ESPN "Minds" Mostly Ignore Nets in Forecasts
They are the "best basketball minds" at ESPN, the 93 people polled for ESPN's off-season forecasts. Problem is this off-season doesn't seem to end and as this week proved, major changes can still affect teams, whether it's a four-team trade or a new brain trust in Philadelphia.
That aside, ESPN's forecasts of conference standings, best and worst newcomers, most eager to see had little Nets interest. As previously reported, the "minds" placed the Nets in a last-place tie with Toronto in the East; but also gave Derrick Favors one vote in the Rookie of the Year forecast and two votes as Worst Newcomer. Travis Outlaw's five year, $35 million contract got him three votes in the Worst Newcomer category, tied for eighth. There's more to come.
- NBA Summer Forecast: East standings - Royce Webb & Matt Wong - ESPN
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- NBA Summer Forecast: 2010-11 Worst Newcomer of the Year - Matt Wong - ESPN
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Nets are ready to surprise
"I want to win, I want the team to win and I'm in complete control."
-Coach Avery Johnson.
At the end of the Day i could be wrong but im looking at this way....
People say this was the worst signing ever and what are the nets thining but the thing is there is a reason they gave him that money, I think they didnt just do it to do it, the only reason why i say this is because look at who was avaliable over Outlaw, RJ, Howard, like those guys arent worth that money but you would have gotten them for a way lower price 1 yr 4-7 million instead of 5 for 35, so to me is they show something in him to sign him to that contract, another thing is wouldnt it be smart to give a 1 with option so 2 yrs worth like 12-14 million instead of a 5 yr deal, thats the why i see it, there was a reason for the signing and hopefully outlaw proves everyone wrong about the contract
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by Wall2KingJames on Aug 13, 2010 4:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Avery is building "Dallas II: The Revenge"
Starring Troy Murphy as Dirk Nowitzki, Travis Outlaw as Josh Howard, Anthony Morrow as Jason Terry, and Devin Harris as Himself.
Also featuring Damion James as Jerry Stackhouse, Jordan Farmar as Anthony Johnson, and Brook Lopez as The Kid
Except that none of those players are as good as the original
Other than that…
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by Wall2KingJames on Aug 13, 2010 4:49 PM EDT up reply actions
To quote the movie "Waiting..."
Being the greatest basketball minds at espn is like being the smartest people with down syndrome. And my apologies to anybody reading with down syndrome, since comparing them with espn employees is insulting. These guys are nothing but shills for LeBron & Co. The ONLY thing mentioned about the 4 team trade was Chris Paul. They’re a joke of a news network.
by JohnFromLongIsland on Aug 13, 2010 8:50 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
Nice!
Loved that movie and it came out when I was stuck working in Bennigans… customers were REALLY nice for about a month!
That said, of course the “minds” will say that… in their mind we’re apparently trotting up a .500 high school team this year! It’s not like the team has a former AS pg, a borderline AS c, the guy who is just about to be the best shooter in league history (after a few more attempts), and a good amount of young talent. I want them to eat a huge bowl of crow at the end of the season! Is that too much to ask?
by NotSoSilentBob on Aug 13, 2010 10:41 AM EDT up reply actions
i don’t listen to anything these writers say…especially that Mannix guy. They are all haters who really don’t even have a clue about the Nets. I’m not saying we’re going to be great, but at the very least we’ll be respectable
by Homey We Don't Play Around on Aug 13, 2010 8:50 AM EDT reply actions
Amazing Point, im saying the same thing, were not going to win 60 gms and go to the finals but if your going to tell me this team with coach johnson cant aleast compete for the 8th seed is a joke because anything can happen
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by Wall2KingJames on Aug 13, 2010 4:51 PM EDT up reply actions
They all said this last year
And they were right, despite us thinking otherwise.
I think the Nets will be better than last year, but not significantly. It depends on what structure Avery is running and whether everyone is buying into it.
I think we have a shot at the 8th seed actually, but these experts haven’t been all that wrong about us in the past. But they were working with a lot of known entities on the Nets, something that nobody can really provide any accurate analysis on now, without seeing them play.
Listen you have a point they didnt say anything good about us last yr, but the thing is did anyone expect Frank Fired Kiwi Taking over Injuries Players Quiting and 12 wins, Its not like we werent trying at times we were its just we were outplayed
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by Wall2KingJames on Aug 13, 2010 4:53 PM EDT up reply actions
Seriously, what do we expect though?
We won 12 games last year. It’s up to us to prove we are better than their ratings.
At worst, this is preseason motivational material.
seriously
Any comparisons to 12-70 are irrelevant.
When the Nets open camp on September 24, there will only be three players left from last year’s training camp: Harris, Lopez and TWill. Humphries joined the team in January.
There will be 11 new players (Favors, James, Ross, Zoubek, Uzoh, Outlaw, Petro, Morrow, Farmar, May and Murphy), a new head coach and three new assistants (Johnson, Mitchell, Krystkowiak and Jones), four new scouts (Zanin, Cvjeticanin, Ferry and Rogers), a new GM and assistant GM (King and Marks), plus added people in video, player personnel and training. They will play in a new arena (with one of the most modern locker rooms in the NBA) in front of new fans (2,400 new season ticket packages sold so far) under a new owner who has new money. They will also be featured in the NBA’s two biggest international events, the China Games and the London Games. Hell, they may even change the name!
It’s All New is not just a marketing slogan. It’s the reality. I don’t know how many games they will win, maybe 11, but NO other team in the NBA has had as big a turnover this summer…and if truth be told, other than an expansion team, I can’t think of an NBA team that has had this many changes ever.
+10000
i dont see 11 wins ill beshocked if we cant even reach30 wins but less then 38-41 is a embrassment
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by Wall2KingJames on Aug 13, 2010 4:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Embrassesment*
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Embarrassment*
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by Wall2KingJames on Aug 13, 2010 4:57 PM EDT up reply actions
no
they have Wade, Haslem, Anthony, Magloire, Jones, Chalmers and Shavlik Randolph all back. All were in training camp last September and all but Randolph spent the the season with the team. They had to be renounced or bought out in the off-season but that’s meaningless. They are all back.
Boston had a major change in their roster a few years back, and they became world champions that year.
Nets added 4 nice experienced players for 18 million, then a Veteran in Troy Murphy, not to mention that one of the draft picks was a Senior. They also added Vets. in Ross and perhaps May, to sit on the end of the bench. Then there a 2 undrafted picks who might not make the team.
With the right coach, I don’t consider this team anything like an expansion team.
All new doesn't make it better, just newer.
Nets right now feels like an expansion team. They historically do bad the first year.
Because expansion teams are banned from top pick in draft,
have a lower cap that limits free agent spending, and have to pick from unprotected players on other teams rosters.
The Nets have their draft picks from the prior 2 drafts (Lopez and Williams) and some players that would not have been left unprotected (Harris, Murphy, Morrow, Outlaw).
Little better than an expansion team right now.
Make that banned from top picks
Raptors and Grizzlies were inserted into lottery at #s 6 and 7 the first year. So they wouldn’t have had a player like Favors either.
Good points
Still, Nets didn’t use all their cap space. Their salary now is probably lower than some expansion teams. I know season hasn’t start yet :)
huh
dude, the Nets had 14-15 million in space left, which they wisely kept so that they could make a TRADE. Now the space has been used and we have like 2-3 mil left over.
Now next summer, they will have possibly 20 million in space and that includes everyone on this roster except for The Hump and The Murph.
I know that you wanted us to to spend 80 million on David Lee and crippling our franchise for the next 5-6 years, but trading a malcontent player for Murphy was the smarter move.
"No one stands on the top of the world. Not you, not me, not even gods. But the unbearable vacancy of the throne in the sky is over. From now on...I will be sitting on it."
by MrDollarBills on Aug 13, 2010 5:48 PM EDT up reply actions
at Income
If Prokhorov has his way, they will be an expansion team
He means that if they remove the Nets name, they will effectively be an expansion team.
But don’t worry, Proky has no intention of changing the Nets nickname.
yea but
those same people, for example, were first saying that Lebron James is most likely going to the Bulls or staying with the Cavs. In June, Miami wasn’t even in the conversation, and later on they made it seem as if they were the whole time. So w/e to their opinions lol…
but also gave Derrick Favors one vote in the Rookie of the Year
Said as if you were expecting more votes. Rookies dont win the award coming off the bench.
I wonder what they are going to say when we make the playoffs?
The only team we are not better than in our division is Boston. Everyone else we are better. I can see us finishing second.
by killa kadafi191 on Aug 13, 2010 10:18 AM EDT reply actions
actually we are 4th best in the division
expect the Atlantic Division standings to look something like this:
Celtics 52-30, Knicks 44-38, Sixers 34-48, Nets 27-55, Raptors 24-58
I understand that Amare is better than Lee (marginally), but
where the hell are those 15 additional wins for the Knicks coming from?
Felton, Randolph, Turiaf, Azubuke, Mason, Gallinari's development
Let’s be real here, plain and simple. The Nets are not better than the Knicks, and that is said from a purely roster comparative standpoint.
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Huh?
Knicks with 44 wins? Nets with only 27?
I can see the Raptors stinking it up, and your Sixers prediction is accurate, but I think you have the Nets too low and the Knicks too high.
I also think the Celtics are a team that's very much at risk for a "collapse"
So while they could win 52 games, they could also win 30 if their stars can’t stay healthy and/or their skills see further erosion.
Amar'e has to do it without Nash
He’s a world class player, maybe he can do it. It’s not out of range to say 44 wins, but I think that’s assuming he becomes their next Patrick Ewing.
I expected the Nets to suck last year
Not to the level they did, but I certainly expected no more than 25-30 wins. I truly think this team could get 35-40 though. But even if they are last place again, with the strength of this draft class, it wouldn’t be the worst thing in the world. I would love to get Perry Jones or Barnes or Kyrie.
Agree i expect 38-41 wins but if we suck again Proky wont be happy but we get another lottery pick
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by Wall2KingJames on Aug 13, 2010 5:01 PM EDT up reply actions
I notice John Hollinger isn't the author of any of these "opinions".
He’s pretty much the only guy at ESPN worth reading when it comes to analysis.
Nets
are just going to use this as motivation last year they were ranked as a team that could suprise, this year it’s just nonsense how a team that went from Yi to Murphy, CDR to Outlaw, Lee to Williams, Dooling to Farmar, Hayes to Morrow, Simmons to James, Boone to Favors, Battie to Petro, and Hassell to Ross they are all improvements expect the Nets to win at least 40+ games this year if they stay healthy.
by JJ25 on Aug 13, 2010 10:25 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
20 to 30 win team at best.
Lopez recovering from mono and Harris is fragile. No team chemistry/ continuity from previous year. There are many reasons the team might be worse than last year.
Also, Avery has never coached a team with this little talent. Can he coach a bad team?
I agree.
I was shocked too.
How can you even say they could be worse or even like last years team?
Only four players are coming back from last years team. I doesnt make sense to compare the two.
We finally have a real coach and you are saying it is going to be worse.
Like I said,
Avery has has yet to prove he can coach a bad team. Remember, Frank was a great coach with a good roster too.
You all think this is a playoff team roster? Lopez will struggle hard with his medical problem and Harris consistently take games off due to injury. Again, there are all these unknown pieces on the team.
Twill is probably not a starter. Nets “star” players can very easily have a bad year. Harris didn’t do with with Avery in the past, you seem to conveniently ignore this. When things go bad, it’s going to roll downhill real fast.
Assumptions do not make your correct
Lets see:
Avery has has yet to prove he can coach a bad team.
You assume that this team will be bad. You assume that Avery, a coach of the year winner, cannot coach a lesser talented team than the Mavericks.
Lopez will struggle hard with his medical problem and Harris consistently take games off due to injury.
You assume this. It does not mean that it will be the reality of this coming season.
Twill is probably not a starter.
Assumptions. When he was given starter minutes in the last two months of the season, he was turning heads.
Harris didn’t do with with Avery in the past, you seem to conveniently ignore this.
Avery had Harris as a productive member of an NBA Finalist, and he also had him playing great defense and disciplined offense. Tony Parker said that he was glad that Dallas traded him for a reason.
Harris is also a more mature person than he was when Avery was coaching him. That makes a difference as well.
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by MrDollarBills on Aug 13, 2010 1:54 PM EDT up reply actions
"your opinion correct"
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by MrDollarBills on Aug 13, 2010 1:54 PM EDT up reply actions
Your Assumptions
It’s FACT that Avery has yet to coach a roster this bad. YOU are assuming that Avery will improve.
I said, this is a 20 to 30 win team. But there is chance this will be worse than last year.
And have you even looked at what your saying???
That Dallas Team had a bunch of young unproven and relatively unknown players that Avery got to play well around Dirk. Most of whom have never played near that level again. They won 67 games 5 off that all time record bulls team. That bulls team had 2 maybe 3 Hall of Famers… Is Dirk even a certified Hall of Famer yet???
The JETS/NETS are coming!
Dirk won league MVP. Every MVP winner has gone to the thus far HoF.
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by kv on Aug 13, 2010 6:58 PM EDT up reply actions
It's the basketball hall of fame
not the NBA hall of fame. He is a lock. He is the greatest player ever produced by a European country…well him and Gasol.
But that Bulls team had the best coach in the league.
by diehardNFFLbarnone on Aug 13, 2010 11:05 PM EDT up reply actions
Thats with every team dude
Just because our Jersey’s say the word Nets doesn’t mean we will be the only team with issues.
and the 4 returning players...
…are the 4 that were, aside from Lee, who we know now for sure was a bitter malcontent that kept it quiet(which I commend him for) and professional, were the best players on the roster.
Some people here want the Nets to fail IMO and look for every possible little negative thing to say, even if it’s baseless. When this team does better than expected, which I believe they will now that the roster has been constructed with common sense, something that IMO Rod Thorn could not or was not allowed to do within the past 6 years, it will be interesting to see who owns up to their negativity.
"No one stands on the top of the world. Not you, not me, not even gods. But the unbearable vacancy of the throne in the sky is over. From now on...I will be sitting on it."
by MrDollarBills on Aug 13, 2010 11:40 AM EDT up reply actions
They want the nets to fail because they dont want to get to cocky and to excited and then at the end of the day get another terrible season, see im not like that im excited and pumped and expect playoffs (41wins) like proky says
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by Wall2KingJames on Aug 13, 2010 5:07 PM EDT up reply actions
I said Nets will be a 20 to 30 win team.
That is an improvement from last year. They can also be worse that last year if Lopez and Harris decline. Harris declined last year, with added pressure from Avery, he can very easily get worse.
Hey, who am I to argue with the logic, if something is bad, replace it with something completely different. It has to be better! That is a fallacy.
“A” = bad
Not “A” does not = Good
Do you know how few teams have won 12 games or less? Despite the fact that the Nets played last year with uncertainty about ownership, no real coach, the knowledge that the front office was preparing for FA instead of trying to win that year, and despite the fact that NONE of that is true this year, you still think they could possibly lose more than 70 games? It takes a massive organizational sh*tstorm and tons of bad luck to lose that many games. Do you seriously think it could conceivably happen two years in a row?
If you take the exact same roster from last year, they’d win way more than 12 games. Let’s be realistic, they had more talent than that and just underperformed terribly. This team is better than last year’s team. They won’t be worse than 12-70.
wow
your entire post is totally off base.
You should be thanking the stars above that there is no continuity from last year.
There are many reasons why this team is worse than last year? This is laughable, but for the sake of boredom, why not detail WHY you believe that this team will be worse than last year, and provide facts to back up each point.
I believe you’re one of the folks that said that the Nets should have went out and spend 100 million dollars, uninsured, on Amare Stoudemire, to show YOU that they are about making progress. I want to hear your reasoning.
This team has plenty of talent.
"No one stands on the top of the world. Not you, not me, not even gods. But the unbearable vacancy of the throne in the sky is over. From now on...I will be sitting on it."
by MrDollarBills on Aug 13, 2010 11:31 AM EDT up reply actions
and you make...
…the absolute folly of even remotely comparing this year’s situation to last years debacle. All of the malcontents and problems are gone from this roster and the front office.
I think that your ‘analysis’ of this team is steeped in some type of bitterness towards something, but I’ll leave that up to you.
"No one stands on the top of the world. Not you, not me, not even gods. But the unbearable vacancy of the throne in the sky is over. From now on...I will be sitting on it."
by MrDollarBills on Aug 13, 2010 11:33 AM EDT up reply actions
Stay to the topic
You don’t need to switch the topic to me. That’s not allowed on this forum. k, thx
um, no
I am talking about your opinion, which I think is incorrect. I’m not attacking you personally. Nice try though.
"No one stands on the top of the world. Not you, not me, not even gods. But the unbearable vacancy of the throne in the sky is over. From now on...I will be sitting on it."
by MrDollarBills on Aug 13, 2010 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions
I think you oppinion is garbage.
But I’m not attacking you ok? /love
Lmfao
This response was classic. Disagree 100% with everything you said but this was hilarious
by nwkiddnj on Aug 13, 2010 2:26 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
It's all good :)
I know I’m dumping ice water on everyone here. If everyone agreed with me, that would be scary.
so if you think 20-30 wins and worst season then last yr what do you expect from the cavs without lebron 10 wins?
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by Wall2KingJames on Aug 13, 2010 5:14 PM EDT up reply actions
it was funny
I found it funnier that he couldn’t back up his claims, either.
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by MrDollarBills on Aug 13, 2010 5:52 PM EDT up reply actions
LOL
"No one stands on the top of the world. Not you, not me, not even gods. But the unbearable vacancy of the throne in the sky is over. From now on...I will be sitting on it."
by MrDollarBills on Aug 13, 2010 5:51 PM EDT up reply actions
I can see a 30 win team happening but
I feel in almost all aspects this team has quite vastly improved. “There are many reasons the team might be worse than last year.” What? How?
Consequences will never be the same.
by NetsMets4Life on Aug 13, 2010 11:35 AM EDT up reply actions
FIFY, Yi not being on the Nets should get him 15 wins alone.
:) That actually goes for CDR and Dooling as well.
Awful exercise, awful list.
Outlaw gets more votes than Gay? Gay should have been at the top of the list, with Joe Johnson!
Delonte West got a vote, he’s still a free agent!
Hakim Warrick only got one vote.
To be fair
As one of the “experts” polled by ESPN, the question was focused on a “new” player for a team, or I would have said Joe Johnson in a heartbeat.
As the lone Nets guy in the poll, I did defend the honor of the team the best I could, but with 92 other people to contend with, I think Nets fans just have to deal with the perception of our team by the rest of the league’s fans.
by MarkGinocchio on Aug 13, 2010 11:22 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I think Nets fans just have to deal with the perception of our team by the rest of the league’s fans.
I’ve done it for my entire life. It’s not difficult.
Idiocy and ignorance bothers me. The truth doesn’t.
yeah
you can tell me that a Lopez/Murphy frontcourt may be suspect when it comes to interior defense, and that’s fine because it is the bloody truth, but I absolute despise uninformed opinions about this team.
Most of the idiots that pick the Nets to be dead last in the East are just going off of perception and last year’s record. Look at all of the “experts” rankings…they are basically carbon copies of how each team finished last year. These clowns play it safe, but when the Nets begin to impress by being one of the better young teams in the league on the rise, they’ll act like they knew what was going on.
Sports journalism has become absolute garbage.
"No one stands on the top of the world. Not you, not me, not even gods. But the unbearable vacancy of the throne in the sky is over. From now on...I will be sitting on it."
by MrDollarBills on Aug 13, 2010 11:44 AM EDT up reply actions
jornalists
in all realms have become lazy. much easier to regurgiate common ‘opinions’ and look to last years record. waste of time to read it if you want detailed, in depth analysis that is semi-meaningful
imagine something extremely witty here
agreed Gminski
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by MrDollarBills on Aug 13, 2010 5:52 PM EDT up reply actions
Agreed
Preseason predictions across all sports tend to be exact copies of the previous season’s standings. It’s disgusting. Look at the NFL. Despite the fact that historically speaking, almost half of the teams from the previous season’s playoffs fail to make it the next year, writers always predict that the exact same teams will make it. That never happens!
They can’t follow every team closely (who has the time?) so they cover for their ignorance by making “safe” picks that are pretty much always wrong.
yeah
when I read that ESPN predicted that the Giants will go 6-10, I almost blew a gasket.
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by MrDollarBills on Aug 13, 2010 5:53 PM EDT up reply actions
True story!
I’m used to pats on the shoulder or a chorus of laughter when I proudly admit I am a Nets fan (especially last season)
by Casiano's Evil Twin on Aug 13, 2010 12:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Truthfully it has more to do with some headscratchers than with the Nets being overlooked. I mean, Amir Jonhson got two votes, and dude is getting paid on the same level as Outlaw for less production.
And what “expert” voted for Blake Griffin? Shelden Williams? What’s the reasoning behind that?
by MyNetsForLife on Aug 14, 2010 2:46 AM EDT up reply actions
ESPN stands for
Entertainment and Sports Programming by Nike
Most of those voters probably think it's
Bo Outlaw and not Travis Outlaw.. he is overpaid but not to the extent that people make it seem. A lot of teams overpaid by a lot more this summer.
I wish we could find out who these clowns are who make up these predictions.
ESPN is based on hype. Much like Netted is suggesting, a company like NIke (based on hype) is certainly a basis for a BS station like ESPN. I really dont know why I watch it any more.
Consequences will never be the same.
Just a little conspriacy theory
Jim Gray did the Lebron interview. Lebron is signed by Nike
Jim Gray (o/b/o Golf Channel) recently got in a tussel with Corey Pavin because Gray reported that Pavin would use his captain’s pick to select Tiger Woods for the Ryder Cup if he didn’t make the team on his own after the PGA Championship. Pavin vehemently denies he ever said that. Tiger is signed to Nike.
Is Jim Gray a shill for Nike? Maybe.
One thing for certain is networks are deeply indebted to Nike for advertising dollars. So it probably wouldn’t be a bad move to support athletes signed to the company and talk about them (and their teams) more than any others.
follow the money trail. I'm sure someone is lining his pockets to be a shill
Jim Gray is a clown and ESPN basically destroyed their credibility in two months’ time with the Lebron mess.
Nothing shocking, these corporations dictate what we hear, what we see, and for some of us, what we think.
I can’t tell you how fascinating it is to me that ESPN went on a rampage when Michael Vick was involved with dog fighting, but are very low key about women claiming that Big Ben raped them…TWICE.
"No one stands on the top of the world. Not you, not me, not even gods. But the unbearable vacancy of the throne in the sky is over. From now on...I will be sitting on it."
by MrDollarBills on Aug 13, 2010 11:48 AM EDT up reply actions
They are hype network.
They will do anything ass backwards to get viewers.
Consequences will never be the same.
by NetsMets4Life on Aug 13, 2010 11:50 AM EDT up reply actions
Its possible I guess.
Nike is behind a lot of stuff in the media. Love what they produce, but it seems like they have a hand in everything media based.
And I dislike Jim Gray very much.
Consequences will never be the same.
by NetsMets4Life on Aug 13, 2010 11:49 AM EDT up reply actions
Bogus!
Starting at the top: The Heat will win 70 games, not 61. After the first few blowouts, the TV ratings on Heat games will drop, because blowouts are boring. The Knicks will not win as many games, and will not make the playoffs, as Amare will miss half the season due to some new injury. AND our Nets will win 30 games, an 18 game improvement.
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