Nets Sign Sean May
by Net Income on Aug 9, 2010 6:39 PM EDT
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PrintThe Nets signed Sean May Monday to a one-year, non-guaranteed contract. May, 26, will make the veterans' minimum of $992,000 if he makes the team. Of that total, the Nets will pay $854,000, the NBA the rest. It's been customary for the Nets to include a team option for a second year in veterans' minimum deals.
May averaged 3.3 points and 1.9 rebounds in nine minutes per game over 37 games last season, the most he's played in his five-year career. May's signing will bring the Nets' roster to 15, with 12 guaranteed deals. The team has added 10 new players since the end of last season but don't expect them to add any more soon.
Dave D'Alessandro writes at the bottom of his story on the London games that the Nets are unwilling to pay other PF candidates guaranteed money. Not Louis Amundson (wants $3 million), Joe Smith (wants a full guarantee), Brian Scalabrine or Ike Diogu (both coming off injuries). Dave D does note the Nets have never renounced Jarvis Hayes' rights, permitting them to work a sign-and-trade for someone. Oh yeah, forget Josh Boone, too.
Meanwhile, a Kings fan posted a parody of ESPN's breathless coverage of LeBron James' "Decision" called "Sean Maydar". It's first line, "I'm taking my talents to the Jersey Shore".
- New Jersey Nets
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Another Tweet from him
Man just logged on my twitter! Appreciate all the love!!’ thank you! I’m excited about the Future and Helping the Nets!
I’m just hoping he can come in and stay in shape and make the team because he can help, not because he’s cheap.
One line to instantly make you feel better about Sean May...
“At least it’s not Eddy Curry at 20 mil”
Feel better? I knew it would!
Good luck, Sean May!
by JohnFromLongIsland on Aug 9, 2010 8:30 AM EDT reply actions
For what it's worth...
The following extract was taken off the SB*Nations Kings blog. One of the writers on the Kings site was summing up the Kings season.
10. Sean May and Ime Udoka’s Professionalism
“May was the ultimate team player this year. He came into the games to play and to help his team win. He got into the best shape of his NBA career. He was a great teammate, offering encouragement to all. Udoka came in and played stellar defense, never gave up on plays, and rebounded extremely well. It’s unlikely that the Kings will retain either of these player’s services for next year, but I wish them the best”.
great find, MIKE
I’m pleased to read this. I don’t Avery would be willing to give him a chance if that wasn’t true.
Exactly
If this guy was out of shape he wouldn’t even have had a chance to put the pen to the ink, not with Avery in charge.
"No one stands on the top of the world. Not you, not me, not even gods. But the unbearable vacancy of the throne in the sky is over. From now on...I will be sitting on it."
by MrDollarBills on Aug 9, 2010 10:18 AM EDT up reply actions
Does anyone know the date of his micro fracture surgery? I assume it was sometime in late 2007?
I thought that some players take closer to 3 years to recover?
Maybe all he needed was more time.
May realizes that this is his last chance, so he could be just what Nets needed.
hopefully he is healthy and make the team.
"There's no way, with hindsight, I would've ever called up Larry, called up Magic and said, 'Hey, look, let's get together and play on one team,'"
by jasperjarrod on Aug 9, 2010 8:39 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
For what it's worth... Part 2.
The same Kings writer a month earlier, March 14 2010…
7. Sean May
“I’m officially on the Sean May fan club, after saying earlier this year that I wouldn’t mind not seeing him play the whole year. But he’s converted me. Great teammate, plays hard no matter what. Here’s hoping he can sign with a team that will play him in a bigger role next year. Might I suggest New York? I wouldn’t be averse to keeping May as a glue guy for little money either”.
BigMay42
His Twitter handle is really BigMay42??? Yikes.
Doesn’t sound like he’s all that committed to slimming down.
Even if he slims down, which I assume he has since he's being brought in here...
…..he’ll be big, regardless.
Everything that I have read from him per the Kings fandom has been very positive. If he comes in here, can stay healthy, then we really have found a bargain for under a million dollars. Not bad. Good luck and good health to Sean May
Depending upon May having a successful training camp and makes the team, the 4 Platoon shapes up to be Favors, The Hump, May, Petro, with Outlaw and James playing PF in stretch/small ball situations.
I’m fine with that. Nothing perfect, and will probably lead to us taking some lumps at certain points, but it doesn’t need to be right now.
And the lifespan of this platoon all depends on Derrick learning how to keep himself on the floor. I look forward to seeing his progress.
"No one stands on the top of the world. Not you, not me, not even gods. But the unbearable vacancy of the throne in the sky is over. From now on...I will be sitting on it."
by MrDollarBills on Aug 9, 2010 9:53 AM EDT up reply actions
the guy looks excited for the opportunity
Hopefully he’ll fight and work hard in order to stay in shape and make the roster
if he wants to have some semblance of an NBA career
he’ll play like his life depends on it.
I like to see people with their backs against the wall. It shows what you have have on the inside: Either you get crushed or you push back. Lets see what happens with this guy.
"No one stands on the top of the world. Not you, not me, not even gods. But the unbearable vacancy of the throne in the sky is over. From now on...I will be sitting on it."
by MrDollarBills on Aug 9, 2010 10:20 AM EDT up reply actions
He is supposedly down to his his college weight
that’s a good start.
not "that" Jersey Shore...Point Pleasant, 10 refreshing miles north of Seaside.
by John at the Jersey Shore on Aug 9, 2010 9:58 AM EDT reply actions
You must be joshing...
I think if the Nets wanted him he would’ve been back already. But you never know what could happen down the road.
Boone is not a nitwit. He's one of the more intelligent interviews. That is his problem. He thinks too much. That has something to do with his free throw problem.
He also gets migraines, which I believe they have tried to treat with all those “experimental” migraines medicines, which often create a “rebound effect” and make things worse.
i agree somewhat Isaac
but looks like Boone is a past memory
Nice kid, has his positives as a player but a lack of offensive ability as well as his mental make up and inability to shoot FT’s kept him from becoming a solid big man.
"No one stands on the top of the world. Not you, not me, not even gods. But the unbearable vacancy of the throne in the sky is over. From now on...I will be sitting on it."
by MrDollarBills on Aug 9, 2010 10:22 AM EDT up reply actions
The Nets don't like their players to overstay their welcome
Boone peaked.
Nets = Global
Knicks = Local
whoa. The Nets got some PF flexibility!
"...where they don't play with a shot clock." - C. Sager
by kv on Aug 9, 2010 10:03 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
that shirt is pure win
I want it.
BTW, NetsDaily and Net Income should use that pic from now on when making any Sean May related post.
"No one stands on the top of the world. Not you, not me, not even gods. But the unbearable vacancy of the throne in the sky is over. From now on...I will be sitting on it."
by MrDollarBills on Aug 9, 2010 10:23 AM EDT up reply actions
Definitely, Love that shirt.
For someone to even put that shirt on with the F’en Hat, he has to be confident. Then to take this stupid picture.
WoW!!! Boone WHO??
Sean May will be a good practice buddy for Favors...
May has the post moves, has range up to just inside the 3-pt line (can drive past you IF you commit to defend the outside shot) and can body up on Favors…he is no Amare, Bosh or Boozer but he can simulate what Favors can expect from starting forwards…
great point
"No one stands on the top of the world. Not you, not me, not even gods. But the unbearable vacancy of the throne in the sky is over. From now on...I will be sitting on it."
by MrDollarBills on Aug 9, 2010 10:52 AM EDT up reply actions
A 6’8.5" guy who cannot get off the ground is going to be a great practice partner for a guy who can touch the box? He’ll give him some girth and shove, and make him step out on a jumper, but little else. He is not a prototypical PF skill set. He’ll make a great prep for when they play Boston though.
"...where they don't play with a shot clock." - C. Sager
by kv on Aug 9, 2010 11:02 AM EDT up reply actions
Does anybody know?
I tried reading as much current info on Sean as i could find, and nobody seems to mention the knee as being a problem now. Does anybody know how the knee is doing and does it still bother him? I wonder if he will take a physical before signing his contract.
At least the Nets now have their “stretch” PF. LOL
Here is some history of microfracture surgery in the NBA.
As you can see the prospects are iffy, but the most conditioned hard working athletes seem to recover to a significant degree. Few of these guys are his weight though. May is on this list near the bottom.
"...where they don't play with a shot clock." - C. Sager
by kv on Aug 9, 2010 10:52 AM EDT up reply actions
we should ask the Kings fans
"No one stands on the top of the world. Not you, not me, not even gods. But the unbearable vacancy of the throne in the sky is over. From now on...I will be sitting on it."
by MrDollarBills on Aug 9, 2010 10:52 AM EDT up reply actions
By all accounts he played hard and had a sweet jumper. Most knew that he wasn’t going to be kept, even for the vet minimum. What does that make of him? He can’t remain on one of the worst young teams as a 12th man, even though he impressed with effort and attitude and some skill and demanded no money. One King fan gave him a D- grade for the year in the year round up, while others commented that they wanted to see him for one more year. All in all it seems that the Kings liked him, but not really much more than a fringe player.
"...where they don't play with a shot clock." - C. Sager
by kv on Aug 9, 2010 10:59 AM EDT up reply actions
again and again and again
you are Linear-man, Analog-man.
The Kings had a number of bigs on rookie contracts who they wanted to give time to: Spencer Hawes, Jason Thompson, Donte Greene, plus a young player (25) in Carl Landry who they traded for in mid-season.
Of course, they were going to play them over him. Capece?
And he may not even make the team…in case you dont know what a non-guaranteed deal means.
by Net Income on Aug 9, 2010 11:24 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
And They Certainly Do Need Him This Year
Cousins
Whiteside
Dalembert
Landry
Thompson
all at the 4/5.
by Jack Handy Jr on Aug 9, 2010 11:35 AM EDT up reply actions
The first three, by all reports, are not PFs.
I personally think that Cousins can play PF some, but every time I suggest it I get attacked like crazy on this site.
"...where they don't play with a shot clock." - C. Sager
by kv on Aug 9, 2010 12:33 PM EDT up reply actions
You See My Point
Meanwhile:
Landry
JT
Cousins or Whiteside (they started in SL)
Casspi
D.Greene
Can all play PF to a certain extent
Sacramento even s&t Brockman (a PF) for nothing to Milwaukee since there were not minutes for him.
by Jack Handy Jr on Aug 9, 2010 12:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Well most everyone thinks that Cousins cannot PF, despite what you and I think.
In any case, we have a guy who couldn’t make 12th man on the Kings, to a guy who might not make the team on a team starved for a PF, also one of the worst teams in the league. Not a lot of hope there.
People want to have it BOTH ways. He is not good enough to make the team (likely), but he’s going to come into camp in amazing shape, forget about the microfracture surgery, and REALLY add to the depth at PF.
Which is it. Not only is the glass half full, its completely full…or, I never really wanted that water anyways.
"...where they don't play with a shot clock." - C. Sager
by kv on Aug 9, 2010 12:47 PM EDT up reply actions
And he may not even make the team…in case you dont know what a non-guaranteed deal means.
They signed May to see if he can part of the rotation at the four…and possibly the five. And Petro has said he expects to get some time at the four.
Again, there is flexibility here.
Okay, let’s get this straight Mr. non-linear Analyst. He is BOTH at the same time:
1. May not make the team.
2. Helps defines all the flexibility we have at PF.
Brilliant. A guy who is a fringe player at best (may not make the team) combines with a guy who has never played PF (Petro), and the Nets have “flexibility”.
You speak with fork-tongue.
"...where they don't play with a shot clock." - C. Sager
by kv on Aug 9, 2010 12:32 PM EDT up reply actions
HE IS NON GUARANTEED
HE DOESNT COUNT AGAINST THE CAP, THE ROSTER OR ANYTHING OTHER THAN SOME IMAGINARY BENCHMARK YOU ESTABLISHED.
So he is so bad he might not make the team, or cannot command a guaranteed contract, but he is also so good he adds significantly to the PF depth.
forked tongue.
"...where they don't play with a shot clock." - C. Sager
by kv on Aug 10, 2010 5:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Good Move
Low risk, and high payoff if it works. May is a big body and is super smooth under the hoop. He has a great pedigree and if he’s a bench player or occasional starter, he’ll do well if he stays healthy. I mean, I’d rather have May for one year at under a mil than Luis Scola for 10 million a year for five years.
exactly
Why spend that kind of money when you are grooming a potential stud PF?
"No one stands on the top of the world. Not you, not me, not even gods. But the unbearable vacancy of the throne in the sky is over. From now on...I will be sitting on it."
by MrDollarBills on Aug 9, 2010 10:53 AM EDT up reply actions
I know, what were the Nets thinking????
I don’t mean that rhetorically, I mean it seriously.
Either…
1. They don’t believe they are grooming a stud?
2. They don’t know what they are doing.
3. ?
"...where they don't play with a shot clock." - C. Sager
by kv on Aug 9, 2010 10:55 AM EDT up reply actions
or...
you dont know what youre talking about…which is quite often the case.
If they did something stupid like trading away cap space for a mediocre Brandon Bass, then that might indicate they don’t know what they’re doing.
It’s really quite simple: they would prefer not using Travis Outlaw at the four (Avery Johnson has said that) and realize Johan Petro at the four is a last resort. So they are trying to find someone with a PF skillset that is 1) a good guy and 2) may be undervalued because of injuries or other (non-mental) issues. May does that.
by Net Income on Aug 9, 2010 11:18 AM EDT up reply actions 6 recs
Total Opposite of SWAT.
He seems to be fundamentally sound on the court and between the ears. You are right…. The Nets don’t want to waste $ on a PF that will take away from Favors development. I think it is great that, if May sticks with this team, he can help Favors who is also a quiet, good kid. Who knows… they both might start working out together and May could get in much better shape and teach him how to get in better rebounding position. This is low risk-high reward. This is May last chance…
The Nets don’t want to waste $ on a PF that will take away from Favors development.
Then why did they pursue Thomas and Scola?
"...where they don't play with a shot clock." - C. Sager
by kv on Aug 9, 2010 12:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Because they obviously thought that Scola and Thomas were worth it...
Unlike other players who were available. Scola would have been an excellent signing, especially because it was a front-loaded deal. By the time Favors would be 100% ready to start, Scola would be a good 6th-7th man.
Outside of Lee, Boozer, Scola and Thomas (I think Thomas is terrible, but obviously Nets brass does not), Favors is a better option right now.
by ZR on Aug 9, 2010 12:53 PM EDT up reply actions
But I thought that if you “understood basketball” you would understand that Favors is the priority, and cap space is “sacrosanct”.
How did the Nets get so smart in the last 2 weeks? They were about to blow all their cap space on Thomas. What’s that about?
"...where they don't play with a shot clock." - C. Sager
by kv on Aug 9, 2010 12:54 PM EDT up reply actions
Thomas was Avery's choice, not Thorn's preference (due to attitude problems).
Basically I think the answer is that Nets aren’t going to do anything more right now, because the Nets don’t know how good/big the team is, especially for the Bigs.
Other teams want to wait too, so there aren’t any bargains right now.
Depending on how things look, I’m sure King would make a move to strengthen the “Big” situation if a good deal developed towards the end of this year.
I will continue to remind everyone, that Proky promised that Nets would make the playoffs this year.
rec'd
"No one stands on the top of the world. Not you, not me, not even gods. But the unbearable vacancy of the throne in the sky is over. From now on...I will be sitting on it."
by MrDollarBills on Aug 9, 2010 12:09 PM EDT up reply actions
You speak with fork tongue
If they did something stupid like trading away cap space for a mediocre Brandon Bass, then that might indicate they don’t know what they’re doing.
That’s interesting. The always on point Net Income (someone must have grabbed your computer last week) wrote:
Net Income: "Last week, we listed a few point guards who we thought the Nets would be interested in if they are indeed going for "glue guys". This week, we’re going to take a look at a couple of young power forwards who play for teams that appear to have decided to go in a different direction, leaving these guys available. In both cases, their teams have to be thinking about the luxury tax and may not need a player in return…
..The second player out there is Brandon Bass of the Magic. Bass, at 6’8", is a power forward…period. He’s being paid $4 million over each of the next three years, making him a bit more expensive. Bass thrived under Avery Johnson, but has done nothing before or since Dallas. He averaged 8.4 ppg and 4.5 rpg in 19 minutes a game over 160 games in Dallas. But after signing a $16 million deal with the Magic, Bass played in only 50 games for the Magic, averaging 5.8 ppg in only 13 minutes a game. The Magic are way over the luxury tax and don’t seem to have much love for Bass, focusing instead on Ryan Anderson as their backup 4"
I missed the part on July 31st where you failed to mention how horrible the idea of trading for Bass was, how only a moron who doesn’t know basketball would consider such an idea.
"...where they don't play with a shot clock." - C. Sager
by kv on Aug 9, 2010 12:37 PM EDT up reply actions
It’s really quite simple: they would prefer not using Travis Outlaw at the four (Avery Johnson has said that) and realize Johan Petro at the four is a last resort. So they are trying to find someone with a PF skillset that is 1) a good guy and 2) may be undervalued because of injuries or other (non-mental) issues. May does that.
You obviously were not reading closely. My comment about not knowing what they were doing was the reported offer to Scola and to Thomas. Apparently the Nets did not know what they were doing THEN, if NOW it is imperative that cap space be saved and the young prodigy be given playing time.
"...where they don't play with a shot clock." - C. Sager
by kv on Aug 9, 2010 12:39 PM EDT up reply actions
I agree KV and dollarbills
The Nets had me scratching my head with the money they were offering or preparing to offer for Tyrus Thomas and Scola.
The May move makes more sense for what they were saying. We are preparing to groom Favors into a stud but then we hear how bad the teams needs a starting four right now.
Which makes me wonder why do they need one so bad? This team isn’t competing for a ring and will likely miss the playoffs so what is the urgency?
Let’s develop and not sign on short term gain players.
by killa kadafi191 on Aug 9, 2010 11:44 AM EDT up reply actions
Scola makes sense, Tyrus never did
MJ saved the Nets by giving Tyrus that ridiculous contract. Scola on the other hand, would actually be very useful and productive for the life of that proposed contract and could play effectively as either a starter or a reserve at both the 4 and 5.
Please Prokhorov never again listen to the fools that told you it was a good idea to retain Rod Thorn
How many years was the Scola contract for
my question is what happens when Favors is ready how do we deal with either players we signed
by killa kadafi191 on Aug 9, 2010 11:53 AM EDT up reply actions
was it ever confirmed that...
…the Nets had made a formal, official offer to either player?
"No one stands on the top of the world. Not you, not me, not even gods. But the unbearable vacancy of the throne in the sky is over. From now on...I will be sitting on it."
by MrDollarBills on Aug 9, 2010 12:13 PM EDT up reply actions
Are you denying that they were seriously interested?
"...where they don't play with a shot clock." - C. Sager
by kv on Aug 9, 2010 12:41 PM EDT up reply actions
sigh...
…no. I am asking if it was ever confirmed that there were official contract offers made to these players. We all know that the Nets had interest, but there is a difference between showing interest and actually presenting a contract deal to a player.
"No one stands on the top of the world. Not you, not me, not even gods. But the unbearable vacancy of the throne in the sky is over. From now on...I will be sitting on it."
by MrDollarBills on Aug 9, 2010 12:45 PM EDT up reply actions
So, if the Nets had interest in blowing the cap on a PF such as these guys did they know what they were doing or NOT?
Apparently if you are in the least bit interested in a PF for the Nets these days you don’t understand basketball at all.
But the Net moves for Thomas and Scola were brilliant?
"...where they don't play with a shot clock." - C. Sager
by kv on Aug 9, 2010 12:49 PM EDT up reply actions
if they had an interest....
…and I don’t blame them for having interest, fine. At that point, the Nets had to look at all options because they were figuring out where to go after Plan A did not work. But not jumping off of the bridge for these players was the course of action that they took at the end of the day, and it sounds like they had a clue about what they wanted to do.
Are you really trying to damn the team for doing their due dilligence?
"No one stands on the top of the world. Not you, not me, not even gods. But the unbearable vacancy of the throne in the sky is over. From now on...I will be sitting on it."
by MrDollarBills on Aug 9, 2010 12:59 PM EDT up reply actions
Kerber said the Nets showed “sincere” interest in Thomas, but, like Dave D said, they had to convince Avery that spending all that money on TT wasn’t worth it.
ah
Well, glad to see the franchise is also checking Avery when they feel that a decision isn’t prudent.
Avery believes that he could have made good use of Thomas, but I’m siding with the franchise on this one. Not for that much money. Let Jordan cripple his team, one less team we have to worry about on the way up the ladder IMO.
"No one stands on the top of the world. Not you, not me, not even gods. But the unbearable vacancy of the throne in the sky is over. From now on...I will be sitting on it."
by MrDollarBills on Aug 9, 2010 1:11 PM EDT up reply actions
The Nets were not blowing the cap on Scola
Because the offer was front-loaded. By the end of the deal he would have been making less than the full MLE, making him a very serviceable backup PF.
Scola is also a very very good piece to have and is very underrated. While he is not the most athletic or the best shooter or the best defender, he is very efficient and anchored a depleted Rockets team all season long.
by ZR on Aug 9, 2010 1:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Good point
didn’t know that there was an actual offer made though, just interest shown.
"No one stands on the top of the world. Not you, not me, not even gods. But the unbearable vacancy of the throne in the sky is over. From now on...I will be sitting on it."
by MrDollarBills on Aug 9, 2010 1:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Scola’s deal was five years (four and an option, I think) . he’s already 30, I don’t think he’ll get much better.
by dennishopson on Aug 9, 2010 12:13 PM EDT up reply actions
that's what I'm saying
5 years for Scola plus already 30 seem too much
by killa kadafi191 on Aug 9, 2010 12:30 PM EDT up reply actions
agreed
I actually like his toughness, BBIQ, low post talents and team 1st mentality, and I think he could have been the perfect veteran to help out a kid like Favors, but I would have never signed him to a contract like that.
LOL
Seems like right now we’re coming around to any move the Nets make. It sure is a watered down version of what we expected after the season. We thought some combination of…
1. Wall/Turner
2. Lebron or Gay
3. Amare/Bosh/Boozer/Lee
4. Thorn would stay around
5. Proky promising a big splash in free agency
We end up with
1. Favors
2. Outlaw
3. Sean May
4. Billy King
5. Proky promising to hold onto cap space for a big splash at the trade deadline or next summer.
Just shows that we as fans just love our Nets no matter what they do. As the old saying goes…Hope springs eternal I guess…
If you watched the past few seasons
You would be happy that Thorn is gone
Please Prokhorov never again listen to the fools that told you it was a good idea to retain Rod Thorn
hahaahahaahhah
do you count this summer among Thorn many “mistakes” cpawfan?
by killa kadafi191 on Aug 9, 2010 11:45 AM EDT up reply actions
If you watched the past few seasons
you would be happy Ratner is gone. When this season ends and you watch TWill, Lopez, Harris, James and Favors you’ll be sad Thorn is gone.
yeah
I mean really his play in SL isn’t a great predictor on how good he’ll be but I was shocked that he was having that much trouble getting adjusted. Wall came in and made those games look like a casual pick up game at the YMCA.
Damn shame about us getting screwed in the lottery. But I’m good with Derrick.
"No one stands on the top of the world. Not you, not me, not even gods. But the unbearable vacancy of the throne in the sky is over. From now on...I will be sitting on it."
by MrDollarBills on Aug 9, 2010 12:32 PM EDT up reply actions
If you watched the Summer League you would be unhappy they did take Favors. Which is it? Summer League reveals all, or Summer League doesn’t matter much.
You speak with fork tongue.
"...where they don't play with a shot clock." - C. Sager
by kv on Aug 9, 2010 12:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Speaking of summer league,
the Nets went 3-2 this year vs. 0-5 last year, so maybe that augurs well for next season.
And 0-5 or 1-4 the previous year.
That’s why (I think) TWill went on a scoring spree, to get us off the schnide.
not "that" Jersey Shore...Point Pleasant, 10 refreshing miles north of Seaside.
by John at the Jersey Shore on Aug 10, 2010 10:04 AM EDT up reply actions
That James kid also helped out...
Damion James seems to be flying under the radar right now with Nets fans. I’m betting that won’t be for long!
exactly
That kid looks like a beast of a small forward. Can’t wait to see him in regular season action knocking down the trey
"No one stands on the top of the world. Not you, not me, not even gods. But the unbearable vacancy of the throne in the sky is over. From now on...I will be sitting on it."
by MrDollarBills on Aug 10, 2010 12:06 PM EDT up reply actions
the gift from Russia blinded everybody
around the all star break we’ll come to our senses with him in the rookie-sophmore game.
We should be represented well Favors, James and T-Pain.
Hope springs...so true!
Doesn’t this sound familiar, Net fans? The Nets giving some fallen player a chance to make a comeback? We’ve been through this many times, right? Oh well, maybe this one will actually do it
not "that" Jersey Shore...Point Pleasant, 10 refreshing miles north of Seaside.
by John at the Jersey Shore on Aug 9, 2010 12:01 PM EDT up reply actions
it's called reality....
….the pipe dreams prior to the draft and then free agency were just that, pipe dreams.
Now that most of us have accepted the reality of the situation on the ground, the Nets have made some decent moves adding talent and depth while continuing to put a focus on youth development and maintaining flexibility to make moves.
It’s not like we’re sitting here accepting a bunch of god awful, franchise crippling moves and trying to put a spin on it. The Nets have improved their roster, maintained their young core of talent, and have a ton of picks at their disposal all while still managing to maintain 14-15 million in cap space. That is not a sign of a team that is acting stupid, but a team that is actually doing things right.
To me, it’s those folks that refuse to face facts that this team will have to build from within for the most part that are upset with these moves, and want the team to conduct themselves in a kneejerk, irrational fashion. I’m fine with being patient and watching how things unfold. Some aren’t, and I can understand, but I want to see the Nets win a championship in my life time, not remain stuck in the middle of the pack.
"No one stands on the top of the world. Not you, not me, not even gods. But the unbearable vacancy of the throne in the sky is over. From now on...I will be sitting on it."
by MrDollarBills on Aug 9, 2010 12:21 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Mr DB
nobody said the fans were upset with these moves. It’s been quite the opposite. But at season’s end there were very high expectations of free agency based on Proky. But as an example, last week when we learned that May would be signed, there wasn’t much expectations. But now you read about it being a good signing. I’m just pointing out how most of the moves that have been made weren’t expected but there is a positive spin on them.. Just like every move the Nets have made from Charles Shackleford and Dennis Hopson to Swat and Sean May, I hope for the best.. I even hoped for the best with Yinka Dare…lol
LOL
No no, I see your point bro what I was saying is that while I yes, we do love our team, I don’t think that, at least from my POV, that there needs to be any spin on these moves. Aside from giving Outlaw two extra years, I don’t see anything negative about these moves.
"No one stands on the top of the world. Not you, not me, not even gods. But the unbearable vacancy of the throne in the sky is over. From now on...I will be sitting on it."
by MrDollarBills on Aug 9, 2010 12:36 PM EDT up reply actions
but some folks are upset with these moves, btw
"No one stands on the top of the world. Not you, not me, not even gods. But the unbearable vacancy of the throne in the sky is over. From now on...I will be sitting on it."
by MrDollarBills on Aug 9, 2010 12:36 PM EDT up reply actions
and May...
….isn’t even expected to make the roster. I view it as a no risk, high reward situation.
"No one stands on the top of the world. Not you, not me, not even gods. But the unbearable vacancy of the throne in the sky is over. From now on...I will be sitting on it."
by MrDollarBills on Aug 9, 2010 12:37 PM EDT up reply actions
@ MrDollarBills, Great sum up!
We rid ourselves of the RAT! Biggest move, even if this Russian dude does not live up to the hype, ANYTHING is better than the RAT!
In addition, we kept the five players worth keeping from last year’s disgrace: Devin, Courntey, Terrence, Humphries and Brook. Sorry, Keyon would have been ok as well.
We have added more than serviceable and multi-talented players with Farmar, Outlaw, and Morrow.
We also added two potential studs in the draft with Favors and James. We lost out on Wall, but, Favors can be exactly what we needed next to Brook for a one two punch in our front court. James has shown his work ethic couple with his overall game can be something of a steal of a player for us.
We got a coach that has fire and passion for winning and will not settle for anything less.
I just wish Rod would have stayed on board for a couple of more years to continue to right this ship.
My biggest thing is keeping our identity: we are the NETS! Do not change that!
LETS GO NETS!
Once again Dolla,
We are in agreement.
Some People just dont understand.
The Knicks will quickly realize that yeah getting Amare was a good move, but over paying a player that is going to get smacked around by the Heat, Celtics, and Magic for the length of the $100 million contract is going to backfire.
The Nets made the right player moves even though I still have a problem with overpaying Outlaw.
Vet Min deals and Team Options
If there is a team option for a second year, the league does not pick up any of the Vet Min contract. The league only reimburses teams for one year Veterans Minimum contracts.
Please Prokhorov never again listen to the fools that told you it was a good idea to retain Rod Thorn
Unless there doing Mays agent a favor...
I would have to think the Nets see some potential and purpose in acquiring Sean May. Why go through all the trouble of signing him and bringing him into camp. Proky and AJ don’t seem the type of guys to suffer fools gladly. I believe the Nets are hoping Sean can make the team and play meaningful minutes. Bringing him in to be a “punching bag” for Favors sounds kind of silly.
Espn projects the Nets to be 14th in the east with a 27-55 record
"I want to win, I want the team to win and I'm in complete control."
-Coach Avery Johnson.
27 wins
sounds about right. That’s a pretty big improvement.
by dennishopson on Aug 9, 2010 12:14 PM EDT up reply actions
27 wins is right
but I can’t see how that’s only 14th. There’s got to be one team that finishes in the teens.
"Everything looks nicer when you win. The girls are prettier, the cigars taste better. The trees are greener."
agreed
"No one stands on the top of the world. Not you, not me, not even gods. But the unbearable vacancy of the throne in the sky is over. From now on...I will be sitting on it."
by MrDollarBills on Aug 9, 2010 12:25 PM EDT up reply actions
27 wins is right on the money
that is better than I had 24
by killa kadafi191 on Aug 9, 2010 12:31 PM EDT up reply actions
I have them at 26 at the moment.
But I’ll consider it a good season IF (to name a few) to me…
1. Favors shows some promise and that he is someone that as “All – Star” label over him.
2. Brook Lopez recovers from Mono in time and has more growth… He needs to appear in the 2nd Half. ( I think Brook will have a slow start to the season.)
3. T-Will improves and show even more flashes of being a play-maker and drives to the basket always.
4. Devin Harris returns to form so that we can trade him. If he has a 18.8ppg/3.2reb/7asst year I think that greatly raise is value. He must play +75 games.
5. Morrow has to improve his driving game and maintain his stroke.
I also
….think that Brook might have a slow start.
"No one stands on the top of the world. Not you, not me, not even gods. But the unbearable vacancy of the throne in the sky is over. From now on...I will be sitting on it."
by MrDollarBills on Aug 10, 2010 12:13 PM EDT up reply actions
Did you guys see ESPN's prediction that we'll finish the season tied for the worst record in the East?
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?page=SummerForecast10-EastStandings
Ouch. Predict NYK will have 10 more wins, make the playoffs. Of course, they also think five teams will essentially end up with the same record, which is nonsense.
Nets = Global
Knicks = Local
@ Andres B, I agree with you and Rod!
We have to be better than the Cavs! Cavs, without Lebron, suck! I say we win 33 or 34, especially if we start Terrence!
LETS GO NETS!
yeah
Cavs are gonna be god awful, IMO. I think we should finish ahead of them… There’s a group of teams I don’t think we’re inferior to, even if we don’t finish ahead of them at the end of the season we could compete against them… Indiana, Philly, Washington… I think we’re def. gonna be better than Toronto and Cleveland.
33-34 sounds good, I say we could be in the 32-35 range if things go OK, we don’t have major injuries and our kids develop properly!
Tom my friend
ESPN’s predictions usually mean nothing, and most of them are just following the company line
I don’t really see us winning more than 27-30 games and I’m fine with that. i’d prefer a lottery pick instead of being into a fine paste in the first rd.
"No one stands on the top of the world. Not you, not me, not even gods. But the unbearable vacancy of the throne in the sky is over. From now on...I will be sitting on it."
by MrDollarBills on Aug 9, 2010 12:23 PM EDT up reply actions
"being beaten into"
"No one stands on the top of the world. Not you, not me, not even gods. But the unbearable vacancy of the throne in the sky is over. From now on...I will be sitting on it."
by MrDollarBills on Aug 9, 2010 12:26 PM EDT up reply actions
Make Sense.. This is What I Posted in the How Many Wins Post
I think over-exaggerated the number of wins the East will see
First off there are 15 teams, and I’ll assume the East will be comparable strength to the West (might be reaching) in which case, there will be 615 wins and 615 losses to account for.
Miami – 63
Orlando – 55
Boston – – 52
Atlanta – 50
Chicago – 50
Milwaukee – 48
Charlotte – 42
NY – 40
Detroit – 37
Philly – 35
NJ – 33
Indiana – 32
Toronto – 28
Cleveland – 26
Washington – 24
I know 33 seems disappointing to many but..
1. I think it will be a while to develop chemistry with all the new faces
2. It’s still nearly triple last year’s total
3. It should still land us a nice top 10 or better pick
4. A lot can change between now and the end of the season… I’m going by the roster now
5. Unless Favors develops fast not only do we have a hole at the 4, we should still be a poor rebounding team
by Jack Handy Jr on Aug 9, 2010 12:32 PM EDT up reply actions
dude if we got to 33 wins
that would be pretty good. from 12, to 33. Next season, another step up.
"No one stands on the top of the world. Not you, not me, not even gods. But the unbearable vacancy of the throne in the sky is over. From now on...I will be sitting on it."
by MrDollarBills on Aug 9, 2010 12:38 PM EDT up reply actions
33 seems a bit optimistic ...
still, stranger things have happened.
Even 27 is a bit optimistic.
"Everything looks nicer when you win. The girls are prettier, the cigars taste better. The trees are greener."
i disagree
This is NOT the same team or situation that produced 12 years.
I mean, we can’t even compare the situations
Making a prediction that the Nets can win 27 games seems balanced imo, you can’t expect them to be worse than last year, nor can you expect them to be destroying teams left and right because they are young, inexperienced, and will obviously take some lumps.
"No one stands on the top of the world. Not you, not me, not even gods. But the unbearable vacancy of the throne in the sky is over. From now on...I will be sitting on it."
by MrDollarBills on Aug 9, 2010 12:52 PM EDT up reply actions
auugh!
…i mean, “12 wins” not 12 years. Sorry.
"No one stands on the top of the world. Not you, not me, not even gods. But the unbearable vacancy of the throne in the sky is over. From now on...I will be sitting on it."
by MrDollarBills on Aug 9, 2010 12:52 PM EDT up reply actions
I kinda like that slip.
"...where they don't play with a shot clock." - C. Sager
by kv on Aug 9, 2010 12:53 PM EDT up reply actions
it felt like 12 years!!!!
"No one stands on the top of the world. Not you, not me, not even gods. But the unbearable vacancy of the throne in the sky is over. From now on...I will be sitting on it."
by MrDollarBills on Aug 9, 2010 12:55 PM EDT up reply actions
I know. That’s why I like it.
Gina yesterday on a post that we pretty complimentary said of TW, “he can hardly put the ball in the hope”. I liked that one too.
"...where they don't play with a shot clock." - C. Sager
by kv on Aug 9, 2010 12:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Scratching my head...
We have 10 new players on our roster, a new coaching staff ,and people are predicting how many games we’re going to win? Lets at least play a couple of pre-seasons games first.
I prefer to think about who we cannot, might and can beat in a series
Take out the anyone can beat anyone on any given day (ask the Celtics last year!).
We can not beat Miami, Boston, Chicago, Orlando, Milwaukee or Atlanta.
We might beat Charlotte, Indiana and Washington (this years big mover I think).
We can beat the others: Detroit, Philly, Cleveland, NY and Toronto.
Not certain how many games we will win (this could be a very top heavy year in the East with lots of big win teams and plenty of big loss teams) but I think our absolute magical year top side is a 7th seed (very unlikely) and our worst we should do is 10th in the East (finishing lower would represent failure).
What makes you think that we can’t beat Milwaukee?
"No one stands on the top of the world. Not you, not me, not even gods. But the unbearable vacancy of the throne in the sky is over. From now on...I will be sitting on it."
by MrDollarBills on Aug 9, 2010 2:28 PM EDT up reply actions
In my most optimistic moments I think we can beat Milwaukee and Atlanta
In my more realistic moments I think Bogut neutralizes our strongest on court asset in Brook. Their coach is as good as our coach (not many teams can say that in my opinion). So now you are back to the balance of the teams and while I think we have as good or better talent…..I think they will play good enough hard enough defense to stop us scoring over a series until we develop more scorers. I do think our current team has much more upside but not this year not yet.
that's a fair assessment
I do think that Milwaukee is better btw, but I think that we can compete and beat them in our head to head games though.
"No one stands on the top of the world. Not you, not me, not even gods. But the unbearable vacancy of the throne in the sky is over. From now on...I will be sitting on it."
by MrDollarBills on Aug 9, 2010 3:57 PM EDT up reply actions
how is 27 optimistic at all
i think that is what our record is if none of our new acquisitions work out, but hopefully most of them do and we stay healthy, if we stay healthy i see about 38-42 wins
stop comparing this team to last years team
ESPN predicted 27 wins, if it means anything (which it doesn't)
Consequences will never be the same.
by NetsMets4Life on Aug 10, 2010 1:13 AM EDT up reply actions
Yeah I don't see NY getting 40
Yeah they got Staudamire but they lost D-Lee and Harrington thats about 40 + points and 16 rebounds, that plus they play no defense, but we will see. I think Washington will win about 30, charlotte will take a step back 42 no.
@ Atronic, I totally agree bud!
I love how Amare is going to make the Knicks that much better. Unless Felton surprises and plays really well, Amare did not bring Nash with him for the ride. In addition, you are right, they lose Lee and Harrington. That was a lot of scoring and rebounding that Amare can’t make up himself.
LETS GO NETS!
Exactly!!!
The Knicks aren’t better. People think that Felton will be some sort of revelation. The same way people thought Duhon would run the system very well. Question still remains who rebounds for them? I think with Brook, TWill, Favors, James, Hump, Petro and now May we have better rebounders.
So I think we will be better there.
Charlotte is shaky at the point. I don’t see how they loose that starting point and stay the same or get better. I think Washington willl shock people. I see them as the 8th seed before I see the Knicks there. And let’s see how Amare responds to the loosing and booing.
The JETS/NETS are coming!
Again, These Numbers are Assuming the East is a .500 Conference
And equal with the West.
In actuality 2-3 wins can probably be shaved off per team.
by Jack Handy Jr on Aug 9, 2010 1:28 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, he has four teams ahead of us and the Hawks with 31 wins...
one with 32 wins and the Knicks grabbing the 8th seed with a whopping 37 wins. i hope he’s right cause the Nets will be a playoff contender…
I think the paragraph summary at the top should be updated.
May DID play more games last year (37vs 35), than any of his 4 playing years.
However, he played 2.5 times more minutes in his second year, 06-07, which was his best year: 12 pts. 6.7 boards in 24 mpg :
http://www.nba.com/playerfile/sean_may/career_stats.html
If May can average 6.7 boards per 24 minutes, that would be pretty good.
if he can give is 12 and 6 per
I’ll proclaim that Avery Johnson walks on water, and has the ability to rise from the dead
"No one stands on the top of the world. Not you, not me, not even gods. But the unbearable vacancy of the throne in the sky is over. From now on...I will be sitting on it."
by MrDollarBills on Aug 9, 2010 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions
"us"
"No one stands on the top of the world. Not you, not me, not even gods. But the unbearable vacancy of the throne in the sky is over. From now on...I will be sitting on it."
by MrDollarBills on Aug 9, 2010 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions
LMAO ''Riley devastated he had to settle for james''
"Everything looks nicer when you win. The girls are prettier, the cigars taste better. The trees are greener."
all we need is May, Petro, and Farmar in a version of
Consequences will never be the same.
by NetsMets4Life on Aug 9, 2010 8:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Maydar:
Guido: May seems like a “Chill Bro”
Jordan would never team up with Petro, Farmar.
Jay-Z to change name to May-Z
May on track to be new Old Spice Guy
I cannot stop laughing. Oh man.
Consequences will never be the same.
That is just a complete and total WIN
Consequences will never be the same.
by NetsMets4Life on Aug 9, 2010 10:01 PM EDT up reply actions
MIKE click on "Sean Maydar'
in the story about May signing. It goes to a page that’s made to look like May had a similar reaction as Lebron. funny as hell
Thanks djsupreme...
Brilliant… I wonder if Sean May has seen it. I think he would get a kick out of it. We should make big poster’s of it and bring it to the first home game or hand out copies to all Nets fans entering the arena. Of course that is if Sean makes the team.
forward it to his twitter
"No one stands on the top of the world. Not you, not me, not even gods. But the unbearable vacancy of the throne in the sky is over. From now on...I will be sitting on it."
by MrDollarBills on Aug 10, 2010 12:15 PM EDT up reply actions
Here is being very optimistic: I want to get the eighth seed in the playoffs! I miss going to playoff games. I think this squad with good coaching, huslte and defense can surprise some people. I would love to give Miami some fits in the playoffs.
LETS GO NETS!
Playoff experience is valuable for player development
and it is a motivator for the players to try to make the post-season. So what if we get smushed in the first round. I can’t get excited about “winning” a lottery pick. I think it is demoralizing and hurts player development.
not "that" Jersey Shore...Point Pleasant, 10 refreshing miles north of Seaside.
by John at the Jersey Shore on Aug 10, 2010 10:30 AM EDT up reply actions
I'm starting to agree with you guys...
Losing every year in hopes of grabbing the next “superstar” is like gambling and seems a lot like cheating. “Yeah i won $2500 last night, but I forget to tell you that I lost $10,000 the night before”. Lets play to win and let the chips lie where they will.
Getting the mess stomped out of us in the 1st rd....
“It builds character”
"No one stands on the top of the world. Not you, not me, not even gods. But the unbearable vacancy of the throne in the sky is over. From now on...I will be sitting on it."
by MrDollarBills on Aug 10, 2010 12:20 PM EDT up reply actions
Us guarding Miami’s big three:
Devin, Courntey and Terrence take turns on Wade.
Terrence, Damion James and Outlaw take turns on Lebron.
Brook and Favors take care of Bosh.
LETS GO NETS!
They can take turns all they want, but they'll all just end up taking turns being smoked (maybe Lee less so)
Brook can’t guard Bosh’s speed or shooting ability, but maybe Favors can
No one on the team (or the nba) has the size and speed combination to guard LeBron
Wade they might have better luck with, but he splits even double teams like they’re not there
Their averages against us last year:
Wade: 19 ppg 6 rpg 6.3 apg 2.7 spg 1 bpg 55.8% FG
LeBron: 27.3 ppg 6.3 rpg 9.8 apg 1.8 spg 0.8 bpg 53% FG
Bosh: 24 ppg 8.3 rpg 2.3 apg 0.7 spg 1 bpg 53.4% FG
Wade worries more than any of them
Wade is a relentless monster that does not stop hitting you until you’re dead
"No one stands on the top of the world. Not you, not me, not even gods. But the unbearable vacancy of the throne in the sky is over. From now on...I will be sitting on it."
by MrDollarBills on Aug 10, 2010 12:21 PM EDT up reply actions
HAHA exactly
I just hope he starts aging quicker I wanna see D-James get into Lebron, see T-will get into D-wade.
also
While I do not doubt that this Miami team will be beating the crap out of everyone, I refuse to give Chris Bosh as much props as I do Wade and Queen James.
Big Twin put the cuffs on Bosh in the playoffs. Bosh is faster, more skilled, and can jump higher than Collins, yet, Collins rendered him useless.
So if Miami reaches the finals, remember this when Bosh becomes quiet as a mouse with Andrew Bynum in his face. He will be shooting jumpshots, best believe it.
"No one stands on the top of the world. Not you, not me, not even gods. But the unbearable vacancy of the throne in the sky is over. From now on...I will be sitting on it."
by MrDollarBills on Aug 10, 2010 1:40 PM EDT up reply actions
I think that Baby Bosh....
Needs to be fouled quickly and fouled hard…..I would love to get Hassell back on the Nets and give him the official title of “The Enforcer”……He is very strong…….By the way ….LeFraud needs a good hard shot once in a while….His days of getting fouls called for him when someone breaths on him are over…….Let’s see what he’s got……
If some team is willing to trade for Jarvis Hayes...
We should be calling that GM frequently about other players on his roster. Good Lord…
www.twitter.com/robertjamis
for the record
Hayes is the only player the Nets have not renounced. They have renounced Quinn, Simmons and Boone.
They are hanging on to him because his cap hold is small ($2.4 million) and may have some value. Simmons, Boone, Battie (since signed by the Sixers to a guaranteed deal) had cap holds above $6 million.
So wait...
…if we were to renounce Hayes, would our cap room go up?? Or has that figure already been included when we say that the Nets have about 14-15 mil in room?
"No one stands on the top of the world. Not you, not me, not even gods. But the unbearable vacancy of the throne in the sky is over. From now on...I will be sitting on it."
by MrDollarBills on Aug 10, 2010 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm sure it was already included. Technically then, cap space is less than 12 million, not 14 million.
And if Sean May makes team, then Cap should be just over 13 million, because one way or another, Nets should have 15 roster players (the 1 million range always cited, represents Zoubek+Uzoh).
And if Sean May makes team, then Cap should be just over 13 million
And if you traded TW for Bass, and cut May, you would end up with the same approx figure.
"...where they don't play with a shot clock." - C. Sager
by kv on Aug 10, 2010 5:34 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't see the big deal that Nets had to renounce Boone, unless they were positive they didn't want him.
I thought a player such as Boone could have been renounced at a moments notice, if the Nets were going to pick up a new large contract?
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