NetsDaily Off-Season Report #18
It's a movie! Here's the plot line: an evil genius of a coach plans a return to the top, and aided by a madcap Russian billionaire, he clones his former team...or something like that! We say green light this baby! We look at "Dallas II: Revenge of the Clones!"; update just how new it all is after the trade; talk about Melo, the Knicks, Nuggets and Nets; offer some possibilities for training camp invites; congratulate Sean May on his second new contract in two weeks; find out just how much of an Angeleno Jordan Farmar is; reminisce with Brian Zoubek on when the earth stood still and think about how the name change fits into the bigger picture.
Every Sunday, we’ll be updating the Nets’ off-season with bits and pieces of information, gossip, etc. to help take the edge off missing the playoffs, relying on the Nets’ beat reporters and others who have slipped interesting stuff into larger stories and blogs...not to mention our own reporting.
Dallas II: Revenge of the Clones!
Avery Johnson directs this blockbuster sequel...a multi-million dollar, spare no expense. remake of the team that won 60 and 67 games in back-to-back years!!
Starring Mikhail Prokhorov as Marc Cuban, Troy Murphy as Dirk Nowitzki, Travis Outlaw as Josh Howard, Anthony Morrow as Jason Terry and Devin Harris as Himself.
Also featuring Terrence Williams as Jerry Stackhouse, Damion James as Devean George, Quinton Ross as Greg Buckner, Brian Zoubek as Pavel Podkolzin and Johan Petro as the mysterious French-speaking back-up center known only as "Jop". Introducing Brook Lopez as The Hope and Derrick Favors as The Kid.
A heart-warming drama of a little guy with a heart of gold and a voice of glass who against all odds molds a bunch of clones into a team that surprises everyone but himself. Set in Newark, NJ in the present day, this tale will make you laugh and cry and forget you ever heard those chilling words, "and the coach of your New Jersey Nets, Kiki Vandeweghe!"
One more thing: Honey, guard the kids...remember, Popeye Jones is in this picture.
Yeah, yeah, we're getting ahead of ourselves. So what? At this point, any comparisons to 12-70 are irrelevant. How so? When the Nets open training camp on September 24, there'll only be three players left from last year’s camp: Harris, Lopez and Williams. Kris Humphries joined the team in January.
There'll be (at least) 11 new players (Favors, James, Ross, Zoubek, Ben Uzoh, Outlaw, Petro, Morrow, Jordan Farmar, Sean May and Murphy); a new head coach and three new assistants (Johnson, Sam Mitchell, Larry Krystkowiak and Popeye Jones); four new scouts (Frank Zanin, Danko Cvjeticanin, Bob Ferry and Roy Rogers); a new GM and assistant GM (Billy King and Bobby Marks) plus added people on the video, player personnel and training staffs. They will play in a new arena (the Prudential Center) in a new city (Newark) in front of new fans (2,400 new season ticket packages sold so far) under a new owner who stacks gold bars in Russia (Prokhorov).
They will also be featured in the NBA’s two biggest international events, the China Games in preseason and the London Games in regular season. Heck, they may even change the name!
"It’s All New" is not just a Brett Yormark marketing slogan. You want to dream, go ahead. You deserve it after last year's nightmare. No other team in the NBA has had as big a turnover this summer...the Heat has six players returning. And other than an expansion team, we can’t think of an NBA team that has had this many changes on and off the court in recent years, maybe ever.
The final (?) script changes for the Nets' movie took place at week's end, when Murphy was welcomed home to New Jersey and then, surprisingly, Rod Thorn announced he'll be driving down the Turnpike with Ed rather than strolling the woods with Peggy. Talk about your codas.
Officially, the Nets' front office was relatively low-key about the trade--of course, Johnson wasn't around and any press conference with Murphy will have to wait til after he returns from a Hawaiian vacation. They didn't want to say much about Thorn's change of scenery, either. But on background there was a lot of talk about the rationale behind the deal and what went down with Thorn.
"The thought process was that Murphy was the best available PF on the last year of their deal and it would not be fair to the fans and organization to wait once the season started to add someone," said one team insider of the trade, adding, "I think we are done but Billy is very aggressive."
As for Thorn, the feeling was a mixture of sadness that he moved on...to a division rival no less, mixed with pride in what has been accomplished over the last few weeks, some of it Thorn's handiwork, some of it King's. Ironically, one source at 390 Murray Hill Parkway boasted, the Nets are in better shape than the 76ers because of Thorn's final moves.
"We are in much better shape than our friends down the Turnpike," the source said. "I would take our players, coach, management and the future over Philadelphia in a heart beat, plus the Murphy trade would never would have happened if Rod was here." One reason: with the collective bargaining agreement about to expire, Thorn's priority has been to accumulate cap space.
As for the team's attempts to keep Thorn, he emphasized, "I know for sure that the Russians did everything in their power to keep Rod"...something Thorn basically admitted in his Philadelphia press conference. Thorn was less charitable towards the previous ownership under Bruce Ratner, however. "The last couple of years we dismantled the team on purpose, because of corporate decisions, so that wasn’t much fun.”
"Bottom line," said another insider. "The organization is in its best shape in six years."
One other point about this week's events. Murphy became the latest new player to say publicly he's looking forward to working with Johnson, "I'm excited about playing for the up-and-coming Nets and coach Avery Johnson. I enjoyed my time in Indiana, but it's time to move on." As we noted last week, Outlaw, Petro and Farmar all said Johnson is a big reason they chose the Nets. It's fun playing in a wide-open system and in Dallas, Johnson had the wildest offense in the league.
So are they a playoff team? When he gets back, expect Johnson to say they could get there...and repeat that's the boss' dictate to him. It'll be a long, tough haul but if everything, and we do mean everything, breaks right, they have a chance.
For Prokhorov, It's Think Globally, Act Locally
If the Nets do make the playoffs, it will be big news in Russia. The Nets have become Russia's team. In the last two days alone, the Russian press--and not just the sports press--has been all over team news. No fewer than 25 newspapers, magazines and websites ran stories on the Nets' plan to change their name when they moved to Brooklyn! There were also stories speculating that Andrei Kirilenko would join the Nets in 2012 and repeating Thorn's comment that Prokhorov will be an "excellent" NBA owner.
One thing we haven't seen yet: plans to broadcast Nets' games across the wide expanse of Russia, from Kaliningrad to Vladivostok. Over the past two years, with Yi Jianlian, Chinese broadcasters carried more than 50 Net games a year.
Have You Ever Been Melo?
We figure the Nets have about $3 million left after the Murphy trade but with $17 million in expiring contracts (Murphy, Humphries and Ross) they could have $20 million come July.
The big prize then, of course, is Carmelo Anthony who has a $65 million contract extension sitting on his desk. Word is that he may want to join the Knicks. That's nice, but if he doesn't sign that extension, the ball will not be in his court. At some point the Nuggets can be expected to give Melo a deadline to sign it...and we expect that will happen fairly soon. If he doesn't sign it, they WILL trade him, period. They have no choice.
Take a look at their payroll after this year. Without 'Melo, they would have to rebuild. In addition to him, KMart will be gone, J.R. Smith may be gone, Billups has a final year buyout of $3.7 million, Nene has a player option. So they would want the things the Nets have: picks, young players on reasonable contracts, expiring contracts and cold hard Russian cash. The Knicks? After December 15, they could trade some of their newly signed young players, but the first first rounder they can offer is the 2014 pick. By dumping first rounders or agreeing to swap them, they simply don't have a tradeable first rounder til then. Over the next four years, the Nets have five first rounders they can trade.
Camp Candidates
After finishing up his trading day on Wednesday, King noted the Nets would soon be inviting players to training camp, "I’m going to say, this will probably be the team. We’ll add some guys for camp, give some guys a shot."
The camp candidates will compete with the three players already on partially guaranteed deals: Zoubek, Uzoh and May. The Nets have 12 guaranteed contracts and usually like to carry 14 players, one short of the maximum, for flexibility. So the competition could be intense.
Here are some intriguing possibilities, without recommendation, but remember, both King and Johnson talked about "glue guys" and Johnson specifically said he'd like a "veteran point guard".
Have Ring, Will Travel
--Brian Scalabrine, 6'9" PF, Celtics. He's been to the NBA Finals four times in the last nine years, winning a ring in 2008 with the Celts. Former Net, he's done well for an unathletic kid taken out of USC in the second round. May take his family to Europe. While there, he will win. It's a guarantee.
--Adam Morrison, 6'9" SF, Lakers. He can shoot and he longer burdened by the expectations or salary of a #3 draft pick. He's had some tryouts and he could always head to Europe, but he might be interesting.
--D.J. Mbenga, 7'1" C, Lakers. Developed by Johnson at Dallas, he is limited in what he can do, but he does block shots, is huge and as a native of Congo, he would help with that global branding thing.
Foreign contingent
--Qyntel Woods, 6'8" SF, Asseco Prokom, Polish League. The best player in Poland and one of the best in Europe, he actually worked out for the Nets in June and got a few kudoes from Johnson. But he has a series of arrests and convictions, for organizing dog fights, marijuana possession and DUI.
--Sun Yue, 6'9" PG, Beijing Olympians. Like Morrison and Mbenga, he has a championship ring. He barely played for the Lakers in 2008-09 and was cut the Knicks in 2009. Still, he would give the Nets an opportunity to retain a lot of their Chinese fans.
--Sasha Pavlovic, 6'7" SF, Timberwolves. He was always seen as a shooter but in recent years, he's also been seen as a malcontent. He keeps threatening to go back to Europe.
Big men
--Joe Smith, 6'11" PF, Hawks. After 15 years in the league, he looked done last year, but the Nets looked at him recently. He wants full guarantee. Doubtful he gets it.
--Ike Diogu, 6'9" PF, Hornets. A lot of promise, a lot of injuries. On several occasions during his career, he looked like he might take off, but never did. He's recovering from microfracture surgery 10 months ago, not a good thing.
--Malik Allen, 6'10" PF, Nuggets. He would be back for his second shot, after having failed in his first. Traded with Jason Kidd to Dallas. He wants a partial guarantee of about $500,000, reports Dave D'Alessandro. Can't see that happening. A Willingboro native, he would be the third Jersey guy in camp, along with Zoubek (Haddonfield) and Murphy (Sparta), most ever.
Reclamation Projects
--Rashard McCants, 6'4" SG, Kings. The Nets would probably like another deep shooter off the bench. McCants is the NBA's reigning enigma...at least among borderline players. He has career averages of 10.0 ppg and 36.8% from deep. He once hit seven three's in game. But he's been out of the league for a year and was the subject of a lengthy piece in ESPN the Magazine recently. What's his problem? Moodiness, individuality, unreliability. He is only 24.
--Joe Alexander, 6'8" SF, Bucks. The West Virginia product was often on Thorn's radar, but after two underwhelming seasons in Milwaukee, he was told his services were no longer required. He can jump out of the building and shoot from deep, but the rest of his game needs a lot of work. Did we mention he speaks fluent Mandarin?
Glue Guy?
--Chris Quinn, 6'2", PG, Nets. The Nets renounced his rights and gave his number to Terrence Williams, but he's still unemployed despite rumors Dwyane Wade wanted him on the Heat. He was a complete pro last season. We'd have no problems bringing him back to battle Uzoh.
Social Notes via Twitter
Reading through some tweets, we learned Sean May is getting married this weekend. He's been accepting congratulations after tweeting, "So I'm taking bets... Who thinks ima cry like my boy @DNoel34 did when my Girl walks down the isle tom!?!??" Later he admitted "So very blessed! Long day Tomm... Gatta relax get the nerves right then... Watch the women of my dreams take my last name! :-)" We offered our congratulations.
Meanwhile, TWill has been posting photos of him and his two young sons here, here, here and here on vacation. A lot of hoops action for the family Williams. Not to be out-cuted, Morrow has posted some shots of his daughter, here and here. He's also showing off some recent orthodontics, aka "grill" work, aka smile renovation.
Yogi Farmar
Jordan Farmar is all about L.A. He grew up in L.A. He went to high school in L.A., went to college in L.A., played pro ball in L.A. and has a charity in L.A., which sponsors an annual basketball camp for L.A. kids. So it shouldn't be a surprise that his basketball camp is just a bit different, at least by East Coast standards.
In addition to the usual camp swag --the t-shirt, the autographed picture, the certificate of participation-- every kid who attends his "Hoop Farm" starting Monday gets a free yoga mat. Yep, a yoga mat. The campers engage in a half-hour of yoga instruction prior to even touching a basketball.
Hooray for Hollywood!
When Time Stood Still for Big Z
The Duke Magazine has an interview this month with Brian Zoubek about the last minute of the NCAA Final when Butler's Gordon Heyward almost made like Jimmy Chitwood in "Hoosiers".
"He's going into his jump shot, and I realize that Kyle's not on him anymore," said Zoubek of teammate Kyle Singler. "So I try to get a hand up, bother him a little bit.
"It's weird because people say time slows down, and it's hard to imagine that actually happening. But when you get in that position, you realize in your mind that, Wow, this is the culmination of everything-right now-in this one play. I realized that Hayward had been money all tournament, so I was praying that I did a good enough job and that he would miss it. And thank God he did! And the rebound came right down to me."
Zoubek also talks about his foot injury which kept out of a lot of games over his sophomore and junior season but which is now healed.
"Yeah, it was a progression, and it just took a lot of time-a lot of rehab, a lot of ice footbaths, a lot of hard work. And it was definitely a process over a couple of years to finally get to where my foot felt completely fine."
TV Notes
The Nets Kids dance team will be performing on the WPIX11 Morning News on Monday at 8:55 a.m. On Tuesday, the annual auditions for the Nets Kids will take place at the PNY Center, starting with registration at 5:30 p.m.
Final Note
The possibility of a name change has gotten a lot of ink this week...after Ast, one of our Russian speaking posters, translated Mikhail Prokhorov's interview with Forbes Russia. But lost in the translation, so to speak, was a very subtle but very pointed dig at the Dolans.
In answer to Forbes' first question, about when he became interested in the NBA, Prokhorov said, "Our dreams began in 2003-2004 in 'kitchen talks' - it's cool to own an NBA club. They became real when we heard rumors that Cablevision, owner of MSG, Knicks and Rangers, was in dire financial strains. Some of our own financial bankers said that Cablevision will soon fall apart, and there will be a possibility of purchasing it."
The billboard may be down, but Mikhail seems to relish getting under the Dolans' skin. Cablevision was on the verge of collapse, in dire financial straits? That ain't about basketball. That's about stock price. Big difference.
As for the name change itself, we think Norman Oder of Atlantic Yards Report has it figured out: It's all about a grand move, not a radical one. The critics' chronicler asks, "What if the team's 'name change' is just a feint to announce 'Brooklyn Nets' in a big ceremony?" Meanwhile, one possible venue for that big ceremony got closer to reality this week as workmen started pulling down the building that housed "Freddy's Bar". There was no protest.
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so you have all thise “inside” information, yet no one leaked to you what the name change would be?
secondly, why was the link about the Nets intern pulled down? Several os us did not get a chance to read it, can you re-post?
no
but it was us who first posted it. You should be grateful. Maybe we should charge a fee like ESPN Insider…at least to you.
why would I expect any more
you rude, misinformed robot for management. your site continues to be a joke due to the fact that someone as obnoxious and nasty helps run it.
you should be grateful
anyone reads the biased spin you put on this team. You are a real pro. The fact that anyone takes the garbage you say on here seriously is almost as unbelieveable as the sham this organiazation has become since your bosses took over. Take a look in the mirror before you start taking cheap shots like that.
chill just a little bit.
Net Income gets to me too sometimes, but gotta be cool.
"...where they don't play with a shot clock." - C. Sager
Bring back veal!
I am also a big fan of Joe Smith. I think he can be a good veteran big and glue guy at the same time
www.nothingbutthenets.blogspot.com, twitter.com/netshype
by nothingbutthenets on Aug 14, 2010 5:11 PM EDT reply actions
what do you think?
I think that Ross can fill in as both back up SG and SF, but that could get sticky if we get hit with some injuries. What kind of backcourt player do we need? SG? Another PG that can hit the three?
"No one stands on the top of the world. Not you, not me, not even gods. But the unbearable vacancy of the throne in the sky is over. From now on...I will be sitting on it."
by MrDollarBills on Aug 15, 2010 1:35 AM EDT up reply actions
I wouldn't be against Chris Quinn coming back either
"No one stands on the top of the world. Not you, not me, not even gods. But the unbearable vacancy of the throne in the sky is over. From now on...I will be sitting on it."
by MrDollarBills on Aug 15, 2010 1:36 AM EDT up reply actions
I would have to disagree dude
I would rather let Uzoh get minutes, watching him struggle to bring the ball up was rough last year.
i'm a little concerned
about secondary ball-handling…after Harris, Farmar and TWill.
Not so much at the point, but elsewhere.
Dallas II: Revenge of the Clones!
B-I-N-G-O and bingo was his name-o
"I want to win, I want the team to win and I'm in complete control."
-Coach Avery Johnson.
Fine update, as usual. Still no Josh Boone news?
Josh Boone, the longest serving Net. So sad.
Texas slang in a Big Apple minute, by a friendly OED consultant. http://www.barrypopik.com
Boone should be back
easily could find 10-15 minutes for him on this roster. He plays hard and he can rebound.
they made two moves this week
signing Sean May to a partially guaranteed deal and trading for Troy Murphy. They play the same positions Boone plays. They have also given his number, #2, to Jordan Farmar. That should tell you everything you need to know about the possibility of his return.
Josh Boone? Adam Morrison? Paul Erstein?
If these three sign with the NETS, none of them are going to see any time on the court. Paul Erstein is a Sean May clone, only much shorter and with no outside touch. It’s a slow day when we are talking about who is going to be player 13 and 14 on the roster.
AJ will play 9 or 10 guys, players 12-15 just don’t really matter, as long as they are good in the locker room and in practice. Paul Erstein would be good in the locker room.
GO NETS!
Paul from Delray Beach
by PaulErstein on Aug 14, 2010 6:01 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
So .. this is our team?
Harris/Farmar/[Uzoh]
Twill/Morrow
Outlaw/James/Ross
Murphy/Favors/Humphries/[May]
Lopez/Petro/[Zoubek]
I’m sad (and a bit surprised) to say that the roster doesn’t overwhelm me.
who are
you talking about
“The Knicks? After December 15, they could trade some of their newly signed young players’
just curious
in regard to your point about the knicks not having picks, do you honeslty think the nets picks will be worth much if they were to magically land melo. theyd have carmelo anthony brook lopez, etc. on that team (top 5 team in east) there picks will be in the 20’s…. btw i agree the knicks not having first rounders to trade hurts big time in a situation like this. btw GSW pick is HUGE for nj.
btw what is your proposal for carmelo?
you don't understand
how it works when superstars want to be traded. I think if you become a more avid reader of this site, you will understand better. Best wishes.
Saddest offseason ever
Does anyone actually think this team is in good shape?? This is the worst team we will put out in my 20 years as a net fan,(including last year) We have a joke of an owner our GM is a clown & who besides Brook or Devin should even be in this league!! (Sorry Troy would make a decent 6th man) Everyone here went from loving Rod 1 second to thinking he was a buffoon the next, The real buffooons here are Bruce the Rat & anyone who thinks this team will win more then 25 games, the only good thing about this offseason is that it will be much easier to not root for this team when the 2 bozos proko & yormak completely kill this franchise with a name change with anything other then NETS
um
this team is 100x better than last year’s, and depth wise this is the deepest Nets team that we’ve had in over a decade.
"No one stands on the top of the world. Not you, not me, not even gods. But the unbearable vacancy of the throne in the sky is over. From now on...I will be sitting on it."
by MrDollarBills on Aug 15, 2010 1:28 AM EDT up reply actions
great tagname missmynjnets
and while I don’t agree we will be as bad as last year (almost impossible) you are right on about everything else. This team, what is left of it is in very bad hands and pretty soon it seems there will be no more Nets – just an expansion team in Brooklyn after all we have put into this team as fans.
This is the worst team we will put out in my 20 years as a net fan,(including last year)i stop reading at that piont
Another great read
I’m enjoying these regulare weekly updates. Really appreciate your time and effort.
by Mr Flea on Aug 15, 2010 5:46 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
The truth hurts huh Income?
I guess one of your fellow moderators took down your reply to me but there was no need to, I can handle it.
It was a typical reply from a bully that can’t take it when someone actually calls him out from under his almighty pulpit. You know very well I am neither sad or in need of help for “serious issues”. I just happen to be a devoted, passionate fan of the New Jersey Nets – you know the type of person you regularly cliam does not exist. I am greatly opposed to the evil individuals currently running the team that have plans to eliminate it from the NBA in favor of an expansion team in Brooklyn.
Some of us might actually have an ounce of respect for you if you finally came out and admitted your allegiances to Ratner and Prokhorov, whether you are officially on the payroll or not. Your problem is you think you are smarter than everyone – just because you are bing fed some information does not equate to superior intelligence, many of us know exactly of your intentions while a small group continues to worship you on this site for reasons best known to them and you.
So please take a minute to think about yourself, who you are and how you talk to people on a site that claims to be for fans of the New Jersey Nets yet caters to people that get off on insulting the New Jersey fan base and features a drawing of the Brooklyn Bridge as its logo – it is a joke just like much of what is written by you since it is obvious how biased the material is towards ownership. Now that is sad.
nah, I took it down
I don’t need the money by the way. Doing quite well. (pause) I have taken the minute to reflect. I am still comfortable. Thanks for your advice though. It’s always comforting to know people are thinking about you.
And here’s some news.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/28363759@N08/sets/72157624599941381/show/
The smaller building being pulled apart is Freddy’s Bar. The larger building with the rising scaffolding is Goldstein’s condo building.
by Net Income on Aug 15, 2010 12:38 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
yep, you're hopeless
whatever money you may have has done nothing to make you a decent person. Another common misconception you like to promote is that money = success.
oh please enlighten us Income
what is revelaing – that I don’t bow down and shine your shoes because you think you have a bigger bank account than me? I am quite comfortable with what I have and I wouldn’t be throwing it anyone’s face if I had quite a bit more. Only shallow people like you think having money makes you a good person. You are a very confused individual – a person that suppoedly spends his free time for the benefit of the fan base of a professional sports team then gets pleasure in picking fights and ripping those that actually cared about what the team has been all about for the past three decades.
Does Net Income have money? You would think that he could afford a Synergy Sport subscription if he had money – not that I can, have you, but maybe he could.
"...where they don't play with a shot clock." - C. Sager
by kv on Aug 15, 2010 7:34 PM EDT up reply actions

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