Nets Agree to Deal with Travis Outlaw, Tyrus Thomas Next?
by NetsDaily on Jul 8, 2010 11:33 AM EDT
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PrintThe Nets announced Thursday afternoon that they have agreed in principle to a contract with forward Travis Outlaw. The deal is reportedly worth $35 million over five years, fully guaranteed and provides Outlaw a flat $7 million a year.
The Nets reportedly chose Outlaw over Kyle Korver and Josh Howard and could also offer a contract to Tyrus Thomas as early as Thursday afternoon. The Bobcats would have seven days to match any Nets' offer. According to Al Iannazzone, "the Outlaw agreement could the first of multiple moves by the Nets today".
Outlaw played just 34 games for the Blazers and Clippers last season due to foot and groin injuries. He had averaged 13 points per game over the course of the previous two seasons, coming off the bench for Portland. The 6'9" Outlaw has played both small forward and power forward in his career, shooting 44.1% overall and 36.3% from deep.
"In our situation we needed a starting three and Travis had some really good years in Portland," Avery Johnson told Kerber. The Outlaw signing leaves the Nets with $25.4 million in cap space and gives them 11 players (two partially guaranteed) under contract. Chad Ford reports that the Nets intend to use all but $10 million of their original $32 million cap stash and may explore trades as well. He also suggests that the team is still choosing between Thomas or Luis Scola of the Rockets who is also a restricted free agent.
- Agent Bill Duffy: New Jersey Nets, Travis Outlaw agree to 5-year, $35M deal - ESPN New York
- Nets Get Outlaw - Al Iannazzone - In the 'Zzone
- With LeBron out of reach, Nets sign Travis Outlaw - Al Iannazzone - The Record
- Nets agree to five-year deal with Outlaw - Fred Kerber - New York Post Nets Blog
- Nets acquire Travis Outlaw - Dave D'Alessandro - Nets Blast
- Nets reach 5-year deal with Travis Outlaw - Tom Canavan - AP
- Nets bring in Outlaw, presumably give up on LeBron - Stefan Bondy - The InterNets
- The Nets' Plan B - Chad Ford - ESPN
- Nets agree to five-year, $35 million deal with Outlaw - David Aldridge - NBA.com
- NETS: Nets Agree in Principle with Free Agent Forward Outlaw - New Jersey Nets
- Nets Sign Poor Man’s LeBron - Aron Phillips - DIME
- BlazersEdge On Travis Outlaw - Sebastian Pruiti - Nets Are Scorching
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Well
We signed somebody.
pops air out of balloon
by eLonepb on Jul 8, 2010 11:33 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
enough $ left to sign LeBron and Scola...
Call it a day….brilliant job!!!!
by LBJOSH on Jul 8, 2010 2:41 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
New Nets Team.....
PG harris
SG Lee
SF King James
PF Luis Scola
C. Lopez
Bench
TWill
D. James
Favors
Outlaw
Uzoh
Shaq
by LBJOSH on Jul 8, 2010 2:52 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
can any of you Bridge Jumpers
Find a problem with that team…..what more can James want??
After party at Jay’s mansion in Scarsdale,CT….this whole event smells like a Jay-Z production
by LBJOSH on Jul 8, 2010 3:18 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I'm in the still-holding-out-hope club as well
there’s no denying it would be a great situation if Bron wants to go it alone and build his own legacy. people are afraid of admitting it because they don’t want to be accused of being “wrong” later. I’m not saying Bron is coming, but I know there’s a chance and I’m not kidding myself about the Nets just because I’m a fan. well, maybe a little, but I think we’re still a good spot for him.
Couldn’t TWill start at the 2 over Lee?
"Young men, I have no doubt that you're gonna do well today. But I have 1 favor to ask of you... SAVE JIMMY JOHNSON'S ASS FOR ME!" Lou Holtz
by TheRealSlimShady on Jul 8, 2010 8:56 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't hate it
He’s a guy who can create his own shot, he’s a capable one on one scorer. Something we sorely lack. Plus he can hit the three.
by muwu on Jul 8, 2010 11:34 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
grossly overpaid?
would love to hear your thinking because 5 mil a year….not really discussion for overpaid
by Hi imreallycool on Jul 8, 2010 11:35 AM EDT up reply actions
my bad, math isnt my strong point, still not grossly overpaid.
by Hi imreallycool on Jul 8, 2010 11:37 AM EDT up reply actions
johnschuhmann
Outlaw contract is flat. $7M every year. Nets still have $23.5M of cap space. 7 minutes ago via TweetDeck
by No Sleep Till Brooklyn on Jul 8, 2010 11:56 AM EDT up reply actions
johnschuhmann
Also, no team or player options on Outlaw deal. 3 minutes ago via TweetDeck
by No Sleep Till Brooklyn on Jul 8, 2010 12:00 PM EDT up reply actions
That's the market situation of this year's free agent crop
EVERYONE has gotten inflated contracts so far. Boozer, Frye, Darko, Blake, etc
This is too much money for this player for 5 years.
I know this is the “market” but I would not have doen this. He is OK and everything and it is a manageable salary overall I suppose. This guy is more of a specialist to me. Not a starter. These kinds of salaries are the ones you see teams trying to dump later and have a harder time because they are not of the 3.5 mill variety. This guy seems like a 4.5 mil type of guy for 3 years to me. I woud rather take a flyer on a cheaper unkown guy with upside- and maybe suck – which Outlawe does very little in preventing anyway. He’s OK. Jarvis Hayes replacement – but too long and for too much.
We've got 7 guys on our roster
We gotta fill it up somehow, and you aren’t gonna find a whole lot of other options
by muwu on Jul 8, 2010 11:48 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
That's not an excuse.
7 mill/year for a player who SHOULD be a 6th man.
by caseycheesecake on Jul 8, 2010 11:50 AM EDT up reply actions
that actually makes COMPLETE sense. he’s got a contract worth half of boozer’s and a third’s worth of amare… with their inflated salaries, it only makes sense that others will slightly inflate (relatiev to how far down the scale we’re sliding here).
i think he’s a great back up for Lebron, d.lee (possibly)
by Chakroot on Jul 8, 2010 11:52 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Love the LeBron reference......KEEP THE FAITH!
Outlaw is your starter at SF. He will be backed up by T. Will, who will also likely back up PG and SG.
D.James may work his way into mintes at the back-up 3 and 4 too. Ross with no O can’t play on this team which needs scoring.
So because everybody else is making retarded contracts,
its okay the Nets do too! YAAAY!
by caseycheesecake on Jul 8, 2010 12:01 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
You're not getting anyone then
Sure we could go for the worst record again by signing some d-leaguers
by muwu on Jul 8, 2010 12:04 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
complain because of inactivity.
complain because of activity.
do’nt demand satisfaction from the organization when you are hell-bent on being dissatisfied. its like being angry with the franchise will somehow justify you putting faith in the team in the first place.
Over at Sacramento,
we have tons of money to spend, we have a hole at the SG, and we don’t even make the league minimum team salary yet.
Some fans are crying cause we haven’t signed anybody. But seeing as how all these teams with huge money realize they wont all get Lebron, and they start throwing ridiculous money at these players, it seems that its better to wait than overpay. That only hurts your franchise.
by caseycheesecake on Jul 8, 2010 12:08 PM EDT up reply actions
I am just trying to understand why him for this much. I have backed the nets so far, I just am trying to figure out how he helps us with the amount of playing time he has had the last few years.
Since the face been revealed the game got real
The its better to NOT BE A PART of the "market".
Don’t you get that?
by caseycheesecake on Jul 8, 2010 12:51 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Sooo fill your team with undrafted guys and go on the chase for Harrison Barnes?
by muwu on Jul 8, 2010 1:12 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Do you not get how overpaying average players hurts your team?
It’s better just to save your money. Make trades for players instead of signing them outright. Take advantage of teams with high salaries at the trade deadline. Jeez…But whatever. Pay losers just because you can. I don’t care.
by caseycheesecake on Jul 8, 2010 1:36 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
or at least if we're going to overpay
why can’t we have over payed Lee? Now instead we’ll likely overpay two players for the same total cost and way less actual production.
I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson
by Gina on Jul 8, 2010 1:38 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
+1 to much money im not happy with this deal at all thorn talked how to not overspend
thats what he just did this time 35 milion on injury prone and will see that we cant get rid of him
Ive been saying outlaw for the longest time
everyone just laughed at me….
"We’re the new Nets. We’re leaving the old behind and we’re in with the new. Hopefully LeBron is going to be a part of that."
-Coach Avery Johnson.
Outlaw
Is he a 3 or 4. Oh well, this is a disaster. 35 mil for a guy like this and we missed Boozer by 5 mil.
he can play both
Michael Jordan is the Nicolas Batum of America
marty>babbitt
by thomasikehara on Jul 8, 2010 12:43 PM EDT up reply actions
he was originally just a 3
but in recent years has moved to the 4
Michael Jordan is the Nicolas Batum of America
marty>babbitt
by thomasikehara on Jul 8, 2010 1:07 PM EDT up reply actions
7 mil per may be a tad much
but we needed a starter.
now get scola for a similar price, please!
didn't he drop like 40 with us
one of the times he played us?
B+ IMO
The guy plays SF and PF, hits the 3, defends, and is young at 25. Not the big FA we were dreaming of, but it’s a step in the right direction. We had a big hole before this signing, and now it’s somewhat filled.
by Special_Delivery on Jul 8, 2010 11:36 AM EDT via mobile reply actions 1 recs
Don't forget he's also clutch
BRoy and Portland could have used him the playoffs this year as he was the other guy who could hit big shots at the end of games. Just has this goofy expressionless way about him that allows him to nail game-winners. His 3-point shooting is also vastly underrated and let’s not forget that he can actually put a quarter at the top of the back board. He can play the 3 and the 4 so D Harris, T Will, C Lee, Outlaw and Favors can all play together.
by hkphooey on Jul 8, 2010 11:41 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
no problem with the guy/ just the money and length
Since the face been revealed the game got real
by BL3ACH on Jul 8, 2010 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
More like preparation H
You don't cheer for the Mets. You drink for the Mets.
by Kevin H on Jul 8, 2010 1:14 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
Don't like this move.
He’s not worth anything close to that from what I’ve seen.
The Rim won't say ouch anymore
Please Prokhorov never again listen to the fools that told you it was a good idea to retain Rod Thorn
Offensive foul on the last one!
not "that" Jersey Shore...Point Pleasant, 10 refreshing miles north of Seaside.
by John at the Jersey Shore on Jul 8, 2010 11:56 AM EDT up reply actions
He’s much better than Yi and less injury prone.
by Special_Delivery on Jul 8, 2010 11:38 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
He is a better stretch 4, than a 3
He’ll definitely space the floor for Brook
Please Prokhorov never again listen to the fools that told you it was a good idea to retain Rod Thorn
by cpawfan on Jul 8, 2010 11:37 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Harris
Clee/Twill
Outlaw
DLee/Favors
Lopez
thats a playoff team
"We’re the new Nets. We’re leaving the old behind and we’re in with the new. Hopefully LeBron is going to be a part of that."
-Coach Avery Johnson.
im loving this line up
"We’re the new Nets. We’re leaving the old behind and we’re in with the new. Hopefully LeBron is going to be a part of that."
-Coach Avery Johnson.
I thought DLEee is a goner?
not "that" Jersey Shore...Point Pleasant, 10 refreshing miles north of Seaside.
by John at the Jersey Shore on Jul 8, 2010 11:56 AM EDT up reply actions
Looks like the blazers team.. lol
" I'm really excited to take the worst team in the league and turn it to be the best in the league." --Mikhail Prokhorov.
Which he won't since Terrence is already better than he is.
There is a reason this guy was beaten out for starter’s minutes by the likes of Ime Udoka and Nicholas Batum in Portland. He is an energy player off the bench at best.
Exactly. He's a role player.
And now he’s an extremely expensive, underproducing starter. Terrence Williams could start over this guy from Day 1 this year.
by caseycheesecake on Jul 8, 2010 12:10 PM EDT up reply actions
Outlaw is CLUTCH!!!!!!
tHERE WAS a point before his injury when outlaw carried the blazers….he would hit buzzer beaters all the time
"We’re the new Nets. We’re leaving the old behind and we’re in with the new. Hopefully LeBron is going to be a part of that."
-Coach Avery Johnson.
by Andy. on Jul 8, 2010 11:38 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Well I always wanted this guy. I just didn’t think it would be under these conditions. He will be our new Jarvis Hayes.
LETS GO NETS!
by JustinNJ on Jul 8, 2010 11:38 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
well now the people who complained about the Nets not doing anything can’t complain
by Julia Nets Fan on Jul 8, 2010 11:39 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Mr FOURTH QUARTER---CLUTCH!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R2Z4nxdjpnE
"We’re the new Nets. We’re leaving the old behind and we’re in with the new. Hopefully LeBron is going to be a part of that."
-Coach Avery Johnson.
by Andy. on Jul 8, 2010 11:40 AM EDT reply actions 2 recs
I love this signing ive been saying Outlaw for a long time
"We’re the new Nets. We’re leaving the old behind and we’re in with the new. Hopefully LeBron is going to be a part of that."
-Coach Avery Johnson.
Does this signing insure we are out on Lee???
just seems like a bit much for a player who hasn’t started more then 6 games in 3 years or didn’t play more then 34 games in the same amount of time.
Since the face been revealed the game got real
I like it
He fits in well with players we’ver got.
Always thought that Outlaw was underrated.
by kiemurphy on Jul 8, 2010 11:41 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
This is okay
Nothing more, nothing less.
Would like to get Scola.
July 1st in this b***h wuzzzzup
-Proky and Hova
Bill Simmons
Buch reports Travis Outlaw to Nets: 5 yr, $35M. Like him but that’s 20m too much. Mutant Russian Mark Cuban is on the board!
Clearly this was a move aimed at attracting Lebron James.
by No Sleep Till Brooklyn on Jul 8, 2010 11:41 AM EDT reply actions
lol yupp
lebron always wanted to play with outlaw…
by blazin pp face on Jul 8, 2010 11:43 AM EDT up reply actions
bobby simmons part 2
this is horrid signing! we just signed a bench player for $35million, would have rather paid that to Mike Miller!
i'm standing on my coffee table
and i’m gonna jump
dont try and stop me
by blazin pp face on Jul 8, 2010 11:43 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
I love this signing
He will be great with the Nets. 35 mil for 5 years is not bad.
by Top Whodi on Jul 8, 2010 11:43 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
its not bad at alll...people dont realize
he is 25 and hes going to be our starter
"We’re the new Nets. We’re leaving the old behind and we’re in with the new. Hopefully LeBron is going to be a part of that."
-Coach Avery Johnson.
by Andy. on Jul 8, 2010 11:44 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I dont like this deal.
It is too long and this guy is injury prone.
He will start on a this young team.
Harris, Clee, Outlaw, Favors, Lopez
Twill, DJames, ?, ?
by SIC One on Jul 8, 2010 11:43 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Let me use it in context
The Nets signed Travis Outlaw for 35 million?!?!? SMH.
by No Sleep Till Brooklyn on Jul 8, 2010 11:54 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Pretty much you agree with "this"
by No Sleep Till Brooklyn on Jul 8, 2010 11:48 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
+1
not "that" Jersey Shore...Point Pleasant, 10 refreshing miles north of Seaside.
by John at the Jersey Shore on Jul 8, 2010 3:10 PM EDT up reply actions
I am so pumped for the season!
: end sarcasm
by BEB on Jul 8, 2010 11:44 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Whipping out the AmEx for season tix
not
by 3ptChucker on Jul 8, 2010 12:13 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
This is just a beginning of a nightmare. Somebody please wake me the f up
by Drazen Petrovic on Jul 8, 2010 11:45 AM EDT via mobile reply actions 2 recs
not a fan of tyrus thomas
plus, starting him ahead of favors seems a bit redundant, does it not?
screw lebron
egotistic maniac
"We’re the new Nets. We’re leaving the old behind and we’re in with the new. Hopefully LeBron is going to be a part of that."
-Coach Avery Johnson.
by Andy. on Jul 8, 2010 11:46 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
If we get D. Lee and a shooter I will be content with these additions….let’s get moving Nets….
by Rp15x on Jul 8, 2010 11:47 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
Love this signing!
Guys that complain about this sidning dont watch basketball. Seriously…This turn is not old…Its clutch and a hard worker. He will thrive under Avery in the East. I cant wait for this season to start.
by NetsBall4Real on Jul 8, 2010 11:47 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
He is better than Jarvis Hayes though.
LETS GO NETS!
by JustinNJ on Jul 8, 2010 11:47 AM EDT via mobile reply actions 1 recs
36% from 3. If Lee regains his ‘08-’09 (40%) form, we will start 2 damn good shooters.
by ShawnG on Jul 8, 2010 11:47 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Are you guys kidding me what did you guys drink
this is a ok signing GIVE ME A BREAK THIS IS THE WORST SIGNING IVE EVER SEEN IN THE NBA
do you really want to waste money to go watch TRAVIS OUTLAW
"Avery Johnson: Erase to Replace"
Net Fans We still have a Chance LEBRON IS COMING!!!!
the point of rebuilding
is that you try to start over…….
we have a bunch of GREAT role players….. but eventually you need a superstar
by blazin pp face on Jul 8, 2010 11:50 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
He’s young, he’s long, he can shoot and he’s clutch. Not bad getting him in the prime of his career for 7M/yr.
by Air Force 1 on Jul 8, 2010 11:50 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
i agree
this signing is a joke
as big a joke as the nets entire franchise
you couldnt PAY ME to take season tickets
by michaelbot1 on Jul 8, 2010 12:29 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
he will
hes never been given a starting role and enough minutes on the court
"We’re the new Nets. We’re leaving the old behind and we’re in with the new. Hopefully LeBron is going to be a part of that."
-Coach Avery Johnson.
What about when he was on the Clippers?
by caseycheesecake on Jul 8, 2010 12:04 PM EDT up reply actions
being productive and being a clipper are mutually exclusive
Michael Jordan is the Nicolas Batum of America
marty>babbitt
by thomasikehara on Jul 8, 2010 12:45 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
LOL What? Elton Brand had his best season in 2005-2006, with the Clippers. The two ARE NOT mutually exclusive.
by diehardNFFLbarnone on Jul 8, 2010 3:30 PM EDT up reply actions
well
He’s wildly inconsistent and often gets lost/confused in defensive schemes. On the other hand, he’ll create his own shot, score late in games, and is a good locker room guy.
Bat88m
by RyanRTE on Jul 8, 2010 11:49 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Hello wins 13 & 14!!!
what a joke this past season and the draft, and this offseason has been.
but hey! our owner rides a jetski and has a fancy schmancy jet!!!
by Trenton on Jul 8, 2010 11:49 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
pull yourself together man! we aight!
by jrtallent on Jul 8, 2010 11:59 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
false
new owner, same players
same result
disappointment
by Trenton on Jul 8, 2010 12:01 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
new owner
new coach
new arena (2 new arenas if you can stop to think past what’s right in front of you)
new rookies
new FA’s
by Chakroot on Jul 8, 2010 12:06 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
SAME PLAYERS
SAME PLAYERS SAME PLAYERS SAME PLAYERS
SAME ME TURNING THE GAME OFF AT HALFTIME TO AVOID MORE TEARS
by Trenton on Jul 8, 2010 12:11 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Outlaw SUUUUUUCKS
This is AWFUL. A complete waste.
by A.S. on Jul 8, 2010 11:50 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
THE BLUEPRINT FOR GREATNESS
i better change my facebook profile picture quickkkk
by blazin pp face on Jul 8, 2010 11:51 AM EDT reply actions 3 recs
Fercryinoutloud!
Guys, enough with the sky is falling attitude. We’ve missed out on the big name guys. We all know that by now!! Take this for what it is: a very ‘meh’ signing, but one that’s hardly a bad one. 5 years, $35 mil for a decent scorer… fine.
Popeye Jones - scaring the children of New Jersey since 2010.
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by Rusty_b on Jul 8, 2010 11:51 AM EDT reply actions 6 recs
you don't win friends with salad
and you don’t win games with outlaw
by Trenton on Jul 8, 2010 11:52 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Who else would you have had us sign then?
We have to round out the roster somehow. I can guarantee that if we signed a lesser name to a smaller contract, people would have been saying “Oh great… he’s going to make SO much difference”.
This is a $7m per year signing. It’s not the end of the world!
Popeye Jones - scaring the children of New Jersey since 2010.
'The Crossover' - a Nets and Knicks podcast. http://phobos.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewPodcast?id=268817312
shouldnt have bet it all
on john wall and lebron
they should have been more proactive, not just sitting around dreaming and puttin up billboards
Newsflash
They weren’t. Does it suck? Absolutely. There’s no point crying about it now though.
This guy is the first of what I think will be a heap of signings of mid-low range F.A’s. Get used to it.
Popeye Jones - scaring the children of New Jersey since 2010.
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by Rusty_b on Jul 8, 2010 11:57 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
no way will i get used to it
net stripped NJ from everything, then fired a decent coach, then lost a heck of a lot of games, then lost out on the #1 and now missed out on all LEGIT free agents
and that whole time everyone told me to be patient, well guess what? nothing turned out the way people wanted it to and that’s unfortunate. next thing you’ll tell me to wait til next offseason.
give me a break
Well, the alternative is this...
Growing more bitter and twisted as the days roll on, and what’s that going to achieve?
I’m guessing as angry as you are, you’ll remain a Nets fan anyway right? So, this is something we have no control over therefore we may as well just suck it up.
Popeye Jones - scaring the children of New Jersey since 2010.
'The Crossover' - a Nets and Knicks podcast. http://phobos.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewPodcast?id=268817312
by Rusty_b on Jul 8, 2010 12:01 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
im not angry
it’s just after going through all that last season you would think the nets had a plan B, and they didn’t. They had A….and then D.
You can’t argue that.
The didn’t talk to Amare, lowballed Boozer and obviously said little to sway Lee, Johnson and some of the others.
by Trenton on Jul 8, 2010 12:03 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
you thought they lowballed Boozer? 15 mill a year as a first offer?
by kiemurphy on Jul 8, 2010 12:04 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
for a team that won 12 games last year
and lost out on Boozer to Chicago…yes they lowballed him considering the nets have not had a PF since 2004.
by Trenton on Jul 8, 2010 12:06 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
We're splitting hairs here I think
Our off season has STUNK! Now arguments there.
What I’m saying is that now we have to find a way of getting over it otherwise this season is going to be just as long as the last one.
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You don't win games with a CLUTCH shooter whoes hit big game winners?????
And he can hit the 3 at a great clip, create his own shot and has a wet J we desperately need? Plus is a long defender? Ok….
by adronaline on Jul 9, 2010 7:49 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
no Outlaw isn't a decent scorer
at all. He’s not worth this much money and it makes no sense to jump to this deal with so many rotation sf types available who are either better or will likely cost less.
I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson
by Gina on Jul 8, 2010 1:21 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
STARTER
im loving this signing
"We’re the new Nets. We’re leaving the old behind and we’re in with the new. Hopefully LeBron is going to be a part of that."
-Coach Avery Johnson.
Backup to Damion James, more likely.
by calling all toasters on Jul 8, 2010 2:18 PM EDT up reply actions
He is better than bobby simmons also. Simmons was making 10 to 11 million. Outlaw is better and younger for 7 million.
LETS GO NETS!
by JustinNJ on Jul 8, 2010 11:51 AM EDT via mobile reply actions 1 recs
Proky must have really screwed Thorn
for Thorn to leave the organization like this
by blazin pp face on Jul 8, 2010 11:52 AM EDT reply actions 2 recs
This is a good signing people and no it’s not overpaying for a player of his caliber.
by Mikee21 on Jul 8, 2010 11:53 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
um
you do realize amare is on the knicks, boozer and rose are in chicago, bosh and wade are in miami, garnett an pierce are in boston…..
what seed will a nets team from last year PLUS outlaw get
um…none
by Trenton on Jul 8, 2010 11:54 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
call me silly
But Avery Johnson is a step in the right direction.
by kiemurphy on Jul 8, 2010 11:56 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
he's the coach
he can’t score, defend, or rebound so its all for naught
by Trenton on Jul 8, 2010 11:57 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
true dat
But I like AJ and I thought Kiki was that bad of a coach. With a focus on defense as well as getting more from the talent that was at hand, it’s good step in right direction.
Not perfect, but if AJ was coach on team last year, I think we’d have had 15 more wins. Gets us up to 27. Now with a healthy (HOPEFULLY) harris and Outlaw and some contributions from the rookies, and more from Twill. That gets me up to 35 wins.
Steps in the right direction…
by kiemurphy on Jul 8, 2010 12:02 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
now we need
"We’re the new Nets. We’re leaving the old behind and we’re in with the new. Hopefully LeBron is going to be a part of that."
-Coach Avery Johnson.
by Andy. on Jul 8, 2010 11:53 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
This.
But please use picks with a shirt on. Thanks.
by No Sleep Till Brooklyn on Jul 8, 2010 11:55 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I hope that was a college photo
because what have the Knicks done while he’s been there that requires taking his shirt off?
by eopanther8 on Jul 8, 2010 11:58 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
they're selling
a five-year plan, and this is consistent with that.
by jrtallent on Jul 8, 2010 12:01 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Mike Miller, Korver, Barnes
all would be beter SFs in my opinion
why can’t proky vacation after the FA week? why can’t thorn retire after?
at least Avery will be a good post game interview
Matt Barnes is essentially Ron Artest without nearly the same level of talent and we don’t have a Pat Riley/Mike Brown type of coach that has dealt with those kinds of players before. He IS NOT a better fit for this team than Outlaw.
by diehardNFFLbarnone on Jul 8, 2010 3:36 PM EDT up reply actions
I am absolutely blown away by the enthusiasm on this board over this grossly overpaid signing. This is a disgrace and could be hardly considered as a “piece” to win a championship anytime soon. I would not even have this guy wash my toilet.
This is a major disappointment and damage control on the part of the Nets.
by Drazen Petrovic on Jul 8, 2010 11:55 AM EDT via mobile reply actions 1 recs
When it comes down to it..
We’re just supporting a sports team. I’m not going to let this ruin my life. Travis Outlaw is energetic, athletic and he can shoot. It’s not my 35 million dollars.
Go Nets!
not my $35 million either
Because I’m not paying tix to watch this sad product.
by 3ptChucker on Jul 8, 2010 12:34 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1naL1Zp2IG8
P.s. we have really upped the athleticism this offseason….Favors, James, Outlaw.
by ShawnG on Jul 8, 2010 11:55 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
we have great role players
but we are lacking a star
by blazin pp face on Jul 8, 2010 11:57 AM EDT up reply actions
Outlaw is a BAD SHOOTER
He shoots 44%! With a .512 TS%. Horrible.
Point of comparison: Josh Childress is a 52% shooter, with a .599 TS%.
The idea that Outlaw is a good shooter is ridiculous. He is a BAD shooter. This is an AWFUL signing.
by A.S. on Jul 8, 2010 11:57 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Also...
Also, Outlaw is a BAD REBOUNDER and a BAD ASSIST guy.
Basically, there is NOTHING he does well.
by A.S. on Jul 8, 2010 11:59 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
a.s.
You are absolutely correct. Kleiza, Gooden, Yi etc are better statiscally and 2 orgs have given up on Outlaw. He is what he is and ain’t gettin no better. A limited reserve and a shooter that can’t shoot. 5 years at 7 mill is ridicuolous, it’s panic mode time
Please let it be 25M. I actually won’t hate this signing if it’s just 5M a year.
by BetterThanThat on Jul 8, 2010 12:18 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Ah hell
If you click on the link on Real GM it reads that it shows that it’s a 5 yr 35M. Guess the 25M on the front page is just a typo
by BetterThanThat on Jul 8, 2010 12:19 PM EDT up reply actions
i think damion james is gonna work his way into the starting line up and once hes there he will stay there
Since the face been revealed the game got real
by BL3ACH on Jul 8, 2010 12:02 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Let's hope
As far as I can tell, Damion James is ALREADY better than Outlaw. At least Damion James can rebound.
by A.S. on Jul 8, 2010 12:10 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
in the summer league...
against summer league teams. i like jame’s game, but lets wait to see what he does against real players before handing over a starting position to the kid.
For the people complaining about this signing. This guy is 25 yrs old still young to put around OUR young core. We now have wayyyyyyy more pieces then the Heat, Knicks, And Bulls I don’t see what the complaints is about. Put Lebron with this Line-up and we are good to go.
by Mikee21 on Jul 8, 2010 11:58 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Well, I do agree with the first line.
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by Rusty_b on Jul 8, 2010 11:58 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
why do we sign him now ?
instead of later after lebron comes…….
cuz he aint coming !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
if he starts at Sf
Instead of twill my head will explode
by NetsKiNG on Jul 8, 2010 12:00 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
u dont like that?
Harris
Clee/Twill
Outlaw
DLee/Favors
Lopez
it makes me smile
"We’re the new Nets. We’re leaving the old behind and we’re in with the new. Hopefully LeBron is going to be a part of that."
-Coach Avery Johnson.
Actually after seeing the summer league
I can see Twill NOT starting.
He has been playing PG/SG/SF. This could be to prepare him the the SIXTH MAN ROLE off the bench. Avery probably told him you are going to be the man off the BENCH. Be prepared to play with Favors and D. James.
If these guys can play like this during the regular season and against NBA bench players, we will be ok.
Still dont like the SIGNING.
+1
finally you’re back… i’ve been wading (waiting) through a sea of negativity all morning. he’s the perfect back up 3 for lebron. the pieces are falling into place ladies and gents.
lmao
Toney does what the douglas do. And no one can do what he does b/c doing it without being Toney Douglas just doesnt make it do what it do
Well first people are mad that we don't go out and sign Boozer or Lee
Now we sign Outlaw for 35 mil and you’re still mad. This is the NBA free agent market. Would you rather we built slow and got someone crappy? I though you guys wanted to compete? Sure you could’ve gotten Korver or something, but you guys don’t want to “tank”
by muwu on Jul 8, 2010 12:02 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
LeBron a very long shot, BUT
This could very well mean now they are starting to fill in the players around LeBron because they know he’s coming to NJ (ok, now is when everyone who just read this rolls there eyes and is already thinking of what to write in response – such as shut up, get over it!).
Anyway, let’s sign Farmar and Lee!
would also explain
why others teams snapped up boozer & lee because that’s all they were gonna get. the team we have now with outlaw & korver + LBJ would be a real contender with room to grow
I put to you guys like this. Travis Outlaw will be either two things, good or bad. People are saying that this guys sucks but give him a chance. For anyone who really watch sports know that you have to fit in on a team. Depends on how he is coached and how he is used, then we can determine if he’s bad or good for the team. also the same goes for Tyrus Thomas.
Dre Day all day
by Dre Day41 on Jul 8, 2010 12:02 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
well look at the garbage the nets are left with, this is not what type of big splash the nets were hoping for, and now i am feeling the sense of false hope given by some over posh owner, who is going to become hated by the fans right off the bat now, and by the way to hell with rod thorn, he needs to be fired before he can quit, this is just a whole bunch of excuses over and over again and nothing is getting justified, screw this team, id rather watch golf
by Benl1 on Jul 8, 2010 12:08 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Pay Lee 75 Mil For 5 Years
Need Someone Good.
by NetsYankee on Jul 8, 2010 12:04 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
i'm standing on top of my couch now\
and im’ thinking of jumping off…… the coffeetable seems too high
by blazin pp face on Jul 8, 2010 12:04 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
i convinced my bosss to let me work form home
What a waste….lol
by NetsYankee on Jul 8, 2010 12:05 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
hey rod
SIGN LEE!
"We’re the new Nets. We’re leaving the old behind and we’re in with the new. Hopefully LeBron is going to be a part of that."
-Coach Avery Johnson.
by Andy. on Jul 8, 2010 12:07 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
When is the press conference cant wait for it
about to go and buy a jersey of travis outlaw whos with me
CHAMPS 2010-11!!!!
"Avery Johnson: Erase to Replace"
Net Fans We still have a Chance LEBRON IS COMING!!!!
and your nickname
July 1st in this b***h wuzzzzup
-Proky and Hova
by NetsMets4Life on Jul 8, 2010 12:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Travis Outlaw
Exceptional athleticism… Great mobility… Very active… Very long and skinny… Has developed a very nice perimeter game… Can easily shoot over defenders… Nice shooting touch… Grasps team concept?
"We’re the new Nets. We’re leaving the old behind and we’re in with the new. Hopefully LeBron is going to be a part of that."
-Coach Avery Johnson.
Try telling that to half the NBA
I’m sure Eddy Curry would like to show you his exceptional athleticism… in a hotdog eating contest
by muwu on Jul 8, 2010 12:14 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
BLUE PRINT FOR SUCCESS TRAVIS OUTLAW
God sent us a Prokhorov, an Avery, and a FAVORS!!!!.
by NJ Champ on Jul 8, 2010 12:11 PM EDT reply actions 2 recs
Nice shooting touch???
He shoots 44% for his career! And last year he shot 39%! That’s not a “nice shooting touch”. Whoever wrote that does not follow basketball.
his career % from 3pt is the most important thing. He can knock down the trey
"No one stands on the top of the world. Not you, not me, not even gods. But the unbearable vacancy of the throne in the sky is over. From now on...I will be sitting on it."
by MrDollarBills on Jul 8, 2010 1:50 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
back on board DB?
i think people underestimate how good outlaw can be given minutes. I’d say he’s a more athletic Tayshaun Prince by far.
Well
At least this answers our question. Lebron is definitely not coming here this season. What a waste of two years
Check this out before we all start killing ourselves..
So he compares pretty favorably with Rudy Gay, as it turns out.
Outlaw had an injury filled season, but is a proven scorer when healthy and pretty clutch at that.
This past season Gay averaged 39.7 minutes, 19.6 points, 5.9 rebounds, 1.9 assists, 1.48 steals, .8 blocks, 2.1 TO’s, and shot 46.6 for the field and went 66-202 from 3 for 32%. He is 6’8" 220 and 23 years old and played 80 games and would have cost us a ton of money.
Outlaw averaged 21.5 minutes, 9.1 points, 3.6 rebounds, 1 assist, .5 steals, .5 blocks, .9 TO’s, shot a gross 39% from the field, but a respectable 40-105 from 3 for 38%. He is 6’9" 210 pounds and is 25. he played 34 games this year between the Blazers and the Clippers.
if you look at their compared per 48minute numbers they are pretty close.
Gay: 23.7 ppg, 7.1 rpg, 2.3 apg, .9 bpg, 1.7 spg in 48 minutes
Outlaw: 20.3 ppg, 8 rpg, 2.2 apg, 1.1 bpg, 1.1 spg in 48 minutes (and he’s a better 3 point shooter)
Just saying.
by Will J on Jul 8, 2010 12:12 PM EDT reply actions 2 recs
did we just compare Gay, a rising talent, to Outlaw?
"No one stands on the top of the world. Not you, not me, not even gods. But the unbearable vacancy of the throne in the sky is over. From now on...I will be sitting on it."
by MrDollarBills on Jul 8, 2010 1:51 PM EDT up reply actions
it wouldn't be that bad of a comparison
if gay wasn’t 2 years younger with like 4 less years in the league.
I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson
Why is everyone so happy Outlaw is coming?
"Avery Johnson: Erase to Replace"
Wall2KingJames to JamesSucks
Damion James will be by December.
by calling all toasters on Jul 8, 2010 2:21 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I am not saying I dont like Outlaw.
I like him as a player. I just dont like that amount.
Here is the thing he is a shooter and if Avery is going to use his experience with duncan and try to duplicate it with Lopez then this is a good move putting aside the amount.
We also have to put in consideration what Miller, Korver and JJ redick are going to get. If they get more then Outlaw or go to winning teams for less, we can say this is why we signed him. If they get less and go to crappy teams, then Let the Management BASHING BEGIN.
Do I always need to specify a sarcastic remark? That was too outrageous to be true... :(
by jirohkanzaki on Jul 8, 2010 12:16 PM EDT up reply actions
so we have two injury prone players
in our starting line up.
Dolan won
by killa kadafi191 on Jul 8, 2010 12:14 PM EDT reply actions
I can't believe we gave Travis flipping Outlaw five years at 7M per.
I’m going to be sick.
by TWilliAM on Jul 8, 2010 12:14 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
According to Kerber...
Kyle Korver “will be” next.
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16 years/130m
Now it doesn’t sound so bad.
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by Rusty_b on Jul 8, 2010 12:17 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Hey, we still got $23 mil in cap space… is that enough to get Korver and RJ?
by calling all toasters on Jul 8, 2010 2:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Enough for bron and whatever shooter he wants. Someone in the FanPost said they heard a rumored deal for CP3. Go to ‘’Timeline, July 8, 2010’’. CP3 guarantees Bron.
There is no Chris Paul trade in the works, because there is no reason for the Hornets to trade him as they are now under the luxury tax.
by diehardNFFLbarnone on Jul 8, 2010 3:44 PM EDT up reply actions
only one reason: He requested a trade last week
I would hope you would support who we are. Not, who we are not. Coach Norman Dale "Hoosiers"
You will make a $1000 donation to the charity of my choice? I appreciate it, but how will I contact you if you stop posting?
How desperate are the Nets now with this signing?
by Mikee21 on Jul 8, 2010 12:15 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
By the allstar break, the whole league will know this is a bad contract when we are trying to unload it to get Carmelo and get screwed over again in the SUMMER of 2011. Not only will we be trying to unload this disastrous contract, we may need to package one of our young pieces to get him out of here. Think to the future….. 7 mil a year for a role player who has little success in this league. Just squander away all the cap room we had.
I would have been happier with Tyrus, he still has upside and has shown flashes before, Avery might be able to put it together with him.
I would also rather take Mike Beasley for a year, for less money and more talent by FAR, and see how that works, if he comes into his potential he can sign with us for more years.
Oh well act like the knicks and rush to throw money around.
I am going to turn this team around 360 Degrees- Jason Kidd
by njnets on Jul 8, 2010 12:16 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
paying Travis Outlaw 7m a season is throwing money around, bro.
Unbelievable.
"No one stands on the top of the world. Not you, not me, not even gods. But the unbearable vacancy of the throne in the sky is over. From now on...I will be sitting on it."
by MrDollarBills on Jul 8, 2010 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Gina..Where are you !!!
Please make these people understand this guy is a mediocre role player and not deserving of 35 mill.
don't need Gina for that
what you just said is pretty obvious to any serious NBA fan but apparently not to the wonderful Nets brass!!
Its sick u guys are obsessed
with Gina…dont worry she’ll be on soon…
"We’re the new Nets. We’re leaving the old behind and we’re in with the new. Hopefully LeBron is going to be a part of that."
-Coach Avery Johnson.
Plan C at the 3
No LBJ, No Rudy Gay, I guess he is Plan C at the3. I always liked him. It’s a reasonable amount in years 1-3 if he stays healthy, I wish it had been 3 or 4 years but hey.
Nicknames: "Troutlaw," and, by extension, "The Slammin' Salmon"
from sham sports
God sent us a Prokhorov, an Avery, and a FAVORS!!!!.
GET DAVID LEE NOW.
I don’t care if he wants 80mill/5 years…. just do it!
Harris
Lee
Outlaw
Lee
Lopez
with solid bench= Blazers of the East.
" I'm really excited to take the worst team in the league and turn it to be the best in the league." --Mikhail Prokhorov.
by Claud on Jul 8, 2010 12:17 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
if he wants to build his legacy from scratch
and build a championship team over 5 years, this is his best bet.
mbspam17, Here is my explanation
OK, and I appreciate the fact that you at least want to hear what I have to say, instead of thinking i’m nuts. Here is my theory:
Prokhorov: The man is a billionaire many times over. He can bring Bron whatever and whoever he wants in FA, trades, etc. He can make Bron a global icon in countries that other owners can’t. Jerseys, extra endorsement deals, etc. He helped fund the Atlantic Yards project, so the team is ensured of going to Brooklyn. That is Bron’s favorite borough. The man predicted Wade and Bosh’s destination correctly. A lucky guess? Maybe. I think he knew about all of these players destinations all along. Why else would ESPN leak a story like this? And now they have a special show about his decision? Come on.
Thorn. The man wrote a book that is due out, and he is dedicating the final chapter to Bron’s free agency. I kid you not. That is true. Do you really think he wants to write about an epic failure, especially after his legacy of drafting Jordan, and trading for Kidd? I seriously doubt it. He’s not an egomaniac like other front office types, but don’t think he is not aware of his legacy. He won’t want to ruin it.
Jay. OK, this is a highly controversial topic, and I can say many things about him, but consider this: the man is minority owner(although I heard from him and Yormark that his role will be increased in due time), he’s Bron’s idol, friend, mentor, etc. You think he’s gonna let him screw him over like this? Epsecially with a billboard of him and Prokhorov up there. The 20-23 minutes he spent alone with Bron after the presentation was to ’’reinforce’’ the bullet points of the team’s pitch. I highly doubt that is all they talked about. He doesn’t know NBA personnel, i’m sure of that, but I would think Prokhorov and/or Thorn told him about their plans, and he relayed that to Bron. The two are tight likethis. Do not discount that.
Other hints-I get the fact that Twitter can be volatile with stories from who knows where, but Ochocinco, Villanueva, etc. have been dropping hints, all of which still say the Nets are in it. Whether you believe it or not is up to you.
All in all, I don’t think the organization wants to be embarassed. That’s gone on for too long. Putting up a mammoth billboard with Prokhorov and Jay on it, and then not getting Bron will look like a complete and utter nightmare. I think it’s obvious: Why has the organization been so quiet? Simple. They told Bron of their plans. He probably signed off on it, and this is how they go about it. It’s not a 1-2 year process, because he’s not winning a championship this or next year, no matter where he goes. It’s for the next 5-10 years, when the team moves to Brooklyn, and is ready to contend. He knows this is a long process, but the franchise can be built his way, with whatever players he wants, due to Prokhorov’s incredible resources. Essentially, it’s his franchise, with a statue outside of the Barclays Center one day. I think they had a handshake or verbal agreement. Don’t forget, also, that deals can be done after tonight. It doesn’t all have to be done before he announces his decision. He probably knows that, as well. All in all, I think he knows that this is the best place for him long-term, and that is why I think he will sign with Nets tonight.
by lupojohn3 on Jul 8, 2010 3:53 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Next on the Nets agenda tarding Devin Harris to the Lakers
and then Signing him to a max contact SMH….outlaw is good but he doesn’t warrant this type of contract 7 years 5 mill per ok….5 years 7 mill per no
How about this? I say we are going to sign Bron, and trade for CP3. Okafor will be our starting PF. Not the greatest, but you do what you have to. That make you feel better?
Absolutely not - David Lee is a joke
As is this entire franchise so quite obviously that is probably what is coming next.
He is a good piece to add
Outlaw can play, hope he stays healthy. We should be going with the mindset of Oklahoma CIty- with all their young talent. Keep grabbing as much young talent as possible. OKC will be contenders for years at this point, that should be our blueprint. Forget LBJ and all those big stars now, teams gotta build their own dynasty the old fashioned way sometimes.
by NiceBull on Jul 8, 2010 12:19 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
They have an MVP caliber player WE are NOT OKC
Durant > Nets
i like the plan
But just don’t expect the success of OKC without getting lucky in the draft
Exactly, gotta take a couple more years. Grab as much as you can. Just saying that OKC is young and successful and that should be more attractive than spending more on old FA’s. Boston is an anomaly with that title from their FA’s.
by NiceBull on Jul 8, 2010 12:25 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Next on the Nets agenda trading Devin Harris to the Lakers for Adam Morrison
and then signing him to a max contact ….
outlaw is good but he doesn’t warrant this type of contract 7 years 5 mill per ok….5 years 7 mill per NO!
+1
We’ll have Korver, C. Lee, Outlaw, D. James to spread the floor for Brook and Devin.
This will be a very interesting season.
agreed.
While we still don’t appear to be playoff bound, I think this team as is will be competitive. I don’t offer Tyrus Thomas any significant money though, that is foolish. I talk to either Scola or Haslem. If we are gonna pay over 7 million we might as well start with those two.
Teams cannot double team and triple team Lopez anymore, and they cannot collapse in on Devin. This is HUGE for us offensively. Couple that in with T-WIll, who is primed for a break out season(I’m predicting 17-18ppg 6rpg 6apg), and suddenly thinks look a tad bit more interesting. Again, I’m not predicting playoffs.
The urge….for optimism….rising……
"No one stands on the top of the world. Not you, not me, not even gods. But the unbearable vacancy of the throne in the sky is over. From now on...I will be sitting on it."
by MrDollarBills on Jul 8, 2010 1:58 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
the russian was all talk
5 year 10 year for playoffs
by killa kadafi191 on Jul 8, 2010 12:19 PM EDT reply actions
Travis Outlaw is a nice bench player on a championship team.
He’s not worth 7M per. Lamar Odom is old and twice the player Outlaw is… and he makes 8M.
the best he could do so far
what do you want for a team playing in Newark for 2 or 3 years coming off a 12 win season??
I like him too...
…maybe a bit overpaid, maybe not, this type of talented players that are putted in the bench for years when begin to start and getting very minutes tend to explode a be very good….let’s see a like him…
by Heavinsent on Jul 8, 2010 12:20 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
I've never seen a group of people
Get so high with the highs and so low with the lows… Sit back, watch what happens, and enjoy sports for what they are – ENTERTAINMENT.
by Kmart6nets on Jul 8, 2010 12:21 PM EDT reply actions 4 recs
Looks like we're getting Korver too (ny post)
Multiple sources have confirmed The Nets agreed to a five-year, $35 million deal with Travis Outlaw. And independent sources told The Post that former Jazz sharpshooting guard Kyle Korver will sign with the Nets, too.
God sent us a Prokhorov, an Avery, and a FAVORS!!!!.
Good take away time from the guy who dropped 30 yesterday and Twill.. great!
I am going to turn this team around 360 Degrees- Jason Kidd
If the Nets also get Korver
Then I like what the Nets have done with the exception of Outlaw’s contract.
Harris, Clee, Outlaw, Favors, Lopez
TWill, Djames, Korver, ? , ?
Moose as Back up PF, and a serviceable C.
we need a vet PG, back up C, and starting PF.
Favors is NOT ready. And that’s not a bad thing.
Adding shooting though…at least Rod got something right even though the fool overpaid for Outlaw. That is AWFUL.
"No one stands on the top of the world. Not you, not me, not even gods. But the unbearable vacancy of the throne in the sky is over. From now on...I will be sitting on it."
by MrDollarBills on Jul 8, 2010 2:01 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Here's all you need to know to put this in perspective...
If you were 12, bought a pack of Fleer/Upper Deck/whatever basketball cards and found you got a Travis Outlaw card…
would you care??
Of course ''Travis Outlaw the guy who replaced Lebron James''
God sent us a Prokhorov, an Avery, and a FAVORS!!!!.
hahahahaha
i almost fell out of my chair laughing at thisssssss
by blazin pp face on Jul 8, 2010 12:25 PM EDT up reply actions
kyle korver???
i’ve never been sold on him.. no d whatsoever.. i dont want him on my team
by Jumpoff856 on Jul 8, 2010 12:23 PM EDT reply actions 2 recs
The whole problem with last year
Was that teams had the tendency to SCORE MORE POINTS THAN US.
We NEED a shooter horribly. Just like we need a rebounder.
I was never big on Ashton
but that’s usually because I was annoyed with him hitting shots. that won’t be such a problem now. plus we get Demi Moore coming to games.
theree was a reason the jazz were so good
and it wasn’t just because williams and boozer. they had so much space for pick and roll because Korver really spaced it out for them.
The guy can shoot. You'll be glad he's here when teams try to collapse on Harris and B-lo
Harris could potentially get back to ASG status now that we can keep defenses honest. A team would be foolish to slack off and let Lee, Korver, Outlaw, and James stroke from three with reckless abandon. T-Will’s assist numbers could be very decent if he doesn’t make dumb plays.
Okay Nets. Give me one or two more solid moves here. At least we can have a fun young team to watch while rebuilding.
"No one stands on the top of the world. Not you, not me, not even gods. But the unbearable vacancy of the throne in the sky is over. From now on...I will be sitting on it."
by MrDollarBills on Jul 8, 2010 2:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Good sign Korver for 4 years 40 million now we have 4 sf’s while Damien sits on the bench.
I am going to turn this team around 360 Degrees- Jason Kidd
by njnets on Jul 8, 2010 12:23 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Damion will not sit the bench
The rotation could be Outlaw/James, Lee/Korver, Harris/Williams. That is a decent perimeter rotation, just add a veteran PG to the mix. Maybe we can bring Key back?
Plus, Outlaw is injury prone, or James could take the starting job outright. He is ready right now to play.
"No one stands on the top of the world. Not you, not me, not even gods. But the unbearable vacancy of the throne in the sky is over. From now on...I will be sitting on it."
by MrDollarBills on Jul 8, 2010 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
is this contract really so bad?
‘09-’10 SF salaries
Corey Maggette $8,937,931
Quentin Richardson $8,700,000
Stephen Jackson $7,650,000
Andres Nocioni $7,500,000
Marvin Williams $7,500,000
Shane Battier $6,864,200
Jared Jeffries $6,466,600
John Salmons $6,429,151
Shawn Marion $6,385,068
Jason Kapono $6,212,960
Tim Thomas $6,173,055
ok i’d rather have nocioni and maybe stephen jackson but we’re getting outlaw going into his prime hopefully and comparatively i don’t think we are overpaying by that much. this is a signing based on potential. outlaw is only 25. yes he might be terrible and we might regret it but come on guys it could be a good signing too.
(i say all this knowing full well that the posters on these boards are the most pessimistic, non-supportive “fans” anywhere)
It is bad because we are trying to get SF Lebron and have T-Will and Damion James who can play SF...
by jirohkanzaki on Jul 8, 2010 12:26 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
there is also a chance to get Melo next year who is also a SF...
by jirohkanzaki on Jul 8, 2010 12:27 PM EDT up reply actions
NO.
This kid is physically and apparently mentally ready to contribute NOW
The last thing I want to see if James and Favors traded away foolishly.
After a brief mental collapse yesterday, MrDB has come back to his senses.
"No one stands on the top of the world. Not you, not me, not even gods. But the unbearable vacancy of the throne in the sky is over. From now on...I will be sitting on it."
by MrDollarBills on Jul 8, 2010 2:08 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
we're not getting lebron
if we thought we had a shot they wouldn’t have made this offer.
i agree with others who think twill will be a jack of all trades 6th man this year.
and james is a rookie so let’s lower our expectations a bit….
by kareraisu on Jul 8, 2010 12:28 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Spots left
Pf is either Lee or Thomas, I want Thomas
backup center – Brad Miller
veteran point guard – dooling or better.
ROFL!!!!!!!!!!
God sent us a Prokhorov, an Avery, and a FAVORS!!!!.
by NJ Champ on Jul 8, 2010 12:27 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I think its his signature move
God sent us a Prokhorov, an Avery, and a FAVORS!!!!.
by NJ Champ on Jul 8, 2010 12:28 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Check out the D on Kobe
God sent us a Prokhorov, an Avery, and a FAVORS!!!!.
by NJ Champ on Jul 8, 2010 12:30 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
He's got some emotion too
God sent us a Prokhorov, an Avery, and a FAVORS!!!!.
by NJ Champ on Jul 8, 2010 12:33 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Put the 2 of them together and you get.....
God sent us a Prokhorov, an Avery, and a FAVORS!!!!.
by NJ Champ on Jul 8, 2010 12:41 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Now I know his favorite movie ROLF!
by jasperjarrod on Jul 8, 2010 4:14 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
lmfaoooooooooo !! this pic is too funny…wow this is hilarious !
by BLUEPRINT.FOR.GREATNESS on Jul 8, 2010 12:30 PM EDT up reply actions
David Lee
I’d love to see the Nets land Lee, but wasn’t he all but signed with the Warriors?
Lebron wants to play in Miami
With his super team of D-Leaguers.
Let him.
As long as he’s not in New York, that’s all I care about if we don’t get him.
Even Proky knew that Lebron going to Miami was going to happen.
He told Lebron that.
Lets be real. I dont have a big ego. If I was in Lebron’s shoes I would go to Miami to. I LOVE FL. The weather. The Girls. Now Playing with WADE and BOSH, NO Stress.
I don't get what's the big deal with the contract
ANYONE we sign this summer will be overpaid in regards to their rightful value. EVERYONE ELSE has been overpaid! That’s the market we’re in!
by muwu on Jul 8, 2010 12:26 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Even Ray Allen got 20 million for 2 years this summer! Is he still worth that? Heck no. But why? Because THAT'S THE MARKET
by muwu on Jul 8, 2010 12:28 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Broad point being, EVERYONE IS GETTING OVERPAID, STOP OVERREACTING LIKE THIS IS NEW
Channing frye got 30 million, Darko got 20, Steve Blake got 16, etc
I know everybody is getting overpaid.
Many people get drunk. Doesn’t mean I have to be a dumb ass and join them.
Well you're not gonna be left with a whole lot of other options
Unless we’re getting a head start on a lock for a top 4 pick again. Harrison Barnes!
by muwu on Jul 8, 2010 12:36 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
...then why didn't we offer $80M then to Boozer then if that's the "market"...
Nets have been emphasizing that they are going to spend wisely but that crap has been thrown out the window?
by jirohkanzaki on Jul 8, 2010 12:31 PM EDT up reply actions
we need a 4 not a 3...
also, are the Nets throwing their strategy out the window? it is too late and the best recourse is to stick to it
by jirohkanzaki on Jul 8, 2010 12:38 PM EDT up reply actions
You're right
Everybody cares about TWilliaM though, what else can you tell us about how things work?
Rod said
That we didn’t have the chance to match it because him and his agent never got back to the Nets after the bulls offer him the $80M.
by jasperjarrod on Jul 8, 2010 4:19 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
there is no big deal, you are right. Just average uninformed complaining going on here.
by NiceBull on Jul 8, 2010 12:28 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
No to Korver, he have made 5M the past year....
….he’s gonna demand the same money as Outlaw, for a guy who can just shoot the ball and nothing more.
Get Morrow is dead-eye shooter and can do a bit o everything, and wants less money.
by Heavinsent on Jul 8, 2010 12:26 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Has anyone gone to the Nets website
One of their top stories is a picture of Avery with the words: “Free Agency: It’s not just for players”
The Nets have now realized they have struck out.
July 1st in this b***h wuzzzzup
-Proky and Hova
cheesy gordita crunch!!!
they might not be on the menu buf if you make big fuss they’ll give in and make you one!!!
seriouslyyyyy???????
i loved that thing….but i thought they stopped making it….so i never bothered asking
by blazin pp face on Jul 8, 2010 12:30 PM EDT up reply actions
they'll make it
i ordered if after the limited time was over and they’ll charge you like $3.15 for it. So worth it
yep
cheesy gordita crunch+crunchwrap supreme+baja blast= mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
Blazin, you deliver to mexico?
Pretty good signing
Its not bad as u may think. It may be 7 mil a yr but we needed to do something, He can play SF at 6’9 . We needed to sign someone to give us some depth or maybe a starting SF if lebron doesnt come. and Kyle Korver is most likely coming, the nets r atleast doing something to make a late run at lebron. But this is building for a decent season, maybe 7 or 8 seed. Starters should be, pg-harris sg-t-will sf-korver pf-outlaw c-lopez, Key reserves- D. james, Clee, favors
Sign Anthony Morrow please the guy can score
I am going to turn this team around 360 Degrees- Jason Kidd
by njnets on Jul 8, 2010 12:29 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
yeah!!!!!!!
all this time we wanted lebron when it was anthony morrow who we should have been turning towards to cure us of our woe!!!
with this market
i don’t think you can say that this deal is bad… everyone is getting overpaid
im sorry
but other teams stupidity doesnt excuse ours
they completely over paid because they hadnt signed anyone
PANIC MOVE
I don't mind Outlaw...
but that doesn’t change the fact that this off season – which was supposed to be amazing – has been a complete and utter failure.
by unstop on Jul 8, 2010 12:32 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
I know, but...
We not only didn’t get everything we wanted, we didn’t get the next batch of things we wanted, or even the next batch of things we wanted after that.
Actually, we got literally nothing we wanted during the year we were supposed to get everything.
by unstop on Jul 8, 2010 12:35 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I think, as Nets fans, the best attitude to have is to be optimistic about our future. We were shut out of the marquee guys but it could easily be a blessing in disguise in the future.
Trust me, the way the front office is building this team may not seem sexy at first but they are doing it the right way. We’re filling our roster with young, athletic players who are perfect complements to Brook Lopez. We’ll have a chance to get to the playoffs next year and improve the year after that.
by Air Force 1 on Jul 8, 2010 12:41 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
That's the thing though...
I didn’t give in to the hype. I never expected to get Lebron. John Wall would have been nice, but deep down I had a feeling we’d miss out on that too.
What I did expect however was that we’d get SOMETHING. You know, something between Plan A and Plan Y. We ended up with Plan Z.
by unstop on Jul 8, 2010 12:59 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
We didn’t want to overspend on Boozer or David Lee, so we overspend for Travis Outlaw? Brilliant move Nets…brilliant.
by DrazenPetrovic on Jul 8, 2010 12:32 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
thats like
4 million more than he deserved
by michaelbot1 on Jul 8, 2010 12:35 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
its 35 million on a guy who is certainly not worth it…that is the definition of overspending.
by DrazenPetrovic on Jul 8, 2010 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
its 35 million on a guy who is certainly not worth it…that is the definition of overspending.
by DrazenPetrovic on Jul 8, 2010 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
why
both are overspends. At least if we overspent giving Lee 75 million we’d have an actual starting impact player. Now we’ll likely spend the same amount on 2-3 overpays and get less production than we would have if we had just signed Lee.
I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson
Amare is being introduced today,
They should be complaining about overpaying.
I am going to turn this team around 360 Degrees- Jason Kidd
A little different. Outlaw at 7 per rather than 16 per for boozer and 15 per for lee. Just saying.
Oh, and we still have Favors. RELAX.
by Will J on Jul 8, 2010 12:33 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
i think everybody and their pet dog
knew that favors wasnt gonna be offensively polished right off the bat, so give him a break…give him some time before you audaciously label him a bust
by warstory on Jul 8, 2010 1:18 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Sorry, this is just a bad take.
Favors is getting adjusted to the speed of the game.
Actually watch what he does in each possession instead of looking at the box score. The kid is better offensively than I thought. I loved that turnaround J he hit last night
"No one stands on the top of the world. Not you, not me, not even gods. But the unbearable vacancy of the throne in the sky is over. From now on...I will be sitting on it."
by MrDollarBills on Jul 8, 2010 2:10 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Relax? Our team just got shutout in free agency and spent 35 million dollars on Travis Outlaw! Terrible, terrible job by the Nets.
by DrazenPetrovic on Jul 8, 2010 1:53 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
As if there weren't any other sign that Lebron isn't coming
“In our situation we needed a starting three and Travis had some really good years in Portland," Avery Johnson told Fred Kerber.
Please stop with "everyone is getting overpaid"...
Nets have been saying they are going to spend wisely…if Nets wanted to overpay they would have offered Boozer $80M on July 1…they are throwing their strategy out the window when it is already too late and what we should have done is to stick to the strategy
by jirohkanzaki on Jul 8, 2010 12:34 PM EDT reply actions 2 recs
$7M for an average SF we don't need is worse than $16M for a 20-10 PF, a position of most need...
by jirohkanzaki on Jul 8, 2010 12:44 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Smokescreen. What do you expect him to say? He’s a nice backup? Can’t say that after the contract you gave him.
Damion James is gonna be so much better than outlaw.
by giacomo on Jul 8, 2010 12:35 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Damion James is gonna be so much better than outlaw.
fixed
by Frigidevil on Jul 8, 2010 12:40 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Drew Gooden got 8-9 per year
Darko got 5 per year
Outlay is somewhere in b/w these 2 players so its not a crazy deal.
God sent us a Prokhorov, an Avery, and a FAVORS!!!!.
THOSE WERE 2 OF THE WORST DEALS EVER
HOW CAN YOU LOOK AT THOSE AND SAY THIS ISNT HORRIBLE
WE GROSSLY OVERSPENT
OTHER TEAMS’ INCOMPETENCE DOESN’T EXCUSE OURS
by michaelbot1 on Jul 8, 2010 12:40 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
get your facts correct before you post
Gooden signed for less than Outlaw..5 years @ 32 mill
Not a bad signing
He can do LOT of things and fills a big hole. there aren’t a lot of top SF’s so he is as good as any.
by djsupreme on Jul 8, 2010 12:38 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
The Nets should change their name...
to Saved by the Bell: The New Class
We’re gonna sit and watch a bunch of mediocre replacements for the stars we wish were still available.
“When the teacher pops a test, I know I’m in a mess!…”
and the year after that
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by michaelbot1 on Jul 8, 2010 12:41 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
and the year after that...
and the year after that…
by bbatts30 on Jul 8, 2010 12:42 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
so by 2098 we'll begood i guess
God sent us a Prokhorov, an Avery, and a FAVORS!!!!.
by NJ Champ on Jul 8, 2010 12:43 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
so by 2098 we'll begood i guess
God sent us a Prokhorov, an Avery, and a FAVORS!!!!.
by NJ Champ on Jul 8, 2010 12:43 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
no clue how that happened, I didn’t copy/paste
by DrazenPetrovic on Jul 8, 2010 3:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Anyways
On our power forward, I think I’d much rather go for Scola than Tyrus. And before everyyyyone starts whining again, yes, we will overpay for them. No other way to get them. Hey, make a choice, get them or get no one, up to you. Me, I’m actually fine with tanking next season. Let’s get another top 4 pick in here. But then again, I’d have to put up with soooo much whining again. Who’s gonna be this year’s Yi?
Except that we have no real answers at PF. So signing Scola would make sense to me.
We have plenty of depth at the three. The Nets are at a point where they need to see if James or TWill can play the position.
Outlaw is a superfluous and inferior option, IMO.
Yeah
Outlaw was a questionable deal.
I say go for Scola or Haslem. Nothing too insane though, Rod already screwed up with giving Outlaw more than 5-6 per
"No one stands on the top of the world. Not you, not me, not even gods. But the unbearable vacancy of the throne in the sky is over. From now on...I will be sitting on it."
by MrDollarBills on Jul 8, 2010 2:13 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
He should just quit right now
There goes his Winning % swirling down the toilet
by 3ptChucker on Jul 8, 2010 12:40 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Wait, it says he can play PF, too. Play him there and Bron at SF.
michael, like Bron, I have some secrets about that, but I never reveal them, especailly WHEN YOU GUYS ARE FREEZING MY COMPUTER! SLOW THE COMMENTS DOWN! When 5 of you type at once, my computer goes haywire.
Maybe we can sign Albert Pujols. He's a hall of famer
I am going to turn this team around 360 Degrees- Jason Kidd
I've got it!
Mark Sanchez!
July 1st in this b***h wuzzzzup
-Proky and Hova
by NetsMets4Life on Jul 8, 2010 12:43 PM EDT up reply actions
I like the signing. This isn’t the end. We had PLENTY of holes. We needed a PF and shooters. I wanted NO PART of Boozer and the fact that he didn’t give us the opportunity to match the offer proves that he was going to Chicago anyway no matter what so get over it. TWill can still be used as a chip and I still think he’ll get dealt in a deal. As far as overpaying and bidding against ourselves, if we did that, what did the Knicks do? The Suns didn’t even offer him that contract. I still think there’s more coming so I’m reserving calling it a failure yet. May not be LeBron but I’ll wait.
by CyberRambro on Jul 8, 2010 12:41 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
great signing
couldnt see 35M spent in a better way!!
Toney does what the douglas do. And no one can do what he does b/c doing it without being Toney Douglas just doesnt make it do what it do
Overpaying for Outlaw and Korver???
I thought the Pistons GM turned us down???
Hooray for mediocrity!!!
by JohnFromLongIsland on Jul 8, 2010 12:43 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Maybe Jay-Z finally got the call
That LBJ isn’t coming, and NOW the Nets are trying to do something.
Chad ford
The New Jersey Nets are on the verge of becoming the team with crazy cap room that got shut out from all the major free agents.
If LeBron spurns them tonight, the Nets ended up losing the recruiting battle for LeBron, Dwyane Wade, Chris Bosh, Amare Stoudemire, Rudy Gay and Carlos Boozer among others. And it sounds like they’re not front runners for landing David Lee.
I don’t think that’s what new owner Mikhail Prokhorov anticipated going into the summer.
With more than $30 million in cap space and all the top free agents off the market, what do they plan on doing?
The first hint came Thursday morning when the team came to terms with Travis Outlaw on a 5 year, $35 million dollar deal.
More is on the way. Sources say that the Nets are strongly considering making an offer to either Tyrus Thomas or Luis Scola to fill their hole at the power forward position.
Both Thomas and Scola are restricted free agents which means that the Bobcats and Rockets can match any offer.
The team is also exploring trades with teams looking to reduce their payroll. During the draft they had discussions with both the Pacers and Blazers about larger deals that included LaMarcus Aldridge and Danny Granger for the rights to No. 3 pick Derrick Favors.
The Nets plan to use about $20M of their $30M in cap space this summer. The plan is to hang onto the other $10M to use as an asset for in-season trades (they way the Thunder have masterfully done the past 2 years) and, if nothing materializes, to roll the cap space over to the 2011 season.
God sent us a Prokhorov, an Avery, and a FAVORS!!!!.
Damn, this is terrible.
They should sign Scola, though. He is great.
July 1st in this b***h wuzzzzup
-Proky and Hova
by NetsMets4Life on Jul 8, 2010 12:46 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Ford is a shill. You should know no one at ESPN likes the Nets.
by lupojohn3 on Jul 8, 2010 12:47 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Show me 1 post from any reporter at ESPN that is positive in any way to the Nets, and I will say you are correct.
by lupojohn3 on Jul 8, 2010 12:58 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
It is one thing to not like a signing but to bash the franchise doesn’t help
Since the face been revealed the game got real
If they couldn’t get the stars they were going to build, I would rather have no one then crap contracts. Then build through the draft.
Since the face been revealed the game got real
look at drafting Damion James
That was a great steal, funny how nobody looks at that
by warstory on Jul 8, 2010 1:21 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
plan is to hang onto the other $10M
Means we still have enough to sign Korver and TThomas :)
by jasperjarrod on Jul 8, 2010 4:49 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Haha imagine if Avery turns these bunch of losers
into a 58-win team just by him coaching?
hahahaha
by giacomo on Jul 8, 2010 12:45 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
That would be pretty cool
July 1st in this b***h wuzzzzup
-Proky and Hova
by NetsMets4Life on Jul 8, 2010 12:49 PM EDT up reply actions
If we get enough pieces
I feel like we can compete to the 8th seed with Bucks or Bob Cats, both of those teams have young guy with B level guys. Atleast we are getting talent…I say yes to Tyrus Thomas and Korver. Korver had the highest 3 point % last year.
z
Travis25Outlaw
1. Thank you everyone who’s been patiently waiting with me. I really appreciate and feel the love and support! 8 minutes ago via Echofon
God sent us a Prokhorov, an Avery, and a FAVORS!!!!.
Prokhorov should have his own 1 hour "tv special"
They can call it "how to lose a fanbase in 10 days". Just 10 days ago people were proclaiming Prokhorov a savior. Everyone was contemplating what big name free agents would flock to sign with the Nets because of Prok’s billions and influence, plus the Nets "young talent". Now we’re looking forward to the Nets signing guys like me for 2years/$1 million lol. Man what a difference 10 days makes.
On a side note, anyone else a lil worried about Prok? I just find it a little strange that Thorn suddenly retires after we finally finish the suffering under Ratner and for the first time in years allegedly have money to spend on FAs/signings. Why would Thorn push Kiki out the door if he wasn’t coming back anyway? Now we’re left with no one. Seems Thorn originally planned on coming back, but something about Prok changed his mind.
by TheMann2 on Jul 8, 2010 12:48 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
That something TheMann
was a low offer to return from a guy with billions of dollars. Thorn obviously got the message he wasn’t wanted back and now look what we get!!!!
I’m wondering if infact it was a low offer(would be weird from an owner with no NBA experience to not at least offer enough while he learns the ropes of the NBA himself) or if there was something else thorn saw that he didn’t like.
by TheMann2 on Jul 8, 2010 1:37 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Lets have faith in our coaching staff
If this team can commit on the defensive end we can be a good team. Devin was an all star and Avery can turn him back into that. Lopez is a top 3 center. This team just needs to get off on a good start. Remember we had no name guys last year and people though we could win at least 25-30 games with that roster. Getting rid of soft players like Yi, we now have guys that can play the game. Also I am very high on Damion James. I think this kid could be HUGE for us next year. As well as Favors and lets not forget T-Will coming into his own. We might not have gotten the home run this off-season. But we did draft well and or on the right track with Avery. Would you guys rather we over paid someone like Amare for an early 1st or 2nd round playoff exit? Not worth it.
by Christopher Manchesi on Jul 8, 2010 12:49 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
And for all of you optimists (even though there are barely any left)
I am a young fan, but I already know heartbreak like an older fan would. Never get hopes up too high. With this team (and others like the Mets, Jets, etc.) 90% of time your dreams will be crushed. My motto is
“hope for the best, prepare for the worst”
July 1st in this b***h wuzzzzup
-Proky and Hova
Patience
Now that is something important
July 1st in this b***h wuzzzzup
-Proky and Hova
by NetsMets4Life on Jul 8, 2010 12:54 PM EDT up reply actions
real talk tho
yall can go for scola and have a very strong frontline defensively
Toney does what the douglas do. And no one can do what he does b/c doing it without being Toney Douglas just doesnt make it do what it do
rofl
July 1st in this b***h wuzzzzup
-Proky and Hova
by NetsMets4Life on Jul 8, 2010 12:56 PM EDT up reply actions
C. Lee, Outlaw, Korver, T. Thomas
Now every team in the NBA will have to make a deal with us if they want championship quality role players.
Maybe Miami will give us one of their superstars so they could make an NBA quality team.
Go NETS!!!
by Air Force 1 on Jul 8, 2010 12:55 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
alanhahn
Donnie Walsh maintains he has “no idea” what LeBron’s decision may be. Said it was his understanding that if a team was out they’d be told. 8 minutes ago via UberTwitter
by No Sleep Till Brooklyn on Jul 8, 2010 12:55 PM EDT reply actions
Looks like the Nets got the first call.
by No Sleep Till Brooklyn on Jul 8, 2010 12:55 PM EDT up reply actions
probably...
July 1st in this b***h wuzzzzup
-Proky and Hova
by NetsMets4Life on Jul 8, 2010 12:56 PM EDT up reply actions
If the Knicks strike out we'll have a better team next year.
I’m rooting for LeBron to go back to Cleveland for two or three years.
See you then.
A short term contract may convince other team’s fans not to hate him so much because they will still have hope that he will join their team. At least after a year or two, they’ll stop hating him if they think they have a chance.
imagine the nets swing a deal for cp3 at 8 30 and lebron signs at 9 lmao
I am going to turn this team around 360 Degrees- Jason Kidd
CP3 is the key
Get him and we are in this thing. Him and okafor for devin, favors, and a late 1st rounder and 2nd rounder next year
July 1st in this b***h wuzzzzup
-Proky and Hova
by NetsMets4Life on Jul 8, 2010 1:00 PM EDT up reply actions
LOL you can feel it
I like you lupo, optimism is important on this day..
July 1st in this b***h wuzzzzup
-Proky and Hova
by NetsMets4Life on Jul 8, 2010 1:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Lets becoome the Warriors 07
Beat Miami first round with a bunch of non allstars who can still play ball, with the right defense also
by RandyOreens on Jul 8, 2010 12:58 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Who was the coach of the team they beat?
by No Sleep Till Brooklyn on Jul 8, 2010 12:59 PM EDT up reply actions
The guy on the left
God sent us a Prokhorov, an Avery, and a FAVORS!!!!.
by NJ Champ on Jul 8, 2010 1:02 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
last time I check
Dallas and Warriors are in the Western Conference.
by jasperjarrod on Jul 8, 2010 5:09 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
At least we're not Cleveland fans
Local radio guys in Cleveland talking about a LeBronFire tonight where people burn their King James gear. Sounds fun.
by muwu on Jul 8, 2010 12:58 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
well they should he deserves it
God sent us a Prokhorov, an Avery, and a FAVORS!!!!.
by NJ Champ on Jul 8, 2010 12:59 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
they might light his house on fire
Cavs should offer Delonte West for and Hickson for Beasley. The Heat would have to take it and they could stick it to Lebron.
naaah
he has done a hell of a lot with that entire state. if he chooses to leave where ever it is, he doesnt deserve the anguish that he will prolly get.. and to add… he is going to leave. either ny or mia. and police has already been issued to surround/protect his home.
Toney does what the douglas do. And no one can do what he does b/c doing it without being Toney Douglas just doesnt make it do what it do
Cavs are actively trying to get Flynn from Minny.
I wouldn’t rule out James/Cleveland yet.
by No Sleep Till Brooklyn on Jul 8, 2010 1:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Even seeing that the heat are gonna have the best talent ever, I dont see them meshing well together. they each may score 20 a game, but everyone else? They wont even touch the ball!
Also I understand that the nets are done with Lebron, why are they done with Lee?
Can you provide a link that says the Nets are done with Bron? Cause if you can’t, it’s all speculation. Like this whole Miami thing. It was just floated out there by Bron’s people to get a reaction. They didn’t get a positive one. Reported like that on Twitter at after 3AM(yes, I was on here at 3AM), by J.A. Adande.
Lovin' it Bobby Lupo!!!
Lupo, didn’t Avery just say that “we need a starting 3” and Outlaw yada yada yada?
He is your 3 man. Better than last year. But they’ll more, much more (Scola plus another guard, more beef at C), plus improvement from within to even up the record, get in the lower half of the bracket and scratch and claw and upset. I’m down with it – but that is it -——riiiight?
Harris/Twill/Uzoh
Lee/Twill/Ross
Outlaw/Twill/D.James
Scola/Hump/Favors
Lopez/Zoubek/Beef
So the Nets intend to spend 10-12 million more.
Korver for about 5.
Thomas for about 7.
Book it.
by No Sleep Till Brooklyn on Jul 8, 2010 1:04 PM EDT reply actions
ok im so so on Outlaw but if i see korver in a nets uni...... He should be on a team contending...
I am going to turn this team around 360 Degrees- Jason Kidd
Chad Ford on Twitter
CHI Trying to trump MJ? The Ego!
CLE Doesn’t care about winning. Wasted our time.
NY $ over ball.
MIA What a coward.
No mention of the Clippers.
That leaves…………….the Nets.
I think leaving out the Nets means we are in the same group as LA
July 1st in this b***h wuzzzzup
-Proky and Hova
by NetsMets4Life on Jul 8, 2010 1:06 PM EDT up reply actions
Man you could read anything out of nothing
He was saying, that’s what the media will be saying if he chooses to go to any of those teams.
This truly sucks!!! Outlaw will be hurt half of his contract and Korver can’t guard my niece on the wing. I expect a trade or else what a bust of an offseason.
Go Nets!
this was the only year outlaw has had serious injuries
Michael Jordan is the Nicolas Batum of America
marty>babbitt
by thomasikehara on Jul 8, 2010 1:08 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Lupojohn3...I figured it out...
The Nets signed Korver and Outlaw because they have a done deal with New Orleans to send Harris and Terrence Williams for cp3, which then brings LeBron…
If that GUARANTEED Lebron, I'd do it,but if it were to happen, I would not like trading TWill at all.
July 1st in this b***h wuzzzzup
-Proky and Hova
by NetsMets4Life on Jul 8, 2010 1:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Did we sign this guy yet?
"We’re the new Nets. We’re leaving the old behind and we’re in with the new. Hopefully LeBron is going to be a part of that."
-Coach Avery Johnson.
by Andy. on Jul 8, 2010 1:08 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
No, and dont know why that is the case.
July 1st in this b***h wuzzzzup
-Proky and Hova
by NetsMets4Life on Jul 8, 2010 1:08 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
It's a sign
That we have to take Okafor back with CP3. He’ll start. Yeah, I know, but i’m not picky at this point.
Wasn’t Yi young? Didn’t he have talent? Potential? What’s the difference with outlaw? He even makes MORE
I am going to turn this team around 360 Degrees- Jason Kidd
by njnets on Jul 8, 2010 1:08 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Forget the Heat
That team will never win a ring EVER book it.
July 1st in this b***h wuzzzzup
-Proky and Hova
by NetsMets4Life on Jul 8, 2010 1:10 PM EDT reply actions 2 recs
Scola or thomas
I would take Scola, hes more of a scorer, 16 pts and 8 reb to Thomas’s 9pts 6reb
Can people please stop responding to loopyjohn...
by downtownbrown77 on Jul 8, 2010 1:12 PM EDT reply actions 3 recs
Lupo, I've got more...
(sorry if someone posted this)…but Lupo, run with this one….
Chris Sheridan (12:12 PM)
Greenwich makes some sense because Jay-Z has a place there. I would imagine that might be one of the sites of some pre-wedding revelry for those in town for the Carmelo Anthony-La La Vazquez wedding. (Hecklers/IrateKnicksFans, by the way, are not welcome outside the site of the nuptuals.)
denial is the first part of the grieving process
by blazin pp face on Jul 8, 2010 1:13 PM EDT up reply actions
Pointless signing
Outlaw is a nice rotation player but you don’t tie up 7 million over 5 years to this guy. I think Damion James will be better than Outlaw in about a season, and TWill can start at SF if needed. If they were intent on handing out a contract to a SF it should have been Childress. Preferably they should have knocked the socks off of Scola and gotten him here before going agter anyone else. Thorn does the team a disservice to hand out a big contract like this to a middling player and then walking away. Not liking this signing at all.
by Chris2 on Jul 8, 2010 1:14 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
he's still an rfa we could have traded for his rights
I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson
and even at the same price
is a better player than outlaw
I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson
Childress scored the same amount of points
on 50-55% fg shooting. Outlaw does it on 43-45% field goal shooting. The gap is pretty large.
I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson
Exactly
Childress is a very good shooter. Outlaw is a bad shooter. That’s a very important difference.
Childress isn't exactly a good shooter at all
he’s just really efficient at getting to and finishing the rim
I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson
childress will go for 10-11 mil- not worth it
God sent us a Prokhorov, an Avery, and a FAVORS!!!!.
by NJ Champ on Jul 8, 2010 1:16 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
And yeah that's the worst part
there are plenty of sf’s about as useful, or even more useful, who would probably cost less and who we wouldn’t be stuck with for five years if they didn’t work out.
I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson
by Gina on Jul 8, 2010 1:16 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
um what
I mean it’s not terrible, but that still seems like too much for outlaw. And wtf Tyrus Thomas??? Why not Scola, or Lee, or Haslem? Thomas i the last person we need to commit money too.
I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson
The only positive of TT would be
the fact that when he went to Charlotte, he played well…Played D, played hard….now, that could have also just been because he knew he needed a contract…but if Avery can do what Larry Brown did for TT, it’s not that bad…but it’s a big, big IF…
thorn is not a good free agency GM
he has always been attracted to average/below average guys.
if you get shut of the Lebron game, you look hard into the trade route. Outlaw, Thomas, continue the sub-par Thorn free agency legacy. He be better to skip without locking us into these contracts
exactly it's a big if
and if we’re signing him to a long-term deal I’d hope they’re doing it on more than an if.
I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson
Not happy at all.
Yeah he is talented but he is not worth that money but not for that long. Korver… no… i rather Morrow. I guess there is no Carmelo in the future. That Billboard is a laughing stock now in front of MSG. EPIC FAIL! I rather go young. Then now we are going to give Korver 6 million? and Scola 9 million? For how long now. We will not get anything for five years…. I am not happy.
by Chuck D. on Jul 8, 2010 1:17 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Not so fast
If the Knicks don’t get Lebron, they are in shambles. They have an overpaid Amar’e and nobody else.
The Nets are in FAR better shape, and will actually have a talented team next year. We’re not going to beat anybody good, but we’ll make the playoffs.
we're in far better shape
but apparently actively trying to shoot ourselves in the foot.
I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson
by Gina on Jul 8, 2010 1:23 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I mean, c’mon, I know there is no good FA for the next 2 years. but at least stick with the young guys. Get Carmelo, nope, we got outlaw. I have no clue what this team is doing. It does not make sense.
yeah it makes no sense
signing a player like Outlaw long-term screams no real direction.
I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson
I don't get this either
I am confused
I would hope you would support who we are. Not, who we are not. Coach Norman Dale "Hoosiers"
I agree
what is the point of chewing up cap space with mediocre players? Maybe a Scola or Lee signing but Outlaw. Cap space is too precious to give up on mediocre players. You never know when a big deal might come up and having cap space could make it happen. I give up with this team. Not going anywhere. Same ole Nets.
unfortunately I'm feeling the same way
not spending on Lee/Boozer made sense if they were planning on rebuilding the OKC way, but to turn around and spend on an even less impactful piece, at a position where the need isn’t as great, and to commit ourselves for 5 years, which IMO is the worst part I wouldn’t care if this was a 3 year deal, just screams no plan.
I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson
by Gina on Jul 8, 2010 1:49 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I got no problem with
Korver i have wanted him for years
Since the face been revealed the game got real
So, guess everyone would be willing to come around to the idea of building slow now huh?
Not such a bad idea eh?
If you wanted activity, if you wanted moves, well there you go
The Nets front office says you’re all welcome. Does anyone still wanna whine about how building through the draft is worse?
i'd like to build slow
but this doesn’t signal building slow. it signals no real plan.
I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson
by Gina on Jul 8, 2010 1:22 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
This isn't building slow
people wanted the front office to make some moves, said the OKC way wasn’t gonna work. Well guess everyone got what they asked for then
by muwu on Jul 8, 2010 1:24 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
A positive to focus on: our own James
I just finished watching the Nets/Magic summer league game. In Damion James we have ourselves a player. There’s a positive, people! Focus on it!
Sheesh.
Popeye Jones - scaring the children of New Jersey since 2010.
'The Crossover' - a Nets and Knicks podcast. http://phobos.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewPodcast?id=268817312
Let's go back to the draft thread
And see how many people screamed and yelled at trading the pick for him.
Outlaw slowly got better by his 3rd or 4th year, then he peaked and slowly his points went back down. His most productive season’s were 4 years ago that what i am worried about
Since the face been revealed the game got real
by BL3ACH on Jul 8, 2010 1:23 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
this
and we’re committing to him for 5 years. it makes zero sense.
I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson
And IMO 7 million is to expensive for a role player, but to cheap for a player that can really impact your team. So its kind of in between, 7 million is enough to prevent you from signing a blue chip player next year or down the road when you need him.
Since the face been revealed the game got real
by BL3ACH on Jul 8, 2010 1:27 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Question
Can we trade a player that we just sign?
by jasperjarrod on Jul 8, 2010 5:26 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
What, look at his career stats right, that latest two season WERE THE SAME SEASON. Got traded.
He’s had one off season. Due to injuries.
o ok lol yeah then that helps a little bit, something didn’t make sense with that, i took into count the two seasons, but then there is a third with the numbers combined from both teams. So 1 season shows for three cause I didn’t see the years. Ok I understand what you are saying 2 seasons ago was his most productive. I never had a problem with anything but the cost which I still do 7 million for a career backup seems a lot still.
Since the face been revealed the game got real
Did I say that?
See that right there is my point. Straight to the negatives.
From what I’ve seen of the kid, he has some real talent. Seriously.
Popeye Jones - scaring the children of New Jersey since 2010.
'The Crossover' - a Nets and Knicks podcast. http://phobos.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewPodcast?id=268817312
Travis Outlaw aint that bad.
He was improving every year til he got hurt last year.
God sent us a Prokhorov, an Avery, and a FAVORS!!!!.
by NJ Champ on Jul 8, 2010 1:25 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
not really
he’s pretty much been maintaining status quo, and his status quo isn’t all that good.
I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson
basically.....its a done deal
nets are scrambling to find players now
by blazin pp face on Jul 8, 2010 1:30 PM EDT up reply actions
no I'd say it seems more like scrambling
adding pieces would be a deal like this for 2-3 years. Committing to a deal like it for 5 years, with a CBA change looming, is scrambling.
I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson
I agree Gina
we are scrambling here
I would hope you would support who we are. Not, who we are not. Coach Norman Dale "Hoosiers"
Miami out?
Source told FOXSports.com Miami Heat have offered Mike Miller 5-year deal worth 27-30 million with deadline tonight.
Strange
nm....misread the following tweet
Miami confident
Some Twitter updates/comments
Al
Outlaw is a starting quality small forward. Shouldn’t stunt TWill or DJames. RT @hulyan: Curious on your thoughts on the Outlaw signing?
Draftexpress
Damion James has been a beast, as expected. Shooting and scoring the ball very well so far. Big steal for New Jersey in the late first.
Terrence Williams has been very good also, but I’m a lot more skeptical about him. Dominating ball, looks very wild, but wow he’s talented.
What did I say about the market? Mike Miller has a 5 year offer from the heat, Jermain O’Neal got 12 million, the Mavs gave BRENDAN HAYWOOD 55 million
I'd rather pay market value for Lee
than market value for Outlaw.
I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson
Hey whats done is done. When I don’t agree with these things I complain a little bit then I accecpt it and then hope for the best.
Since the face been revealed the game got real
by BL3ACH on Jul 8, 2010 1:39 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I have thought the same thing watching TWill in the summer league
He plays out of control. I don’t know he’s talented but he’s already around 23 (not sure), but it will be interesting to see if he can show some improvement. He reminds me of a Dee Brown/Isiah Rider type. He may be someone to trade when his value is high. Like after he wins the slam dunk contest this year or next summer.
Until then, let’s see what Avery can do with him.
I agree
The first two games, other than the TO’s, T-Will looked good. He scored 22 last night but he was taking WAY too many shots.
I’m not worried about Terrence, either. The out of control stuff is overblown because it’s summer league. He is playing VERY hungry, and Avery will put the leash on him and make him into a better player, period. For now though, he is a great plug and play guy, I bring him in as a two guard and let him do his thing. Easily can rack 18 6 and 6 on this team.
I also want to see some more motor from T-Will on defense. I think there’s a lack of focus/effort in that area. He should be a hound on the ball. No excuses for bad defense this year from any perimeter player.
"No one stands on the top of the world. Not you, not me, not even gods. But the unbearable vacancy of the throne in the sky is over. From now on...I will be sitting on it."
by MrDollarBills on Jul 8, 2010 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions
but
I disagree with your Dee Brown/Isiah Rider comparison. You are really off base with that one. He’s a good player who is improving, I think that his jumper looks a lot better regardless of the amt of shots he took yesterday.
We need to be rooting for this kid to put it all together. He has star potential. Isiah Rider was pot smoking criminal who’s talent level was nowhere near this kid, who is a stat sheet stuffer. Bad, bad comparison, sorry bro.
"No one stands on the top of the world. Not you, not me, not even gods. But the unbearable vacancy of the throne in the sky is over. From now on...I will be sitting on it."
by MrDollarBills on Jul 8, 2010 3:52 PM EDT up reply actions
sorry, "whose"
"No one stands on the top of the world. Not you, not me, not even gods. But the unbearable vacancy of the throne in the sky is over. From now on...I will be sitting on it."
by MrDollarBills on Jul 8, 2010 3:52 PM EDT up reply actions
Outlaw is a starting quality small forward. Shouldn’t stunt TWill or DJames.
http://www.basketballprospectus.com/article.php?articleid=1179
“Outlaw and Kleiza have some similarities as three/fours who stretch the defense and provide scoring punch off the bench. I like Outlaw a bit more because of his defensive superiority.”
by TWilliAM on Jul 8, 2010 1:38 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
I think James will be the starter by March. The kid is just an animal on both ends of the floor.
Steal of the draft, EASILY.
"No one stands on the top of the world. Not you, not me, not even gods. But the unbearable vacancy of the throne in the sky is over. From now on...I will be sitting on it."
by MrDollarBills on Jul 8, 2010 3:53 PM EDT up reply actions
From Al again
It’s not happening. RT @JMan20: don’t u think the nets need to offer harris favors..brooklyn and russia to get cp3 and one last shot at lbj?
Outlaw??!! Really??!!
Why not hold onto salary cap space where an impact future deal may come up as for instance a deal for Chris Paul? Is Outlaw really going to have much of an impact on this team? This is not a good signing.
or at least if you're going to sign him
why for so long???
I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson
Only explanation would be a possible trade
Perhaps TWill, DJames, or CLee getting traded for a PF. Last I heard, Minny was looking for SF.
We would be stupid to include any of those players in a trade unless its for a stud
They all have talent and are young. I want to puke anytime i see those names and Favors’ involved in a mock trade.
"No one stands on the top of the world. Not you, not me, not even gods. But the unbearable vacancy of the throne in the sky is over. From now on...I will be sitting on it."
by MrDollarBills on Jul 8, 2010 3:54 PM EDT up reply actions
Draftexpress
Derrick Favors has been pretty quiet, but that doesn’t concern me at all. He’s the youngest player here, and T-Williams is not a PG at all.
So yeah, no more TWill as our PG talk. Being a playmaker and a point guard are two different things. TWill is a playmaker, not a floor general
by muwu on Jul 8, 2010 1:42 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
can you please give me the link i wanna see this for myself
God sent us a Prokhorov, an Avery, and a FAVORS!!!!.
Avery did mention him as a point guard in his interview
I think he said Point Guard skills. I’m hoping maybe he could be a C. Billups, but Isian Rider is more likely
again, bad comparison.
"No one stands on the top of the world. Not you, not me, not even gods. But the unbearable vacancy of the throne in the sky is over. From now on...I will be sitting on it."
by MrDollarBills on Jul 8, 2010 3:57 PM EDT up reply actions
I classify him as a
….2 guard with play making skills, handle, rebounding ability, and can create his own shot off of the dribble…jumpshot and decision making on defense/offense a work in progress. Constant triple double threat, I don’t understand why some folks downplay this kid. I think it’s the spongebob bookbag
"No one stands on the top of the world. Not you, not me, not even gods. But the unbearable vacancy of the throne in the sky is over. From now on...I will be sitting on it."
by MrDollarBills on Jul 8, 2010 3:57 PM EDT up reply actions
wow
this makes zero sense. We’re basically going to lock ourselves back into contracts with mediocre players? And end up a permanent mid lottery team again? This might make sense if we had a player like KD already drafted. But we don’t. This is dumbfounding.
I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson
Prokhorov was probably embarrassed yesterday
But I’m with you….I don’t agree with giving Outlaw a 5 year deal.
Its one thing to balk at overpaying one player but when you bog the cap down with questionable deals, you look foolish.
Go HOME Rod.
"No one stands on the top of the world. Not you, not me, not even gods. But the unbearable vacancy of the throne in the sky is over. From now on...I will be sitting on it."
by MrDollarBills on Jul 8, 2010 3:59 PM EDT up reply actions
Can we sign him already/? Im waiting....
"We’re the new Nets. We’re leaving the old behind and we’re in with the new. Hopefully LeBron is going to be a part of that."
-Coach Avery Johnson.
There is still hope...here is how were out for sure
We got outlaw for 7million so we still have 25million
32-7=25
if we sign both korver and thomas before james says where hes going then were not getting him but if we sign korver or thomas for less then 8.2 million were in it
25-16.7=8.3
so there is still jope and im going to have hope until he says hes going to ny chi mia or cle
also remember we need shooters for lebron so you never know im praying he shocks everyone and says im going to the nets
"Avery Johnson: Erase to Replace"
Wall2KingJames to JamesSucks
except it wouldn't make much sense for us to sign a player
at the position James plays, especially when we have a hole at pf.
I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson
actually, this lineup isn't half bad
harris/ridnour
korver/lee
outlaw/t-will
thomas/favors
lopez
at worst, it gets us another high pick next year
We aint getting Korver
Actually, I’m hearing no on Korver. Power forward is next – Ty Thomas, Scola, maybe Udonis Haslem, depending on what LBJ does.
From Al I
God sent us a Prokhorov, an Avery, and a FAVORS!!!!.
more than likely
it gets us a mid round lottery pick
I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson
350 days
God sent us a Prokhorov, an Avery, and a FAVORS!!!!.
by NJ Champ on Jul 8, 2010 1:51 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
could get Harrison Barnes, Kyrie Irving, Perry Jones, 350 days of contemplating
by Benl1 on Jul 8, 2010 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
after building up his image.... Proky
has officially become the laughing stock of the nba
writers and media shows are having a spectacle with this
if they actually end up using 20 or so million
of space, we won’t be bad enough for a top 5 pick, or good enough for the play-offs.
I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson
Worst possible situation
Taaaank! How do you guys feel about mediocrity now?
by muwu on Jul 8, 2010 1:54 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
the middle of the pack black hole
if you are right Gina……..the WORST place to be
I would hope you would support who we are. Not, who we are not. Coach Norman Dale "Hoosiers"
skill set compared to kobe
Supposed to have a huge basketball IQ.
For starters, he appears to be far more athletic than most analysts (including us) give him credit for, as he seems to be the type of player that doesn’t feel compelled to show off his explosiveness at all times, but still has all kinds of natural tools he can go to when needed. Barnes did a little bit of everything in the scrimmage we saw, playing very unselfishly, making shots from the perimeter, attacking the rim, weaving in and out of traffic, crashing the offensive glass, and making some excellent passes. Some of his finishes around the basket were extremely impressive, and he always looked calm and under control, refusing to get caught up in the playground type atmosphere that usually typifies these all-star events. His perimeter shot was a bit streaky, but this seems to be a part of his game that will develop into a great weapon for him in time.
From DraftExpress.com http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Harrison-Barnes-5705/#ixzz0t7AJ3YHE
http://www.draftexpress.com
Barnes watch starts now!
by muwu on Jul 8, 2010 1:53 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Whats taking so long?
"We’re the new Nets. We’re leaving the old behind and we’re in with the new. Hopefully LeBron is going to be a part of that."
-Coach Avery Johnson.
theyre interested in scola
he wouldnt be much cheaper than lee
"We’re the new Nets. We’re leaving the old behind and we’re in with the new. Hopefully LeBron is going to be a part of that."
-Coach Avery Johnson.
eh not really
I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson
Houston as a whole is usually a great defensive team
but Scola by himself isn’t all that special of a defensive player.
I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson
he's a better defender than any of the PFs on the market after Bosh
"No one stands on the top of the world. Not you, not me, not even gods. But the unbearable vacancy of the throne in the sky is over. From now on...I will be sitting on it."
by MrDollarBills on Jul 8, 2010 4:01 PM EDT up reply actions
he probably would be
they’re apparently more interested in nickle and diming themselves. So they’ll sign Outlaw for 5/35 and someone like Scola for 3/30 and end up spending virtually the same amount they would have spent on Lee for players who combined aren’t as impactful.
I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson
Yeah this unfortunately.
Scola is a solid layer but not up to the level of Lee and Travis is below league average….
World Series attitude, champagne bottle life, nothing every changes so tonight is like tomorrow night.
then why can't
they wait until the cba is more friendly if the players arent there then trade for some don’t over pay bench players
Since the face been revealed the game got real
Exactly.
The STUPID Kings fans are pissing and moaning that we haven’t spent our money. Petrie already said that we’re waiting for the CBA though. And it looks like we’ll have our run of the litter next year after all these teams waste their space overpaying these guys.
by caseycheesecake on Jul 8, 2010 3:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Rod Thorn needs to sent away now
I don’t know if Thorn is acting like an idiot on purpose or what, but clearly there is something STUPID going on in the Nets front office right now.
"No one stands on the top of the world. Not you, not me, not even gods. But the unbearable vacancy of the throne in the sky is over. From now on...I will be sitting on it."
by MrDollarBills on Jul 8, 2010 4:03 PM EDT up reply actions
Enough...
We know who he is, what he looks like, and that you want him.
This stuff just clogs the thread.
Please stop and thanks much.
Hey rod dont be cheap...ink lee
"We’re the new Nets. We’re leaving the old behind and we’re in with the new. Hopefully LeBron is going to be a part of that."
-Coach Avery Johnson.
Yes get Lee.
World Series attitude, champagne bottle life, nothing every changes so tonight is like tomorrow night.
andy
putting pictures in a room with this many comment just makes it lag.
Since the face been revealed the game got real
sry
"We’re the new Nets. We’re leaving the old behind and we’re in with the new. Hopefully LeBron is going to be a part of that."
-Coach Avery Johnson.
I didn't know either until I was told no big deal bro
Since the face been revealed the game got real
This really isn’t a bad situation he’s still young he fills a need and he’s versatile..my plan b: outlaw, scola, korver and Tony Allen then pursue a trade for Paul
THE BLUEPRINT FOR GREATNESS
by hoopskidd5 on Jul 8, 2010 2:07 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
me 2!!!!!!!!
"We’re the new Nets. We’re leaving the old behind and we’re in with the new. Hopefully LeBron is going to be a part of that."
-Coach Avery Johnson.
Proky's Lesson Learned
I think in this process Proky has learned a very important lesson, which is if there’s ANYBODY you shouldn’t “lowball” its your President / GM. Rumor has it that Thorn is leaving because Proky gave him a lowball offer in his contract negotiations. Clearly, this fiasco is Thorn’s way of getting back at Prokhorov. I’m not saying that Thorn intentionally sabotaged the process, however, how different to you guys think this would have turned out if (instead of asking him to take a paycut) Prokhorov would have offered Thorn a raise and he was staying on board?
No.
Let the conspiracy theories flow. Thorn seems to have once again put his personal feelings ahead of basketball. He did this when he left the young players to blow in the wind during the season by forcing Kiki to coach as punishment for his backstabbing, and now it looks like he has sabotaged our FA process as well
Again, you could smell something fishy when some HORRIBLE names for his replacement were mentioned instead of PRITCHARD.
Prokhy has embarrassed. Get your behind back to the states and take charge of your franchise, you moron.
"No one stands on the top of the world. Not you, not me, not even gods. But the unbearable vacancy of the throne in the sky is over. From now on...I will be sitting on it."
by MrDollarBills on Jul 8, 2010 4:06 PM EDT up reply actions
"has been embarrassed"
"No one stands on the top of the world. Not you, not me, not even gods. But the unbearable vacancy of the throne in the sky is over. From now on...I will be sitting on it."
by MrDollarBills on Jul 8, 2010 4:06 PM EDT up reply actions
Outlaw is a clutch player
God sent us a Prokhorov, an Avery, and a FAVORS!!!!.
by NJ Champ on Jul 8, 2010 2:12 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
superior player to Hassell
just can’t stay healthy.
Which is why the contract is pure IDIOCY. I don’t mind him on the team, but we bid against ourselves on that one. Typical Thorn stupidity.
"No one stands on the top of the world. Not you, not me, not even gods. But the unbearable vacancy of the throne in the sky is over. From now on...I will be sitting on it."
by MrDollarBills on Jul 8, 2010 4:07 PM EDT up reply actions
I can't imagine the Nets sign anyone else
Until after tonight.
There’s always that tiny tiny glimmer of hope…
Holy crap you think Outlaw's contract is bad??????????Check this out
Sources: Haywood, Mavs agree to deal
By Tim MacMahon
ESPNDallas.com
Center Brendan Haywood agreed to a six-year, $55 million deal to return to the Dallas Mavericks, according to two sources.
God sent us a Prokhorov, an Avery, and a FAVORS!!!!.
by NJ Champ on Jul 8, 2010 2:14 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
thats funny
"We’re the new Nets. We’re leaving the old behind and we’re in with the new. Hopefully LeBron is going to be a part of that."
-Coach Avery Johnson.
Hope they sold early
Betting markets now give #LeBron a 70-75% chance of signing with Heat. MSG stock down ~5%.
Shareef Number 2
Hopefully Outlaw fails the physical? Lets rescind this offer!
Don't get the contract complaints....
everyone’s obviously getting overpaid this offseason. As far as the actual player, we’re alright. He can hold the fort as a starter and eventually be an excellent role player.
Here's why...
We were led to believe that the Nets weren’t getting players for the sake of spending. Why pay a guy 5 years 35 mil for 9 points and 3 rebounds?
At the other end of the spectrum there is a minimum team salary, which is defined as 75% of the salary cap. Any team that doesn’t spend at least that much is surcharged at the end of the season, and that money is given to the players.
by muwu on Jul 8, 2010 2:29 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I can't believe we lowball Boozer(not that I really wanted him here, other than for LBJ) and then...
….bless this guy. He should hang up a picture of Rod Thorn in his house and bow before it every morning.
Well, heck there isn’t anyone we really have to worry about clearing cap room for in the next 5 years ANYWAY. This was our summer to make the splash and we FAILED.
GO HOME ROD. PROKHY WAKE UP.
"No one stands on the top of the world. Not you, not me, not even gods. But the unbearable vacancy of the throne in the sky is over. From now on...I will be sitting on it."
by MrDollarBills on Jul 8, 2010 4:09 PM EDT up reply actions
It will be interesting to watch the Heat play and how they stack up against the Celtics and the Lakers
I read that Outlaw is a good defender, he is tall,perhaps he will be a good fit at small forward. Twill is going to be an awesome player but he isnt big enough to guard big threes.
by Dan Secor on Jul 8, 2010 2:28 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Stephen A. Smith Sources got it right all along
"Avery Johnson: Erase to Replace"
Wall2KingJames to JamesSucks
Everybody made every possible prediction
Someone was bound to get it right. Not like everyone else wasn’t saying everything as well
Uh-oh
Terrence Williams TheRealTWill
We signed outlaw? 6 minutes ago via Twitterrific
by No Sleep Till Brooklyn on Jul 8, 2010 2:29 PM EDT reply actions
this means nothing
oh boy, here we go. Now that CDR is gone I guess T-Will is about to get the target put on his back.
Have fun running another kid out of town, if this is your intention folks.
"No one stands on the top of the world. Not you, not me, not even gods. But the unbearable vacancy of the throne in the sky is over. From now on...I will be sitting on it."
by MrDollarBills on Jul 8, 2010 4:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Damion James looks like he is going to be a good three man too.
by Dan Secor on Jul 8, 2010 2:30 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
I love the active signing of role players and pieces...
youth and athleticism and some shooting…
add a back up vet PG and a some rebounding…
and I’m ready to go.
This is so much more interesting than:
“LeBronageddon!”
Even some of you rabid LeBONBON lovers will realize it eventually:
we were smarter and better off after this free agency.
One person who wasn't
Is LeBron. If it’s winning a title and establishing a legacy, Chicago and New Jersey were his best bets.
He’s now #2 to Wade, and if he doesn’t win a title, will be laughed at forever.
And his brand will now teach a huge hit. I can’t believe his marketing company isn’t telling him how dumb this is.
does anyone think lebron is going to Chicago?
because if not, please stop acting like boozer going to the bulls somehow means that we no longer have a shot at lebron. its just garbage
Does anyone think hes going to have 5 yr deal with opt out after 2-3 yrs for him to come to the nets?
"Avery Johnson: Erase to Replace"
Wall2KingJames to JamesSucks
no, I think
he is gonna sign a 5 year deal with an opt out after 2 years, so that he can sign with Heaven and be with all the other Angels.
yea once they go to brooklyn and have a young team that needs a star
Since the face been revealed the game got real
yeah I think he will
It would probably be the best choice for him to stay in CLE for 2-3 years and then go to a (hopefully) solid young nets team
I think that TWill is going to be the starting two guard . Once he gets his shooting mechanics down he is going to be a terrific player. I noticed he is always fading away or sliding to the side on his jumper.
which is why...
..Lee, at this point, would be a better starter at the two. Defense and hopefully, three point shooting. If Lee goes another 2-3 month stretch where he can’t shoot, then we’ll have to make a decision on him.
Williams and James might end up starting by season’s end.
"No one stands on the top of the world. Not you, not me, not even gods. But the unbearable vacancy of the throne in the sky is over. From now on...I will be sitting on it."
by MrDollarBills on Jul 8, 2010 4:13 PM EDT up reply actions
Lets say we sign Tyrus Thomas and already have Outlaw my question is who can get the 8th seed Cavs or Nets
Harris vs Williams
Lee vs Parker
Outlaw vs Moon/whoever
Thomas vs Jamison
Lopez vs Varajo
guys its not all nets to me the cavs team can be better then our if they can get a nice SF
"Avery Johnson: Erase to Replace"
Wall2KingJames to JamesSucks
Good!
About time we get some effort around here!
HAve you read TWill's Tweet??
“We signed Outlaw?” Think he sounds confused??? HAHA!!
WHAT A MESS THIS HAS TURNED OUT TO BE…!
"We signed Outlaw?"
How can you read anything into those 3 words? Now, if it was followed by “WTF??”, I could read all kinds of stuff into that.
I am looking forward to a more spacious bandwagon, once all the cry babies jump off.
not "that" Jersey Shore...Point Pleasant, 10 refreshing miles north of Seaside.
by John at the Jersey Shore on Jul 8, 2010 2:41 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
it is a fact that they signed outlaw he already knew it so why the question mark who is he asking
Since the face been revealed the game got real
Ahhh, the question mark!
I didn’t pickup on that. Pretty conclusive.
not "that" Jersey Shore...Point Pleasant, 10 refreshing miles north of Seaside.
by John at the Jersey Shore on Jul 8, 2010 3:16 PM EDT up reply actions
YOU ARE MAKING AN ASSUMPTION
Please for the love of god folks, don’t start this twitter stalking garbage again. Leave the kid alone
"No one stands on the top of the world. Not you, not me, not even gods. But the unbearable vacancy of the throne in the sky is over. From now on...I will be sitting on it."
by MrDollarBills on Jul 8, 2010 4:14 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah. You could then sign Nate and they could do some kind of circus dunk act at halftime.
"...where they don't play with a shot clock." - C. Sager
by kv on Jul 8, 2010 2:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Chris Pual Joins Lebron James
http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news?slug=ys-paullebron070810
I feel a trade announcement coming tonight. Chris Paul and Lebron james join forces on the Nets!
Chris Paul Joins Lebron James
http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news?slug=ys-paullebron070810
I feel a trade announcement coming tonight. Chris Paul and Lebron james join forces on the Nets!
I think we have gotten longer more athletic
And have become better defensively if we stay healthy I’m 100% sure we make the playoffs, I think Coaching makes all the difference, if we get Scola would be real nice, but Thomas would help out as well, I love the fact that we have couple of 6’6-6’9 swing men who can all play.
mike miller was only offered a 5 year 27 million contract.
Since the face been revealed the game got real
Yeah but like I have said
you knew this was coming when these guys agreed to all go to Miami.
Others will sign on for less just to be part of this. If we offer anything to miller he is going to ask for me to compensate for “coming to Newark.”
This threads too long to check, but
what’s up with the Heat offer to Miller? They would not do that if they knew.
"...where they don't play with a shot clock." - C. Sager
D'Antoni sounded big time that Lebron was NOT coming to the Knicks. 1050
"...where they don't play with a shot clock." - C. Sager
by kv on Jul 8, 2010 2:45 PM EDT up reply actions
mike miller was only offered a 5 year 27 million contract
Since the face been revealed the game got real
There is no room for the big three and Miller, unless they ALL take big discounts.
"...where they don't play with a shot clock." - C. Sager
by kv on Jul 8, 2010 2:46 PM EDT up reply actions
That would be interesting. 12 mill each?
"...where they don't play with a shot clock." - C. Sager
by kv on Jul 8, 2010 2:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Room for 3 max AND Korver? No
"...where they don't play with a shot clock." - C. Sager
by kv on Jul 8, 2010 2:49 PM EDT up reply actions
i mean Miller.
"...where they don't play with a shot clock." - C. Sager
by kv on Jul 8, 2010 2:49 PM EDT up reply actions
They must LOVE Miller.
I wonder who they think on their team is going to guard Bynum or Dwight?
"...where they don't play with a shot clock." - C. Sager
by kv on Jul 8, 2010 2:50 PM EDT up reply actions
For the minimum?
Shaq can’t guard either of them though.
"...where they don't play with a shot clock." - C. Sager
by kv on Jul 8, 2010 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions
Beasley
Why can we get Beasley for nothing from Heat? Can Avery straighten this guy???
1050 just reported a 3 way deal for Beasley to the Rockets.
"...where they don't play with a shot clock." - C. Sager
by kv on Jul 8, 2010 2:47 PM EDT up reply actions
Lee-Randolph sign and trade supposedly done in principle
great move by the Knicks.
"...where they don't play with a shot clock." - C. Sager
by kv on Jul 8, 2010 2:52 PM EDT up reply actions
agreed, they get back a player with a lot of potential, damn the nets, why havent they gone after these guys like randolph
Randolph is 20. Apparently a bit of a difficult personality, but he is what the Nets PRAY Favors grows into.
"...where they don't play with a shot clock." - C. Sager
by kv on Jul 8, 2010 3:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Plus Turiaf is a really good back up PF
All hustle and very good on the bench.
"...where they don't play with a shot clock." - C. Sager
by kv on Jul 8, 2010 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions
exactly
All of this TT talk is sickening
"No one stands on the top of the world. Not you, not me, not even gods. But the unbearable vacancy of the throne in the sky is over. From now on...I will be sitting on it."
by MrDollarBills on Jul 8, 2010 4:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Scola and Tyrus may be out as well
Rockets are supposedly willing to match any offer for Scola, the Bobcats are supposedly going after Scola or their own Tyrus. With Houston matching anything, Bobcats could match anything for Tyrus too. So… Haslem?
get scola and korver
then this offseason might not turn out as bad as it could have.
Why did they
Why did the Nets take Outlaw over Josh Howard? Doesn’t make sense to me.
Howard is out till
December at least after the surgery and he is a headcase…..
??
you can’t be a racist if your a minority. right??
Out of those 2,
Outlaw is the right move I just think they payed to much.
Since the face been revealed the game got real
by BL3ACH on Jul 8, 2010 2:58 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
you can’t be a racist if your a minority
ummm, no, you sure can
No one is better than someone.
Am I think only one who thinks this? We’re hurting our chances at getting a top rated draft pick next year.
not coming out.
"...where they don't play with a shot clock." - C. Sager
by kv on Jul 8, 2010 2:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Due to possible lockout?
The fear of injury will always be there. Willie Warren would’ve been a lottery pick had he declared last year instead of a 2nd rounder today. There’s a looot of people pressuring these guys to go in, and they always do. People said the same thing about Oden, Wall, etc they all went out anyway
No. He’s not coming out because he is all about school. If you listen to him being interviewed he is VERY into what he is majoring, and sounds like a guy who is probably going to stay even 3 years. The guy is high-character.
Plus NC doesn’t accept one and done guys.
"...where they don't play with a shot clock." - C. Sager
by kv on Jul 8, 2010 3:26 PM EDT up reply actions
Nah, that's what they allll say
Oden was a smart guy who liked college too. You’re not giving up a number 1 selection for that
I guess you have never heard him interviewed.
"...where they don't play with a shot clock." - C. Sager
by kv on Jul 8, 2010 3:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Not to be too harsh, but when someone says “Don’t bother me with the details, I’ve got my mind made up.” What is that worth?
"...where they don't play with a shot clock." - C. Sager
by kv on Jul 8, 2010 3:47 PM EDT up reply actions
I mean, just saying, I heard the exact same things about Greg Oden
Not a single soul projects that he won’t be coming out next year, because no one does that. You can’t say he’s got his mind made up already.
Until you hear him speak (and he is NOT saying he is staying in school) we can’t really have a discussion. He is just a different sort of fellow. He has a plan on how to become a great, great player, he is thinking very long term, and has a super head on his shoulders.
You are talking in abstracts.
"...where they don't play with a shot clock." - C. Sager
by kv on Jul 8, 2010 4:14 PM EDT up reply actions
And yes, there have been cases of people shrugging off possibly being the 1st pick in the draft. David Robinson had a chance to press for release for the draft (with very good arguments), but instead accepted his Naval service which cut well into this NBA and earning potential
"...where they don't play with a shot clock." - C. Sager
by kv on Jul 8, 2010 4:18 PM EDT up reply actions
He was still drafted first, but he gave up 2 years for his commitment.
"...where they don't play with a shot clock." - C. Sager
by kv on Jul 8, 2010 4:19 PM EDT up reply actions
yes you are
i’m sick of watching this team lose. one day it’s gotta stop. nice to see the team trying.
Look at the teams that build through the draft. It takes years to acquire top talent. Chances are, you need to be in the high lotto to build a good contender. The talent at the top of the draft should trump anyone we sign right now given 2 years. Whoever we sign now just eats cap space and can’t really get that much better.
by head_hunter on Jul 8, 2010 3:04 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I was thinking Tyrus just from the perspective of physical ability. If the coach could push his buttons he could dominate, and I think the same with Outlaw. I think the Nets are hoping that Avery Johnson can bring out the best in Outlaw. maybe he could pull it off with Outlaw and Thomas.
Tyrus
Larry Brown couldn’t push his buttons. You think Avery would?
okay....................... WHAT?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!
God sent us a Prokhorov, an Avery, and a FAVORS!!!!.
when avery johnson wins an NBA title without a single hall-of-famer on the team
we can talk about who he is in comparison to larry brown. hell, an nba title period. even an NCAA champ will do.
So what he’s won a title? The Pistons would have won with or without him. He didnt do a damn thing with anything else, and he ROYALLY dropped the ball with the olympic team.
if we're gonna start assuming what teams would've been able to do without their coaches
as if we have any way of really knowing such a thing, then there’s nothing to really discuss here.
You never know, Avery Johnson is a former player. He is a different personality and may be able to influence the younger players better that old school Larry Brown
by Dan Secor on Jul 8, 2010 2:58 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
So we we ending up with next year
Perry Jones, Enes Kanter or Harrison Barnes?
by BEBESTER on Jul 8, 2010 2:58 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
If NYK realized after meeting with LeBron that their chances weren’t good, they probably went to David Lee immediately regarding the S&T to the warriors. Fans have this weird misconception that if you didn’t get _ player, you must not have tried. Lee’s not gonna give up his sixth year when he could just as well get that and still get to live in San Francisco. Also, Boozer was on Mike and Mike after Utah was eliminated, talking up Chicago and saying that Michael Jordan’s shadow wouldn’t deter free agents. I think they were his plan all along. Memphis and Atlanta gave max deals to Gay and JJ without thinking twice. NYK gave Amare the most they possibly could. If LeBron really goes to Miami with Wade and Bosh, this thing is looking more and more like it was pre-determined from the very beginning, to which case, I don’t see what the Nets could’ve done differently.
by shane gayle on Jul 8, 2010 2:58 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Thomas out Scola in
Rumored trade sends Chandler to Houston as part of three way deal between Charlotte Houston and Miami. Bobcats get Beasley.
Not sure what this means. Would Houston pay three big men, big money and match for Scola or are they conceding
Bobcats would now have Beasley, Wallace, Jackson, Diop signed long term. Who would play center? Thomas?
Off topic
Chris Paul just severed ties with his agent according to ESPN.
by diehardNFFLbarnone on Jul 8, 2010 4:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Interesting.
"...where they don't play with a shot clock." - C. Sager
by kv on Jul 8, 2010 4:12 PM EDT up reply actions
So yea...
Why are we angling for Tyrus Thomas. Let’s try to get the other guy in that draft via trade – LeMarcus Aldridge.
1000 Comments
seriously people. get back to work.
the employment rate of Net’s fan will plummet after this week of ZERO productivity during business hours
Proky
He low-balled Rod on the contract extension. A more stable organization would have enticed the better free agents.
Incorrect.
Rod said he knew it was time to leave, but that he was NOT retiring.
by No Sleep Till Brooklyn on Jul 8, 2010 3:09 PM EDT up reply actions
Thorn has played the good soldier.
But if you listen to him speak, he is not retiring.
He said, after 10 years with an organization, sometimes you just have to move on.
by No Sleep Till Brooklyn on Jul 8, 2010 3:15 PM EDT up reply actions
some things
1) Korver is NOT coming. He was on the list, but the Nets decided Outlaw was a better deal…had more dimensions. Dave D was correct. Kerber has adjusted his blog to reflect that Korver isn’t coming.
2) The Nets will have to pay out a minimum of $43.5 million in salaries. Just as there is a salary cap, there is a salary minimum. They will surpass that.
3) The day is young. You will probably see other things later today.
Hey Net Income
Can you start a new open thred? In this one is lag is real bad
Since the face been revealed the game got real
Just to say
CP3 joining LeBron’s marketing agency is such a dumb move. Sure they managed to generate buzz about LeBron but do they not see how much hate they generated for him? LeBron’s one of the most hated players out there right now because of all these marketing stunts. Is that supposed to be a job well done?
The nest thing about LBJ going elsewhere...
…is I can go back to hating him!
not "that" Jersey Shore...Point Pleasant, 10 refreshing miles north of Seaside.
by John at the Jersey Shore on Jul 8, 2010 3:20 PM EDT up reply actions
best
not "that" Jersey Shore...Point Pleasant, 10 refreshing miles north of Seaside.
by John at the Jersey Shore on Jul 8, 2010 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions
who says he wants to play here. Shaq will never want to come to a rebuilding team especially this late in his career. if he comes he will just be a distraction and will probably lack effort and be very lazy.
shaq wants to play for Spurs or Hawks
http://nba.fanhouse.com/2010/07/07/source-shaq-prefers-spurs-wants-to-play-two-more-seasons/?synd=1
those are contending teams
wow, the Big Fundamental pairing up with the Big Aristotle. Long in tooth, but I think Duncan will want to kill him by mid season.
"...where they don't play with a shot clock." - C. Sager
by kv on Jul 8, 2010 3:29 PM EDT up reply actions
What on earth are you rambling about
I said Shaq wants to play in Newark. That’s it. Give it a rest.
I want Tyrus Thomas
Even though I don’t think we will be that good next year even if we get Thomas at least we will be really young and really athletic. We will have a fun team to watch with a lot of sick dunkers ( Twill, Favors, Outlaw) already there. At least that will keep me watching just like I started watching Nets basketball again after Twill got his minutes up the last month.
I think Thomas can be a Josh Smith type player if he has good coaching and keeps his head straight. Avery got the best out of Josh Howard so I think he can get the best out of Thomas also
Sign anyone to keep Favors off the floor this year, honestly.
"...where they don't play with a shot clock." - C. Sager
by kv on Jul 8, 2010 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions
why would you want to keep Favors off of the floor?
And why would you guys champion someone who isn’t even better than Yi?
"No one stands on the top of the world. Not you, not me, not even gods. But the unbearable vacancy of the throne in the sky is over. From now on...I will be sitting on it."
by MrDollarBills on Jul 8, 2010 4:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Because if Favors is on the floor too (+20 mins) much he is going to be exposed as having no game whatsoever, and he development will suffer.
"...where they don't play with a shot clock." - C. Sager
by kv on Jul 8, 2010 4:29 PM EDT up reply actions
I actually would like 2 FA PFs and just keep Favors on the bench this year, learning in practice.
"...where they don't play with a shot clock." - C. Sager
by kv on Jul 8, 2010 4:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Playoffs are a half court game
Miller – Blake
Wade – Kobe
Lebron – Artest
Bosh – Gasol
???? – Bynum
Miller – Nelson
Wade – Barnes
Lebron – Carter
Bosh – Lewis
???? – Dwight
"...where they don't play with a shot clock." - C. Sager
Yes. Player coach.
"...where they don't play with a shot clock." - C. Sager
by kv on Jul 8, 2010 3:44 PM EDT up reply actions
It would be funny, but I’m not even sure he could solve their problems
"...where they don't play with a shot clock." - C. Sager
by kv on Jul 8, 2010 3:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Barring injury.
They won’t have problems.
World Series attitude, champagne bottle life, nothing every changes so tonight is like tomorrow night.
WHO is going to guard centers?
"...where they don't play with a shot clock." - C. Sager
by kv on Jul 8, 2010 4:32 PM EDT up reply actions
hahah have fun with that!!!
That team will implode by march
maybe we can get lucky and nab James or Wade after they demand a trade
stupid
"No one stands on the top of the world. Not you, not me, not even gods. But the unbearable vacancy of the throne in the sky is over. From now on...I will be sitting on it."
by MrDollarBills on Jul 8, 2010 4:28 PM EDT up reply actions
Here's a comment from my friend in Portland - serious blazers fan
From the perspective of a Nets fan, you sholdn’t be too picky.
Travis’ leaping ability and speed can leave you breathless. He learned to shoot a mid-range jumper, and he was dynamite coming off the bench. Remember we’ve known him since he was 17, and tolerated a lot of his bad decision-making; but, over time, the positives now far outweigh the negatives. In Portland, we’d love to have him back…but he may want to start somewhere. He needs a coach that pays a lot of attention to him.
Stephen A. smith
said he is sure Lebron is going to miami…. a 5 yr contract… with a opt out clause in 3 yrs
so he’ll probably join the Nets in Brooklyn……but he’ll come to New York City
i believe him……and i thnk that its disgusting if our team is held hostage again by Lebron
we shouldn't allow ourselves to be held hostage by him
he spit in our faces. Why should we even worry about him now? He’s a front running clown
When he fails in Miami, hopefully by the we’ll have so much talent that we can tell Lebron to go blow in the wind.
I have a feeling Lebron will end up sharing the same fate as Malone, Stockton, Ewing, and Barkley. It would serve him right.
"No one stands on the top of the world. Not you, not me, not even gods. But the unbearable vacancy of the throne in the sky is over. From now on...I will be sitting on it."
by MrDollarBills on Jul 8, 2010 4:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Here's A Bad Omen from The Real Deal
from The Real Deal New York – Latest News by Candace Taylor
At 9 p.m. tonight, fans will find out whether basketball legend LeBron James will join the New York Knicks. In the meantime, one thing is for sure: he’s been scoping out chic pads in the city. (See slide show above of homes that could be suitable for James.) The Cleveland Cavaliers star has checked out apartments at 40 Mercer Street in Soho and the Time Warner Center, real estate agents told The Real Deal, and other buildings he’s likely considering include 15 Central Park West and Superior Ink. Meanwhile, broker-to-the-stars Dolly Lenz told the New York Post hat she showed James the 23 Perry Street townhouse where Billy Joel and his ex-wife, Katie Lee, previously lived.
well i know a lot of people
who know that lebron is doing this for attention. And this will make a lot of people not pay attention which is the opposite of what he wants
Since the face been revealed the game got real
There is going to be serious backlash on Lebron
"...where they don't play with a shot clock." - C. Sager
by kv on Jul 8, 2010 4:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Lebron's rep is already shot bro
Between quitting on the Cavs during the playoffs and now playing these…CHILDISH….games…and on top of that spitting in Jay Z’s face, good luck to him. He’s going to look like a piece of trash tonight. It’s crazy how within a few months Lebron’s rep worldwide will be lower than Kobe, who was charged with rape a few years ago.
"No one stands on the top of the world. Not you, not me, not even gods. But the unbearable vacancy of the throne in the sky is over. From now on...I will be sitting on it."
by MrDollarBills on Jul 8, 2010 4:42 PM EDT up reply actions
BOTH of their reputations, ALONG with those of Wade and Bosh, are ALREADY WAY LOWER than that of Kevin Durant.
by diehardNFFLbarnone on Jul 8, 2010 5:08 PM EDT up reply actions
Kevin Durant is a stud with his head on straight
Bron, Bosh, Wade…they act like little girls.
"No one stands on the top of the world. Not you, not me, not even gods. But the unbearable vacancy of the throne in the sky is over. From now on...I will be sitting on it."
by MrDollarBills on Jul 8, 2010 6:01 PM EDT up reply actions
I want James to come to the Knicks
-Just so Lee can sign with the Nets.
And drill the Knicks every chance he gets.
Not being loyal to hard workers is a MuthaF—
You go Kristie Kenney (former US ambassador to the Philippines)
Am I the only one who is tired of the LeBron future hype? He is a great ballplayer. So just tell us where he goes and stop all the drama.
A must read!
Very accurate description of Travis Outlaw.
It cuts through all the hip that will cluster to a new pickup.
the only good thing about this
is i can say “i told you so” do all the people telling me how smart rod thorn was clearing all of that cap room by dumping VC. last year was brutal torture. for what? derek favors & travis outlaw and a couple more scrubs to be named later.
Vince curled up into a ball and begged for his mother during the playoffs
I’m fine with him in orlando, thanks.
"No one stands on the top of the world. Not you, not me, not even gods. But the unbearable vacancy of the throne in the sky is over. From now on...I will be sitting on it."
by MrDollarBills on Jul 8, 2010 4:43 PM EDT up reply actions
I would love this - dont want Tyrus
Trade for Andrei Kirilenko – only one year left on that contract.
by nazem275 on Jul 8, 2010 4:23 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
He is not going to Miami
Way too easy….anyone ever think the rentals in South Beach were just to throw people off to his real destination(Clevland). He has everyone going back and forth on this for amusement. Either way I’ve kinda grown a less fond of him.
Kinda?
I never wanted LeBron James and hope he stays in Cleveland or goes to Miami. Just not to the Nets and especially not the Knicks.
Jay’s house is practically next to where Bron’s making the announcement tonight. Pick up on the clues.
are you going to continue to post on here
when we don’t get LBJ?
-Say man when I was growing up we wanted a Jacuzzi, we had to fart in the tub.
you know...
lebron’s team has been dropping little tidbits to the media all along… playing up the hype. getting him his own show. lebron’s leaning this way. lebron’s like this city. lebron’s vacaying here afterward. its all hype to get RATINGS tonight.
none of this however will change his original decision, which is to become a New Jersey Net.
NO, it’s to go to Chicago! I have been trying to get to this point across ever since we refused to wait on Jackson or Calipari.
by diehardNFFLbarnone on Jul 8, 2010 5:07 PM EDT up reply actions
knowing what i know now
i think it would rather have had amare or boozer. i don’t think amare will help the knicks win that many more ballgames, however, i think he would’ve fit nicely in with us. same with boozer.
bottom line, if you’re going to clear cap space and be horrid – when the time comes to get an All-Star, get an All-Star.
i could change my mind on this in 5, but this is what i’m thinking now…
I've been a Nets fan since we drafted Mookie....
and watching BB since then. This is waaaaaaayyyyy over the top. To the point where it is sickening. He has destroyed his image no matter what. If he goes anywhere but Clevland there will be 5 teams that hate him(us, Knicks, Bulls, Clippers and Cavs) for playing them. The fans will sour on him too. Talk about a narcicist.
what i still don't get is...
people are talking like all of our targets have been dwindling away, when in reality, we’ve had one target all along, and we’ve had him in our cross-hairs the entire time.
it was lebron or bust
JUST THE WAY LEBRON LIKES IT. we gave him all he could ask for. we have pieces in place that rival if not CRUSH any of his other options.
i hate to say it, but we pandered to the guy… we gave the crying baby the pacifier.
and that baby will reward us tonight.
when we LOST???
you’re talking about something that hasn’t happened yet (and won’t) as if it already did.
get a hold of yourself
For what it's worth....
This is the guy we want to see tonight
Deadspin says David Amber is going to be in East Rutherford talking to Jay-Z should we get Lebron. Seeing how it’s deadspin it could be a complete joke of course, but it sounds credible enough
http://deadspin.com/5582635/espn-deploys-lebron-sad-trombonevictory-reporting-team-just-in-case-chris-broussard-is-completely—wrong?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+deadspin%2Ffull+%28Deadspin%29
Ugh
I had to live through Outlaw when I was following the Blazers. He’s a nice instant offense guy but he’s a terrible team player. Hopefully his good outweighs his bad because he’s very Al Harrington-ish. Expect to see a LOT of contested fadeaway jumpers. He’s a good kid but 7 million is too much. I wonder what his other offers were considering he’s had back to back terrible years.
BTW, Portland thought he was better at PF. Take that for what its worth.
Wow, what a traitor if true
JalenRose – Sources tell me that Jay-Z just purchased 2 courtside tickets to the Miami Heat home games this season..(hmmm)
LOL!!
You are funny.
If I was Jay-Z with all the money in the world, I have no problem blowing $80K+ on season tickets.
He probably has a condo on South Beach too.
So what. He goes to Knicks games too.
Relax!!!!! How do you know he didnt do that to go to games when The Nets are down there.
Dave D
Unless something is eluding us, there is no option right now other than Tyrus Thomas, which is not much of an option.
The Nets have no chance at Luis Scola. Somebody already called Daryl Moray and he told them as much: Pitch him a front-loaded offer sheet at your own peril, he said. We’ll tie you up for a week, and you’ll end up with nothing.
They have virtually no chance at Udonis Haslem. "A potential shot," someone in the organization says, but someone is going to overspend like crazy for him ($9M per? $10M per?) because he’s the only unrestricted left.
Al Harrington? Not a four, really.
So that leaves Tyrus, which doesn’t exactly float your boat, but he’s the only one left who plays above the rim.
And if they haven’t done it already, they’re likely to drop an offer sheet on agent Brian Elfus by the end of the day – and the numbers on it will go a long way toward illustrating this team’s desperation.
Going in, they already know that the Bobcats have offered Tyrus the entire midlevel. That’s a knee-slapper. He’s not worth more than a two-year deal, for reasons we’ll annotate if or when it becomes necessary.
Since everyone is gone(for now), i’ll just tell you guys this: I have many theories about Bron and why I think he’ll be here tonight, but let me just say:
I don’t think Prokhorov and Jay want to make fools of themselves with that billboard. You really think they’d take that risk? I don’t.
Why would Thorn write a chapter about Bron in his book? He didn’t give a chapter to Jordan or Kidd, yet he gives one to a player on another team? I don’t think so.
The Nets have been too quiet about this. I mean, you have $32M to spend, and all of a sudden, Thorn’s an idiot? No. I think Bron and his people set this up. Grow with the team, keep adding a star every year.
Prokhorov could have been lucky predicting Bosh and Wade. Then again, he might be fooling us all, and he knows things we don’t. It seems kinda odd the one network(I don’t have to tell you who it is, you already know) that hates us leaks the story? That’s just scary.
the success of the billboard shouldn't be tied to LeBron
The team can have a plan to contend for a championship regardless.
The plan failed.
The plan was Proky being able to sway top tier free agents to the Nets. He said that would make the Nets an instant playoff team with a championship in 5 years.
When LeBron says Miami the plan has failed.
World Series attitude, champagne bottle life, nothing every changes so tonight is like tomorrow night.
Not a failure at all
So premature to conclude that way.
There’s a plan, a blueprint, so to speak.
They somehow expected that there’s chance that the Nets will strike out.
It delayed the goal, but every move to be made is toward accomplishing the ultimate goal … a championship.
And they gave themselves 5 years. So, what’s the rush?
The team will be very athletic but wont be able to hit any 3 pointers.
Harris
lee
outlaw
Thoma
lopez
Twill
djames
favors
hump
Very athletic team. Needs shooter and backup pg.
what a jerk!
Madison Square Garden Chairman James Dolan insinuated that by choosing Miami, James didn’t have the fortitude to handle the spotlight in New York. “It takes courage to play where the lights shine the brightest,” Dolan said, according to the report.
Paul from Delray Beach
Travis .....
Is an excellent Player…We wanted him a couple of years ago…..He will do well here….
Lee S&T Talks are PREMATURE, no one can be trusted anymore!
Agent Says Reports Of Lee S&T Are Premature
Read more: http://realgm.com/src_wiretap_archives/67990/20100708/agent_says_reports_of_lee_s&t_are_premature/#ixzz0t8FaEEL4
OK,, i’m sure you saw the David Amber thing, and the link to it. I e-mailed the author of the story to see if it was fake. He said it’s true. I’m not joking. I’m dead serious, but to show you, i’d need one of your e-mail addresses to forward it.
do we all have to give you addresses to get the story?
-Say man when I was growing up we wanted a Jacuzzi, we had to fart in the tub.
Rotoworld.com has a report that Lebron isnt expect to make an announcement in the first 15 mins of the show
What does this tell me he isnt going to Miami if he was going to miami wouldnt he just come out and say it since everyone knows already
i have hope and i still think its believe the cle vs nyk vs nj
"Avery Johnson: Erase to Replace"
Wall2KingJames to JamesSucks
The Outlaw signing leaves the Nets with $25.4 million in cap space and gives them 11 players (two partially guaranteed) under contract. Chad Ford reports that the Nets intend to use all but $10 million of their original $32 million cap stash and may explore trades as well. He also suggests that the team is still choosing between Thomas or Luis Scola of the Rockets who is also a restricted free agent.
So sounds like they’re going to lay low and hold a grip for a rainy day.
Lopez/Zoubek
TT or Scola/Humphries/Favors
Outlaw/D.James
Lee/Twill/Q.Ross
Devin/Uzoh
I can ride with that lineup. Go Nets!!!
What a joke
We settle for Outlaw and overpay him. I would have rather gotten Josh Howard and he still sucks lol
And DJames maybe better than Outlaw, all around, by the end of the season, but Nets would still have to pay Outlaw for 4 more years.
Maybe Thorn is going to Golden State.
We never figured out what he was going to do, as he said he wasn’t retiring.
chadfordinsider
David Lee has now agreed to a 6 year, $80 mil deal with the Warriors via a sign-and-trade with the Knicks. Link is coming …
by No Sleep Till Brooklyn on Jul 8, 2010 9:44 PM EDT reply actions
I cant believe it
We cant even sign AK?
Gosh….Cant believe it…………
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