$32 Million and No One to Take It
by Net Income on Jul 8, 2010 5:15 AM EDT
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The salary cap figures are out and the Nets now have $32 million--$31.929 million to be specific--in cap space with 10 players under contract (two partially guaranteed). If this was July 1, that would be a good thing, but it's about to turn into July 8. Not so good.
After striking out on Carlos Boozer, it now appears that David Lee won't be available either. Unless LeBron James chooses the Knicks, he'll likely be dealt in a sign-and-trade to the Warriors as early as Friday. The hope that James will choose the Nets is now very unlikely, with the the betting be he'll either stay in Cleveland or head to MIami to join the other Golden Ones.
So what do the Nets do now? They could try to overpower Lee with a big salary offer ($76 million over five years) but that's not likely. There's no panic in East Rutherford. It's stay the course, be patient. "I think at the end of the day the New York Knicks and Chicago had to overspend on players," a Nets official said. "We are not in the same situation as either team."
And there are still more than 125 free agents out there--and Adrian Wojnarowski reports the Nets may move quickly on three of them: Tyrus Thomas, Travis Outlaw and Kyle Korver.
- Nets stunned by Carlos Boozer's decision to sign with Bulls - Dave D'Alessandro - Star-Ledger
- It's the ROC - Stefan Bondy - The InterNets
- After losing out on Wade and Bosh, Nets don't see their hopes as LeBron or bust - Tom Canavan - AP
- Free-agent buzz: Nets assess options - Adrian Wojnarowski - Yahoo! Sports
- Knicks and Nets Prepare for Life After LeBron Decision - Scott Cacciola - Wall Street Journal
- LeBron's options: Money or dynasty? - Charley Rosen - FOX Sports
- Warriors close to trading Anthony Randolph to Knicks for David Lee - Marcus Thompson II - Contra Costa Times
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oh well
that Mike Bee deal looking better now huh
by killa kadafi191 on Jul 7, 2010 9:21 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
id take beasley at this point id take anyone that is capable of making us better.
right now we have no one starting at PF and oh no one at SF either
by Henry Sanchez on Jul 7, 2010 9:25 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Nets front office is delusional
seriously we are going to re-live another 12 win season, they need to get David lee somehow.
Also if theyre determined not to overpay then dont spend capspace on Tyrus Thomas as was rumored, he sucks!
if its a 2yr deal then im fine w. it but Thomas will get 5yrs from someone better not be us
by Henry Sanchez on Jul 7, 2010 9:24 PM EDT up reply actions
The re will be no 12 win season! Just relax already!
I feel sad when man behaves like a woman. And there are so many like that among Nets fans. Shame!
Coaching MAY get us up to 20-25.
There is no way this roster wins any more than that.
by No Sleep Till Brooklyn on Jul 7, 2010 9:27 PM EDT up reply actions
How
By stating the obvious a 12 win team makes no improvement. Yea playoffs here we come. Yeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
by killa kadafi191 on Jul 7, 2010 9:28 PM EDT up reply actions
People are lost
We are going to fill in spots you dopes. This is a process. At this point do you really want a broken down Boozer and overhyped David Lee. We will right in the mix for the 8th seed and if not big deal. Go to lottery and keep building. Look at OKCITY. And watch Damian James. STEAL
Look at OKC
they have a MVP type player rookie of the year and all star player.
Do we have one of those on our team??
by killa kadafi191 on Jul 7, 2010 9:35 PM EDT up reply actions
Not just Durant, their PG is killer.
by No Sleep Till Brooklyn on Jul 7, 2010 9:36 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah and they got him
by being horrible and picking in the lottery for like 3 straight years.
You guys are acting like they had these players before they started rebuilding. They got them by sticking to the plan and not overpaying for mediocre improvements that wouldn’t lead to a championship but would keep them picking in mediocre draft spots. If Presti had followed the plan you guys want, overpay for non impact players, they wouldn’t have Westbrook or Durant.
I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson
by Gina on Jul 7, 2010 9:37 PM EDT up reply actions 4 recs
Yeah, but Gina, I feel as if your plan is to just sit here and hope a Durant type of player falls into our lap. That’s why the dang Thunder are good, they got Durant and got lucky with Westbrook.
by Tim823 on Jul 7, 2010 9:39 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
no we made the effort to go after the guys like Wade and Lebron
those are the ONLY players worth chasing in this FA. Those are the only “durant” type players. So once again explain to me how you would have landed a durant type player. Amar’e, Boozer, are no where near that and not worth the money they’re being paid.
I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson
by Gina on Jul 7, 2010 9:41 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Wade and Lebron
Those 2 are franchise players for contenders. Same does not apply to Lee Bosh Boozer, Amare.
by PigDaddy3 on Jul 7, 2010 11:29 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
@ Gina
All of what you said is true, but you must admit they got incredibly lucky with both Durant and Westbrook.
" I'm really excited to take the worst team in the league and turn it to be the best in the league." --Mikhail Prokhorov.
by Claud on Jul 7, 2010 9:40 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I do
but chasing low impact players and being a 40 win team isn’t going to make us any more likely to get an all-star type player. If anything it makes us less likely. They did everything they could to try and land Lebron/Wade without totally sacrificing the future. I don’t understand what else people expected.
I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson
by Gina on Jul 7, 2010 9:42 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
You admit its a whole lot of luck… so I see it like this… wait around and hope to get lucky, or maybe put a 40 win team together and attract other guys who want to play for a team that doesnt suck. We are not appealing.
Except to be a 40 win team we'd likely spend all our cap space
on non impact players. We tried being the 40 win team for years and it never worked.
I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson
by Gina on Jul 7, 2010 9:45 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
really how?
get lucky with what?
I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson
by Gina on Jul 7, 2010 9:49 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Get lucky with working what you have, maybe add just 1 piece… something can gel. Its better then your plan, which appears to be nothing at all but hope we get lucky in the draft.
really cause it worked so well for like 7 years right?
when we were a 40 win team always claiming to be one piece away? Those teams are nothing but permanent dream chasers.
I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson
by Gina on Jul 7, 2010 9:54 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
no i blame it mostly on RJ's terrible contract
but Carters didn’t help. We overpaid for players who weren’t worth the money at the time.
I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson
by Gina on Jul 7, 2010 9:57 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I agree.. we tried to go for the money ball (LBJ) but missed... now we stick to the youth movement.
Also we can still do trades… trades are the best things for improving a team overnight… if you don’t believe me, look at the lakers and celtics. We mus hope that if we don’t make the playoffs next year, that I least we get a good player in the draft…
" I'm really excited to take the worst team in the league and turn it to be the best in the league." --Mikhail Prokhorov.
+1 million
Totally agree with Gina.
If the Nets don’t pick up a difference-maker in free agency—the kind of player who takes you to the playoffs—then sit back, fill in some support holes and look forward to Anthony in 2011 and possible trades and future drafts.
Don’t get desperate and sentence yourself to being a 40-win mediocrity just to make yourself feel better about being the worst team in what’s now the past.
by NetsJetsFan on Jul 8, 2010 11:12 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
you know how they got that player?
by sticking to their rebuilding plan rather than running around overpaying for limited impact players.
I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson
by Gina on Jul 7, 2010 9:36 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
The Pittsburgh Pirates have been rebuilding for 20 years.
Just because you are rebuilding, doesn’t mean it will work.
by No Sleep Till Brooklyn on Jul 7, 2010 9:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Rebuilding in the MLB is totally diff. One player can turn a whole team in NBA. Favors could be that guy/
by ShawnG on Jul 7, 2010 9:44 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I agree.
But how do help a quality prospect develop?
Put hardworking, talented players around him.
Not Tyrus Thomas.
by No Sleep Till Brooklyn on Jul 7, 2010 9:50 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
I'll x3 this
if they actually sign Tyrus Thomas I’ll pull out the pitchforks with you guys. The last thing we need is more young upside head cases. We should either try to get some useful veterans on expiring contracts or sign veterans to short term deals.
I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson
by Gina on Jul 7, 2010 9:51 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Upside headcases take the longest to develop
Chris Weber
Rasheed Wallace
Ron Artest
Even as knuckle heads, those guys always had skills that Thomas couldn’t dream about.
by No Sleep Till Brooklyn on Jul 7, 2010 9:55 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
EXACTLY
which is why you put D. Lee in with him.. i dont see wtf is so hard for the nets front office… freakin incredible, you have the money..which is meant for spending.. Are their gonna be any FAs next year worth targeting ? If not, I have no idea what the nets are doing
KIlla I always respected your postes
Please, do kneel to the level of those “paniquers” who run with the crowd and shout with the crowd without using the grey matter called brain.
We didn’t land big name FA, but we didn’t break foundation: Lopez, T-Will, Favors, C-Lee will all become better as players and as a team. There will always be tomorrow with new FAs hitting the market. If we stay the course we will progress and become better. If we panic and sign someone for the sake of signing – we’re a toast. I will be first in line bashing front office who doesn’t know what they’re doing. Nets wanted Lebron, they lost. Move on and enjoy the game and growth of our kids. Cheers!
Nets have nothing concete
We ca’t base it off cap space for next year either. You can’t reuibld on trying to sign other peoples players won’t work. No one good next year anyway after extensions. We can try and get lucky in the draft but thats didn’t work either. A trade may be the only sure fire way to turn this team around. If only we could get a good one.
+1 I agree
Stop all the whinning. Crying about a bunch of overpriced Divas with count them 1 Championship ring between 4 “studs”. Derrick Fisher is a free agent and he has 5. Brian Scalabrine even has one…lol.
The game is won on the floor lets just root for our team in its new venues with new players
The NETS are coming!
We should emulate the Thunder from 08-09
That should be our goal this season. Strong teaching and improvement each third of the season. End the season strong, draft to fill our SF hole (Barnes? maybe) and be a playoff contender in 11-12. Then be a title contender heading into Brooklyn for 2012-2013.
We have young talent, a boatload of draft picks, and a lot of space. Let’s be judicious and not try to do too much to fast as some of these other teams might be doing (i.e. Knicks). It will pay off in the long run.
Nets 10-11 = Thunder 08-09 … hopefully
by BigTom on Jul 7, 2010 9:25 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
So basically check back in 2013?
by No Sleep Till Brooklyn on Jul 7, 2010 9:28 PM EDT up reply actions
Enjoy the games...
If you want a championship, watch the Yankees.
by rundmc00 on Jul 7, 2010 9:29 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
no sleep
nah, if it’s not at least 70 it’s not fun.
Emulating the Thunder is easier said than done. In order to do what the Thunder did you have to hit the jackpot on a player like Kevin Durant. We’ve already seen luck wont be on our side in the lottery once.
I dont want to see it happen again.
by nygiants1 on Jul 7, 2010 9:33 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
So then let's overspend and be a middling team for the next five years
A perennial 40-win team is what you want?
i wanted the nets
to do everything in their power to walk away from this offseason with an all-star player. I had season tickets last year and I have season tickets again this year.
After ripping the team apart the last two years i would have hoped that the team would have been able to attain a marquee, perenial all-star big man.
I’m 24 years old. Money isnt easy to come by. For me to have season tickets I have to budget myself. It’s truly a waste of time even at the reduced prices they sell to their garbage games.
by nygiants1 on Jul 7, 2010 9:37 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
they did everything in their power to walk away with an all-star
I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson
by Gina on Jul 7, 2010 9:38 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
did they meet face to face
with either Amare or Boozer? Did they show those two players the same respect they showed Wade, Bosh and Lebron?
Did they get involved in trade talks with the raptors to offer Bosh the long term, full max deal he wanted to try and sway him to NJ?
No. They met with three players on the first day of FA and sat on their thumbs like they’re the yankees and everyone wants to play for them.
Joke.
by nygiants1 on Jul 7, 2010 9:39 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Exactly.
Its like going for a job interview. We went to the interview, and left. The Knicks went to the interview, and called back every day. Who do we think we are?
how do you know we didn't call back and/or weren't in contact?
I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson
by Gina on Jul 7, 2010 9:43 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I just saw that the Nets and LeBron and his people
spoke today and told him if he needs another player in NJ to sign they can make that happen.
what more do you want them to do? Shoot the budget on Keith Van Horn?
I would hope you would support who we are. Not, who we are not. Coach Norman Dale "Hoosiers"
the nets rightly
figured that there were only two doods worth max contracts in this class- lebron and wade (bosh being on the next tier).
Others teams were on the grind.
While the Nets were trying to figure out their org chart.
Embarrassing.
by No Sleep Till Brooklyn on Jul 7, 2010 9:43 PM EDT up reply actions
On the Grind by Overpaying for Loosers
Bosh couldn’t succeed in Toronto with Teams built around him. NOT a max player. Especially when he wanted no parts of being anywhere alone. Acting like Bosh is Walt/Kareem/russell/shaq. 100 mill for a 6 foot 10 jump shooter. He was either following Bron or wade. Now they all follow Wade.
Even the King was built around and je pretty much gave up on his Team this year and went home. Got his Coach and GM fired because “he wasn’t feeling it”? In My opinion thats not a max player.
And Wade never had intentions of leaving Miami he just wanted attract some sidekicks and be the only free Agent to get ALLL of his money. Mission accomplished.
This big 3 still has nothing on the Lakers. I hope they sign Raja Bell and Matt Barnes. Kobe will win 3 more titles and have a laugh while polishing 8 rings.
The NETS are coming!
by MrBDown on Jul 8, 2010 3:32 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Amar'e and Boozer aren't worth the contracts they signed
and weren’t going to turn this team around. They’re just overrated and over hyped pieces.
And yes they were in trade talks with the raptors what are you talking about? Have you followed the off-season at all? Bosh wanted to follow Wade or Lebron, unless Lebron went to Cleveland, he ended up following Wade, and we did meet with him. Not landing them had nothing to do with a lack of effort.
I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson
They might have that marquee, perenial all-star big man
Lopez…Favors…it takes time for these guys to blossom. Durant’s rookie season, he got criticized a lot, too.
apparently that seems to be what everyone wants
I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson
Luck Worked when we got #1's Knyon Martin and derrick Coleman
Durant wasn’t even a #1.
WADE,LeBron,Bosh (Wade LeBosh) Manipulated this whole thing. They wanted to make a friggin movie. They knew that were gonna play together all along. Now if they don’t win in year one like the celtics with thier D-league supporting cast or God forbid years 2 or 3. The monster they created will turn on itself. While this media animal that they’ve fed steroids to takes its roid rage out on them. LeBron from King to SideKick in about 10 minutes.
I’m not mad with My Team. We didn’t get desperate. And we have 10 players under contract and 32 million in cap space. The 3 of them will equally divide 58 mill with Wade getting the most money and they will then have 4 players under contract. Not including their 3 second round project players. While they bet the farm and their egos that quality players will flock to Miami a year before a lockout and a new cba to play for peanuts and wash their laundry. How conceited.
We got a 6’8 forward Named James and ours spent 4 years in college and may be an All Star in 3 years with Brook and Twill.
Hell after Lebron anounces this Lets go trade for beasley and keep it movin. they will give him up for nothing.
The NETS are coming!
by MrBDown on Jul 8, 2010 3:21 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
As long as we have good coaching and the kids are improving...
I am fine. Much better than last year with no coach.
Also, if we get Pritchard, we’ll have a rich owner, excellent GM and great coaches. Good things will come.
by rundmc00 on Jul 7, 2010 9:35 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
This team is all "if's" at this point.
by No Sleep Till Brooklyn on Jul 7, 2010 9:37 PM EDT up reply actions
so was the westbrook kd combo
you guys keep talking up
I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson
kd was an absolute beast in college.
An LBJ type talent.
Are you saying, the Nets need to keep losing until they get lucky in the lottery?
Is that “the plan”?
by No Sleep Till Brooklyn on Jul 7, 2010 9:45 PM EDT up reply actions
no I'm saying they should make every move to get legitimate game
changers, like Lebron and Wade, but that overpaying for overrated players isn’t worth it.
I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson
by Gina on Jul 7, 2010 9:46 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
You could spend a decade waiting for that to happen.
by No Sleep Till Brooklyn on Jul 7, 2010 9:50 PM EDT up reply actions
you could spend a decade with 40 win teams
I agree you need stars to win in the NBA. Which is why it doesn’t make sense to overpay for the Boozers and Amar’es of the world.
I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson
But the Nets DID want to overpay for Boozers.
They recognized the need for talent on this roster.
They just failed.
by No Sleep Till Brooklyn on Jul 7, 2010 9:56 PM EDT up reply actions
the Knicks are all if’s at this point as well, so he deff staying a Cav not going to the Knicks and Nets the world is fine
by Julia Nets Fan on Jul 7, 2010 9:41 PM EDT up reply actions
the knicks have one of the top five or six
big men in the league with a ton of cap space to continue to work with and an expiring contract next year. They have a promising player in Gallinari and a franchise people respect and will want to play for.
lol @ a franchise people respect
seriously, no one outside of NY MSM respects them.
I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson
The Knicks, today, are a lot closer than the Nets.
by No Sleep Till Brooklyn on Jul 7, 2010 9:45 PM EDT up reply actions
no they're not
they’re no closer than they were last year.
I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson
Gina
you’re clearly from NJ. Otherwise you’d understand the appeal of playing in New York infront of the garden fans and massive fan base the knicks have.
Every net fan on earth is on this site right now. We are a nothing franchise. If nobody respects the knicks what exactly do people think of the nets? Who, btw, almost set the record for most losses ever last year.
yeah my families from New York but I haven't lived in the area
in years and move around a lot. And I can tell you, no one outside of NY thinks that of the knicks anymore. It’s totally NY MSM hype and nothing more. The knicks are a complete joke outside of NY.
I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson
Location Location Location
Izod was no match for MSG but the Rock and the B.Center will blow out MSG. STAT doesn’t make the Knicks better his numbers will suffer without Nash Just wait…
The NETS are coming!
Technically, yes, because a 29 win team is "closer" than a 12 win team
But closer in reality? No, they’re not. If Stoudemire’s knee gives out, their season is ruined and they have a contract albatross on their hands.
if a lot of players get injured their season is over
Amare had microfracture surgery and is completely healed from him.
The Nets need “ifs” to maybe be better.
We need the Knicks to have “ifs” to hopefully be worse.
Sad.
by No Sleep Till Brooklyn on Jul 7, 2010 9:52 PM EDT up reply actions
Bull
Did you guys get a close up of Amaries eye? No docter can fix that thing. You can look for an x Ray of those knees as well.
Whether you guys like it or not, Prokahov knows more than you think and is a man that knows what he wants. I see his vision and it is,one of not over paying. Just because the nets may not get someone now does not mean they will not try or get a player later.
The trueth of the matter is, Lebron is a better talent than Kobe but Kobes not out there for show. Lebron just wants to look good and make money to hush the critics. The ONLY reason he has to not sign with the nets, is he can’t deal with Averys no nosense( end to all that celebration crap).
Last but not least, do any of you see championship in Lebrons eye that you want him so bad or you watched too much ESPN and just want to be relevent. There’s a reason Bron doesn’t have a ring yet.
by Zartan on Jul 8, 2010 2:36 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
What we should do
Is let them know how we feel. We are the only team that didn’t try!!!
How stupid diner look not paying boozer 5 million more over 5 years? We have 3 more this year.
FAIL
by Rawdawg05 on Jul 7, 2010 9:29 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Boozer and his Agent Played us
We never got a chance to meet or match. This is the SAME Boozer who fleeced b;ind owner of the cavs(and a young Lebron) to go play in Utah after agreeing to a deal. The dude has no honor. Jazz been trying to get rid of him for 2 seasons now….lol. But we shoulda stalked him??? Pau, Bynum(on one leg) and Odom made hm look like a spice girl in the Playoffs. PLEASE!!! We already have 1 too many unspectacular Duke bigs on the roster anyway!
The NETS are coming!
by MrBDown on Jul 8, 2010 3:51 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
What have the Thunder ever won? 2 games in a first round series?
Yeah, OKC has a nice core and Presti has done a good job in putting that together. Anyone see them winning a championship next year? Two years from now? Ever?
Harris/CLee/LeBron/DLee/Lopez + Twill, Favors and a plethora of future draft picks instantly puts the Nets in much better shape than OKC. It makes the Nets a legit contender today and for years to come.
Not getting Lee or before that Boozer or before that Bosh and thus not getting LeBron = Same Ol’ Nets. Bruce Ratner is not here to kick around. Hope Proky had fun Jetskiing off the coast of Turkey, he just fell off his five year plan. Can’t spend more on billboards than on game changing free agents. Good luck with Tyrus Thomas, this is turning out to be an Epic Fail!
wait
how are we in better shape than OKC? They have as much young talent, and as much cap room. And a better franchise player.
I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson
we're NOT in better shape than OKC, read it again.
The point is that we’re not than OKC, but today, without years of “rebuilding” we could have been. If Proky wasn’t busy Jetskiing the Mediterranean this week and actually signed a PF (like Lee or Boozer) to attract LeBron we would have been light years ahead of OKC.
Harris/CLee/LeBron/DLee/Lopez > than a first round team and it also goes in line w/the 5 year plan.
Harris/CLee/Twill/Favors/Lopez = another lottery pick and another spell in Clippersland.
ooh okay I misread
I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson
and Bosh wasn't coming here unless Lebron was already signed up
so we didn’t not get Bosh because of inaction.
I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson
again we aren't the Thunder
We don’t have a Kevin Durrant that’s the difference. We don’t have a MVP type player
Brooklyn won’t matter. James is a knicks the Nets might as well go to Seattle.
Let's see how Brook, TWil, James and Favors develop...
Plus another high draft pick.
If we get Pritchard, I will feel that all is fine.
yes, let young good player develop, we aren’t the Knicks we don’t need someone, maybe fans want someone, but we don’t need someone to save us
by Julia Nets Fan on Jul 7, 2010 9:32 PM EDT up reply actions
A 12 win team doesn't need someone to save them?
by No Sleep Till Brooklyn on Jul 7, 2010 9:33 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
no, you rebuild the right way if you don’t get a player, people need to realize nets don’t need to spend just to spend
by Julia Nets Fan on Jul 7, 2010 9:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Actually, they do.
Doesn’t the NBA have a salary floor?
I doubt we are making it.
Gonna have to bring back Dooling to avoid being fined.
by No Sleep Till Brooklyn on Jul 7, 2010 9:46 PM EDT up reply actions
James is going to be a Cav. Take my word for that. James won’t be a Knick and if you think he is go root for the Knicks. Hey worst comes to worst if he is a Knicks would be that much better when we kill them next year
by Julia Nets Fan on Jul 7, 2010 9:31 PM EDT up reply actions
hahahahahahaha
if he is a knick we won’t beating them
by killa kadafi191 on Jul 7, 2010 9:32 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah we will, just wait, but he won’t be a Knick, so nothing to fear
by Julia Nets Fan on Jul 7, 2010 9:33 PM EDT up reply actions
There are 28 other teams that don't have Durant either
Are they supposed to throw in the towel, too? “Ok, let’s overspend on David Lee and be a middling team for the five years.” Not my idea of a disciplined rebuilding plan.
yet you say follow their blueprint
yea 28 other teams didn’t go from 20 win to 50 so you right about not having Durrant.
Plus they might have hurt the Nets right there no franchise player.
by killa kadafi191 on Jul 7, 2010 9:36 PM EDT up reply actions
we dont have a russell westbrook
let alone a Kevin Durant
yeah and guess how they got them
by being terrible and picking in the lottery for like 4 straight years. They didn’t have a KD or Westbrook when they started rebuilding either.
I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson
HE’S GOING TO CHICAGO. END OF STORY!
by diehardNFFLbarnone on Jul 7, 2010 10:09 PM EDT up reply actions
What a let down.
Not that I give much of a crap about Lee or Boozer, but to first lose out on John Wall and then lose out on literally EVERYONE ELSE is pretty insane considering what we were expecting this off season.
One big let down.
john wall
still stings so much,
I hate the draft lottery, we need(ed) him
I wanted Turner much more than Wall...
Not even getting the 2nd overall pick in the Draft was an absolute swift kick in the balls.
What an absolute joke.
not that this matters anymore
but we’ll see how Wall does next week, I bet he’ll be incredible
I still like the draft class.
It’s just not enough.
Not having someone to work ahead of Favors could be bad for his development.
by No Sleep Till Brooklyn on Jul 7, 2010 9:31 PM EDT up reply actions
That's a funny comment by the "Nets official" re: Chicago
He claims Chicago overspent on Boozer, but D’Alessandro reports Chicago offered him only $5 million more than NJ. Ha!
This is awful
I really don’t know what they are doing. Let’s face it, how do we know if Thorn’s “Plan B” (or Plan D, which is what we’re probably up to), will be the same as the incoming GM? The new GM will be left with a disgruntled fan base, 12 win team, and a “blueprint for greatness” that has been a complete bust.
I am a sucker and drank the Kool Aid. Now I have come to the reality that this off season has actually been more painful and dreadful than the 12 win debacle.
by nynjlawyer on Jul 7, 2010 9:31 PM EDT via mobile reply actions 2 recs
Thorn's plan B is to hire a replacement and...
…say “Peeeeeeeeaaaace, i’m out”.
by No Sleep Till Brooklyn on Jul 7, 2010 9:32 PM EDT up reply actions
hahahahahah
maybe this was thorn plan. F your 5 year plan.
by killa kadafi191 on Jul 7, 2010 9:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Again
Brook Twill James and Favors lets see how they develop?
This sounds familar oh yea I heard with Marcus Williams,Josh Boone, Sean Williams (remember people thought we had a pf) Yi and so on.
Kevin Durrant was the real deal out the box. until we get a franchise type player we aren’t doing nothing.
Heck we don’t know if building around Brook will work. We could be like Memphis and Pau Gasol. hahahahahaha
or we could be like the Thunder nobody will know till we know, fans who don’t belive piss me off, sometime winning isn’t easy, just root for lakers or Celtics if you want to see a team win
by Julia Nets Fan on Jul 7, 2010 9:35 PM EDT up reply actions
Please.
I’ve followed the Nets for several decades now.
Losing is one thing. To sell winning, throw up billboards, and then to completely strike out, is worse than losing.
by No Sleep Till Brooklyn on Jul 7, 2010 9:40 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I agree… complete slap in the face. I hope we aren’t one of the worse teams in the league again. It’d be pretty bad when we have a billboard that reads " Blueprint for greatness"
don’t look at the record from last year I know it’s hard for people not too, but we are a different team, we have a coach who cares unlike last season, we will be better, maybe the worst, but we will be better and in the end it will be better when we see all the players win a ring in a few years, give it time, we can’t all be like the Celtics and Lakers. Our time will come. Sometimes you give to get.
by Julia Nets Fan on Jul 7, 2010 9:51 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah, because it's impossible to win a title without lebron.
in fact, since lebron has been in the league, not a single team other than his has won the championship. he’s a modern day bill russell!
We got a coach, but lost a GM.
Until we sign a good GM, it’s a wash.
by No Sleep Till Brooklyn on Jul 7, 2010 9:52 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah this I agree with
and given who they’ve been linked too…I’m not exactly excited.
I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson
Can you guys please slow down with the posts? Every time it’s mass posts, the page freezes on me. Please?
what browser are you using?
I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson
AOL or Internet Explorer. I don’t check my browsers cause I thought guys might slow down. Help me, then?
yeah I'd suggest firefox or chrome
i have no issues in chrome
I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson
Love Chrome
I would hope you would support who we are. Not, who we are not. Coach Norman Dale "Hoosiers"
Chrome is the way and the light
Except when you want to print.
by calling all toasters on Jul 7, 2010 10:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Completely Strike out by not getting Flawed players?
Every signing has an alterior motive. You think Boozer really wanted to be THE MAN? He wasn’t in Cleveland(LeBron James), Utah(Deron Williams) and wont be in Chicago(Derrick Rose). The same dude who shares the same Real Estate Taste as Prince…lol. He would have had to be THE MAN here with that contract. He wanted no parts of it and used us to get more money from the Bulls. Blame these whacked out Players. I have never seen anything like this EVER. These dudes PLANNED this. And if they PLANNED free agency dont you think they PLANNED where they would end up????
We did all we could and we are solid and Not a 12 in team. No Yi, No Battie, No Simmons, No Rafer, Chris Quin, Dooling, No Boone, No CDR. Thats 8 guys Gone. 3 New Guys in already and maybe a few small changes as well.
RJ actually Liked it here. I say get him and Get Beasley and Anthony Morrow and keep it movin.
The NETS are coming!
Julia
They are not a real fan even those so called season ticket holders because if they are they would stick with the team no matter what happen.
by jasperjarrod on Jul 7, 2010 10:07 PM EDT up reply actions
That's funny.
I HAVE stuck with the Nets and will continue to stick with the Nets.
That doesn’t mean they are not a complete disappointment.
by No Sleep Till Brooklyn on Jul 7, 2010 10:09 PM EDT up reply actions
Agreed
I am a full season ticket and have been a fan of this team since the late 80’s. That will Not change. But I am extremely disappointed in the off season thus far.
by nynjlawyer on Jul 7, 2010 10:58 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
“I think at the end of the day the New York Knicks and Chicago had to overspend on players,” a Nets official said. “We are not in the same situation as either team.”
This annoys me though! We have a billionaire owner who came in who was suppose to be ready to spend money on big FA’s yet the apparently cheap Chicago owner ends up outbidding us and the Knicks spends more money than us for players.
Right now the only players we signed are Zuobek and Udoh! We spent our money so far on the billboard, which may be laughing stock if we don’t actually come through with anyone and a office in the seagate building.
I’m sorry, but I thought the days where we would be frugal with our money was over and that was left in the Ratner Era. Whats going on?? The supposedly whole hype with Prokhorov was actually having a owner who was willing to spend spend spend!
Blueprint for Greatness
makes us a sporting, not just NBA, joke.
by No Sleep Till Brooklyn on Jul 7, 2010 9:33 PM EDT up reply actions
he's a billionaire because he invests his money wisely
rather than just throwing it around for no reason.
I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson
if he invest his money wisely
can you say the Nets were a logical purchase?
by killa kadafi191 on Jul 7, 2010 9:37 PM EDT up reply actions
um yes
I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson
having money to spend
is not the issue. of course prokhorov has money to spend. but if you start over paying players that aren’t worth it, you screw your salary cap up for a decade and then have to dismantle your team for two years to get cap flexibility back. a rash move or two can be a disaster. it has nothing to do with being frugal
Sure they are fine!!!!!!!!!!
They dont have to everspend they will win 15 next year one more for the new coach one more for Favors and one more for James ….. rod get out as soon as pposible dont wait 15 get out of NJ dont w8 for LBJ anouncment ,,, or u will be remembered like the guy who had 30 mil and spend them on TT and R Felton hahahahahah its a shame …. and all this is a crap…
Maybe NetsInsider is trying to get Lee's agent to expect less from Nets and Thorn is playing poker.
Afterall, if LeBron goes to Knicks, then DLee can’t be dealt in S&T on Friday and Thorn is only game in town.
Lets hope this is just a carefully orchestrated leak so Lee’s agent is more willing to make a deal tonight, before LeBron might go to Knicks.
Did you ever get the link that Proky is supposed to be back in the States?
Noone seems to have found it in the Daily News.
no he's not
your referenced blog just said he left turkey, didnt say where he was going.
San Francisco is a pretty good place too.
I’ll bet his Model Girlfriend can get a job their too.
After eating my Dinner ive come to a conclusion
LEBRON IS COMING TO THE NETS!!!!!
and im sticking to it until 9:15 PM ET when he makes his announcement
i was bashing the nets for not getting this guy and that guy and the nets arent getting lebron but we cant think like that we have to stay positive until he says he going to cle or ny or chi or mia, we are going to shock the world and lebron is going to come to the nets
Listen if we dont get Paul or if we do that helps but there is still other options in trades to pair with Lebron
"Avery Johnson: Erase to Replace"
Net Fans We still have a Chance LEBRON IS COMING!!!!
I saw a post that said Minnesota offered us Al Jefferson for nothing. Make that trade, and you think Bron comes?
i will be disappointed but what can we do we got to stay positive
"Avery Johnson: Erase to Replace"
Net Fans We still have a Chance LEBRON IS COMING!!!!
What Thorn isn't thinking is that preventing Knicks from doing a S&T is hurting Knicks too and taking fans away from them.
That alone is worth a few million extra per year.
Rod better be bluffing.
There is a serious Poker game going on – I hope.
Don’t disappoint your former Boss Rod.
And be the laughing stock of the NBA and ESPN another year.
Proky’s stock in USA will plummet too. He will be made fun of all year if Nets don’t get DLee so they can make the playoffs.
I wish Proky was awake to talk with Thorn now. He would say “Rod, we lost this one; Lets just lose this battle and pay what Lee wants; We will win the war.”
This is the Proky's long term strategy
take several #1 pick to rebuilding, otherwise he will not let Rod left.
by YetAnotherFans on Jul 7, 2010 9:52 PM EDT up reply actions
devil advocate
When LeBron picks the NETS tomorrow night on national tv Proky will get a Big stage along with jay to be Kings of the World.
Just Imagine the Shock effect!!!!!!
by LBJOSH on Jul 7, 2010 10:37 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Do you hear yourself????
Get Lee and make the Playoffs. He is a nice player and would fit well. But he spent his ENTIRE career so far in NYC and never made the playoffs. One year of 20 and 10 isn’t worth 100 million. Put down the shrooms Jerry…
Beasley will give us 15 and 8 for 5 million…. about 80 million less than Lee. So 80 million is worth 5 points and 3 boards. If that’s the case we are ALL free agents. I’m 5’8 but i could get 3 boards and 5 points.
The NETS are coming!
Rod should leave at 9:11 PM Thursday
The minute that LeBron announces his decision, Rod should leave. Let the new GM (whomever he may be) finish up with free agency and filling out our roster. It’s not fair for for Rod to stick us with a bunch of bums like Tyrus Thomas and Richard Jefferson and then have the next GM have to come in and clean up the mess
it seems kind of nightmarish
I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson
Avery would be the default GM. He has Proky's confidence.
Avery must be screaming in his hotel room right now.
yea the lottery here we come
who are we getting with our 4 or 5 pick? A replacement for who Devin or Courtney Lee?
All of a sudden, the Knicks have a deal in place to trade Lee? I heard he wanted to make a decision by tonight. Another report by Knick shills, perhaps?
They can't trade Lee and pick up cap space if LeBron might still sign with Knicks.
Unless someone knows of some loophole.
Anyone find it ironic that Greenwich Village, NY is where LeBron was reportedly seen looking for a $13mil condo and Greenwich, CT is the name of the place where he will make his speech?
http://gothamist.com/2010/06/29/report_knicks_behind_nets_in_lebron.php
I got a link that says ‘’ A source said LeBron was coming to NJ’’, and the article was written 4 DAYS BEFORE any team met with him. You want that link, as well?
until the knicks signed amare and we signed no1
God sent us a Prokhorov, an Avery, and a FAVORS!!!!.
Everything has changed.
All the pieces have landed…outside of NJ.
by No Sleep Till Brooklyn on Jul 7, 2010 9:53 PM EDT up reply actions
so....
what does that have to do with what I posted?
Wake Up Call
The Nets front office and all of the jokers on this blog who claim that we should not “overpay” for these free agents are delusional and they need to wake up. Newsflash! WE WON 12 GAMES LAST SEASON. Why in the world would ANY FREE AGENT want to come here unless we overpay them? We have a temporary home, we have no GM, we have an unknown owner, and oh, by the way, we’re coming off the 2nd worst season in NBA history!! The only reason why anyone would want to come here would be if you PAID them to be here…..
WILD CARD
One thing that people don’t yet realize is that the NBA landscape is going to change dramatically after next year. I HOPE that the Nets are smart enough to look long term.
A lockout will do one of two things;
One the owners will win and the ability to circumvent the salary cap will be greatly reduced in one way or another. In this case the ability to have flexibility under the salary cap and sound contracts will be a HUGE asset.
Two, the players will hold out and the owners will lose money and players with higher salaries will be available on the cheap as small market teams get their books in order. Either way, have an owner who is willing to spend money and lose if need be as well as flexibility under the salary cap and sound contract will create a HUGE advantage for those teams.
If you swing for LeBron you may overspend on some other free agents to make him happy, otherwise you enter THIS season cautiously until you know the new rules to the game.
I can't wait to see the nets future plans
what free agent will we create cap space to lose out again
thanks god, this will all be over tomorrow. Lots of negative net fans on here. Most of you would prob complain if we overpayed a player, so no one should complain now about anything
they'll find more reasons to be negative tomorrow
I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson
people will find reasons to be negative here a lot, not everyone just a few I notice. other site I’ve posted on has much less of that lol
by Julia Nets Fan on Jul 7, 2010 9:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Many may not be here tomorrow.
Knicks could learn that they won’t be getting LeBron in the morning, and deal DLee by lunch time, before Thorn finishes his nap.
We will have every right to complain after the press conference tomorrow
If we don’t land Lebron we were sold on a farce. “It’s all neww” had a section called free agency. How do they expect to build a fan base in NY when were are trying to develop young talent and the Knicks are spending money.
and the purpose of the billboard was to draw people to penn station to go to newark to watch games. how can we do that when we made little to any upgrade from our last season roster. i feel sorry for brett yormack who has been doing his best trying to advertise for our team
Maybe we can give away other teams jersey's again.
by No Sleep Till Brooklyn on Jul 7, 2010 9:59 PM EDT up reply actions
maybe negative people should become fans of other teams, would be easy to deal with
by Julia Nets Fan on Jul 7, 2010 10:01 PM EDT up reply actions
they should become knicks fans
if they want rash short sighted moves
I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson
Please.
The basis of your statement is ridiculous.
It’s like going to a restaurant and saying “you should be happy with whatever you get”.
The Nets product right now is horrible.
by No Sleep Till Brooklyn on Jul 7, 2010 10:05 PM EDT up reply actions
so don't buy it.
if it’s not worthy of your consideration, take a break, and come back when it is.
Knicks are spending money on Amare(who I don’t really want, heck suns didn’t want him) so give another example. Only good one would be Bosh and Wade
by Julia Nets Fan on Jul 7, 2010 9:59 PM EDT up reply actions
Its STILL New..
New owner, New Coaches, New GM, 2 New stadiums(I HATED IZOD IT is a depressing place) and in 2 seasons a new friggin city. Now there is nothing new because you didn’t blow 100 million on Carlos boozer. Stop with the whinning.
I Keep seeing this 12 win stuff but oddly enough the 07-08 version of the heat Led by Dwade won 15 games. I wondered if they sound like this?
The NETS are coming!
The Charlie Rosen article says the Knick could potentially sign LeBron and then re-sign David Lee???
Can someone tell me how that is possible??
And Rosen really rips into the Nets team – says BLopez is Clumsy.
they can't he's wrong
they have to renounce Lee’s rights to sign another max
I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson
The Nets are BRILLIANT, we're all just shortsighted
This is a little long, but stick with it. It takes a long time to outline the only reasonable explanation for the Nets silence
First, let me say I was bummed when Boozer went to CHI. I wanted to destroy the Nets offices.
Then I thought about why, with $30 mil to play with and bold symbols like the billboard, would the Nets do absolutely nothing?
Let’s do a quick recap and look at some things objectively. The Nets value proposition to Lebron remains the same:
- Be the face of the NEW New York franchise
- If Lebron opts for a dream team in Miami, it will diminish his brand and ultimately kill his chances at becoming a billion dollar brand
- Conversely, turning around a 12-win laughing stock into NBA champions would make him a billion dollar man.
^ You see those things? Those are obvious. If I’m Lebron and the Nets tell me this, I already know that. That’s not enough for me to say the presentation "blew me away," as it was reported that Lebron said.
Let’s also consider that many sources including Chris Blowhard of ESPN, said that through Saturday, the Nets had the most impressive pitch.
With that in mind, I think the Nets approached Lebron with more. I think the following rationale might have been presented to Lebron and THIS is what blew him away:
Turning around the Nets would be legendary, but you might say, "Turning around the Cavs is no small feat either." And it isn’t, but doing that over the course of 8 years isn’t so impressive. Also consider that the Cavs stretched themselves financiall with bad contracts over the past few years so they don’t have as much financial liberty to make moves that would help them build a team around Lebron.
So we told Lebron, "If you stay in Cleveland, the pieces around you won’t change. And if you don’t win a title, the blame will fall on your shoulders. If you leave Cleveland and win titles, then the blame will fall on Cleveland for never surrounding you with the team you needed."
Then we looked him square in the face and showed him our roster. We presented how the core pieces in NJ are better and that we have more money to spend over the years to build a balanced roster with true 5, something no other suitor can offer. And while the Bulls would have a comparatively solid roster, they would be lacking a true big man. In order to win a championship, especially against Western conference contenders, you need a big man.
Now, again, let’s refer to facts. Proky predicted on Saturday that Bosh was going with Wade to Miami. Nothing happened between Thurs and Sat that tipped the odds toward those two teaming up.
Odds are that not only did the Nets know that then, but Bron knew it too. So, the Nets approached Lebron with the only solid 5-year plan sans Bosh. Perhaps one of the elements about the presentation that "blew" Lebron away.
So coming out of the meeting, the Nets had a verbal agreement with Bron and let other teams like the Knicks and Bulls scramble to add pieces like Amare and Boozer to try and attract Lebron.
We told Lebron that this would happen, and if it did happen, that those teams would pay above market value for those big men. In doing so, they would financially cripple their organizations and leave them little flexibility to add pieces around him. With that setup, we could then hit Lebron with this gem:
"Scrambling to sign players, and end up overpaying them? Are you feeling deja vu, Lebron? That’s what the Cavs did over the past few years."
So we said we would sit, let other teams waste money, and sign the reliable Lee in what appears to the press as a "Consolation" prize. Lee would serve as a great 20/10 PF until Favors develops, putting the average age of our core in their mid-20’s.
With all of that, the Nets would then announce the signing of Lebron and other parts of the 5-year plan including our new name and jerseys.
Of course there is the issue of it being unlikely that we get Lee considered these S&T rumors, but hell, I gave it a shot.
Or at least that’s my "way out there" delusional theory.
by Anthony Perez on Jul 7, 2010 9:56 PM EDT reply actions 6 recs
I know I am
But my crazy explanation, if ridiculous, makes a modicum of sense. If nothing else, it was fun to come up with this conspiracy theory lol
by Anthony Perez on Jul 7, 2010 10:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Excellent idea...i REALLY hope its true
I would hope you would support who we are. Not, who we are not. Coach Norman Dale "Hoosiers"
by dmitchell624 on Jul 7, 2010 10:03 PM EDT up reply actions
So are you saying that LeBron chooses Nets on Thursday, and then on Friday DLee comes to Nets for cheap because he can win a championship?
And that LeBron knew this possibility all along?
It's a stretch
But how else do you explain the Nets complete LACK of movement? You really think we went into the Lebron meeting, presented all of our cards, and then afterward Thorn told Proky:
“You know, I don’t think we’re getting him.”
Proky: “Damn, so what should we do?”
Thorn: “You go back to Turkey. I’ll chill and do nothing for the rest of free agency. Cool?”
Proky: “Super”
by Anthony Perez on Jul 7, 2010 10:11 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
CLASSIC!!!
I don’t know if this is how it will unfold, but I have to hand it to you, because up to now you are the only one who has made an effort… I like your style, plus we have the same name, so that has to count for something… You get a Rec’d!!
wow, i like
I will say this. Not being mentioned a lot in media through this whole process could be a good thing. Just like all the media hyped trade rumors rarely happen, hopefully same with all of this LeBron stuff.
Dude, it took some serious blind faith
To look at this whole situation objectively and try to figure out just what the hell “blew away lebron.”
by Anthony Perez on Jul 7, 2010 10:09 PM EDT up reply actions
finally someone who can connect the dots
Throw in Jay and Proky and we know they will forever be now tied together as global entertainment icons
by LBJOSH on Jul 7, 2010 10:52 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I guess ESPN is right
Every time I did those free agency lotteries the Nets got nothing
My optimal backup plan:
1) Trade for AK47
2) Sign Scola or Haslem for 2/3 yrs
Harris
Lee/TWill
AK47/James
Scola/Favors
Lopez
That’s pretty solid team and very good on defense.
I'm not sure if Boozer would've been a great fit for the Nets with Lopez and Favors
But do you guys think it was a good move for the Bulls?
Rose
?
Deng
Boozer
Noah
W/Taj, James Johnson, max cap space
hahahaha
while people joking i really think we are going to get AK47 that will be the Russian big signing.
So D. Lee
would rather go all the way across the country than play in Newark? We ain’t that bad are we?
What are we offering him?
Is it his fault or ours?
by No Sleep Till Brooklyn on Jul 7, 2010 10:01 PM EDT up reply actions
it really truly is baffling to me
that we as nets fans have watched the mistakes the knicks made over the last 10 years and so many have not only not learned from them, but want us to operate in the exact same way.
baffling.
by shane gayle on Jul 7, 2010 10:00 PM EDT reply actions 16 recs
lol exactly this gets a rec
it’s insane how short sighted fans can be.
I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson
Totally agree!
But that’s why I am JUST FINE sitting still. Ok, we didn’t get any of the prima-donna FAs… SO WHAT.
I want to see this team develop. You can’t be short sighted about it. That’s how we’ve made so many other mistakes.
When the Nets resigned Vince Carter that WAS a Knicks move.
by No Sleep Till Brooklyn on Jul 7, 2010 10:02 PM EDT up reply actions
and signing someone just to sign someone this time won’t make sense unless lebron tells nets he will sign
by Julia Nets Fan on Jul 7, 2010 10:03 PM EDT up reply actions
not overpaying is a smart idea
but there is no denying that someone like davd lee could help this line up. if the price is right ok…
"We’re the new Nets. We’re leaving the old behind and we’re in with the new. Hopefully LeBron is going to be a part of that."
-Coach Avery Johnson.
Lee isn't a piece to get a us to a champiohsip.
He is a piece to help our front court get better.
by No Sleep Till Brooklyn on Jul 7, 2010 10:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Only Lebron was the piece to get us a championship
but nets also need to keep fans happy…it is a business after all.
we need to make moves to improve our lineup and right now we;re destined for another horrible season
"We’re the new Nets. We’re leaving the old behind and we’re in with the new. Hopefully LeBron is going to be a part of that."
-Coach Avery Johnson.
Same fans who
whine and complain and couldn’t sell out our own building in back to back finals appearances. Yea we are an awesome fan base and deserve much better.lol. The knicks are bad but at least fans show(spend money) to boo them…lol. While every other city begged and graveled and stalked these guys what did jersey fans do? Pass the buck to Proky who just got here…lol.
The NETS are coming!
This is what i've been saying!!!
recss
" I'm really excited to take the worst team in the league and turn it to be the best in the league." --Mikhail Prokhorov.
I am a very content Nets fan
Just give us Pritchard and it will be a great offseason.
I would be less negative if they did that.
But, honestly, do you see Avery letting another powerful voice in the FO?
by No Sleep Till Brooklyn on Jul 7, 2010 10:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Let's hope...
I’d even take Marks. Just not a loser retread like Bower. Too bad Rod’s ego didn’t let us hire Jerry C.
I don't get Marks.
He seems like just a guy.
by No Sleep Till Brooklyn on Jul 7, 2010 10:06 PM EDT up reply actions
Again.
When your positives are lesser negatives, that’s an issue.
by No Sleep Till Brooklyn on Jul 7, 2010 10:09 PM EDT up reply actions
naw this there is no surprise
this is just who the nets are
by killa kadafi191 on Jul 7, 2010 10:02 PM EDT reply actions
a new FO would come in handy...hope its Pritchatrd or Presti
too bad we struck out but hey, at least we have our young core..
We weren't ready to compete for this FA class...
1) 12 win season
2) Newark
3) Need a new GM
Such is life. I still feel good about our future!
by rundmc00 on Jul 7, 2010 10:04 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
presti isn't happening
not after signing Durant to an extension
I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson
Totally agree Gina
Great move to sign Durant, what a great kid he is
I would hope you would support who we are. Not, who we are not. Coach Norman Dale "Hoosiers"
by dmitchell624 on Jul 7, 2010 10:05 PM EDT up reply actions
$32 Mil
They better explore trade options because I refuse to spend my $ on season tickets to watch a sub 30 win season without making a major trade. And please don’t respond to this telling me to be patient, I was patient all season looking forward to bringing in a big name FA this off-season.
I wasn’t going to say be patient, I was going to say harden up. Proky wants into the NY market big time, he isn’t going to allow us to stink for too long. I am pretty sure he knows a thing or two about business. And, just because Rod wasn’t updating his moves on twitter, I am pretty sure he has been working his butt off over the last few weeks.
NY Will not Sign and Trade David Lee
To be able to afford Amare and LBJ, NY has to renounce all their free agents, such as Lee.
Unless they are sign and trading Lee to Phoenix to Cleveland, David Lee will not be signed and traded.
they'll sign and trade him
if they miss out on Lebron
I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson
assuming he agrees...
… to go to the Warriors.
Yesterday, Toronto reportedly figured it would be able to S&T Bosh
if lebron is going to the knicks
i don’t think the knicks know it yet. why would they set up the Lee sign and trade if they knew Lebron
Reason for LeBron to come to Nets
This offseason has proven why the Nets are the best team for LeBron. While other teams have been lauded for the irrational behavior to appease the King, the Nets have stayed the course with their business model.
Honestly, look at the people posting here, it is the epitome of irrationality and some teams let the fans (Knicks) run their front office and make decisions. If LeBron is smart, I don’t know, than he would realize that his time in Cleveland where he dictated the organizational moves was not good for his career.
LeBron wants to win NOW
The Nets would not be a title contender bringing in LeBron by himself. Not happening.
Sure, but you’re looking at the next 1-2 years. Under that theory, you are correct. However, I feel he sees this a 5-10 year plan that can win him mulitple titles. Under that theory, you are incorrect.
He is going into his 8th season
He needs to start winning championships next year or the year after or he will fail to catch Kobe/MJ..that’s his goal.
the knicks signed allan houston to $100 mil because of course, one star is better than none.
they traded for steph because they needed to make a local SPLASH. oh and hey, let’s bring in steve francis also, because talent is talent. a lineup doesn’t need cohesian. just stockpile 2nd tier all-stars and everything will be fine!
oh, and yeah eddy curry may have health concerns but he’s a big and we need bigs so who cares?
yep, it really bums me out that the nets dont takes risks like the knicks.
by shane gayle on Jul 7, 2010 10:06 PM EDT reply actions 2 recs
Guys im just curious is the only way (everyone who think s james isnt coming) is if the media talks about us because i see the media doesnt talk about us and everyone now thinks because of that hes not coming
"Avery Johnson: Erase to Replace"
Net Fans We still have a Chance LEBRON IS COMING!!!!
i didnt if u want to tell me thanks
but im still keeping it because i know lebron is coming
"Avery Johnson: Erase to Replace"
Net Fans We still have a Chance LEBRON IS COMING!!!!
by Wall2KingJames on Jul 7, 2010 10:35 PM EDT up reply actions
I cannot fault the Nets for the way this free agency period has played out thus far. The game changing free agents were Lebron and Wade. The Nets made their pitch to these two but they cannot force either to sign. Overpaying for the rest of these guys getting max deals would only make sense if it brought us Lebron. If Lebron goes to the Knicks because they have Amare and his wobbly knee locked into an untradeable contract, he is less intelligent than I had thought.
by Chris2 on Jul 7, 2010 10:06 PM EDT reply actions 7 recs
gsloots. I agree. I think it’s Bron’s head(Nets) over his heart(Cavs). What do you think he chooses?
I see above you still insist that Proky is in the USA at this time.
Noone has yet confirmed your post that you saw. Maybe it was an old story with today’s date.
If it was true and you got it over the internet, it would go Viral.
If Proky is lurking in the US now, that would be better than a 50% chance of LeBron joining Nets especially in light of Greenich being close to Nets (Thorn lives in West Chester) and too obvious to be for Knicks.
Honestly, I'm worried about you if the Nets don't get Lebron.
We’ll be ok buddy.
Jefferson would never look great
I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson
Jefferson is slow can't playdefense and is Eddie Curry waiting to happen.
God sent us a Prokhorov, an Avery, and a FAVORS!!!!.
Gina
I know you’re busy trying to make men out of these bandwagon jumping fans, but I’m curious about what you think of my explanation for our lack of movement. I posted it above, it’s pretty long so it should be hard to find.
If nothing else hit “Ctrl + F” and search for my name.
by Anthony Perez on Jul 7, 2010 10:15 PM EDT up reply actions
for once i agree
with gina. Unless Rubio came back in the deal.
Are you kidding
he played heavy minutes for a team that made the Western conference finals. And its not like that has anything to do with credibility
to quote my friend Gina
he has no eyebrows
-Say man when I was growing up we wanted a Jacuzzi, we had to fart in the tub.
nothing more than anything you say
its pure BS and speculation
-Say man when I was growing up we wanted a Jacuzzi, we had to fart in the tub.
it's one of the key rules of engagement
never believe a man with no eyebrows.
I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson
Blueprint for Greatness
I am not sure at this point what is going on after the fiasco of the last few days, my head is literally spinning with all the information. One thing I do know is that if the Nets come out of this with Tyrus Thomas as their signing I think that that sign will be their Mission Accomplished banner. Wake me at 10pm tomorrow so life can resume!
What is the latest with Scola? Did he sign?
Scola might fit in better with Nets plans, but they would have to overpay for him, and he is restricted and wants to re-sign.
blue print for greatness
stop trading young talent! Do not trade twill , favors, or anyone else for cp3, graner. If thorn new what he was doing hed already be filling in holes with the remainder of the max contract lebron cant use.
basically
no one would or will take the Russian serious or the Nets.
A new owner
A new coach
A new Gm
still win just 20 games,
it’s a wrap
by killa kadafi191 on Jul 7, 2010 10:15 PM EDT reply actions
Developing Story
Fox five news and duke castiglione was playing a audio of mar berman of the new york post
Mar said its not a guarantee hes coming and that he picked that spot in conn isnt because of the knicks and also said the knicks tryed to get feedback from lebrons camp to see if he would tell them where hes going right before the show starts
now what this tells me is the knicks dont even know if hes going to the knicks
"Avery Johnson: Erase to Replace"
Net Fans We still have a Chance LEBRON IS COMING!!!!
Of course Knicks don't know nor anyone else apparently.
These guys could work for Obama. They are keeping it as big a secret as Obama’s VP announcement.
but do you believe any of these reports
because im starting to believe its all talk and just BS
"Avery Johnson: Erase to Replace"
Net Fans We still have a Chance LEBRON IS COMING!!!!
by Wall2KingJames on Jul 7, 2010 10:19 PM EDT up reply actions
I think it’s the Nets, and the Knicks are just desperate. Remember how they tried to smear us over the weekend?
remember how the nets tried to smear
the knicks by putting a billboard outside their arena?
and when i mean hes not guarantee coming i mean the knicks not nets*
"Avery Johnson: Erase to Replace"
Net Fans We still have a Chance LEBRON IS COMING!!!!
Wall
Having seen the faith you’ve held, you might like what I posted above. Just hit “Ctrl + F” and search for my name.
I gave a shot at explaining our lack of movement in FA
by Anthony Perez on Jul 7, 2010 10:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Did they even mention Nets?
Anyone smart would figure Nets could be in this race.
If Knicks realize they are out of race, they could trade DLee tonight.
LeBron to Nets doesn’t make sense though, as we know LeBron was trying to talk Bosh into coming to Cleveland recently.
This annoys me
Isn’t Lee an unrestricted free agent? Why in the world would he agree to go to the Warriors who have good pieces and are horrible + have ownership issues when he could stay at his current home and go to Nets. Make 0 sense.
by corky_romano4life on Jul 7, 2010 10:22 PM EDT up reply actions
And.
My point is that if he’s unrestricted how can the Knicks trade him? No way he agrees to that.
by corky_romano4life on Jul 7, 2010 10:22 PM EDT up reply actions
no he's unrestricted
he was an rfa last year and left money on the table to be loyal to them, which is why it’s surprising he would agree to a sign and trade after they so blatantly disrespected him.
I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson
+13,500,000
^ Lee’s salary per year I think would be nice for the Nets. But if someone else offers more give him 15 mil.
by corky_romano4life on Jul 7, 2010 10:25 PM EDT up reply actions
can we verify this?
Maybe Gina could —> is David Lee a RFA or UFA? or UFO lol
by corky_romano4life on Jul 7, 2010 10:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Thanks for the bump
It was the only way I could figure out just why the hell we’ve been so relaxed. I just couldn’t have imagined that we went into the Lebron meeting, presented all of our cards, and then afterward Thorn told Proky:
"You know, I don’t think we’re getting him."
Proky: "Damn, so what should we do?"
Thorn: "You go back to Turkey. I’ll chill and do nothing for the rest of free agency. Cool?"
Proky: "Super"
by Anthony Perez on Jul 7, 2010 10:28 PM EDT up reply actions
positive thoughts
CHILL GUYS.
David Lee is the smartest PF available. Bosh is soft. Amare, Boozer = hurt, old. Lee + Brook makes sense. If Bron wants to join, YAY! If not, we’ll do something else. Prokorov isn’t gonna just lay down and get embarassed. Let’s just enjoy this madness while it lasts and then if it ends sadly for us, we’ll be sad. Let’s stay positive till then. Also cans we stop bashing Thorn please? GO NETS!
by corky_romano4life on Jul 7, 2010 10:20 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
as far as defensive toughness, and athleticism, i dont think lee fits well next to brook, almost like two of the same players
they're really nothing alike
I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson
that
is where Favors comes in. The 3 of them can work together to form a nice front court. I think it’ll be really nice. Most underrated front court.
by corky_romano4life on Jul 7, 2010 10:23 PM EDT up reply actions
because he's an injury waiting to happen
I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson
and has happened
hurt all the time
by corky_romano4life on Jul 7, 2010 10:24 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah
but some players are more injury prone. When a player misses 30-50 games 3 times in 6 years. It’s not just random luck. Some people are plain injury prone, Boozer is because of his style of play.
I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson
no he's not
his numbers were on par with them, and he’s one of the most efficient players in the league.
I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson
Relax man
David Lee isn’t saving us, doesn’t look like Lebron’s coming we need to look forward, and expect a trade, let our young players develop.
Anthony
You post above makes tooooo much sense…thats crazy.
Thanks!
I actually thought everyone would be too jaded to take my crazy theory seriously at this point.
by Anthony Perez on Jul 7, 2010 10:25 PM EDT up reply actions
If we have to overpay for Lee
No way we touch him, if its a reasonablr price go right ahead, but it seems he will get more in a trade, so no matter how we feel, either Knicks are getting Lebron or the Warriors are getting Lee.
well because he has money coming out of his rear end?
I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson
When did he buy the home?
Why don’t you tell everyone more info on your belief that Proky is in the USA now?
Here is the LeBron section of the Daily News today. I can’t find anything on Proky.
i just played slot machine for free agents
it has lebron joining wade and bosh, david lee to the suns, amare to knicks, dirk to mavs, joe johnson to hawks, and boozer to bulls
by jaydee2327 on Jul 7, 2010 10:26 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
I was angry at first too
Because we basically stood still … which is very unusual if the Nets were really that desperate to make a splash. On top of that, we offered Boozer $5 mill less than the Bulls … there was no incentive for him to take that deal.
However, what made me come to my senses was that none of these other signings made any sense without LeBron in the mix. Its a classic chicken before the egg argument … overpay other free agents to get the grand prize in LeBron or get LeBron first and attract other free agents to NJ? The latter would definitely make more sense if LeBron really bought into it. After all, you cannot underestimate his impact on other players now and in the future. If you retain that flexibility, you can build a better team around LeBron. If you use up all your cap space now, you’re betting your future on what you have now. I really hope LeBron can see this but I’m not sure if athletes these days have this type of forward thinking.
by imdkidd on Jul 7, 2010 10:29 PM EDT reply actions 2 recs
Dude
I wish I could’ve put it that simply. I wrote this gigantic post above that explained it all with everything except an excel spreadsheet haha. I totally agree. Rec for brevity.
by Anthony Perez on Jul 7, 2010 10:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Yes, the media would have you believe there aren't 400 fans.
If Nets got David Lee and LeBron stayed in Cleveland, everything would be fine.
yeah we're out there hiding behind the paper bags
God sent us a Prokhorov, an Avery, and a FAVORS!!!!.
Chad Ochocinco knows where LeBron is going
He put on his twitter page that he knows where LeBron is going and started giving out some hints and the hint was #EMPIRE STATE OF MIND, which could only mean that hes going to the Knicks or the Nets.
Well that is a Jay-Z song...
crosses fingers
by Anthony Perez on Jul 7, 2010 10:31 PM EDT up reply actions
How could He know, but the Knicks don't know?
If the Knicks knew, they would trade DLee tonight. However, then the whole world would say that Knicks have lost out on LeBron.
And Chad Ochocinco is never wrong! In anything!!!
Lol, but seriously,stay the course!
For all we know, Lebron has talked with Proky, and they’ve decided to let David Lee go because…
…they’re signing LBJ, and then Mike Miller, and then Tyrus Thomas!
3 free agents, and perimiter shooting!!!! Lebron is coming with Tyrus Thomas and Mike Miller!!! You heard it here first!!! lol, the dream is still alive though…
God bless you, but my hope is lost...
July 1st in this b***h wuzzzzup
-Proky and Hova
by NetsMets4Life on Jul 7, 2010 10:38 PM EDT up reply actions
This is so freaking sad...
We came into the off season with so much hope and potential and set up for the most important off season in our history.,,in every way we had it set up for good things…1st pick, no…3rd, sign big free agents?, nope…we struck out on all fronts. What the fork is the front office doing? Oh yeah thats right…let the young guys develope, favors will be a beast in 2 years…wtf ever.
This was me a few hours ago
Then I REALLY thought about it. I have a long post a few spots up that might offer some hope.
by Anthony Perez on Jul 7, 2010 10:33 PM EDT up reply actions
is anybody else
TEARING THEIR HAIR OUT OF THEIR SKULL LIKE ME?? OMGGG (usher voice)
but jared dudly publicly stated
that he’s going to the knicks
on his way oto the knicks?
certainly hope not though
I dont believe this...
we will be the ones to strike out. This is just,ughhhh, this feeling cannot be described.
July 1st in this b***h wuzzzzup
-Proky and Hova
I already got my booing vuvuzela horn ready...
If Lebron doesn’t sign with us I hope he never wins a championship at all. I have high hopes for our team, and I feel that we will have a bright future ahead of us. I don’t want to ever here the name Lebron, Wade, or Bosh coming to our team ever again, because every time they come to play I’ll have that horn ready.
I hope they all fail to win a championship for the remainder of their basketball career. This may sound like something coming from a bitter fan, but I feel like all 3 of them have been driving everyone crazy with their whole free agency thing. They created nothing but chaos throughout the league.
by LetsGoNets on Jul 7, 2010 10:33 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Ray Allen signing with Celtics for 2 yrs/20mill
by Keith Van Bread on Jul 7, 2010 10:33 PM EDT reply actions
I think it's just hard
for people to figure how this effects the BronBron announcement
by Anthony Perez on Jul 7, 2010 10:35 PM EDT up reply actions
Kill us all.
J/k but this still freakin blows.
July 1st in this b***h wuzzzzup
-Proky and Hova
by NetsMets4Life on Jul 7, 2010 10:35 PM EDT up reply actions
I think we are going to be alright if the players buy in we have pretty athletic wing players and guards
If they buy into Avery which they probably will, were going to be in many games similar to what the Bucks do.
Is Anyone else ignoring something important because of this?
Seriously, I have another project that I should be working on for work and I’m totally wrapped up in this. damn you Lebron!
Even Daughtry on 1050 sounds like he is beginning to wonder if this is the end
He actually thinks LeBron could end up in New York. OH LAWD THIS IS HELL.
July 1st in this b***h wuzzzzup
-Proky and Hova
Why does noone want Scola? 16 points, 8.6 rebs.
Shouldn’t take a huge, longterm deal and no injury risk.
I have always liked him. I do not have an issue at all with him being on this team.
July 1st in this b***h wuzzzzup
-Proky and Hova
by NetsMets4Life on Jul 7, 2010 10:36 PM EDT up reply actions
true
and didn’t he drop like 40 on us one of the times we played them?
yes but it was against Yi
so you have to give him a -25 handicapp
I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson
because he hasn't been over hyped by ESPN for years
therefor he’s not a winning player.
I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson
Pelinka, who originally asked all bidders for $85 million — that’s just $7 million shy of a maximum-salaried deal — thanked Thorn and said he would get back to him at the end of the day, according to a Nets official familiar with the negotiation.
Two hours later, the Nets learned — with no warning and no recourse — that Boozer signed a five-year, $80 million deal with the Chicago Bulls.
"They never gave us a chance to match, which we probably would have done," said the official, who requested anonymity because he is not authorized to speak for the team. "We didn’t even get a chance to meet."
This cannot be happening...
July 1st in this b***h wuzzzzup
-Proky and Hova
by NetsMets4Life on Jul 7, 2010 10:36 PM EDT up reply actions
agreed
does anyone honestly think Boozer would’ve brought LeBron to the Nets? I find it hard to believe that LeBron hasn’t known what he’s doing for the last few days. Or at least since yesterday.
by Keith Van Bread on Jul 7, 2010 10:40 PM EDT up reply actions
freaking incredible
find out where that fruitcake lives and burn his HOUSE DOWN
Does that sound like the Nets have a blueprint for rebuilding (aka OKC)?
Or they are just getting owned with their actual plan?
Failure!
by No Sleep Till Brooklyn on Jul 7, 2010 10:38 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah unfortunately I have to agree with this
I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson
this is what i've been pissed about
it seems like there was really no plan B in place once everyone started getting aggressive
After being pissed, I’m fine with losing out on Boozer. I think letting Lee slip off of the market is a worse move than overpaying for Boozer since Lee’s max isn’t as much as Boozer’s. Favors is going to be good, I see some promise in him but he has some ways to go.
Still, the Nets look like they’ve been asleep at the switch or never had a chance at all with anyone. We look bad, and absolutely foolish.
I’m afraid about what will happen if Lebron goes to the Knicks. Unless we get a star ourselves, no one is going to give a darn about the Nets. So far, unless something crazy happen, the “New Nets” have bombed and will go into Brooklyn with no steam.
"No one stands on the top of the world. Not you, not me, not even gods. But the unbearable vacancy of the throne in the sky is over. From now on...I will be sitting on it."
by MrDollarBills on Jul 8, 2010 12:20 AM EDT up reply actions
Wow
Isn’t it your job as an agent to relay that back and try to push the price up?
by Anthony Perez on Jul 7, 2010 10:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Doesn't sound like a GM in control of things, much less on the verge of signing LeBron.
If he was willing to match, he should be willing to go higher on the DLee sweepstakes too.
I hope Thorn can stay up late. The same rejection could happen in the morning.
Rod seems to have a better working relationship with DLee’s agent.
I doubt if he is serious about liking Minny, but Warriors are another story.
I think Thorn mentally checked out June 30th.
by No Sleep Till Brooklyn on Jul 7, 2010 10:40 PM EDT up reply actions
You better believe the Russian won't stand for
that though. He’ll fly to Thorn’s house and get his ass up to make a deal.
by Anthony Perez on Jul 7, 2010 10:57 PM EDT up reply actions
4 him
He will never be able to live up to all the hype, the Knicks play no defense, if he thinks he can just run people out the gym he’s got another thing coming, there not winning this year, other teams will get better next year as well, it takes a team to win a Chip. If he plays like he did the last game in Cleveland he will get crushed by the media.
:(
sad face
July 1st in this b***h wuzzzzup
-Proky and Hova
by NetsMets4Life on Jul 7, 2010 10:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Nets could land...
Nobody. They are in even worse shape than they were before. They got rid of Yi who actually showed some signs of being a solid player last year. Their roster is terrible. Favors is a real long term project. They might win even less games next year. They need to get some pieces so they can compete. Even if LeBron signed it would be the worst team he has played on since his rookie season and the Nets would probably still only be a 4 or 5 seed. Prokhorov is a moron too…LeBron has just as good a chance to win with Nets as the Bulls??? Does he even look at the rosters? And this was before they had Boozer it wasn’t even close.
Unless you get LBJ in FA...you BUILD THRU THE DRAFT!!!
1. People earlier say OKC got “lucky” with Durant and Westbrook in the draft…
well, did the Blazers get “lucky” with Brandon Roy & Lamarcus Aldridge?
Hornets lucky with Chris Paul
Spurs lucky with Ginobli, Parker, & Duncan
Bulls lucky with Jordan and Pippen…
Rockets lucky with Hakeem…
I could go on and on…fact remains most of the championships won in the past 20 years have been won by teams who got high in the lottery, and chose well…that is partly good planning, and partly some luck…
good planning because they drafted well…but also because they did made sure they were not stuck in mediocrity land!!* They didn’t draft in the mid teens to get their “biggest guns,” and by signing guys like David Lee…it just takes you away from getting superstars like Durant, Westbrook, Jordan, ect.
Even Magic Johnson, Larry Bird…drafted by their teams…
Only exceptions in the last 20 years are Kobe & Shaq on the Lakers…and I admit they have a built in advantage in that city…and also 1 ring by the Celtics!!!
LBJ or rebuild through the draft!!
by irish3 on Jul 7, 2010 10:45 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Celts money player in the championship year was...
Paul Pierce drafted by his team At # 10 if im not mistaken (same draft area as Lopez and Twill)
The NETS are coming!
Imagine if LeBron announces he is going to New Jersey,
What will those teams overpaying the power forwards think?
by Jarkid Shen on Jul 7, 2010 10:38 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
chicago would be the biggest loser IMO
only because miami has wade…
"We’re the new Nets. We’re leaving the old behind and we’re in with the new. Hopefully LeBron is going to be a part of that."
-Coach Avery Johnson.
Will anyone Accpet Lebron if he signs with miami for 2 yrs and then came to brooklyn to play for the nets?
if he did that i will never root for him because if he wants to play for the nets he better come this yr and if lopez and harris need to play in newark so does lebron
lebron needs to join with us now on the ups and downs not only in brooklyn
"Avery Johnson: Erase to Replace"
Net Fans We still have a Chance LEBRON IS COMING!!!!
It would never happen
He can’t be considered a legend if he jumped ship 3 times
by Anthony Perez on Jul 7, 2010 10:41 PM EDT up reply actions
If Bron signs here, and I am the only one who still thinks he will, what would you say to me tommorrow night?
You're not the only one
But I think that whoever runs “NetsDaily” should be tracking all members who kept the faith after the Boozer news.
by Anthony Perez on Jul 7, 2010 10:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Before anyone signed today, I saw 3 different people, with one saying he had an ulcer because of this, another saying he had chest pains because of this, and NJNETS13 was tearing up last night..
where was everyone two years ago?
-Say man when I was growing up we wanted a Jacuzzi, we had to fart in the tub.
Lupo, I am still in the boat with you!!!
I have my doubts, but push comes to shove…I’m here…it just makes no sense to me for him to go anywhere else…
…I just don’t think he is altruistic enough to stay in CLE…
…not dumb enough to go on the worst roster in the league and guarentee himself he never wins rings with the KNICKS….
…to ego-centric to sign up with a “stacked” BULLS team OR MIAMI team…
It is the Nets!
Beatles references make me smile.
I would quote A Day In The Life, but I don’t want to give anyone ideas.
we sign LeBron in 2010, sign Melo in 2011
so we will have a new roster
Harris
James
Anthony
Favors
Lopez
That's NBA 2K stuff right there
You just can’t have that many max guys on one squad.
by Anthony Perez on Jul 7, 2010 10:44 PM EDT up reply actions
nets were looking for two max’s this year, plus anthony plays well off the ball, would compliment lebron better than wade
yeah I agree
to me I think Carmelo is more of a great complementary pieces than a guy on Wade/Lebrons level.
I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson
I mean not complementary in the way that a guy like Lee is
but closer to Lamar than Kobe if that makes sense.
I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson
oh, sorry
I was thinking of eventually having to re-up Lopez at a HIGH price considering he would be one of the few talented true 5’s in the L, thus making it tough financially to have them all
by Anthony Perez on Jul 7, 2010 10:51 PM EDT up reply actions
you can go over resigning your own players
I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson
and we got a Russian billionaire to do so, when teams like the Suns and Jazz let their guys walk!!!
Lebron would be stupid to miss out on this…
Kinda funny
@tarheelbelco: “ya’ll hear about the Lebron James iPhone? it comes with no ring.”
by No Sleep Till Brooklyn on Jul 7, 2010 10:44 PM EDT reply actions
That would be so whack
Going to Miami is such a cop out.
by Anthony Perez on Jul 7, 2010 10:47 PM EDT up reply actions
BREAKING NEWS
Lebron flying to miami to meet with Riley
per ric bucher
i guess stephan a. smith sources are smart sources
"Avery Johnson: Erase to Replace"
Net Fans We still have a Chance LEBRON IS COMING!!!!
I want to see this happen so badly.
It would be the most top heavy roster in the history of anything.
i ust don't see him going to nj/ny
if it is what he wants you to think then he isn’t gonna do it
Since the face been revealed the game got real
lol I kind of want to see it too
it’s insanity.
I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson
it would also save our necks
"No one stands on the top of the world. Not you, not me, not even gods. But the unbearable vacancy of the throne in the sky is over. From now on...I will be sitting on it."
by MrDollarBills on Jul 8, 2010 12:21 AM EDT up reply actions
Was lebron in NY today ? im starting to think these are all BS because ive been reading he was in NY today then CHI then LA and now going to MIA
"Avery Johnson: Erase to Replace"
Net Fans We still have a Chance LEBRON IS COMING!!!!
Need to post for everyone Dave D. article from 10 PM.
The Dave D. article mentioned above needs to get listed with this story:
http://www.nj.com/nets/index.ssf/2010/07/nets_stunned_by_carlos_boozers.html
It says that Lee’s agent is going crazy now, with things changing by the hour.
Price for Lee was around $76 million for Lee.
Thorn will have to answer for not getting Boozer and also for not getting Lee.
Dave D. doesn’t think he will pay the $76 million, but that figure could rise.
DLee could have been had for much cheaper in the past days.
Thorn quit on this team.
Should have just left on June 30th.
by No Sleep Till Brooklyn on Jul 7, 2010 11:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Thorn should have been fired if this was the case
"No one stands on the top of the world. Not you, not me, not even gods. But the unbearable vacancy of the throne in the sky is over. From now on...I will be sitting on it."
by MrDollarBills on Jul 8, 2010 12:21 AM EDT up reply actions
If LeBron is going to Miami, then what is the point of watching ESPN tomorrow?
Thorn better sign DLee before Knicks trade him. Price has just gone up for DLee.
Maybe that is what Lee’s agent was referring to.
David Stern wouldn't let all 3 go to Miami, would he?
I mean, that RUINS the league for nearly a decade. A DECADE.
July 1st in this b***h wuzzzzup
-Proky and Hova
Lebron James:I Will Be Choosing the NEW JERSEY NETS
this will be everyones reaction no including nets fans
"Avery Johnson: Erase to Replace"
Net Fans We still have a Chance LEBRON IS COMING!!!!
by Wall2KingJames on Jul 7, 2010 10:55 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
ive been saying its between the nets and knicks i really didnt think the bulls or heat were in it, i believe people on espn just wanted to give love to those 2 teams
"Avery Johnson: Erase to Replace"
Net Fans We still have a Chance LEBRON IS COMING!!!!
Remember couple wks ago a NBA player said lebron wanted to come to the nets..Does anyone know who that player is and should we believe him
"Avery Johnson: Erase to Replace"
Net Fans We still have a Chance LEBRON IS COMING!!!!
OK, where did you hear that? If you are correct, this could turn out to be the link everyone’s looking for.
Found it, I would like to say I trust Alan Hahn.
July 1st in this b***h wuzzzzup
-Proky and Hova
by NetsMets4Life on Jul 7, 2010 11:10 PM EDT up reply actions
lupo
i appreciate your undying positivity and hopeful comments, but part of me can’t help but think you’re a Knicks fan pumping up some of the fans here, just so you can pop em. I hope it’s not, and that this whole fiasco has got me paranoid.
Lebron is going to knicks or to the cavs
the nets are not a reality
by killa kadafi191 on Jul 7, 2010 11:00 PM EDT reply actions
Lol...I still say if he signs with the Nets he'd end up with more titles than with Miami
Wade will be 29 in a few months…
…if he signs with the Nets it’ll be tougher, but very possible, to win a title in the next two years…
….but after that, as our young CORE develops, as Wade enters his 30’s, and as Proky goes over the luxury tax to sign FA’s galore at the mid-level exception…
…I say LBJ could win a lot of titles in NJ
danmmmmm i m crying right now
no lebron
whyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
please god i hope that he still comes
LETS GOOOOO!!!!! just about 20-19 more hrs
going to sleep in a good positive way
people dont go to sleep thinking were not getting him because when you wake up ur not going to feel good about this day
"Avery Johnson: Erase to Replace"
Net Fans We still have a Chance LEBRON IS COMING!!!!
Blueprint for Greatness
Nets assess options
After losing out on Carlos Boozer(notes) to the Chicago Bulls, the New Jersey Nets have targeted three players in discussions: Tyrus Thomas(notes), Travis Outlaw(notes) and Kyle Korver(notes), league sources told Yahoo! Sports.
http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;_ylt=Ah6Y2TngydX.QaQQobEdzT28vLYF?slug=ys-freeagentbuzz070710
What a joke.
by No Sleep Till Brooklyn on Jul 7, 2010 11:06 PM EDT reply actions
this is a blue print for a nightmare
I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson
I'm glad you are starting to see why i'm upset.
It has nothing to do with being a true Nets fan. I love the Nets.
The FO is proving to be incompetent.
by No Sleep Till Brooklyn on Jul 7, 2010 11:08 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah this is ridiculous
this sounds more like their flying by the seat of their pants with no plan, organization or direction. I mean I can understand looking into adding veterans like Korver, or maybe taking a flyer on Outlaw if he comes cheaply, but Thomas. Haven’t we learned out lessons with head cases? There’s so many veteran types, or flyer takes they can take a chance with if they don’t want to break the bank, and they seem to only be looking at the most “get what you see” types.
I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson
according to Net Income a week or so ago
our top scouts contracts all ran out and have yet to be renewed…so who exactly is guiding these choices. Are they just going to ESPN’s FA list and picking the names they remember hearing the most?
I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson
or maybe
This falls in with my giant theory above. Maybe this is what we can get with the extra cap we have have left over after getting Lebron and Lee, use a few dollar bills on a 3 point shooter.
by Anthony Perez on Jul 7, 2010 11:10 PM EDT up reply actions
Is this a joke?
Thomas as a stop gap?
They must want to be in the top 3 again.
"No one stands on the top of the world. Not you, not me, not even gods. But the unbearable vacancy of the throne in the sky is over. From now on...I will be sitting on it."
by MrDollarBills on Jul 8, 2010 12:23 AM EDT up reply actions
Also
The Net have a strong interest in Knicks forward David Lee(notes), but they’re still waiting for the sign-and-trade market to shake down for him.
Keep waiting Thorn. It’s worked well so far.
by No Sleep Till Brooklyn on Jul 7, 2010 11:07 PM EDT reply actions 2 recs
rec this man
I have no problem with them signing Lee. He’s cheaper than the other overpaid guys and he can be of some use for us for the next few seasons while this team develops.
I don’t see it happening now though. We’ve been done in
"No one stands on the top of the world. Not you, not me, not even gods. But the unbearable vacancy of the throne in the sky is over. From now on...I will be sitting on it."
by MrDollarBills on Jul 8, 2010 12:24 AM EDT up reply actions
okay if we sign tyrus thomas
im storming hq with a pitchfork
I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson
http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;_ylt=Ah6Y2TngydX.QaQQobEdzT28vLYF?slug=ys-freeagentbuzz070710
After losing out on Carlos Boozer(notes) to the Chicago Bulls, the New Jersey Nets have targeted three players in discussions: Tyrus Thomas(notes), Travis Outlaw(notes) and Kyle Korver(notes), league sources told Yahoo! Sports.
From LBJ,Boozer,Bosh to Thomas,Outlaw, and Korver. YES!
After hearing all about DLee’s loyalty to the NY area, why is Golden State suddenly an option? I could see if he was still under contract and just looking for a trade, but to CHOOSE that team?! Over the Nets?! How bad are we???
by JohnFromLongIsland on Jul 7, 2010 11:09 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
We are low balling him.
Just like we did Boozer.
by No Sleep Till Brooklyn on Jul 7, 2010 11:10 PM EDT up reply actions
DUDE....
We didn’t LOW ball Boozer, he and his agent stuck it to us, just like they did to the CAVS the last go around… $75M is not a low ball, when you consider that he signed for $80, and in some cirles they are saying he actually signed for $75M with the BULLS… They never came back to the NETS, and we were the first ones who made an offer in the first place!
He was asking for 85.
We offered him 75.
Bulls offered him 80.
Don’t try to nickle and dime guys at this point in the game.
by No Sleep Till Brooklyn on Jul 7, 2010 11:40 PM EDT up reply actions
YOU DON"T GET IT...
Forget it, you’re right I’m wrong, doesn’t matter we didn’t get him, we need to move on, as crappy as it is…
started to have a little hope again...
…but I thought about how the Nets got desperate and looked Boozer’s way for a minute, then he gets the offer from CHI and doesn’t even give the Nets a chance.
We’ll have to get used to hearing about Lebron’s triple-doubles in a Knick Uniform for the next 5 years.
@ Lupo
the only thing is…. do the nets believe they are getting lebron….cuz frm the way it looks… they are scrambling…
Lupo just believes in my long ass post above
^^
by Anthony Perez on Jul 7, 2010 11:11 PM EDT up reply actions
They should just get rid of Thorn now.
Thanks, but no thanks.
Don’t let the door hit you on the way out.
by No Sleep Till Brooklyn on Jul 7, 2010 11:12 PM EDT up reply actions
wow the Russian is horrible
the nets lost and i will have to get use to hearing that again
by killa kadafi191 on Jul 7, 2010 11:13 PM EDT reply actions
lol
One source says privately that winning a NBA championship "was not Lebron’s primary consideration" in choosing the Knicks.
I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson
by Gina on Jul 7, 2010 11:16 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
CAN YOU BELIEVE THIS???
This HAS TO BE FAKE
July 1st in this b***h wuzzzzup
-Proky and Hova
by NetsMets4Life on Jul 7, 2010 11:16 PM EDT up reply actions
no I'd believe it
cause anyone who signs with the knicks certainly couldn’t be thinking about contending for a championship
I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson
ROFL
KILL ME NOW
July 1st in this b***h wuzzzzup
-Proky and Hova
by NetsMets4Life on Jul 7, 2010 11:17 PM EDT up reply actions
This has gotta be all planted
Notice how none of the “sources” saying LeBron to Knicks are not from news outlets, since LeBron to Knicks doesn’t make logical sense
Logical how?
It’s going to be a HUGE news story.
by No Sleep Till Brooklyn on Jul 7, 2010 11:23 PM EDT up reply actions
So what the hell is bossip.com?
A gossip site?
not "that" Jersey Shore...Point Pleasant, 10 refreshing miles north of Seaside.
by John at the Jersey Shore on Jul 7, 2010 11:30 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
im jus saying...... the nets
dont seem exactly “in the loop”……. either that…..or we have the best poker players on the planet…..
@ Lupo
u’re the only reason why im holding onto a glimmer of hope…. if you’re wrong….. well we shall talk about that later
if thorn spends our cap money
on tyrus thomas and kyle korver and then retires. He will officially overtake Al Davis as the #1 troll in sports.
I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson
if he leaves the organization like this
i dont care if he hates Proky…. Net fans will not allow him to sly away so easily
by blazin pp face on Jul 7, 2010 11:18 PM EDT up reply actions
how much do you honestly think thorn would spend on thomas?
i really doubt he would overpay for him. plus, just because he’s being mentioned doesn’t mean they’re actively pursuing him. thorn is not stupid, he’s not going to overpay for thomas, that guy certainly isn’t gonna get us into the playoffs so why not just go with what we have (assuming no david lee).
plus, i kinda like the korver possibility. why aren’t they looking at anthony morrow?
by Keith Van Bread on Jul 7, 2010 11:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Read the article.
The Nets would have to front load the contract to get the Bobcats not to match.
Sound like a value deal to you?
by No Sleep Till Brooklyn on Jul 7, 2010 11:20 PM EDT up reply actions
true
i just don’t see thorn doing something stupid like that. unless he’s really just going like OH SH— WE’RE NOT GONNA HAVE A STARTING PF speculation is still just speculation.
by Keith Van Bread on Jul 7, 2010 11:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Woj has great Nets sources.
I believe his list.
by No Sleep Till Brooklyn on Jul 7, 2010 11:24 PM EDT up reply actions
what was his list
I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson
oh nevermind I misread the thread
I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson
Dolan got $20 mil richer off the hype
by No Sleep Till Brooklyn on Jul 7, 2010 11:17 PM EDT reply actions
It's a lot of movement.
I am just saying now, do not be shocked if James picks the Knicks tomorrow.
I would almost call it a lock.
by No Sleep Till Brooklyn on Jul 7, 2010 11:22 PM EDT up reply actions
I would too
just cause the sports gods don’t ever want me to be happy
I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson
You know what...
…I can’t hate the Knicks. They did what we should have been doing.
They were aggressive. We were passive.
Losers wait, winners go get.
by No Sleep Till Brooklyn on Jul 7, 2010 11:25 PM EDT up reply actions
meh I disagree
I don’t think they did what we should be doing at all. I think they just got lucky Lebron is fascinated by their name and they play in NY. Signing Amar’e to that deal was insanity/desperation. The reason he jumped at it was because he had zero chance of getting it from any other team.
I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson
You miss 100 percent of the shots you never take.
Wayne Gretzky
by No Sleep Till Brooklyn on Jul 7, 2010 11:30 PM EDT up reply actions
How much did the Nets lose last year?
60 million?
How much are the Knicks paying Amare this year? 16 million?
by No Sleep Till Brooklyn on Jul 7, 2010 11:32 PM EDT up reply actions
we'd be losing even more giving Amar'e that contract.
I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson
You lose money by not selling tickets moreso than player’s salaries.
by No Sleep Till Brooklyn on Jul 7, 2010 11:34 PM EDT up reply actions
im pretty sure all the owners would disagree
considering how drastically they want the CBA changed…and the fact that virtually every club is losing money. Locking yourself into an albatross contract a year before a major CBA change is about to happen is kind of a horrible decision financially no matter how you look at it.
I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson
Teams are losing so much money..
…yet the cap went up and owners are throwing contracts out like they have endless amounts of capital.
Something doesn’t add up.
by No Sleep Till Brooklyn on Jul 7, 2010 11:41 PM EDT up reply actions
the only owners/teams who have thrown money
around, are the ones generally considered poor organizations/insane owners. The knicks, memphis, the hawks, not exactly top tier organizations.
I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson
oh and minnesota
you don’t see any organizations considered quality or to have above average front offices throwing around ludicrous amounts of money.
I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson
And the cap going up?
Which is based on basketball related income.
by No Sleep Till Brooklyn on Jul 7, 2010 11:45 PM EDT up reply actions
its based on revenue
which isn’t equal to profits. Revenue can go up and they can still being losing even more money. (Just for example EA, a video game company, made the fortune 500 list after a year when they ended 1 billion in the red.)
I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson
I am familiar with the diffrence between profit and revenue
But a keep piece to their argument was decreasing revenue due to the economy being down.
Google this years cap number. There are several articles on how it will hurt the NBA’s position in in CBA talks next year.
by No Sleep Till Brooklyn on Jul 7, 2010 11:49 PM EDT up reply actions
the cap can go up
without the majority of teams seeing increases. It’s a major point of contention in the NFL, the top 2-3 make so much more money than everyone else that they drive up the cap rate too fast for the rest to keep up.
I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson
And here is the link of the story about an NBA player saying Bron is going to Nets from about a week ago
July 1st in this b***h wuzzzzup
-Proky and Hova
Nope
Just a player who says “break the news the Lebron will go to jersey, cause that looks like that is what will happen.”
July 1st in this b***h wuzzzzup
-Proky and Hova
by NetsMets4Life on Jul 7, 2010 11:25 PM EDT up reply actions
A lot has happened since then.
The Nets executed worst in the FO, then they did on the court last year.
by No Sleep Till Brooklyn on Jul 7, 2010 11:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Hers is the Stephen Brody article you mentioned lupojohn3
http://www.nydailynews.com/blogs/nets/
Nothing about Proky being in USA.
It says all bad things and says that the only way DLee is coming to Nets is if LeBron goes to Knicks.
Now we know what the Nets exec meant by waiting for the S&T market to “shake down”.
It means Thorn expects LeBron to go to Knicks.
Time to give up.
AMEN! On someone with credibility speaking the truth already!!!!
From ESPN.com
“It’s gotten ridiculous,” Orlando coach Stan Van Gundy said. "It’s almost like a parody of itself, this whole situation now. Come on, an hour long? It takes 15 seconds to say I’ve decided to stay in Cleveland but we’ve got another 59 minutes and 45 seconds to, what? Promote LeBron James?
“As if we don’t do that enough. Look, the guy’s a great player and wherever he goes, my bet would be Cleveland, that place will be excited. But an hour-long special?”
too bad he is the wrong james.
July 1st in this b***h wuzzzzup
-Proky and Hova
by NetsMets4Life on Jul 7, 2010 11:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Get over not having Bosh
It may behoove us to take a look at Bosh’s NBA career to date. He was drafted in 2003, just like LeBron was. He has won a total of three playoff games in seven seasons. He has not played a playoff game since 2008. He has been named to the All-NBA second team once. He has fewer player of the month awards than LeBron has MVPs. He was the starting power forward for the worst defensive team in basketball last season. This dude is NOT a franchise player…
thats a complete joke
he hasn’t won play-off games because he plays for a horrible franchise. Judging individual players on play-off records is absurd.
I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson
agreed
But I think the rest of his arguments are sound. Bosh is a #2 guy
by Keith Van Bread on Jul 7, 2010 11:45 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah I think he's #2
but I think he’s top tier #2, better than every other big men in the market and probably a top 5 big men, I’d have to go through every team to make sure I wasn’t forgetting someone but I think he’s close.
I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson
Prediction for the rest of the offseason
Nets cannot get a GM to sign on, promote Marks.
Nets cannot ink any real FA’s, over pay a couple guys with potential, hope Avery can develop them.
Avery talks about molding these guys into men
Nets lose 50-60 games and we are hoping for ping-pong balls to improve our destiny again next year.
by No Sleep Till Brooklyn on Jul 7, 2010 11:37 PM EDT reply actions
Can someone please tell me
what is our plan now?
Get Lee?
Trade for players?
Sit and watch us go for 13-69?
I need some optimism here and its difficult. Any one have any legit ideas that actually work? I mean with all of this cap space are we looking to trade?
Fire Thorn, he's been incapable for many years. He should retire right now.
His best skill is waiting.
Signing Kevin Pritchard
would be more important for the Nets than signing Bosh.
Pritchard would build this team to be successful for years to come.
Just look at what he has done for the Blazers.
THIS FRANCHISE IS A JOKE
Will this get me banned at Nets Daily?
If it does so be it, but I’m telling it like it is, like it or not, and here’s what it is …
THIS FRANCHISE IS A PATHETIC JOKE
Knicks must be looking at that billboard now and LTA’sO
JAY-Z Got Clowned
Proko Got Clowned
Thorn Got Clowned
Avery Got Clowned
This whole pathetic joke of an organization is riding in the same clown car tonite!
The Nets and that STUPID BILLBOARD are literally the laughing stocks of the NBA tonite
REAL TALK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
You know it, I know it, Dolan knows it, EVERYBODY KNOWS IT
And it all started with that dumb draft pick, selecting a 2-3 Year Project at #3 Overall
That started the ball rolling, that and the inability to deal the pick and players for CP3
Next was out GM announcing his retirement a few days before free agency (ARE YOU KIDDING ME!!)
Next was the inability to clear enough cap space for two max FA’s and signing an impact PF to further intice LaBron
And it ends with the Nets HOLDING THE BAG, pocket full of money and no-one worth spending it on!
WHAT A JOKE
WHAT AN ABSOLUTE JOKE
WHAT A PATHETIC JOKE OF AN ORGNIZATION
Oh Yeah, and Proko along with JAY-Z have both been exposed as absolute frauds
Two Clowns who talk a good game but can’t deliever JACK!!
Un-friggin-believable
by Dobermite on Jul 7, 2010 11:40 PM EDT reply actions 2 recs
I hate what you are saying.
But it is true.
by No Sleep Till Brooklyn on Jul 7, 2010 11:42 PM EDT up reply actions
One other thing
Signing Tyrus Thomas, Kover or some other Joe Average clown will only make this organization seem ever more pathetic than it already does, AND THAT IS NO EASY TASK
by Dobermite on Jul 7, 2010 11:45 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
could be worse
we could have picked wes johnson
by wb415 on Jul 7, 2010 11:47 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
True.
Favors and D. James are probably the only things that went right this offseason.
by No Sleep Till Brooklyn on Jul 7, 2010 11:49 PM EDT up reply actions
My plan is get Bron, convince him it’s a great-long term fit for him, promise him Carmelo or CP3 next year, get him some young talent in the draft, keep getting him quality FA, work some trades, and there you go.
How do you convince the best player in the game...
…that it is a great long term fit when…
1. Your all-world GM is walking away from the team before the franchise most important hour.
2. No GM’s will sign on
3. You cannot sign one meaningful FA
by No Sleep Till Brooklyn on Jul 7, 2010 11:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Also, the team had 12 wins last season.
This is over, isn’t it?
July 1st in this b***h wuzzzzup
-Proky and Hova
by NetsMets4Life on Jul 7, 2010 11:47 PM EDT up reply actions
1. Let him pick the GM. Show him the list, and let him decide.
2. See above.
3. Promise him CP3 or Carmelo, and he can be a part of the presentation himself next time.
No matter who he signs with, he’s not winning a title this year……..or probably next year, for that matter. He knows by the time the team is ready to contend for a title, the team will be in Brooklyn. He’ll have everything he wants: The keys to hte kingdom(NYC), a championship-caliber team, and more money than he could shake a stick at. Once again, it’s not about a 1 or 2 year plan. It’s for the next 5-10 years. That’s how i’d convince him, but apparently, convincing him was not hard, seeing his reaction(in the papers) to the presentation.
All is not necessarily lost...
Perhaps Rod might be able to interest Bird in Devo, Humphries and a couple picks for Danny Granger and Troy Murphy.
They’d be getting the all-star point they want, cap relief, and picks
And the Nets get an all-star three, a decent stopgap and Jersey boy at the four..
They’d still have about 21mil to play with, and Ray Felton is available, as is
Khryapa, Childress, Nate Robinson, and a lot of decent bench players..
It’s not Lebron, but hey, life goes on…
the all-star point?
I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson
Do the Granger trade
Granger as our starting SF, trade for him and TJ ford for Harris and Favors…I dont think Favors will have a good career. Then start to sign some people. Granger is a much more effective player then harris./
No he's not not at all
he’s an inefficient scorer just like Harris, except he’s not even as good a passer as Harris. Granger is not someone worth making a big trade for.
I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson
cmon the guy hasn't
played a game yet and you are predicting his career?
Since the face been revealed the game got real
Have no fear... _AVI_ LEE IS COMING!!!!!!!
Lebron is going to NYC to be part of the greatest pick and roll combo in NBA history with STAT! Damn with Gallinari knocking down them threes, the Knicks will be absolutley unguardable.
I love Lee. He is ambidexterous, so he finishes extremley well around the rim with both hands. His mid range game is money and is a solid passer for a big man. On the other hand his defense is atrocious and he complains over every call.
Anyway, Lebron is coming to the Knicks we all know that. Again, I will miss Lee, enjoy being his 2nd choice (he wants to stay). Anyway, if greatness is considered 30 wins, Lee and the Nets will certainly be “greatness.” You missed out on Wall and Turner and picked the future bust of the draft and will miss out on King James too. So much for converting Knicks fans to Nets fans. Enjoy Newark! KNICKS FANS ARE DIEHARD… we support our team through the good and the bad. just wanted to add that.
I'm Glad You Posted This, Gallo
Nets fans need to know how much people are laughing at them tonite
They need to understand what a complete laughing stock the Nets are following this debacle
could be worse
we could have drafted wes johnson
by wb415 on Jul 7, 2010 11:56 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
you lost all credibility
when you said knick fans are diehard fans
The Knicks were....
5th in attendance and we won 29 games…. seems like die hards to me. NETS WERE 30TH….. LOLLLLLL
Yeah its all "die hard fan"
There in suite and tie
Nets played in a swamp with no mass transit
atleast be fair when spitting out numbers
Since the face been revealed the game got real
Really hope Lebron signs with anyone but the Knicks
Don’t care who. Just need to get you people off your high horse. Last time I knew, we were in 2 NBA finals more recently than you all.
by Anthony Perez on Jul 7, 2010 11:58 PM EDT up reply actions
and you lost
both. second is the first loser. but if your content with losing in the finals, congrats.
Last time I checked
The last time the Knicks were in the Finals they lost too.
by Anthony Perez on Jul 7, 2010 11:59 PM EDT up reply actions
Wouldn't 2nd be the last loser actually?
Being as though they are the last two teams playing in the NBA…hmmmm
lol
the point is you lost. means nothing to me.
Something the Knicks are familiar with.
Didn’t you guys have one of, if not the worst records over the last decade?
by No Sleep Till Brooklyn on Jul 8, 2010 12:04 AM EDT up reply actions
Knicks fans are the least loyal fans of any team in the NBA.
I live one subway stop from MSG and I’m a basketball fanatic. I don’t know anyone who went to more than 1 Knicks game this year.
And then there’s that urban myth about Knicks tickets: a guy couldn’t give away his tickets, so he left them on the windshield of a car on the street, underneath one of the wipers. The next day, he walked by the car and there was another pair of tickets with the pair that he left. A Knick fan told me that story/joke.
Give us a break and stick to the Knicks’ sites.
Proky is going to have the hardest time
Delivering a championship in 5 years.
World Series attitude, champagne bottle life, nothing every changes so tonight is like tomorrow night.
Championship?
This team will be LUCKY to win 15 Games next year, and the Tyrus Thomas’s and Kover’s of the world are not changing that one iota
by Dobermite on Jul 7, 2010 11:56 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
They got unlucky last year.
They’ll win like 20 this year. As if it makes a difference but whatever.
World Series attitude, champagne bottle life, nothing every changes so tonight is like tomorrow night.
This is SO simple guys
Though “simplicity” contradicts the book I wrote earlier (which was rec’d, thanks guys!) it comes down to this:
He’s coming to New York or New Jersey.
1) He’s announcing it in Greenwich, CT, home of Jay-Z and Alan Houston. Why else would he choose Greenwich aside from misdirection (that would piss off both Knicks and Nets)
2) OchoCinco tweeted “Empire State of Mind” which could mean NY or NJ because Jay Z made the song.
Oh and either way, screw Lebron for all this damn drama lol
Jared Dudley tweeted that he's going to the knicks...
Hmm, I wonder who would have that kind of inside information…
by BubbaMcBubba on Jul 7, 2010 11:59 PM EDT up reply actions
Dudley's a bum
Who is bringing that guy in the loop?
by Anthony Perez on Jul 8, 2010 12:01 AM EDT up reply actions
would it be.....
the five time all star pf the knicks are about to sign? hmmmmmmm
Lebron had this
planned from the begining, I really believe that. If you notice at different times since July 1st, each team he was considering was at one time the front runner except la. His people have been feeding mis- information from day one. This has been about his ego and we all fell in his lap. I think it is a disgrace what he is doing to Cleveland. I think this will and I hope it affects him negatively
Since the face been revealed the game got real
The Nets greatest day is coming tomorrow
I’ve been a fan for many years and when a moment like this happens you have to love it. Better yet I take comfort in seeing it coming as opposed to so many fans that are worried about our future and the fact that nothing has happened so far with free agency. Rejoice Nets fans tomorrow will be one of the greatest days in Net history.
Maybe LeBron is in cahoots with David Stern
and his master plan is to make the fans of several teams think he’s going to their team, thereby helping each team to sell more tickets before he announces. Okay, I’m kidding.
Seriously Rod?
The Warriors won’t offer Lee a max deal, but one source suggested Golden State’s ceiling is a six-year deal starting at about $13 million. New Jersey is still an option, also the Minnesota Timberwolves — who Lee visited earlier this month and was reportedly impressed.
by No Sleep Till Brooklyn on Jul 8, 2010 12:03 AM EDT reply actions
Why trade Favors NOW?
I see some posts suggesting deals for Favors, but what would be the point of it now?
This is no point.
The only reason you trade a player like Favors is if you intend to start winning right away, but after this debacle of an off-season this team is LIGHT YEARS away from winning, so we might as well ride it out with the neophytes now.
And I’m not even a Favors Guy … I hated the pick … but now it only makes sense to keep him and hope he becomes what you hope he becomes.
IMO trading him now would be a pure panic move that makes no sense for a team in transition.
watch the simpsons =)
it’ll clear your heads
by blazin pp face on Jul 8, 2010 12:06 AM EDT up reply actions
Interesting
Lebron may only sign with the Knicks for 3 years.
by No Sleep Till Brooklyn on Jul 8, 2010 12:07 AM EDT reply actions
http://twitter.com/incarceratedbob
I know it seems silly, but look at the dates of some of his predictions.
A few days before we heard anything in the national media.
There is always a bunch of traffic, such as security details, that give these things away.
by No Sleep Till Brooklyn on Jul 8, 2010 12:10 AM EDT up reply actions
Not that i think its going to happen… because i honestly think the nets are a bust for this FA… but for all you who are just completely bashing the nets over this… what are you gonna say if the lebron does come to the nets?
still believe he will come
But that’s just hoping for the best. I am more inclined to prepare for the worst.
i haven’t said anything bad here whats to say bad lebron had an adgenda. Lebron knew where he wanted to go before free agency started I know that now, hes been messing around to hype himself up. So those meetings last week meant nothing imo where ever he goes he already knew he was going there
Since the face been revealed the game got real
Jared Dudley's tweet is messing with me
Jared Dudley, who played with Amar’e on the Suns, tweeted these:
Breaking News!!! My sources tell me Lebron will announce that he will be goin to the NY KNICKS tomorrow on ESPN.. This is serious.. WOW!!!!
That’s what I’m hearing.. I don’t care where he goes lol.. I personally thought he would stay in Cleveland..
Jay-Z's plan of having LBJ play for the Knicks for 3 years then the Nets may be coming to fruition.
I feel really bad for Cavs fans, the head coach, the front office, and all the players who are going to be playing on a garbage team almost as bad as the Nets next season. Every time the Cavs come to the Nets, we should cheer every one of their starting five during introductions.
No way Lopez resigns with us at this rate. He’ll go play anywhere but here. This franchise obviously doesn’t want to win anytime soon.
Imagine if Damion James averages like 26.3 ppg, 10.7 rpg, and 1.6 apg as our starting small forward next season and beats out John Wall for rookie of the year.
How sick would that be?
if no top agents
then i want us lottery bound
by blazin pp face on Jul 8, 2010 12:16 AM EDT up reply actions
Sign a couple guys with playoff experience to 1 yr contracts
so our young ones can make the playoffs and have playoff experience
like like except thomas
hope we still get lee here
"We’re the new Nets. We’re leaving the old behind and we’re in with the new. Hopefully LeBron is going to be a part of that."
-Coach Avery Johnson.
Sigh
It has been a disappointing off-season to say the least. Yeah we have a coach, and a staff, and owner, and drafted ok. Other than that…I don’t know what else to say… If we lost LBJ then the only move that will make me happy is Pritchard. If he goes to the knicks… that poster will be more of a joke then the 12 win season last year.
I am still a Nets Fan but I tell you… this is getting unbearable at times.
Tyrus Thomas = Sean Williams on the nights he was good
Kyle Korver=hahahaha
Travis Outlaw=will be breaking the law with Tyrus Thomas since he’ll have nothing to do as his team will be 4-49 again
Not the offseason we hoped for
To be honest, If we cant get any of the big 3, lets not waste our money on guys Like Thomas, Korver. Lets keep the money in our pocket and hope the young guys grow up and if possible do a S&T later on for someone who may not resign with their club.
Overall, a lot of smoke but no fire this offseason.
Derrick Favors Season-By-Season Stats According to the Posters on Here
Year: 10-11
PPG: 8.7
RPG: 4.4
BPG: 1.3
FoulsPG: 4.7
Year: 11-12
PPG: 16.6
RPG: 8.9
BPG: 2.8
FoulsPG: 3.8
Year: 12-13
PPG: 23.5
RPG: 11.9
BPG: 3.7
FoulsPG: 2.9
Does anyone honestly think this will come true?
Agreed
We would be lucky to hit year two’s production in year three.
by No Sleep Till Brooklyn on Jul 8, 2010 12:24 AM EDT up reply actions
Dobermite
You are angry tonight which is getting me angry because you are right! Here we sit with nothing in our hands but you know what! Thorn killed us with his retirement news, could have waited three weeks. And to lose a guy who already owns a house in Jersey for 5mill, a joke. Dolan must laugh evrytime he sees the billboard. Maybe we should open up the blueprints for greatness and actually read the things!
Thanks NAA
I’m furious
I can’t believe this team has 32 million to spend and couldn’t land ONE FA worth spending on.
UNREAL
Even for the Nets this is unreal
I never dreamed this team would walk away from free agency with NOTHING (worth having)
THE ONE AND ONLY THING THAT IS KEEPING ME GOING IS
that presentation. I hope it truly was a deal breaker. Or it at least made LeBron think long and hard. I still trust in Proky, Jay-Z, and Avery. I am bit upset about Thorn, though, his departure truly could not have come at a worse time. I do not know what he was thinking.
July 1st in this b***h wuzzzzup
-Proky and Hova
HOW does LeBron sign with the Knicks with the Blueprint For Greatness right there? HOW???
July 1st in this b***h wuzzzzup
-Proky and Hova
This team has been overconfident !!!!!!
They didn’t respect Amare, Boozer … and in the last minute, they got NONE … what a joke.
I don't think Avery Johnson will be happy
when he sees Tyrus Thomas smokin pot in the locker room with Derrick Favors.
Twill will be sleeping on the clubhouse couch, Lopez will be watching disney channel and devin harris will be demanding a trade. brett yormark will be trying to courtney lee to deliver more pizzas and maybe will ask Damion James to pump some gas at a Teaneck gas station.
garret siler will be harassing sly fox for some of the burritos that will be shot into the stands later during the game.
by giacomo on Jul 8, 2010 12:27 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
HAHAHAHHA
SOO FUNNY THANK YOU I NEEDED THAT but Avery didnt mind Josh Howard
sadly, the tone of this post will not be far from the truth
I don’t know if the kids can stand another demoralizing season like last years. Failing to improve the team is probably going to cause harris to check out early, and Lopez may not be far behind,.
This is far more damaging than some of you folks realize, especially if James plays in MSG,
"No one stands on the top of the world. Not you, not me, not even gods. But the unbearable vacancy of the throne in the sky is over. From now on...I will be sitting on it."
by MrDollarBills on Jul 8, 2010 12:33 AM EDT up reply actions
Brook made me LOL
July 1st in this b***h wuzzzzup
-Proky and Hova
by NetsMets4Life on Jul 8, 2010 12:33 AM EDT up reply actions
I HOPE NOT
I hope they leave it up there so the NY media can mock them and laugh at them the way they deserve to be mocked and ridiculed.
How bout Proky?
We knew Thorn’s contract was up all year long. How does a BILLIONAIRE like Proky not do whatever it takes to make sure he stays on for one more year? How does Proky not have someone in place? How does he spend the week Jetskiing while other teams are signing Power Forwards?
At the very least, Ratner/Thorn/Kiki did put the Nets in a situation where they were the frontrunners to make the biggest F/A splash? Guess who was too busy splashing around the Turkish Mediterranean to ever follow up?
Enjoy Tyrus Thompson!
nets vs knicks
well if the knicks don’t get LeBron we will be the better team next year….lets just hope that he goes anywhere but the knicks otherwise we’re in trouble…
by Homey We Don't Play Around on Jul 8, 2010 12:29 AM EDT reply actions
the criticism of the franchise will be justified 100x if...
….they offer any type of signifcant money, or front loaded deal, to Tyrus Thomas
You don’t lowball all star players and then spend your money that way
I’m sick of this garbage. Watching Terrence, Derrick, and Damion play today was the only positive thing that came from the Nets on this horrible day. We have to hope to god that these kids live up to and beyond their potential because this is about to get rough
Prokhy started out with a lot of flair, but right now, he looks terrible.
"No one stands on the top of the world. Not you, not me, not even gods. But the unbearable vacancy of the throne in the sky is over. From now on...I will be sitting on it."
This.
They might have to go into full rebuild mode by trading Harris. Playoff team this year? Pfft.
World Series attitude, champagne bottle life, nothing every changes so tonight is like tomorrow night.
Might as well, because Harris isn't going to get any younger
and looking at what will be available, and the uncertainty of the draft, well we’re looking at 4-5 years before we can even think about contending, or even being a 2nd rd team for that matter. Time to cut our losses.
"No one stands on the top of the world. Not you, not me, not even gods. But the unbearable vacancy of the throne in the sky is over. From now on...I will be sitting on it."
by MrDollarBills on Jul 8, 2010 12:35 AM EDT up reply actions
ABSOLUTELY AGREE
This team is not winning squat, they are light years away from competing, so we might as well go young across the board and continue to rebuild by trading Harris for another 1st RD Pick if we can get one.
Yup.
If we strike out in the best free agency class ever then pray to Mariano Rivera the the core we have pans out and the future top 5 picks we’ll surely get become great as well. All this cap space for nothing.
Trade Harris to increase odds of that happening because contending and winning a championship won’t happen soon. LeBron is key to everything.
World Series attitude, champagne bottle life, nothing every changes so tonight is like tomorrow night.
Okay, I have been pretty negative tonight.
So let me throw you guys a bone, and keep hope alive.
http://flightaware.com/live/airport/KTEB
Figure out why that provides hope.
by No Sleep Till Brooklyn on Jul 8, 2010 12:32 AM EDT reply actions
this means nothing bro
just passing through
unbelievable.
"No one stands on the top of the world. Not you, not me, not even gods. But the unbearable vacancy of the throne in the sky is over. From now on...I will be sitting on it."
by MrDollarBills on Jul 8, 2010 12:35 AM EDT up reply actions
Just a guess on his part based on the airports/time
The same technique has been used to reveal several secrets in the past though, like Edwards endorsing Obama.
Anyways, we already know LBJ is going to be in the tri-state tomorrow, so even if that were his flight I’m not sure it would mean anything
Seeing this video, how the hell does Lebron diss Jay-z
I almost finally believe this Knicks bs (mostly because Amare’s former teammate Jared Dudley tweeted it), but look at this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bEKOAlzFJ8c&feature=player_embedded
That’s his boy. And he joins his rival?
JAY-Z Talks a Good Game
Talks like Michael, but when it came time to deliver LeBron he was 100% FREDO
I thought rebuild mode was over when Kidd, RJ, and VC left...
July 1st in this b***h wuzzzzup
-Proky and Hova
Secretly...
Someone never turned it off.
World Series attitude, champagne bottle life, nothing every changes so tonight is like tomorrow night.
I am now getting worried about Dudley's tweet
He is going to look like such a jerk off if he breaks this news before it is announced.
July 1st in this b***h wuzzzzup
-Proky and Hova
Next 18 or so hours are going to be crazy.
Alan Hahn alanhahn
Multiple sources are telling Newsday that LeBron James has decided to join Dwyane Wade and Chris Bosh in Miami. The new Big Three is here.
by No Sleep Till Brooklyn on Jul 8, 2010 12:43 AM EDT reply actions
No way
that Lebron can share the spotlight like that. Miami is already Wade’s town. Lebron’s ego would not allow this.
He is probably feeding more disinfo to get the ratings extra high for his “ESPN Special”.
by dunbladekilla on Jul 8, 2010 12:47 AM EDT up reply actions
Big up to Gina...
and the other people here who are thinking logically.
The Nets did the best they could to go after the top dogs without even considering overpaying 2nd tier players. The new CBA is going to be a gamechanger. The max contracts and cap are going to be significantly smaller. That means if you overpay someone this year under the current CBA, you could end up EXTRA screwed. It seems like a lot of teams and fans don’t get this. Giving Amare a max contract, uninsured to top it off, is sheer LUNACY! David Lee is probably not worth 10 million, let alone 13 or 14. Boozer is not worth what he got from Chicago. Stop panicking like these other teams GM’s seem to be doing!
I haven’t wanted Lebron from the start. The guy takes ego to another level. He lacks the killer instinct of a Kobe or Jordan. He has shown that he wants to call the shots at whatever franchise he ends with. I say, screw him.
Let’s go HARD after Carmelo if we have a chance. The guy is a stone-cold killer on the court, seems much more low-maintenance, is from Brooklyn, and is really not a downgrade from Lebron in terms of talent.
Otherwise, stay the course. Things will present themselves over the coming season. Heck, after last season, I would be ecstatic to see a 30 win team with lots of development for the young players and competent, steady leadership from the coaching staff. It’s better then reliving the last few years of the “Big 3”, where we were stuck in NBA limbo with a bunch of unmovable contracts.
Cheer up guys
That post isn't filled with logic either.
So to sign 2nd tier free agents now means it’s overpaid? Amare is but that’s the Knicks, they don’t count and when you actually use facts and statistics over the fallacies that your fail human brain (just like the rest of us because our brains suck due to memory bias) then you’ll see that David Lee’s per minute production rivals that of a regular All Star.
Who else is overpaid? Yeah…right. Go ahead.
And HAHAHAHAHAHAHA you son’t want the second best player in basketball over intangibles. Thank the heavens you aren’t running the team. And you want CARMELO? He’s not even close on the level of LeBron.
World Series attitude, champagne bottle life, nothing every changes so tonight is like tomorrow night.
And unlike what you say I have numbers and stats to back it up.
World Series attitude, champagne bottle life, nothing every changes so tonight is like tomorrow night.
Using numbers
to judge how good a player someone is when they play in D’Antoni’s system has gotten a lot of people in to trouble in the past.
As for Melo, I think you are seriously underestimating him. I live in the Denver are and get to see him often. The guy is a beast who cares way more about winning the Lebron.
by dunbladekilla on Jul 8, 2010 12:51 AM EDT up reply actions
I was speaking as a fan
when I said I didn’t want Lebron. If I was running a team I would obviously want him. He is one of the few players who is going to be worth a max contract under the current CBA a few years from now.
by dunbladekilla on Jul 8, 2010 12:59 AM EDT up reply actions
Melo is low-maintenance and has a killer instinct?
He’s been tied to weed, DUI, and an on court brawl. Oh and he’s been out of the first round once. Other than that tho…
No one said sign Amare or give anywhere near a max contract. But when you let Boozer and probably Lee go, both for less than the max, what statement does that send to LeBron?
On the positive side there’s a lot more cash for billboards.
You make it seem like Melo is a bad character guy.
He isn’t. Most of the league probably smokes weed. A DUI is a definite no-no, but no one is perfect. The brawl, like most sports “brawls” was brown out of proportion. It actually shows a bit of the fire I was talking about. The guy is not Ron Artest were you have to worry if he is gonna lose his mind at any given moment.
As for Boozer and Lee I still say they aren’t worth the big bucks. There is a reason all the stars are locking in long term contracts now. It’s because contracts are about to get a lot smaller. Guys like David Lee won’t dream of making 5 years/14 million per.
Ther Nets have never done big things in free agency. There are other ways to get to the promised land. We have cap space, young pieces, draft picks, and an uber-rich owner who wants a championship “in 5 years maximum”. Be patient.
by dunbladekilla on Jul 8, 2010 1:08 AM EDT up reply actions
Next season
Devin Harris / Raymond Felton
Courtney Lee
Terrence Williams / Damion James
Derrick Favors / Kris Humphries
Brook Lopez
woohooo 2011 contender
I feel bad for Avery
Thought he was joining Rod Thorn and a great situation with all of thw cap space, now he looks around and Thorn is out the door and we got shutout from every FA worth having too!
He must be thinking WOW, what did I get myself into? :- (
You do have to wonder...
if Prokhorov left the impression of Avery that the Nets would be a major player from the beginning. Avery has quite the ego and probably thought he would be a big attraction to free agents as well. Honestly, he is more likely to be scaring away free agents then anything else. he is not exactly the type of players coach you want if you want to lure in today’s breed of ultra-pampered stars. Lebron likely doesn’t want a coach that would dare call him on any of his BS.
by dunbladekilla on Jul 8, 2010 12:56 AM EDT up reply actions
Next Year's Starting Roster Will Be:
Devin Harris/Flip Murray/Ben Uzoh
Courtney Lee/Kyle Korver/Aleksandar Pavlovic
Damion James/Travis Outlaw/Quinton Ross
Derrick Favors/Tyrus Thomas/Kris Humphries
Brook Lopez/Josh Boone/Kyrylo Fesenko
Projected Record: 23-59.
WAY TOO GENEROUS, Giacomo
If this team wins 23 Games I’ll kiss your behind in Macy’s window
Be careful Dobermite
A Giacamo/Dobermite Macys appearance does not bold well for u, my friend.
If this sad-sack team wins 23 Games
I’ll kiss James Dolan’s behind in Macy’s window too
But I don’t have to worry about that cause its NOT HAPPENING
For some reason, I think Dolan would like that
Dobermite, this is becoming a very disappointing offseason, but lets remember some key issues we have had to deal with
1- We are playing in Newark- that just does not compare to NY.Chi.Mia- if we were playing in Brooklyn, I think we would be considered heavier players
2- We won 12 games last year- hard to take us serious after that
3- No fan support- Why would a Superstar come here after seeing the fan support over the last few years inthe Meadowlands?
4- GM gone. Who is the GM? Whos in charge?
This rebuilding may take longer than expected. Proky thought he could come in here and change things immediately- it takes time. Now lets not make any more mistakes (signing David Lee to the riduculous contract hes about to get would have been one) by Signing Tyrus Thomas or Kyle Korver or any other c type fA.
you forgot T-Will
and only 23 wins? you guys are crazy.
by Keith Van Bread on Jul 8, 2010 2:38 AM EDT up reply actions
Be honest people:
Chris Paul needs to happen or we have NO SHOT.
July 1st in this b***h wuzzzzup
-Proky and Hova
In the immortal words of Michael Ray Richardson
“THIS SHIP BE SINKING”
by Dobermite on Jul 8, 2010 12:53 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
I forgot about Avery...
God, I feel sorry for that guy.
July 1st in this b***h wuzzzzup
-Proky and Hova
it may work out...
in 3 years.
July 1st in this b***h wuzzzzup
-Proky and Hova
by NetsMets4Life on Jul 8, 2010 12:58 AM EDT up reply actions
If it does...
if we end up with anything worthy of all your enthusiasm, let me be the first to take you to dinner – or to buy dinner for you and your girlfriend.
We should have never sold Dr. J
All down hill from there!
by Net At All on Jul 8, 2010 12:59 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
I just hope you're right and I have reason to be generous.
My father always finds the silver lining in things. He’s out of the country. I told him that it wasn’t looking good for the Nets at the moment. Moreover, Nets fans are ready to take cyanide capsules after rumors spread that LeBron might be going to the Knicks.
He said, “but remember how much fun it was last season when the Nets actually won a game?” He was serious.
Even if it doesn’t work out, it sounds like you owe Annie a nice dinner for being so patient.
Well at least it won't be as bad as last year.
Coaching, a real bench + ole players and the addition of our rookies I see a 30 win team. Keeping in mind we were porject at around 20 last year and could have got there with a coach and less injuries / atmosphere. I feel 30 wins is possible. We still have Brook Lopez too.
I'm starting to believe the Knicks hype
Who the hell knows.
by Anthony Perez on Jul 8, 2010 1:08 AM EDT up reply actions
I hope so
because they should have a good 5 year run, which is how long it will take the Nets to be good enough to even sniff the east finals
"No one stands on the top of the world. Not you, not me, not even gods. But the unbearable vacancy of the throne in the sky is over. From now on...I will be sitting on it."
by MrDollarBills on Jul 8, 2010 2:03 AM EDT up reply actions
Boy, if Miami does that
Pat the rat sticks it to NY again….and my guess he will be back on the sideline.
Blueprint for Greatness?
We can’t even get David Lee. How sad is this?
by nazem275 on Jul 8, 2010 1:28 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
It was Thorn's fault for not reading Boozer's intentions ahead of time.
If Nets really like Favors, they should have wanted Lee over Boozer to begin with. Boozer couldn’t be trusted.
Thorn should have been negotiating with DLee and Boozer seriously days ago and gotten a better price for DLee.
If LeBron didn’t go to Chicago, then apparently LeBron never cared to play with Boozer anyway.
If we were ready to sign DLee, and LeBron was considering Nets, but didn’t like DLee, then his people would have let the Nets know about it.
Tonight on NBATV, David Aldridge said DLee wants to go to Knicks with of course Warriors having a chance.
Frank Isola agrees about Lee to Nets and that it may be good for Lee to leave the team after 3 coaches and all losing seasons.
They said that DLee’s girlfriend wasn’t only a Model, but an aspiring actress
I didn’t know that. New York and Broadway is much better than SanFran. in that case.
The woman is a big factor.
They said Nets have to make a move tonight or by tomorrow afternoon at latest.
No choice but to get Lee. Aldridge didn’t say anything about not overpaying for Lee.
If he is right, then Thorn is bluffing and will pay the 76 million tag mentioned by his agent.
Look at it this way:
Nets would be overpaying by about 10 million over the FA market price of last week.
However, the Salary Cap came in 2 million higher than expected. Nets would be paying an extra 2 million in first year and thus have just as much salary cap space left than they would have had with if the cap had been 56 million and Lee signed for 10 million less total.
chadfordinsider
RT @mhaubs Sources tell me Bron currently dining w/Amare in NY, playing softball in Akron, mtg w/Riles in Mia & visiting LLohan in LA jail
by No Sleep Till Brooklyn on Jul 8, 2010 1:38 AM EDT reply actions
75M for David Lee?
Thats nuts. Lets not lose perspective. David Lee only works if we are bringing in a superstar alongside him- hes not going to help us bring a Championship here by himself- I would rather us keep the $ and use it later in a S&T for a star who may be available (Think Carmelo or Chris Paul) later on. I know things look bleak but lets not exaggerate it by giving 75M to a role player
After signing Lee the Nets would still have 19 million in cap room
What are you saving it for?
by No Sleep Till Brooklyn on Jul 8, 2010 1:45 AM EDT up reply actions
Hes a role player
We should not be spending 15M a year on a role player- and with the new CBA its very possible his contract will be an albatross around our neck going forward, especially if Favors matures as they expect.
Does he help us win a championship? NO
Is he a go to player- NO
Perennial All Star- NO
It reaks of desperation. yes, we need someone to plug the hole until Favors is ready, but 75M for Lee….sorry I would rather wait until someone better is available, either thru FA or thru S&T- and with lots of NBA franchises having money problems- there will be players available.
How many role players average 20/10 over an entire season?
by No Sleep Till Brooklyn on Jul 8, 2010 1:51 AM EDT up reply actions
Stats are overrated
And we all know that. Playing in Dantonis systems has done nothing but help this guy. There are a bunch of guys who have played in Dantonis systems and have churned out career numbers scoring wise (Q Richardson, Al Harrington, Leandro Barbosa, the list goes on). Hes an excellent rebounder, I give you that- he wont score anywhere near 20 if he played with us. Did you watch knicks games ly- he wasnt even their #1 option. And he plays ZERO defense- he tries he just physically cant compete against the more athletic, physical bigs in this league.
Stats tell you wtf happened.
Everyone’s memory is subject to memory bias. Your eyes are subject to memory bias. So no it’s not overrated. That’s why top executive uses these things.
World Series attitude, champagne bottle life, nothing every changes so tonight is like tomorrow night.
yeah, lets instead frontload a deal to TYRUS THOMAS
Let that sink in for second.
"No one stands on the top of the world. Not you, not me, not even gods. But the unbearable vacancy of the throne in the sky is over. From now on...I will be sitting on it."
by MrDollarBills on Jul 8, 2010 2:03 AM EDT up reply actions
That is about right. Nets could carry about 14 million cap space into next year. Hump could be traded or come off next year.
Make the playoffs with DLee and be sure to get better the next year, with all that cap space and young players.
I have given up on LeBron, but as long as Nets get DLee and LeBron doesn’t come to Knicks, that would be fine.
DJames is the real James. TWill is the mini LeBron.
Either pay it or miss the playoffs and embarrass Proky.
Nets are good for it. They would have lots of cap space to save for next year after paying for a top starting PF.
No way to get a David Lee in a trade.
Playoffs....u talking about playoffs?
He couldnt even get the Knicks to the playoffs since hes been there….Come on now guys.
rest of the nets roster > rest of the knicks roster
by Keith Van Bread on Jul 8, 2010 2:08 AM EDT up reply actions
I'm with you.
Most of the posters here though seem to be in total panic mode. 75M for David Lee is nuts. His contract will becomea an un-moveable, cap-killer within a year or two. Let some other team panic and pay him. Free agency is not the only way to build a team.
by dunbladekilla on Jul 8, 2010 2:07 AM EDT up reply actions
Tell me if this at least makes sense
Haha, see? All this talk of Bron to Miami is nowhere near done. You know what it tells me? He has no clue. Why? I think he really wants us. He’s wanted us the whole time. I just think he’s waiting for us to get someone(now, Lee). If we had any of the big FA PF, he’d already have made his choice. He doesn’t want to make it obvious, so that’s why he’s doing all the other stuff. He did land at an NJ airport. We are keeping with style. Not seeming desperate for his attention. Finally, all of a sudden Lee wants to come here? I know he’s stated the whole time he’d be more than happy to be here, but, after all that’s happened, why now? On the eve of Bron’s decision? Seems obvious. Maybe Prokhorov and Jay knew what they were doing all along…………….
at this point
you’re on your own with this one. He’s not coming to this team.
"No one stands on the top of the world. Not you, not me, not even gods. But the unbearable vacancy of the throne in the sky is over. From now on...I will be sitting on it."
by MrDollarBills on Jul 8, 2010 2:05 AM EDT up reply actions
Thank you. I may be the last hope for everyone here, but I will not, and must not give up. I am a believer in a higher power. This franchise deserves something like this. It is owed to them .All of you long suffering fans deserve Bron, and that is what you’ll get. I will proudly carry the flag(even if it’s on my own) for the believers, and if I am right, I will be proud. If I am wrong, well………….no one’s perfect.
i like your optism..
and no its not sarcasm :D
Keep it up! if Lebron has the gut to sign here considering all the negative things the media has put aboard, you will be the first to get credit for not wavering..
Everyone on NBATV is saying that LeBron is doing a really stupid thing for playing the game with the ESPN program.
He will be making lots of enemies and will rip the hearts out of Cleveland fans if he leaves and the whole NY scene if he doesn’t go to Knicks.
It is a lose-lose situation for LeBron. Really stupid. If LeBron heard the program on NBATV he might call off the whole thing.
Lebron is not coming here
Hes not signing with the Nets who between all of the team have 1 combined all star appearance over the Heat (Wade/Bosh), Cavaliers (emotional decision) and even Knicks (Amare is still a big draw). There are also NO other Big FA’s out there to team up with Lebron- hes not coming here and Nets management knows it.
Think about our frontcourt for a second,
With Pez and Lee on the frontline we will probally have the best frontcourt in the east besides orlando. 2 LEGIT 20-10 guys who are only gonna get better. Thats 19 million to spend on a backcourt.
by Alexander Fishkin on Jul 8, 2010 1:50 AM EDT reply actions
Unfortunately, Rod Thorn is sitting on his...
…you get the picture.
DO SOMETHING.
by No Sleep Till Brooklyn on Jul 8, 2010 1:51 AM EDT up reply actions
OMG
Im having flashbacks of when Rod wouldn’t get a decent PF when we had that gaping hole at PF in the Kidd, Vince, Rj, , Krstic Era.
by Alexander Fishkin on Jul 8, 2010 1:54 AM EDT up reply actions
Broussard reporting all indications of LBJ to Heat.
World Series attitude, champagne bottle life, nothing every changes so tonight is like tomorrow night.
Ehh 70-30 wrong to right ratio.
World Series attitude, champagne bottle life, nothing every changes so tonight is like tomorrow night.
I wish I had Proky and Jay Z’s email.
by No Sleep Till Brooklyn on Jul 8, 2010 1:53 AM EDT up reply actions
I got Bron’s number. I’m not joking. I got this site, and I looked up C.C. Sabathia. I called the number, and it was him.
Thanks for the link. It really works. I found all of my phones numbers there.
I will use that link for business.
Not a wasted night afterall.
And Yankess beat Oakland again.
Good night.
Proky doesn't use computers. He is probably waking up about now.
When he finds out that Thorn didn’t sign Lee and pricetag just went up, he is not going to be too happy.
Proky shouldn’t let Thorn, who is a “freebee” President at this time, without a contract, make final decisions without input from himself and Avery.
If Proky were to see that image, he would call Thorn in the middle of the night and ask for DLee's signed contract on his desk in Moscow by end of tomorrow.
Thorn is really embarrassing Proky.
seriously
Thorn needs to go home already.
"No one stands on the top of the world. Not you, not me, not even gods. But the unbearable vacancy of the throne in the sky is over. From now on...I will be sitting on it."
by MrDollarBills on Jul 8, 2010 2:06 AM EDT up reply actions
Broussard's twitter
Sources with knowledge of the situation indeed saying LeBron will join Wade and Bosh in Miami, barring a late change of heart
a homer to whom?
youve said hes a knick homer and now a miami homer?
face it LEBRON IS NOT COMING TO THE NETS
dont be mad that your 1,000+ comments in the past week have been for naught
Lupo...
get over it man… This is going overboard, the guy is not coming and ESPN doesn’t tell guys to say or report anything, that is absurd man… WE’RE NOT GETTING HIM, repeat after me…LeBron James is NOT coming to the NETS…. Go Ahead, sooner you say it the better you’ll be tomorrow night…
Yeah right
If that was true, screw the nba because I woildn’t watch it
I don't believe it
Not because I don’t think Lebron wants to play with them, but because it’s not feasible. ESPN broke down the cap.
They only have about $13 mil for Lebron right now.
The only way to give Lebron a max is by moving Beasley’s contract.
If they move that and sign Lebron, they’re left with only a 4-man roster and 1.8 mil to play with. That means that all they can do is sign their 3 draft picks to rookie minimums and sign veterans on the decline to minimums across the board.
by Anthony Perez on Jul 8, 2010 2:07 AM EDT up reply actions
honestly
with those 3 guys, i think a bunch of veterans on the side will be enough to secure some championships.
by Keith Van Bread on Jul 8, 2010 2:33 AM EDT up reply actions
Yes, 80% of country will hate LeBron if he goes to Miami.
I’ll be happy though as long as DLee is signed by tomorrow and DJames is as good as he appears.
O dog, i’ll say what i’ve said all along. He’s not winning a title this year, or next., no matter where he signs. He wants to grow WITH his new team, and by the time the Nets grow, they’ll be in his favorite borough, Brooklyn. In the meanwhile, he’ll be able to help recruit big FA, have input on trades and possibly the GM situation, and he has what he wants: His own franchise. His franchise, his way, all the way. He can basically run it without being a front office guy, He wants the spotlight all to his own. I really think he knows we’re his best chance for the next 5-10 years, rather than the quick fix. Keep the faith.
Tyrus Thomas, Travis Outlaw and Kyle Korver...
UGH! I am not a happy camper, as a NETS FAN!
But my HEAT season tickets are looking mighty good right now!
Paul from Delray Beach
have fun Paul
I don’t blame you. This franchise is a joke.
"No one stands on the top of the world. Not you, not me, not even gods. But the unbearable vacancy of the throne in the sky is over. From now on...I will be sitting on it."
by MrDollarBills on Jul 8, 2010 2:07 AM EDT up reply actions
a complete and utter disgrace
and embarrassment
by michaelbot1 on Jul 8, 2010 2:08 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
they need to take that mural down
ASAP
Hand me a paper bag with two holes in it for my eyes to see through please
I’m sure those folks in Brooklyn are foaming at the mouth just thinking about the day when they can buy season tickets. Yep. Bet all they’re thinking about in Brooklyn is the Nets…
"No one stands on the top of the world. Not you, not me, not even gods. But the unbearable vacancy of the throne in the sky is over. From now on...I will be sitting on it."
by MrDollarBills on Jul 8, 2010 2:11 AM EDT up reply actions
I cannot believe I am saying this, considering how I feel about ESPN right now, but if you think this is true, answer this: Why would ESPN basically kill their own show? They made such a production out of this whole situation, and now, they’re gonna let something like this, with one of THEIR OWN reporters basically kill the ratings? Even they wouldn’t do that.
PLEASE GOD LET US GET DAVID LEE FOR 75 MIL OVER 5 WITH A TEAM OPTION FOR THE 5th YEAR!!!
by Alexander Fishkin on Jul 8, 2010 2:06 AM EDT reply actions
Please calm down.
Try to take emotion out of this. David Lee isn’t worth 65/million over 5, let alone 75. That contract is gonna be an un-tradeable turd within a year or two. David Lee’s numbers come from playing under D’Antoni. David Lee is a glorified garbage man. Do not be fooled like many others in the past.
by dunbladekilla on Jul 8, 2010 2:11 AM EDT up reply actions
what if we trade for Paul and sign Lee in the same day tommorow.
Paul>Aroyo
Lee/Twill<Wade
Bron= Bron
LeeHaslem
by Alexander Fishkin on Jul 8, 2010 2:10 AM EDT up reply actions
sorry
Paul>Aroyo
Lee/Twill<Wade
Bron= Bron
LeeHaslem
by Alexander Fishkin on Jul 8, 2010 2:11 AM EDT up reply actions
Broussard's off, I don't believe it
Not because I don’t think Lebron wants to play with them, but because it’s not feasible. ESPN broke down the cap.
They only have about $13 mil for Lebron right now.
The only way to give Lebron a max is by moving Beasley’s contract.
If they move that and sign Lebron, they’re left with only a 4-man roster and 1.8 mil to play with. That means that all they can do is sign their 3 draft picks to rookie minimums and sign veterans on the decline to minimums across the board.
Plus, what is his source? What is the source saying exactly? That Lebron wants to play with those 2? No duh. No matter how much he leans Heat, it can’t happen. Hell, Wade was “leaning” toward Chicago yesterday according to all sources
we better pray that he is RIGHT
It better serves us if the Knicks do NOT GET Lebron. Pray that he goes to Miami or Chicago. That’s the only chance we’ll have to generate any heat in the tri state area, by being a young, up and coming team. We won’t sell ANY TICKETS for the next 5-6 years if Lebron goes to to the Knicks.
"No one stands on the top of the world. Not you, not me, not even gods. But the unbearable vacancy of the throne in the sky is over. From now on...I will be sitting on it."
by MrDollarBills on Jul 8, 2010 2:13 AM EDT up reply actions
The salary cap was unexpectedly $2 million higher.
Also, MIA doesnt have any state income tax which makes up for the difference than he would’ve signed elsewhere.
Ari
They accounted for the new cap in the breakdown.
by Anthony Perez on Jul 8, 2010 2:15 AM EDT up reply actions
Mrs. Beasley's Son?
How about we take Michael Beasley off the Heat’s books. At 5mil and an expiring contract, what have we got to lose?
Paul from Delray Beach
They can put his face on the mural
"No one stands on the top of the world. Not you, not me, not even gods. But the unbearable vacancy of the throne in the sky is over. From now on...I will be sitting on it."
by MrDollarBills on Jul 8, 2010 2:14 AM EDT up reply actions
The Blueprint for success
….trading for Michael Beasley.
"No one stands on the top of the world. Not you, not me, not even gods. But the unbearable vacancy of the throne in the sky is over. From now on...I will be sitting on it."
by MrDollarBills on Jul 8, 2010 2:14 AM EDT up reply actions
Broussard was just on the phone live and said Nets are out
He said Nets are completely out of it.
Says Chicago has sliver of hope
But it’s
1. Cavs
2. Heat
Distant 3. Knicks
by Anthony Perez on Jul 8, 2010 2:15 AM EDT up reply actions
Broussard's a shill
What do you expect him to say? Having the Nets in it doesn’t help ESPN’s ratings.
+1
He’s a moron. Not that we’re getting Lebron but if the kincks were there us too
Thank you, shea. Finally, someone agrees with me about Broussard. he’s a tool, and I take nothing he says seriously.
and apparently...
….we can add Mikhail Prokhorov to that list as well.
"No one stands on the top of the world. Not you, not me, not even gods. But the unbearable vacancy of the throne in the sky is over. From now on...I will be sitting on it."
by MrDollarBills on Jul 8, 2010 2:21 AM EDT up reply actions
I'm stunned, I thought we had a puncher's chance...
….oh that’s right. It’s hard to throw punches when you’re sitting on your hands for two weeks
"No one stands on the top of the world. Not you, not me, not even gods. But the unbearable vacancy of the throne in the sky is over. From now on...I will be sitting on it."
by MrDollarBills on Jul 8, 2010 2:15 AM EDT up reply actions
I still can't get over the math
in regards to the Heat. I just don’t see how you build a team with 3 ball hungry superstars surrounded by minimum players.
by Anthony Perez on Jul 8, 2010 2:17 AM EDT up reply actions
let them try
let them have a blast. Three huge ego maniacs in Miami. They should film it for reality TV, when their friendship dissolves over the course of years.
its not like we’re competing anyway, so i’m all for the “superteam” now.
"No one stands on the top of the world. Not you, not me, not even gods. But the unbearable vacancy of the throne in the sky is over. From now on...I will be sitting on it."
by MrDollarBills on Jul 8, 2010 2:19 AM EDT up reply actions
With 2 players with PER over 28-30 and one ayer with a PER of 25
If the rest of the players can be at least league average they’ll be good to go.
World Series attitude, champagne bottle life, nothing every changes so tonight is like tomorrow night.
What are those numbers?
Max contracts are 16.something. Are those ages?
by Anthony Perez on Jul 8, 2010 2:20 AM EDT up reply actions
PER is a stat.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Player_Efficiency_Rating
World Series attitude, champagne bottle life, nothing every changes so tonight is like tomorrow night.
That's a bad assumption
They won’t have a true big man. Who the hell is going to clog up the middle, especially against the Lakers, Celtics, Magic, etc. Bosh isn’t a big body.
Plus, what the hell happens when the starters need to sit down. You trot out 3 rookies and 2 hacks onto the court and hope the other team doesn’t catch up on your lead or extend their lead?
by Anthony Perez on Jul 8, 2010 2:23 AM EDT up reply actions
Ask the Celtics.
Despite being a Big “4” their production isn’t that much better than a trio of LBJ, Wade and Bosh. The rest of their players were league average to worse.
World Series attitude, champagne bottle life, nothing every changes so tonight is like tomorrow night.
I don't think the C's had 3 maxes
I’m not sure though because these numbers don’t make sense
http://www.altiusdirectory.com/Sports/nba-boston-celtics-roster.html
Those look almost max, but they have other big contracts on there Rasheed (6 mil), Perkins (5 mil), Davis (3 mil)
by Anthony Perez on Jul 8, 2010 2:31 AM EDT up reply actions
that's their problem
"No one stands on the top of the world. Not you, not me, not even gods. But the unbearable vacancy of the throne in the sky is over. From now on...I will be sitting on it."
by MrDollarBills on Jul 8, 2010 2:25 AM EDT up reply actions
So what the hell is this masterplan...
that makes us playoff contenders this year? I mean yes I know it’s very very very hard to make a 12 win team instant contenders but don’t say that stuff when it’s a longshot to happen. Seesh.
World Series attitude, champagne bottle life, nothing every changes so tonight is like tomorrow night.
What's funny about Broussard
Is that at some point in this whole process he has given front runner status to EVERY team at some point. At SOME point, he’s given every team but the Nets and Clippers the best chance to get Lebron.
At the end of it all, no matter where Lebron goes, ESPN can replay whichever one of those clips matches the outcome and celebrate their “great” reporter Chris Broussard.
by Anthony Perez on Jul 8, 2010 2:18 AM EDT up reply actions
Funny Broussard would say that, because the only time he ever spoke nicely about us was last Saturday. ‘’Nets most impressive going into Saturday’‘. Even over MIAMI. Now that changes? Come on, the guy’s a joke.
Miami has Chris Bosh and Dwyane Wade
Of course it changes.
"No one stands on the top of the world. Not you, not me, not even gods. But the unbearable vacancy of the throne in the sky is over. From now on...I will be sitting on it."
by MrDollarBills on Jul 8, 2010 2:22 AM EDT up reply actions
The future can still be bright.
Free agency is hardly the only way to build a franchise. Especially when you have tons of cap space, young pieces, draft picks, and an uber-rich owner willing to spend in a down economy.
Lebron probably doesn't give a squat about David Lee
"No one stands on the top of the world. Not you, not me, not even gods. But the unbearable vacancy of the throne in the sky is over. From now on...I will be sitting on it."
by MrDollarBills on Jul 8, 2010 2:20 AM EDT up reply actions
This^^
Is what I wanted from the beginning of FA. It’s funny those 2 guys are still out there. Well not funny actually, because there’s a better chance of a comet landing on MSG then us signing them.
by Special_Delivery on Jul 8, 2010 2:35 AM EDT up reply actions
I really appreciate your optimism.
It’s a nice change of pace from all of the crap we Nets fans have been dealing with lately. Hell I’m still praying for it to come true, I just don’t feel it will anymore. Plz don’t be too upset if LBJ doesn’t sign with us though. We still have a great young core of players and Damion James is going to be one hell of a player.
by Special_Delivery on Jul 8, 2010 2:42 AM EDT up reply actions
ESPN is saying Lebron to Miami
it will be great when they don’t win
yeah at least we'll have company
I am Bob Bummer. I’m bummed.
"No one stands on the top of the world. Not you, not me, not even gods. But the unbearable vacancy of the throne in the sky is over. From now on...I will be sitting on it."
by MrDollarBills on Jul 8, 2010 2:22 AM EDT up reply actions
Oh, ye of little faith. I may stand alone
But I stand proudly.
Lupo
give it up. Newsday broke the story, Broussard is saying its pretty much a done deal. Hell, Steven A called it like 2 weeks ago. LeBron to Miami, mean’s the Knicks still suck, im ok with that
Jimmy, answer this then: Why would ESPN ruin their own made-for-TV show? No drama or intrigue means less viewers. You think NY fans are gonna watch? Come on, be sensible.
yeah they'll watch
they have more riding on Lebron signing to them than we do.
This is going to be painful, but nothing is gained without giving something up
"No one stands on the top of the world. Not you, not me, not even gods. But the unbearable vacancy of the throne in the sky is over. From now on...I will be sitting on it."
by MrDollarBills on Jul 8, 2010 2:29 AM EDT up reply actions
exactly
If the Miami story is true, then the Knicks are still a joke.
All’s well that ends well
"No one stands on the top of the world. Not you, not me, not even gods. But the unbearable vacancy of the throne in the sky is over. From now on...I will be sitting on it."
by MrDollarBills on Jul 8, 2010 2:26 AM EDT up reply actions
I'm holding out hope still
Only to throw up my middle fingers and say “Eff the haters” lol
the guy bagging groceries at the local A&P, sources close to the situation have told me.
"No one stands on the top of the world. Not you, not me, not even gods. But the unbearable vacancy of the throne in the sky is over. From now on...I will be sitting on it."
by MrDollarBills on Jul 8, 2010 2:27 AM EDT up reply actions
At this rate...
Barnes, Felton , Shaq, and whoever else has any talent left in the free agency market. They will all sign for league minimum deals.
by dunbladekilla on Jul 8, 2010 2:29 AM EDT up reply actions
Shaq will probably try to beg his way onto that team
"No one stands on the top of the world. Not you, not me, not even gods. But the unbearable vacancy of the throne in the sky is over. From now on...I will be sitting on it."
by MrDollarBills on Jul 8, 2010 2:30 AM EDT up reply actions
I suspected that when Bosh and Wade signed.
I guarantee it if Lebron signs.
by dunbladekilla on Jul 8, 2010 2:31 AM EDT up reply actions
Can someone please explain to me who the hell else would be on that Miami team?
Ship off Beasley, have 1.8 mil left, sign 3 rookies to minimums, fill out the rest with minimums?
Plus, what the hell happens when the starters need to sit down. You trot out 3 rookies and 2 hacks onto the court and hope the other team doesn’t catch up on your lead or extend their lead?
seemed to work for Boston
and next year, they will have the MLE to play with. And you never know who will take the minimum to play for that team.
"No one stands on the top of the world. Not you, not me, not even gods. But the unbearable vacancy of the throne in the sky is over. From now on...I will be sitting on it."
by MrDollarBills on Jul 8, 2010 2:28 AM EDT up reply actions
No it's possible.
But I don’t really think he’ll go there so it doesn’t matter.
World Series attitude, champagne bottle life, nothing every changes so tonight is like tomorrow night.
defintely shaq
i have a hard time picturing him anywhere but boston or miami. he wants to catch kobe ring-wise
See y'all in the lottery
Harrison Barnes or Bust
GUYS IT'S DONE!!
Why do you think this info is leaking now? LeBron sees how bad this is making him look, and if this info leaks now, he will have a reason to bail tomorrow night… This was a bad idea from the beginning, he’s taking a lot of heat (no pun intended) and needs this to get out to make his life easier…. LET’S MOVE ON, WE’RE OUT OF IT!!!!!
Jesus, those 3 guys were all top 10 in PPG last season
That’s ridiculous.
Will people please stop mentioning Tmac
no desire for tmac
by Anthony Perez on Jul 8, 2010 2:37 AM EDT up reply actions
I doubt after opening his 1st website, debuting on Twitter, etc., he’s bailing. Maybe Wikipedia isn’t the most reliable, but I had Boozer’s name up there, and the moment I heard he signed with the Bulls, they had it. I keep refreshing Bron’s page. Still says he’s a FA. Buy into the nonsense of you want. I don’t,.
HAHA!!
lupojohn3, really???, its over!!! Broussard is the most tapped into LBJ’s camp, he didn’t pull this story out of thing air, its over, he goes over everything in detail, NJ is NO LONGER in his TOP 3 and there is a chance IF he were to change his mind it would be the KNICKS or he stays home with the CAVS… IT’S OVER!!!
you delusionals
are cracking me up, move on. Hope for a David Lee signing by midday
Nets fans....
….are we all masochists?
"No one stands on the top of the world. Not you, not me, not even gods. But the unbearable vacancy of the throne in the sky is over. From now on...I will be sitting on it."
I'm realistic
something you are not. I am a Nets fan. Been one for a while. But there comes a time when you need to smell the coffee, and accept reality
iamdiddy
Breaking news!!! Lebron signs with the Knicks!! I just saw him leaving the knicks owners house!!! He lives next door to me!!! Let’s go NYC
What the fcuk.
I hate diddy. If that’s true, I’m going to punkslap the first bricks fan to talk smack to me in my new Nets draft hat.
by Special_Delivery on Jul 8, 2010 2:45 AM EDT up reply actions
The reason for Lupo's beliefs
is my above post, which I’m sadly questioning
http://www.netsdaily.com/2010/7/7/1557823/32-million-and-no-one-to-take-it#41509548
Well I'm starting to crack
who knows anymore. Oh that’s right, Lebron, and Diddy, etc
by Anthony Perez on Jul 8, 2010 2:46 AM EDT up reply actions
ANTHONY
I loved your reasons to why he would / should come here, but unfortunately, with all this info leaking, its leaking for a reason, tomorrow is going to be a media disaster no matter what he does, its better to let it out now so he can slide into it tomorrow… IT HURTS, I’M SO BUMMED, but its over, and if Lupojohn3 can’t come to terms with it, so be it, but it is over…
Thanks dude, but
It almost all seems like BS at this point. When we went to sleep on Tuesday night, common opinion was LBJ was staying in Cleveland and Wade was going to Chicago. When we woke up, Bosh and Wade were in Miami and Lebron was closest to NYK.
by Anthony Perez on Jul 8, 2010 3:22 AM EDT up reply actions
Nevermind...
You obviously are caught in lupojohn’s spell… If you can’t see how this is over, than, I hope you won’t be too depressed tomorrow night when its official…
My spell? Come on. I’m trying to give people hope. Honest, genuine hope, not a spell. I really think he’s coming here. Don’t let (A) Knick-SPN, eh….. ESPN, (B) the team’s past history fool you. Every dog has its day. Ever think the Rays would play in a WS? Bet you didn’t. If you just believe, and do the right thing, success comes. I am not only confident of this, but I am sure of it. If I am wrong(which I won’t be), I will most definitely come on here tommorrow night, and face all of you, because that’s how it goes. If I am right(which I know I will be), I will not brag, nor seek anything from anyone. I will just come on here as one of many Nets fans who are proud of the greatest day in franchise history. You have the right to feel whatever way you want. No doubt. However, to say I am putting someone under a spell is just flat wrong. I’ll be honest: I think every single person on this board thinks that, sunbconsciously(in the back of one’s mind) he’s coming here. You just don’t want to believe for all the reasons I stated, and that’s fine, but let the process play out, and let Anthony and whoever else believe what they want, not because of a spell, but because of hope. For the first time, genuine hope.
Hey lupo..
How do you feel now bro =\
by Special_Delivery on Jul 8, 2010 2:47 AM EDT up reply actions
Ochocinco’s tweet probably meant NYK. The song is about NY, doesn’t matter who rapped it. Villanueva said today it’s between NY/NJ/CLE. He said he knows where and listed NY first.
by Special_Delivery on Jul 8, 2010 2:53 AM EDT up reply actions
With how things were going
The past 36 hours or so, im just happy hes not gonna be a Knick…we need to just sign a couple of b-level free agents and i honestly think we can win 35 games. then again i thought we would do that last year..Once again, at least the “Mecca” of basketball is without a king, as usual
Because
Lebron allegedly just left James Dolans house at 3 Am…when hes in miami?
by Kevin Growney on Jul 8, 2010 2:49 AM EDT up reply actions
He was never in Miami
and Diddy could easily be trolling
Rod Thorn said that he was shocked when Boozer signed with the Bulls and didn’t even give the Nets a chance to match..
That doesn’t sound like an organization that had a master-plan of LeBron and Lee all along.
Still have faith though
The plan is instant playoffs
Guaranteed champions in 5 years. Obviously that plan is effed unless a miracle chance LBJ comes here..
Of course there’s the plan of hoping the prospects pan out but that is not the original plan.
World Series attitude, champagne bottle life, nothing every changes so tonight is like tomorrow night.
When I mean instant
I mean in 2011 the Nets are already a playoff team. That’s what Proky said.
World Series attitude, champagne bottle life, nothing every changes so tonight is like tomorrow night.
I put that all on Boozer. he had no reason to do what he did to the Nets. He probably knew they’d match. His loss.
BREAKING! This is BIG
Saw this RT a ton of times on Twitter, trying to track down the original tweet
BREAKING: A source close to the situation says no one knows what in the hell they’re talking about.
I'm in NY and have to be at work in 5 hours. My prospects for sleep look slim.
.
by Anthony Perez on Jul 8, 2010 2:52 AM EDT up reply actions
same here bro
It’s frickin 3am and i’m up for the heck of it. sheesh
"No one stands on the top of the world. Not you, not me, not even gods. But the unbearable vacancy of the throne in the sky is over. From now on...I will be sitting on it."
by MrDollarBills on Jul 8, 2010 2:58 AM EDT up reply actions
IDC
Wat Diddy said…Im gonna go with the newsday ESPN source…..I love how someone leaving another persons house means hes signed…“I left my friends house a couple hours ago, so clearly i just signed a max contract with him”
Well apparently hes in Akron,NYC and Miami right now….go figure
by Kevin Growney on Jul 8, 2010 2:57 AM EDT up reply actions
The Silver Lining
New York Knick fans are in total denial, others standing on a chair with a noose around their neck.
They are going to be taking this frustration out on Amare for years to come.
At this point
I’m happy as long as it’s not the Knicks
by Anthony Perez on Jul 8, 2010 2:58 AM EDT up reply actions
Diddy admits making it up
iamdiddy: Im only jokin!!! I always wanted to start a twitter rumor!!!! He’s goin to miami! My second hm! Lol
And this is why I hate that stupid motherfcuker.
by Special_Delivery on Jul 8, 2010 3:01 AM EDT up reply actions
We're troopers
Look at the time. Lebron is an ass for hijacking our lives.
Imagine what Cavs fan sites must be like right now…
by Anthony Perez on Jul 8, 2010 3:02 AM EDT up reply actions
I
Actually like Diddy now…He got Knicks fans confidence back, and shot it down..not sure why but its hilarious
by Kevin Growney on Jul 8, 2010 3:08 AM EDT up reply actions
Remember this?
“How fast can we build a championship team? If everything goes as planned, I expect us to be in the playoffs next season and [win a] championship in one year minimum, and maximum in five years,” said Prokhorov, approved May 11 as majority owner of the Nets.
http://sports.espn.go.com/new-york/nba/news/story?id=5199842
I guess nothing went according to plan huh? Damn lottery for screwing this up.
World Series attitude, champagne bottle life, nothing every changes so tonight is like tomorrow night.
Unless there's some houdini s***
that happens tomorrow. You never know…he is a brooding russian
by Anthony Perez on Jul 8, 2010 3:06 AM EDT up reply actions
He did predict Wade and Bosh to Miami
And said LBJ still has a shot to the Nets. He’s been right so far let’s hope that somehow we’re still according to plan.
World Series attitude, champagne bottle life, nothing every changes so tonight is like tomorrow night.
I hope so, but I wouldn't bet on it
They’re last card is to promise LBJ to fill the roster with another star through trades, if they can’t make it thru free agency.
And let him know they’re not afraid to pay the luxury tax.
I think it's time for Proky...
…to get a frickin laptop. It would help him keep in touch with the league a lot better. Ridiculous that he hasn’t gotten one yet.
by Special_Delivery on Jul 8, 2010 3:07 AM EDT up reply actions
Baby steps.
I don’t think he has a cell phone yet.
World Series attitude, champagne bottle life, nothing every changes so tonight is like tomorrow night.
F*ck the league
He needs a macbook so he can come to netsdaily as an “anonymous source” and give us the goddamn lowdown
by Anthony Perez on Jul 8, 2010 3:09 AM EDT up reply actions
Thorn has pulled some rabbits out of hats in his career
Plus he told the Star Ledger a couple of days ago that he was dedicating a chapter in his book to the Lebron deal.
Among all of his accomplishments (Jordan draft, Kidd trade, etc), why would he dedicate a whole chapter to his most fumbled, bumbled moment as a GM?
by Anthony Perez on Jul 8, 2010 3:11 AM EDT up reply actions
Yea that would definitely seal the deal as a final chapter. Start wit Jordan end with LBJ. But so far the chapter looks like garbage and a terrible ending. I’ll be praying extra long now before I hit the sack. Goodnight Nets fans. Keep ya heads up.
by Special_Delivery on Jul 8, 2010 3:14 AM EDT up reply actions
Thorn is/was good at TRADES
but not great on drafts and free agency.
So there’s still hope HOPE via trades.
The Cleveland Plain Dealer reporter
Said he was hearing crazy 3-team S&T’s coming through the pipeline on Tuesday night.
by Anthony Perez on Jul 8, 2010 3:17 AM EDT up reply actions
Could the Nets be involved in maybe getting a player that could Net(no pun intended) us Bron, and we had no idea he was available?
AHAHAHA
Knicks Board looks EXACTLY like this one did earlier today..A lot of conspiracy theories that look hilarious. but we were talking about them earlier
Imagine what Cavs sites look like
I feel bad for those fans
by Anthony Perez on Jul 8, 2010 3:18 AM EDT up reply actions
YEA
We think we got the short draw…they are actually worse than us
by Kevin Growney on Jul 8, 2010 3:18 AM EDT up reply actions
But it goes to show just how BS this whole process is
When we went to sleep on Tuesday night, common opinion was LBJ was staying in Cleveland and Wade was going to Chicago. When we woke up, Bosh and Wade were in Miami and Lebron was closest to NYK.
by Anthony Perez on Jul 8, 2010 3:20 AM EDT up reply actions
The chapter will read like this: ‘’Everyone doubted us. Mocked us. Laughed at us, but I knew. I knew all along that LeBron was coming here. We have great people in this organization, and they know how to seal a deal. Special props to my boy, Jay-Z for closing the job. Mikhail will be the best owner in basketball, and LeBron it’s best player. I ride off into the sunset knowing my final act is done. Welcome to the Nets, Lebron’’.
Why would the man who drafted Jordan and traded for Kidd dedicate a whole chapter in his book, and have it blow up in his face? These are one of many ’’little’’ facts that do not get mentioned.
faNETics, I don’t really ever brag or seek attention, but you have to admit: As far the belief factor, and what I say on here, and all that, i’m pretty good, aren’t I?
Books have high points and low points
do they not?
that's the THING
the “belief factor”.
It’s ok to speculate, or dream for that matter.
But to go over the top as if things are facts ….
I enjoy your enthusiasm though
I think it's a load of BS
This whole thing has been such a charade. Woj called it out beautifully
http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news?slug=aw-lebrondecision070710
I think BronBron, Wade, and Bosh’s handlers were all disseminating conflicting rumors to keep the media on their heels all the while they did what they were going to do all along – and what Proky called out on Saturday – Bosh/Wade to Miami, Lebron up for grabs between NYK, CLE, and NJ
Which falls in line with a lot of GM's who reported
anonymously that they all seemed like 25 year old kids screwing around through this whole process.
by Anthony Perez on Jul 8, 2010 3:30 AM EDT up reply actions
As my final thought
At least we got the depression over with. Now knicks, and cavs fans got their hearts broken on the eve of “the decision” that sucks….But is funny…..35 wins. Brook, harris. all stars… Twill averages 17 ppg……..Favors will be a bust. Annnnnd thats all….Were gonna have some new faces in here…just not the one we thought
Yes, and I think, Anthony that Thorn has something planned. He does not want to go out like this. Agree?
I definitely don't think Thorn wants his swan song to be "Getting no FA's"
But I don’t know what he has planned, if anything, at this point. Still crossing my fingers over my earlier theory.
by Anthony Perez on Jul 8, 2010 3:31 AM EDT up reply actions
They are getting ready for a press conference for the signing of LBJ...
In my dreams…
World Series attitude, champagne bottle life, nothing every changes so tonight is like tomorrow night.
THIS JUST IN....
MiamiThrice.com Registered On June 30th – Seems like these 3 guys played everyone all along… What a scam!!
Here is something else you can run with....
jadande
“Part of me thinks LeBron’s camp is just floating this Miami thing to gauge the reaction. And what I’ve seen has not been positive.”
But even so, we’re just not in it….
Finally(and shockingly) someone at ESPN talks sensibly. I have to think maybe Villanueva was right. Nets, Knicks and Cavs. Cavs are quiet cause they know he’s leaving. Knicks are…………….well, the Knicks. Maybe Bron and his people told the Nets to keep it quiet like this. I think Rod will engineer a shock move(FA, trade, whichever). You’ll see. I just can’t see it ending any other way.
lol, i JUST tweeted him my theory
Wonder if he picks up on it.
by Anthony Perez on Jul 8, 2010 3:44 AM EDT up reply actions
What I failed to put is that Bron and the Nets had a handshake, probably told him of their surprise. How else was Prokhorov so dead on? You think ESPN leaked it for the Nets’ gain? Hell no. They did it so they could say ‘’see, we told you he was right’’. I am beginning to think this was a setup…………………….by Prokhorov.
lupojohn3, please make it happened.... let LeBron come to the Nets...
i will Call you God or whatever, please make it happened.
Brandthony
I mostly use it for posting marketing articles and blog posts
by Anthony Perez on Jul 8, 2010 3:50 AM EDT up reply actions
Honest question.
Nets get LBJ but getting Russian spies to threaten his family. We sign David Lee too. Does that make the Nets 2011 Champions?
World Series attitude, champagne bottle life, nothing every changes so tonight is like tomorrow night.
Bron's location
41.075953,-81.504166
according to his twitter account.
That’s in Akron, Ohio.
http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&q=coordinates%2041.075953%20-81.504166&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=wl
faNETics
Lebron flew into Teterboro already…Proky will probably be buying him his own jet shortly along with many other perks for his entire crew.
Lebron would of prefered to stay in Cleveland until the Nets move to Brooklyn but he realized the Cavs would still suck without another decent player.
the Nets and Knicks were first to present to him because those were his top choices…he hates Noah and Rose..he also not a Miami kind of guy.
these are the odds who he signs with.
Nets 75%
Cavs 20%
Knicks 5%
he told the Nets that CP3 must be brought in within the next 2 years..this will happen.
either way Lebron will not be a Knick..he assured Jay-Z of that…
Cavs vs Nets for Lebron.
They've been saying that for hours.
World Series attitude, champagne bottle life, nothing every changes so tonight is like tomorrow night.
from yahoo
"LeBron always waits until the last minute to make a decision," said Chris Dennis, who used to run James’ foundation. "He always does."
at this point where a long shot at best..
looks like that’s the reason they had that conference call yesterday
don't worry guys
my source says the conference call between them was Lebron giving Wade and Bosh the heads up that his camp would feed misleading information to people about them joining forces.
Lebron will not be joining the Heat. 0% chance.
its between Cleveland and the Nets.
he is not Paul Pierce,Ray Allen or Kevin Garnett…he is on another level all to himself..he will not be joining Bosh and Wade to form a “Big 3”.
Chris Brousard will look like the biggest fool and i will just smile when it happens.
Chris Brousard will be selling vacume cleaners door to door by 10pm tonight.
Lebron to the Heat HAHAHAHHAHA.
"vacuum"
And you have a “source”? Wanna share any details at all on how the source is plugged in?
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