Would Nets Make a Play for Paul?
Chris Broussard reports that the Magic has now moved ahead of the Knicks on Chris Paul's list of preferred destinations because "league sources" believe Orlando could offer New Orleans better assets. Broussard also writes that "New Jersey and Charlotte are known to be among the many teams that would make offers for Paul".
However, a Nets insider reports that in order to get Paul, "Emeka Okafor has to come with him and Derrick Favors would have to go the other way." That, he said, presents problems, "I don’t see Okafor and Brook (Lopez) playing together" and Favors "is going to be like Dwight Howard."
As the rumors continue to fly, there are countervailing reports that New Orleans isn't likely to let Paul go despite his reported desire to leave the Hornets,
- Sources: Chris Paul's preferred destination is now Orlando Magic - Chris Broussard - ESPN
- Chris Paul in the Trade Machine - Henry Abbott - ESPN
- Paul bends to King James’ rule - Adrian Wojnarowski - Yahoo! Sports
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anything but Brook for Paul and Okafor is worth it
But it won’t happen. We are still losers and Prokhorov hasn’t helped one bit – in fact so far he has compounded the problem.
i wouldn't mind taking okafor as long as we keep brook and favors.
rite now the nets c favors as an untouchable guy like lopez. okafor would b a great back up big man at both spots at the 4 and the 5, and u can expect to c twill gone if anything.
Well if Okafor and Brook can’t play together then that is all I need to hear. I always thought there might be a way to keep Oka out of the deal but that won’t happen.
Since the face been revealed the game got real
Okafor is the deal killer.
Paul’s deal is one thing but Okafor is a definite no….and we do not need to give up Favors.
"No one stands on the top of the world. Not you, not me, not even gods. But the unbearable vacancy of the throne in the sky is over. From now on...I will be sitting on it."
by MrDollarBills on Jul 24, 2010 4:32 AM EDT up reply actions
just 4 kix
Even though I AM all for operation youth movement…..
Do you think a Lineup of…
Paul/Farmar
Morrow/FA
Melo/James
Okafor/KMART
Lopez/Petro
Can Seriously Contend for a title? Would it Satisfy CP3/MELO
And i’m understanding that it would cost us Harris, CLee, Hump 2 Picks for CP3/OKYdoke
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=2apgdvh
And Midseason Outlaw/Twill/Favors and 2 Picks for Melo/Kmart
These could work IMO.
We would be capped out… But we would contend
The NETS are coming!
as much as i want paul, i dont want the nets to give up favors
by mlee88 on Jul 23, 2010 11:53 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Too much Baggage
First off if it did go down, Paul would pull a LeBron, and refuse to play for the Nets. We don’t need this baggage. If we struggle he’ll get a migraine and want out of here. No way you can give up on Favors. His ceiling is so high that even should he fail he can be traded for someone willing to take a chance.
great point.
Don’t ignore the fact that Chris Paul has morphed into a prima donna malcontent. Never mind what kind of player he is…… the key thing is he is not the same PERSON he used to be. He has been poisoned by the manipulation of the James gang. The Nets are still dealing with the fallout from “Migraine-Gate” by our last prima donna quitter. We don’t need this.
by Oligarch on Jul 24, 2010 7:23 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I don't think they want to trade him right now
They have two years and they’re not going to make a rash decision. Right now they are absolutely nuts to think they will get Favors AND we will take back Okafor. No team could match that deal.
yup...
and I suspect ESPN is carrying World Wide Wes’ water…and this summer may the summer that the Worldwide Leader in Sports jumped the proverbial shark.
I agree
I call them the dumb-dumb media. They have churned out enough material for Jon Stewart to lambaste, except he does politics rather than sports.
Just listening to 1050AM this week, they’re beyond atrocious. Getting fans all in a tizzy over the prospect of Wilson Chandler + Eddy Curry + Tony Douglas for Chris Paul. Do they think we are so dumb as to believe this nonsense? What’s even sadder is that some fans call in and run with the rumors. It’s the media circus x1000.
I admit it’s good for ratings, but obviously they have no limit and no shame.
Nets = Global
Knicks = Local
I think NO needs to get rid of CP3 and Okafor this summer
CP3 already burned bridges with the franchise. NO has no choice but to rebuild, and the sooner they exchange CP3+Okafor for assets, the sooner NO begins their rebuilding process.
There is absolutely no advantage to delaying their rebuilding.
How so?
Weren’t the Lakers waddling in no man’s land before Chris Wallace gift wrapped Pau Gasol to them?
by imdkidd on Jul 24, 2010 1:39 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
actuallly
they were the already the #1 seed
by GrandKenyon6 on Jul 24, 2010 10:01 AM EDT up reply actions
totally disagree.
You are suggesting the inmates SHOULD be running the asylum. Chris Paul should shut up and play or be suspended without pay. Dude has two years left on his CONTRACT. That means something.
absolutely agree
If you are a player (earning millions of dollars) and you have a contract which does not expire for a couple more years you should respect the contract. I wouldn’t be surprised to see David Stern step in soon, he thought “the decision” was terrible and misguided and doesn’t want Maverick Carter or World Wide Wes to have too much power. Players need to respect contracts if they are getting paid millions.
by Yi Of Little Faith on Jul 24, 2010 7:45 AM EDT up reply actions
His knees won't last that long
Short term gain only. Long term risk is toooooooo great.
His knee injury has been greatly exaggerated.
"...where they don't play with a shot clock." - C. Sager
by kv on Jul 24, 2010 1:35 AM EDT up reply actions
Do not give up Favors
NO is not negotiating from position of strength if they are packaging CP# with Okafor.
NO needs to get move CP3 this summer. And they need to divest themselves of Okafor’s contract.
We need to find someone else
The nets shoud set their sights on other players on the block instead of paul. Maybe a josh smith or maybe even milsalp or granger
by mlee88 on Jul 24, 2010 12:00 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
I am so mixed on this potential deal...
To get arguably the best pg in the NBA would be unreal. I think what would be better is to watch Brook, Court, Twill, James, and Favors reach their full potential. I feel that with this great coaching staff all of these guys can be great by Brooklyn. Devin is a great point guard and Avery will make sure of this. If Court plays like he did post all star break he will be fine for us. We have better shooters in James, Outlaw, and Morrow which will open things up for Brook and get rid of the double teams. Twill has potential to be a 15-6-6 guy and Favors upside is just crazy. Keep the team together. Get a veteran PF and watch the guys develop. We don’t need quick fixes anymore. Use what we have and make it work with the help from our great coaches.
You forgot to mention the part where we control that awesome point guard for only 2 years.
Since the face been revealed the game got real
I don't think that's an issue.
IF we get Paul it would be without giving up Favors and then he would love it here. Otherwise it doesn’t make sense. The longer it goes on the more likely that we would be in the mix.
-IMO
agreed
I’d like to see what we have first.
"No one stands on the top of the world. Not you, not me, not even gods. But the unbearable vacancy of the throne in the sky is over. From now on...I will be sitting on it."
by MrDollarBills on Jul 24, 2010 4:35 AM EDT up reply actions
On a separate note...
How delusional are knicks fans on 1050 espn or 660 the fan thinking they are going to get CP3 without giving up danillo or take back Okafor. NO isn’t stupid. If a trade to the Knicks is going to happen it will look like this
Knicks get- CP3 Okafor and MAYBE Posey
NO gets- Danillo, Wilson, Randolph, Azubuike, Douglas, 2014 1st round, cash, and Curry’s expiring if they want it
The words delusional and Knick fans are redundant.
by brooklynbound on Jul 24, 2010 12:11 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
LOL but
A lot of Net fans thought we were getting Lebronwhen it was never even an option so..
Since the face been revealed the game got real
No doubt about it...
but nets fans are not that shot out in my opinion. We were wishful thinking and Knicks fans get hyped up over anything. The day of the Lebron decision i had friends texting me (Knicks fans) saying all this stuff about the decision being at Houston’s mansion or he was eating at a steakhouse with Amare. They are ridiculous
by Bruce Jones on Jul 24, 2010 12:15 AM EDT up reply actions
No problem...
believe me I get as excited as the next fan with rumors but I always try to stay level headed when it comes down to it.
by Bruce Jones on Jul 24, 2010 12:18 AM EDT up reply actions
IF the nets werent a Option for Lebron...
Then the knicks and Bulls werent either nor the Cavs
We all Know it was about joining Wade and Bosh in Miami since 07
"Avery Johnson: Erase to Replace"
Wall2KingJames to JamesSucks
by Wall2KingJames on Jul 24, 2010 12:21 AM EDT up reply actions
We know that now
remember people we hype thinking he would go to their team and saying they had faith and all that stuff.
But as you said this has been planned out. Now look at Chris Paul. Two weeks ago him melo and Amare makes a toast about forming a new big three.
now he says the Knicks of all places is where he would like to go. No doubt Lebron’s management has had been talking in his ear.
I believe if he goes to a team other than his choosing he will still find away to the knicks or a team with two superstars.
Lebron set the blueprint for these players and they are willing to follow their leader.
accept KD that is.
by killa kadafi191 on Jul 24, 2010 8:45 AM EDT up reply actions
Lebron's blueprint doesn't work if you are under contract
or willing to leave huge bucks on the table the year before a lock out and a restructuring of the CBA.
Carmelo Anthony would have to take a massive paycut to play on any team with Paul, Okafor, and Stoudemire.
"No one stands on the top of the world. Not you, not me, not even gods. But the unbearable vacancy of the throne in the sky is over. From now on...I will be sitting on it."
by MrDollarBills on Jul 24, 2010 10:17 AM EDT up reply actions
or the knicks do a sign and trade with Melo but I suspect Denver isn't as stupid
as the cavs. If melo goes through the trade deadline and Melo hasn’t signed the extension go ahead and deal him.
The Lebron’s blueprint was remixed for CP3.
1. “Let it leaked that you unhappy and want to be traded.”
2. “List your teams. This way this let the teams to know come get you and the other teams to back off because you will just leave in two years”
3. “You are right in this. The hornets haven’t done anything or surrounded you with help. They are more interested in trading starters (R.Butler) for second round picks. Bring up the team shortcomings so you are justified.”
4. “Join a team with your buddies they will be able to talk management into doing everything they can to get you.”
5. Forget the small market cities. It’s all about you and winning.6.
6. “You are a superstar. You deserve better. You shouldn’t have to work by yourself on a team you call your own. Go to a team with two other stars. So when you don’t win the blame isn’t just on you.”
Hahahahahahahah.
Seriously if Roy Dwight and Deron hook up next I’m done …….
kidding
by killa kadafi191 on Jul 24, 2010 10:36 AM EDT up reply actions
You have that backwards, because Durant was never accused of rape.
by diehardNFFLbarnone on Jul 24, 2010 11:45 AM EDT up reply actions
they go together quite nicely
"No one stands on the top of the world. Not you, not me, not even gods. But the unbearable vacancy of the throne in the sky is over. From now on...I will be sitting on it."
by MrDollarBills on Jul 24, 2010 1:23 PM EDT up reply actions
I’ll do Devin, Hump, TWill, Courtney, 2011 first rounder and a 2013 pick for CP3 and OK4. Players like Brook and Favors would improve so much with a PG in CP3’s mold.
by brooklynbound on Jul 24, 2010 12:10 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
If it wasnt for iguodala’s bad contract i woudnt mind trading for him
by mlee88 on Jul 24, 2010 12:15 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
Rumors
I don’t know about all of you… but my mind is just drained from all the rumors and the what could be, what should be, and what could have been… I think I’m just gonna wait for an actual big named player to actually sign. Getting your hopes up sucks!
Tell me who the last dominant PG was to win a title?
Isaiah Thomas? You have to go back a long way to find a dominant pg that has won his team a title. Now tell me the last big man? Every team basically has dominant big men. The Pistons may be the only example in recent history that didn’t have one. Steve Nash or Kidd or even Paul have never won titles. Tim Duncan, Shack, Hakeem or even Gasol. You pair them with a allstar wing player like Manu, DWade or Kobe and you win titles. No way the Nets should trade Favors. He may not reach his full potential, but if he does…we’re right there with 2 allstar big men. Twill could even be that allstar wing player if he can shoot better.
He’s exciting but no to CP3. Especially if his knee isn’t 100%.
by djsupreme on Jul 24, 2010 12:35 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Agreed....
NetIncome always says it. Every good team has 3 good big men. Recently the lakers with Pau, Odom, and Bynum. Favors and Brook are a great start
by Bruce Jones on Jul 24, 2010 12:37 AM EDT up reply actions
if you pair a Great big with a Great PG its a diff story though
i still will not give up favors for paul
The thing is, if there is ONE player you can compare Paul to, it is Isiah.
"...where they don't play with a shot clock." - C. Sager
by kv on Jul 24, 2010 2:55 AM EDT up reply actions
ONLY players to avg 20 pts, 10 ast, and 2 steals
by ILikeSports on Jul 24, 2010 10:45 AM EDT up reply actions
Paul is more of a scorer
i would think a healthy CP3 is better than Isaiah
Hmm Favors will be like dwight Howard?
Exactly what ive been saying (when ppl compared him to amare and bosh wth) but he could be better offensively.. thats all i need to hear to say HELL NO!!! to Chris Paul
I wouldnt sweat this a bit...its a clear and easy decision
NO THANKS!
"I want to win, I want the team to win and I'm in complete control."
-Coach Avery Johnson.
Forget it
can the nets just get a deal done already these rumors just keep piling up in my mind i’ll be good if the nets signed an athletic Power Forward with alot of expierence to help out the roster someone like James Singleton.
Lopez
Singleton
Outlaw
Lee
Harris
T-will
Petro
Favors
James
Morrow
Farmar
Humpries
What nba team has that type of athletisism at the forward positions Singleton, Outlaw,
T-will, James, and Favors according to Van gundy Favors is athletic enough to guard a Small foward Singleton is also athletic enough to guard a small forward and outlaw is long enough to guard P.F. and james is big and strong enough to guard P.F.S ALSO. ON mismatches nets would;nt surrender points so easy imagine this team on a fast break.
At the two guard great shooters.
At the center spot you have long and skilled big men.
At the point guard you have the fastest player in the league when healthy and a guy with two rings as a back up.
This team is 3x +better than last years team imagine this team on a fast break.
by JJ25 on Jul 24, 2010 1:04 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
this team needs to use the fastbreak as a weapon
singleton would be great in the fastbreak,.
"I want to win, I want the team to win and I'm in complete control."
-Coach Avery Johnson.
If CP3 is healthy
He’s a hall of fame type player. Sorry but I let Favors go for a player like Paul.
by eLonepb on Jul 24, 2010 1:48 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
And don't think for one minute
That the Dwight Howard comparison wasn’t intentional. If he’s trade bait, that’s the type of press they want to inflate his worth, whether they believe it or not.
by eLonepb on Jul 24, 2010 1:50 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Soon we’ll be hearing that he is Dwight Howard but with an offensive game. Olajuwon.
"...where they don't play with a shot clock." - C. Sager
by kv on Jul 24, 2010 2:01 AM EDT up reply actions
No thanks..
Favors is like Twill.. They still have a lot to prove.. There’s more to see..So seat down and please fasten your seatbelts..
The NETS is like my own sense of direction..
The MAGIC made me realize that one..
we better not give up favors
who wouldn’t like chris paul on their team? but we MUST keep favors if it means giving the kid up end the discussion.
Billy King
I just hope he doesn’t come in right away and start making foolish trades. king did mention he will be more patient this time around than while he was with sixers so let’s see if that holds true.
We need to pass on this one
"No one stands on the top of the world. Not you, not me, not even gods. But the unbearable vacancy of the throne in the sky is over. From now on...I will be sitting on it."
LOL
It’s BROUSSARD. ‘Nuff said. I don’t care about a vague mention from that moron. Paul is obviously not coming to the Nets.
Okafor's contract is an absolute cap killer
That alone should be a trade killer.
CP3’s injury issues are not joke. We are NOT in his list. Pass.
Also, every time the Nets have been mentioned as making an offer for Paul, those rumors have been shut down by our beatwriters and team officials.
The new nba player is a whiny coward that is afraid of hard work and dedication. Paul is trying to take the easy way out like lebron and bosh. He has some good peices in NO but is going to say publicly “i cant win here”. One of his teammates needs to punch him in the teeth for that disrespect. I dont want that dude on this team if he doesnt want to be here cause he will tank or complain the whole time. What a douche!
I say we stick with the team we have unless something solid falls in our lap.
The stars of the Nba today are a light in the pants.
"IF HE IS HEALTHY"....
If NetsDaily was twitter, that phrase would be the #1 trend. He IS healthy at the moment, but the odds are good he’s gonna need more surgeries after a while, even if he’s just as explosive as he’s been. Not worth giving up as much as we would have to.
by JohnFromLongIsland on Jul 24, 2010 8:34 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
The “odds are good”. There is no factual basis for this at all, because no one knows how much of the meniscus was taken out from Paul’s knee.
"...where they don't play with a shot clock." - C. Sager
he looked awful at the end of last season
and if he still needs more rest, well….
"No one stands on the top of the world. Not you, not me, not even gods. But the unbearable vacancy of the throne in the sky is over. From now on...I will be sitting on it."
by MrDollarBills on Jul 24, 2010 1:25 PM EDT up reply actions
He is not healthy at the moment
there is no indication of that. At the end of the season, he was a shadow of his former self. He decided to bail on Team USA to continue rest and rehab.
Just let him go to the Knicks
just wash our hands with this one cause he will pull a lebron two years from now and worse of all go to the knicks.
Just give him deuces and move on
by killa kadafi191 on Jul 24, 2010 8:34 AM EDT reply actions
Since nobody mentioned it here...
What about Paul’s “bone on bone” knee problem, did it miraculously healed so now he can start demanding trades and every teams dreams is to have him?
He’s not the best PG anymore you are as good as your last game and this situation just happened out of nowhere.
Just say no and move on, and let the Knicks build its great foundation with Amare’s and Pauls knees as the center of it.
for the right of watching tv broadcasted nets games...
we're not
No one here wants to pay Okafor 52 million
"No one stands on the top of the world. Not you, not me, not even gods. But the unbearable vacancy of the throne in the sky is over. From now on...I will be sitting on it."
by MrDollarBills on Jul 24, 2010 10:19 AM EDT up reply actions
what about the fact that we are looking to completely down grade our roster and our cap space
while at the same time gaining a slight upgrade, if paul is healthy, at PG. Devin Harris when healthy and motivated is a top flight pg, no need to make drastic moves to upgrade in such a minor way just for some big name. Once again, i am happy Proky is all about smart business, and isn’t looking to make irrational moves like our counterparts across the river
No Broken Down Players for our lottery picks
DONT DO IT!!! I was for signing amare. IF he broke down it would give favors a chance for the remainer of a year instead of trading everyone with potential for a similiar injury waiting to happen. At least Amare liked us.. paul is unknown. We missed our shot to pick up a star without giving up whats truely valuable, current star caliber players. Now, I cant wait to see these guys grow. Being this young they will learn fast because of the time/oppertunity they will get. If we could get him for devin and lee..sure. No favors, no twill, no lottery draft picks now or future!
I would do the deal provided we can keep Favors
Taking on Okafor is the cost of doing business and perhaps it allows us to keep our best prospect in Favors. I think if you make the trade for Paul, the team becomes instantly respected and it could lead to other things. You make the trade for Paul and Okafor, its true your cap space is exhausted for a long time, but the team is set up wiell in terms of depth and reasonably priced young talent, and draft picks, that you would be in pretty good shape on the sign and trade market. Lets say we have Paul and Okafor on the team. If Paul and Melo are serious about playing together, we would have the inside track on getting Melo. Melo can force a sign and trade and we could give back Outlaw, James, Morrow, draft picks, etc. The bottom line is we are not going to get a player of Paul’s caliber with our cap space and we certainly would not be in the game for Melo without Paul. I think we can gain the upperhand by calling Paul’s bluff and trading for him. He might be against it at first, but we can be a playoff team with him and the potential we see in Brook, Favors, and friends would be more well known by everyone in the NBA.
I would rather
Build the right way, through the draft. BUT if a trade presents itself like Deron :) then i ma all for it.
Melo will re-sign with the Nuggets. He’s expected to accept the 3 yr $65M offer he has from the Nuggets. Haven’t we learned our lesson? Thinking about trading for Paul under the dellusion it could get us Melo is not a good idea. Talk about pie in the sky once again. It’s deja vu.
Why hasn’t Melo re-signed yet. I have been hearing for weeks now that he would and it has not happenned. And I dont really agree with the pie in the sky. Lebron leaving Cleveland was said to be pie in the sky. Sure, it hurt that he didn’t come to NJ, but he may have started a trend of stars teaming up with one another. In any case, you dont trade for Paul so you can get Melo, you do it so you can get Paul. Paul would make our team better and respectable. Respectability could lead to better things, thats all I am saying.
Paul would make our team better
Would he if cost us a couple of our most promising youngsters (let’s not kidd ourselves, Favors would have to go to NO i any trade for Paul) and taking on Okafor’s contract? How about his SERIOUS injury issues? He already isn’t high on the Nets, as we are not on his list. We wouldn’t win anything with him. And we’d have little room to make moves that could improve the since our cap flexibility would be annihilated thanks to Emeka’s albatross. He’s asking our of NO, wouldn’t you expect him to do the same here since we wouldn’t win anything and we are not one of his preferred destinations? Or do you think we could win with Paul, Lopez and a bunch of role players? Bc that’s all we’d be left with. Read the recap. Favors would have to go to NO. And they’d probably ask for TWill too. I don’t think they’d be interested in Harris, since they have Collison.
I already said I wouldnt give up Favors. We can absorb Okafor into our cap space, which is even better for New Orleans than taking back an expiring contract. If you give up Harris (who they can flip for other assets) and TWIll, and picks, I think it would be enough. Maybe Portland makes a really good offer and beats us I dont know. But I think we can win with -
Paul Farmar
Lee Morrow
Outlaw James
Okafor Favors
Lopez Petro
We would be very good. I think a top 4-5 seed in the east year one and the potential of Favors and Lopez to get better would be plain to see.
Idk
Chris, you’re one of my favorite posters here, but I have to disagree with you here. If you’re talking about a top 4-5 team in the east, then I could see that happneing, but I don’t think that team could come close enough to contend for a championship, not even for the EC title..
dump and Favors?
If they want to include Okafor’s horrific contract in the trade (which I’m sure they would), then they’d have to deal with not getting Favors. Sorry, that’s two favors (clearing Ok and getting a legitimately high upside 4) for the price of one (an awesome, only if healthy, Paul)!
by NotSoSilentBob on Jul 24, 2010 9:28 PM EDT up reply actions
Andres – that is precisely what I said in my post, that we would be a top 4 or 5 team in the east with Paul next season. But our team would be young and will be improving, guys like Favors and Brook will be getting much better in the years to come and it should be clear for everyone to see that this team could contend at the highest levels in the years to come. We would also have many tradeable assets still that we can use in sign and trade scenarios to make the team better.
as for Melo
Do you think he’s gonna leave all that money on the table (it’s $21+M per) and risk to get less money after the new CBA is approved?
Only stupid teams make rash moves in attempts to get players under contract with other teams.
ahem
"No one stands on the top of the world. Not you, not me, not even gods. But the unbearable vacancy of the throne in the sky is over. From now on...I will be sitting on it."
by MrDollarBills on Jul 24, 2010 1:26 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah. Those Celtics, real stupid NBA Championship winners.
"...where they don't play with a shot clock." - C. Sager
by kv on Jul 24, 2010 2:13 PM EDT up reply actions
agreed
the value of keeping cap flexibility is less for signing a star free agent next year (take a look at the probable unrestricted list) than for use in a trade. the reality is that once we make that one, big trade, we’ll have no cap space left. chris paul is one of the few players in the league who a) might be available and b) worth making your one big move for. as a throw in to the trade, i wouldn’t mind having okafur to split minutes at the 4 and 5. he’s better than a lot of the stop-gap power forwards that have either been signed or remain to us as options. personally, i would do the deal if there’s any way to do it w/o involving d favors. then you have your ‘culture changing’ star, your vet PF, your young core, and a team that becomes an instantly attractive one for other great players
imagine something extremely witty here
then he leaves in two years
because he feels the team isn’t a championship contender and wants to be around his buddies.
by killa kadafi191 on Jul 24, 2010 11:13 AM EDT reply actions
Life is full of risks my friend. Its a similar situation to when we traded for JKidd. Everyone thought he would leave after two years as well. But Kidd made everyone around him better and suddenly the Nets did not seem like such a terrible team with Kidd on it. The same thing would happen with Paul. Lopez will look like a star. Favors may look like KMart because he will be finishing perfect setups from Paul. Outlaw and James will look better too and Lee and Morrow will be like Kittles. After one year, suddenly the Nets will seem pretty good and then you have the rich owner that Paul doesn’t have in New Orleans and you have Brooklyn on the way in an extra year. The wild card is Carmelo. If Paul and Melo are serious about teaming up, the fact is Melo would get a lot more money to do a sign and trade to the Nets than he could by bolting Denver for the Knicks straight away. And the Knicks would not even have Paul for potentially another season, and how can he be sure Paul would come a year later? I’m telling you, the Nets can really pull this off if they have the guts to do it.
I dont...
want to bet all our eggs in one basket. If we gave up Harris, and Twill and 2 first. That is even a lot but i would be ok with that. But to give up Favors as well? NO thanks, i want to see what this kid can be. We were 12-70 last season and Favors is what we can show for it, lets not just throw that away.
Like I said, I would not give up Favors either. If we take on Okafor into pure cap space, thats a big benefit for New Orleans. I don’t think they have the leverage to force us to part with Favors. I think the other pieces you mention could be enough to make it happen. The only team that I think can put together a comparable offer is Portland, and thats if they are willing to give up Batum. They have some expiring contracts like Pryzbilla and Miller.
Right life is full of risk but I do not
Pull something off with little gain.
This is the reality of the situation we trade for Paul we have to hope he wants to stay here. Which is highly unlikely. This guy is like Lebron now.
And we all now know that Lebron goal was going to Miami and we now see where Chris eyes are set.
So unless the Nets win a championship he will not stay.
The Owner doesn’t impress the superstars we saw that during the free agency.
They are not interested in building they want it now and quick and don’t want to work for it harder than they have to.
Reports are steady coming in (especially since he and Lala finally tied the knot) that Melo wants to live and raise a family in NY and play with friends Amare and CP3.
They aren’t interested in potential. They want what they want and how they wanted.
Lebron people have been in CP3 ear.
Now instead of them telling him look. Stay quiet. Played the first couple games prove that your healthy and worth trading for. Talk to management quietly so things can work out for both sides
Instead of announcing your displeasure and embarrassing your franchise and saying they are not good enough to compete and you deserve better.
Sorry I don’t want that on this team. It’s very likely dude would just leave in two years and say the Nets don’t have another superstar player.
As my daddy said. “if a girl will cheat on her man with you. She will do the same thing to you.”
by killa kadafi191 on Jul 24, 2010 11:34 AM EDT up reply actions
I see the risks you are talking about, which is why I don’t give up Favors under any circumstance. I think you can bring another superstar to the Nets provided you have Paul on the team. And Lopez and Favors will look awfully good playing with Paul, probably will look better than Amare will look on the Knicks. You control Paul for 2 years, who is to say Amare will not blow out his knee in those two years and that the Knicks will look like hot trash. You want to play for the rings you have to take some risks.
Who's to say
we will make the playoffs?
who is to say CP3 will be healthy?
who is to say CP3 knee will not blow out?
Who is to say Favors isn’t Tyrus Thomas.
Let the Knicks take that risk. Lets stay on our path and not get distracted.
The Knicks are know for trading and acquiring players that are injured prone.
Even with Paul we are not better than the top 6 teams in East.
Let him go to the Knicks.
by killa kadafi191 on Jul 24, 2010 11:49 AM EDT up reply actions
Of course all these things could happen. But if we stay on our current path, where exactly do you think that will lead us? Do you believe this is a future championship team or a future one round (or 2) and out playoff team? Again – if you can keep Favors, don’t you have to take the risk?
even with Paul
we are below the top teams in the East.
you don’t win in the situation.
The thing is you get Paul you hope he wants to stay.
Instead of going where he wants to go and has his heart on already.
See Paul has people influencing his decisions now and those same people will keep telling him to go some where else. A bigger market, better team.
You hope Melo comes here instead of the team he wants to.
This is the Lebron situation again.
And like Lebron dude had his eyes somewhere else already.
The Nets should be smarter this time and just ignore this.
by killa kadafi191 on Jul 24, 2010 11:55 AM EDT up reply actions
Do you thnk Lebron had his eyes on a destination (Miami) or an eye on his teammates (Wade, Bosh)? If you have Paul on the team today, doesnt Melo say in one years time if he is still a free agent, damn the Nets look a lot better than the Knicks? Plus, the Nets will be playing in NYC in one additional year so not sure I agree about the issue of playing in a bigger market. These guys are talking about the Knicks because the Knicks got Amare. If the Nets got Paul, they would be talking about the Nets. Is this not the point you have been making about how smart the Knicks were to take the initiative on getting Amare?
the thing about it.
they all talk
and similar to James we all know he really didn’t want to be in Cleveland and at the end of the day. Paul doesn’t want to be in New Jersey.
Similar to when free agents called James and said they couldn’t sign there because James himself was unsure of where he was going.
Chris Paul doesn’t want to be on team that doesn’t have another superstar.
He wants to be in NY. Melo will call Paul and Paul will say look I don’t want to be here. Go ahead and move forward with the plan. Go to NY with Amare I will be there in a year.
At the end of the day this is Lebron all over again.
We stop focusing on players who already have their plans set and just move on with ours.
With Paul we are not competing with for a ring.
by killa kadafi191 on Jul 24, 2010 12:09 PM EDT up reply actions
that's small market/perennial loser mentality
reality is players do become free agents. reality is players do sign with other teams when they become free agents. once you’ve got the horses, you’ve got to win and you’ve got to create a world class culture for the franchise- from top to bottom. that’s how you re-sign your free agents. seems iike this lebron/wade/bosh situation has given you a case of clevelanditis
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Also
could anyone tell when was the last time Paul led his to anything? Dude has won ONE playoff series in his entire career. I’m questioning his talents, just saying he hasn’t shown yet that he can lead a team deep into the playoffs. Add to that his injury issues, that are NO joke, the fact that we aren’t on his list, that we’d have to give up on our young players and take on Okafor’s GOD AQFUL contract, and it’s a no-no to me.
oops, I meant to say
“could anyone tell me when was the last time Paul led his team to anything?”
and
“I’m NOT questioning his talents”
When was the last time JKidd led his team to anything before being traded to the Nets? He couldnt get his team out of the first round either. The parallels to the JKidd situation of years earlier are really a lot. Paul has not had a lot of talent on those teams and the west has been stacked. David West is nothing really special and he is the best player Paul has ever played with.
Jason Kidd situation was different.
His team was steady losing in the playoffs plus he was involved in a domestic violence. The Suns got rid of him because of those reasons.
Kidd didn’t do as paul and said he was frustrated with the team and them not winning.
Paul listed a group of teams he would like to be traded to.
Similar to kidd was frustrated with us. He said he would welcome a trade and hinted he would love to go back to dallas.
We saw how that ended up.
there is a difference of a franchise being frustrated with a player and player with the franchise.
The player can basically point out what the franchise hasn’t done or haven’t surround him with players and it’s the front office and the team mates fault..
by killa kadafi191 on Jul 24, 2010 11:38 AM EDT up reply actions
at Chris2
Paul made all those guys look better, I concur, but still David West is a 2 time All-Star (in the West, that is no joke), Tyson Chandler used to be a defensive game changing force while in his prime in NO, and Peja was one of the best shooters in the game. Now they may be washed up, but while in their prime, one playoff series is all that team could win.
Tyson Chandler was turned into an offensive force with Paul, without Paul he is nothing. West was also turned into an Allstar.
Statistically Paul is in the Lebron James stratosphere, believe it or not.
"...where they don't play with a shot clock." - C. Sager
It's this I don't understand
People who believe is a game changer in the LeBron James stratosphere. He hasn’tdone anything to be considered tha tkind of player.
I’ve posted this before, but worth repeating, a nice read on Paul:
In terms of statistical measures, Paul is an incredibly efficient player. For what is essentially an “off” year for him due to injuries, Paul shot 49.3% from the field, 40.9% from three, and topped that off with a 58.4 TS% last year. His offensive game covers the entire floor, with adept three-point range aided by an insanely good floater that he can use up to 10-12 feet out. Just to illustrate this, the typical percentage for players on 10-12 foot shots is around the high 30s, as these usually tend to be contested and require a floater. For the ‘08-’09 season (used simply because the data for this has already been compiled), the top four players in this category were Paul (49.7%), Yao Ming (49.7%), Pau Gasol (48.8%), and Dirk Nowitzki (48.6%). So Paul shoots better, as a 6’0’’ point guard, on contested floaters than the 7’0’’ Gasol. If that doesn’t indicate that he’s devastating from every point on the floor, I’m not sure what else I can tell you.
And naturally, Paul is a point guard, so he’s obviously feeding the ball to other players when he’s not carving up defenses himself. Although not as flashy as Steve Nash or working within a dedicated screen-roll system that generates easy looks like Williams, Paul is a highly effective passer who rarely errs in the process. For the previous season, Paul put up a 36.6 assist ratio (percentage of his possessions that ended with an assist) as compared to a minuscule 8.5 turnover ratio (percentage of his possessions that ended with a turnover). This results in Paul’s putting up daily numbers that match and exceed a lot of the gaudy stats that LeBron posts night after night, but the unquestioned part about of it is how much he improves everyone around him, perhaps best seen in how he turned Tyson Chandler, an offensive liability, into a force off the pick-and-roll that usually ended with Chandler dunking the ball. As a final note on this, to begin the ‘09-’10 season, Paul shot 59.4% from the field and 65.5% from three before succumbing to injury. I’ll stop there.
"...where they don't play with a shot clock." - C. Sager
Exactly. Since the CP3 trade talk, I haven't seen one significant story about his incomplete surgery or the fact that CP3 may never be the same player again.
Instead most of the stories are that NO could never get equal value for him.
I’ll bet the MEDIA will wait until CP3 is traded before bringing up his incomplete surgery.
It wasn’t much different with Amare. He was great, until after he was traded.
I would just forget about CP3, at least until he proves himself during the regular season.
this
The media has kept silent about the knee issue, and I think that it’s being done on purpose
"No one stands on the top of the world. Not you, not me, not even gods. But the unbearable vacancy of the throne in the sky is over. From now on...I will be sitting on it."
by MrDollarBills on Jul 24, 2010 1:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Yes. The “media” is trying to trick everyone. The problem is that the injury is not the such as it has been discussed on NetsDaily.
"...where they don't play with a shot clock." - C. Sager
by kv on Jul 24, 2010 2:04 PM EDT up reply actions
What is an “Incomplete Surgery” ????
"...where they don't play with a shot clock." - C. Sager
by kv on Jul 24, 2010 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions
He chose to have his meniscus removed instead of repaired, in order to speed up his recovery.
Now he doesn’t have any meniscus, so there is painful bone-to-bone contact that may permanently prevent him from having the “explosion” he had before the injury. People think the reason he wasn’t the same after the surgery was due to more recovery was necessary.
Maybe he will never recover.
NI wrote that he will need more surgery.
Unfortunately there has been some misinformation on this site
About the extent of his injury.
"...where they don't play with a shot clock." - C. Sager
by kv on Jul 24, 2010 2:03 PM EDT up reply actions
one of the best ways to speed up favors progress
is to have a point guard like cp3 at the helm. IF HEALTHY, he’ll make morrow look like ray allen, brook look like duncan. see also, the jason kidd area (and his influence on kmart, jefferson and kittles)
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i disagree with you here
when healthy, he is a top 5 player and a legitimate game changer
The reason i’m wary of him though is his knee issues, and his questionable attitude. I don’t sell the farm on a guy with a bad knee and who had the audacity to talk about going to another team while under contract. That’s classless….he fits right in with Lebron James and his buddy Maverick.
"No one stands on the top of the world. Not you, not me, not even gods. But the unbearable vacancy of the throne in the sky is over. From now on...I will be sitting on it."
by MrDollarBills on Jul 24, 2010 1:31 PM EDT up reply actions
i am skeptical
about his knee. but having no inside knowledge, i’d have to defer to the team/med experts. players, even healthy ones, can go down any time. i’m less wary of him demanding a trade- this happens a lot in all sports. NO is going through an ownership change and maybe he’s not happy with the new direction. i’m less worried in CP3’s case because 99% of the evidence points to the fact that he’s pretty classy.
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You have no real knowledge about the extent of his injury. Teams involved in rumors don’t seem to be worried about it at all.
"...where they don't play with a shot clock." - C. Sager
by kv on Jul 24, 2010 2:05 PM EDT up reply actions
All you hear is what the media wants you to know. You know NOTHING about what the teams are saying privately about his Knee.
You should be attacking the Media instead of the fans, for withholding information to the public about his uncertain knee.
The Media did the same thing with Amare. Now we learn that Amare’s knees can’t even be insured. The media didn’t discuss this until AFTER he was taken by the Knicks.
The Media makes their money hyping Superstars.
If I have none...
…then neither do you.
"No one stands on the top of the world. Not you, not me, not even gods. But the unbearable vacancy of the throne in the sky is over. From now on...I will be sitting on it."
by MrDollarBills on Jul 25, 2010 10:45 AM EDT up reply actions
Tyson has always been a very limited player. Chris Paul absoultely made Tyson Chandler. Peja to me has always been mediocre on the Hornets. I don’t remember one year on that team when he scared anyone. Consistently a defensive liability and his shot was never good with them. West was pretty good I will concede that but not really a game changer, more of a great role player. I think the talent we have on the Nets is superior to what he had on the Hornets. At least I think it is more conducive to defense and winning playoff basketball.
I agree that Paul made Tyson look much better on O
but he had nothing to do with him being a defensive stud.
this
i see a lot of similarities w/ paul and kidd also. they have different styles of play, but both very special players. i also think that folks seem to underrate the value of a great PG. granted, we’ve seen that it is possible to win the marbles w/o a great PG. however, i believe that’s more due to the fact that there are very few ‘greats’ at the position. i also think that there is no other position that can instantly change the dynamic of team, make other players better and take on leadership than the position of PG (if you have a truly great player there). of any fans on the planet, nets fans should know this better than anyone post-JKidd
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Can we pull a Celtics?
CP3 not wanting to come to NJ is like KG not wanting to go to Boston.
To me Brook, Favors and James are the only untouchables. Devin Twill and Lee, Picks and Cap Space are the trade chips + Hump & Ross are Fill ins.
Indiana likes Devin for Granger- we need to renew talks with them get that deal to go down or have it in place, for the eventual CP3 trade. If either team wants one of our untouchables the deal is off, we go back hey its not like we have been waiting for this to come along anyway, in a negotiation one needs to convince the other side that these are things we are willing to do and these we don’t.
In the end if we get CP3+ Okafor + Granger and retain Brook, Favors + James along with our Four new signings whom we cannot include in any trade until Mid December we would be set on our path for Championship in Five years target
CP3 is returning from Injury so is Devin, However while Devin’s game is predicated on speed CP3’s is ball distribution a true point guard he can be far more effective at half of the speed.
Also if it is really devastating injury ridden CP3 we don’t resign him after two years. Where do you think Porky’s wealth is going to be useful.
Okafor – I have no idea why people think he is bad? He is if he costs us Favors if not he absolutely the Guy I want next to Favors, excellent rebounder and shot blocker with decent mid-range game. He doesnt deserve the money but give me a break boozer & David lee’s contracts are far more attrocious. The only thing Okafor doesnt do is run as fast, but do we really need him to run? Lets see where his speed impacts us on defense? hmm most PF’s can run by him yes true if he is guarding them on perimeter but why do we have help defense? more over we can pack the paint with him and brook and ask others to break that. At some point one has to realize that no team is going to be perfect at all aspects of the game so I am going to live with it – in a heart beat.
His contract is the point of discussion, yes it is high – how is this a problem, it is possible that in case we have a hard cap then we will not be able to sign brook and favors and the rest of the guys we have. That’s a big problem not just to our team but to all the other teams – in that scenario it would be mayhem when ever there is a off season for example KD comes out at about same time as Okafor’s contarct is up so now since we were not able to up brook and favors we are all set for KD? – I am just saying this is utter crap there certainly are going to be restrictions the rules will not be clear until we have them agreed upon so I will be prudent but not worry about it.
If not okafor is a good character and a winner no need to think twice here if all our expectations are met.
Granger – should have been a net in the first place if the poor man’s scout had not interfered and picked Antonie Wright. But if we some how get him without Favors or james in the package then this is off season will rate second to 2001
We will have one of the best teams / core at that point to contend with heat
they have three we may have the best One to Eight. (Outlaw , Morrow & Famar)
A lot of you have over-looked the fact that this off season we have silently created a good foundation with a view about future, Morrow is obvious he is the zone buster a team needs and he is arguably the best (Krover may be the best)
Outlaw signing was critical – 7 million is not Cap constraining.
- How is he useful – most importantly for three reasons his height he is 6’ 9", he is good from deep especially corners and is a good defender – now if we look back at who in the past have troubled James in post season – a questionable defender in Hedo and his back up Micheal Pietrus bot have the same attributes, out law has post season experience so that is not going to be new, all these players need good coaching Ray allen was never considered a good defender but he is at least not a liability anymore and that has more to do with coaching than natural ability.
Bottom line Porky’s imprint will be clear if we can pull this scenario if the opportunity presents itself.
Hoping for the best
now this makes sense
as you stated KG did not want to come to Boston first. Until the got Ray Allen. The problem we have no superstar but I don’t like risky moves like this but your post made sense.
by killa kadafi191 on Jul 24, 2010 11:47 AM EDT up reply actions
how's James untouchable?
I like him a lot, but come on, then you have people here who hit the ceiling when somebody suggests TWill is untouchable.
Reason
Wade coming out of college was a unknown too, It was all about James, melo, and Darko, wade had a injury to begin with and was not there for the first seven games when they went 0-7 and of course rest is history,
Damion James – has height, outside as well as good mid range jumper , is a good defender by scouting reports and most importantly he played opposite KD for couple of years in practice that means on a daily basis he faced one of the best talents, if our guy is good enough to go in the first round and then play well in Summer League I would like to know what he is capable of before giving him away.
To this day I always feel the $300 thousand give away of Krover cost us the championship (the one we lost to spurs) his outside shot is what we wanted in that playoff run there were question marks on whether he could get his shot off in time but we didn’t even see him play, well that is also history
So if James was average I would not care that much but don’t want to give him away , at this point other teams also don’t know him as much otherwise they would have picked him because both NO and Indiana had their chance so keep him aside and no one may even notice, it would be foolish if we offer him by ourselves.
Agree
But don’t believe that other team will make a stance of it either in that case we don’t have to give him away, what are picks for. He should be a untouchable in our managements thinking is what I want
Have you watched Chris Paul play the last few years? James is a minor piece who might not be anything in the NBA.
"...where they don't play with a shot clock." - C. Sager
True
Only if they put their foot down and persist like you are doing… (Not from our own end)
Its not that DJames is untouchable, it is that Nets could never get proper value for him.
I too don’t want DJames to be traded, because I have a feeling he is going to be decent starter before long.
He might even have as much impact as the #4 pick, Wesley Johnson.
I watched Paul play in April
against us. He looked like crap
"No one stands on the top of the world. Not you, not me, not even gods. But the unbearable vacancy of the throne in the sky is over. From now on...I will be sitting on it."
by MrDollarBills on Jul 24, 2010 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Yep. He's done. Next.
"...where they don't play with a shot clock." - C. Sager
by kv on Jul 24, 2010 2:10 PM EDT up reply actions
For once I agree with Andres
LOL at Damian James being a deal breaker when it comes to obtaining Chris Paul. LMAO, in fact.
Nets = Global
Knicks = Local
just three pie in the sky words
Terrence William’s potential
"...where they don't play with a shot clock." - C. Sager
Bring in CP3 but Favors Stays
I think the Nets should obviously look into this opportunity but not at the risk of giving up Derrick Favors…we went through a whole lot of sucking and agony over the last couple of years to work towards getting quality young players…Derrick Favors keeps getting compared to Dwight Howard and Amare Stoudemire…anytime you have your hands on a player with those type of expectations i believe you have to play it out and see what he develops into… i think its just a chance you have to take…
plus, its not like we have a hole in the PG position, Devin Harris in my opinion will return to all star status this season, the way this team is built it works in his favor…
but obviously the nets have to make a call or two to NO and see if they could work something out where they can get CP3 without including Favors or Lopez, pretty much just about everyone else is expendable when you’re talking about bringing Chris Paul…
“Bring in CP3 but Favors Stays”
This is exactly how Knick fans are talking in regards to Gallinari. When your team sucks, you imagine your young talent is going to turn into a HoFer.
"...where they don't play with a shot clock." - C. Sager
yea but Gallinari has been in the league for 2 years now and hasn’t really shown much in my opinion… i don’t really think you could compare the two, not to mention Favors is only 18 so if the experts are getting it right, the nets will have a quality dominant player for years to come…
and its not just the fans talking about Favors possibly developing into a great player, its pretty much everyone around the league making this claim… something we didn’t really see in Gallinari’s case…
by JerseyFinest on Jul 24, 2010 11:57 AM EDT up reply actions
The Knick fans think he is on the verge of becoming one of the great players in the league. No joke. They are putting him in the deal breaker category, as silly as it sounds. Its called bad team syndrome, you over value your own savior. Everyone who is not a Knick fan can see it, but if he’s on your team you can’t.
This is exactly how Favors is viewed, and pretty much how Twill is viewed (by some). Incoherent projection of greatness onto blank space.
"...where they don't play with a shot clock." - C. Sager
i agree with you, when the player is on your team you tend to be a bit basis but what i’m saying is its not just the fans talking highly of Favors, its pretty much the assessment of everyone around the league, experts, fans, team owners, and so on… sure that doesn’t guarantee anything, Favors could still be bust and a huge disappointment…but when its not just the fans backing him up, i think there is a little more validation there…
by JerseyFinest on Jul 24, 2010 12:08 PM EDT up reply actions
Who are all these people who unanimously agree that Favors is going to be some kind of NBA stud? There is great division over him and his future.
And people around the NBA also think Gallinari has great potential.
"...where they don't play with a shot clock." - C. Sager
KV you cant be serious
Bad Team syndrome? for Favors? i can see if he was in the league for 2 years then what you are saying makes sense but he never played a game. Everyone is excited about his potential (his potential along side of brook)
Everyone is excited about Gallinari as well, so says a Knick fan.
"...where they don't play with a shot clock." - C. Sager
by kv on Jul 24, 2010 2:08 PM EDT up reply actions
You should give examples
Since you always want us to explain. Show me Gm’s who say Favors will not grow into something special ( he may be A bust but who are these people u are talking about that dont like him)???
Show me the GMs that say that Gallinari is going to be a bust, or not grow into something “special”.
"...where they don't play with a shot clock." - C. Sager
by kv on Jul 24, 2010 2:08 PM EDT up reply actions
i have read endless articles on yahoo sports, espn, nba.com and so on all speaking extremely highly of Derrick Favors… over course there will be those that have a different opinion but the vast majority are in favor of Favors… but the truth is nobody knows and only time will tell who got it right…
as a nets fan i’m obviously hoping that favors developments into a great player but at the same time i’m not blind to the fact that there is a real possibility that he won’t… but the kid hasn’t even played in an official NBA game yet that counts for something …so all our predictions are just that predictions with no true affirmation…
by JerseyFinest on Jul 24, 2010 12:23 PM EDT up reply actions
The thing with “potential” is that it is not just potential for great, but for not great. He has the potential to be Amare-ish, but also Chris Wilcox-ish (he got 24 rebounds in a game I believe), or Stromile Swift.
"...where they don't play with a shot clock." - C. Sager
by kv on Jul 24, 2010 2:09 PM EDT up reply actions
i understand that 100% and by no means am i guaranteeing that Derrick Favors will absolutely be Amare or Dwight Howard-Like…all i’m saying is this, not every PF that is being drafted gets compared to Amare or Dwight Howard, so there must be something there in Favors that the scouts and sport analysts see in this kid to make those references… that’s all i’m really saying, its not just the fans that are being typical hopeful fans, its what people around the league are saying about Derrick Favors… again, to be clear i’m not saying just because people are saying he could be just as good as Dwight Howard that its automatically written in stone, that will be foolish of me or anyone else who thinks that… but there obviously has to be something there, something in his game that is being recognized as potential to be great…
by JerseyFinest on Jul 24, 2010 2:45 PM EDT up reply actions
Sure. But remember Chris Wilcox, or Swift, or even Nene. People fall in love with bodies and athletic power. These guys had a lot of potential, and even some success in the league.
"...where they don't play with a shot clock." - C. Sager
by kv on Jul 24, 2010 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions
And one should not forget that Gallinari is being compared to some of the greatest big men shooters ever to play the game. Being compared and being, are two different things.
"...where they don't play with a shot clock." - C. Sager
by kv on Jul 24, 2010 3:01 PM EDT up reply actions
exactly.. being compared to and being are completely different things… i couldn’t agree with that more…
Strike the Shepherd and the Sheep will Scatter
by JerseyFinest on Jul 24, 2010 4:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Will you guy's please stop it......
FAVORS is a STUD……..He has everything….It’s not just his athletic ability………He has WORK ETHIC which those other guy’s did not……..Please stop comparing him to players like Stromile Swift……He will be a Super Star…… He will be a Garnett or better……And it will happen sooner than you think……..Whether you like it or not…….GO NETS !!!!
Better Garnett? Why set the ceiling so low???
Better than anyone who ever lived I say!!!
"...where they don't play with a shot clock." - C. Sager
by kv on Jul 24, 2010 4:16 PM EDT up reply actions
true
he’s right. Favors could be Dwight or Stromile Swift
by killa kadafi191 on Jul 24, 2010 11:56 AM EDT reply actions
you’re right, he could end up great or a bust but i feel that’s just a chance the nets will have to take… looking at our team and the pieces we have in place in my opinion it doesn’t make sense to part with Favors…
by JerseyFinest on Jul 24, 2010 12:01 PM EDT up reply actions
All I have to say is
NO THANKS!!!!!
Too many IFs and BUTs about trying to trade for PAUL.
I want to keep Favors, Twill, and Lopez. I dont want to pay Okafor. I like Paul and Okafor but Okafor makes too much money. It will hurt us down the road.
THIS.....
I agree with you SIC One…..I never liked Paul……Another hyped up (LeLiar) NBA player with nothing to show….And Okafur’s a Bum…….It’s all about team play and chemistry……..TWILL and Favors and Brook will grow together and be fine….And I want to keep Harris…….I think that he is better than Paul….I think that he can be the Top Point guard in this League…..He just needs to play every game like he played his 40 point games…..
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=2ed92nj + Some Picks to NO
3 way deal a deal that involves Chris Paul, Devin Harris, and Danny Granger makes sense for all three teams Just A Thought.
Nets get:
Chris Paul
Emeka Okufor
Josh McRoberts
Why nets would do it — They want to make a splash this offseason and cant go empty handed as Proky said he wants a “Superstar through a trade”, it will clearly make them better and competitive for title run 1-5 years and it will back up the talk, Billboard a more.
Pacers get
Devin Harris
Julian Wright
Kris Humpries
Why the pacers would do it — They have been looking for a play maker that not only can create a shot for himself but for his teammates. team high assist last season 3.5 by T.J. Ford. They have notified the Nets they are interested in Harris Services. Granger is a good player but not a play maker averaging 2.5 assist and he has the ball in his hands most of the game.They Drafted a Granger clone in Paul George with the 10th Pick.
Hornets Get:
Danny Granger
Terrence Williams
Solomon Jones
Picks
Why the Hornets would do it—They have a good point guard in Darren Collison with alot of skills that wont get much playing time, behind Chris Paul and is a whole lot cheaper they have young pieces like Thornton,Craig Brakins, Quincy Pondexter and David West-29 add guys like Williams and Granger plus 4 picks next draft this allows them to cut into the salary cap something they have been serious about doing rather than winning now.
Noteable free agents in 2011 for NO David West(ETO),Peja Stojakavic,Daruis Songailia,James Posey(Buyout)
another trade option
i saw another trade option with indiana, new jersey, and new orleans… it went like this…
new jersey gets:
chris paul
james posey
indiana gets:
devin harris
emeka okafor
new orleans gets:
danny granger
kris humphries
jeff foster
…that would be a great deal for nj because we get chris paul essentially for devin harris and indiana gets the pg they want (devin harris, they tried trading for him earlier) and new orleans gets a quality player in granger (24ppg 5.5rpg) and the expiring contracts they want along with getting rid of those heavy contracts from okafor and posey… seems like it all works out and everybody’s a winner…
Strike the Shepherd and the Sheep will Scatter
by JerseyFinest on Jul 24, 2010 3:02 PM EDT up reply actions
How does Indiana win?
Taking on that albatross contract of Okafur?
Indiana has been desperate for PG and a Big man for a very long time. These are the two great weaknesses of their team.
"...where they don't play with a shot clock." - C. Sager
by kv on Jul 24, 2010 4:15 PM EDT up reply actions
Where did you see that, a link?
"...where they don't play with a shot clock." - C. Sager
by kv on Jul 24, 2010 4:15 PM EDT up reply actions
The more I think about this trade (and now I realize it is just something someone put into Trade Machine, and not a real trade), the nicer it is. The big question would have to be Granger. His contract is 4 more years I believe, so they would have to LOVE Granger to do this. I could see it happening though we Okafor AND Posey leaving.
"...where they don't play with a shot clock." - C. Sager
by kv on Jul 24, 2010 5:06 PM EDT up reply actions
Trade everyone from the Magic except Dwight Howard for...
CP3 and Melo…another Big 3 in the East!!!
Wade, LBJ and Bosh
Howard, Melo, CP3
KG, Pierce, Ray Allen

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