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Finding Teammates For Easy Baskets Not a Farmar Strength, Data Shows

Is Jordan Farmar a lousy point guard because he can't find teammates for easy baskets or are his teammates just not that good getting in place for easy baskets? Devin Kharpertian argues it's more about Farmar than it is about his teammates, although he doesn't exonerate them.

In analyzing where Farmar's assists come from, Kharpertian finds that only two playmakers --Darren Collison and Brandon Jennings-- had worse "assist value" than Farmar. Less than half of Farmar;s assists came on dunks, layups and three pointers. The league average is 62%.  Of course, Kharpertian notes, only Kris Humphries and Derrick Favors attacked the rim for the Nets last season and in his 12 games, Deron Williams didn't do much better.

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The age old question...

Do average players look and play much better because they are on winning teams ?

And do those same players look like bums beacuse they are on losing teams ?

by M I K E on Nov 23, 2011 1:19 PM EST reply actions  

Lol

D-Will > Carmela

by Gdepp94 on Nov 23, 2011 2:40 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Lol

D-Will > Carmela

by Gdepp94 on Nov 23, 2011 2:40 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Lol

D-Will > Carmela

by Gdepp94 on Nov 23, 2011 2:40 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Avery is blameless. Absolutely not Avery's fault. No way. Inconceivable.

Avery Johnson can go Outlaw himself.
Hey Avery: 我觉得你做得不是很好
NETS BASKETBALL…. JUST DEAL WITH IT!

by 3ptChucker on Nov 23, 2011 1:29 PM EST reply actions  

Cheer up Chucker...

Owners and players are in talks again, going on as we speak, according to Woj…

by M I K E on Nov 23, 2011 1:31 PM EST up reply actions  

with all due respect, don't be a sucker, Mike

Avery Johnson can go Outlaw himself.
Hey Avery: 我觉得你做得不是很好
NETS BASKETBALL…. JUST DEAL WITH IT!

by 3ptChucker on Nov 23, 2011 1:41 PM EST up reply actions  

I root for the Nets don't I...

I guess I’m beyond hope…Once a sucker always a sucker.

by M I K E on Nov 23, 2011 1:57 PM EST up reply actions  

We have Deron for that!!!!!

@Al_Iannazzone: BREAKING NEWS: Nets are close to acquiring Deron WIlliams from Utah, sources told The Record.
-Feburary 23, 10:54 am.

by Andy. on Nov 23, 2011 1:37 PM EST reply actions  

Avery sucks

and in his 12 games, Deron Williams didn’t do much better.

Avery Johnson can go Outlaw himself.
Hey Avery: 我觉得你做得不是很好
NETS BASKETBALL…. JUST DEAL WITH IT!

by 3ptChucker on Nov 23, 2011 1:42 PM EST up reply actions  

cant wait for this, when the season starts…

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GjrenVWxjG8&feature=fvwrel

@Al_Iannazzone: BREAKING NEWS: Nets are close to acquiring Deron WIlliams from Utah, sources told The Record.
-Feburary 23, 10:54 am.

by Andy. on Nov 23, 2011 1:42 PM EST up reply actions  

Nets won that game

"It's as sweet as it ever was, I'll tell you. Now, hopefully, we started something and we can win some more championships, but we're going to enjoy this one right now. Have a little champagne." --Julius Erving, May 12, 1976, ABA champion Nets locker room.

by Net Income on Nov 23, 2011 1:58 PM EST up reply actions  

Only blind people wouldn't see that Farmer isn't a good PG

but the pessimistic one is always wrong apparently

"Most people on this board are like a broken clock, Only right two times a day"
https://twitter.com/#!/Meer2Fly16

by Shameer1016 on Nov 23, 2011 2:19 PM EST reply actions  

Blame the triangle offense in LA or his mentality

He’s best when aggressive.

The game that was on NBATV he was attacking the defense.
I get the feeling the coach doesn’t want his PG to dominate the ball like our players do here.

"I define passion as extreme emotion."

When you have to shoot, shoot don't talk.

by universal on Nov 23, 2011 2:36 PM EST reply actions  

I dont know why people

didnt see this before.

Farmar is a combo guard. He isnt a PG. To tell you the truth, Morrow and Farmar are redundant. Farmar has shown me that he can really hit the needed three. As for passing, he isnt a pure pg. He convinced us when he signed last year that he had more to his game then hitting shots playing off Kobe. Clearly he lied.

I hope he stays on because if we have Dwill we wont need Farmar to to handle the rock for more then 15 min a game, but I would love to see Farmar and Dwill in the back court. Either guy can feed off the other. Dwill, Farmar, Morrow and Brooks is a decent G rotation. We just have to hope we can get a SG/SF defender to guard the opposing SG/SF, because unless Brooks can prove he can guard someone, we are going to get torched by the opposing SG/SF.

Official Member of the "DIDN'T WANT TO TRADE DERRICK FAVORS, BUT HAPPY WE GOT D. WILLIAMS" Movement

by SIC One on Nov 23, 2011 2:50 PM EST reply actions  

If by redundant you mean that they both have

a shooter’s mentality. Yes, you are right. The problem with Farmar is he thinks he shoots like Morrow. He is very erratic with his shot selection, and although he hits big shots. He takes way too many 3s. This is brought on by the lack of a midrange game. I love the signing and still do because sometimes you need scoring punch off of the bench from a point guard. His defense is suspect but he had big games last year when he was called on to start in a pinch (OKC for example). But Morrow is very different. He is one of the best shooters around. He doesn’t do much else and he definitely doesn’t drive it like Farmar can. Love Morrow and can’t wait to see what he can do with a real point guard

Happy to see Billy King graduated in an accelerated "how to make a trade" class in just one night :)

by Scoot21 on Nov 23, 2011 5:01 PM EST up reply actions  

anyone know...

how Farm’s assists overseas look?

by PigDaddy3 on Nov 24, 2011 2:10 AM EST reply actions  

farmar is a young but flawed pg. he has only 1 year out of the triangle

He needs to learn how to throw a proper post pass, pick and roll, penetrate and hand off. I believe Farmar learned bad habits from Devin. Holding the ball until late in the shot clock, and jacking up a brick. Jordan needs to work on his floater. He can get into the lane but his floater and mid range pull up jumper are terrible. If he does improve these areas it will open up his teammates

by DJ HeavyDuty on Nov 24, 2011 8:12 AM EST reply actions  

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