Nets To Sign Anthony Morrow to Offer Sheet Monday
by NetsDaily on Jul 10, 2010 9:28 AM EDT
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PrintThe Nets will sign 6'5" shooting guard Anthony Morrow, a restricted free agent, to an offer sheet worth $12 million over three years. Although both sides have agreed on the terms, Morrow won't sign the sheet until Monday, perhaps to give the Nets time to do a sign-and-trade with Golden State and avoid the seven day waiting period.
According to Adrian Wojnarowski, who broke the story Friday night, Golden State is financially pressed and is not expected to match. Marcus Thompson II, who covers the Warriors, thinks it's unlikely as well but the Warriors might be tempted to match. Warrior GM Larry Riley told a reporter Friday they'll consider matching, but didn't commit.
In a tweet posted after the news broke, Morrow wrote, "I'm extremely thankful to be in this position."
In his two years in the league, Morrow has shot 47 percent from the field and 46 percent from 3-point range. He led the league in 3-point percentage as a rookie and ranked fifth last season, averaging 13 points per game for Golden State. Morrow will be 25 years old in September.
- Morrow agrees to offer sheet with Nets - Adrian Wojnarowski - Yahoo!
- Wojnarowski: New Jersey signs Anthony Morrow to an offer sheet - John Krolik - NBC Sports
- Morrow Gets Offer Sheet From Nets - Marcus Thompson II - Contra Costa Times
- Morrow tendered - Rusty Simmons - San Francisco Chronicle
- Summer League: Brandan Wright Survives Game 1 - Adam Lauridsen - San Jose Mercury-News
- Golden State Warriors About to Make a HUGE MISTAKE with Anthony Morrow - Olympic Mike - Golden State of Mind
- Morrow Feels His Warriors Days Are Limited - Matt Steinmetz - CSN
- Warriors undecided on Morrow - Art Garcia - NBA.com
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ME TOO!
Very awesome pickup, this guy shoots 3s at a HIGH clip. A+ signing hands down.
by Special_Delivery on Jul 10, 2010 12:03 AM EDT up reply actions
Checked the #s
45.6% from downtown, made two 3s per game last season.
by Special_Delivery on Jul 10, 2010 12:06 AM EDT up reply actions
Yeah
they only use 5 foot rims.
(So what if they play uptempo? If anything more possessions should lower his percentage)
6'5", 210 lbs.
Can he bang a little (besides the 3ptrs)?
omg no
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by StinkyFingers on Jul 10, 2010 1:55 AM EDT up reply actions
Solid Pickup
little pricey, but as has been stated, that seems to be the trend this year.
better than spending close to 7 million per for Redick
which is what the Magic will spend if they match Chicago’s offer.
too pricey
r u kidding, 4 mill a yr, thats a good price for one of the best shooters in the league. Now what the nets can do is trade harris and lee and 2nd rd pick for Chris paul and Oakafor.
New lineup could be PG- Paul SG- Twill/morrow SF-OutlawDJAMES PF- Oakafor/Favors C-Lopez/Zoubec and maybe u sign brad miller or ben wallace as another big guy and maybe one more gaurd like shannon brown
he is one of the best shooters in the league
and the nets dont need to make that trade, nor would the hornets take that trade
Someone has to advise Mikhail, look how poorly he did with out us ;-)
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by dmitchell624 on Jul 10, 2010 1:22 AM EDT up reply actions
Outlaw
Was not a signing of smart pennies at all.
World Series attitude, champagne bottle life, nothing every changes so tonight is like tomorrow night.
i think OUtlaw was a decent signing… he is clutch at the 4th, can shoot, can REALLY dunk… i think he can be real good actually. 7M per is actually a decent deal i think
He's decent.
But he was never real good. Solid for the bench but not worth 7 mil IMO.
World Series attitude, champagne bottle life, nothing every changes so tonight is like tomorrow night.
Andris Biedrins
makes 9 mill
"...where they don't play with a shot clock." - C. Sager
I was thinking this in the other thread
if they’re trying to cut salary we should be going after him hard
I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson
but they aren;t trying to cut salary they are just trying to dump bad contracts
and Beans at $9M is not a bad contract. He;s cheap in todays dollars
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by StinkyFingers on Jul 10, 2010 1:58 AM EDT up reply actions
Dude he is a center and nothing near a PF
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by StinkyFingers on Jul 10, 2010 1:54 AM EDT up reply actions
Lopez can play pf next to him
I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson
I almost always agree with you
But I don’t want to move Lopez from center. Apart from just leaving him alone where he’s one of the better centers in the league already (top 5? 10 for sure), if Biedrens guarded the other center, could Lopez guard any PF?
by NetsJetsFan on Jul 10, 2010 10:46 AM EDT up reply actions
well the idea would be
Biedrins would be the defensive stopper in general for all big men. Collins played center and still guarded power forwards.
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I dont think thats pricey, thats a real solid player for 12 mil. This is great if GS doesn’t match.
I am going to turn this team around 360 Degrees- Jason Kidd
Agreed, but sadly I think he’s too valuable to them not to match.
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I know what the reports say.
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Exactly
I like craig smith honestly, but he’s not necessarily a starter, and yeah Bonner just resigned
great move nets!
first real good signing of the offseason, i really hope the warriors dont match this
this is the right way to go
when this guy gets minutes he lights it up. young, athletic and we’re not overspending
Love the signing
Great shooter, competes. But this dude is NOT athletic. Still great value. Outlaw and Morrow signings are good cap management in addition to smart basketball moves. A) take a young, underrated player with potential that other teams are sleeping on B) reap benefits of their likely improvement on the floor C) use their reasonable contracts in conjunction with draft picks to trade for a disgruntled superstar. Rod Thorn, Ladies and Gentle Nets fans, knows exactly what he is doing. Great job.
by BrooklynNets on Jul 10, 2010 12:29 AM EDT up reply actions
I like this signing a lot. Perhaps if Orlando needs to shed some salary to match the offer sheet with Redick, we can get Bass for a song.
I like your thinking…
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THANK THORN HERE!!!
People have compared him to Dwayne Wade, he is one of if not the best shooter in the NBA. He had the highest 3 point percentage. I say we TRADE Courtney lee not Twill. Quinton Ross and Courtney Lee for someone. We are going to be really good Brook will be able to throw him the ball when hes wide open. HE WILL BE AN ALL STAR UNDER AVERY!! I am so excited. NEW NETS!!
I do hope you're right, but don't think so.
BUT, Thorn has done terribly this offseason, this positive move nothwithstanding.
what?
the outlaw deal was mediocre, but what exactly has he done terrible.
I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson
yeah
yeah, just an incredible deal. everything we’ve been looking for Prokhorov to do.
i love the Outlaw deal
Even Hollinger likes it.
by Top Whodi on Jul 10, 2010 6:49 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
We picked up a good player that can start at SF until we can land something better
Really, the Nets haven’t done that badly. We addressed needs that fit in perfectly around the talent that we are grooming now.
"No one stands on the top of the world. Not you, not me, not even gods. But the unbearable vacancy of the throne in the sky is over. From now on...I will be sitting on it."
by MrDollarBills on Jul 11, 2010 3:14 AM EDT up reply actions
With David Lee signing, Warriors are close to $68 mill in salary
They match, they are over the luxury tax. Since they’re still trying to sell the team, I don’t think they would want to do that unless Larry Ellison buys the team this week.
Nick pick up.
They have been talking about trading Andris Biedrins in order to save salary.
"...where they don't play with a shot clock." - C. Sager
That was before the David Lee deal went down
The rumor was Biedrins for Kenyon Martin. But that just saves money long term and puts them way over the luxury tax.
Besides, Warriors owe Nets a favor for not going harder after David Lee.
Did you see that Morrow is a consistent 88% FT shooter, and 46% from 3Pt !! Is that best in NBA?
http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/players/4527/career;ylt=AkrYF72JIy7xZ7KDiO7XhQMPqB4
Yeah he is a better shot the just about all on our roster
Since the face been revealed the game got real
Let's not celebrate too soon...
Azubuike, Maggette, SJackson….all swingmen traded away between last season and this offseason.
He’s cheap and GS has no depth at GF.
by Whoop Dee Damn Doo on Jul 10, 2010 12:08 AM EDT reply actions
Yea, I’m thinking Warriors would match this. They just traded away Azubuike and Maggette this offseason.
not correct, they still have their full MLE which is worth almost $6M so they have plenty of money to sign him
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by StinkyFingers on Jul 10, 2010 1:57 AM EDT up reply actions
Solid move
I’m really surprised…wasn’t expecting a good deal like this
nelson likes to use d leaguers and undrafted guys, u never know his thinking
I am going to turn this team around 360 Degrees- Jason Kidd
Good Pickup
Still need a starting PF.
by NetsYankee on Jul 10, 2010 12:11 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
Watching summer league game now
They have a guard named Reggie Williams that they are expecting to get into the mix. He played some last year and did well. Could mean Morrow is expendable…
The Warriors really liked what they saw from Williams last year on his 10 day.
Not only signed him to the rest of last season, but this season also. But having Williams is what made Azubuike expendable. So that’s who he is replacing.
by The Golden One on Jul 10, 2010 3:32 AM EDT up reply actions
Unless they don't need him
most teams don’t give away talent if they want to win. My guess is they will match.
nice video
i like how he moves, stops , and shoots in transition and vs 1/2 court. I always like players with high ft%. It’s just a good sign.
Come on NETS FO
Keep making acquisitions that will lead us to the 8th seed and give us with flexibility for the future!!
Looks good to me..
“The Golden State Warriors have extended a qualifying offer to Anthony Morrow, making him a restricted free agent. Morrow’s offer is worth $1.029 million for next season. Morrow averaged 13 points and 3.8 rebounds in 69 games with Golden State last season, making 37 starts. He was fifth in the NBA in 3-point percentage, making 45.6 percent.”
I don’t think they spend the extra money on him. They won’t match imo.
by Special_Delivery on Jul 10, 2010 12:19 AM EDT reply actions
hmmm
with outlaw and morrow coming off the bench…that could be really good.
Only if we had gotten Boozer….this would be a playoff team.
but whatever, i like this deal and who knows? maybe Favors will surprise?
undersized SF, his feet are too slow to guard 2 guards.
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by StinkyFingers on Jul 10, 2010 2:01 AM EDT up reply actions
Outlaw is SO much better than Morrow.
I see them on the floor together, no?
In some ways your right but Morrow is WAYYYYYYY better sooter than Outlaw
Outlaw is hot and clod. Morrow is an assisin from 3.
Set a record by getting banned for the 8th time!
After rehab I saw the light and promise to be kinder and gentler!
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by StinkyFingers on Jul 10, 2010 2:02 AM EDT up reply actions
Morrow does one thing exceedingly well
Outlaw does a number of things well, including shoot. He is also 6’9" and can play the stretch 4.
We have a very young team that will compete SOON!
I trust Avery he will make us a playoff team
loving the offseason so far...with addition of a respectable coaching staff &
favors, james, outlaw, marrow…were not done
"We’re the new Nets. We’re leaving the old behind and we’re in with the new. Hopefully LeBron is going to be a part of that."
-Coach Avery Johnson.
ill give Clee the start first
and then all three will compete for it throughout the season…may the best win
"We’re the new Nets. We’re leaving the old behind and we’re in with the new. Hopefully LeBron is going to be a part of that."
-Coach Avery Johnson.
i think outlaw is the best fit to start
and they say twill isnt tall enough and not a good enough defender to start at the 3
if there's one thing we can piece together
from what appears on it’s face to be completely random actions, is that we are targeting players who are 1) young 2) athletic 3) play multiple positions 4) willing/able to play defense
so it seems were stockpiling these types of players, keeping cap flexibility (although i still wish we signed outlaw for 3yrs instead of 5) in order to play a 10 man rotation of a defensive minded but fast breaking ball, while having the ability to have enough assets in the case that a good trade situation arises. not bad
Harris / ?
CLee / Morrow
Outlaw / Twill
? / Favors / Hump
Lopez / ???
Now we need a starter PF and a backup C. Any ideas?
nah i think maybe we play hump and then maybe trade him at the deadline for picks or something.
Hump may not put up big numbers but he works hard. THat’s good enough for an expiring big off the bench
maybe we'll see a different Hump under Avery Johnson
what i’m really dying to see is a new Devin Harris…
the kid used to be a HAWK on D as we all know…
maybe not be a sexy idea
but Troy Murphy…$12 mil expiring deal..
Jersey guy is tough around the board and has a shot…basically the player yi never became
"We’re the new Nets. We’re leaving the old behind and we’re in with the new. Hopefully LeBron is going to be a part of that."
-Coach Avery Johnson.
i dunno about troy murphy. as we have learned this FA season, having the cap space isn’t enough to lure players into NJNETS
i’d rather have brandon bass. i hope magic match the bulls offer then we go scoop up bass from underneath em
brandon bass kinda sucks...he counldnt even get time on the court
"We’re the new Nets. We’re leaving the old behind and we’re in with the new. Hopefully LeBron is going to be a part of that."
-Coach Avery Johnson.
What does cap space have to do with it?
Troy Murphy is a temporary solution until Favors is ready. I love that idea.
David West would be another expiring contract to consider.
David West would be nice.
He’s from Teaneck too. I bet he’d like the idea of coming home too over staying on that awful Hornets team.
by Special_Delivery on Jul 10, 2010 12:35 AM EDT up reply actions
thanks "temporary solution"
harris
clee/marrow
outlaw/james
murphy/favors
brook
sixth man:twill
thats a good team
"We’re the new Nets. We’re leaving the old behind and we’re in with the new. Hopefully LeBron is going to be a part of that."
-Coach Avery Johnson.
Not the James we were all anticipating...
by BrooklynNets on Jul 10, 2010 12:38 AM EDT up reply actions
meh forget lebron, i still hate him for what he did, not just to the Nets but especially to the Cavs fans
eh, whatever...he wants to win...i don't hate lebron but CAN'T STAND wade
Lebron will be forgiven as soon as the season starts..
There is no way thats true
LeBron lost a lot last night in a lot of places.
I would hope you would support who we are. Not, who we are not. Coach Norman Dale "Hoosiers"
by dmitchell624 on Jul 10, 2010 12:55 AM EDT up reply actions
this
he practically decimated his own plan to become a global icon
I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson
by Gina on Jul 10, 2010 12:57 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Agreed
I think he is going to get a rude awakening this season that he is not the King anywhere but Miami now and he will answer to Wade even there
I would hope you would support who we are. Not, who we are not. Coach Norman Dale "Hoosiers"
by dmitchell624 on Jul 10, 2010 12:58 AM EDT up reply actions
i realized last night
that lebron is much more of a passive personality than i thought. he’s just a kid who wants to play with his buddies and has no problem w/ the ego part. possibly admirable, however he’s not the killer that jordan and kobe were/are.
Someone wrote on Facebook: "why would you want to be a Pip when you could have been Gladys Knight?"
I guess that’s only funny for those of you old enough to remember the Pips.
And there’s a really nasty T-Shirt out there that’s selling very well (it’s a tweet to LeBron’s new twitter account). If you want a sense of the hatred, take a look at Facebook: hate pages being created every couple of minutes.
Or a Pippen when you could have been a Jordan!
Seriously tho, Wade will know to take a back seat, even if the locals love him more. The ‘04 Sox where Schilling’s team not Pedro’s, but the fan’s hearts belonged to Pedro. Same thing will happen in Miami. LeBron will always be the number 1 option, but won’t own the city the way he could have elsewhere.
"Proky is NBA dumb!"
outlaw might be really good, but my only gripe is how good is he coming from his injury? i really hope he gets in game shape
the nets need a post up Small Forward
they already have a spot up shooter in Courtney Lee…
Carmelo Anthony type of a small forward is really needed here…
y do we need a post up sf carmelo is the only post up
sf i can think of and thats not all he does he’s just a pure scorer- he can score in every way
yeah he looks great to play that kind of game
he looks like he expoldes to the rim, but can dribble like a guard,
Since the face been revealed the game got real
post up small forward
thought he got a lot of points moving w/out ball
good? In the D league
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by StinkyFingers on Jul 10, 2010 2:04 AM EDT up reply actions
Troy Murphy is a Nets Killer, so I have a high opinion of him as a result.
With hopeful addition of Morrow and with Outlaw, adding Murphy would turn Nets into a respectable outside shooting team overnight.
12 million is feasible for just one year, and then re-evaluate Favors.
I must say, I am truly impressed with this move. GREAT shooter. GREAT pick up.
July 1st in this b***h wuzzzzup
-Proky and Hova
I agree.
He’s going to be a very integral part of this team.
by Special_Delivery on Jul 10, 2010 12:30 AM EDT up reply actions
Yeah I am soooo excited to see what james will do for us this year
Anyone know why he fell to the late first round?? Or were the players that got picked before him that much better??? I thought by what I saw in summer league is he looked as good if not better then the real high first round picks from what I saw of them play in the summer league.
Since the face been revealed the game got real
Yahoo called him the most NBA-ready player in the draft
by Taylor Bartle on Jul 10, 2010 2:49 AM EDT up reply actions
I like it
Dont know the exact quote but Don Nelson said that Morrow is the best shooter he’s ever coached
LOVE Morrow <333
He was on my fantasy team last year and was one of the reasons I got first place, great 3pt %, and a knock down shooter. Ladies and gentlemen, we just got ourselves some offense. I just really hope the Warriors don’t match or I might cry.
He would be taking away minutes from TWill.
No thanks.
And besides, TWill would be smiling and having too much fun with Nate as his teammate.
If GS is this desperate to cut salary
we should be going after brandon wright and biedrins hard
I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson
by Gina on Jul 10, 2010 12:44 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
wright would be a bench piece not a starter
hence biedrins, who is a manimal, and only 24.
I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson
biedrins is a beast
but i don’t know if we have anything to trade for him.. it’ll be interesting to see if anything develops
lol yeah i think he shot less then 15 percent or something
but he can get boards and is an efficient scorere around the basket
Golden State isnt desperate to cut Salary
They wanted to cut salary before off season with the sale process going through. To make the books look better.
But binding bids were due on Tuesday. The prospective owners were told about the Lee trade before it went down, they were all ok with it.
Today it was narrowed down to two people. With Larry Ellison most likely one of them. Since he’s worth 28 billion, which is over twice as much as your extremely rich owner. Cutting cost might be over.
by The Golden One on Jul 10, 2010 2:42 AM EDT up reply actions
i'm with you there...
Ellison should buy the Warriors to end the suffering of the Bay Area fans. What a circus they have there.
If they match...could we put out another offer??
…and would it be worth it to put up another offer? if so…how much more?
HAHAHAH MoRROW's % for 3's is HIGHER THEN JOSH BOONES Free throw %
WE no longer have Najeras, Boones, Yi’s, Quinns, Simmons, WE ARE A BRAND NEW TEAM!!!
by RandyOreens on Jul 10, 2010 12:48 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
this
THE QUEEN WILL RUE THE DAY HE DISSED US.
I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson
okay maybe not
but 26 wins here we come!
I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson
26 wins only....wow Gina
;-)
I would hope you would support who we are. Not, who we are not. Coach Norman Dale "Hoosiers"
by dmitchell624 on Jul 10, 2010 12:51 AM EDT up reply actions
i want Perry Jones!
I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson
a sf I think
and because I assume there’s no chance we pick higher than 3
I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson
maybe we can trade for him at the draft
I would hope you would support who we are. Not, who we are not. Coach Norman Dale "Hoosiers"
by dmitchell624 on Jul 10, 2010 8:36 AM EDT up reply actions
i would think it would be high
but reports seem to be saying no one’s expecting them to match, which is weird. But Golden State is known for weird.
I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson
i'll be so psyched if we land him...and significantly more confident in our rebuilding process with all this great youth.
we’re in dire need of players who can spread the floor. After him we need a true pass first point guard. Would Ridnour be our best choice for pass 1st?? We need someone to get the ball to Brook and Favors bad.
Great pick up
This is great. I would say now we go after a quality power forward. A lot of people
by Jay2fly on Jul 10, 2010 12:51 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
backup pg dilemma
How much would the following players cost us for back-up point guard?
A) Jordan Farmar
B) Earl Watson
C) Carlos Arroyo
Who else would be in the mix?
Great pick up
This is great. I would say now we go after a quality power forward. A lot of people think we need a stud @ the 4, I think we just need someone like haslem.
by Jay2fly on Jul 10, 2010 12:53 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
one last time in the spot light
he loves it
by RandyOreens on Jul 10, 2010 12:59 AM EDT up reply actions
Haslem has said he isn't leaving
after the Heat and his fmaily and friends threw him a surprise party. Plus wade wants him end of story
by killa kadafi191 on Jul 10, 2010 1:15 AM EDT up reply actions
that would be leaving a LOT of money on the table.
a WHOLE LOT.
can we trade GS's pick back to GS
for Biedrins and Wright?
like has that ever happened? And is it legal?
I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson
I mean I don't actually expect that to happen
or for that to be a realistic price. I’m just curious.
I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson
4 years of that guy...
I’m sorry but he will be a liability. He can’t hit from the foul line. It would be “hack-a-shaq” on him…. I rather not. Favors will fit what he is doing. Plus he will be better from the charity stripe.
Now this is good, but it raises the question...
What’s gonna go on with the logjam at the 2 and the 3? Is there a trade in the works because having to shuffle T-Will, Lee, Jones, Outlaw, Morrow, Ross is gonna be tough for Avery. Also, I think Morrow should start over Lee, but I’m sure some would oppose that.
The lineup I would prefer:
Harris
Morrow
Outlaw
Favors
Lopez
Bench:
T-Will
Lee
Jones
Hump
Big Z
Ross
Uzoh
I'm not sure I'd really consider Ross part of the logjam
I’m guessing they want T-will to back up the point, Morrow to back up Lee, and James to back up Outlaw.
I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson
t-will as the back – up pg?
he’s still a little rough
your right
I said a few times he can’t play point guard without making some serious adjustments to his style. Shot selection, crazy high risk passes, not using the whole floor to create seems. I understand he is young but he needs a lot of work imo
Since the face been revealed the game got real
Avery is probabky going to dictate everything TWill does
as he did with Devin…until he learns when and how to pass. Avery said he did not see TWill as a PG. Presumably he won’t shelve the guy’s playing making abilities but will develop them.
im not either
im more saying what I would figure is their plan. Unless they plan on moving some of these players.
I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson
o I got you
Do you think he wil be able to adjust , or will it be a long slow process, I can’t reallt tell.
Since the face been revealed the game got real
big z?
I really don’t want him to be part of this team…
we’re looking for young guys that we can develop some kind of chemistry
Zoubek.
Lol for some reason I always think Damion James, but type Jones. Weird.
I do the same thing
wasn’t there a player with the same name, or a similar one, drafted around the same place in the draft?
I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson
Damon Jones is a shooter...we had him and let him go.
I think he may still be in the league.
Ross will be the Bobby Simmons
The man who sits in the corner in a suit
For our starting SF
I seriously like RJ. Not that much money (7-9 mil), and he can still put up 17 points per game. It’s not like he’s past his prime, he’s only 30! And I Aldo really like Al Harrington at PF.
we have enough small forwards at this point
I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson
think it's
a PF and backup PG and it’s a wrap
unless there’s some crazy deal brewing where we send guys&picks for a legit star
Even if I
thought RJ was worth it, I am pretty sure he opted out of a last year deal for 15 million. So you don’t risk that money unless you are trying to get a lot more then that IMO. So he will most likely want like a 4 or 5 year deal I am guessin, he has declinded a lot in a few years so, pass.
Since the face been revealed the game got real
i just wish Yi wasn't traded over the summer
having him coming off the bench for 10-15 mins is better then Hump coming off the bench in my opinion
NO!
I disagree Yi was just never going to understand the NBA, he wouldnt have fit in well with Avery…ATT ALL!
I never understood us trading for Yi
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by dmitchell624 on Jul 10, 2010 1:19 AM EDT up reply actions
Trading Yi to get cap space for LeBron was a nice way to get rid of him without hurting China's feelings.
And China should like having Yi in the nation’s capital and with Wall – lots of televised games.
But he can still score
He’s gonna be cheap and I know he wants to come, he loved it here
From Fear the Sword
The Cav’s SB Nation site:
MIAMI GETS:
LeBron James, who signs a 6-year, $110 million contract
CLEVELAND GETS:
Two first-round picks, that must be used starting in 2013 and ending by 2017
2012 second-round pick Miami received from New Orleans
Future second-round pick Heat acquired from Oklahoma City
Cleveland can also swap first round picks with the Heat in 2012
A large trade exception($15 million or so) that the Cavs must use in trades for one calendar year.
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i thought gilbert claimed there would be no sign and trade?
I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson
I guess he realized getting something rather than nothing is much better
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by dmitchell624 on Jul 10, 2010 1:20 AM EDT up reply actions
added info
“This deal allows LeBron James to make some more money while allowing Miami to have flexibility to sign more players this summer.
For the Cavaliers, this obviously allows them to rebuild through the draft, or use the picks for trades themselves should the opportunity arise. The trade exception will also allow the Cavaliers to acquire talent now(for the next 12-months) to assist in the rebuilding process."
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by dmitchell624 on Jul 10, 2010 1:26 AM EDT up reply actions
A trade exception for $15m is quite a bit
to acquire a player
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by dmitchell624 on Jul 10, 2010 1:27 AM EDT up reply actions
eh they'll likely be pretty mediocre picks
im not sure they’ll really do much as far as rebuilding.
I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson
Is that what Gilbert meant by doing right by Cleveland???
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"Cleveland can also swap first round picks with the Heat in 2012"
Thats kinda pointless…Cleveland is never gonna have a higher record than the Heat, unless they wanna swap to trade down for salary reasons
LOL
Michael Beasley’s father is claiming he was traded because he looked too much like Delonte.
I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson
I see someone's mom looking for his phone number right now
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by dmitchell624 on Jul 10, 2010 1:20 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
“Russian billionaire and New Jersey Nets owner Mikhail Prokhorov met with LeBron James last week. It didn’t last very long. LeBron James had no knowledge of any U.S. defense installations in the greater Cleveland area, much less how to break into them.”
haha
by giacomo on Jul 10, 2010 1:30 AM EDT reply actions 2 recs
Hahaha!
I don’t know if this is your quote or someone else’s, but THAT’S GOLD, JERRY!
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Hey net income
If Golden State does not match, you said we just have to give up money right????
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if they don't match he gets the contract
I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson
Yeah but as far as compensation for signing another team’s RFA, I thought Net Income told me the other day that we would have to give them up to 3 million dollars, but I am not sure if I remember that right. But as far as you know we don’t have to give up picks??
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Matt Steinmetz CSN sports bay Are Tweets
Warrior GM is considering matching and while it is a little higher than they wanted to go, they really really like Morrow.
Set a record by getting banned for the 8th time!
After rehab I saw the light and promise to be kinder and gentler!
Probation is a very slippery slope!
could be worse
The GM could have said, “we are definitely matching!”… instead he has to think about it.
can we send a pick and cash to them so they DONT match? or is that not legal. can u sign-and-trade for a restricted?
again, we have two of their picks
that they gave us for Marcus Williams. I would happily give up one for Morrow.
Warriors waited too long to give Morrow an offer.
Its common for teams that hold restricted free agents to withhold contract offers until other teams make a formal offer or until the free agent gets tired of waiting for a contract and accepts a lesser deal than he would at the start of free agency. Rockets are doing the same thing right now with Scola. I dont necessarily think the lack of an offer equates to them being less than fully interested in bringing back Morrow, though I hope that is the case.
Do we decide?
I don’t have a problem giving one pick up for getting a player like Morrow. But what determines which pick we have to give back? I am just curious in general.
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Good looking pickup. Im liking this!!
Its NETS or NOTHING
by Montize Thomas Goode on Jul 10, 2010 1:48 AM EDT reply actions
Hey guys, Morrow is a great great shooter but he is NOT a starter.
He is a good 7th or 8th player. So even if he comes your way, do not expect him to play more than 20-24 minutes per game. He is simply very bad defensively, can not dribble the ball for his life and is not much more than a spot up shooter albeit a great one at that.
Set a record by getting banned for the 8th time!
After rehab I saw the light and promise to be kinder and gentler!
Probation is a very slippery slope!
is anyone saying he'll be a starter?
I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson
He is geting 4 million dollars, I don’t know many starters in the NBA that are not on a rookie contract that start. He is a perfect come off the bench shooter
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yes about 5 or 6 posts above
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Probation is a very slippery slope!
by StinkyFingers on Jul 10, 2010 1:59 AM EDT up reply actions
i felt bad for the guy he posterized
its summer league…
"We’re the new Nets. We’re leaving the old behind and we’re in with the new. Hopefully LeBron is going to be a part of that."
-Coach Avery Johnson.
we had 12 wins last year and no one felt bad for us
i just like hearing “Favors with 23 and 11 as the Nets roll over the Celtics 86-68” on ESPN…even if the game does not on any level matter at all.
have some heart
Vyacheslav Kravstov must have felt embarrassed…
at least favors doesnt celebrate arrogantly
"We’re the new Nets. We’re leaving the old behind and we’re in with the new. Hopefully LeBron is going to be a part of that."
-Coach Avery Johnson.
umm
Durant definitely gets hyped and excited. He would’ve been yelling and pounding his chest after that dunk.
thats a good observation
Not sure about the compairson to Durant, but I was thinking that when I was watching him the last few dqays. He seemed nervous but never overwelmed
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So Net Income meant if we give Warriors a pick, then they would not match to give us a favor?
is that a verbal agreement ?
not really sure
I am still trying to understand what pick they get back, and how thats determined
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under league rules
all three parties—the Nets, Warriors and Morrow—would have to agree to pull the offer sheet and restructure the deal.
The Nets hold two of the Warriors picks in the next two drafts: the unprotected second round pick in 2011 and the first round (protected, 1-7) pick in 2012. The Nets originally received a heavily protected first round pick in 2011, but the Warriors asked that it be moved back to 2012. Thorn agreed but exacted a price: the second round pick in 2011 and the lighter protections. Moreover, that first round pick hangs around if the Warriors are bad enough to warrant a high pick in 2012. It rolls over to 2013, protected 1-7 again, then if the Warriors retain the pick in that draft, it becomes protected 1-6 in 2014. And then, if the pick still hasn’t been exercised in 2013 because of the protections, it finally becomes two second round picks, in 2014 and 2016.
There are lots of possibilities. The Warriors could ask the Nets to restructure the deal so the protections are heavier, say lottery protected, in 2012, or ask for the second round pick back, or ask that if the first round pick isn’t exercised in 2012, it goes away.
I suspect that’s what it will get down to, a trade rather than a signing.
Oh ok now I understand what you meant
with Golden State needs to do us a favor back. Jesus that stuff is almost another language LOL well a Golden State fan just posted in here about they will match. But now after you explained that I can see why they most likely wont. Thanks for typing that out for me.
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by my calculations
The Nets would have $21.929 million in cap space after the Outlaw and Morrow signings. I assume they still intend to sign Farmar, but we don’t how much he is being offered or whether he will take it.
That means they currently have a payroll of $26.115 million. The league requires that each team have a MINIMUM payroll, which this year is $43.5 million. That means the Nets MUST spend another $17.385 million before October. (They will add to their payroll automatically when they sign Favors and James. First round picks traditionally get a 20% bonus above the rookie salary scale. That would add a little less than $1 million.)
Because they are under the cap, they can take on additional salary in trades. I think that’s the next move, a trade for a PF.
Suggestions?
Any idea what PFs the Nets may want to trade for? I would think Troy Murphy would be a good rental, but what are the Nets giving up in that, or any, trade?
Murphy is slow as molasses
and plays poor defense. I can’t see that happening.
Too bad Boozer left Utah. With all that cap space, you could take on AK-47 for a year. I’d rather have him than Murphy in the kind of system the Nets are planning. The Jazz need AK-47 now
A trade of AK-47 for Lee and/or a pick or two would lighten the luxury tax load for the Jazz, give them a huge trade exception and a pick or two. The Jazz are almost certainly going to lose Kirilenko. It would put the Nets about $5 million under the cap.
I don't get what everyone is excited about
I like Morrow, but we are starting to cash in on our assets now. Restructuring the G.S. picks for a packup shooting guard and now we are going to give up Lee, who is signed for two more years under and rookie contract and is starter quality for a one year rental at forward because we struck out royally even though there were 10 solid big men in this market.
Makes no sense.
Josh Smith????
I did not hear they were intrested in Farmar, that is great news, he left the Lakers to play more or even start from what he said. If they sign him does that have any affect on Harris. Not sure if he can run the team alone or not but by them signing him would that mean the Nets see Harris as expendible? And I know Josh Smith is most likely not gonna happen but with them targeting a PF do you know if they had someone in mind?
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the same reason they're signing Joe Johnson to a max contract
and then talking about shipping off two far superior players in the first place?
i.e they’re really stupid?
I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson
If they sign him does that have any affect on Harris. Not sure if he can run the team alone or not but by them signing him would that mean the Nets see Harris as expendible?
Please. How could someone like Farmar make Harris expendable? Are you kidding me? Farmar is not a starter, he’s a very averga back up. And from every article he was being mentioned in, that’s the role they want him to play here, Devin’s back up.
exactly!!! thats whats next a trade for a PF
"We’re the new Nets. We’re leaving the old behind and we’re in with the new. Hopefully LeBron is going to be a part of that."
-Coach Avery Johnson.
We needed a sharpshooter now we got one......Hopefully
Alot of people are sleeping on Travis Outlaw he isn’t a scrub. For the price we got this guy at this was a good signing. I Like the route Rod Thorn is taking instead of basically giving our salary away he’s spending it wisely smart moves for a SMART man I’m going to miss Thorn. In Thorn We Trust.
Outlaw has never been used properly
he is very athletic. The Portland offense is notoriously slow…it is always among the slowest in the league, bottom 2 or 3. The Nets offense will be wide open. He should flourish in that kind of offense.
Yes!
I Like this up-tempo style of play the Nets are putting together. We’re starting to look like the 02-03 Nets again. Run & Gun should be fun this season.
In Avery And Rod We Trust!
Run & Gun should be fun
fun when you have an explosive style, capable of sudden scoring runs
Just heard Derek Fisher is talking to the Heat..LOL
wow that should get the Lakers attention, I her he wants to stay but wants money most likely using meeting with Heat to leaverage a better offer.
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I would kind of think signing Blake
means they’re prepared for him to walk
I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson
Oh I guess I missed that signing.
I am just trying to figure out if they are okay with losing Farmar and Fisher in the same year. Cause I think Farmar could handle a lot more minutes then he was being used for.
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they want fish to take a 50 percent pay cut. He is fighting back. He is pres of the players association, after all.
"...where they don't play with a shot clock." - C. Sager
by kv on Jul 10, 2010 3:22 AM EDT up reply actions
but if he does walk Kobe is going to be very upset.....
and said they better keep Fisher
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by dmitchell624 on Jul 10, 2010 8:41 AM EDT up reply actions
I won’t believe it until it happens. Fisher leaving Kobe for them not happening Fisher is too classy for that.
If he left, I suspect it wouldn’t really be his choice (ie. the Lakers not prepared to give him another contract).
That said, I still think they’re more likely to let Farmar go.
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Class?
it’s about money.
As for players signing for vets minimum….if the Heat win a championship, that’s another $1 to $2 million at the end of the playoffs. That’s got to be part of Riley’s pitch.
How is it not classy
he wanted more money then they offered, the Heat might have a good chace this year, why would he not try to win another one.
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Kobe’s pitch or Pat Riley’s pitch? I’m leaning towards Kobe’s for now honestly. Plus Phil Jackson’s back for one more year I can’t see Fisher leaving after winning back to back with them.
Fisher already left the Lakers once, for the Jazz.
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by kv on Jul 10, 2010 3:23 AM EDT up reply actions
yeah but he won 5 there
and they as of right now have the best chance to come out of the west again. I am not saying he wouldn’t leave, but if the lakers match what ever offer he gets, pretty sure he will return.
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I agree, unless he has been offended.
The Lakers are being penny wise and pound foolish here. This is a historic season, not a time to get touchy with their core group.
"...where they don't play with a shot clock." - C. Sager
by kv on Jul 10, 2010 3:44 AM EDT up reply actions
Jackson is back to go for his 4th Three-peat!
and if it is against the Heat I will be a huge Laker fan for that series
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by dmitchell624 on Jul 10, 2010 8:42 AM EDT up reply actions
SOLID SIGNING
We needed a shooter of the caliber.
This year is going to be interesting to watch. I like what we’re doing here. Now we need to get a PF, and address the PG position
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Here's a good article on the offer sheet and warriors thinking.
He’s not signing the offer sheet til Monday, so you have to wait about 9 days to see what happens.
http://www.ibabuzz.com/warriors/2010/07/09/morrow-gets-offer-sheet-from-nets/
LOL
not signing until Monday, maybe I am reading to far into this, but it seems like he is giving Golden State extra time and every opportunity to match
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I was just about to say
This signing seems to good to be true. Why wouldn’t Golden State match? And he seems to be a Fan favorite too over there. I guess we’ll see in 8 days.
scroll up
NI explained we have their picks which they might want back, so they might trade for a pick back. He went into great detail if you scroll up.
It is not a sure thing, but there is a real good chance we get him.
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The Warriors front office is seriously screwed up, that's why.
Everyone pretty much expects them all to be let go with the coaching staff the minute the sale is final.
It’s rumored Larry Ellison already has it lined for Jerry West and David Griffin to take over the front office. Which would explain why Griffin left the Suns all of a sudden. Then Kerr left when Griffin left town.
He is definitely a fan favorite has even been the face of the franchise this off season for all their logo releases and community work. But Curry it the true face of the franchise.
Anthony Randolph was a fan favorite too and you see where that got him.
by The Golden One on Jul 10, 2010 3:38 AM EDT up reply actions
Gives time for a physical for when he signs the offer sheet.
by The Golden One on Jul 10, 2010 3:33 AM EDT up reply actions
thanks for the link
See what they mean, nellie loves a waterfall of 3s
Nets ready for offer sheet for Scola
Another front court player who is drawing a lot of interest is Houston Rockets forward Luis Scola, who is a restricted free agent. The Cavaliers have not reached out to Scola, though sources close to the situation tell HOOPSWORLD the New Jersey Nets are preparing a “big money” offer sheet for Scola. That doesn’t mean the Rockets will let him walk . . .GM Daryl Morey has been very clear in saying they will match any offer for Scola. They’re likely waiting for a team to set his value so they can match it and move on, just as they did with Carl Landry two summers ago.
Read more NBA news and insight: http://www.hoopsworld.com
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"...where they don't play with a shot clock." - C. Sager
please do this...
i don’t care what anyone says on here about Scola being old. If we have Scola playing in front of Favors for 2 years and on contract for 3 to 4, it’s going to be so invaluable to the progress and development of Favors.
He’s a beast and he’ll get our team competitive and confident (two things this Nets team needs bad)
This is no eddie najera signing. Scola is a baller and was huge for the Rockets when Yao got hurt. He’d be sick next to Lopez.
Outlaw, Morrow, and Scola is A+ to me for a rebuilding team. At least its honest rebuilding compared to that crap in South Beach. LBJ is a joke of a sportsman and rolemodel. At least we all truly know who he is now. We don’t have to wonder who he is. Like I said before, the Nets should set their sights away from him and he should set his to Cleveland but he’s clearly not smart enough to know what establishes true glory as an idolized sports star.
Lets get more good character, hard working guys on this team and then with luck we could land Melo.
I’m excited for this rebuilding process and am not at all upset by the loss of Queen James.
Also Woj reports
Reddick almost ready to sign with Bulls. Huge shooting team there now. (How about that for shooters Gina? Reddick and Korver.)
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conference maybe.
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by kv on Jul 10, 2010 4:01 AM EDT up reply actions
I have heard that he hasbeen able to get 8 mill in cap space. I can't believe it.
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by kv on Jul 10, 2010 4:05 AM EDT up reply actions
There was a plan to backload the Haslem deal, and there are apparently exemptions he gets from sign and trading both Lebron and Bosh. I don’t understand exactly how, but there was a tweet.
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by kv on Jul 10, 2010 4:09 AM EDT up reply actions
BLA3CH
Tell kv when you get a chance that the reason I didn’t respond is because I fell asleep. I’ve been on here so much that I needed some rest. I don’t appreciate him saying I don’t know someone, when, indeed I do. I’ll work on the story, and see what I can do. Tell him all of this, OK? It’s late(after 4AM), and I want to catch up on more sleep.
OK I will tell him
you never declared you knew someone, you said maybe, so its not like you said "hey I know this reporter " and he said no you didn’t cause I was not excatly sure if you said you absolutly did or not, I told him you might know someone.
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I can’t see any team beating the Heat for years to come. Seems like they will be able to surround the big 3 with some decent players. And this is just year one. Each offseason will present the opportunity to augment their roster further. I just don’t see them losing, even to the Lakers.
If they get Haslem to stay, HUGE deal
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by kv on Jul 10, 2010 4:09 AM EDT up reply actions
lets see if they canc coexist before we fit them for rings
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The big thing is the center position. If they don’t have that, they have nothing.
"...where they don't play with a shot clock." - C. Sager
by kv on Jul 10, 2010 4:12 AM EDT up reply actions
yea cause they can both run the offense and bosh down low no NEED for pg but yeah thats the question. They drafted someone in the 2nd round, but the rookie starting at center on a team like that is silly IMO
before I was joking and brought up Shaq but lol that might be pretty funny. I mean if you are going to have the “3 all egos” (thank you just came up with it) then whats one more, throw Shaq in there he also refers to himself in the 3rd person.
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lupo asked me to ask you to read his post scroll up a page
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Also. The Cavs in line to pick up Jefferson for nothing.
"...where they don't play with a shot clock." - C. Sager
Al jefferson??
how did they manage that, salary dump?? he can play PF also I think.
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Its because they get a 16 mill trade exemption in the sign and trade for Lebron.
"...where they don't play with a shot clock." - C. Sager
by kv on Jul 10, 2010 4:38 AM EDT up reply actions
Dazzed and Confused....
The Morrow offer confuses me. We should be looking for a PF to start, not another wing. We can not go into the season with only Favors and Hump as PFs.
Paul from Delray Beach
Not done yet
We’ve been continually trying. Every option so far has been swept off the board, so we’re still looking at who we can get
This signing addresses a huge need
I know that I can’t be the only who is tired of watching Lopez having to deal with triple teams.
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by MrDollarBills on Jul 11, 2010 3:20 AM EDT up reply actions
This is more like it
I don’t mind striking out if it meant overspending and yes we need to rebuild but good player that fill need on REASONABLE contracts is what we need to do. A+
I don't see what all the hubub is about
He’s a great shooter and he’ll help us with out terrible 3pt shooting, but that’s it. That’s all he’ll do. It’s a good signing, but it’s funny that this is all we have to rejoice about now
So all we need now is farmar and Scola.
harris /farmar/uzoh
clee /morrow/twill
outlaw /djames
scola /favors/hump
lopez /zoubek
Thats a pretty decent team that coached properly and hustled everynite on defense could be a 6-8 seed in the east. If favors can learn quickly and Twill can stop being turnover prone thats a dangerous bench.
Lets go Farmar and Scola!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Come be the sparks of a soon to be raging fire in the East!
man...
Twill is buried there…I’m somewhat confused. I like depth but what happens to TWill?
I see a trade coming. Prob Clee, we can start Twill or Morrow makes the back court bigger. Only way we start Twill is if we can grab farmar though.
Clee Hump and picks should bring us back a starting Pf.
We don't even have to lose CLee
If we can’t sign a starting PF, we could trade for one with a bloated, yet expiring contract, and the salary cap relief alone is more than enough to get you an AK or KMart… not need to lose CLee.
at Hey Now
Williams is our best wing and our best perimeter player along w/ Devin, he won’t be buried bc we brought guys like those
how is t-will buried
People seem to forget how many minutes we were giving to guys like hassel and hayes last year, even with outlaw, who can also spend time playing stretch four, there are minutes to go around.
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Why would he want to play here?
Why would he want to spend his maybe last 2 years on a noncontender instead of maybe getting 2 more rings? Not to mention he’s not very good anymore and would probably make us worse. Not exactly the best influence you want on your young kids as well
I thought he was from Newark and maybe he would want to finish out his career there.And recently I saw him with the ball backing down Noah from the bulls, and Noah was getting bounced around like a rag doll.
Being able to back down Noah does not mean he's any good, or at least largely better than someone else you could find out there
And just because he’s from Newark doesn’t mean he wants to play on a losing team. Why would anyyy veteran with only a few years left want to unless no one else would sign them? And yes, he will still have some suitors just because he’s a big body
Apparently there’s [some] mutual interest with the Spurs.
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Would be the worst decision for them, they need everyone they can get, but he wouldn't help with their pick and roll defense, which suffered greatly last season
Tiago Splitter would though, they reportedly have come to an agreement with him. Look for the Spurs to keep being significant
I like this addition if we can get Morrow that’d be great.
by BLUEPRINT.FOR.GREATNESS on Jul 10, 2010 6:39 AM EDT reply actions
Well the Rockets are supposedly gonna match any and all offers for him so he's a longshot
Trade is our best bet now, we’ve got a ton of salary we have to get to make the minimum salary. Like NI said
That means they currently have a payroll of $26.115 million. The league requires that each team have a MINIMUM payroll, which this year is $43.5 million. That means the Nets MUST spend another $17.385 million before October.
can't we peitition the league
and say we tried but that nobody wants to play in the state of the art arena in Newark.
Never really liked Farmar when he was in LA, but I dont think he is bad to be Harris’s backup. We were in desperate need of a shooter, and Morrow definitly brings that. All we need is a PF and were set. The team will be young but will grow throughout the season, and since there are only 3 decent teams in the East, the field is wide open.
The teams that should be easily better than us
Miami, Chicago, Boston, Orlando, Atlanta that ’s five
Middle of the road teams: Milwaukee (probably better than us), Detroit (probably better than us), Indiana (probably better than us), Charlotte (probably better than us),
Knicks (close), Phil (close), Washington (close)
Horrible teams: Toronto, Cleveland,
The wild card here is Scola he MAY move us into the second tier, Sixers have more depth than us. I expect improvement especially as Lopez establishes himself as one of the top centers in the league, but we will suffer from many “rookie mistakes” which is ok, if Favors is starting I think we’re looking at the 7th or 8th pick in the draft at best. If we sign Scola we’re late lottery with an outside shot at the playoffs.
Nets about to frontload Scola
http://realgm.com/src_wiretap_archives/68046/20100710/nets_preparing_big_money_offer_for_scola/
They’ll probably match right?
Depends on whether offer we make right?
BTW, anyone see Lupojohn lately? Is he ok?
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by dmitchell624 on Jul 10, 2010 9:33 AM EDT up reply actions
Yeah I know
but if we front load it and cause them to inhibit their other plans that would be a possible success right?
I would hope you would support who we are. Not, who we are not. Coach Norman Dale "Hoosiers"
by dmitchell624 on Jul 10, 2010 9:36 AM EDT up reply actions
They don't really have a whole lot of other plans
They have Kevin Martin, they have Trevor Ariza, they have Yao, they have Aaron Brooks, etc
The "2010-2011" NETS.....
Will be a young , Really Fast TEAM that can shoot the ball and have alot of Chemistry….We also have a whole team that has not won a Ring and will play really hard to get there….All we need now is a point guard (ie.JKIDD) who needs to prove himself and have a career year (Luke Ridnour)(Not Farmar who already has rings)(maybe it will be Devin Harris) to run ,I mean run this team and we will make it to the Finals…..
SCOLA..WOW...SCOLA.....
WOW….Just Imagine…The Nets are really kickin’ butt now…..This would be a great signing………I’d love to get Ridnour and bring back Keyon….Add Outlaw and Morrow , another decent PF……..We will have a much better team (chemistry) than we would have had with these overpaid,injury prone ,egotistical free agents if we landed them…..GO NETS !!!!!!!
i'm not expecting it to happen
but i’ll be happy if it does, indifferent if it doesn’t. I know he’s good for this team—that’s for sure.
no
its not happening…Rockets will match and I’m sorry but a big money deal would mean giving Scola, who is 30, a five year deal, taking him to 35.
It feels like
It feels like either desperation or the Nets are accumulating assets to make a trade.
Al Harrington
Why hasn’t anyone mentioned anything about this guy. He has offense and can rebound. Defense is suspect though but at least he is another weapon in the offense. He’s also willing to sign with us as per his previous interviews.
prolly cuz he'd be overpriced for what he does and what the Nets actually need--which is not him.
They need a true 4. They have plenty of 3/4s right now.
Yes on harrington
Avery would teach him how to play “D”….
nah man...they got Outlaw...why Harrington?
Plus…Scola over Harrington….we need game changers and Harrington ain’t one.
there's no game changers available.
I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson
Cutting out parts about his shooting,
Solid ball handler, who can get to the rim since the defense has to respect his shot. Isn’t the best finisher due to his lack of ideal athleticism, but draws a lot of contact and goes to the line at a very high rate. Great foul shooter. Knows how to work off the ball and proves to be a pretty effective drive and kick player. Has the killer instinct that prolific shooters need to have to be as productive as he is. Always in attack mode. Thrives off of defensive mistakes.
From DraftExpress.com http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Michael-Redd-4049/#ixzz0tHs2jZiY
http://www.draftexpress.com
Except he's a bad ballhandler, aka never gonna make offense like Redd off the dribble
85% of his shots are jump shots and 70% of those are assisted. They account for 9.9 of his 13 ppg
To compare, Redd in 07-08
71% of his shots were jump shots, only 54% were assisted, and they only accounted for 11.5 of his 22.7 points per game
Has anyone commended Morrow on anything but his shooting?
Besides his incredible shooting ability, there isn’t a great deal to speak of about Morrow’s game. His ball-handling skills are poor, meaning he rarely if ever gets to the free throw line. He generated just a single assist in his three games here in Vegas, although he’s traditionally not a turnover prone player at all to counter that when he’s playing in a real basketball setting. He’s actually an extremely intelligent player who understands his limitations quite well and knows how to maximize himself on the court. Defensively, he doesn’t offer a great deal, as he’s often willing to put the effort in, but just doesn’t really have the physical tools to be much of a presence here.
From DraftExpress.com http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Anthony-Morrow-1003/#ixzz0tHxQVDqF
http://www.draftexpress.com
so he didnt dish out too many assists in summer league, he can still distribute the ball
plays decent d, getting into the passing lanes, not the most athletic but he has good vision, ball handling might not be his number one thing, but we arent looking for him to get to the basket much, just stretch the defense and he will get his shots when lopez gets doubled, mind you everyone remembers Redd for his shooting, that is where he was effective and was an all star, and the same will be said for morrow, i honestly hate comparing players straight up, like comparing a fingerprint
Exactly, his only job will be standing on the court and waiting for the ball
Michael Redd was no such player, he was a 22 ppg guy. He could do more that stand around and shoot. So I think it’s safe to say that no, he will not be the next Michael Redd.
What does he have to do with anything? What is he suddenly going to change a player's complete makeup? Is he gonna give Morrow more skills suddenly with a wave of his hand?
He’s a good shooter, he can do more than just catch and shoot, but to expect him to be THAT much more is unreasonable. What is he gonna be driving to the rim all the time suddenly? Is he suddenly gonna be more athletic?
And please present some form of evidence of his defense and court vision at least
And no, Redd was not an allstar just because he could shoot, he was an allstar because he could do MORE than just shoot.
And the Warriors play at one of the fastest paces in the NBA aka large amount of possessions compared to other teams
They also frequently played small, not to mention lost all of their bigs pretty much. I hardly thing 1.5 assists a game in 29 minutes is something to brag about 3 rebounds too and 0.9 steals a game
Michael Redd also got to the line 6.8 times a game in 07-08 (last valid healthy season)
Morrow only gets to the line 1.65 times a game
LUIS SCOLA
Is a very under rated player……Every team that he has played for has done extremely well while he was there and mediocre when he left…He may be 30 but he plays like he is 21…He is worth ,to a team , pay wise , as much as Lee and Boozer are making….I’d pay dearly for him…The Nets will win 50 games if we get him…Remember ,Chemistry…..GO NETS !!!!!
Is that supposed to be in the Euroleague? Because's he's only played for the Rockets in his career
And he’s more of an intangibles, scrappy guy. 16 and 8 isn’t really worth 13 million and up, especially at 30 years old. And having no blocks as well. Consider also he was pretty much the tallest guy getting regular minutes already in Houston last year
SCOLA....
played for the Spurs…When he left , they weren’t the same team….
He never played for the Spurs
They held his rights, but never got to sign him, traded him to the Rockets before even playing there. C’mon wikipedia this stuff at least before so we have the facts straight
Luis Scola was in that movie "Get Him to the Greek" too wasn't he?
Oh wait, that was Russell Brand.
Fabricio Oberto was the one that played for the Spurs! He won a championship with them!
Scola never played for the Spurs! Look it up, and get back to me. You’re welcome
might need to look to trade for a pf for the time being, id like to maybe grab one off of Sacramentos hands, they are lock jammed up front with Thomas, Landry, and Garcia, I wouldnt mind taking Thomas or Landry off their hands, would only have to give up maybe CLee and a draft pick
I like keeping Lee on this team. Him and Morrow is great depth for the 2...We need shooters in both units. Gotta keep the D honest.
I don’t think the Nets could take Landry away from the Kings. He’s real valuable to them.
CLEE...
Has taken a back seat here…At the end of last season , HE really started showing us what he has….Just like it takes a rookie to get comfortable with a new team and atmosphere it also does in for a traded player….CLEE is going to be like a Rip Hamilton this year..We need to keep him…The NETS may have the deepest team in the NBA next year…..
This years its all about speed and D
I would hope you would support who we are. Not, who we are not. Coach Norman Dale "Hoosiers"
Is Twill chopped liver?
Granted Morrow does different stuff but where exactly is Twill – the only guy on our roster with a triple double – going to play? Backup PG and Backup SF? They keep signing guys who will eat into his time.
Maybe they are going to trade him and Harris for someone. Harris has been awfully quiet the past few weeks.
what?
Yeah, we’re gonna trade TWill and Harris, our two best perimeter players, just bc we signed Anthony Morrow to an offer sheet GS could still amtch…. GIVE ME A BREAK!
Hello?
You get assets back in a trade. And we just signed Outlaw and drafted Djames. Supposedly we have interest in Derek Fisher. Ridnour is unsigned. We are in the market for a 4. All these things point to a trade and excluding Brook, the most tradeable assets we have are DH and Twill.
LOL
So what if we want Fisher? None of our beatwriters have mentioned him as a possible target, but even if we pursued him, it would be bc we are lookng for a BACK UP pg to play 2nd fiddle PG to Devin. That’s the words that have been used when our beatwriters mentioned the possibility of signing a PG: a BACK UP for Devin, not to replace him, and Fisher is so old it’s not even funny, do you really think we’d bring him to replace Devin or TWill or are you kidding me?
And what if we signed Outlaw and traded for JAMES? How does that make TWill expendable? TWill is one of our building blocks, which neither James nor Outlaw is. And I like DJ. but he’ll be a back up for us a very solid one, but not a guy who will make TWill expendable, we got him with a late 1st rounder, TWill is one of our latest lottery selections, has shown unbelievable potential and is one of our anchors going forward.
Also both James and Outlaw are combo forwards (3/4), TWill is a 1/2/3. Even with all those additions, both TWill and Devin will be the 2 perimeter players who will get the most PT, they are the only guys you can count on getting 30+ minutes a night. We brought Outlaw and Damion to replace guys like Hayes, Hassell and CDR (if we sign a PG it will be to replace KD), not cornerstons like Devin and Terrence.
All your speculation makes absolutely zero sense.
Seemingly GSW Will Have to Pay Tax to Keep Morrow
Monta Ellis $11,000,000
Andris Biedrins $9,000,000
Dan Gadzuric $7,248,325
Vladimir Radmanovic $6,883,800
Charlie Bell $4,447,792
Brandan Wright $3,398,072
Stephen Curry $2,913,840
C.J. Watson $1,250,261
Reggie Williams $762,195
Udoh $2,500,000
Lee $12,000,000
$61,404,285
Re: PF Trade...
Andray Blatche, Jason Thompson, Jordan Hill, Kevin Love, Brandon Bass
…?
They really seem to be looking for someone that Favors could surpass and take the starting job from. A player like Josh Smith wouldn’t work, unless we wanted to shift him to SF and overpay for Outlaw to come off the bench.
No way i'm touching Andray Blatche, horrible attitude
Jordan Hill is no more a starter right now than anybody else we have.
I'd even like Ersan Ilyasova...
The Turkish version of Yi.
Mainly because I’m a quarter Turkish and he looks EXACTLY like my grandfather.
I don't see how anyone can have enough evidence on him to warrant a big case against him
Really, is there anyone here that has followed Petro throughout his career extensively?
continue the collection of young athletic talent with upside
Three year deal at three per is reasonable
Say hi to our backup center
Johan Petro
"We’re the new Nets. We’re leaving the old behind and we’re in with the new. Hopefully LeBron is going to be a part of that."
-Coach Avery Johnson.
3 yr...$10 million
they cant be serious
"We’re the new Nets. We’re leaving the old behind and we’re in with the new. Hopefully LeBron is going to be a part of that."
-Coach Avery Johnson.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=saBzFAhCP8Y
"We’re the new Nets. We’re leaving the old behind and we’re in with the new. Hopefully LeBron is going to be a part of that."
-Coach Avery Johnson.
i guess your right
"We’re the new Nets. We’re leaving the old behind and we’re in with the new. Hopefully LeBron is going to be a part of that."
-Coach Avery Johnson.
Al_Iannazzone
Next two things for the Nets before Thorn leaves next week is a power forward and president/GM
And Back Up PG
T.Will is ok for spot duty, but we still need a pure PG as back-up
by Jack Handy Jr on Jul 10, 2010 11:04 AM EDT up reply actions
big trade for a pf next
thprn do ya thing
"We’re the new Nets. We’re leaving the old behind and we’re in with the new. Hopefully LeBron is going to be a part of that."
-Coach Avery Johnson.
DX on Petro
Overview: A young French center who has great natural physical tools, but doesn’t have the fundamentals or feel for the game to take advantage of them at this point. Tall, long, and extremely well built. Moves well for a center. Possesses decent vertical explosiveness. Relies on his athleticism to be effective at this point in his career. Has some unpolished offensive tools to work with, but does not know his limitations in the least bit. Shows decent touch around the rim on occasion. Shoots a very poor percentage from the field. Good shot blocker, with the potential to be great. Could improve immediately by cutting down on fouls. Lack of experience makes it hard for him to be consistent defensively. Possesses the tools to be a good defender. Pretty raw in all areas of the game. Needs to bring more intensity and effort to both games and practice to begin to get to where he needs to be. Has been known to mail it in at times. Lets his emotions get the better of him on occasion.
Offense: A very raw center who is still struggling to find himself on the offensive end. Gets about half of his touches in the post and from spot ups, with the other half coming from hustle plays. Not efficient in the least bit relative to his height. Displays a decent jumper for a player his size, but tends to fall in love with it. Will try and put the ball on the floor to score at times, but struggles badly doing so. Does most of his post damage on the left block where he can turn over his left shoulder and go to his right handed hook shot. Has gotten better in that regard, but is still working on his touch. Will use his athleticism effectively to grab some offensive rebounds and be the beneficiary of good passes from his teammates. Finishes at the rim at a decent rate, but not a good enough one for an athlete of his caliber. Needs to expect more from himself. Shoots a great percentage from the foul stripe. Doesn’t have a lot of polish outside of that. A poor passer who can be a bit of a black hole at times.
Defense: Has the size, length, athleticism and strength to be a good defender, but is very green on the defensive end. Will get fakes off his feet from time to time. Very foul prone. Decent rebounder. Needs experience and seasoning in practice, but may lack the natural feel to get all that much better at this point. Could become a very good shot blocker down the line. Needs to learn how to read offensive players better.
From DraftExpress.com http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Johan-Petro-45/#ixzz0tI7Ctxlf
http://www.draftexpress.com
I like the players the Nets are getting
I just feel like they are overpaying a little
+1
im thinking Nene would be a very nice fit next to brook..
"We’re the new Nets. We’re leaving the old behind and we’re in with the new. Hopefully LeBron is going to be a part of that."
-Coach Avery Johnson.
Yeah, I think that was our only miss this offseason
So far I like everything else we did. Why would we pay Scola more than T. Thomas?
I know people will disagree but Thomas is a much better asset.
But seriously who out ther was going to give outlaw anything close to 5 years 35 mil
I mean I like the pickup because we need a sf and outlaw can be a very good one but we over payed a little.
I also think Morrow would be a great fit and he would be a steal at 3 years 12 mil
He was arguably the best SF left
Other players can get 30 million, not out of the question he could have gotten 30 anywhere else
we need to trade Clee and some picks and cash for a starting 4!!!! He is the odd man out on this team.
and what starting 4 available is good enough to demand that asking price?
I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson
Maxiel, jerebko, jamison, landry, ak47, ……….. there are players out there teams would move for the right chips.
We cant start another season without a 4.
its been 7 years and i know for fact Avery loves his power forwards so someone is getting traded.
they can keep AJ
doesn’t he have like 2-3 years left on his contract?
I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson
What is people's deal with trading CLee
It doesn’t make sense. We need good depth at the two. CLee is a solid defender and is likely to get back on his game on the offensive end this year with the new pieces we’re bringing into spread the floor
I don’t get this concept of trading him. No PF is really worth trading him for. He’s undoubtedly good for this team’s chemistry.
Get it straight people.
lol good question
I don’t understand it.
I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson
agreed
we don’t need to lose CLee nor any of our core youngsters to get a stop-gap PF who makes Favors’ transition better… it’s not like if we’re looking for a big-time PF for the future… Favors is that guy, we just need a vet who can help him out and whjo is good enough to start while the kid develops…
Trade Twill before Lee
Lee’s solid the book is still out on TWtt. Stay off the twitter!!!!
I’ve been saying it and I’ll keep saying it get AK47!!
oh that's why he got more playing time right?
Lee’s a professional and a better defender.
Both staying would be great but we need to sure Anthony Morrow coming here and get a power forward if possible. You have to give something to get something.
They may have more success going the trade route.
well it might have been because T-will was a rookie
and C.Lee wasn’t.
I don’t even understand why we compare them, they’re totally different players who fill totally different roles.
I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson
Hassell is a "professional", too, what's your point?
Lee is not that much better of a defender. And he’s one dinmensional. He’s a streaky shooter, and a very poor ball handler, rebounder and passer. And he can ONLY play the 2. TWill can play any perimeter position, is a really special passer and rebounder for a wing, a TD waiting to happen every night. It’s not even close to being close.
But again, we don’t need to trade anybody.
On twitter all day, bad teamate Thorn threatened to send him to the D League if he didn't straighten up
….Lee is the better defender. Avery said TWill has to limit his turnovers and commit to playing defense. Lee has to work on his game as well.
TWill can play more than one position but he’s not solid at any in my opinion.
He’s too short to play small forward full time, not a legit point guard no matter how much he worked out with GP. I hope he works out playing off guard this year he has all the tools.
How is Lee one dimensional?
He is a streaky shooter, a decent passer in my eyes. He should work on his ball handling skills to create for others. TWill is 3 steps ahead in that skill.
Kyle Korver, Jason Kapono, Matt Barnes these players are one dimensional. Lee can get out in transition and with more shooting around him lanes will open up for him to attack the rim.
decent passer?
He is a subpar passer. CDR got equal numbers to his in that regard and he was accussed of being selfish. And I’m actually defending we should keep CLee. I’m just saying TWill is a far better player.
decent, subpar it's opinion
They had different roles CDR scored off of isolation slashes because he was reluctant to shoot, putting more pressure on Lee to hit outside shots. That’s a reason he didn’t get playing time.
I don’t want to trade either of them. If it meant getting a decent starting power forward why not trade TWill? He’s a bench player.
Great move if we can keep Morrow! He can score in bunches, great shooter (which we need) and is young. I am not feeling the Petro signing though. I think we should go after Scola now that we struck out with some of the big name pfs. He will be great in practices when he goes up against Favors. He will show the young kid how to play with TOUGHNESS and PASSION! Perfect for Favors. Lets call Houston on their bluff. I also wouldn’t mind re-signing Keyon Dooling. After seeing who is on the free agent market for pgs, I would try to sign him or Luke Ridnour to back up Devin.
LETS GO NETS!
TWill
I think if the Nets are planning on trading TWill they will be making a huge mistake down the road. I honestly believe he is gonna be an all-star in the coming years. Something about him makes me feel like he is gonna be a centerpiece for a franchise… but I guess its a little too early to make that assumption
does anybody think
Morrow can eventually be a Michael Redd or Ray Allen type player. His shooting % is insane especially from 3. Given the minutes does anybody think he can develop into that kind of player?
Wel......
GS just signed G Dorrell Wright
Spears from Yahoo’s twitter:
“Swingman Dorrell Wright to sign a three-year, $11 million guaranteed deal with Warriors, league source tells Yahoo! Sports.”
I would guess that mean that Morrow is headed our way
T-Will
is the only other Net that can create his own shot off of the dribble aside from Harris, and Lopez down in the post. Trading him is not only laughable, but it would be just plain dumb.
He will get plenty of minutes, and these shooters will get plenty of passes from him.
"No one stands on the top of the world. Not you, not me, not even gods. But the unbearable vacancy of the throne in the sky is over. From now on...I will be sitting on it."
James.
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by kv on Jul 11, 2010 4:08 AM EDT up reply actions
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