exist.
by killa kadafi191 on Dec 1, 2011 12:06 PM EST up reply actions
You give him waaaaaaayyyyyyy too much credit...
Dwill left Utah. Do you see their franchise crumbling? He is not lebron, wade, durant or kobe. He is a very good player. He will not go down as one of the all time greats…
I will love the nets no matter what
but as NI and others said this team can’t go into BK with no identity at worst the Knicks could have CP3 along with their other stars.
You think the Nets were second class citizens
before imagine what will happen then??
think clippers and Lakers
My lil man.....can't tell me god don't exist.
by killa kadafi191 on Dec 1, 2011 12:10 PM EST up reply actions
The clippers are second class citizens because of an idiot owner...
The Giants are the most liked team in NY. Yet, the Jets have been stealing the back page headlines for the last couple of years.
The Yankees are the class of NY. However, whenever the Mets are doing well, they get their headline too. As a matter of fact, the mets suck right now, and they are still not treated in NY like the clippers are treated in L.A.
NY sports history shows that new yorkers can and will support 2 teams. Not everyone in NY likes the Knicks. I hate the knicks. And I have plenty of friends who do also…
Brooklyn will represent Brooklyn. The Nets have over 2 million Brooklyn residents alone to draw from. And like i said earlier, there are plenty of basketball fans in the 5 boroughs of NYC that hate the knicks. They would love a NY team to root for. The Nets are not going to be the clippers in Brooklyn. Especially if they make the right moves to be competitive…
not clippers
But there is a losing culture surrounding the nets. We HAVE to put a winning product on the floor.
by 1stnamelastname on Dec 1, 2011 12:21 PM EST up reply actions
Butler knows
Blake is the future and won’t be going no where for a while. which is why some players (cp3) are interested in Clippers
My lil man.....can't tell me god don't exist.
by killa kadafi191 on Dec 1, 2011 12:07 PM EST up reply actions
Then they'll join and have Sterling bring in people and tell them
“Look at their beautiful black bodies”
Racist wacko…
by Anthony Perez on Dec 1, 2011 1:03 PM EST up reply actions
that was how long ago
as NI said they are expecting Deron to opt out
My lil man.....can't tell me god don't exist.
by killa kadafi191 on Dec 1, 2011 12:08 PM EST up reply actions
this ultimatley means D-Will doesn't have Butler on his wish list!!!!
I bet all the other players who are on that list know what his plans are! haha
honestly never wanted a player coming off an injury
My lil man.....can't tell me god don't exist.
by killa kadafi191 on Dec 1, 2011 12:10 PM EST up reply actions
petro is the first and only player in facility.
by ItsAllNets on Dec 1, 2011 12:02 PM EST via iPhone app reply actions
There is one player that can help the Nets say: the hell with D12 and Dwill...
And that player is Marshon Brooks. If this kid turns out to be a 20+ scorer in the league to go alongside brook lopez, then the nets do not have to kiss anyone’s a$$ to come here or stay here….
I hope this kid is the surprise player of the draft…
yep
Hes my x factor also. Hope he is the scorer which i think he will develop into
by 1stnamelastname on Dec 1, 2011 12:12 PM EST reply actions
If King was smart, he would force avery to start Brooks...
it is imperative for the nets to see if they have a potential star on their hands… Because if Marshon turns out to be a good scorer, this changes EVERYTHING!!!
Brooks has to deserve it and prove it in practice. Kings cant force it…that’s the coaches job.
@ HowardBeckNYT
Deal done, source says. NBA is back.
-November 26th, 3:17 am.
and ruin his relationship
"It's as sweet as it ever was, I'll tell you. Now, hopefully, we started something and we can win some more championships, but we're going to enjoy this one right now. Have a little champagne." --Julius Erving, May 12, 1976, ABA champion Nets locker room.
Comments For This Post Are Closed
Secondary Sidebar
User Tools
Related FanPosts on NetsDaily
FanPosts
Community blog posts and discussion.
