Danny Ferry and Billy King Interviewing Tuesday
by NetsDaily on Jul 13, 2010 3:13 PM EDT
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PrintAdrian Wojnarowski reports that "Danny Ferry and Billy King have emerged as finalists for president's job with Nets and both interviewing with team Tuesday." Both Ferry and King will be meeting with Mikhail Prokhorov, who is in New York after flying from the Board of Governors meetings in Las Vegas.
This is the first time that Ferry's name has been associated with the Nets' front office opening, though he has interviewed for the Portland job. He was the general manager in Cleveland for five seasons before being resigning in June. He put together the Cavs team that went to the Finals in 2007 and the ones that finished with the league's best record each of the last two seasons. Before moving to Cleveland, he spent two seasons in the Spurs' front office.
No decision is expected Tuesday and there is no deadline for one, a Nets insider said.
- Ferry, King interviewing for Nets job - Adrian Wojnarowski - Yahoo!
- The Nets' next Pres-GM: Billy King and/or Danny Ferry? - Dave D'Alessandro - Nets Blast
- Danny Ferry Transaction History - HoopsHype
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(Sigh.)
Sometimes I feel that they don’t want or feel that they need a strong force in the front office. The “vision” is coming from somewhere else.
"...where they don't play with a shot clock." - C. Sager
I LOVE YOU THORN
THANKS…sigh
"We’re the new Nets. We’re leaving the old behind and we’re in with the new. Hopefully LeBron is going to be a part of that."
-Coach Avery Johnson.
NO!!! to Ferry & King
What happened to Presti & Pritchard???
presti was never an option
why can’t people get that?
by Taylor Bartle on Jul 13, 2010 1:16 PM EDT up reply actions
Ferry is better than King...
Ferry President and Marks as GM. Not horrible.
Still do not know why Pritchard has been eliminated.
by rundmc00 on Jul 13, 2010 11:50 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Pritchard was reported a couple of times...
Including today from Bondy.
Ferry is not horrible as president. Marks will be GM.
Cho or Penn could not be President and Marks is a nice fit for GM and knows the organization.
Hey Netsdaily, which GM candidate are you referring to?
From your comment "Don’t think he was ever on the list. ", are you referring to Presti or Pritchard?
Pritchard
There was one report that he had an interview, but it was denied shortly thereafter. It seems he was never a candidate.
NetsDaily.com
Wow
talk about being stupid. The guy is a GM’ing stud and we don’t even sit down with him?
Typical!!!!
"No one stands on the top of the world. Not you, not me, not even gods. But the unbearable vacancy of the throne in the sky is over. From now on...I will be sitting on it."
by MrDollarBills on Jul 13, 2010 12:15 PM EDT up reply actions
I dont want to hate on Rod Thorn
After all he has done for our franchise but he is really screwing over our franchise by leaving at the wrong time
I don't buy
his arguments that he just want to leave. There mush be serious than that if he wants to leave and find a job somewhere else……
Someone had a theory on the forum side that actually made sense.
Thorn is choosing the best guys who are unattainable like Presti and the worst possible guys like King and Ferry in order to guide Proky towards choosing Marks.
He won’t be satisfied with King or Ferry in comparison to Presti so Marks will be the only adequate option.
Marks will be GM
The hire is for President.
Why the Ferry hate?
He has been okay for the Cavs.
agreed
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by John Gennaro on Jul 13, 2010 11:56 AM EDT up reply actions
Who knows what went down with Pritchard and Paul Allen...
Billionaires talk you know.
Yes
And given Pritchard’s sudden exit from Portland, it’s possible that he’s being blackballed.
good point
he sure hasn’t gotten a lot of love from ANY team currently searching for a GM
by Taylor Bartle on Jul 13, 2010 1:18 PM EDT up reply actions
Ferry is not a bad hire
But please say no to Billy King
by Fabio Villani on Jul 13, 2010 11:55 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
GM v. President
Who does what? Who is in charge?
GM works the phones, President works the owner. President is “in charge”.
Bolts from the Blue - Destroying your opinions with facts.
by John Gennaro on Jul 13, 2010 11:57 AM EDT up reply actions
In Kiki
we trust! Bring back his roommate Yi too…lol!
fallen angles?
you mean outlaw, farmar, morrow, and petro?
"We’re the new Nets. We’re leaving the old behind and we’re in with the new. Hopefully LeBron is going to be a part of that."
-Coach Avery Johnson.
but he also was in love
with Yi and his never growing talent….at this point we might as well start fresh, bring some new blood in there…I know Devin harris and Lopez has to be pissed at the current team we have right now! I would be…
i never understood the kiki hate
i only hated him as coach…
"We’re the new Nets. We’re leaving the old behind and we’re in with the new. Hopefully LeBron is going to be a part of that."
-Coach Avery Johnson.
BREAKING NEWS:
NetsDaily has just been informed that just hours after Kiki Vandeweghe was hired by the Nets, he has orchestrated his first trade.
Brook Lopez will be sent to the Washington Wizards for… Yi Jianlian.
More to come soon.
lol!
Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!
Fortunately
Yi cannot be traded within three months if I’m not mistaken :)
if kiki was here we wouldnt have given yi away for nothing
"We’re the new Nets. We’re leaving the old behind and we’re in with the new. Hopefully LeBron is going to be a part of that."
-Coach Avery Johnson.
from a business standpoint
Yi served a purpose. He put some fans in the stands, probably sold a few jerseys and made the Nets marketable for the most populous nation on Earth. financially, it was a good move.
Horrible News
I don’t understand why Pritchard isn’t in the mix. Ferry and Pritchard would be ok but King? That guy signed Mutombo when he was what 55. LOL
Ferry
Ferry would be a great hire. REALLY smart guy, who only quit Cleveland after having to cowtow for LeBron James for years… Pritchard probably wanted too much control. His ego and Avery’s personality may not have meshed….
by mattrinity on Jul 13, 2010 12:13 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Danny Ferry
had lebron
"We’re the new Nets. We’re leaving the old behind and we’re in with the new. Hopefully LeBron is going to be a part of that."
-Coach Avery Johnson.
(Insert name of any free agent or candidate for front office position)
Generic NetsDaily Poster Response: Nooooooooo!
by Joe Uras on Jul 13, 2010 12:15 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
scary but I am starting to think a generic NetsDaily poster has more smarts than the people running the show for the Nets.
WE ARE THE BEST GM'S ON THE PLANET
"No one stands on the top of the world. Not you, not me, not even gods. But the unbearable vacancy of the throne in the sky is over. From now on...I will be sitting on it."
by MrDollarBills on Jul 13, 2010 12:18 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
lol
it wouldnt be a bad idea for the nets to hire someone to read our posts…
some ideas i hear here arent all that bad
"We’re the new Nets. We’re leaving the old behind and we’re in with the new. Hopefully LeBron is going to be a part of that."
-Coach Avery Johnson.
but then some are lol
"We’re the new Nets. We’re leaving the old behind and we’re in with the new. Hopefully LeBron is going to be a part of that."
-Coach Avery Johnson.
Why cant we go after Pritchard or Colangelo?
Aren’t they better candidates for the nets?
exactly
come on ROD
"No one stands on the top of the world. Not you, not me, not even gods. But the unbearable vacancy of the throne in the sky is over. From now on...I will be sitting on it."
by MrDollarBills on Jul 13, 2010 12:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Thorn and Avery must have a short list
Avery must have a big part in all this…. the little general wants to be the big general…. which i dont mind so much
by blazin pp face on Jul 13, 2010 12:18 PM EDT up reply actions
which is absurd
I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson
Ferry
…is not that bad though I question whether his decision to sign Anderson Varejao until like 2016(i’m exaggerating) was done by himself or was done to appease Queen James
Whatever. We want GM’ing studs, Thorn is interviewing a bunch of herbs. Oh well.
"No one stands on the top of the world. Not you, not me, not even gods. But the unbearable vacancy of the throne in the sky is over. From now on...I will be sitting on it."
Ferry’s trade for Jamison really shot the Cavs in the foot. Left them with no real flexibility this offseason.
They were desparate to bring in some troops for LBJ...
I think Ferry has drafted well and I have always heard that he is a really smart guy.
Same. Both the Varejao and Jamison signings/moves were done at the behest of the Queen, from what I’m led to believe.
As for Ferry as a potential hire – I like it. I really do. I’m not sure what other moves he could have made to actually make the Cavs a better team. I mean, granted, LeBron never had a real “Pippen” while he was there, but that team worked. Its W/L record is testament to that.
As for KP – I, like everybody, would LOVE him to sign with us. If he doesn’t though, there’s obviously a good reason… You don’t look past him otherwise.
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that was a desperation move
I can’t fault Ferry for that. You can’t blame someone for making desperate all or nothing moves when their franchise is being held hostage by a person who they should have never bent over backwards for in the first place. Lebron treated them like a spoiled girlfriend whose boyfriend allowed her to walk all over him until one day she walked right out the door.
Was Phoenix REALLY going to give CLE Amare for JJ Hickson? I doubt it.
Ferry was screwed either way. I really can’t blame him for CLE’s demise, he had no flexibility and was making dumb moves at the owner’s behest to appease the queen
"No one stands on the top of the world. Not you, not me, not even gods. But the unbearable vacancy of the throne in the sky is over. From now on...I will be sitting on it."
by MrDollarBills on Jul 13, 2010 12:26 PM EDT up reply actions
Varejao
is signed for 4 more years for 32.2 million (7 million this year with raises of 700k each year) with a team option for 5th year for 9.8 million.
I’d think that if he was a free agent this year he’d get in excess of 32 million for 4 years, as Tyrus Thomas got 40 mill for 5 years.
I’m not sure of the history of this deal, as how long it was when signed, but as of today it doesn’t look so bad…
the number is manageable
but the amount of years is still laughable.
"No one stands on the top of the world. Not you, not me, not even gods. But the unbearable vacancy of the throne in the sky is over. From now on...I will be sitting on it."
by MrDollarBills on Jul 13, 2010 12:33 PM EDT up reply actions
OT but...
RIP George Steinbrenner. Just an absolute beast of an owner
"No one stands on the top of the world. Not you, not me, not even gods. But the unbearable vacancy of the throne in the sky is over. From now on...I will be sitting on it."
RIP If you’ve ever watched the Yankeeography on him you can see just how much he impacted the franchise and its fans.
I’ll miss him. The Yanks have to win this year for George.
Hopefully Mikahail will be able to have a quarter of the same impact on the Nets.
if Mikhail can have even 25% of the impact The Boss had...
…he will be revered as a god.
a god who parties with models in turkey
"No one stands on the top of the world. Not you, not me, not even gods. But the unbearable vacancy of the throne in the sky is over. From now on...I will be sitting on it."
by MrDollarBills on Jul 13, 2010 12:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Danny Ferry is one of the the worst GM’s league..who did he surround Lebron with? Mo Williams, Delonte West, Boobie Gibson, Varejo, 38 year old Shaq..in 7 years Lebron’s best player was Jamison..Ferry is horrible and so is King..its like thorn wants 2 make sure his successor is horrible..
by Holden Caulfield718 on Jul 13, 2010 12:27 PM EDT reply actions
I disagree...you aren't looking at the situation on the ground
When the book is written about the past 7 years in Cleveland, I think it will show who had a hand in those decisions. Queen James
Varejao getting that insane contract was because of Lebron. Lebron is close with Varejao, I remember explicitly at the time Varejao was holding out and the Cavs were scrambling to get the deal done because he was one of Lebron’s favorites.
"No one stands on the top of the world. Not you, not me, not even gods. But the unbearable vacancy of the throne in the sky is over. From now on...I will be sitting on it."
by MrDollarBills on Jul 13, 2010 12:31 PM EDT up reply actions
he wasn't really given a choice having to pander to Lebron
rather than build slowly, regardless meh.
I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson
Jamison Trade
Was made solely at LeBron’s request. Ferry had a trade in place for Amare that LeBron rejected and LeBron came back and insisted on Jamison.
this
"No one stands on the top of the world. Not you, not me, not even gods. But the unbearable vacancy of the throne in the sky is over. From now on...I will be sitting on it."
by MrDollarBills on Jul 13, 2010 12:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Show me a link
I don’t believe this is true
google my friend
Ken Berger of CBSSports.com says that LeBron James is the driving force behind the Cavs’ renewed interest in Antawn Jamison.
Ken Berger of CBSSports.com says that LeBron James is the driving force behind the Cavs’ renewed interest in Antawn Jamison.
It’s been well documented that the Cavaliers’ infatuation with Antawn Jamison has been rekindled. What’s been underplayed is the reason behind it: LeBron James is the one driving the team’s pursuit of Jamison, according to a source, and Cavs GM Danny Ferry – as usual – is trying to appease the King. A couple of problems: The Wizards want a young asset in return, and Zydrunas Ilgauskas – while a fit salary-wise – doesn’t fit that description. The sensible piece to include in the deal would be J.J. Hickson, whom the Cavs are reluctant to give up. But if the Cavs got Jamison, what value would Hickson be to them as their fifth big man? One scenario that is believed to be under discussion would have the Cavs hoping the Wizards bought out Ilgauskas after the trade, using some cash added to the deal by Cleveland. That way, the Cavs could sign Ilgauskas back on a minimum deal, giving them the player James covets (Jamison) and a 7-foot-4 insurance policy for Shaquille O’Neal. The Wizards would have to ask themselves if getting out from under Jamison’s contract and adding Hickson is enough to justify a deal that would get them under the tax next summer, but not under the cap.
If the Cavs can’t get Jamison, Indiana’s Troy Murphy is Plan B. And yes, there’s a Plan C — Andre Iguodala. Whereas the Cavs’ front office believes Jamison could help them win a championship this year, Iguodala would be more of a long-term solution. And he better be, with four years and $56 million left on his deal.
the source is a blog but the original quote was from an article from cbssports.com
I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson
at this point
I think the Nets have thrown in the towel and realized that we are probably going to be in the stupid lottery again next year, so they are talking or interviewing anyone that will take the job…ehhhh
so dissappionting…
It is very hard to judge Ferry
It would be a ho-hum hire. Almost his entire tenure with the Cavs was spent trying to keep Lebron at bay. He really didn’t make any moves that are easy to judge his performance. I think we need to keep in mind that there is more than just one person who runs an organization. The staff that Ferry puts around him will be important.
Trying to think from a Prokhorov business perspective, it would be better to put a well-connected, bright, young exec who can be paid on the cheap and surrounding him with some of the up-and-comers in NBA circles.
Does Danny Ferry have a good idea what good young execs are out there? He did begin his career in the Spurs front office. Maybe Ferry goes out and hires some of the best from the Spurs and Thunder that he knew from SA. Maybe the thought is that Pritchard wants total control and does not let the people under him perform their roles.
Prokhorov is said to believe in this hierarical system of management. We have to remember that the Nets are going to undergo a major overhaul. Keeping Marks as GM means that they will keep what they believe is the best talent with the Nets.
How come we couldn't
get Al Jefferson?!?!?!? This offseason just keeps getting worse and worse….
Al Jefferson is a shell of his former self
and I think he’s on the books for 3 more years for nearly the max…haven’t had a chance to check hoopshype but no.
And, he is not a good fit next to Lopez because he is a garbage defender.
"No one stands on the top of the world. Not you, not me, not even gods. But the unbearable vacancy of the throne in the sky is over. From now on...I will be sitting on it."
by MrDollarBills on Jul 13, 2010 12:35 PM EDT up reply actions
oh ok,
who do you think would be a good fit next to brook then? Amare and Boozer would have been perfect…oh well
the perfect compliment for Brook
is a guy that can defend, rebound, block shots, hit the short mid range J, and finish strong in the paint. Stoudemire and Boozer are a)too old to max out for PFs and b)they don’t defend or block shots, and stoudemire doesn’t rebound or block shots.
Hopefully, that guy who will compliment Brook is the one who is wearing #14 for the Nets.
"No one stands on the top of the world. Not you, not me, not even gods. But the unbearable vacancy of the throne in the sky is over. From now on...I will be sitting on it."
by MrDollarBills on Jul 13, 2010 12:50 PM EDT up reply actions
for Defense?
Amare doesn’t care about defense and Boozer wasn’t particularly good on D either.
by NotSoSilentBob on Jul 13, 2010 4:40 PM EDT up reply actions
because he'd be a horrible fit for us
I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson
Ferry and King are horrible
Lebron did not soley request Jamison he was the option over troy murphy..Ferry had the best player in the NBA and gave him Antwain Jamison as his best player he’s ever played with..this is a joke
by Holden Caulfield718 on Jul 13, 2010 12:33 PM EDT reply actions
and you know that ................how?
not that the other side is true either but just curious
I would hope you would support who we are. Not, who we are not. Coach Norman Dale "Hoosiers"
by dmitchell624 on Jul 13, 2010 12:34 PM EDT up reply actions
you know what's a joke
The current state of the New Jersey Nets!
explain to me sir...
…what did you expect Ferry to bring in there? The team had ZERO assets. They were lucky to get Mo Williams to be honest with you. Their picks are worthless and their only tradeable asset was JJ Hickson.
You guys aren’t looking at the situation realistically. This is not NBA 2K11 where you can bamboozle a computer.
"No one stands on the top of the world. Not you, not me, not even gods. But the unbearable vacancy of the throne in the sky is over. From now on...I will be sitting on it."
by MrDollarBills on Jul 13, 2010 12:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Ferrys not bad
He made some good moves there and probably made others he didn’t want to make to please Bron Bron. We could do worse than Ferry, and sadly, we just may. Unfortunately, seems like we will downgrade from Thorn.
Thorn shouldn't be involved in this hire
Proky is nuts if he hires King or promotes Marks. Marks has no track record. Also, not crazy about Ferry – this team needs KP.
Lebron wants a ring.. that should be more obvious now than ever before..no way he says “look Danny I want Jamison over Amare”..Amare was really never available then..it was more Murphy or Jamison..Ferry is more responsible for Lebron leaving than anything else..Ferry was truly a horrible GM..if these reports are true please tell me why would any owner let an outgoing GM president who obviously still wants 2 work choose his successor? of course he’s not going 2 pick the best available..I know I’d pick Ferry or King 2 make sure I look like a genius compared 2 my replacement..Jamison! that was Lebron’s best teammate in 7 years!!..Kobe had Shaq in his prime, Lamar Odom,Pau Gasol, Ron Artest,Derrick Fisher, and Bynum..Bron had Jamison..cmon this cant be that hard too see
by Holden Caulfield718 on Jul 13, 2010 12:43 PM EDT reply actions
tell me
What assets did Ferry have to trade?
Respond to my question before you push Ferry’s head underneath the bus tires any further, please.
"No one stands on the top of the world. Not you, not me, not even gods. But the unbearable vacancy of the throne in the sky is over. From now on...I will be sitting on it."
by MrDollarBills on Jul 13, 2010 12:51 PM EDT up reply actions
also
Bron could have had Artest or Ariza as well but no one wanted to go to Cleveland because they knew Lebron was going to leave.
And the Lakers gave up a solid player in Marc Gasol to get Pau back. Who did Cleveland have to trade? What picks did they have?
You’re just talking about how Ferry didn’t bring in an all star team without addressing the reality of that situation. That team was handicapped badly
"No one stands on the top of the world. Not you, not me, not even gods. But the unbearable vacancy of the throne in the sky is over. From now on...I will be sitting on it."
by MrDollarBills on Jul 13, 2010 12:54 PM EDT up reply actions
Really, it was all downhill with that maxed out Larry Hughes contract he handed out. From that point on, they were always playing with a capped out roster with little young talent to work with.
actually, i’m not even sure Ferry was there when the Hughes contract was given. If so, not much Ferry could really do.
yeah I don't know if Ferry was the GM when that deal was handed out
"No one stands on the top of the world. Not you, not me, not even gods. But the unbearable vacancy of the throne in the sky is over. From now on...I will be sitting on it."
by MrDollarBills on Jul 13, 2010 1:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Hmm
Anyone else shocked Colangelo not even getting a call? Wasn’t Prokhy all about the splashy hires, restoring credibility to the franchise? What happenned to all that? Splash only comes in the form of oversized billboards these days?
Starting to wonder if Proky's money matters until...
…the team finally moves to Brooklyn.
It just seems like no amount of money will draw first-options to the Nets.
Maybe I’m oversimplifying the situation, but it just seems like the Nets have had a series top-tier candidates on and off the court say no thanks.
who’s fault than is it if their only tradeable asset was Hickson??Lebrons?..Ferry was one of the worst Gm’s right up there with McHale and Kahn..
by Holden Caulfield718 on Jul 13, 2010 12:47 PM EDT reply actions
Ferry is a GM that fielded...
….an NBA Finalist and the team with the league’s best record for two years running
You aren’t making a very convincing argument for your opinion bro.
"No one stands on the top of the world. Not you, not me, not even gods. But the unbearable vacancy of the throne in the sky is over. From now on...I will be sitting on it."
by MrDollarBills on Jul 13, 2010 12:55 PM EDT up reply actions
with Lebron
that’s like giving someone an 50 point spot and congratulating them for being you 55-54
I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson
I'm not saying Ferry is a stud
I’m saying, I’d take Ferry before that idiot King
and we all know that Ferry was working under circumstances where his authority could have been undermined several times.
"No one stands on the top of the world. Not you, not me, not even gods. But the unbearable vacancy of the throne in the sky is over. From now on...I will be sitting on it."
by MrDollarBills on Jul 13, 2010 1:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Anyone think Rod just doesnt care anymore?
Like I get this feeling that he just can’t wait to leave the Nets on friday.
did his contract expire already?... i think hes taking his own time to find a replacement
"We’re the new Nets. We’re leaving the old behind and we’re in with the new. Hopefully LeBron is going to be a part of that."
-Coach Avery Johnson.
just like he took his time
in signing a free agent…ehhhh smdh!!!!
Um.....
…no. The Nets clearly wanted to land Lebron. Lebron had NO intentions of coming here, and it would have been foolish to go out and max out Boozer or Stoudemire’s worthless behinds if Lebron wasn’t coming here, so the next plan was to add young talent to compliment the young pieces that we already have in place, and Thorn did a fantastic job of doing so.
I know you’re upset, but you have to face facts: No one wants to come here because we smell awful. 12 win teams smell bad. If you wanna root for a team that just goes out to sign people to maxed out deals, 20 million a year, just to say that they did, the Knicks are right down the road, bro.
And i bet that we beat the brakes off of them this year.
"No one stands on the top of the world. Not you, not me, not even gods. But the unbearable vacancy of the throne in the sky is over. From now on...I will be sitting on it."
by MrDollarBills on Jul 13, 2010 12:59 PM EDT up reply actions
Not to mention, if I was a player I'de probally want to see how Newark turns out
Lebron would have sold out Newark no matter what, but if we are a 30 win team it will be interesting to see what kind of support they will get.
yep yep
just one too many strikes against us this year.
We got a Pros column a mile long. But a Cons column that was pretty big too.
Other franchises just don’t have those cons.
As a con, i was listening to ESPN radio the other day. Knicks knicks kNicks KNICKS knICKs. Just one thing after another. Felton, David Lee trade etc. Nets got a passing honorable mention as they had just signed Outlaw (or was it Petro.) Still the red headed stepchild in this marketplace. Gonna take a while to turn that around.
Problem is
that the radio sports-talk shows are in New York, where New Jersey is mostly an afterthought. Aside from NJ’s own 101.5 FM, which doesn’t care much about sports, there’s no big Jersey-centric station in the state.
If you live in central jersey you don't even get Nets fans on TV
How is a team supposed to be successful in a state when half the young kids in the state can’t even see the team on TV. How many fans have the Nets missed out on when their team was better than the Sixers and Knicks with Kidd, because they weren’t on TV?
You can't get the YES Network in central Jersey?
Who is your cable carrier?
That's not really central Jersey
I think of Monmouth, Ocean, Mercer, and maybe Middlesex counties as central jersey> here in monmouth we definitely get YES.
Somerset too!
Is LBI still considered central NJ? I base it on the baseball teams the people root for. My advice to you, get out of Philly. I spent a year and a half there interning. It’s a great city….if you like terrible things.
I get YES on Comcast in Mercer County
and also the Philadelphia station that carries the ‘76ers. If you’re not getting YES on Comcast it might be worth a call to find out why not.
ESPN NY broadcasts from MSG...
… and is the Knicks flagship station, and you expect them to talk about a different team?
ooooh oooh ooooh
I agree I agree…..why should he care our offseason SUCKED! I wouldn’t either, i would cut my losses and bounce…
Ferry
Looks like he put pieces around LBJ to help them get to 60+ wins. But we’re in a different situation here. We’ve got the pieces but lack the superstar to put them around.
We need someone who can draft well and has an eye for talent.
Obviously he’d have to be in a limited capacity, but I think it was Gina who first mentioned Isiah. By no means should he be President or even GM… but in some capacity would be helpful.
Al_Iannazzone
Maybe. Millsap would be better, but AK47 has expiring contract. RT @Andy___H:If Jazz get AL Jeff. do Nets have shot at Kirilenko or Millsap? 4 minutes ago via TweetDeck
"We’re the new Nets. We’re leaving the old behind and we’re in with the new. Hopefully LeBron is going to be a part of that."
-Coach Avery Johnson.
I wouldn't mind that expiring
it would be a huge piece to have if Carmelo ends up getting traded or doesn’t sign that extension.
"No one stands on the top of the world. Not you, not me, not even gods. But the unbearable vacancy of the throne in the sky is over. From now on...I will be sitting on it."
by MrDollarBills on Jul 13, 2010 1:00 PM EDT up reply actions
I like millsap too
Look Jazz want Al Jefferson and Minnesota wants picks…
We can give Jazz Courtney Lee and couople of picks(which could be used by the jazz of get al)
Millsap has a 3yr $20million contract which isnt bad…and jazz dont want a contract like that for a bench player…
"We’re the new Nets. We’re leaving the old behind and we’re in with the new. Hopefully LeBron is going to be a part of that."
-Coach Avery Johnson.
kool
Jazz and Minney just did the trade
Wolves to trade Jefferson to Jazz for future 1st rd pick, 1st rd pick from Mem in Brewer trade and a trade exception, Y! Sports has learned.
"We’re the new Nets. We’re leaving the old behind and we’re in with the new. Hopefully LeBron is going to be a part of that."
-Coach Avery Johnson.
JeVale McGee looks good for Wizards, he put on some weight
Don’t sleep on the young core, they are going to be better than people think.
billy king and danny ferry!
ITS ALL NEW!
*climbs under rock
Ferry is Isiah level bad
not sure what you guys are smoking
Both these options are depressing, here’s to PRAYING that Woj is wrong.
that's quite the statement
Ferry took a decent team and made it a good (but not great) team.
Isiah took a decent team and tossed it in the gutter
by Taylor Bartle on Jul 13, 2010 1:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Not true
Ferry had Lebron and put trash around him for years. That Cavs team minus Lebron is of the worst teams in the NBA. He had one of the easiest jobs having Lebron and didn’t add a single quality player around him.
what would you have done?
"No one stands on the top of the world. Not you, not me, not even gods. But the unbearable vacancy of the throne in the sky is over. From now on...I will be sitting on it."
by MrDollarBills on Jul 13, 2010 1:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Isiah level bad?
Now we’re reaching folks.
"No one stands on the top of the world. Not you, not me, not even gods. But the unbearable vacancy of the throne in the sky is over. From now on...I will be sitting on it."
by MrDollarBills on Jul 13, 2010 1:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Ok I'm beginning to believe something is up...
You’d think with Prokhorov as owner you’d have to beat off guys with stick to work for the team. But it seems that the Nets continue to be the leper the NBA that no one wants to touch.
we have bad breath
"No one stands on the top of the world. Not you, not me, not even gods. But the unbearable vacancy of the throne in the sky is over. From now on...I will be sitting on it."
by MrDollarBills on Jul 13, 2010 1:43 PM EDT up reply actions
What ever is it...
This situation gets curiouser and curiouser. you have to admit. We’ve been link to some big names, but yet somehow they seem to back out.
ferry
hes def a proven Gm and def better than king for sure he would help us out.. for thorn leaving and not retiring i duno what his deal is with that one but tomorrow im sure it will be a huge press conference with outlaw,petro,morrow,and maybe farmer with maybe a new GM also
by Michael Reid Hamilton on Jul 13, 2010 1:28 PM EDT reply actions
sorry...
sorry Michael but the only thing PROVEN about Ferry is that he had the inate ability to anger James enough that the guy left the team! Couldnt come up with a way of putting solid role players in the prime around James (ala Riley’s Lakers, Pop’s Spurs, Jackson’s Bulls, Daly’s Pistons, etc.) is ultimately what cost him his job and the Cavs their star as James said his #1 motivation for leaving is that he basically didn’t think the Cavs had the players to win. So let’s hope Ferry isn’t on his way to NJ or we’re all in trouble…
Name ONE good move Ferry has made or player he brought in during his tenure
by Holden Caulfield718 on Jul 13, 2010 1:36 PM EDT reply actions
seriously?
seriously?
are they so obsessed with finding someone who’s held the gm title that they’re chasing after these guys? I’d rather them just promote Marks. It makes about 400x more sense than hiring one of these guys.
I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson
I mean I understand if they don't want Pritchard
and that Presti and the guy in San Antonio aren’t leaving, but what about execs in their front offices?? Why have we not heard them linked to one guy like that, and instead they seem to be chasing middle of the road gms?
I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson
Yikes
If these are our 2 best choices I’m officially worried. Billy King is an awful GM, mult horrendous contracts, fielded a total of 1 decent team that lost in finals and never made any headway since that in terms of being a winner again, screwed up the whole Allen Iverson thing (who alienates their star player ??). Just yikes. Cmon Nets MUST be smarter than this. No?
And thats a big NYET on Ferry as well. Who couldnt build a 60-win team with LeBron James on it. But he did manage to add some horrendous contracts and some ill advised players to put around him (ask any Cleveland fan how happy they are now about the type of players he surrounded James with). Ainge and Kupchak ran circles around this guy with their draft picks and deals its not even something to joke about.
We need to be nervous now as they’ll probably choose someone in the next few days is my guess. Isn’t there ANYONE else out there they are talking to? I’d almost rather have someone from internal being promoted at this point. Untested yes but at least they don’t already have a horrible track record in front of them…
Again, yikes…
Ainge and Kupchak were regarded as jokes until they both got lucky
with those wink wink trades that put KG in Boston and Gasol in LA.
"No one stands on the top of the world. Not you, not me, not even gods. But the unbearable vacancy of the throne in the sky is over. From now on...I will be sitting on it."
eh Kupchak only bad move
was swapping Butler with Kwame. And with Kobe and Odom on the team he had no real place for Butler anyway.
I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson
people were KILLING Kupchak before the Gasol trade
and yeah, he should have gotten more for Butler.
"No one stands on the top of the world. Not you, not me, not even gods. But the unbearable vacancy of the throne in the sky is over. From now on...I will be sitting on it."
by MrDollarBills on Jul 13, 2010 1:47 PM EDT up reply actions
killing him for what?
people who were killing him were stupid lakers fans who didn’t understand why he wouldn’t trade andrew bynum for Jason Kidd…how did that one turn out? Lakers fans are short sighted win now morons, them killing him isn’t really much of an argument.
I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson
they were killing him regardless
and honestly, I didn’t think that he was that great of a GM until the Gasol deal anyway.
"No one stands on the top of the world. Not you, not me, not even gods. But the unbearable vacancy of the throne in the sky is over. From now on...I will be sitting on it."
by MrDollarBills on Jul 13, 2010 3:43 PM EDT up reply actions
not to mention how is that an argument for these guys
it’s okay to hire a horrible gm because there’s an off chance he’ll get lucky and not run us into the ground? Ask most Boston fans how they feel about Ainge right now. He’s planning on retiring next year so he’s resigned Allen and Pierce and saddled them with terrible contracts in order to have one last attempt before he retires, when most Celtics fans, and really anyone who saw how old they looked this season, wanted a rebuilding effort around Rondo. Now he’s screwing them over for years by the time these new contracts expire, Rondo’s extension will also expire, leaving them with nothing to build around if he walks, and if he doesn’t they’ll have to build around him later in his career signed to a much bigger deal.
So how is him getting lucky relate to us signing one of these guys?
I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson
Most Boston fans wanted a complete rebuild, when they were a quarter away from taking home the championship? I doubt that highly. Boston should do what they did – give it another shot while Pierce is still Pierce and Allen and KG still have something left.
thats the thing
Pierce isn’t still pierce, and those guys have virtually nothing left. Maybe some of the bandwagon fans want to give it another try, but most of the fans I know who had to live through years of Ainge’s ineptitude see he’s going to be running them back into the ground with these long contracts and they’ll end up right back where they started when they had an opportunity to rebuild around Rondo.
I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson
laughably absurd. Ainge has been fantastic. Leave it to Boston fans to want to hate on someone who has brought them so much success. They are still a top 5 team. And any fans that want to start over now must have rocks in their heads.
Ainge has been fantastic?
um what? For 5-6 years they were miserable under him, then He got lucky the big 3 and got lucky with Rando, and that was it. Once Posey left he couldn’t figure out how to replace him, he never found adequate role players, Perkins and Allen were already there, after the first year.
And the only reason he had to make the trades for the big 3 was because the year before he had traded Brandon Roy for Sebastian Telfair and the fans were likely going to storm the office and set him on fire if they had another losing season. He just got incredibly lucky that 2 big name players wanted out.
I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson
yeah he's still a medicore gm
would you want him to be gm here? How do you think it would turn out with no superstars clamoring to be traded to him?
I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson
I should have guessed you’d have bad things to say about Ainge, a guy who took over a moribound franchise and got them a title. Of course, he got ‘lucky’ with the big 3. Why, was it luck, because it doesn’t support your argument that he sucks?
And its actually the big four. And he traded for a pick in the draft to get Rondo. And he was only able to trade for KG because he had drafted well in years past. And Allen was a strategic move to entice KG. It was very intelligent. His second round draft picks, i.e. Gomes, Big Baby, and Powe, have also been excellent.
um drafted well in the past years?
Al Jefferson and ??? he got KG because KG wanted to play with Pierce and Minnesota had virtually no other options. Name some of these quality draft picks in the prior years outside of Jefferson?
and powe has been excellent??? Powe never broke 15 minutes a game for them.
I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson
And the main reason they made the trades
was because they hadn’t drafted well in the past years. Before it happened Bill Simmons had a series of articles about how miserable their “young talent” had been up to that point and how awful the Brandon Roy for Telfair trade was. Once they weren’t guaranteed a top 2 pick fans were ready to riot because they knew unless they had the choice between two sure things it was going to be a terrible draft.
I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson
Ainge made a big error in Roy, but his draft record in excellent otherwise. So much homegrown talent as a result of Ainge.
Really?
Gerald Green, Marcus Banks those guys are excellent? Pierce wasn’t drafted by him. He wasn’t hired till 2003.
I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson
Green was excellent value from a talent perspective where they drafted him. He was included in the KG deal IIRC. I guess you will bring up any draft pick that did not turn out well to support your argument that Ainge blows. Didnt realize that the standrard from being a good GM was hitting on every draft pick over a 7 year period. This guy got Big Baby, Gomes, Powe in the second round. Rondo and Al Jeff in the latter part of the first. Tony Allen, Delonte West at end of first. He has a strong eye for talent.
um it was luck
because it was an improbable event unlikely to ever repeat itself and pretty much everything he’s done outside of that has been terrible. What else would it have been? Did you pay attention to that season? Everyone knew they were trying to tank for Oden/Durant and then got screwed over by the lottery and fans were in an uproar. Do you think he knew KG and Allen were going to be moving that summer and planned all around it? He’s basically had one good year, the year he traded for them, surrounded by 7 mediocre ones. What exactly is there to point to towards him being a quality gm outside of those two trades?
I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson
The success he has had speaks for itself. He chose Rivers as coach. He drafted Rondo. He kept Pierce when many were clamoring to trade him. He brought in KG, he brought in Allen, and worked the Allen trade to maintain enough flexibility to bring in KG. He drafted well, the Roy misstep obviously an error. He is a fine GM. Would take him in a heartbeat.
Ray Allen signed a 2 year contract which is perfect for Boston. Ainge also signed Rondo during the season instead of waiting for this summer, which probably saved them about 30 million dollars. And I think Pierce signed a 4 year deal, he will have value throughout that contract. Signed up Rivers again also. Ainge has done great work on his way out.
Well...
RIGHT! Thats the whole point. You only need 1 great move to be considered a top GM and to bring a title to your franchise. Kupchak and Ainge did it while Ferry – despite having 5 full years to do something special – did not! That certainly goes to his ability to pull in top free agents or draft well. Name one good draft pick other than crazy curls (and he is quite the average big man in the league I might add) that Ferry picked up? There have been many many many very good players chosen at bottom of round 1 (where Cavs have been picking) and in round 2 so you can’t tell me that after all these drafts he couldnt have pulled AT LEAST 1 gem.
well to be fair
Ferry didn’t have an ex teammate collude with him to send a hall of famer to their old stomping ground
"No one stands on the top of the world. Not you, not me, not even gods. But the unbearable vacancy of the throne in the sky is over. From now on...I will be sitting on it."
by MrDollarBills on Jul 13, 2010 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions
I would much rather A "New" gu or Colangelo But...
As its being stated… We ARE THE NETS! I’m very dissapointed by this term of events and I feel like there is more to this Thorn story that we will all find out in his up and coming book. The reasons as to why he is leaving etc are all LAME. He obviously wants another job. I think Proky rubbed him wrong in some way.
The NETS are coming!
Still waiting on Ferry's ONE good move
for those who think Ferry is a good GM..name ONE good move or player he brought in to help bring the best player in the NBA a ring..Mo Williams?, boobie Gibson? 38 year old Shaq?, Varejo? Jamison? Delonte West?..Jamison is the best player Lebron has played with that right there speaks volumes..Im surprised Lebron stayed as long as he did..
by Holden Caulfield718 on Jul 13, 2010 2:00 PM EDT reply actions
yeah he didn't pull the trigger because it would have cost Hickson
but then he got Jamison who took all of Hicksons minutes anyway sending Hickson to the end of the bench.
I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson
He got Mo Williams for basically nothing.
He traded Damon Jones and Joe Smith for Williams, and then got Smith back less than a year later.
Williams choked in the playoffs, but he was an All-Star and they don’t have the league’s best record two years in a row without him.
NetsDaily.com
by NetsDaily on Jul 13, 2010 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
recs
exactly
"No one stands on the top of the world. Not you, not me, not even gods. But the unbearable vacancy of the throne in the sky is over. From now on...I will be sitting on it."
by MrDollarBills on Jul 13, 2010 3:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Ferry's best move as Cavs GM...
….was quitting in June. Only a fool would have stayed there to sink with the ship
"No one stands on the top of the world. Not you, not me, not even gods. But the unbearable vacancy of the throne in the sky is over. From now on...I will be sitting on it."
by MrDollarBills on Jul 13, 2010 3:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Even that article whether true or not
does little too support Ferry..that was his only mistake..again Kobe has or had Odom, Gasol, prime Shaq, Artest, Bynum, Fisher and he brings up Delonte West and Mo Williams..thats just laugable
by Holden Caulfield718 on Jul 13, 2010 2:09 PM EDT reply actions
The gm in cleveland
was Lebron James, hot him. Ferry is a good basketball mind..he’s perfect for us. Have an organization with Avery on the court and Danny Ferry president of basketball operations would be awesome.
by Fabio Villani on Jul 13, 2010 2:38 PM EDT up reply actions
wait, didn't Ferry and Avery play together???
"No one stands on the top of the world. Not you, not me, not even gods. But the unbearable vacancy of the throne in the sky is over. From now on...I will be sitting on it."
by MrDollarBills on Jul 13, 2010 3:52 PM EDT up reply actions
I think they were both
on the ’99 Spurs Championship team.
"I want to win now, not 3 years from now. That's my stance." - Kevin Burkhardt
Yeah, the reason I prefer Ferry over King is
We know King is garbage while it’s debatable whether Ferry is garbage because LeBron’s presence and everything that entailed clouds his tenure in Cleveland and makes it difficult to judge.
Nets = Global
Knicks = Local
Are you serious
thats your rebuttal? it was Lebron’s fault?..so you’re saying Lebron told the owner to sign very mediocre players to help him win the one thing he covets most than leaves the team to go play with other star players?..am I following your logic correctly here?
by Holden Caulfield718 on Jul 13, 2010 2:51 PM EDT reply actions
I am pretty sure he lobbied for certain players, I am almost positive he had imput about what players came into the “kingdom” Are you saying Lebron was just as suprised as everyone else when Cleveland made a trade ?
Since the face been revealed the game got real
sounds like the inmates were running the asylum there. Ownership has got to step in, and let the players play, coaches coach, and the general managers generally manage…. Anyway, communication between the factions let them all do their jobs. If they were bowing down to LBJ, thne it was ownership’s and upper managements fault, not Lebrons.
thats my point I don’t want a yes man as a GM we need a guy that will stick to his guns when they are in the thick of it.
Since the face been revealed the game got real
right… but, if the owner tells him to do something it is his team, and therefore no choice… I’m assuming that’s what happened.
The owner seems headstrong. Apparently all the people working for him begged for him not to send that email post Lebron, but he wouldn’t listen. So if you give him good advice, and he doesn’t listen, than who’s fault is that.
I’m not supporting ferry, just not ready to kill him over Cleveland if his hands were tied.
also my point thats when a gm says my reputation is tied to the moves we make, I can sign of on this move and then the gm resigns IMO anyway thats my rule of thumb you as the general manger re responsible for the moves you make and the contracts you sign in 97% of the cases imo.
Since the face been revealed the game got real
I officially lend my support...
To a Ferry/Marks front office.
by rundmc00 on Jul 13, 2010 2:53 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Sooo
Mo Williams and Joe Smith huh.. thats your evidence he’s a capable GM..Oh and for having the best regular season record with the best player in the league..If the Nets get Ferry and Favors turns into a legit star the Nets can look forward to players of Mo Williams and Joe Smith type of talent..oh yeah blueprint for greatness is written all over that one…you actually said Mo Williams and Joe Smith..wow
by Holden Caulfield718 on Jul 13, 2010 3:03 PM EDT reply actions
You asked for one good move.
When you get an All-Star for nothing, it’s a good trade. Simple as that.
NetsDaily.com
and I asked you....
….to tell me: What assets did Danny Ferry have to bring in a pack of all stars to surround LBJ? Aside from Hickson, who or what could have have traded to make a move? Because there’s only so much that you can get with the MLE and CLE isn’t exactly a free agent hot spot
You avoided that question like the plague. Why?
"No one stands on the top of the world. Not you, not me, not even gods. But the unbearable vacancy of the throne in the sky is over. From now on...I will be sitting on it."
by MrDollarBills on Jul 13, 2010 3:57 PM EDT up reply actions
are you serious?
and how exactly did that work out?..Jamal Mcgloire was an All Star as well.. I bet he could be had for nothing..sooo bring in a GM who could not surround the best player in the league with talent enough to get him a ring which makes him bolt for the door in as GM..why do you think Bron did that 3 year option? because he believed so much in the All Star Mo? or boobie Gibson? or was it Varejo? no wait it was Delonte West..my 3rd grader could have given him better talent to play with..Lebron made that team what it was..a 60 win regular season team..which is why year after year they kept losing to teams with better overall talent..Magic and Boston..DHoward was given Rashard, Hedo, and a strong bench..we all know what Boston had in KG ,Ray Allen,Pierce, Big Baby, Rondo..and you bring up Mo Williams and Joe Smith as Ferry’s high points in his tenure wait than there’s Jamison the best player Lebron ever played with..good luck with that one..p.s you see what Ferry’s accomplishments led too..an hour long special showing the best player in team history saying goood byye im on my way 2 south beach..
by Holden Caulfield718 on Jul 13, 2010 3:30 PM EDT reply actions
I think it's been established
that LeBron signed a 3-year deal so he could be a free agent at the same time as Bosh and Wade.
Mo Williams was an all-star WITH the Cavs, not before, so your point about Jamal Magloire is moot.
I’d say building the best team in the NBA is worth something. Hard to win rings when your star player’s mind is already in South Beach during the playoffs, though.
by Taylor Bartle on Jul 13, 2010 3:41 PM EDT up reply actions
exactly
Lebron had checked out 3 years ago. The only thing that he was doing was biding time and manipulating the Cavs front office, just like he tried to manipulate us, NY, and Chicago into jumping off of a bridge for his services.
"No one stands on the top of the world. Not you, not me, not even gods. But the unbearable vacancy of the throne in the sky is over. From now on...I will be sitting on it."
by MrDollarBills on Jul 13, 2010 3:58 PM EDT up reply actions
GM and Basketball Operations is all about relationships
If there was one thing that Kevin Garnett trade to the Celtics and THE DECISION proved, it is that you can’t underestimate the importance of relationships in the NBA. The Garnett deal was all about Kevin McHale helping out his former Celtics buddy Danny Ainge. Miami’s success in landing the Big 3 can be credited to D-Wade and Pat Riley’s reputation and relationship among players. You need guys in either the GM and Basketball Operations positions that have developed solid relationships around the league. Look what the Phoenix Suns are doing – they are actually hiring former player agent, Lon Babby, to become their GM. So before you start crying for Kevin Pritchard because of his awesome track record, you have wonder about what cause his relationship to sour with Paul Allen and why he is being essentially shut out of every GM opening up to this point.
Of the two candidates, Billy King vs. Danny Ferry, I’ll take Danny Ferry since he did a decent job in Cleveland under a great deal of pressure to appease The Clown … I mean The King.
I don’t like what he did in Cleveland but we disagree.
Since the face been revealed the game got real
Again, we can't expect a perfect candidate
Every GM has their flaws. The one thing you have to give Ferry credit for is that he gave Cleveland a fighting chance to win every year despite things looking almost near impossible. The one thing that proves his mettle was how he stood his ground with Varejao’s contract negotiations. Rather than overpay the guy, he held up until Varejao’s agent eventually caved and signed him to reasonable money. He did the same with Sasha Pavlovic.
stellar?
oh yeah even without Lebron that stellar lineup he left them will win 45-50 wins easily..
by Holden Caulfield718 on Jul 13, 2010 3:43 PM EDT reply actions
so if both these guys are interviewing for the president position
does that mean it’s a foregone conclusion that Marks will be GM?
appease lebron?
as GM you surround the best player in the league with star talent..Call Lebron whatever you like but he didnt try and force a trade like Kobe did or bad mouth his team mates like Kobe..he simply left via FA and now he’s the bad guy?..I disagree with the special but certainly not for the reason why he left..he left for more talent..bottom line..it was Ferry’s job to provide that talent..Mo Williams, Delonte West type talent it was caused Bron to leave..
by Holden Caulfield718 on Jul 13, 2010 3:47 PM EDT reply actions
They won 60+ games
I think Ferry did put players around LeBron. The Antawn Jamison signing was praised around the league when he pulled it off. The execution in the playoffs had nothing to do with Ferry. It was the coaching and LeBron’s ability to rise to the challenge.
LeBron’s ability to rise to the challenge.
or lack thereof
by Taylor Bartle on Jul 13, 2010 3:52 PM EDT up reply actions
Just finished reading D'Alessandro's article
and this is heartbreaking. I’d go with Ferry over King, but this is depressing.
Nets = Global
Knicks = Local
not I am not picking between crap and slightly less crap, NEXT
Since the face been revealed the game got real
Reportedly this is the final two
Why can’t they just promote Marks and find a GM? At least that would be safer because it’s a position of less authority (i.e. less opportunity to wreck the place).
Nets = Global
Knicks = Local
Who is Freaking picking these guys?? Is it thorn?? Cause if so he does not have our best intrest in mind IMO
Since the face been revealed the game got real
Thorn is picking the finalists and Prokhorov is making the final selection
or so it seems imo
Nets = Global
Knicks = Local
for real?
the Jamison signing was not all thav praised and for the record jamison was the best player Bron ever played with as far as talent in Cleveland..that right there is scary..and what players did Ferry put around him?..who?..again I ask who? Delonte West? Boobie Gibson? 38 year old Shaq? Varejo? Mo Williams?..while Boston has Rondo, KG, Ray Allen, Glen Davis, Pierce..Lakers and Kobe has or had prime Shaq, Gasol, Artest, Odom, Bynum..you mean to tell me thats what you call talent enough to knock those guys off??..and yet you blame Lebron?..
by Holden Caulfield718 on Jul 13, 2010 3:57 PM EDT reply actions
For the 3rd and final TIME:
What assets did Danny Ferry have to bring in a pack of all stars to surround LBJ? Aside from Hickson, who or what could have have traded to make a move? Because there’s only so much that you can get with the MLE and CLE isn’t exactly a free agent hot spot
"No one stands on the top of the world. Not you, not me, not even gods. But the unbearable vacancy of the throne in the sky is over. From now on...I will be sitting on it."
by MrDollarBills on Jul 13, 2010 4:08 PM EDT up reply actions
Ferry and Avery are former teammates
http://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/SAS/2001.html
The picture becomes clearer.
It’d better to have a GM in here that is already on good terms with Avery. The last thing that we need is a bunch of drama like last year.
"No one stands on the top of the world. Not you, not me, not even gods. But the unbearable vacancy of the throne in the sky is over. From now on...I will be sitting on it."
Hey, while we’re at it, why don’t we get our version of the Three Stooges: Danny Ferry as team president, Mike Brown as general manager, and Avery Johnson as head coach.
by diehardNFFLbarnone on Jul 13, 2010 4:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Dave D said Ferry butchered Varejao and Pavlovic's negotiations?
They were signed to very reasonable money. I don’t know how that can be described as butchered.
60 wins
me, and 3 guys from my local YMCA couldve gotten 60 wins in the East with Lebron..Lebron wants a ring no trophy is ever given for having the best regular season record..its not a hard formula for success..surround your star player with star level talent..ie. Lakers, Boston..surround your star player with Delonte West and boobie gibson you get an hour long have fun in Cleveland special im outta here special on ESPN..
by Holden Caulfield718 on Jul 13, 2010 4:06 PM EDT reply actions
Are you for real?
You really think its that easy given the restrictions with the CBA and all? Shocking ignorance. Ask DWade how easy it was for him after Shaq left. It took Riley to unload 95% of his team to get the Big 3.
sigh
What assets did Danny Ferry have to bring in a pack of all stars to surround LBJ? Aside from Hickson, who or what could have have traded to make a move?
Answer this, or you’re not really saying much at all here bro. And it looks bad that you’ve avoided this question.
This is not NBA Live.
"No one stands on the top of the world. Not you, not me, not even gods. But the unbearable vacancy of the throne in the sky is over. From now on...I will be sitting on it."
by MrDollarBills on Jul 13, 2010 4:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Assests
who’s job is it to acquire those assets? Lebrons? thorn given very limited assests while working with Rat turned Marbs, Kidd, RJ and Vince into nice players..Lakers somehow managed to acquire said assets, Boston as well even Orlando..its called smart drafting and smarter trades..and not tying your money up into very mediocre players wondering why you cant sign star level talent than looking like your clueless when your only star player leaves..not everyone was cut out to be a GM..and not everyone thinks this is NBA live
by Holden Caulfield718 on Jul 13, 2010 4:16 PM EDT reply actions
also thorn
even made the most out of losing Kenyon Martin by flipping that into Vince which turned into a great asset..Ferry is not a good GM bottom line
by Holden Caulfield718 on Jul 13, 2010 4:17 PM EDT reply actions
You're proving my point
even further when you say had Ferry had no assets to work with..thats the very nature of his job..Its like saying you cant blame a pimp for not having any H..(you get the idea only analogy I could think of at moment)..lol..who else your going to blame? the players? the fans? Ferry is simply not a good GM
by Holden Caulfield718 on Jul 13, 2010 4:22 PM EDT reply actions
If Denver isnt careful they may lose Melo
for those very same reasons..they’ll scream we have no assets or moeny but thats because vhey tied up their money in players like Nene, Kenyon and JR Smith..no way i’d have given that type of money to them..Kmart was worth the Max to the Nets and Nets only..everyone but Rat saw that..so thorn being as shrewd as he is said i’ll get the most out of a bad situation..bring in a GM like Ferry expect to hear..well we have no assets what can we do in every other thread
by Holden Caulfield718 on Jul 13, 2010 4:27 PM EDT reply actions
Dave D
Likes to whine a lot these days. He also isn’t getting many scoops by insulting the new owner.
He is to be read as he writes very well but his content is very questionable.
by rundmc00 on Jul 13, 2010 4:34 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
orrrr
he’s a fan, and like us, doesn’t like the moves we’re making. Or he can kiss a$$ just to get a ‘scoop’
His record on inside scoops the last few months...
Has been the worse of all the beat writers on scoops except for the Daily News.
by rundmc00 on Jul 13, 2010 4:45 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Wait but what are you saying
Are you blaming Ferry for not getting LeBron a sidekick or are you saying he didn’t get more tradeable assets in the 5 years he was GM? These two things are not the same. He had tradeable assets in Anderson Varejao, Sasha Pavlovic, and J.J. Hickson. He peddled Big Z to get Jamison and still somehow brought Z back to Cleveland. Before that he traded Damon Jones and Joe Smith to get Mo Williams.
For what he gave up, he did get a decent package back. If you want to argue about why didn’t he get LeBron a BETTER sidekick, look up what those other teams were asking for in return and you’ll know why. Give up Varejao to get Amare for one season? You would do that?
especially with Lebron already set to leave
that would have been really stupid
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by MrDollarBills on Jul 13, 2010 5:07 PM EDT up reply actions
If they get a defensive guy or two in there its over.
"No one stands on the top of the world. Not you, not me, not even gods. But the unbearable vacancy of the throne in the sky is over. From now on...I will be sitting on it."
by MrDollarBills on Jul 13, 2010 5:08 PM EDT up reply actions
hmmm maybe just for the East
but looks like the “nWo” will be stocking up on veteran talent.
I wonder if “Hollywood” Lebron James will spray paint the Heat logo on his opponents after each game
"No one stands on the top of the world. Not you, not me, not even gods. But the unbearable vacancy of the throne in the sky is over. From now on...I will be sitting on it."
by MrDollarBills on Jul 13, 2010 5:28 PM EDT up reply actions
What im saying
of course im blaming Ferry for not bringing in talent too surround Bron with who else are you going to blame?..so peddling Big Z into jamison is good enough? or even Mo Williams?..do you see what the competition is working with in Boston, Lakers, and Orlando..Boston and Orlando have owned the Cavs in the playoffs and he brings in Mo Williams, and Jamison to combat KG, Pierce, DHoward, Ray Allen, Odom, etc..Im no GM however if in my first year I have Lebron James and I know his mission is not just to have the best record or MVP’s but championships than I surround him with that type of talent bottom line.. and if I dont have that talent I go obtain in even if its not in the 1st year I make moves to do such through the draft and not locking the veam into big money contracts on mediocre players..maybe Bron should have demanded help like Kobe did and call out his team mates and FO..look at how LA got Odom, Pau and Artest..by being shrewd..Look at how Boston got their players or even Orlando..I most certainly would have given up Varejo for Amare..why?Amre and Lebron can easily bring in more talent than just Bron and varejo..look what happened in Miami..Wade did a lot of recruiting. as a GM you have to know when these stars contracts are going to be up or close to it so you have the pieces for either a trade or a big signing ..Ferry appeared to be clueless..not every player is going to make a good GM..you have to look 2-5 years ahead a lot of times..How will this contract effect us signing better talent..Ferry thought he could just sign mediocre talent around Bron and that would be good enough..hey they were winning 60 games so that should be ok..you see how that turned out
by Holden Caulfield718 on Jul 13, 2010 4:57 PM EDT reply actions
Not saying its good enough
I’m saying he got decent value for what he gave up. Obviously it wasn’t good enough but neither your nor I know what would be good enough or even possible. The Celtics benefited from Kevin McHale being a former Celtic so that’s how they got Garnett. The Lakers got Chris Wallace to basically give away Pau Gasol. Orlando … sorry but what have they done, really?
I understand what you are saying regarding doing what’s necessary to keep LeBron. But I don’t think it was due to a lack of trying from Ferry. He got a lot for what he gave up. If he had traded Varejao to get Amare and they still do not win, you think either of those guys would have stayed in Cleveland? If anything, I guess you have to take a chance and that’s where Ferry slipped. But he’s far from a terrible GM.
ehh
we can agree to disagree on this one..and I honestly dont think it was for a lack of trying either.. I just dont think he has what it takes to be a good GM..its much much more than drafting and signing players..because you’re battling other GM’s..its chess not checkers and Ferry is a good checkers player but a not so good chess player..
by Holden Caulfield718 on Jul 13, 2010 5:10 PM EDT reply actions
Look if either ferry or King is hired the nets will take a turn for the worst. Neither of these guys has done anything good in their career. Ferry had the 3rd best player in the league and couldnt surround him with the right peices to get that chip. King is just a moron.
Pritchard or Cho please!!!!
What are the NYETS doing in the office this year???
Cho is not ready to be President of the Nets...
That will be Marks’ job.
Thorn please dont leave us!!
Danny Ferry is not what this team needs. I would honestly rather have Charles Barkley as GM. He knows talent at least. Is Thorn trying to Sabotage this team b4 he leaves??
I don't think so...
Thorn has put a lot of work into this team, I don’t think him screw us over like that. But as i pointed out before, it’s curious that Thorn decided to step away when he did. What’s even more curious that guys like Pritchard, Bower, Presti, Dumars, etc. who were linked to the job all publicly said that they weren’t in the running or weren’t interested. Now Proky says there not in a rush…
Strange
The Hornets are parted ways with general manager Jeff Bower, according to team sources.
It appears to have been a mutual decision.
Read more: http://realgm.com/src_wiretap_archives/68122/20100713/hornets_part_ways_with_bower/#ixzz0tbVQdX8z
uh ohhhhh
I don't think we really know what Danny Ferry is as a GM
The situation is really hard to figure out. He did come from the Spurs system that is a positive. He was a former player which is a positive and negative. Positive because it gives him a balanced perspective and credibility in the league. Negative because they often lack the background in economics and business acumen to run an NBA franchise.
For all we know both could be ideal candidates, but it’s just so hard to figure out. Once they hire the new GM and the hype machine begins rolling this board will be filled with deification.
i think i can agree as far as Ferry
he should be considered more of an unknown than a meh. I’m actually kind of more intrigued by him the more I read…of course that just means they’ll pick King instead.
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