Prokhorov: "Goals Remain Intact"
by Net Income on Jul 8, 2010 9:42 PM EDT
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PrintNets owner Mikhail Prokhorov released a statement shortly after LeBron James announced his decision to join the Miami Heat.
"We have a vision of a championship team and need to invest wisely and for the long term," Prokhorov said. "Fortunately, we have more than one plan to reach success, and, as I have found in all areas of my business, that is key to achieving it. To Nets fans past, present and future, the goal of making the playoffs this season remains intact and we reiterate our commitment to winning a championship within five years."
Avery Johnson also remains positive. "But we swung for the fences," he said. "Right now we haven’t hit a home run. So what’s next best thing? That’s what we’re focusing on." Speaking of swinging for the fences, Dave D'Alessandro reports the Nets and Bobcats may get into a "bidding war" for Tyrus Thomas, with the first bid at around $7 million a year.
- Johnson 'not discouraged one bit' as team misses out on LeBron James, other free agents - Dave D'Alessandro - Star-Ledger
- With LeBron James gone to Miami, what will Nets do now? - Dave D'Alessandro - Nets Blast
- Balance of power in NBA shifts to Miami as James joins Wade, Bosh - Dave D'Alessandro - Star-Ledger
- LeBron James is big loser in free agency drama, and Nets are right there with him - Steve Politi - Star-Ledger
- Nets deal with free-agent freeze out - Fred Kerber - New York Post
- Nets lose another one - LeBron heading to Miami - Tom Canavan - AP
- N.B.A.’s Season of Suspense Ends as James Chooses Heat - Howard Beck - New York Times
- Metro Area Doesn't Get James; Nets Shut Out - Al Iannazzone - The Nets Insider
- James Picks Heat; Gilbert Buries LeBron - Al Iannazzone - In the 'Zzone
- With LeBron's move decided, powers of East take shape - Jeff Zillgitt & J. Michael Falgoust - USA Today
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No way, we still want to make the playoffs? Too bad we didn’t make any moves to actually help that come true… Still holding out hope for a trade for an Al Jefferson or something like that
by J-Kay on Jul 8, 2010 9:44 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
***Beasley to the T-wolves for a second Round Pick
The suddenly have lots of PF’s there. I personally woulda taken Beasley off thier hands for “free”. Maybe things will click for him around less ego(Wade)
The NETS are coming!
Newest goal for Proky
“Next year we plan to win… NBA lottery”
by yankeesnets on Jul 8, 2010 9:45 PM EDT reply actions 3 recs
Three of the Eastern Conferences's best players are all on one team now.
What’s the rest of the conference look like?
Is He Serious
I still think he is/will be a great owner but for the next 3-5 years the NBA is gonna be M.I.A.
At least he is optimistic. Proky get a damn Gm and David Lee in here!!!!
by power_njerz on Jul 8, 2010 9:48 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
and some scouts
I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson
okay lets regroup:
okay what the heck is happening with this team
Since the face been revealed the game got real
Ok
The Nets did everything they could to get Lebron and we failed, like 5 other teams. What do you want Prokhy to say, that we’re screwed and have no hope for light at the end of the tunnel. Does it hurt to not get Lebron? Yes. But the funny thing is, the same people who knew that Lebron wouldn’t come yesterday are now upset that he didn’t come. It was a longshot for Lebron to come from Day 1. Our future is still bright; instead of fighting for the title next year, we’re playing the development game just like OKC and Por. Relax everyone, relax.
by twill5 on Jul 8, 2010 9:48 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
i want him to not say we're going to invest wisely
while 1. chasing mediocre gms and 2. ALLOWING TRAVIS OUTLAW TO BE SIGNED.
I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson
by Gina on Jul 8, 2010 9:51 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Not digging the Outlaw move?
But, but, but, the five year plan… Rebuilding… Small moves… All that!
Man, I told you guys last night that “Proky” is just Russian for “Ratner.”
the outlaw move makes me want to punch a baby in the throatr
I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson
Shoulda signed Lee or Boozer...
Even without LeBron
Harris, CLee, Twill, DLee, Lopez gets the playoffs.
Junk like Outlaw or Thomas or Korver reminds me of the Ratner crap (Mercer, E-Williams, Bufford) the Nets brought in after letting K-Mart go.
But hey at least Outlaw is signed for five years. That means he gets to be part part of the 2015 NBA championship team!
WHAT? ARE YOU KIDDING ME? Travis Outlaw is WAY BETTER than Eric Williams.
by diehardNFFLbarnone on Jul 8, 2010 11:59 PM EDT up reply actions
He is a servicable starting SF that can turn into a good piece of the bench.
He will play hard for Avery.
The Nets could have done a lot worse.
by No Sleep Till Brooklyn on Jul 8, 2010 10:00 PM EDT up reply actions
we could have done better
he’s barely serviceable.
I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson
Brewer and Gomes are better
I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson
Josh Childress too
I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson
You are splitting hairs amongst that group.
No real difference either way. They are all the same guy.
by No Sleep Till Brooklyn on Jul 8, 2010 10:05 PM EDT up reply actions
um the first three at about a 48-50% clip
Outlaw peaked at 45%.
I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson
Burn!
Gomes just signed for 3/12
by No Sleep Till Brooklyn on Jul 8, 2010 10:15 PM EDT up reply actions
based on what?
I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson
No doubt Gina...
A 5 Year commitment at a overpid rate is the stuff that bad teams are made of.
Outlaw is a better offensive player than Gomes, Brewer, Barnes or Childress. All of the above are good tough minded team oriented bench guys who play D. Barnes can shoot some. So I like all of them.
Outlaw is better on O though, particularly from the perimeter, which is what the Nets needed. The percentage is decieving because he is a chucker to a degree.
From a FA point of view for the SF position at this time – likely the best they can do. But they should have just rimmed it down a bit. This guy is here for a long long time and overpiad a bit. I hope it won"t negatively affect getting really good players.
the money doesn't bother me
as much as the years.
I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson
I want him to say he is selling the team
to people committed to keeping the team in New Jersey and that actually care about basketball – not a real estate scam in Brooklyn.
New Jersey is a losing local for an NBA franchise.
Your blind if you cannot see that.
by No Sleep Till Brooklyn on Jul 8, 2010 11:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Glad to hear this
but so sad right now.
by corky_romano4life on Jul 8, 2010 9:49 PM EDT reply actions
save the rest of the cap room for 2020!!!
For another Epic Free Agency Failure.
that’ll be the next chance anyone else has to win in the NBA
Harris
Lee/TWill
Outlaw/James
Scola/Favors
Lopez
That team would be in the fight for a playoff birth
why not?
If we could manage to nab Scola, who is a more natural fit next to Lopez, we will be competitive every night. Avery Johnson will coach the hell out of this team, so the young guys will give us a nice second unit. Outlaw is a solid player (overpaid about 10 million tho – we can take the hit with our massive cap space), people need to relax and be patient with our rebuilding
This Makes me feel better -_-
I dont know what to do or think. We had our sights set so what can proky possibly do to bring us happiness. Thorn’s let us down. Avery seems to be a bust by repeating the same facts about Devin and Brook. Proky’s tryna slick talk us. Man show us some talent !!!
Its NETS or NOTHING
by Montize Thomas Goode on Jul 8, 2010 9:50 PM EDT reply actions
need to invest wisely
so we turn around and overpay bench warmers like outlaw.
I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson
+1000000000000000000000000000
World Series attitude, champagne bottle life, nothing every changes so tonight is like tomorrow night.
we struck out because we didn’t overpay and now we are overpaying because we struck out?
by ddyyzz on Jul 8, 2010 9:51 PM EDT up reply actions 6 recs
lol pretty much
I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson
Bold statement.
What is this backup plan he is talking about? Sign Lee and trade for CP3? Because that’s like one of the few thing they can do to even be a playoff team and a winner in 5 years.
World Series attitude, champagne bottle life, nothing every changes so tonight is like tomorrow night.
The east just go more top heavy.
And the big move we made? is having a real head coach. That changes everything compared to last year.
Best FA signing for the Nets now
is a GM.
Get it done Proky.
by No Sleep Till Brooklyn on Jul 8, 2010 9:50 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
and we've been chasing
the most mediocre available
I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson
but Thorn is apparently unimpressed with him
but impressed with Bowers and Dumar???
I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson
This time next week Thorn will be gone.
by No Sleep Till Brooklyn on Jul 8, 2010 9:58 PM EDT up reply actions
but he's being allowed to chose his successor
I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson
He is recommending a successor I believe.
After this debacle, hopefully Proky says thanks but no thanks.
by No Sleep Till Brooklyn on Jul 8, 2010 10:06 PM EDT up reply actions
God willing
but if not Thorn who else has knowledge about NBA gms on their staff? most of his staff seemed to be business people not NBA people. it seemed like he was leaning on Thorn for most basketball decisions.
I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson
thorns trolling
I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson
As a Blazers fan
Get Pritchard. In KP we trust.
Short but to the point.
I still have faith in this guy. With this team’s current setup, there is simply no chance we will make the playoffs. And is that what we really want right now anyway? I said it back in early June; I would rather this team tank for another year and land one more lottery pick. At this point, see who’s available in free agency next year and make our moves to be title contenders then. Adding a bunch of scrubs for overpaid contracts will not do it. Building a core of youth with top lottery picks in time for the move to Brooklyn is our best move, especially with so many heads being moved in the NBA.
"We aim above the mark to hit the mark." -- Ralph Waldo Emerson
I would rather them tank
but trying to sign Boozer and overpaying outlaw and guys like Tyrus Thomas makes it sound more like they’re going to send us back to being a 40 win mid lottery team.
I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson
I can’t disagree with that sentiment. The last thing I want is for us to be stuck in limbo like we have been throughout the mid 2000’s with a team that wasn’t good enough to get past the second round of the playoffs, but wasn’t bad enough to get an actually decent lottery pick. Our best bet is to follow the trend of a team like the Thunder, which took several years of playing awful before they built up a team that could give the NBA Champion Lakers a run for their money. They are bursting at the seams with young talent, all hand picked from the draft. Landing a super team like Miami is a dream, not the norm. I’m betting we either make a drastic move for Paul, or we tank.
"We aim above the mark to hit the mark." -- Ralph Waldo Emerson
yeah I agree thats our best move
but every report makes it seem pretty obvious it’s not their plan. They tried to sign Boozer, and they’re trying to sign guys like Korver and Thomas/Scola now.
I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson
And they apparently intend on spending
22 million of the 32 million in cap space.
I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson
After Favors and James sign
Nexts should have about 12 million more to spend.
Sounds like two more players.
by No Sleep Till Brooklyn on Jul 8, 2010 9:59 PM EDT up reply actions
He tried to sign LeBron,
but he failed. Just don’t give out bad contracts to people like Outlaw anymore OK?
"I want to win now, not 3 years from now. That's my stance." - Kevin Burkhardt
Did he?
or did he just do what he said he would do and let the basketball people make the decisions. Dont blame him for that.
by Duo on Jul 8, 2010 9:52 PM EDT up reply actions
except we have no gm
and according to Net Income a few weeks ago our top scouts contracts all expired…so who exactly are these basketball people that are making the decisions?
I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson
Folks...don't forget all those draft picks are assets for trades. I don't think the Nets are done
by MJa on Jul 8, 2010 9:52 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
yep we'll trade for Danny Granger and Jefferson
and officially be the most nightmarish team imaginable
I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson
don't say that Gina
Thprn might hear you and do it
I would hope you would support who we are. Not, who we are not. Coach Norman Dale "Hoosiers"
by dmitchell624 on Jul 8, 2010 10:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Thorn*
I would hope you would support who we are. Not, who we are not. Coach Norman Dale "Hoosiers"
by dmitchell624 on Jul 8, 2010 10:12 PM EDT up reply actions
could be
I would hope you would support who we are. Not, who we are not. Coach Norman Dale "Hoosiers"
by dmitchell624 on Jul 8, 2010 10:23 PM EDT up reply actions
At least Outlaw can hit a jumper guard multiple positions and get out on the brak
We did not overpay for a one dimensional guy like Korver
by Atronic on Jul 8, 2010 9:52 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Just go out and prove it Prok
We’re tired of hearing talk.
1) Get us a solid GM
2) Get us a legit PF
3) Spend wisely by not overspending on clowns like Tyrus Thomas
doesn’t matter that we didn’t get lebron, bosh, wade, boozer, or any of those other FAs. The Nets are better today than they were a season ago, and I’m still excited about our future. Nets fans are some of the most resilient fans out there so lets keep our heads up guys.
Besides, I think its kind of cool that we don’t need a “savior” to bring our franchise back. We’re going to do it piece by piece…which is the way I would have preferred to have done it
by calvinbw on Jul 8, 2010 9:53 PM EDT reply actions 2 recs
We don't need Lebron
I just dont wanna Suck anymore. And quite frankly We have no place else to go but up.
Go Nets!!!
No it was not....
We are still competing for NY Fans…..
It was a great idea.
At least it was funny. And the knicks will still be bad next year. You think stoudemire is that big an upgrade from Lee? We can steal fans.
by Duo on Jul 8, 2010 9:57 PM EDT up reply actions
That was a great idea
The billboard didn’t automatically mean they were getting LeBron
"I want to win now, not 3 years from now. That's my stance." - Kevin Burkhardt
I still think we will be a good team I still believe in proky I love the nets start five harris Williams outlaw favors lopez
by daddyray80 on Jul 8, 2010 9:55 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
That sucks.
World Series attitude, champagne bottle life, nothing every changes so tonight is like tomorrow night.
Ok here r my questions
1- How is this a playoff team right now?
2 – What are our other plans, now that a 20-10 stud is gone in Lee
3 – Why even watch the NBA anymore with 2 good teams in the East?
by corky_romano4life on Jul 8, 2010 9:57 PM EDT reply actions
Uhm
1. It’s not.
2. I’d love to know. I’d love to see how Proky thinks in a few months the nets can be a playoff team.
3. Well for me it’s to watch the damn Celtics fail miserably.
World Series attitude, champagne bottle life, nothing every changes so tonight is like tomorrow night.
David Lee a Stud???
ONE 20-10 Season isnt worth 80 million. Stop with all the D-Lee stuff. He has gotten better but he is a jump shooter now not a post guy. He would have been nice. But not an 80 million dollar guy.
The NETS are coming!
C'Mon.....
I’m glad that we are still the NJ NETS and not the NJ LEBRONS……
by NetFan48 on Jul 8, 2010 9:57 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
where is that lupo guy ??
DID HE NOT PROMISE lebron on the nets
lol…. thank God i never believed him
by blazin pp face on Jul 8, 2010 9:58 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Proky image got shot down
in one week……..wat he spent for months building………he lost in 7 days…..soo sad
ohh well…
Fire Thorn
Fire Kiki
Fire Yi
Fire Lebron
Fire Wade
Fire Bosh
Fire Amare
he got his 100 mill… i don’t think he cares. he got his guaranteed money that no one else would offer him. I bet the Knicks regret signing him
this all he cared about was the money
I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson
the secret weapon
I would hope you would support who we are. Not, who we are not. Coach Norman Dale "Hoosiers"
by dmitchell624 on Jul 8, 2010 10:15 PM EDT up reply actions
Lots of crazy talk
As Ian Thomsen wrote this week, everything about the Nets is “under construction” from the arena to ownership to GM, coach, etc.
Good luck selling that.
Prokhy laid it out perfectly
His pitch was amazing and he really did set the blueprint. It’s not his fault that LeBron had his own agenda to follow. Ultimately Prokhy’s not the one who makes the decision. He did his job to eprfection.
by warstory on Jul 8, 2010 10:01 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Hire Kevin Paitchard as GM
KP will put together a WINNER.
by spencerbutte on Jul 8, 2010 10:01 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
LeBron Legacy... Gone
Welcome to D Wades shadow
by bettacalltyrone on Jul 8, 2010 10:01 PM EDT reply actions
YES!
Can’t wait to compete with the Pistons for “Most Overpaid Mediocre Team in the League”!!!!
A CAST OF NOTHING BUT ROLE PLAYERS DOES NOT EQUAL A CHAMPIONSHIP!
by JohnFromLongIsland on Jul 8, 2010 10:02 PM EDT reply actions
Take it easy
We’re not there yet. If they give Tyrus Thomas 5 years, $50 mill, then you can say that.
David Lee is going to the warriors...
announcement on it’s way.
we WILL overpay Thomas.
Thomas/Outlaw = Gordon/Villanueva
Only our new signing will have 4 eyebrows between the 2 of them. So at least we win something.
by JohnFromLongIsland on Jul 8, 2010 10:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Tyrus Thomas is NOT a role player.
by diehardNFFLbarnone on Jul 8, 2010 10:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Basketball in russia
they must not get the nba in russia. they watch re-runs of hoosiers. so obviously proky knows what wins
In Lebron's defense,
If the Nets or Bulls have signed Amare to the max I think he would have chosen either team instead of the Heat.
i don't think so..
i believe he has made his choice from the start
ATTENTION
Prokhorov has changed his statementto include: “we will spend our money wisely except for Outlaw, that signing was strictly because he has a really cool name now back to the plan”
Since the face been revealed the game got real
by BL3ACH on Jul 8, 2010 10:04 PM EDT reply actions 3 recs
HAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHA
HAHAHA
Holds sides
HAHAHA
by Anthony Perez on Jul 8, 2010 10:10 PM EDT up reply actions
This was planned
This was planned long ago. They wanted to play together. They dragged all these teams over the years giving false promises. We are in a better shape than for instance Knicks. I’m angry at these players than at Proky. He did what he could now let’s see what’s going to happen in the future.
by NDTony on Jul 8, 2010 10:04 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
+10000000000
EXACTLY!!!
These dudes sat in that green room in 2003 and probably started setting this up. Not thinking that Wade would actually get the title first.
The PLANNED this all. Come on people. They were trying to make a movie out of it…lol.
Brilliant plan tho. Set off a bidding war that would force in conference Teams to weaken themselves by shedding space and making irrational signings in order to lure thier services only in the end to choose EACHOTHER.
Only Team that got a bit stronger was Chicago at first glance but now they have no 2 gaurd getting rid of Heinrich for nothing to clear space and not re-signing Gordon with eyes on Wade.
Cleveland loses “QUEEN” James and gets NOTHING in return. He could have at least got Wes to broker some sort of sign and trade. Left Cleveland with nothing with a bunch of “pieces” that were all in effort to build around HIM.
So only blame goes to all of us for dreaming and hoping and begging for their services.
They could have just stated that from the jump instead of trying to make people jump through hoops. But They are still kids and were just havin a lil fun. Boozer, Amare and Lee were all smoke screens. Lebron wanted BOSH! And Bosh wanted to be with Wade. And Wade wanted Lebron. (Wow did they ever make a sequel to that movie threesome? There is your movie right there fellas) Besides none of the other guys were in that 2003 draft so they weren’t allowed in the clubhouse. I can see them going after Luke ridnour who was in that class as was Kyle Korver.
Funny Net fact
2003 Nets pick at # 22 Zoran Planinić (The heir aparent to back up Kidd and Take over the team?
- pick you ask TRAVIS OUTLAW- Portland lol
Too Funny
The NETS are coming!
no you didn't hear??
contract talks with brian scalbrine have heated up
Since the face been revealed the game got real
Why isn't Thorn on the phone..
with Pat Riley offering a future 2nd round pick for Michael Beasley?
He’s better than Tyrus Thomas and he’s cheaper!
by BubbaMcBubba on Jul 8, 2010 10:06 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
NO HE'S NOT
beasley isn’t better than Yi at this point.
I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson
rec'd...
if we’re gonna bring a head case with high potential on board, we might as well not overpay…. or we could’ve just kept SWat.
by JohnFromLongIsland on Jul 8, 2010 10:07 PM EDT up reply actions
thomas has actually been good most of the time he's on the court
and as far as we know not a drug addict.
I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson
You'd rather..
Thorn sign Stromile Swift Jr. to a long term deal at 6-7 mil per year,
than a kid who, despite admittedly having struggled with depression and substance abuse
still has all-star potential, and is only guaranteed 4.9 mil through this coming season?
Yikes…
by BubbaMcBubba on Jul 8, 2010 10:20 PM EDT up reply actions
um compare their numbers
Beasley hasn’t been any better than Yi. And he’s struggled with depression because he’s a drug addict, and still is, there’s a reason the heat literally haven’t been able to give him away. He isn’t someone you should touch under any circumstances.
And Thomas has actually been good, much better than swift ever was.
I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson
not with 5 years on the contract
I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson
Cap space isn't an issue.
Really.
by No Sleep Till Brooklyn on Jul 8, 2010 11:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Who are we not going to be able to sign in the next three years?
Players like LBJ, Wade, etc, become FA’s once in a decade, maybe two.
by No Sleep Till Brooklyn on Jul 8, 2010 11:13 PM EDT up reply actions
we can still make trades
or idk, signing David Lee might have been nice.
I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson
I liked Lee, so you got me there
But we still have the cap space to make a in season trade.
And by the sounds of it, will keep it that way.
by No Sleep Till Brooklyn on Jul 8, 2010 11:17 PM EDT up reply actions
?
a report from the original outlaw thread said they planned on using 22 million of the 32 million in cap space. And Thomas, who they’re apparently targeting now, will probably get similar money to outlaw.
I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson
They are leaving 10 mil in cap space.
That means, you can trade a Devin Harris and picks straight up for a guy making 16-18 million.
by No Sleep Till Brooklyn on Jul 8, 2010 11:20 PM EDT up reply actions
but then we'd have no point guard?
I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson
I mean I understand what you're saying
but unless they sign Luke Ridnour it seems entirely unrealistic.
I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson
true but the issue is
5/35 on a bench guy?
by jasperjarrod on Jul 8, 2010 11:09 PM EDT up reply actions
It's slightly above MLE, for a guy that will initially start.
by No Sleep Till Brooklyn on Jul 8, 2010 11:13 PM EDT up reply actions
Slightly?
I don’t think he’s worth it. He is not a starter.
by jasperjarrod on Jul 8, 2010 11:16 PM EDT up reply actions
You are absolutely kidding yourself if you do not think Outlaw is going to be the starter.
I believe Avery even said as much already.
by No Sleep Till Brooklyn on Jul 8, 2010 11:18 PM EDT up reply actions
I think he's saying he shouldn't be
I mean Yi was a starter for us too, but y’know.
I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson
Outlaw has shown to at least be able to play both ways.
Yi could never play defense in the NBA.
by No Sleep Till Brooklyn on Jul 8, 2010 11:21 PM EDT up reply actions
I Agree
at this point we dont have anything and theat are desperate to move him. he may be a headcase butt he has talent.And if im not mistaken only one year left on contract so we’re not locked in long term. plus with coach avery on board i am confident that whoever is on this team will play defenseor face the wrath of the pocket general…
by bettacalltyrone on Jul 8, 2010 11:24 PM EDT up reply actions
What is so incredibly un-realistic about his goal of us making the playoffs this season?
Let’s have a look at some of the teams in the East right now…
Cleveland sans LeBron
Toronto sans Chris Bosh
New York with Stoudemire but no LeBron and no David Lee… oh, and no PG or C either
Milwaukee… with CDR and Corey Maggette
Indiana with Granger and…. well, Granger.
Philadelphia with the great Evan Turner
Popeye Jones - scaring the children of New Jersey since 2010.
'The Crossover' - a Nets and Knicks podcast. http://phobos.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewPodcast?id=268817312
because with our highly mediocre team...
we’ll be getting swept by either the heat, celtics, or magic year after year after year after year after year after year.
by JohnFromLongIsland on Jul 8, 2010 10:08 PM EDT up reply actions
Cuz
Were gonna have the same roster the next 5 years
by Kevin Growney on Jul 8, 2010 10:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Well we do have
our 12 win talent to push us into the 8th spot… Maybe we can get in with 25 wins this year?
Oh yea.. we got Outlaw..26 wins
I WILL SAY THIS
This offseason messed with everyones minds…You dont need 2 MVP caliber players to win. You need good players who know how to step up and 1 franchise caliber player…Dont get caught up with this nonsense. Seems that after this offseason people have blurred the differences between championship team and lotto team. Were not gonna make the playoffs this year, but who knows what the next offseason or even this one will bring…Hang in there
i would hang in there
if not for travis outlaw
I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson
outlaw is a bummer
I would hope you would support who we are. Not, who we are not. Coach Norman Dale "Hoosiers"
by dmitchell624 on Jul 8, 2010 10:08 PM EDT up reply actions
Why?
hes a decent player…we didnt sign him and say he was gonna be our lebron..we just signed him to play some basketball and be effective
by Kevin Growney on Jul 8, 2010 10:11 PM EDT up reply actions
because if we were going to overpay
it would make about 10x more sense to overpay for David Lee. Who actually plays a position of need and will be much more impactful. I don’t really think Outlaw is much of an upgrade over a James/T-will combo.
I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson
I will put money
that lee will not put up the stats he did with NY…In D’antonis run and gun no defense system
by Kevin Growney on Jul 8, 2010 10:15 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah he's not a 20-10 guy I agree i've been saying that all summer
but he’s a 12-10 guy in his sleep in any system. and has been one of the most efficient players in the league long before D’antoni.
I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson
Why
Would u give max money to a 12-10 guy? that could handcuff us for 5 years
by Kevin Growney on Jul 8, 2010 10:18 PM EDT up reply actions
because his max isn't max money, he's coming off a rookie contracts
it’s barely more than what we gave Outlaw per year. And will likely be less than what we give Outlaw+Tyrus Thomas.
I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson
I would
Have gone after Boozer..Not lee. any PF is gonna experience a career year playing next to brook who is a great center. so why not get one for way cheaper?
by Kevin Growney on Jul 8, 2010 10:22 PM EDT up reply actions
huh
boozer wasn’t way cheaper than lee. And why would you rather pay for a guy who can’t stay healthy?
I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson
Because
I think Boozer is a better all around player…I think Lee is more of a product of system and Stats
by Kevin Growney on Jul 8, 2010 10:26 PM EDT up reply actions
what system was he a product of when he was
playing under isiah thomas?
I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson
exactly Gina
I would hope you would support who we are. Not, who we are not. Coach Norman Dale "Hoosiers"
by dmitchell624 on Jul 8, 2010 10:28 PM EDT up reply actions
Great
U guys are right we suck, im not posting here anymore, no one wants to stick up for their OWN team! Yea it sucks we didnt get a max guy, get over it move on
by Kevin Growney on Jul 8, 2010 10:32 PM EDT up reply actions
um what
what does David lee have to do with a max guy?
I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson
Neither fit
We need a defensive bruiser next to Lopez, like an Oakley or a Dale Davis, not DLee or Boozer. Lopez scores enough, so we don’t need a massive amount of points from our PF. Our desperation makes Lee or Boozer seem like saviors at the PF position, but our frontline defense would be terrible. Brook also likes to step out for that jumper, which is what Lee is also about – too many jumpshots would be taken by our bigs. If Favors can develop into a gritty defender and rebounder, he will be the perfect complement to Lopez
by smp369 on Jul 9, 2010 3:40 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
David Lee plays Center
That is not a position of need for the Nets
Outlaw is a big upgrade over an James. TWill is being groomed for the backcourt.
Gina, you are very offbase in your assessment of Outlaw
Please Prokhorov never again listen to the fools that told you it was a good idea to retain Rod Thorn
David Lee plays pf
he was only a center in D’antoni’s offense.
I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson
by Gina on Jul 8, 2010 11:54 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
He plays PF as well as Yi
He plays Center because that is his best position and his true position. All of his offensive advantages last season was because he was playing Center on a putrid team. Against PF’s he wouldn’t be able to put up the same numbers.
Please Prokhorov never again listen to the fools that told you it was a good idea to retain Rod Thorn
I know he wouldn't have put up he same numbers
i’ve been saying it the entire summer. But he was just as efficient playing pf, if not more efficient.
I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson
Yes, he was efficient as a role player
It would be one thing if Lee was going to be paid like the roll player he really is.
Please Prokhorov never again listen to the fools that told you it was a good idea to retain Rod Thorn
Again...
Lee was a double-double guy BEFORE being moved to center. The fact that he can play both positions when trying to develop Favors is a good thing.
His per 36 minutes numbers are virtually identical at both positions (minus scoring where he was the only inside option on D’Antoni’s team) and comparing him to Yikes is simply comical.
http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/l/leeda02.html
http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/j/jianlyi01.html
Unless you support the signing of no one, there is no way that not getting Lee or Boozer makes more sense than signing Outlaw (Bo would be more valuable to this team) and Thomas/Kurver and the rest of the “Plan C” garbage out there. Epic Fail for Proky!!!
"Proky is NBA dumb!"
He is a R-O-L-E P-L-A-Y-E-R
I am aware of what the stats are and they are being misused. Per 36 is an awful statistic.
He is also a horrible PF and contributes nothing positive at the position.
Please Prokhorov never again listen to the fools that told you it was a good idea to retain Rod Thorn
nothing positive?
once again he was more efficient at pf than he was at center and still averaging a double double. And we’re going to end up spending the same amount on Outlaw and Thomas that we would have spent on Lee.
I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson
by Gina on Jul 9, 2010 7:28 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Word!
I’m not even a Lee fan but the numbers say he is more than a “R-O-L-E-P-L-A-Y-E-R”
Not to mention that he’s already a name in these parts and would have added to the Knicks rivalry while further weakening their roster. But, yeah, who knows, maybe that Outlaw/Thomas combo will end up doing that too…
(btw Gina, “roleplayers” like Outlaw/Thomas will likely cost more than $76M over 5 yrs)
"Proky is NBA dumb!"
A name, who cares?
He is an overrated role player with inflated stats on a putrid team in a big media market.
Please Prokhorov never again listen to the fools that told you it was a good idea to retain Rod Thorn
Yes, nothing positive at PF
Stats tell you nothing about the type of player David Lee is, but they sure got him paid nicely.
There is no reason to besmirch Outlaw by lumping him in with that waste of a player Tyrus Thomas.
Please Prokhorov never again listen to the fools that told you it was a good idea to retain Rod Thorn
Your last Outlaw/Thomas line is funny!
To agree to disagree one final time,,, of the two, I actually look more forward to Thomas!
We’ll see…
"Proky is NBA dumb!"
agreed about Thomas
thomas has been a much better player on court.
I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson
Kevin you have to give me an example
Over the last 30 years I can only think of Detroit and the Rockets… It’s rare winning the title witout at least 2..
Lakers??
Gasol is a great player…but i dont think i phrased my comment right…u dont need 2 guys like lebron and bosh, or lebron and wade etc. Gasol is great but not on the level of a lebron,wade,Kobe,durant
by Kevin Growney on Jul 8, 2010 10:20 PM EDT up reply actions
ok seriously
after this statement this is the only scenario in which net fans can actually be ok next year.
Sign Lee
Trade harris and some picks for CP3.
Starting five is
CP3
Lee
Outlaw
Lee
Lopez.
We would be the #2 seed in playoffs.
I mean maybe I am wrong but unless we want a 11-71 team…
i'll take 11-71
perry jones here we come!
I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson
AS LONG AS WE CAN STILL BEAET THE KNICKS ITS ALL GOOD
by logik155 on Jul 8, 2010 10:08 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
this is the only thing we have left... to beat the knicks.
and i’m not being sarcastic, it’s our only hope…
by JohnFromLongIsland on Jul 8, 2010 10:09 PM EDT up reply actions
This Is the BEST Part of ALL this.
We can still be a better team then the KNICKS.
If the Knicks got Lebron, that would have been MY TRUE NIGHTMARE.
Proky Predicted This was Possible.
How did you guys expect Proky and Jay-Z to convince him NOT to join the NBA2K11 Team?
I would say that once CP3 gets traded elsewhere
Every player he named in the supposed “conference call leak” will be gone.
Problem is that Thorn may chicken out, because he wouldn't be around at time that Houston might match offer.
That is just not right to put this in the hands of Thorn.
Trading WHO/WHAT to get CP3???
No valuable draft picks or Quality players. What Gallo, Douglas, Walker and the rest of the picks you own through 2015?
Yeah that would work.
The NETS are coming!
its okay we got derrick favors who is the next chris bosh, damion james who will outplay lebron james, and twill who will dunk of wade. AND we got lopez and harris over chalmers and joel anthony
Give me whatever you are on.
World Series attitude, champagne bottle life, nothing every changes so tonight is like tomorrow night.
lol lee signed instantly
well there goes that idea. we r done. I would love to here prokys ideas
Man, I like this kid...he gets it.
<blockquote D_Favors
Lebron to Miami all i can say is that he let alot of people down half a minute ago via web
by No Sleep Till Brooklyn on Jul 8, 2010 10:13 PM EDT reply actions
Screwed that up.
D_Favors
Lebron to Miami all i can say is that he let alot of people down half a minute ago via web
by No Sleep Till Brooklyn on Jul 8, 2010 10:14 PM EDT up reply actions
good man that D.Favors
I’ll be rooting for D.Favors to reach his potential.
Has anyone thought it was strange that Thorn is doing this with 8 days left as a Net and without any contract?
Wonder if Rod will be with Warriors next year?
Proky should have had someone supervising Rod.
Proky said Boozer or Lee would be a Net. He must be disappointed.
what about the whole russian spies thing???
you don’t think he did
Since the face been revealed the game got real
How bad are the Cavs gonna be?
Whos their go to guy, Antwain Jamison?
LOL
GOMES SIGNED FOR 3/12
WE COULDN’T MAKE THIS NIGHTMARE UP
I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson
gomes sign 3/12
are u serious?
"We’re the new Nets. We’re leaving the old behind and we’re in with the new. Hopefully LeBron is going to be a part of that."
-Coach Avery Johnson.
yep with the clippers
WE’RE GETTING OUTSMARTED BY THE CLIPPERS
I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson
I've always defended Thorn
But the Outlaw contract is a bad move. Should have hired Pritchard and let him make the moves.
LOL
their starting lineup
Mo Williams
Anthony Parker
Jamario Moon
Anderson Varejao
Big Z
vs
Devin Harris
Courtney Lee
Terrence Williams
D.Favors
Brook Lopez
well...the good thing about this whole thing is that
we don’t have to see anderson verajao’s stupid giggly face on tv anymore
I'd almost consider taking Beasley off of Riley's hands, but there will be other offers.
Rod had his chance to get Beasley + picks for nothing.
I have never understood why the Nets let it be known Thorne was leaving./
Nets’ fans views notwithstanding, he is respected in the league and gave the team credibility and stability. As NI said, why would a top player come to a team in such a state of transition?…
He didn't even interview Boozer of DLee (living nearby).
Obviously Rod was pre-occupied.
Maybe Dave D. will find out the true story.
Scola’s not coming here, which means Tyrus Thomas and then Udonis Haslem are the best free agents left.
by diehardNFFLbarnone on Jul 8, 2010 10:20 PM EDT up reply actions
Told you bro
I put out my best theory and Lebron made the retarded decision. F’n sellout
by Anthony Perez on Jul 8, 2010 10:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Don't worry Kid you did good
Keep the faith and stay positive.
by Hollywoodnet on Jul 8, 2010 10:21 PM EDT up reply actions
if gomes and foye sign for less
than what we gave Outlaw. I quit.
I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson
yeah thats not right
"We’re the new Nets. We’re leaving the old behind and we’re in with the new. Hopefully LeBron is going to be a part of that."
-Coach Avery Johnson.
I like Outlaw
but can someone tell me…why we are comitting 5 yrs to him
"We’re the new Nets. We’re leaving the old behind and we’re in with the new. Hopefully LeBron is going to be a part of that."
-Coach Avery Johnson.
AND we fired KIKI
GET THORN OUTTA HERE!
"We’re the new Nets. We’re leaving the old behind and we’re in with the new. Hopefully LeBron is going to be a part of that."
-Coach Avery Johnson.
Outlaws 5 years hurt more than Bron not coming
by NetsYankee on Jul 8, 2010 10:20 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
5 years is fine
But 7 million per?
When Gomes got 4?
S.M.H.
by No Sleep Till Brooklyn on Jul 8, 2010 10:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah it was a stupid move.
Conspiracy theory: I can see Thorn trying to screw the Nets as a parting gift, but why would Prokorov ok this stupid deal.
because he trusts Thorn to make basketball decisions?
I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson
I don't care how many wins or if we make the playoffs
I just want a team that can beat the Knicks everytime we meet them…that should be our goal for this year