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Zoubek, Uzoh Among Likely Keepers

DIME's Daniel Marks writes that Brian Zoubek and Ben Uzoh are among the 10 undrafted players likely to make an NBA roster this fall...but not necessarily with Nets

Shouldn't be much of a surprise: the two are among only three undrafted players with partially guaranteed deals.

Zoubek, who DIME ranks fifth, will wind up somewhere because he was "one of the most efficient rebounders in all of college basketball last season", and rebounding translates to the NBA level. As for Uzoh, he's got "great size for a point guard and also possesses the ability to knock down the three".

Jeremy Lin, the Harvard point guard, is viewed as the most likely to make an NBA roster, following his strong summer league.  Lin is likely to sign a partially guaranteed deal this week with his hometown Warriors for more than $200,000.

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I thought I saw him with a Chinese Interpretor?

Is it true he hardly speaks English? How could he go to Harvard if that was true?

by jerry25 on Jul 20, 2010 10:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

http://youtube.com/index?desktop_uri=%2F&gl=US#/watch?v=ZmwrLSxCVbU

sounds fluent to me. Good to see his dream of playing for GSW came true!

~AC24

by AC24 on Jul 20, 2010 10:48 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Lol link didn’t work, probably not surprising since I’m on my phone xD.. Just search Jeremy Lin interview on YouTube

~AC24

by AC24 on Jul 20, 2010 10:49 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Must have been someone else, maybe a golfer? Can't remember where I saw an interpretor a few days ago.

I do know there is a Japanese woman pitching in minor league baseball in Calif., and is successful because of her sidearm knuckle ball. She doesn’t speak much English. First woman to make a professional baseball team, without some stunt.

by jerry25 on Jul 21, 2010 12:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

lol watch him drop 20 ppg like every other goldmine they find in the 2nd/undrafted/d-league. Is Curry the first lotto pick to work out for them?

by head_hunter on Jul 20, 2010 10:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

develop him?

hell with don nelsons “rotation” he’ll probably be starting in a week…at pf

by tian17 on Jul 20, 2010 9:58 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Zoubek

Saw that coming, can always use a 7footer that can rebound.

Since the face been revealed the game got real

by BL3ACH on Jul 20, 2010 10:29 PM EDT reply actions  

But can he defend and block shots?

Nets can do better I think.
This is not something to be “cheap” about. Nets are quite thin if something should happen to Lopez.

by jerry25 on Jul 20, 2010 10:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

I guess we will see soon enough.

Since the face been revealed the game got real

by BL3ACH on Jul 20, 2010 10:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

I thought Avery would have seen enough at the summer league.

Avery couldn’t have been too pleased with Zoubek, because he was trying to experiment with others that the Center position.

Siler looked best and is more experienced. Siler is more the type who could survive in NBA, but I still would prefer trading for Tiny Gallon, even if he is only 6’10" (almost).

by jerry25 on Jul 20, 2010 10:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

They signed Petro

Zoubek is third string.

He chose to wear no. 35….just like Collins and that is just what you hope he becomes: a smart player who sets picks, defends well, takes charges, blocks out and gets some offensive rebounds.

by Net Income on Jul 20, 2010 11:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Zoubek doesn't defend well

He rebounds and fouls

Please Prokhorov never again listen to the fools that told you it was a good idea to retain Rod Thorn

by cpawfan on Jul 21, 2010 9:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

He's a matchup center

Can be useful guarding other big centers like Shaq

by gsloots on Jul 21, 2010 1:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

I have doubts about Zoubek, but Uzoh should be fine at the end of the bench, as needed, without complaints.

Zoubek looks good, due to his size and rebounding, but appears to be too slow to defend in the NBA.

With Nets needing to have a “Big” as their current weakness, I think I would prefer at least one Vet. Min. as a backup.
Boone may be a more reliable rebounder and defender, but then Avery likes bigger players and then there is his foul shooting.

Instead of Zoubek, wouldn’t mind trading a pick+cash for Tiny Gallon (who via CDR trade or draft night miscue or bad luck) should already be a Net. And then try add Troy Murphy, and his huge expiring contract, later on, if no one better comes along. That would give Nets enough versatility at the 4/5.

With Zoubek and Uzoh giving Nets 14 players, it just isn’t possible for Avery to add 2 more players (Big and at least 1 Vet Min) and keep both players. Zoubek should go, since dropping Ross would cost 1.1 million in salary cap.

by jerry25 on Jul 20, 2010 10:29 PM EDT reply actions  

When Avery said the other day that he is likely to add a Vet Min (I think who would be a Wing), did he forget that he already has Quintin Ross signed up?

Maybe Avery doesn’t consider Ross as significant, or maybe Avery still doesn’t realize that Nets have 14/15 spots filled, if he keeps the undrafted players?

by jerry25 on Jul 20, 2010 10:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ross is easy to dump

he makes the vets minimum. He does defend, however.

by Net Income on Jul 20, 2010 11:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Avery basically said

in his interview with Carrino that Zoubek has made the team, saying he liked what he saw from Zoubek in the summer league and with him and Petro, the Nets have “good depth” at the 5.

He barely mentioned Uzoh, but he and King both said they expect to sign a “glue guy” and Johnson said specifically a point guard. No way that Uzoh makes the team if the Nets sign a veteran point guard…unless they trade TWill.

by Net Income on Jul 20, 2010 11:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Can't expect Avery to say anything other than what he did about Petro and Zoubek? Doesn't mean he believes it.

Billy King is a pretty good judge of talent and I believe was part of the pre-draft evaluation team in Chicago that was on NBATV.
King may have more ideas than Avery.

Nets have so many draft picks in coming years. They will have opportunity to get a better backup Center/Big with those picks. Unless they feel that Zoubek has big upside, then it makes more sense to get a cheap Vet. for that position at this time (who might be a backup Four too), or else use some draft pick(s) and get a better young Big now.

by jerry25 on Jul 21, 2010 12:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

The Nets gave them money

money speaks louder than words…and the Nets have invested in them. They wanted to make they got them. They signed them before the summer league, not after, as well.

and as for the line, “doesnt mean he beleives it”, other than suggesting the coach is a liar, it also takes a negative spin. He could very well believe it and the fact that he chose to say it, when he didn’t have to say it, when he wasn’t specifically asked about Zoubek…he volunteered it….would indicate he did believe it.

The only one spinning here is you.

by Net Income on Jul 21, 2010 1:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

Well then if we believe everything spoken, then Avery appears to have boxed himself into a corner ...

because he has also correctly indicated that present team would have difficult time making the playoffs, since there are about 6 teams you know will make it. And he repeated that his Boss wanted to make playoffs this year and we know that Avery plays to win every game.

So I have to conclude that Avery is in a pickle if he doesn’t make some player improvements, beyond an Anthony Johnson type (which would mean dropping Uzoh, who could have a future in NBA and some trade value).

If Avery really wants to make his boss (and himself) happy, then he will have get King to dip into the draft picks and cap space (and ignore Thorn’s warnings) and go for a proven Big like Troy Murphy and maybe a 2nd Big. That would only mean that Nets would lose the cap flexibility until end of season, when Murphy’s 12 million comes off the books.

Nets would have a chance for playoffs with these players at 4/5:

Lopez, Murphy, Favors, Hump, Gallon (or similar beast) and Petro. That group of 6 could survive some injuries during the season and Murphy could be dropped after season, if necessary.

And if we believe everything that Avery says, then we also have to accept his word that he doesn’t want to put pressure on Favors during his first year.

by jerry25 on Jul 21, 2010 7:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

How has he "boxed himself in a corner"

The goal is the playoffs, but Avery is tempering expectations. It will be a tough goal, even if it is what they are shooting for, the number one goad right now is growth.

by gsloots on Jul 21, 2010 7:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

Noone expects Nets to win more than 30-35 games with present team. And that is optimistic.

And goal is playoffs with growth, not just growth. Some Nets fans don’t care if Nets make playoffs, but the BOSS DOES care – he promised it.

And for those who want to “take off” one more year to get top draft pick, the way it usually works is you need to have a taste of playoffs first, before having the chance to advance the subsequent year.

And remember that a team like Chicago (who Nets beat 2x last year) ended up just making playoffs and were able to convince the media and free agents that they were a good “core” team. Making the playoffs was important, even though they lost in first round. If that means sacrificing cap flexibility for 1 season and some 2nd round draft picks they won’t need, then that sounds like a reasonable risk.

People talk about some superstar coming to Nets over next 7 months without any sound basis.

Bottom line is that Nets CAN make playoffs, but they have to sacrifice something to get there.

by jerry25 on Jul 21, 2010 8:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

I think the boss is just rrying to promot the product

I really think that Prokhorov only cares about getting the product ready for Brooklyn. He realizes that they aren’t a win now team, he’s just trying to save face for his bold predictions.

by gsloots on Jul 21, 2010 8:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

Maybe another note will appear saying Nets won't win championship in 5 years afterall.

In that case, maybe he should have settled for hoping to be a top 5 “elite” team. That would mean he should have recruited David Lee afterall, and paid the few million extra over 5 years. They may be regretting that decision already – but will never admit it – except on a napkin.

by jerry25 on Jul 21, 2010 10:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

Murphy is injury Prone...

WHEN he gets hurt Favors will be forced to start anyway.

The NETS are coming!

by MrBDown on Jul 21, 2010 12:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'll take that chance, but my guess is Avery would start Hump ahead of Favors, until the time is right.

Actually Troy Murphy has played in 68-75 games for each of the last 6 years. And he started most of the time.

Indiana must like him a lot, but at this time they may be looking to develop new talent, such as Tyler Hansbrough.

Here are Troy’s stats:

http://www.nba.com/playerfile/troy_murphy/career_stats.html

by jerry25 on Jul 21, 2010 3:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Are you serious?

I guess there has never been posturing done in professional sports? Coaches, GM’s, etc., have never talked up players without full conviction behind it? Maybe Avery is hedging in case this is the army he as to go to war with, he wants them to know the General has confidence.

For you to take it to a black and white level like liar makes every positive comment you have said about Rod Thorns ability to play “poker” a contradiction.

I know it’s your site but sometimes you say foolish things.

by NetProfit on Jul 21, 2010 10:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

Lin

Kid can drive to basket and pass. He’ll most likely start if he improves.

by Zartan on Jul 20, 2010 10:29 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

so proud

I don’t think I’ve ever been prouder as an Asian American than when jlin owned wall(to a degree) and took over the crowd and Chris webber

by tian17 on Jul 20, 2010 10:33 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

That was the game that got him that deal IMO he made wall look foolish

Since the face been revealed the game got real

by BL3ACH on Jul 20, 2010 10:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

LOL, if you guys are scared of Billy King,

Just be glad you are not the TBlazers.
Just watched the first 2 minutes of the new GM Rich Cho press conference.
I was half way out on my ledge when my dog reminded me I was not a Portland fan.
I am relieved.

by Jron on Jul 20, 2010 10:45 PM EDT reply actions  

damn yea.. i’d love to have lin be on our team. he’s been under-rated every step of his career.

by swampass on Jul 20, 2010 11:19 PM EDT reply actions  

I wish we got Lin, too. But it's not like the Nets have any scouts

I am really angry we wasted 3 years with “the Yi player” that sad excuse for a 7ft’r

by 3ptChucker on Jul 20, 2010 11:31 PM EDT reply actions  

they have plenty of scouts

they didnt touch the college scouts or international scouts. they dumped the advance scout, the guy who went to opponents games immediately before they played the Nets.

by Net Income on Jul 21, 2010 1:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

I think I read somewhere that he was the only california state player of the year ever, not to receive any D1 offers/scholarships.

by swampass on Jul 21, 2010 11:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

And you'd think Lin would be just the kind of kid Avery could connect with

Being under-rated and undrafted from obscure program. Oh well, leave it up to Nellie to sign these guys like Morrow, and hoefully we’ll pick them up next time around.

by 3ptChucker on Jul 20, 2010 11:34 PM EDT reply actions  

Yeah we really need to step our scouting department up

Thats hopefully where Proky’s money comes into play.

by Atronic on Jul 20, 2010 11:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah, that James kid

who we picked up late was poorly scouted.

by Net Income on Jul 21, 2010 1:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

Nets have history of picking up kids who fall in draft

That’s totally different from spotting talent where others don’t see it. So, as I said, Nets don’t have great scouts.

by 3ptChucker on Jul 21, 2010 1:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

The Nets didn't wait for James to fall to them

They made a move, and got him because they saw serious value in him. And people are here moaning about trading the 31st pick and not using it to draft some fat pig named Tiny

"No one stands on the top of the world. Not you, not me, not even gods. But the unbearable vacancy of the throne in the sky is over. From now on...I will be sitting on it."

by MrDollarBills on Jul 21, 2010 3:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

A senior from a big-time college program?

Not quite the same as a guy playing for Harvard.
You know you have a good scouting department when they can find talented players from lesser known programs.

by Handsomelad on Jul 21, 2010 1:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

Ish Smith from Wake Forrest looked like an NBA player to me.

Agree on Sylven and Samuels. Samhan will do really well in Europe. I’d take Smith over any of the PGs listed, including Lin.

by milosh on Jul 21, 2010 12:07 AM EDT reply actions  

Zou-blech

Maybe I’ll be wrong.
But he just seems too slow to stay on the floor at the NBA level for more than a few possessions while he gets abused on defense. I guess he can be a backup to the backup at the 5 and emergency 4, which would be a disaster.

by NetsJetsFan on Jul 21, 2010 6:23 PM EDT reply actions  

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