Harris: "We're Good Enough to Make the Playoffs"
by Net Income on Jul 29, 2010 4:47 PM EDT
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Devin Harris spent a lot of the last week in Madison, WI, running one of his annual camps for the underprivileged.
He's talked a lot to reporters about the camps, but took some time to talk Nets basketball. Harris remains, in spite of everything, optimistic about next season.
"We're an improving team. Our main goal is to get back to the playoffs," Harris says. "We're a young team but I think we're still good enough to get there. We want to erase that terrible season we had last year. We look to continue to get better as we go along."
As Avery Johnson has said, it's about about erase and replace.
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I'm glad he thinks we are good enough to make the playoffs...
As I guess I would agree with a general statement like that. However, Mia, Chi, Orl, Bos, Atl, Mil, Cha, NY, and Cle are all “good enough to make the playoffs” – and thats 9 other teams.
HAHAHA
good one. Bucks will be good, Bogut will be back and remember they were on fire going into the playoffs only to lose him
by lemmetakeutodamovies on Jul 29, 2010 7:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Bogut is hardly to be the old form
His arm, elbow, and hand were severely injured.
by Jarkid Shen on Jul 30, 2010 12:33 AM EDT up reply actions
Redd's gonna be out till February
But they still have one of the best centers in Bogut and an Avery-like coach in Skiles
did anyone else
see that freak accident with bogut? Do you guys think he will be able to compete on that level right away? he broke his wrist, fractured hand and a dislocated elbow. that is a lot of healing and rehabin b4 competeing
One of the most gruesome injuries in recent NBA history
I still cant believe he will be able to play basketball again.
Consequences will never be the same.
by NetsMets4Life on Jul 30, 2010 5:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Nah, a lot of breaks sure but it's not something he won't be able to bounce back from
And big difference that it was his hand. Not feet. Injuries to feet are deadly but hand, not so much
Im sry but dont count out the Cavs
Like alot of people are counting them out im not i really think they can get to 41-45 wins
i also dont think we can beat the knicks
This is why were going to have to start off good and keep it that way
It should be fun
Watching NJ NY Cle Mil Cha fighting for the 6 7 and 8th spots
On Paper Wsh looks like a good team
I got a buddy of mine who thinks Det Ind Phil are going to be better then the nets if thats Happens thenets shouldnt ahve a basketball team to me Ind Det Phil Tor and Probably Wsh are going to be a bad team simple as that
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by Wall2KingJames on Jul 29, 2010 6:41 PM EDT up reply actions
The Cavs are tested, motivated, and have the perfect underdog coach. I count them for the 8th spot vs. the Heat.
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by kv on Jul 29, 2010 6:53 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I swear, if it happens, Lebron will wilt
in at least 2 away games from the pressure.
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by kv on Jul 29, 2010 8:39 PM EDT up reply actions
agreed
he will fold in those games.
He will experience something that will make Vince Carter’s trips up north seem tame in comparison.
I would not be shocked if objects are thrown at him.
"No one stands on the top of the world. Not you, not me, not even gods. But the unbearable vacancy of the throne in the sky is over. From now on...I will be sitting on it."
by MrDollarBills on Jul 30, 2010 12:04 PM EDT up reply actions
This was my original point....
I wasn’t saying the Nets have no chance at the playoffs because of the other 9 teams I listed, I only said just like the Nets, these other teams are “good enough to make the playoffs”. Truthfully, Philly, Detroit and Wash could be added into the mix as long shots (that are good enough on paper to make th playoffs or at least be in the hunt with the Nets for the 8th spot) in addition to the 9 other teams I first posted.
by BrooklynBridge on Jul 29, 2010 11:11 PM EDT up reply actions
What did I miss??? Charlotte???
Who is the Pg and the C? They just got rid of Felton and Chandlar as well. Are Stephen Jackson and Gerald Wallace THAT good? Tyrus Thomas, DJ Augastine and Diop? And they play in what could be the Best Division in the league Now. Miami, Orlando, Atlanta, Washington???
And they sill make the Playoffs????lol
The NETS are coming!
I've said this before and I've gotten flack for it.
I’d be surprised if the Nets don’t make the playoffs.
1000% on target
I will be 2
alot of talk that Outlaw sucks and Petro and Farmar
But my question is Doesnt Avery Johnson see something in them that we arent and everyone who likes the NBA, its like i dont think we signed Outlaw for nothing to me there are probably better SF out there before we signed him
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by Wall2KingJames on Jul 29, 2010 6:44 PM EDT up reply actions
flack
"...where they don't play with a shot clock." - C. Sager
by kv on Jul 29, 2010 6:44 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
News Cycle
in the past 24+ hours the Nets and CP3 rumors have cropped up all over the place, Jay-Z’s supposedly feuding with LBJ, Brook made the USA team, Derrik Favors found his dad, Proky said stop persecuting LeBron, and Devin says we should make the playoffs. Keeps us relevant – even on days when not much is happening.
Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
I don’t think it’s this year. Everything would have to go right for this team as it is now to get in the playoffs.
I say two more years and we will be ready for an 8 or 7 seed
by killa kadafi191 on Jul 29, 2010 5:01 PM EDT reply actions
listen you got a right for opinion
but this is the kind of stuff i dont like to read
I like to keep myself positive and say my team will always win even if they have the worst product on the field, i dont believe in that homer crap, ur a fan for a reason and you have a right to say your the best even if your not Whats wrong being a homer?
Guess what if the nets win 20gms and dont make the playoffs i will come out and say i was wrong and thats the things when you make a prediciton keep it and keep it until proven wrong and when your proven wrong just come out and say you were wrong theres nothing wrong withthat
Now on to this point
Who do you think can beat out teh Nets for the 8th seed?Det?Ind?Phil?Tor?Wsh?
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by Wall2KingJames on Jul 29, 2010 6:50 PM EDT up reply actions
You have the right to you opinion
as does everyone else.
Personally I don’t agree with a homer because you don’t look at things from a logic point of view. You are blinded by emotions.
I love this team. I love my family also but love doesn’t mean I block out things that are wrong or need to improve.
If I see something I don’t agree with this team I will speak on it. The same way I will speak on a family member that is doing wrong.
As I said before the Nets would need everything to go right.
I have to factor in a new coach trying to teach and install confidence into a losing organization.
I have to factor in young players (not veterans) developing who they will be in this NBA and their roles.
I have to factor in a starting point guard who has been struggling to stay healthy since he was with his previous team.
I have to factor in a Eastern Conference that has become stronger.
I have to factor in a team first year playing with each other.
I am not saying they will never make the playoffs but I see this as a two year project.
1Miami
2.Orlando
3 Bulls
4.Boston
5. Hawks
6 Bucks
7. Bobcats
8. Knicks, Cleveland or Washington
I think the Nets are doing the smart thing building a strong foundation so when the rain and storms come their house will still be standing.
by killa kadafi191 on Jul 29, 2010 7:32 PM EDT up reply actions
To me the Nets can be the Bucks of last season
Did you think the Bucks were going to do that good? I Didnt and everyone else didnt either
They hired a New coach and started off slow and then turned it around and Made the Playoffs for the first time in like 4-5 yrs if im mistaking
they go out and get some help and get Salmons, If were doing good and we need someone like a John Salmons, Will go out and get someone to help us out
Like dont get me wrong you could be right it might take 2 years to make the playoffs but we will never know until the season starts to see if this team is legit or a joke and ready for another top 3 pick
This is how i see it If the bucks can do it with a average-Good team why cant we
On paper we dont have sexy names but Why cant we Do good with this team
Harris/Farmar/Lee/Twill/Ross/Morrow/Outlaw/James/Favors/Humps/Lopez/Petro
Like i said there not sexy Players but guess what You never know what can Happen
I know baseball and basketball arent the same sport but look at the padres everyone expected 40 wins this season, and what are they doing 50+ wins and in 1st place with a Team who knowbody didnt even think had a chance
Like i said before the KEY is Avery Johnson
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by Wall2KingJames on Jul 29, 2010 7:45 PM EDT up reply actions
Forget to Menton about Wsh
you got Wsh as one of the Teams for the 8th seed
theres nothing wrong with that but what do they have that we dont Wall?
They got a nice team but i really cant see them wins more then 38 gms and ill be shocked if they are better then us
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by Wall2KingJames on Jul 29, 2010 7:48 PM EDT up reply actions
The Bucks
Were slept on, but had one of the best Centers in the league who stayed healthy and stepped it up.
They also drafted a franchise changing PG, Brandon Jennings. PGs can totally transform a team and that is what Jennings did.
Favors is not going to transform this team this year. Jennings had overseas pro game experience. Favors had 1 year of college bball.
by Jack Handy Jr on Jul 29, 2010 7:54 PM EDT up reply actions
+1 on Jennings. He changed the whole culture/performance of that team.
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by kv on Jul 29, 2010 8:41 PM EDT up reply actions
I agree
we are not ready yet.
As someone said the Bucks center stayed healthy for as long as he could plus this wasn’t the coach first year with the team.
by killa kadafi191 on Jul 29, 2010 8:45 PM EDT up reply actions
They have a shot
We don’t really know if the nets have a shot untill we see how this group comes together thats true and most of what you said is true. But is also equally true for the knicks. And come on Washington really? 0-0
As for Cleveland people can say what they like and act like they’re going to band together but I don’t see it in those guys I think they fall apart without Lebron James. I look at their lineup Mo Williams a decent starting point guard that can’t create his own shot. Antwan Jamison a veteran power forward thats past it and is a nice peace complementry piece on a contender (we already saw he can’t carry a team in washington.), Varejo overpaid but he is a nice roleplayer but nothing more. JJ Hickson has potential to be a good player. They don’t have an amazing bench. I don’t how that roster makes the playoffs.
Mo Williams a decent starting point guard that can’t create his own shot.
Which is why they added Ramon Sessions, who was a dynamic, much coveted uptempo FA PG until he was swallowed whole by the Wolves’ psuedo-Triangle.
Antwan Jamison a veteran power forward thats past it and is a nice peace complementry piece on a contender
He is not over the hill yet, and he and Hickson make a very good combo at PF.
Varejo overpaid but he is a nice roleplayer but nothing more.
No worse than Haslem, a decent energy power guy.
Plus they have significant room under the cap or in exemptions to make needed moves.
"...where they don't play with a shot clock." - C. Sager
Cavs are Horrible
Lebron made that team go, Ramon sessions isn’t carrying the Cavs, Antawn Jamison is finished, Hickson is average, Varejo only works on a team with a superstar, can’t shoot or create his own shot. I mean theres nothing on that team that tells me they can compete as mad and motivated as they can be, a team like the Nets will be just as, if not more motivated, with better talent and equal or better coach.
I just don't see enough talent to make the playoffs.
Jamison couldn’t carry Washington two years ago he can’t now. Mo Williams had underwhelmed in the playoffs two years runnig his game loses a lot without Lebron and those open shots. The rest of their are roleplayers and not ones that fit particularly well together without Lebron. They have some ok players and if they had even one guy to step up and win games fo them or lead they’d porbably make it. You can’t rule them out but I don’t see it.
CAN YOU GUYS PLEASE TELL ME WHAT AUTOMATICLY PUTS CHARLOTTE AT 7???
I don’t get how they are so much better than everyone else.
The NETS are coming!
"We want to erase that terrible season we had last year."
We had way more talent than a 12-win team last year. The problems were exacerbated by injuries, terrible terrible coaching, and a momentum of losing-begets-losing. I thought (early in the season) that the nets had enough to go .500 after the AS break. So I surely think we can get in the playoffs. The talent and the coaching are there. We aint the heat but “we’ve got enough to win” as LF always said when somebody offered him a chqance to use the excuse of not enough talent.
by PigDaddy3 on Jul 29, 2010 5:12 PM EDT reply actions 8 recs
Recs P-Daddy
you speak the truth sir
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by MrDollarBills on Jul 29, 2010 5:59 PM EDT up reply actions
This is the type of Talk i like to hear
Ive hear alot on this Board the nets are winning 20 gms because of outlaw signing
We’ll see guys we’ll see
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by Wall2KingJames on Jul 29, 2010 6:52 PM EDT up reply actions
Exactly what you want to hear. You do not want to have a guy on the squad who doesn't think we have a chance.
Good to hear.
Consequences will never be the same.
I Still Don't Think So
LOCKS
Miami
Orlando
Boston
Chicago
Milwaukee
Atlanta
MAYBE
Charlotte
NY
Detroit
Philly
NJ
NO
Indiana
Cleveland
Toronto
Washington
I think we have to beat out 3 out of those 4 maybe teams to get in.
Only way for us to make playoffs is if
either we trade for an All-Star
or, Favors plays well enough to be in the running for ROY
only takes one injury to shuffle that list
i think we can do it with some luck. We were awful last yr on paper but we also had rotten luck.
What if Amare plays only 32 games cause I ran up and poked him in the eye?
Since the face been revealed the game got real
by BL3ACH on Jul 29, 2010 6:30 PM EDT up reply actions 7 recs
I disagree that the Cavs have no chance at the playoffs. In his first year especially, Scott will have them playing at a very high level. They have a lot to play for.
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by kv on Jul 29, 2010 6:49 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
KV +1
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by Wall2KingJames on Jul 29, 2010 6:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Sorry hit post by accident.
I just don’t see them having a leader now or a chance.
M.Williams
Parker
Moon
Jamison
Verajeo
Yuck….
by Jack Handy Jr on Jul 29, 2010 7:00 PM EDT up reply actions
I think that Jamison/Hickson will play well at PF, plus all these guys have some serious experience. Varejao is a leader on the court, and Sessions is a pretty good back up point who languished with the Wolves who finally will be in the open court. They don’t really have to play out of this world to get the 8th seed. It is an experienced, defensive minded team that is quite put off by events this summer, and Scott is amazing at bringing the max out for short periods of time.
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by kv on Jul 29, 2010 8:49 PM EDT up reply actions
I'd put Jamison at the three, let Hickson start at the 4, Andy V at the 5.
They need to honestly not make the playoffs though. They need to get a top 10 pick
"No one stands on the top of the world. Not you, not me, not even gods. But the unbearable vacancy of the throne in the sky is over. From now on...I will be sitting on it."
by MrDollarBills on Jul 30, 2010 12:05 PM EDT up reply actions
Yes really
Why cant the cavs get the 8th seed on paper they dont have the sexy team but
with Scott there do you really think they’ll go from 61 to like 20 like comeon they have talented Players on the Team in my Opinion
And now with Lebron Gone there going to be Hungry to show everyone that they dont need Lebron to win and they it wasnt only lebron doing all the work
Will just have to wait and see i guess
another point with the cavs and nets situation
Did anyone expect a season like the bucks had NO so why cant the nets do what the Bucks did,
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by Wall2KingJames on Jul 29, 2010 7:02 PM EDT up reply actions
I would agree the cavs organization as a whole will be very motivated +23
Everyone from Gilbert on down has something to prove..
Since the face been revealed the game got real
Unless They Make Some Moves
Their is simply not enough talent on the roster to win.
Gone are
LBJ
Shaq
Igauskas
Delonte West
Mike Brown
I will root for and feel for them, but no I would say they do not crack 30 wins.
by Jack Handy Jr on Jul 29, 2010 7:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Delonte West was a problem for the team. Scott is an improvement over Brown. I can see what you are saying, but I believe in that team for the 8th spot. There is something more than paper when it comes to a season like the one they are going to have. And we will see if Gilbert is able to make some move, which surely he will be driven to do
The Cavs still have their bi-annual ($1.9 million) and mid-level exceptions ($5.7 million) to use in free agency. They still have a little over $8 million in cap space, or they can use their $16 million trade exception (in the deal with Miami) if they try to make a more substantial move.
Sessions was a coveted FA PG before he fell into Kahn PG hell:
Sessions played with Mo Williams in Milwaukee and the two became close friends. In his final nine games with the Bucks, Sessions averaged 12.3 points and 11.9 assist per game, including one game against Chicago where he went for 20 points and 24 assists.
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by kv on Jul 29, 2010 8:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Detroit? Philly?
Arent these the same teams people expected to go .500 and better and make the playoffs and what happened?
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by Wall2KingJames on Jul 29, 2010 6:55 PM EDT up reply actions
I think Toronto is the only team that has no chance
You can stick the rest of the NOs in the maybe group. I think the Nets may struggle early because of their lack of depth in the frontcourt, the inexperience of Favors and the time it will take to learn a new system, coaches, teammates and roles. After that we will be in the mix, but I also think there will be some rough patches because we are young.
When everything shakes out, we will be as good as Favors can be this year. If it takes him a half season or more to figure it out I don’t think we will make the playoffs.
I think They Did
The year before….
Both added lotto picks as well.
by Jack Handy Jr on Jul 29, 2010 7:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Milwaukee is not a lock
They are not. Period.
We can’t talk this year as last year’s.
And in fact, we can’t really predict who are going to be a lock easily.
If you go back 1 year ago, you would have not said Bucks would make the playoffs.
by Jarkid Shen on Jul 30, 2010 12:37 AM EDT up reply actions
Injuries happen but that team looks solid to me
They’re deep at the wing position but Gooden is their backup center(?)
You’re right they’re not a lock but there’s definitely talent on that team.
As far as the playoffs...
If Mike wants to make it for sure they need to get another power forward.
If Detroit will trade Chris Wilcox the Nets should look into that. He has similar stats to Humphries and he’s younger.
He’d be a good addition in my opinion.
A tough nosed big body perfect to platoon with Favors and Humps now and to come off the bench in the future.
Quinton Ross and the rights to Christian Drejer works. Or they could trade a 2nd round pick for him.
Hmmmm, who would I rather have running this team, DHarris or CPaul? Even the two pictures tell the story. CPaul exudes confidence, winner.
And then in 2 years....
When CP3 leaves to play with his buddies and we’re stuck with nothing but Okafor’s ugly contract clogging up all our cap space, who would you rather have running the team? The most confident looking guy who can sign for the vet’s minimum?
by JohnFromLongIsland on Jul 29, 2010 5:20 PM EDT up reply actions
Devin Harris??
He’s on our team, why would we wanna discuss him??? Rudy Fernandez is available, how about 650 more comments about trading?!
by JohnFromLongIsland on Jul 29, 2010 5:16 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Keep this team for now
We didn’t get the right free agent and there is no sense looking for one right now. Brook, CLee, Harris , T will & Humphrie have familiarity with one another already. James& Favor are very promising, at least Favor is a big body and can rebound and have some offense much better than Boone. Farmar, Petro, Outlaw and Morrow looks like the right choice of players that can give defense and offense. So ten dependable guys. It’s basketball , if they gel then we don’t need a star, it would be enough.
by JuliusIrving on Jul 29, 2010 5:57 PM EDT up reply actions
We didn’t get the free agents we needed BECAUSE of the coaching staff; we should have gone HARDER after Phil Jackson or Erik Spolestra or John Calipari or Tom Thibodeau.
by diehardNFFLbarnone on Jul 29, 2010 6:13 PM EDT up reply actions
Horrible Post....lol
Tom Thibodeau, Erik Spolstra, John “been there done that” Calipari??
This is a Joke right???
The NETS are coming!
wait, what???
ROFL!!!!
"No one stands on the top of the world. Not you, not me, not even gods. But the unbearable vacancy of the throne in the sky is over. From now on...I will be sitting on it."
by MrDollarBills on Jul 30, 2010 3:09 PM EDT up reply actions
You do realize that Thibodeau and Calipari are represented by the same people who represent LeBron James, Dwyane Wade, and Chris Bosh?
by diehardNFFLbarnone on Aug 2, 2010 10:08 PM EDT up reply actions
I think its a very very true possiblity
Okay guys look at it like this
Bucks last year were projected to be last in the NBA
We have a young team that can shoot
Avery will get Devin back to All Star Level
He will develop Farmar to be a solid piece
Brook will become an all star.
Avery can develop young guys and make them into all stars
SAm Mitchell can make big men into al stars
Toronto, Cleveland , and Bobcats wont make the playoffs so that gives us hope.
I think we could do it !
The points you just listed
means everything would have to go perfect and I doubt that happens.
Devin would have to be healthy and as you said Brook would have to put up all star numbers.
A young team that needs to develop team chemistry, confidence and many other things. Which is easy to say during the off season.
I doubt that the Bobcats miss the playoffs and I see the Knicks getting the eighth seed.
I think playoffs will be in our future but not next season. Unless everything is perfect
by killa kadafi191 on Jul 29, 2010 5:55 PM EDT up reply actions
about team chemistry
perhaps i’m naive – having to work year-round – but why the hell isn’t this team together right now developing chemistry? Yeah, they’re working out individually, training here and there, running camps for kids, but why aren’t they together running drills, working hard, getting used to each other, the coaches and their expectations, getting in shape, so it doesn’t take a month or two for them to begin playing like a team once the calendar flips to Oct. I mean seriously now.
because the veterans don't care
You think Travis Outlaw appreciates his overpaid contract enough to get himself here now to train with the team?
Farmar could hardly drag his butt here for the introductory conference.
Brook is busy keeping the bench warm for Team USA starters
Devin is not team leader material. Not enough of a leader to drag his teammates here to train.
The only ones here in NJ training center is the rookies.
Somebody needs to make the calls
Usually the captain.
Who’s the captain by the way?
And Devin is having basketball clinic at home right now.
And the CBA prohibits teams from requiring players to come early until the official training camp starts.
And even if they volunteer, they have to do it on their own. Coaches can’t be involved.
"Beat the Heat!"
Devin is not leader material
I remember Kidd in his 1st summer here took the initiative to get guys together (KMart and Jefferson and rookies)
VC would also get guys together in the summer at his home in Orlando.
I’m sick of looking at Devin’s goofy overbite. Devin is a glorified role player that needs the ball in his hands.
Exactly.
The only hold over from last year is Devin, TWill, Brook, and the Humph.
Who’s gonna lead?
The newcomers and rookies definitely definitely won’t make the call.
The most logical is Devin and Brook. But looks like they don’t have the initiative to do it. Both are atill busy.
The only one left is Terence. Hhhhmmmm ????
"Beat the Heat!"
I'll say Avery is the Leader
Devin is workin on his game and So is Favors….can’t force guys to work out
-1 The Bobcats got worst in the offseason.
I’m Not a Felton fan at all but fact remains he put up ok numbers and started. Now they go to 2nd year man Augastine and Shaun Livingston at point. Erik Dampier, Diop and Nazr Mohhomed at C? And Tyrus thomas at PF in the same division as miami, orlando, Atlanta and Washington (who is better than Charlotte) I doubt they get 4 wins in their own division. How can you do that and make the playoffs?
The NETS are coming!
YES WE CAN
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Would a Russian political figure have to sell his business interests before taking office?
If true, then I would say Nyet to politics.
Don't sleep on the Wiz
if Wall is healthy, they will surprise a lot of people. McGee, Blatche, Arenas, Hinrich and Wall. Don’t be shocked if they’re in the running for a low playoff seed.
Im very happy with the team we have now…obviously its not good enough to compete against the big dogs but im a satisfied fan this offseason…
Plus nets arent done…proky has made it clear that he expects this team to be one of the best. I believe….
"I want to win, I want the team to win and I'm in complete control."
-Coach Avery Johnson.
I agree Andy
We may not have the big name players on our team, but if the players we have give their all we will be competitive and we will win games. I look for us to turn a few heads this season and for once (in a long while) to be seen in a positive way. “Go Nets!”
We will go as far as Favors takes us
James could make a difference but at best it won’t be much, imo. I’m hoping for a 10-20 start and a 32-20 finish for a playoff spot.
We'll go as far as
the whole team effort takes us. Everybody will be accountable! Everybody!
by Belarus4life on Jul 29, 2010 6:56 PM EDT up reply actions
I'll give this team about a 3% chance of making the playoffs
by GrandKenyon6 on Jul 29, 2010 7:05 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
I would say about 27%
But like someone said, all it takes is an injury to a key player and you drop from a 7th seed to out.
Since the face been revealed the game got real
Louis Almundson
If you sign someone like Almundson tough and rebounds well and has something to prove after the Suns didn’t even consider resigning him we can make the playoffs.
ALMUNDSON!!!
i’d love to sign this guy. he’d probably be cheap also… lets say 15 mill over 3 years
14:48 minutes, he averaged 55.1 FG%, 4.7 points, 4.4 rebounds, 0.9 blocks.
in 30 minutes he’d probably average close to a double double and almost 2 blocks. 10-10-2 blocks… just as good as okafor would be. except almundson can run and gets hustles
You can't just double someone's minutes and then assume their stats would follow.
Amundson is an energy guy, nothing more. He was and always will be coming off the bench for that spark plug that motivates everyone and works hard. He wouldn’t be able to do as well when playing for a long time.
~AC24
I Like Anthony Tolliver better...
Would give us some more perimeter shooting with the hustle and rebounding. He put up better numbers than Yi did and is only 25. STILL NOT SIGNED.
6’9 240 12ppg 7rpg 2apg 43% FG 33% 3pt Probably get him for peanuts 2 years 5 mil or 3 for 8.
Almudson at this point would be my 2nd choice and Singleton my 3rd choice.
But I feel like we need to lock one up so we can STOP trying to talk up Troy Murphy.
The NETS are coming!
THIS
"No one stands on the top of the world. Not you, not me, not even gods. But the unbearable vacancy of the throne in the sky is over. From now on...I will be sitting on it."
by MrDollarBills on Jul 30, 2010 3:10 PM EDT up reply actions
playoffs?
I could hear jim mora in the background. The objective is to make the playoffs but realistically we are still in rebuilding mode unless we pull off a major trade(s). We have a better shot at winning the draft lottery which isn’t necessarily.a bad thing… We still need a few more chips (or a couple of years)- we’re just not there yet.
by Drazen Petrovic on Jul 29, 2010 7:15 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
I agree as well.
We still don’t have a NBA quality starting Power Forward, yet people here think we may make the playoffs? Thats just not being realistic. Even if Favors turns into a stud (and its a big IF), it will take some time.
Plus, there are too many good teams in the East.
Agreed, they are 1-2 Bigs away from contending for playoffs. With the present team, however, they are also 1-2 injuries or disappointments from competing for the cellar.
The important point is that Nets Do have Cap Space and draft picks to get those 1-2 Bigs.
They just have to SLAP THEMSELVES IN THE FACE and stop convincing themselves that they are better off holding onto to that Cap Space for the Tiny chance that it would result in some superstar coming to Nets in a great deal at the trade deadline.
Nets should use that Cap Space to get what they need, preferably for an expiring contract who wouldn’t require giving up any talent. Troy Murphy has been a starting PF for past 6 years and he is 6’11" and can shoot 3’s and is only 30 years old and there is reason to believe Indiana will be looking to clear cap space. Noone has yet to name a better expiring, who might be available.
Can anyone name a team that made the playoffs without a prominent player who is at least 30 years old, much less with no one over 25 years of age (except for 27 year old Harris)?
Can anyone name a team that made the playoffs without a prominent player who is at least 30 years old
It technically was the Thunder last year, but barely:
PG: Russell Westbrook / Shaun Livingston / Kevin Ollie
SG: Thabo Sefolosha / James Harden / Kyle Weaver
SF: Kevin Durant / Shaun Livingston
PF: Jeff Green / Etan Thomas / D.J. White / Serge Ibaka
C: Nick Collison / Nenad Krstic / B.J. Mullens
Collison I believe started the season at 29. But heaven knows we don’t have a Westbrook, let alone a Duran.
"...where they don't play with a shot clock." - C. Sager
by kv on Jul 29, 2010 9:55 PM EDT up reply actions
you are acting desperate
stop. There is no need to run around and blow that cap room. Screw Murphy, and every other player making a stupid amount of money that you want to bring in here.
as of now, we still would be a competitive team. i’m not concerned with making the playoffs. if we do, fine, that gives us massive positive press. If we don’t, we can potentially land another top 5-10 pick.
"No one stands on the top of the world. Not you, not me, not even gods. But the unbearable vacancy of the throne in the sky is over. From now on...I will be sitting on it."
by MrDollarBills on Jul 30, 2010 12:08 PM EDT up reply actions
+10000000000000000
I’m soooooooo tired of the Murphy fan. Like Murphy leads his team to the Playoffs. And the balance is finding a starter who can start and allow Favors minutes to grow. Murphy will only allow Favors 10-12 minutes a game. Not even that if you factor in Humph.
This Is NOT FOOTBALL!!! NBA Rosters aren’t large enough to stash guys away on the bench for years. We don’t have that “Clipboard Qb luxury”. I Say play the Kid. Let him run around and jump and dunk. I would be happy with 9ppg and 7rpg as long as he defends.
For some reason I don’t know what it is I just don’t like Indiana Players…lol. They need to play somewhere else before I want to see them in Nets Jerseys.
We simply just need another body for the rotation. I wouldn’t be mad if we started Humph as long as Avery and Co can convince him that he isn’t Dirk.
The NETS are coming!
or someone that is allowed to shoot, period
the only time the hump should be allowed to shoot is when he’s got a putback
"No one stands on the top of the world. Not you, not me, not even gods. But the unbearable vacancy of the throne in the sky is over. From now on...I will be sitting on it."
by MrDollarBills on Jul 30, 2010 3:11 PM EDT up reply actions
"A well-coached group of role players working as a TEAM
will have more chance in making the playoff, than a disorganized team with one or more stars." – faNETicS
"Beat the Heat!"
by faNETicS on Jul 29, 2010 7:24 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
What I said was explicit enough.
And I’m just trying to give another reason why we can make the playoffs.
And I’m just freakin’ bored. LOL
"Beat the Heat!"
That is reason for Nets to get at least 25 wins, with Avery pushing everyone and preventing some of the 4th quarter failures.
Still, Avery doesn’t have enough Bigs, even if Lopez, Petro, Hump and Favors were healthy 80 games out of the season.
Petro would have to play much more consistently that in the past and for longer minutes and Hump would have to play like the better version we saw last year. I wouldn’t count on Zoubec to guard in the NBA and hopefully Nets will get a Veteran who is better, by the start of the season (maybe even Boone). I doubt if Avery will let Favors play more that 18-20 mpg for the first 1/2 of season, based on his remarks.
So why can’t everything go perfect? I keep hearing well everything would have to go perfect and I don’t see this and that happening and so on. I think a lot of things will go our way durring the season (since nothing went right in the offseason)
Harris- scorer/defender allstar again?
Morrow- lights out shooter could be an allstar In my opinion
Outlaw- scorer
favors- defensive stud mabey ROY?
Lopez- low post scorer and def allstar
Harris – slightly above average point guard when not jacking up 3’s
Morrow – role player with a limited game and some liabilities
Outlaw – glorified bench player
Favors – hard work to get ROTY , I don’t think hard work is in his vocabulary
Lopez – suffering from monobrontosauras
by strange-brew on Jul 29, 2010 9:27 PM EDT up reply actions
the odds are against them
Devin hasn’t had a healthy season since his days in dallas. He is proven to be injury prone. So it’s not a matter of if but when.
Also the chances of him becoming an all star is very slim.
With the rise of Derrick Rose and Rondo will likely leave him out. He will not be voted in by the fans. Plus you have other guards who will likely put up better numbers on winning teams.
Morrow an all star? No.
Outlaw is a bench player given a role too big for him.
Favors rookie of the year? very unlikely they don’t have enough faith for him to start yet.
Lopez maybe an all star but as last year showed he would have to win.
Plus with Amare now in the East that could hurt his chances.
by killa kadafi191 on Jul 29, 2010 8:53 PM EDT reply actions
Playoff Possibilities, Getting Wins, and Small Windows for Error
The truth is that most NBA games come down to the 4th quarter, especially execution on offense and getting stops on defense. Much of this has to do with player fatigue by this juncture of the game in relation to defense and coaching in relation to offense. Last year we were routinely exhausted by the second half of games because our bench gave us nothing. In addition, we clearly were the most poorly coached team in the league for the majority of the season. While I would not guarantee playoffs by any means, we can certainly accomplish this task with a bench that allows our starters ample rest to prepare to get stops durin the crunch time of games, coaching that will enable better execution on offense during these crucial moments of games. These things can make a major difference. Think about it, most NBA games finish with a differential of 10 points or less….that is really a small margin(4 or 5 possessions) over the course of a game. A few stops here and a few baskets on the offensive end could make a dramatic difference.
With this said, are the playoffs a possibility? Certainly. An expectation? I woudn’t go that far.
Behind the scenes, I believe Avery will be after Billy King to improve the BIG Situation before the start of pre-season.
Avery can’t admit to it publicly but he has made remarks earlier that that they aren’t done. Avery knows he doesn’t have a playoff team yet. Unfortunately, this silly “Big Star” talk has delayed matters.
Do they get an expiring and also maybe a Vet Min type player or do they get someone on a reasonable Rookie contract with upside? Would they be willing to give up a 1st round pick to help get a playoff caliber team, or just 2nd round picks? Those 2nd round picks are going to have to be traded at some point, because the Nets are already too young as is.
Nets fans should be allowed to have this as a running topic until a deal is made.
The full list of choices can be obtained below:
With Avery as Coach...
You won’t see Brook or Devin (Or any player in that case) sitting on the bench with that lost , confused and defeated look on their faces……
Oh Really!
Not only won’t the Nets be able to relax on the bench, they will have to be sure to wear their Protection:
Omg I couldn't stop laughing
look how dampier hides behind Howard like he knew what was comin
Lmao this is going to be
A interesting year
Even Dell Harris looked scared.....
Keith Van Choke looked confused as usual…….Obviously,Avery is very serious about winning…..
I see the Nets sitting right on the realm of the 8th spot. Avery is a huge addition, along with his winning ways. He’ll be able to gel with Harris again immediately. It might take Lopez and Avery a little bit longer to get acquainted with one another, and to see precisely what Avery wants out of him. It will unquestionably take much longer for Favors to develop into his own. I also see TWilliams improving dramatically this year. I think Avery will bring the best out of him. I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again: I think we’re at least two big players away from being a contender in the East. And thats neglecting the fact that Miami is an absolute behemoth who will step on the gas at the end of the season.
"We aim above the mark to hit the mark." -- Ralph Waldo Emerson
"We're looking at hiring the Red Army choir to perform at half-time along with Russia's top dancing bear collective." -Mikhail Prokhorov
"Don't worry about my cap" - Lou Lamoriello
agreed
“Two big players” as in two frontcourt players no?
As long as the team is in most games and has a chance for the playoffs I’ll be happy.
The team needs depth up front to make noise in the future.
If favors could contribute as soon as possible,
we will be a very scary team.
A front court with Lopez and Favors, we have a good post player and a crazy athletic player. We already have a best core in front line.
Harris Farmar T-Will James Outlaw Morrow
all can run and gun.
Man ppl are putting to much on this kid morrow
Some on on the blog said all-star potential. That’s crazy
This is the problem with Nets Fans
We always think the other side is better. We can never look at our team and see the best. We have been beat down by our losses and being second to third class bball citizens. Knick fans are the complete opposite. They got one player. One player and they think they are locks for the playoffs. We got 2 new starters. Emptied the trash and lost nothing. We got a great coach, great owner, and our coaching staff is remarkable. We have 3 good coaches on the bench.
Yet we can’t imagine fighting for the playoffs but many can imagine the Knicks will. Grab your sack and don’t be afraid to route for your Nets!!!! Get down or Lay down!!!!!
Technically yes...
there will be 2 new starters. But, we still don’t know who that starter will be.
that's the spirit bro
"No one stands on the top of the world. Not you, not me, not even gods. But the unbearable vacancy of the throne in the sky is over. From now on...I will be sitting on it."
by MrDollarBills on Jul 30, 2010 12:10 PM EDT up reply actions
Let's not forget
While that Mavs team was more talented, Avery is known for getting guys to do what people think “not possible.” That Mavs team was in the bottom 5 in defense the year before. The year he took over, they were top 10 (maybe top 5, can’t remember)
I think he’s going to get these guys to perform.
+100
I’m Excited to see which guys flourish under Avery. People always seem to flourish and I think at least 3 guys go to Another Level. I’m hoping Lopez, Favors and Morrow. I look for Outlaw, T-Will and Harris to be solid or get better.
The NETS are coming!
Devin Harris will average 18-19ppg 8apg
book it
"No one stands on the top of the world. Not you, not me, not even gods. But the unbearable vacancy of the throne in the sky is over. From now on...I will be sitting on it."
Unfortunately you can also book that he will display
a “lack of leadership, poor shot selection, and…[an] outright refusal to play defense”
"...where they don't play with a shot clock." - C. Sager
Yi should be glad that he got traded.....
I think that Avery would have made him cry or run to the locker room…..
The Nets......
will be the Team to Beat this year…..A team that no one wants to play against….Avery will have them playing every game like it is Game 7 of the championship…….
I doubt that
he couldn’t get the Mavs to play like that in a must win situation hahahahaha sorry I had to go there
by killa kadafi191 on Jul 31, 2010 12:38 PM EDT up reply actions
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