More Progress Sets Up Friday As Possible Day For A Deal
by NetsDaily on Oct 28, 2011 12:19 AM EDT
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PrintMore hope came from Thursday's labor negotiations in Manhattan. This meeting was only half as long as Wednesday's, and the BRI split was still not discussed, but more progress was made on system issues. And both sides see Friday as the day to make a deal, or at least get much closer to one.
"There are no guarantees that we'll get it done, but we're going to give it one heck of a shot tomorrow," David Stern said. Asked if he could see what a new CBA looks like, Stern said, "Yes."
“I think we’re within reach and within striking distance of getting a deal," said Billy Hunter.
Negotiations are expected to begin at 10:30 a.m. Friday with most of those covering the talks expecting the two sides to go deep into the night or even Saturday morning. Between the beginning of renewed bargaining on Wednesday through last night, negotiators have spent 21 1/2 hours together.
- NBA sides eager to get deal in next few days - Brian Mahoney - AP
- NBA, players on cusp of agreement - Adrian Wojnarowski - Yahoo!
- Stern on labor deal: Friday's the day - Ken Berger - CBS Sports
- Cautious Optimism as N.B.A. Talks Break for the Night - Howard Beck - New York Times
- NBA Lockout -- Sides wrap talks for night, will meet again Friday - Chris Broussard - ESPN
- Three reasons for the new mood - Henry Abbott - ESPN
- NBA Lockout On Verge Of Deal Creating Two Salary Caps - Tom Ziller - SB Nation
- Lockout update: BRI split to be discussed Friday - Chris Sheridan - SheridanHoops
- Labor Talks: Let’s Make A Deal (Video) - Sekou Smith & David Aldridge - NBA.com
- NBPA News Conference (Video) - NBA.com
- Stern and Silver News Conference (Video) - NBA.com
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instead of sh**
say poo, like bull-poo, poo-head or this poo is cold, mm’kay
love thy underdog
by lemmetakeutodamovies on Oct 27, 2011 11:08 PM EDT up reply actions 6 recs
He said "maybe" when I asked him earlier what he thought
Change of thought by NI. I like the optimism.
by dwill8brooklynbound on Oct 27, 2011 11:04 PM EDT up reply actions
No sunday, its a Holiday lol
"Most people on this board are like a broken clock, Only right two times a day"
Holy crap
we might actually have basketball again….
by NetsKiNG on Oct 27, 2011 11:04 PM EDT reply actions 3 recs
at least will finnaly get into all the juicy free agent stuff
by Pure baller15 on Oct 27, 2011 11:11 PM EDT up reply actions
I agree with this. The two or three weeks of compressed free agency and trades will be manic.
2010-2011 = acquire an All-Star via cap space as Thorn himself said
2011-2012 = make the playoffs without hindering future flexibility
2012 off-season = sign the second All-Star
2012-2013 = make a run for the championship
Mission accomplished thus far.
And the fact that they are meeting earlier, at 10:30 am, tells me something
They want to have the whole day to make this deal, and seem to have a real sense of urgency to make one. I really hope I don’t get let down (again) though.
by dwill8brooklynbound on Oct 27, 2011 11:10 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm very cautiously optimistic
NI seems positive about a deal happening this week. he’s been in negoations before, I take his word. but it can honestly go either way. or, all the way until Monday. trick or treat!
by soul driver on Oct 27, 2011 11:11 PM EDT up reply actions
It's mainly because Stern was positively beaming during the press conference
Like a kid who comes out of the SATs thinking to himself, “Nailed it!”
2010-2011 = acquire an All-Star via cap space as Thorn himself said
2011-2012 = make the playoffs without hindering future flexibility
2012 off-season = sign the second All-Star
2012-2013 = make a run for the championship
Mission accomplished thus far.
Who else can't wait for the "fight for Dwight"
As aggravating as the Melo drama was, it was EXCITING. And the fact that Dwight is miles better then Melo will make this time around even more exciting. Also, the fact that you can make the case that we are the frontrunners makes it all the better. Cheers to staying up late and checking the twitter feeds all night for Dwight rumors lol
by dwill8brooklynbound on Oct 27, 2011 11:08 PM EDT reply actions 2 recs
Just what we need
Brook Lopez distracted all year by trade rumors, only to never get traded and then eave the Nets after feeling no loyalty.
Section 18, Row 7 at The Rock!
"Your 2010-2011 New Jersey Nets - It Is What It Is"
by eLonepb on Oct 28, 2011 12:30 AM EDT up reply actions 4 recs
Yep, just like that
I hope it doesn’t mess up his confidants or his views towards the Nets.
"Most people on this board are like a broken clock, Only right two times a day"
by Shameer1016 on Oct 28, 2011 10:01 AM EDT up reply actions
Yeah
I can’t wait for the “Offseason” to begin, Dwight can be gone as soon as the season starts. It’s so obvious he doesn’t want to be there anymore letting this drag on all season would only make the situation worse. At least the GM of the Jazz had some sense lol
Welcome to Nets City
the fact that you can make the case that we are the frontrunners makes it all the better.
I’m afraid in, say, three weeks, we will be a mighty long shot because we won’t have the cap space to sign him, and it will be clear management is going in a different direction. Sigh.
2010-2011 = acquire an All-Star via cap space as Thorn himself said
2011-2012 = make the playoffs without hindering future flexibility
2012 off-season = sign the second All-Star
2012-2013 = make a run for the championship
Mission accomplished thus far.
as big tom said
we will be out of the fight for dwight once we sign one player
My lil man.....can't tell me god don't exist.
by killa kadafi191 on Oct 28, 2011 10:33 AM EDT up reply actions
Not true at all.
We can make one big signing or trade as long as we ship out Petro, Farmar and amnsety Trouhouse.
by vincecarter4pres on Oct 28, 2011 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions
lets say we sign
Nene and Prince
Trading before the season starts the Nets can at least offer Orlando cap relief.
What trade can we do once we make our signings.
So what you are saying we need to trade petro and farmer to get back what???
My lil man.....can't tell me god don't exist.
by killa kadafi191 on Oct 28, 2011 2:28 PM EDT up reply actions
Depends on the amnesty clause
If you can hold onto it, we theoretically could amnesty Outlaw & trade guys like Farmar, Petro & Morrow away for cap space. Or perhaps we could bundle a guy that a team wants (e.g. Farmar or Morrow) with Outlaw for a more expensive amnesty casualty, e.g. Morrow+Outlaw for Baron Davis.
More or less what TheNetsFan just said.
As long as we amnesty Outlaw, send out Petro and Farmar for expirings or pure cap and make only one big signing and one signing period we will more or less keep max cap open in 2012 keeping the pressure on by giving Dwight and us leverage.
If the cap is set by past season’s BRI like it has been the last 7 years, it will go up again as well, probably somewhere around 60 to 61 million.
You can’t sign Prince though, or Crawful, or washed up Butler, etc.
You either sign one marque guy like Nene or Chandler or you trade for a stud wing like Gay or Granger or a lower tier guy like Iggy.
You then trade Farmar for a guy like Pietrus or CJ Miles.
Trade Petro and $3 million for a Nocioni, which specifically is a deal that works for both sides for a number of reasons.
Then absorb a dude like Jamison or Camby.
But there is a point to be made, that then we would have less actual pure cap this season as you alluded to and a team like Orlando is always going to prefer cap space to a guy like a Camby, Jamison or Nocioni on an expiring.
by vincecarter4pres on Oct 28, 2011 3:10 PM EDT up reply actions
The cap will go down
Over the course of the last CBA, the cap was set at 51% of BRI minus benefits divided by the number of teams (per Larry Coon’s CBA FAQ). Players were guaranteed 57% of BRI, so the fact that the cap was set at 51% minus benefits probably means this years cap will be around 46% of BRI (just my guess, assuming players get something between 51-52%).
Last year’s BRI was $3.817bil. I’m going to round to $3.9bil (a conservative 2% growth projection) for math. 46% of $3.9bil = $1.794bil. Larry Coon had benefits costs of $112mil in 2005-2006. For the sake of nice numbers, less assume $144mil in benefits. That leaves $1.65bil split among 30 teams, which would set the cap at $55mil per team.
What benefits?
As in pension and healthcare?
And you don’t have to assume anything, they’re already saying BRI was over 4 billion last year.
And what does the percent of the BRI that players get have to do with anything?
by vincecarter4pres on Oct 28, 2011 3:53 PM EDT up reply actions
There's no way in hell the players are agreeing to a decrease from 51% to 46% after they're going from 57% to say 51% as their actual salaries.
If you think that would be a sticking point, be prepared to miss the entire season cause that is what will happen.
Not only do you want them to get a huge chunk less of the profit, you want to make it exceptionally harder for players as a lone entity to get that money and the big time superstars to receive even less in max deals that are based on a percentage of the cap.
by vincecarter4pres on Oct 28, 2011 3:55 PM EDT up reply actions
The majority of the teams are over the cap
Because it’s a soft cap, the percentage of BRI that goes towards calculating the cap is less than their full cut. Their full cut was 57% in the last CBA, but the cap was set at 51% minus benefits (yes pensions, insurance, etc.). Players will still get the % of BRI they agree to. It’s just that the cap is set lower than the total percentage, because most teams go over the cap.
Additionally, in the last CBA, the luxury tax threshold was set at 61% of BRI. Based on that, I would assume the tax threshold would be around 56% of BRI minus benefits (approx. $68mil).
I'm not buying it, that's why there's escrow withheld.
Players aren’t going to agree to that. But again, that’s why I think there’s zero way this is resolved this weekend, it’s all smoke and mirrors and we’ll still be lucky to have a season period.
by vincecarter4pres on Oct 28, 2011 4:15 PM EDT up reply actions
BRI wasn't over $4bil last year
The audited number was $3.817bil. They’re assuming it will be about $4bil this year if the league mantains 4% annual growth.
Thanks for that and sorry, thought it was a touch over 4 billion.
Guess I was confusing it, that mustbe what they’re saying they expect this coming season.
I don’t see how they think BRI will increase again this season after the lockout though, they’ve pissed off a huge number of die hards and killed the interest of a lot of casual fans.
I would expect it to decrease, maybe dramatically for the 2012 off season.
by vincecarter4pres on Oct 28, 2011 4:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Doubt it
At least right away he isn’t going to resign. He wants to see what moves we make in free agency/trade and probably wants to see us winning games before he decides.
by dwill8brooklynbound on Oct 27, 2011 11:13 PM EDT up reply actions
no he is coming back right when the lockout ends
by RandyOreens on Oct 27, 2011 11:14 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh, LOL I thought you meant "return" as in resign with the Nets
Haha, of course he is coming back.
by dwill8brooklynbound on Oct 27, 2011 11:15 PM EDT up reply actions
"It’s moved to a very good place," one source briefed on Thursday’s 7½-hour bargaining session told Yahoo! "There’s a strong expectation [within the negotiations] that hands will shake [Friday]."
by soul driver on Oct 27, 2011 11:18 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm skeptical but
Hopefully they get it done.
When you have to shoot, shoot don't talk.
Deal will be done
By weekend.-NI
Nice
"Most people on this board are like a broken clock, Only right two times a day"
by Shameer1016 on Oct 27, 2011 11:23 PM EDT up reply actions
has anybody seen this? i dont know how to put a link here but if you type in "latest nba trade rumors" into google its the third one down i think
2011 NBA Trade Rumors – Anthony Morrow to Chicago Bulls?
October 26, 2011 05:25 PM EDT
Chicago ended its 2010-11 NBA season on a sour note, and that was after the team had a terrific regular season where they won more games than any other team, but the lack of scoring from anyone not named Derrick Rose cost the team and now they must find a player that can fill that void.
The league and its players are still in talks, but the fact remains, there may not be an NBA season this year, but that hasn’t slowed down trade speculation among true basketball fans. The latest rumor has the Chicago Bulls trading Carlos Boozer and is big money contract to New Jersey for Anthony Marrow and possible draft picks.
Boozer was not a big hit with the front office or fans last season, especially after his playoff performance, but he still offers whatever team he plays 17+ points and nearly 10 rebounds per game. His defense and nagging little injuries don’t sit well in a city like Chicago, and if the Bulls can deal him and get a shooting guard in return, their chances of improving the team goes up.
Marrow has averaged over 10 points per game for the last three seasons and can hit from the outside. Marrow has hit over 40 percent from three-point territory in his career and that would help Rose drive and dish and open the offense for other players.
This deal would also help the Nets keep Darren Williams and possibly lure big man Dwight Howard from Orlando, so the deal could make sense from several different angles as teams try to make the improvements needed for the 2011-12 NBA season.
It is kind of intriguing
Boozer and Dwill have very good chemistry, but would this take away too much of our cap space.
by dwill8brooklynbound on Oct 27, 2011 11:46 PM EDT up reply actions
and Boozer and Lopez would be scary bad on defense
by RandyOreens on Oct 27, 2011 11:54 PM EDT up reply actions
True
You know what, I probably would pass on this
by dwill8brooklynbound on Oct 27, 2011 11:56 PM EDT up reply actions
i was so frustrated watching Boozer on chicago
i wuldnt be able to imagine if he was on our team…
by blazin pp face on Oct 27, 2011 11:58 PM EDT up reply actions
This team hasn't played defense in years
and now people worry about that? Lol, We can barely score and we can barely defend. Take Boozer if there giving him away.
"Most people on this board are like a broken clock, Only right two times a day"
by Shameer1016 on Oct 28, 2011 12:30 AM EDT up reply actions
Is this from the RealGM T&T's Board?
There’s a guy on there who came up with almost the same trade and he always spells his name Marrow.
If it was say Morrow/Farmar/Petro/Houston pick for Boozer as a fallback plan if we strikeout in free agency, would have to give it some serious thought.
by vincecarter4pres on Oct 28, 2011 12:21 AM EDT up reply actions
Lol
I kinda agree with this. If we were to manage to swing dwight we wouldn’t have to worry about Boozers defense. Besides im sure Humphries isn’t going to ask too much money so we can have him coming off the bench for defense.
Welcome to Nets City
We could have an awesome starting 5
Deron
Graham
Outlaw
Boozer
Lopez
Pull the trigger Billy!
"This isn’t fantasy or rotisserie basketball. Why would Denver want Outlaw? Would you?" - Al Iannazzone
by strange-brew on Oct 28, 2011 12:51 AM EDT up reply actions
can't defend
can’t stay healthy. no thanks.
morrow
doesn’t make $15 mil a year. come on.
by shane gayle on Oct 28, 2011 11:07 AM EDT up reply actions
he's not
but i’m just not a fan of paying a guy like boozer 15 million a year for four more seasons. i mean, chicago fans wanting to get him out by trading for a barely-starter quality shooting guard should say enough about boozer’s worth.
by shane gayle on Oct 28, 2011 11:20 AM EDT up reply actions
personally
I’d rather pay Boozer 15M a year than give Nene 13-14M a year.
Even in a bad season, Booze still managed to average 17 & 9 (while shooting over .500 from the floor) on the team with the best record in the league, despite playing to a completely different type of PG he used to excel with over the past few years.
I think both he and Deron would love to play together again.
D-Will and Nene
I think is better. At least Nene can play 2 positions C-PF and is a little better in defense than Boozer
He will also play around 60 games as he has for his career
No thanks.
That’s like paying him $19m to play all 82.
by Jack Handy Jr on Oct 28, 2011 12:33 PM EDT up reply actions
It's intriguing.
Who’d you rather have? A big man that Deron is already comfortable with who would play alongside Dwight, or a wing player that Dwight himself is friends with and has said he’d like to play with.
I think it's fine.
by NetsMets4Life on Oct 28, 2011 7:02 AM EDT up reply actions
Bleacher Report?
"Rooting for the Yankees is like rooting for Steve Jobs to win the lotto." - Chris Rock
The NBA - Where 2012 doesn't happen
Patrick Ewing - The NBA's all-time leader in rushing yards
Boozer is a good player
However his salary may take us out of the Howard sweepstakes. I’m actually more intrigued by a Morrow for Gibson deal straight up. Shed a little salary, get a good, cheap PF that’s locked up past the Howard FA saga & eliminating the desperation of needing to overpay to land a PF like Hump, Nene or Chandler.
That being said, I’d probably take Boozer at his salary over Hump at $8mil.
WHAT
The season was supposed to start next week.
@Al_Iannazzone: BREAKING NEWS: Nets are close to acquiring Deron WIlliams from Utah, sources told The Record.
-Feburary 23, 10:54 am.
yes
"This isn’t fantasy or rotisserie basketball. Why would Denver want Outlaw? Would you?" - Al Iannazzone
by strange-brew on Oct 28, 2011 12:18 AM EDT up reply actions
wow
clutch
"This isn’t fantasy or rotisserie basketball. Why would Denver want Outlaw? Would you?" - Al Iannazzone
by strange-brew on Oct 28, 2011 12:23 AM EDT up reply actions
Haha damn, I wrote that seconds before Berkman blasted one!
by vincecarter4pres on Oct 28, 2011 12:25 AM EDT up reply actions
And Last season people told me I was crazy
when i said Berkman should have came back with the Yanks.
"Most people on this board are like a broken clock, Only right two times a day"
by Shameer1016 on Oct 28, 2011 12:31 AM EDT up reply actions
The Yankees are a bunch of filthy animals.
If we’re lucky Alex Rodriguez will lose his meniscus in a hand of hold em.
by vincecarter4pres on Oct 28, 2011 12:49 AM EDT up reply actions
A-Rod is still my guy lol
but that team needs some pitching and there set. CC might not even be a Yankee next season if he opts out.
"Most people on this board are like a broken clock, Only right two times a day"
CC might not even be a Yankee next season if he opts out.
One can only hope.
by vincecarter4pres on Oct 28, 2011 1:07 AM EDT up reply actions
-_- He leaves, were down for
"Most people on this board are like a broken clock, Only right two times a day"
by Shameer1016 on Oct 28, 2011 10:02 AM EDT up reply actions
Yes!!!
And i agree with that carlos boozer thing, playing next to Deron again makes him an all star!!!!
Welcome to Nets City
There it goes.....See Ya
"Most people on this board are like a broken clock, Only right two times a day"
WOW baseball!
MLB is really benefiting from this lockout I believe… disgruntled sports fans actually watching a league that works.
i think the WS still is suffering from pretty poor ratings
this is what happens when you hype up yankees/sox every freaking time they play like its the WS and give no one else spotlight until the playoffs
The realist keepin it real amongst the surrealists
R.I.P. Big Homey Nate Dogg: "Cuz Iiiiiiiiii have ne-evv-ver met a giiiiiiiiiirrrrrrllllllllllllllllllll tha-at I loved in the whole wide wooorrrlllllddddddd"
by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Oct 28, 2011 1:24 AM EDT up reply actions
this is why the NBA doesn't want parity
"Rooting for the Yankees is like rooting for Steve Jobs to win the lotto." - Chris Rock
The NBA - Where 2012 doesn't happen
Patrick Ewing - The NBA's all-time leader in rushing yards
The NBA could only hope to have what MLB does
Regardless of ratings, you are seeing an excellent parity in WS winners. It’s not the Yankees every year, and in fact, I think only 2-3 teams haven’t won a WS in the last 30 years or something.
Section 18, Row 7 at The Rock!
"Your 2010-2011 New Jersey Nets - It Is What It Is"
Regardless of ratings
The NBA will never disregard ratings
"Rooting for the Yankees is like rooting for Steve Jobs to win the lotto." - Chris Rock
The NBA - Where 2012 doesn't happen
Patrick Ewing - The NBA's all-time leader in rushing yards
by Taylor Made on Oct 28, 2011 10:23 AM EDT up reply actions
Money only gets you to the post season in a 162 game season.
Anyone can win in a 5-7 game series. Money isn’t so relevant there, unlike Basketball, where Superstars get you to the finish line.
no the mlb system is better, despite the lack of playoff teams
it gives more fans and teams hope throughout the entire season and their interest level remains moderately high. in late july the cardinals were dead in the water and the braves seemed a lock to take the NL wild card same for boston looking a lock and the rays being left out
now if only they can find someone other than Joe Buck to call the world series. I think he may be the biggest turnoff in sports besides tony siragusa
The realist keepin it real amongst the surrealists
R.I.P. Big Homey Nate Dogg: "Cuz Iiiiiiiiii have ne-evv-ver met a giiiiiiiiiirrrrrrllllllllllllllllllll tha-at I loved in the whole wide wooorrrlllllddddddd"
by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Oct 28, 2011 11:22 AM EDT up reply actions
That should be a separate topic later today.
Is it just me, or does Brook Lopez look as Soft as Toilet Paper (Even softer than the Tissue Paper Avery accused him of last year?)
Robin is clearly tougher than Brook.
Does DWill want Jamal Crawford (@JCrossover) as a teammate this season?
Deron Williams
“@CEO186: @DeronWilliams @JCrossover maybe future teamates” would be a whole lotta crossover in NJ if that happened
1 hour ago via Twitter for BlackBerry®
Crawford retweeted the following:
in reply to @DeronWilliams ↑
Emperor
@CEO186 Emperor
by JCrossover
@
@DeronWilliams @JCrossover LMAO I already know bra… Hang in there you gonna get some help in NJ I promise plus the fans got ya back
1 hour ago via Twitter for Android
Crawford also said playing next to Melo & Amare sounds good
LeBron hinted he would like to have him in Miami.
Would he take 3 yrs at 5 million (MLE)?
Would DWade become the PG for Miami?
Knicks need to use their MLE to get a true Center.
A lot of people like Crawford.
I think it's fine.
by NetsMets4Life on Oct 28, 2011 7:04 AM EDT up reply actions
at the right price, thats all that matters
Jamal is at that point where he can chase money on bad teams going nowhere or become a key piece for a reasonable price
The realist keepin it real amongst the surrealists
R.I.P. Big Homey Nate Dogg: "Cuz Iiiiiiiiii have ne-evv-ver met a giiiiiiiiiirrrrrrllllllllllllllllllll tha-at I loved in the whole wide wooorrrlllllddddddd"
by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Oct 28, 2011 11:24 AM EDT up reply actions
5hat's because a lot of people don't understand squat about basketball...
Jamal Crawful is a bucket of suck.
by vincecarter4pres on Oct 28, 2011 2:21 PM EDT up reply actions
"@DeronWilliams @JCrossover would be serious for the nets..."
Crawford retweeted that as well.
"I just copped me an all-things, a professional ball team
Tell me I ain't the illest hustler ya'll seen"
you see some of those tweets deleted?
"It's as sweet as it ever was, I'll tell you. Now, hopefully, we started something and we can win some more championships, but we're going to enjoy this one right now. Have a little champagne." --Julius Erving, May 12, 1976, ABA champion Nets locker room.
What do you mean? What was deleted?
"I just copped me an all-things, a professional ball team
Tell me I ain't the illest hustler ya'll seen"
NO NO NO NO NO NO NO!!!!!
But Kardashian’s mom Kris Jenner, who says the duo is going “two separate directions [with work],” says she’s confident that “they’ll figure it out as soon as they get back [to L.A.].”
Brook-Brooks-Brookyln
LET'S DO THIS!
No need to worry:
“It’s not ideal because you’re newlyweds and you want privacy,” she recently told PEOPLE, explaining the challenges of living with her new husband and sister Kourtney, her boyfriend Scott Disick and their son Mason while they filmed the second season of Kourtney and Kim Take New York.
They should buy a small house in NJ to have some privacy.
Don't forget that they don't know for sure where they will be living this season. That may be what Kris Jenner refers to "figure it out".
There would be way more stress if she had to live in Milwaukee or Indiana and commute to NY.
(hint – discount for BK to take Hump back).
I'm not sure how anyone read that differently?
All that meant was Kim is going to be in LA and NY while Kris is somewhere like Portland or Indiana…
by vincecarter4pres on Oct 28, 2011 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Bear Grylls looks like Brook
Brook-Brooks-Brookyln
LET'S DO THIS!
by OneCGuy on Oct 28, 2011 8:06 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
didn't look like anyone was trying particularly hard in that video
"I just copped me an all-things, a professional ball team
Tell me I ain't the illest hustler ya'll seen"
there were servicemen playing
there are only nine NBA players on that tour.
"It's as sweet as it ever was, I'll tell you. Now, hopefully, we started something and we can win some more championships, but we're going to enjoy this one right now. Have a little champagne." --Julius Erving, May 12, 1976, ABA champion Nets locker room.
He's a gunner
But he’d add some much needed “swag” around here, for the right price.
Section 18, Row 7 at The Rock!
"Your 2010-2011 New Jersey Nets - It Is What It Is"
if the new MLE
is 3 yrs / 5M per then by all means Jamal Crawford it is
Aren't he and Marshon basically the same except one is proven while the other isn't?
2010-2011 = acquire an All-Star via cap space as Thorn himself said
2011-2012 = make the playoffs without hindering future flexibility
2012 off-season = sign the second All-Star
2012-2013 = make a run for the championship
Mission accomplished thus far.
Kim K is apparently upset that Kris Humphries hasn't been doing any training during this lockout.
He’s been going out and partying with his friends instead. Is this the guy we want?
Not the guy I want.
Not sure why people love this dude so much, he was a straight up All NBA scrub 1st team until last year when he turned into just solid on an awful squad during the most important contract year of his career and life.
by vincecarter4pres on Oct 28, 2011 2:26 PM EDT up reply actions
here's an interesting point
reports this morning indicate that sign and trades and the MLE will ONLY be available to those teams below the luxury tax.
"It's as sweet as it ever was, I'll tell you. Now, hopefully, we started something and we can win some more championships, but we're going to enjoy this one right now. Have a little champagne." --Julius Erving, May 12, 1976, ABA champion Nets locker room.
Good news indeed!
I know they are both getting rich off this, and it brought notoriety, its just a shame that its a sham, where something supposedly “sacred” now like getting married, is a money making scheme…..
Kim Kardashian; can put lipstick on a pig…..
http://www.nypost.com/p/pagesix/kim_kardashian_courted_danilo_gallinari_WHNkKtKXwB02q7m0A9czlL
you know whats crazy
is that if your going out to dinner, why does it look like your (kris) running out to the corner store…
kim is flashy as usual… but cmon kris looks like, me on a saturday afternoon… lol to each its own …. did somebody say the lockout is over…
speaking before you think can have severe consequences, however doing it in reverse can have beautiful results!
Prokhorov was more influential in negotiations then originally thought
Kessler is a partner at Dewey & LeBoeuf, where he handles many kinds of complex litigation beyond sports and chairs the global litigation department. That work has taken him to Russia for a few days, a period that happens to coincide with Stern and Hunter remembering how to laugh.
The joke making the rounds is that politically connected Nets owner Mikhail Prokhorov ought to have Kessler detained there.
What’s not a joke, however, is that Kessler has been absent just two days, and for better or for worse, as far as the players are concerned, already there’s anticipation of the announcement NBA fans have been craving for four months.
http://espn.go.com/blog/truehoop/post/_/id/32927/three-reasons-for-the-new-mood
Prokhorov flies in for a day & then Kessler winds up in Russia MIA. Negotiations Russian style.
Prokhorov flies in for a day & then Kessler winds up in Russia MIA. Negotiations Russian style.
LMAO
"Most people on this board are like a broken clock, Only right two times a day"
by Shameer1016 on Oct 28, 2011 10:09 AM EDT up reply actions
Proky to Kessler: "Why don't you take a few days, stay at my place. You deserve it. We can handle this."
Dr. J~Super Buck~Draz~JKidd~Deron
Now that lock-out is almost over, we can start signing over-rated players to giant contracts!
Grin I’m looking forward to being a pessimistc Nets fan again.
Can’t wait to start next year with Jay Williams, Marcus Fizer and Juwan Howard on the roster.
Howard Beck: Some notes of caution on NBA labor talks: "very, very difficult system issues" still to be settled, source says, including luxury tax plan Read more: http://hoopshype.com/twitter/media.html#ixzz1c5VgCtTz
Howard Beck: Luxury tax is about 70 percent done, but last 30 percent is the tough part, same person says. Still a lot of work to do to get a dea
Read more: http://hoopshype.com/twitter/media.html#ixzz1c5VjSaT9
From last nights press conference...
David Stern and Billy Hunter started cracking smiles Thursday night.
Stern invaded Hunter’s news conference and literally yukked it up from the back row.
Hunter spied him there and called him out with a grin. Their back-and-forth included each proclaiming to the other, “Tomorrow!”
It’s the first time either side has been this jolly and the first time either side has declared a day as the day. Friday is the day, and no one’s afraid to say it.
I don't see it happening, but...
I’d really like to see a Thanksgiving weekend start to the season. Perhaps open with a marquee Thanksgiving night match-up on TNT & then a full schedule on Black Friday (while the wife shops).
The NFL owns Thanksgiving day & Sunday, but Black Friday could be a very nice kickoff day for the NBA.
Banking the amnesty clause?
It’s a concept that I’ve liked, but thought there was no way it would fly, apparently Holt is pushing for it.
http://espn.go.com/blog/truehoop/post/_/id/32935/more-flexible-amnesty-clause-on-way
Sources say that there’s a determined push led by San Antonio Spurs owner Peter Holt to allow teams to have at least two years to decide whether or not to amnesty one player, with multiple sources telling ESPN.com this week that they believe the concept — with restrictions that are still being haggled over — has indeed won sufficient support to be included in the new labor deal.
Six years ago, teams had only two weeks to decide whether to use the amnesty clause or lose it forever. Now? There is a growing likelihood that teams will be able to "save" their amnesty clause through next season, or perhaps beyond.
Some teams want to restrict amnesty eligibility to the players on a team’s roster when the lockout ends. Others want the freedom to use it on any player they acquire over, say, a three- or five-year span, arguing that there are teams out there which currently don’t have an ugly contract to shed but should have the right to atone for a future mistake.
This is starting to scare me
I think the whole intention of being able to defer the amnesty clause is to free up 2012 cap space while costing ownership less money to achieve that goal. There’s nobody worthy amnestying players for this year, so why not milk what value you can out of your bad contracts for another year & then amnesty a player in time for 2012 free agency. I think the ability to defer this will yield a lot more teams in the 2012 FA hunt.
The Spurs won’t have any cap space this year even if they do amnesty RJ, but they would next year, so why not keep RJ for another year, get some value for what you’d pay him this year & then amnesty him?
Dallas is in a similar situation. Amnestying Haywood or Marion this year provides them no immediate benefit, but it could give them cap space in 2012 after Kidd and Terry’s deals expire (even if they resign Chandler).
Orlando will probably wait until Howard is gone to amnesty Arenas or Turkoglu since they can’t upgrade the roster even if they did amnesty them.
NOPE
@WindhorstESPN: Source said talks snagged when players wouldn’t accept less than 52% of BRI. No talks scheduled. More cancellations today
I think it's fine.
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Labor talks have indeed ended. Chris Paul told Bloomberg News on way to car, “We just couldn’t reach an agreement.”
I think it's fine.
by NetsMets4Life on Oct 28, 2011 4:47 PM EDT up reply actions
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Another source says BRI was only “partly” of breakdown in talks.
I think it's fine.
by NetsMets4Life on Oct 28, 2011 4:52 PM EDT up reply actions
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