Nets Fall to Sixers on First Day of Summer League
by NetsDaily on Jul 5, 2010 9:53 PM EDT
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The Nets opened their 2010 Summer League schedule with a 84-74 loss to the Sixers in Orlando on Monday night. It was a foul-ridden affair, and except for a brief Nets lead early in the fourth quarter, Philly led from start to finish. Terrence Williams got into the paint at will, finishing with 23 points (including a pair of highlight dunks) and seven assists. Derrick Favors shot just 2-for-8 from the floor and committed seven fouls, but finished with eight points, nine rebounds and two blocks. Damion James and Ben Uzoh each finished with 11 points, Uzoh connecting on three of his five attempts from 3-point range. The Sixers were led by Jrue Holiday's 21 points and seven assists. Evan Turner finished with 12 points, eight rebounds and four assists.
- Boxscore - NBA.com
- Turner, Favors give glimpse of potential - Antonio Gonzalez - AP
- MAGIC: Holiday Guides Sixers Past Nets - Josh Cohen - Orlando Magic
- Draft picks show transition to pros not easy - Tania Ganguli & Josh Robbins - Orlando Sentinel
- Holiday Steals the Show in Summer League Opener (Video) - Comcast Sports Net
- Summer League Game 1: Sixers beat Nets; Holiday shines - Jordan Sams
- Top 10 Orlando Summer League Players To Watch - Sean Sweeney - DIME
- Post Game: Evan Turner and Derrick Favors (Video) - Steve Smith - NBA.com
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You can see the potential.
But the Nets are going to need someone to carry the torch until Favors is ready.
by No Sleep Till Brooklyn on Jul 5, 2010 9:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Notice Maurice shot horribly with Favors guarding him...
Derrick just needs to get comfortable and don’t go for the guard fakes.
by rundmc00 on Jul 5, 2010 9:57 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Hopefully he can do it with more efficiency though.
by caseycheesecake on Jul 6, 2010 12:09 PM EDT up reply actions
Twill was the most impressive
Favors had some good moments. Turner didn’t do much out there.
by eLonepb on Jul 5, 2010 9:56 PM EDT reply actions 3 recs
I thought Turner was solid.
He and Favors were the 2 best rookies out there.
by Air Force 1 on Jul 5, 2010 10:09 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Favors would be very good next to a good offensive center (Brook)
Will allow him to focus on defense and rebounding. Favors did get 9 rebounds in less than 30 minutes.
by rundmc00 on Jul 5, 2010 10:11 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
+1
Favors looks like the classic power forward right now he guards the paint well he did a awesome job on speights . When he wasn’t in the interior defense wasn’t there. He does have to work on his shot . But he can rebound and defend right now in the Nba.
by Hollywoodnet on Jul 5, 2010 10:19 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Another thing he needs to improve on is his ball handling.
When he is looking to drive to the hoop, the ball was constantly getting swiped out of his hands. This is the same problem he had back in college.
+1
He needs to protect the ball when going strong to the basket and coming down with the board.
by Hollywoodnet on Jul 5, 2010 10:34 PM EDT up reply actions
I like Uzoh...
I’m okay with Favors production in limited minutes. Smart with the ball and his man shot horribly. Obviously, fouls could be an issue.
by rundmc00 on Jul 5, 2010 9:57 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
I do love how high he gets his elbows after a rebound.
by ShawnG on Jul 5, 2010 10:00 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Zoebek should be cut
No wonder he wasn’t drafted, he got destroyed and will in NBA aswell. We need a veteran back up center. Zoebek needs to be cut, I liked Twill and Damion James. Favors is shy and should have demanded the ball a bit.
Agree
You recite my very thoughts. Zoebak did not play well,Twill needs to start working on his shot already,James played well but i didn’t like his body language.Favor did play a little shy but how much can you ask , from a still growing 18 yr old. Didn’t like Uzoh but the Kid Carter looked good.
three years ago
Marco Belinelli flew in from Italy to the Vegas summer league and scored 38 points in a summer league game.
Earl Barron had 33 in the Orlando Summer League the year before.
Both are records.
This just shows you how little Summer League determines one's career.
by Jbller3 on Jul 5, 2010 10:03 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
One thing we do see...
Is the Nets are playing TWil at PG either as Devin’s backup or maybe we trade Devin.
Crazy to trade Devin
But t-will should be the first guard off the bench . He’s a combo guard can play with Devin and be the pg and let Devin slide to sg . And also play with Courtney lee
by Hollywoodnet on Jul 5, 2010 10:31 PM EDT up reply actions
that game that t-will played today proves the point that i have been trying to make
he is a very good player and good with the ball but cant be a point guard, he was missing alot of open people, throwing plenty of bad passes and had 4 to’s. im not saying he is bad(He’s one of my favorite nets), but hes just not a pg.
Not a test
These guys have not played together much and many of them are not NBA ready anyway. I don’t think you can judge his PG skills until he has had a unit of real NBA players to work with for a month or so
Good point... BUT
This is not the time to lose again. This is FA week in the biggest FA period in the history of the NBA. We start off just the way we left off. This was a perfect opportunity to maybe have our guys be more prepared then the other team, maybe get them in the gym together more….something. Normally summer league means nothing, but in my opinion, this was a terrible way to start.
LOL...
Terrible summer league?
You do realize that Philly had 3 starters and we had none.
TWil look very good at PG and some of the other guys looked okay. I am very happy and can’t wait until tomorrow’s game.
by rundmc00 on Jul 5, 2010 10:10 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
I think D. James did fine.
He needs more passes from Twill!
by Air Force 1 on Jul 5, 2010 10:13 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Just wanted to say something....
Hi guys I’m a Grizzlies fan but, I’m a huge fan of Favors as well. I think that he will be a great player in the NBA in time. I thought that Terrence Williams did a very good job that game. And, Damion James I believe will be a good player as well.
And, for the guys who said that Favors is a project and will take years before he’s ready to contribute you all need to remember something. It is EXTREMELY RARE to find a big man that is truly NBA ready. Second, it was his first NBA experience. I vividly remember guys like Durant, Rose, Mayo, Westbrook (I’m aware that they are all perimeter players but, I’m trying to make a point) who are all rising NBA stars struggling badly in the Summer League. Third, yeah Favors is a little raw but he ain’t got nothing on Hasheem Thabeet. The game that Favors played was better than every game that Thabeet ever played in the Summer League.
by SonofMemphis on Jul 5, 2010 10:04 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
I like his aggressiveness on the boards, something we obviously lack.
by Tim823 on Jul 5, 2010 10:15 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Wait till he guards Amare. Foul. Foul. Foul. Block. Foul. Foul. Bench.
"...where they don't play with a shot clock." - C. Sager
by kv on Jul 5, 2010 10:16 PM EDT up reply actions
All while people will claim that in 2 years Amare will be in a wheel chair and we are the better team.
The Nets are a better team, but for those looking for positives about Favors’ play need to imagine him trying to guard a REAL NBA PF. He would be eaten alive.
The point isn’t that he sucks, its that he’s at least 2 year away.
"...where they don't play with a shot clock." - C. Sager
by kv on Jul 5, 2010 10:29 PM EDT up reply actions
We'll see...
I don’t judge players based on their first summer league game.
Apparently you don’t judge them by an entire year in college either.
"...where they don't play with a shot clock." - C. Sager
by kv on Jul 5, 2010 10:34 PM EDT up reply actions
I know, don’t bother me about the facts, I got my own vision of the future.
"...where they don't play with a shot clock." - C. Sager
by kv on Jul 5, 2010 10:37 PM EDT up reply actions
I'll wait until he gets some real NBA coaching...
Plays with real NBA players against real NBA competition. Then I will decide but you can keep sharing your crystal ball with us.
Why don’t you just wait until the 2012 season, they way you’ll be sure that you know what you know.
"...where they don't play with a shot clock." - C. Sager
by kv on Jul 5, 2010 10:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Hey...
Maybe you should be GM since you are so good at player evaluation.
How many fouls did Turner have today?
Yeah, maybe nobody should say anything about the future because we want to make sure you don’t think too hard.
"...where they don't play with a shot clock." - C. Sager
by kv on Jul 5, 2010 10:46 PM EDT up reply actions
If you paid attention to what I said, he reminded me of Bynum in his first year with the Lakers.
Now Bynum, if he was healthy, would be the second best big man in the game. But it took him several years to get his game together.
Even Dwight took time. To expect Favors to solve, or even contribute mightily to the PF problem is in my book naive.
So yes, let’s agree to disagree.
"...where they don't play with a shot clock." - C. Sager
by kv on Jul 5, 2010 10:50 PM EDT up reply actions
Just LOOK at him against D-leaguers. He is crazy raw.
"...where they don't play with a shot clock." - C. Sager
by kv on Jul 5, 2010 10:44 PM EDT up reply actions
That’s why we still NEED to get a PF/C in free-agency. Anyone from Bosh/ Boozer/ Lee/ Scola will be a big addition for our team.
+1
I’m tired of all the the Yis, the Swifts and the Swats. We need an elite front court rotation if we have hopes of making the playoffs.
Yes. That is my point. Favors isn’t going to solve the PF question this year.
"...where they don't play with a shot clock." - C. Sager
by kv on Jul 5, 2010 10:30 PM EDT up reply actions
One game,,,Favors showed some signs
Albeit small signs, He went hard to the basket off passes, He finished, Seem coposed and calm, Seemed able to handle the comp, Blocks a few shots and heped Sprieghts shoot poorly, I would say it was middling,,,nit bad for a first game, Turner about the same, Best players today: One goes to Lance Strephenson and two goes to TWill
by Brooklyn John on Jul 5, 2010 11:03 PM EDT up reply actions
I don’t have anymore patience to wait 3 years for him to develop. I like him a lot…. but I also watched 70 losses last season, and we get this big time big spender for an owner, I just want to win now, and win later… not be mediocre now, win later.
You don’t put up a 200 ft billboard to wait 3 years for him to maybe become good!
Ill say it again though, I like the kid(I for sure want to keep him, there is no reason why we cant)… but he needs to come off the bench behind an all star!
seriously?
we were a play-off team less than 3 years ago, and two awful seasons and people are whining about being out of patience. Sheesh.
I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson
well said
"Some people want it to happen, some wish it would happen, others make it happen." Micheal Jordan
"I don't need too much. Glamour and all that stuff don't excite me. I am just glad I have the game of basketball in my life." -- LeBron James
by njchamp1 on Jul 5, 2010 10:19 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Favors seems to make pretty good decisions with the ball...
His shooting stroke is not horrible but the results are not good yet. He needs to shoot about 1,000 times a day in practice.
by rundmc00 on Jul 5, 2010 10:06 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Favors needs the ball more...
Post ups, pick and rolls, pick and pops. He looked pretty active today, so I was happy about that. He had deep position in the post a couple times. It’d be nice to see him get used to scoring. He has potential to be more than just a garbage man.
by mikegrand15 on Jul 5, 2010 10:16 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
rebounding, and intimidation, thats what Favors showed off tonight. Uzoh showed some nice range, shooting 3 for 5 on 3pters. i do agree Zoubeck did disappoint, id give him a couple more games,
by Benl1 on Jul 5, 2010 10:16 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
PATIENCE, people...
For most of these kids, it’s their first game against nba level talent… summer league doesn’t mean a thing. We’re NOT going 12-70 again based on one meaningless summer league game… have some patience.
by JohnFromLongIsland on Jul 5, 2010 10:17 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
More important is that James could only shake his head NO, when asked if there was a timetable to make a decision.
http://www.realgm.com/src_wiretap_archives/67861/20100705/lebron_indicates_no_decision_or_timetable/
That is NOT a good sign for Cavs, if he couldn’t be more “upbeat” in front of his hometown audience.
Word is starting to spread nationally, that it is between Nets, Cavs and Bulls.
It would hurt the analysts so much to say Nets first.
However, it seems that LeBron is letting DWade have first choice at the Bulls, since that is where his family is.
And if LeBron only watched that game, he would realize that TWill must be an asset when comparing Nets with Bulls
and Favors can rebound in NBA – less need for Bosh.
If we get James, I say get Bosh...
If we miss out on James, I say Lee.
Forget Boozer because he is more win now. If we get James and Wade/Bosh go to Chicago…I would go for Boozer.
Bosh says he likes Sam Mitchell aswell
Sam Mitchell bought out the best in Bosh and knows him best he can use him greatly with Lebron.
Well……..if he lets Wade have his first choice, and Wade goes to Chicago, we got Bron. You agree, jerry?
Hoping, but I definitely would like to see some "sign", like Maverick Carter coming to Jersey or LeBron giving the signal to interview Boozer/DLee.
If only Jay-Z was as persuasive as I am, or better yet, as Avery Johnson is, then it would be no contest.
Jay-Z has said some stupid things, and I’m not at all confident that he could argue that Nets have better core and future than Cavs or Bulls.
People in the media keep saying things like “no one really knows anything about Prokhorov”. or “If not for playing 3 years in Newark, I would definitely give Nets a chance”.
Jay-Z should have answered those questions long ago.
I dont think Lebron would want to play in the same division
Lebron would feel the Bulls with Wade would hurt Cavs chances in the division. He should come to the Nets!!! Where he can dominate the division.
TWill sumemr league stats don't mean anything.
The point is to give others a chance to show what they can do. He is functioning more like a camp counselor.
Nothing surprising
Derrick needs to learn how to create his shot…he cant do that…he needs lots of help in that department.
"We’re the new Nets. We’re leaving the old behind and we’re in with the new. Hopefully LeBron is going to be a part of that."
-Coach Avery Johnson.
Amare didnt come in with a shot.. Neither did Dwight
And Favors is mostly compared to them. And Amare Just got a Jumper last year and Howard is still trying to find one on ebay or craigslist. So I’m good. The word is that the kid will continue to work. Which means he will continue to get better. The strong silent type. Just give him time.
The NETS are coming!
David LEE PLAYS NO DEFENSE!!!!
Thats what Avery wants, David Lee didnt guard anyone he would save all of his energy to score. If he plays D he wont score that much. He isnt a franchise player and didnt deserve to be an all star, just like someone on ESPN said would David Lee start on any of the final 4 playoff teams in NBA. NO!!
would love david lee on this team
"We’re the new Nets. We’re leaving the old behind and we’re in with the new. Hopefully LeBron is going to be a part of that."
-Coach Avery Johnson.
by Andy. on Jul 5, 2010 10:34 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I am somewhat indifferent between Lee and Boozer...
But Boozer is the better player when healthy.
yeah dont get me wrong
i’ll be happy with either…Booz and Lee are my favorite big men of this FA class
"We’re the new Nets. We’re leaving the old behind and we’re in with the new. Hopefully LeBron is going to be a part of that."
-Coach Avery Johnson.
Are you sure? Shaq is still out there....
"...where they don't play with a shot clock." - C. Sager
by kv on Jul 5, 2010 10:40 PM EDT up reply actions
I know, you better act fast!
"...where they don't play with a shot clock." - C. Sager
by kv on Jul 5, 2010 10:41 PM EDT up reply actions
neither do any of the other fa pfs
I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson
He would Start in orlando....
Definantly would. I think they are done trying to make Lewis as a PF.
The NETS are coming!
He had Favors rebounding really well...
Our other bigs are horrible.
Zoubek can be our 14th man...
But we need another backup big. Shoulda kept Yi ;-)
theres someone on our team named BOONE
WHO is very active on the boards…quick on his feet…after seeing zoubek today…lets resign BOONE
"We’re the new Nets. We’re leaving the old behind and we’re in with the new. Hopefully LeBron is going to be a part of that."
-Coach Avery Johnson.
exactly
"We’re the new Nets. We’re leaving the old behind and we’re in with the new. Hopefully LeBron is going to be a part of that."
-Coach Avery Johnson.
Way to be optimistic champ
LOL. Favors looked fluid. In NBA game 1 as a 18 year old…lol. If this is the negative energy you bring us.. Its time fr you to find a new TEAM. The Clippers could use you.
The NETS are coming!
It's funny when you have to explain yourself after failing sarchasm online.
(I was being sarcastic)
by caseycheesecake on Jul 6, 2010 12:12 PM EDT up reply actions
we needed the cap space, which is why they traded yi
zoubek has no offensive game and only rebounds and fouls alot
Twill is the man
great game excited for the future
by killa kadafi191 on Jul 5, 2010 10:43 PM EDT reply actions
Like Uzoh a lot...
James looks like he could be a bad azz.
Sorry, I was thinking of DJames.
Yes, Uzoh looks like a keeper.
Well WE GOT JAMES!!!
D James that is. He will make a very nice Lebron understudy.
Love the fact that favors kept Shooting. The form was pretty ok. Everyone misses shots. He obviously feels he can make those. I like Uzi too! Looks like a solid #2.
The NETS are coming!
Nets apparently still kept rights to Boone, so if LeBron falls through, they might re-sign him.
Still, I would prefer someone who is 3 inches taller than Josh.
look off the bench u need someone with hustle
boone brings that…other than his free throw shooting…hes never really disappointed me…
he’ll be our aaron williams
"We’re the new Nets. We’re leaving the old behind and we’re in with the new. Hopefully LeBron is going to be a part of that."
-Coach Avery Johnson.
recs
"No one stands on the top of the world. Not you, not me, not even gods. But the unbearable vacancy of the throne in the sky is over. From now on...I will be sitting on it."
by MrDollarBills on Jul 6, 2010 7:31 AM EDT up reply actions
Be nice to get someone who could make free throws...
Those count in games… (See today..we shot horrible from the line). If you are a defensive team you will play low scoring games cant support a %40 FT shooter
The NETS are coming!
Why are Knicks talking to Mike Miller (nothing imminent) if they believe they are still in LeBron hunt?
That is what Frank Isola tweets:
Miller will fit in quite nicely
"No one stands on the top of the world. Not you, not me, not even gods. But the unbearable vacancy of the throne in the sky is over. From now on...I will be sitting on it."
by MrDollarBills on Jul 6, 2010 7:31 AM EDT up reply actions
What I like about Favors
Is that he does everything hard, he’s a beast to be 18 smh, he’s going to be a problem when he gets comfortable, has good hands.
He is going to rebound at a very high rate...
If the kid works his tail off, he will be fine.
I liked his interview after the game. Just seems like a nice kid.
lol when I watched the interview I looked at him was like
Damn he really is 18, crazy but looks like the better prospect over Turner.
hes terrible on offense though
other then dunking it hard…he cant do anything else…very limited offensively…i hope nets try to develop his offensive game,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zMK4UXr3XrU
"We’re the new Nets. We’re leaving the old behind and we’re in with the new. Hopefully LeBron is going to be a part of that."
-Coach Avery Johnson.
whats the point it will led us no where...
oh what am i saying….
nothing we post here will lead us anywhere
"We’re the new Nets. We’re leaving the old behind and we’re in with the new. Hopefully LeBron is going to be a part of that."
-Coach Avery Johnson.
Hey guys, big Louisville fan here.
I really hope Twill keeps improving, I’d love to see him tear up the NBA. Us Louisville fans really missed him last year. He really was an exciting player and a team-first guy.
I’d love to see him kick John Wall’s ass if/when you all play the Wizards!
"Young men, I have no doubt that you're gonna do well today. But I have 1 favor to ask of you... SAVE JIMMY JOHNSON'S ASS FOR ME!" Lou Holtz
by TheRealSlimShady on Jul 5, 2010 11:16 PM EDT reply actions
If he is a starter.
" I'm really excited to take the worst team in the league and turn it to be the best in the league." --Mikhail Prokhorov.
Wouldn’t he start at SG if you all get a SF?
"Young men, I have no doubt that you're gonna do well today. But I have 1 favor to ask of you... SAVE JIMMY JOHNSON'S ASS FOR ME!" Lou Holtz
by TheRealSlimShady on Jul 7, 2010 10:40 PM EDT up reply actions
haha
practicing so soon?
"We’re the new Nets. We’re leaving the old behind and we’re in with the new. Hopefully LeBron is going to be a part of that."
-Coach Avery Johnson.
Uzoh
looks like a keeper if he consistently hits open shots.
In the Recent Posts section, article titled ‘’In One Game, Planning For Another’‘, it says Rod Thorn is keeping in ’’regular touch’’ with Bron’s agents. That means he probably wants to come here, and Bron is telling his agents to tell Thorn what he wants them to do. I think you’ll see something happen(Bosh, Humphries trade) within 24 hours. Nothing certain, just my guess.
T-Will looked pretty good
Didn’t like the one rebound, but its only summer league.
Favors just needs to get adjusted. He’s going to be a beast
"No one stands on the top of the world. Not you, not me, not even gods. But the unbearable vacancy of the throne in the sky is over. From now on...I will be sitting on it."
Also....
….wasn’t impressed by Zoubek, but its just the first game. Udoh intrigues me. He can definitely hit the 3
"No one stands on the top of the world. Not you, not me, not even gods. But the unbearable vacancy of the throne in the sky is over. From now on...I will be sitting on it."
Shooters???
We could use some shooters.
How about Anthony Morrow?… He can shoot it!
Al Harrington 6’9 SCORER… Can shoot the 3 and can start of produce from the bench.
Kyle Korer?
Eddie house?
Mike Miller?
The NETS are coming!
I want no part of Al Harrington. The man single-handedly lost the Knicks four games last season through his own stupidity.
He’s a scorer for one primary reason – he doesn’t pass.
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yep and he throws up ugly shot after ugly shot
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^
The very reason my co-host and I have dubbed him Bricks Harrington.
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After yesterdays game, prohky has new goal...
“I will now settle for one Summer League championship in next five years”
by yankeesnets on Jul 6, 2010 4:18 AM EDT via mobile reply actions 2 recs
I'm finding it hard to be patient
After the last two years I was hoping that Favors would at least make a difference on the defensive end but like I’ve been told before it’s going to take some time. He has the size but I need to see the talent. The jury is out as far as I’m concerned. A top PF signing would speed up his development and we need one desperately or we are not much better than last year. It would have been nice if Favors left me with the impression that it was just a matter of time but he didn’t. Oh well. First game for an 18 year old, I’ll write it off. I hope Rod’s statement that he could contribute “right away” on the defensive side was correct.
FAVORS
Favors is a shy and quiet guy which is not necessarily a bad thing but on the court I would say be a little more hungrier. You can definitely see what he is capable of after that game, really just a major force down in the key. I would definitely say “dwight howard” if I see anybodies game he would most resemble. Looks promising. I must also say T.Will already looks like he progressed tremendously and I think we got a steal in Damion James; he was very active on floor, good movement, very smart.
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