The Latest: Besiktas Goes With Odom After Brook Lopez Talks Fail
by NetsDaily on Nov 24, 2011 9:27 AM EST
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The latest reports from Turkish hoops sites say that Besiktas has finally found a big man to join Deron Williams It's NOT Brook Lopez.
Instead say the reports, Besiktas has turned to Lamar Odom, Kris Humphries' brother-in-law. Reports differ on whether Lopez turned down an offer from the Black Eagles.
Adrian Wojnarowski tweeted that while Besiktas offered Lopez a contract, they were prepared to go with Odom if Lopez turned them down. Marc Stein, on the other hand, says Besiktas always preferred Odom, but negotiated with Lopez as well. The Turkish League team could only sign one more American player.
Lopez would have brought to nine the number of Nets players and draft picks who've found refuge overseas since June, joining Deron Williams, Jordan Williams, Jordan Farmar, Sasha Vujacic, Sundiata Gaines, Mario West, Dan Gadzuric and Bojan Bogdanovic. As Al Iannazzone writes, no team is more ready.
- Lamar Odom, Besiktas reach agreement, sources say - Marc Stein - ESPN LA
- Brook Lopez, Besiktas! - Kartal Basket
- Report: Brook Lopez to join Deron Williams in Turkey - Kurt Helin - NBC Sports
- Report: For Besiktas, it’s Brook Lopez (and not K. Love, Deng, Odom, Nene, Gortat…) - Ball in Europe
- Report: Brook Lopez to join Williams in Turkey - Matt Moore - CBS Sports
- Locked-Out N.B.A. Players Find a Home Overseas - Jake Appleman - New York Times
- No NBA, but still reasons to be thankful - Al Iannazzone - The Nets Insider
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Don't know if Brook shoudl overexert himself ... he's still recovering from mono
Avery Johnson can go Outlaw himself.
Hey Avery: 我觉得你做得不是很好
NETS BASKETBALL…. JUST DEAL WITH IT!
WOOOOO
Did DWill make the call?
This could be a good sign: the season wil start on Christmas, DWill wants to win with the Nets and maybe stay.
HMM
DWill Farmar
JCrawford Brooks
Deng James
Nene Jwill
Lopez Petro
Chi gets Ammo and a 2012 pick
Nah Chicago can keep Deng
the draft is too deep and Deng is paid too much for what he actually does. Our next 3 needs to be able to create a shot by himself, shoot, and defend. Deng is a system player who relies on others. This means that a team stopping Williams would also bog down Deng.
Happy to see Billy King graduated in an accelerated "how to make a trade" class in just one night :)
I think he'll be flying back to get ready for the NBA season before he even gets started, but if not...
It could be good news if Brook plays well, but bad news if he doesn’t. (In terms of Williams’ perception of the team going forward.)
I am suddenly optimistic about the season starting
by DJ HeavyDuty on Nov 24, 2011 9:54 AM EST up reply actions
Yep, he's about 4-5 months to late to go oversea's
NBA gets deal done before Monday in my opinion
"Most people on this board are like a broken clock, Only right two times a day"
https://twitter.com/#!/Meer2Fly16
by Shameer1016 on Nov 24, 2011 10:43 AM EST up reply actions
Brook would dominate out there
To talented
"We're not there yet, but we're going somewhere," Johnson said. "And we're going to Brooklyn. We're not going to contract. We're going to Brooklyn."
He seems setup well to play at a high level in the European game.
Still needs to drastically improve his passing but he looked better at that at the end of the season especially with Deron, albeit in a very small sample size.
by vincecarter4pres on Nov 24, 2011 4:03 PM EST up reply actions
Nice
this was probably orchestrated by D-Will. Good to see that they’ll be playing together and working on chemistry
Definitely a good development. Surprised Morrow hasn’t jumped on board yet.
by nynjlawyer on Nov 24, 2011 9:56 AM EST via mobile reply actions
Best news of the week.
When can i get my Dwight Howard Brooklyn Nets Jersey?
by AmbassadorAmeer on Nov 24, 2011 9:59 AM EST via mobile reply actions
Finally some news about brook lopez !!
The Nets Broke My Heart..
by Mikee21 on Nov 24, 2011 10:07 AM EST via mobile reply actions
This is very significant news, because even if the NBA lockout ends in the next few days, it would still be beneficial for Brook to be playing with DWill until close to the 1st preseason game with the Nets.
There is no better way for BLo to get into regular season shape.
And Besiktas would benefit by winning as many games as possible to get into the EuroLeague next year.
HELL Yes!
if the season doesn’t start next month…then we’ll still have something to watch. Our two best players on the same team…awesome.
@Al_Iannazzone: BREAKING NEWS: Nets are close to acquiring Deron WIlliams from Utah, sources told The Record.
-Feburary 23, 10:54 am.
This wouldn't be happening without DWill's request to team with his fellow Nets player.
A sign that DWill can kill 2 birds with one stone, by helping Besitkas and The Nets at the same time.
This is awesome news
I just wish this had been the case a few weeks ago, the more time these guys work together the better.
Does anyone think Euro basketball will toughen B-Lo up?
by Barclays Center 2012 on Nov 24, 2011 10:47 AM EST reply actions
At the very least it will improve his conditioning
D-Will > Carmela
by Gdepp94 on Nov 24, 2011 10:54 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Brook better have been hitting the weights this entire time.
that mono excuse is no longer viable
"Some things you just can't question. Like you can't question why two plus two is four. So don't question it, don't try to look it up. I don't know who made it, all I know is it was put in my head that two plus two is four. So certain things happen. Why does it rain? Why am I so sexy? I don't know." - Shaquille O'Neal
by CinnamonToastCrunch on Nov 24, 2011 11:01 AM EST reply actions
He has been recovering from minor surgury (lol) but he did play with the USO in Hawaii last month ...
and looked like toilet paper, as far as the eye could see.
no1 was playing aggressive....
it was just for fun
Nets Mets Giants ALL DAY
by netsareboss on Nov 24, 2011 11:44 AM EST up reply actions
It is the top story on ESPN Insider. Looks pretty definite and they managed to keep it a secret until now.
Sportando Basket
According to Kartal Basket, Besiktas found his new NBA guy: Brook Lopez. The two parts reached an agreement, deal to be official soon
2 hours ago via web
All that's missing is for Outlaw to join
and then I will be thankful……if he never comes back lol
"Most people on this board are like a broken clock, Only right two times a day"
https://twitter.com/#!/Meer2Fly16
at least one other Net is looking
"It's as sweet as it ever was, I'll tell you. Now, hopefully, we started something and we can win some more championships, but we're going to enjoy this one right now. Have a little champagne." --Julius Erving, May 12, 1976, ABA champion Nets locker room.
Must be Morrow is previously indicated he liked the idea.
Not sure how many minutes Morrow would get, with DWill already playing SG.
morrow is one of the best shooters in the world he would love the euro game
deron williams is better than kyrie irving
by William_H_HOLLA on Nov 24, 2011 11:34 AM EST up reply actions
If our 3 best players play on the same team oversea's
just give them every Championship and award there is.
"Most people on this board are like a broken clock, Only right two times a day"
https://twitter.com/#!/Meer2Fly16
if nothing else
this shows the Nets organization’s commitment to targeting and growing their international audience. is there another team in the NBA with close to as many players actively staying in shape overseas during the labor debacle?
i wonder who instigated this move from brook though. was Deron saying, “hey, come play in turkey with me… you’ll love it and it will only help us once we’re back state-side” or… brook lopez saying, “hey, maybe if i go play with deron in turkey, he’ll be more likely to stay alongside myself and other Nets into the future.”
Future Headline:
New Jersey Nets best team in Europe.
followed up by:
Brooklyn Nets best team in NYC…
followed shortly by:
Brooklyn Nets best Miami Heat to return to the finals!
by Chakroot on Nov 24, 2011 11:31 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
followed by:
Brooklyn Nets have won back-back-back championships!
Nets Mets Giants ALL DAY
by netsareboss on Nov 24, 2011 11:45 AM EST up reply actions
followed by
Threepeat!
In Prokhorov & Billy King WE TRUST.
8 > 3
DH12 OR BUST!
Official Member of the "Travis OutLOL Society". 5 years, 35 Million Dollars worth of lulz.
tht is a 3-peat...
Nets Mets Giants ALL DAY
by netsareboss on Nov 24, 2011 12:21 PM EST up reply actions
meant to say a double 3-peat I am sure
Happy to see Billy King graduated in an accelerated "how to make a trade" class in just one night :)
Followed by waking up
"Most people on this board are like a broken clock, Only right two times a day"
https://twitter.com/#!/Meer2Fly16
While playing 2K
"Most people on this board are like a broken clock, Only right two times a day"
https://twitter.com/#!/Meer2Fly16
Global plan working at its finest.
"Success is peace of mind which is a direct result of self-satisfaction in knowing you did your best to become the best that you are capable of becoming." - John R. Wooden
by D Will to Succeed on Nov 24, 2011 11:29 AM EST reply actions
jerry, please read our item
every thing you have posted here was in the original item.
"It's as sweet as it ever was, I'll tell you. Now, hopefully, we started something and we can win some more championships, but we're going to enjoy this one right now. Have a little champagne." --Julius Erving, May 12, 1976, ABA champion Nets locker room.
by Net Income on Nov 24, 2011 11:44 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Did you report that Brook came cheaper than the alternatives (from SLAM article)?
A number of reports in recent days had the Beşiktaş search linked with names like Kevin Love, Luol Deng, Lamar Odom, Nene and Marcin Gortat, but Lopez made for reportedly a somewhat less expensive option than Odom or Gortat, for example."
Good old Brook isn’t motivated by money.
He's less expensive because of insurance.
"It's as sweet as it ever was, I'll tell you. Now, hopefully, we started something and we can win some more championships, but we're going to enjoy this one right now. Have a little champagne." --Julius Erving, May 12, 1976, ABA champion Nets locker room.
aw cmon NI
why’d u have to say that?
Nets Mets Giants ALL DAY
by netsareboss on Nov 24, 2011 12:22 PM EST up reply actions
because it's true
"It's as sweet as it ever was, I'll tell you. Now, hopefully, we started something and we can win some more championships, but we're going to enjoy this one right now. Have a little champagne." --Julius Erving, May 12, 1976, ABA champion Nets locker room.
Brook didn't have to agree to offer.
Some of the others mentioned turned down Turkey, such as Kevin Love.
Nine players either overseas or on their way...
Deron Williams, Brook Lopez, Sasha Vujacic and Bojan Bogdanovic in Turkey; Jordan Farmar in Israel; Dan Gadzuric in China; Sundiata Gaines in Georgia; Jordan Williams in Poland and Mario West in Italy.
"It's as sweet as it ever was, I'll tell you. Now, hopefully, we started something and we can win some more championships, but we're going to enjoy this one right now. Have a little champagne." --Julius Erving, May 12, 1976, ABA champion Nets locker room.
Now we just need Morrow and Travis Outlaw without an NBA "out" clause
by dwill8brooklynbound on Nov 24, 2011 11:53 AM EST up reply actions
Why Morrow?
"Success is peace of mind which is a direct result of self-satisfaction in knowing you did your best to become the best that you are capable of becoming." - John R. Wooden
by D Will to Succeed on Nov 24, 2011 11:58 AM EST up reply actions
No, I meant Morrow should sign overseas with an NBA "out"
And Travis should sign overseas without one. LOL I wasn’t saying I want Morrow gone, I love the guy. One of my favorite players on the Nets.
by dwill8brooklynbound on Nov 24, 2011 12:06 PM EST up reply actions
in addition, Kris Humphries has been to Hell and back
"It's as sweet as it ever was, I'll tell you. Now, hopefully, we started something and we can win some more championships, but we're going to enjoy this one right now. Have a little champagne." --Julius Erving, May 12, 1976, ABA champion Nets locker room.
hell cmon?
he got to live a lavish life of celebrity, got paid to get married, has endorsement deals, club appearances and he got to smash a very hot woman in the process
sign me up for this hell you speak of!
by DJ HeavyDuty on Nov 24, 2011 1:11 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
sounds like an AWESOME 72 DAYS
In Prokhorov & Billy King WE TRUST.
8 > 3
DH12 OR BUST!
Official Member of the "Travis OutLOL Society". 5 years, 35 Million Dollars worth of lulz.
You guys can talk bad about him if you want
but he’s in a better position now, when compared to the pre-marriage.
"Most people on this board are like a broken clock, Only right two times a day"
https://twitter.com/#!/Meer2Fly16
His heart was broken, man!
"It's as sweet as it ever was, I'll tell you. Now, hopefully, we started something and we can win some more championships, but we're going to enjoy this one right now. Have a little champagne." --Julius Erving, May 12, 1976, ABA champion Nets locker room.
Deron, Dwight and Brook?
As everyone has said, this is great news. It’ll be great for Lopez’s development.
I love the NBA as much as the next person, but given a choice (and the agony of watching hockey all season), I’d gamble on a lost 2011 that leads to a free-for-all in 2012.
Deron, Dwight and Brook on the same team? Worth the risk.
great
they can become friends and develop chemistry, and d will has a better chance of stain. so cheered up now
"Dear Mark - You showed the world not only what a great team you have, but also, that you can remain silent for a period of weeks--I don't know which is more shocking!"
DWill Era- 7-18
Happy Thanksgiving everybody!
And now a moment of silence for all those brave souls that gave their lives so we can celebrate this amazing day.
America, &%@# yeah!
by vincecarter4pres on Nov 24, 2011 12:43 PM EST reply actions 3 recs
go to Deron Williams Facebook page
and look at the names of people posting. Ironically, Mikhail Prokhorov’s plan to make D-Will a “global superstar” has a head start.
http://www.facebook.com/DeronWilliams
"It's as sweet as it ever was, I'll tell you. Now, hopefully, we started something and we can win some more championships, but we're going to enjoy this one right now. Have a little champagne." --Julius Erving, May 12, 1976, ABA champion Nets locker room.
I told him Brook will bring him leftovers.
"Success is peace of mind which is a direct result of self-satisfaction in knowing you did your best to become the best that you are capable of becoming." - John R. Wooden
by D Will to Succeed on Nov 24, 2011 1:31 PM EST up reply actions
reading some of the comments on his 50 pt game on youtube had me in stitches
He is Besiktas’ son, already a legend ! Don’t leave us Deron or i’ll cut my wrists.
salimaximus 1 day ago 36
deron williams is better than kyrie irving
by William_H_HOLLA on Nov 24, 2011 1:47 PM EST up reply actions
kind of sounds like nets fans to be honest
deron williams is better than kyrie irving
by William_H_HOLLA on Nov 24, 2011 1:47 PM EST up reply actions
Well not sure about the cutting of the wrist thing
Sounds like he’s serious.
"We're not there yet, but we're going somewhere," Johnson said. "And we're going to Brooklyn. We're not going to contract. We're going to Brooklyn."
Dwight Howard on Jay Leno last night.
He does a mean imitation of Charles Barkley, but no mention of where he might like to play.
Saw that too. Bad job by Jay
That would have been a great question to ask. If you guys loose the season you will be a free Agent won’t you?
Duhh
Maybe he was told that was off limits idk
RE-SIGN THE HUMP!!!
The JETS/NETS are coming!
by MrBDown on Nov 24, 2011 2:44 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Party Pooper
Adrian Wojnarowski
New Jersey’s Brook Lopez has an offer from Besiktas, but has yet to accept, sources tell Y! If he rejects it, Lamar Odom likely on deck.
29 minutes ago via UberSocial for BlackBerry
i wonder if deron had a hand in this
this would be amazing if it actually happened
deron williams is better than kyrie irving
by William_H_HOLLA on Nov 24, 2011 1:29 PM EST reply actions
so part 2 of projected Black Eagles Lineup
Deron,_______,_________,Brook,__________
lets see i’m thinking:
Deron, Morrow, Gordon, Brook, That Guy From Central Florida
would be wonderful to watch, they’d have to stream those live
The realist keepin it real amongst the surrealists
I was in Baghdad before these little B.G.'s was in they daddy-bags.
by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Nov 24, 2011 1:44 PM EST reply actions
they should get morrow over there too
In Prokhorov & Billy King WE TRUST.
8 > 3
DH12 OR BUST!
Official Member of the "Travis OutLOL Society". 5 years, 35 Million Dollars worth of lulz.
False Alarm
Until Lopez suits up for Besiktas this seems to be a false alarm. I don’t see Lopez having the balls to sign overseas. I hope he does though it would be a huge step.
by power_njerz on Nov 24, 2011 1:45 PM EST via mobile reply actions
LOL stop it.
I don’t see Lopez having the balls to sign overseas.
It’s probably cause he wants to see if the lockout will be over by Monday.
by vincecarter4pres on Nov 24, 2011 4:09 PM EST up reply actions
BLo got porcelain balls
Avery Johnson can go Outlaw himself.
Hey Avery: 我觉得你做得不是很好
NETS BASKETBALL…. JUST DEAL WITH IT!
Deron/who cares/who cares/who cares/ Brook
In Prokhorov & Billy King WE TRUST.
8 > 3
DH12 OR BUST!
Official Member of the "Travis OutLOL Society". 5 years, 35 Million Dollars worth of lulz.
With Deron and Brook on the same Team and great college players playing who needs the Nba
They just need to sign Morrow or Swag and we can call this Turkey daily. That team would be the most popular pro team in the world until other guys start signing.
Can’t wait to see Brook. The workouts with Robin will help too.
RE-SIGN THE HUMP!!!
The JETS/NETS are coming!
by MrBDown on Nov 24, 2011 2:48 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Well if things are actually moving ahead behind the scenes with the NBA
I think a number of players will wait a few more days before signing overseas.
"We're not there yet, but we're going somewhere," Johnson said. "And we're going to Brooklyn. We're not going to contract. We're going to Brooklyn."
LOL
DeronWilliams Deron Williams
“@jerry25a: @DeronWilliams They will have to sweeten the deal with comic book special and free passes to EuroDisney before Brook agrees” LOL
by OTRWaldo on Nov 24, 2011 4:04 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
LMFAO, this guy is gooood
"Most people on this board are like a broken clock, Only right two times a day"
https://twitter.com/#!/Meer2Fly16
Why do you have to send DWill stuff like this that mocks Nets players
Great way of selling the franchise….
by Anthony Perez on Nov 25, 2011 12:46 AM EST up reply actions 3 recs
Deron already knows BLo better than Nets fans. They sit next to each other on plane flights.
He laughed because he knows its true.
I’m sure that DWill was pulling for Brook to come to Turkey.
Even if Deron thinks it's funny
It comes out like you’re mocking Brook as a pansy who values comics over basketball. Not exactly what you want him believing about his team’s 2nd-best player when free agency is just around the corner.
by Anthony Perez on Nov 25, 2011 11:39 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Everyone already knows about Brook. DWill would not have gone along with making fun of Brook if he didn't already like him.
Its his “soft” reputation that is his problem, and it is up to Brook to prove it wrong on the court.
It is only what Orlando thinks that counts right now.
Besides, at the time I wrote it, and DWill responded, we all expected Brook to be given a chance to prove everyone wrong in Turkey.
Shortly later though, we learned that Odom was the choice, though we still don’t know if Brook had a say in the decision.
Since this is an overseas B Ball thread, where all the JR Smith BFF's at now?!
Haha homeboy!
His short stay over there has already turned into a self-initiated nuclear disaster.
by vincecarter4pres on Nov 24, 2011 5:03 PM EST reply actions
Lopez didn't get the comic/Disney deal Jerry 25 suggested?
Mete Aktas: L.Odom has agreed to sign with Besiktas for 6 months $720.000. Odom and his wife K. Kardashian will be in Turkey next week. @Marc Stein Twitter
"Success is peace of mind which is a direct result of self-satisfaction in knowing you did your best to become the best that you are capable of becoming." - John R. Wooden
by D Will to Succeed on Nov 24, 2011 5:52 PM EST reply actions
lopez is a lazy idiot
What else are is he doing?
speaking before you think can have severe consequences, however doing it in reverse can have beautiful results!
by Mike28Live on Nov 24, 2011 6:06 PM EST via mobile reply actions
* what else is he doing ?
speaking before you think can have severe consequences, however doing it in reverse can have beautiful results!
by Mike28Live on Nov 24, 2011 6:08 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
homie are you serious
DC launch 52
Brook can’t go overseas now DC comics just redid their whole universe.
My lil man.....can't tell me god don't exist.
by killa kadafi191 on Nov 24, 2011 6:57 PM EST up reply actions
Looking like Lopez will reject the contract and Besiktas will sign Odom. SMH trade this bum PLEASE
by mytoemytoe on Nov 24, 2011 6:12 PM EST via mobile reply actions
looks like no Lopez in Turkey
http://espn.go.com/los-angeles/nba/story/_/id/7277119/los-angeles-lakers-lamar-odom-besiktas-reach-agreement-sources-say
Odom has reached an agreement and the team can only sign 1 American player besides DWill
The coach's vision makes sense to me
Lamar can do everything Brook can and more.
Besiktas wanted a big man from the NBA even before Cleveland Cavaliers forward Semih Erden suffered a thumb injury in the win over Gottingen. According to various media reports in Turkey, Besiktas also entered into talks with Williams’ New Jersey teammate Brook Lopez this week while waiting on Odom’s decision.
But Aktas reported earlier Thursday that Besiktas coach Ergin Ataman preferred Odom even though Lopez is more of a traditional center. Besiktas can sign only one more foreign player in addition to Williams.
"I define passion as extreme emotion."
When you have to shoot, shoot don't talk.
link?
"It's as sweet as it ever was, I'll tell you. Now, hopefully, we started something and we can win some more championships, but we're going to enjoy this one right now. Have a little champagne." --Julius Erving, May 12, 1976, ABA champion Nets locker room.
look up DJ Heavy posted it
"I define passion as extreme emotion."
When you have to shoot, shoot don't talk.
i have lost respect for Brook
If he is not in shape or doesn’t grab at least 8 boards a game he can be traded as far as I’m concerned
I'm not prejudging Brook Lopez
who knows what the deal was.
"It's as sweet as it ever was, I'll tell you. Now, hopefully, we started something and we can win some more championships, but we're going to enjoy this one right now. Have a little champagne." --Julius Erving, May 12, 1976, ABA champion Nets locker room.
ha, and you think i'm a hater just because
Avery Johnson can go Outlaw himself.
Hey Avery: 我觉得你做得不是很好
NETS BASKETBALL…. JUST DEAL WITH IT!
Feels like a deal is coming down soon anyway
WojYahooNBA: Derek Fisher will attend Friday’s labor settlement meeting, source tells Y! Given legal complications, it suggests a deal is within reach.
"We're not there yet, but we're going somewhere," Johnson said. "And we're going to Brooklyn. We're not going to contract. We're going to Brooklyn."
And thus...
None of this matters
"It's as sweet as it ever was, I'll tell you. Now, hopefully, we started something and we can win some more championships, but we're going to enjoy this one right now. Have a little champagne." --Julius Erving, May 12, 1976, ABA champion Nets locker room.
by Net Income on Nov 24, 2011 7:31 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
further testament to BLo's basketball passion
Avery Johnson can go Outlaw himself.
Hey Avery: 我觉得你做得不是很好
NETS BASKETBALL…. JUST DEAL WITH IT!
Brook
I am glad that Brook doesn’t seem to be going overseas. Deron had to come back from an injury, and needed the playing time to get his game back. Brook’s problems last year were not game, they were energy. I wouldn’t want Brook playing overseas and putting more mileage on those big wheels. But I guess that THE HUMPH wishes that he had gone overseas three months ago, instead of marrying that no talent blimp. I hope he is able to channel his anger on the court. If he can, he will average 15 rebounds a game!
Paul from Sunny Delray Beach, Florida
wow absolutely no benefit of the doubt for Brook, come on guys
we know nothing about the terms of the deal and it looks like there’s a chance of this all being moot anyway if good things happen tomorrow. stop calling for the guy’s head.
BLo blows
Avery Johnson can go Outlaw himself.
Hey Avery: 我觉得你做得不是很好
NETS BASKETBALL…. JUST DEAL WITH IT!
Farmar dominated
Scored 21 in Euroleague win…ran pick and roll with Sofo Schortsianitos.
"It's as sweet as it ever was, I'll tell you. Now, hopefully, we started something and we can win some more championships, but we're going to enjoy this one right now. Have a little champagne." --Julius Erving, May 12, 1976, ABA champion Nets locker room.
by Net Income on Nov 24, 2011 8:03 PM EST via mobile reply actions
yup here's the video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zEv183qG-Hc&feature=player_embedded
"I define passion as extreme emotion."
When you have to shoot, shoot don't talk.
its about time
It takes years for some player to learn a proper pick and roll
by DJ HeavyDuty on Nov 24, 2011 9:49 PM EST up reply actions
I still don't buy it in an NBA setting til I see it.
He’s been pretty awful at it his while career thus far.
by vincecarter4pres on Nov 24, 2011 9:50 PM EST up reply actions
I give him a pass for age and running the triangle in LA
by DJ HeavyDuty on Nov 24, 2011 9:56 PM EST up reply actions
Eh, he's been in the league what, 6 years, or 5?
Pick and roll is more or less something you would have down at this point.
by vincecarter4pres on Nov 24, 2011 10:07 PM EST up reply actions
BLo does NOT deserve max contract
Avery Johnson can go Outlaw himself.
Hey Avery: 我觉得你做得不是很好
NETS BASKETBALL…. JUST DEAL WITH IT!
That doesn't mean he won't get one from somebody.
But likely case you’re looking at about 5 years and 70 million I would imagine, although you never know if he hits the open market.
by vincecarter4pres on Nov 24, 2011 8:45 PM EST up reply actions
trade him for a real star. lopez is NOT a Nets cornerstone.
Avery Johnson can go Outlaw himself.
Hey Avery: 我觉得你做得不是很好
NETS BASKETBALL…. JUST DEAL WITH IT!
Yeah Deron Williams is
You guys seriously have to calm down. Brook is going to be a terrific third option behind Howard and Williams. How often do big men come around that can get you 20 ppg in their third season. The guy is still learning and I expect his rebounding to get better.
by dwill8brooklynbound on Nov 24, 2011 9:44 PM EST up reply actions
I like Brook, but have soured on him some personally.
I would trade him for a number of players without hesitation though, but then again the players I would trade him for aren’t all realistic and most would say, “Oh, no crap dude, I would trade him for < insert star player name here>”
by vincecarter4pres on Nov 24, 2011 9:48 PM EST up reply actions
Lopez for Iggy would be perfect our defense would be crazy
Deron, Iggy, Dwight
Billy King would get fired if he made that trade
"I define passion as extreme emotion."
When you have to shoot, shoot don't talk.
Haha for real.
That is not one of the players i was talking about lol.
by vincecarter4pres on Nov 24, 2011 10:08 PM EST up reply actions
I'd definitely trade him for LMA.
Better trade bait for Dwight anyway.
by vincecarter4pres on Nov 24, 2011 10:37 PM EST up reply actions
That I would do
Iggy, however, not a chance!
by dwill8brooklynbound on Nov 24, 2011 10:43 PM EST up reply actions
LMA was a beast last year, although I would like to see him do it for another season.
Higher BBIQ, much more athletic, seems more dedicated although this isn’t proven right now, is a plus defender even while taking on a huge offensive load and he knows how to pass out of the post.
His numbers were pretty sick for awhile there and he lead a so so squad to a very respectable record.
His impact is just much greater then Brook right now.
Brook has the potential to get close, but I’m not convinced.
LMA hasn’t topped off yet either.
I also think at his age and with that bargain of a contract he would be a huge trade chip if needed.
by vincecarter4pres on Nov 24, 2011 11:22 PM EST up reply actions
hell yea I would ship brook out in heart beat for Lamarcus
My lil man.....can't tell me god don't exist.
by killa kadafi191 on Nov 24, 2011 10:54 PM EST up reply actions
Aldrige comes from a winner tho
If he came east there’s no doubt in my mind he’d be a star.
"I define passion as extreme emotion."
When you have to shoot, shoot don't talk.
Yea
Not only has LMA broken out as a star PF but he also has a great contract for the value.
Yeah if people salivate at the idea of Brook and Dwight...
Imagine LMA and Dwight.
by vincecarter4pres on Nov 24, 2011 11:44 PM EST up reply actions
Aldridge, Griffin, Dwight and maybe Love depending on the system you put him in
thats its, not trading brook for any guards/forwards unless his name is Wade, Lebron, Durant, Rose, and maybe Paul and Evans(pending injury)
The realist keepin it real amongst the surrealists
I was in Baghdad before these little B.G.'s was in they daddy-bags.
by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Nov 25, 2011 12:51 PM EST up reply actions
they'd be trading a good young center
w/o getting a big man back.
"I define passion as extreme emotion."
When you have to shoot, shoot don't talk.
Young is fool's gold and Iggy is meh.
IMHO.
by vincecarter4pres on Nov 24, 2011 10:52 PM EST up reply actions
BULLETIN!!!!
THE NEW JERSEY NETS WOULD NOT TRADE BROOK LOPEZ FOR EITHER CARMELO ANTHONY OR DERON WILLIAMS!
END OF BULLETIN…DEAL WITH IT.
"It's as sweet as it ever was, I'll tell you. Now, hopefully, we started something and we can win some more championships, but we're going to enjoy this one right now. Have a little champagne." --Julius Erving, May 12, 1976, ABA champion Nets locker room.
Thank you sir!
This is exactly what I tell people on another forum who are fans of other teams when we’re talking trades.
Sure, we have Deron and things have changed, so he may not be untouchable anymore, but he’s not getting dealt for some overpaid semi-star, especially when a lot of these teams secretly(or publicly) want to deal these guys for nothing more then a middling protected 1st or two and/or a B rate prospect and some salary relief.
And he especially isn’t being dealt for anything short of a retradable straight stud until we know what’s up with Dwight and how highly the Magic organization value Brook.
by vincecarter4pres on Nov 24, 2011 11:34 PM EST up reply actions
I think he"ll take it better than nothing
by Aidar Berlinbayev on Nov 24, 2011 8:50 PM EST reply actions
Maybe everyone’s drunk but the hate Brook is getting from the fans is embaressing.
Hours ago everyone was excited now people are bad mouthing him smh.
"I define passion as extreme emotion."
When you have to shoot, shoot don't talk.
by universal on Nov 24, 2011 9:26 PM EST reply actions 2 recs
i was ragging on him the whole day. i knew he didn't have the heart
Avery Johnson can go Outlaw himself.
Hey Avery: 我觉得你做得不是很好
NETS BASKETBALL…. JUST DEAL WITH IT!
IDK let's see why he didn't go.
Maybe Odom was there first choice and the offer was made to Brook with his knowledge it was only on the table if Odom declined.
Also, maybe he couldn’t get insured properly.
by vincecarter4pres on Nov 24, 2011 9:43 PM EST up reply actions
you forgot: recovering from mono
Avery Johnson can go Outlaw himself.
Hey Avery: 我觉得你做得不是很好
NETS BASKETBALL…. JUST DEAL WITH IT!
"I define passion as extreme emotion."
When you have to shoot, shoot don't talk.
by universal on Nov 24, 2011 9:51 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
i must be suffering from a serious case of beer goggles
Avery Johnson can go Outlaw himself.
Hey Avery: 我觉得你做得不是很好
NETS BASKETBALL…. JUST DEAL WITH IT!
You Can't Show That!
First APE picture to get booted over.
Well the people that were always bad mouthing him are still bad mouthing him.
And then some are just a little disappointed and then some are just quick to switch and hate lol, and of course there are the in betweeners.
by vincecarter4pres on Nov 24, 2011 9:41 PM EST up reply actions
I called it right again
Once again I called it. toots horn
Brook got the call thru his agent and prob thought about going overseas for a good 5 min b4 getting scared. Robin going over as a practice player? Sounded like nonsense. The fact that kevin Love and Deron spoke about teaming up and Lopez and Deron haven’t speaks volumes. Brook needs to step up and become a man, a leader. That aww shucks teenager role is getting old really fast. Brook your feet are to the fire this coming season, all eyes on you.
by power_njerz on Nov 24, 2011 10:04 PM EST via mobile reply actions
King should trade Brook while he can still coast on benefit of youth
Avery Johnson can go Outlaw himself.
Hey Avery: 我觉得你做得不是很好
NETS BASKETBALL…. JUST DEAL WITH IT!
Or.....
Not trade him, keep a 24 yr old big man with sky high potential who already scores 20 points per game, is 7 ft tall, 260 lbs, and oh yeah, has a deadly mid range Jumper.
by nets14 on Nov 24, 2011 10:10 PM EST up reply actions 7 recs
I am not in favor of trading Brook at all. Lets wait and see. I still say go after Dwight see how they mesh together and then trade Brook if it doesnt work out. Either way you lose nothing.
by power_njerz on Nov 24, 2011 11:53 PM EST up reply actions
What's the rush?
He’s a bargain for what he’s making now.
"I define passion as extreme emotion."
When you have to shoot, shoot don't talk.
Yeah but for how much longer?
Unless he turns a major corner he’s going to lose value and then be a guy you have to spend a majority of your cap on.
Not saying to knee jerk and say trade him for Iggy or Kevin Martin, but there maybe deals to be had that you have to entertain.
by vincecarter4pres on Nov 24, 2011 10:43 PM EST up reply actions
As long as he's on that rookie deal :)
The last 2 years were depressing to watch at times I think he picked up some bad habits…
I’d like to see how he responds to the playoff atmosphere. He was beasting his rookie year I’d like to see that fire from him consistently.
"I define passion as extreme emotion."
When you have to shoot, shoot don't talk.
SO Love turned down the offer and he's a hero, but Brook turns it down and he's a seamstress?
Listen Brook has been called out for his heart before for good reason and doesn’t deserve a pass anymore, but let’s wait and see the reasons behind this before condemning the guy.
by vincecarter4pres on Nov 24, 2011 10:39 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
I'm not convinced Brook turned down offer, but rather procrastinated while Lamar finally agreed.
Apparently they have a different way to negotiate contracts in Turkey, vs. the USA.
How can you make formal offers to 2 players at the same time?
I also can’t imagine that Odom would be cheaper to insure than Lopez.
I also can’t imagine that Odom would be cheaper to insure than Lopez.
I wouldn’t be so sure.
Brook is on the eve of entering a very lucrative contract coming off his rookie deal.
When it comes to an agreement on what his next deal, on what it would construe, that topic is up to much debate.
I doubt the insurance is just about what their current contract value is.
by vincecarter4pres on Nov 25, 2011 4:29 AM EST up reply actions
Get rid of Lopez. He's a Bagnani wannabe.
Soccer players are more physical than Lopez.
Just kidding , but not really !
"This isn’t fantasy or rotisserie basketball. Why would Denver want Outlaw? Would you?" - Al Iannazzone
Wtf is up with all the Lopez haters??
what is wrong with you guys? You have no clue as to why he didn’t go. and dont say Disney or comic books. He’s apart of the team and has been very efficient for us. Stop hatin dammit.
sorry for saying wtf NI, felt it was appropriate
Nets Mets Giants ALL DAY
by netsareboss on Nov 25, 2011 1:12 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
Who says Brook is Soft??
Crazy
How do the tea leaves look now: DWill to LA.!!!
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