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A NetsDaily translation of the full Forbes Russia interview with Mikhail Prokhorov reveals the team plans a name change once it moves to Brooklyn, and that in fact documents seeking approval for the change have been submitted to the NBA. He didn't disclose the name.

In the NetsDaily translation of the interview, provided by a Russian-speaking fan, Prokhorov is asked "What will be the team's name after the move to Brooklyn?" His response: "I can not tell you right now, but the documents are already submitted to the NBA office. The name change will happen in 2012 season."

The Q and A on the name change was not among excerpts released by the Nets last week. 

In other news from the interview, Prokhorov described the Nets' off-season acquisitions as "not bad" players who could become "tradeable assets"--unlike Amare Stoudemire; called the 2004 Pistons the Nets' current model; implied he might pursue Andrei Kirilenko when the Russian-born Jazz star becomes a free agent in July; agreed with David Stern on the need for dramatic changes in the collective bargaining agreement; admitted he may not exercise his option to buy up to 20% of Atlantic Yards and said the Nets "must" make the playoffs this season.

The full transcript, provided by "Ast", follows:

Star-divide

Q: When did you first think of buying an NBA club?
A: Our dreams began in 2003-2004 in the "kitchen talks" - it's cool to own an NBA club. They became real when we heard rumors that Cablevision, owner of MSG, Knicks and Rangers, was in dire financial strains. Some of our own financial bankers said that Cablevision will soon fall apart, and there will be a possibility of purchasing it.

Q: How did the Nets deal came about:
A: The same people told us. Called and said that there's availability of purchasing a club that's moving from New Jersey to New York. After that, (Bruce) Ratner visited Moscow. We talked with him about a deal.

Q: Did you get any other offers?
A: Understand that when you live in Moscow, you want a club that's located in a similar style of city. New York exhibits same energy as Moscow - you feel like you're in the same environment. I did not look at other places.

Q: Give us the details of the deal. There was a supposition that it was the real estate that was your primary target, and the New Jersey Nets was a burden you'd have to absorb.
A: When we were reviewing this project, we envisioned that the team, with right direction, is a business in itself. This is why our idea was to buy the team and enter the development project in parallel. We calculated that we need to own a part of the arena, where the team will play. This is why I own 45% of the Barclays Center. From the point of view of everything else - I have an option to buy 20% of Atlantic Yard project - honestly speaking, we looked at it, but as of it now did not research the option in depth. I do not know if we will exercise the options at this time.

Q: How did you manage to convince the league to (let you) buy the Nets? What's your trump card?
A: There was no trump card. That's an over exaggerated story. I have an absolutely see-through business - everything is sitting on web sites. It's easy to understand what I own. But when a first foreigner comes, obviously the news give greater attention to what happens. Any spoken word has high emotional interest. It's part of a game.

Q: When compared to other North American leagues, the NBA has the smallest number of new teams that win the championship. What can you and your new team offer the league, considering the reputation of Russian businessmen who take out their fat wallets and buy everyone and everything?
A: I told Americans that I came in peace, and I think, they believed me. In reality, I do not agree with their way how the same teams win over and over. The competition is very tough, but just like in any other business, a lot depends on the professionalism of the management. Take for example San Antonio Spurs. It's called the school of Gregg Popovich. They won 4 out of last 12 titles. But most importantly, he created a dynasty of managers and coaches. By the way, our coach that we hired also went through the Popovich school. Here is a blend of several factors. First, I think, we have the right strategy - we're the second team in New York. It's a huge metropolis - 26 million people. It's a huge amount of tourists. We're already very lucky that we got a team that's soon moving to New York. Basketball teams historically capitalize well. I am hoping that what I bought for $200M will be worth more than $1B in 5 years. We entered this deal in the precisely right time.

Second - you absolutely need professional management, from front office to the coaching staff. We have different variations. We simply need to find the best people and let them work. The goals we set previously do not change: Next season we must get into the playoffs.

Q: Are you not afraid of always following the Knicks' footsteps, just like it's happening in LA with Clippers and Lakers?
A: I think that the circumstances in Los Angeles are greatly different from the circumstances in New York. Brooklyn, say Americans, is its own separate country. It's the center of immigration. They have unique energy. Many millions of people who now reside in the USA went through Brooklyn. When I was in various cities, people came up to me and said: "We are Brooklynites, give us the Nets and we will cheer for them". I think that Nets have a unique chance of becoming an All-American team because many people went through Brooklyn. No other team has a fan club outside of their own state. I think we will be the first ones who will try to create fans across America. It will be a unique concept - a whole country of fans. In the first stage, we will be opening fan clubs in nearby states. This will be right and will strongly position the team.

Q: What will be the team's name after the move to Brooklyn?
A: I can not tell you right now, but the documents are already submitted to the NBA office. The name change will happen in 2012 season.

Q: How are you planning on financing the team?
A: The structure of the deal is that prior to the move to Brooklyn, we are planning a certain deficit - it's built into the deal. From the moment the team moves to Brooklyn, it will make money.

Q: How much income will it generate in 2 years?
A: About $20 million, that's a conservative estimate.

Q: Are you planning on going beyond the luxury tax line?
A: These are two different concepts - team generating money and whether or not I'm paying luxury tax. Many things can change with the new CBA. But am I not expecting to go over the cap.

Q: How did you choose the head coach?
A: We had several candidates, but we decided that Avery was the best one. First, he has the highest winning percentage in history of the NBA. Second, he's very hungry for big wins. We saw eye-to-eye with him there. Another important thing - because we have so many young players, we needed a "coaching coach", a coach who knew could develop young players into the next level. Avery is that coach.

Q: Legendary coach Phil Jackson, when asked about his jobs, said that the Nets may be an interesting project for him...
A: ... and that he really wants to drink some vodka with me. But I don't drink vodka, that where the problem is. Maybe that's why it didn't happen. By the way, it's another stereotype - if you're Russian, you're a drunk. We will be breaking the stereotypes.

Q: What stereotypes have you experienced from the league?
A: Don't know. I'm comfortable, never had a problem.

Q: For you, is this strictly a business project, or also an image [reputation]?
A: When you're talking about the business of sport, you're always mixing in some passion and love. This is exactly why you need to be extremely accurate, so your passion for basketball does not outweigh your business objectives. This depends on my own balance of interests. Here I will be judging myself very harshly.

Q: What is your strategy for building a championship team?
A: You can become a champion quickly - that's our plan A, or you can build one gradually, that's our plan B. Plan A implies getting one or two superstars - Lebron, Wade and/or Bosh. Also, from all the players who became agents, we were only interested in them. We started realizing this strategy early - clearing salaries. But even on July 3, I had an understanding that we needed to go for plan B - slowly, through five years of building a new team. In the current stage of the plan, we're taking "not bad" players, whom we can later trade. For example, someone like Amare Stoudemire, who went to play for the Knicks, would be very difficult to trade later - he makes $17 million. We want flexibility - we want strong players, but those that you can call "tradeable assets". This is why right now we're calmly executing our five-year plan. If we just needed a team that was one of the best five, the strategy would have been much simpler, but we wanted a championship team.

A good example - Detroit Pistons, 2004 champs. If you look at it, the team had no stars, but you had a star team. Our plan B resembles this model most closely. When we do not have extremely high salaries, but the players are matched well and is very deep, with a great bench.

Q: Yes, but every team in the league probably has this plan. What makes you think that you will succeed?
A: Why would you start it if you think it won't work?

Q: Detroit Pistons played a boring game. And a boring game means less fans, smaller TV ratings...
A: You're separating plan A and B. I do not have walls between the two models. In plan B, we grow megastars, and they start to develop the team by plan A. One does not exclude the other. When you're working in show business, of course you need stars. But everything is diffrent in a way. You can sell one star, or you can sell several people who are the stars when they are together.

Q: How did your negotiations with Lebron, Bosh and Wade go?
A: The meetings took place in Cleveland and Chicago. I met each player separately. We told each of them our vision. Chris Bosh for example, said our presentation was the most impressive. But when I analyzed their objectives, I understood that for all of them right now, the basketball part is the most important one. Even more so now that have a possible lock-out looming on the horizon. It seems that within these parameters, they wanted to play in Miami more, despite showing serious interest in our presentation.

Q: You're saying James, Bosh and Wade believe there will be a lockout. Do you believe this too?

A: It's difficult for me to tell. But we analyzed the concept of the league. if you look at the business structure of the NBA as a whole, it looks very strong and correct. But if you look at balance of clubs separately, then they all lose between $200-400M, and that can not happen for much longer.  It seems to me that current system does not accurately reflect reality. There's definitely something to discuss there.

Q: Did Jay-Z, Lebron's friend and your junior partner, try to help convince Lebron?
A: Jay-Z was with us, in his way. Him and Lebron have a normal friendship. He truly tried to help sell the team. But this is not a Russian or a European market, you have serious competition here. This is why I have higher enthusiasm. In a way, the road to the title does not go through one plan. We even have a "Plan C".

Q: And what does plan C include?
A: That's a secret right now. It's what you call "element of surprise from Russia". But right now we will not be using it, our plan B is successfully moving along.

Q: What did you tell superstars during your presentation?
A: We made a detailed presentation, starting with how the club will develop in the global economy to strictly basketball themes. We are planning on making the Nets the first global brand, using that I'm the first foreign owner of an NBA club. We want to create the same world wide fan clubs that exist for Manchester United and Real Madrid.

Q: Not really clear why I, who am in Russia, should cheer for New Jersey Nets?
A: Do you know what percent of people at stadiums are die-hard sports fans? 12% versus 88%. All others come there because it's cool and fun. Our objective is to attract this 88% - others will be there no matter what. This is why every separate country will sell their own story of the New Jersey Nets. If the NBA as a whole is a world brand, then right now there is no club in the league which lives by laws of a world brand. But they exist in soccer - Manchester United, Real Madrid. Chelesea is slowly walking the same path. Number of NBA viewers - 2 billion, ssoccers = 4 billion. Despite this, 20 years ago soccer had world-wide brands, and basketball didn't. Why can't the Nets become the first?

Q: In the next year ends the contract of Andrei Kirilenko, the only Russian player in the league. Are you going to ask him to join the team?
A: Let's wait until next year. Andrei is currently making $17 million.

Q: In general, you're aiming to save money when acquiring new players?
A: I'm aiming to pay their fair price.

Q: After your acquisition of an American basketball team, there was a lot of Russian criticism saying that you should have used this money to develop basketball in our own country.
A: One does not hinder the other, it's the other way around. You can hardly say that I have not been patriotic to our [Russian] sports: I've supported and will continue to support it. Besides biathlon, I have a working fund which supports young talented sportsmen. From the point of view of the NBA, we already said that we want to use experience and availability of certain technologies. Out of 100% of sportsmen who finish Russian basketball schools, only 1% end up next to a basketball. The other 99% go "into the sand". If we have a strong student league, there's a high chance that out of that 99% we will find good players. Owning an NBA team will give us a chance to move forward the system of preparing young players from the dead place where it's at now. We're severely lagging behind in developing basketball in youths and teenagers. It's not an accident that besides Kirilenko we do not have any other player who can play in the NBA.

Q: If in 5 years the market cap of the Nets hits $1billion as you expect, but the team does not win a championship and someone offers to buy the team from you, would you agree? Let's say I make you an offer.
A: Then make the offer right now. I'll only accept it right now.

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Keep it NETS

Dont care if its Brooklyn or New York Nets…Just keep it Nets please.

"I want to win, I want the team to win and I'm in complete control."
-Coach Avery Johnson.

by Andy. on Aug 7, 2010 10:02 AM EDT reply actions   1 recs

Must remain as Nets or else interest and fans would be lost.

It would be like an expansion team if name was changed.

However, as I understand they have to submit this request to cover themselves, in case they do wish to change the name later.

Also, almost any name they came up with would have problems.

by jerry25 on Aug 7, 2010 11:23 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

you are making a lot of sense Jerry25

and beginning to understand what I have been trying to get across for six years. Ratner and now Prokhorov to even another degree are trying to take the New York and New Jersey Nets and eliminate them from the face of the earth by creating a corporate wannabe Knicks expansion team in Brooklyn. This has absolutely nothing to do with the team we have all been coming on here to support in our own way for the past 6 years and for the existence of the team before that for however long we have been fans.

by IsaacNJN on Aug 7, 2010 12:21 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

It would seem that any name other that "The New Jersey Nets" would require submission of this document.

Maybe someone needs to check the details of the NBA regulations on changing the “location” vs. name of team. I think we were told there is a 13 month advanced time needed for a change in the name of team?

Also, it isn’t clear whether the document already submitted is required to “fill in the blank” for the new name of the team/location or can it just be left blank. Someone in the commissioner’s office should be able to answer that one.

Honestly, I think “NETS” is already a Global name, as nets are used around the whole world. By 2012 NETS will be a known brand name, as long as Nets make the playoffs. Winning is what counts.

by jerry25 on Aug 7, 2010 12:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Maybe he wants to name the team "The American NETS" which would by definition make them into a Global Team.

Does the NBA have something to prevent this from happening?

Remember the movie “Coming to America”?

Murphy: “I am a student”

Q: What should do you go to?

Murphy: “The University of the United States of America”

Q: Oh, I never heard of that one.

Murphy: “It is a SMALL University”.

(That is the best I can remember the dialogue).

by jerry25 on Aug 7, 2010 12:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

correction in first Q: “What school do you go to?”

by jerry25 on Aug 7, 2010 1:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

this is about a name change

not about a notice of a name change….

Maybe it’s New York Nets. Maybe it’s Brooklyn Nets, but maybe it’s something else.

if it was going to be the Nets, he could have said, they will be called the Nets.

by Net Income on Aug 7, 2010 1:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

I like Brooklyn Nets better than NY Nets

by Andres B on Aug 7, 2010 1:02 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

I like Brooklyn Nets better than NY Nets

by Andres B on Aug 7, 2010 1:03 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

i like NY nets better than brooklyn nets

by erock0517 on Aug 7, 2010 1:27 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Maybe something is lost in the translation and it is in fact, just a Notice to change name. Proky has said things that meant something else before.

Afterall, we have been told that name changes require lots of analysis and Proky seems to believe in careful analysis.

Two + full years advanced notice isn’t required, so unless it is the simple New York / Brooklyn Nets, I doubt if he would change the NETS name irreversibly, this far ahead of time.

by jerry25 on Aug 7, 2010 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

I like "New York Nets"

not sure if I like changing the name totally

"No one stands on the top of the world. Not you, not me, not even gods. But the unbearable vacancy of the throne in the sky is over. From now on...I will be sitting on it."

by MrDollarBills on Aug 8, 2010 9:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

Isaac, you may have been right on a lot...

but I hope not… Nothing personal. Just you being right would mean the true state of affairs is quite saddening.

by Paul G B on Aug 7, 2010 3:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

i'm sorry Paul G B

but sometimes the truth hurts. Ratner and Prokhorov never had us – the fans of the New Jersey Nets in mind. Only their own greed and now this team that we have all come to love and support is about to be eliminated from existence in favor of an expansion team in Knicks country. I tried to tell you all for six years that this would happen and now some of you are coming around to relaize the reality of this horrendous situation.

by IsaacNJN on Aug 8, 2010 1:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

it’s all business…

by kiemurphy on Aug 9, 2010 12:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think NETS works globally

He clear thinks Brooklyn has value so expect this somewhere in the formal name.

I think he will want to capture NY somewhere because this has instant global recognition and give him more hat/jersey options.

NETS works (I think) from a global context. People around the planet who know basketball will understand NETS. As will the 88% of casual fans who want to identify with a winner.

The Brooklyn NETS of New York City

by Jay-dub on Aug 7, 2010 11:35 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

the man with a plan

but i do hope he doesn’t go with the name change though

by atec on Aug 7, 2010 10:06 AM EDT reply actions  

The "name change" could be

Reference to being called Brooklyn or New York.

by Netted on Aug 7, 2010 10:10 AM EDT via mobile reply actions  

could be

but if that were so, why would he not reveal it…and simply say, it will be the “Nets”. It’s not as if he hasn’t raised the issue before. He has at least twice suggested he might change the name.

by Net Income on Aug 7, 2010 10:20 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

As to why he wouldn't reaveal,

as you’ve stated he wants a global team. He wanted the NY Knicks originally. There has been a lot of posturing calling the team the Brooklyn Nets in order to win community support for the project (including grand presentations at the ground breaking). So they may want to wait to reveal NY Nets. I would think the Knicks will also resist that name, so waiting for some league feedback makes sense before raising any alarms.

by Netted on Aug 7, 2010 11:12 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

There goes any chance at retaining what was left of the New Jersey fanbase

What I want to know is, if tehy were changing the name, WHY COULDN"T THEY KEEP “NEW JERSEY” on teh uniforms til the move?!!

by NJ4Life on Aug 7, 2010 10:21 AM EDT reply actions  

I just hope they keep the New Jersey Nets numbers retired

If they move to an altogether new identity, they might as well leave behind the retired jerseys. I hope they don’t do that.

Nets = Global
Knicks = Local

by BigTom on Aug 7, 2010 10:26 AM EDT reply actions   2 recs

I want the legacy of the New Jersey Nets to be carried forth into Brooklyn

and that includes keeping the numbers retired (#3, etc.) once we get to Brooklyn.

Nets = Global
Knicks = Local

by BigTom on Aug 7, 2010 10:28 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

how about the name BigTom?

I’d say that’s pretty important too or else this becomes a completely new franchise despite the move being only “fifteen miles away”.

by IsaacNJN on Aug 7, 2010 12:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well, my point is that

if they change the nickname to the Brooklyn Immigrants or something but retain the retired jerseys, at least they can claim they are remembering and honoring the legacy of the New Jersey Nets; if they leave behind the retired jerseys, then it’s a clean break and a altogether new organization.

Nets = Global
Knicks = Local

by BigTom on Aug 7, 2010 12:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

so hanging a few jerseys from the rafter is all you need even if the location and name of the team is different??? Aside from those jerseys, everything about the team we have supported will be gone.

by IsaacNJN on Aug 7, 2010 1:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

this...!

Q: And what does plan C include?
A: That’s a secret right now. It’s what you call “element of surprise from Russia”. But right now we will not be using it, our plan B is successfully moving along.

He is going to clone MJ!

by danxcr on Aug 7, 2010 10:30 AM EDT reply actions  

lol

If plan A is win quickly, and plan B is win gradually, I don’t see how there can be any other options, assuming he’s planning to win

by ddyyzz on Aug 7, 2010 10:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

Plan C

Winning hopefully!

by danxcr on Aug 7, 2010 10:51 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Could it involve thalium?

by ispartan on Aug 7, 2010 11:14 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

bad psychology

What is the message to newly signed players when you call the “not bad” and describe them as potentially “tradeable assets”…How does a team gel under an owner with that view? He just made Avery’s job harder….making them think team first. I don’t care for changing the team’s nickname name either…Nets works fine.

by MJa on Aug 7, 2010 10:41 AM EDT reply actions  

Agreed

And saying that the Nets “must” make the playoffs this year sounds like trying to hire Coach K as coach, landing LBJ as a free agent and putting up a snarky billboard with the new owner’s picture outside Madison Square Garden, only to take it down again a few months later. Is anyone else beginning to suspect that Proky is in over his head?

by jsg on Aug 7, 2010 11:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

Opposite

This is a guy clearly in full control. He is willing, able and prepared to put himself out front. What more could you ask of an owner. And he is a basketball junkie, world class CEO, billionaire…..I doubt he is in over his head.

Specifically as regards the billboard – it was awesome. An owner who is prepared to put his name and image on the line is perfect. And the deal was always (per NI) for one month. Building a dynasty is about creating an image and culture of winning – of always winning – of shooting for championship. In a league dominated by a handful of teams you are not going to break the mold by sneaking up on people.

by Jay-dub on Aug 7, 2010 11:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

I don't think he is in over his head

but I do feel like he is building too much hype.

  This team needs to go on a winning streak before we even dream about playoffs.

I seriously doubt that this team will be a playoff team this year. I personally feel we are two years away from that.

What has me confused that he is saying the players he signed are good trade able assets.

Which has me asking are we building a team or a package for a team.

I pretty much think he has acknowledge as everyone else has that no matter what big free agents will not see NJ or Brooklyn as an ideal destination so the only way to acquire a super star/stud is through a trade which is even more riskier because we run the risk of losing the player when he becomes a free agent.

Which makes me wonder what is the plan?

by killa kadafi191 on Aug 7, 2010 12:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

These guys all just moved - they made themselves "assets" and cashed in to the highest bidder.

They understand the business. Lying to them and suggesting they are all cornerstones to a dynasty without ever having played one game as a NET would be the greater wrong.

by Jay-dub on Aug 7, 2010 11:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

Granted

It is the nature of the beast that free agents sell their talents to a team. However, once they have signed, they then have to become part of that team. That means identifying with it, with their teammates, with team goals…It’s a mean trick to do this when your owner is talking about you as a commodity before you have played a single game. These are human beings we are talking about not nickel mines.

by MJa on Aug 7, 2010 12:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

"Fan clubs?"
I think that Nets have a unique chance of becoming an All-American team because many people went through Brooklyn. No other team has a fan club outside of their own state. I think we will be the first ones who will try to create fans across America. It will be a unique concept – a whole country of fans. In the first stage, we will be opening fan clubs in nearby states. This will be right and will strongly position the team.

Not sure what he means about Fan Clubs in nearby states. He make it seem like he’s opening up Dunkin Donuts or Subway franchises across the country. You can only establish these “All American” teams ala NY Yankees, DAL Cowboys, LA Lakers, etc. with winning titles…and A LOT of them!

I think he’s putting the cart before the horse on this particular idea but I like his general aggressiveness. Its not acceptitble to him to be the second team in town.

by Whoop Dee Damn Doo on Aug 7, 2010 10:59 AM EDT reply actions  

I got it!

 The Brooklyn Knicks! That’s SO Prokhy

by supernetsfan on Aug 7, 2010 11:00 AM EDT reply actions  

Well this is pretty much some of the worst news I have gotten as a Nets fan. A team name change is a serious change, its not just something small. Some of us have been attached to the “Nets” for the entirety of our lives.

I may be looking for a new team in 2 years.

by Tim823 on Aug 7, 2010 11:13 AM EDT reply actions  

NetsDaily would have to get a new name, Net Income would need a new handle. I don’t know, once everything is different, I don’t see a reason to continue to be a fan of the team, it is a different team, almost like an expansion franchise.

by ispartan on Aug 7, 2010 11:19 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

correct Ispartan

an expansion team would be the best way to describe it and in fact I have been for years on end now. The final shovel of dirt on the faces of Nets fanswould be removing the team name.

by IsaacNJN on Aug 7, 2010 12:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

most of us will Tim823

I think it just took some people longer to realize it – I knew it could come to this the minute Ratner was handed the team.

by IsaacNJN on Aug 7, 2010 1:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree with this, changing the name really might be the last straw. Granted this is coming from someone who has been hopeful that the team would remain in NJ, but I was starting to warm up to the idea of the new arena and larger national appeal in Brooklyn. I hope they don’t change the name Nets or I will probably be rooting for the 76er’s or Knicks.

by NJNETS29 on Aug 7, 2010 7:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Maybe not though, I hate both the Sixers and Knicks. I couldn’t see myself wearing one of those ugly blue and orange uni’s, never mind rooting for a perennial loser. And Philly as we all know is just uncivilized. I would feel awkward being so much smarter, classier, and more attractive than the other sixer fans. I guess if some of you guys joined me it wouldn’t be so uncomfortable though.

by NJNETS29 on Aug 7, 2010 7:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

this

mediocrity thy name is Wilpon- jdon

by Gina on Aug 8, 2010 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

I completely agree with Tim823/ispartan

This could be the last straw for me. If Newark somehow got a team after the move, I think I would immediately switch my loyalty.

by NJ4Life on Aug 7, 2010 11:21 AM EDT reply actions  

if Newark somehow got a team

almost all of us from Jersey would be in full support of it and despising Prokhorov’s team just as much as we do the Knicks.

by IsaacNJN on Aug 7, 2010 1:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

I will be in support of whoever wears the NETS on the front. I don’t care if they are in Seattle, or London.

by Tim823 on Aug 7, 2010 1:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

aw heck, why is Proky making us wait? He likes flash, so maybe New York Gold Bars? He has a big sweet tooth maybe cheesecake? He hardy posts any info about the team on his personal blog and his pr guys Igor and Andy directed posters on his company blog to this page but most people in russia can’t read english and they are really annoyed with MDP.

by kittyowl on Aug 7, 2010 11:26 AM EDT reply actions  

good interview

I just hope his expectations aren’t too high for this season. The Nets are still young give them two years before we start saying they must make the playoffs. Also we signing players who can later be traded?

That will probably not sit right with the players they just sign. As the whole Amare thing focus on the Nets. The Knicks did what work for them and we need to do the same thing

by killa kadafi191 on Aug 7, 2010 11:40 AM EDT reply actions  

Of course if it was "New York Nets"

he wouldn’t want that out either. Marty Markowitz would have a fit. Ratner would look like a fool. The critics would have an “I told you” so field day.

Then again, he spends a lot of time in his interview extolling BROOKLYN.

by Net Income on Aug 7, 2010 11:46 AM EDT reply actions  

There must be some way to let him know that people like the name?

by Tim823 on Aug 7, 2010 11:48 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Dmitry (co-owner in principal) and others supposedly read NetsDaily.

You just let them know hopefully.

And Proky has said how much he hears about Brooklyn when traveling in the USA.

by jerry25 on Aug 7, 2010 11:53 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Well Dear MR. Dmitry… Some of the fans are going to be fans from the old days. Some of us have Nets jerseys on the wall with the names of Irving, and Petrovic on them. NETS is on the front!

by Tim823 on Aug 7, 2010 12:54 PM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

Lowest Form of Life = Prokhorov

There goes any chance I would ever support this team in Brooklyn and I hope finally the long-time fans of this team feel the same. The New York and New Jersey nets are officially DEAD once this happens. It is an expansion team as was mentioned above – our entire history and all the years we put into this team will now be gone. I never thought it was possible but we actually found someone WORSE than bruce Ratner to run this team.

Prokhorov is a despicable excuse for a human being and this team is now a memory to me thanks to him.

by IsaacNJN on Aug 7, 2010 11:58 AM EDT reply actions  

and before you all go nuts...

I am referring to him in regards to sports related figures not comparing him to terrorists, criminals and people of the like. As far as people go in his line of work, he has established himself as the worst and has essentially destroyed any hope of us retaining the team we have loved and been loyal to all these years. He is a greedy pig and actually makes Ratner seem decent in comparision even if Ratner took the this team to the lowest possible level of performance imaginable due to his comparable greed.

by IsaacNJN on Aug 7, 2010 12:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

The team is still gonna be called the Nets so why fool yourself into thinking otherwise

by NetsAllDay on Aug 7, 2010 1:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Exactly Gizzy

and we should all be boycotting Brooklyn anyway but hopefully this will give those that weren’t planning on it a reason to. It’s not our team anymore – been trying to tell you this for 6 years and running now.

by IsaacNJN on Aug 7, 2010 12:01 PM EDT reply actions  

how many of you, 5?

good luck

-Say man when I was growing up we wanted a Jacuzzi, we had to fart in the tub.

by NetLogic on Aug 7, 2010 12:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

+100

I say 2 of em. The other 3 that show up with them to run the picketline will be buying tickets to go inside before the 2nd quater if they arent sold out.

The JETS/NETS are coming!

by MrBDown on Aug 7, 2010 4:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

It is 2 completely different things.

I don’t understand boycotting the team for a move away from a place where they could not make any money… It is important to be realists.

Abolishing our team is a different story than moving it a little bit in order to survive financially.

by Paul G B on Aug 7, 2010 3:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

What's the point of boycotting?

Do you think it could possibly prevent the move or the name change? If not, what’s the point?

not "that" Jersey Shore...Point Pleasant, 10 refreshing miles north of Seaside.

by John at the Jersey Shore on Aug 7, 2010 9:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

porky

is full of s…

In other news from the interview, Prokhorov described the Nets’ off-season acquisitions as “not bad” players who could become “tradeable assets”—unlike Amare Stoudemire

Then why offer carlos boozer 5 years 75 m……… right. nets couldnt land an all star so overpiad for role players. if he thinks petro, outlaw are tradeable assets he is crazy

by GALLO! on Aug 7, 2010 12:38 PM EDT reply actions  

Porky?

Nets = Global
Knicks = Local

by BigTom on Aug 7, 2010 12:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

lol

i cannot believe he is back. horrendous.

isola’s twitter “isiah thomas should consult walsh to sign jerome james” lollllolololol.

he was always still in the organization now it is just official, so it does really mean anything for now.

by GALLO! on Aug 7, 2010 12:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

uhhh

yeah. why else would he be officially back.

by GALLO! on Aug 7, 2010 12:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think Isiah must have something on someone...

…incriminating photos, tapes, something. Maybe he knows where the bodies are buried, if you know what I mean.

not "that" Jersey Shore...Point Pleasant, 10 refreshing miles north of Seaside.

by John at the Jersey Shore on Aug 9, 2010 4:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

i think its a good thing the nets didnt' get boozer...

Who knows..Outlaw might be real good for us…like i said before..I don’t like him that much as of this moment…but I think he play like Robert Horry with more hops.

by netsball on Aug 7, 2010 12:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

its not that he

is a horrible player, because he is not. its just 5 years 35 million was wayyyy to much to pay for him. he is a nice guy off the bench. nets needed a pf big time, carlos boozer is an all star.

by GALLO! on Aug 7, 2010 12:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah true..but I want Favors to get thrown into the mess ASAP so to have an on again off again

all star for 5 years taking all the minutes from him..would be a waste of time…

the worst situation in this league for a team is to have a borderline all star player or an all star player who isn’t a franchise type taking up most of the payroll.
Boozer isn’t going to get you championships or win playoff series for anyone..

The Nets need a superstar..they already have 2 boozer types in Devin and Brook

by netsball on Aug 7, 2010 12:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

100 million uninsurable...lol

You need to be the LAST person to mention overpay. You bidded against yourselves. The knicks past 10 years shoud be called CONTRACTS FROM HELL…LOL

The JETS/NETS are coming!

by MrBDown on Aug 7, 2010 5:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

It kills me to see a Knicks fan come on here and call us out for overpaying

How are we overpaying when we are 14-15 million UNDERNEATH THE CAP??

report this dude “Gallo” for trolling every time you see him folks.

"No one stands on the top of the world. Not you, not me, not even gods. But the unbearable vacancy of the throne in the sky is over. From now on...I will be sitting on it."

by MrDollarBills on Aug 8, 2010 9:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

they offered Boozer the big bucks

they didn’t offer Amare a contract, and neither did any team (at least not a contract anywhere near worth the money the Knicks gave him=. What does that tell you? FWIW, I like Amare.

by Andres B on Aug 7, 2010 12:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

who

doesn’t? he is a five time all star, all nba, etc……..

by GALLO! on Aug 7, 2010 12:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Only 5 times? you sure about that?

by Tim823 on Aug 7, 2010 12:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

I thought we were talking about STAT

by Tim823 on Aug 7, 2010 1:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

STAT

is a 5 time all star

by GALLO! on Aug 7, 2010 1:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Randolph is the real “STAT.” Contributes in every single category.

by Tim823 on Aug 7, 2010 1:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

NETS BLOG

Why is this even allowed here? I went over to the Knicks blog and they trashed us unrelentingly as soon as one person defended he was warned. How does this happen.

And Randolph is just an ok player. Man a youtube dunk reel does alot huh. I think i have a reel of me dunking on my nerf hoop as a kid i was unstoppable.
And this is what you LOST.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iPN8G9cBIco&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wK8hR7BnGrE

You overpaid and will get less….lol

The JETS/NETS are coming!

by MrBDown on Aug 7, 2010 5:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

flag him dude

"No one stands on the top of the world. Not you, not me, not even gods. But the unbearable vacancy of the throne in the sky is over. From now on...I will be sitting on it."

by MrDollarBills on Aug 8, 2010 9:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

Randolph is a known commodity. He played 22 min a game last year and average 11 and 6. Thats what he is, an 11 and 6 rotation player. With the Knicks add 8 minutes a game and the D’antoni factor and you have 13-14 and 7. Congratulations on signing Anthony Randolph.

by NJNETS29 on Aug 7, 2010 7:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Speaking of Boozer, Thorn (Nets) was obviously prepared to sign Boozer, but now Proky seems to be trying to deny this as not being part of Plan A or B.

What ever happened to that “leak” of Proky’s notes saying that either Boozer of DLee would be a Net if the Big Three failed?

Too bad that question wasn’t brought up?

by jerry25 on Aug 7, 2010 1:09 PM EDT reply actions  

thats

what i said.

he is trying to cover it up that the nets did not fail this offseason. he is trying to spin their signings to make them actually look good.

by GALLO! on Aug 7, 2010 1:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

No matter what Proky thinks

or anyone else. The Nets not landing or Boozer and D.Lee is a success to me. why wouldnt it be? Paying that much money would of been dumb

by nwkiddnj on Aug 7, 2010 1:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree with not getting Boozer (bad chemistry), but not DLee (good Chemistry), steal away Knicks fans and make playoffs every year, while still having room for Favors.

I am on record for Rejecting Proky’s stated prediction of Nets winning a championship.
I would settle for a Top Five Team, like the Dallas franchise has been.

Reaching for the Stars, and falling well short, will not be pleasant.

Proky will lose his bet, and be married in 5 years anyway. By then he will be a Global Icon, worth over 50 billion USD and will “laugh off” not winning a championship. Nets fans (if that is still their name), won’t be laughing.

Maybe another David Lee will come along, before his price tag rises. Kevin Love may be that individual, but it appears to be too late, now that Khan has traded away Al Jefferson.

Could TWill for Kevin Love be possible? Khan is unpredictable.

by jerry25 on Aug 7, 2010 1:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

DLee cost way to much

If we are trying to build young and build through the draft we are going to need that money to resign guys we already have and if a Superstar comes along we wont beable to nab him because we would have DLee. Im not worried about battling the Knicks they have been a joke for the past 10 years why are we worried about them. Im worried about the Heat,Lakers and Magic not the Knicks

by nwkiddnj on Aug 7, 2010 2:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Because the Knicks still will own the fan base, regardless as to how bad they are, and that trend could have been reversed with David Lee's help.

And Nets would have been en route to a top 5 team with the signing of DLee, combined with some luck with the development of young players – Favors, James and TWill, in particular.

Nets could have re-signed current players without consideration for salary cap, unless CBA is changed.
And its better to get a player – BEFORE they become a Star or a very good player. For example, I wanted to go after RLopez last year, when his value was low.
Someone like Kevin Love could might become a future star.
Yi for Noah was mentioned a couple of years ago, when Noah’s value was low.

Addition of one of these type of players over the next couple of years could have accomplished the realistic goal of becoming a top 5 team, if the Nets already had DLee.

Winning a championship, just isn’t realistic. Proky will be married long before that happens.

by jerry25 on Aug 7, 2010 6:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

One thing this interview proves, is that Proky is a lot more Basketball competent than DaveD. gave credit.

And the name of this topic should be changed, as it involves way more than the name of the team.
This topic should be put to the top of the list for the next 4-5 days to cover all the sub-topics.

Besides, Proky never said “NO” to the name Nets or the name Brooklyn.
We have no idea if he has picked out a new name for the location or team.

However, we did learn that nothing will happen until 2012.
I had thought it would be a good idea to consider a name change earlier that 2012.

Perhaps name the team New Jersey/Brooklyn Nets while playing in Newark. That would both appease the New Jersey fans and at the same time, market the Brooklyn name to see if it “takes”.

Also, the media are having a lot of fun making jokes about “Newark”. Renaming the team now, would ease those jokes, which I believe have hurt during free agency. Apparently that won’t happen, so the media will continue to use the name:
THE NEWARK NETS in an attempt to belittle the franchise.

by jerry25 on Aug 7, 2010 1:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Isiah Thomas to serve as Knicks’ consultant....

Let me take this opportunity to dump a pile of steaming poop on Isiah Thomas. HE is the reason I stopped being a Knicks fan. He is a Pompous, Egotisical A_______e. He must get along great with James Dolan, who is also a P E A. Isiah Thomas has reuined every organization that he was a part of running. I wouldn’t allow him to recruit free agents for my lemonaide stand team, let alone manage anything I own. I have a mother, a 23 year old daughter and even had a wife, and the way he treated and then got sued by that woman Knick exec mad me sick.

Paul from Delray Beach

by PaulErstein on Aug 7, 2010 1:12 PM EDT reply actions  

Are you guys serious?

A team changing its name and re-locating 12 miles is enough for you to stop rooting for the team?

Comical.

Promoting a grenade-free America.

by NBRITM on Aug 7, 2010 1:13 PM EDT reply actions  

I’m just against name change. I’m attached.

by Tim823 on Aug 7, 2010 1:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

It is no longer the same team so therefore I become a free agent fan. Maybe I will root for Brooklyn, maybe not. But it is definitely not comical.

by ispartan on Aug 7, 2010 5:18 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

we can start a facebook group and hope to be wooed by NBA teams trying to lure us to their side,

I fear I may end up a Warriors fan… Liked the Ultimate Warrior when I was little.

by Paul G B on Aug 7, 2010 5:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

for real

I’m not keen on the name change, but whatever

I’m sure there are people in Seattle that are die hard Thunder fans

at least our team will be in the area.

"No one stands on the top of the world. Not you, not me, not even gods. But the unbearable vacancy of the throne in the sky is over. From now on...I will be sitting on it."

by MrDollarBills on Aug 8, 2010 9:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

Dollar Bills -

your lack of loyalty to anything related to the New Jersey Nets is quite saddening. You are passionate and largely knowledgable fan (except when it comes to RJ) and yet you have given up on anything rleated to this team and its history and instead have been brainwashed to think Prokhorov is the solution to the world’s problems.

by IsaacNJN on Aug 8, 2010 1:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Isaac

Maybe because I realized awhile ago that there is nothing I can do about it

I can’t stop Prokho from moving the team to BK.

I can’t stop them from changing the name

I mean, it is what it is. They’ll still be the Nets to me regardless, but you need to understand that while I may except change, I don’t necessarily agree with it or like it.

"No one stands on the top of the world. Not you, not me, not even gods. But the unbearable vacancy of the throne in the sky is over. From now on...I will be sitting on it."

by MrDollarBills on Aug 8, 2010 6:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

changing the name is kind of spitting the entire history

like saying the nets name isn’t good enough. moving 12 miles is irrelevant, it’s the idea of changing the identity. At some point there’s a line where it goes from the same team with a new image to basically an entirely new team.

mediocrity thy name is Wilpon- jdon

by Gina on Aug 8, 2010 2:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

I hope we stay the NETS

I don’t care if we are the Brooklyn Nets, New York Nets, or Mikhail’s Nets…I just want to be the Nets.

by NetsKiNG on Aug 7, 2010 1:18 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

Proky clearly regards the Nets remaining time in NJ as a holding action,

just as Ratner did when he brought the team with the intention of moving it to Brooklyn. Remember that no one came forward to buy the franchise and keep it in NJ, which allowed Ratner to claim it by default. Remember also that Proky is said to have first wanted to buy the Knicks but was rebuffed by Dolan. So it’s hardly surprising that Proky is now turning his back on a NJ fan base whose overall lack of enthusiasm for the team has led to huge losses. Whether the team can in fact turn itself around on the court under Proky’s ownerships is an open question, but the Nets’ off-season moves don’t seem to point to a huge improvement.

by jsg on Aug 7, 2010 1:18 PM EDT reply actions  

2,200 new season tickets

Prokhorov is paying $4 million to move the team from the God-awful ISAAC Bowl in East Rutherford to the second newest arena in the NBA. He is also spending a considerable amount of money upgrading the player amenities, including the new locker room….

I don’t recall Ratner doing anything like that.

by Net Income on Aug 7, 2010 1:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

ISAAC Bowl

Ouch, ISAAC Bowl, how you going to respond to that isaacNYN

by Yi Of Little Faith on Aug 7, 2010 1:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Point taken

Ratner did nothing but strip things down.

by jsg on Aug 7, 2010 3:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

more completely irrelevant "facts" Net Income

and again I ask you – if those 2200 new season ticket holders in NEWARK excites you so much, why would you possibly be pushing Brooklyn any longer if you didn’t work for these crooks?

by IsaacNJN on Aug 7, 2010 7:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think what Isaac

and these few other whiny New Jersey uber loyalists don’t realize is that without Ratner and now Proky, they wouldn’t even have the option of continuing to root for this team as it moves just a short drive or subway ride away. Without these guys, The Nets would already be in Oklahoma city or Charlotte or some other NBA backwater. Despite a small loyal fanbase, Jersey as a whole has never supported the nets. Lets face it, horrific Knicks teams sell out every game. Championship Nets teams can’t give away a ticket in NJ. That’s not a fanbase that needs to be catered to. The new owners know that they will have to build a fanbase essentially from scratch. Any Jersey fans that stick around will just be icing on the cake that they are trying to bake.

by The Pearl on Aug 7, 2010 2:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

If the team stinks it won't be much of a cake,

and all that really matters is what Proky & friends can put on the court.

by jsg on Aug 7, 2010 3:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

your right Pearl

we are nuts to being loyal towards where our team has played for 30 years and that we want the name of that team to remain the same and that we see a move in location and a change in name as an entirely new team. What a CRAZY concept!!! What don;t you understand? We are having our team taken away from us and you bandwaggoners in Brooklyn still seem to think this is fair.

by IsaacNJN on Aug 7, 2010 7:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's not our team, it's just entertainment.

I will enjoy following the Brooklyn Scumbags (or whatever) as much as I do the NJ Nets. This life-or-death stuff is over the top.

not "that" Jersey Shore...Point Pleasant, 10 refreshing miles north of Seaside.

by John at the Jersey Shore on Aug 7, 2010 10:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

The most important message from Proky, for the coming months should be Making The Playoffs, which some fans disagree with.
“Next Season We Must Get Into The Playoffs.”

This should be a topic unto itself, and be repeated every week once the preseason begins.

What that statement means is that Avery/King are required under Russian Law from above, to make the team better than it is now (clearly NOT a playoff team).

It means that the cap space WILL almost certainly be used to accomplish that goal – hopefully with retention of at least 15 million at the end of the season.

by jerry25 on Aug 7, 2010 1:30 PM EDT reply actions  

i don’t see this is a topic. He thinks we should make the playoffs. That’s it. End of topic.

by Tim823 on Aug 7, 2010 2:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

he

also thinks….

petro and outlaw are tradeable assets……..

by GALLO! on Aug 7, 2010 3:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

We Shall see

All this speculation from Knicks fans…lol. It’s NOT poppin over there either. Unless your talking about falling debree and Rat Droppings. And that may very well describe the players over there….lol

The JETS/NETS are coming!

by MrBDown on Aug 7, 2010 5:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

i don't understand the urgency about making the playoffs

some folks want to get taken to the woodshed by Miami in a first rd drubbing

Me? I’d prefer another lottery pick to add to this already nice collection of young talent.

"No one stands on the top of the world. Not you, not me, not even gods. But the unbearable vacancy of the throne in the sky is over. From now on...I will be sitting on it."

by MrDollarBills on Aug 8, 2010 9:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

Def

New York Nets is better.

AP

by MADMAN ADAM on Aug 7, 2010 1:31 PM EDT reply actions  

My Favorite "name" Idea was when Prok suggested he might name the

Team after his Russian girlfriend (a word nobody understands), and change the name every time he changes his girlfriend. The guy has a sense of humor, that’s for sure.

"...where they don't play with a shot clock." - C. Sager

by kv on Aug 7, 2010 2:10 PM EDT reply actions  

name change?

Remember when this guy changed his name.

How’d that work out for you Prince?

by aunt-B on Aug 7, 2010 2:15 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

game

blouses

mediocrity thy name is Wilpon- jdon

by Gina on Aug 8, 2010 2:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

who remembers Vince Carter's game winning reverse dunk vs. Toronto?

Reminds me of the end of the Chappelle show “Prince can really play ball, yo” sketch with the way he hung on the rim, just looking at the opposition in sheer disgust

"No one stands on the top of the world. Not you, not me, not even gods. But the unbearable vacancy of the throne in the sky is over. From now on...I will be sitting on it."

by MrDollarBills on Aug 8, 2010 6:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

I believe the naming decision is in reference to the locational part of the name. If it were the “Nets” part, I’d assume Prokhorov would be running at least a handful of names by those in and out of the Nets’ inner circle, a process that would surely leak to the beat writers. Also, if they were trying out names, NBA teams have historically asked for fan input when renaming their franchises and for an owner who preaches fan interaction, hard to imagine he wouldn’t at least run choices by public focus groups.

Didn’t Net Income previously say that a name change would have to be filed by October? If my argument in the previous paragraph is valid, then it would appear that the “Nets” part of the franchise would remain intact.

by Accelerate on Aug 7, 2010 2:25 PM EDT reply actions  

I like New York Nets better than Brooklyn Nets

I mean, that was the original name in the first place was it not? For all the whining about how the Nets are leaving New Jersey, lost is the fact that they came from New York in the first place at the very origins of the club

by muwu on Aug 7, 2010 2:51 PM EDT reply actions  

My possible names are more accurate

They also describe the work being done to make the move possible.

by Tal Barzilai on Aug 7, 2010 5:28 PM EDT reply actions  

I've actually got a NY Nets cap

and I’m all for NJ, but I love that thing. I’ve also got a custom BK nets hat.

by NJ4Life on Aug 7, 2010 5:41 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

I just bought a retro Expos cap

I’m a big fan of fitteds, even though I only own a few. I am sure to buy the new cap in 2012.
And if you are a baseball fan, I suggest looking at Minor League Caps. They have some bad ass logos.

Consequences will never be the same.

by NetsMets4Life on Aug 7, 2010 5:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Here's what I don't understand

they’ve been HEAVILY marketing this team, and since they no longer use “New Jersey” everything has been Nets, Nets, Nets. If you start to establish a brand, wouldn’t it be counterintuitive to change your brand name? It’s how your consumer identifies you.

by NJ4Life on Aug 7, 2010 5:40 PM EDT reply actions  

Which is a good argument why this will probably become a Non-Story. Yormarket and Proky believe in test marketing.

Nets is already a good Global name and with “Net” sounding like “Nyet”, it makes sense to continue with the name.

If Yormarket had already submitted a New name for the team, we wouldn’t be hearing the Nets Brand being pushed so hard at this time.

by jerry25 on Aug 7, 2010 6:17 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Nyet is russian for "no"

or “nothing.” do you really think they would want to keep the name Nets because it sounds like the word for “nothing?” The New York Nothings does have a nice ring though.

by Taylor Bartle on Aug 9, 2010 3:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

i still look at the wizards as being the baltimore bullets, but they really should have kept their name.

by shane gayle on Aug 7, 2010 5:43 PM EDT reply actions  

The Media would have had a field day with Gibert if they were still called The Bullets

But I still agree. Much cooler logo. I wanna buy a cap of theirs.

Consequences will never be the same.

by NetsMets4Life on Aug 7, 2010 5:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

BROOKLYN NETS!

NY Nets is before my time but I love hearing about Doc, Brian Taylor, Super John, Special K, the Whopper, and in even their post-ABA days of Bubbles and Tiny A.

For all the bad times NJ Nets still had moments. Not just the Kidd Generation but Buck, Dawkins, G-Man, even Sugar and if you wanna really go back Crazy Mike Newlin.

Losing all of that history, including Drazen, the original Petro, and more importantly, the NBA’s first international Superstar for ANY new name would be as dumb as the Swamp Dragons saga of the mid 1990s.

Whether it be Commack, West Hempstead, Uniondale, Piscataway, East Rutherford, Newark, or Brooklyn, it must ALWAYS be the N-E-T-S, nets, Nets, NETS!!!

"Proky is NBA dumb!"

by J-Sal on Aug 7, 2010 6:16 PM EDT reply actions  

Im shocked

Of all the talk that Everyone will betray the Nets if they change there name
To me i would love a new name i know we had lots of history with the nets but whats wrong with a change?
Does Nets sound sexy to anyone not to me Knicks Magic Lakers Celtics Heat does sound sexy,
i dont care if they keep nets or go to something else i will never betray the future Nets in NY i will always love the Nets and even if a new team comes to newark i will never support that team, Nets FOREVER

"Avery Johnson: Erase to Replace"

Wall2KingJames to JamesSucks

by Wall2KingJames on Aug 7, 2010 6:41 PM EDT reply actions  

you just totally contradicted yourself Wall2

by saying nets forver after procliaming you don;t care if they keep the name. What don’t you understand? If the name is no longer Nets and they don’t play in New jersey, they are essentially an expansion team, so Nets forver would certainly not apply to that team.

by IsaacNJN on Aug 7, 2010 7:12 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

Not to mention the sexy bit...

I stopped reading after the Knicks sounds sexy bit.

"Proky is NBA dumb!"

by J-Sal on Aug 7, 2010 11:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hmmmm the more I read this article

the more I wonder did Proky prepare for this?

Now that he knows that the big free agents are not impressed by a billionaire or the allure of global recognition .

I mean that pretty much all he could sell. So now he has accept that he will have to trade for a player that he can hope that wants to remain with the team

by killa kadafi191 on Aug 7, 2010 7:29 PM EDT reply actions  

WE ARE THE NETS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! No way we should change our name! Please, keep our team the NETS!

LETS GO NETS!

by JustinNJ on Aug 7, 2010 8:58 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

Our fanbase is still in the tri state area, which includes the potential move to Brooklyn. There is NO need to change the name of the franchise that we all have been supporting for decades. The fanbase will still be the same even if we do add a couple of bandwagon Brooklyn residents. The only time you should consider a name change is when you are moving to a whole different region of the country, such as, the Sonics did when they moved to Oklahoma City.

LETS GO NETS!

by JustinNJ on Aug 7, 2010 9:04 PM EDT reply actions  

Swamp Dragons, Swamp Dragons!

Hey guys and gals, a rose is a rose. I stayed a Nets fan when we moved to NJ, and if you want to jump ship for name or location changes, go ahead. Just try to keep down the whining on the way out the door because nobody cares. A couple of points on the interview:

1. He says we need to make the playoffs “next” season. Is that different from “this” season? I would hope so, ‘cause no way we’re making the playoffs this season, but next season is more than a reasonable goal at this point. Any Russian scholars out there? We need a better translation.

2. It isn’t clear that the name change filed with the league office refers to the Brooklyn/NY thing or the Nets moniker. He makes a big deal about the Brooklyn association, so that seems like a done deal. But changing the Nets name isn’t specifically mentioned. At least it can’t be Swamp Dragons.

3. This 12:88 devoted fan ratio thing is a bit insulting in that he takes us 12 percenters for granted. We’ll be there no matter what, huh? Well, insulting or not, he’s right. I put up with 30+ years of disappointment in an actual stinkin’ swamp and am still here posting.

4. A little touchy on the Phil Jackson thing, no? I think Phil’s point was he’d like to socialize with you, not watch you drink, Mikhail. He’d probably prefer to do shrooms, but maybe I’m just stereotyping Deadheads.

5. So is it the Pistons or the Spurs model? I think we are going to model the Spurs management but don’t get a Tim Duncan. Do we then need a Sheed? Ah well, never mind, we are going to plan C if Avery doesn’t make the playoffs next season, whenever that is.

It’s all new and just slightly clearer than mud. And we’re down so far, it seems like a breath of fresh air. You don’t have to be jaded to be excited about how it all will turn out, but it sure helps.

by jabez on Aug 7, 2010 11:07 PM EDT reply actions  

Nice Post

Always good to read from a long term fan who can put the current issues in perspective.

One comment – I think we need to read the article understanding that Proky was talking to his fellow Russians. I respect the fact that he pushes the “look I am a Russian and I do not walk around drunk with a bottle of vodka in my hands all day” message whenever he can. He wants to be a global businessman but also a social leader in Russia – good for him. Dont read to much into it as we were not the target audience for the message.

by Jay-dub on Aug 8, 2010 12:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

This is BS first they wanna move the team to BK, then they wanna remove anything “New Jersey” related from the team and only referencing them as “Nets” but now a name change? Imagine if some jackass decided to buy the Yankees and move them to Newark and rename them the New Jersey Cats, what would it matter it’s just a hop and skip away from NY right?

Why should NJ fans be satisfied because it’s in NY? Being in NJ is what made this team unique in the first place, a team representing OUR home state and not NY or Philly. This team hasn’t had the best history but we have had some success, whether in the early 80’s with Buck Williams and Michael Ray Richards, or the early 90’s with Drazen, Derrick Coleman, and Kenny Anderson or the Kidd era with Martin, RJ, Kittles, KVH, VC and Krstic. WE HAVE HISTORY. Now you move them away and change the team and all that is gone. But only the fly by night Brooklyn supporters dont give a damn.

Just when this team was starting to build up it’s fanbase, that jackass Kats sold the team to Ratner who went on to destroy everything and turn off all potential fans.

by Eddymac on Aug 8, 2010 11:45 AM EDT reply actions  

+ 10,000,000 Eddymac

The best post on this site in a very long time. You have completely hit the nail on the head and you are absolutely a true New Jersey Nets fan. I don;t know where most of the people on this site came from but they aren;t the people we have been going to Nets games with all these years that had some loyalty and took pride in the team being the underdogs from New jersey not some corporate Knicks wannabee expansion team that Ratner and Prokhorov have been building towards in Brooklyn.

The people that run this site which just happened to start right around when Ratner took over have loyalty only to the brooklyn move and have ridiculed people like you and me for too long. Unfortunately others that support the team in New Jersey gave up on this site long ago so we are left to be shouted down but I encourage you to please post more and to let our voices be heard.

Well done my friend, well done.

by IsaacNJN on Aug 8, 2010 1:04 PM EDT reply actions  

I appreciate it Isaac however you must remember all this wouldn’t be happening if Kats had sold the team to Corzine’s team of investors instead of Ratner. So although I hate Ratner I hate Kats even more.

by Eddymac on Aug 8, 2010 1:53 PM EDT reply actions  

at Eddymac

I understand your anger towards Katz – you also have to udnerstand that a lot went on behind closed doors to make sure Ratner won the bid over the Jersey investment group, stuff you will never hear about from Net Income or anyine else on this site. Stern fell in love with the idea to move the team to Brooklyn and the league office was highly in favor of the Ratner-group winning. The two groups essentially bid the same amount and yet Ratner’s group was magically handed the team – almost certainly in part because the league wanted it to go down that way. Had the Jersey group won, the team likely would have moved to Newark in 2007 when the Prudential center opened and Kidd probably never would have forced his way out. Those that claimed on here the team would have been moved across the country had Ratner not won the bid have absolutely no basis of fact on that matter.

by IsaacNJN on Aug 8, 2010 5:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Originally

originally it was th New York Americans, then the New Jersey Americans, then the New York Nets, then the New Jersey Nets…

the Nets came about when they were in Long Island as kind of a gimmic to rhyme with Mets and Jets…

I have no point.

by kiemurphy on Aug 9, 2010 12:49 PM EDT reply actions  

if they want to change the name...

they should leave the history behind so if NJ gets another team in Newark, they can be the Nets

by Taylor Bartle on Aug 9, 2010 6:17 PM EDT reply actions  

unfortunately we have very little chance of getting another team in Newark or anywhere in New Jersey otherwise I would wholeheartedly agree that we should reserve the rights to keep the name New Jersey Nets for a new team. The reality is most likely that the Brooklyn team is the only one that could carry on the name Nets and it looks like Prokhorov will not let that happen.

by IsaacNJN on Aug 10, 2010 1:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

what makes you say that?

There are lots of teams in financial strain and possibly for sale. The Grizzlies, Hornets, Kings… Newark has a sparkly new arena, unlike Seattle. I’d say Newark, KC and St. Louis would be the 3 most desirable destinations assuming ownership groups could be found.

by Taylor Bartle on Aug 10, 2010 12:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Stern does not want a team in Jersey

That much is obvious. He has done everything he could to keep the Brooklyn move in play een when the project was on life support. He stood by as a guy like Ratner bought into his league with the sole intention of stripping down what had become an NBA Title contender so he could save some money for a move he had planned to make happen 3 years ago (yes – he originally said the arena would be in operation by ’07).

So it is extremely unlikely that Stern – the “Jersey guy” himself would ever let another of his franchises relocate to Newark.

by IsaacNJN on Aug 10, 2010 2:14 PM EDT reply actions  

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