Nets Talked With Jeff Bower; Interested in Joe Dumars Too
by Net Income on Jul 5, 2010 7:12 AM EDT
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The Nets spoke Saturday with Hornets GM Jeff Bower about their soon to be open GM job. Al Iannazzone reports both Bower and Dumars were interviewed, but in an email to the Detroit Free Press, Dumars denies it. Still, there seems little doubt the Nets are interested in the Hall of Famer. Thunder GM Sam Presti is also a candidate to replace Rod Thorn.
Bower has been Hornets GM since 2005. He rebuilt the team through Hurricane Katrina and temporary move to Oklahoma City. Then, he had to make deep cuts as the team was put up for sale. The season before he took over, the Hornets won 18 games. Three years later, led by Chris Paul, they won 56, then 49.
Although Bower gets kudos for keeping Paul and David West happy and making some smart trades, his draft record has been at best spotty, taking Hilton Armstrong, Cedric Simmons and Julian Wright with picks between #12 and #15. On the other hand, he grabbed Darren Collison at #22 last year. Like Kiki Vandeweghe, he was given the coaching reins in mid-season and won only 37 games with Paul out a good part of the year.
Dumars had success in Detroit, winning a championship in 2004 and being named Executive of the year the season before. But he's been maligned for his use of cap space last summer, signing Ben Gordon and Charlie Villanueva to big deals. He also signed Richard Hamilton and Tayshaun Prince to long term contracts that are now seen as burdens. His big promoter in Detroit, owner Bill Davidson, died last year and the team is now up for sale. The Free Press reports that although Dumars denied the Saturday meeting, he did not respond to emails asking if he has been contacted by the Nets or whether he planned to talk to them in the future. Later, Freep's Vince Ellis reported the Nets are indeed interested.
Adrian Wojnarowski says Thorn's No. 2, Bobby Marks, is also gaining "strong traction and internal support," while Fred Kerber reports that Marks and Presti "have been leading the field." Meanwhile, Dave D'Alessandro reports that Avery Johnson may not be happy with Bower, who may have had a hand in sabotaging Johnson's chances for the Hornets job. Dave D also reports that Johnson may hire yet another former head coach as an assistant. After interviewing Eric Musselman (Kings and Warriors) last month, the team will talk to Larry Krystowiak (Bucks) this week.
- Nets to speak with Hornets GM - Adrian Wojnarowski - Yahoo! Sports
- Nets interview Joe Dumars, Jeff Bower for Rod Thorn's spot - Al Iannazzone - The Record
- Nets eye Joe Dumars for team president - Vince Ellis - Detroit Free Press
- Dumars denies interviewing for Nets GM job - Vincent Goodwill - Detroit News
- Nets have interest in Pistons' Dumars - Rob Parker - ESPN New York
- Nets are darn right to like Dumars - Rob Parker - ESPN New York
- Will Avery Johnson take issue with a Nets GM candidate? - Dave D'Alessandro - Star-Ledger
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Hopefully, they’re not serious about him and just using this to see the availability of Paul.
The guy I want for GM is the guy from OKC (forgot his name)
by AriGold31 on Jul 4, 2010 7:57 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
I don't know enough about him to say it's bad
but it seems…uninspiring?
I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson
Kerber's said Marks, Presti or Bowen...
He is almost always right. Hopefully, we get permission for Presti or we go with Marks.
by rundmc00 on Jul 4, 2010 8:01 PM EDT via mobile reply actions 1 recs
No
he said Marks, Presti and BOWER.
http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/nets/bosh_pow_wow_on_nets_agenda_V9TA1xJsOOUca4IHEmEH3I
by Net Income on Jul 4, 2010 8:15 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
you don't think bruce bowen is being considered for the gm role?
I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson
im jokin chill
I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson
Can't get the link
What does it say?
by rundmc00 on Jul 4, 2010 8:10 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Blackberry can't get link...
What’s it say? Thanks.
by rundmc00 on Jul 4, 2010 8:12 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Prokhorov thinks Nets chances are 50-50
or so he reportedly told a waiter. It was posted at 7 a.m. in the news section, then again in a thread on another story.
by Net Income on Jul 4, 2010 8:15 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
im offended that someone paid him to write an entire story around this quote
"He said it looks 50-50," the employee said. "I said, ‘50 is a lot.’ And he said, ‘It’s 50-50.’ I said, ‘So many things are 50-percent.’ And he said, ‘Yea, we’re about 50 percent.’"
are writers just desperate for any story?
I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson
I'm offended it keeps getting posted in OTHER THREADS
when it was posted at 7 a.m.
This is a thread about a new GM, which is far more important what Prokhorov said or didnt say to a waiter or owner.
i know...
Lebron isnt coming to the nets my fellow nets fans…
time to move on
"We’re the new Nets. We’re leaving the old behind and we’re in with the new. Hopefully LeBron is going to be a part of that."
-Coach Avery Johnson.
What's changed...
Gotta believe we are still in the mix…
If we had a zero percent chance, Jay-Z would know.
by rundmc00 on Jul 4, 2010 8:46 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
hes staying in cleveland
they spent $300,000 in order to make a family guy episode for him…
no way lebron can say no to that…
"We’re the new Nets. We’re leaving the old behind and we’re in with the new. Hopefully LeBron is going to be a part of that."
-Coach Avery Johnson.
You're kidding right?
Proky will give him his own friggin tv network.
by rundmc00 on Jul 4, 2010 8:49 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
lies!
"No one stands on the top of the world. Not you, not me, not even gods. But the unbearable vacancy of the throne in the sky is over. From now on...I will be sitting on it."
by MrDollarBills on Jul 5, 2010 3:05 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
i'd rather cry in a porsche
I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson
Nello huh
must of gotten that place from Jigga
http://www.beyoncefan.com/2009/10/27/beyonce-jay-z-spotted-at-nellos-again-photos/
God no
The guy has a terrible track record. Made that horrible trade for Emeka Okafor, made some terrible draft picks… Gave Posey his ugly contract. I don’t know who gave Peja and Mo Pete their deals, but he may have been part of that too.
by J-Kay on Jul 4, 2010 8:26 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
yeah i think he's been their gm for most of the decade
so he was there for those deals
I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson
by Gina on Jul 4, 2010 8:33 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
What also is important is what Nets are doing to keep Boozer and especially DLee on hold, should LeBron fall through?
I assume Nets are talking with the agents for DLee and Boozer, but Knicks have plans to use DLee in a S&T as soon as Amare is finalized.
My understanding is that Phoenix renounced all of Amare’s rights, but Knicks didn’t renounce DLee’s rights.
My understanding is that if Knicks planned on signing a Max FA, such as LeBron, they would then have to renounce DLee’s rights.
Assuming the LeBron to Knicks talk is false, the Knicks might interest another team in DLee, as he is their only trading chip right now. If they traded DLee for say a 6 year contract, starting at 11 million per year, and brought back someone making say 12 million, then Knicks would have about 6 million in cap space left.
As I understand, DLee has to approve of any S&T??
It is time for the Nets to take action to prevent Knicks from using DLee to improve their team. They must interview DLee (and Boozer) and have a deal waiting, should LeBron fall through, IMO.
Otherwise, Nets could strike out in free agency.
They don’t have to put all their marbles on LeBron.
wrong thread?
I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson
there's a thread about Lebron and free agency
right below this one.
I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson
Need to have a thread focused on losing David Lee due to obsession with LeBron
Real GM is a pretty good place to get recent news:
I would hate to see Nets strike out on free agency because of this.
I’d rather “strike out” and hang onto the cap than overpay for David Lee. The mentality of “I have cap room I must spend it immediately” is what led to Detroit signing Gordon and Villanueva to those ludicrous deals.
by J-Kay on Jul 4, 2010 8:45 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
on the list of things nets/nets fans need
a thread about David Lee is probably near the bottom.
I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson
Following David Lee is a key to following what the Knicks are up to.
At present the Knicks may be the leading competition for LeBron.
Perhaps Cavs are out, Miami wouldn’t work, Chicago is for DWade.
Knicks have to renounce Lee’s rights before signing a Big FA, besides Amare.
Knicks also are looking for a S&T if they can’t get LeBron. DLee is their only chip to get an outside player they desire. Nets can prevent that by keeping DLee waiting on LeBron’s decision.
Preventing Knicks from getting what they want is important.
No I believe that too.
Perhaps there should be a Jerry’s Thoughts thread.
"...where they don't play with a shot clock." - C. Sager
by kv on Jul 5, 2010 11:32 AM EDT up reply actions
Perhaps Rod Thorn is too pre-occupied interviewing for his replacement, that he is off the ball on free agency.
Why does Rod have to step down exactly on July 15?
Why can’t he just say he’ll step down after free agency is settled and there is time to find and train a new GM.
Maybe Rod can stay on with an advisory role?
And why was it said that Rod isn’t retiring completely? Something doesn’t add up.
This is all related to the current thread.
IF
that were true, than WHY would DLEE’s agent say he’s talked to Thorn each of the last 3 days. I think, actually I know Thorn knows how to handle these issues much more than anyone on this board. Let’s stop assuming that he is off the ball. The guy, if nothing else has shown he is one of the best poker players in the industry. He is a very smart and shrewd business man.
he doesn't seem very impressive at all
in fact, his record seems like the definition of mediocre.
by shane gayle on Jul 4, 2010 8:39 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
just because he drafted chris paul
that doesn’t make him a good gm, He struck out on Hilton Armstrong, Cedric Simmons and Julian Wright with high draft picks . Those guys arn’t even serviceable bench players. chris paul deserves the credit for the turn around in new orleans not bower
by kk30 on Jul 4, 2010 8:42 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Sam Presti or make a Rod Thorn clone
"We’re the new Nets. We’re leaving the old behind and we’re in with the new. Hopefully LeBron is going to be a part of that."
-Coach Avery Johnson.
by Andy. on Jul 4, 2010 8:44 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Presti or Marks
Bower makes no sense.
We’ve swung for the fences so far. I don’t get this guy even being on the list.
by rundmc00 on Jul 4, 2010 8:47 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
Read the updated post on LeBronathon
details on the Knick meeting…and word that the Nets would sign Amare as well if if guaranteed them LeBron.
We are in a precarious position right now. If lebron and bosh dont come and we end up with nobody and hire this dude Bower our offseason will look horrible. The only positives will be favors and James.
I do not want this guy Bower he doesnt even look like a NJ guy.
His track record isnt even impressive. Good god what are the nets doing????
by power_njerz on Jul 4, 2010 8:57 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
we got two great draft picks
the only thing that could make our off-season horrible is throwing money at guys
I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson
by Gina on Jul 4, 2010 10:30 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
This! Plus we have thrown money at quality coaches and an agreesive marketing campaign. The only way we stuff this up is if we panic.
by dbnet on Jul 5, 2010 4:00 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Have to see if Presti is available. He has big shoes to fill. I don’t want Bower, he looks like he will drop from a heart attack. (I wish him no harm)
LETS GO NETS!
by JustinNJ on Jul 4, 2010 9:08 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Getting uglier
So the Knicks get a 2nd meeting with Bron, and possibly a 3rd if a tweet i just read is true, the Nets have had no contact with Lebron since July 1, no contact that we know of with 2nd tier guys if plan A falls through, and now might consider Bower for GM. Anyone else getting nauseous?
they had a 2nd meeting with his agent
not with Lebron
I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson
Marks is the guy
He has studied under Rod for ten years, he is a cap guru…
On another note, please respect NI/ND and keep posts relevant to the topic.
-Say man when I was growing up we wanted a Jacuzzi, we had to fart in the tub.
by NetLogic on Jul 4, 2010 9:37 PM EDT via mobile reply actions 1 recs
please be right about marks...
Bower is a bad joke. All it takes is one look at his resume.
by rundmc00 on Jul 4, 2010 9:40 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I shudder at Bower.
I like Marks, he knows the players, he has drafted well, and he has learned under Thorn. Please GOD NO to Bower. I think he has been one of the worst general managers in the league over his tenure. So many bad contracts handed out and bad draft picks too. The fact that this guy brought in Okafor, and signed guys like Peja and Posey to obscene contracts, is the reason why they may have to trade their franchise player Paul. That is unforgiveable to set your team up like that with such limited options and put the team in such a precarious situation. This would be the worst possible news to hire this guy.
by Chris2 on Jul 4, 2010 9:52 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
yeah I don't understand what the attraction to Bower is.
I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson
Like i said in the other thread
i will stop watching every offseason if he became the GM of the nets this guy is terrible
"Avery Johnson: Erase to Replace"
by Wall2KingJames on Jul 4, 2010 9:54 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
I would rather go for Presti and/or Buford.
" I'm really excited to take the worst team in the league and turn it to be the best in the league." --Mikhail Prokhorov.
by Claud on Jul 4, 2010 10:00 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Presti is under contract.
We can’t just “go” for him.
by No Sleep Till Brooklyn on Jul 4, 2010 10:06 PM EDT up reply actions
When the owner is Proky
You can go after anybody, even Lebron.
by 3ptChucker on Jul 4, 2010 11:53 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
So "Mike" is named owner and swiftly gets rid of Kiki (no complaints)
For whatever reason Thorn doesn’t sign a contract (not happy but I’m behind the team)
When I think of Nets success Rod comes to mind. I thought he’d be with the team for life..oh well Go Nets!
Any way you slice it losing Rod is a major loss. Optimally you retain Thorn as president and bring in a really successful GM like Presti or Pritchard to work under Thorn. If you take out Thorn and replace him with a guy like Bower, all I can say is, I hope they set the team up for the future very well this offseason, because I would have little faith Bower would make the right moves going forward.
by Chris2 on Jul 4, 2010 10:29 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
is there any information on why they're interested in him?
like what connection there is or who suggested him/is pushing for him or what they like about him?
I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson
is there any connection to Thorn?
and why does Thorn like him? I mean it just seems like there’s nothing particularly inspiring about his track record.
I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson
This is just speculation but
maybe Avery liked him? He seriously considered going to NO, and its important that GM and coach don’t clash.
Actually, Avery thought Bower sabotaged his chances of getting the New Orleans job.
by lupojohn3 on Jul 5, 2010 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
He looks like a shorter, fatter Jesse Ventura.
by No Sleep Till Brooklyn on Jul 4, 2010 10:57 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
LOL. Jesse “the Body” Ventura!
LETS GO NETS!
by JustinNJ on Jul 4, 2010 11:11 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
this is not a good look
I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson
by Gina on Jul 4, 2010 11:02 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Lol someone's being generous...
" I'm really excited to take the worst team in the league and turn it to be the best in the league." --Mikhail Prokhorov.
oh I meant for us not for him
I mean we walk in with bada** looking 6’10 Prokhorov, Jay-Z who always looks fresh, the little general…and then this dude?
I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson
by Gina on Jul 4, 2010 11:12 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
-Say man when I was growing up we wanted a Jacuzzi, we had to fart in the tub.
by NetLogic on Jul 4, 2010 11:22 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
His draft record...
His draft record isn’t too terrible I know we see the names Hilton Armstrong and Cedric Simmons and think “OMG WTF!!!”
But look at the other players in that draft class drafted after those two guys:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2006_NBA_Draft
Now consider that the Hornets already had CP3…
Yep. See in the case of those two guys, not as bad as the names would indicate…
yeah but there's still not anyone very good in his record either
paul fell to him, and that’s about it. Julian Wright?
I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson
by Gina on Jul 4, 2010 11:56 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
and compared to what guys like Presti and Pritchard have done it's still terrible.
I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson
by Gina on Jul 4, 2010 11:57 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
To even consider Bower is criminal
as long as Presti, Pritchard , Bill Simmons and at least 5 others that are better are still alive
bill simmons????
I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson
no
he said too may mean things about nj on that bs fa summit.
COLANGELO.
by corky_romano4life on Jul 5, 2010 12:38 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
hahaha
how are you gonna put bill simmons in the same sentence as pritchard and presti? simmons is the classic fan who thinks he can do better than every GM. put him in charge of any team and he destroys them.
by mikegrand15 on Jul 5, 2010 4:28 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Take my 100 million..please
Of course if we sign Lebron then we’ll already have a GM
UPDATE
Iannazzone says they also interviewed Joe Dumars, and that Presti is a candidate.
NetsDaily.com
by NetsDaily on Jul 5, 2010 6:31 AM EDT reply actions 2 recs
NOW we're talkin'!
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by Rusty_b on Jul 5, 2010 6:47 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
By the way, I was going to post a FanPost about how Avery may feel about a Jeff Bower hire lol. I mean in his own introductory press conference with the Nets, Avery indirectly (but not so subtly) referenced the New Orleans front office’s lack of decisiveness.
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by Rusty_b on Jul 5, 2010 6:51 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Presti as GM, Bill Simmons as Asst GM
I recommend Presti as GM and Bill Simmons as Assistant GM. We know Sam Presti is good from what he has done with the OKC Thunder. Bill Simmons aka “Sports Guy” knows basketball. These two together would be a dream team in terms of management. Bill Simmons would also get the Nets a lot of great exposure throughout the country.
Who's replacing Thorn?
While your at it maybe we can hire Bruce Bowen as his replacement since you want Presti to become our GM :)
by jasperjarrod on Jul 5, 2010 7:21 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Bill Simmons is an idiot
sorry, just because he can be funny every now and then doesn’t mean that the man is smart.
"No one stands on the top of the world. Not you, not me, not even gods. But the unbearable vacancy of the throne in the sky is over. From now on...I will be sitting on it."
by MrDollarBills on Jul 5, 2010 10:58 AM EDT up reply actions
I want Sam Presti/ Kevin Pritchard/ Bobby Marks/ RC Buford for President!
Please no to Bickerstaff, Dumars or Bower.
The Nets should give the reigns to a smart young exec who will have a better grasp of today’s NBA than most of the old GMs in the league.
I also want someone who has held office or has experience working with the Spurs, which is hands down the best organization in the league.
by Air Force 1 on Jul 5, 2010 7:00 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Sam Presti for President of the United States!
I mean of the Nets!
by jasperjarrod on Jul 5, 2010 7:24 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Say no to Joe
He did a great job making a champion of Detroit, but then destroyed them for years to come(Darko pick). His recent moves have been horrible.
by nwknet on Jul 5, 2010 2:30 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Netsdaily just tweeted
That according to shamsports the Nets are currently 31.1 million over the cap. Lol!
Probably he meant under the cap ;)
by jasperjarrod on Jul 5, 2010 7:28 AM EDT via mobile reply actions 1 recs
No, it's over.
Look at the link attached to the tweet. They have a bunch of cap holds (Simmons $16.2M, Battie $9.9M, Hassell $8.7M) that technically put them that much over the cap. When they renounce those players, then they get under the cap with only their 6 roster players and Dooling’s $500k partial guarantee on the books.
NetsDaily.com
I see
Thanks for clearing that up!
by jasperjarrod on Jul 5, 2010 7:54 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
for real
Those names make me want to puke.
I’d rather go for Presti, or let Colangelo come in here. Dumars showed awful judgement giving Charlie V and BG that kind of money that has now crippled Detroit. Keep him the heck away from here dude, seriously.
"No one stands on the top of the world. Not you, not me, not even gods. But the unbearable vacancy of the throne in the sky is over. From now on...I will be sitting on it."
by MrDollarBills on Jul 5, 2010 11:00 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
We could do worse than Joe Dumars
Sure, he took Darko with a #2 pick and he signed Gordon and Villanueva BUT he also engineered a Championship for his team on the back of Grant Hill for Ben Wallace, Jerry Stackhouse for Rip Hamilton, and Zeljko Rebraca, Bob Sura, Chucky Atkins, Lindsey Hunter for Rasheed Wallace trades… and then there are some of the un-heralded picks:
- Mehmet Okur with pick #38
- Tayshaun Prince with pick #23
- Jason Maxiell with pick #26
- Rodney Stuckey with pick #15
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by Rusty_b on Jul 5, 2010 8:26 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
we could do worse
we could also do a lot better.
I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson
by Gina on Jul 5, 2010 10:24 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Darko, there horrible use of cap space and one quick title and never getting over the hump thereafter. The Iverson trade was awful. There long term extensions that they can’t move. Please we can do way better, for a team in our situation detroit is a model for what we don’t want to do.
by shea23 on Jul 5, 2010 8:30 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
"One quick title"?
What does that even mean?
For four years from ’04 through to ’07, they were on top of the East. To criticize them for “only” winning one title in that span is pretty, nay, VERY harsh, considering the strength of the Spurs in the same period.
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'The Crossover' - a Nets and Knicks podcast. http://phobos.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewPodcast?id=268817312
One hit wonder
No repeats, east was weak. he built a one and done not a real dynasty. Not a critizim just a fact. He couldn’t get the team over the hump after the fact. The year they one the lakers were also in shambles.
by shea23 on Jul 5, 2010 8:48 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
So anything less than multiple titles in one span (say, 4-5 years) constitutes a failure?
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more the fact they never were able to address their needs properly
after that one title. He was never able to find adequate bench/role players and anticipate holes and fill them.
I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson
Astute observation
Right on the money
I would hope you would support who we are. Not, who we are not. Coach Norman Dale "Hoosiers"
by dmitchell624 on Jul 5, 2010 10:36 AM EDT up reply actions
You've got to be kidding me...
Dumars has lost it. Traded Billups for Iverson, then blew that cap space on very mediocre role players in Gordon and Villanueva who he paid like stars.
by J-Kay on Jul 5, 2010 8:40 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Don't get me wrong...
He’s not without fault. The man has made a number of errors, but I’d argue that all of them were with the aim of keeping that team competitive. Has it worked so far with Gordon and Charlie-V? No.
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That would be great if he was the owner. Because their the ones that makes decions spending and making teams competive. Within reason all GM;s are trying to make or keep their team competitive that doesn’t excuse bad decisions. It doesn’t mean anything. If it was an owner it would mean he’s willing to spend, as a GM it just means the guy was doing his job and not very well.
I'm betting Prokhorov goes with someone young
by Net Income on Jul 5, 2010 8:59 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Hmmm...
Presti is 34 (or is he 35?). Either way, astonishingly young for a GM…
I still can’t really get my head around the fact that he was given the reigns at age 30.
Popeye Jones - scaring the children of New Jersey since 2010.
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by Rusty_b on Jul 5, 2010 9:04 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
i agree
but if Prokhorov went with someone young does that not deny a young talented Russian an opportunity to succeed? Net Income what is the latest on the Toronto Italian exec, has he been forgotten? My first choice is Sam Presti, not many Rhodes scholars become NBA execs. Also i read a piece on Presti and one of his former professors said Presti was the hardest working student he had ever, now that is what the Nets need. Hard work.
by Yi Of Little Faith on Jul 5, 2010 9:38 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
The Gherardini report was isolated.
Mitch Lawrence reported it, but none of the three key beat writers (D’Alessandro, Kerber, Iannazzone) backed it up.
NetsDaily.com
I hope the Toronto exec's been forgotten
I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson
by Gina on Jul 5, 2010 10:42 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
The Chuckster
Any word on whether he’d be given the chance to interview for the gig?
(This isn’t me saying I’d like us to hire him, by the way… I’m just wondering given the news of his front office aspirations)
Popeye Jones - scaring the children of New Jersey since 2010.
'The Crossover' - a Nets and Knicks podcast. http://phobos.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewPodcast?id=268817312
HELL NO JOE DUMARS! He drafted darko, traded Billups, gave long term deals to Hamilton and Prince, and WAYYYYY over paid for Gordon and Villanueva. Thorn hire me before hiring Joe Dumars!
LETS GO NETS!
by JustinNJ on Jul 5, 2010 9:18 AM EDT reply actions 2 recs
I cannot see OKC letting Presi walk.
Just can’t.
by No Sleep Till Brooklyn on Jul 5, 2010 9:32 AM EDT reply actions
we would have offer big bucks
"We’re the new Nets. We’re leaving the old behind and we’re in with the new. Hopefully LeBron is going to be a part of that."
-Coach Avery Johnson.
by Andy. on Jul 5, 2010 9:36 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I believe if we offer him a higher title (president) than whatever his current title (GM I believe) is, Thunder can’t do anything about it. I could be wrong on that
by J-Kay on Jul 5, 2010 9:36 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
if he is under contract
the Thunder could demand draft picks to let him out of his contract. Same goes with the other candidates.
Also, although the Thunder has a great fan base, their ticket prices are low and their local TV contract is small. It’s a small market. Although the Nets have the lowest local TV ratings, the Thunder have the smallest TV audience in the NBA…by far.
I would gladly give up draft picks if it meant getting the most competent candidate available. This position is too important to the future success of the team.
by Chris2 on Jul 5, 2010 10:35 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Money talks.
At least I hope it does.
NetsDaily.com
by NetsDaily on Jul 5, 2010 9:37 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Nets trade a future second round pick for Thunders GM Sam Presti
sounds weird but if thats what it takes…
"We’re the new Nets. We’re leaving the old behind and we’re in with the new. Hopefully LeBron is going to be a part of that."
-Coach Avery Johnson.
by Andy. on Jul 5, 2010 9:50 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I’d still do it if it took a lottery-protected first rounder.
Popeye Jones - scaring the children of New Jersey since 2010.
'The Crossover' - a Nets and Knicks podcast. http://phobos.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewPodcast?id=268817312
by Rusty_b on Jul 5, 2010 9:51 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Prokhy gives the Thunder a billion dollars
and a draft pick for Presti
I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson
wow Gina and you were worried about overpaying for David Lee ;-)
I would hope you would support who we are. Not, who we are not. Coach Norman Dale "Hoosiers"
by dmitchell624 on Jul 5, 2010 10:40 AM EDT up reply actions
I'm starving for some Nets news, any news.
Tell me they signed a new ball boy and I would be happy.
Give me something here!
by No Sleep Till Brooklyn on Jul 5, 2010 9:49 AM EDT reply actions
u serious need to watch some summer league
"We’re the new Nets. We’re leaving the old behind and we’re in with the new. Hopefully LeBron is going to be a part of that."
-Coach Avery Johnson.
*seriously
"We’re the new Nets. We’re leaving the old behind and we’re in with the new. Hopefully LeBron is going to be a part of that."
-Coach Avery Johnson.
Has anyone paid $15 for the summer league broadband package?
sucks….they were free before now we have to pay.
"We’re the new Nets. We’re leaving the old behind and we’re in with the new. Hopefully LeBron is going to be a part of that."
-Coach Avery Johnson.
i have directv
and nba is only offered with the most expensive package….SUCKS!!!!!
now i need to watch it online
"We’re the new Nets. We’re leaving the old behind and we’re in with the new. Hopefully LeBron is going to be a part of that."
-Coach Avery Johnson.
Yeah, I did. It’s pretty cool that the games are archived, too.
Popeye Jones - scaring the children of New Jersey since 2010.
'The Crossover' - a Nets and Knicks podcast. http://phobos.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewPodcast?id=268817312
yep
big plus for you…especially with the time difference
"We’re the new Nets. We’re leaving the old behind and we’re in with the new. Hopefully LeBron is going to be a part of that."
-Coach Avery Johnson.
Proky spent $3m to get rid of Yi for you!
and you grip about spending $15 to watch your favorite team?
j/k, i don’t think summer league games are worth $15 either.
by 3ptChucker on Jul 5, 2010 9:55 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
haha
nah im paying for it because i need to watch it…
hopefully quality is better then past yrs…cuz we all are paying for it.
"We’re the new Nets. We’re leaving the old behind and we’re in with the new. Hopefully LeBron is going to be a part of that."
-Coach Avery Johnson.
ooooooooooooo
the broadband page looks neat
"We’re the new Nets. We’re leaving the old behind and we’re in with the new. Hopefully LeBron is going to be a part of that."
-Coach Avery Johnson.
so no Dumars yet?
It’s good we’re only targeting one mediocre gm at a time.
I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson
by Gina on Jul 5, 2010 10:22 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
WHY
would the nets even consider somebody like bower?? after reading his track record, i can easily conclude this guy is awful. come on! i thought this was supposed to be the “new nets”
by slydaaave on Jul 5, 2010 10:26 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
the only explanation I've heard is maybe Avery likes him?
otherwise I don’t understand it either. Why not just bring Kiki back if we want a so-so gm at least he drafted well.
I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson
I’d honestly rather have Kiki than Bower. Kiki was actually pretty good; he has set us up well for this summer. He also drafted well.
by Chris2 on Jul 5, 2010 10:37 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
yeah
"No one stands on the top of the world. Not you, not me, not even gods. But the unbearable vacancy of the throne in the sky is over. From now on...I will be sitting on it."
by MrDollarBills on Jul 5, 2010 11:01 AM EDT up reply actions
i heard different...
that avery DOESN’T like bower. i agree tho, nets might be better off bringing kiki back.
by slydaaave on Jul 5, 2010 10:36 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
It's called a generic answer
Do you really think Proky is gonna give the inside scoop to a bus boy?! It’s called being nice instead of telling the guy to shove it.
by Timothy Boutillier on Jul 5, 2010 10:44 AM EDT reply actions
I'd rather
see Kerr get an interview than any of these two guys. Maybe that’ll happen? Thoughts?
by corky_romano4life on Jul 5, 2010 12:24 PM EDT reply actions
CHRIS BROUSARD
just tweeted that LBJ is intrigued by the Knicks signing Amar’e and next season getting Melo, Knicks gaining ground but not front runner….yet!
Anyone with a brain has to ask this question, how do the Knicks plan on getting Melo after 2 max guys this year? They will only have Curry’s contract coming off the books, which is $11.2M, and Melo’s starting Max salary would be around $16M, where do they pull the other $5M? I just don’t get how no one has shattered the logic in these ridiculous scenarios…
and how exactly do Carmelo and Lebron play together?
I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson
by Gina on Jul 5, 2010 12:37 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
maybe they're planning on sending Gallinari and Chandler too?
that would be about 16 million
I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson
by Gina on Jul 5, 2010 12:39 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
think about this for a second
How can the Knicks, with no assets, acquire James and Melo, and having those two plus Amare with max contracts?
Any time you read a Broussard tweet, take a step back and realize the absurdity of 90% of the things that crooked teeth having moron is saying out of the both sides of his mouth.
This stuff is ridiculous
"No one stands on the top of the world. Not you, not me, not even gods. But the unbearable vacancy of the throne in the sky is over. From now on...I will be sitting on it."
by MrDollarBills on Jul 5, 2010 1:04 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
they can do it
they’d just have to give away even more draft picks and what little young talent they have. Denver would also have to be really desperate to move him.
I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson
by Gina on Jul 5, 2010 1:12 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Remember, Broussard used to be a writer for THE DAILY NEWS. What do you expect him to say?
by lupojohn3 on Jul 5, 2010 1:48 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Broussard has done all in his power to shape public opinion....
…..and making it seem like we have no shot, or we’re not even worth talking about.
"No one stands on the top of the world. Not you, not me, not even gods. But the unbearable vacancy of the throne in the sky is over. From now on...I will be sitting on it."
by MrDollarBills on Jul 5, 2010 3:07 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
If there is one thing I would like to see Thorn do, its...
trade Hump NOW, if only because its clear we are going to go after one of the PF’s out there, but more important, it just shows the rest of the league that we’re NOW at a place to sign 2 MAX players and haven’t lost anyone that anyone would consider an asset for the franchise going forward. It would create a lot of buzz right in front of the signing date and show everyone we’re serious about doing what has to be done to get our 2 guys… Or maybe, its just that I want some action…. HA!
Well we might have to keep him to use in a sign and trade for someone like Bosh
though i doubt he’d have all that much value it’s better to keep him until we’re sure we don’t need him.
I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson
by Gina on Jul 5, 2010 1:16 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I know, but...
I want some movement, and truth be told, if I’m on the other side of a S&T, I would rather not take Hump, and take the full TE that comes with the trade, plus a few draft picks… Is Hump really going to get the other team excited? NO, so lets move him, get further under the cap and put some pressure on everyone else out there. We make this Trade we are about a million behind the Knicks, plus we still have, Lopez, Harris, TWill, CLee, Favors, James under contract and possibly the two kids we signed going into summer league… that is more than anyone else, and you can argue that of those guys, everyone of them has good to great talent…
I'd hold on to Hump's for now he's good for a 3rd string PF
and like the Gina said he could be valuable in a S&T or with draft picks (AK47?)
by universal on Jul 5, 2010 1:30 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Don't think
Sloan wants Hump back, remember he drafted him, and it was not a good experience for either…
To resign Boozer
I think Sloan wouldn’t mind finding a place on his bench for Hump and giving up a couple draft picks
by UltimateNetsFan on Jul 5, 2010 6:02 PM EDT up reply actions
I just want Andrei on this team anyway possible get it done
Brrook/Zoubek
?/Favors
AK47/Damion James
that makes a defensive juggernaut in the frontcourt regardless who they sign.
by universal on Jul 5, 2010 1:46 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Nets brass being quiet, while the Knicks are being loud,
has us all nervous.
by No Sleep Till Brooklyn on Jul 5, 2010 1:49 PM EDT reply actions
You’re really nervous? I’m not. The Knicks are conducting themselves like a bunch of clowns. You don’t think Bron sees this? He knows the way things are going.
by lupojohn3 on Jul 5, 2010 1:51 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
It's like the night before Christmas.
Are you getting a new Lexus? or a toy car Lexus?
by No Sleep Till Brooklyn on Jul 5, 2010 1:53 PM EDT up reply actions
this has me actually pretty calm about the situation
if the Nets were conducting themselves like our rivals, I’d be livid right now.
"No one stands on the top of the world. Not you, not me, not even gods. But the unbearable vacancy of the throne in the sky is over. From now on...I will be sitting on it."
by MrDollarBills on Jul 5, 2010 3:08 PM EDT up reply actions
Maverick Carter for GM?
Why not?
It will save Lebron millions, because he will no longer have to pay him.
by No Sleep Till Brooklyn on Jul 5, 2010 2:35 PM EDT reply actions
Dumars...
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
" I'm really excited to take the worst team in the league and turn it to be the best in the league." --Mikhail Prokhorov.
by Claud on Jul 5, 2010 2:45 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
I care more about the GM hire than the players...
I couldn’t be upset with Joe D. Bower would be a disaster. I still really like Presti and Marks.
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