More Rumors, No Action on 'Melo
by Net Income on Aug 30, 2010 7:44 AM EDT
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PrintExpect another week of Carmelo Anthony rumors. The latest, which emerged over the weekend, is that the Nuggets prefer to send 'Melo to the Nets, Timberwolves or Kings because those three have the most of what they want in return: young players, draft picks (and rights) and either expiring contracts or a large trade exception.
Of course, the three teams also had the three worst records in the NBA last season, with 12, 15 and 25 wins. That's leading some to suggest the rumor was put out by the Nuggets as a "be careful what you wish for" warning to Anthony. 'Melo of course has his own leverage: he can tell a prospective team he won't sign an extension with them, dramatically reducing his value.
Still, according to (unconfirmed) reports, only one team is on both the Nuggets' list of teams they'd like to deal with and Anthony's list of places he'd be willing to land--and sign that extension. That team is the Nets. In a series of tweets, Al Iannazzone lays out the possibilities, including one that the Nuggets may want to add Kenyon Martin to their side of the deal.
- Anthony joining Nets, Kings, Timberwolves? - Mark J. Miller - Yahoo! Sports
- Nuggets target 3 teams for Anthony trade (Video) - Sean Deveney - Sporting News
- A Message To Carmelo? - Bill Ingram - HoopsWorld
- Patience a must in Nets' pursuit of Carmelo Anthony - Greg Hrinya - Examiner
- The Gambler - Daniel Leroux - RealGM
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MAN!!!!
We better not gut the team for this dude. although you have to give value to get it I hope the deal is reasonable….I also think he’s coming to the nets
Agree
I concur, I DO NOT want the Nets to jump the gun and give away the core of the team for Melo. As I have said 100 times before, we cannot deal Brook Lopez. Give the Nuggets draft picks, cash, Favors, Murphy, and if we have to either Harris or Twill…but Lopez has to remain a Net! If Carmelo tells a prospective team that he will not sign the extension the leverage totally shifts and if the Nets offer a somewhat decent package (pause) we might land Carmelo. I think he will tell the Kings and Wolves he will not after this season. The Nets could try a lowball offer with Favors as the main part of the deal. If we could get Carmelo Anthony for Favors, a few other players and picks it would be epic!
"ESPN greenlights 'The Decision' for 22 more episodes."
by DrazenPetrovic on Aug 30, 2010 9:47 AM EDT up reply actions
offering Favors, the #3 pick in this year's draft
is NOT Lowballing.
In fact, Favors should be off of the table. We want to construct a contender, not a middle of the pack team. No Lopez, no Favors.
Williams, James, a number of 1st and 2nd rd picks, expirings, and cash is more than enough compensation for Carmelo Anthony. Denver can then start putting the pieces back together with that and also starting off their rebuilding process with a nice young perimeter unit of Lawson, James, and Williams.
If anything rash is done, I’ll put the blame on Prokhorov. We are not in a position to be rash and then ending up in the middle of the pack.
For those of you thinking about gutting this team because you are aroused by the name Carmelo Anthony, just think about what it would take to get past Miami or Orlando first. You may not be so cavalier afterwards with getting rid of our young bigs.
"No one stands on the top of the world. Not you, not me, not even gods. But the unbearable vacancy of the throne in the sky is over. From now on...I will be sitting on it."
by MrDollarBills on Aug 30, 2010 9:53 AM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
REC!
Seriously, there is nobody on the free agent market for the next 2 years or so that will make a different in becoming a championship team, besides D.Williams and Hartford. We cannot give up Brook or Favors… Period!!! They have to be patience. You want a championship… you need young bigs. T-Will and James can be replace!
not to start a war here...
but what “young bigs” have made good teams into championship contenders outside of Dwight Howard?
to restate
what “young bigs” HAVE made good teams into championship contenders outside of dwight howard? maybe timmy duncan.
but you’re shooting for an un-proven theory here. lets go with what works when it comes to winning CHAMPIONSHIPS. shut down defense (at ALL positions) and a team that can win a game at the foul line. seriously.
Maybe Timmy? Timmy is a sure thing
But thats the point. Great bigs dont come along every year. So if we think we have one in favors we Keep him and if he is like a D. Howard how scary would that be sided with Lopez. Unproven Theory? Young or not you need Bigs to compete
we have a great big (and young)
i’d gladly sacrifice favors for carmelo. granted, i’d still like to see favors play in a real NBA first before any decisions are finalized
go to to basketball reference
and check the rosters of the last few world champions. You’ll be proven wrong.
You need big men, period.
"No one stands on the top of the world. Not you, not me, not even gods. But the unbearable vacancy of the throne in the sky is over. From now on...I will be sitting on it."
by MrDollarBills on Aug 30, 2010 12:50 PM EDT up reply actions
Celtics KG,Perkins
Lakers Bynum,Gasol…..Pistons Wallace brothers. Its a big mans league, outside of the Jordan years. Why Iverson doesn’t have a ring yet.
You need at least 2-3 good bigs to get it done
You won’t find a championship team since the Bulls that do not have a decent assortment of big men, and even their bigs were servicable.
You are not winning without bigs, PERIOD. I don’t even want to get into a discussion if someone thinks that just having perimeter strength will do it. The reason our team was middling the pack during the Kidd-Carter era is mainly because our bigs were lacking severely.
For example:
Lakers have Gasol, Bynum, and Odom
Celts had KG, Perkins, Davis, Powe, last season it was Perk, KG, Wallace, Davis
You need size, rebounding, and interior defense in the playoffs.
The value that Lopez has and what Favors may have if he pans out is being severely underrated by those that want to sell the farm for Anthony.
You want Anthony here, so do I, but we need to realize that it will be pointless to bring him here if we give away our two frontcourt kids, it’s bad enough that we’ll have to include Murphy because I think that Lopez, Favors, and Murphy could become a wicked frontcourt rotation.
"No one stands on the top of the world. Not you, not me, not even gods. But the unbearable vacancy of the throne in the sky is over. From now on...I will be sitting on it."
by MrDollarBills on Aug 30, 2010 12:28 PM EDT up reply actions
Agreed.
Like I have said before, the GOAL is to get Melo, Favors, and Lopez as the Front court. Trading Favors or Lopez will be a BIG mistake.
Why do you think the Nuggets want Lopez? They know drafting, finding or trading for a very GOOD Center is hard to do.
exactly
Brook Lopez, and hopefully Favors, are not easy to come by
It took us YEARS to finally land a stud center and possibly a stud PF.
YEARS
Anyone who can sit there and tell me that it will be easy to replace those two is snorting DOPE.
"No one stands on the top of the world. Not you, not me, not even gods. But the unbearable vacancy of the throne in the sky is over. From now on...I will be sitting on it."
by MrDollarBills on Aug 30, 2010 1:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Bynum and Perkins to a small extent.
Brook ranks high in a league with few good big men.
value your opinion
but do you think the chance of favors being legit is higher than williams, james, a few 1st and maybe 2nds all combined?
"they try to do what he do, and been where he's been, but they get folded in two.....he's the dude"
i understand
valueing your own player as a net fan. But take it favors was drafted by the sixers.. would you be ok with trading williams, james, and those pics for favors?
"they try to do what he do, and been where he's been, but they get folded in two.....he's the dude"
i ask b/c
if you want melo, you got to give away something that you dont want to give away. Especially if melo is expected to sign and extend with that new team.
"they try to do what he do, and been where he's been, but they get folded in two.....he's the dude"
Its not Favors as a single player. its Favors along side of Brook
people dont understand how special that can be.
we're trying to build a contender here
Some folks from other fanbases may have a hard time understanding the vibe that we’re on here.
"No one stands on the top of the world. Not you, not me, not even gods. But the unbearable vacancy of the throne in the sky is over. From now on...I will be sitting on it."
by MrDollarBills on Aug 30, 2010 2:13 PM EDT up reply actions
gotcha
dealing both would be overbidding imo. But a package w/ favors is presumablely what they first ask about.
"they try to do what he do, and been where he's been, but they get folded in two.....he's the dude"
It could be Houston....
Apparently, the Nugs are intrigued by Scola. You know what you’re getting and it’s a reasonable contract/value. Battier for cap purposes, is an expiring. That plus they have some intriguing draft choices. That’s the essence.
The Knicks present a fascinating option, don’t they? Amar’e for Melo. Pretty equal offensive talent. It would make for a great rivalry with the Suns.
Favors is certainly very intriguing, but very unproven as well.
We have the power here. And having the ability to sign him the the 3 year extension (and get him for 4 years) would be huge for this franchise. I do know that there are issues with dealing some guys we signed this summer due to the Dec 15 date, but we are loaded with draft picks which would make the most sense for Denver.
The only guys I would hold onto are Brook, Morrow, TWill and Favors – however I have a feeling Favors will never play in NJ if we get Carmelo.
And Carmelo now being available makes the Outlaw signing even worse….particularly when all summer you could read the tea leaves that Carmelo was forcing his way out of Denver.
but
how could you gamble on Melo being traded to us?
The Outlaw signing is not that bad. People are acting like we are paying this guy 12 million
I’ll tell you what would have been stupid: Signing David Lee to 80 million dollars. Signing Outlaw to a 7 yr per deal is NOT that bad and it’s not a crippling deal.
A lot of folks will be backtracking hard by December on this topic. I’d wager on that.
"No one stands on the top of the world. Not you, not me, not even gods. But the unbearable vacancy of the throne in the sky is over. From now on...I will be sitting on it."
by MrDollarBills on Aug 30, 2010 9:18 AM EDT up reply actions
What makes it even better...
Is that it’s a 5 year contract, not a 7 year one!
by JohnFromLongIsland on Aug 30, 2010 9:26 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
and he'll be 30 by the end of the deal
"No one stands on the top of the world. Not you, not me, not even gods. But the unbearable vacancy of the throne in the sky is over. From now on...I will be sitting on it."
by MrDollarBills on Aug 30, 2010 9:28 AM EDT up reply actions
Everyone in our roster is game except for Lopez and Favors.
"There's no way, with hindsight, I would've ever called up Larry, called up Magic and said, 'Hey, look, let's get together and play on one team,'"
by jasperjarrod on Aug 30, 2010 8:26 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
this
if we can keep Harris too, even better.
"No one stands on the top of the world. Not you, not me, not even gods. But the unbearable vacancy of the throne in the sky is over. From now on...I will be sitting on it."
by MrDollarBills on Aug 30, 2010 9:18 AM EDT up reply actions
yup
which is why I started thinking about Harris being apart of what I envision as well
What reality has in store for us could be different, but hey, it would be nice.
"No one stands on the top of the world. Not you, not me, not even gods. But the unbearable vacancy of the throne in the sky is over. From now on...I will be sitting on it."
by MrDollarBills on Aug 30, 2010 9:26 AM EDT up reply actions
yes Harris too should not be traded. We need "The BLUR" to run our team.
"There's no way, with hindsight, I would've ever called up Larry, called up Magic and said, 'Hey, look, let's get together and play on one team,'"
by jasperjarrod on Aug 30, 2010 4:30 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
One NJ advantage:
All other things being equal, teams dealing popular superstars prefer to trade them out of their conference so that they only have to face the revenge-minded star (and remind their fans of what they’re missing) twice a season instead of 6 or more times. LAC and MIN can’t provide that.
But i have a feeling it matters less to a rebuilding team
they are going to want to deal him to who ever gives them the most back
it shouldnt
rebuilding is a two to three year deal and they will be in full rebuilding mode this season.
Kroenke has screwed up the team over the years by permitting his GM’s to sign players to huge deals. Now he has invested his 30 year old son as owner, fired his general manager and deputy general manager and hired a guy with no GM experience to be nothing more than his son’s assistant, paying him $200K a year. The team’s second best player in 34 years old and the coach’s ability to withstand a full season is in question.
Of course, Anthony wants to leave.
Carmelo has all of the leverage
Do you think there is anyway he holds out until the trade deadline? i think our best package would be including Outlaw. Like you sad before if he doesnt start (Outlaw) its a bad contract.
Shouldn't rationally matter--
but sometimes it does, human nature being involved and all. As I said, “all other things being equal.” Meaning that if, hypothetically, Denver was choosing among comparable offers from NJ, LAC and SAC, being the lone Eastern Conf. team in the mix might be a tipping point.
by madisonmetsfan on Aug 30, 2010 9:47 AM EDT up reply actions
Actually it may matter more for a rebuilding team. You don’t want to further alienate your fan base by dealing away a Top 5 player in the league and then subjecting your fans to a 3 year rebuilding process where you struggle to win 20 games and don’t make the playoffs…..You have to keep the fan base interested, and dealing your superstar to the East Coast (and a different time zone and division) makes sense from a marketing perspective.
That's why fans are in the stands and not the front office
They often think very short term, what will make us competitive now, not what will keep the franchise alive for the next decade
Oh i see. Maybe because i put who get the best players back you may have been confused
but yeah i agree. I meant get the most back as in picks and young talent. I dont think a rebuilding team is gonna worry to much about which conference he is playing in becasue they wont be competing
blah blah blah
pure speculation. all of this. He’d be a fool to sign with the Nets, Kings, or Twolves. As NI says, this is a ploy to tone Melo down. He’s going where he wants. And why would he want to come here? Brooklyn? Last time I checked that was toward the end of his contract.
Not really
The Yahoo! article says that out of NJ, Minnesota and Sacramento, the Nets are the only one “thought to be possibly on the list of teams Anthony gave to the Nuggets last year.” That’s pretty thin gruel for a rumor.
thin gruel
whether you are correct or not, i support your right to say thin gruel whenever you want.
If the rumors weren't true
Every single New York beat writer would’ve already wrote about it and found any source at all who would say it wasn’t true.
one year + three years
means half his contract in Brooklyn…
Why would he sign here? It’s New York and the owner is worth $17 billion.
Denver's front office....
….seems to be comprised of a bunch of delusional buffoons. You better toss your pride out of the window before you get screwed like Cleveland. Anthony will not be fazed by this, and if what we’ve heard is true, he wouldn’t mind playing for us anyway since we are putting together a world class organization, set to move into a brand new arena in NYC.
I want him here, to form a core with Lopez, Harris, and Favors. There is a perfect trade that we can make for him, including T-Willy, D. James, 3 1st rd picks and 2nd rders, and the expirings of The Hump and Murph(who I’d hope they’d waive so we can bring him back here). Anything more than that, the Nuggets can go love themselves and find another suitor for their malcontent star.
IMO, after thinking about this over the weekend, we aren’t hard pressed to make a move for this guy at the expense of Lopez, Harris, or Favors. We have to keep in mind that any move that requires us to lose a significant amount of talent will leave us STUCK in the middle of the pack, with Miami and Orlando at the top.
I’d rather be where we are now, on the come up with an abundance of young talent, picks, and a possible 20 million in cap room come this summer, and working our way up from there instead of blowing everything for Carmelo and leaving the team in a position where we still won’t be able to compete against the big dogs.
A core of Anthony, Lopez, Harris, and Favors(assuming Derrick develops, which I am confident that he will) gives us what we need to go against the big dogs. Subtract Lopez from that equation, or even Favors(since we will be hard pressed to find a solid PF after Anthony’s extension would kick in), and we’re just fodder stuck in cap hell.
Unless a trade for Anthony leaves us with a solid core like that, no dice.
The Nets may feel otherwise because Anthony will put the butts in the seats, and they may be pressured to toss everything into the wind for the kid…I understand the business part, but if Prokhy’s goal is to win a championship in 5 years, he’d be better off with Lopez-Favors-Anthony-Harris in the starting 5 instead of Anthony having to drag a team that could end up being worse than the Nuggets are now.
"No one stands on the top of the world. Not you, not me, not even gods. But the unbearable vacancy of the throne in the sky is over. From now on...I will be sitting on it."
by MrDollarBills on Aug 30, 2010 9:10 AM EDT reply actions 3 recs
What happens if Favors doesn't pan out?
We got cap hell for years with Melo and Lopez on a extention. We won’t get a decent pick since we’re a 40-55 win team at best. To me we’re stuck. Max $ has to deliver max results. Melo doesn’t deliver to that level.
hey, great point
It will be a gamble either way.
"No one stands on the top of the world. Not you, not me, not even gods. But the unbearable vacancy of the throne in the sky is over. From now on...I will be sitting on it."
by MrDollarBills on Aug 30, 2010 3:50 PM EDT up reply actions
No way to give up Troy Murphy also.
As we’ve discussed before, there are ways to use Jarvis Hayes to get 4.2 million in trade value (amount of cap space).
There are other tricks possible, such as renegotiating Murphy’s contract, conditional on the Melo trade.
That way there would be more cap space to S&T Hayes.
Another alternative is to convince the parties to delay and include Outlaw instead of DJames.
They could sign Hayes for the Cap Space 4.2
sign boone for his cap hold or a bit less 6.2 and trade Hump with two young pieces such as James Favors or T-Will and Picks.
Miami's weakest area is front line, and Melo knows it.
It’s in Melo’s best interest for his new team to be able to dominate up front.
exactly
which is why, we shouldn’t be so eager to give up a frickin Top 5 center and a possible stud at PF in any deal
"No one stands on the top of the world. Not you, not me, not even gods. But the unbearable vacancy of the throne in the sky is over. From now on...I will be sitting on it."
by MrDollarBills on Aug 30, 2010 9:45 AM EDT up reply actions
The problem with buying out Murph
Is that trade would max out the Nets cap wise. Assuming Denver was to buy out Murphy for half his contract, he could only get the veterans minimum upon resigning with the Nets (somebody stop me if I am wrong here).
Of course this brings up another important point that is not being discussed here: one advantage of trading for Carmelo now rather than signing him in free agency is that in 2011 we will be over the cap. Why is this important? Because teams under the cap do not get a Mid-Level Exception. The MLE is very important for teams looking to add veteran role players and the Nets would not have to wait to use there’s until 2012 (assuming there is no lockout in 2011).
by BrooklynNets on Aug 30, 2010 11:00 AM EDT up reply actions
Always about pride
They don’t want to be known to their fan base as “the guy who traded ______ for nothing/when he might have stayed”. If Cleveland had traded LeBron during midseason, they would have been rioting in Cleveland.
in hindsight
they would have been better off. Now they are left with nothing and they are sad and miserable.
Gotta let these guys go when they start acting like fools. We had the same situation with Kidd…dogging it during games, faking migraines, and then having the audacity to play at full speed in front of Mark Cuban. What did we get in return?
A young player, picks, and expiring deals. When Devin was traded to us, no one thought that he’d be anything more than a competent replacement for Kidd, instead he showed that he could score and play at a high level(offensively).
Which is why I scoff at this garbage about trading Lopez for Anthony. Who do the Nuggets and their fans think they are?
No player is worth hanging onto when he becomes a malcontent.
"No one stands on the top of the world. Not you, not me, not even gods. But the unbearable vacancy of the throne in the sky is over. From now on...I will be sitting on it."
by MrDollarBills on Aug 30, 2010 4:00 PM EDT up reply actions
I can't blame Dan Gilbert for hanging onto LeBron
LeBron should have given his “two weeks notice” or the basketball equivalent thereof. ANY employee should be a gentleman and give notice that your leaving in response to a company that is trying its darndest to appease your every whim. LeBron just basically quitting with no advance notice made him look like a jerk employee. And no, he didn’t deserve to be. Cleveland treated him like a king (pun intended). The least he could have done was give them advanced notice. But that would have washed out his ratings/atttention grab with The Decision. I lost a lot of repect for LeBron for how he handled that.
Nets = Global
Knicks = Local
He went from a player everyone went to cheer
To the player everyone wants to boo.
Prokhorov was dead on about his imagine taking a big hit.
rec'd
"There's no way, with hindsight, I would've ever called up Larry, called up Magic and said, 'Hey, look, let's get together and play on one team,'"
by jasperjarrod on Aug 30, 2010 4:34 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Outlaw contract is waste of cap space. I said it before and I say it now.
by 3ptChucker on Aug 30, 2010 9:11 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
it won't be a waste
when he is providing spacing on the floor for Harris, Williams, and most importantly, Lopez, to operate.
The criticism of this summer’s signings are so overblown it’s ridiculous. Every player fills a need. My only problem with Outlaw’s contract is the two extra years, but screw it. The guy can play, and if we have to move James or Williams in a deal we’ll be glad to have him.
"No one stands on the top of the world. Not you, not me, not even gods. But the unbearable vacancy of the throne in the sky is over. From now on...I will be sitting on it."
by MrDollarBills on Aug 30, 2010 9:15 AM EDT up reply actions
I've explained this many times
I’ll do it again
OK, to make salaries match, you’d have to give up either Harris or Murphy to begin with. That’s a given. It’s not a Eddy Curry type of filler we’re talking about here. Harris is an in his prime AS caliber PG, and Murphy is a double-double machine and a PF like we haven’t had one in years. Losing either one would hurt because of the holes we’d be creating at those positions.
Add to that the fact that we’d have to lose one or more young players, and it wouldn’t be worth it, IMO. Either your backcourt or power rotation would be really thin if not terrible. I love the team as it is because of the depth and balance we have, and the room to grow some of our kids have. Melo or no Melo, we’re not competing with Miami, Anthony is not gonna change that, so I’d rather take my chances on those kids and see how things play out and if we have the opportunity to build a team in the most literal sense of the word, internal improvement is one of the most overlooked ways to improve your team, IMO.
just my $0.02.
I’m not asking people to agree with me, but I think it is an opinion that can be respected is it not?
I can respect that
but its not as black and white as you make it seem. There are other ways to match Salaries
yes it is
if you want to make the trade NOW there’s no way you can match salaries if you’re not surrendering either Murphy or Harris.
go check the salaries
it is that way, sorry
players we signed this summer can’t be moved until Dec 15, if we trade for Anthony NOW, one of Harris or Murphy NEEDS to be included in order to make salaries match.
Is that true?
I thought you only had to wait two months from the date they signed to trade them. Isn’t it only base-year players that have to wait until December 15?
by BrooklynNets on Aug 30, 2010 11:02 AM EDT up reply actions
Even if it wasnt true,still isnt the only way to match salaries
i would believe we can involve a 3rd team
I have a question...
If we don’t trade Murphy can we sign him next year even if we go over the cap? If we trade him and are at the cap then we can’t really sign him next year in free agency. Am I correct?
No, not entirely
According to Net Income:
Ross and Murphy can be traded now.
Anthony Morrow can be traded September 15.
Farmar, Petro, and Outlaw can be traded only after December 15.
If we can wait until the 15th Morrow could be an enticing piece….
by BrooklynNets on Aug 30, 2010 11:30 AM EDT up reply actions
I might of confused everybody...
What I was trying to ascertain is if you can go over the cap when signing your own free agents. If we don’t trade Murphy he will be our own FA so we can go over the cap and then pay a luxury tax. If we trade him and then try to sign him next season, we won’t be able to go over the cap. Is this correct?
Then I would trade Devin Harris...
Keep Murphy as a backup PF center. If we trade Murphy we don’t have our PF for this year plus we don’t have a proven backup center either. If we trade Murphy we probably won’t be able to sign him next season unless he plays for cheap dollars, which I doubt he will. To get Carmelo it’s look like either Harris or Murphy must be included to match up salary wise. With Melo we won’t need Harris’s greatest strength…his scoring ability. We would just need a PG who could handle the ball and dish…
Not entirely true
In all likelihood, one would have to be included, however, it’s not 100% required.
The Nets still have the rights to Hayes, whom if signed & traded for all of our remaining cap space, along with other players (e.g. Favors, Hump, TWitt) would get us within 25% of Melo’s salary.
No
If giving up Murphy for a player like Carmelo Anthony is giving you so much of an issue, you are crazy. Crazy crazy crazy.
You just don’t want Melo at all. Your post wasn’t “Just say no to Melo if it means gutting the team.” it was simply that you dislike Melo.
That’s your opinion.
crazy? first off stop insulting people who aren’t Melo groupies and don’t believe he’s the superstar you believe he is.
and again, it’s not murphy alone, it’s murphy and other pieces we’d have to give up
As long as we maintain a core group of Lopez, Anthony, Favors, and Harris
I see nothing wrong with making a trade. That core right there has the tools to become a contender. Anything less is insane.
"No one stands on the top of the world. Not you, not me, not even gods. But the unbearable vacancy of the throne in the sky is over. From now on...I will be sitting on it."
by MrDollarBills on Aug 30, 2010 1:08 PM EDT up reply actions
Agree with you about salary matching, but I want Melo as long as we keep Lopez and Favors
Either Harris or Murphy has to go. Obviously, I think the GS protected 1st, and two 2nds. Beyond that, either TWill or DJames (but not both). If Denver asks nicely, I may throw in another 1st.
If we get to keep Lopez and Favors, don’t you agree we should get Melo?
give them
Murphy+james+Twill+hump+all of the Nets 2012 picks for Carmelo+Afflalo
Or we could do this. I just don’t know if it is a match.
Murphy+Harris+james+twill+hump+morrow+2012 first round picks for Afflalo+Carmelo+Billups
"There's no way, with hindsight, I would've ever called up Larry, called up Magic and said, 'Hey, look, let's get together and play on one team,'"
by jasperjarrod on Aug 30, 2010 4:43 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
oooppps!
On the second one. Replace TWill with Ross so that we have another guard on our roster that can start or be our 6th man.
"There's no way, with hindsight, I would've ever called up Larry, called up Magic and said, 'Hey, look, let's get together and play on one team,'"
by jasperjarrod on Aug 30, 2010 4:46 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
what about Donte Greene and Casspi as solid trade bait for Melo… its not a lock that we have the best situation for him to step in to. the kings are up-and-comes with tyreke and cousins. the question is: does Melo want to play there?
all signs point to us landing melo i think. but i’m still trying to learn my lesson about getting my hopes too high for this team
Same
I’m trying to just wait and let this play out without going nuts.. its hard tho.
As far as SAC and MInny go, we can offer better packages and I’d be willing to bet the Nets are the only team of those 3 he would agree to an extend and trade with.
all signs point to us landing melo
not at all
if you’re saying this because of this report, I call this BS, Amico said Denver is trying to call Melo’s bluff. Anyways, Minny won’t trade for him bc there’s no chance Anthony would sign an extension there, with the Kings I have some doubts cause Tyreke and Cousins will be a dominant duo some day IMO, but I’m not sure Melo would like the market. Anyways, a team like the Clippers could put a better package than those 2 teams IMO, and Melo is said to be willing to go to LA according to the Denver Post, so it won’t be us or those 2 teams which why some want to believe we’re winning the Melo Sweepstakes.
Also, Amico’s report hasn’t been confirmed by any other writer.
i'm not basing my opinions on any single article...
or any single sports writer’s opinions about the topic. although denver has the weaker hand at this point, i’m sure they don’t want want to deal melo to a team they have to play in their own conference.
denver calling “melo’s bluff” will land them in a similar situation to the teams that were willing to call bluffs on LBJ and Bosh.
Mannix's article said Nets.
Word Amico is getting is Nets also.
And I’ll say it again, if there was any agent or NBA hound that would be willing to tell a New York tabloid paper that the Nets aren’t an option, you would’ve seen that by now.
Manix said Nets and Rockets, yet you question the Rockets part
Woj also mentioned the Rockets as a destination Anthony likes, even more so than the Knicks
But of course you question that but not when the Nets are mentioned
Woj and the Denver Post mentioned the Clippers as teams Melo wouldn’t mind going to
Because a reporter said
That an agent he talked to said Melo would play for a minor league team before he would play for the Rockets.
If a report came out saying the same thing about the Nets, I’d be less hopeful.
let's try just thinking for ourselves for one minute...
who cares what woj says? think about the situation. weigh the sides. pros and cons. then make a decision. agreeing with some DB writer here doesn’t mean anything. we can all post, “yes i agree with everything i’m told.” wheres the fun in that?
i STILL think LBJ to the nets made the most basketball sense, but obviously that’s not the only issue at play here. i still think its in melo’s best interest to be here too. who will get the credit for the best single-season turn around of all time?!?! it’s ya boy!! Melo!!
Melo probably would not want to play there
added with the fact that both he and Evans need the ball in their hands to be effective, I don’t see that working.
Any serious talk regarding Minnesota is a joke.
If it isn’t us, it’s Houston or the Knicks IMO. Maybe even Washington.
"No one stands on the top of the world. Not you, not me, not even gods. But the unbearable vacancy of the throne in the sky is over. From now on...I will be sitting on it."
by MrDollarBills on Aug 30, 2010 9:48 AM EDT up reply actions
i haven't heard anything from washington
but that’s a serious problem if they’re interested. i think 99% of current NBA players want to play with J.Wall.
but what about gilbert?
Gilbert is probably going to have to be traded to make it work
And if I was Denver, I would want no parts of Arenas or his contract if I’m rebuilding
I’ve heard rumors that Washington is interested….yet, we don’t see people saying that the Wiz should give up their #1 pick in any deal, so I don’t see why we need to give up our #3 pick.
"No one stands on the top of the world. Not you, not me, not even gods. But the unbearable vacancy of the throne in the sky is over. From now on...I will be sitting on it."
by MrDollarBills on Aug 30, 2010 1:20 PM EDT up reply actions
When you look at it, Rockets and Nets have the best to offer…Plus ’Melo has “said” he would be open to play for those teams.
Rockets have 2 knicks picks…I think the advantage in terms of picks goes to the Rockets because the knicks are one injury away from those picks being in the lottery. But Nets do have the golden state pick.
Nets have better young talent to offer…twill alone is a better prospect than Budinger or Jordan Hill.
"I want to win, I want the team to win and I'm in complete control."
-Coach Avery Johnson.
to be honest i dont think the nets would even consider melo
it would make the outlaw signing look very bad
7$ million was given to outlaw to be a STARTER
"I want to win, I want the team to win and I'm in complete control."
-Coach Avery Johnson.
disagree
outlaw can be to the nets as odom is to the lakers. he brings many different tools and plays 2 or maybe 3 positions.
by corky_romano4life on Aug 30, 2010 10:07 AM EDT up reply actions
lol you are hilarious
They wouldn’t go after one of the best players in the NBA because they are worried about the scrutiny of signing Outlaw?
You are seriously stretching.
yeah
the Outlaw stuff is unwarranted IMO.
Let the dude earn his money.
"No one stands on the top of the world. Not you, not me, not even gods. But the unbearable vacancy of the throne in the sky is over. From now on...I will be sitting on it."
by MrDollarBills on Aug 30, 2010 1:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Erm, but he'd have a guy named Carmelo Anthony in fornt of him.
Consequences will never be the same.
by NetsMets4Life on Aug 30, 2010 10:53 AM EDT up reply actions
it does not matter
We wouldn’t balk at trading for Anthony because we’re paying 7 mil per to Outlaw
Outlaw can come off of the bench if that happens.
Also, they could be used together in smaller line ups as well
People are putting way too much into the Outlaw signing.
"No one stands on the top of the world. Not you, not me, not even gods. But the unbearable vacancy of the throne in the sky is over. From now on...I will be sitting on it."
by MrDollarBills on Aug 30, 2010 1:21 PM EDT up reply actions
I think it's a legit concern as in...
One more reason to be prudent with a Melo deal.
With Melo, Outlaw goes from a questionable contract who has to prove himself given starter’s minutes, to one of the worst contracts in the league potentially. Outlaw would be relegated to 12 minutes a game at back-up SF and spot minutes at PF, for $7m per.
Good lucking moving that contract for a more pressing need, if he’s not playing/producing.
by Jack Handy Jr on Aug 30, 2010 1:30 PM EDT up reply actions
I’ve got to stop getting myself excited, but the Nets and Carmelo seem like they’re on a collision course for each other.
However, after getting burned so much by rumors, I have to keep my expectations tempered.
Trade or no trade, our team will be a lot more exciting and competitive than last year.
Oh and seeing the look on Knicks fans’ faces if and when Carmelo gets traded here would make this season just that much better.
We’re looking at hiring the Red Army choir to perform at half-time along with Russia’s top dancing bear collective
can Avery teach Melo to play defense?!?
melo is a perennial MVP candidate if it weren’t for his lack pf defensive abilities.
that might be a selling point worth making to Melo in their talks..
“you want to be MVP?? let our boy avery show you how to get there.”
I have an idea!!!
Lets trade Favors + #1 to the Kings for Cousins and the rights to Rubio, then we can trade Lopez and Harris to the Nuggets…
New Lineup... Would be fun to watch!
Rubio/Farmar
T-Will/Morrow
Anthony/Outlaw
Murphy/May
Cousins/Petro
Harris
Twill
Melo
Murphy
Brook
Now thats a team…but….that cant happen.
"I want to win, I want the team to win and I'm in complete control."
-Coach Avery Johnson.
Harris
Morrow
Melo
Favors
Brook
Is not too shabby either.
We’re looking at hiring the Red Army choir to perform at half-time along with Russia’s top dancing bear collective
how about this for one year?
Billups
TWill
Carmelo
Favors
Lopez
"There's no way, with hindsight, I would've ever called up Larry, called up Magic and said, 'Hey, look, let's get together and play on one team,'"
by jasperjarrod on Aug 30, 2010 4:54 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
we could resign Billups or go get us a much younger PG through trades or through FA…
"There's no way, with hindsight, I would've ever called up Larry, called up Magic and said, 'Hey, look, let's get together and play on one team,'"
by jasperjarrod on Aug 30, 2010 4:57 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Since when does Denver have any leverage?
Because over at Stiffs they seem convinced that they have all the leverage in the world. I am confused by this.
Consequences will never be the same.
Yeah... But Melo can help the Nuggets out...
by acting like he might go to a team that he has no interest in going to. Remember Carmelo is being managed by the same people that dealt with LeBron. They will say and do anything to get their way….
The Five Stages of Grief
1. Denial
2. Anger
3. Bargaining
4. Depression
5. Acceptance
They’re in about stage three right now. Ha.
We’re looking at hiring the Red Army choir to perform at half-time along with Russia’s top dancing bear collective
For some strange reason...
This Carmelo talk does not get me that excited… If we get him great… but if we don’t, I won’t be shedding any tears…
im at this point as well.
Consequences will never be the same.
by NetsMets4Life on Aug 30, 2010 10:35 AM EDT up reply actions
MIKE, my friend
the comment you made the other day about how people thinking Melo is our only hope to create a competitive team is kind of pathetic was spot on.
i agree, he's not our only hope...
but really, our chances improve tremendously with him out there. the free agency shenanigans are starting to backfire on players demanding they get moved (i.e. CP3), however i dont think we should be downplaying melo’s talent. love him or hate him, there’s no denying he would help this team win games IMMEDIATELY. he’s now a veteran presence that can help guide this young team
But at what price?
Lopez for Anthony would be too high a price. Plus it would throw are team balance out of whack…
i’m with you on that. Lopez should be (and IMO is) untouchable. i’d love to see favors stay also. but to downplay melo because we want to keep Lopeze just isn’t fair. Melo is a ridiculous talent, and we should do everything in our power (save moving Lopez) to acquire him. i’m a syracuse alum so i’m a little biased, but you can’t deny the man’s abilities
He won the title In Syracuse, am I right? Im losing my memory...
Consequences will never be the same.
by NetsMets4Life on Aug 30, 2010 10:55 AM EDT up reply actions
Yup. 2003.
Consequences will never be the same.
by NetsMets4Life on Aug 30, 2010 10:56 AM EDT up reply actions
they're a bunch of delusional homers to be honest
and that’s why a few of their posters lashed out at myself and others when we came on there speaking the truth. Things were civil until some folks started begging me to clown them. I gave them what they wanted.
those country bumpkins think that they’re going to fetch a King’s ransom for Melo, and that the Nuggets have all of the leverage.
As I said to them, regardless of where Anthony is traded, they are in for a rude awakening.
"No one stands on the top of the world. Not you, not me, not even gods. But the unbearable vacancy of the throne in the sky is over. From now on...I will be sitting on it."
by MrDollarBills on Aug 30, 2010 1:26 PM EDT up reply actions
as much as you try to play your innocense when im up here...
you do more name calling across this board than you can shake a stick at.
dope smokers, buffoons, delusional homers. and thats just what ive seen on this one thead.. grow up son
"they try to do what he do, and been where he's been, but they get folded in two.....he's the dude"
if you don't like it
go back to your own board with the other Knicks homers. Your boy Gallo already got ran off of here for making an ass out of himself, I’d hate to see that happen to you.
BTW…your comment is hilarious coming from someone who was running around on here acting the fool before…take your own advice, young lady.
"No one stands on the top of the world. Not you, not me, not even gods. But the unbearable vacancy of the throne in the sky is over. From now on...I will be sitting on it."
by MrDollarBills on Aug 30, 2010 4:28 PM EDT up reply actions
you first
"No one stands on the top of the world. Not you, not me, not even gods. But the unbearable vacancy of the throne in the sky is over. From now on...I will be sitting on it."
by MrDollarBills on Aug 30, 2010 8:48 PM EDT up reply actions
2009 roster at start of season vs current 2010
1. PG Harris vs Harris——-should improve
2.SG Lee vs Morrow——better O worse D
3.SF Hayes vs Outlaw——-upgrade
4.PF Yi vs Murphy——upgrade
5.C Lopez vs Lopez———should improve with added shooters and good PF
6. Dooling vs Farmar——-equal for now upgrade later in season
7. T. Williams vs T. Williams———should improve
8. Hassell vs D. James——upgrade
9. Najera vs Humphries—-upgrade
10. CDR vs Ross———-downgrade
11. Boone vs Petro—————-equal
12. S.Williams vs Favors———upgrade
13. Battie vs Zoubek———equal
14. Simmons vs May———equal until proven otherwise
15. Alston vs Uzoh——-equal
If trading for Melo costs us 3 or more upgrades or improves and draft picks we are probably better off passing. The team now has potential to be really good before the end of the season
Thats for sure +
Assistant coaches, scouts and all other team support
I have a man crush on our coaching staff
I think its the bomb.
Consequences will never be the same.
by NetsMets4Life on Aug 30, 2010 10:54 AM EDT up reply actions
we have a manly coaching staff
Mitchell was going to slap the mess out of both Vince Carter and Rafer Alston for acting up.
"No one stands on the top of the world. Not you, not me, not even gods. But the unbearable vacancy of the throne in the sky is over. From now on...I will be sitting on it."
by MrDollarBills on Aug 30, 2010 1:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Question for you guys. How many wins do you think Avery adds?
Once again I’ll compare to how Nuggets fans think. One said that they think Karl adds them 10-12 wins.
So let’s say Karl adds 10 wins to a Nuggets team currently as constructed, how many wins would Avery add as we are currently constructed? Now lets add Melo to this team (for example, also minus Favors), does Avery’s input change somehow?
Consequences will never be the same.
Interesting question...
It made me start wondering if a take charge coach like AJ, would really want a “superstar” like Carmelo on his team. Last time he got fired was helped out by a superstar, Jason Kidd…
The more I look at this potential trade...
The more potential problems I see… If Nets management are more interested in selling tickets and jerseys maybe they do it. Their rational being that the Nets can’t really compete for a title in at least 4 or 5 years anyway.
exactly.
its stupid to even say something like, “we are getting to the finals in 5 years.”
i’d prefer, “we are doing everything in our power to make this team a perennial playoffs squad that can threaten to unseat the yearly championship contenders.”
we need to stay realistic
I actually have said this before, about how realistically we probably wont be in the finals in 5 years
And people here told me that it was silly to think that when we are talking 5 years from now. Thats a long time, certainly, but you have to look at where we are now.
Consequences will never be the same.
by NetsMets4Life on Aug 30, 2010 11:22 AM EDT up reply actions
The only way we do this trade...
is if we can keep Lopez and Favors… We need a potential big 3…In two or three years
Melo will be 29, Lopes 26, and Favors 22…
I don't see anything happening until december or so
Why would they trade him now? Why not wait and see if maybe he changes his mind, or a better offer comes up?
Outlaw and Harris (thats 16 mil) couple of picks
Keep Favors, James and T-will?
personally i wouldnt mind that
Doubt they would want Outlaw and the 5 years on his contract
Related to that, they might want us to take on Harrington’s new 5 year deal for them. Take the poison pill of that contract in return for Melo
that scenario put a smile on my face.
best team? (no, far from it). but certainly an exciting squad. we’ll sell out every home game with that roster plus carmelo.
According to all these BS rumors,
it seems that the Nuggets and Anthony want to part ways before the season. How true that is for you to figure out, but that is what has been reported.
muwu
Ask Toronto how it worked out for them when they decided to wait after VC asked for a trade.
Carter almost got into a brawl with the head coach, and the Raps ended up selling Carter to us for pennies on the dollar.
I have no problem with Denver waiting because we can rip them off that much easier. But IMO, regardless of Melo coming here or not, they’d be fools to keep him around, since he’s now a malcontent. Also, Melo is potentially a more combustible personality than a guy like Carter, so all hell could end up breaking loose out there.
Any guy that is dumb enough to put a price on some prostitute’s head on a public social media site doesn’t sound like he’d take too kindly to his trade request being ignored.
"No one stands on the top of the world. Not you, not me, not even gods. But the unbearable vacancy of the throne in the sky is over. From now on...I will be sitting on it."
by MrDollarBills on Aug 30, 2010 1:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Yessir
all this stuff about waiting flies in the face of history…Not saying they won’t wait…they are so inexperienced that they may make mistakes.
They might make a mistake and wait
but imo even at a small price to pay, he would be a mistake to sign.
I was reading the mailbag on NAS
And Pruiti said Favors cannot be traded for one year. Can NI or anyone else confirm this?
~AC24
we shouldn't trade him, period
bigs do not fall out of trees
"No one stands on the top of the world. Not you, not me, not even gods. But the unbearable vacancy of the throne in the sky is over. From now on...I will be sitting on it."
by MrDollarBills on Aug 30, 2010 1:37 PM EDT up reply actions
work?? que??
"No one stands on the top of the world. Not you, not me, not even gods. But the unbearable vacancy of the throne in the sky is over. From now on...I will be sitting on it."
by MrDollarBills on Aug 30, 2010 1:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Melo needed Billups to be significant in the post season.... just saying.
Harris + James + 2 First round picks or
Harris + Twill + 1 First round pick for Melo
No need to give up Lopez or Favors in this situation.
Farmar/Uzoh
Twill/Morrow/Ross
Melo/Outlaw/Ross
Murphy/Favors/Hump
Lopez/Petro/Zoubek
Farmar/Uzoh
Morrow/James/Ross
Melo/Outlaw/James
Murphy/Favors/Hump
Lopez/Petro/Zoubek
I both situations we would needed another PG and more than likely another wing player. Personally I’D prefer Harris+ James + 2 first rounders but we’ll see.
" I'm really excited to take the worst team in the league and turn it to be the best in the league." --Mikhail Prokhorov.
I agree... We can't trade Lopez or Favors...
But if we did trade Favors is there any chance of getting Nene back.? Now that would be a blockbuster trade. Melo and Nene for Lopez and whatever it takes…
I don't think that would work salary wise, MIKE
And i’d prefer to keep the 18 year old.
"No one stands on the top of the world. Not you, not me, not even gods. But the unbearable vacancy of the throne in the sky is over. From now on...I will be sitting on it."
by MrDollarBills on Aug 30, 2010 1:38 PM EDT up reply actions
We don't have an 18 year old
maybe one of the cheerleeders? ;)
(yes, i know you mean favors)
Nets = Global
Knicks = Local
LOL
"No one stands on the top of the world. Not you, not me, not even gods. But the unbearable vacancy of the throne in the sky is over. From now on...I will be sitting on it."
by MrDollarBills on Aug 30, 2010 2:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Sorry...I meant trade Lopez...not Favors...
With all this talk about trading Lopez, I would at least want something besides Melo in return. There is no way I would trade Lopez + Harris or Murphy and draft picks for Anthony unless Denver gave us back Nene.
I AGREE
I like the Harris, James + 2-3 First Round Picks if they want. If they want second round picks too, I would do it. I would prefer to hold on to Twill but if he has to go I will get over that quickly.
If the Nuggets trade Melo, Billups is the next to go, because his contract isnt guaranteed next year. So the Nuggets trading for Harris is VERY possible.
Iannazzone (via twitter)
The Melo rumors: The Nets have to inquire and will, but it probably will cost Lopez, Harris and other pieces to make the salaries work.
please Nets stay away, I’m begging you
Melo is a 80 PPG scorer… He can single habdedly score more than Harris, Lopez, other pieces, and whoever our next 2 1st rounders would be. AND he can sell jerseys… Literally. Lay off the souvenir stand guys.
by JohnFromLongIsland on Aug 30, 2010 1:02 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
Ok I like part of that tweet,
The Harris part. The Lopez thing is a DEAL BREAKER.
I hope King’s short term memory kicks in. DONT LET THE STAR DICTATE YOUR NEXT MOVE!!!!!!
AI flashbacks should be kicking in ever time he sees NETS and MELO in the same sentence.
relax
What a reporter says, and what the Nets will do, are two different things.
I highly doubt we trade Lopez and Harris plus others for Anthony. That’s madness, and utterly stupid.
And NO OTHER TEAM in this discussion would be giving that much up.
Is Houston going to send back Yao Ming and Kevin Martin?
GTHOH
"No one stands on the top of the world. Not you, not me, not even gods. But the unbearable vacancy of the throne in the sky is over. From now on...I will be sitting on it."
by MrDollarBills on Aug 30, 2010 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Why should it cost Lopez?
Tell me one team that would trade them anything near a proven 22 year old 19-9 center. Kaman? He’s 28. Demarcus Cousins? A question mark. Why would it ever come to a point that Lopez would be in the deal?
it won't
it makes me pissed that these guys keep saying that the Nets have to gut their whole team while other teams would not.
Please.
"No one stands on the top of the world. Not you, not me, not even gods. But the unbearable vacancy of the throne in the sky is over. From now on...I will be sitting on it."
by MrDollarBills on Aug 30, 2010 1:43 PM EDT up reply actions
WOAH WOAH WOAH WOAH
He means Lopez AND Harris AND “other pieces”????
Get out of here.
Consequences will never be the same.
by NetsMets4Life on Aug 30, 2010 1:25 PM EDT up reply actions
That is BBBBSSSSS. He knows nothing. Melo would have to approve of trade.
I Could see Favors being traded, since Melo wouldn’t need him during the next 3 years.
I have a VERY hard time believing this. A VERY hard time.
Consequences will never be the same.
by NetsMets4Life on Aug 30, 2010 1:32 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't
D’Alessandro, Kerber, and Bondy are all much better than him. Dave for his writing, clarity, and perspective; Kerber for his connections; and Bondy for his youngster’s enthusiasm for the job. Iannazzone is basically a glorified blogger. Just imo.
Nets = Global
Knicks = Local
RIGHT NOW
harris and lopez are the two BIG NAMES on this team. outsiders and talking heads know that people will pay attention to what they say if it involves these two individuals (and i think Favors reputation is slowly building despite him never playing in an NBA game).
the point is, as we learned back in june and july, NO ONE knows what is going to happen. for anyone to claim this scenario or that is at best a stab in the dark.
we need to give our front office enough credit to realize that they are NOT getting rid of lopez… ever.
I call B.S.
and I like Al, but if the Nets are stupid to give up that much we all might as well resign ourselves to the fact that the front office is not interested in doing nothing more than remaining in the middle of the pack
Lopez, Harris, and other pieces?
Please.
You can trade Williams, James, Murphy, Hump, and picks and it will work.
"No one stands on the top of the world. Not you, not me, not even gods. But the unbearable vacancy of the throne in the sky is over. From now on...I will be sitting on it."
by MrDollarBills on Aug 30, 2010 1:40 PM EDT up reply actions
uh, why not post the next tweet
where Al says he should have said COULD not WILL?
Oh I know why…because it would fly in the face of your argument.
hahahaha, you're "funny", Net Income, hahahaha
next tweet was this:
The Murphy pick-up took a major chunk of the Nets cap room. The interesting thing is the Nugs may want teams to take Kenyon as well.
about 3 hours ago via TweetDeck
then this:
French Open champ and No. 6 seed Francesca Schiavone is the first to advance in this year’s Open, 6-1, 6-0.
about 3 hours ago via TweetDeck
and then this:
Melanie Oudin moves on, too.
about 3 hours ago via TweetDeck
and finally it’s th tweet you’re referring to:
Addendum to a prior tweet: it COULD cost Lopez, Harris, other pieces and picks. Nuggets will try to get as much as possible Anthony.
about 2 hours ago via TweetDeck
now check the time they were posted at, and you’ll understand why I didn’t post it right away after the one I posted there.
you aren't either, I was trying to be sarcastic
and seriously, you’re gonna come here and give me lessons about “honesty”? Ha.
btw I guess you wanted me to post a tweet that hadn’t been written yet to begin with, huh? You know what I have a life if something gets tweeted and I’m not my computer how do you want me to know it. I guess you’re too busy trying to discredit other commenters to stop and think about things like that
If we can keep Harris, Lopez and Favors…Im all for this trade.
If we do include any of those three…I see the melo trade hurting the nets.
"I want to win, I want the team to win and I'm in complete control."
-Coach Avery Johnson.
yep!
"No one stands on the top of the world. Not you, not me, not even gods. But the unbearable vacancy of the throne in the sky is over. From now on...I will be sitting on it."
by MrDollarBills on Aug 30, 2010 1:43 PM EDT up reply actions
one way to get melo clean is wait
one more year…. there was speculation stating that melo didnt want to be traded to a team without lopez… so play out the year in denver and we just sign him staight up …. and then we use the assests we do have to obtain cp3 so then it would be cp3,morrow, melo, favors and bLO
Thats if the nets just dont want to outright sell the farm for melo, melo can basically veto any trade that he doesnt like…..so if melo works with the nets he can basically hand pick the type of nets team he wants to play with and denver has to agree or risk losing him for nothing- after a year of faking injuries, or dealing with “migraines”
i see this playin out well for the nets and then cp3 would be next !
i feel alot better about this then LBJ
If Melo insists on not okaying deal, then Nuggets will still try to trade him, but without the S&T. However they would get much less back.
At that point Nuggets would come back to the Nets and accept what ever the Nets have to offer.
Another words, if only Nets and Melo could someone work together (even though illegal), they can force Nuggets to accept what the Nets have to offer.
All Melo or his agent has to do is to read our posts on Nuggets Fan site and he will know what to do.
Since some people in the organization read our remarks, you can bet they already know that fans would be pissed off.
If people were to call in the ticket office with complaints about trading Brook, you can be sure it would get to management.
lol they wouldn't care
The moment Carmelo Anthony is on the Nets, they get 20x the amount of calls looking for season tickets.
Brook isn't getting traded. You are giving comfort to the enemy by just suggesting it.
Even some of the articles about say that Nets should forget about trading Lopez.
They say that Nets and Nuggets should both be patient.
i've posted this before, but it's still valid
Of course, there is also the possibility that the Nets can reshape their team through the trade market. With center Brook Lopez seen as an untouchable, Devin Harris and recently drafted forward Derrick Favors would be the two more likely to be shipped out, possibly together, since they are the most desirable assets the Nets have.
http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/basketball/2010/07/04/2010-07-04_untitled__n4s.html
yeah
since Denver already has Billups and Lawson at the point
"No one stands on the top of the world. Not you, not me, not even gods. But the unbearable vacancy of the throne in the sky is over. From now on...I will be sitting on it."
by MrDollarBills on Aug 30, 2010 1:44 PM EDT up reply actions
that is way too old
Thorn isn’t here anymore to begin with.
Nobody else was reporting that back then, Julian Garcia is clueless, there’s a reason why they replaced him.
okay
but i’m not ready to deny the logic there. in Rod i certainly did trust, and anyone who has joined our front office since his departure needs to recognize his ability to evaluate talent and “play the field” so to speak.
either way, i think we can all agree that lopez is a deal breaker, as he should be.
besides. would Melo want to play with a Brook-less Nets squad? (new team name?)
This is your M.O.
If anyone says anything about negative about Carmelo or a trade, you say “THIS”, or “+1”, or “Exactly”
If anyone says anything reasonable about a trade for him, you act like it’ll destroy the team. Or that the reporter is clueless. Or that there’s no evidence for anything that might support Melo as a great NBA player that wants to play for our team.
Give it a rest please.
OK, now please read that link and tell what does it have to do with this discussion? That’s like 3 months old, when there was an entirely different context (half the roster wasn’t set, the guy making the decision isn’t here anymore, what Garcia says in that article wasn’t reported by any other beat writer), and it was written by a guy, Garcia, who has already been replaced (and thank Lord he was).
Since when am I not entitled to my opinion? I could care less if it bothers you.
but hey if it makes you feel better i’ll do what you want me to.
We need Melo dudde he’s so great, he’s aour savior, we need a superstar dude, melo’s a superstar yeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah
I just want to know Andres
Is there a trade for Melo that you do like? I mean, you have already said no to trading Harris and Murphy (!) for Melo, so I guess the answer is no. Be reasonable.
Nets = Global
Knicks = Local
I mean Harris OR Murphy
You view Lopez, Favors, Harris, Murphy, TWill, et. al. ALL off limits. Be reasonable.
Nets = Global
Knicks = Local
really, I’ve explained this too many times.
I could care less if you agree with me or not. Who are you to tell me to be reasonable, that is condescending and I don’t have to deal with that crap, you disagree with it’s alright, I am not asking you to do so, I have the right to post my opinion here and I’ve backed it up at length with enough arguments and enough times.
How about this trade?
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=2b56cvj
Would you say no to this?
Nets = Global
Knicks = Local
I want to figure out where Andres draws the line
What is his hang-up with obtaining Melo? Is it that he doesn’t want to trade this player, that player…which players are fair game in his mind? Or are NO players fair game in his mind? If so, then sigh.
I agree that Melo by himself won’t win us a championship. Said it in response to the first Melo trade rumor thread. Andres even applauded me for saying that. But by the same token, I do want to obtain him for the right price. Andres seems to be saying NO price is the right price, which is silly just imo.
Nets = Global
Knicks = Local
If we can get Melo withot giving up Brook, Harris, or Favors
then there is no logical reason for this trade to be bad. We are seemingly past the point of a high draft pick. The free agency classes aren’t so great and we only have so little time until a Brook extension ties up our cap space. Unless you’re banking on Durant asking for a trade, there aren’t a gigantic list of guys who will be available via trade if you wanna go that route
Start thinking of trades with Jarvis Hayes in it.
Trade Machine can’t handle Jarvis Hayes.
Don’t waste your time with Trade Machine.
Some people on this site
can’t ignore what what you say man you were right once Troy Murphy for C-Lee ring a bell. Do you think your right again?
Don’t laugh but I don’t think this trade would be bad for us…we would have expiring cntract in Martin and be competitive this year and next yet have money to sign other free agent pf or pg if billups doesn’t remain with us plus we keep lopez and favors
Lebron did not come here
Bosh did not come here
Amare did not come here
Boozer did not come here
We had the same team and owner and lure of brooklyn and all that money
What makes anyone think Melo would come here?
I think we should not get so charged up. Yes, we have draft picks and players and a rich owner, but we had those before…..
Amare got a contract no one else would offer
LeBron and Bosh already talked about this months before free agency even started. Bosh stated they never even talked about Cleveland, or anything else at all.
We also have
—an owner who has since proven he will spend money…on assistant coaches, scouts and other personnel, big trades, cash for trades and partial guarantees, etc. You didnt have that in July.
—an arena that is either on schedule or ahead of schedule. The arena construction had just started in July.
—a full roster of young, athletic players.
—a general manager. Thorn did not help this team by announcing he was leaving before the beginning of free agency…and never enunciating his reasons, leaving open the question of whether he was unhappy with Prokhorov.
Didn't Thorn say he would of stayed if we snared LeBron?
Sounds like Thorn was used to answering to no one during his stay with the Nets. That plus a cut in salary might of told him it was time to go. Thorn always looked out for #1.
he said that AFTER the fact
and again, the point is he wouldnt say why he was leaving. He left the strong impression he was unhappy.
Thorn was offered $8 million over two, according to a very well connected source. Considering 1) he was being paid $5.5 million; 2) his successor got $2 million and Kevin Pritchard was making $800,000; and 2) his team was 12-70, that was a very generous offer,
Is it possible that Thorn already had the Philly offer in his pocket months ago?
Maybe he rather be President then G.M. I somehow think Thorn knew that Philly position was his if he wanted it.
How much is Thorn getting paid by Philly?
This will answer many questions.
Nets = Global
Knicks = Local
I agree with Mike's assessment of the Thorn situation and that he wanted to be more in control of his team and not have to answer to anyone, much less an Irina or Dmitry.
Rod must have already been approached by Phila. by around the time that Dave D. noticed that Rod was hesitant to re-sign. Then by the time he came public he was probably more confident about the Phila. situation. I suppose if LeBron had signed, he would have changed his mind (Thorn out for himself again).
Regarding Proky and Kiki, I believe that having the worst team in NBA, with Kiki as coach, only helped Proky to start from the bottom. Proky had nothing official to do with the 12-70 team.
What isn’t mentioned is that Proky took a big and unusual chance to let Rod work without a contract during the 2 most important weeks of his career, even though he had already announced he wasn’t coming back. That never would have happened if it was known that he was going to Phila.
Obviously it was kept a secret and they waited a week after he stepped down for Phila. to officially contact Rod.
Fortunately for Nets, I can see no evidence that Rod didn’t do what was in the Nets best interest with his deals.
However, remember that when he was leaving, he advised Nets to hold onto Cap Space.
Had Nets listened, they wouldn’t have gotten Murphy. Now that Nets have Murphy, they are a real threat to Phila.
I’m sure Rod knew that Murphy was a possibility. He should have immediately informed the Nets about that possibility before he left. I doubt that happened.
VERY GENEROUS
Especially in light of the fact that Thorn, by all means, could have been fired for being at the helm of a 12-70 team and also hindering the development of the kids by forcing kiki to lay on his sword. There is no reason as to why Kiki should have been head coaching like that unless Thorn had personal motives since Kiki was clearly not qualified to coach.
"No one stands on the top of the world. Not you, not me, not even gods. But the unbearable vacancy of the throne in the sky is over. From now on...I will be sitting on it."
by MrDollarBills on Aug 30, 2010 4:44 PM EDT up reply actions
he had little choice
Barrise was not about to stab his friend in the back. Loyer has no head coaching experience. Nor does Rogers or Overton.
If Brian Hill hadn’t been forced out because of cost cutting, he would have succeeded Frank.
Nets were not permitted to add anyone. Del Harris got $200,000 for his gig as I recall.
It was a mess and I would have had no problem with anyone being canned.
Rod Thorn should be fired
he is an very old, and impotent geezer. Never did a big trade to make this team a contender. he should have got fired more years earlier.
by Jarkid Shen on Aug 30, 2010 11:40 PM EDT up reply actions
and Rod Thorn never wanted to fire Lawrence Frank
and that’s why we couldn’t go to the better stage.
by Jarkid Shen on Aug 30, 2010 11:43 PM EDT up reply actions
well
I do believe that Thorn was loyal to Frank to a fault, but the problem is that Frank was also owed a lot of money and the RAT wasn’t going to pay soem ham and egger 9 million dollars to sit at home and collect checks
"No one stands on the top of the world. Not you, not me, not even gods. But the unbearable vacancy of the throne in the sky is over. From now on...I will be sitting on it."
by MrDollarBills on Aug 31, 2010 9:32 AM EDT up reply actions
yeah
not that i think that it may have changed our fortunes, but Thorn announcing his retirement like that screwed us over because it gave off the appearance that there was instability in the front office.
"No one stands on the top of the world. Not you, not me, not even gods. But the unbearable vacancy of the throne in the sky is over. From now on...I will be sitting on it."
by MrDollarBills on Aug 30, 2010 4:42 PM EDT up reply actions
bang!!!
"No one stands on the top of the world. Not you, not me, not even gods. But the unbearable vacancy of the throne in the sky is over. From now on...I will be sitting on it."
by MrDollarBills on Aug 30, 2010 2:30 PM EDT up reply actions
I say we keep Damion James and tell Carmelo thanks but no thanks..
In his "Rookie Watch: Best of Summer" article, ESPN’s David Thorpe ranked Damion James as the second-best performer at the conclusion of the NBA’s summer league.
Maybe James takes over the SF spot and becomes a star in the process.
Why give up Brook or Harris and draft picks when we have Outlaw and James.
Anybody got one of those "Hooked On Phonics" tapes...
Jakiś czas temu Carmelo Anthony nie podpisał przedłużenia umowy i w … z zespół z tej trójki: Sacramento Kings, New Jersey Nets lub Minnesota Timberwolves. …
lolwut
Some time ago, Carmelo Anthony has not signed the extension agreement and … the band of the three: Sacramento Kings, New Jersey Nets and Minnesota Timberwolves
Consequences will never be the same.
by NetsMets4Life on Aug 30, 2010 2:38 PM EDT up reply actions
oh and its polish
Consequences will never be the same.
by NetsMets4Life on Aug 30, 2010 2:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Why would the Nuggets trade Carmelo to Minnesota?
They are in the same division. Also wouldn’t the Nuggets want to keep Carmelo out of the West. Ship him East where he couldn’t hurt you in the playoffs unless it’s for the title.
yeah
but the Wolves did not have to give up anything for Rubio
Anthony, they would have to give up something, and not even Kahn is that stupid
at least, I don’t believe so.
"No one stands on the top of the world. Not you, not me, not even gods. But the unbearable vacancy of the throne in the sky is over. From now on...I will be sitting on it."
by MrDollarBills on Aug 30, 2010 4:46 PM EDT up reply actions
From a Denver Stiff:
hahaha
I say we keep Melo and hope he gets divorced before the season is over.. Maybe that will keep him in the mile high cow town. Melo would never go to Sactown, Minni, or any other backwater countryside place. Funny that he might end up in a #$%^hole like NJ though. Knicks should pay off a judge and get an injunction prohibiting the Nets from moving to BK. That might help discourage Melo from joining their rival.
Sigh…
Consequences will never be the same.
I thought of the Divorce aspect myself, but those type of relationships taking longer than 1 year for divorce.
Although if Melo went to Minny, that divorce could come quicker.
we have no idea about their relationship, but apparently, if Carmelo became heated enough to put a hit out on a floozy for disrespecting his wife, divorce isn’t in the cards right now
Plus, didn’t they get married like a month ago? SMH
"No one stands on the top of the world. Not you, not me, not even gods. But the unbearable vacancy of the throne in the sky is over. From now on...I will be sitting on it."
by MrDollarBills on Aug 30, 2010 4:50 PM EDT up reply actions
I thought that was an imposter tweet?
Yes, there is no way they divorce in time for that Nuggets fan, but forcing LaLa to live through a Minny winter could speed it up.
It still seems like Nets are the best destination that all sides agree on. And ALL sides will ultimately have to agree, which means that Melo can Nix any talk of trading away Lopez.
i think we bring out the worst in people... and i LOVE it
whether it’s ESPN, knicks fans, or now, apparently, nuggets fans; whenever the NJ Nets are in the discussion, people seem to lose sanity and begin to spew any garbage that will ease their own suffering, however delusional it may be.
I love it
Haters gonna hate. Imagine if we really do land this kid. I probably will end up with an enemies list on SB Nation about a mile long from the trash that I’ll be talking.
I wonder why the Nets generate so much hate?
Maybe we make folks nervous?
"No one stands on the top of the world. Not you, not me, not even gods. But the unbearable vacancy of the throne in the sky is over. From now on...I will be sitting on it."
by MrDollarBills on Aug 30, 2010 4:52 PM EDT up reply actions
LOL @ some yokel from Colorado calling Jersey a you know what hole.
Spare me with that nonsense.
These are the same country mountain bumpkins that go around killing NFL players.
"No one stands on the top of the world. Not you, not me, not even gods. But the unbearable vacancy of the throne in the sky is over. From now on...I will be sitting on it."
by MrDollarBills on Aug 30, 2010 4:49 PM EDT up reply actions
USA losing to Brazil at halftime.
Tune it in on ESPN.
lol good point
Good teamwork can win out in the Olympics and the World’s Championship, but in the NBA, it’s a bit different. We definitely need a stud or two.
US barely survived Brazil’s onslaught
"No one stands on the top of the world. Not you, not me, not even gods. But the unbearable vacancy of the throne in the sky is over. From now on...I will be sitting on it."
by MrDollarBills on Aug 30, 2010 4:54 PM EDT up reply actions
it amazes me how people are hype on Melo
dude is a great scorer but beyond that that’s it.
This is not Kevin Durant, Not lebron James or Wade.
Same people who are saying Terrence Williams need to mature seem to over look Melo.
The whole “stop snitching” BS. Really Melo come on let’s not get twisted you might be from Bodymore but you weren’t exactly Chris, Snoop, Marlo or Omar.
Infact we already know which character you are from your favorite show and it has been pointed out many times.
with that being said. The asking price is for Namond oops I mean Melo is too much.
Until dude matures on and off the court and bring something more to the table than scoring I’m not impressed.
by killa kadafi191 on Aug 30, 2010 3:45 PM EDT reply actions 4 recs
You might be interested in this...
Talking about Anthony and maturity… On internet about 10 minutes ago.
Good lord dude
You are really so far off your rocker today – are you actually saying that Carmelo isn’t fictional characters from an HBO show?
What does this have to do with anything?
Why are you hating on this man SO hard?
You keep saying the asking price is too much when you don’t even know what the asking price IS. Just give it a rest. Go back to the Knicks forum or something.
stop telling people what they should do
it’s you the one who should go to a Nuggets forum and wave the pom poms and root for you boy Melo if it bothers yout hat much that people here don’t believe he’s as great as you think he is
95% of this forum
would jump for joy if the Nets traded for Melo without giving up Lopez and if by some miracle not Favors.
you guys do realize
that the number of posters in this thread could be counted on two hands…and there are more than 1,500 registered members.
This is NOT a representative sample of Nets fans or even of the posters on this site.
Whatever happened to LupoJohn?? xD
I was expecting him to come on and talk about MElo same way he did about Lebron.
~AC24
hahahahahahaha
what I offended you.
Sorry but not a Knick fan and sorry but most Nets fans are not willing to sell their soul for a Carmelo.
I truely doubt winning is the most important thing to you because if it was you would see the flaws in trading a player like Brook for Melo.
You can’t even make it seem logically. Only thing you are interesting in is your hero coming to a team with no big man.
Heck it seems any trade scnerio would be okay with you.
While others have said if the asking price is Brook walk away.
Are you so far off your rocker you actually feel trading a player who in his third season is already seen as the 3rd best center in the league for a player who in his 8 season has failed to mature to the player many expected him to be.
A player who has failed to be the leader of his team.
Also if you know anything about the show. You know Namond is a character who feels just because of where he is from he has to act hoodish and gangsta.
Now what basketball player does that remind you. Is it one who is seen endorsing the ridiculous stop snitching movement.
Again you can’t debate. Anyone who disagrees with you or is not on their hands and knees praising all glory to Carmelo is a knick fan.
Get a Life or rent one please.
by killa kadafi191 on Aug 30, 2010 4:56 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Childish, but since you obviously haven't read anything I've said
I’ll talk to you again like a grown up and hope it sticks.
From an owner’s perspective in business, Carmelo is worth so much more than Lopez it’s not even funny. Therefore, to say there’s no way Lopez is on the table is just illogical.
It’s just insane that you are even talking about a fictional HBO show when my comments have been from the point of view of business.
I’m not even sure you know what the term “debate” is when the title of your responses is almost always “hahahahahhaa”. Hilarious indeed.
Oh from a business point of view
now I could have sworn you said winning is the most important thing to you but you are more interesting in jersey sells, televise games, Carmelo anthony bobble head nights.
Okay let me talk to you like an adult.
We already had people in our front office who were more focus on dollar signs than the number of wins in the win column.
Ask the Spurs who didn’t get high ratings, who didn’t have a player in top ten of jersey sells, who always when played in the finals had record low in ratings. Do they wish they had a player who would benefit from a business point of view or winning.
You seeing this from a business point of view no wonder you are wetting yourself from the idea of Melo suiting up.
You are not thinking will the Nets have enough to compete with a Miami team who have three of his peers on the same team.
An Orlando team that has the leagues dominate big man on their team
Or the other deep teams in the east.
No you are thinking about dollar signs, jersey sells and etc etc etc.
So you are all about that mighty dollar that’s good now I see why you are willing to sellout so fast.
by killa kadafi191 on Aug 30, 2010 5:17 PM EDT up reply actions
You don't seem to get his point
He’s saying that because of Carmelo’s marketability, Lopez MAY be moved because our management feels that’s what needs to be done. So yes, it is foolish to think Lopez is untouchable. I would also refrain from “lololols” and telling people to “get a life” while having an argument..it does indeed reflect poorly on you.
what are you even talking about?
seriously.
an NBA franchise is a business. and the fastest way for that business to succeed is to win championships.
and what exactly are we “selling out”
we went 12-70 last year and have a (almost) COMPLETELY new team ready to take the floor. who’s to say that making a HUGE signing in this offseason is selling out?
Well
I’m a Knick fan because I don’t agree with duke? Get the F out of here. I’m tell him to get a life and kiss my rear at the same time.
and where in my post have I said Lopez is untouchable?
HAHAHA read it again. Now Lopez for Carmelo Anthony? Heck no. Now as Dollar said. Melo wants to join the Nets in the offseason and we keep everyone that’s all good but having our team gutted for a guy who only scores and been out of the first round once since being in the NBA and has off the court and maturity problems???
Please. You can never sell that to me.
Melo is not the difference between us and a championship.
If we are able to keep Brook and Favors I’m for it.
selling out is when you are focus more on money than winning. I didn’t say making a huge signing is selling out but acquiring a player because you only see the benefits that he brings to your pockets and instead of on the court than yea you are selling out.
Sorry let me be one to say this.
A team with Melo minus Brook Lopez isn’t seeing none of the top teams in the East.
Hell if money couldn’t get out of the first round when the West was a problem how you figure he will do in the East.
Maybe you guys are already picturing the nights where Melo scores 45 and we still lose.
As I said I’m all for him coming in the off season or being obtain in a way that doesn’t gut our team but for what he brings to table and to a basketball team he isn’t worth this team being gutted.
by killa kadafi191 on Aug 30, 2010 5:32 PM EDT up reply actions
THIS to Killa...
And Melo looks like he is potted up in this picture…..
no one believes that.
he might as well said the dog at my homework.
This dude tries to hard to be hood and as many people have pointed out he isn’t.
He said something about Game and Game basically goes to rucker and puts an end to it.
As Game said. Stick to the basketball court and leave the streets alone.
by killa kadafi191 on Aug 30, 2010 3:50 PM EDT reply actions
Not that being hood is a good thing...
But Game can’t even talk, he’s not hood either. Before he became a big time rapper, The Game used to have blonde hair and a tongue ring and his girlfriend dumped him on that tv dating show “change of heart”. It’s easy to pretend you’re hood when you have thousands of dollars to pay gang bangers to do stuff for you.
by TheMann2 on Aug 30, 2010 4:43 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
in this discussion about malcontents and carmelo anthony...
the only malcontents are the Nets fans would wanted to destroy the front office when we were unable to land one of the wonder triplets of south beach; yet now that another HUGE name player is being talked about, all that seems to be said is what is wrong with carmelo and how he’ll destroy this team.
this team didn’t exist two months ago. it’s all new this season. anyone who is married to idea that role players and trade bait that we’ve acquired over the last two months are anything more than just that, role players and trade bait, i think are selling the organization short. everyone’s a pawn on this team right now. brook is the king, and favors is the queen (no homo).
the rest are pawns, rooks and bishops, and we’ll glady move them around and sacrifice them for the greater good. at least i sure would.
as Denzel once said, “this is chess, it ain’t checkers.”
I love training day
the thing about Training Day.
Where did Jake get in trouble.
When he said he would do anything Alonzo wanting him to do. He wasn’t thinking about what was right or wrong just the approval of Alonzo.
Now we are in similar situation do we make a move just to gain a big name. Now when I say big name let me say this is not someone who can be compared with his peers.
This is a guy who is phenomenal scorer but beyond that it’s over. Now if this was a Lebron Wade or Kevin Durant. No question you trade Brook.
But Carmelo Anthony???? HAHAHAHAHAH No. People are still waiting for him to become the player and leader they envision when he enter the league.
“the shhhh is chess, it ain’t checkers”
So we need to think and examine every move wisely.
by killa kadafi191 on Aug 30, 2010 5:08 PM EDT up reply actions
wow.
i agree, but please stop with the assumption that brook is even involved in the discussion.
the nuggets here two sounds when they bring up brook… *click and a dialtone
I want Carmelo on this team
but the nets really need to keep Lopez, Favors, and Harris.
Carmelo, Harris, and Lopez alone would be good enough to get this team to the playoffs.
add Favors and u might have a team that could play with Miami and the Lakers.
Like I’ve been saying
Twill, James, money, and a crap load of picks
after this with shooters like Morrow, Outlaw, and Murphy coming off the bench…
the nets would be SOO good
I really hope its not gonna be Twill, Favors, and picks going out
All depends on upper management
If Prokhorov feels he has to have Melo to begin his dynasty (and you couldn’t blame him for wanting one of the NBA’s most elite), then some players we didn’t think were tradeable might suddenly be tradeable.
I still think history has shown that the Nets wouldn’t have to give up much. The issue here is that we have to be better than the other team in the trading battle.
Some of you guys are trashing Twolves, but Rubio and Melo would be a formidable combination. Add to that Wes Johnson and Love rebounding, not a bad team. We really can’t be thinking any team is worse than us! Sure, I get he’s not going to the Twolves, but we are closer to the Twolves than to the Rockets.
I want Ricky on the Nets
forget Melo, get RICKY! ahaha The kid knows how to play.
by danxcr on Aug 30, 2010 4:35 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
And that's also assuming they wouldn't trade one of those guys to get Melo (who would they trade to get for him then)
And that Melo would be there long enough to possibly see Rubio with the wolves. Which isn’t happening this season. Sooo no
Pretty simple, go look at what everybody is saying about the
Almost every single person is saying “Where are the superstars Kobe, Lebron and Melo!”
Nobody is asking where Roy is.
Melo is one of the top 3 scorers in the league. As in, scores at WILL.
actually, its more like kobe, lebron, wade, and durant
and then Melo probably..i mean the guy averaged 28 points per game…he’s a dynamite scorer.
but Roy does everything well.
Durant is only proving himself international now
And they wouldn’t be anywhere without him. He’s an amazing player, and a bright spot as a fan. The type of guy you pay to go see play.
But people want to see the “stars” they know so well: Kobe, Lebron + Melo. At least that’s what I keep reading.
It's more that he's a beast
An absolute scoring machine, one of those players that is pretty much unstoppable. Along the lines of Kobe, Wade, Lebron and Durant.
He’s got some issues with defense here and there, but he’s just a pure scoring machine and is one of the top 3 in the NBA at it.
unstoppable?
a guy who averages 42% from the field in the playoffs for his career is unstoppable now. Right.
and if you reply to this I’d appreciate it if you tried to do it sticking to the discussion and the point I made. thank you.
not stellar...
but he was playing basketball in the playoffs. too many of our guys don’t even know what that’s like, and without carmelo, they may not.
From 03-04 to 07-08
He averaged 21.1 ppg on 38.9% FG in 23 games
The last 2 years, he averaged 28.1 ppg on 45.7% FG in 22 games
by muwu on Aug 30, 2010 5:25 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Not to mention raising his assists from 2.1 to 3.9
His steals from 0.8 to 1.8
by muwu on Aug 30, 2010 5:30 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
The punch at MSG set him back a couple years
But he has returned to what he was projected to be.
Nets = Global
Knicks = Local
THNK YOU SIR!!!!
Ive been waiting for someone to repost this i post this some time back. His last couple of years is what matter career numbers mean nothing!
Um my man
KOBE BRYANT is 44%
Are you saying Kobe isn’t unstoppable either?
By your logic, Tyrus Thomas is the best player out there right now, since he lead the league in FG% in the playoffs last year.
KOBE BRYANT is 44%
.448. That is pretty decent. .424 isn’t.
And you also have to take into account that
a) during his first two season, Bryant was a role player who averaged just 15 and 20mpg in the playoffs, with poor shooting pcts. Not making excuses, but you can’t ignore that.
b) Bryant brings more to the table than just scoring. He can create for his teammates and somewhat make up for his poor shooting when his offensive game isn’t working.
By your logic, Tyrus Thomas is the best player out there right now, since he lead the league in FG% in the playoffs last year.
Oh, come on. Thomas is not a go to guy who takes 20+ shots a night.
So the difference between legendary
And not worth trading Twill for is a difference of a FG percentage of 2.4%
That means over the course of 100 shots, Kobe makes 2.4 more buckets than Carmelo.
And to you, that is a clear separation?
no, the difference is 5 rings.
and please cut the crap to reduce this to TWill.
and again you’re not taking into account the 2 points I made in my previous post.
One of the things I don’t like about Carmelo is that he doesnt make up for his inefficient offensive game come playoff time with the ability to make his teammate better. that’s something that separates guys like Bryant, James and Wade from him, not only there offensive games melts down in the psotseason the way Melo’s does, they also make everyone around them better, which is something melo can’t do.
sorry
I meant to say
not only their offensive games don’t melt down in the postseason the way Melo’s does
No the point is
You are searching desperately to find statistics to support your argument that Carmelo isn’t a franchise player, despite the fact that he puts up numbers that exceed/equal the absolutely very best in the game.
If you are willing to accept that we weren’t as bad as a 12 win team last year, and that other factors played a role, then you have to logically accept the idea that Carmelo just hasn’t been part of a winning opportunity yet.
That means players, coaches, assistants, scouts, motivation, city, etc. etc. etc.
James and Wade
oh did we watch the same games you know 2010 playoffs.
I... would give the edge to Melo
Roy hasn’t shown an ability to stay healthy, isn’t the best defender in the world as well, isn’t as potent of a scorer. The only advantage is the playmaking skills since he’s practically their point guard
it’s a very close call. I’d take Roy over Anthony because he can make his teammates better and even if he doesn’t score as much he scores at an elite level and at the same time can do other things to help this win basketball games when his offensive game isn’t working.
to be fair Melo didn't lead his team past the first round
that was Billups. Who assume leadership only being on the team a couple months.
Roy has atleast shown more maturity than Melo
by killa kadafi191 on Aug 30, 2010 4:58 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah it was more like Billups that got Denver past the 1rst round
but was Denver’s team ever really that good?
I mean Nene is OK and K Mart is decent when not injured..but the nuggets team outside of Melo didn’t ahve a great team…especially with AI on the team…what a nightmrea…both Melo and AI barking out for th eball
so what?
did I say he has to explain why I think I’d take him over Anthony?
what’s your point?
I know where you want to go, but I’m sorry to tell you it’s pointless since I didn’t say Roy is a guy who can lead you to a championship, I actually put him at a similar level to Melo, get it? And anyways Roy’s been in the league just 4 years, his rookie contract just expired. I don’t think he’s a guy who you can build a championship contender around, I think he’s someone of Melo’s level, but I give him the edge because he’s been around less years and has still time to prove more, and because, unlike Anthony, he brings to the table more than just scoring (which he does at an elite level anyways even if he doesn’t score 30 points a night).
LOL!!
What a shocker.
Twill over Anthony.
Cousins over Anthony.
Outlaw over Anthony.
Jarvis Hayes over Anthony.
Someone on the Nets facebook group
suggested we forget about Carmelo and go after…get ready…
Etan thomas and
brace yourself..
Anthony Johnson.
well we DO need someone to slap the floor with a towel if/when our boys make a big shot. i say sign anthony johnson up!
Remember when he went OFF for Indiana
Against us in the playoffs?
He had like 30+ points if I recall correctly.
lol
"No one stands on the top of the world. Not you, not me, not even gods. But the unbearable vacancy of the throne in the sky is over. From now on...I will be sitting on it."
by MrDollarBills on Aug 30, 2010 8:51 PM EDT up reply actions
i think the nay-sayers are underplaying this small fact:
carmelo anthony + george karl = good, almost MVP level
carmelo anthony + avery johnson = potentially great, MVP candidate for years to come (can fill in the missing pieces of his game; i.e. playmaking ability, court vision (Avery was a point guard, can manage big egos) and DEFENSE)
George Karl before
Chauncey didn’t priase defense as much especially with A.I. and Miller on his teams no defense meaning 106ppg not good Avery is a more well rounded coach who doesn’t need a defensive minded player to praise defense over offense.
@ Andres, I see you in the thread
Please answer this, would you do this trade? It’s very important that you answer this question.
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=2b56cvj
Nets = Global
Knicks = Local
He would say no
he would even make a book on why that trade would suck. Murphy is the best three pnt shooter best rebounder ross and hump warm up the bench prety good etc etc.
I am with killa
I am ok with gettin Melo but not at the price off gutting our team (giving up Lopez and Favors). We need those two to stay. As much as I love Terrence and James, I would give them up. Plus our surplus of picks, and Humphries and Ross as expiring deals.
See Dancer
people don’t get that.
Dollar Andres and the rest of us are not saying Melo wouldn’t be a good addition to this team of course he would but not at the results of getting gutted.
The thing is Brook is not untouchable but in regards to Carmelo heck no I wouldn’t trade him.
As Dollar pointed out. The one weakness to the Miami Heat is their front court. Now Brook in his third season is consider the 3rd best center in the league.
His third season.
Melo in his 8th is still a player who only brings scoring to the table.
I know where the ceiling will be with a team of Melo minus brook.
A team with Brook and Favors (if he develops the right way) is scary.
What I also find so ironic is that the same people who were saying be patient with Favors are now saying dude could be a bust,
Whoaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa so all of sudden you ready to dump dude now??
I’m all for the Nets being a better team at the end of the day.
by killa kadafi191 on Aug 30, 2010 6:30 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Yup
No one is saying that Melo wouldnt be a good addition to our current team, but to take away vital young pieces to get him is plain stupid. We would be stuck in the same situation, plus Melo would want out after not making the playoffs or making the playoffs then getting bounced in 4 games.
We already threw away a season last year, lets not make the same mistake again by throwing our future core away.
amen!
"No one stands on the top of the world. Not you, not me, not even gods. But the unbearable vacancy of the throne in the sky is over. From now on...I will be sitting on it."
by MrDollarBills on Aug 31, 2010 9:46 AM EDT up reply actions
I much rather hold on to the team we have and make a run for Deron williams. We can get a scoring 3 at any time in the future, they fall out of trees. Twill has the tools to be a great player, as does Lopez and Favors, even Djames looks like a keeper.
Giving up Murphy is going to hurt our front court too much. I think we win more games with our current team than a team with Melo but minus Murphy and twill.
Seriously?
I cant tell if you are being serious.
Consequences will never be the same.
by NetsMets4Life on Aug 30, 2010 8:35 PM EDT up reply actions
No i am very serious. The last team has no superstar on it but its more balanced and then you have a very deep bench backing up every position. Thats a team. If we trade twill and murphy who is the back up sg? who backs up favors once he gets in fould trouble (which he will) hump and may?? cmon.
Outlaw is then pushed back to a backup sf, not the reason why we gave him his contract.
The lineup i would be happy with that includes melo is:
harris
twill
melo
murphy
lopez
If this can happen i will do a cartwheel.
I Know your joking man
good one I know you would never think Anthony on your team only giving up Decent players will make your team worse plus how many games do you see the Nets winning with Williams and Murphy instead of Anthony 60, 70 maybe 73?
Actually this trade can happen
Favors(Has not played an NBA Game could be a bust)
James(Has not played an NBA Game could be a bust)
Hump (3rd string)
Hayes (re-signed to 4.2 million)
Boone(re-signed to 4.2 Million)
3 Million in cash
2 Picks
for
Anthony
Balkman
The Nets will have
Harris/Farmar
Willimas/Morrow/Ross
Anthony/Outlaw(he can play some 4 especillay with Melo)
Murphy/May/Balkman
Lopez/Petro
Beast team at least 4th in east.
I believe the Nets renounced Boone's rights
So they can’t sign & trade him. If you want to get enough outgoing salary without including Murphy or Harris, it would be something like Favors+TWitt+Hump+Hayes+Ross+cash/picks for just Melo.
What Deron Williams are you talking about becuase it is not the one from Utah
Deron Williams is not leaving the Jazz any time soon.
The Deron WIlliams
that goes by Terrence
"I don't care if you gotta FLY... You bettah have my doughNUTS!"
Order of importance to me in regards to our young players.
1.Lopez
2.Favors
3.T-will
4.James
5.Harris
6.Morrow
7.Outlaw
8.Farmar
I put James and T-will ahead of Harris because of their age and potential.
However, suppose it comes down to Favors or TWill+DJames ?
That is how I see it realistically.
TWill+ DJames could help short term and there is some uncertainty.
Favors won’t help much for several years and also has uncertainty.
Denver would probably take much less in a deal including Favors and they probably would even wait until Outlaw was available to include in trade.
From Proky’s standpoint, he would probably accept trading Favors if it meant being a contender for most of the next 5 years.
If you keep Favors but trade TWil + DJames (plus someone else of value), then you definitely will hold back the Nets short term.
Thats what I was gioinf to post but was to lazy
and din’t know how to put it together
Simple if the Nuggets want to contend soone they would go for T-Will more NBAready but would set back the Nets if the Nuggets want to to the process of rebiulding slow then they would go for Favors and Nets would have the team to win now or never.
Favors is a mystery man. No one knows his value, but it appears to be pretty high now, but could decrease once the seaon begins.
Coach Mitchell may be the one best able to assess Favors value.
I doubt many people expect him to ever be better (all around) than Melo is now, but Favors could have say 8 more productive years. The question is will Favors be at AllStar level for those years? That will be the 100 million dollar question that Mitchell and others will have to answer, possibly before seeing him play in the NBA!
Perhaps if Nets wanted to make the trade before the season begins, they could include Favors, and demand that Denver take Junk for the balance of the deal. Favors is probably a more valuable piece that anything the Denver could hope for from the other teams.
However, once the season begins, Denver may have 2nd thoughts when they see how raw Favors is.
If Nets try to offer TWill + DJames, that wouldn’t be enough for Denver and Nets would really suffer short term.
Finally people are getting too sidetracked by trying to test trades with the ESPN trade machine.
Not only does ESPN show their true colors by trying to minimize any talk about Melo to Nets (they favor their Knicks fans), but their trade machine doesn’t consider certain possibilities that could help solve the potential matching salary situation.
We need to hear more about including Jarvis Hayes or any other fillers that Bobby Marks could come up with.
I also wonder if it would be possible to re-negotiate Murphy’s contract to be less for this year, in order to re-sign Hayes for more salay – and everything be conditional on a trade for Melo?
Anyone wish to comment on the near blown game vs. Brazil today?
I think Coach K. did a bad job to not try other combinations to get some offense.
In particular, he stuck with Odom way too much. I don’t even like Odom to play Center, especially when the announcer kept saying he needed a rest. Odom continued to screw up after that, going out of bounds, missing layups, etc.
Kevin Love has done well everytime he has played and he would have neutralized Splitter, if not forced the 3 Brazilians to pick up their 5th foul. Not a single Brazilian fouled out – that is USA’s fault to not follow through.
I hope they wait
We would have a lot of leverage near the trading deadline plus additional trading options. Id pass on Melo unless its for harris and outlaw (draft picks) and twill has shown he will excell at pg. That is all denver should get because he can walk. Maybe a throwin murphy and take back kmart to give favors a change of mentors
Waiting is definitely an option as long as either Melo or Denver is thinking the same thing.
That will give Nets time to see just what talent they have. Maybe TWill can play the SG and PG effectively?
Maybe DJames will be ready to start at SF.
By waiting a few months, Outlaw becomes available as well as the other free agents.
Favors’ value could increase or decrease, but at least the Nets will have a better idea in a few months.
As long as Nets are “dangling” the possibility of trading Favors, Denver may hold off on any offers from other teams.
And if Nets prove that they are competing for a playoff spot (as I am betting), Melo may become more eager than ever to join the Nets.
Melo could single out the Nets as the only team he wishes to go to. That would decrease the value of the package from the Nets.
Carmelo Police report filed.....
http://twitter.com/iHateKatStacks/status/22559707926
This dude does not need the NYC spotlight on him. trust me!
hahahah
the price may have just dropped.
This is going to get ugly.
"No one stands on the top of the world. Not you, not me, not even gods. But the unbearable vacancy of the throne in the sky is over. From now on...I will be sitting on it."
by MrDollarBills on Aug 30, 2010 8:58 PM EDT up reply actions
?
Teams might not be as interested in him because now he could could be in legal trouble. Who wants to deal with that?
His value might just be plummeting.
Consequences will never be the same.
by NetsMets4Life on Aug 30, 2010 9:01 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah
depends on if the police report being filed stuff is true.
"No one stands on the top of the world. Not you, not me, not even gods. But the unbearable vacancy of the throne in the sky is over. From now on...I will be sitting on it."
by MrDollarBills on Aug 30, 2010 9:05 PM EDT up reply actions
Melo might want to take that Denver money before it disappears.
The report says that the FBI is involved.
Isn’t there a way to checkout Melo’s claim that his site was hijacked?
He WAS supposedly in China working on some sort of secret movie, afterall.
That woman
….is also known for lying and setting celebrities stupid enough to deal with her up. She already set up rapper “Soulja Boy” by video taping him in a hotel room with lines of coke on the table. She’s an opportunist prostitute, and I think that the major media outlets aren’t touching the story because the stuff about the FBI and the police report could be false.
It’s not even worth pursuing IMO, if someone really did run out and knocked her block off, she deserved it because what she did was quite disrespectful to Anthony and his wife. But Carmelo’s not 19 anymore, he’s 26 and needs to learn when to just walk away.
"No one stands on the top of the world. Not you, not me, not even gods. But the unbearable vacancy of the throne in the sky is over. From now on...I will be sitting on it."
by MrDollarBills on Aug 31, 2010 9:50 AM EDT up reply actions
ESPN doesn't even talk about Melo anymore since the Nets Wolves and Kings have been in the dicussion
Right
ESPN would take a big loss if Melo went to Wolves.
Would they telecast Wolves games for their late doubleheaders, instead of Nuggets?
And I would love to be a fly on the wall to hear what pressure is put on ESPN to favor Knicks over Nets.
the pressure is high
ESPN is a sham.
Stories should be dictated by the truth, not by agendas.
And why is Michelle Beadle stuck doing lame shows like SportsNation when she could be doing sideline reporting for the NBA telecasts?
"No one stands on the top of the world. Not you, not me, not even gods. But the unbearable vacancy of the throne in the sky is over. From now on...I will be sitting on it."
by MrDollarBills on Aug 31, 2010 9:54 AM EDT up reply actions
I thought Melo said someone hijacked his account?
Whatever happened, this should buy some time for everyone, which I think is good.
Melo is immature to begin with. Bout time he realizes what a good thing he has.
I think the whole "Hacked twitter" thing is BS
Consequences will never be the same.
by NetsMets4Life on Aug 30, 2010 9:03 PM EDT up reply actions
I think that was a blatant lie, unless LaLa’s account was hacked as well.
"No one stands on the top of the world. Not you, not me, not even gods. But the unbearable vacancy of the throne in the sky is over. From now on...I will be sitting on it."
by MrDollarBills on Aug 30, 2010 9:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Melo flew off the handle, not LaLa
LaLa is probably trying to save his behind by saying that it was hacked.
Stupid stuff all around. They should have blocked that chick, she knew exactly what she was doing by making those comments towards Anthony
"No one stands on the top of the world. Not you, not me, not even gods. But the unbearable vacancy of the throne in the sky is over. From now on...I will be sitting on it."
by MrDollarBills on Aug 31, 2010 9:55 AM EDT up reply actions
her latest tweet
Omg @50cent is being rude answering my fan calls…
Hes being rude because you are an ugly attention W***e who’s desperate for celebrity.
Consequences will never be the same.
by NetsMets4Life on Aug 30, 2010 8:59 PM EDT up reply actions
I beg to differ. She is all make up. Fake people like her disgust me. There are countless more women who are nicer looking than her.
Consequences will never be the same.
by NetsMets4Life on Aug 31, 2010 12:29 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
dammit. didnt realize she was giving the finger.
You are probably going to remove that NI. Please go ahead. I didnt realize .
Consequences will never be the same.
by NetsMets4Life on Aug 31, 2010 12:30 AM EDT up reply actions
BANHAMMER
j/k
but if you didnt put the subject line id lobby you to be banned. thats scary.
Consequences will never be the same.
by NetsMets4Life on Aug 31, 2010 1:18 AM EDT up reply actions
I didn't mean to be obscene... just wanted to point out uncanny resemblance
I guess NI should remove both our pics.
Can you get a photo of the 3 women, from the movie called "The Human Centipede"?
That would be more disgusting and pleasurable at the same time.
sorry thought you were talking about LaLa
Yeah Kat is GROSS
by eLonepb on Aug 31, 2010 3:20 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
that woman is a disgusting trollop
and she probably has STDs.
Anyone who interacts with her is an idiot, period.
"No one stands on the top of the world. Not you, not me, not even gods. But the unbearable vacancy of the throne in the sky is over. From now on...I will be sitting on it."
by MrDollarBills on Aug 31, 2010 10:00 AM EDT up reply actions
What the hell is Netsdaily.com becoming
all this Melo talk is getting pathetic…
I hope he is traded already so this nonsense ends.
"I want to win, I want the team to win and I'm in complete control."
-Coach Avery Johnson.
by Andy. on Aug 30, 2010 11:54 PM EDT reply actions 3 recs
+1
And there is entirely too much bickering. Come on guys, let’s focus on the Nets as opposed to fighting each other; the comments are becoming slightly annoying to read.
by corky_romano4life on Aug 31, 2010 12:04 AM EDT up reply actions
true
I wish we’d know whether we’re going to stay the course or change things up
It makes for fun discussion IMO though. It gives us a chance to evaluate what we need on this roster to compete with the best teams.
"No one stands on the top of the world. Not you, not me, not even gods. But the unbearable vacancy of the throne in the sky is over. From now on...I will be sitting on it."
by MrDollarBills on Aug 31, 2010 10:05 AM EDT up reply actions
NBA.com
I saw this article on NBA.com and thought you guys might be interested, it talks about a potential Jamal Crawford trade for Carmelo. http://hangtime.blogs.nba.com/2010/08/30/summer-solutions/?ls=iref:nbahpt1
I would like Carmelo
But I don’t wanna lose any of our guys besides Hayes, Humphris, and Ross so no deal.
Jon Rothstein Twitter
Hearing from an #NBA league source that the #Nets are not including Brook Lopez in any trade discussions w #Nuggets 4 Carmelo Anthony
New Jersey’s package will consist of Derrick Favors, Devin Harris, and a slew of draft picks…#Nets have 9 first round picks in next 2 yrs
-Say man when I was growing up we wanted a Jacuzzi, we had to fart in the tub.
Favors and Harris is too much to give up
Nooooo.
Take out Favors and put in TWill.
Nets = Global
Knicks = Local
I say keep TWill
Melo, TWill and Lopez would be a great trio…
Ideally, much rather give up TWill and Favors so we can keep Devin
Devin Melo Lopez :)
-Say man when I was growing up we wanted a Jacuzzi, we had to fart in the tub.
No
I’d rather keep Favors. We need size, rebounding, and shotblocking
The only plus to a deal like that is that we can keep Murphy but now we’ll have to be in the market for another power forward and we’ll have to find a way to get another PG.
waitaminute.
It makes no sense because now we’d have Anthony, Outlaw, and James in a log jam at the three. Denver would feasibly need a perimeter guy in return also? Maybe we can trade them James as well and get Lawson in return?
Also, if we don’t trade Murph and keep his expiring deal, would we have enough caproom to make a run for Al Horford in the summer?
Lopez-Horford-Anthony could be a dominating frontcourt.
"No one stands on the top of the world. Not you, not me, not even gods. But the unbearable vacancy of the throne in the sky is over. From now on...I will be sitting on it."
by MrDollarBills on Aug 31, 2010 10:23 AM EDT up reply actions
Al Horford as a PF?
You mean in a trade?
Consequences will never be the same.
by NetsMets4Life on Aug 31, 2010 11:09 AM EDT up reply actions
I was pondering getting him in FA
but mind you, I have no idea what the numbers would look like if we were to trade for Melo, extend him, while retaining Murphy’s expiring.
"No one stands on the top of the world. Not you, not me, not even gods. But the unbearable vacancy of the throne in the sky is over. From now on...I will be sitting on it."
by MrDollarBills on Aug 31, 2010 11:56 AM EDT up reply actions
Favors, Harris, and Draft picks?
Why are we giving up draft picks if Favors is included?
Are they going to send us Ty Lawson in return as well?
Otherwise, meh.
"No one stands on the top of the world. Not you, not me, not even gods. But the unbearable vacancy of the throne in the sky is over. From now on...I will be sitting on it."
by MrDollarBills on Aug 31, 2010 10:15 AM EDT up reply actions
Hey man I didn't write it
Only posted it
-Say man when I was growing up we wanted a Jacuzzi, we had to fart in the tub.
The messenger must die
"No one stands on the top of the world. Not you, not me, not even gods. But the unbearable vacancy of the throne in the sky is over. From now on...I will be sitting on it."
by MrDollarBills on Aug 31, 2010 10:48 AM EDT up reply actions
Yeah that number I dont think is right. I think its something like 10 picks in five years.
Consequences will never be the same.
by NetsMets4Life on Aug 31, 2010 11:08 AM EDT up reply actions
I don't know but
I hope he’s right. Hey, let me dream, okay? ;)
My takeaway from this is that we went from including Lopez, to now no Lopez, and by the time the deal goes down, it’ll be no Lopez and no Favors. So I’m happy he’s reporting this. The media frequently “offer up” too much, so I like the way this is progressing.
Nets = Global
Knicks = Local
Even though IMO NBA reporters talk out of their rear ends,
if this is even remotely true, I would be really pissed.
Favors should be a keeper. If they want harris and 4 draft picks I am cool with that. But to include Favors and a “slew of draft picks” is TOO MUCH.
This would REALLY SUCK!!!!!!!
Keep Favors and Lopez. As much as I like Twill, I would rather trade him then Favors.
Not crazy about this deal.
If the Nuggets want Harris and Favors I do this:
Harris
Favors
Picks
3 million
for
Anthony
Lawson
My preference would be swap Favors with Humphries and Denver’s choice of Williams or James.
Harris
Humphries
Williams OR James
Picks
3 million
for
Anthony
Lawson.
Consequences will never be the same.
exactly
if they want Harris, give us Lawson.
"No one stands on the top of the world. Not you, not me, not even gods. But the unbearable vacancy of the throne in the sky is over. From now on...I will be sitting on it."
by MrDollarBills on Aug 31, 2010 11:58 AM EDT up reply actions
Hey next time you see that Knicks troll semsemma on here:
take a peep at the crap that he’s been talking about us over on his board:
http://www.postingandtoasting.com/2010/8/29/1656645/nuggets-trying-to-send-melo-to-the#45608856
the untouchables by commity are: lopez, favors, and harris…wft lol.
Ive seen most agreeing that terrence williams, james, a few 1sts and a additional 2nd rnder is better than letting favors go. Now i know yall be on that gallo juice..but this is some homer s—- right here. Not even homer s—-, but dumb s—-.
Just a heads up, so folks will know what to do when that uneducated dullard comes over here trying to talk.
"No one stands on the top of the world. Not you, not me, not even gods. But the unbearable vacancy of the throne in the sky is over. From now on...I will be sitting on it."
Knicks fans are some of the stupidest and most ignorant people in basketball.
And that’s a fact.
Consequences will never be the same.
by NetsMets4Life on Aug 31, 2010 3:50 PM EDT up reply actions
best, most fair deal i could think of
harris, favors and humph and pick for melo and ty lawson… salaries match… we get a PG to help fill that void in return and they get a promising young big man in favors(WHO IM NOT SOLD ON…WHY DO U PEOPLE THINK HES THE REAL DEAL 12+8 at g-tech?not imressed) and harris. Obviously melo would have to agree to anextension prior to the trade but the salaries do match and this is somethin id go thru with.probelm: logjam at sf/sg… maybe outlaw would back up at the 4.
OR(this one is to our benefit and dont think they would accept it)
harris, d james, t-will and hump and multiple picks for melo and lawson… this trade would be ideal for the nets. Just dont see the nuggets taking it though
If that's the offer that bested another team's offer
(and Melo agreed to a S&T), then I’d say yes.
But, I would sure like to find a way to keep Favors.
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