No Deal, But No "Reset" Either; Players, NBA To Resume Negotiations In New York Thursday
by NetsDaily on Nov 10, 2011 8:45 AM EST
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The NBA and the Players Association met for 12 hours on Wednesday. The bad news is that they still haven't reached a deal. The good news is that the NBA is freezing it's timeline in regard to a "reset" proposal until they get through this session, which will continue Thursday at noon.
System issues were the focus, and Adrian Wojnarowski tweets that progress was made on three of the five key ones, adding "this remains a tenuous process but the owners wouldn't have, as Stern termed it,, 'stopped the clock,' without real progress. Onto Thursday".. But Billy Hunter said afterward that the two sides still don't have an agreement on the economics.
"We're not failing," David Stern said, "and we're not succeeding." Meanwhile, Forbes reports that the Nets would be among five teams that would lose less money by not playing any games this season.
- NBA and players to talk again Thursday - Brian Mahoney - AP
- Time For Some Action - Sekou Smith - NBA.com
- N.B.A. Talks Yield Progress but No Breakthrough Yet - Howard Beck - New York Times
- NBA-NBPA talks pass deadline; still no deal - Ken Berger - CBS Sports
- Sources: 'Significant' progress made toward deal - Adrian Wojnarowski - Yahoo! Sports
- NBA talks conclude; no major progress - Chris Broussard - ESPN
- Count on 50/50, despite talk - Henry Abbott - ESPN
- Nothing decided, talks to resume Thursday - Alan Hahn - New York Newsday
- Still no deal between NBA, players; sides to meet again Thursday - Sean Deveney - Sporting News
- NBA-NBPA talks pass deadline; still no deal - Ben Golliver - CBS Sports
- NBA lockout talk optimistic, or just confusing? - Sam Amico - FOX Sports
- Five NBA Teams Would Lose Less Money With No Season - Mike Ozanizan - Forbes
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These are serious negotiations in crunch time.
Section 18, Row 7 at The Rock!
"Your 2010-2011 New Jersey Nets - It Is What It Is"
Game 7 down by 1 with 5 seconds left in the 4th
Lets hope Kobe has the rock and can pull through in the clutch rather then having Lebron tossing up a brick and sending us back to the drawing board. Get’r done !!!
nevermind I just saw someone already posted this on the previous CBA thread lol
by Andres B on Nov 10, 2011 3:35 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
is it supposed to look like its lagging?
Nets Mets Giants ALL DAY
by netsareboss on Nov 10, 2011 5:31 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Guarantee a deal gets done on Mon. The NBA is going to want all the press. Right now there are way too many stories in the news. Mon nite news cycle so that they have a whole week of press. Lots of activity and player movement rumors. The players HAVE to accept this final deal.
by power_njerz on Nov 10, 2011 2:47 AM EST via mobile reply actions
I have a feeling nothing is happening tomorrow.
My lil man.....can't tell me god don't exist.
by killa kadafi191 on Nov 10, 2011 2:53 AM EST reply actions
It would be amazing for this to get done on Monday
Would be the best birthday present EVER!
haha my birthday is tuesday
"Dear Mark - You showed the world not only what a great team you have, but also, that you can remain silent for a period of weeks--I don't know which is more shocking!"
DWill Era- 7-18
Oh-oh, my birthday is in January!
not "that" Jersey Shore...Point Pleasant, 10 refreshing miles north of Seaside.
by John at the Jersey Shore on Nov 10, 2011 6:44 PM EST up reply actions
I think Melo will be a Net by Monday
by JackTr1pper on Nov 10, 2011 6:08 AM EST via mobile reply actions 10 recs
Cousins!
No…Favors!
not "that" Jersey Shore...Point Pleasant, 10 refreshing miles north of Seaside.
by John at the Jersey Shore on Nov 10, 2011 9:23 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
I just want this to be over with already! Hopefully they coneare to an agreement tommorow so the Nets can start building a Championship team!
I know Billy has had more then enough time to put some strategies together on how to get the players he wants! Let’s get this done!!!!
by Rp15x on Nov 10, 2011 6:25 AM EST via mobile reply actions
There is definitely progress...
But season will be cancelled..
by atec on Nov 10, 2011 7:25 AM EST reply actions 9 recs
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by Kmart6nets on Nov 10, 2011 8:12 AM EST reply actions 2 recs
Good MMMMMMMMMMMOOOOOOOOOOOoooooooooooRRRRRrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrNING
Dwight or bust....
Superbowl or bust...
Or ever
At this rate, the NBA will never come back ! :P
Hey, atleast when..
The season starts, Deron Williams won’t be rusty… I will say though, getting someone like a Tyson Chandler will strengthen our defense in the frontcourt.
Just remember this source from yesterday PRIOR to meetings..
Alex Kennedy: I just asked an NBPA source for a prediction: "I think we’ll get really close tonight and then hammer out a deal tomorrow." We’ll see. about 18 minutes ago
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Yankees>Rest of MLB
They Finally called up Baby Jesus
I love these pundits..."You say hello and I say goodbye"
Sources: ‘Significant’ progress made toward deal – Adrian Wojnarowski – Yahoo! Sports
NBA talks conclude; no major progress - Chris Broussard – ESPN
That's ESPN Insider's info right there
"Most people on this board are like a broken clock, Only right two times a day"
"_________ has a face of a Star, and that Star is Lassie"-Jeff Ross
by Shameer1016 on Nov 10, 2011 10:30 AM EST up reply actions
Don't they say that everytime?
Nets Mets Giants ALL DAY
by netsareboss on Nov 10, 2011 10:19 AM EST up reply actions
This is the new Melo story
I’m now fully expecting the season to be cancelled.
I make that my expectation so that I can have a “NETS GET DERON WILLIAMS” moment if a deal is reached.
good idea
I was coming to terms with trading Devin Harris for injured Caron Butler when the Deron Williams trade went down
by sheepareevil on Nov 10, 2011 2:09 PM EST up reply actions
but its already November 10th...
Nets Mets Giants ALL DAY
by netsareboss on Nov 10, 2011 10:32 AM EST up reply actions
OHHHH
i gotchu haha
Nets Mets Giants ALL DAY
by netsareboss on Nov 10, 2011 10:32 AM EST up reply actions
What did they do the last short season?
Will free agent signings be tradable come the trade deadline?
Maybe dancing animals ain't your thing...
Would you rather play a game of pool while waiting for this lockout to end ?
this is gettin f in crazy
They said about two weeks ago that this was 95% done and the five percent was basically bri its always the same poop comin out david stern and billy hunters mouth
by Pure baller15 on Nov 10, 2011 11:41 AM EST via mobile reply actions
MIKE
You really crack me up with your pics and videos.
Official Member of the "DIDN'T WANT TO TRADE DERRICK FAVORS, BUT HAPPY WE GOT D. WILLIAMS" Movement
i find him annoying
i’d say he is beating a dead horse with his pics but then he will just put of a picture of a dead horse being beaten.
I love the Nets...too bad they don't love me...
by BEB on Nov 10, 2011 12:08 PM EST up reply actions 5 recs
so annoying +1
FRANKS AND BEANS FRANKS AND BEANS
by lemmetakeutodamovies on Nov 10, 2011 12:25 PM EST up reply actions
predictions?
1 a.m : stern: “we have discussed some things. we talked. back and forth. we’ll be back at it. the clock’s still stopped. we got a ways to go, the clock might not be able to be stopped much longer”
hunter: “virtually every issue needs to be resolved still”
woj: "tomorrow morning, the deal will be sealed,source says’
brousard: “with no progress,union will decertify tomorrow,source says”
by soul driver on Nov 10, 2011 12:25 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Prediction: Stern Wants the Headlines
An announcement will be made in prime time, likely tomorrow or Monday after the Penn State stuff has started to blow over. Stern will want the deal & pending free agency to create a strong buzz, not fly under the radar. He’s got the players on the hook already. He’ll make sure hey “slowly make progress” until the opportune time for an announcement, and then make the final concessions. Next week is probably the ideal time.
I don't think Penn State stuff blows over
ANYTIME soon. If/when a deal is ready to be done, they’ll announce it asap.
by Kmart6nets on Nov 10, 2011 12:53 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
that makes sense
Penn state has been the focus of sports discussions for several days now. I hope he announces a deal being reached by the weekend
by i says on Nov 10, 2011 1:41 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
All time greatest Nets fantasy female team...
by M I K E on Nov 10, 2011 12:37 PM EST reply actions 5 recs
Take out Beadle
"Most people on this board are like a broken clock, Only right two times a day"
"_________ has a face of a Star, and that Star is Lassie"-Jeff Ross
I was just joking lol I know how much you guys fantasize about her
"Most people on this board are like a broken clock, Only right two times a day"
"_________ has a face of a Star, and that Star is Lassie"-Jeff Ross
stern got a lot of power
Only person i know that can freeze time
by Pure baller15 on Nov 10, 2011 12:53 PM EST via mobile reply actions 1 recs
I think Alan Hahn is making it up as he goes along...
He’s tweeting remarks every 5 minutes….
Exhibit A:
alanhahn Alan Hahn
This is no longer about taking from the players. This is now owners vs owners. Haves vs Have-Nots. The players need not be in the room.
21 minutes ago
Latest update-
Players and owners are reportedly ‘inches away’ and ‘miles apart’ from an agreement.
by mytoemytoe on Nov 10, 2011 1:24 PM EST reply actions 4 recs
We can officially kick off the Harrison Barnes watch starting Tomm.
Go 2012-2013 Nets!
by ItsAllNets on Nov 10, 2011 2:46 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Wish it was that easy guys...
The NBA might drag us thru this crap until January 6th before they cancel the season….
I believe that was the cut off date issued by Stern in the last lockout of 1998/1999...
He told the players union that was the date he would have to cancel the season. The reasoning being that less then 50 games season is not doable…
That would be a sucky birthday present for me
not "that" Jersey Shore...Point Pleasant, 10 refreshing miles north of Seaside.
by John at the Jersey Shore on Nov 10, 2011 6:46 PM EST up reply actions
Marc Stein: Next big hurdle in NBA labor dispute: Sides finally agreeing on restrictions for tax teams on use of mid-level exception and sign-and-trades Twitter
"Success is peace of mind which is a direct result of self-satisfaction in knowing you did your best to become the best that you are capable of becoming." - John R. Wooden
by D Will to Succeed on Nov 10, 2011 3:07 PM EST reply actions
Before the meetings even started today. Old news.
by ItsAllNets on Nov 10, 2011 3:12 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
so it's not even a big deal
I don’t think you can trust anyone anymore. Even if you talk directly to several sources, you’ll probably find completely different opinions. There’s no point in speculating because in the end the only way to find out is whether a deal was reached or not.
by i says on Nov 10, 2011 3:18 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
these people need the press
they need good news. So if a deal is not met during prime time and the meeting is going on passed 11 eastern time nothing is happening.
this all a game.
seriously I expect nothing to happen.
i was hoping for the union to decertify.
My lil man.....can't tell me god don't exist.
by killa kadafi191 on Nov 10, 2011 4:10 PM EST reply actions
Sam amick retweeted that the CBA has been agreed upon don’t know if it’s true!!
by ItsAllNets on Nov 10, 2011 4:36 PM EST via mobile reply actions
i hope there is no season, odds are nets draft pick would be top 5 in a stacked draft
if they play, the nets will be mildly competitive. maybe squeak into an 8th seed with the current roster. it will also protect billy king from himself, into throwing too much money at a nene or david west. then you can make a run a legitimate run at dwight and still have Nene or West as a Plan B option. Sure I’d like to see bball this year, but in the long run it’s better for the Nets if there is no season period. Let’s be honest, it’s not like they were gonna be title contenders this year.
deron williams is better than kyrie irving
by William_H_HOLLA on Nov 10, 2011 4:38 PM EST reply actions
You're really that much of a Nets fan?
I could never operate that way. I’m not criticized; I just find it very interesting, as it’s a completely different approach than I take.
At the end of the day, to me, sports is just a form of entertainment. I happen to have some fictitious connection to individual teams, but that’s only to further the level of entertainment that I draw from watching a certain sport.
I just could never understand wanting a season to be lost because it’s better for a team I happen to root for. What’s even more interesting is that I may be in the minority.
I guess I'm a huge fan then. A shortened season with an asterisk next to it is less important to me
than seeing the Nets go into Brooklyn with a legitimate NBA squad. I think a 50 game season in an empty stadium in Newark would be wack. It would be cool to see lebron finally get his ring this year but I’m already over this NBA season I guess.
deron williams is better than kyrie irving
by William_H_HOLLA on Nov 10, 2011 4:49 PM EST up reply actions
Interesting.
I’m already over this NBA season I guess.
Well, I’ll tell you this, we’re certainly different.
none of this posturing from both sides has soured you on the NBA this year?
deron williams is better than kyrie irving
by William_H_HOLLA on Nov 10, 2011 4:56 PM EST up reply actions
No...
It’s the nature of things.
I think, to take it personally, is quite naive.
i'm not taking it personally and naive isn't the right word. i'm indifferent.
their whining and fighting over fan’s money has made me apathetic to an NBA season. i just don’t care about it. i’m more concerned with the NFL right now and then pitchers and catchers report a few weeks after the super bowl. the NFL settled their labor dispute quickly, and it worked out. the NHL lost a season, and they play their stanley cup games on VS network now. If you really want a 50 game season that’s your MO but don’t call me naive for not wanting one or caring about one if it happens.
deron williams is better than kyrie irving
by William_H_HOLLA on Nov 10, 2011 5:13 PM EST up reply actions
Several contradictions in your post, but let's just agree to disagree.
We’ll see what happens.
like what?
deron williams is better than kyrie irving
by William_H_HOLLA on Nov 10, 2011 5:19 PM EST up reply actions
william many people feel the way you
honestly a recent poll was taken saying 78 percent of sports fans did not miss the NBA.
Honestly I don’t either.
I want the season cancel because honestly both sides can get what they deserve.
I rather no season not because I feel it will be an advantage to the Nets because at one point you stop caring.
My lil man.....can't tell me god don't exist.
by killa kadafi191 on Nov 10, 2011 5:27 PM EST up reply actions
See, that's BS. I don't buy it.
You haven’t stopped caring. If you truly stopped caring, you wouldn’t be posting here.
You may be frustrated, you may want the season to be cancelled (which is very hard for me to wrap my head around), but I don’t believe that you’ve stopped caring.
By the way, if the season is cancelled, both sides won’t get what they deserve.
Posting here means I care about the NBA???
also if the season is cancel basketball will be hurt for years how is both sides not getting what the deserve.
NBA is entertainment.
when I don’t like what I see I find something else to entertain me.
No NBA?? No problem.
I’m not frustrated about millionaires and billionaires arguing over money. More problems in the world to worry about than this
My lil man.....can't tell me god don't exist.
by killa kadafi191 on Nov 10, 2011 6:05 PM EST up reply actions
casual fans don't care about the NBA now because cares about the NBA in the fall/early winter
once football season ends that’ll change.
by sheepareevil on Nov 10, 2011 5:39 PM EST up reply actions
You just weren't jaded enough to start with, but now you maybe you are
All this whining and posturing over money just confirms my low opinion of the movers and shakers on both sides. A bunch of whiny millionaires are running this whole thing.
not "that" Jersey Shore...Point Pleasant, 10 refreshing miles north of Seaside.
by John at the Jersey Shore on Nov 10, 2011 6:54 PM EST up reply actions
I'm with you, Dopeness
It just entertainment. And we would probably somehow get screwed in the draft and with Dwight. Let them play, it’s like a train wreck. You have to look.
not "that" Jersey Shore...Point Pleasant, 10 refreshing miles north of Seaside.
by John at the Jersey Shore on Nov 10, 2011 6:49 PM EST up reply actions
sorry
But I’m a Nets fan because I enjoy watching them play basketball.
by i says on Nov 10, 2011 4:58 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
i havent enjoyed watching them play basketball since devins all star year rofl
deron williams is better than kyrie irving
by William_H_HOLLA on Nov 10, 2011 5:01 PM EST up reply actions
I'm with William 100%
In Prokhorov & Billy King WE TRUST.
8 > 3
DH12 OR BUST!
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by D Will to Succeed on Nov 10, 2011 4:43 PM EST reply actions
im boycotting if no deal is reached
over the weekend
Check out the funniest person on youtube Edbassmaster: http://www.youtube.com/user/edbassmaster
Yankees>Rest of MLB
They Finally called up Baby Jesus
i will lol
Check out the funniest person on youtube Edbassmaster: http://www.youtube.com/user/edbassmaster
Yankees>Rest of MLB
They Finally called up Baby Jesus
by BrettGardnerLF on Nov 10, 2011 5:27 PM EST up reply actions
There's nothing to boycott!
… just sayin’
yeah following them on nbatv
the media, twitter, whatever.
Check out the funniest person on youtube Edbassmaster: http://www.youtube.com/user/edbassmaster
Yankees>Rest of MLB
They Finally called up Baby Jesus
by BrettGardnerLF on Nov 10, 2011 5:29 PM EST up reply actions
http://espn.kall700sports.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/Dave-Checketts-11-10-11.mp3
Tell me this doesn’t make you optimistic.
really, we have to look at it from a more simplistic way: the only time to be optimistic is when we see them shaking hands
whatever this reporter or that reporter or this friend of the league or that friend of the league says is irrelevant.
and once they DO shake hands, whenever that will be..cross your fingers it gets ratified by the owners.
true
but i look for optimism whenever i can. Although with something like this, it usually backfires
me too...I was SUPER optimistic a month or two ago
gotta control my emotions. not fun getting hurt over and over. and I’ve learned to not take it as serious anymore..too much backfiring as you said.
dont understand
how a friend of the commissioner and one of the sources who is very close to talks saying it’s over doesn’t make you optimistic but thats not my problem
neither did i
but when i found out who he was, his words meant something more than just another source to me
oh baby!
Chris Vernon: I was looking at twitter while on the air and said "Woah! Steph Curry just tweeted "Done"" and then right after that, the tweet was gone
Read more: http://hoopshype.com/twitter/media.html#ixzz1dLQwqt3y
Dwight or bust....
Superbowl or bust...
I will not listen to any more tweets, no matter what
unless all the reporters and owners and players all have similar tweets
Nets Mets Giants ALL DAY
oh god...
Henry Abbott: Checketts at end, after call waiting beeps: “I’m being told now … perhaps they’ve taken a step back, it’s not as close as I thought.”
Read more: http://hoopshype.com/twitter/media.html#ixzz1dLWclVPZ
Dwight or bust....
Superbowl or bust...
if only right?
@tribjazz
Final update for now: #RSL’s Dave Checketts told #NBA deal mostly done; backtracks during @ESPN700 interview
So far 3 guys posted 3 different views from writers Twitters.
I wonder which one is correct.
"Most people on this board are like a broken clock, Only right two times a day"
"_________ has a face of a Star, and that Star is Lassie"-Jeff Ross
honestly..the only thing to believe is when the deal has been ratified by both sides
we can get all happy for an agreement..but it’s not a deal until it’s voted on by both sides. and therin can lie a big problem, and we can be back at square one again.
Hour after hour ... Day after day ... Week after week ...
I can’t believe how protracted these negotiations have been. You’d think these guys were trying to split an atom.
by nynjlawyer on Nov 10, 2011 6:33 PM EST via mobile reply actions
I tell my clients to check their ego at the door
I am mindful of the fact that this is a complex negotiation with several subcomponents and parties (within parties) with competing interests, but this is ridiculous.
by nynjlawyer on Nov 10, 2011 6:53 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
This is Carmela situation all over again
One minute it’s close, the other we take steps back… FFS :(
In Prokhorov & Billy King WE TRUST.
8 > 3
DH12 OR BUST!
Official Member of the "Travis OutLOL Society". 5 years, 35 Million Dollars worth of lulz.
Dark Souls>Skyrim
BF3>MW3
In Prokhorov & Billy King WE TRUST.
8 > 3
DH12 OR BUST!
Official Member of the "Travis OutLOL Society". 5 years, 35 Million Dollars worth of lulz.
MW3 is freaking garbage
$65 worth of trash. Its just like MW2, except there hasn’t been any hacking……yet.
"Most people on this board are like a broken clock, Only right two times a day"
"_________ has a face of a Star, and that Star is Lassie"-Jeff Ross
Dark Souls > video games
Timeless - The 2001-2003 NJ Nets
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nima3dmLrcw
I know I shouldn't take any deal at all for granted.
but damnit I want it done today. not monday. not tomorrow. Today!
by sheepareevil on Nov 10, 2011 7:37 PM EST up reply actions
It's not over...
until I get a confirmation tweet from NBASource5
Timeless - The 2001-2003 NJ Nets
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nima3dmLrcw
no season
My lil man.....can't tell me god don't exist.
by killa kadafi191 on Nov 10, 2011 9:18 PM EST up reply actions
community was good
now 8mile sup dancer how the fam
My lil man.....can't tell me god don't exist.
by killa kadafi191 on Nov 10, 2011 9:28 PM EST up reply actions
there we'll be a season in Jan
Brooklyn we go hard...
by Fabio Villani on Nov 10, 2011 9:20 PM EST up reply actions
They just don't get it
Arrogance, greed and stupidity are a toxic combination. Players have a very limited shelf life and will never get this money back. They are the biggest fools in this equation.
by nynjlawyer on Nov 10, 2011 9:57 PM EST via mobile up reply actions 2 recs
Of course
Idk why I even follow this crap anymore ughhhhhhhhhh
WojYahooNBA Adrian Wojnarowski After finishing call with owners' labor relations committee, David Stern will deliver union a revised offer tonight, league sources tell Y!
and this is where the talks will break up
It's like a bad rerun
If it weren’t for Brooklyn I’d be done with the NBA for a long time. This truly is infuriating watching these jerks fight over how to divide OUR money.
by nynjlawyer on Nov 10, 2011 10:17 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
amen.
and if I didn’t know people who’s jobs were at stake because of this :\
by soul driver on Nov 10, 2011 10:18 PM EST up reply actions
I just hope for Nets' sake that owneres don't give in on no extend and trade and no S&T for teams over the cap.
Players still unhappy with those issues and don’t like the mini-mid level alternative to MLE for Tax paying teams.
Nets would get to keep DWill and Howard couldn’t go to Lakers on a long term contract.
Chris Broussard: Hope? ownership source says revised offer will give players "meaningful stuff" while staying at 50/50 BRI. Called talks "complicated."
sorry, “meaningful stuff” doesn’t cut it for me.
No one has said that the meeting is over.
May go on for hours, unless the rooms are already rented by someone else for the weekend!!
After watching the news conference I have some confidence...
Their are still many “B list” issues that need to be resolved but I feel like the players feel they have done all they can and that the owners have put out what they can. I think after the players get a look at this over the weekend we will have some good news Monday or Tuesday. Billy said it best at the end of the conference “We feel we are at the end and we just want to get this done.” Forget the tweets, forget all the spin. Just by watching the news conference you can see the players are at their end and just want to get back to playing ball. We WILL have basketball. Put a stamp on it.
by Christopher Manchesi on Nov 10, 2011 11:14 PM EST reply actions
Were you watching on NBATV?
It appears to still be going on.
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