Can Outlaw Come Back From Injury?
by Net Income on Sep 13, 2010 7:51 AM EDT
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PrintThe Nets certainly think so. They've agreed to pay Travis Outlaw $7 million a year over the next five. So does Hoop Daily, part of NBADraft.net. Sam Littman notes that while the NBA retired its Comeback Player of the Year Award in 1986, that didn't stop writers from drafting lists of potential comebacks and he puts Outlaw high on his list.
Outlaw suffered a stress fracture in his left foot in the early last season. Then the Trail Blazers traded him to the Clippers. He played only 34 games the entire season. Although he didn't look fully recovered in LA, Outlaw says he's fine now.
Good, since Littman writes, "he'll finally have the security of a starting job...the Nets aren't paying him $35 million not to start him."
In the two years before he got hurt, Outlaw played in all but one game, averaging 13.4 points, 4.3 rebounds and shot 38.3% from deep, almost all of it coming off the bench.
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hoopshype.com
has this guy at $7 million/year for four years… is this a mistake or is his contract only for 4 years? no mention of a team/player option or QA
they're typically reliable...
at least when it comes to the numbers…
either way, outlaw has a long struggle to prove that he is worth that contract…. especially since coming of an injury-plagued season…. and 34 games?? yikes.
HoopsHype has Knicks future salaries screwed up, but HoopsHype often updates immediately, but doesn’t have enough details.
ShamSports is hard to follow the legends, and they do have a small error in DJames salary, but I just noticed that they do list Jarvis Hayes’ cap hold as $2.68 million (not $2.9 million as you mentioned). I don’t understand their 2011-2012 cap holds?
Storytellers of course is most convenient, to see all teams at once, but is only updated periodically (last 9/1/10).
I wounder… why five years
"I want to win, I want the team to win and I'm in complete control."
-Coach Avery Johnson.
If Avery is correct, that Outlaw was the 3rd best SF available, behind LeBron and RGay, then he didn't overpay.
Not having fully recovered from stress fracture as of last year, should have decreased his price tag though. There is some risk.
However, Nets may have paid a premium to not get beat out by another team, but as long as he gets starter minutes, those extra two years in his prime should not be overpaying – salary doesn’t increase like most contracts.
Of course if DJames pans out, as I expect, that could be a pleasant problem. But then Outlaw has better numbers playing at PF, though Avery would prefer him at SF.
I still hope that if Nets can get Melo, that Outlaw goes to Nuggets. Currently, Nuggets fans have doubts about Outlaw.
Nugget fans better hope they end up with something, the ways things are going...
The longer that situation goes on, the less Nuggets and their fans will get for Carmelo.
Not necessarily, as there are 29 teams that would like Melo either today as will as for a Christmas present.
However many teams would already be eliminated, for practical purposes, either by Denver or by Melo.
Most recent elimination is Chicago, but some in the media haven’t read the details which have been posted.
As I have written, because there is only one Favors level player, Nets have the advantage and ability to get Denver to wait, if Melo doesn’t screw things up by his impatience/immaturity
The Nets are not going to include Favors in a trade for Anthony...
The only way they do that is if they feel Favors will not become a star or if Proky demands the trade. Otherwise it makes no sense to trade a future star PF for a seven years older star SF. By the time Anthony is 32 Favors will be 24.
Nets would surely dangle Favors name to Nuggets and get them to wait until December.
Proky apparently was prepared to get Dirk this summer, so he must want to win sooner than later.
Getting Melo for Favors is consistent with that philosophy.
If by December, Nets like Favors too much, then deal is off and then consider TWill/DJames.
I doubt if Nuggets would go for TWill/DJames at this time.
Fair enough? Its just too soon to know what talent Nets have. If they can get Nuggets to wait closer to Christmas, everyone will feel better in the end.
Can't trade Favors...
I would not trade Favors and Harris for Carmelo. Plus if you did, you are also giving up on Outlaw and James to some extent . With Carmelo, Outlaw and James would get less playing time.
I too oppose trading Harris. Nuggets don't even want him except maybe to trade to another team.
I said Favors + Outlaw, unless Favors shows too much promise by December.
we shouldn't include favors because no other team appears to be willing to....
….part with talent like that to get Anthony
We shouldn’t shoot ourselves in the foot. If some other team is willing to gut themselves, by all means hand them a sword and a bucket for their entrails.
"No one stands on the top of the world. Not you, not me, not even gods. But the unbearable vacancy of the throne in the sky is over. From now on...I will be sitting on it."
by MrDollarBills on Sep 13, 2010 12:26 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
ehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
this was one signing that left me scratching my head but oh well. (as many others) Just don’t see him as a starter in this league.
Great scoring punch off the bench? Heck yea. That has been his role since entering the league I just wonder what did we see that say he is good enough to start.
by killa kadafi191 on Sep 13, 2010 9:10 AM EDT reply actions
Ehh
Being not old, and doing what you are supposed to do (play defense) isn’t exactly the best justification of his salary.
I’m not totally against it, I just hope he shows and proves. I’m quite certain the Nets scouts no far better than most of us.
the Nets obviously have done their homework on this guy
this is why I think some folks are a bit too hasty at calling him overpaid or bashing the signing.
This is the first legitimate SF we’ve had on the roster since Richard Jefferson, I for one did not like watching CDR, Jarvis Hayes, and Trenton Hassel attempt to play SF over the last two years, but other folks seem to think that something like that was better than paying 7 million to this kid
7 mil per does not cripple us financially, and it’s frickin pocket change to a franchise which is sparing no expense to improve inside out
I think he’ll do well and is a perfect fit with Lopez and Harris since he will open up the floor for him and he’s not undersized so we don’t have to worry about him getting brutalized by SF’s like we had to worry with other players. Let him earn his money before we start crying about how the Nets overpaid him.
"No one stands on the top of the world. Not you, not me, not even gods. But the unbearable vacancy of the throne in the sky is over. From now on...I will be sitting on it."
by MrDollarBills on Sep 13, 2010 10:15 AM EDT up reply actions
I think the common perception is
That he could’ve been had for cheaper. Whether he proves himself worth the money we are paying is besides the point if you believe he could’ve been signed shorter term for less money.
However, none of these people are privy to the negotiations that went down, nor have any idea whether other teams were perhaps offering similar and the Nets gave him a 5th year to secure the deal.
I’m happy with Outlaw, looking forward to seeing him produce.
I think the common perception is
That he could’ve been had for cheaper.
I’m not so sure… look at the deals guys like Childress or Matthews got…
After Gay re-signed withe Grizzlies and it was obvious we weren’t getting LeBron. I can’t think of another SF who could make more sense for us than Outlaw… Josh Howard is old and was coming from an injury… RJ is trash… Mike Miller is 30 and we couldn’t compete with the lure that was playing next to Miami’s Big 3…
I'm not disagreeing or agreeing with the statement
I’m just saying we’ve read in plenty of places that we “overpaid” for him, so that IS the common perception.
My point was that they these people with this perception have no clue as to what went on behind closed doors.
exactly bro
"No one stands on the top of the world. Not you, not me, not even gods. But the unbearable vacancy of the throne in the sky is over. From now on...I will be sitting on it."
by MrDollarBills on Sep 13, 2010 12:35 PM EDT up reply actions
@the common perception that he could’ve been had for cheaper
I mostly heard a perception he could’ve been had for a shorter contract.
i have seen or read nothing
that backs that up.
What Outlaw got was basically the full MLE, which is 8% higher than the average NBA salary. That’s about what he was worth in a market that saw Tyrus Thomas get $40 million, Richard Jefferson get $39 million, Amir Johnson get $34 million, Drew Gooden get $32 million.
And of course it matters that he’s only 25. You’re giving a contract to a player who should be peaking during the term of his contract.
Based on what the above guys have accomplished and/or their ages, Outlaw’s deal is what the market would bear.
But as I say, the difference between Nets fans and Knick fans is that Nets fans see a 24 year old French seven footer getting $10 million over three years and think its the ruination of the franchise while Knick fans see a 24 year old Russian center getting $9 million over three years and think it’s a vote for the future.
You've seen nothing that says we overpaid?
It’s the same thing as saying he could’ve been had for cheaper.
That’s everywhere. But as I said in my post, these people have no clue as to what went on during the negotiations.
His performance will dictate whether he is deserving of the salary he was given. But it’s not wrong for people to believe he was overpaid or given too long of a contract. It’s just opinion and speculation.
I have seen nothing
that says he would have accepted less…nothing. I’ve read writers and pundits say he’s overpaid, but not one of them offered ANY detail that he could have had for less. It was an easy argument to make since so many of them had predicted that teams who didn’t get one of the top free agents would overpay for lesser lights. Problem is that those same guys didn’t care that teams who weren’t in the mix for top free agents—like the Bucks, Spurs, Bobcats and Raptors—paid out even more money to lesser lights.
As we’ve noted, the Nets have paid out $70 million for seven free agents—Outlaw, Farmar, Morrow, Petro, Smith, Zoubek and Uzoh—$5 million less than what the Bulls paid for one, Boozer. Whether that will be be seen as smart or not will be determined by what happens, but I like the Nets’ odds.
I don’t care what pundits, writers or bloggers think. He will be, as you noted, judged on what he does on the court.
But in terms of the market, he fits nicely into that list of Thomas, Johnson, Gooden and Jefferson.
Hey, we're loaded with money bags as our new owner...
Who cares if we over paid Outlaw? We had to spend a portion of our cap space anyway. We had no SF and Outlaw was next on the wish list. In our dire situation you just pay the tab and move on.
Plus if Outlaw plays well, people will say he’s under paid in a few years.
the fact that Richard Jefferson received almost 40 million dollars...
….at this point in his career, should kill any talk about Outlaw being overpaid on here.
Richard Jefferson is god awful. And I like RJ because he’ll always be a Net IMO but the dude is easily one of the worst SF’s in basketball right now that gets consistent minutes. We should be grateful that the Nets chose to spend MLE money on Outlaw, a dude that will open things up for Brook, instead of wasting it on garbage like that.
"No one stands on the top of the world. Not you, not me, not even gods. But the unbearable vacancy of the throne in the sky is over. From now on...I will be sitting on it."
by MrDollarBills on Sep 13, 2010 12:39 PM EDT up reply actions
so
because richard jefferson was massively overpaid, it makes outlaw not overpaid.
they were both disgustingly overpaid. jefferson more so than outlaw.
outlaw not in terms of dollars per say (a little), but in terms of years. stress fractures are serious…. 5 years is too much. who offered 3 is my question?
who offered petro one year?
who offered farmar anywhere near what the nets offered?
who else offered Amare Stoudemire $100 Million Dollars? Uninsured at that?
Game, set, match.
How does it feel to fail?
"No one stands on the top of the world. Not you, not me, not even gods. But the unbearable vacancy of the throne in the sky is over. From now on...I will be sitting on it."
by MrDollarBills on Sep 13, 2010 2:04 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
the
differnece between tommy dee and net income is tommy dee doesn’t give misleading facts.
mosgov looked fantastic and second of all his contract is not all guranteed.
petro has proven to suck.
but
yi also played in the nba and sucked.
mosgov hasnt gotten the chance……
because he's a Knicks homer just like you?
"No one stands on the top of the world. Not you, not me, not even gods. But the unbearable vacancy of the throne in the sky is over. From now on...I will be sitting on it."
by MrDollarBills on Sep 13, 2010 1:58 PM EDT up reply actions
He's not great if
He thinks Melo is going to wait out this year and become a free agent. Which is the rampant belief on that site, despite all common sense that would contradict that.
Also, any team that isn’t giving the Nets a shot at Melo is just ridiculous. You’ll notice on this site that we are pro-Nets of course, but even our editor believes the Rockets have the best shot.
Tommy Dee’s site is basically living in this blinded world where everyone thinks the Garden is the single most attractive thing to any free agent.
Here’s one for you: Amar’e didn’t come to NY because it was NY. He came because nobody else in their right mind would’ve paid him the salary the Knicks did (uninsured at that).
Knick fans kill me with their thought process
Knick fan: “A yo, Melo will take less money and sign with the Knicks as a FA in the summer”
The Voice of Reason: “Why would he do that? He’d be foolish to wait and then make 1/2 of what he can make via S&T?”
Knick fan: “Because we’re the Knicks, fool. People would castrate themselves, sacrifice their first born children, or saw off their left foot to play in The Mecca of Sports…duh.”
Tell me I’m wrong. One of the prereqs for becoming a Knicks fan is that you have to be total pompous ass, oblivious to all forms of logic, reason, and reality.
"No one stands on the top of the world. Not you, not me, not even gods. But the unbearable vacancy of the throne in the sky is over. From now on...I will be sitting on it."
by MrDollarBills on Sep 13, 2010 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions
There's plenty of good Knicks fans out there
Old time fans who have seen the rise and fall of many teams with varying degrees of talent.
I have respect for them, especially those that look forward to the rivalry we have in place.
Those fans are cool
it’s the guys that run their mouths as if we haven’t been slapping them around like misbehaved children for almost a decade now that are the problem. These guys can’t be serious. They can barely recall their last playoff appearance.
I mean, how stupid can you be to run your mouth about a 12 win team, when 2 of those 12 wins came at the expense of YOUR own team?
Nevermind the win-loss record between the two clubs since the turn of the century. Knicks fans should be the last fanbase on this planet to even talk trash about us. This is why their haughty taughty attitudes are hilarious….maybe it’s the new age fans, I dunno, but then again you hear older Knicks homers talking like buffoons as well.
"No one stands on the top of the world. Not you, not me, not even gods. But the unbearable vacancy of the throne in the sky is over. From now on...I will be sitting on it."
by MrDollarBills on Sep 13, 2010 3:44 PM EDT up reply actions
no
I think i’ll pick it up at borders tomorrow when i go on a coffee run with the misses
"No one stands on the top of the world. Not you, not me, not even gods. But the unbearable vacancy of the throne in the sky is over. From now on...I will be sitting on it."
by MrDollarBills on Sep 13, 2010 4:55 PM EDT up reply actions
at MrDB
They can barely recall their last playoff appearance.
I do. They got thei butts kicked by KMart and the Nets swept them away in the first round!
I mean, how stupid can you be to run your mouth about a 12 win team, when 2 of those 12 wins came at the expense of YOUR own team?
Exactly, not to mention they have missed the postseason 6 straight years, the NBA’s current worst streak.And they have had 9 losing seasons in a row.
Hey.. I'm just trying to make Gallo feel better...
Poor kid… A Knicks fan who rather hang with Nets fans…
we're a classy group
I can see why he flocks towards us. Hall of fame skills baby
"No one stands on the top of the world. Not you, not me, not even gods. But the unbearable vacancy of the throne in the sky is over. From now on...I will be sitting on it."
by MrDollarBills on Sep 13, 2010 3:50 PM EDT up reply actions
Gallo...ol buddy ol pal....
Your mancrush with Petro has gotten beyond disturbing dude, cut the crap. He has a twitter, so if you want to express your feelings towards him you can do so directly. The rest of us want to talk basketball.
"No one stands on the top of the world. Not you, not me, not even gods. But the unbearable vacancy of the throne in the sky is over. From now on...I will be sitting on it."
by MrDollarBills on Sep 13, 2010 1:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Gallo is just upset because Petro has more followers on Twitter...
then the entire Knicks team have.
One big problem we will have if the Nets start off great this year...
is that Knick bloggers will out number Nets bloggers on NetsDaily…
I look forward to it
"No one stands on the top of the world. Not you, not me, not even gods. But the unbearable vacancy of the throne in the sky is over. From now on...I will be sitting on it."
by MrDollarBills on Sep 13, 2010 2:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, I figured you would Mr. $$$...
You must already be salivating at that scenario taking place… LOL
I love the rivalry myself
what fun is sports if you aren’t talking trash to your rival fanbase?
"No one stands on the top of the world. Not you, not me, not even gods. But the unbearable vacancy of the throne in the sky is over. From now on...I will be sitting on it."
by MrDollarBills on Sep 13, 2010 3:46 PM EDT up reply actions
i'm a major nets fan
but still INTERESTED in the nix; even root for them if they’re not playing us.
eLone...
….as Andres said, the market was already messed up and dudes were being overpaid like crazy(Rudy Gay, 1st of all). The two extra years suck imo but a small price to pay to get us a servicable SF that can stretch the floor and won’t shrink when things get rough in the 4th. Plus, by the time his contract ends, he’ll be 30 and still in his prime. If he exceeds expectations, the contract will look like a bargain and we could also use him in a trade.
Win win for the Nets IMO, unless he gets injured or something.
"No one stands on the top of the world. Not you, not me, not even gods. But the unbearable vacancy of the throne in the sky is over. From now on...I will be sitting on it."
by MrDollarBills on Sep 13, 2010 12:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah and if he's a scrub it'll look bad
But none of that is really the point here of course.
While people say he is overpaid, nobody can say whether he would’ve accepted less, or whether the Nets were in a bidding war for his services.
So unless you believe he would’ve accepted less, which would be just as pointlessly speculative as saying he’s overpaid, it’s impossible to classify him as “overpaid”.
Too little knowledge of the whole process to make any claim one way or the other.
But again, I’m happy to have Outlaw, I think he’s going to be a great addition.
maybe Gay least of all
Gay is more likely to be worth $19 million at the end of his contract in 2015, when he is 28, than RJ will be making $11 million in 2014 when he is 34 years old or Gooden will be making $7 million at age 34 in 2015.
Based on what I heard, the Nets would have come NOWHERE near what Memphis offered Gay.
Just because he wasn't starting doesn't mean he wasn't good enough to
Look at everyone that started ahead of him. He always played more or almost the same minutes as they did. Not to mention he was superior in every single statistical category
What's with the ad branding around the border of the site?
I admit the content is free and you have to get revenue, but it’s sad nonetheless.
Nets = Global
Knicks = Local
Yes Sad about the ads
I woke up this morning and used my droid to check the site and it had a hard time opening it when it always opens it blazing fast. Now I go on my computer (which is a pretty damn strong computer) and it chugged after it fully opened. This stinks.
by Christopher Manchesi on Sep 13, 2010 9:24 AM EDT reply actions
netsdaily is really slow right now :-(
but you gotta do what you gotta do…
"I want to win, I want the team to win and I'm in complete control."
-Coach Avery Johnson.
Which Isaac probably believes
Is actually at the home office of the Nets organization. And you are handed your stories personally and told what to communicate.
That would be a very bad idea
"No one stands on the top of the world. Not you, not me, not even gods. But the unbearable vacancy of the throne in the sky is over. From now on...I will be sitting on it."
by MrDollarBills on Sep 13, 2010 10:21 AM EDT up reply actions
Journalism should never have close ties to the people who would wish to control the information communicated
While this isn’t exactly journalism in it’s traditional sense (more of an awesome aggregate), it certainly is close enough to not want the same people who are being reported in, in control of the source.
No wonder you're able to go on vacations willy nilly :)
That’s a steep asking price. ;)
@eLonepb — I was joking, of course, but maybe you are too :)
Nets = Global
Knicks = Local
Well I wasn't joking about what I said
But I did sense your statement was on the humorous side. Wasn’t an “attack” on you or anything like that.
Yeah, I know :)
The only person who’s really dissed me here is Andres B. And no, I do not forgive or forget {=1|
Nets = Global
Knicks = Local
Well boys... have fun. I'm going to sign off now...
and watch those sissies in shorts hit the ball back and forth for hours. I don’t even like tennis, but when nets are involved I will be there.
I don't like tennis
but Maria Sharapova draws my attention. She’s quite the amazon.
"No one stands on the top of the world. Not you, not me, not even gods. But the unbearable vacancy of the throne in the sky is over. From now on...I will be sitting on it."
by MrDollarBills on Sep 13, 2010 3:55 PM EDT up reply actions
I have not seen any posts from NetsDaily and now you offering the site for sale. I am worried, did you hurt him NI?
by ispartan on Sep 13, 2010 1:10 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
it is impossible to hurt the Great Spirit
he’s been around. He posted the Sean May and Joe Smith stories, you will note.
Whew. Hopefully we will hear more from him once the season starts. He has a good sense of humor.
by ispartan on Sep 13, 2010 3:04 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
that's problem with American journalism now
"No one stands on the top of the world. Not you, not me, not even gods. But the unbearable vacancy of the throne in the sky is over. From now on...I will be sitting on it."
by MrDollarBills on Sep 13, 2010 1:45 PM EDT up reply actions
There is a mobile version that is an auto default when I am using my iPhone, no ads and it is very fast.
by ispartan on Sep 13, 2010 1:07 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
knock knock
any of you ever heard of Ad Block?
Consequences will never be the same.
by NetsMets4Life on Sep 13, 2010 6:56 PM EDT up reply actions
By the numbers...
In his last two full seasons with Portland, Outlaw averaged about 1pt for every 2 minutes played.
(13Pts, 27Min. per game)
So if he played 8-10 more minutes as a starter per game, he should average about 18 pts per game. Not bad…
Also we now have a 6’9" SF. Should help not being undersized at this position like last year.
In fact, the Nets must be one of the taller teams in the league. Seven footers, Lopez and Petro, Murphy 6’11", Outlaw at 6’9", Favors 6-10 plus T-Will at SG 6’6" etc.
Size matters in the NBA
"No one stands on the top of the world. Not you, not me, not even gods. But the unbearable vacancy of the throne in the sky is over. From now on...I will be sitting on it."
by MrDollarBills on Sep 13, 2010 10:22 AM EDT up reply actions
Joe Smith – 6’11", Hump – a strong 6’9", DJames – strong 6’8", Zoubek – 7’1" (if he makes team)
Will be fun to much Nets, for that reason alone.
Petro should be the biggest uncertainty, from what others have said – I hope Avery can light a fire under Petro.
One of the comments by a fan, 1 week ago, regarding this play says...
“if i feel blah about the world, i play this clip, and by the third or fourth slow-mo view, all is well again”.
Did any of you guys read the article?
I love this guy Sam Littman, I wonder if he’s also Outlaw’s agent. LOL
If the following isn’t a positive assessment of Outlaw and the Nets… what is?
“Now he finds himself in New Jersey, surrounded by a bevy of talent, and the Nets aren’t paying him $35 million not to start him. New Jersey may well be the perfect landing spot for the talented 6-9 swingman, whose skills will be expertly utilized by Avery Johnson, and he will finally have the security of a starting job. He will get plenty of great looks and could become the dynamic offensive weapon that scouts projected he could be out of high school, which would certainly qualify him as a top candidate for this year’s unofficial comeback player of the year honor.”
Wow…
If he has a breakout year
this team is going to make the playoffs.
"No one stands on the top of the world. Not you, not me, not even gods. But the unbearable vacancy of the throne in the sky is over. From now on...I will be sitting on it."
he is a long athletic wing, and is a shooter, goes with every other signing we have made this offseason, the nets goal was to get shooters to surround brook with, they did a hell of a job
...and give Harris some room as well
a lot of space just opened in the lane, which is where he does his damage.
Can anyone find the long recent workout video of Outlaw, that someone posted almost 1 month ago?
In that video, Outlaw hits about 100 of 100 shots from everywhere (obviously edited).
It runs almost 15 minutes and isn’t on his own web site.
I wished I had saved the link.
A lot of people think Travis only shoots long range...
This kid can also play up front with the big boys…
travis outlaw
hops. he can jump up in the air.
exactly
Teams cannot pack the paint against us like they have done for the past two seasons, unless they want to be buried under a hail of threes.
But let the fools believe that this is the same 12 win team as last year. There will be some pissed off fanbases when their team gets “upset” by the lowly Nets.
"No one stands on the top of the world. Not you, not me, not even gods. But the unbearable vacancy of the throne in the sky is over. From now on...I will be sitting on it."
by MrDollarBills on Sep 13, 2010 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions
What I like about outlaw
Is he was a bench player and when u look at comments on YouTube several ppl say he is there favorite player. Must be a standup guy
If you haven't noticed...
All the players the Nets acquired this off season are labeled “good character” guys…
Good
better to have a locker room full of character instead of a pack of d-bags
Notice that San Antonio also had locker rooms dominated by good character guys that want to play ball.
Good character guys also won’t fold or act like spoiled brats when a coach gives them instruction and demands excellence.
"No one stands on the top of the world. Not you, not me, not even gods. But the unbearable vacancy of the throne in the sky is over. From now on...I will be sitting on it."
by MrDollarBills on Sep 13, 2010 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions
The problem with fans...
is that when players like Outlaw and Murphy don’t become superstars, fans get disappointed in them. Being just “good” is not good enough….I will take “good” every time.
hahahh
how is it that we go from Bobby Simmons/Yi at forward to Outlaw/Murphy and some people want to act like that’s absolute garbage.
"No one stands on the top of the world. Not you, not me, not even gods. But the unbearable vacancy of the throne in the sky is over. From now on...I will be sitting on it."
by MrDollarBills on Sep 13, 2010 2:29 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't mind good players
especially when I’m not paying threw the nose for them and I still have the flexibility to sign a great player that could lead me to a title. It’s only when you have to pay top $ for guys who can’t deliver a title that I have a problem with those “good” players. Guys like Outlaw and Murphy are role players. They might be good with their role but the problem is fans might think they are better than they really are. They are 10X better than the garbage we had last year at the forwards but they might not be good enough to make the playoffs with. I’m just glad we only have an agenda to win as opposed to the last couple of years. Keep our flexibility and build threw the draft. Once we start winning we could add our final piece with the right FA. All I want to see this year is how Favors progresses on D.
I just read articles at the time of the injury, that state Outlaw broke his foot...
playing defense. No wonder Avery Johnson wanted him so bad!
I like the fact that......
Petro is underrated…….I see him as a solid player who will run the court and surprise us Nets Fans…..
He's a backup
I don’t know what the big deal is, or why people are trashing our signing of an athletic BACKUP center.
Plus he speaks French...
He can teach the rest of the team curse words in French. We might avoid some technical fouls that way.
Petro played for the Nuggets before the Nets.
The Nuggets fans (Nuggets fans site) seem unanimous that Petro isn’t worth anything near what he is getting and they wouldn’t want him back.
They seem to feel the same way about Petro, as Nets fans feel about Josh Boone.
However, that doesn’t mean than Petro isn’t much better than Boone. Just that Denver has a higher standard for their backup Center, having been a top tier team these past years.
Hopefully, all Petro needs is for Avery to light a fire under him, because he is supposed to have the ability and quickness for his size.
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