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NetsDaily Off-Season Report #21

Unless Carmelo Anthony suddenly appears, the Nets roster is semi-complete, the off-season is pretty much done. There are 12 players with fully guaranteed deals, three others with partials, and Billy King has said the training camp invites (still unnamed) will be given "a shot" at making the team. It's been a slow week and people are on vacation.  We take an optimistic and a pessimistic look at what's happened this off-season and ask you put yourself on the line...or somewhere along it, examine the dramatic improvement at PF, applaud Jordan Farmar on his latest good works, continue our Prokhorov Money Watch and investigate whether he was a dancer in the "Worst Music Video Ever".

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Every Sunday, we’ll be updating the Nets’ off-season with bits and pieces of information, gossip, etc. to help take the edge off missing the playoffs, relying on the Nets’ beat reporters and others who have slipped interesting stuff into larger stories and blogs...not to mention our own reporting.

"It Was the Worst of Times, It Was the Best of Times"

That's the opening line of "A Tale of Two Cities"...very appropriate, we think. So We decided to do a little poll: asking fans, both optimist and pessimist, to take a look back at the off-season as it nears its close.

For the optimist:

--It's All New!!

--We have a great new owner who's so rich he doesn't know where his $45 million yacht is docked! WOW!

--Brooklyn is underway finally. Jay-Z rules!

--We hired the coach with the winningest record in NBA history...a real coach!!

--We got two great first round picks in the draft, one who may very well fill our biggest need for a decade, the other who could be the steal of the draft!!  Yeah Baby!

--Our owner kicked in $3 million just to clear cap space for free agency and nearly $200,000 for partially guaranteed deals, a first!!

--We didn't overspend on free agents. We got seven young, athletic players who are looking for an opportunity...and paid out less money for seven players ($69.2 million) than the Bulls paid for one, Carlos Boozer ($75 million). Really so smart!

--We signed a solid general manager and bolstered our assistant coaching, our scouting, our player development and our training staffs. Finally, the Ratner Era is behind us!!

--We traded for a power forward to help Derrick Favors with his development. Great move, Billy!  You're here three weeks and you solve our biggest problem!! 

--We're getting Melo. Yay!!!

For the pessimist:

--Same old Nets.

--They have an absentee owner who'll show up for 10 games and is more interested in his image than the team.  He's like Ratner, only richer taller and Russian.

--They're leaving New Jersey and they may even change the team name. Why, why, why?

--They hired a coach who so grated on his veterans that four of them told Mark Cuban they'd rather be traded than play for him again. He can't win the big ones.  And that voice...on 82 pre-game and 82 post-game shows.  You got to be kidding.

--They lost the lottery, took the second best big man in the draft and traded two picks for one just to move up three places? Unlucky and risk-averse, a bad combination.

--They wasted money to get under the cap and now we know they never had a chance for any of the big free agents.  Typical. Sad.

--They overpaid Travis Outlaw ($35 million) and Johan Petro ($10 million) and oh yeah, why did the Warriors let Anthony Morrow go so easily? Hmmm. Something's up there.

--They lost Rod Thorn and signed a general manager who was unceremoniously fired by Philly in mid-season after a series of high profile moves failed. He signed old pals to those key jobs you're talking about. Minus move.

--They traded away cap space for a one-year rental. Troy Murphy is 30 years old, slow and can't defend. (At least he's from New Jersey).

--They're getting Melo. Drat.

Where do you come down?

Four or more at the four

One thing is for sure, whether you're an optimist or a pessimist: the Nets situation at power forward is as good as it's been since Kenyon Martin manned it in 2003-04.  As Dave D'Alessandro wrote after the trade for Troy Murphy, the New Jersey native may be the Nets biggest stat stuffer at the four since Derrick Coleman.  We're going to be interested to see how big of a role Avery Johnson will give Murphy in the Nets' offense, considering how much he featured a big, three point shooting, defensive rebound grabbing, pick and rolling big man in Dallas. 

Beyond Murphy, of course, there's Derrick Favors who Nets front office personnel have compared to Amare Stoudemire, Chris Bosh, Dwight Howard and Kevin Garnett.  Favors will be both the youngest player in the NBA and the youngest player in Nets history when he steps on the court in October.  Who know when he will be ready--we suspect earlier than most (and we also suspect the Nets will use him to back up Brook Lopez at times during the season).

There there's what we think are two very interesting possibilities: Kris Humphries and Sean May, both of whom have been career disappointments after being taken in the lottery, Hump at #14, May at #13.  Both are still young, 25 and 26, and could get minutes when their skill sets fit situations.  Humphries we know can use his athleticism and May his girth.  We haven't heard much from Humphries this off-season, but May has filled his twitter page with reports of hard training and optimistic pronouncements about the Nets.  May of course still have to make the team. 

Finally, both Travis Outlaw, Johan Petro and Damion James can (and have) played the four.  Outlaw in fact has done better offensively when playing at power forward while James, who people tend to forget is a very strong 6'8", played PF throughout his four years at Texas. Petro started some games in Seattle at PF and says he's prepared to play next to Lopez if needed.   Their coach would prefer to use them at the three (and maybe even the two if James can improve his ball-handling) and in Petro's case, at the five.  And if you missed Johnson's comparables for Outlaw and James, they are: Josh Howard for Outlaw and James Posey or Robert Horry (!!) for James. We haven't heard a comparable for Petro.

Over the past three years, the Nets had had to live with power forwards like Jason Collins, Sean Williams, Malik Allen, Josh Boone, Yi Jianlian and Eddie Najera.  This is better.  Also, an objective look at the current roster should tell you something else: even without a Carmelo Anthony blockbuster, one or more of these guys will not be playing in Newark this season.

Prokhorov Money Watch

A major real estate project is stalled. Its owner, one of the city's biggest developers, is starved of cash because of the economic crisis. The project's centerpiece, an public hall for concerts and other events, looks like it will never be built.

Enter Mikhail Prokhorov who brings his enormous resources to the project and suddenly things turn around.

Sound familiar?  Yep, except we're talking about Moscow, not Brooklyn, and it's a concert hall not a basketball arena. Prokhorov is paying between $100 and $140 million to take control of the "Moscow City" concert hall, which will seat 1,500 people.  It's a huge real estate venture at a bend in the Moscow River. We wonder if he's talking to Bruce Ratner about this project as well.

We're also trying to think of a way Mikhail Prokhorov can tie the December launch of his still unnamed hybrid car with the October launch of his NBA team.  In December, Prokhorov will unveil his hybrid, nicknamed the "Prokhomobile".  Don't think of calling it the "Netmobile".  In Russian, Net transliterates into "Nyet" and a "Nyet-mobile" wouldn't sell too well in Russia, we figure.

As for the Nets, Prokhorov may wind up sacrificing some revenue with of the team's trip to London in March.  Since both games are home games, the Nets will lose some revenue but hope to gain greater name recognition in Europe, part of the plan to make the Nets a global brand. The league will give the Nets an undisclosed financial guarantee to make up for those losses.  Whether it will match what the team would typically make is uncertain.

No it's not him

A couple of fans have asked if the tall dancer in this Swedish music video is Mikhail Prokhorov.  We were trying to figure out whether it would enhance or detract from his image as the "most interesting man in the world" when we realized the video from 1978. Prokhorov was 13 years old and the dancer is older than than..

Farmar's Good Works

Jordan Farmar's Hoops Farm is now long over, but its good works continue on.  Last week, thre was a story on local LA television about Andre Brown, a homeless boy who Farmar sponsored at his camp and how much it meant to him.  This week, there was a story about a boy named Lakes who has a place to stay but no family.  Wednesday's Child, a feature on children seeking adoption, told the story of Lakes, a quiet kid looking for a family.  Lakes too was sponsored by Farmar and like Andre was shown playing hoops with Farmar.  The Nets guard understands the value of celebrity in making good things happen.  No word on whether Lakes has found a family to take him in.

Ratner Lucky?

Evan Weiner, writing for New Jersey Newsroom, called Bruce Ratner "lucky" this week.  Why?  Well, other than having a Russian angel bearing gifts, the Nets appear to have gotten the last big naming rights deal.  The Giants and Jets, who had hoped for a long-term billion dollar naming rights deal, have none. Instead, it's the New Meadowlands Stadium.   The Cowboys don't have one either, despite all its marvels. 

The total value of the Barclays deal has never been made public.  The entity that controls the arena--now owned 55% by Ratner and 45% by Prokhorov-- will ultimately get $200 million from Barclays over 20 years, but Brett Yormark has said the team also gets some money from Barclays as part of the overall package.  Originally, the deal was supposed to yield $400 million (although that number was never officially confirmed).  It went through several revisions as delays mounted.  Under terms of the agreement, Barclays doesn't start paying until the arena opens.

Final Note

With training camp only 19 days away and the first preseason game at "The Rock" only nine days after that, expect to see more promotion on the Nets' move to Newark.  We've already seen the Nets emphasize the mass transit possibilities of their new digs.  There will be more. The Nets put single game seats on sale September 23, which is also the day before training camp opens with Media Day. Sounds about right.

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you're right

I’m just anxious, with all the anticipation and excitement, I feel like a kid waiting for Christmas.

by aunt-B on Sep 4, 2010 6:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

same same...

cant wait for preseason, and training camp videos to be up.

by danxcr on Sep 4, 2010 10:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Funny you Mention Jay -Z he should remake that

that verse in" Empire State of Mind" If jeezy paying Lebron Im paying Dwyane Wade" he should just say Im paying Carmelo. Kelly Dwyer wrote a pretty good article on Carmelo in which he puts out as trade proposal by the Nets involving Terrence Williams and Troy Murphy for Carmelo and if Derrick Favors pans out that could be a very good team.
Lopez/Petro
Favors/James/Hump
Carmelo/Outlaw
Ross/Morrow/Camp Invite
Harris/Farmar
Looks like a team if hits full potential could be dangerous and scary team like Dwyer points out.

by JJ25 on Sep 4, 2010 6:04 PM EDT reply actions  

You believing and what it is is two different things

The line is “If Jeezy’s paying LeBron, I’m paying Dwyane Wade.” Jeezy had wrote a song in which he mentions Kobe and Lebron if you want to know more about it do some research I don’t think I could post the meaning of the song on this site.

by JJ25 on Sep 5, 2010 10:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

http://www.lyrics.com/empire-state-of-mind-lyrics-jay-z.html
http://www.metrolyrics.com/empire-state-of-mind-lyrics-jayz.html
 
These are just two websites that say “Jesus.” There were 10 others that had the line as “Jesus” also, only one site had the line as “Jeezy”

And in the Jeezy song he mentions “playing” Kobe and LeBron, not “paying”
http://lyrics.url.com/show/5243/young-jeezy/24-23-kobe-lebron-lyrics

Consequences will never be the same.

by NetsMets4Life on Sep 5, 2010 11:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

It's not Jesus dude

It’s well known he’s referring to the price of a kilo of cocaine.

It started with a Young Jeezy song called “24, 23” where he says “I used to pay Kobe ($24,000) now I pay Lebron ($23,000)”.

Those lyrics sites often have the very worst transcribing of lyrics I’ve ever seen.

by eLonepb on Sep 5, 2010 11:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

Well then, I guess if you are sure of it, I'll take your word.

Im not looking up lyrics anymore. And all my friends are wrong.
Maybe they should just pronounce words easier in songs. That would help everyone.

Consequences will never be the same.

by NetsMets4Life on Sep 5, 2010 11:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

I don't know why

 you were looking up the lyrics I wrote Jeezy Im not going to write something that not right. Here a site for you won’t have any doubts.
www.theawl.com/…/a-common-misunderstanding-of-the-lyrics-of-jay-zs-empire-state-of-mind

by JJ25 on Sep 5, 2010 12:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's Jeezy

It’s all a whole cocaine reference.

http://www.netsarescorching.com

by Newark2Brooklyn on Sep 5, 2010 11:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

This is a big camp!

This is a big camp for several players, as AJ’s rotations are not completely set in stone. What do we know: The starting 4 are: Brook, Murph, Devin, Outlaw. The fifth starter will either be Morrow or TWILL, I would prefer to have it be Morrow, because he can shoot. Either way, both Morrow and TWILL will average over twenty minutes a game. THEN WHO? Well Farmar is the seventh man, with Favors a close eighth. With Devin, Farmar, TWILL and Morrow, that’s it for guards in the rotation. Up front…Favor’s gets minutes both behind Murph and maybe even Brook against certain teams. But really, if DJAMES impresses in camp, he will get some minutes behind OUTLAW, or maybe TWILL will also play some 3. The time splits at the 3 are anyone’s guess for now. SO…who else plays? PETRO? HUMPH? SEANMAY? ZOUBECK? If there is really to be a backup 5, who that turns out to be is really up in the air. PETRO is getting paid the most money, so he will get a good long look. We know what THE HUMPH brings, the good and the bad. Sean May? Players on their “last chance” sometime wake up and smell the coffee, or they learn to speak HEBREW. Of the four bigs without places, I like Sean and ZOUBECK the most. I think it will be a spirited camp. Too bad THE NETS won’t be getting HARD KNOCKS coverage, I’d love to hear AJ during practices. It’s still a month till exhibition games, back thankfully, my JETS AND GIANTS open up next week. GO NEW JERSEY TEAMS!

Paul from Delray Beach

by PaulErstein on Sep 4, 2010 6:33 PM EDT reply actions  

Some observations about your report

“They have an absentee owner who’ll show up for 10 games and is more interested in his image than the team. He’s like Ratner, only richer taller and Russian.”

That doesn’t bode well for us.

“We lost Thorn”

We just didn’t lose him to something like retirement. We lost him to Philly. Do you think thats tied to your impression of Ratner?

Anyway the offseason has been a plus overall imo but alot of the positives you have to give credit to Thorn for and he’s gone. I’m worried about how much Thorn cared after he knew he was leaving for another job and still made critical decisions for us.

by msm2 on Sep 4, 2010 6:38 PM EDT reply actions  

you completely missed the point

of the whole optimist/pessimist exercise.

by Net Income on Sep 4, 2010 10:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Great read as usual NI

There are always 2 sides to a story. And in ours depending on how you look at it can be both. But for most of us that sat through last season (if we can even call that), anything can be better than last year. Seriously, if we have a worst season than last, i might jump off the brooklyn bridge.

Whos with me?

by danxcr on Sep 4, 2010 10:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

That video ROCKED!

absolutely the high point of the off-season….. and it WAS Proky!

by Oligarch on Sep 4, 2010 8:30 PM EDT reply actions  

Eh.

I dont think its him.

Consequences will never be the same.

by NetsMets4Life on Sep 4, 2010 10:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

No.

That guy was several inches shorter than Proky.

Proky would get a kick though, if he saw it.

by jerry25 on Sep 5, 2010 12:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

your "pessimistic" view

happened to be right on the money as far as this team is concerned. of course in your ultimate wisdom, you wrote with the sole purpose of another back-handed insult towards the intelligent and loyal fans of the NEW JERSEY Nets. Your work for them, you have absolutely zero credibility, let’s leave it at that.

by IsaacNJN on Sep 4, 2010 11:57 PM EDT reply actions  

Despite your opinions on NI's opinions

He has done an amazing job aggregating news for hungry fans like you and me and making sure we stay informed on Net-land for years.

Your attack on his credibility is unwarranted. Let’s see you try and make a website that is as thorough and popular as this one.

When the big fella was whistled for his fourth personal foul midway through the third quarter, Stan Van Gundy left Clark Kent alone. And in a phone booth measuring 94 feet across, Dwight Howard used that vote of confidence to transform into his alter ego. - Chris Sheridan

by thermodynamic on Sep 5, 2010 1:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

if you continue to suggest

that I or anyone here is paid by the Nets ownership, you will have less to say here.

by Net Income on Sep 5, 2010 3:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

The All New Nets HAVE been advertising regularly on NBATV, and they have added some of the ALL New players - Favors, DJames, Murphy and Outlaw, I believe.

I think when you sign up with NBATV, you have to agree to so many thousands of commercials.

Even David Stern has commented that NBATV has too many commercials.

by jerry25 on Sep 5, 2010 12:13 AM EDT reply actions  

"Sean Williams, the NBA's favorite son, is headed to Israel"

Nice job, but you forgot about Sean Williams. The subject line is from a report of three days ago.
  
Sean Williams in Israel? If he’’s a success, maybe we can nickname him “The Peacemaker.”

Texas slang in a Big Apple minute, by a friendly OED consultant. http://www.barrypopik.com

by barrypopik on Sep 5, 2010 2:31 AM EDT reply actions  

thanks for your pessimist view...

at least it will neutralizes my excitement and expectations on this team.. but no matter what, i’m still a nets fan..

nice read… can’t wait for the pre-season to start..

by njason21 on Sep 5, 2010 6:39 AM EDT reply actions  

—We didn’t overspend on free agents. We got seven young, athletic players who are looking for an opportunity…and paid out less money for seven players ($69.2 million) than the Bulls paid for one, Carlos Boozer ($75 million). Really so smart!

Exactly. All of this talk about the Nets giving out horrible deals is a bunch of hot air

"No one stands on the top of the world. Not you, not me, not even gods. But the unbearable vacancy of the throne in the sky is over. From now on...I will be sitting on it."

by MrDollarBills on Sep 5, 2010 8:48 AM EDT reply actions  

Yes they have a pretty solid team to compete for 6-8 and have a chance to get another player through Free Agency or Trade because they didn't overpay any players

The Nets have never been a succesful team through Free Agency (getting a big name player),if if they make the playoffs the odds of getting a Superstar talent through draft are slim and that leaves a superstar through trade which the Nets have been Succesful at. Even if this team developes into full potential they still don’t have what it takes to get past top teams.
Lopez/Petro
Murphy/Favors/Humpries
Outlaw/James
Williams/Morrow/Ross
Harris/Farmar

by JJ25 on Sep 5, 2010 10:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

HoopsHype thinks Morrow most likely to breakout
Most Likely to Breakout: Anthony Morrow

Last season, Anthony Morrow’s minutes were constantly in flux and his role changed throughout the year. While it’s tough to gage out players will produce after leaving the trigger happy Warriors, Morrow is one of the players poised to take the next step and improve from his days in Golden State. With a starting role all but won and a clearly defined role in place, Morrow has been expanding his game and could emerge as more than just a sharpshooter in New Jersey.

http://www.hoopsworld.com/Story.asp?story_id=17246

by eLonepb on Sep 5, 2010 10:58 AM EDT reply actions  

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