Is Jay-Z Upset with LeBron? Mikhail?
by Net Income on Jul 28, 2010 7:00 AM EDT
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PrintPicking up on internet rumors that Jay-Z's friendship with LeBron James is in tatters, the Daily News suggests that indeed the rap mogul is upset with "the King", but not because he didn't sign with the Nets. No, reports the News, Jay-Z realized James wouldn't want to play in Newark. He just wanted to be "consulted". Jay-Z's real animus, says the News quoting an "NBA insider", should be with Mikhail Prokhorov who the insider believes "overpromoted and overmarketed" the team's prospects then "couldn't deliver".
It does appear the Nets relationship with the minority investor Jay-Z is fine. Last week, Brett Yormark told Forbes.com that the Nets are marketing 11 premium suites at Barclays Center as "The Jay-Z Suites".
- Hip-hop mogul Jay-Z upset that newly minted Miami Heat player LeBron James didn't consult him - Frank DiGiacomo - New York Daily News
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That's what I mean when I say if you're gonna market something, you better be able to deliver
Reputations are made on results, not statements
it's ok to make a move at marketing something
“over promotion and over marketing” is the problem.
But don’t put the full blame on the marketer. The other responsibility lies on the customer.
Because you should have the prudence, or make your due diligence, to whether believe what’s being marketed on to you.
"Beat the Heat!"
this is what I'm talking about
This is the only reason people see the Nets off season as a failure . There too much talking and no backing it up . That’s it .
by killa kadafi191 on Jul 28, 2010 7:41 AM EDT reply actions
Proky?
From his interviews, he just voiced out his sincere intention on signing up LBJ. Just like what any team official would say. I could say the same for Thorn.
It’s the media and hoops fans who made the “too much talking” that created the hype.
Not trying to defend Proky here, trust me.
"Beat the Heat!"
Yup, 10 weeks of abject failure
Prokhorov takes over on May 12, travels to New York May 18 for press conference.
Johnson is hired on June 9
Favors and James drafted on June 25 (Nets give up chance at Tibor Pleiss in trading for James).
Nets trade CDR to Bucks for a pick to get enough cap space for two max free agents on June 28.
Nets trade Yi and $3 million in Prokhorov’s cash to Wizards for Quinton Ross to further get under the cap.
Zoubek and Uzoh signed to partially guaranteed deals on July 1, first time in three years the Nets have signed any free agent to a partially guaranteed deal.
Nets make pitch to LeBron, DWade and Bosh on July 1, flying around the country to do so.
Nets have deal in place to trade Humphries, picks and more cash to get under cap.
Between July 8 and July 11, Nets sign Outlaw, Petro, Morrow and Farmar for a grand total of $18 million and still have $15 million under the cap. Other than Outlaw’s MLE-like contract, none of the other three are signed for more than $4 million or more than three years.
Nets hire Bill King on July 14. Thorn departs next day.
Nets sign Favors and James on July 15 to contracts totaling less than $6 million.
Nets announce on July 20 the hiring of two former NBA head coaches, Mitchell and Krystkowiak, as well as the retention of two former Frank assistants, Loyer and Barrise, giving the Nets five assistants for the first time in a year.
Nets promote Bobby Marks to assistant general manager on July 26.
Post reports on July 28 the Nets will hire Bob Ferry, lead scout of the Cavaliers (and Danny’s father) as advance scout, filling that position.
I don’t know how in God’s name this franchise will ever recover from these HORRIBLE decisions.
by Net Income on Jul 28, 2010 12:53 PM EDT up reply actions 4 recs
Favors and James drafted on June 25 (Nets give up chance at Tibor Pleiss in trading for James). – FAIL (why not Whiteside)
Nets trade CDR to Bucks for a pick to get enough cap space for two max free agents on June 28.
Nets trade Yi and $3 million in Prokhorov’s cash to Wizards for Quinton Ross to further get under the cap. – Double FAIL
Nets make pitch to LeBron, DWade and Bosh on July 1, flying around the country to do so. – BIG TIME FAIL
Nets have deal in place to trade Humphries, picks and more cash to get under cap. – ehh, FAIL
TIME-OUT
If the Nets traded Humph they would have been 8M short of what it took to get the big 3 for the Heat. So if they planned to play together all along, how come out mr. Insider Jay didnt know, would it really have been so hard to clear out that extra 8M, i’m sure we’d find some team to take Brook and Devin package in a salary dump, ANYWAY…
Nets hire Bill King on July 14. Thorn departs next day. – 1 final (for now) FAIL
drafting Damion James is a "FAIL"
the only thing fail here is this attempt at a rebuttal.
"No one stands on the top of the world. Not you, not me, not even gods. But the unbearable vacancy of the throne in the sky is over. From now on...I will be sitting on it."
by MrDollarBills on Jul 28, 2010 4:07 PM EDT up reply actions
extraordinarily lame post.
James was one of the best value picks in the draft by early indications, Favors showing signs of what he could become…… “BIG TIME FAIL” for not getting LeBron, Wade or Bosh? puhleazze… there’s 29 other teams that didn’t get them either. The rest of the post was trash as well.
thumbs way down.
rec'd
get real folks.
"No one stands on the top of the world. Not you, not me, not even gods. But the unbearable vacancy of the throne in the sky is over. From now on...I will be sitting on it."
by MrDollarBills on Jul 28, 2010 4:06 PM EDT up reply actions
Its was something about his lyrics is what I heard.
“Used to be a king” people think this is about Lebron.
Since the face been revealed the game got real
Eh
If the Trio made up their mind to play together and put that above all else, you can’t blame anyone. If he’s upset that we didn’t shell out top contracts for Boozer, Amar’e, or David Lee…then he should stick to being a minority owner.
What's the alternative?
Do we just not even make an attempt? Do we run around publicly saying that we’re not a good team? If your expectation is to treat sell ourselves as a mediocre franchise still affected by the previous ownership group, I don’t know what to tell you.
Or maybe its another way to keep the NETS in the news
-Say man when I was growing up we wanted a Jacuzzi, we had to fart in the tub.
Very good point that makes sense also.
Thoughtout and logical…. LOL see what I did there.
Since the face been revealed the game got real
Exactly
which makes me believe this story is complete BS
Wasn’t mediatakeout.com the same website that reported RJ being gay? Or is the jury still out on that one….not that there is anything wrong with that
-Say man when I was growing up we wanted a Jacuzzi, we had to fart in the tub.
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Can’t speculate who’s mad at who and why. I only know I’m mad at the world.
Stop encouraging more of THIS, THAT, MEH, MOO or other attempts to defame the English language.
Haven’t you read NetsDaily’s warning about proper English (LOL)?
^dis
"No one stands on the top of the world. Not you, not me, not even gods. But the unbearable vacancy of the throne in the sky is over. From now on...I will be sitting on it."
by MrDollarBills on Jul 28, 2010 4:08 PM EDT up reply actions
the Nets were on a quest to obtain the golden fleece
But in the end along with the other franchises; we got “fleeced!”
Well other teams came away with some of the consolation prizes
and none of them put up gigantic billboards
I understand where you are coming from
The mural was big and brash but it was a way of drawing attention the the Nets in a positive way. It got every ones attention letting them know in advance that we are here to compete and to win.
they're trying to sell tickets and CDs
and they’re targetting New Yorkers.
They timed it during the start of free agency, as they know there’s a lot of speculators in NY.
They sold some, so it’s partially a success.
"Beat the Heat!"
IMO
If he and Lebron were true friends, Lebron should have let him know to look in another direction.
Unfortunately, LBJ has other priorities than FRIENDSHIP
I’ve been saying this since “the leak”, I’m surprised that the Nets were not sure where they stand regarding the kid’s decision. Because if they knew that the Nets don’t have a chance, we should have moved on early and looked for other FAs.
I’m sure if Jay-Z was informed of what “the decision” would be, he would have relayed it immediately to the team.
I’m sure that Jay-Z would have respected where the kid will end up, but at least he’ll be informed or “consulted”.
Yeah, this kid LeBron really messed this up.
"Beat the Heat!"
this is my thinking as well
so it’s either
a)the media reports of their friendship were overblown
or
b)Lebron never considered Jay Z his friend in the first place
could be a bit of both. But either way, with the way the situation went down as far as the Nets are concerned, Lebron spit in Jay’s face if he had no knowledge of what was going to happen. This was being planned 2 years in advance.
"No one stands on the top of the world. Not you, not me, not even gods. But the unbearable vacancy of the throne in the sky is over. From now on...I will be sitting on it."
by MrDollarBills on Jul 28, 2010 4:50 PM EDT up reply actions
They are basing this on mediatakeout
Yes, Jay-Z didn’t deliver, but can’t really take mediatakeout seriously. have you seen this site?
this is all just gossip
The only thing this article says is that Jay-Z seemed ticked off that LeBron didn’t pick up his phone calls.., That was a common theme here on NetsDaily as many were saying.. At least Jay would get a call or some heads up if Lebron didn’t consider the Nets a viable option..
I don’t think Proky or others can be mad at Jay-Z for that and they wouldn’t consider him “dead weight” considering the appeal Jay has in Brooklyn and how having him along for the move to Brooklyn will be a big boost..
There’s nothing here saying that Jay-Z was mad at Proky either. So, really this is on LeBron thinking he is too good to pick up the phone from someone people were saying was one of the people he looked up to.. He has gotten really big for his breaches, but its no good burning bridges on the way to the top…
built too many walls too
he will eventually find out he’ll end up in a corner with no where else to run to.
"Beat the Heat!"
Dailynews hates our Nets!!!!
Why listen to them? They are a tabloid paper.
by Rawdawg05 on Jul 28, 2010 10:11 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
welcome to New York rawdawg
you want the Nets in Brooklyn? You will get plenty of ragging on your team in the Post and the News if that happens.
NI, why do you do this to the LeBronHeads?
It’s like ripping off a scab, they will have to relive their pain…again.
Well, if you’re still out there suffering, I again, offer an antidote:
http://www.xtranormal.com/watch/6771467/
This is TMZ, Perez Hilton, Mario Lopez narrated crap.
…and I like it.
According to Mediatakeout’s insider, James’ silent treatment made Jay-Z look bad with Nets’ management. While LeBron was making his decision, “he didn’t even take [Jay-Z’s] calls. It made [Jay-Z] look like he couldn’t deliver to the Nets management,” the website’s source says. If Jay-Z could have landed a star player, “he could have been seen as a legitimate asset to the team,” the source said. “Now they see him as just dead weight.”
This seems very creditable, or at least probable. If Lebron froze Jay-Z out, hilarious. Quite different than the Blueprint image given by and to the media.
"...where they don't play with a shot clock." - C. Sager
I can't take this seriously
if they’re using MediaTakeout as a reference.
"I want to win now, not 3 years from now. That's my stance." - Kevin Burkhardt
exactly
Mediatakeout is notorious for publishing false stories or making accusations that are unfounded or untrue. TMZ has more credibility than they do.
We’re above that crap on here, sorry.
"No one stands on the top of the world. Not you, not me, not even gods. But the unbearable vacancy of the throne in the sky is over. From now on...I will be sitting on it."
by MrDollarBills on Jul 28, 2010 4:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Aw, shucks Proky & Mr. Cartah tried, wait what about plan L ? Lindsay Lohan is getting out at the end of the week and goes into re-hab and what better way to snag PR than to take the train wreck and turn her into an honorary Net, she can give E and other tabloid
shows updates like Proky showing her how to do a lay up and she can help around the Onexim office in the Seagrams building and Mike and Linds can jet ski together! :-)
who needs the King?
Enough with the Jay-Z Suites Net Income!!
You have said that 7 times in 2 days – nobody cares!!!! Common, everyday fans don’t care about luxury suites at NBA arenas named after some pompous overrated entertainer that decided to invest in the team.
I can't see how much different the Nets would have played the market if they knew they were out on LeBron
other than the fact that Yi would still be a Net. Maybe they throw an offer to T. Thomas earlier in the process?
What does it say that LeBron listens to Maverick Carter over Jay-Z?
As for Jay-Z
As much as I think he is one of the most overrated rappers of all-time, since the art form really died before he even hit the scene, even I realize he has an image to protect.
So it would make sense if he was fed up with these guys, even Prokhorov as putting up an obnoxious billboard in the heart of Manhattan with his image and then completely failing to deliver makes him look like a fool. And this is just a small example of what I am referring to but Jay-Z ultimately does not want to be associated with a loser (like the Nets continue to be) as it hurts his brand too.
Jay Z, overrated?
I fail to think of another rapper that has been invited to the White House several times, aside from Will Smith, and he’s known more for his acting and media production.
"No one stands on the top of the world. Not you, not me, not even gods. But the unbearable vacancy of the throne in the sky is over. From now on...I will be sitting on it."
by MrDollarBills on Jul 28, 2010 4:28 PM EDT up reply actions
If the Nets...
If the Nets overmarketed what did the Knicks do?
You had people guaranteeing that the Knicks sign Lebron AND Bosh for YEARS. Come on New York Daily News you’re better than that…
(Actually on second thought you’re not, carry on)
Well they still came away with a big name this summer
regardless if it was a good move or not, they still produced something
Who cares?
Doesn’t jay-z own like literally less than .02% of the team now? Even under ratner he owned less than 1%. If he’s mad, let him be. If he’s not mad, move on regardless. It doesn’t really matter much.
by TheMann2 on Jul 28, 2010 12:37 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
This is something that can't be seen as an issue, could be a maker or a breaker. Let it go.
Hova and the Nets need to shake this.
Consequences will never be the same.
A High Profile person outside of sports need to be around
LA Lakers- Jack (L.A—Hollywood)
Nets- Jay-Z (NYC Brooklyn—He runs Brooklyn)
Once again Mikhail and Thorn deserve some blame..
because Proky failed to personally interview any of the other free agents, who could be a player with box-office appeal (as the article says). David Lee / Boozer were those players and Lee in particular would have helped draw Knicks fans and hurt the Knicks. Mikhail even predicted one of them would sign with the Nets (if LeBron didn’t sign), as did experts following the situation like David Aldridge.
Both Boozer and Lee signed for around what was expected, yet they would be worth even more for the Nets – especially Lee.
Bottom line is Mikhail overestimated his appeal – that at least shouldn’t be denied. Lee on the other hand needed to feel wanted and Warriors showed more interest. Once Boozer signed with Chicago, Nets should have countered with Lee the next day. However, it was already too late. The disrespect was already in place.
Proky deserves to see no lesser than the top prospects
Other than the three, Thorn would suffice.
And now, it would really be UNETHICAL to talk to other free agents while publicly waiting for the decision of your main target free agents.
The impression on the free agents won’t be good.
Now, if the courtship is not public, then it’s perfectly fine.
Thorn is a very principled person. If you’re observing, you’ll notice this a lot especially for the past few months.
"Beat the Heat!"
this
why should Prokhorov waste his time interviewing Carlos Boozer or David Lee
he wanted to see the top dog. The top dog had other plans. It is what it is.
I like the way that Prokho thinks. Go big, or don’t go at all. Only people who want to see quick fixes that will lead us to nowhere would consider signing Stoudemire to 100 million uninsured, spending 80 million dollars on an injury prone PF that cannot play defense(and didn’t even give the Nets a chance to offer), or overpaying for David Lee, as “doing something”. Signing guys to max deals just to say that you did is foolish. That’s not how a smart basketball operation should be run, and from what i’ve seen, will not be run under this regime and I’m glad.
The Nets have done plenty this offseason and have put this franchise in a great position during this rebuilding phase.
"No one stands on the top of the world. Not you, not me, not even gods. But the unbearable vacancy of the throne in the sky is over. From now on...I will be sitting on it."
by MrDollarBills on Jul 28, 2010 4:47 PM EDT up reply actions
Then Proky got what he deserved.
He lost out.
I don’t know if he learned his lesson.
The thing people keep forgetting
Is that the trio planned this for years and played every team trying to acquire them this year.
but the Nets 'failed'
…pfft….give me a break
"No one stands on the top of the world. Not you, not me, not even gods. But the unbearable vacancy of the throne in the sky is over. From now on...I will be sitting on it."
by MrDollarBills on Jul 28, 2010 4:47 PM EDT up reply actions
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