Kerber: Lopez "Lone Untouchable" in 'Melo Trade Talks

Common sense. Duh.

But I think that giving them both harris AND favors is pushing it.

Either way…we’re set with who we have now. I’m awaiting training camp.

The question is, can Sean May beat out the Hump? That should be interesting.

Can a T-Will/Harris backcourt work? Or do we start Morrow, take a hit defensively at the two, and then come off of the bench with a killer Farmar/Williams/James/Favors unit?

Our second unit is going to cause problems for the opposition. The closer we get to camp, the more excited I get about these kids.

Can Uzoh and Zoubek make the team?

It means that creating a winning team with solid pieces is just as important for upper management as selling tickets, jerseys, etc.

I think that’s what we all hoped would be the case, and if this report is true, it confirms that.

carmelo trade makes sense if we had john wall….

unfortunately we dont…

harris AND favors is too much

the Nets won’t trade Lopez- it had been reported already (Jon Rothstein).

the Nets have pieces that could appeal the Nuggets- it had been reported already (Woj).

the Nuggets don’t want to trade Anthony to begin with- it had been reported already (Stein).

why bother writing an article like this?

bottom line, the Nuggets don’t seem to want to trade Carmelo, and that makes me really happy, They can keep their bogus superstar for all I care. Hopefully we can give this nonsense a rest and care about OUR team and players.

I’m not calling Melo or CP3 drugs, but like drugs, sometimes they are just instant highs, but don’t take care of the problem fully. Or worse those drugs leave you worse off than when you began.

Let’s build our core and make smart additions that don’t take away from that.

Nets did a pretty good job in the offseason, acquiring some useful players. We dont have any throw-in players to make salaries work because both Harris and Murphy could be very important to this team.

After the season we can resign Murphy and have enough cap space to sign or trade for a player. And most importantly keep our assets.

Trading for Melo would be very bad for this team.

Anyone else think Melo is just pissed Denver is only offering three years? I don’t think there is any reason why they could not offer a six year max. Denver offers Joe Johnson money and he signs immediately to avoid the CBA fear and secure his bank account forever.

If Favors will become Dwight Howard as N.I. as reported that his sources within the Nets have told him, then why include him in a trade for Anthony. Howard is better than Favors, so then logical substitution dictates the Nets think Favors will be better than Anthony.

Anyway, just a thought.

Still hope, when it all boils down to it, it’s Harris, TWill, Humphries, picks.

I meant “Howard is better than Anthony” so if Favors will develop into Howard, Favors will be better than Anothony…so why include him in a trade for Anthony?

Unless they are in win now mode and can’t afford to wait for Favors to develop into Howard.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aYfZT3sVUkY

…I be looking down my shirt all the time, not looking where I’m going. Probably a bad idea.

Kobe Lebron Durant Wade Dwight Deron.

What else does melo do other than score???

I just can not wait for the season start and wer move on from all this what ifs and maybes and focus on the team we currently have at the moment.

Before the draft everyone was saying how we shouldn’t bother with Cousins.

That Favors would be KG and Dwight but now all of sudden to get a player that only is know for scoring and doesn’t get out of the first round . People ready to ship him off.

That has maturity issues on and off the court.

We could be giving away a piece that has us with a future twin towers.

As Dollar Bills has already said the one weakness that Miami has is their front court.

Now I don’t see us becoming a threat anytime soon. That’s with or without Melo but in 3 or 4 years. Our Front Court could be something similar to the Spurs.

Add melo without having to give up lopez and your in the conversation with the East. That’s my opinion. Sure, not a finished product but a very good start, and Avery makes me a bit more confident of that

Have made Evans and Cousins untouchable.

Why is Favors available then?

If you add Melo to Brook we are a playoff team but not among the best in the East.

We would still lose to the likes of Orlando, Miami, Boston and even the Bulls.

We would be a playoff team with a go to scorer that’s it.

I seen those results before and I have not been impressed none the least.

Denver Nuggets of the east how far has that got that team right there,

Only advancing out the first round once since Melo has been there.

Dollar has said it. Miami weakness is their front court.

What good would be Melo 30 points a game against a team like Lebron Wade and Bosh???

The possibilities that Brook and Favors could bring should make anyone excited.

Let’s look at it like this we have been there all before and as Jerry Sloan said. When players are young they want to make money when they get older they want rings.

Now we seen this with Kidd. A player who stays but as we failed to win he demanded a trade. I see something similar happening with Melo if he is acquire by trade.

Miami isn’t going any where.

Two of the best players in the league in their prime.

How do you feel Melo will feel when he keeps hearing how his peers are winning and he is still losing in the playoffs?

We seen it before from other players. Who demand a trade.

All Melo does is score and that’s not impressive to me because I seen teams who had dominate scorers and lose.

Then I seen teams built to win and right succeed. who were not caught up with flashy names, jersey sells, sold out arenas,tv ratings and dollar signs,

They were only worried about were they playing in May and June. Not what the totally revenue they receive in may and june.

…Lopez is not going anywhere !

NETS BABY!

Let’s say we keep our mediocre team now, manage to get to 30 mins, and miss the playoffs. Or even manage to somehow get the 8th seed.

Now what? Keep playing that mediocre ball every year until we get better?

I want to know exactly who is goign to be the Dwayne Wade, the Lebron, the final go-to scorer that we don’t have now. It could be someone in free agency in a few years, that’s fine, but we have a 5 year plan.

So who is that go-to dominant scorer going to be? It’s obviously nobody on this team, so I want to know.

Let’s be honest.

The Heat are not going any where.

The Spurs didn’t have a go to scorer nor did the Pistons.

I feel we are building the same way. We are building the same.

My question we get Melo then what. We are the Denver Nuggets of the East.

How far did Kobe and them get when he was scoring 30 plus in the playoffs without help?

T-mac?
Iverson?

Should I go on? 30 plus scorers do not impress me. If we were talking about Durant Lebron or Wade I would have no problem but this is melo.

This isn’t a leader on the floor. This isn’t someone who brings it every night on both end of the court.

This is someone who is only known for scoring.

The Heat Orlando Boston and other would still beat us with Melo and Brook.

As Dollar said we are rebuilding. I rather us build and in four years we can beat the Heat by exposing their front court weakness.

Instead of getting Melo and then we are crying we need a player who will rebound,defend the paint and help brook out inside.

HAHAHAHAHAHA We had someone who possibly could be that.

Lakers have always been able to attract players they are LA but they did not start attracting major players until Gasol.

That’s when you heard about the Ron Artest, the Barnes and Steve Blake.

Funny you mention the Lakers.

They were offer a deal Jason Kidd (a proven all star.) for a player who was unknown but had potential. Bynum. The Lakers turn that deal down and how has that work for them so far???

Having two big men. Pau and Favors.

See how important two good big men are??

How did Pau and Kobe do in the Finals??

2004.

proving that two big men as the spurs had were key to their success

Is you need superstars to win it.

MJ
Magic
Bird
Hakeem
Duncan
Kobe
Shaq

Position is irrelevant, Superstar player is

Now if u dont think Melo is a superstar, then thats a different topic…

just wanted to say that, everyone is making good points for both sides of the argument. And we’re being civil to each other. See, we can do it!!!!

Besides Brook, I don’t want to see Devin or Favors sent away either. If MELO was 26 instead of 30+, then it would be different. How many years does MELO have left at the top of his game, 2 or 3? Then it is down the road of decline. Shooters and guards can last into their mid 30’s, and Centers too. But not forwards, as great as he once was, look at whatt KG has done the last two seasons…I just don’t want to trade away Favors until we know more about who he will be. He’s 19 for G-d’s sake.

DId you guys read the hoopshype article….37 wins? If we get 37 wins this year, I would kiss my ex-mother in law, full, on the lips. AND she’s been dead for years, but I know where she is…it ryhmes with “well”…..

http://hoopshype.com/previews/2010_11/new_jersey.htm

thank god lopez is untouchable. trading lopez for melo straight up doesnt make us better

then be a permanent 40-45 win team and nothing but play-off fodder for the Orlando’s and Miami’s of the east, which is about what we’d be if we moved a big package for Carmelo.

I still wouldn’t give any key pieces for Melo.

like i said….
if the starting lineup can be
devin
whoever
melo
favors
brook

the only players that i want to see go out for him is twill, james, and hump

I’d really like to see the results, since it seems like more people are joining the “NO MELO” campaign Andres and I started when these rumors first started… Other SBNation sites have polls all the time.

  Just kidding we are not in Philly. Yes I like Avery . But before Dallas he was a man who believes in Robinson ,Duncan, Horry, combination all big and can defend. most important control rebounds and block shots and also can score . With Dallas his defense is somehow like the old saying “a good offense is a good defense”. I think I heard this from Don Nelson. Dallas scored and rebound enough to win.
    I am a great fan of Don Nelson since the time he played with Boston with Russell as the key man specially in defense. He provided enough offense for Celtics and was also tough enough to defend.
     Anyway Avery is not really my choice as a coach , but he is a gazillion times better than the one coaching the last 5 years. I know he has a good feel for the game and can make the right adjustment, ala Popovioch style.

I don’t care what Kerber says- unless Lopez is Kobe, he is NOT untouchable.

And now people are willing to trade the just-drafted “solid prospect” D.Favors.. Solid players always developed from solid prospects. There’s no jumping levels of play in the NBA. Trade Anthony for him and those same people will keep saying these lines in the future: “WTF! Another early round exit! WE HAVE NO DAMN PF! DRAFT ONE RIGHT NOW!”

On another note: Give the kid a break people. Yes, he is unproven. Why? Because the season did not start YET. Give him a year or 2 to play. It’s so unfair to say he ain’t worth it.

http://insider.espn.go.com/nba/insider/news/story?id=5439653&action=login&appRedirect=http://insider.espn.go.com/nba/insider/news/story%3fid%3d5439653

Melo is an elite level scoring level talent. It’s foolish to say that he isn’t anything but that.

But the Nets IMO would be giving up more than any other team in a potential deal if it includes any part of ‘BroFave", so no. Plus, Melo does not defend, rebound at a solid rate, and cannot create for others so the price is way too high if we have to give up Harris, Favors, AND picks. That’s absolute lunacy. You do NOT win in the NBA with perimeter scoring alone. The Nets were TOP HEAVY on the perimeter for a decent period of time and we got our asses kicked. Why? Our frontcourt was garbage. Lets try it the other way around now.

I’m fine with being patient and continuing to add talent via the draft and watching the progress of this young team, and seeing what happens. We weren’t rash this summer, improved our team, and ended up addressing our PF situation with a solid veteran who is deadly from three and cleans the glass, and adding a potential young stud PF in Favors. I want to see what we have with Williams and James as well.

Stay the bleeping course.